Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Struggling with the last part of this marriage record
Erica, ... e contraente nesta sobre dita Matriz = In this aforesaid Matriz. I think she is from Sao Sebastioo too! Good luck On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Erica Botelho audiosource...@qwestoffice.net wrote: I have been unable to locate the baptismal record for the bride in this marriage record, or a marriage record for her parents. I am starting to think I may be looking in the wrong parish. This is from Sao Sebastiao parish and is the marriage record for Manoel Jose de Costa and Maria Roza. Here is what I have for the bride: The bride is Maria Roza, daughter of Antonio de Oliveira and Roza da Trindade, deceased. Baptized ... Google translate is not making sense of this last phrase. The record is on the left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792_item1/P52.html Erica Botelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Pedro-Vila Franca do Campo Baptisms are up on CCA site
Finally Great news!! On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:58:20 AM UTC-5, Terri wrote: Yeah for Vila Franca people! We have some more records online this morning. Sao Pedro Baptsims from 1630-1902 Terri Santos Researching Agua de Pau, Agua d'Alto, Ginetes, Vila Franca do Campo -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca do Campo People
I've been communicating back and forth with the Camara Municipal trying to find some information that could be helpful to fellow researchers who decide to visit. One of the things we've really enjoyed are attending a couple of the Festas in VFC, but often find it hard to get dates in advance. Here is the festa schedule for the upcoming season: Festa de São Miguel Arcanjo | Procissão do Trabalho - May 11 Festas do Feriado Municipal – São João da Vila - June 24 Festa do Coração de Jesus (Ribeira das Tainhas) - July 20 Festa de Nossa Senhora da Piedade (Ponta Garça) - August 3 Festa do Santíssimo Sacramento (Água d`Alto) - August 24 Festa do Senhor Bom Jesus da Pedra - August 31 We attended Sao Joao last year and it was wonderful - crazy, but wonderful! Advice to attendees - rest up in advance! A few years ago we attended the Festa de Sao MIguel Arcanjo and it was extremely moving. The other thing I've noted from time to time on this board is that folks would like to rent apartments in VFC which are also a bit difficult to find. Here are 3 links provided by the Camara. http://www.homelidays.pt/PT-Alojamento-Ferias/pt_acores_pt/vila-franca-do-campo_r3.asp http://ferias.trovit.pt/alugar-casa-ferias-em-vila-franca-do-campo,-a%C3%A7ores http://www.igogo.pt/alojamento-vila-franca-do-campo/ Hope this helps! Marcia Andre -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
That is a tough one to answer, his first name in Portuguese is Joao As far as his last name if I were to guess I would say Henrique but that does not seem right. When you say (in the records), what records? In order to search the islands in the Acores it is important to know the Freguesia (village) where he came from. You should search all US sources to determine that. One way would be to find when he came to the US and then search passport records if they are available. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Liliana Harris Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris I'm brand to new genealogy, so I hope the experts out there will forgive some basic questions. All I know at this point is that my great-grandfather's name was John Harris (in the records) and he was from Sao Jorge. Any ideas on what his Portuguese (birth) name might have been? Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Would like to contact with Celeste G. Perry
Does any one know how to reach Celeste G. Perry? I am hoping she is a participant in this group. I checked my aunt's FamilyTree DNA account yesterday. The account name is Doris Brown. Celeste is the top match (71.5 cM). Unfortunately, the e-mail for the DNA account is bad. Any help would be appreciated. Deb McCabe . When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] please could you help me with this certificate
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P41.html From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of blackice...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] please could you help me with this certificate Hi Everyone, I've been working on a line that has taken me to Sao Sebastiao Ginetes. My 6th great grandparents Sebastiao Ferreira and Luzia Carvalha. I found their marriage certificate but I am having alittle trouble reading their parents names. This is what I have. Jan 5, 1692. Sebastiao , son of Antonio Ferreira and ? da Costa. Luzia Carvalha daughter of ? and Barbara Raposa. I think her father name is Philepe Roiz. ( Does Roiz stand for Rodrigues?) All from Ginetes. Source 1646-1713 # 0041. If anyone could please check this out, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Pat Mello Raining in Dartmouth Ma. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: GenScriber - helpul to us, Azorean rechearchers?
Olá João e Ricardo, Here's some useful information for MAC users: Grace Falcone uses a MAC. She tried to download it and was unsuccessful. She contacted Genscriber: *Hi Grace,* *At this time I do not have a Mac version available. I am working on one, but it could take a while. There are several ways to run the Windows or Linux version on the Mac, depending which path you want to take. I don't like windows, so my personal preference would be to install Virtualbox and Linux Mint. If you decide to take the linux path you are welcome to contact me for guidance. * * Virtualbox https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads Linux Mint http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=145 http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=145 Regards Les Hardy* Cumprimentos, Ângela Loura Domingo, 16 de Fevereiro de 2014 23:56:01 UTC, Ângela Loura escreveu: Hello everyone, I found this software and I decided to give it a try and installed it. It looks interesting and helpful as one tries to understand and\or decode, or even make a word make sense from the CCA records. Please, tell me what you think: http://genscriber.com/genappsd/download-for-windows-81.html Cumprimentos, Angela Loura -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Struggling with the last part of this marriage record
Erica, the bride's record is pretty clear, it states that she was baptized in Sao Sebastiao (PD). The groom is a little more complex in that while he was baptized in Sao Jose (PD), he discharged his obligation (desobrigado) in the Church of Nossa Senhora da Asumpcao, on the island of Santa Maria. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Struggling with the last part of this marriage record
Actually, it does say that, specifically, Rick. Good work. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Struggling with the last part of this marriage record
Thank you. I will broaden my search to more years in Sao Sebastiao and keep at it, then. Erica From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Chaves Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 3:50 AM To: Azores Geneolagy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Struggling with the last part of this marriage record Erica, ... e contraente nesta sobre dita Matriz = In this aforesaid Matriz. I think she is from Sao Sebastioo too! Good luck -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
You need a little more info than St. Jorge,to be able to identify where to look. Was St. Jorge the island of St. Jorge, or the parish of St. Jorge, on some other island? Start with the most recent data you have, plug that into an immigration website such as the Ellis Island foundation.org, and backtrack from there. In order to be able to do this you will need names, dates and places; what were his vitals: when was he born - where? when was he married - where? when did he die - where? when did he immigrate - where? Did he immigrate to the east coast (New England), or, west coast, (CA, HI), etc.? Did he come as a fisherman, whaler, or was he a farmer or factory worker? With a common surname like Harris, be prepared to do some work. If you can identify his birth name, that will be a major step. Let me know when you have some details, I may be able suggest a more specific course for you to follow. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA
Hi Karen, My grandparents also attended St. Anthony's church, now on the corner of Cambridge Street and Cardinal Mederois ( Way or Street). The original old wooden church was across on that street a little further down. My dad and his brothers and sisters went there as well. My grandmother was Deolinda (Augusta) Souza and was born in 1882, also from Angra, Terceira. I was wondering if you had any more information about your grandmother who's last name was Augusta. I have been trying so hard to find out how many brothers and sisters she had and there names. I know she had a brother Joseph and a brother Bernard. My Dad is now 86 (soon to be 87 next month) and was the baby of 8 kids in his family and the last older brother he has left has dementia, sadly. My dad doesn't remember any family history to tell of. I was only 12 when my grandmother died in 1972 and back then I didn't have the bright idea of asking her about her family and growing up in the Azores. She spoke mostly Portuguese so I never really had a conversation by myself with her. My aunt would translate. But I loved her just the same and now want to know all about her (when it's too late!). Just wondering if there might be a connection I could work with! Thanks! Sandy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
Cheri The name shows up in a family tree in Ancestry.com and not in any baptism record On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:40:37 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Maria Roque, Send the link to the record where you see Gardine. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio da Rosa (Roza) Maciel (Marcial) baptized Nov 1860, S. Mattheus Magdalena, Pico
Hello, I think it was last summer when helpful researchers told me that, when my husband's great-grandmothe came to MA/US, she was coming over to stay with her brother, Antonio da ROSA. Would that be a completely different family to the MACIEL /MARCIAL family? From memory before 7 am, I'll summarize the family. The father was Laurindo / Lucia da ROSA from Faial / Fayal, and the mother was Clara Emilia from Pico. I believe Antonio and his brother, Manuel da ROSA, were born in Faial during 1860's. Their younger sister was Filomena da ROSA, b~1872 on Faial. In early 1880's she married on Faial to Francisco MOURA from Sao Miguel.Their 5+ children were born on Faial. I'm told that Francisco probably died ~1905, and Filomena and her 5 children all came over to Cambridge, MA, between 1905 and 1915. I was able to ask a descendant of Filomena, who is now in his 80's, and he has no memory of his mother having uncles with the da ROSA name.On USA census records, she was known as Phoebe MOURA, and she died in 1949. I haven't had any luck finding her brothers in US census records, but I suspect they remained in Cambridge or Somerville at least to start with.They married here after they arrived. Most of New England has been smothered with SNOW, so the only research most of us can do is - from home. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. For my husband's family, I research PACHECO / MOURA, and the MOURA siblings, the sisters married PERRY (PEREIRA?) and MEDEIROS. (Always looking to find out how Antonio PACHECO was related to the other PACHECO's in Greater Boston, MA.) On Friday, July 19, 2013 4:54:32 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Repost ofr Anne Snyder posie at aceweb.com) John, My grandfather's name is sometimes spelled Antonio da Rosa Maciel or Roza or Marcial. He was baptised in Nov. 1860 at St. Mattheus Church, Magdalena, Pico, Diocese of Agra. He became a citizen of the US in 1885. There was also a whaling master, Antone Rose, (1841-1923) who was born in Pico. I feel there must be a familial connection there but can't prove it. I'm a life member of the American-Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society headquartered in New Bedford MA. Anne (Snyder) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
Liliana, Go here for resources to trace your ancestor. Sooner or later, one of them will turn up his Portuguese name. http://goo.gl/SjJbRb It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I turned up the freguesia (village). That was before computers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA
Hello, I have little information, but am wondering if there is a connection... I am searching for information on my GGM family, I am comfortable with her(Jennie)information, but have yet to verify her brother and father. Any help would be appreciated! Jennie Solomon Silva Born 1857 Portugal Died 1946 California Arrived at age 12 in 1869 Rhode Island Her Father- Joseph Salamina Silva Born abt 1821 Portugal Arrived at age 44 in Boston 1865 Her Brother- Manuel Silva Born 1851 Died 1925, St. Marys, Bristol Rhode Island Arrived at age 26 in 1877 Adair Borba On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:00 PM, Shirl Sereque wrote: Karen-You can get the census records from Cambridge which will tell where they lived. I got mine through Ancestry.com. (I lived in Cambridge but not being Catholic I don't know the names of any churches that would be of interest to you.) - Shirl - From: kmh4sch kmh4...@aol.com I am looking for the church that my grandparents likely attended when they lived in Cambridge from 1921 to about 1924. I'm guessing it was probably East Cambridge, as that was where many other ethnic groups first settled. My grandparents, Joe Machado Silva (1894) and Maria Augusta Silva (1897) came from Angra, Terceira to the area in May of 1921. Joe had several brothers and sisters that lived in Cambridge. I do not have an address. Their first born child, Paul L. Silva was born there. I know that because I found him on the Massachusetts birth Index on Ancestry.com. I have the book, volume and page and I am requesting a copy. I would like to also get the church record. Paul only lived a few months and died in 1922 (again I found him on the Massachusetts Death index and have requested the civil record). Knowing where he was baptized and buried would be great. My grandparents left Cambridge for California in 1924 so it must have been so hard to leave their first born there. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker Merging
I like Cheri's answer about Bugs Bunny. Do a few others with some sort of flag of the same name but different information, too. I would do it with two bogus files myself, Bugs and Mickey Mouse. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks I will try that. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Pam S, I'm not sure about FTM. I take the other file and import it as it's own file/family/project. After making sure the data entry is the same as mine, I save it again. Then I go to File Import and it asks if I want to merge that file with my own. Somewhat over simplistic. You can make a file/family/project with one obvious person (Bugs Bunny) and try a merge with him. That way, you only have to delete one person if you don't do the import right. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote: Is it possible to merge one file into another Tree or file? I have been doing a friend of mines genealogy (azores) she connects to my kids. In other words I do not want to have to manually type in 68 pages of ancestors. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would like to contact with Celeste G. Perry
Deb McC, No, Celeste Perry is NOT your aunt's top match. Janice Perry is. The email provided on the page is valid. Cheri Mello Azores DNA project Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
Maria Roque, Well, that's the problem. Don't believe everything you read in the trees you find on the Internet, whether they are posted on Ancestry, FamilySearch, Geni, or what have you. When you discover a tree, you need to be able to retrace that tree yourself. If the tree that you found does not allow you to do that, it's not that good of a tree. It needs to have names, dates, and places. If the names are places are from the Azores, they should be written in proper Portuguese. If things are completely misspelled, the person doesn't know how to do Portuguese research. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
In what context is the name used? Is it part of a combined surname such as Medeiros Jardim, or is it a stand alone? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
Could it have been Ayres? There are quite a few of these surnames from Azores on Ancestry.com. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Liliana, Go here for resources to trace your ancestor. Sooner or later, one of them will turn up his Portuguese name. http://goo.gl/SjJbRb It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I turned up the freguesia (village). That was before computers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
Elaine I think you are on to something. There is a name listed in Guill Arrais. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:30 AM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris Could it have been Ayres? There are quite a few of these surnames from Azores on Ancestry.com. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Liliana, Go here for resources to trace your ancestor. Sooner or later, one of them will turn up his Portuguese name. http://goo.gl/SjJbRb It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I turned up the freguesia (village). That was before computers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
Could it be Areas or Areias? There are quite of few of these also. Can you tell us a little more about him, wife,children, when born and where lived in US? Maybe we can help you more. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:29 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Could it have been Ayres? There are quite a few of these surnames from Azores on Ancestry.com. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Liliana, Go here for resources to trace your ancestor. Sooner or later, one of them will turn up his Portuguese name. http://goo.gl/SjJbRb It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I turned up the freguesia (village). That was before computers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would like to contact with Celeste G. Perry
Sorry, Rick, I am not the Celeste (ccgran...@yahoo.com) being searched. I have not had my DNA tested so that is one thing and my middle name is Norine. Perry is my married name and is from my husband's father's line from Soldao, Lajes do Pico. The surname I used until I was adopted was Sobral; my maternal grandfather's name (from Tras-os-Montes on the mainland). After my mother's marriage and my adoption I used the surname Lewis. I never knew my biological father; however, I have traced his line back from his place of birth in Matriz, Horta, Faial to the beginning of the records. His name was Leonel Soares De Azevedo. Although I never used his surname, on the 1940 census, my mother did list my surname as De Azevedo. (I found that information after she died and could not ask any questions!). Never had a middle name that began with a G. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:02 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Did you try this address? ccgran...@yahoo.com Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb McCabe Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would like to contact with Celeste G. Perry Does any one know how to reach Celeste G. Perry? I am hoping she is a participant in this group. I checked my aunt's FamilyTree DNA account yesterday. The account name is Doris Brown. Celeste is the top match (71.5 cM). Unfortunately, the e-mail for the DNA account is bad. Any help would be appreciated. Deb McCabe . When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would like to contact with Celeste G. Perry
I guess I was close but no cigar. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of celeste perry Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would like to contact with Celeste G. Perry Sorry, Rick, I am not the Celeste (ccgran...@yahoo.com) being searched. I have not had my DNA tested so that is one thing and my middle name is Norine. Perry is my married name and is from my husband's father's line from Soldao, Lajes do Pico. The surname I used until I was adopted was Sobral; my maternal grandfather's name (from Tras-os-Montes on the mainland). After my mother's marriage and my adoption I used the surname Lewis. I never knew my biological father; however, I have traced his line back from his place of birth in Matriz, Horta, Faial to the beginning of the records. His name was Leonel Soares De Azevedo. Although I never used his surname, on the 1940 census, my mother did list my surname as De Azevedo. (I found that information after she died and could not ask any questions!). Never had a middle name that began with a G. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:02 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Did you try this address? ccgran...@yahoo.com Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb McCabe Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would like to contact with Celeste G. Perry Does any one know how to reach Celeste G. Perry? I am hoping she is a participant in this group. I checked my aunt's FamilyTree DNA account yesterday. The account name is Doris Brown. Celeste is the top match (71.5 cM). Unfortunately, the e-mail for the DNA account is bad. Any help would be appreciated. Deb McCabe . When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker Merging
lol thanks It worked On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: I like Cheri's answer about Bugs Bunny. Do a few others with some sort of flag of the same name but different information, too. I would do it with two bogus files myself, Bugs and Mickey Mouse. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks I will try that. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: Pam S, I'm not sure about FTM. I take the other file and import it as it's own file/family/project. After making sure the data entry is the same as mine, I save it again. Then I go to File Import and it asks if I want to merge that file with my own. Somewhat over simplistic. You can make a file/family/project with one obvious person (Bugs Bunny) and try a merge with him. That way, you only have to delete one person if you don't do the import right. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote: Is it possible to merge one file into another Tree or file? I have been doing a friend of mines genealogy (azores) she connects to my kids. In other words I do not want to have to manually type in 68 pages of ancestors. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
Also he just could of changed it to Harris to amercanize it with no relations to his real last name. There are cousins who were original SILVA's that changed their last name to HOWARD for business purposes. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:39 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be Areas or Areias? There are quite of few of these also. Can you tell us a little more about him, wife,children, when born and where lived in US? Maybe we can help you more. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:29 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Could it have been Ayres? There are quite a few of these surnames from Azores on Ancestry.com. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Liliana, Go here for resources to trace your ancestor. Sooner or later, one of them will turn up his Portuguese name. http://goo.gl/SjJbRb It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I turned up the freguesia (village). That was before computers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker Merging
Most of the basic commands in all genealogy software are the same. File Import or File Export. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: lol thanks It worked On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: I like Cheri's answer about Bugs Bunny. Do a few others with some sort of flag of the same name but different information, too. I would do it with two bogus files myself, Bugs and Mickey Mouse. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks I will try that. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: Pam S, I'm not sure about FTM. I take the other file and import it as it's own file/family/project. After making sure the data entry is the same as mine, I save it again. Then I go to File Import and it asks if I want to merge that file with my own. Somewhat over simplistic. You can make a file/family/project with one obvious person (Bugs Bunny) and try a merge with him. That way, you only have to delete one person if you don't do the import right. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote: Is it possible to merge one file into another Tree or file? I have been doing a friend of mines genealogy (azores) she connects to my kids. In other words I do not want to have to manually type in 68 pages of ancestors. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
[AZORES-Genealogy] Fatal car accident, 1928, Raynham, MA, 4 Azorean men
Hello, I don't think I've mentioned this in a long time. My husband's grandfather was killed in a car accident in 1928 in Raynham, MA (US). He died of his injuries the next day.There were 4, Azorean men from Cambridge, MA, in the 1920-era car. They were possibly leaving work, missed a turn, and crashed into a trolley car. The 4 men were: Antonio SOUZA (owner / operator of car, and only survivor) Antonio MARSHALL Oliver AZEVEDO Antonio PACHECO(grandfather of my husband) There is more information about them in the archives of the Mailing Lists at www.rootsweb.com Betty(near Lowell, MA, USA -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA
Hi Sandy, I know what you mean about wanting to ask questions when it is too late. Have done that many times myself. As far as Maria Augusta goes, Augusta is her middle name. You probably already know that during periods of Azorean history, most women only listed their given and middle names; not their surname as we would. What a trick to play on us when we want to find them. Her actual family name Goncalves. I have a list of all her siblings and Bernard is not among them. Her mother was Maria Clementina and as far as found, no Augustas among them. So sorry to not be a bigger help. Happy hunting, Karen From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Dolan Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:15 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA Hi Karen, My grandparents also attended St. Anthony's church, now on the corner of Cambridge Street and Cardinal Mederois ( Way or Street). The original old wooden church was across on that street a little further down. My dad and his brothers and sisters went there as well. My grandmother was Deolinda (Augusta) Souza and was born in 1882, also from Angra, Terceira. I was wondering if you had any more information about your grandmother who's last name was Augusta. I have been trying so hard to find out how many brothers and sisters she had and there names. I know she had a brother Joseph and a brother Bernard. My Dad is now 86 (soon to be 87 next month) and was the baby of 8 kids in his family and the last older brother he has left has dementia, sadly. My dad doesn't remember any family history to tell of. I was only 12 when my grandmother died in 1972 and back then I didn't have the bright idea of asking her about her family and growing up in the Azores. She spoke mostly Portuguese so I never really had a conversation by myself with her. My aunt would translate. But I loved her just the same and now want to know all about her (when it's too late!). Just wondering if there might be a connection I could work with! Thanks! Sandy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA
Hi Adair, I know what it's like to search with not results, really frustrating. I can tell you right off though that Jennie is not a name I have in my database. I am assuming you don't know where in the Azores they came from as this would help greatly. Without a location, I can only say that I do not have any Silvas named Jennie or Soloman and none of the Silvas I know settled in Rhode Island. My Silvas all came to Cambridge, MA and then my grandfather moved on to Visalia, California. So sorry I can't be of more help. Karen From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adair Borba Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:37 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA Hello, I have little information, but am wondering if there is a connection... I am searching for information on my GGM family, I am comfortable with her(Jennie)information, but have yet to verify her brother and father. Any help would be appreciated! Jennie Solomon Silva Born 1857 Portugal Died 1946 California Arrived at age 12 in 1869 Rhode Island Her Father- Joseph Salamina Silva Born abt 1821 Portugal Arrived at age 44 in Boston 1865 Her Brother- Manuel Silva Born 1851 Died 1925, St. Marys, Bristol Rhode Island Arrived at age 26 in 1877 Adair Borba On Feb 15, 2014, at 10:00 PM, Shirl Sereque wrote: Karen-You can get the census records from Cambridge which will tell where they lived. I got mine through Ancestry.com. (I lived in Cambridge but not being Catholic I don't know the names of any churches that would be of interest to you.) - Shirl - _ From: kmh4sch kmh4...@aol.com mailto:kmh4...@aol.com I am looking for the church that my grandparents likely attended when they lived in Cambridge from 1921 to about 1924. I'm guessing it was probably East Cambridge, as that was where many other ethnic groups first settled. My grandparents, Joe Machado Silva (1894) and Maria Augusta Silva (1897) came from Angra, Terceira to the area in May of 1921. Joe had several brothers and sisters that lived in Cambridge. I do not have an address. Their first born child, Paul L. Silva was born there. I know that because I found him on the Massachusetts birth Index on Ancestry.com. I have the book, volume and page and I am requesting a copy. I would like to also get the church record. Paul only lived a few months and died in 1922 (again I found him on the Massachusetts Death index and have requested the civil record). Knowing where he was baptized and buried would be great. My grandparents left Cambridge for California in 1924 so it must have been so hard to leave their first born there. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please help to read my grandmothers birth registration
That's good to know. One of the goals of this list is to teach people to read the documents whereby they can extract the pertinent information to build their trees. In order to do this, they need to go over the learning curve and utilize people on this list who can read or are native Portuguese speakers. I'd like to make it as easy for the readers so I'm asking everyone to state whether it's a baptism, marriage, etc, post the link to the record, and give the location of the record (right side; bottom left, etc). And as they learn to read, they can say what they are able to read and what they need help with. So I'll probably state the frequently, as we get new members weekly on this list! On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Leonard Silva lensi...@lenstudio.comwrote: You can sometimes find the link by right clicking the image and then click view image info. In this case the link is: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1881-1884/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1881-1884_item1/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1881-1884_JPG/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1881-1884_0102.jpg Len Silva On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:43:01 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Sandy Dolan, Send the link. Unless you are going to find a format that PCs, Macs, Linux, etc can open and you know the software for each (kinda hard to know all that unless you are a computer geek) it's best to send the link. It's too small for me to read and does not download on a Windows 8.1 PC. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please help to read my grandmothers birth registration
Sandy D, This Deolinda is the daughter of Manuel Jose and Maria Maxima. Is this the right one? What do you need help reading? On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Sandy Dolan sandyf...@verizon.net wrote: [image: 0102 [527 KB]] Can someone please help me read this document for Deolinda Augusta? My grandmother on my Dad's side was born in 1882. I was only 12 then when she died in 1972. I so want so much to learn her history as she is still very special to me. I would appreciate it so very much! Sandy Souza Dolan -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
Cheri, The name appears in another tree as Gaudino, saw a couple hours ago On Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:06:49 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Maria Roque, Well, that's the problem. Don't believe everything you read in the trees you find on the Internet, whether they are posted on Ancestry, FamilySearch, Geni, or what have you. When you discover a tree, you need to be able to retrace that tree yourself. If the tree that you found does not allow you to do that, it's not that good of a tree. It needs to have names, dates, and places. If the names are places are from the Azores, they should be written in proper Portuguese. If things are completely misspelled, the person doesn't know how to do Portuguese research. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
Maria Roque, And I can put George Washington, Pope Francis, and Lucille Ball in my tree and post it online. It doesn't make it true. I know it seems that I'm being a bit facetious, but you really have to evaluate the source. The true source is what we call the primary source. That's the document that is generated at the time of the event. Like a birth certificate which verifies the birth date, a marriage certificate verifying the marriage date. Secondary sources are things generated after the event or things gleaned from a primary source. Many times, you need 2 or 3 of these to agree with each other. Portuguese research uses the baptism records as a secondary source for the birth record. We don't have the luxury of trying to find 2 or 3 other sources to verify the birth date. But if the person died within the last 100 years or so, we can order their death certificate and get the death date (primary source) and get the birth date (secondary source) from the death record. So until you can find the true source of the name (which document it is coming from), no one is going to be able to tell you with any type of confidence what that name is. It's going to be a bunch of guesses. Someone has seen the original record and transcribed it. Who is that transcriber? How good are that at transcribing? Reading Portuguese records? Dealing with the paleography? I've seen some really poor jobs done by Ancestry (which I was told was outsourced). American censuses with the last name of Turner (quite common) and written Turner as clear as day on the census which were transcribed completely wrong. There are also whole areas in the midwest part of the United States that migrated west from Indiana. How was that transcribed by the Ancestry folks? As India, another country. So I went to the actual source and saw that all these people came from the state of Indiana and not the country of India. The Ancestry transcribers can also mess up Iowa with Indiana as state abbreviations changed over time. The Ancestry transcribers apparently were not trained in historic place name abbreviations. Hope this illustrates why going to the actual source is so important in research. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA
I wasn't sure about that Karen, thank you for letting me know about women using their middle names and not their surnames. In fact I just asked that very question on another thread. That's going to make it tricky to find out my great-grandmothers last name I guess! Sorry I couldn't be of help. I live about 40 minutes from Cambridge now so if there is something you need to visit the church for, I may be able to do that for you. Sandy On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:14:55 AM UTC-5, Sandy Dolan wrote: Hi Karen, My grandparents also attended St. Anthony's church, now on the corner of Cambridge Street and Cardinal Mederois ( Way or Street). The original old wooden church was across on that street a little further down. My dad and his brothers and sisters went there as well. My grandmother was Deolinda (Augusta) Souza and was born in 1882, also from Angra, Terceira. I was wondering if you had any more information about your grandmother who's last name was Augusta. I have been trying so hard to find out how many brothers and sisters she had and there names. I know she had a brother Joseph and a brother Bernard. My Dad is now 86 (soon to be 87 next month) and was the baby of 8 kids in his family and the last older brother he has left has dementia, sadly. My dad doesn't remember any family history to tell of. I was only 12 when my grandmother died in 1972 and back then I didn't have the bright idea of asking her about her family and growing up in the Azores. She spoke mostly Portuguese so I never really had a conversation by myself with her. My aunt would translate. But I loved her just the same and now want to know all about her (when it's too late!). Just wondering if there might be a connection I could work with! Thanks! Sandy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Please help to read my grandmothers birth registration
Unfortunately Chris, I know nothing about computers except how to write a post. I'm sorry, I just assumed the picture would come out as I was seeing it. :/ Thank you so much for helping Leonard! Yes, that is the one that is hers, Manuel Jose and Maria Maxima. I just want to translate the whole page so I can read all the information. A few questions are; Is Jose her Dad's middle name? I know the family last name was Augusta. Is Maxima Maria's maiden name or middle name? Does it list any brother or sister she may have had? This group is great! I never thought I'd find anyone to help me. Thank you so very much! Sandy On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:31:39 AM UTC-5, Sandy Dolan wrote: [image: 0102 [527 KB]] Can someone please help me read this document for Deolinda Augusta? My grandmother on my Dad's side was born in 1882. I was only 12 then when she died in 1972. I so want so much to learn her history as she is still very special to me. I would appreciate it so very much! Sandy Souza Dolan -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Wondering if anyone has this couple?
Hi everyone. I have been looking for Simao de Souza and his wife Theresa (Ursula) Machado. She sometimes goes by that name Ursula. They are from Sao Jose Ponta Delgada Sao Miguel. I am looking for their marriage. They started having kids from 1710 to 1721. I have 5 children . Theresa died in 1724. Simao remarried in 1724 and died in 1726. I have searched a lot for this couples marriage and just can't find it. I even looked in Baptisms for simao figuring it wasn't a popular name, but that was not the case. I guess in those years it was.LOL Oh well , Don't know where to go from here. Looked at Simao 2nd marrage and it only gives Theresa's name . No parents. Anyone related to these people? Thanks once again. Pat Mello We had a beautiful spring like day today. Sweatshirt weather. Thank you God. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Catholic Church in Cambridge, MA
Hello, Just an FYI. From my earlier postings, my hubby's great-grandmother was born Filomena Augusta da ROSA from Faial, and her 3 daughters were born there, Elsita Augusta MOURA, Rosa Augusta MOURA, and Carolina Augusta MOURA.There were also 2 sons born there, Ernesto Bernardo MOURA and Manuel MOURA. (Filomena's mother was born on Pico, Clara Emilia ..) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (Curious why Azoreans in CA/US seem more interested in their ancestors than Azoreans in MA/US. And, how many from Cambridge, MA, moved to CA.) On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Sandy Dolan sandyf...@verizon.net wrote: I wasn't sure about that Karen, thank you for letting me know about women using their middle names and not their surnames. In fact I just asked that very question on another thread. That's going to make it tricky to find out my great-grandmothers last name I guess! Sorry I couldn't be of help. I live about 40 minutes from Cambridge now so if there is something you need to visit the church for, I may be able to do that for you. Sandy On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:14:55 AM UTC-5, Sandy Dolan wrote: Hi Karen, My grandparents also attended St. Anthony's church, now on the corner of Cambridge Street and Cardinal Mederois ( Way or Street). The original old wooden church was across on that street a little further down. My dad and his brothers and sisters went there as well. My grandmother was Deolinda (Augusta) Souza and was born in 1882, also from Angra, Terceira. I was wondering if you had any more information about your grandmother who's last name was Augusta. I have been trying so hard to find out how many brothers and sisters she had and there names. I know she had a brother Joseph and a brother Bernard. My Dad is now 86 (soon to be 87 next month) and was the baby of 8 kids in his family and the last older brother he has left has dementia, sadly. My dad doesn't remember any family history to tell of. I was only 12 when my grandmother died in 1972 and back then I didn't have the bright idea of asking her about her family and growing up in the Azores. She spoke mostly Portuguese so I never really had a conversation by myself with her. My aunt would translate. But I loved her just the same and now want to know all about her (when it's too late!). Just wondering if there might be a connection I could work with! Thanks! Sandy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/lK0Y9araJIQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
Cheri Thank you I eventually did find his baptism record So I do have the right Gaudino, father, grandfather in the document but did some running around as birth year in a tree were wrong and on the other was right then it was looking in S. Pedro and S. Roque found him in S. Roque On Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:06:29 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Maria Roque, And I can put George Washington, Pope Francis, and Lucille Ball in my tree and post it online. It doesn't make it true. I know it seems that I'm being a bit facetious, but you really have to evaluate the source. The true source is what we call the primary source. That's the document that is generated at the time of the event. Like a birth certificate which verifies the birth date, a marriage certificate verifying the marriage date. Secondary sources are things generated after the event or things gleaned from a primary source. Many times, you need 2 or 3 of these to agree with each other. Portuguese research uses the baptism records as a secondary source for the birth record. We don't have the luxury of trying to find 2 or 3 other sources to verify the birth date. But if the person died within the last 100 years or so, we can order their death certificate and get the death date (primary source) and get the birth date (secondary source) from the death record. So until you can find the true source of the name (which document it is coming from), no one is going to be able to tell you with any type of confidence what that name is. It's going to be a bunch of guesses. Someone has seen the original record and transcribed it. Who is that transcriber? How good are that at transcribing? Reading Portuguese records? Dealing with the paleography? I've seen some really poor jobs done by Ancestry (which I was told was outsourced). American censuses with the last name of Turner (quite common) and written Turner as clear as day on the census which were transcribed completely wrong. There are also whole areas in the midwest part of the United States that migrated west from Indiana. How was that transcribed by the Ancestry folks? As India, another country. So I went to the actual source and saw that all these people came from the state of Indiana and not the country of India. The Ancestry transcribers can also mess up Iowa with Indiana as state abbreviations changed over time. The Ancestry transcribers apparently were not trained in historic place name abbreviations. Hope this illustrates why going to the actual source is so important in research. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
I agree, Cheri, its not facetious to demand factual evidence, its done in court every day. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gardine
Gaudino De Medeiros is my dad's uncle. He is my grandfather's brother. The name is legit. He was well known by many family members. I do have a copy of his birth/baptism record. I have seen his name in another tree as Gardine. That is not how he spelled it or pronounced it. On Feb 20, 2014 9:06 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Maria Roque, Well, that's the problem. Don't believe everything you read in the trees you find on the Internet, whether they are posted on Ancestry, FamilySearch, Geni, or what have you. When you discover a tree, you need to be able to retrace that tree yourself. If the tree that you found does not allow you to do that, it's not that good of a tree. It needs to have names, dates, and places. If the names are places are from the Azores, they should be written in proper Portuguese. If things are completely misspelled, the person doesn't know how to do Portuguese research. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Wondering if anyone has this couple?
Hello, Try the parish of the parents of the bride, if different., and work your way out from there. Also, can you send us a link to one or a few of the children's baptisms? Thanks. On Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:03:17 PM UTC-8, Pat Sylvia wrote: Hi everyone. I have been looking for Simao de Souza and his wife Theresa (Ursula) Machado. She sometimes goes by that name Ursula. They are from Sao Jose Ponta Delgada Sao Miguel. I am looking for their marriage. They started having kids from 1710 to 1721. I have 5 children . Theresa died in 1724. Simao remarried in 1724 and died in 1726. I have searched a lot for this couples marriage and just can't find it. I even looked in Baptisms for simao figuring it wasn't a popular name, but that was not the case. I guess in those years it was.LOL Oh well , Don't know where to go from here. Looked at Simao 2nd marrage and it only gives Theresa's name . No parents. Anyone related to these people? Thanks once again. Pat Mello We had a beautiful spring like day today. Sweatshirt weather. Thank you God. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: please could you help me with this certificate
I was referring to the abbreviation Roiz - it has always been used as a shortened version of the name Rodrigues. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
I've got my fingers crossed that he didn't do that...or if he did, I can find other records with his actual birth name. Thanks for the thought, though. On Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:07:44 AM UTC-8, Pam Santos wrote: Also he just could of changed it to Harris to amercanize it with no relations to his real last name. There are cousins who were original SILVA's that changed their last name to HOWARD for business purposes. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:39 AM, E Sharp belle...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Could it be Areas or Areias? There are quite of few of these also. Can you tell us a little more about him, wife,children, when born and where lived in US? Maybe we can help you more. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:29 AM, E Sharp belle...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Could it have been Ayres? There are quite a few of these surnames from Azores on Ancestry.com. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Liliana, Go here for resources to trace your ancestor. Sooner or later, one of them will turn up his Portuguese name. http://goo.gl/SjJbRb It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I turned up the freguesia (village). That was before computers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Americanized: John Harris
Hi Dano--All great questions. I wish I had great answers. He did live in Boston and was a cabinetmaker. I found a marriage certificate, but the only information that gave me was that he was born on St. Jorge, the Western Islands. I'll keep at it. I'm determined! Thanks for all your advice. On Thursday, February 20, 2014 5:52:26 AM UTC-8, Dano wrote: You need a little more info than St. Jorge,to be able to identify where to look. Was St. Jorge the island of St. Jorge, or the parish of St. Jorge, on some other island? Start with the most recent data you have, plug that into an immigration website such as the Ellis Island foundation.org, and backtrack from there. In order to be able to do this you will need names, dates and places; what were his vitals: when was he born - where? when was he married - where? when did he die - where? when did he immigrate - where? Did he immigrate to the east coast (New England), or, west coast, (CA, HI), etc.? Did he come as a fisherman, whaler, or was he a farmer or factory worker? With a common surname like Harris, be prepared to do some work. If you can identify his birth name, that will be a major step. Let me know when you have some details, I may be able suggest a more specific course for you to follow. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
You are all so wonderful! Thank you. Ayres, Areas, and Areias sound like the best leads I've had so far. I will try the resource Cheri mentioned. A friend has also given me links to church birth/baptism and death records. I will start by looking for those names on the island of Sao Jorge. The Azores sound like a really special place. I can't wait to find out more. On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:39:23 AM UTC-8, E Sharp wrote: Could it be Areas or Areias? There are quite of few of these also. Can you tell us a little more about him, wife,children, when born and where lived in US? Maybe we can help you more. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:29 AM, E Sharp belle...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Could it have been Ayres? There are quite a few of these surnames from Azores on Ancestry.com. E On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Liliana, Go here for resources to trace your ancestor. Sooner or later, one of them will turn up his Portuguese name. http://goo.gl/SjJbRb It took me 4 years and 25 documents before I turned up the freguesia (village). That was before computers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
Thanks for the thoughts, Rick. My biggest obstacle is not having any records that refer to his origins on Sao Jorge. I only have a notation in the family Bible: John Harris, born on Sao Jorge, the Western Islands, and the same on his marriage certificate. I have no idea which village he came from. I found nothing in the Ellis Island records. I'll keep at it. This is like a treasure hunt! On Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:24:40 AM UTC-8, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *That is a tough one to answer, his first name in Portuguese is Joao As far as his last name if I were to guess I would say Henrique but that does not seem right. When you say (in the records), what records? In order to search the islands in the Acores it is important to know the Freguesia (village) where he came from. You should search all US sources to determine that. One way would be to find when he came to the US and then search passport records if they are available. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Liliana Harris *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:51 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris I'm brand to new genealogy, so I hope the experts out there will forgive some basic questions. All I know at this point is that my great-grandfather's name was John Harris (in the records) and he was from Sao Jorge. Any ideas on what his Portuguese (birth) name might have been? Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris
Liliana, If it's Areia, look for "d'Areia" or "da Area" and maybe in Calheta, where I found some who are originally from Piedade, Pico. Calheta is where my own Areia family is from. Maybe we're related.You might consider getting the Family Finder DNA test, too. I have written about it on my website:www.dholmes.com/dna.htmlGood luck.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris From: Liliana Harris lilianah...@gmail.com Date: Thu, February 20, 2014 10:06 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Thanks for the thoughts, Rick. My biggest obstacle is not having any records that refer to his origins on Sao Jorge. I only have a notation in the family Bible: John Harris, born on Sao Jorge, the Western Islands, and the same on his marriage certificate. I have no idea which village he came from. I found nothing in the Ellis Island records. I'll keep at it. This is like a treasure hunt!On Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:24:40 AM UTC-8, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:That is a tough one to answer, his first name in Portuguese is Joao As far as his last name if I were to guess I would say Henrique but that does not seem right. When you say (in the records), what records? In order to search the islands in the Acores it is important to know the Freguesia (village) where he came from. You should search all US sources to determine that. One way would be to find when he came to the US and then search passport records if they are available. RickRichard Francis PimentelSpring, TXFrom: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Liliana HarrisSent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:51 PMTo: azo...@googlegroups.comSubject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John HarrisI'm brand to new genealogy, so I hope the experts out there will forgive some basic questions. All I know at this point is that my great-grandfather's name was John Harris (in the records) and he was from Sao Jorge. Any ideas on what his Portuguese (birth) name might have been? Thanks!-- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
