Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Minha?
erro not found!! On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Ângela Loura wrote: > the link is incomplete > > 2016-08-09 21:04 GMT+01:00 Sandra Perez : > >> What does Minha mean? It is after Beatriz Ferreira's name on er marriage. >> >> Top left. >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- >> SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BALTEZAR GOMEZ DE MOIRA 's marriage
r de Moira mentioned. Can someone please help > me with this? Thank you. > > Maria Elena > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for da Ponte family from Povoação
Hello, the subject of this thread is "looking for da Ponte family from Povoação" I am a direct descendant of Ponte in Povoacao. I am still researching this line. Email me privately if you have or want more info of the Ponte. I can advance that mine are from Lomba do Alcaide. cheers from Ricardo Ponte Chaves On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Shirley Allegre wrote: > I have 3 Pedro da Costa listed in my database. Can you tell me who your > Pedro da Costa was married to? When?, Where? > Shirley in CA > > - Original Message - > *From:* Sandra Perez > *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group > *Sent:* Saturday, May 28, 2016 7:39 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for da Ponte family from > Povoação > > No Fala Portugues, however there are those in our group that do. I did not > see the information that Matt posted. > > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Cesar Pimentel < > cesarpimentel@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Sandra, fala português? >> >> Pedro da Costa is a name that Matt postes in his mensager. He, Pedro da >> Costa, is my 5th grandfather. >> >> The information that had posted for Matt about he, Pedro da Costa, is >> correct. >> >> Cesar. >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santo Espirito baptism record: 1825-1851 > 0038
MANUEL?? On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Ângela Loura wrote: > Hi Cherri, > Antonio is the one on the top left, I nedd the on the top left. > Thanks! > > Segunda-feira, 7 de Abril de 2014 15:20:48 UTC+1, Ângela Loura escreveu: >> >> Another great record! >> Can anyone figure out the name in the begining of the record? >> >> Top right: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ >> digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-1851/SMA-VP- >> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-1851_item1/P38.html<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-1851/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-1851_item1/P38.html> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Ângela Loura. >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Maria - São Pedro - Online
João, you will have to ask them, there are contacts at CCA site for that! I just spotted the lack of a / where there was a 7 in the link! I suspect you must use some kind of script to crawl their servers, and that's why you detect the errors, webdesign is not my strongest but I am into computer "business" as well for a few years. Cheers On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:29 PM, João Ventura wrote: > Ricardo, > > That's the easy explanation.. But that would point to the fact that these > lists are created by human operators. My website links to about 400K books. > Do you believe I typed those in? How hard is it to create those URLs > automatically, and not rely on "Shift+7"? > > Regards, > > João Ventura > http://tombo.pt/en > > > On Wednesday, 9 April 2014 13:38:56 UTC+2, rchaves wrote: > >> Somebody used low pressure on "SHIFT" key João! Shift+7 = / :-) >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:22 AM, João Ventura wrote: >> >>> Indeed, please note that the right URL for the Óbitos book for 1707-1753 >>> is: >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA- >>> VP-SAOPEDRO-O-1707-1753/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-O-1707-1753_item1/index.html >>> >>> Somebody did a copy+paste error in their system, and their link doesn't >>> work. >>> >>> João C. Ventura >>> http://tombo.pt/en >>> >>> On Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:39:12 UTC+2, rchaves wrote: >>> >>>> Marriage and Death records for São Pedro are ONLINE! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: >>>> >>>>> JR, >>>>> >>>>> thank you, I am stuck in 1750 looking for my direct line of the Chaves >>>>> (Carvalho, Mello and Freitas) branch. Records of Santo Espírito are really >>>>> in bad shape. In São Pedro, my mother's line is Cabral, which I expect to >>>>> trace as well way back as possible :-) >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:39 PM, JR wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I notice you are still in the early 1800's, but believe me, when you >>>>>> get to the older records, they are difficult to read. I have a few >>>>>> ancestors, like Cheri and Shirley, that have their origins in early Santa >>>>>> Maria. There was small and steady migration of people from Santa Maria to >>>>>> Sao Miguel starting about 1695 all the way through to the 1900's. So I >>>>>> will >>>>>> be watching in case you have similar names. Good luck Ricardo!! >>>>>> >>>>>> JR >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:36:00 AM UTC-4, rchaves wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess Santa Maria is complete! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ricardo Chaves >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>>>> membership." >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ricardo Chaves >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ricardo Chaves >>>> >>>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>&
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ArquivosVisit-Ponta-Delgada-São-Miguel
Hello Mary, I've been there two months ago, everything just like Antonio wrote, except I got one computer free :-) I even payed in advance and made the list of files at home and they send it to my email, "no sweat"! I can only add that they don't let us see the books anymore. Last time I had the books in my hands was 2012! Unless you want to see other than the Parochial Records, those I don't know! "Cartão de Leitor" is only when you want to take books home "rented" Cheers On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Antonio Roque wrote: > No need for a Cartão do Leitor. I was there last year and they have 2 > computers available. I went one day and both were occupied so I waited > awhile and then gave up to return in the afternoon and use one of the > computers. Regular copies were less than an euro the person doing the > copy even gave me two free copies because they had no change but next day I > wanted to pay and she said no. Another time they emailed me the records I > wanted, very helpful people. > > > On Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:02:50 PM UTC-4, Mary MK wrote: >> >> I am looking for tips for visiting the arquivo in Ponta Delgada. I'll be >> there next month and want to spend at least a day doing research. Will I >> need a Cartão de Leitor? What is the best way to get help looking for >> baptisms, etc. I speak some Portuguese (Brazilian), which helps with >> reading at least. >> >> I want to get a certified copy of my father's baptism, if possible. It >> that difficult? He was born in Ponta Garça, and I have a copy of the >> microfilm record. >> >> I appreciate any tips or cautionary tales. Thanks! >> >> Mary Kent >> >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Maria - São Pedro - Online
Somebody used low pressure on "SHIFT" key João! Shift+7 = / :-) On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:22 AM, João Ventura wrote: > Indeed, please note that the right URL for the Óbitos book for 1707-1753 > is: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-O-1707-1753/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-O-1707-1753_item1/index.html > > Somebody did a copy+paste error in their system, and their link doesn't > work. > > João C. Ventura > http://tombo.pt/en > > On Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:39:12 UTC+2, rchaves wrote: > >> Marriage and Death records for São Pedro are ONLINE! >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: >> >>> JR, >>> >>> thank you, I am stuck in 1750 looking for my direct line of the Chaves >>> (Carvalho, Mello and Freitas) branch. Records of Santo Espírito are really >>> in bad shape. In São Pedro, my mother's line is Cabral, which I expect to >>> trace as well way back as possible :-) >>> >>> regards >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:39 PM, JR wrote: >>> >>>> I notice you are still in the early 1800's, but believe me, when you >>>> get to the older records, they are difficult to read. I have a few >>>> ancestors, like Cheri and Shirley, that have their origins in early Santa >>>> Maria. There was small and steady migration of people from Santa Maria to >>>> Sao Miguel starting about 1695 all the way through to the 1900's. So I will >>>> be watching in case you have similar names. Good luck Ricardo!! >>>> >>>> JR >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:36:00 AM UTC-4, rchaves wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I guess Santa Maria is complete! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ricardo Chaves >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>> membership." >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ricardo Chaves >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ricardo Chaves >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Maria - São Pedro - Online
Marriage and Death records for São Pedro are ONLINE! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > JR, > > thank you, I am stuck in 1750 looking for my direct line of the Chaves > (Carvalho, Mello and Freitas) branch. Records of Santo Espírito are really > in bad shape. In São Pedro, my mother's line is Cabral, which I expect to > trace as well way back as possible :-) > > regards > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:39 PM, JR wrote: > >> I notice you are still in the early 1800's, but believe me, when you get >> to the older records, they are difficult to read. I have a few ancestors, >> like Cheri and Shirley, that have their origins in early Santa Maria. There >> was small and steady migration of people from Santa Maria to Sao Miguel >> starting about 1695 all the way through to the 1900's. So I will be >> watching in case you have similar names. Good luck Ricardo!! >> >> JR >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:36:00 AM UTC-4, rchaves wrote: >>> >>> I guess Santa Maria is complete! >>> >>> -- >>> Ricardo Chaves >>> >>> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: GenScriber - helpul to us, Azorean rechearchers?
Thank you a lot Les, in my opinion its a great tool (specially being portable), I have been using it with a few records and the NEGATIVE feature is GREAT in some situations. Thank you for the text pad!!! Best of best! On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Les Hardy wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 19 February 2014 15:16:19 UTC, rchaves wrote: >> >> Obrigado João, >> I don't like the Excel format, a simple notepad would be great! >> >> I gave this some thought, and I have added a textpad to genscriber. It > can be used for simple text like notepad or richtext like wordpad. > > GenScriber latest update (2.3.1) is due to be released shortly. > Some of the changes... > > 1. Added TextPad. There is now a choice of ways to input data. The > original spreadsheet style grid for tabular data and now the textpad for > plain text or richtext. > > 2. Gedcom import/export. > > 3. Improved the media hyperlink feature. It is now much easier when adding > links to media files. > > 4. Note files can be attached to any cell. This feature is also used when > importing gedcom files. > > 5. Improved the html page export. Internet ready webpages can now be > exported. > > > I am still working on a mac version, but not there yet. > > Regards > Les Hardy > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751)
Thank you JR, many of those names I have seen when looking for more connections with Balthazar Gomes + Izabel da Fonte. I found a death certificate that seems to be this Balthazar (1712) and it says, for the first time in my direct line ancestors, he is from Matriz (Vila do Porto) and that, if its really him, gives me another chance. In the Carlos Machado notes, that Hermano pointed, it looks that even Carlos Machado had difficulty do connect that Baltazar and Izabel to the rest of the notes. Although a bit confused, there are a few names I have found some kind of connection with Balthazar, marriages and births being Balthazar and Izabel the parents. But with out the marriage I can't be sure of nothing because there are many similar names. I have no choice but to keep "digging"! Who in this list has "da Fonte" from Santa Maria and if this "da Fonte" has converted to "de Fontes" could tell me something about it! Thanks to all On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:26 PM, JR wrote: > I am going to send you a few from Ponta Garca that I traced to Vila Franca > with very similar names, Gomes, Baltazar, Fontes and Melo, all from, or > with links to Santa Maria about the same time period. You never know, it > might help and I think they are related, although it may not be immediately. > > BARTOLOMEU DE1 FONTES was born in NS Assumpciao- Ilha de St Maria, res > Vila Franca, and died Bef. 13 Dec 1711. He married MARIA DE MATOS. She > was born in Vila Franca de Campo- Matriz, and died Bef. 13 Dec 1711. > > > > Children of BARTOLOMEU FONTES and MARIA MATOS are: > > 2.i.BELCHIOR2 GOMES, b. NS Assumpciao- Ilha de St > Maria. > > BELCHIOR GOMES* (B**ARTOLOMEU* *DE*1* F**ONTES**)* was born in NS > Assumpciao- Ilha de St Maria. He married MARIA DE MATOS 21 Jul 1715 in > Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz, daughter of TOME COSTA and FRANCISCA MATOS. > She was born in Vila Franca de Campo- Matriz. (This record states Maria de > Mattos (th mother) cc Bartolomeu Fontes is native VFSM) > > 3. ii.BALTAZAR GOMES DE MELO, b. Abt. 1676, NS > Assumpciao- Ilha de St Maria, res Vila Franca & PG; d. 10 Nov 1754, Ponta > Garca- NS da Piedade. > > BALTAZAR GOMES DE MELO* (B**ARTOLOMEU* *DE*1* F**ONTES**)* was born Abt. > 1676 in NS Assumpciao- Ilha de St Maria, res Vila Franca & PG, and died 10 > Nov 1754 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. He married ANTONIA DE MATOS 13 > Dec 1711 in Vila Franca do Campo- Sao Miguel, daughter of FRANCISCO COSTAand A > NTONIA MATOS. She was born in Vila Franca de Campo- Matriz, and died > Bef. 10 Nov 1754. > JR > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751)
Thanks Cheri, I believe this is the end for me, he is the only first name Balthazar 20 to 25 years back of his son born in 1707, I saw the hole period and there a lot we can't read at all! Bottom Right, 5th record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1671-1699/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1671-1699_item1/P26.html I'm off to Death Records to see if I find him there and see at least who he married with. Cheers On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Ricardo, > > I know Canto did his work in the latter 1800s. And Rodrigo Rodrigues did > corrections and amendments in the early 1900s. > > Take the Achada marriage index, for example. Canto created it sometime in > the late 1800s. The early Achada records are really bad - near the level > of the Santa Maria records. Canto wrote a lot of . where he couldn't > read or wrote partial names (M_). Rodrigues wrote on the front of > Achada's index that he when through and corrected and amended Canto's work > and then Rodrigues wrote the date 1929. > > So I have a time line for when the books were deteriorating. And I can > see 2 genealogists just struggle with it too. > > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751)
Thank you all, Doug, that is my plan, that takes time! I was just "jumping" from generation into generation, backwards, just to see where I could go in the "backbone" of the tree, sem olhar para os "galhos" but I know I have a lot of work! Some of the branches I "caught" along the way were pure luck ;-) Thank you Nancy, I will eventually some day, "dig" the hole Island I am aware of that, we might cross in to Cabral one day, I have it from both Paternal and Maternal side. Cheri, I can see that now for my unhappiness, and yes I already know that I will have to read some of those books. I also read that Velho Arruda wrote a good one, being from Santa Maria, maybe he got those books in better conditions, I don't know. I am curious when did these books deteriorated, I can tell you one thing, humidity in these Islands can be a "killer" for just about anything you can think of, specially electronics! Thank you Manoel, I will consider that in the future to see if I connect there! Obrigado Hermano, é curioso esse "material" andava no CCA e eu nao sabia! Muito Bom!! It seams that he got the same doubts I have, I know I wont find proof considering the deterioration of he books, but I still have hope in the birth records to get more info as they go back a little bit more than the marriages! Obrigado a todos! On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: > Ricardo > I haven't followed this thread closely, however I wonder if the image in > the attached link, confusing as it is, might be of help. > Hermano > > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO_item1/P77.html > > -- > From: gfsche...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 08:41:06 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751) > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > > Ricardo, > > Sometimes the early book was lost. Or it was in such bad shape that they > could not film or digitize it. It's literally falling apart. > > I don't know if Rodrigo Rodrigues or Frutoso did much with the Santa Maria > records. That could be one option. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751)
Hello Nancy, thank you for your input, where was that marriage of 1657? Santo Espirito or Vila? I am focused on the straight line for now just to see where I can go but I also have Mello, Carvalho and of Course Chaves that I found out it came from a marriage of my 5th Grandfater, and a few others that I will "dig" with time! On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:26 PM, nancy jean baptiste < fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I have a Baltazar Velho de Andrade born in Vila do Porto who married for > the second time Catarina Velho Melo. I have only the date of his 1st > marriage to Maria Andrade de Alpoim who he had no children with. Nov. 1657. > Perhaps these people are connected to yours since all the names are so > similar. > > Baltazar was the son of Sebastiao de Fonte Velho and Maria Velho Melo. > > Regards, > Nancy Jean > > Santa Maria for: Cabral, Andrade, Moreira Leite, Melo and others > > > > -- > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 10:10:18 + > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751) > From: chave...@gmail.com > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > > Hello group, > > I believe i am at the end of the rope for my biggest sadness, and > suspecting that the marriage of Baltazar (Balthazar) Gomes and Mariana > (Marianna) Melo (Mello) somewhere between 1725-1740, is gone! In the > beginning of the CCA BOOKS 1731 there are five pages missing, other I just > cant read, impossible, > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751_item1/P3.html > > not to mention that the hole period of marriages 1708-1751 are (were) > really in bad shape. In the periods I have been searching I found few > "Balthazar" Gomes, not many, I know mine was born in 1707, I got his birth > record, but I am starting to believe that these are all from the same > "prole", but I might be wrong. > > There is a Balthazar Gomes Moura, a Balthazar Gomes Velho and a couple > more I cant remember. I found in one of my Balthazar Gomes's grandson's > birth record that the vicar wrote down his name as Balthazar Gomes Freitas, > but having 3 of his son's birth records, death record and birth record only > as Gomes an not Gomes Freitas, is confusing me quite a bit. > > The father of my Balthazar is also Balthazar Gomes and mother Izabel da > Fonte. I will dig into the birth records, backwards, to see If I'm lucky. I > found from a search on the web there is a lady that has some of these Gomes > in her Genealogy, it s blog, I can't remember the site I believe she has a > link there to this group so I wonder if she is here. I notice she got > marriages prior to 1708, for some of these Gomes, how? > > I am reaching the stage where probably many of you with much more > experience have been as well, what next? I wonder why Santo Espirito > Marriages ends in 1708 and Birth records go up to 1671? or Vila to 1630? > > Thank you all > > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751)
Hello group, I believe i am at the end of the rope for my biggest sadness, and suspecting that the marriage of Baltazar (Balthazar) Gomes and Mariana (Marianna) Melo (Mello) somewhere between 1725-1740, is gone! In the beginning of the CCA BOOKS 1731 there are five pages missing, other I just cant read, impossible, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1731-1751_item1/P3.html not to mention that the hole period of marriages 1708-1751 are (were) really in bad shape. In the periods I have been searching I found few "Balthazar" Gomes, not many, I know mine was born in 1707, I got his birth record, but I am starting to believe that these are all from the same "prole", but I might be wrong. There is a Balthazar Gomes Moura, a Balthazar Gomes Velho and a couple more I cant remember. I found in one of my Balthazar Gomes's grandson's birth record that the vicar wrote down his name as Balthazar Gomes Freitas, but having 3 of his son's birth records, death record and birth record only as Gomes an not Gomes Freitas, is confusing me quite a bit. The father of my Balthazar is also Balthazar Gomes and mother Izabel da Fonte. I will dig into the birth records, backwards, to see If I'm lucky. I found from a search on the web there is a lady that has some of these Gomes in her Genealogy, it s blog, I can't remember the site I believe she has a link there to this group so I wonder if she is here. I notice she got marriages prior to 1708, for some of these Gomes, how? I am reaching the stage where probably many of you with much more experience have been as well, what next? I wonder why Santo Espirito Marriages ends in 1708 and Birth records go up to 1671? or Vila to 1630? Thank you all -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Henriques on Pico
Hi am sorry, I think you had this already, she died in Matriz da Horta (Faial) 11 / OCT / 1965 I think, hard to read! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:13 PM, wrote: > Linda, > > It would be helpful to mention the information that lead you to this > document. > If these are your ancestors in the document, it's a simple matter of > tracing generation by generation. > > Since you mentioned Simas, perhaps we're related. > I mention Simas on my website which might interest you: > www.dholmes.com/rocha1.html > > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > Original Message > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Henriques on Pico > From: Liliana Harris > Date: Thu, April 03, 2014 11:52 am > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XGD0_VEwcOI/Uz2toRYFCJI/ABI/zd331Xo6Eo0/s1600/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1879-1885_0152.jpg> > First, thanks to all who gave me suggestions to find my Azorean > great-grandfather, John Harris. The search led me to the Henriques family > on Pico. There were nine children born to Maria Simas and Jose Maria > Henriques about 1900-1920, but their names are not recorded.The father died > there. The mother has no "obituario" but her death seems to be recorded > next to her baptism. I can't decipher what it says, however. Can anyone > help? I find no Henriques there now. There's nothing in immigration > records. Does anyone have suggestions on where to look next? > -- > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Henriques on Pico
Hi, starts bottom left I managed to read a bit, image has low res! http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-C-1900-1911/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-C-1900-1911_item1/P69.html On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Liliana, > > Sent the link from the CCA site where we can control how large or small we > want the image. Only those with really good eyes will be able to read > this! > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Notes in the margin
Calheta do Nesquim, parish of council of Lajes do Pico http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calheta_de_Nesquim On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Maria Lima wrote: > Luci > > Here's what i got: > > Died in the parish of Patista (?) (the first letter looks like a P- like > the P in Pico) of M--- > Of this Council (concelho). > > "Register of obits number 45 of this conservatory, Lajes, Pico, 20 July > something something 57. > > > > > Maria Elena > > On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:20 PM, Luci wrote: > > I think I've found my grandmother's birth record. I don't speak or read > Portuguese, but I've made out most of the body of the text. I can't, > however, read the note in the margin. Can anyone help with that? It's at: > > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-CALHETANESQUIM-B-1873-1874/PIC-LJ-CALHETANESQUIM-B-1873-1874_item1/P13.html > > > She's record number 23. > > Thanks so much! > Luci > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Wedings 1849-1859 > 0038 - Help!
Olá Parente, the first capital I can't get it but the rest i am almost sure its ?ERMIANNA On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:06 PM, nancy jean baptiste < fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Angela, > > That's a hard one to read.it looks like Tereseanna but I've never seen > that name. I wondered if it could be geronima but it looks like anna on the > end. Someone else will clarify it. > > Good luck, > Nancy Jean > > Santa Maria for Cabral, Moreira, Andrade, Coelho, Melo and others. > -- > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 05:16:40 -0700 > From: angelalo...@gmail.com > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Wedings 1849-1859 > 0038 - > Help! > > Can anyone understand the name of the bride's mother? > I can tell that is something "... de Jesus", but I can't figure out the > first name... > > Left side: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1849-1859/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1849-1859_item1/P38.html > > Thanks! > > Ângela Loura > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
Feliz Aniversário Lionel, e muita saúde! Noventa e cinco anos e conduzir é um feito! Parabéns! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Kim Rowe wrote: > Happy Birthday today. > > My father isn't a list member. But he also turned 95 on February 22nd of > this year. > > Kim Rowe Jenkins >*From:* "p...@dholmes.com" > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:02 PM > > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member > > I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest > of our list members. > > It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going > strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already > had a big party on Sunday. > > Happy Birthday, Dad! > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > http://www.dholmes.com/ > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Maria - São Pedro - Online
JR, thank you, I am stuck in 1750 looking for my direct line of the Chaves (Carvalho, Mello and Freitas) branch. Records of Santo Espírito are really in bad shape. In São Pedro, my mother's line is Cabral, which I expect to trace as well way back as possible :-) regards On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:39 PM, JR wrote: > I notice you are still in the early 1800's, but believe me, when you get > to the older records, they are difficult to read. I have a few ancestors, > like Cheri and Shirley, that have their origins in early Santa Maria. There > was small and steady migration of people from Santa Maria to Sao Miguel > starting about 1695 all the way through to the 1900's. So I will be > watching in case you have similar names. Good luck Ricardo!! > > JR > > > On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:36:00 AM UTC-4, rchaves wrote: >> >> I guess Santa Maria is complete! >> >> -- >> Ricardo Chaves >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
I guess we will have to wait for her :-) I am not sure what she meant too! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Ricardo, > > I didn't go back and read the thread. I just answered from a DNA > point-of-view. I thought this was the pai incognito thread. Maybe she has > the parents and it's not pai incognito or pais incognitos. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Cheri have I read wrong or understood wrong, or Lyn already heard about his parents names? That's why I asked! *" ..I have been told his Parents names, but, each time I check this out...** but, each time I check this out. the answers don't seem to fit"* On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Yes, there are enough people in this (Google) group, but not in the DNA > Project. We have 357 Family Finder tests, we have 239 Y-DNA 37 marker > results and and only 22 more have gone out to the Y67 level (if I'm reading > this chart right). There are 655 total people in the DNA project. There > are 1221 members of this Google Group, although some emails are duplicates > (home and work, for instance). > > Family Finder - most definitely. Y67 would be good, but be sure to get > the son of the son of the son of the son of the pai incognito and be > prepared to wait. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria - São Pedro - Online
I guess Santa Maria is complete! -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese
Hi Herb, if I said any other way I didn't mean it, yes I loose myself in writing sometimes, but the issue here is only spelling, converting names, and tracking that back will be difficult if one doesn't know that, (Example) Sousa, de Sousa or DeSousa is in most cases the same thing! And I also wanted to understand why that happens there! And I am here to learn and share as well, and I did, example, I didn't know what you all referred to as a "Brick Wall" and now I do :-) and I hope I never "hit" one! Cheers On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Herb wrote: > Ricardo while I understand your concerns, we are not trying to boil the > ocean or cure world hunger here. We are simply trying to share our > experiences and hopes with each other to learn what we can about our > ancestors. It really is that simple. That's it. Herb > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Lyn, I found these records in Flores. I don't know if you can read them but there is one very very close of what you wrote. The only question is if read somewhere he was actually "Filho de pais não sabidos" then none of these will serve you, but if that's not the case and you simply don't know his parents name, and he is Silveira, then there was a very close one. Around the dates you wrote these are the closest "Josephs" I found. STA CRUZ http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P47.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P57.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1797-1833/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1797-1833_item1/P107.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P18.html JOSE 03 JAN 1830 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P19.html *JOSE DA SILVEIRA 1830* http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P20.html JOSE DA SILVEIRA 1829 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839_item1/P57.html Take care! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:53 PM, luiznoia . wrote: > Lyn, > > I've worked on many Azores to Australia and New Zealand families. > > I agree with Cheri on this. Joseph doesn't know who his parents were, so > there is no family to pursue in Flores. > > Santa Cruz and Lajes are the two concelhos of Flores, meaning he could be > born anywhere on the island. > > Going on a needle in a haystack search for a baptism record with no more > information than you already have can't help. > > Jose Silveira is one of the most common male names in the Azores, so it > would be difficult to determine when you had the right person. > > I'd think it would be better to work through the Trove site to find more > news articles that establish his life in Australia. > > http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/<http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?l-availability=y&q=dias%20francis> > > > Eric Edgar > > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > >> Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents >> names and that's what your looking for. >> >> Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a >> misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is >> SILVEIRA, and of course Silva. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: >> >>> What are his parents names? I'll give a try. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>>> Lyn S/B, >>>> >>>> If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his >>>> parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at >>>> the church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on >>>> Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais >>>> incognitos on 1 Jan 1830. >>>> >>>> I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But >>>> you can look, nevertheless. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>> membership." >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ricardo Chaves >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ric
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese
brothers learned Portuguese > first, they went to school in America and learned English. They went home > and their parents addressed them in Portuguese and they answered in English > (this still happens today, with any kid..the parents address them in the > native language, whether its Portuguese, Korean, Farsi, and the kid answers > in English). I know you are saying, "ok fine, but the 1st generation knew > Portuguese so after his education years, what happened?" I never heard my > grandfather speak any Portuguese at all. But I suppose that if someone > dropped him off in the Azores, he would have started to speak again after a > couple of weeks. So why didn't he try to hang onto it and speak some to my > dad? Because of Cupid! My immigrant ancestors had 4 boys and all 4 of > them married American, English-speaking women. Back then (1930s) the women > stayed home, cooked, and took care of the children. The moms spoke only > English. So my dad and his cousins did not learn Portuguese. I really > think that the language and culture get passed down through the moms due to > child rearing. Yet my dad and his cousins were left with their Portuguese > grandparents in the summers during WWII. This is why my dad says > Portuguese is familiar to him. His grandparents would speak Portuguese to > each other (especially if they didn't want the grandkids to know) but not > so much to the grandkids. My dad knew the words, "leite d'vaca" as his > grandmother would give him money and send him off to the store to get some > milk. The youngest grandchild (maybe 2 or 3 years old) did wind up > speaking some Portuguese initially. His parents were getting a divorce and > he was in the house with his Portuguese grandmother for a few months > (again, during WWII, probably in the summer). After the divorce was > settled (I'm guessing it was really the summer), he went back to American > mom who only spoke English and the Portuguese wasn't reinforced. And I > also look at the immigrant ancestor, Gloria. She was very, very > pro-education. She didn't have access to education in the Azores. She > barely could write her own name. My dad had to read the newspaper to her > (in English). He had to write home during the summer. She even told her > niece that education was important and to learn as much as you can and get > as much out of it as you can. The only thing that was taught in American > schools was English, because the emphasis on bilingual education hadn't > been invented yet. > > The De/Da/Do again that you mentioned to Doug: They are kind of black and > white here. You have a first name and a last name. Is de/da/do part of > your first name? No. Then it must be part of your last name and that's > how it becomes part of a last name here. There is nothing for prefixes in > the surnames. > > I hear St. Michael, St. Mary, and St. George. Yet, I never hear anyone > say that they are from Third! And no one says that here in California. > When I'm with the Portuguese community in California, they say Sao Miguel, > Santa Maria, Sao Jorge, Terceira. When I go to Massachusetts or Rhode > Island, I'm more apt to hear the St. from people there. Don't know > why they translate the saint's names on that side of the U.S. > > Spellingthe problem with that is yes, it needs to be done correctly > because when I do a search in the archives (or anyone does a search) they > can't find the post that they want. They won't find the post either if > everyone insists on using codes the whole time too (PG for Ponta Garca). I > always type out the name in full once, followed by the abbreviation or > code. That way, the reader knows exactly what I'm referring to and a > search of the archive will pull up a post from Ponta Garca. A search of PG > will turn up a bunch of junk that is not meaningful. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on first name
Hi Maria, Florencia Roza, daughter of Jose Francisco de Rezendes and his legitimate wife Engracia Roza (you can also find Engracio for male) Flora, Florbela, Florença, Florencia, Florentino, Floriana, Floripes, Florisa, Florisbela, Florival, Florentina, and Florinda are all common here! Cheers On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Maria Lima wrote: > > Left hand page, bottom name (a baptism) > > Is this name FLORENCIA? !! (Not very common name- but I'll take it :) > > It nice when you have unusual names like Engrazia, the mother in this > case,especially when the husband has a popular name like Francisco Jose. A > couple of times in my hunt here, I got sidetracked with other Francisco > Jose's but the wife was Catarina or Maria and I kept looking for Engrazia > Roza. Finally found her and knew that was really her name. Interesting > that SHE selected an unusual name for her daughter Yay! > > Thank you CCA and all those who made these records available. > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P67.html > > Maria Elena > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents names and that's what your looking for. Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is SILVEIRA, and of course Silva. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > What are his parents names? I'll give a try. > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> Lyn S/B, >> >> If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents >> were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the >> church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, >> you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos >> on 1 Jan 1830. >> >> I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But you >> can look, nevertheless. >> >> >>> >>> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
What are his parents names? I'll give a try. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Lyn S/B, > > If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents > were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the > church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, > you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos > on 1 Jan 1830. > > I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date. Too convenient. But you > can look, nevertheless. > > >> >> Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
t;>> > -- >>> > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> > --- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> > To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese
i Mello wrote: > >> The only San Miguel island that exists (that I could find on the >> Internet) is part of the Channel Islands of the coast of California. Wrong >> archipelago, wrong country, wrong ocean. And I know most people don't mean >> that! >> >> -- >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese
Sorry, i forgot to say, why do I see many times PT descendents in the US adopting this kind of surname? DeMelo DeSousa DeSilva or DaSilva etc On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > Hi, > > all that is called evolution! It has been "happening" here as time goes > by! I sure would find awkward if my name was Xaves instead of Chaves or > Joseph instead of José, or Joachim instead of Joaquim, etc. > > If you are registered with a prefix in your name, you cannot simply > decide to "throw" it away. I am DA PONTE CHAVES, and legally in Portugal, > DA PONTE is part of my grandfather's surname. > > To be able to sign my name with out the prefix "DA" I had to request that > to "Registo" Civil, and ONLY in the signature, not in the government > system, Da is still part of my name in the ID card. > > For those who have born, I would say, in the past 100 years, and their > parents chose to remove the prefix from their inherited names, will > continue to be a Chaves or Sousa etc. even with out it, the prefix was > there for ages. > > Portuguese is an evolution of Latin as you probably all know, and names, > or should I say, surnames, either than those from royalty, also have > certain origins. Don't have for granted that for example "Jon doe da Fonte" > 400 years ago an ascendent of Jon doe de Fontes" 200 years later. > > PS: Cheri, there people here still using their original ascendent names, > including Mello with 2 L! :-) > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> HI Eliseu, >> >> Try to explain that to people who immigrated to America a while ago and >> went to American schools. Roll call...and their names are in the D >> section! They seriously think their name begins with a D and they look at >> me like I'm crazy when I try to explain the pre-surname thing. >> >> But if we all did alphabetize by de, da, do, d'then a very large >> portion of Portuguese people would have surnames beginning with D! That >> would be very strange! >> >> One of the tech help guys at The Master Genealogist was a De Silva. That >> drove me nuts. It IS his legal name in America and they immigrated a long >> time ago. And his Da got corrupted into a De. And Hawaii is a whole >> different story because their spellings really got changed around. >> >> And I suppose people look at my name over in the Azores and think I can't >> spell. Actually, I know that they think that. When I used to write the >> archives, they wrote back to me as a Melo, not Mello. At my local >> Portuguese hall, they also spell my name Melo. I know how to spell my >> legal name and I know that he emigrated in 1903 before the spelling change >> and that I carry the "old" spelling. I just go with the flow. >> >> But yes, searches in Portuguese databases need to be done without >> de/da/do/d' and in American searches, try it every which way you can! >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese
Hi, all that is called evolution! It has been "happening" here as time goes by! I sure would find awkward if my name was Xaves instead of Chaves or Joseph instead of José, or Joachim instead of Joaquim, etc. If you are registered with a prefix in your name, you cannot simply decide to "throw" it away. I am DA PONTE CHAVES, and legally in Portugal, DA PONTE is part of my grandfather's surname. To be able to sign my name with out the prefix "DA" I had to request that to "Registo" Civil, and ONLY in the signature, not in the government system, Da is still part of my name in the ID card. For those who have born, I would say, in the past 100 years, and their parents chose to remove the prefix from their inherited names, will continue to be a Chaves or Sousa etc. even with out it, the prefix was there for ages. Portuguese is an evolution of Latin as you probably all know, and names, or should I say, surnames, either than those from royalty, also have certain origins. Don't have for granted that for example "Jon doe da Fonte" 400 years ago an ascendent of Jon doe de Fontes" 200 years later. PS: Cheri, there people here still using their original ascendent names, including Mello with 2 L! :-) On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > HI Eliseu, > > Try to explain that to people who immigrated to America a while ago and > went to American schools. Roll call...and their names are in the D > section! They seriously think their name begins with a D and they look at > me like I'm crazy when I try to explain the pre-surname thing. > > But if we all did alphabetize by de, da, do, d'then a very large > portion of Portuguese people would have surnames beginning with D! That > would be very strange! > > One of the tech help guys at The Master Genealogist was a De Silva. That > drove me nuts. It IS his legal name in America and they immigrated a long > time ago. And his Da got corrupted into a De. And Hawaii is a whole > different story because their spellings really got changed around. > > And I suppose people look at my name over in the Azores and think I can't > spell. Actually, I know that they think that. When I used to write the > archives, they wrote back to me as a Melo, not Mello. At my local > Portuguese hall, they also spell my name Melo. I know how to spell my > legal name and I know that he emigrated in 1903 before the spelling change > and that I carry the "old" spelling. I just go with the flow. > > But yes, searches in Portuguese databases need to be done without > de/da/do/d' and in American searches, try it every which way you can! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
JR, I want to thank you again and let you know he is, after all, Balthazar Gomes Freitas, got his son record today! Take care On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > Marriages and Deaths for Santo Espirito are online! > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > >> Thank you JR, I was wrong, I said window of 1780-1800 but that's my >> estimated period of his son's birth, Manuel Mello. >> >> So I think Balthazar Gomes is at least 20 years earlier. >> >> Gomes is not a very common surname in Santa Maria Island. I have an >> impression that he might be from some other place. >> >> Anyway, thank you for your help >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, JR wrote: >> >>> Sorry, the Baltasar Gomes I have if from early 1700 VF with children in >>> Ponta Garca. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:08:11 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: >>>> >>>> I think I have baltazar games in my files. Will look when I get home. >>> >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ricardo Chaves >> >> > > > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
Marriages and Deaths for Santo Espirito are online! On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > Thank you JR, I was wrong, I said window of 1780-1800 but that's my > estimated period of his son's birth, Manuel Mello. > > So I think Balthazar Gomes is at least 20 years earlier. > > Gomes is not a very common surname in Santa Maria Island. I have an > impression that he might be from some other place. > > Anyway, thank you for your help > > Cheers > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, JR wrote: > >> Sorry, the Baltasar Gomes I have if from early 1700 VF with children in >> Ponta Garca. >> >> JR >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:08:11 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: >>> >>> I think I have baltazar games in my files. Will look when I get home. >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
Thank you JR, I was wrong, I said window of 1780-1800 but that's my estimated period of his son's birth, Manuel Mello. So I think Balthazar Gomes is at least 20 years earlier. Gomes is not a very common surname in Santa Maria Island. I have an impression that he might be from some other place. Anyway, thank you for your help Cheers On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, JR wrote: > Sorry, the Baltasar Gomes I have if from early 1700 VF with children in > Ponta Garca. > > JR > > > On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:08:11 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: >> >> I think I have baltazar games in my files. Will look when I get home. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
Hello Group, I would like to let you know, specially the ones mentioning a Mello lineage from Sao Miguel, that following my direct line, as once already wrote, went from Chaves to Carvalho and then to Mello. Well, next generation changes again! Which is GOMES. The father of my Manuel Jose de Mello is *Balthazar Gomes!!!* Has anyone came across this "fellow" I would say between 1780 - 1800 ? Cheers On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > Hello researchers, > > I would like to know if anyone in the group is researching CARVALHO in > Santa Maria. I am connected to one of the branches of these families. If > anyone is and already had a connection to them prior 1842 and may be > connected to Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho married to Umbelina Maria de > Chaves, from Nossa Senhora da Gloria, Santo Espirito, church of Nossa > Senhora da Purificacao, and would like to share information with me, please > send me an email. > > I don't have dates, I just took some notes from one of their children who > is my tetravo Bernardino. I have recently researched marriages from 1820 to > 1850 and I couldn't find them. I was a bit in a hurry and I may have > skipped a name or two, I will check the books again soon, hopefully! > > Thank you so much > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abbreviation-da Roxa
Ok, thank you Diane! Regards On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Diane George wrote: > Sorry, it is not. So far I have no one from Sao Miguel, only Faial, Pico > and Terceira. > > > > Diane George > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Ricardo Chaves > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:51 AM > *To:* Azores Geneolagy; Azores Geneolagy > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abbreviation-da Roxa > > > > Hello Diane, > > > > could you share if that marriage is from Santo Antonio Alem Capelas - Sao > Miguel? If yes we may be connected. Thanks > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Diane Geoge > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is "da Roxa" an abbreviation for da Rocha or for something else? I have a > marriage record from CCA that uses that name, however in the NEPS data for > the same marriage, the name is shown as "da Rosa." It is very clear in the > CCA record that it is an "x" and not an "s." > > > > Diane George > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > > > -- > > Ricardo Chaves > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria Island - Parochial Records
Hello Marcio, Thank you, I didn't know that, maybe when they told me that they didn't specified what documents. Thanks Are you researching Santa Maria? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Marcio wrote: > Ricardo, i believe the dates you have are for baptisms. Yes baptisms for > Assuncao start in 1630 but marriages start in 1599 and deaths in 1701. > Usually CCA starts with a parish births and after to marriages and finally > deaths. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:52 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > > Hello group, in special the "Cagarros" :-) > > Here is the table of what CCA has for Santa Maria: > > There are five Parishes (Freguesias) in Santa Maria, although Almagreira > is a young Parish, they have books for "Nossa Senhora do Bom Despacho". > > *Vila do Porto - Santa Maria* > > *Nossa Senhora da Assunção* (Vila do Porto, also know as Igreja Matriz) > - 1599 - 1911 > It seams that because of the deterioration of some books, they started > from 1630, I'm just guessing, by the aspect of their first published book. > > *Santa Bárbara* (Santa Bárbara) 1640 - 1911 > > *Nossa Senhora da Purificação* (Santo Espírito) 1671 - 1911 > > *São Pedro* (São Pedro) 1670 - 1911 > > *Nossa Senhora do Bom Despacho* (Almagreira) 1903 - 1911 > *Prior to 1903 records are in Assunção* - Vila do Porto, where Almagreira > was part of it, but in the records, Nossa Senhora do Bom Despacho is many > times mentioned as their birth place, etc. > > *Note: *In some cases, or all, the record books may still not be > available to CCA up to 1911, hopefully they will be "collected" from the > churches (if any) when available, its a gradual process with some "rules". > This information was given to me in 2009 by BPARPD. > > A good link for Wikipedia with extensive work about ALL Igrejas, Capelas > and Ermidas of Santa Maria. > > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilha_de_Santa_Maria#Arquitetura_religiosa > > Good luck > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria Island - Parochial Records
Hello group, in special the "Cagarros" :-) Here is the table of what CCA has for Santa Maria: There are five Parishes (Freguesias) in Santa Maria, although Almagreira is a young Parish, they have books for "Nossa Senhora do Bom Despacho". *Vila do Porto - Santa Maria* *Nossa Senhora da Assunção* (Vila do Porto, also know as Igreja Matriz) - 1599 - 1911 It seams that because of the deterioration of some books, they started from 1630, I'm just guessing, by the aspect of their first published book. *Santa Bárbara* (Santa Bárbara) 1640 - 1911 *Nossa Senhora da Purificação* (Santo Espírito) 1671 - 1911 *São Pedro* (São Pedro) 1670 - 1911 *Nossa Senhora do Bom Despacho* (Almagreira) 1903 - 1911 *Prior to 1903 records are in Assunção* - Vila do Porto, where Almagreira was part of it, but in the records, Nossa Senhora do Bom Despacho is many times mentioned as their birth place, etc. *Note: *In some cases, or all, the record books may still not be available to CCA up to 1911, hopefully they will be "collected" from the churches (if any) when available, its a gradual process with some "rules". This information was given to me in 2009 by BPARPD. A good link for Wikipedia with extensive work about ALL Igrejas, Capelas and Ermidas of Santa Maria. http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilha_de_Santa_Maria#Arquitetura_religiosa Good luck -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abbreviation-da Roxa
Hello Diane, could you share if that marriage is from Santo Antonio Alem Capelas - Sao Miguel? If yes we may be connected. Thanks On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Diane Geoge wrote: > Hi, > > > > Is "da Roxa" an abbreviation for da Rocha or for something else? I have a > marriage record from CCA that uses that name, however in the NEPS data for > the same marriage, the name is shown as "da Rosa." It is very clear in the > CCA record that it is an "x" and not an "s." > > > > Diane George > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
Cheri, the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already, before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto. And those are the only Parishes online for now. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > There are 5 freguesias on Santa Maria, but 4 only have records because one > is too "new." You can find them on the Azores GenWeb page and Kathy will > provide the links to the CCA records from the Azores GenWeb site. You can > also access the records from the Tombo site, but he hasn't crawled the CCA > yet. Maybe tonight. http://tombo.pt/d/acores > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> Repost for Maria Lima: >> I just found Santa Maria island is online. I just don't know if that's >> all the parishes for now. Got lots,of looking to do and the priest had >> beautiful penmanship. (At least the Casa mentors in 1790-ish. >> >> Maria Elena >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> > > > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site
Today is a great day for the "Genealogistas Cagarros" [?] Thank you CCA!!! On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:09 PM, EResendes wrote: > CCA now has two villages from Concelho of Vila do Porto. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. <>
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Struggling with the last part of this marriage record
Erica, "... e contraente nesta sobre dita Matriz" = In this "aforesaid" Matriz. I think she is from Sao Sebastioo too! Good luck On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Erica Botelho < audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote: > I have been unable to locate the baptismal record for the bride in this > marriage record, or a marriage record for her parents. I am starting to > think I may be looking in the wrong parish. > > > > This is from Sao Sebastiao parish and is the marriage record for Manoel > Jose de Costa and Maria Roza. Here is what I have for the bride: > > The bride is Maria Roza, daughter of Antonio de Oliveira and Roza da > Trindade, deceased. Baptized ... > > > > "Google translate" is not making sense of this last phrase. > > > > The record is on the left. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792_item1/P52.html > > > > Erica Botelho > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: GenScriber - helpul to us, Azorean rechearchers?
Obrigado João, I'm aware of the no OCR! That would be a miracle lol! Specially on those 1700 records! I will have a try on my Ubuntu machine then. Its a very handy tool but I don't like the Excel format, a simple notepad would be great! Cheers On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM, João Ventura wrote: > Olá, Ricardo > > Yes, I use Linux. > > BTW, I think the Excel columns are where you type the data that you're > transcribing from the original document. Note that there's no OCR involved, > it's just a nice UI where you have both the image of the original and the > spreadsheet open in the same window. OCR on paleographic documents is an > advanced PhD thesis subject (or even a multi-year project for a team of > PhDs). > > João > > On Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:58:48 UTC+1, rchaves wrote: >> >> Olá Angela, >> >> Obrigado, looks promising, they have a "portable" version, good to have >> it in your "pen" and run it anywhere! Will give it a try with more time. >> What are the "Excel" style columns in the writing area? Have you tried it? >> >> Anyone in this list uses Linux? >> >> I can write you "off-list" in Português if you like! >> >> Cheers >> >> On Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:56:01 PM UTC-1, Ângela Loura wrote: >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I found this software and I decided to give it a try and installed it. >>> It looks interesting and helpful as one tries to understand and\or >>> "decode", or even make a word make sense from the CCA records. >>> >>> Please, tell me what you think: >>> >>> http://genscriber.com/genappsd/download-for-windows-81.html >>> >>> Cumprimentos, >>> >>> Angela Loura >>> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism from Achada, Nordeste
Aaron, I took the liberty, Dano got it right with the numbers! Check the link Cheers http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1837-1844/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1837-1844_item1/P123.html On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Dano wrote: > It says that record is displayed in book 11 Batismos - not exactly sure > what that means, except that it possibly fell out of this register and had > to be reposted in another. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "Cabouquiero" and "Proprietero"
Hello group, there are no mines in Azores, no coal, iron, gold (I wish) diamonds, or any other material, besides CAL (Calcarium) at piratically ground level, done in some of the Islands, including Santa Maria. In my first post, i think is what they are referring to a man who works with a hoe. These people or were Cabouqueiro, Pescador, Maritmo, Trabalhador, Seareiro, Jornaleiro, Camponez, Camponeo, etc. are ALL poor people with very few resources who work land, from sun to sun "Sol a Sol" Proprietário, in general, is a man who owns land, and pays, or not, people to work it, some payed rent with work or part of their crop. There is also a possibility, of a man, today called CALCETEIRO, who laid stone bricks on roads "CALÇADA", he could be one of those, the Cabouqueiro! Cheers On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:22 PM, wrote: > Hermano, > > Do you think that's what they are referring to with that word, cabouqueiro? > That certainly seems possible. I wouldn't consider that a mine is the same > as a rock quarry, would you? > When I think of a mine, I imagine a hole going deep under ground and where > they are getting ore (gold, silver, diamonds, etc). Are there any mines in > the Azores? > > In any case, I have lots of ancestors whose occupation was pedreiro and so > when I am doing landscaping, such as building a brick path, I often think > of them. But I never really thought much about the quarries where they > would get their building materials. So thanks for that. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > Original Message > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "Cabouquiero" and > "Proprietero" > From: "Hermano C. Pires" > Date: Sat, February 15, 2014 4:17 pm > To: "azores@googlegroups.com" > > Doug > Are you forgetting the rock quarries. > I know tha where I come from, (one the Parishes in Lagoa is > Cabouco) Lagoa, S. Miguel there were at least three that kept a few men > ocupied. :) > > -- > From: p...@dholmes.com > To: azores@googlegroups.com > CC: maria.lima...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "Cabouquiero" and "Proprietero" > Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:06:49 -0700 > > Maria, > > I got a copy of my message about this and it didn't come empty. > But in case I'm the only one who got it, I'm replying with my original > message quoted below. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > Original Message > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "Cabouquiero" and > "Proprietero" > From: > Date: Sat, February 15, 2014 10:33 am > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > I have serious doubts that the translation of caboqueiro, cavoqueiro, > cabouqueiro means they worked in mines. > > I have checked several of my marriage databases for the various Pico and > Terceira villages where they list the occupations of the groom and it seems > to me the definition we should be applying is one more like the laborer > working in the fields and digging the dirt. Maybe it could also apply to > someone digging for construction in city projects, perhaps working with the > stone masons to build a house. > > There certainly might be mines on every island, but there's no way they > are in every village on every island where we can find men listed like that > when they are married and when their occupations are listed at the time one > of their children is baptized. > > Seems to me they would use the term "mineiro" for someone working in a > mine. > > Maybe a native of the Azores could enlighten us more about this. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged,
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of "Cabouquiero" and "Proprietero"
:) Hacker! hehe! Sorry, its funny! Maria, Cabouqueiro could be a man who works on lands with a hoe! Proprietario is Owner. They were classified as someone who owned the lands! Cheers On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Maria Lima wrote: > The google dictionary says: "Hacker". How would that fit in to their > lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero > then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is > proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation > says it means "owner". > > Thanks for any insight. > > Maria Elena > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name
Thank you all, specially Dano! I've said many times, I am here to learn. Rodney, all I wanted to say in my very first post, was that your search IN CCA should be São Miguel - Povoação - Faial da Terra! Your record is from 1747, and Água Retorta ends in 1768, and Rick saw that as well! My apologies for being "short" on that one! Good luck On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Dano wrote: > The point of the question is where the mother was from. She wasn't from > Faial, she was from Agua Retorta, which had an Ermida (Nossa Senhora da > Penha da Franca). That Ermida was subordinate (sufragenea) to Nossa Senhora > da Graca, which was in Faial da Terra. (case closed)! > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name
Both are mentioned in the record, Agua Retorta's ERMIDA is in the above line of Faial da Terra's Church line! On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Dano wrote: > Well, you're close... the church (chapel) Ermida de Nossa Senhora da Penha > da Franca, and it is located in Agua Retorta (not Faial da Terra).. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help With Translation
Hi, its "FUNDO DA RUA" Word FUNDO means bottom! Also many times used is TERMO DE , that means end of a place, where another starts, or very close to it! FENDA means crack! God parents: Francisco Raposo de Resendes and his sister Maria Rapozo Resendes On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:12 AM, shannon hooper wrote: > Thank you so very much!! Can you tell what comes after 'forem padrinhos'? > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:06:42 PM UTC-6, shannon hooper wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I have just recently begun tracing family lines into the Azores and have >> just recently discovered this group. I was hoping that you could help. >> I've been able to translate some of this record, but I am completely lost >> with the remainder. I have included the link to the record and the >> translation I've been able to complete. Any insight would be greatly >> appreciated! >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >> PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1884-1887/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1884- >> 1887_item1/P48.html >> >> N 22 Maria >> Aos vinte e tres dias do mez maio do ano demil oito cento oitenta seis >> nesta Fayal parochialde Nossa Senhora da Graca do lugar do Fayalconcelho da >> Pavoacao Diocese de Angra baptiseisolenemente um individuo sexo femininoa >> quem dei a nome de Maria e que nasceunesta frequezia nulas quatro horas >> of a tardede dia quatorze deste mesmo mês filha legítimaprimeira of a >> nome de Manuel Pereirade Mello trabalhador natural of esta frequezia e >> Fria de Jesus do occupaceo domestica naturala freqiezia de Nossa Senhora >> Mae De DeosLa villa da Pavoacao recebido nesta deNossa Senhora da Graca >> onde são paroquianosmoradores no sendo da ??rua?? neta ??fia??termo de >> Mariano Pereira e Barbarade Mello materno de avós incógnitos >> forem padrinhos >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name
I beleive its FAIAL DA TERRA - POVOACAO - SAO MIGUEL good luck On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Rodney Figueiredo wrote: > I found a marriage record for one of my ancestors Manoel de Medeiros in > Vila Franca do Campo in 1747. It mentions that his mother Antonia Raposa de > Medeiros was from somewhere in Faial, but I can't quite make out the parish > name. Any help would be appreciated. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763_item1/P40.html > > Thanks, > > Rodney > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interesting purple stuff on the pages
Isabella, GREAT blog, loved the photo colorizing article! On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Tish M wrote: > Hello Isabella, > I applaud your work. > Tish > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Isabella Baltar < > myportuguese...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I went to Terceira for two reasons, one to do research on my family and >> the second one, where I spent most of my time, was to help the BPARAH on >> the conservation of their archives and library. >> >> Unfortunately, only one room of the library has humidity control (for the >> rare docs and books) otherwise all the windows are open. The worst on this >> situation, besides the lack of money, is that, believe me, there is no acid >> free paper on the market in Portugal. Such a basic thing here in US, where >> you find everywhere. So, it took me and Marcolino Candeias, the director of >> BPARAH, a lot of time trying to find a source of acid free paper and >> conservation material in Portugal and we didn't find, we even talked with >> Torre do Tombo conservators. The only solution is: everything must be >> imported and the burocracy instead of helping just makes things worst. It >> is very sad. >> >> Next time I go to Terceira, maybe later this year, I will take with me >> conservation material for them to use. A donation for BPARAH and I hope to >> get people to help me on that. >> >> Isabella Baltar >> myportuguesegen.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:58:17 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >>> The only mold I've seen has been black. The mildew is brown. I know >>> it's humid there. The old archive in Ponta Delgada had no humidity >>> control. They just opened the window! The newer archive has central air >>> and is most likely humidity controlled. I can't remember what the archive >>> was like in Angra. Never been to the one in Horta. All the ones in >>> America are central air with humidity control. >>> >>> Never knew it could turn purple though! Interesting to know! >>> Thanks, >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>> Tainhas, Achada >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > sfig > Researching > Island: Santa Maria > Freguesia: Santa Barbara > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mello, Jacome, Velho, Sao Pedro on Santa Maria island
Thanks, that's new for me Cheri, but then again, I haven't reached anything, before 1800 yet, in any of my lines! On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Ricardo, > > Back in the day, women (when they had surnames) would be Velha instead of > Velho, Pacheca instead of Pacheco, Furtada instead of Furtado. But they > never made a woman a Mella. I don't know the rhyme or reason for this. > > I haven't standardized all the entries in my genealogy program (making all > Velho/a as Velho, all Pacheco/a as Pacheco). I just typed what I saw and > didn't think. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mello, Jacome, Velho, Sao Pedro on Santa Maria island
Wow Cheri, 1680!!! I have a long way to go, thanks for this, could be a good info for future reference or connection! n Santa Maria, Velho is more common, like Gonçalo Velho Cabral! Are you saying there were Velha also, feminine? On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Manuel Jacome was born c. 1680s in Sao Pedro on Santa Maria island. He > migrated over to Vila Franca on Sao Miguel island and married 9 May 1706 at > Sao Miguel Arcanjo church to Maria de Mello (daughter of Amaro de Mello and > Isabel Velha). Manuel died 1 July 1730 in Vila Franca (S. Miguel Arcanjo), > > Manuel Jacome was the son of Manuel Jacome and Guimar Velha. The records > don't go back far enough or are in such bad condition that the marriage has > not been found. Shirley Allegre did the work on this branch and found the > following children for Manuel Jacome and Guimar Velha: > 1) Maria Jacome, born c. 1673, Sao Pedro on S.Maria island, m. Antonio de > Arruda at SMA in Vila Franca > 2) Catarina de Mello, b. c. 1685, S.Pedro on S. Maria island, m. Simao > Gonsalves at SMA in Vila Franca. > 3) Manuel Jacome, b. 1680s (above) in S.Pedro on S.Maria island, m. Maria > de Mello at SMA in Vila Franca. > 4) Francisco Jacome, b. S.Pedro on S.Maria island, m. Antonia Fernandes in > 1709 at SMA in Vila Franca. > > I don't know when Manuel Jacome died, but his wife, Guimar Velha died 17 > Jul 1729 at SMA in Vila Franca. I would think that Manuel also died in > Vila Franca. > > And that's my Santa Maria line. Actually, anyone who has Antonio de Mello > and Constancia de Jesus Pimentel from Ponta Garca descend from this couple. > > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records
I have worked directly with Registo Civil by email, I don't know all of them are able to do it, I sent data, asked price, asked IBAN , sent money, they sent the paper copy to my address. Its a PDF File good luck! http://www.nacionalidade.sef.pt/docs/CR_civil.pdf On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Manuel, > > You can try first at the Portal do Cidadao. You will have to register and > obtain id and password. I've been able to get all my certified copies this > way but you will need some understanding of portuguese. Order the long > form, certified. Because the birth year is 1900 it may not be available. > Check it out, link below. > > https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/certidoes_online/ > > Recently my cousin was faced with the same problem but she visited the > Consulate in Boston and gave them the photocopy of the record from the > public archives. Consulate accepted it saying it was fine and that they > would get the certified copy. Perhaps you want to try showing them what > you have first before ordering it. > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> Manuel E.C., >> >> I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil >> Registry, unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records. I >> know we can get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are >> valid for your purpose. >> >> The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao. >> Conservatória do Registo Civil >> 9650 Povoação >> São Miguel, Açôres >> Portugal >> >> They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though. >> >> When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your >> R.Quente families. I have some lines from there. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >> Tainhas, Achada >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
Hello, *Tish M,* *First:* I'm very happy to see active Santa Maria researchers in the group. Angela Loura is also from Santa Maria! I notice you're researching Santa Barbara, so am I, on FREITAS, my mother's side! *Second:* Overwhelmed with your good will, by sending me this record. Yes I have everything to believe Jose Antonio Carvalho is my Tetraavo's brother, I have this record, but I thank you very much anyway. *Third:* I asked Rick about Mello, because I saw Jose's grandparents in the book at the library, but in those days I didn't have that much experience and knowledge as today, result of many and many and many books I have seen and also a lot of information about my ancestors, through my family. My Dad is very skeptic about this hole "de Mello" story, lol! He is 65, and he doesn't like the Idea that we should be Mello, or Carvalho, and not Chaves LOL... But I am getting him around slowly! *Richard,* have we talked about Pimentel in the past? I believe we did. I have been trying to addict my wife into Genealogy lately, because I started her tree as well in the past, but mine has become so much time consumption that I put hers on standby. She has Pimentel from Achada - Nordeste. But lets leave that to another related thread! *John* thank you for your input. I haven't reached there yet, I wish I get there, but I'm a bit of "small step" of a time, I don't like to step ahead, I always check everything carefully and then when I am sure and have all the info in my database, then I move on! -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
PS: I married in Nordeste :), talking about airplanes! I am from Santa Maria, sometimes I tell my wife, if this goes on, we might end up being cousins LOL On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > Hello Rick, > > I wonder, have you found any de Mello in between those Carvalho, before > 1800 ? Through all this family root journey, I have found that my ancestors > came from and went to Santa Maria, sometimes three generations difference. > > Don't ask me why but probably in the pursuit of a better life, work > perhaps, or maybe because one or another knew their grandfather or more > distant, came from there, OR, from here, Sao Miguel! > > It would not be a surprise at all that once again, my Carvalho lineage > came from Sao Miguel, or those from Bretanha, were actually from there, > Santa Maria. This I already confirmed with my Resendes lineage. > > Three generations back, they were all born in Santo Antonio, Ponta > Delgada, but the fourth, came from Santa Maria. Imagine if they had an > airport!! Until now I am still int the Eastern Group, I wouldn't be > surprised sooner or later I will end up in another Island, rather than Sao > Miguel or Santa Maria. > > Thank you for your input Rick! > > Cheers > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> *Hello Ricardo,* >> >> >> >> *As far as I know I have not found connections to Santa Maria but what I >> find interesting is the middle name Joaquim. My great grandfather was >> Manuel Joaquim de Carvalho and was born in Bretanha in 1862, His father was >> Jacinto Joaquim de Carvalho was born in Bretanha in 1825, His father was >> Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho who was born in Bretanha around 1781 ( >> interestingly his wife was Lucrecia Umbelina) I have also found an uncle >> born around 1865 by the name of Jose Joaquim de Carvalho. All of these were >> the decendants of Joaquim de Carvalho who was born around 1750 in Bretanha >> or Ginetes.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Spring, TX* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Ricardo Chaves >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:15 AM >> *To:* Azores Geneolagy >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo >> Espirito >> >> >> >> Hello researchers, >> >> >> >> I would like to know if anyone in the group is researching CARVALHO in >> Santa Maria. I am connected to one of the branches of these families. If >> anyone is and already had a connection to them prior 1842 and may be >> connected to Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho married to Umbelina Maria de >> Chaves, from Nossa Senhora da Gloria, Santo Espirito, church of Nossa >> Senhora da Purificacao, and would like to share information with me, please >> send me an email. >> >> >> >> I don't have dates, I just took some notes from one of their children who >> is my tetravo Bernardino. I have recently researched marriages from 1820 to >> 1850 and I couldn't find them. I was a bit in a hurry and I may have >> skipped a name or two, I will check the books again soon, hopefully! >> >> >> >> Thank you so much >> >> -- >> >> Ricardo Chaves >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealo
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
Hello Rick, I wonder, have you found any de Mello in between those Carvalho, before 1800 ? Through all this family root journey, I have found that my ancestors came from and went to Santa Maria, sometimes three generations difference. Don't ask me why but probably in the pursuit of a better life, work perhaps, or maybe because one or another knew their grandfather or more distant, came from there, OR, from here, Sao Miguel! It would not be a surprise at all that once again, my Carvalho lineage came from Sao Miguel, or those from Bretanha, were actually from there, Santa Maria. This I already confirmed with my Resendes lineage. Three generations back, they were all born in Santo Antonio, Ponta Delgada, but the fourth, came from Santa Maria. Imagine if they had an airport!! Until now I am still int the Eastern Group, I wouldn't be surprised sooner or later I will end up in another Island, rather than Sao Miguel or Santa Maria. Thank you for your input Rick! Cheers On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *Hello Ricardo,* > > > > *As far as I know I have not found connections to Santa Maria but what I > find interesting is the middle name Joaquim. My great grandfather was > Manuel Joaquim de Carvalho and was born in Bretanha in 1862, His father was > Jacinto Joaquim de Carvalho was born in Bretanha in 1825, His father was > Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho who was born in Bretanha around 1781 ( > interestingly his wife was Lucrecia Umbelina) I have also found an uncle > born around 1865 by the name of Jose Joaquim de Carvalho. All of these were > the decendants of Joaquim de Carvalho who was born around 1750 in Bretanha > or Ginetes.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Ricardo Chaves > *Sent:* Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:15 AM > *To:* Azores Geneolagy > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo > Espirito > > > > Hello researchers, > > > > I would like to know if anyone in the group is researching CARVALHO in > Santa Maria. I am connected to one of the branches of these families. If > anyone is and already had a connection to them prior 1842 and may be > connected to Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho married to Umbelina Maria de > Chaves, from Nossa Senhora da Gloria, Santo Espirito, church of Nossa > Senhora da Purificacao, and would like to share information with me, please > send me an email. > > > > I don't have dates, I just took some notes from one of their children who > is my tetravo Bernardino. I have recently researched marriages from 1820 to > 1850 and I couldn't find them. I was a bit in a hurry and I may have > skipped a name or two, I will check the books again soon, hopefully! > > > > Thank you so much > > -- > > Ricardo Chaves > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito
Hello researchers, I would like to know if anyone in the group is researching CARVALHO in Santa Maria. I am connected to one of the branches of these families. If anyone is and already had a connection to them prior 1842 and may be connected to Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho married to Umbelina Maria de Chaves, from Nossa Senhora da Gloria, Santo Espirito, church of Nossa Senhora da Purificacao, and would like to share information with me, please send me an email. I don't have dates, I just took some notes from one of their children who is my tetravo Bernardino. I have recently researched marriages from 1820 to 1850 and I couldn't find them. I was a bit in a hurry and I may have skipped a name or two, I will check the books again soon, hopefully! Thank you so much -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese words for blessing
Hi Chery, I remember in the old days, my grandparents showing us grandchildren a "weird face" if we forgot to ask them for their blessing. We don't hear it so often today, but is still common in some more rural places. It was also a sign of respect! In some kind of "slang" one of the most common expressions was "Vó Bença" which was a request, correctly written as "Avó a sua Benção" and the reply would be, from the grandparent, "Deus de Abençoe". Was used also with parents, and uncles, etc. Specially in those families who took religion more serious. In English, "Please you blessing" and "God bless you" There are many variants of this tradition, depending on the Island maybe, or even village and age of generations, this is the one I was raised with. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Repost for Henry Araujo, henryaraujo at yahoo.com > > i te abençoe was the reply that your vavó probably used > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA mix up
ou >> trying to sell something?" >> >> Well, I'm studding my family roots, simply for the love of it! >> >> last 2 cents on this one! >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, João Ventura wrote: >> >>> Ricardo, >>> >>> No. What you should complain about is that the central government >>> archives have developed a FREE tool that provides pretty good access to >>> these archives (It's the one used in >>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/<http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1019364>). >>> But for some reason, the CCA decided to have Via Oceanica develop a >>> separate interface that has basically no search, and allows these kinds of >>> duplicates. I'm sure the Via Oceanica contract is not free. What the CCA >>> currently has is actually two systems running in parallel. One is extremely >>> powerful, and allows them to catalog their archives (which is what they're >>> using it for), and also to provide access to digital versions of the same >>> (which they don't). The other, is clearly designed to run the CCA 'content' >>> website and allows some browsing in the digital archive, via a pretty >>> simple interface. >>> >>> As to whether these things should be free or not.. That's another story >>> altogether. >>> >>> João Ventura >>> http://tombo.pt >>> >>> On Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:30:39 UTC+1, rchaves wrote: >>>> >>>> In my humble opinion, and after receiving a recently, and very polite >>>> reply, from a Massachusetts archive institute, saying that they have >>>> associated with one of the biggest online genealogy PAYED websites, saying >>>> I could go through them, payed, or FREE, locally, unfortunately I cant go >>>> there as often as I wanted, I live in the Azores since 1974 , I >>>> believe that CCA should actually put everything down and do the same!! >>>> >>>> Depois se calhar não haveriam tantas "mess" que tem estado a ser >>>> disponibilizadas de graça e que a maioria desse trabalho está a ser pago >>>> com dinheiro publico, de contribuintes Portugueses, como eu, e que ainda >>>> bem há pouco tempo, paguei por registos que ainda não estão publicados >>>> online, de Santa Maria, mas que paguei porque precisava deles! >>>> >>>> I have sent emails to CCA complaining about "messes" like those and >>>> they fixed them, thanking me for alerting them about them, and they didn't >>>> took too long to fixed them. Their email is available on CCA website. They >>>> can read and write English too! >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM, João Ventura wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, I noticed that. In my page for S. Roque it's easy to see the bug: >>>>> http://tombo.pt/f/pdl18 >>>>> >>>>> It's not the only problem. There's two books which are inaccessible >>>>> via CCA, and two books which are show up twice in the listing. That >>>>> interface is a mess. I wish they'd just give up and replace it with this >>>>> one: http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1019364 >>>>> >>>>> João Ventura >>>>> http://tombo.pt >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, 31 January 2014 22:49:46 UTC+1, Azoreanno wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I notested that the 1740-46 baptisms for S. Roque do Rosto de Cão are >>>>>> mixed up with the Santo-Antonio-Alem-Capelas baptisms >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcio Borba >>>>>> Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>>> membership." >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vessel Olinda
Its a start I believe, there is not much there, yes but bits here, bits there, we migth get somewhere. At least she knows that in 1891 there were at least times OLINDA went to NY. With that info, I would try to look where ever she may have already looked but with different dates. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:45 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: > I looked at the Olinda manifest that arrived 6/2/1891 and I did not see > any name that looked like hers. Also, the manifest does not give very much > information on the passengers. > > "E" > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > >> At Doug's website, he is in this group >> >> http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html#new york >> >> cheers >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:38 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: >> >>> I looked on Ancestry for her and thus far did not find her. I think >>> Rosemarie is right that she came under a different name and this is not >>> unusual. >>> >>> "E" >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:35 AM, GENEVA wrote: >>> >>>> I am a member on Ellis but just can't seem to find her. She was put up >>>> for adoption and raised in Portugal by a family with the last name of >>>> Fereira or Ferreira. She then came to the US at 16 yrs old. I am sure she >>>> must have come with a member of the Ferreira family. >>>> Thanks for trying to help me out. >>>> -- >>>> *From: *"Ricardo Chaves" >>>> *To: *"Azores Geneolagy" >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:24:51 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vessel Olinda >>>> >>>> Gervais, >>>> >>>> i've used this one, they have good info, good luck >>>> http://www.ellisisland.org/default.asp?SID=2188&gclid=CMvG6MvIsrwCFU_KtAodLksAHQ >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:05 PM, ggervais1...@centurylink.net < >>>> ggervais1...@centurylink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looking for some help to solve a mystery.On my great grandmother's >>>>> declaration of intention she states she came to the United states from St >>>>> Michael's Azores to New York under a different name on February 2, 1891 on >>>>> the vessel OLINDA. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of vessels >>>>> passenger list. Since she listed her birthdate a year later I am thinking >>>>> that the date she arrived maybe wrong also. She came under the name >>>>> Violanti Ferreira. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> G.C. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>>> membership." >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ricardo Chaves >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>>> membership." >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/grou
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vessel Olinda
At Doug's website, he is in this group http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html#new york cheers On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:38 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: > I looked on Ancestry for her and thus far did not find her. I think > Rosemarie is right that she came under a different name and this is not > unusual. > > "E" > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:35 AM, GENEVA wrote: > >> I am a member on Ellis but just can't seem to find her. She was put up >> for adoption and raised in Portugal by a family with the last name of >> Fereira or Ferreira. She then came to the US at 16 yrs old. I am sure she >> must have come with a member of the Ferreira family. >> Thanks for trying to help me out. >> -- >> *From: *"Ricardo Chaves" >> *To: *"Azores Geneolagy" >> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:24:51 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vessel Olinda >> >> Gervais, >> >> i've used this one, they have good info, good luck >> http://www.ellisisland.org/default.asp?SID=2188&gclid=CMvG6MvIsrwCFU_KtAodLksAHQ >> >> cheers >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:05 PM, ggervais1...@centurylink.net < >> ggervais1...@centurylink.net> wrote: >> >>> Looking for some help to solve a mystery.On my great grandmother's >>> declaration of intention she states she came to the United states from St >>> Michael's Azores to New York under a different name on February 2, 1891 on >>> the vessel OLINDA. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of vessels >>> passenger list. Since she listed her birthdate a year later I am thinking >>> that the date she arrived maybe wrong also. She came under the name >>> Violanti Ferreira. >>> >>> Thanks >>> G.C. >>> >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ricardo Chaves >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from t
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vessel Olinda
Gervais, i've used this one, they have good info, good luck http://www.ellisisland.org/default.asp?SID=2188&gclid=CMvG6MvIsrwCFU_KtAodLksAHQ cheers On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:05 PM, ggervais1...@centurylink.net < ggervais1...@centurylink.net> wrote: > Looking for some help to solve a mystery.On my great grandmother's > declaration of intention she states she came to the United states from St > Michael's Azores to New York under a different name on February 2, 1891 on > the vessel OLINDA. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of vessels > passenger list. Since she listed her birthdate a year later I am thinking > that the date she arrived maybe wrong also. She came under the name > Violanti Ferreira. > > Thanks > G.C. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA mix up
Joao, CCA http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ is based in Terceira, Viaoceanica is a Terceira Company. Your archive links were developed by a company that uses opensource solutions, I'm sure you can find them quite easily. This company's work was ordered by http://www.bparpd.azores.gov.pt/ and I believe that interface you say its powerful was discontinued, and upgraded to another platform. That costs money...etc..etc.. I will not continue because this is not what is in question, in my opinion. I'm not into into politics. I'm into genealogy. As Angela said and very well, its taking a long time, and this has been a "well spanked horse" in this group, people don't work for free, and what CCA is offering online is still in progress... I read somewhere in this group someone saying that started genealogy where there wasn't even Internet here, and said what I am trying to say, which is basically this: "Are you studding your family roots? Or are you trying to sell something?" Well, I'm studding my family roots, simply for the love of it! last 2 cents on this one! On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, João Ventura wrote: > Ricardo, > > No. What you should complain about is that the central government archives > have developed a FREE tool that provides pretty good access to these > archives (It's the one used in > http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/<http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1019364>). > But for some reason, the CCA decided to have Via Oceanica develop a > separate interface that has basically no search, and allows these kinds of > duplicates. I'm sure the Via Oceanica contract is not free. What the CCA > currently has is actually two systems running in parallel. One is extremely > powerful, and allows them to catalog their archives (which is what they're > using it for), and also to provide access to digital versions of the same > (which they don't). The other, is clearly designed to run the CCA 'content' > website and allows some browsing in the digital archive, via a pretty > simple interface. > > As to whether these things should be free or not.. That's another story > altogether. > > João Ventura > http://tombo.pt > > On Saturday, 1 February 2014 23:30:39 UTC+1, rchaves wrote: >> >> In my humble opinion, and after receiving a recently, and very polite >> reply, from a Massachusetts archive institute, saying that they have >> associated with one of the biggest online genealogy PAYED websites, saying >> I could go through them, payed, or FREE, locally, unfortunately I cant go >> there as often as I wanted, I live in the Azores since 1974 , I believe >> that CCA should actually put everything down and do the same!! >> >> Depois se calhar não haveriam tantas "mess" que tem estado a ser >> disponibilizadas de graça e que a maioria desse trabalho está a ser pago >> com dinheiro publico, de contribuintes Portugueses, como eu, e que ainda >> bem há pouco tempo, paguei por registos que ainda não estão publicados >> online, de Santa Maria, mas que paguei porque precisava deles! >> >> I have sent emails to CCA complaining about "messes" like those and they >> fixed them, thanking me for alerting them about them, and they didn't took >> too long to fixed them. Their email is available on CCA website. They can >> read and write English too! >> >> cheers >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM, João Ventura wrote: >> >>> Yes, I noticed that. In my page for S. Roque it's easy to see the bug: >>> http://tombo.pt/f/pdl18 >>> >>> It's not the only problem. There's two books which are inaccessible via >>> CCA, and two books which are show up twice in the listing. That interface >>> is a mess. I wish they'd just give up and replace it with this one: >>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1019364 >>> >>> João Ventura >>> http://tombo.pt >>> >>> On Friday, 31 January 2014 22:49:46 UTC+1, Azoreanno wrote: >>>> >>>> I notested that the 1740-46 baptisms for S. Roque do Rosto de Cão are >>>> mixed up with the Santo-Antonio-Alem-Capelas baptisms >>>> >>>> Marcio Borba >>>> Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com >>>> >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it wi
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA mix up
In my humble opinion, and after receiving a recently, and very polite reply, from a Massachusetts archive institute, saying that they have associated with one of the biggest online genealogy PAYED websites, saying I could go through them, payed, or FREE, locally, unfortunately I cant go there as often as I wanted, I live in the Azores since 1974 [?], I believe that CCA should actually put everything down and do the same!! Depois se calhar não haveriam tantas "mess" que tem estado a ser disponibilizadas de graça e que a maioria desse trabalho está a ser pago com dinheiro publico, de contribuintes Portugueses, como eu, e que ainda bem há pouco tempo, paguei por registos que ainda não estão publicados online, de Santa Maria, mas que paguei porque precisava deles! I have sent emails to CCA complaining about "messes" like those and they fixed them, thanking me for alerting them about them, and they didn't took too long to fixed them. Their email is available on CCA website. They can read and write English too! cheers On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM, João Ventura wrote: > Yes, I noticed that. In my page for S. Roque it's easy to see the bug: > http://tombo.pt/f/pdl18 > > It's not the only problem. There's two books which are inaccessible via > CCA, and two books which are show up twice in the listing. That interface > is a mess. I wish they'd just give up and replace it with this one: > http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1019364 > > João Ventura > http://tombo.pt > > On Friday, 31 January 2014 22:49:46 UTC+1, Azoreanno wrote: >> >> I notested that the 1740-46 baptisms for S. Roque do Rosto de Cão are >> mixed up with the Santo-Antonio-Alem-Capelas baptisms >> >> Marcio Borba >> Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. <<347.gif>>
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program
Something light, simple and free, worth giving a try! http://www.ahnenblatt.com/ Cheers On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:24 PM, ggervais1...@centurylink.net < ggervais1...@centurylink.net> wrote: > I was searching for genealogy programs as I bought Family Tree Maker but > don't care much for and thought about legacy and saw Master genealogist as > being a great program. Anyone have any thoughts? I am starting my genealogy > search again and hope to be able to put everything into some program before > I loose everything. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Question on occupation of padrinho
Maria, in general, parents would choose for their children Godparents, someone with a higher status, sometimes of their own family, other not. You will notice that was common the more you see baptism records. In the most cases, you will see only the Godparents signatures together with the vicars. Having said that, and together with your information, all points that he was educated. And yes, his handwriting is/was "gorgeous" I must say, comparing to many I have had nightmares to decipher!! Cheers On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Maria Lima wrote: > Thankyou Ricardo. I did wonder if that was his signature at the bottom > with the vicar because it was so well written. So I'm thinking he was > educated to the point where he could read and write well. Thanks. > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I also read ESCREVENTE, and for what I've read, he may have been some >> kind of typewriter (datilografo), in this case, as you mentioned, a >> Scribe, I don't think there were typewriter machines in 1879, in Azores! He >> could sign his name, besides the vicar, he is the only signature in the >> bottom of the record. >> >> Good Luck >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Maria Lima wrote: >> >>> For baptismal record of Maria on the right hand page (number 146) >>> >>> On the eight line from the bottom: I'm having a hard time deciphering >>> the occupation of the godfather- it says >>> >>> Foi padrinho Domingos Perreira Machado, single "escreventes" (?) >>> scribe(?) >>> Was he a writer? I could not figure the rest of the sentence. >>> >>> I'm very curious about this godfather named Domingo's. if this >>> Domingo's was able to read and write; If he was educated, it could be a >>> key in the education received by my husbands grandfather, Domingo's Moniz >>> Machado. I believe someone must have recognized that he had potential and >>> as the story goes, he was raised by the Jesuits in Boston. Domingo's >>> Moniz is the older brother of Maria, the one on the baptismal record. >>> >>> Any help would be wonderful and I appreciate all the help I've already >>> received. >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1875-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1875-1879_item1/P132.html >>> >>> Maria Elena >>> >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ricardo Chaves >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegr
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on occupation of padrinho
Hello, I also read ESCREVENTE, and for what I've read, he may have been some kind of typewriter (datilografo), in this case, as you mentioned, a Scribe, I don't think there were typewriter machines in 1879, in Azores! He could sign his name, besides the vicar, he is the only signature in the bottom of the record. Good Luck On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Maria Lima wrote: > For baptismal record of Maria on the right hand page (number 146) > > On the eight line from the bottom: I'm having a hard time deciphering the > occupation of the godfather- it says > > Foi padrinho Domingos Perreira Machado, single "escreventes" (?) scribe(?) > Was he a writer? I could not figure the rest of the sentence. > > I'm very curious about this godfather named Domingo's. if this Domingo's > was able to read and write; If he was educated, it could be a key in the > education received by my husbands grandfather, Domingo's Moniz Machado. I > believe someone must have recognized that he had potential and as the story > goes, he was raised by the Jesuits in Boston. Domingo's Moniz is the > older brother of Maria, the one on the baptismal record. > > Any help would be wonderful and I appreciate all the help I've already > received. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1875-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1875-1879_item1/P132.html > > Maria Elena > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] USA Online Records
Thank you all, I will get back to this thread later. Manuel da Rocha married Maria da Luz in Fall River in 1910. Born in 1884. Some Birth records have what we call here "Averbamentos" , a kind of side notes. Usually in the left edge of the page. This one had this info. Thank you all! cheers On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Pam Santos wrote: > Yes give us brides name. Is this him? > > Manuel Rocha <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4DF-ZX7> > > Massachusetts, Marriages, 1841-1915 > birth:1885, , Azores Islands marriage:24 Oct 1910;1910 Oct 24Fall River, > , Massachusetts father:Manuel Rochamother:Maria Jesus spouse:Maria Da L. > Adrianother: Jacintho Da L. Adrian, Maria B Conceicao > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:48 PM, rcapodc wrote: > >> Ricardo, >> >> As Cheri says try Family Search then Ancestry. If you have a Family >> History Center near you, you can go there and do your Ancestry.com lookups >> for free! >> >> Rosemarie >> >> *From:* Ricardo Chaves >> *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 6:08 PM >> *To:* Azores Geneolagy >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] USA Online Records >> >> Hi All, >> >> in your opinion, what is the most affordable online record archive in the >> United States? I need to make several Marriage and Death inquiries and just >> checked www.archives.com that looks nice and clean and has a one year >> subscription for 30$. >> >> I am looking for a Manuel Rocha that according to his birth record was >> married in Fall River in 1910. Looks like he his a brother of my G G >> Grandfather. >> >> What are your suggestions? I know there are probably hundreds of sites >> offering these services, like ancestry.com, family-search and so on, I >> wonder if there are some free governmental services, similar to CCA? >> >> cheers >> >> -- >> Ricardo Chaves >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] USA Online Records
Hi All, in your opinion, what is the most affordable online record archive in the United States? I need to make several Marriage and Death inquiries and just checked www.archives.com that looks nice and clean and has a one year subscription for 30$. I am looking for a Manuel Rocha that according to his birth record was married in Fall River in 1910. Looks like he his a brother of my G G Grandfather. What are your suggestions? I know there are probably hundreds of sites offering these services, like ancestry.com, family-search and so on, I wonder if there are some free governmental services, similar to CCA? cheers -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of "morgano"
Morganho is a "nickname" for a Small Rat, I wonder if it is MORGADO? A very common name in Azores. Morgano could be a missspelled Morgado cheers On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Repost for "RBH" rbhelm4 at att.net: > > Does anyone know what “Morgano” means in Portuguese? > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ROCHA - Santo Antonio Alem Capelas
Thank you all for input, I'm aware of the phonetic sound, I live here and deal with it everyday, [?] also muito obrigado Joao S. Lopes, what you say makes a lot of sense, I have found in the same book, same year, different vicars spelling same words in two or more different ways. As Doug said I believe they didn't all follow same rules! I have found more and more, as I go back in time, archaic words. Sometimes the problem is not the way they write but their calligraphy... I am getting there besides the difficulties, feels good having a intense paleography course reading back, year after year, and being able to identify more easily now what they are saying. I would not be surprised if I find my name with Xaves instead of Chaves. Words like "Foy" meaning "Foi" = Was, are more often found prior 1850 as I am experiencing now, Gayle. I actually saw a Maxado as well, looking for my line of Rocha. Cheri, I can perfectly imagine what these ascendants have gone trough, believe me. I have known people still alive who told me stories about how hard it was, people who remember that their humble poor houses had a floor of "Terra Batida" and much more! Thank you all On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Gayle Machado wrote: > I've even seen Medeiros spelled with a "y" instead of the "i." > > On Jan 9, 2014, at 5:31 PM, "Joao S. Lopes" wrote: > > In older registers, you'll find many "wrong" words, Roxa instead of Rocha, > Maxado instead of Machado, sinco instead of cinco (5). They're not older > spellings, are simply wrong ways to write, tolerated in those times. > Examples of older spellings are Mideiros for Medeiros, Joam for Joao, > Cibrao for Cipriano, Bracelos/Baracelos for Barcelos; > Curuvelo/Cruvelo/Coruvelo for Curvelo. > JS Lopes > > > Em Quinta-feira, 9 de Janeiro de 2014 21:16, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva < > eliseuman...@gmail.com> escreveu: > Roxa = old portuguese spelling of Rocha! > > *De:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] > *Em nome de *Ricardo Chaves > *Enviada:* quinta-feira, 9 de Janeiro de 2014 18:02 > *Para:* Azores Geneolagy > *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] ROCHA - Santo Antonio Alem Capelas > > Dear researchers, happy new year! > > > Doug Holmes, have you ever found any of your ROCHA spelled ROXA? > > I am having some doubts about my lineage. There are a few Rocha in Santo > Antonio, several different lines but with same names. It happens that in > 1879 my GG Grandfather was known as Manuel da Rocha, but 16 years earlier, > it is known as Manuel da Roxa! > > Also in one year he is known as a farmer (camponez) and 16 years later a > fisherman (pescador or maritimo). If you, Doug, or anyone out there > researching these Rocha, please let me know if its normal Rocha being > spelled Roxa in earlier 1800's. > > > Cheers to all > -- > Ricardo Chaves > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > >-- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "
[AZORES-Genealogy] ROCHA - Santo Antonio Alem Capelas
Dear researchers, happy new year! Doug Holmes, have you ever found any of your ROCHA spelled ROXA? I am having some doubts about my lineage. There are a few Rocha in Santo Antonio, several different lines but with same names. It happens that in 1879 my GG Grandfather was known as Manuel da Rocha, but 16 years earlier, it is known as Manuel da Roxa! Also in one year he is known as a farmer (camponez) and 16 years later a fisherman (pescador or maritimo). If you, Doug, or anyone out there researching these Rocha, please let me know if its normal Rocha being spelled Roxa in earlier 1800's. Cheers to all -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara cemetery in Povoacao
Hi Joe , i sent the pics to you directly because I don't know if the group posts attachments. Hope you got them. You are welcome, its a pleasure to be able to help. Good luck and season greetings. Ricardo On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Joe Matias wrote: > thanx Ricardo,I appreciate the help! > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > >> Hi Joe, >> >> I think you should start by looking into: >> >> Sao Miguel -- Povoacao -- Matriz da Mae de Deus (filter sequence at CCA) >> >> -Santa Barbara cemetery is part of the Chapel (Ermida) of Santa Barbara, >> at Morro Alto. >> >> -Morro Alto is part of Freguesia da Povoacao, elevated to Vila in 1839. >> >> -Povoacao is part of the Council of Povoacao and the church (Padroeira) >> is Nossa Senhora da Mae de Deus. >> >> Inside the domain of the Freguesia of Povoacao (Church Mae de Deus) you >> will find also these places: Morro, Lomba do Cavaleiro, Carro, Botão, Pomar >> e Pós. >> >> Pay special attention if in the records the vicar mentions Lomba do >> Carro, because that's where the cemetery is, and its called Cemetery of >> Santa Barbara. >> >> Good luck. Cheers >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara cemetery in Povoacao
Hi Joe, I think you should start by looking into: Sao Miguel -- Povoacao -- Matriz da Mae de Deus (filter sequence at CCA) -Santa Barbara cemetery is part of the Chapel (Ermida) of Santa Barbara, at Morro Alto. -Morro Alto is part of Freguesia da Povoacao, elevated to Vila in 1839. -Povoacao is part of the Council of Povoacao and the church (Padroeira) is Nossa Senhora da Mae de Deus. Inside the domain of the Freguesia of Povoacao (Church Mae de Deus) you will find also these places: Morro, Lomba do Cavaleiro, Carro, Botão, Pomar e Pós. Pay special attention if in the records the vicar mentions Lomba do Carro, because that's where the cemetery is, and its called Cemetery of Santa Barbara. Good luck. Cheers -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Matriz and the council
Doug, I agree with you and Cheri that we end up deviating from the original subject of most threads, so I will reply this one directly. And please apologies here are absurd, we all want to learn and I seek the "elders" here because of their experience. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, wrote: > Hi Ricardo, > > You write in English so well that I thought you live in the USA. > So me telling you the meaning of matriz is quite presumptuous. Sorry about > that. > > I'm also glad to hear you like my Ancestral Photos section. I have to > upload several others, but at least I have started it off. The great thing > about a website is that it just builds and builds up over time. There are > years I don't do anything, but what I already did still remains available. > > About the effort and resources, I'm glad you pointed that out. Like I > said, once it's done it remains there with little additional effort, but > can you imagine how much time and effort the CCA is investing in this whole > thing? It's enormous and I am so appreciative. > > Are your Chaves from Santa Maria? For some reason, that's the first place > I think of when I hear that surname. > > Atencioamente, > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Matriz and the council > From: Ricardo Chaves > Date: Wed, December 18, 2013 9:47 am > To: Azores Geneolagy > > Hello Doug, > > I have written that exactly, but probably with different words in one of > the latest posts about this issue. Maybe the post was to long and some got > scared to read it [?] . I mentioned we have spoke before through your > website, some years ago when I was starting my roots' investigation. I live > here Doug, in Azores and I believe for some non residents this hole system > may be quite confusing. > > As CCA is organizing the filters at their website using the civil and > actual system, there are a few Civil Parishes, exactly as Joao Ventura > already explained, they must use their official names, and in this case > there are a few called Matriz (adopted from the leading church, where it > stands today), in Azores. Because of that and because CCA had a few other > places (Catholic Parish Names) mentioning Matriz, as what they were in the > past, as you just said, some people will easily be confused, specially > those who know very little about the geographic and territorial > organization of Azores, today AND in the past. If I see Matriz mentioned, > in a Freguesia that has another name, Example, Mae de Deus, Povoacao, it > makes no difference to me, but yes its confusing to who doesn't know why or > where. > > From what I have learned now, as you say, its much easier to know what > Island our ancestors came from, then the council. I have checked several > websites, with archives and documents related to genealogy and not only, > where the the system is indexed, allowing researchers to search for NAMES > or PLACES, etc. The Government of Madeira seams to be doing a good effort > going into this direction, you can check it here > http://www.arquivo-madeira.org/pesquisa/baptismo/ . One thing a few > already have mentioned is that the majority of the US research websites, > like acenstry.com and many more, are PAYED services. CCA is not, but > these systems, whether good or not so good, have costs and are being given > free access for free. > > I am connected to computer/networking business, and I have a good idea of > how much time, money and resources, these online archives may take to ho > ever is responsible for it, and because I have spent many hours in Ponta > Delgada, reading record books, I am quite happy, and I can imagine you all > who do not live here, with what they have now. About consistency, yes I > agree with Cheri and others, the filters should follow only one criteria > and I think they are fixing that. > > PS: Doug, I love the old pictures in your website, I'm a big fan of such > priceless, also, records. Images of our ancestors, for those who are lucky > to have them, are a "Cherry of top of the cake" for all genealogists! > > Cheers to all, > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:01 AM, wrote: > >> Hi Ricardo, >> >> You wrote under the subject CCA, but I am answering about the definition >> of matriz, so am answering under this subject. >> >> In case it was not previously explained, "matriz" is referring to the >> main church, aka mother church, for what in Portugal they call a "concelho" >> which could be translated to our co
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Matriz and the council
Hello Doug, I have written that exactly, but probably with different words in one of the latest posts about this issue. Maybe the post was to long and some got scared to read it [?] . I mentioned we have spoke before through your website, some years ago when I was starting my roots' investigation. I live here Doug, in Azores and I believe for some non residents this hole system may be quite confusing. As CCA is organizing the filters at their website using the civil and actual system, there are a few Civil Parishes, exactly as Joao Ventura already explained, they must use their official names, and in this case there are a few called Matriz (adopted from the leading church, where it stands today), in Azores. Because of that and because CCA had a few other places (Catholic Parish Names) mentioning Matriz, as what they were in the past, as you just said, some people will easily be confused, specially those who know very little about the geographic and territorial organization of Azores, today AND in the past. If I see Matriz mentioned, in a Freguesia that has another name, Example, Mae de Deus, Povoacao, it makes no difference to me, but yes its confusing to who doesn't know why or where. >From what I have learned now, as you say, its much easier to know what Island our ancestors came from, then the council. I have checked several websites, with archives and documents related to genealogy and not only, where the the system is indexed, allowing researchers to search for NAMES or PLACES, etc. The Government of Madeira seams to be doing a good effort going into this direction, you can check it here http://www.arquivo-madeira.org/pesquisa/baptismo/ . One thing a few already have mentioned is that the majority of the US research websites, like acenstry.com and many more, are PAYED services. CCA is not, but these systems, whether good or not so good, have costs and are being given free access for free. I am connected to computer/networking business, and I have a good idea of how much time, money and resources, these online archives may take to ho ever is responsible for it, and because I have spent many hours in Ponta Delgada, reading record books, I am quite happy, and I can imagine you all who do not live here, with what they have now. About consistency, yes I agree with Cheri and others, the filters should follow only one criteria and I think they are fixing that. PS: Doug, I love the old pictures in your website, I'm a big fan of such priceless, also, records. Images of our ancestors, for those who are lucky to have them, are a "Cherry of top of the cake" for all genealogists! Cheers to all, On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:01 AM, wrote: > Hi Ricardo, > > You wrote under the subject CCA, but I am answering about the definition > of matriz, so am answering under this subject. > > In case it was not previously explained, "matriz" is referring to the main > church, aka mother church, for what in Portugal they call a "concelho" > which could be translated to our county system here. > > For example, the matriz church for the "concelho" of Sao Roque, island of > Pico is the church in Sao Roque. There are four other churches in that > concelho, but the church in Sao Roque is the mother church of the group. > > The matriz church for the concelho of Lajes, island of Pico is called > Santissima Trindade. Again, there are four other churches in that concelho. > > Every concelho has a matriz. And there is only one matriz for one > concelho, with the exception of the mistake made for Sao Sebastiao, > Terceira - read Guill's explanation in his history book, vol. 5. > > I don't know if they do that type of grouping in the USA Catholic > churches, but it makes no difference. That's how they do it in Portugal, so > that's all you need to know to do research and find your way through the > records as a genealogist. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (va
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA
Cheri I know what you mean. Still, I have read some bits, I'm still learning, that since the beginning of times, in the Azores, or should I say, Portugal, many names and localities changed over the years. I don't think it would be a good Idea that CCA would create different databases for each of them. Doug is right, but I can understand someone that is not native Portuguese and does not have your experience, Cheri or Doug, will struggle to figure where the churches are or were! Matriz for me has two very distict meanings, or it is a Freguesia or it is a "headquarters" Church in the past, but all Churches have their Saints' name. Doug, I beleive we have spoke before, I am back in "business" since this last summer, after a long time pause. I made small steps on Rocha and I am waiting for CCA to fix some Santo Antonio PDL year periods to keep on going. very late here "signing" off, cheers to all On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Ricardo C, > > But the CCA isn't posting current records, they are posting historical > records. > > I just wish it was more consistent. But that's probably the math teacher > in me. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA
Cheri, I believe in Faial, Concelho da Horta, Matriz will stay in the filters simply because it is a Civil Freguesia. Ribeira Grande well. I think Joao Ventura mentioned this, they are following the actual territory civil divisions. Example: Ilha de Sao Miguel -- Concelho de Ponta Delgada - Freguesia de Santo Antonio, which in my opinion should be only Santo Antonio, because I think the "Alem Capelas" is no longer considered. Ilha de Sao Miguel -- Concelho da Ribeira Grande - Freguesia de Matriz (I believe this will be the correct option) I see your point and also agree with you that other than the Freguesias called Matriz, they should remove the word Matriz if its not a Civil Freguesia. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > I don't know if someone from the CCA is on the list as they have never > told me if they are. It would not surprise me if someone from the CCA is a > listmember. > > So on Sao Miguel, 4 councils are listed. > Lagoa: Matriz de Santa Cruz > Nordeste: The word Matriz does not appear > Ponta Delgada: The word Matriz does not appear > Povoacao: Matriz da Mae de Deus > > It's still not consistent. > > Other islands: > Faial: Matriz da Horta > > Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, and Flores have no "Matriz" listed. > > So, if they take out the word "Matriz" from Faial and from the councils of > Lagoa and Povoacao on Sao Miguel, they will be consistent. > > Thank you CCA! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matriz and the council
Hello friends, I am sorry I cant find for now anything in English but this is the Oficial website of the Freguesia da Matriz in Ribeira Grande Council. I think there may be more in Azores. http://www.jfmatriz.com/ On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > I've never heard anyone say "I'm from the Matriz" either. I concur on > that. > > In my Ribeira Quente research, I found all my ancestors from Ponta Garca. > Are you sure you meant Sao Miguel Arcanjo? Maybe it's in a different time > period. I know Ribeira das Tainhas was under Sao Miguel Arcanjo. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site
I live in Sao Miguel, I have done research *inloco* several times. I have had, in my hands, perfectly well preserved books, and also, some in very delicate state of deterioration. I have sent several emails to CCA administration and for what I understand, the conditions of these books ALSO contribute to what ever policy of priority they are following, to the online publication. My most recent email response from the CCA administration, in other words, last week, was that they are just finishing Ponta Delgada (and I am anxiously waiting for Sao Vicente) and will do their best to make Santa Maria available as soon as possible, Island where I am from, and where my direct line (Chaves) is from. I have done some extensive research in CCA, in these books already. "...ter reparado, estamos em vias de conclusão do concelho de Ponta Delgada, um dos maiores dos Açores, *com milhares de imagens*. Vamos fazer os possíveis para que a disponibilidade dos registos de Santa Maria decorrem com a maior brevidade possível." (I underlined and balded "thousands of images") Santa Maria has FIVE parishes, Vila do Porto, Santa Barbara, Santo Espirito, Sao Pedro and the youngest parish is Almagreira, and the periods within the records are, 1599 to 1906, 1640 to 1906, 1671 to 1906, 1670 to 1906 and 1903 to 1906, respectively. Some parishes are or were mentioned as "Matriz" (Matrix), and I believe this is because from all churches in one "Concelho", and I would call it in English, a kind of County, this was the most important, or the "Leading" church. As time went by, some of these places ended up adopting this name as the name of the Parish itself. Example, Ribeira Grande, where I live, has today a Freguesia named Matriz, and the Church is Nossa Senhora da Estrela. Santa Maria Island also has a "Matrix Church" Padroeira Nossa Senhora da Assuncao, ans also known as Matriz, and the parish, today Freguesia, is Vila do Porto. I think I am explaining correctly. All this to say that researchers here, specially the non native or with very few knowledge of how these "Counties" were organized, should keep in mind that its better to have a good understanding of the Azores Geography and then think about the names of the churches, because you will find "Padroeiras" with the same name in different places inside the same Island, or not, and also in different islands. Governmental territory organization is or are, young systems, before church had a lot of power over it. Many younger "Freguesias" today, were nothing but a LOGAR, today written, LUGAR, a word that some of you may have read hundreds if not thousands of times. These Lugares (places) may very well be today a Freguesia, and in some cases, you will NOT find any records prior 1911 online because they are in the village next to it, which governed it, and the record books will tell you that. Example, check Achada - Nordeste to look for places of Santana - Nordeste, like Feteira, also know as Feteira Grande and Feteira Pequena, where today is a Freguesia and in the books, Santana is a parish, or Church's Padroeira. So on, and so on. I have seen AzoresGenWeb some time ago, and has good info, and I would suggest also that everyone should start by knowing which Island (we are nine) is your ancestor coming from, then what Concelho (I would call it County) then Freguesia and I would call it Parish, then think about the Padroeiras, those are the Saints' names the people (povo) would choose, for many endless reason, to "baptize" the church. And as I wrote before, some ended being chosen to be the today's name of the Freguesia. Before you may start correcting me [?] remember please I am not an English native writer or speaker, I was born and always lived in Azores, so my apologies for any confused sentence, but please feel free to do so, I am here to learn. Regarding CCA, I don't have a clue how they are doing it, but I can perfectly imagine its a very dedicated job to do. And yes I am also impatient about Santa Maria, and for all that I have read, I better start planing new visits to CCA. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. <<32B.gif>>
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage record help
Fred, Leonardo is from Fenais, my guess is Fenais da Luz, its the next Parish, after Sao Vicente, thowards Rabo de Peixe. Maria is from Capelas, as the priest says "Natural desta Parochial..." -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tavares / Resendes (Santo Antonio Alem Capelas)
Hi Sam, thank you, I lost a few posts, to be honest, following posts in groups is not my strongest. I will read and check more about the DNA tests, I've seen a few posts of Cheri about it. You will be surprised (like I was already) when you suddenly find out that your ancestors "jumped" to another Island three or four generations back! Having both of us several family names in common I wouldn't be surprised if we are connected. a good journey as well to you Ricardo -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help
Fred, SISMUNDO could also be LIZANDRO, Lizandro is know in the Azores, both as first and last name. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > H Fred, > > looks like Antonio d'Oliveira de CARVALHO and Antonia do SACRAMENTO, and > SISMUNDO Pereira de Melo > > cheers > > > > > -- > Ricardo Chaves > > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unknown Photos - Anyone Recognize the Family or Individuals?
David, it looks like: Mrs. Silvina Silva, in the middle, and in the bottom right, Francisca. SILVA is a well known surname! Cheers -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tavares / Resendes (Santo Antonio Alem Capelas)
John, Alda, before 1900, I am almost sure everyone was born at home! I was born in Santa Maria in 74 but my youngest sister, in 1988, was born in Sao Miguel and registered in Santa Maria. Yes there was a time where children were being registered in Sao Miguel, when they should be registered in Santa Maria. Old policies! Now only Ponta Delgada's Hospital, has conditions, so they say, to assist birth, so everyone comes from Santa Maria, a few weeks earlier for that, a few days later they go back, as far as I know they are all being registered in Santa Maria. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tavares / Resendes (Santo Antonio Alem Capelas)
Hi Sam, his name was Jose Tavares Resendes, and this great grandaunt from whose descendants, I am trying to find, was his sister. All I could find out for now is that she married a man from Santa Maria but she was born in Santo Antonio Alem Capelas. Her brother, my Great Grandfather, was born in Santo Antonio Alem Capelas in 1900 and she was older than him. All I know is that she was called Maria and that she married this man from Santa Maria and could have taken his surname, Furtado. I don't have a clue yet if there was any Rego in this line of ascendants. I don't know much about DNA tests, I don't live in the US, I live in Azores and I don't think we can do that here, yet. Santo Antonio Alem Capelas is in the Island of Sao Miguel, on the North Coast. Santa Maria is the Island next to it, these two are the western group, in the archipelago, of 9 islands. As far back as I go, searching for my ancestors, I have notice that 100, 200 and more years back, there were quite some movement between the Islands. I've read several records where the baptized child from Sao Miguel, had ancestors of 2nd or 3rd generation, originally from Santa Maria, AND vice versa! If you are absolutely sure that your Grandmother is born in Santa Maria, then its not the same person, but if not, Maria Filomena Tavares could very possibly be her IF she is born before 1900. I can also tell you that Resendes is a quite common name in Santa Maria Island, and that there is a few lineages of them in Santo Espirito Parish, and we could have a connection somewhere via Santa Maria Island, where my direct lineage is from. Best wishes -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to Make a Good Genealogy Post
Good job Cheri, will follow this as much as possible. Cheers -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: introduction myself to the group
Thank you E as I am not an English native writer/reader, some terms need explanation, thank you for that. chhers On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Ricardo C, > > An extended family member is a collateral relative. Not a direct ancestor. > > Direct: Parents, grandparents, great grands (doesn't matter how many > greats). > > Extended or collateral: Aunts & uncles, cousins, great aunts & great > uncles. Basically, the siblings of your direct ancestors. > > Here's the definition from Dick Eastman's Encyclopedia of Genealogy: > http://goo.gl/mDefe7 > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: introduction myself to the group
E, what do you mean by Extended family? I tracked my Chaves line, at least back to 1840's, its a prediction based on the names and generations I already have, and still Chaves. That doesn't mean it couldn't end in Cabral one day! After all, Captain Goncalo Velho Cabral was one of the first in the island! Cheers On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:00 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: > Ricardo, > > I have a feeling you are related to an extended family as they have the > same names you list and same parish but I only have back to her father born > 1941 from Nossa Senhora da Purificacao, Santa Cristo, Santa Maria, > Azores. His wife is Chaves and he goes by that surname but I believe he > was born a Cabral. > > "E" > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM, rchaves wrote: > >> Hello researchers, >> >> its been a while and now I would like to UPDATE some information related >> to my first post here. Other priorities came over my family roots research. >> Anyway, there were some developments since last time here and to the ones >> that repplied saying we could be connected, I feel its important to update. >> Although very slowly, I have been working on my lineage into several >> directions and found out that for the RESENDES I lost over a year looking >> in the wrong place. (I now know what John meant, the hard way) If anyone in >> the list may be connected to me here is where I am currently, and up to >> 1870 for most of them. I have reached 1790 into a possible connection for >> ROCHA but "ohh boy" its another kind of reading!!! Still needs confirmation! >> >> Paternal line >> CHAVES - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria (straight line) >> ROCHA - Santo Antonio Alem Capelas - Sao Miguel >> RESENDES - Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, but I may end on Santa Maria, >> prior 1850 more or less, as I found these RESENDES came from there. >> >> Maternal line >> DA PONTE - Mae de Deus, Povoacao (straigth line) >> FREITAS - Feteiras de Sao Pedro, Santa Maria >> >> Both lines >> CABRAL - Santo Espirito and Sao Pedro, Santa Maria, I haven't spent much >> time is this name yet, it is connected to me to both Paternal and Maternal >> side, where from Paternal is where I have more information, which leads me >> to a place called LOURAL in Santo Espirito, Santa Maria. >> >> Still with a lot of work to do and to learn, I now have tracked these >> lines and know where to go and how, much better then when I introduced >> myself to the group. Good luck to all. >> >> Ricardo >> >> On Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:16:46 AM UTC, rchaves wrote: >>> >>> Hello researchers, >>> >>> I would like to say hi to all here, my name is Ricardo Chaves, I still >>> have a lot of work to do but already done some research with baptism >>> books and after many hours of work, I got my first results. I am at my >>> 6th generation on my father's side. Chaves. I was born in Santa Maria, >>> I live in Sao Miguel for 17 years. I don't do Genealogy as a full time >>> job, I do it at free time. My main goal is to write a book for my >>> family. I try to research all names I can, including my wife's side >>> too. I also love to work with old pictures. >>> >>> I sincerely hope to find some connections here, although I believe no >>> one in my most direct family is doing this, as far as I know, I am the >>> only one that had made some "longer" steps. >>> >>> These are the names on my father side: Chaves and Carvalho from Santo >>> Espirito-Santa Maria, Tavares and Resendes from Ribeira Grande-Sao >>> Miguel), Rocha from Santo Antonio - São Miguel), and more. >>> >>> These are the names on me mother side: Ponte from Lomba do Botao - >>> Povoacao - Sao Miguel, Freitas from Santa Barbara - Santa Maria, >>> Cabral from Sao Pedro - Santa Maria, and much more. >>> >>> I have been doing it for over 4 years but very slowly, this to say >>> that I am not an expert but have learned a lot by reading and talking >>> with people. I hope I can be of any help here and hope mostly to learn >>> and find roots. >>> >>> Thank you all for reading, more here www.rchaves.com/blog >>> >>> Ricardo Chaves >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group&q
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA - Santo Antonio (Alem Capelas)
Thank you Richard and Pam , I thought it could be a problem with my browser. On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *I just checked and got the Server Error Message. I checked the marriages > and were able to view them. The could be doing some maintenance on the > Baptisms.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *rchaves > *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:52 AM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA - Santo Antonio (Alem Capelas) > > > > Fellow researchers, > > > > could anyone confirm if theses Santo Antonio baptism periods from 1794 to > 1860 are unavailable (SERVER ERROR 404) or its just me! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Ricardo > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1856-1860/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1856-1860_item1/index.html > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1818-1831/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1818-1831_item1/index.html > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1794-1818/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1794-1818_item1/index.html > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please
Hi Sam, talking with old folks from my wife's village, Santana - Nordeste, I asked around and also got this other meaning for Ceareiro (Seareiro), a man that produces wheat only. In other words, this man would have a few lands, owned or rented and would only produce wheat. Santa Maria used to be called the "Celeiro de Portugal" Portugal's Silo, as the climate there was and still is the driest of all Islands, in the old times, wheat was produced all over the Island in enormous quantities and exported to several countries. A common sentence around here was "Seara de Trigo" means a wheat field. regards Ricardo Chaves On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Sam Koester wrote: > Ricardo; Thanks much for this information. I really do like to know as > accurately as possible what the records are “saying” and feel it is > important to translate the entire record because we never know if there is > some surprising bit of information that we might not know if we don’t > translate the entire record. There is really so little we can know about > our ancestors so the “small things” really make a difference to me. > > ** ** > > I will check out the program you have mentioned below as well. > > ** ** > > Again, thank you, Sam in CA > > ** ** > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Ricardo Chaves > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:01 PM > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please > > ** ** > > Sam, > > I've done a small research, Ceareiro (most Priests write it down with a C > but you will also find with an S) or Seareiro, are man that use to be > responsible for keeping crops safe (a kind of Silo guards). Look for the > words Silo, Celeiro (Barn), Ceara, Cereais (Cereals) or Seara, Milho (Corn), > Trigo (Wheat), so on. > > Campones (in current written portuguese, theres a "hat" on the e - ê its PT > character I don't know if your PC can read it) So this Campones, is a man > that may own small quantities of land or just rent them and produces small > quantities of agriculture products, potatoes, beans, etc. > > Lavrador is in general a man that owns cattle or takes care of cattle, not > all Islands had conditions to produce milk, in fact, even today, just a few > have. So some would just produce meat, all in small quantities, usually of > local use or small sale. > > I think that in US the word FARMER is used to all activities, here there > were a few, according to each activity, still is. > > I use this free software for a few years now as a quick image editor > http://photofiltre.free.fr/ I'm a Photoshop and many more design software > user, for some time, I work with design, image, photography, etc, so I can > affirm that this little program, besides being free and small, is quite > simple and at the same time powerful. Look for Downloads, its available in > several languages. > > Cheers > > > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Sam Koester wrote:** > ** > > Cheri, Thanks for the quick response. I will try working with the program > a bit more. J Sam in CA > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Cheri Mello > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:59 PM > > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please > > > > Sam, > > > > The file was a little small. I aim to save them at 250-300Kb. I was able > to enlarge it, but it was a little pixelated. It was sort of dark in spots, > though. It seems like the program is doing the trick. Give yourself more > time to learn it. > > Lavrador, campaneo, etc are farmers or day workers. I think that the women > of the house being "in your face" is pretty funny! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."* > *** > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Diges
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: reply to where, advices?
Hi Cheri and Steve, that was the main issue, some may be responding some of the threads directly to me (in this case) because of a privacy question. I will just keep looking at the sender and reply to according to that! happy weekend Ricardo Chaves On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Steve Peters wrote: > On Aug 3, 9:43 am, Cheri Mello wrote: > > > Yes, hitting "Reply" in your email sends your response back > > to the group! So all 870 people see it. If you hit your "Reply to All" > > your message goes to the list and to the person. So the person gets > > the message twice: Once through the list and once straight from you. > > Just hit the Reply button for now. If someone has taken it off list (for > > whatever reason), then you'll be emailing off list. If it's going to the > > group, then it will go to the group. > > Another way of dealing with this (if you get the digest version) is to > click on the topic heading. It will open a new window with only that > thread, and at the bottom you'll have the options of Reply, Reply to > Author, or Forward. At least, this is the case using Gmail. > > Also, a friendly reminder: when you respond to a post, please remember > to trim off all the other posts in the thread that are not the one you > are responding to. Just select the other parts and hit Delete. > Otherwise, we all have to scroll through all of those repeat copies of > previous messages that have already been posted in order to get to the > next post. > > Best, > Steve Peters, Seattle > researching Avellar/Avelar from Flores and/or Pico, Freitas from Pico, > Frates/Fraetis/Freitas from San Luis Obispo/Avila/Arroyo Grande, CA > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > -- Ricardo Chaves www.rchaves.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please
Sam, I've done a small research, Ceareiro (most Priests write it down with a C but you will also find with an S) or Seareiro, are man that use to be responsible for keeping crops safe (a kind of Silo guards). Look for the words Silo, Celeiro (Barn), Ceara, Cereais (Cereals) or Seara, Milho (Corn), Trigo (Wheat), so on. Campones (in current written portuguese, theres a "hat" on the e - ê its PT character I don't know if your PC can read it) So this Campones, is a man that may own small quantities of land or just rent them and produces small quantities of agriculture products, potatoes, beans, etc. Lavrador is in general a man that owns cattle or takes care of cattle, not all Islands had conditions to produce milk, in fact, even today, just a few have. So some would just produce meat, all in small quantities, usually of local use or small sale. I think that in US the word FARMER is used to all activities, here there were a few, according to each activity, still is. I use this free software for a few years now as a quick image editor http://photofiltre.free.fr/ I'm a Photoshop and many more design software user, for some time, I work with design, image, photography, etc, so I can affirm that this little program, besides being free and small, is quite simple and at the same time powerful. Look for Downloads, its available in several languages. Cheers On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Sam Koester wrote: > Cheri, Thanks for the quick response. I will try working with the program > a bit more. J Sam in CA > > ** ** > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Cheri Mello > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:59 PM > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please > > ** ** > > Sam, > > > The file was a little small. I aim to save them at 250-300Kb. I was able > to enlarge it, but it was a little pixelated. It was sort of dark in spots, > though. It seems like the program is doing the trick. Give yourself more > time to learn it. > > Lavrador, campaneo, etc are farmers or day workers. I think that the women > of the house being "in your face" is pretty funny! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."* > *** > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > -- Ricardo Chaves www.rchaves.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] introduction myself to the group
Hi E (E for what?) Thank you again for the information, yes its a nice book, I have it, There are a few nice stories in it. Actually, I know quite a few people from the book, but until now, all the research i managed to make, tells me these Chaves aren't ours. Cheers On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:46 AM, "E" Sharp wrote: > Hi Ricardo, > > I have done some research on the Chaves family from Santa Maria as someone > in my family married into this family. There is a book I was able to > purchase quite a few years ago and it came from Santa Maria (a friend got it > for me) and it is called "Um Ramo Dos Chaves" by Dr. Pe. Joao Chaves de > Bairos. He is/was a priest from Santo Espirto, Santa Maria who wrote a > genealogy book about the Chaves family. I don't have the book anymore it > as I gave it to this Chaves family. > > "E" > > > -- Ricardo Chaves www.rchaves.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Traveling to Sao Miguel and looking for family history
Hi Charles, after reading a little better, looks like you were planning to come here just for the research. Dano is quite right, if you are coming here with the single purpose of researching, than its very important that you bring as much information you can, because you will save and need time. Also it seams you don't know which Island your relatives are from? Cabral is a common name in Santa Maria, but also in Sao Miguel. I actually have this name in my mother's lineage, its in my research plans too. Cheers On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 6:23 AM, charles cabral < ccab...@signatureprinters.com> wrote: > Can anyone suggest how I may find my family history on the island? My > parents, aunts and uncles have passed on and am left to my own devices > to > find this information. > I have my grandparents name but that is all I have. > What would be my best course to take? > > Thank You > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." -- Ricardo Chaves www.rchaves.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please
Sam, the files are too small, did you get those, that size, or are you shrinking them before you send ? At least double the resolution would make them readable. 1600 pixels of height would do! Cheers On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Sam Koester wrote: > Hello again everyone. I am once more relying on the generosity of others > to help me translate this document which is the marriage of my paternal > great grandparents. I “think” most of what I’ve written is correct but; > would love for someone to check my work, make corrections and fill in the > question marks if possible. Thank you very much in advance, Sam in CA ** > ** > > p.s. second page to follow in separate email. > > No. 1: Jose Soares Coelho de Figueiredo and Jacintha Umbelina de Jesus*** > * > > On the 7th day of the month of January of the year 1874 in this Parochial > Parish of Santa Barbara, council of Villa do Porto, Island of Santa Maria, > Diocese of Angra, in my presence received the betrothed Jose Soares Coelho > de Figueiredo and Jacintha Umbelina de Jesus, of whom I acknowledge with all > the necessary papers and without impediment either canonical or civil for > marriage. Two ???, obtained a dispensation of kinship of 4th degree > ? that bound them by sentence the excellent Reverend Mr. Bishop of > this diocese of 24 of November of the year 1873; He of the age of 28 years, > single, small farmer, resident of the place of Feteireas in the Parish of > San Pedro of this council, where he is a native and baptized, legitimate son > of Jose Manoel Coelho, native and baptized in that Parish and of Maria > Jacintha de Figueiredo, whose occupation ??? ??? ??? ???, native and > baptized of Santa Barbara and she of the age of 23 years, single, > living with dear parents at the place of Feterireas of this Parish, > legitimate daughter of Antonio Jose de Moura, ? and of Rosa Jacintha de > Jesus, whose occupation (governo de sua cara) *government in your face??? > * Native and baptized in this Parish, of whom the betrothed received each > other as husband and wife and I joined them in matrimony ?? ?? of ?? ?? > Ecclesiastical of this same island in ??? of three is correct month and > year, following in all this process the rites of the Holy Roman Catholic > Apostolic Church. > > Witnesses were present whom I acknowledge Antonio Soares Velho de > Bettencourt, small farmer, ??? resident ??? of the place of Feteiras of this > parish of San Pedro and Francisco Joaquin de Andrade, ,? of this > church and resident of the same place. In proof of this, I made in > duplicate this entry, which after having been read and checked in the > presence of the spouses and witnesses, with me and signed ?? by the last > ??? de not know how to write. > > ** ** > > It is as above, > > Francisco Joaquin de Andrade > > Assistant Vicar, Angelo > Soares da Camara > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- Ricardo Chaves www.rchaves.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Traveling to Sao Miguel and looking for family history
t; parents, aunts and uncles have passed on and am left to my own devices > to > find this information. > I have my grandparents name but that is all I have. > What would be my best course to take? > > Thank You > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- Ricardo Chaves www.rchaves.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
