Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca Records

[Terri Santos]

I wanted to chime in here and say that I am currently working on the *Vila 
Franca Matriz marriage records for 1763-1799* (since there  already is an 
index of names starting 1800-1900)  
I currently have Apr 1763- July 1777 marriages done and will definitely 
share with the group when its all done. 
I think it would be fantastic if volunteers transcribe and share their 
index lists.  I still think its super important for people to confirm 
names, dates with the original documents on the CCA site in case something 
was interpreted wrong. The documents online may have alot more information 
that might be important that we are not including on the transcribed 
indexes like...places of birth, sidenotes of info...etc...
Terri 


On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 4:45:25 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Fernando,
>
> As you know, there is a marriage index for Sao Miguel Arcanjo from 
> 1800-1900. My suggestion would be to work backwards from that date (so 
> starting in 1799 and working backwards). The further back you go, the more 
> abbreviations are there and the more difficult it is to decipher. You may 
> find more people willing to help out with the late 1700s too, as those 
> earlier records are more difficult. I'd think you find more volunteers for 
> a later time period. Anyways, it's just a thought. Since you are organizing 
> it, you can do it however you chose :)
>
> Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:43 PM Fernando Pimentel  > wrote:
>
>> In a previous post I found out that Terri Santos had transcribed and made 
>> available an index of Sao Pedro in VF (which was helpful). I thought that 
>> instead of going through the records over and over I should create an index 
>> and hopefully the extra work up front would pay off after. Also once I’m 
>> done I will share with the group somehow and others can benefit. So I 
>> decided to do Matriz marriage from 1670-1705. Here’s why I’m writing this 
>> post, does anyone have any indexes they have done (of VF or any other areas 
>> besides the one on the Gen website)? Does anyone want to transcribe any 
>> records from VF? We can coordinate so we split the work and help each other 
>> out. 
>> Thanks Fernando 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ernesto do Canto Index

[Terri Santos]

Thanks for explaining Cheri. And yes... i have already noticed some of my
own mistakes...ie... writing ‘Antonio’ instead of ‘Antonia’ under the
brides name.
I want to continue with the next index years at some point and I’ll try to
do better!
But for now its off to the parade to celebrate the Raptors victory!!! 😁

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 1:03 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yes, Terri's index is better than Canto's because it includes everybody.
> And Canto may have had access to records from 100 years ago that are not
> available today. Both Terri and Canto were human and although they don't
> want to make mistakes, a few were probably made.
>
> As for copying, it depends. When I was copying the inventories (taking
> pictures with my cell phone) they told me that may NOT post them anywhere
> on the Internet. So I had to say OK to that and respect their wishes, as I
> wanted the information. So I guess it depends what you are copying and from
> what time period.
> Cheri
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019, 8:51 PM Fernando Pimentel 
> wrote:
>
>> The reason I’m curious about the Canto index is because the list that
>> Terri compiled for S Pedro has names on the Canto index that were not on
>> the CCA books. Do the archives allow copying (photographs, photocopies)?
>> Thanks Fernando
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ernesto do Canto Index

[Terri Santos]

Its there Cheri. When you go to the GenWeb site... indexes... choose Sao Miguel 
island...scroll right to the bottom if that page and the Sao Pedro index i 
worked on is there. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco dePimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

Thanks Margaret

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:26 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Terri,
>
>
>
> It’s good to do your own  search to verify but you will be searching in
> vain, if indeed this is the couple you are working on.  They only had 3
> children (Umbelina, Joao and Maria] plus one unborn child at the time of
> the father’s death.  Umbelina was already married by the time the parents
> were wed.
>
>
>
> Here’s the marriage record on the death bed of Joao Travassos and Josefa
> Mariana, right sight.  Look at the bottom where you will see the named
> children the couple had between them.
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P115.html
>
>
>
> I have ancestors married at 12 and 13 years of age.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Terri Santos 
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 8:11 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco
> dePimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for your points Now time to search
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:02 PM Ângela Loura 
> wrote:
>
> Terri, also search for Maria's parents death records, to see if the number
> of children is mentioned.
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello  escreveu no dia domingo, 26/05/2019
> à(s) 00:48:
>
> The index was made by a human and humans can make mistakes. Look at all
> the kids and look for gaps between kids. Then search those gaps by hand.
>
>
>
> I'm suspicious that there was only ONE Maria!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:45 PM Terri Santos 
> wrote:
>
> This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the
> index.
>
> If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look thereperhaps
> this couple lived there too?
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Terri,
>
>
>
> Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna? You
> know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos 
> wrote:
>
> Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.
> Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html
>
>
>
>
> this is the death record for Maria
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html
>
>
>
>
> Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years old
> at marriage..
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Terri,
>
>
>
> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao
> and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same day
> in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days of
> of the month of January of 1844.
>
>
>
> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children on
> their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death recognizing
> them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8 of this
> Parish pages 113….
>
>
>
> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children…
>
>
>
> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>
>
>
> m
>
>
>
> *From: *Terri Santos 
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de
> Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>
>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.
>
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years
> old at marriage.
&

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

Thanks everyone for your points Now time to search

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:02 PM Ângela Loura  wrote:

> Terri, also search for Maria's parents death records, to see if the number
> of children is mentioned.
>
> Cheri Mello  escreveu no dia domingo, 26/05/2019
> à(s) 00:48:
>
>> The index was made by a human and humans can make mistakes. Look at all
>> the kids and look for gaps between kids. Then search those gaps by hand.
>>
>> I'm suspicious that there was only ONE Maria!
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:45 PM Terri Santos 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the
>>> index.
>>> If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look thereperhaps
>>> this couple lived there too?
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Terri,
>>>>
>>>> Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna?
>>>> You know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.
>>>>> Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> this is the death record for Maria
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years
>>>>> old at marriage..
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente <
>>>>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Terri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the
>>>>>> Joao and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834
>>>>>> baptized same day in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de 
>>>>>> Ponta
>>>>>> Delgada … days of of the month of January of 1844.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto
>>>>>> children on their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his 
>>>>>> death
>>>>>> recognizing them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 
>>>>>> 8
>>>>>> of this Parish pages 113….
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own
>>>>>> children…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Terri Santos 
>>>>>> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
>>>>>> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
>>>>>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco
>>>>>> de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.
>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

This is the only Maria born to Joao and Marianna that I found in the
index.
If she was baptized in Ponta Delgada, so then I'll look thereperhaps
this couple lived there too?

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 7:37 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Terri,
>
> Did you find every single kid for Joao Travassos and Josepha Marianna? You
> know every family needs AT LEAST 3 Marias! LOL
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:10 PM Terri Santos 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.
>> Here it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html
>>
>>
>> this is the death record for Maria
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html
>>
>>
>> Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years
>> old at marriage..
>> 
>>
>> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente <
>> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Terri,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao
>>> and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same
>>> day in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days
>>> of of the month of January of 1844.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children
>>> on their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death
>>> recognizing them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8
>>> of this Parish pages 113….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Terri Santos 
>>> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
>>> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
>>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de
>>> Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>>>
>>>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.
>>> She married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.
>>>
>>> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years
>>> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years
>>> old at marriage.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

Here's the marriage record I found in SM-VFC for Francisco and Maria.  Here
it mentions Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada for her again.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P242.html


this is the death record for Maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1895-1899_item1/P64.html


Seems to be the same person, but when I do the mathshe is 11 years old
at marriage..


On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:56 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Terri,
>
>
>
> The record states the different dates and places of baptism for the Joao
> and Maria, who were both Expostos; Joao on Mar 9th 1834 baptized same day
> in Candelaria.  Maria baptized in Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada … days of
> of the month of January of 1844.
>
>
>
> The document is a legitimization record for these two exposto children on
> their father’s deatch bed as declared in the hour of his death recognizing
> them and marrying/receiving their Mother ……… marriage … book 8 of this
> Parish pages 113….
>
>
>
> It also goes to say the mother also recognized them as her own children…
>
>
>
> Record signed and dated June 11 1845
>
>
>
> m
>
>
>
> *From: *Terri Santos 
> *Sent: *May 25, 2019 1:06 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de
> Pimentel)S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
>
>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.
>
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years
> old at marriage.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel) S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1844-1846_item1/P70.html

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:01:46 PM UTC-4, Terri Santos wrote:
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>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She 
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.  
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years 
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years 
> old at marriage.  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel) S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

OOPS...Pressed post too quick and I wasn`t done writing
In the baptism record I found below i found that she was from Sao Sebastiao 
in Ponta Delgada along with a brother Joao. But both children were baptised 
in different places I think.
Can anyone share some clarity to what might be going on here.
Thanks
Terri Santos

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>  I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She 
> married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.  
> Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years 
> old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years 
> old at marriage.  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria de Jesus(wife of Francisco de Pimentel) S.Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada OR from SM-Vila Franca?

[Terri Santos]

 I`m trying to get some clarity for one Maria de Jesus in my files.  She 
married and died in Sao Miguel Vila Franca do Campo.  
Her death record on 10 July 1896 states she died at the age of 53 years 
old.  That makes her birth year c.1843, but that would make her 11 years 
old at marriage.  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Furtado (1750s-1813) & Marianna da Trindade (1750s-1823) of Vila Franca & Ponta Garca

[Terri Santos]

Not sure if you had this info already or not Cheri. 
I found this today and wondered if it could be the death records for your 
Manuel Furtado and Marianna da Trindade.
I think Marianna's is rightbut with the one for Manuel, it says his 
wife's name was Marianna da Piedade. Did you find her name as such anywhere 
on the childrens records?
well...take a look and see.

Obito for Marianna da Trindade
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848_item1/P56.html

Obito for Manuel Furtado (husband of Marianna da Piedade)
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1811-1848_item1/P23.html



On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 9:50:06 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> Hi Todd,
>
> Nope, not yet. They HAD to be SOMEONE'S godparents! Something!
> Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:42 PM brownat68 > 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> Did you ever find Manuel and Mariana's parents?
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:54:11 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> The Catholic Church required the dispensations. My greats had a 
>>> dispensation in New Bedford, Massachusetts. But, in America, it was just a 
>>> side note in the marriage book. I don't know that dispensation packets 
>>> exist. I took pictures of the ones in the Azores and will upload in a week 
>>> or 2. Cheri
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2018 3:48 PM, "Elaine Mello"  wrote:
>>>
 My grandparents were cousins, but got married here in the US, so there 
 wouldn't be anything back in the Azores for them (presumably), 

 Antonio Mello (b1889) was a great grandson through Ana de Espírito 
 Santo through Antonio De Mello Barboza (b 1819) and my grandmother Maria 
 Lima (b 1890) was a great granddaughter of Ana through Manoel De Mello 
 Barboza (b 1829) via his daughter Francisca Roza De Mello (b 1854).  
 Unless 
 that was tracked back home at some point even though they got married in 
 the States.

 Elaine 
  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side bar help! Pedro Miguel

[Terri Santos]

I grew up with a neighbour named Grinalda when I was a kid. I always did think 
that name was very different. She hated it and went by ‘Tina’ instead 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Terri Santos]

Here's Iria's death record if you didn't already have it.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P57.html

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-5, Terri Santos wrote:
>
> Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de 
> Sousa Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I 
> don’t have his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or 
> earlier.I looked at your chart and basically have all the same info you 
> have. If there is anything you need from my end, I would love to help. 
> Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de Sousa 
Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I don’t have 
his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or earlier.I looked at 
your chart and basically have all the same info you have. If there is anything 
you need from my end, I would love to help. 
Terri Santos

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (Send greetings here)

[Terri Santos]

Merry Christmas everyone! I may not be on here often but just want to say I 
‘LOVE LOVE LOVE ‘ this group and thanks to everyone who has helped me along my 
family search all these years.
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

[Terri Santos]

Thanks so much to everyone. With your help i’ve had more clarity and some leads 
to go on. 
Terri 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

[Terri Santos]

I am working on finding ancestors for my cousins family tree as my Xmas 
gift to them.  I think I've got almost as far back as i can with these 
names. I've gotten better at reading these documents, but am having a hard 
time reading this one to determine if I have the right names and place to 
continue searching...left page...

Joao? da Costa son of Manuel? da Costa Duque and Maria da Costa ( of Ponta 
Garca, Vila Franca do Campo)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P87.html

Looking for confirmation...
Please and thank you,
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Agua d'alto records prior to 1834 on CulturaAcores-where if anywhere can I find them

[Terri Santos]

I checked my data base and couldnt find any matches to those names. Sorry

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> On Oct 11, 2018, at 12:34 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-AGUADEALTO-C-1834-1855/SMG-VF-AGUADEALTO-C-1834-1855_item1/P9.html
> 
> page 8
> 
> There is no Andrade or Furtado in the immediate ancestry. Are you sure about 
> the name, Manuel Jacinto Furtado Andrade? The parents of this Luis Jacinto 
> (do Amaral) are Jacinto Jose do Amaral and Josefa Mariana. Said Luis Antonio 
> married Maria do Rozario [or Sousa], Jan 11- 1836, filha de Joao de Sousa and 
> Francisca de Jesus. The mother is a match as she is a Sousa and the godfather 
> of Manuel is her brother Antonio de Sousa who same parents as this Maria do 
> Rosario.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 10:39:52 AM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>> I found couple of possible matches. Are your about those names? What is date 
>> of marriage for Manuel Jacinto Furtado Andrade and his wife?
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:40:58 PM UTC-4, Nat Escaler wrote:
>>> Jacinto or Jacinto Furtado Andrade - early 1800's?
>>> Luiz Jacinto (Jacintho?) may go by Luis Jacinto Travâo married to Maria (de 
>>> Jesus or de Coraçao) Souza, they had a son Manuel Jacinto Furtado Andrade 
>>> born 19 Nov 1843 (pg.26 in Agua de Alto book) (my great-grandfather)
>>> I am trying to work back, but am having problems finding  Luis Jacinto.  
>>> Indications are that they were from Sao Lazaro, Agua de Alto. 
>>> 
 On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:53 PM JR  wrote:
 Whom are you looking for and the time period?
 
 JR
 
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 10:31:01 PM UTC-4, Nat Escaler wrote:
> Thank you JR.  I had already looked in Sao Pedro, but I may have missed 
> it. I will look again as well as in Agua de Pau. I appreciate your help.
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
>  
> 
> From: JR
> Sent: October 9, 2018 7:08 PM
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Agua d'alto records prior to 1834 on 
> CulturaAcores-where if anywhere can I find them
> 
>  
> 
> You will find all the early records of Agua de Alto in Sao Pedro de Vila 
> Franca. Also, if you don't find them there, try Agua de Pau and the 
> Matriz, Sao Miguel, of Vila Franca.
> 
>  
> 
> JR
> 
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 1:39:25 PM UTC-4, Nat Escaler wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> I searched this topic and am not able to find anything, I was wondering 
> if someone can help me as I am stuck on my family tree, it appears as 
> though my paternal-maternal side is from Agua d'alto and records on 
> Cultura Acores only start 1834, and I need to go prior.
> 
> Does anyone know if it's because records were destroyed or I should look 
> elsewhere.  Thank you in advance for any help.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Agua d'alto records prior to 1834 on CulturaAcores-where if anywhere can I find them

[Terri Santos]

Hi Nat, I also have many ancestors from Agua ‘Alto, Vila Franca and Agua de 
Pau. If you post names, I can also check my lines to see if there is any info I 
could help you out with. 
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Sao Miguel Marriage Indexes

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Sorry... and yes for the Island of Sao Miguel

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> On Sep 28, 2018, at 9:06 PM, Terri Santos  wrote:
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> Yes its for the church Sao Pedro in Vila Franca do Campo.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 28, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Thanks Terri, for all amount of time you put into this project 
>> 
>> To be crystal clear, it's for the church call Sao Pedro, in Vila Franca do 
>> Campo, on the island of Sao Miguel. So many churches are named Sao Pedro. 
>> Double check to be sure it's your village.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:18 PM Terri Santos  
>>> wrote:
>>> My pleasure. I hope it helps make some of the research easier for someone 
>>> as I have been helped so many times by others here on this site as well. I 
>>> suggest anyone using my index to look at the actual records on the CCA site 
>>> still as well as I am human... and hopefully havent made a mistake with the 
>>> names. ( i double and triple checked.. but you never know😉)
>>> Terri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Sao Miguel Marriage Indexes

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Yes its for the church Sao Pedro in Vila Franca do Campo.

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> On Sep 28, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> Thanks Terri, for all amount of time you put into this project 
> 
> To be crystal clear, it's for the church call Sao Pedro, in Vila Franca do 
> Campo, on the island of Sao Miguel. So many churches are named Sao Pedro. 
> Double check to be sure it's your village.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:18 PM Terri Santos  wrote:
>> My pleasure. I hope it helps make some of the research easier for someone as 
>> I have been helped so many times by others here on this site as well. I 
>> suggest anyone using my index to look at the actual records on the CCA site 
>> still as well as I am human... and hopefully havent made a mistake with the 
>> names. ( i double and triple checked.. but you never know😉)
>> Terri
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[AZORES-Genealogy] New Sao Miguel Marriage Indexes

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My pleasure. I hope it helps make some of the research easier for someone as I 
have been helped so many times by others here on this site as well. I suggest 
anyone using my index to look at the actual records on the CCA site still as 
well as I am human... and hopefully havent made a mistake with the names. ( i 
double and triple checked.. but you never know😉)
Terri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport records for Sao Miguel Island before 1875

[Terri Santos]

Thanks everyone. I went through a few years where I thought 'maybe ' it could 
be.. but came up with nothing. 

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> Ponta Delgada passaportes before 1875 are lost :(
> 
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> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 7:15 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  
>> wrote:
>> Terri, I've seen a few in my searches but not many. I don't want to 
>> discourage you but it may be a fruitless search. 
>> 
>> 
>> Rosemarie
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>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Terri Santos  
>>> wrote:
>>> Through one of my Sao Miguel Island records, I found that an ancestor was 
>>> 'ausente' (away) in Brazil at the time of his grandsons baptism in 1866. 
>>> Seems there are no passport records earlier than 1875 for Ponta Delgada. I 
>>> see that passport records go back farther  for Horta and Angra do Heroismo. 
>>>  Has anyone found Sao Miguel ancestors on those passport records? I looked 
>>> a little through them, but not sure if its worth the search.
>>> Thanks
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Passport records for Sao Miguel Island before 1875

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Through one of my Sao Miguel Island records, I found that an ancestor was 
'ausente' (away) in Brazil at the time of his grandsons baptism in 
1866. Seems there are no passport records earlier than 1875 for Ponta 
Delgada. I see that passport records go back farther  for Horta and Angra 
do Heroismo.  Has anyone found Sao Miguel ancestors on those passport 
records? I looked a little through them, but not sure if its worth the 
search.
Thanks
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abridged summary of azores@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 1 topic

[Terri Santos]

Happy Easter to everyone!! Hope there is malasadas (Portuguese doughnuts) or  
massa ( sweet bread) at your tables.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Raleza, Antonio Soares

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I don't have anyone with the surname Raleza in my family but just wanted to say 
that my father has a friend who's family last name is Raleza. ( not his 
nickname)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Power of the Azores Genealogy Google Group and DNA

[Terri Santos]

Hi Pat,
I believe my cousin has been in touch with you already as she is starting 
her research on her dads side.  I have been trying to help her as well.
I saw this post and perhaps you have already found much more by now.  
You said in this message that you didn't have much info on the Rosa's .   I 
found from Jose Francisco's first marriage to Maria Felicia do Coracao de 
Jesus
Rosa born 20 July 1860 in Feteira, Horta, Faial Isl. and she was baptized 
on 29 July 1860

from Jose's second marriage to Virginia Emilia was
Rosalinda born 11 July 1874 in Feteira, Horta, Faial Isl and she was 
baptized on 23 July 1874

Sorry if this is old news
Terri Santos


On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:39:21 PM UTC-5, DBM wrote:
>
> Hi Rico,
>
> I am Deb McCabe, the Deb that my prima Pat mentioned in the post you 
> referenced.  I wanted to reach out to see if we can figure out if we are 
> related.
>
> I have two possible connections in my tree.  Either could be the Rosa 
> Silvia Martins (aka Rosa Silveira Martins and Rosa Margarida Martins) you 
> mentioned as the mother of your  Rosa (born 1898 and married to Rufino 
> Silveira de Faria). 
>
> The* first Rosa Silvia Martins possibility* is:
> Rosa
> Born in Feteira, Faial in 1860.
> Daughter of Jose Francisco Martins and his first wife,  Maria Felicia do 
> Coracao de Jesus.  Jose is my paternal great grandfather.
>
> The *second Rosa Silvia Martins possibility* is:
> Rosalinda
> Born in Feteira, Faial in 1874.
> Daughter of Jose Francisco Martins and his second wife, Virginia Emilia.  
> Jose Francisco and Virginia Emilia are my  paternal grandparents.
>
> Unfortunately,  I don't have any info on either of these women.  
> Nevertheless, I wanted to reach out in case, as you were looking through 
> the records, you saw any of these names. 
>
>  Also, if you know any other names of relatives in the Azores or who came 
> to the U.S., perhaps we can figure out if there is a connection by starting 
> with them.  Also, Pat and I both have had our DNA tested.  If you take the 
> FTDNA test, we will know for sure.
>
> Please do keep me posted.  Best of luck!
>
> Deb
>
>
> *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!*
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017, 2:18:34 PM PST, Rico Garcia <
> ricog...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> I just stumbled upon this post, as I am new to the group. I have Martins 
> from Feteira, Faial in my family as well, and I am not finding much more on 
> that part of the family. Rosa Silvina Martins (b 1898 - ?, married to 
> Rufino Silveira de Faria), and her mother Rosa Silvia Martins (AKA Rosa 
> Silveira Martins, and Rosa Margarida Martins). I am curious if these names 
> are familiar to you. Thank you for your time.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 8:25:36 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Repost for Pat Girard, quilterpat705 at sbcglobal.net
>
> Hi Cheri,
>
> I had to share this with you! Four years ago I saw a post on the Azores 
> Google Group asking if anyone had Martins from Feteira Faial in their 
> tree.  I was so excited because I did and it had been a dead end. I 
> contacted Deb McCabe and we compared notes. We were convinced that we 
> probably were 3rd cousins. Fast forward to FTDNA. Yes, we are 3rd cousins! 
> We are meeting in person for the first time in 2 weeks. I'm so excited 
> because she is the first living relative I have found on my father's side. 
> Previously the only paternal relatives I have ever known were my father, my 
> grandfather (who died when I was 5) and my aunt who was childless.
>
> Thank you Cheri, I couldn't have done this without you. You are forever in 
> my debt. Can't wait till the conference!
>
> Pat Girard
>
> PS, If you wish to post this to the group please do.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Location in Brazil

[Terri Santos]

Hi Rick, 
I found this on the internet for the possible location of the church you are 
looking for;
The church Igreja Matriz Bom Jesus at Brazil, São Paulo, Ribeirao Grande, 
village, Praca Bom Jesus, 110

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestor Trip to Azores...Azores Airlines Fare Sale

[Terri Santos]

My parents are coming back today from their 2 week vacation on Sao Miguel. I 
know the flight there was fine with Azores Airlines and the stewardesses were 
very helpful with them. Seems there was a half hour delay going and we'll see 
how coming back will be. Really bad weather right now in Canada which may 
understandably be cause for another delay. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri Santos]

This is a breakthrough for sure! Thanks for finding this one because it's the 
ONLY record in Matriz Vila Franca that mentioned Anna was from somewhere else!

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> On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:13 AM, mnk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terri,
> I happened to be looking through baptisms in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo, 
> yesterday and saw a baptism of Luzia, daughter of Antonio de Sousa and Anna 
> Moniz.  I remember the names because I checked if they were in my tree.  I 
> just looked again and In fact Anna Moniz is from Fenais da Vera Cruz and 
> Antonio from Matriz, Vila Franca. Luzia was born 6 Dec 1759.
> MNK 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri Santos]

Thanks John . No where in any documents I had did it mention Fenais but it 
makes sense since I was looking through years and years for them but couldn't 
find a Ana Monis!! Like I said.. I will comb through what I have again and 
check this out later. You are the best!!

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> On Dec 27, 2017, at 10:29 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> It just so happens I was looking in Fenais just yesterday. I think these are 
> the right people, as Antonio de Sousa is native of Vila Franca, while Anna 
> Moniz is native of Fenais da Vera Cruz. 
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772_item1/P92.html
> 
> page 89 verso, Fenais da Vera Cruz, Sept 9- 1753, Antonio de Sousa, filho de 
> Pedro de Souza e Luzia Correa, baptizado e disobrigado Matriz de Sao Miguel 
> de Villa Franca, com Anna Muniz, filha de Joze Rabello and Jozepha Muniz, 
> baptizado e disobrigada nesta parochial dos Santos Reis Magos lugar dos 
> Fenais...
> 
> And it so happens this Moniz line links to the Braga line. Will send it to 
> you privately.
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 6:23:25 AM UTC-5, Terri Santos wrote:
>> Rosa's parents names were always found as Antonio de Sousa and Ana Monis. 
>> Cheri,  I couldn't find ANY marriage in Vila Franca for them.Thanks John, I 
>> will check this information tonight after work and look for common clues 
>> with the info you now gave me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2017, at 2:36 AM, JR  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Of course I forgot to post the marriage date of Antonio Sousa cc Anna 
>>> Maria, July 23 1759, VF Matriz.
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763_item1/P140.html
>>> 
>>> JR
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 2:24:07 AM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>>> I think I have a couple of leads for you. I have, Antonio de Sousa Gois or 
>>>> Goes cc Ana Maria do Sacramento, Vila Franca Matriz; The paternal 
>>>> grandmother of this Ana is Ana Moniz cc Bento Cardoso da Silva, in Ponta 
>>>> Garca, March 18- 1695. So this may be a match.
>>>> 
>>>> I also have Manuel de Sousa cc Escolastica Rosa, married in VF Matriz, Aug 
>>>> 4- 1782. Said Manuel is stated to be native of Fenais da Vera Cruz and his 
>>>> parents are Antonio de Sousa and Ana Moniz. 
>>>> 
>>>> Since you have already looked in Vila Franca for children, maybe start 
>>>> looking in Fenais da Ajuda (aka Fenais da Vera Cruz). Or even for the 
>>>> marriage. 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> JR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>> Did you find the marriage of Antonio de Sousa and Anna Moniz?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Terri Santos  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have just spent the whole weekend looking for the birth record of Rosa 
>>>>>> de Sao Jose. Her marriage and last two childrens records mention her 
>>>>>> parents names and that they were also from Vila Franca.  STill I could 
>>>>>> not even find OTHER  children born to her parents Antonio de Sousa and 
>>>>>> Anna Monis.  I have attached my family group sheet should anyone on the 
>>>>>> list match to Rosa or her parents.
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Terri Santos
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri Santos]

Rosa's parents names were always found as Antonio de Sousa and Ana Monis. 
Cheri,  I couldn't find ANY marriage in Vila Franca for them.Thanks John, I 
will check this information tonight after work and look for common clues with 
the info you now gave me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2017, at 2:36 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Of course I forgot to post the marriage date of Antonio Sousa cc Anna Maria, 
> July 23 1759, VF Matriz.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1743-1763_item1/P140.html
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 2:24:07 AM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>> I think I have a couple of leads for you. I have, Antonio de Sousa Gois or 
>> Goes cc Ana Maria do Sacramento, Vila Franca Matriz; The paternal 
>> grandmother of this Ana is Ana Moniz cc Bento Cardoso da Silva, in Ponta 
>> Garca, March 18- 1695. So this may be a match.
>> 
>> I also have Manuel de Sousa cc Escolastica Rosa, married in VF Matriz, Aug 
>> 4- 1782. Said Manuel is stated to be native of Fenais da Vera Cruz and his 
>> parents are Antonio de Sousa and Ana Moniz. 
>> 
>> Since you have already looked in Vila Franca for children, maybe start 
>> looking in Fenais da Ajuda (aka Fenais da Vera Cruz). Or even for the 
>> marriage. 
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>> Did you find the marriage of Antonio de Sousa and Anna Moniz?
>>> 
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Terri Santos  wrote:
>>>> I have just spent the whole weekend looking for the birth record of Rosa 
>>>> de Sao Jose. Her marriage and last two childrens records mention her 
>>>> parents names and that they were also from Vila Franca.  STill I could not 
>>>> even find OTHER  children born to her parents Antonio de Sousa and Anna 
>>>> Monis.  I have attached my family group sheet should anyone on the list 
>>>> match to Rosa or her parents.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> Terri Santos
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Rosa de Sao Jose of Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri Santos]

I have just spent the whole weekend looking for the birth record of Rosa de 
Sao Jose. Her marriage and last two childrens records mention her parents 
names and that they were also from Vila Franca.  STill I could not even 
find OTHER  children born to her parents Antonio de Sousa and Anna Monis.  
I have attached my family group sheet should anyone on the list match to 
Rosa or her parents.
Thank you

Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande-Need help with husbands name on record for Barbara Soares

[Terri Santos]

This is wonderful Manoel!  Thank you! I had Maria your descendant on my
list of Lazaro's children and you helped me with quite a bit more going
back. I descend from his son Antonio Soares who married Maria de Medeiros
on 24 Jan 1734 in Sao Pedro, Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande.
I did have Lazaro's father as unknown (is that the 'N' person you have in
your chart? and his mother as Maria Velha... not Clara Velha.  See the link
below

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1630-1699/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1630-1699_item1/P117.html

Did you happen to have Lazaro's mother as Clara somewhere else? Perhaps she
was Maria Clara?



On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:24 PM, mances  wrote:

> Hi Terri,
>
> Lázaro Rodrigues and Bárbara Soares are my ancestors too. I descend from
> their daughter Maria Soares married to João Moniz on 18 mar 1731, CCA #73,
> in São Pedro da Ribeira Grande.
>
> Manoel César Furtado
>
>
> In short, here's what I have about them:
>
> *Ahnentafel Chart for Maria Soares*
>
>
>
>
>
> *First Generation*
>
>
>
>   1.* Maria Soares * was born on 3 Jun 1701 in São Pedro, Ribeira
> Grande. She died on 15 Nov 1757 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
> Maria married *João Moniz * son of Manuel Pais de Teve and Bárbara da
> Costa Moniz on 18 Mar 1731 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. João was born on
> 24 Jan 1704 in Nordestinho, São Miguel. He died on 26 Aug 1767 in São
> Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Second Generation*
>
>
>
>   2.* Lázaro Rodrigues * was born on 20 Apr 1666 in Água do Alto,
> Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 10 Jan 1740 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
> He married Bárbara Soares on 28 Jan 1690 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
>   3.* Bárbara Soares * was born on 19 Feb 1668 in São Pedro, Ribeira
> Grande. She died on 25 Dec 1739 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Third Generation*
>
>
>
>   4.* N. *
>
>
>
>   5.* Clara Velho * was born about 1622 in Água do Alto, Vila Franca
> do Campo. She died after 1690.
>
>
>
>   6.* João da Costa * was born on 6 Nov 1648 in São Pedro, Ribeira
> Grande. He died on 2 May 1681 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. He married
> Águeda Soares on 3 Jul 1666 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
>   7.* Águeda Soares * was born on 18 May 1644 in São Pedro, Ribeira
> Grande. She died on
>
> 22 Feb 1718 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Fourth Generation*
>
>
>
> 10.* Sebastião Rodrigues * was born about 1572 in Água do Alto, Vila
> Franca do Campo. He married Maria Velho on 8 Oct 1596 in São Pedro, Vila
> Franca do Campo.
>
>
>
> 11.* Maria Velho * was born about 1575 in Água do Alto, Vila Franca
> do Campo. She died before 1647.
>
>
>
> 12.* Manuel da Costa * was born in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. He
> married Bárbara Gonçalves.
>
>
>
> 13.* Bárbara Gonçalves * was born in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. She
> died after 1666.
>
>
>
> 14.* Manuel Fernandes Marzagal * was born about 1610 in Santo
> Antonio, São Miguel. He died on 5 Feb 1680 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. He
> married Gracia Soares on 5 Mar 1637 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
> 15.* Gracia Soares * was born on 31 May 1613 in São Pedro, Ribeira
> Grande. She died on 15 Apr 1690 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Fifth Generation*
>
>
>
> 20.* Sebastião Rodrigues * was born in São Pedro, Vila Franca do
> Campo. He married Jerônima Dias.
>
>
>
> 21.* Jerônima Dias * was born in São Pedro, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>
>
> 22.* Sebastião Rodrigues * was born in São Pedro, Vila Franca do
> Campo. He died before 1596. He married Catarina Velho.
>
>
>
> 23.* Catarina Velho * was born in São Pedro, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>
>
> 28.* Domingos Fernandes * was born in Santo Antonio, São Miguel. He
> died before 1637. He married Francisca Manuel.
>
> 29.* Francisca Manuel * was born in Santo Antonio, São Miguel. She
> died before 1637.
>
>
>
> 30.* Baltazar Roiz ou Vidal * was born on 27 Feb 1569 in Matriz,
> Ribeira Grande. He died on 3 Aug 1636 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. He
> married Maria Soares on 5 Mar 1604 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
> 31.* Maria Soares * was born on 30 Nov 1580 in São Pedro, Ribeira
> Grande. She died on 9 Aug 1655 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande.
>
>
>
> *Sixth Generation*
>
>
>
> 60.* Baltazar Vidal * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He died on
> 4 Jan 1609 in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande. He married Isabel Gaga on 1 Dec
> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande-Need help with husbands name on record for Barbara Soares

[Terri Santos]

Thanks Margaret. Much appreciated

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande-Need help with husbands name on record for Barbara Soares

[Terri Santos]

Just found a family line from Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande. I have their 
childrens records, this death record and STILL cannot figure out Barbara 
Soares' husbands name.  It looks like it starts with the letter 'L'  in all 
the records and last name is Rodrigues or Rois.  Can someone please help 
with this writing?  Maybe I've been away from doing my geneology work too 
long. Thanks in advance

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/P161.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread

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Feliz Pascoa everyone! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Modern Portuguese Names

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Oh...Teresinha de Jesus is on the list as accepted. Just saw it now

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Modern Portuguese Names

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My parents got away with giving me a dimunitive name because i was born in 
Canada soon after they immigrated. Teresinha de Jesus is my official name and I 
cant count HOW MANY times someone says 'Teresa' is your real name though 
...right? I work with kids now too and i had one child in my group who's first 
name was Dung. I know how you felt Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS - Vila Franca do Campo

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Hi Eliseu, I've been helping to look for a few names for my cousins maternal 
ancestors and she has a Joao de Medeiros (born 1902) married to a Maria do 
Patrocina and another Joao de Medeiros (born 1871) married to a Maria Jose de 
Andrade. Their records show that they lived in Ribeira Seca but baptisms and 
marriages were in Sao Miguel church in Vila Franca do Campo

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How to format names on family trees?

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At one point I did have my surnames entered as D*e* Pimentel or D*os* 
Santosbut there were soo many people with the de, da, dos 
etc...that it became a task in half to find the right people through my 
data base.  It was suggested to me also to attach the de, da, dos..etc...to 
the given name and although i may still have many people who are Maria de, 
or Joao dos..it became a little easier to find people on my list. The 
exception is if the persons given name is for example, Maria de Jesus. It 
took me a long time to go back through all the names I had collected 
already and make this change, but I find it was worth it. Now I have to 
take the time to make sure I record* where* a person may have been recorded 
as ie..in the marriage record; Joao de Pimentel Andrade and then at his 
death just Joao de Pimentel. 

Terri Santos
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Joe Silvey - Canada

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I ordered Jean Barman's book on Portuguese Joe Silvey even though he had no 
relation to me.  I found his story very interesting and wanted to read more 
about his inter-racial marriages with Canadian Native women.

Terri Santos
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ArquivosVisit-Ponta-Delgada-São-Miguel

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> I was at the archivo in Ponta Delgada last summer also.  There are only 2 
> computers with the documents online and the few times I went...I was also 
> able to get a computer.  I tried to be there once they opened to  ensure I 
> would get a spot.  If you have a list of what you want printed...give it to 
> them early.  As I researched, I wrote down the place, year, name, and  page 
> number I wanted.  Hand it into the clerk early if you want print outs 
> because if you give them too many to look up, you will be waiting a 
> lng time.  You need patience.They crop the name you want and print 
> out only that persons info.  If the document you want splits into two 
> pages...you pay for 2 pages even if its just the last line.  It is better 
> to give them the list and have them email you.  The archivo also has some 
> books on a shelf available with geneology info.  I can't remember exactly , 
> but i think it was marriages for Bretanha or Agua de Pau...for certain 
> years.  
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Soutomaior / Souto Maior as a name

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>
> I have seen this name on a bank here in Toronto and also on the island of 
> Sao Miguel.  Its named after a person.  I found this link about Candido 
> Sotto Mayor
>
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotto_Mayor_Palace
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for Jacinta Emilia Soares in Ribeira Cha, Sao Miguel, Azores

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Hi Terry
I think we have two different Jacinta's.  My ancestor is Jacinta Emilia 
Soares married to Antonio Ambrosio de Araujo.  They had 11 children born in 
Agua d'Alto. I have never seen the name Sentinella in any records but I 
will go back again and check through what I have (just in case)  I don't 
have her death record because it wouldn't be available online (circa 1942) 
.  Funny though how two people with almost the exact same name were born in 
the same place and died in the same place.  Maybe there is a connection 
somewhere along the lines.
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Miguel to Brazil before 1875...Passport records or Passenger lists?

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>
> Thanks Aaron.  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel to Brazil before 1875...Passport records or Passenger lists?

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I have an ancestor from Vila Franca do Campo that married in August 1874. 
His marriage record said that his father, Manuel Pimentel Andrade was 'away 
in Brazil'.  The CCA site has passport records starting at 1875 (of course 
only one year AFTER the year I need to look up...) So CCA site is out. Is 
there any way to find the passenger ship list maybe on a Brazilian site 
somwhere for when he might have arrived in Brazil if I can't when he left 
the Azores?
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family

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> I know of only one ABREU family and they are from the island of Pico in 
> the Azores
>  
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>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro-Vila Franca do Campo Baptisms are up on CCA site

[Terri]

Yeah for Vila Franca people!  We have some more records online this 
morning.  Sao Pedro Baptsims from 1630-1902
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with parents' names in marriage record

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> Erica...this is a HARD one to read!!
>
  A set of professional eyes from someone else is definately needed .  I 
can only make out a tiny bit
 
 Married on 7? of February 1763
 Joam Andre son of Sebastiao? Botelho (deceased) and his wife Ignacia ?
 with Anna Roza daughter of  ?  (deceased) and his wife Francisca Roza
 Baptized at Matriz Sao Sebastiao ..but it doesn't mention their age in 
this document.
 
 Sorrythat's all I got

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FW: Help with names in this record

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Also just to point out to youIts's not CandidA..this document is 
for a boy.CandidO.  You can see that its masculine with other key words 
there like 'filho'  or paternoall ending in the letter 'o' which makes 
words usually masculine.
 

On Monday, February 17, 2014 7:53:01 AM UTC-5, Terri wrote:

> Hi Erica,
> It looks a little like Jasmana? Jacinta and the maternal grandparents are 
> Manuel de Benevides and Sebastianna da Conceicao
>  
> Terri Santos
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FW: Help with names in this record

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Hi Erica,
It looks a little like Jasmana? Jacinta and the maternal grandparents are 
Manuel de Benevides and Sebastianna da Conceicao
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito

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I also have some families connected to Santa Maria but I haven't researched 
the island yet. I don't know if anyone has any connections to them...but 
thought I would just put it out there.
 
Thereza do Espirito Santo born circa 1771, daughter of Antonio Soares and 
Francisca Maria(Margarida?) of Santa Maria Isl
 
Maria dos Santos born 12 Sept 1775 daughter of Manuel de Matos and Anna de 
Arruda of Santa Maria Isl
 
Maria dos Santos born 3 May 1758 in Sao Pedro Vila Franca do Campo daughter 
of Antonio Jose of Santa Maria Isl and Antonia de Sao Jose of Sao Pedro  
Vila Franca do Campo
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese words for blessing

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> This tradition definately isn't old in MY house.  My parents still give me 
> a screwy face if I'm in their house and I haven't asked for their blessing 
> .  "Dad abenca...or Mom abenca"  If I forget and say it minutes 
> later...I'd get the response and a "Oh!  Finally!"  I still ask my aunts 
> and uncles for blessings too whenever I see them.   I do however remember 
> that a couple of my cousins used to ask my grandfather for the same 
> blessing but they would also kiss the back of his hand too.
>
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Patiently waiting for more Ponta Garca Baptism

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> Just saw themMORE Ponta Garca records up!  Marriages and Death 
> records.  Happy searching Pam.
>
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New addition to family

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>
> Congratulations Marcio!   Your tree continues to grow. :)
>
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ponta Garca baptisms available on CCA site

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First Agua d'Alto and now Ponta Garca.   FinallyVila Franca do Campo 
has begun
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Vila Franco do Campo records Baptism are UP

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>
> AND I almost forgot..some PONTA GARCA baptisms are on there too
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Vila Franco do Campo records Baptism are UP

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>
> Marriages and Obitos are also available now for Agua d'Alto . 
>>
>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Vila Franco do Campo records Baptism are UP

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OMG!!! OMG!!!  I am s happy!!  Now I am NEVER gonna leave this computer 
this week.   My parents, and grandparents and greats are from Agua d'Alto 
and Vila Franca do Campo.  Thank you CCA and for everyone who posted here 
to let us know.  And I was gonna spend the day on cleaning my 
house...forget that now! :)
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Feliz Natal / Boas Festas / Merry Christmas 2013 thread

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Feliz Natal e Bom Ano Novo
I hope everyone is happy, safe and warm in the comfort of their homes 
celebrating the holiday season with family and friends.
Thank you to everyone on the list who have reached out to help me this past 
year. And to all who have put interesting 
topics and questions upI am continuing to learn alot from you.  Its 
been great 'knowing' this online 'family' who share the same passion.
 
Terri Santos
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pimentels

[Terri]

Hi Andrew...
Just letting you know that I also have some Pimentels from the island of 
Sao Miguel in the area of Vila Franca do Campo.  Any of your lines from 
that area?
 
Terri Santos
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores history TV spots

[Terri]

Thanks for sharing this.  I watched a few (until my computer froze) . Too 
bad they don't have titles under each video so you know which islands they 
are featuring. I wanted to mostly go through the Sao Miguel ones.
 
Terri Santos
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation?

[Terri]

I have a friend who's aunt is named Emiliana. (And I believe she is from 
Vila Franca do Campo)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Have you posted or updated your Gedcom?

[Terri]

*Thank you Richard and CheriJust did it and it wasnt as hard as I kept 
thinking it was gonna be.* 
 
Terri Santos 
Researching in Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca do Campo
 

On Saturday, November 30, 2013 11:22:03 AM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:

>  *So you have taken the Family Finder DNA test, that is good now what 
> should be done. Once you get your results the real fun begins when you try 
> and find a common ancestor for your matches. The Family Tree DNA has many 
> useful tools but the most important one to put a name on a match is the 
> Gedcom posted with your family tree. The tree which your Gedcom posts on 
> The Family Tree DNA is a very basic tree. The information that is posted 
> from your tree gives is your ancestors NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, LOCATION, DATE 
> OF DEATH, and LOCATION. *
>
>  
>
> *When I look at a person’s tree I look at the locations to see if there is 
> a location we have in common. I do this because family names in the Acores 
> is not as important as in other cultures but once you find a common 
> location then you look for a common name. With the CCA ( 
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ 
> <http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/> ) publishing the records from 
> the Acores on line, researching and finding ancestors to fill you tree is 
> convenient although not necessarily easy. But working with this list help 
> is always available and to complement the saying “many hands make light 
> work” we can add “many eyes make reading easy”. *
>
>  
>
> *While not all the records are on line presently the CCA is making an 
> effort to get them up as quickly as possible. Like many others on this list 
> I am waiting for the Vila do Franco Campo records to complete my 
> connections there and help find matches that I suspect will be found once 
> they are posted.*
>
>  
>
> *I was reminded a couple of weeks ago that my father’s tree which is on 
> Family Tree DNA needed updating. I had first posted the tree when he was 
> first took the MtDNA test several years ago. At that time you posted your 
> male line and female line separately and so my father’s tree only consisted 
> on his female line. In the mean time we upgraded my father’s tree to the 
> Family finder but failed to post his male line. Family Tree DNA has since 
> changed their site so you only post one tree which includes both male and 
> female lines.  *
>
>  
>
> *I have since posted the entire tree of my father to make more information 
> on the site. Hopefully the information I have provided will assist someone 
> looking for a match.*
>
>  
>
> *This past week I got hot on the trail of some ancestors and was able to 
> add some more names to my tree and go back a few more generations. I made a 
> new Gedcom and then posted the updated information on family tree site. You 
> should do this every time you add direct line names to your tree. *
>
>  
>
> *Oh one more thing if you have not posted your tree and do so now you get 
> a $10 coupon to use when purchasing a DNA test from Family tree DNA. So if 
> you talk Aunt Martha in to taking a DNA test over the holidays you can get 
> an additional $10 of the sale price. This applies if you update your tree 
> from the old separate male and female tree to a combined tree. Also you do 
> not have to have a complete tree to post just post what you have now and 
> you can always update you tree later when you add more names. *
>
>  
>
> *Also remember your project administrators are able to assist you in 
> posting your tree and answer any questions.*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
>
> *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project*
>
>   
>
> *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators*
>
> *All unpaid volunteers *
>
> *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com  *
>
> *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com  *
>
> *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com  *
>
>  
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Barnacle Love, a fiction book about an Azorean immigrants experience

[Terri]

I bought this book and enjoyed reading the fictional characters' journey 
from the Azores to Canada.  I just thought with the holidays arriving, some 
folks might want to have something new to read or buy it for someone you 
know.
I've also just started his latest book 'Kicking the Sky' ...also fictional 
but from the viewpoint of young boys of Azorean immigrants in Toronto 
during the time of the murder of the 'Shoeshine boy'...which was a true 
incident in the 70's that shook the whole Portuguese community.
 
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2454933.Barnacle_Love
 
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Have you posted or updated your Gedcom?

[Terri]

*I have been wanting to update my family tree for a while now.( i kinda 
forget how) so I was scared to mess anything up.  Do I have to remove the 
old tree first and then figure out how to put the new Gedcom on?*
 
*Terri Santos*
*Researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca do Campo*
 

On Saturday, 30 November 2013 11:22:03 UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:

>  *So you have taken the Family Finder DNA test, that is good now what 
> should be done. Once you get your results the real fun begins when you try 
> and find a common ancestor for your matches. The Family Tree DNA has many 
> useful tools but the most important one to put a name on a match is the 
> Gedcom posted with your family tree. The tree which your Gedcom posts on 
> The Family Tree DNA is a very basic tree. The information that is posted 
> from your tree gives is your ancestors NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, LOCATION, DATE 
> OF DEATH, and LOCATION. *
>
>  
>
> *When I look at a person’s tree I look at the locations to see if there is 
> a location we have in common. I do this because family names in the Acores 
> is not as important as in other cultures but once you find a common 
> location then you look for a common name. With the CCA ( 
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ 
> <http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/> ) publishing the records from 
> the Acores on line, researching and finding ancestors to fill you tree is 
> convenient although not necessarily easy. But working with this list help 
> is always available and to complement the saying “many hands make light 
> work” we can add “many eyes make reading easy”. *
>
>  
>
> *While not all the records are on line presently the CCA is making an 
> effort to get them up as quickly as possible. Like many others on this list 
> I am waiting for the Vila do Franco Campo records to complete my 
> connections there and help find matches that I suspect will be found once 
> they are posted.*
>
>  
>
> *I was reminded a couple of weeks ago that my father’s tree which is on 
> Family Tree DNA needed updating. I had first posted the tree when he was 
> first took the MtDNA test several years ago. At that time you posted your 
> male line and female line separately and so my father’s tree only consisted 
> on his female line. In the mean time we upgraded my father’s tree to the 
> Family finder but failed to post his male line. Family Tree DNA has since 
> changed their site so you only post one tree which includes both male and 
> female lines.  *
>
>  
>
> *I have since posted the entire tree of my father to make more information 
> on the site. Hopefully the information I have provided will assist someone 
> looking for a match.*
>
>  
>
> *This past week I got hot on the trail of some ancestors and was able to 
> add some more names to my tree and go back a few more generations. I made a 
> new Gedcom and then posted the updated information on family tree site. You 
> should do this every time you add direct line names to your tree. *
>
>  
>
> *Oh one more thing if you have not posted your tree and do so now you get 
> a $10 coupon to use when purchasing a DNA test from Family tree DNA. So if 
> you talk Aunt Martha in to taking a DNA test over the holidays you can get 
> an additional $10 of the sale price. This applies if you update your tree 
> from the old separate male and female tree to a combined tree. Also you do 
> not have to have a complete tree to post just post what you have now and 
> you can always update you tree later when you add more names. *
>
>  
>
> *Also remember your project administrators are able to assist you in 
> posting your tree and answer any questions.*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
>
> *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project*
>
>   
>
> *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators*
>
> *All unpaid volunteers *
>
> *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com  *
>
> *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com  *
>
> *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com  *
>
>  
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Exorcisms? of children in Ginetes documents

[Terri]

Thanks for all your answers. It  gave me more insight about why a child's 
document would say 'exorcism'.  I had first even thought that it could have 
been a seisure or something they saw in a child and mistook it for being 
'possessed by the devil' since they wouldn't have known much about medical 
conditions like that in that era.  But your explanations made alot of 
sense. 
 

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 12:10:21 AM UTC-5, Terri wrote:

>  I found it creepy by interesting that in a few baptism records I needed 
> for children in Ginetes, the word  'exorcismos' appeared.  This does mean 
> exorcisms by a priest were performed right? or does this word have ANOTHER 
> meaning in Portuguese? I've attached two records below.
>  
> Terri Santos
> Researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca do Campo Sao 
> Pedro and Sao Miguel
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes.....Salanca? Is it a name or a place?

[Terri]

I was searching on the CCA site for a death record for someone in my 
Ginetes line.  I thought I had the right person but now I see another word/ 
name in the documents after his name that makes me wonder. I have a 
marriage record for Manuel de Sousa Carvalho x Anna da Estrella . But 
in the death record I found, I read  'Manuel Carvalho Salanca' who 
was married to Anna de Estrella .Sometimes I am seeing ' Lomba' after some 
names and I assume this is a place but is there an area of Ginetes called ' 
Salanca?'   or could this be a last name and maybe I have the wrong death 
record.
 
Terri Santos
researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca Sao Pedro and 
Sao Miguel, 
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trying to encourage CCA to post on-line records for Vila Franca

[Terri]

Thanks for trying again Marcia. It's sad to know that we saw EVERYTHING 
that was available at the click of the mouse on their computer at the 
Archivo and they say they just can't put this information online right now. 
I hope that 'dead last' Vila Franca doesn't mean that we'll still be 
waiting for too many 
YEARS!!  
If there is anything that I could do.I'll do it.
 
Terri Santos 
Researching Vila Franca do Campo, Agua de Pau, Agua d'Alto, Ginetes

On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:43:13 AM UTC-4, Marcia wrote:

> I decided it was worth a shot to send at email to the CCA in the hopes of 
> encouraging them to get the VFC records on-line.   Following is my email 
> and the response that I received.   If I understand  correctly I am being 
> told that the priorities are Ponta Delgada, then Graciosa, and finally the 
> rest of the concelhos on San Miguel.  Is that correct?   The author is also 
> offering to help with further research if I provide names, etc.  Is that 
> correct?   My Portuguese is not very good, so appreciate any help and 
> reaction you care to make.  If there's any follow-up that you would suggest 
> I make in order to further my desire to see those VFC records be made 
> available, please let me know.   We know that those records are available 
> on a computer at the Archivo, so it makes no sense to me that they can't 
> easily be made available through the CCA.   
>
> Regards - Marcia Andre
>
> Ex.ma Senhora
> Márcia André
>
> Na sequência do pedido sobre pesquisas genealógicas de Vila Franca do 
> Campo, ilha de São Miguel, o qual nos mereceu a melhor atenção, informamos 
> que a Direção Regional da Cultura através do Centro de Conhecimento dos 
> Açores está em processo de disponibilização online dos registos paroquiais 
> das freguesias do concelho de Ponta Delgada e concelho da Horta, 
> seguindo-se a ilha Graciosa e restantes concelhos da ilha de São Miguel.
>
> Caso V. Exa. tenha celeridade nalguma registo, indique-nos os dados 
> necessários para a pesquisa (nomes, freguesias, datas).
>
> Cordiais saudações
>
> Rui Marques
> Técnico Superior
>  
> SECRETARIA REGIONAL DA EDUCAÇÃO, CIÊNCIA E CULTURA
> DIREÇÃO REGIONAL DA CULTURA
> Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores
> Palacete Silveira e Paulo - Rua da Conceição
> 9700-054 Angra do Heroísmo - Terceira - Açores
> 9 +351 295 403000 /  +351 295 403001
> http://www.azores.gov.pt/Portal/pt/entidades/pgra-drcultura
>
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/
>
> -Mensagem original-
> De: Marcia Andre 
>  
> ]
> Enviada: domingo, 18 de Agosto de 2013 21:29
> Para: S650-CCA
> Assunto: Vila Franca do Campo records 
>  
>  
> When do you expect to have the records for Vila Franca do Campo on the 
> island of San Miguel available?
>
> Thank you - Marcia Andre
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder test

[Terri]

I had my brother swab for the YDNA testing (because my dad refused to do 
it..) and then upgraded that to the Family Finder.  I got the breakdown for 
that already. BUTIf I wanted to take advantage of this great new price 
and could convince my mom to do a swab for FF, would I get any real 
difference in the results? Or would I just be paying again for pretty much 
the same information to be sent back to me since my brothers test already 
includes male and female lines
 
Terri Santos
Researching Agua d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo, Agua de Pau, Ginetes
 

On Monday, July 29, 2013 1:34:10 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

>   Patricia P,
>
> A direct male descendant is for Y-DNA testing only.  Anyone can take an 
> mtDNA test or the autosomal - Family Finder test.
>
> You can take the Family Finder (FF) test.  But if you still have your 
> parents, test them. Or if you still have your parents' siblings, test 
> them.  They have DNA going back 1 more generation than you do.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Azores DNA
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help on passporte

[Terri]

Hi Sam,
I have two of these also and sometimes the info is hard to read. This is 
what I could get from your page; 
column 1-pg ...55
column 2-year. ...1904
column 3-month.. August
column 4-day...30
   '5-passport #.842
   '6-passenger #...1762
   '7-name..Jose Soares Coelho
   '8-affiliation (parents)..Jose Soares and Jacinta Coelho
   ''9-marital status...single
   '10-age21
   ' 11-concelho..Villa ?
   ' 12-freguesia.Santa Barbara
'13-occupation...trabalhador (worker)
'14-can read & write.no
'15-destination..America
   ' 
 
Hope this helps.   Good luck
 
Terri Santos, 
researching Vila Franca, Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:30:02 PM UTC-4, Sam Koester wrote:

> Hello everyone.  I am in need of some help please.  I found my 
> grandfather's 
> passaporte.  He is the 4th one down and I believe it says he received it 
> or 
> applied for it on August 30th 1904.   
> I don't know what the numbers in the next two columns pertain to.   
> Then it has his name "Jose Soares Coelho".   
> Next, I believe are his parents, "Jose Soares and Jacintha Coelho".   
> Then ditto marks (I don't know what is being dittoed. 
> Then the number 21 (no idea what that refers to) 
> then I think it says Villa something. 
> Then it has dittos for both, I believe, Sao Barbara and trabador (worker) 
> and lastly two more columns with dittos under, I think it is, "nao" (no) 
> and 
> America.   
>
> If SKS could fill in the blanks as well as tell me what the different 
> ditto 
> marks, numbers, etc. refer to I would greatly appreciate it. 
>
> BTS other documents have his parents with various names which compounded 
> come out to be Jose Soares Cordeiro Figueiredo and Jacintha Umbelina 
> Soares 
> de Moura. 
>
> Many thanks, Sam in CA 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale

[Terri]

Hi Cheri, I had my brother do the YDNA test and then upgraded it once (I 
think to YDNA37 or 67?) If I were interested in chosing one of the choices 
on sale, (perhaps the Family Finder) would it be considered an upgrade? or 
a brand new test? Sorry...I know...I'm one of those last minute shoppers
Thanks
 
Terri Santos
Researching Agua d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo, Agua de Pau, Ginetes
 

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:45:53 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:

>  *Hi All,*
>
> * *
>
> *Family Tree DNA has just announced a sale in recognition of DNA Day 
> which will end on Monday April 22*
>
> * *
>
> *These are the best prices I have seen since I have been a 
> Co-Administrator and a great opportunity for you to get some DNA testing.*
>
> * *
>
> *Full MtDNA Sequence…. $189
> Upgrades to FMS….$129
> Y-DNA37 (new and add-on)…. $119
> Y-DNA67 (new and add-on)…. $199
> Y-DNA37 + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $308
> Y-DNA12 + FF…. $218
> Y-DNA37 + FF…. $288
> Y-DNA67 + FF…. $368
> Family Finder $169
> Family Finder + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $358
> SuperDNA….$388 (Y-67 + FMS) 
> Comprehensive DNA…. $557 (Y-67 + FMS + FF) *
>
> * *
>
> *All these tests can be ordered at Family tree DNA. Use this link to the 
> Azores DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Azores/default.aspx If 
> you are already a member of the Azores DNA project then sign in using 
> Your Kit number and password of the test you want to upgrade. If you want a 
> new test for (Auntie Wilma) to take then use the join project button. *
>
> * *
>
> *This is a very short sale so you need to act fast. As far as I know 
> there will still be a summer sale but I do not think there will be as good 
> a pricing.*
>
> * *
>
> *I and the Co-Administrators are unpaid volunteers and receive no 
> compensation for our work with Family Tree DNA. We do this because we have 
> an interest in DNA testing and desire to help our fellow Azoreans with DNA 
> testing.*
>
> * *
>
> *If you have any questions about testing you can direct them to this list 
> of if you desire any of the Co-Administrators below.*
>
> * *
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Bed and Breakfasts in Ponta Delgada this month

[Terri]

I was asking about the B&B for another cousin of mine who is going this 
month to Sao Miguel. They are from my maternal side and unfortunately there 
isn't any close relatives living there anymore. I'm not staying in the B&B 
myself because I'll be staying with my dads side of the family in Agua 
d'Alto when I go in June for two weeks. Yeah!
But thanks for the info. I've passed it on and hopefully it helps them find 
something quick.
 
Terri Santos 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Bed and Breakfasts in Ponta Delgada this month

[Terri]

  Thank you.  I did check the archives.  This B& B Casa da Maria Deus is in 
Povacao.  That's WAY too far since they'll only be in S. Miguel for 3 days 
and then flying off to another island. 
Celeste...i did check out the addres you sent for the place by the arches.  
I think I found them on FB too so I've sent my cousin that info too. THANKS
 
Terri Santos 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Bed and Breakfasts in Ponta Delgada this month

[Terri]

I'll be going to Sao Miguel island this June but I always stay with 
family.  So someone asked me today if I knew of a Bed and Breakfast or 
reasonable hotel in Ponta Delgada.  I thought maybe someone here in the 
group might be able to answer that and I could pass on the information to 
her.  THANKS in advance.
 
Terri Santos, 
researching Vila Franca do Campo, Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Bischo/Bisho

[Terri]

My father and his sibllings have the same parents but a few of them have 
different  or slightly different last names.   There's Santos, dos Santos, 
Amaral, and Macaroco.  I always heard that my uncle Jose Macaroco had a 
been registered with a nickname by his grandmother (who liked a drink or 
two...) and she registered him with the nickname 'Macaroco' which means 
'cob'...like corn on the cob.  Researching a bit farther back now...I've 
found another ancestor with this name but spelled 'Massaroco'.  I've 
haven't been able yet to go further back and see how far this name or 
nickname goes...but it'll be interesting to find out when it started or how 
it's changed through so many years.
 
Terri Santos 
researching Agua d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, 
 

On Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:33:09 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

> Okay I asked a fellow researcher awhile back and she said it meant smelly 
> fish.  Why would someone use that as a surnmae? Is it a cunha? Why would 
> they use their real surname of Medeiros and sometimes use Bischo/Bisho? 
>
>
> Pam
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Entering your places in your genealogy program

[Terri]

Thanks for bringing up this topic.  It's a good reminder that I've yet to 
be consistent throughout my whole program( mostlly on how I'm spelling the 
names of the places like ie..Azores or AcoresSao Miguel or San 
Miguel.) One day soon I should go through my data and fix the way I'm 
typing things in.  But mostly in the Legacy program it divides where 
someone is born, baptized, married, died, buried.  I usually type in for 
ie..
BIRTH-Sao Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel Isl., Azores 
BAPT-Matriz Sao Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel Isl. Azores
MARRIAGE-Sao Lazaro church, Agua d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel 
Isl., Azores
 
Terri Santos
 

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:20:22 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

> What do most of you people do for this?  You are entering a birth, 
> baptism, marriage, death.  It doesn't matter.  Your screen opens up and 
> asks for the place where this event happened.  My program has the following 
> fields:
> Detail
> City
> County
> State
> Country
>
> Detail = the church, but I use it only if there is more than 1 church in 
> that freguesia (Sao Miguel Arcanjo & Sao Pedro are both in Vila Franca).
> City = freguesia
> County = I put the island there.  I know it's closer to the concelho, but 
> before the CCA came online, the concelho didn't matter.  I pulled the roll 
> of film for my freguesia.
> State = I put Azores there
> Country = Portugal
>
> I wouldn't too much work to put the county as the concelho and put the 
> state as Sao Miguel, Azores.  But in sharing Gedcoms, we probably should 
> start to be consistent with each other.
>
> And I DO NOT abbreviate any more.  Or not in the places (in my side notes 
> I abbreviate).  SM?  What's that?  Santa Maria or Sao Miguel?  F?  Faial or 
> Flores??  You want your great-grandkids to inherit this and as adults they 
> pull it out and can't figure out your abbreviations?  
>
> So how do all of you fill in your place fields?
>
> -- 
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> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Luz CCA

[Terri]

They are up!!!  The Fenais de Luz documents are finally up.   No more 404 
error message!!
 
Terri Santos 
Researching Vila Franca do Campo, Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes and 
now...Fenais de Luz

On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:01:10 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote:

> It sure it taking along time, Before was getting an 404 error now no error 
> but no record appears either. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: genealogy workshops in Hayward, CA

[Terri]

California is far for me too.  I'd attend also if it was closer. I WISH 
there were some kind of workshops here in Canada focusing on the Azores 
too! Anything I found has been mostly about British and Irish researching. 
:(
 
Terri Santos
Researching Vila Franca, Agua d'Alto, Ginetes, Agua de Pau

On Thursday, 24 January 2013 18:51:12 UTC-5, João Ventura wrote:

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>  Dear Listers,
>
>  I am returning to California this year, in March and I have organized 4 
> differents workshops, whose flyer is attached. I am open to repeat those or 
> have differents one in other places, if enough people are interested.
>
>  Those interested in participating please contact me privatly at 
> her...@yahoo.com  or joao_v...@sapo.pt 
>
>  Regards,
>
>  João Ventura
>  Terceira
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Luz Baptism on CCA

[Terri]

I haven't been able to open any Fenais da Luz records yet on the CCA site.  
I see all the years for Baptisms but when I click on it...a message shows 
up about the records not being temporarily available, or removed. Is anyone 
else having that problem?  Also...would anyone born in Sao Vicente be part 
of Fenais da Luz or is that a total different area that I should be looking 
in?
 
Terri Santos
Researchng Agua d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo, Agua de Pau, Ginetes
 

On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:29:06 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote:

> The baptism are available on CCA site for Fenais da Luz 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Merry Christmas/Feliz Natal thread

[Terri]

Its' still the holidays right?!  Just been busy the last couple days but I 
couldn't let this week pass without wishing you all a Merry Christmas and 
Happy New Year. Thanks to EVERYONE who has helped mehelped me by 
contacting me personally with information AND those who just post 
interesting and helpful information on this site.  I'm constantly learning 
from you all.  
 
Terri Santos
Researching Vila Franca, Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, 
 

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information posted by someone else!! What do I do?

[Terri]

Thanks everyoneYes I did leave a comment back on October 12th. Your 
right...if someone looks up their tree , hopefully they'll see my comment 
and think twice before  linking themselves to this persons info. And Mary, 
like youI think what bothers me most is that they are also using my 
Grandfathers picture as their own and there isn't anything I can do about 
that. 
 
Terri Santos
 

On Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:12:25 PM UTC-5, Terri wrote:

> I had the opportunity a while ago, to go on Ancestory.com thanks to a 
> cousin of mine who has a subscription.  Looking at her tree and the 'hint' 
> leaves that are flashing...i got curious to see what else they may have 
> online about him.  Someone unknown to us is using my grandfathers picture, 
> his name and my grandmothers name on their own tree.  This person on 
> Ancestory has my grandfather being buried in California when he's actually 
> buried here in Canada.  They also have him married to a second woman and 
> that just is WRONG!!! I've already wrote to this person twice but they've 
> never replied.  Any suggestions on what else I could do to make sure the 
> wrong info isn't out there about my family?
> Thanks,
> Terri Santos
>  
> Researching Sao Miguel Isl...Vila Franca, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Achada, 
> Agua d'Alto
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information posted by someone else!! What do I do?

[Terri]

I had the opportunity a while ago, to go on Ancestory.com thanks to a 
cousin of mine who has a subscription.  Looking at her tree and the 'hint' 
leaves that are flashing...i got curious to see what else they may have 
online about him.  Someone unknown to us is using my grandfathers picture, 
his name and my grandmothers name on their own tree.  This person on 
Ancestory has my grandfather being buried in California when he's actually 
buried here in Canada.  They also have him married to a second woman and 
that just is WRONG!!! I've already wrote to this person twice but they've 
never replied.  Any suggestions on what else I could do to make sure the 
wrong info isn't out there about my family?
Thanks,
Terri Santos
 
Researching Sao Miguel Isl...Vila Franca, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Achada, 
Agua d'Alto

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Happy 7th Birthday to the Azores Genealogy List!

[Terri]

Your passion for Geneology led to this.  You inspire me.  Your site has 
helped me find family members that I didn't even know I had. Thank you 
sooo much Cheri. Happy Birthday to the Azores Geneology group.  
Imagine!...if we all got together...this would be one heck of a party! :)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts and California

[Terri Hill]

Thanks for the info Celeste!

 


 From: celeste perry 
To: "azores@googlegroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts 
and California
  

Glad I confirmed some of your information.  I have found that sometimes the 
fraternal lodges have great genealogy information.  Digging it out of them can 
sometimes be difficult and that is why, when I had the opportunity, I created 
the death record database.  There is also one for the UPEC (men's lodge) that 
the FHC microfilmed. 
 
I think you might find additional information by using death certificates, 
etc.  My big breakthrough when researching my son-in-law's great-grandfather 
was the voter registration.  The census for 1890 did not exist and I was told 
if he had been naturalized and voted there was evidence of that.  
 
I found the original forms he signed each time he voted and on one of them it 
said he was born in Flores!!!  I looked at all the villages in Flores (thank 
God it is not a large island) and found him.  Talk about doing the victory 
dance, I did one.
 
The Perry name comes from my husband.  His Perry grandfather was Filipe Pereira 
da Silva, born in Lajes do Pico.  My husband and his father were born in RI and 
Felipe used Pereira, Silva and sometimes Perry as surnames in RI and CA.  If 
any of this sounds familiar, let me know and I can give you more info.
Celeste 
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 

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To: "azores@googlegroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts 
and California
  

Hello Celeste-- 
  
Your information is right-on.  Jerry Simpson is my 1/2 brother.  I note your 
last name is Perry--are we related I wonder?   I was born Linda Catron to 
Maximiliana Perry Leonard's daughter, Lena.  I was adopted at 5 years old and 
grew up in the Bay Area.  I searched my real family out 30 plus years ago and 
my search led me to Jerry and Maximilliana.  I am still very curious about 
my heritage from the Azores.   I have met some of Maximillian's family in the 
Visalia area--Mancebo's are cousins of mine.   
 


From: celeste perry 
To: "azores@googlegroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts 
and California


Hi Terri, 
   I am not sure this information will help you; however, it may give you more 
leads to look here for the information you need.   
   I looked in the death records for the U.P.P.E.C., a woman's Portugtuese 
Fraternal Lodge.  They have merged with 3 others and are now The Portuguese 
Fraternal Society of America.  In any case, the name "Maximilliana" was 
different enough that I searched for that first name in the database. 
   Here is what I found: 
Maximiliana Leonard Ross died Nov. 12, 1983, from cardiopulmonary arrest,  a 
death record exists, at the age of 80, in Visalia, CA (possibly an obit 
exists).  She was born 8/19/1903 in Lowell, MA.  Her father was Joseph Perry 
and her mother, Rose Bettencourt, both born in the Azores. 
She belonged to council #64 then 104 then 64 again.  This probably means she 
moved from Visalia to Artesia and back to Visalia.  You may find some 
information there that can lead you to the village/island in the Azores you 
seek. 
   The funeral palor was Hadley Funeral Chapel in Visalia (they may have some 
information) and she is buried at the Visalia District Cemetery, again there 
may be information there. 
  She had a grandson, Jerry J. Leonard Simpson and she was preceeded in death 
by her husbands: John Leonard, Peter Zaris and Sol Leon Rosa.  Her children 
were Helen Coito and Lena Hamond. 
   Hope this helps you.  Celeste  

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 


From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:40 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts and 
California


Repost for Terri Hill: 

I am researching my ancestry from Terceira.  My grandfather, John Leonardo (way 
too common a name for the Azores!) was born I believe Oct. 13, 1886--his 
mother's name was Souza (another way too common name for the Azores!).  John 
immigrated to Massachusetts in 1916; John died on Catalina Island in Los 
Angeles County, California in 1954.  I'm not finding anything on John or his 
parents other than his naturialization certificate and census material from 
Tulare County, California--can anyone suggest a direct Terceira site I can look 
at?  John's wife was Maximilliana Perry whose mother was Helen Augustirko or 
Helen Bettencourt Perry born 1878 also from the Azores and settled in 
Massachusetts.  Hope to hear from someone.  Thank

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts and California

[Terri Hill]

Hello Celeste--
 
Your information is right-on.  Jerry Simpson is my 1/2 brother.  I note your 
last name is Perry--are we related I wonder?   I was born Linda Catron to 
Maximiliana Perry Leonard's daughter, Lena.  I was adopted at 5 years old and 
grew up in the Bay Area.  I searched my real family out 30 plus years ago and 
my search led me to Jerry and Maximilliana.  I am still very curious about 
my heritage from the Azores.   I have met some of Maximillian's family in the 
Visalia area--Mancebo's are cousins of mine.  

From: celeste perry 
To: "azores@googlegroups.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts 
and California


Hi Terri,
   I am not sure this information will help you; however, it may give you more 
leads to look here for the information you need.  
   I looked in the death records for the U.P.P.E.C., a woman's Portugtuese 
Fraternal Lodge.  They have merged with 3 others and are now The Portuguese 
Fraternal Society of America.  In any case, the name "Maximilliana" was 
different enough that I searched for that first name in the database.
   Here is what I found:
Maximiliana Leonard Ross died Nov. 12, 1983, from cardiopulmonary arrest,  a 
death record exists, at the age of 80, in Visalia, CA (possibly an obit 
exists).  She was born 8/19/1903 in Lowell, MA.  Her father was Joseph Perry 
and her mother, Rose Bettencourt, both born in the Azores.
She belonged to council #64 then 104 then 64 again.  This probably means she 
moved from Visalia to Artesia and back to Visalia.  You may find some 
information there that can lead you to the village/island in the Azores you 
seek.
   The funeral palor was Hadley Funeral Chapel in Visalia (they may have some 
information) and she is buried at the Visalia District Cemetery, again there 
may be information there.
  She had a grandson, Jerry J. Leonard Simpson and she was preceeded in death 
by her husbands: John Leonard, Peter Zaris and Sol Leon Rosa.  Her children 
were Helen Coito and Lena Hamond.
   Hope this helps you.  Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:40 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leonardo, Souza from Terceira to Massachusetts and 
California


Repost for Terri Hill: 

I am researching my ancestry from Terceira.  My grandfather, John Leonardo (way 
too common a name for the Azores!) was born I believe Oct. 13, 1886--his 
mother's name was Souza (another way too common name for the Azores!).  John 
immigrated to Massachusetts in 1916; John died on Catalina Island in Los 
Angeles County, California in 1954.  I'm not finding anything on John or his 
parents other than his naturialization certificate and census material from 
Tulare County, California--can anyone suggest a direct Terceira site I can look 
at?  John's wife was Maximilliana Perry whose mother was Helen Augustirko or 
Helen Bettencourt Perry born 1878 also from the Azores and settled in 
Massachusetts.  Hope to hear from someone.  Thanks.
 
Terri Hill

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Writing the family history

[Terri Hill]

Greetings from Northern California--I am researching my ancestry from 
Terceira.  My grandfather, John Leonardo (way too common a name for the 
Azores!) was born I believe Oct. 13, 1886--his mother's name was Souza (another 
way too common name for the Azores!).  John immigrated to Massachusetts in 
1916; John died on Catalina Island in Los Angeles County, California in 1954.  
I'm not finding anything on John or his parents other than his naturialization 
certificate and census material from Tulare County, California--can anyone 
suggest a direct Terceira site I can look at?  John's wife was Maximilliana 
Perry whose mother was Helen Augustirko or Helen Bettencourt Perry born 1878 
also from the Azores and settled in Massachusetts.  Hope to hear from someone.  
Thanks.
 
Terri Hill
 


 From: Pam Santos 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Writing the family history
  

I agree Debbie and that is why I don't drink lol It passes on from generation 
to generation not worth taking the chance.


On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Debra Wolgemuth  wrote:

My maternal grandfather was an alcoholic; a horrible disease.  It was 
interesting to discover how many generations back the alcoholism went as I 
found an ancestor in the mid-1800's who was a prominent settler of a new town 
in Georgia, but died young of alcoholism.  You can track generation after 
generation to current day where the alcoholism still exists in the family 
lineage. 
> 
>On my husband's line, there is a genetic bicuspid value problem in the 
>family.  I've noted it in my research records so other family members can be 
>on the lookout for the genetic defect in their medical care.
> 
>There are other family stories that I have not been able to investigate and 
>certify, so I haven't added them to my research records.  One story was that 
>my Azorean grandmother's brother was killed by the Portguese mafia by being 
>thrown off the train between Bakersfield and Fresno.  Was there a Portuguese 
>mafia in Central California?  Was this a tall tale or true?  Who knows...the 
>research continues...
>
>Debbie Wolgemuth
>Researching Azoreans:  Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), 
>Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown)
>Immigrated to:  Merced, CA 
>
>
>>
>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:36:16 -0700
>From: lensi...@lenstudio.com
>To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Writing the family history
>
>
>I have been researching my grandfather in the hopes of writing a history for 
>the coming generations  and to satisfy the curiosity of my family about their 
>heritage.
>
>After some research, I find that the kindly old man that I knew as a child may 
>not have been all that nice.  Stories are starting to arise of abuse, 
>excessive drinking, and estrangement of his children.
>
>My father was a product of his second marriage and cared a lot for his 
>parents.  Vovoo was an old man of 75 when I was born, and I only knew a sweet, 
>kind old man who loved me.  Now, I am finding that the children of his first 
>marriage did not hold him in such high esteem.
>
>So, my question for the group is:  If you were putting together a family 
>history for the generations to come, how would you handle this?
>
>Most of the stories are hearsay as there is no one alive with direct 
>knowledge, but there must be something to them.
>
>I am inclined to be very honest in relating family stories, but I wonder how 
>some of you might handle this.
>
>Thanks for your input,
>
>Len
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Caetano de Lima

[Terri]

Hi JR..I  have a Jose Caetano Lima in my line.  I have his wife as Anna 
Querobina? and guessing their marriage for around 1817.  They had  a 
daughter named Marianna Felisberta Amalia born in Ponta Garca.  Could it be 
the same Jose Caetano Lima???
Terri 

On Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:39:23 UTC-4, JR wrote:

> I seem to have a faint recollection that someone was looking for Jose 
> Caetano de Lima of Vila Franca or Ponta Garca. If so, drop me line because 
> i found one in VF-SM, married to Brizida Quiteria da Conceicao, Jan 7- 1802.
>  
> JR
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptismal Record Translation

[Terri]

I am not familiar with the places or churches in Pico and I too have a
hard time reading records sometimes.
Here's my attempt:

Antonia, daughter of Domingos Pereira and his wife Agada Maria,
natural of ? Santa Barbara of the island of Pico
residents of ? Espirito Santo
Born on the 22nd of November 1762 at this church and was baptized on
the 28th of the mentioned month and year.
Godparents were Antonio Pinheiro son of Antonio Pinheiro and Thereza
Maria daughter of Manuel Silva Duarte? (i think)

Hope someone can help you more than I could.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: SM Vila Franca Do Campo, Sao Miguel

[Terri]

Hi Pam,
My fathers line of 'Dos Santos' goes back to Vila Franca.  I don't
think those names are in my family , but we MAY connect somewhere
down the line. Email me at terr...@rogers.com.  I'll let you know who
I have for about that period.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with identifying a name

[Terri]

What is the name of the church they were married in?  It looks a bit
to me like the father of the bride was named after the named saint of
this church.

On Apr 16, 10:02 pm, Altino Demelo  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am having a hard time trying to figure out the name of the father of the 
> bride on this marriage record.
>
> From what i can read, the grooms parents are João de Medeiros and Ana da 
> Costa. The brides parents are ? and Maria Furtado.
>
> Thanking everyone in advance.
>
>  Raimundo de Medeiros e Ursula de Viveiros.jpg
> 1063KViewDownload

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LDS Family History Library Resources

[Terri]

I have ordered quite a few microfilms from the LDS (recently i ordered
10 of them!!)
 Yes they are images of the original documents.  Some are easier to
read than others.
The beauty of seeing the records on the CCA site is that they are
always available online, clear and you can easily
jump back and forth from a baptism, marriage or death record at the
click of the mouse.
It takes patience to focus and roll through the microfilms which can
only be viewed AT your local
Family history center.  Even soordering the films have been a
great help to me and very valuable!  You just have
to think ahead of which films would hold the most needed info for you.
In the past I've ordered a film or two and then regretted it just
because I paid for an extended loan and only found one or two
documents that i REALLY wanted.
Good luck!

Terri Santos


On Mar 28, 4:51 pm, Lester  wrote:
> Does anybody have any experience using the microfilms available
> through the LDS Family History Libraries?  I have gone through the
> records available online at the CENTRO DE CONHECIMENTO DOS AÇORES  and
> recently an online database at Núcleo de Estudos de Populaçáo e
> Sociedade, Instituto de Ciéncias Sociais, Universidade do Minho, but
> Ineed to find records that are not available at those websites.  For
> example, a birth in Horta 1885 and a marriage that took place in Lajes
> do Pico in 1877.  According to the LDS website, there are films
> covering Horta during that timeframe, but do the films contain images
> of the original documents (like the CCA site)?? Thanks.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation

[Terri]

On the 5th day of the month of August of the
year of 1883 at this
church of Santa Barbara of
Doze Ribeiras  council and diocese of
Angra do Heroismo, I baptized solemnly
an individula of the feminine sex and whom
was given the name Maria and was born
in tis town at 3 'oclock in the morning on the
5th day of the current month of August , daughter
legitimate of Manoel Machado da Costa
worker, natural of Sao
Jorge of Doze Ribeiras, council and diocese
and of Delfina Augusta , occupation
domestica, natural of the town of
Santa Barbara,  received,
parishioners, residents
paternal (grandparents) Manoel Machado da
Costa and Maria Joaquina and maternal (grandparents)
of Manoel Cardozo?? da Costa and Maria Roza
Godfather , antonio Machado
da Costa , married, worker, and
Godmother, Maria Joaquina, single.
...


On Mar 27, 10:36 pm, bobcams...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi everyone I need some help with Translation of the attached docs.   The
> item number is 49
> Thanks
>
> Bob Camacho
> Researching the Island of Terceira for
> da  Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
> Researching the Island of Graciousa  for
> Reis
> Researching the Island of Madeira for
> Camacho
> Researching  Brazil for
> Evangelho
>
>  TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-B #49.jpg
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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site....Lagoa, Sao Miguel records are up!

[Terri]

Just finished checking...and finally some records are up again for the
concelho of Lagoa on Sao Miguel Island .
Yeah!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Moniz Achadinha/Da Silva Port Formoso/Tavares Lagoa/Medeiros Faja De Baixo/Medeiros Ponta Garca/Pacheco Ribeira Grande

[Terri]

Hi Pam...I have a couple ancestors named Santos and Santos Arraial
from Vila Franca.  What are the names you have? Maybe we'll make a
connection.

Terri

On Feb 24, 11:09 pm, Pam Santos  wrote:
> Is anyone researching Moniz in Nossa Senhora Do Rosario, Achadinha, Sao
> Miguel, Azores? I am looking for information on Jose Moniz born abt 1765 he
> married Rosa Ignacio Da Silva she was born abt 1755 in Port Formoso. His
> parents Manuel Cardoza and Maria Moniz.  Her Parents Joao Da Silva and
> Maria De Ponte. Joao's parents Manuel Da Silva and Lucia Da Costa.
>
> Also researching Manuel Tavares born abt 1747 married Maria Da Silva in
> Lagoa, Sao Miguel on 07 Jan 1777. Manuel's parents Francisco Tavares and
> Antonia Gouveia.
>
> I also have a Manuel Medeiros born abt 1834 Nossa Senhora dos Anjos,Faja De
> Baixo, Ponta Delgado, Sao Miguel, Azores who was married to Victoria De
> Jesus, Manuel's parents were Francisco De Medeiros and Antonia De Jesus.
> and looking for Mariano Ignacio Medeiros born Jan 1864 Nossa Senhora da
> Piedade , Ponta Garca , Villa de Franco , Sao Miguel, his parents Mariano
> Ignacio de Medeiros and Ana Emila Da Conceicao
>
> Cabral in Ribeira Grande, Silva in Lagoa, Santos and Medeiros in Vila
> Franca Do Campo and Manuel Bento Pacheco born 1849 in Maia, Ribeira Grande,
> Sao Miguel
>
> Pam

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Geneology software

[Terri]

I like Legacy Family Tree.  I used the standard free version for
almost 3 years and decided to upgrade this Christmas because there was
a sale.  Maybe I didn't have to since the free version was more than
enough for a beginner like me. I'm not familiar with the other
programs but have been able to see my cousins Ancestory tree. I like
that fact that she could log in from anywhere...but i prefer the
layout that Legacy has.

Terri Santos
researching places- Agua d'Alto, Vila Franca, Agua de Pau, Ribeira
Cha, and Ginetes on Sao Miguel Island, Acores
researching names-Pimentel, Santos, Andrade, Macaroco, Andre, Da
Costa,Soares, Almeida, De Medeiros

On Feb 13, 9:03 am, Rich  wrote:
> What is the best geneology software?  I would like to she your pros
> and cons. Rich

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal

[Terri]

Feliz Natal to EVERYBODY.  Blessings to you and your families. Thanks
to all who helped me again this year to move forward with my
geneology.
Eat, drink and be merry!

Terri (Teresinha) de Jesus Pimentel Santos
Researching; Agua d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo, Ribeira Cha, Agua de
Pau..


On Dec 24, 10:01 am, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal to everyone on this list!
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help needed to read child's name, please.

[Terri]

I also see that it could be Luiz.  If you take a look at the word
'batizado' the squiggly letter 'z' sort of looks the same as the
letter at the end of that childs name.

On Dec 7, 11:15 pm, carab...@aol.com wrote:
> I can't read the name of the child on the baptismal record. I was wondering
>  if anyone on the list could help me. The child's name is the first word. I
>  believe it is a male child. His father is Francisco Jose Pacheco , his
> mother is  Victoria Cherubina (Querubina is the way it is spelled on some of
> the other  children's baptisms.
>
> I read the birth date as 30 Dec 1855 & the baptismal date as 13 Jan  1856.
> The godfather was Jose Ricardo Paiva.
>
> If anyone can help me read the child's name, I'd really appreciate it.
> Could the child's first name be "Paiva"? I haven't seen Paiva as a first name
> but I guess it could be?
> Thanks,
> Sherry
>
>  male, 30 dec 1855, 13 jan 1856.jpg
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Microfilm headings- Legitimacoes? and Reconhecimentos?

[Terri]

Thank you Richard and Cheri. I had a feeling that's what the
Portuguese words meant but i had to confirm what they mean in regards
to records. Tonight...i search! :)

On Nov 8, 3:06 pm, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Terri,
>
> I think reconhecimento is about the same as legitimatization.  Someone is
> recognizing their child that they had.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada

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