[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-06 Thread celeste perry
Yes, Marie, you never know what you will find everytime you make a turn in 
genealogy.  Happy Easter and also happy hunting.  Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
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Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 12:54 PM



This is getting interesting.  I just discovered that ESTEVAO ROSA b. 1821 in S. 
Mateus is the 
4th great uncle of the wife of JOSE MACHADO SOARES (my grandfather).  So he is 
an ancestor of my grandmother!


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-06 Thread Seekgene
This is getting interesting.  I just discovered that ESTEVAO ROSA b.  1821 in 
S. Mateus is the 
4th great uncle of the wife of JOSE MACHADO SOARES (my grandfather).   So he 
is an ancestor of my grandmother!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Macedo

Hell All,
Celeste, your file oped o.k for me. thanks.
Pam you would have at least some of the same Brazil people as I have.
I was lucky and came across a site http://www.jcultura.com.br/gde_fam/
this has given me a wealth of information. I recognised person no 1.
on this family tree as an uncle (g.g.x?) that my aunt had told me
about when i was a child. since then I have found several definite
people on the site. one who would tie in with you is Estevao Rosa b.
1721 S. Mateus m Maria Antonia. It seems they went to Brazil
ESTEVA ROSA B. S. MATEUS 1721
|
MARIA TERESA DE JESUS (PEREIRA MACEDO) personal communication with Rod
Brum de Silva.
|
ANA MARIA DA ASSUNCAO
|
FRANCISCO PERIERA DE MACEDO +1888 (info on wikapedia) (1st baron &
viscount of Serro Formosa).
FRANCISCA ROMANA DE MACEDO 26.1.1796 - 11.8.1869
|
MARIA JOSE DE MACEDO COUTO 18.22- 8.12.1889 m JOAO EVANGELISTA DE
NEGREIROS SAYAO LOBATO
 
(Vicount Sabara)
FRANCISCO DE PAULA DE NEGREIROS SAYAO LOBATO  Chief justice of Brazil.

this is just some of what i have been able to determine. I also have
other info.
So you may be able to find some of your line and so might Bob as there
are a number of Evangelistas. i know that there are other Azoreans
sprinkled in all this lot, e.g
 MANOEL DE MACEDO MADRUGA b. Pico d.5.6.1810  R.S.
|
MANOEL DE MACEDO BRUM SILVEIRA b.1760 PICO d.16.11.1816 R.S

Unfortunately this site is difficult to navigate and it has taken me
ages to piece things together. I have lots more but am out of time
now.

I hope it is of interest and fills some holes. I just wish I spoke
Portugese.

regards,
christine







On Apr 4, 2:56 am, fuji...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Hi Christine,
>
> Ignes Pereira Macedo and Francisco Costa Goulart are also my 5th great-
> grandparents on my grandmother's side.  My line is from their daughter
> Rita Inacia Macedo who is Catharina sister.  Like you, I also can't
> find anything about Francisco or Apolonia.
>
> Francisco Costa Goulart is also on my grandfathers line, when he was
> married to Catherina Dias Machado.  Their daughter Maria Gularte
> married Manuel Costa Medeiros in Candelaria in 1721.
>
> I'm also interested in the Brazil information.  I'm just starting my
> Step-Dad's family.  His mother Ana Jesus was born in Brazil and moved
> with her parents Antonio Silveira Machado and Ana Jesus to
> Ribeirinha,Terceira.  Ana married Antone Machado Coelho in Ribeirinha
> before they immigrated to California.    I have very little
> information because my dad's mother died when he was a young boy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pam Coelho
> fuji...@sbcglobal.net
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-05 Thread Seekgene
Hello Christine,
Sorry to take so long to get back to you but I work and have a lot of  
commitments.  My Macedos are from Pico also. They are from  Lajes.   Here's 
what I 
have:
 
Jose MACHADO SOARES b. 1881
Parents were:  JOSE MACHADO (1855) and MARIANA ROSA AVILA (1854)
 
MARIANA ROSA AVILA was the daughter of:JOSE MACEDO EVANGELHO PORTUGAL (  
1820) and MARIA ROSA ROSARIO (1824)
 
JOSE MACEDO EVANGELHO PORTUGAL was the son of MANUEL MACEDO EVANGELHO  (1784) 
and CATRINA VICENCIA (1785)  Other children of this union also  carrying the 
MACEDO name included:
MANUEL MACEDO MANCEBO, (1808); CATARINA VICENCIA MACEDO, (1815); JOSE  MACEDO 
EVANGELHO, (1820); FRANCISCO MACEDO EVANGELHO, 1822).
 
MANUEL MACEDO EVANGELHO (1784) was the son of MANUEL SILVEIRA (1746) and  
JOSEFA FRANCISCA.  Other children of this union also using the MACEDO name  
included:  FRANCISCO MACHADO MACEDO (1777); CATARINA MACEDO (1780) and  MARIA 
MACEDO ASCENCAO (1792).
 
MANUEL SILVEIRA (1746) was the son of MANUEL ROSA EVANGELHO and AGUEDA  
FRANCISCA.  One of their children used the MACEDO name.  She was MARIA  MACEDO 
(1742).
 
MANUEL ROSA EVANGELO was the son of ANTONIO FERREIRA EVANGELHO and MARIA  
RITA.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-03 Thread fujigen

Hi Christine,

Ignes Pereira Macedo and Francisco Costa Goulart are also my 5th great-
grandparents on my grandmother's side.  My line is from their daughter
Rita Inacia Macedo who is Catharina sister.  Like you, I also can't
find anything about Francisco or Apolonia.

Francisco Costa Goulart is also on my grandfathers line, when he was
married to Catherina Dias Machado.  Their daughter Maria Gularte
married Manuel Costa Medeiros in Candelaria in 1721.

I'm also interested in the Brazil information.  I'm just starting my
Step-Dad's family.  His mother Ana Jesus was born in Brazil and moved
with her parents Antonio Silveira Machado and Ana Jesus to
Ribeirinha,Terceira.  Ana married Antone Machado Coelho in Ribeirinha
before they immigrated to California.I have very little
information because my dad's mother died when he was a young boy.

Regards,

Pam Coelho
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-02 Thread celeste perry
I don't know Chris.  These names came up in connection with my husbnd, Bob's, 
paternal grandfather born in Pico.  Since they are not direct lines to Bob, I 
don't have any other information on them.  
 
There is a possibility that they could have been in Pico, I just thought if you 
exhausted all avenues, you might try looking for them in Sao Mateus, Pico.  You 
could try the University of Minhos site since it is on line.  Celeste, Hayward, 
CA

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Thu, 4/2/09, Chris Macedo  wrote:

Celeste, is anything at all known of the history of the Fonseca
family. Could they originally have come from Terceira? My aunt told me
the family originally came from Portugal to Terceira.


On Apr 2, 7:29 am, celeste perry  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>    I have an Agueda Ascencao, born June 4, 1696 in Sao Mateus, Pico and
married Aug. 9, 1711 in Sao Mateus,Pico, to Domingos Rosa who is a brother of
Manuel Rosa Pais, born April 15, 1685, in Sao Mateo, Pico who is an ancestor of
my husband's paternal grandfather, Felipe Perreira da Silva, born in Lajes
do Pico Feb. 5, 1887.   
>    Agueda Ascencao is the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca, born Sao
Mateus, Pico, and died there in 1718 (according to the UM site) and Apolonia
Candeias also born in Sao Mateus and died 1718 (according to the UM site). 
>    You might look in Sao Mateus, Pico for your family.



  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-02 Thread BOBCAMSCPW
Hi Christine
Most of my family are from the Island of Terceira.  The story  that was told 
to me was my G-grandfather family moved to and from Terceira to  Brazil for 
work, he and maybe one other brother or sister was born in  Brazil.  I was told 
my G-grandfather Antonio Machado Evangelho was born in  Brazil and moved back 
to Terceira at the age of 2 years old, he grew up in the  village of 
Ribeirinha,Terceira, he left the village at the age of about 18 to 20  years 
old and 
move to the USA, and lived and moved around in the State of CA and  died in 
Santa Cruz, CA.  his wife, my G-grandmother was also from the  village of 
Ribeirinha and moved to the USA at the age of 17 and married my  G-grandfather. 
 Now 
for the name of Evangelho yes it could have been change  as it was changed a 
few times in the USA. When he came to America he was listed  as Antonio Machado 
Evangecho and when he was in the states he had to register  for the Army for 
WW1 and it was put down as Antonio Machado Evanglieo and when  he got his 
worked her and got his SS# he was listed rest of his life as  Evangelo, I did 
find 
a brother that come to this country too and he was listed  as Jose Machado 
Evangelho and there are many Evangelho in CA area.  Also I  am not that I know 
of 
related to the Pico Macedos.  But as someone once  stated either on this site 
or another one that we are all related some how or  another if we came from 
the Islands.
Thanks
 
 
Bob Camacho
Researching the Island of Terceira for
da  Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
Researching the Island of Graciousa  for
Reis
Researching the Island of Madeira for
Camacho
Researching  Brazil for
Evangelho
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Macedo

Hello Maria Elena, Celeste, Nancy Jean and Bob
Thank you all so very much for your information.It will take me a
while to digest it. Bob who were your Pico Macedos?
I have noticed that the names seem to change in Brazil. could
Evangelho have become Evangelista or are they different.
Celeste, is anything at all known of the history of the Fonseca
family. Could they originally have come from Terceira? My aunt told me
the family originally came from Portugal to Terceira.
Maybe I will yet get a match to the Macedo DNA my cousin Peter Macedo
supplied.  Thank you all again. I do just love what this site turns
up, and I will follow it up.
very best regards to all,
christine

On Apr 2, 7:29 am, celeste perry  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>    I have an Agueda Ascencao, born June 4, 1696 in Sao Mateus, Pico and 
> married Aug. 9, 1711 in Sao Mateus,Pico, to Domingos Rosa who is a brother of 
> Manuel Rosa Pais, born April 15, 1685, in Sao Mateo, Pico who is an ancestor 
> of my husband's paternal grandfather, Felipe Perreira da Silva, born in Lajes 
> do Pico Feb. 5, 1887.   
>    Agueda Ascencao is the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca, born Sao 
> Mateus, Pico, and died there in 1718 (according to the UM site) and Apolonia 
> Candeias also born in Sao Mateus and died 1718 (according to the UM site). 
>    You might look in Sao Mateus, Pico for your family.
>
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> --- On Wed, 4/1/09, Chris Macedo  wrote:
>
> From: Chris Macedo 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> To: "Azores Genealogy" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 6:02 AM
>
> Hello Nancy Jean,
> Yes, I am so pleased to find another cousin, Ines Pereira Macedo is my
> g.g.g.g.g.grandmother and the others are her children and
> grandchildren as I guess you know. Catharina Nascimento (Pereira
> Macedo) is also the daughter of Ines Pereira Macedo and is my direct
> line but the name has been entered diferently in various databases and
> is hard to track. The name of Ines's parents appears in a couple of
> the databases as Francisco Lopes da Fonseca and Apolonia Candias, both
> died In 1717. they do not appear in the Candelaria database but were
> in the Castelo Branco database,
> This is where the Macedo line vanishes and my aunt told me the family
> came from Portugal but I'm sure there were relatives in the Azores.  I
> would love to hear anything you can tell me.
>
> best regards.
>
> Christine
>
> On Apr 1, 3:04 am, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:> Hi Christine,
>
> > I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line.
>
> Perhaps there is a connection.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764
>
> > son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros
>
> > b.1718
>
> > also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748
>
> > son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716
>
> > Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart,
> 1-15-1710
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Nancy Jean Baptiste
>
> > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700
> > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> > > From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com
>
> > > Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your
> > > Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao
> > > Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the
> > > mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had
> relatives in
> > > the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there.
>
> > > Christine
>
> > > On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
> > > > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
> > > > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make
> dinner for $10 or
> > > > less.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-01 Thread celeste perry
Hi Chris,
   I have an Agueda Ascencao, born June 4, 1696 in Sao Mateus, Pico and married 
Aug. 9, 1711 in Sao Mateus,Pico, to Domingos Rosa who is a brother of Manuel 
Rosa Pais, born April 15, 1685, in Sao Mateo, Pico who is an ancestor of 
my husband's paternal grandfather, Felipe Perreira da Silva, born in Lajes do 
Pico Feb. 5, 1887.    
   Agueda Ascencao is the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca, born Sao Mateus, 
Pico, and died there in 1718 (according to the UM site) and Apolonia Candeias 
also born in Sao Mateus and died 1718 (according to the UM site).  
   You might look in Sao Mateus, Pico for your family.


Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Chris Macedo  wrote:

From: Chris Macedo 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 6:02 AM

Hello Nancy Jean,
Yes, I am so pleased to find another cousin, Ines Pereira Macedo is my
g.g.g.g.g.grandmother and the others are her children and
grandchildren as I guess you know. Catharina Nascimento (Pereira
Macedo) is also the daughter of Ines Pereira Macedo and is my direct
line but the name has been entered diferently in various databases and
is hard to track. The name of Ines's parents appears in a couple of
the databases as Francisco Lopes da Fonseca and Apolonia Candias, both
died In 1717. they do not appear in the Candelaria database but were
in the Castelo Branco database,
This is where the Macedo line vanishes and my aunt told me the family
came from Portugal but I'm sure there were relatives in the Azores.  I
would love to hear anything you can tell me.

best regards.

Christine

On Apr 1, 3:04 am, nancy jean baptiste 
wrote:
> Hi Christine,
>
> I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line.
Perhaps there is a connection.
>
> Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764
>
> son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros
>
> b.1718
>
> also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748
>
> son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716
>
> Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart,
1-15-1710
>
> Regards,
>
> Nancy Jean Baptiste
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700
> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> > From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> > To: Azores@googlegroups.com
>
> > Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your
> > Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao
> > Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the
> > mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had
relatives in
> > the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there.
>
> > Christine
>
> > On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote:
> > > Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
> > > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
> > > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make
dinner for $10 or
> > > less.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-01 Thread nancy jean baptiste

Hi Chris,

 

I enjoy this group and the avenue it provides for finding "kin" as we say in 
the south! In our case I guess we're 1/2 cousins! Ines Pereira Macedo was the 
2nd wife of Francisco Costa Goulart. Your grandmother, Catarina Nascimento 
was their 1st child of 8. 

Born 12-16-1710 her sister, Rita Inacia Macedo, married Jose Rodrigues 
Medeiros, b. 8-13-1718, son of Joao Rodrigues Serpa, b. 2-21-1683 and Ana 
Medeiros, b.9-18-1689...They had 8 childrenJose was the brother of 
Josefa Maria Conceicao,b. 4-20-1721, she's my gggarndmother! (on my 
grandmothers side)So there's that connection by marriage..but also, on my 
grandmothers side

I'm related by the 1st wife of Francisco Costa Goulart, her name was

 Catarina Dias Machado, and she had 2 children with Francisco, the second was, 
Beatriz Santo Antonio,b. 2-12-1706, she was also  ggrandmother on my 
grandmothers side but to my grandmothers husband..(my grandfathers line was da 
Castro)

 

It's all very confusing in that line because there were so many cousin 
marriages..

 

My ggrandmother, Ludovina Felizarda da Castro was 1st cousin to her husband, 
Manuel Furtado Cardoza...

 

I guess it's a good thing they left Candelaria for a little outside DNA when 
they did!

 

I hope this isn't too difficult to read,

Nancy Jean Baptiste (Baptista)
 
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:02:05 -0700
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Hello Nancy Jean,
> Yes, I am so pleased to find another cousin, Ines Pereira Macedo is my
> g.g.g.g.g.grandmother and the others are her children and
> grandchildren as I guess you know. Catharina Nascimento (Pereira
> Macedo) is also the daughter of Ines Pereira Macedo and is my direct
> line but the name has been entered diferently in various databases and
> is hard to track. The name of Ines's parents appears in a couple of
> the databases as Francisco Lopes da Fonseca and Apolonia Candias, both
> died In 1717. they do not appear in the Candelaria database but were
> in the Castelo Branco database,
> This is where the Macedo line vanishes and my aunt told me the family
> came from Portugal but I'm sure there were relatives in the Azores. I
> would love to hear anything you can tell me.
> 
> best regards.
> 
> Christine
> 
> On Apr 1, 3:04 am, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:
> > Hi Christine,
> >
> > I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line. Perhaps 
> > there is a connection.
> >
> > Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764
> >
> > son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros
> >
> > b.1718
> >
> > also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748
> >
> > son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716
> >
> > Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart, 
> > 1-15-1710
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nancy Jean Baptiste
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700
> > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> > > From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> >
> > > Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your
> > > Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao
> > > Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the
> > > mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had relatives in
> > > the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there.
> >
> > > Christine
> >
> > > On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
> > > > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
> > > > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for 
> > > > $10 or
> > > > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
> >
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-01 Thread Mario Ferreira

Most of the immigrants that are Portuguese in USA, are from the Azores. Anytime 
you ask one where you from? They will tell you Portugal. Even today my family 
members and friends going to visit,they allways say they are going to Portugal. 
Many of them never even been to mainland Portugal, one thousand miles away.









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> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:02:05 -0700
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Hello Nancy Jean,
> Yes, I am so pleased to find another cousin, Ines Pereira Macedo is my
> g.g.g.g.g.grandmother and the others are her children and
> grandchildren as I guess you know. Catharina Nascimento (Pereira
> Macedo) is also the daughter of Ines Pereira Macedo and is my direct
> line but the name has been entered diferently in various databases and
> is hard to track. The name of Ines's parents appears in a couple of
> the databases as Francisco Lopes da Fonseca and Apolonia Candias, both
> died In 1717. they do not appear in the Candelaria database but were
> in the Castelo Branco database,
> This is where the Macedo line vanishes and my aunt told me the family
> came from Portugal but I'm sure there were relatives in the Azores. I
> would love to hear anything you can tell me.
> 
> best regards.
> 
> Christine
> 
> On Apr 1, 3:04 am, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:
> > Hi Christine,
> >
> > I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line. Perhaps 
> > there is a connection.
> >
> > Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764
> >
> > son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros
> >
> > b.1718
> >
> > also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748
> >
> > son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716
> >
> > Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart, 
> > 1-15-1710
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nancy Jean Baptiste
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700
> > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> > > From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> >
> > > Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your
> > > Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao
> > > Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the
> > > mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had relatives in
> > > the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there.
> >
> > > Christine
> >
> > > On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
> > > > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
> > > > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for 
> > > > $10 or
> > > > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
> >
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-04-01 Thread Chris Macedo

Hello Nancy Jean,
Yes, I am so pleased to find another cousin, Ines Pereira Macedo is my
g.g.g.g.g.grandmother and the others are her children and
grandchildren as I guess you know. Catharina Nascimento (Pereira
Macedo) is also the daughter of Ines Pereira Macedo and is my direct
line but the name has been entered diferently in various databases and
is hard to track. The name of Ines's parents appears in a couple of
the databases as Francisco Lopes da Fonseca and Apolonia Candias, both
died In 1717. they do not appear in the Candelaria database but were
in the Castelo Branco database,
This is where the Macedo line vanishes and my aunt told me the family
came from Portugal but I'm sure there were relatives in the Azores.  I
would love to hear anything you can tell me.

best regards.

Christine

On Apr 1, 3:04 am, nancy jean baptiste 
wrote:
> Hi Christine,
>
> I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line. Perhaps 
> there is a connection.
>
> Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764
>
> son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros
>
> b.1718
>
> also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748
>
> son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716
>
> Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart, 
> 1-15-1710
>
> Regards,
>
> Nancy Jean Baptiste
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700
> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> > From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> > To: Azores@googlegroups.com
>
> > Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your
> > Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao
> > Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the
> > mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had relatives in
> > the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there.
>
> > Christine
>
> > On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote:
> > > Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
> > > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
> > > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for 
> > > $10 or
> > > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-03-31 Thread Maria Lima
*Hello Christine:

Regarding Jose Andrade Macedo, your grandfather who went to the goldfields
in Australia:  I searched the  Public Records Office Victoria website under
digitized records - Here's what I got.  I am sending you the link.  If this
is him, it would be a beginning to find time frame when he was there.  Also,
I am familiar with the port information.  F means the ship left from a
foreign port and B is British port.  But I don't know what the N means.  But
I'm sure we can find out.  He left from Brazil.

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp

As you see, there is a J. A. Macedo, age 34 and 3 other Macedo's listed (one
I think could be his wife?)  This could be a start to finding out more about
him.  The year seemed a little out of the range of when people were going to
the goldfiends.  His year of travel in  1891 seemed a bit late to me (but
who knows).  My ancestors were in the 1850's.

The next link I'm sending is the passengers who were on the ship that my
husband's ancestors were on, The Water Lily (Waterlily) in  November 1853.
These were all people  from the Azores and there are Perreira's as well as
an "DANDRADE"These people not only knew each other, but I' finding out
that that many times, they were related.  I'll explain more below.

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp?upto=1&cont=yes&month_to=11&year_to=0

(I was surprised how many ancestors went to the Goldfields of Australia from
the Azores.  By the way, I received tremendous help from members of the
goldfields list in Australia.  Maybe you already belong to that.  Let me
know if you need the link.)

You said your grandfather left his son in New Zealand and traveled with his
daughter to Argentina.  This is what happened to my husband's 2 great
grandfathers.   The father left them there in Australia and returned to the
Azores.  (I suppose he set them up in business; this is one of those
mysteries that I can't figure out regarding them.) They both eventually
returned to the Azores.

My husband's 2 great grandfathers were registered  on the Waterlily as being
16 and 19 when they boarded the ship, and they went with their father, A. J.
de Lima.  I also discovered that A. J. de Lima's brother in law, J. J.
Borges was also on the ship.  Many of the other names also seem like names
in the ancestry but I can't prove it yet.  I only knew the J. J.'s because I
happened to know their full names and found articles with their names  in
the Creswick and Clunes Register and Advertiser (I think that was the local
newspaper and the de Lima's were listed more than 18 times.  I sent away and
got all the articles relative to them and could almost write a little
biography about them.  Pretty cool to reach back in time and almost see a
movie of their lives in the goldfiends.

I do hope you can find out more about Jose Andrade Macedo.  (P. S.  I
recently discovered the name Andrade in my research.)

I will forward your email to  my daughter in law her and her mom.

Hopefully this is helpful.  Regards,

Maria Elena
*


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Chris Macedo  wrote:

>
> Hi Maria,
> I would be most grateful if you could talk to your daughter in law for
> me.
>
>  Also I noticed in one of your previous postings that you had
> ancestors who went to the N.S.W. goldfields in Australia. My
> G.Grandfather  Jose Andrade Macedo also went to the N.S.W. goldfields
> after visiting relatives in Brazil. I don't know exactly when, but I
> could probably find out. He then went to New Zealand and after that to
> Argentina. He left a son in N.Z. (my grandfather) but took his
> granddaughter to Argentina along with his daughters. It is this family
> in Argentina that I am going to visit, before going on to Rio.
> At least some of the realitives in Brazil were from the Azores ( at
> least one from Pico that I know of ) and some from Sao Miguel and a
> descendant was Francisco Pereira Macedo 1806-1888, 1st Viscount of
> Serro Formosa. His daughter was Maria Jose De Macedo Couto 1822 -1889
> (from Sao Miguel I think). Maria married Joao Evangelista de Negreiros
> Sayao Lobato, Viscount Sabara.
> Their son was Francisco de Paulo Negrois Sayao Lobato, Cheif Justice
> of Brazil. There is very little else I know, Does any of this tie in
> with your daughter in law?.
> Another ancestor is Nicolau Pereira do Campos Verugiro, died 1859, who
> was born in Macedo de Cavaleiros in Portugal
> and became a Brazilian senator.
>
> Christine
>
> On Mar 30, 12:31 am, Maria Lima  wrote:
> > Hi, Christine,
> >
> > I am writing because I noticed your Macedo name and the Azores to Brazil,
> > connection with my daughter in law.  She is from Rio and is a Macedo on
> the
> > maternal side.
> >
> > I will forward your email to her.   Perhaps they might know where you
> could
> > research.   or hopefully there could be some connection.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Maria Elena
> >
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-03-31 Thread nancy jean baptiste

Hi Christine,

 

I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line. Perhaps 
there is a connection.

 

Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764

son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros

b.1718

 

also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748

son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716

 

Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart, 
1-15-1710

 

Regards,

Nancy Jean Baptiste
 
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
> From: gandc...@bigpond.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your
> Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao
> Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the
> mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had relatives in
> the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there.
> 
> Christine
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote:
> > Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
> > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
> > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for $10 
> > or
> > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
> > 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-03-30 Thread BOBCAMSCPW
If you do, please let me know.  I am still looking for my  G-Grandfather's 
birth records and his parent's marriage records.
Thanks and good luck
 
 
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2009-03-30 Thread Chris Macedo

Bob, Thank you, I will use your sites and also keep in mind what you
have said about researchers. I will see if I can get any reliable
contacts with researchers while I am there.
thanks again.

christine

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>
> I to have been looking for way to find information on family members as my  
> Evangelho and da Costa members to Brazil and I have had family member born 
> and  
> married there but have not had any luck on locating people to help.  I was  
> told some time ago there was few people that do research in Rio de Janeiro  
> area.  I have e-mail this person several times but have had not reply  from 
> them.
>   This persons address is _dal...@orchidstudium.com_
> (mailto:dal...@orchidstudium.com)  and he  provided me some information on 
> church down in Rio, here is
> that information;  This is a link to the church you look for:
>
> _http://www.outeirodagloria.org.br/historia.htm_
> (http://www.outeirodagloria.org.br/historia.htm)
>
> The record books must be at the archdiocesis archives of Rio de  Janeiro.
> Address: Rua dos Arcos, 54 - Lapa
> 20230-060 - Rio de Janeiro, RJ  - phone 2240-2669
> Diretor: Côn. Aroldo da Silva Ribeiro
> Arquivista:  Aloysio de Oliveira Martins Filho
> de segunda a quarta-feira de 14:00h às  17:00h.
>
> _http://www.arquidiocese.org.br/_(http://www.arquidiocese.org.br/)
>
> Again my problem I had is that no one would reply to me after several  
> e-mails and writing and like you I do not speak or write Portuguese  either.  
> There
> is also a Brazilian Genealogy group, but the down  side with the group is they
> write everything in Portuguese, if you like I  can provide you the
> information on there link.
> Thanks
>
> Bob Camacho
> Researching the Island of Terceira for
> da  Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
> Researching the Island of Graciousa  for
> Reis
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2009-03-30 Thread Chris Macedo

Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your
Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao
Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the
mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had relatives in
the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there.

Christine


On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
> I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
> **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for $10 or
> less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
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2009-03-30 Thread Chris Macedo

Hi Maria,
I would be most grateful if you could talk to your daughter in law for
me.

 Also I noticed in one of your previous postings that you had
ancestors who went to the N.S.W. goldfields in Australia. My
G.Grandfather  Jose Andrade Macedo also went to the N.S.W. goldfields
after visiting relatives in Brazil. I don't know exactly when, but I
could probably find out. He then went to New Zealand and after that to
Argentina. He left a son in N.Z. (my grandfather) but took his
granddaughter to Argentina along with his daughters. It is this family
in Argentina that I am going to visit, before going on to Rio.
At least some of the realitives in Brazil were from the Azores ( at
least one from Pico that I know of ) and some from Sao Miguel and a
descendant was Francisco Pereira Macedo 1806-1888, 1st Viscount of
Serro Formosa. His daughter was Maria Jose De Macedo Couto 1822 -1889
(from Sao Miguel I think). Maria married Joao Evangelista de Negreiros
Sayao Lobato, Viscount Sabara.
Their son was Francisco de Paulo Negrois Sayao Lobato, Cheif Justice
of Brazil. There is very little else I know, Does any of this tie in
with your daughter in law?.
Another ancestor is Nicolau Pereira do Campos Verugiro, died 1859, who
was born in Macedo de Cavaleiros in Portugal
and became a Brazilian senator.

Christine

On Mar 30, 12:31 am, Maria Lima  wrote:
> Hi, Christine,
>
> I am writing because I noticed your Macedo name and the Azores to Brazil,
> connection with my daughter in law.  She is from Rio and is a Macedo on the
> maternal side.
>
> I will forward your email to her.   Perhaps they might know where you could
> research.   or hopefully there could be some connection.
>
> Regards,
>
> Maria Elena
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2009-03-29 Thread Seekgene
Hi Maria Elena & Christine,
I also have MACEDO'S from Pico.
**Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for $10 or 
less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)

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2009-03-29 Thread Seekgene
Also researching EVANGELHO and DA COSTA only they are from  Pico.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-03-29 Thread BOBCAMSCPW
Hi Christine
 
I to have been looking for way to find information on family members as my  
Evangelho and da Costa members to Brazil and I have had family member born and  
married there but have not had any luck on locating people to help.  I was  
told some time ago there was few people that do research in Rio de Janeiro  
area.  I have e-mail this person several times but have had not reply  from 
them. 
  This persons address is _dal...@orchidstudium.com_ 
(mailto:dal...@orchidstudium.com)  and he  provided me some information on 
church down in Rio, here is 
that information;  This is a link to the church you look for:

_http://www.outeirodagloria.org.br/historia.htm_ 
(http://www.outeirodagloria.org.br/historia.htm) 

The record books must be at the archdiocesis archives of Rio de  Janeiro.
Address: Rua dos Arcos, 54 - Lapa
20230-060 - Rio de Janeiro, RJ  - phone 2240-2669
Diretor: Côn. Aroldo da Silva Ribeiro
Arquivista:  Aloysio de Oliveira Martins Filho
de segunda a quarta-feira de 14:00h às  17:00h.

_http://www.arquidiocese.org.br/_ (http://www.arquidiocese.org.br/) 
 
Again my problem I had is that no one would reply to me after several  
e-mails and writing and like you I do not speak or write Portuguese  either.  
There 
is also a Brazilian Genealogy group, but the down  side with the group is they 
write everything in Portuguese, if you like I  can provide you the 
information on there link.
Thanks


Bob Camacho
Researching the Island of Terceira for
da  Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
Researching the Island of Graciousa  for
Reis
Researching the Island of Madeira for
Camacho
Researching  Brazil for
Evangelho

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil

2009-03-29 Thread Maria Lima
Hi, Christine,

I am writing because I noticed your Macedo name and the Azores to Brazil,
connection with my daughter in law.  She is from Rio and is a Macedo on the
maternal side.

I will forward your email to her.   Perhaps they might know where you could
research.   or hopefully there could be some connection.

Regards,

Maria Elena

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