BBEdit Manual 14.5

[Bucky Junior]

It has been a while. The last time I read through the full manual was about ten 
major versions ago. I thought it was time to read through it “cover” to “cover.”

Obviously, I’m finding things that I didn’t know in depth from all the updates, 
additions, etc.

I have to admit that I’m not a heavy duty user but I do have BBEdit open on my 
computer all the time and it is my go-to for many things. What would I do if I 
didn’t have BBEdit? I know that I would be at a loss.

Thanks to all the designers, engineers, programmers, and those who have added 
value to the program. Included in my thanks are many of the contributors to 
this mailing list who help with others’ programming problems.

Bucky

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Re: How to show number of corrections in bbedit?

[Bucky Junior]

One place to try is System Preferences -> Notifications -> BBEdit.


> On Apr 24, 2023, at 12:04 PM, Omar KN  wrote:
> 
> Greetings and good day,
> 
> This was already asked some years ago, now after migrating to a new computer 
> - - 
> 
> when doing any FIND & "replace" action, where is the setting which allows the 
> users to see the number of corrections/replacements?
> 
> (Not found in the UG.)
> 
> /
> with best regards,
> Omar KN, Stockholm, Sweden
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Re: Possible to duplicate one paragraph after another throughout a doc?

[Bucky Junior]

What about just making a copy of all the text and appending it to the end? Then 
use a split screen (top/bottom) to see the original and make your edits. That 
way you will have an easier time removing the original (1/2 of the text) and 
keeping the edited version.
Original
= Para 1
= Para 2
= Para 3
 Split in screen 
Editing version
= Para 1
= Para 2
= Para 3

> On Jun 1, 2023, at 5:40 AM, Michael Heth  wrote:
> 
> I have a long document that I now want to revise extensively. But I would 
> like to have the original paragraphs inline with the new as a reference for 
> what I was up to originally.
> 
> Each paragraph starts with an equals sin and a space
> 
> =(sp)my text
> 
> Is there a way to do this?
> 
> Original Outline
> 
> = Para 1
> 
> = Para 2
> 
> = Para 3
> 
> = Para 4
> 
> Ready for the revisions.
> 
> = Para 1
> 
> = Para 1
> 
> = Para 2
> 
> = Para 2
> 
> = Para 3
> 
> = Para 3
> 
> = Para 4
> 
> = Para 4
> 
> Thanks for any tips/advice/info.
> 
> M./
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Re: Color and text

[Bucky Junior]

Congratulations on your finding one of the best text editing programs around…if 
not THE best.

BBEdit is a text editing program and I think you’re asking to be a word 
processor. It isn’t.

BBEdit does some text coloring on the screen but it is used for highlighting 
snippets of programming code. Code like HTML, perl, C, Python and a bunch of 
other programming languages. It is only colored within the BBEdit program. It’s 
not saved to a disk.

I suppose it would be possible to write something, then code it with word 
processing styles in HTML, open it in a web browser and view it or print it 
from that but that would be exceedingly clumsy.

E.g., reset then existing followed by 
Conflict

What a mess! There are some shortcuts by adding CSS, but that’s another story.

Since you have BBEdit, I’ll assume that you probably have a Mac, in which case 
you have Apple’s Pages, a word processor. That should easily allow you to 
stylize text in a multitude of ways.

BBEdit does amazing stuff. I have the application running all the time. The 
user manual can be your friend.

Best wishes.

> On Oct 13, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Gilbert Grosdidier 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm a newbie with BBEdit use.
> I was unable to find any help about some very simple actions : while in a 
> plain text document, here is a bunch of text :
> "ACPI To Reset RHUBs (May Conflict With Existing  SSDT)"
> - how could I put "reset" in bold ?
> - how could I put "existing" in red ?
> - how could I put "Conflict" before green background ?
> 
>  Many Thanks, Regards, Gilbert.

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BBEdit Environment for html

[Bucky Junior]

I have BBEdit open ALL the time. I use it mostly to write web pages using a 
combination of HTML, mySQL, PHP, and apache to write and test my work before 
uploading it into the wild.

I've run into a problem I've been unable to surmount. Apple no longer supports 
PHP. In Ventura, I was able to internally codesign PHP so that I could use it 
on my machine. With Somoma, I've codesigned PHP but run into a barrier of some 
PHP component that's not signed and so apache fails.

What are other developers, more capable than I are doing with BBEdit, apache, 
and PHP. I've considered the homebrew version of apache but am hesitant to make 
the plunge.

Suggestions?

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Re: BBEdit Environment for html

[Bucky Junior]

Thank you all for your suggestions of problem with PHP and Apache. For a person 
who is old and who has had no formal computer/language training, it has been a 
challenge.

I tried installing Local by WP in a Linux instance on Virtual Box as one trial. 
Even though it was a recent instance of Linux and the latest Local, it got 
itself lost and failed to find some of the files it needed to install. I’ll 
admit that I have a prejudice about Word Press. When I see WP, I always think 
of Word Perfect. Although clunky, in its day, I did a lot of page layout with 
it. Thanks anyway Kerri. It sounds like it works for you.

James, I looked at pkgx.sh and it looks like it could be quite thorough but 
perhaps more than I needed. I was a little hesitant to start the installation 
as I didn’t quite understand what what might be installed and I failed to see 
what might be expected or what to do if something went wrong.

Massimo. MAMP looked good and I recall the MAMP acronym from ages past when 
Apple did not include Apache in its installation. As a whole package, it looks 
like there is a lot you can do with it in terms of configuration.

Rick, your suggestions came in after I had solved my immediate issues late last 
night.

What I did to solve my particular issue was to use HomeBrew to create another 
instance of Apache2. It was able to deal with my previous installation of PHP 
(with HomeBrew) without additional certification. I did have some permission 
issue that was finally solved by adding permissions to the locations where I 
keep my draft sites.

Now I’m a happy BBEdit camper again. There certainly wan’t anything wrong with 
my BBEdit, in fact, it has been highly instrumental in tracking down files, 
comparing the old and new installations, and making minor (and major) edits to 
configuration files.

Thanks again all. Is this a great group, or what? GREAT.
Bucky

> On Jan 29, 2024, at 9:35 AM, Rick Yentzer  wrote:
> 
> I think Local is the easiest to quickly get up and running. Mamp is good too. 
> DevKinsta is another one that Docker containers, but it really easy to use. 
> Of these three, I'd choose Local or Mamp.
> If you want to piece it together yourself, you can install php with Homebrew 
> on the command line.
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:34:33 AM UTC-5 Massimo Rainato wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Il giorno 24 gen 2024, alle ore 21:40, Bucky Junior >> <>> ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> I have BBEdit open ALL the time. I use it mostly to write web pages using a 
>>> combination of HTML, mySQL, PHP, and apache to write and test my work 
>>> before uploading it into the wild.
>>> 
>>> I've run into a problem I've been unable to surmount. Apple no longer 
>>> supports PHP. In Ventura, I was able to internally codesign PHP so that I 
>>> could use it on my machine. With Somoma, I've codesigned PHP but run into a 
>>> barrier of some PHP component that's not signed and so apache fails.
>>> 
>>> What are other developers, more capable than I are doing with BBEdit, 
>>> apache, and PHP. I've considered the homebrew version of apache but am 
>>> hesitant to make the plunge.
>>> 
>>> Suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> my 2c on https://www.mamp.info <https://www.mamp.info/> 
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Rainato
>> massimo...@gmail.com <>
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Grateful for BBEdit

[Bucky Junior]

Hear. Hear.

I’m just a simple-minded, simple user of BBEdit (for about 10 versions now.) 
I’m not capable of a fraction of Bruce Van Allen does but BBEdit is my “always 
on” software. BBEdit seems to have the power to meet the needs of heavy duty 
users and the ease of use for some of the rest of us.

Cool beans Bruce.

Thanks BBEdit,
Bucky

> On Jun 11, 2024, at 8:03 PM, Bruce Van Allen  wrote:
> 
> Keep (us) moving forward Barebones!

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Re: bbedit's grep search functionality on windows

[Bucky Junior]

I did my first HTML coding with Applework V3.1 (or was it 3.5?) on an Apple
//gs. Combined with Randy Brandt's (?) UltraMacros, it was slick. When I
found myself employed in a Windoze environment, I found a program called
HotDog from Sausage software out of Australia. It wasn't bad for a Windoze
program.

Still, it was a treat to move up to the Mac and BBEdit in about 1998-9. I
like Charlie's idea of picking up a Mac on eBay or somewhere _just_ so you
can run BBEdit. My workplace provided me with an Intel-based machine, on
which I installed Linux as a disposable server, but to get work done, I
picked up my own Mac Minnie and of course I run BBEdit on it.

Buckyjunior

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Re: Files Not Always Saving

[Bucky Junior]

Jack,

I have a similar work flow of working locally and then saving to off-site.
(In between I use BBEdit's subversion, but that's not your issue here.)

When I save to off-site, I almost _always_ use "Save a copy to FTP/SFTP...".
For me, that's Control-option-command-S. On occasion, I have simply saved to
FTP/SFTP control-command-S. What happens is that now the current file is the
one that's on the server. Subsequent saves are to the server, not locally.

It happened to me more than once and everyone knows how careful I am, it
could happen to you.

Best wishes,
Bucky

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Jack Stewart  wrote:

>
> Thanks Harold,
>
>I'm guessing that your theory is pretty close to the truth. Yes, I have
> ftp'd files to the host server but I have been careful to save them as local
> files first and then ftp them to the host via "ftp/sftp". Am I missing
> something here? It seems like the most vulnerable to error part of my
> process.
>

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Re: [ANN] LottoCal 1.0

[Bucky Junior]

Being old, grey-haired, and cautious, I think I'll wait at least for version
1.1.
Bucky

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Rich Siegel  wrote:

> We have a new product announcement today: LottoCal 1.0.

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Re: Error -61 attempting to save file to server

[Bucky Junior]

A quick Google search suggests that you have permission differences. You
probably don't have permission to write to the file.

Apple's listing of Mac OS error codes - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618

Macrumors goes into some detail -
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=475176

I don't know if running "repair permissions" from your notebook would give
you permission on the G5. It may take some more command line work. In the
terminal app, type in
man chmod

or

man chown

for details command line options.

Bucky

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:13 AM, bunner bob  wrote:

>
> Recently I've gotten the following error on several files:
>
> An attempt to write to this volume failed (MacOS Error code: -61)
> ...
> What does it mean? What should I do?
>
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Re: Keeping BBEdit awake

[Bucky Junior]

On Sep 21, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Jan Erik Moström wrote:

>
> On 09-09-20 at 23.08, John Delacour  wrote:
>
>> With varying frequency I copy text from a browser and paste it
>> into a BBEdit document.  If I leave BBEdit idle for too long,
>> it takes several seconds for the application to reawake and
>> these dalys add up to an annoyance.
>>
>> Is there a setting that will prevent BBEdit from dozing off?
>
> My guess is that has nothing to do with BBEdit but rather with
> OS X. It probably swap out processes that haven't been used in a
> while and then need to bring it back into memory before being
> able to use it.

Which to me sounds like a memory issue. The same thing happens when I  
have 3-4 graphics programs running, three browsers with a dozen tabs  
each, a virtual machine or two running and switch between programs.

Not BBEdit. Not a sleep issue. Not the OS as such, but how memory is  
used allocated and, yes, swapped in and out. If you run top in a  
terminal window and expose the top section where you can see the swaps  
in and out. I'm sure if you read the man file for top, you could  
figure out how to extract just that information. You'll probably find  
that your memory is being swapped in and out.

Bucky
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Re: Keeping BBEdit awake

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Bucky Junior  wrote:

>  If you run top in a terminal window...
>

Try this top command

top -ovsize -Uusername -Frt -n15

top = command
-ovsize = order by virtual size
-Uusername = your user name
-Frt = don't calculate frameworks, report object memory map, translate
usernames
-n15 = number of lines in report

You'll see at the end of the topmost section ### pageins and ### pageouts.
Pageins are writing to disk-based swap file. Pageouts and reading from that
swap file. Lots of pageouts relative to pageins means that you've used up
your physical RAM and performance is degraded.

E.g., I have 5GB of RAM and have 13 visible applications running. I've got
nearly 2 million pageins and 34 pageouts. Right now, my performance is quite
acceptable.

For more information, this thread may explain better than I. <
http://macosx.com/forums/mac-os-x-system-mac-software/47648-page-ins-page-outs-could-somebody-please-explain-me-idiot-fashion.html
>

Bucky

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Re: Keeping BBEdit awake

[Bucky Junior]

I'm on Mac OS 10.5.8. I'm uncertain why this would make a difference,  
but deleting the -Frt from the command line still gives the important  
pageins/pageouts.

Be sure to substitute _your_ username in -Uusername. I copied back  
from the message and (duh!) got invalid username.

Without the -Frt, and running an extremely RAM intensive flight  
simulation program a while ago, this is the top section of the running  
report. My pageouts are less than 3% of my pageins.

Processes:  98 total, 5 running, 5 stuck, 88 sleeping... 519  
threads 11:20:39
Load Avg:  0.43,  0.39,  0.44CPU usage:  3.60% user,  6.99% sys,  
89.41% idle
SharedLibs: num =8, resident =   59M code,  624K data, 4564K  
linkedit.
MemRegions: num = 32678, resident = 1680M +   36M private,  493M shared.
PhysMem:  685M wired, 1627M active, 1450M inactive, 3760M used, 1360M  
free.
VM: 17G + 377M   1788548(0) pageins, 53842(0) pageouts

More RAM is always good. As much as you can afford.


On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:41 AM, le...@gmail wrote:

>
> On Sep 22, 2009, at 0:21, Bucky Junior 
> wrote:
>
>> top -ovsize -Uusername -Frt -n15
>
> What version of top? On my 10.6 machine top does not like -Frt


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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[Bucky Junior]

I really have to agree with Mr. Reveal. I have my BBEdit open with  
multiple files all the time. I don't want BBEdit to narrow my choices  
or overload them unnecessarily. Back in the olden days, using  
Appleworks 3.1 and add-on UltraMacros, it was easy to create one's own  
series of keystroke-saving shortcuts to create code.

If someone prefers auto-closing tags, they could easily create  
clippings to do that and assign them to keystrokes. The same with CSS  
values for options. Put in the values and choices that you want to see  
rather than someone else's choices.

The more you learn about how to control the computer/program's  
behavior, the less you want it to control yours.

Best wishes,
bucky

On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:48 PM, William Reveal wrote:

> On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:13 AM, stratboy wrote:
>
>> Hi, there are 2 main things I think you could consider to make a
>> better auto completion:
>

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Re: BBEdit 9 - Find & Replace missing "start from top" feature.

[Bucky Junior]

 From a message of Jan 9, 2009:

> If you want the old way back then:
> Preferences > Text Search > click on 'Modal Find dialog
>
> Now it works the old way.

I haven't looked, but I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere.

bucky

On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:55 AM, thomas hillard wrote:

> Am I crazy? I just installed BBEdit 9, and I cannot use the "start
> from top" function when performing a search in a file. This used to be
> available from the find screen and as a keyboard short-cut (command
> +t). I need this function all the time. Where did it go? I'm switching
> back to 8.7 until I know more.
>
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F*X news: literally incredible

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Re: i'm new at this

[Bucky Junior]

If you "Export" or "Save As" an html file (I think that Word does  
that) you will get an html file that BBEdit can open and work with.  
When displayed, your new html file will kinda look like you how  
designed it.


Easily? BBEdit will open it easily but my experience with getting  
documents that Word had made into html has been abysmal and frustrating.


First of all, I've seen huge blocks of code unnecessarily filled with  
CSS style definitions where it was completely insane. Then, the code  
is generally non-compliant with W3C specifications. Lastly, By knowing  
some html coding and cascading style sheets, you can probably do the  
same page with 1/20th the volume of code.


That said, give it a try. Then take some time to learn some html and  
css if you haven't already. Then return to your pages after a year or  
so and see what you think.


Bucky

On Jan 14, 2010, at 4:41 PM, shimon apisdorf wrote:


i'm building my first site using a template at godaddy.

i have lots of documents in word for mac and want to copy them on to
pages for the site.

will BBEdit allow me to copy from word to BBE to webpages easily?
retain formatting?

thanks
any guidance much appreciated
shimon


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Re: Using Tab to indent lines

[Bucky Junior]

Yes, as Mr. Chaffin says, you are getting expected results.

I believe the default action to indent a line (selected or not) is  
command-].


To reduce the level of intent, command-[.

Under the Text menu -> Shift left and right.

Bucky

On Jan 23, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Carpii wrote:


If I select a block of text in BBEdit, and press Tab, it indents it
(which is what I want).

Theres an option in preferences to dictate whether this happens I
think, and obviously its enabled.

But if I select a single line of text, and hit Tab, it replaces the
whole line with a Tab character.
Is there a way to work around this, as its very inconsistent since Ive
already told BBEdit Id like Tab to indent text, not replace the
selection

Thanks
Paul


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Re: Prevent being prompted to save a BBEdit "on-the-fly" project

[Bucky Junior]

Sounds like opening a disk browser (command-option-N) would serve your
purposes better than opening as a project.

Projects are kinda new to me and I haven't really explored their potential.
The disk browser is older and I don't know if it is filter-able, but you
might want to look at that.

Bucky

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Russel Wallace wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I often open a directory as a BBEdit project on the fly (e.g., "bbedit
> ~/dir"), and sometimes use a filter to view only certain files (e.g.,
> "just C++ source files). This works great, but I find it annoying to
> be prompted whether or not I want to save the project when trying to
> close BBEdit or the project window. Is there a way to disable this?
>

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Re: Use file name in replace pattern

[Bucky Junior]

jmichel,
I'm assuming from your question that you are able to find the line you
want to replace.

If you want to replace your find with the file name--hardcoded--I
would suspect that Applescript would be the choice of many, but I
can't seem to get anything to work for me with Applescript. I'm sure
it's my problem.

You might consider BBEdit's "Include" options, specifically the
persistent include mentioned on p. 380+ of my manual. For instance,
starting with a short html test file (as per the example)


    Include Test
    







When this file is Updated (Markup-> Update-> Document) the name of the
current file is inserted into the document. You can put this in any
file and it will update to include the document name. It depends on
the short Perl program placed (in this case the same directory as the
test file).
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# saved as filenamefoo.pl
my $file = shift @ARGV;
print "Filename: $file\n";

Hope this helps. I'm sure there are other ways of accomplishing what
you want done.

Bucky

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, jmichel  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Does anybody know whether it is somehow possible to include the
> current file name in a grep "replace" pattern when doing a multi-file
> search/replace. I have a case now where I need to replace one line in
> each of my files by a string containing the name of the file in which
> the line occurs.
> I am sure this can be done in unix using a sed script but I am not too
> familiar with the syntax, therefore I wondered whether BBEdit could do
> the job. Thanks…
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Re: Convert spaces to quickly

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On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:58 PM, srmaximo wrote:


Using the PRE element would probably work, except that I've already
spent about 20 hours on the project and changing my approach now may
not be worth it.  Isn't there a way to convert spaces to  
quickly?



Even though it would change your work flow and change your approach,  
your really might be happier in the long run using the PRE element for  
your formatting. If you ever (when you ever) want to go back and edit  
the space-based formating, it will be much easier with mono-spaced PRE  
formatting than with six character   formatted spaces.


Just my opinion though.


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Re: [ANN] BBEdit 9.5

[Bucky Junior]

I don't think I've encountered very many, if any at all of the bugs  
that were fixed, but I do like the clarification of the UTF-8  
designations.




The following UI changes have been made to text encoding selection:

"Unicode (UTF-8, no BOM)" has been renamed to "Unicode (UTF-8)".

"Unicode (UTF-8)" has been renamed to "Unicode (UTF-8, with BOM)".


The 30% speed increase is helpful too.

Bucky

On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Rich Siegel wrote:


A complete digest of the changes is available here:



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Re: Upgraded from 8.72 to 9.5 and have a question about "search from top"

[Bucky Junior]

There was a thread on this from September of 2008 titled 'What  
happened to "Start at Top"?' Probably more references as some people  
forgot to read it.


In version 9, you could change the behavior back to the V8 version in  
the preferences. I haven't gotten around to getting my point five  
update yet but imagine it still is there.


Try this link in the BBEdit-Talk archives. Plenty of discussion that  
should satisfy anyone's need to read.


Bucky





On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Bill Rowe wrote:


On 4/28/10 at 5:53 PM, dougler...@gmail.com (douglerner) wrote:


I just upgraded from BBEdit 8.72 to BBEdit 9.5.



In the new search, I notice I can't do the CMD+T to force the search
to start from the top of the file anymore.



Is there a way to do that?



I know about the wrap option, but that's different.


I don't have an answer to your question. But I am curious as to why  
you see the wrap option as "different". It you start a search from  
the start (top) of a file it obviously searches the entire file  
stopping for a hit. If the wrap option starts from where the cursor  
is and searches through the file wrapping end to start till you get  
back to where the cursor is, isn't the end result the same? What am  
I missing here?


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Re: BBEdit 9.5

[Bucky Junior]

On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:12 PM, David Kelly wrote:


The old BBEdit still works, so use it.



Here. Here.

My Aldus PageMaker still works--I think, but I would have to run it on  
a PC with Windoze 95. I've decided to use a fairly recent inDesign on  
my Mac. New features go with a newer machine and a better OS.


Bucky

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Re: Search/Find Utility Settings

[Bucky Junior]

On May 20, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:

defaults write com.barebones.bbedit FindDialog:UseOldSk00lFindDialog  
-bool NO


Steve


And don't forget to close and restart BBEdit. I suppose it must reload  
all the preferences--normal and expert.


Bucky

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Re: searching!

[Bucky Junior]

I would agree that something like kompozer would be good for a  
beginner starting with HTML web pages. The results are immediate and  
you can see what you are doing without having to visualize the end  
result while writing code in an unknown language. I don't have  
experience with iWeb as I skipped over that long ago.


I would also suggest getting BBEdit's TextWrangler. You may not be  
able to use this (still) feature rich free program to its full extent,  
but it’s a great program.


On Jun 8, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Kendall Conrad wrote:

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ That's where I would
start.


I know that it's near heresy to suggest so, but to get a feel of some  
things, it is possible to use a word processor like NeoOffice or  
OpenOffice (both free) and create a few pages with those starting with  
a new HTML document. I don't know what kind of code these word  
processors create, but if it is anything near like what that other  
word mangler does, it isn't pretty. You can then open the code with  
TextWrangler or kompozer to see what happened.


A book from the library like "HTML for Dummies" might be a good start  
though I haven't checked it out myself.


BBEdit is really a professional's power tool--compare (let's say) a  
hand saw to all the power equipment in a lumber yard.


Best wishes.
Bucky

On Jun 9, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Steve Piercy wrote:


I recommend using a tool that does not require you to learn HTML, yet
is as familiar to writers as Microsoft Word.

Here is a non-commercial option:
http://kompozer.net/

Your web hosting provider may offer a website authoring tool at no
additional cost or a nominal fee.

A very easy to use editor included with iLife:
http://www.apple.com/ilife/iweb/

--steve


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Re: HTML 5 and CSS 3

[Bucky Junior]

And a SPOTTED pony too. The brown ones I got are too drab!

Oh, I hope the wonderful crew doing support are still getting paid.  
They did well by me when I wrote a couple of years back.


Maybe I should write to them about spotted ponies?

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Re: New HTML document

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BTW. I haven't studied the drafts of HTML5 much yet...and they aren't
finalized...but I got the impression that the preferred usage of the
doctype was in lower case. I guess I need to do some more studying.

Bucky

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Linda <1anml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> 

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Re: Scarry Find and Replace

[Bucky Junior]

I searched the subject lines for "[ANN] BBEdit 9.6.3 (2885) pre-release)" and 
came up with this:

> The package can be downloaded from our web server:
> 
>
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> R.
> -- 
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Bucky

On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Stanley Weber wrote:

> Patrick
> 
> I just joined the BBEdit email list on Jan 10. Could you please forward the 
> link to the new build that you reference below?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> ||
> Stanley S. Weber, Pharm.D., FASHP, BCPP
> Associate Dean for Professional Pharmacy Education
> University of Washington
> PO Box 354699
> Seattle, Washington 98105
> 
> webe...@u.washington.edu
> (206) 616-8762 (voice)
> (206) 221-2689 (fax)
> 
> 
> On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Patrick Woolsey wrote:
> 
>> StanW  sez:
>> 
>>> Using BBEdit 9.6.2:
>>> 
>>> I have been a long time user of BBEdit. I often use Find and Replace
>>> for a bunch of sites. For example today I wanted to change all of my
>>> footers to 2011 from 2010. It looks as if BBEdit changed the 6 or so
>>> footers across my sites, but it also saved all (everyone) of my
>>> webpages so they now have today's modification date. I have no idea
>>> what else BBEdit changed, but how can I trust it?
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me what happened? I will try to find 9.6.1 and revert;
>>> this did not happen with that and earlier versions.
>>> 
>> 
>> As a quick reminder, if you encounter any problems with BBEdit, the best
>> course of action is always to contact support. :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Per Rich's post on 12/22 (Subject: [ANN] BBEdit 9.6.3 (2885) pre-release),
>> we've already isolated the cause of this problem and it will be corrected
>> in the next update; for the meantime, you can use the pre-release build
>> linked in that post.
>> 
>> Sorry for the inconvenience, and I hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Patrick Woolsey
>> ==
>> Bare Bones Software, Inc.
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Where would I be today?

[Bucky Junior]

I just had a "Where would I be today?" moment with BBEdit.

It was "What would I be doing if I didn't have BBEdit?" A very simple action 
like moving one open file from one editing window to another (by dragging the 
icon in the top bar) so I could see two files at once just reminded me how much 
I depend on BBEdit _every_ day.

This is really just a rhetorical question--by the way--I don't anticipate or 
expect any comments or answers.

Happy to be,
Bucky

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Re: Grep question: Replacing data that do not match criterion

[Bucky Junior]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:08 PM, John Delacour wrote:

> At 13:32 -0500 28/01/2011, you wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:22:43PM -0800, steveax wrote:
>>> > $tldn = 
>>> > '(com|net|edu|gov|int|mil|org|biz|name|coop|aero|info|[a-z][a-z])'; #most 
>>> > valid top level domains
>>> 
>>> That list is a bit out of date these days, no?
>> 
>> What tlds is it missing that you expect to see?
> 
> Perhaps just one or two token entries to acknowledge the existence of a whole 
> universe beyond the oily shores of the United States ?
> 
> JD

The last two range variables would do that I think. "[a-z][a-z]" would get 
e.g., .de, .jp, .sk, .ru, .ro, .ca, .uk, .gb, etc.

That's what I can think of where I receive mail and visitors. Not that we 
haven't oiled other shores.

Bucky

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Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window

[Bucky Junior]

I would wager that it hasn't been there hiding in the App Store for 14 years. 
Don't believe it if anyone tells you so. :)
Bucky

On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Alex Satrapa wrote:

> On 04/03/2011, at 14:06 , Alex Satrapa wrote:
> 
>> But that raises the question in my mind: why isn't TextWrangler available on 
>> the App Store?
> 
> Hrmph… apparently it is, just the Bare Bones web site doesn't have a link to 
> the entry.
> 
> Alex

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Re: Fixing Windows-1252 encoded characters

[Bucky Junior]

I think I would probably use a text factory to do this. Set up multiple 
search/replace items, select multiple files/folders to process, and go.

As always, back up original files and operate on copies to test.

Bucky

On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:

> I have a need to convert HTML that uses the invalid x80-x9f Windows-1252 
> codepoints to their x82xx Unicode values. I am doing this now by doing 
> find/replace one codepoint at a time (there are only about 6 values that are 
> misused so I just need to run though the files 6 times). Is there a more 
> automated way of doing this? I would love if BBEdit had this as one of its 
> Format Corrections or there was a Text Factory to fix this miscoding. I guess 
> I can always just look at the Manual to see how hard it would be to create my 
> own but I would rather just use some already available one to save me the 
> effort.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

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Re: GREP Cleanup

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On May 6, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Bo wrote:
> I want to format my css include file to go from this:
> 
> [code]
> \twidth:85%;
> ...
> to
> 
> \twidth:\t\t\t85%;
> ...
> so it all aligns in columns, is there an adcanced regex function i can
> use, or a reflow document preference that can be manually set on a per
> doc basis?

It looks to me like all you need to add is two tabs after the colon. search for 
the colon and replace with the colon and two tabs. Or am I missing something?

search (:)\s*(\w)
replace \1\t\t\2

The search pattern looks for a colon to remember--the parentheses--zero or more 
whitespace characters, with a word character next
The replace pattern replaces the colon \1, adds two tabs \t\t, and then 
replaces the single word character.

This adding of two tabs doesn't seem to accomplish what you are really looking 
for--aligning the CSS values as a column. At least for me with 4 spaces per tab.

As far as a a reflow setting for documents, I've not seen such an option.

Bucky

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Re: GREP Cleanup

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On May 6, 2011, at 3:53 PM, John Delacour wrote:

> At 17:28 -0400 06/05/2011, you wrote:
> 
>> Ideally I want the regex or reflow to but the attribut , for instance, on 
>> char 4, and all the values on char 60.
>> 
>> does that make sense?
> 
> It might make more sense if you wrote out some pseudo-code showing precisely 
> what you wish to achieve.  The answer is simple but the question is confused.
> 
> JD

I interpret Robert's intended result to look something like this.


width:   85%;
margin:  0 auto;
padding: 10px;
position:relative;
color:   #CCC;
background-image:transparent url('foo/frack.png') no-repeat top left;

I don't imagine it could be done with a simple grep replace. I could probably 
be done with a perl script which would count the longest string of characters 
to the left of the colon and then pad to the right of it, count characters in 
all the other lines and pad appropriately to the right.

Best,
Bucky

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Re: Converting email and web addresses to hyperlinks...

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On May 17, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Bo wrote:

> How does one convert email and web addresses to hyperlinks using
> BBEdit.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

Or are you looking for something even simpler?

email address: bbedit@googlegroups.com
email address as hyperlink: mailto:bbedit@googlegroups.com";>mail 
bbedit group

web address: http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit
web address as hyperlink: http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit";>BBEdit Google Group

If that answers your question in a way you were thinking, you may find these 
pages at W3C helpful. 

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Re: Keyboard cursor control doesn't work for me

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It seems that for some of the Preferences to take effect, one must quit and 
restart BBEdit and/or log out of your user account and log back in. Other 
preferences take effect immediately.

Bucky

On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:12 AM, rithban wrote:

> I downloaded TextWrangler and the demo of BBEdit. I cannot get the
> keyboard cursor control to work on either. The following behaviour is
> identical on both editors.
> 
> Preferences > Editing: Keyboard > Use numeric keypad for cursor
> movement
> 
> Doesn't change the behaviour. It still inserts numbers.

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Re: porting spelling dictionary from BBEdit 8 to BBEdit 9.6

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Great information Chris. Thanks for sharing. Lots of helpful information to 
keep in mind.
Bucky

On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Christopher Stone wrote:

> Hey Bill,
> 
> BBEdit is now using the system-wide AppleSpell service, and I don't think you 
> can add any custom words to it [BBEdit] now.
> 
> Here's where the AppleSpell add-on file is located:
> 
> ~/Library/Spelling/LocalDictionary

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Re: Updates on Mac App Store now?

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Kind of an interesting topic. I remember it being discussed several months ago. 
I certainly don't have any argument with any of the suppositions about what 
Bare Bones business plan is or isn't. Or any argument with how people chose to 
buy and update their Bare Bones products.

It might be more germane to Bare Bones product users about how we as users do 
our marketing. (98% of what I do with BBEdit is volunteer work so I wouldn't be 
a good business plan source.) So, users...how do you market/distribute your 
products? Direct marketing? Big box store distribution? Brick and mortar 
storefronts? As someone with a product would you consider the App store for 
products you make with Bare Bones software?

Bucky

On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Robert Huttinger wrote:

> Back to my original, very simple statement, with no hidden meaning: Given the 
> option between paying thru Apple or 'directly', I choose 'direct'.
> 

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Re: BBEdit 10 Major stability issues on Lion

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On Aug 1, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Kent wrote:

> I bought BBEdit 10 right around when I upgraded to Lion. My guess is
> that due to the close release dates, little testing has been done on
> Lion. It's sort of a crash fanatic now, I can't do anything much
> without it dying after a while.
> 
> Here's one way to crash it:
> 
> in shell: # bbedit .
> (opens a project) in current folder, which has a few subfolders,
> including "bin"
> 
> In the project, right-click on "bin" and choose "Next Text Document".
> Crash.
> 
> Similarly, multi-file search and replace with grep doesn't work,
> either.
> 
> For example, search:
> 
> \@version.*\r
> 
> Replace:
> 
> \$URL\$\r
> 
> "Grep" on.
> 
> Across a deep directory structure containing PHP files, and nothing is
> found. File All finds nothing.
> 
> Opening a file directly, and doing search/replace DOES work, and so I
> had to do hundreds of files manually.
> 
> Similarly, cancelling a search in progress causes a crash.
> 
> The app is almost unusable, really. I still prefer it over anything
> else, please fix these issues!
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Re: Why BBE pisses me off

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On Aug 20, 2011, at 1:28 AM, MacCooler wrote:

> GET THE PICTURE?

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Re: Clarifications about Sharing Application Support & Preferences Data via Dropbox

[Bucky Junior]

Not something I've tried but I specifically recall reference to having to 
create a "Library" named file in the Dropbox folder. So, the Dropbox path 
should be something like:
~/Dropbox/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/

Bucky

On Aug 21, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Alex Popescu wrote:

> I've tried moving the ~/Library/BBedit files into ~/Dropbox/
> Application Support/BBEdit/Setup but it doesn't seem to work or at
> least I see the ~/Library/BBEdit folder recreated.
> 
> I've read the Read Me.txt file, but I couldn't find a clear reference
> to this question.

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Re: Edit both start and closing HTML tags at once?

[Bucky Junior]

On Aug 23, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Watts Martin wrote:

> Tudor wrote:
> 
>> I still think the Edit Markup command would be the perfect tool for
>> editing tags the way I described earlier, and if someone from BBEdit
>> reads this thread, please consider this as a feature request.
> 
> You should strongly considering submitting this as, you know, a feature 
> request. :)
> 
> I'm not sure how often this need actually comes up, which might make it 
> somewhat low priority, but who knows. I do suspect one could replicate this 
> functionality in an AppleScript, though -- find the tag containing the 
> insertion point, perhaps by searching backward for the "<" and then forward 
> for the ">", then replacing both it and the matching closing tag with 
> whatever the user inputs in a dialog box. (This could be fascinatingly 
> catastrophic if you used it on an HTML tag that didn't have a matching close 
> tag, of course, unless it had a list of "self-closing" tags to keep it from 
> doing that.)

And nested tags would be a challenge too.

  

  


  

  


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Re: BBEdit - Find & Replace using a list

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On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:20 AM, John Delacour wrote:

> At 17:05 -0700 31/08/2011, JT wrote:
> 
>> ...I have 30 language files that I automate graphics production and the
>> text files are identical except each one calls a new file in the path.
>> For example,
>> 
>> file://KR.tif
>> 
>> and I need to change the 'KR' to AU, GB, DK and so on and save each
>> find and replace as a new text file. Can this be done with BBEdit? Is
>> this something else other than what BBEdit was designed for?
> 
> It sounds like something that could be done very easily with BBEdit but until 
> you describe the problem in clear English and say just what it is you want to 
> save, I doubt if anyone will be able to help.
> 
> JD

Seems clear to me. The template file has "some text." JT wants to create new 
files, replacing "some text" for each of the new files.

I don't see (immediately) how it might be done with a search and replace or 
factory. If it were a web page, I would use PHP and assign the "some text" 
language designator to a variable. A base file would set the variable so each 
reader would get the language of choice.

A small program in perl could do much the same thing for a static file by 
repeatedly opening the template file, filling in the variable from an array and 
writing the file back out to a new file.

Bucky

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Re: 'perl: warning: Setting locale failed' with BBEdit 10.0.2 (3095)

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On Sep 18, 2011, at 3:28 PM, John Delacour wrote:

> At 12:57 -0400 18/9/11, Rich Siegel wrote:
> 
> 
>> A new 10.0.2 pre-release build is now available.
> 
> 
> At 11:38 -0700 18/9/11, Aman wrote:


One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

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Re: Repeating a Grep Search Until It Fails

[Bucky Junior]

Do you mean something like "Replace All"? The default keys are Option-Command-R.

Sometimes I want to make select changes but not all so I use command-G
to skip changing and find the next occurrence and command-T to make
the change and find the next.

Bucky

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Marek Stepanek
 wrote:
> On 05.01.2011 10:03 AM, Rick Gordon wrote:
>>
>> How can I set up a grep search that will repeat looping through the
>> document until all instances have been processed?
>>
>> For instance, say I've set up markers (« and ») around target source
>> strings, and want to process thos strings to remove any characters that are
>> not ASCII, numeric, space, or hyphen. Something like:
>>
>> FIND:
>>        (?<=«)(.*?)[^- A-Za-z0-9«»]+?(.*?)(?=»)
>>
>> CHANGE TO:
>>        \1\2
>>
>> How can I keep it looping until no more instances are found?
>>
>
>
> I don't like the find and replace dialogue any more, which was changed a
> long while ago. First go on top of your open file (this is tricky and
> annoying, because we have had once a button: "search backwards" etc I never
> understood, why BareBones removed this). Enter your search patterns, enable
> grep, and click on "replace & find".
>
>
> marek
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Re: Saved search patters

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Double-click on the pattern name.

B

On Nov 1, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Lewis Kirk wrote:

> Ah ha! I should have looked into the expansive preferences area. However, 
> that only allows you to delete or rename. I was looking to edit the pattern 
> without having to resave it, and move the order around. I am still on 9.6.3, 
> so things may have changed.
> 
>> In the menu bar.
>> 
>> BBEdit --> Setup
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Lewis Kirk 
>>> Reply-To: 
>>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:31:19 -0400
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Saved search patters
>>> 
>>> Where are the saved search patterns saved? Can they be edited?
>>> 
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Re: less syntax

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:13 AM, stratboy wrote:

> Less answers.

Less interest?

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Re: Major problem due to recent ftp docs

[Bucky Junior]

Brian,
If I were losing an hour starting up BBEdit, I would have written support very 
quickly.

In the meantime, you might look in your home folder under Library -> 
Preferences -> com.barebones.bbedit.PreferenceData to find various preference 
files. You can drag one or more files to your desktop to see how it affects 
your problem.

I might start with the contents of the folder "Recent Files & Favorites".

By dragging the files to the desktop you can still see what they are and access 
the information inside. It is sometimes quite useful.

Best,
Bucky

On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:21 PM, aries wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Over time I have opened several files directly over FTP. As a result,
> every time I startup BBEdit, it opens every one of the FTP docs in the
> Recent Documents list. Depending on my connection, this can sometimes
> take almost an hour! In the meantime I am unable to do anything in
> BBEdit, I have to wait for it to open the entire list.
> 
> Please, is there a way to clear the recent docs list, or prevent ftp
> docs from going into the list, or can BB fix this issue?
> 
> Many thanks,
> -Brian

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Re: Happy New Year!

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Best wishes all.

Okay...Back to my BBEdit projects.bbprojectd

Bucky

On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Rich Siegel wrote:

> Hi everyone :-),
> 
> Before we adjourn for the weekend, I'd like to thank all of you, on behalf of 
> all of us at Bare Bones Software, for being part of our world in 2011. Best 
> wishes to you and yours for all that the new year has to offer.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> R.

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Re: automatic html closing tag?

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If you type "<##>" with 
the <##> highlighted (the insertion point/area).

Bucky

On Jan 18, 2012, at 3:45 PM, sparker wrote:

> I started using BBEdit (switched from Dreamweaver) and noticed that
> there is no auto close tag feature. For example, if I type "" I
> would think it would automatically type the close tag with an
> insertion point in the middle "|".
> I see the "close current tag" in the side menu but that doesn't seem
> very practical having to click on that just to close your html tag.
> Does anyone know if there is something in the preferences where I can
> use this feature? I find this feature very helpful. I would hate to
> switch back to Dreamweaver just to use their text editor.
> Thanks

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Re: Check Syntax & HTML 5

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>From what I understand, HTML 5 likes a lot of things relegated to CSS styling. 
>It has to do with content organization as opposed to content styles. That 
>includes a lot of things that were easy to put in as you've done. It render 
>fine (usually) but doesn't comply with the syntax checking.

For example, look at these snippets.


or put them in a CSS style sheet or definition in the header.

 ul.a {list-style-type: circle;}
 ul.b {list-style-type: square;}

 ol.c {list-style-type: upper-roman;}
 ol.d {list-style-type: lower-alpha;}

This from 

I know. Picky. Picky. Change in the rules.

Best,
Bucky

On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Bill wrote:

> So, in a HTML 5 document I created an ordered list with  and  ol>, hit Check Syntax and got the message "No errors were found".
> 
> Then I tried , and Check Syntax said "Document type
> doesn't permit attribute “type” within element “”". When I viewed
> the list in a browser it appeared, as expected, with letters instead
> of numbers.
> 
> I think  is valid in HTML 5. I have relied on Check
> Syntax many times before, but now it appears to choke on changing the
> type in an ordered list.
> 
> Any suggestions?

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Re: Check Syntax & HTML 5

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Hmmm. I guess I haven't been up to date on the moving targets of W3C 
Recommendation for html4 or html5. Recommendation 4.01 seems to still be in 
recommendation status since December since 1999.

I work with someone from another planet who says 80% is good enough. If this 
person can get it to render in IE, it's good enough. This alien doesn't use 
BBEdit.

I'm guessing that Bare Bones is slightly behind the moving target of HTML5 with 
its syntax checker. I also use http://http://validator.w3.org/ to check my 
syntax if there is a question. Of course, it continues to be a recommendation 
in progress.

Best,
Bucky

On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:49 PM, pr10n wrote:

> the ol type attribute was deprecated in HTML 4.01 but was revived in
> HTML5. What Bill is trying to do is perfectly valid HTML5 markup.
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html#edef-OL
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/grouping-content.html#attr-ol-type
> 
> On Feb 23, 7:32 pm, Bucky Junior 
> wrote:
>> From what I understand, HTML 5 likes a lot of things relegated to CSS 
>> styling.

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Re: New to coding, should I buy BBEdit?

[Bucky Junior]

Jane,

You _do_ realize that you are asking about BBEdit on a list where we're nearly 
ALL BBEdit fanatics? It's like going to a Superbowl game and asking if anyone 
likes being a football fan.

Since you say you are just starting out and doing your coding by hand, you 
might want to try out BBEdit's free Text 
Wrangler. It doesn't do 
everything that BBEdit does now but does most of what BBEdit did 5-1/2 versions 
ago.

You can use BBEdit with a 30-day trial but I think it would be difficult for 
someone just starting out to really get deep into the power of BBEdit in 30 
days. Then too, with the new pricing, the full BBEdit is very affordable.

Should you buy it? That would be up to you.
Would it be better? Definitely though there are other editors out there. (Don't 
ask me what they are--remember the football fan?)

There is a learning curve. Just released is "Take Control" book for BBEdit 
 which seem 
like it would help.

Best wishes in your writing.
Bucky

On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:51 AM, Janec3 wrote:

> I am new to coding, and can do HTML well, and am learning CSS. I do it
> all by hand, tried Dreamweaver, its OK, but much prefer just using my
> TextEdit and doing it myself. Also I use a couple of templates which a
> classmate has helped me with.
> 
> My question is, should I buy BBEdit and learn it?  Will it be any
> better than hand coding for speed?
> Many questions, I love learning new software, but with coding, Im not
> sure about tackling something complex, as I didnt do well with DW.
> Thank you,
> Jane
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Re: New to coding, should I buy BBEdit?

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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:17 AM, David Kelly  wrote:
>
> Perhaps not for writing faster code, but for writing code faster.

This is a great line. I'm going to have to remember it.

As great as the line is, I find that I do write what I think is faster
code with BBEdit because it is so much easier to write standards
compliant code. It's so easy to check the code and _see_ the code. So
much of what I see out there on the intertubes is put together in such
a slush of cruft. Browsers do just a little less work to display more
efficient markup that is easy with BBEdit.

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Re: Correct Spelling Automatically?

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On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Jaren Angerbauer wrote:

> Thanks for the responses on this so far.
> 
>> This just checks spelling and does not auto-correct.
> 
> This is correct.  BBEdit is slightly different, in that if I type slow
> enough, a little window will pop up and and suggest corrections, but
> this is not the native auto-correct functionality.
> 
> Would this be a viable issue (maybe even as a bug) to submit to BB?

I don't consider it a bug that BBEdit does not try to spell for me. If it did, 
the first thing I would find out is how to turn it off. I do not often use the 
spell checker either. There are so many blocks of text that are not dictionary 
words that I use when I'm using BBEdit that an auto-correct would be more of a 
nuisance than a help.

If I need to write some text where I want that continual spelling feed-back, I 
use one of the many fine word processors that are available free or at cost. It 
is easy to write up text in a word processor, highlight and move it into BBEdit 
if need be.

My opinion is to thank Bare Bones for not including such a beast.

Respectfully,
Bucky

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Re: bbedit project files + other files on same fullscreen

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On Mar 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Bruce Van Allen wrote:

> Check this out: BBEdit has a scratchpad available any time, AND, each project 
> automatically gets its own scratchpad. Look in the lower left corner of the 
> project window. This might serve your needs.
> 
> 
>   - Bruce

Thanks Bruce! This is so cool. I'm going to have to dig into the Manual again 
and read in depth. The Scratchpad and Unix Worksheet are right there in plain 
sight, but I hadn't seen them in whatever version they appeared.

It's another non-bloatware feature from Barebones that I'll be using now that 
it's been pointed out to me.
Bucky

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Upgrade Subversion?

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Slow on the uptake here. I find that I'm running version 1.6.17 of Subversion 
(SVN) and notice that the current version is 1.7.4.

I'm still on Snow Leopard (10.6.8) on an older Intel Mac Pro and I'm wondering 
if there are any "gotchas" with doing the upgrade. The only thing I use with 
SVN is BBEdit and I only use it to track my own versions of what I'm writing. 
No one else is involved.

Are there any hints and tips that I need to pay attention to while I'm 
upgrading?

Best to all. I'm not foolin'.

Bucky

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Re: Upgrade Subversion?

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On Mar 31, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> 
>> Just my 2cp though.  Other people might do it differently.  Also,
>> unless there's a new feature you want, not doing anything is a
>> perfectly appropriate option, and the one I'd tend to advise.
> 
> 
> I concur. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
> 
> If I was still using svn, I'd stay put at 1.6 & any update/change would
> be to move to git. YMMV.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>  Phil...

Steve and Phil,
  Thanks for your thoughtful comments. Since what I'm doing (or not doing) with 
version control doesn't affect anyone but me, I may just leave well enough 
alone. The integration of SVN in BBEdit seems to serve me well. I'm using it to 
track changes on a site I volunteer to write/maintain and haven't often gone 
back into the repository to pull out an old document.

  I do have some other projects I'm working on where I may put git on a 
separate Linux box to try it out.

  Thanks again.
Bucky

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Re: indicating markup type

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David,

Yet another method of creating a new document with a particular markup/language 
in place is to create simple templates.

As little as a line of text suggesting what it is to be used for will work. The 
template should be "language selected" with the drop-down in the lower left of 
the editing window as noted by Mr. Woolsey and Ms. Mains. Save each language 
template you want to use in the ~/Application Support/BBEdit/Stationery folder. 
Remember to check the "Save as Stationery" box in the Save dialog.

When you want to start a fresh HTML document, just select File->New with 
Stationery...select your html template and off you go. You will have a new 
file, unnamed, with your selected markup/language, and as little or as much 
template as you like.

That works for me for several languages though for some reason, an .sql and a 
.mysql file didn't show up as stationery, but I could easily open up the folder 
from the File->New with Stationery menu.

Hope this helps with your work flow. It is one method that helps mine.

Bucky

On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, dweinberger wrote:

> I am quite certain I am going to be d'oh-slapping myself very soon, but is 
> there a way to tell BBEdit that a new document is using a particular markup 
> (e.g., markdown, js) without saving it with the appropriate extension? I 
> thought stationery might do that, but it doesn't.
> 
> No, doing a Save as a first action is not a big deal. I'm mainly curious 
> about whether I'm doing something wrong. Or not optimally right.
> 
> - David W. 
> 
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Re: Sort and disply duplicate lines wtih number in front

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Jim,

Chris' terminal line works great. I use something similar but create a new 
sorted file so I don't have to deal trying to get the info from the screen. The 
BBEdit worksheet will capture it.

sort tempfile0 | uniq -c | sort >tempfile1

On Aug 26, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Christopher Stone wrote:

> On Aug 26, 2012, at 18:11, Jim Walker  wrote:
>> We lost the feature available through Linesort in previous versions of 
>> BBedit it appears.
>> 
>> I have a list of 1 million IP addresses and I need to sort, remove 
>> duplicates and display to left the number of times the IP address appears in 
>> file.
> 
> __
> 
> Hey Jim,
> 
> LineSort was a nice plugin, but most of its functionality is available in 
> BBEdit these days.
> 
> You can run something like this from the Terminal or from a BBEdit worksheet.
> 
> sort ~/Desktop/sort_test.txt | uniq -c
> 
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Re: formatting or indentation of code block

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On Aug 27, 2012, at 6:58 AM, JC wrote:

> Thanks!
> How could I miss this one :-)
> Jeroen


U Lots of features in a compact form?


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Re: Windows alternative to BBEdit

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On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Robert Scott wrote:

> Hey all,
> I'm a BBEdit user, but I just got a job as a Developer at a Windows shop,
> They are using TextPad...  Can anyone recommend an alternative, something
> closer to BBEdit or Coda?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
Robert,

Congratulations on the job. Condolences on it being a Windows shop.

Yes, back in the last century, I too had a job in a Windows shop. At the time, 
I found a featuresome chunk of HTML creating software and was mostly pleased 
with using it.

I thought I might recommend it again as a possibility, but looking at their 
pages with iCab--which has an immediate HTML/CSS checker--I found the pages 
riddled with errors.

Now really. How can anyone with a shred of self respect offer to sell a program 
that makes broken pages? Sorry. I thought I had something to offer. Guess I 
don't.

Bucky

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Re: How to link to a named anchor on the same page?

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Marc,

Ironically, I wrote to support in the past week about this issue. I've noticed 
it being gone for a while and asked. The old file linking dialog box is gone, 
along with setting a named anchor. (BTW in html5, name is supposedly replaced 
by id.)

As usual with support, I got a very nice note in return saying that it's gone 
but it _may_ come back in the future. I used it a lot and miss it too. Patience.

Bucky

On Oct 5, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Marc wrote:

> Hello,
> In the past, linking to a named anchor that was on the same page (or in an 
> other file) was easy. Option-Clicking on the filename (in the popupwindow 
> after selecting the anchor command) opened up a list of all the named anchors 
> in that file.
> Where is that funcionality now?
> 
> Marc.

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Re: [ANN] BBEdit 10.5 (3219) pre-release

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On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Rich Siegel wrote:

>  you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public release. 
> :-)

I've never felt _obligated_ to use BBEdit, perhaps _compelled_ would be a 
better choice of words. I _choose_ to use BBEdit of my own free will...don't I?

Bucky

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Re: [ANN] BBEdit 10.5 (3223) pre-release

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On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Robert W. Franson wrote:

> Aside from the sheer usefulness of BBEdit, we love Bare Bones for technical 
> writing gems like this:
> 
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Rich Siegel wrote:
> 
>> The "current process" indicator in shell worksheets now
>>   has a spinny thing so that you know something's running, and a
>>   clicky thing if you want to stop the running thing indicated by
>>   the spinny thing.
> 
> Robert W. Franson
> 
> http://www.Troynovant.com/
> prismatic essays & untimely reviews

WHERE'S THE LIKE BUTTON?

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Re: CVS support

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Joe,

I'm not going to be able to offer any suggestions. Sorry. In the latest BBEdit 
10.5 in beta, menu support for CVS seems to be going by the wayside in favor of 
subversion. You might consider making the switch to that versioning system.

I'm sure if you searched the BBEdit List archives on google, 
,
 you might be able to find some other users working with CVS and how they are 
dealing with CVS and the change.

Again, I apologize for not being any help at all.

Bucky

On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Joe Chott wrote:

> I'm running build 3152 - version 10.1.2 out of the Mac App Store.
> 
> I've successfully checked out a module using commandline cvs (cvs co 
> ).  Of note - the CVSROOT is set to an :ext: host reference, in case 
> that matters here...
> 
> If, from the commandline, I do a "cvs log ", all works as I'd expect.
> 
> If I open that SAME file in bbedit and do a "CVS->Show Revision History", I 
> get messages as follows:
> 
> Permission denied, please try again.
> 
> Permission denied, please try again.
> 
> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic,password).
> 
> cvs [log aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)
> 
> I'd really like to know what is going on.  I suspect that bbedit is ignoring 
> the CVSROOT, but I'm not entirely certain.
> 
> Is anyone familiar enough with cvs and bbedit to give some insight here?
> 
> Thanks!

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Re: BBedit is taking up to 16 seconds to save all files

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I may not have a solution to your problem but here are some things to think 
about.

1) Are you saving locally to to an ftp server? It would seem that saving to a 
remote server would take longer than locally.

2) Your subject line suggests saving more than one file at a time. More files = 
more time.

3) People more knowledgeable than I might ask which build of the latest 
upgrade. I.e., from the file menu BBEdit => About BBEdit. I get "version 10.5.1 
(3250)" There may be peculiarities with beta builds. If you are using a beta, 
you best source for information is supp...@barebones.com. They _really_ are 
helpful, knowledgeable, real people at the other end.

4) Instead of using a web browser (Safari, Firefox, iCab, Chrome, Opera, etc.) 
for minor changes, have you tried BBEdit's "Preview with BBEdit"? My Previewing 
Pages information starts on page 229 of the manual. Using that would at least 
cut down on the number of times you needed to save to wherever allowing more 
time to tweak code.

Best wishes in solving your problem. It may be just local to your 
setup/configuration/workflow.
Bucky

On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Lorel  wrote:

> BBedit 10.5.1 on Mac Lion 10.7.5 started taking up to 16 seconds to save 
> files a couple weeks ago. I think it started when I installed the latest 
> upgrade.
> 
> I'm a web designer. I write code by hand. I write some code for a web page 
> then view it in a browser and it takes up to 16 seconds every time before I 
> can do anything else as it prevents me from doing anything else on any other 
> software on the whole computer.
> 
>  I tried restarting the computer and also just bbedit and nothing changes.
> 
> When I'm setting up a page with 20 images that need to be arranged in a 
> specific arrangement on the page it takes forever to get the page done.
> 
> Any solutions for this? 
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Re: Default Preview Font

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with Preview in BBEdit, you can use an external stylesheet template

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On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Steve Hodgson  wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Is it possible to change the appearance of the font used for previewing 
> files? I don't particularly want to style it with CSS - just reduce the size 
> and switch to sans serif.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: Replace characters in selection

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Learning Perl, Schwartz & Phoenix, O'Reilly
Programming Perl, Wall, Christiansen, & Orwant, O'Relly

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On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Zephyr Mays  wrote:

> This solution is perfect; I sincerely appreciate the solution.
> 
> Where do you recommend learn more about using perl to create these type of 
> text transformations?
> 
> Zephyr (aka Thankful Newbie)
> 
> On Friday, February 8, 2013 5:21:21 AM UTC-5, eremita wrote:
>> 
>> On 08/02/2013 02:17, Zephyr Mays wrote: 
>> 
>> > ...I'd like to select/highlight something like: 
>> >  These_Underscores_Need_To_Be_Spaces 
>> > 
>> > Hit a keyboard shortcut to end up with: These Underscores Need To Be 
>> > Spaces 
>> 
>> In almost all such cases a text filter is the solution.  If you save the 
>> script below in your Text Filters folder, you will be able to set a 
>> key-shortcut in the Text Filters palette.  The palettes sub-menu is 
>> under the Window menu. 
>> 
>> #!/usr/bin/perl 
>> while(<>) { 
>>s~_~ ~g; 
>>print; 
>> } 
>> 
>> JD
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Re: BBEdit and Dreamweaver battle

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I don't use Dreamweaver but this has been a recent topic which I believe 
contains some answers to your questions. A quick search turns up a number of 
references.

Try this 


Bucky

On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:07 PM, C Fiddler  wrote:

> Dreamweaver and bbedit conflict:
> 
> How do I resolve a seamless integration or a loving cohabitation between 
> bbedit and dreamweaver right not they are at odds. I keep getting this 
> message in DW that says "Dreamweaver has detected a version of BBEdit that is 
> not Dreamweaver enabled. Please disable or upgrade BBEdit integration in 
> Dreamweaver general preferences" Well I reluctantly disabled BBEdit but I 
> need it to work in Dreamweaver though. Is there an issue with the last 
> upgrade of BBEdit with Dreamweaver. My OS is OSX 10.8.2
> 
> Looking for a cure! any suggestion?
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Re: is there a way to set the location for "save as"

[Bucky Junior]

I will probably corrected if I am in error, but the Open/Save portions of 
BBEdit are dependent on the Mac OS. Ever since I've been using Mountain Lion, 
my Open/Saving has been just too strange. If I open a file from some 
subdirectory and try to Save As, there is now telling what directory will open 
up. Not the directory I had just opened. Not even the same that another program 
just used.

It certainly would be convenient to at least have an idea behind the OS's 
Open/Save scheme.

Bucky

On May 14, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Karen Dozier  wrote:

> I just upgraded to version 10.5.3.
> 
> I find that when I open a file and do a "save as" it no longer defaults to 
> saving in the same directory as the original file. In the new version "save 
> as" defaults to the last folder where a file was saved. Is there any way to 
> set this in preferences? 
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Re: Feature request: Ability to hide paragraphs beginning with a string

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On Nov 30, 2013, at 1:18 PM, "Luc P. Beaudoin"  wrote:

> user story:
> 
> I would like to be able to configure BBEdit to automatically hide or collapse 
> paragraphs beginning with a certain string.
> 
> I am a LeanPub author writing in Markdown with BBEdit. Paragraphs starting 
> with %% are comments. I'd like to be able to hide or collapse these 
> paragraphs while I'm writing.
> 
> Cheers,
> Luc
> 
> Luc P. Beaudoin
> https://leanpub.com/cognitiveproductivity/
> 

Luc,
  You are probably looking for something more "automatic" but you can fold 
(hide) any selection. Menu selection View->Fold Selection.

  You could make it easier by binding a keystroke to that menu item. 
Preferences->Menus & Shortcuts->View and assign a keystroke. Same with Unfold.

Best wishes,
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Re: BBEdit request

[Bucky Junior]

I use Thunderbird for one of the organizations I am in and find that it is 
quite easy to filter incoming messages to folders for further reading/action. 
See Tools->Message Filters.

For deleting, I just go to that folder, Select All, and Delete. Unless I'm 
missing something that should do it.

I get my gmail group messages on Apple's Mail as IMAP rather than POP so if I 
deleted my valuable local copy of BBEdit messages, some or all of them might 
download again. Ha! I would be disappointed if someone changed all the subject 
lines to include the [BBEdit Group].

Bucky

On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Marek Stepanek  
wrote:

> 
> Thanks for the replies!
> 
> 
> Of course, I can filter in Thunderbird for bbedit@googlegroups.com
> triggering 2729 messages, with 10 messages per page. But I don't find
> any means to delete them all together ... Sorry this is really off-topic
> now.
> 
> All other mailing-lists I am subscribed too have something like:
> 
>   [XeTeX]
> 
> in every subject line, which is a big help ...
> 
> 
> 
> marek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/01/14 18:30, Fritz Anderson wrote:
>> On 2 Jan 2014, at 10:30 AM, Marek Stepanek  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Every new year I am cleaning up my Thunderbird email accounts and every
>>> year I have the same problem cleaning up the BBEdit User Group. I would
>>> kindly ask the group administrator, to put in front of each Thread
>>> something like
>>> 
>>> [BBEdit Group]
>> 
>> I'm glad that none of the dozen mailing lists I subscribe to do this, 
>> because message lists with subject lines that are identical at first glance 
>> are hard to use. People seem to manage without them.
>> 
>> Every mail client I've seen this century can sort mail with a To: header of 
>> bbedit@googlegroups.com into its own mailbox. Many mail servers will do it 
>> for you on the server end. Clients can do cross-mailbox searches and hand 
>> you a consolidated list. If the messages are all in one mailbox with others, 
>> you can sort the header list on the To: field. Worse comes to worst, you can 
>> write a script that edits the mailbox files for you.
>> 
>> I'd be stunned to learn that none of these options are available to you. 
>> It's been minimal functionality for years (I could do something at least 
>> rudimentary in Eudora around 1992), and doing it on your end permits a 
>> better experience for everyone else.
>> 
>> I'd like to be constructive, but it's hard without understanding the 
>> constraints you are laboring under.
>> 
>>  — F
>> 
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Re: Did something happen to Update Folder?

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The excellent staff at Barebones don't always read or respond to this wonderful 
discussion group. They *do* however seem to respond very expeditiously to 
messages sent to 'support'.
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On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Kip Shaw  wrote:

> I'm hoping that there is a workaround. Perhaps Patrick Woolsey can chime in 
> here and let us know if there is anyway to create a script or use Automator 
> to restrict the update to the top level and NOT update files in nested 
> folders.
> 
> - Kip
> 
> On Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:48:44 PM UTC-5, Neil Faiman wrote:
> I'm running BBEdit 10.5. I have a web site that I hadn't worked on recently. 
> Tonight I tried to update a folder. 
> 
> Instead of the dialog box that I've always gotten for Update Folder..., and 
> that the BBEdit User Manual describes (A box containing the folder path, with 
> an up/down arrow control next to it; A "Skip (...) Folders" checkbox; and a 
> "Check Nested Folders" checkbox), I now get a dialog box with a single label, 
> "Folder to update:", and a chained series of folder icons representing the 
> path, with a clock-icon popdown menu next to it for selecting the folder. But 
> the two checkboxes are gone! 
> 
> What happened? How do I check just the 30 files in a folder and ignore the 
> 300 files subfolders? 
> 
> Oh, no! I just looked, and the Check Folder Syntax dialog box has suffered 
> the same transformation. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Neil Faiman 
> 
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Re: BBEdit always in front / flaky behavior of "Open documents into the front window when possible"

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If you are using BBEdit's "Preview in BBEdit" as your "browser" instead of 
something like iCab, Opera, or Safari, that would explain the behavior you are 
experiencing.

On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Oliver Taylor  wrote:

>> 3) I click on the browser in monitor 2
>> 4) BBEdit suddenly pops back to the front of monitor 1 and obscures Eclipse
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Re: Text Parsing

[Bucky Junior]

Just to add some fluff to the conversation, (I haven't tried this and probably 
won't take the time to do so since there are better REGEXers than I) but

How about searching for your "Sun" line and adding an extra return. Then search 
for a return with content in front of it, changing it to tabs? Would that do it 
in two steps?

Bucky

On Mar 2, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Ted Burger  wrote:

> I would do it in three steps.
> 
> Search for ^(sun .*)$ replace with \1^
> Search for \r replace with \t
> Search for ^\t replace with \r
> 
> Thanks,
> Ted
> ***  Ted Burger  
> t...@tobsupport.com  * www.tobsupport.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:07 AM, BeeRich wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks.  I have a challenge for the BBEdit peeps out there.  
>> 
>> I have a PDF that has a chart in it.  I want to turn it into some real data 
>> as the pdf is pretty much useless to me.  Upon copying a page of cells, I 
>> want to parse that into tab delimited text in BBEdit, but the cells wrap and 
>> I have a list of values instead.  Here's a chunk:
>> 
>> Airdrie
>> 7254
>> AIRDRIE
>> 2925 Main Street West
>> (403) 945-3865
>> M-F 7AM-10PM
>> SAT 7AM-9PM
>> SUN 8AM-8PM
>> Calgary
>> 7250
>> CALGARY (TUSCANY)
>> 5019 Nose Hill Drive N. W.
>> (403) 241-4060
>> M-F 7AM-10PM
>> SAT 7AM-9PM
>> SUN 8AM-8PM
>> Calgary
>> 7076
>> CALGARY BEACON HILL
>> 11320 Sarcee Trail NW
>> (403) 374-3860
>> M-F 7AM-10PM
>> SAT 7AM-9PM
>> SUN 8AM-8PM
>> Sherwood Park
>> 7172
>> SHERWOOD PARK
>> 200, 390 Baseline Rd.
>> (780) 417-7875
>> M-F 7AM-10PM
>> SAT 7AM-9PM
>> SUN 8AM-8PM
>> Spruce Grove
>> 7050
>> SPRUCE GROVE
>> 180 Hwy. 16A
>> (780) 960-5600
>> M-F 7AM-9PM
>> SAT 7AM-9PM
>> SUN 8AM-8PM
>> St. Albert
>> 7088
>> ST. ALBERT
>> 750 St. Albert Road
>> (780) 458-4026
>> M-F 7AM-10PM
>> SAT 7AM-9PM
>> SUN 8AM-8PM
>> 
>> The last entry is the SUN (...) line, so every record has 8 fields.  
>> 
>> Anybody have an approach to this?  My approach would be to replace all \n 
>> with \t, then grep for SUN(.+)PM\t and replace with (1)\n but I would like 
>> to see how others would parse it.  Could prove interesting.
>> 
>> Cheers
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Re: Global search nuisance?

[Bucky Junior]

In the Multi-File Seach and the Find window previous BBEdit searches are 
remembered for a while--even installing an update. You can find them under the 
"clock" icon. You can also save search/replace patterns for previous use which 
are under the "g" icon and under the BBEdit menu item "Setup."

I have to admit that in moments when I am under pressure and not thinking 
clearly, that I forget that these options are there. After working on a pattern 
for a while, I'll forget to save it for future use. So it goes.

Bucky

On Apr 9, 2014, at 8:20 PM, Rich Siegel  wrote:

>> Sorry for the emotional language. I lost about half an hour of work
>> because my regex was replaced by a search term I was using to locate a
>> previous example to draw from. So I am a wee bit cranky right now :(
> 
> Please note that Undo works in the Find window; so you needn't have lost 
> anything.

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Re: Feature Request: Elastic Tab Stops

[Bucky Junior]

I've always found that it is best to pick the tool that does the job you need 
it to do rather than alter the tool to do the job. That's why I have six image 
editors (of which I often use only two), one text editor (guess), one 
spreadsheet editor, and a few word processors.

I rarely use the word processor--despite it's huge list of "features"--because 
of its unwieldy nature and propensity to really mess things up. On the surface 
it may look pretty, but what happens beneath is a seething cesspool.

Best wishes,
Bucky

On May 5, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Rick Yentzer  wrote:

> That makes sense and I can understand their reasoning. I guess it will be up 
> to the enduser to evaluate if BBEdit as is fits their needs and workflow.

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Re: Release Roadmap

[Bucky Junior]

As has often been said, if there is something you particularly have an interest 
in coming to BBEdit, your best bet is sending a message to 
supp...@barebones.com.

The few times I've written with an issue I was having, I had very positive 
responses.

Bucky

On Aug 28, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Bill Rowe  wrote:

> On 8/28/14 at 1:16 PM, ryent...@gmail.com (Rick Yentzer) wrote:
> 
>> I was curious to know if there was a BBEdit roadmap that was
>> available to users?
> 
> Unless Barebones changes long standing policy unexpectedly, their plans for 
> any software they provide are not available to users.

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Re: How to tell if purchased direct or through the app store?

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I picked up my copy of BBEdit late this afternoon and yes, PONIES! I saw 'em.

There is more too but the ponies nearly jumped me. I've got more reading to do.
Bucky

On Oct 24, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:

> On 10/24/14 at 4:49 PM, krem...@kreme.com (LuKreme) wrote:
> 
>> On 24 Oct 2014, at 14:43 , François Schiettecatte  
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/arch_bbedit11.html
>> 
>> No PONIES!
> 
> Perhaps not, but are you sure?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> ==
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Re: You Will Love This: Balthisar Tidy

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Out of curiosity, I downloaded the Balthisar Tidy program just to see what it 
would do and personally found it no to my liking. The first thing in the 
unfinished program is that it kept telling my that I had no  
when in fact I did—prominently in the .

Then I went back to work in the “ever reliable” BBEdit only to find that all 
the icons of my PHP files had changed from BBEdit icons to Balthisar icons. Not 
a happy camper here. I did not ask this program to change all my icons. I am 
not fond of programs that make changes to my system without asking me. Not a 
happy camper at all.

This is one that goes in my Trash.

On Nov 10, 2014, at 5:15 PM, WordWeaver777  wrote:

> Personally, this app will be so useful to me once a few things are worked 
> out, that I will probably buy the MAS version anyway, just to support and 
> encourage Jim in his endeavors.
> 
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Re: save dialog higher than window

[Bucky Junior]

Urs,

I am not yet using Yosemite on my primary machine so I haven’t had this 
OS-related problem. I just happened to be listening to a podcast(*) today and 
the issue was discussed in relation to some Apple applications having/creating 
this problem of the expanding save dialog window. (François’s message about 
BBEdit’s update may be your solution.)

Some tricks mentioned in the podcast (for people who haven’t updated their 
BBEdit or dealing with other apps) stuck in my mind. One was to hold the Option 
key or the Shift key while dragging one side of the save dialog window. Not 
only would that narrow the window, but also shorten it. That would be a cheap, 
quick work-around, while waiting for a solution.

Best wishes,
Bucky

(*) MacCast (Enhanced) 2014-11-30

On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:36 AM, Urs Hochstrasser  wrote:

> On selecting "Save As..." from the File menu the dialog "sheet" coming down 
> from the title bar is higher than the screen, so the buttons at the bottom 
> are unreachable. If I then minimize the save dialog (MacOS standard feature) 
> and re-expand it afterwards, I am able to reach the buttons, as the dialog 
> pushes up the frontmost BBedit window moving the title bar beyond the upper 
> display border. After that the controls in the title bar of that window are 
> unreachable until I close and reopen it.
> 
> I use BBEdit 11.0.1 (3486) on Yosemite (10.10.1)
> 
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Re: default magnification

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There are separate setting for display and printing. I don’t see how one would 
mess up the other.
Bucky

On Feb 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, ELBeavers  wrote:

> 
> On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 9:24:57 AM UTC-5, Scott Calabrese Barton 
> wrote:
> Is there a setting or "defaults write" to set the default display 
> magnification?
> 
> I just discovered magnification, and have a nifty script to set it to 150%.  
> However, I'd prefer to just make that the default.
> 
> I second this one. Changing the default font size in the settings messes with 
> printing, forcing a visit to the prefs depending on print vs display. Zoom is 
> better in this case and I would also appreciate a default zoom in the prefs.
> 
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Re: adding other doc types to the ones suggested for Open With...

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“Open with…” is a function of the OS. Select an .ino file in the Finder. Get 
Info. 3/4 of the way down is “Open with:” From there you can change all files 
with the .ino extension to open with the application of your choice.

Hope this helps.


On Oct 31, 2015, at 3:06 PM, Andrew Davidson  wrote:

> Is there a way to add other document extensions to the list of suggestions 
> the Finder offers in the "Open With..." contextual menu for BBEdit?

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Re: Change location of Text Filters?

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You can put the whole BBEdit Application Support on Dropbox. It is very handy 
to do so.

I’m nearly certain that details are in the manual (under Help). A new possible 
location was recently announced but I’ve been happy where I have it so have 
forgotten.

You can also search this message group for details and comments about using the 
Dropbox location for BBEdit’s Application support. There have been a number of 
threads touching on several details.

On Dec 13, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Tim Reed  wrote:

> Is it possible to change the location that BBEdit looks for text filters from 
> ~/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/Text Filters to a location on Dropbox?  
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: BBEdit's settings/preferences on Dropbox / iCloud

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On Jan 5, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Vlad Ghitulescu  wrote:

>> 
>> Am 05.01.2016 um 18:05 schrieb Patrick Woolsey :
>> 
>> That's entirely up to you; we have no official preference. :-)
> 
> :-D
> Ok, than it's only TJ's recommendation that led me to Dropbox. ;-)

I would imagine that, like me, most who are using the Dropbox “cloud” for 
Application Support, did not feel the need to say “Me too.” That was possible 
first, so that’s what I’m doing. For me it has been “set and forget”.

Isn’t our shared product wonderful and the people who support it actually 
supportive?

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Re: Viewing CSV Files in BBEdit - How to Automatically Visually Format Columns

[Bucky Junior]

How about ->Preferences ->Editor Defaults … at the bottom “Tab Width”.

You cannot set different tab widths so all tab widths are the same and 
apparently applies to all documents although very easy to reset.


On Feb 23, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Adam Wise  wrote:

> Forgive this question because I think its been answered in parts in the forum 
> previously & I have very limited experience with BBEdit but I was hoping 
> someone could guide me in the right direction.  I'm editing a lot of 
> delimited files in BBEdit & was hoping there was a way to space out columns & 
> align them so they look more like an excel sheetfor instance:
> 
> Name, City, Zip
> John Doe, Washington, 20005
> 
> to
> 
> Name City  Zip
> John Doe   Washington 20005
> 
> Thank you.
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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

[Bucky Junior]

I think the best way to stop the “Evaluation Ended” showing up in every window 
is to pay for the software. I don’t remember seeing it at all.

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Joshua Root  wrote:
> 
> Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar of every 
> window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch back to TextWrangler. 
> It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the unusable menu items 
> starting with "Upgrade".

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Re: Unindicted co-conspirators

[Bucky Junior]

Absolutely NO need for crying. You have and use the premier text editing 
program, yes?

Having and using BBEdit should be an occasion for elation.

> On Mar 11, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Luis Speciale  wrote:
> 
> Oh my… I thought it was some sort of Club and it's a function returning my 
> name. I feel like crying now.

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Re: Code coloring goes away after some edits

[Bucky Junior]

My code coloring changes as I am editing PHP or HTML mixed in the same 
document. If it doesn’t change back when I think I’m done with a section, then 
I need to look for errors in my coding.

Of course other BBEdit users don’t make coding errors.


> On May 11, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Troy Meyers  wrote:
> 
> I'm working on a PHP in HTML page, also has JavaScript in it. Sometimes when 
> I'm editing, maybe just when typing in HTML tags, the code coloring goes 
> away, perhaps it's all the coloring below the edit, and it doesn't come back 
> when I close the tag or add the  tag. If I save the file and 
> close it, then reopen it, the coloring is restored.
> 
> Is this a bug? Is there a "Refresh" function so that I don't have to close 
> and reopen?
> 
> I don't know if it's related, but just after this happened the most recent 
> time, BBEdit beach balled and I had to force quit after a few minutes when I 
> gave up. I didn't get to save, close, reopen. I've got the "problem report".
> 
> BBEdit 11.6.5 (397066) Yosemite 10.10.5  24GB RAM  3.2 GHz Intel Core i5
> 
> Troy
> 

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Re: Auto-select search selected when text is selected

[Bucky Junior]

On the other hand, if I wanted to see how many times I had over used a phrase 
in something I was writing, I would highlight “from my personal experience and 
in my opinion”, copy it, open the find dialog box, paste in my selected text, I 
would have to uncheck the find in selected text box to look for occurrences.

>From my personal experience and in my opinion, I don’t think it can be 
>presumed that others are going to do searches like I will.

Bucky

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Neil Faiman  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Fletcher Sandbeck > > wrote:
>> 
>> You can toggle that setting using a key shortcut, Ctrl-Shift-s. You can see 
>> all the shortcuts for the Find Windows shortcuts in the Menus & Shortcuts 
>> preferences. Or, switch them to something easier.
> 
> Yes, but what he was requesting was a little extra cleverness built in.
> 
> Think about it … if you open the Find dialog and you don’t have a current 
> selection, the odds are near zero that you want to do a “find in selection” — 
> so why should you have to toggle a checkbox?
> 
> Contrariwise, if you do have a selection, the odds are pretty good that you 
> want to search in the selection — so why should you have to toggle a check 
> box?
> 
> Years ago, I used a text editor on Windows that actually improved on this 
> heuristic: it assumed that you wanted to “find in selection” if you had a 
> current selection that was more than one line long. My experience was that 
> this was what I wanted probably 99% of the time.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>   Neil Faiman
> 
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Re: BBEdit 12 released?

[Bucky Junior]

How about barebones.com  >? Specifically =
http://www.barebones.com/store/  
>

> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Michael Mak  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> So 12 was released and I can upgrade now?
> 
> Michael
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Re: Live Preview On BBedit

[Bucky Junior]

BBEdit’s Live Preview will render HTML documents with various options. Mostly 
from memory:

With an HTML type file open, from the menu, select Markup -> Preview in BBEdit. 
Or, with the HTML tools palette >Window -> Palettes -> HTML Tools Palette, 
select Preview in BBEdit.

In the Preview window, you can also select pre-defined templates or CSS files 
to wrap around the content of the HTML file.

The BBEdit Manual is a wonderful document included with the program found in 
the Help menu. Search for “Previewing Pages.” I found it in Chapter 11, page 
238 in my version 11.6.8 of BBEdit.

That said, Live Preview renders HTML elements in my experience. It won’t 
process PHP and I don’t know about other languages. There are more experienced 
users who can speak about other languages. In order to process programming, a 
file needs to be saved and run through a browser like Safari.

Best.

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
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> 
> I have searched various instructional videos on how to use BBEdit, but I 
> haven't found much. I haven't been able to figure out how to "Live Preview" 
> anything. It shows that you can do it, but I can't figure out how. Could 
> someone tell/show me how? 
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Re: Are there any special features about this code editor?

[Bucky Junior]

Whew! This is bound to bring out the evangelists.

First, BBEdit is Mac OS only. Notepad++is Windows only and Brackets appears to 
be platform agnostic. I’ve not tried either of those.

BBEdit is, to say the least, powerful. I’m not a heavy weight user and only use 
a fraction of what the program is capable of doing. Without making lists here, 
you can view the seven chapter product tour starting at 
>. I see a link 
to Testimonials on that page too.

I only write and maintain a few web sites and _might_ be able to do my work 
with a lesser product but having all the options are worth it to me. My 
daughter uses a much more expensive Adobe product (more of a WYSIWYG interface) 
but I prefer cleaner coding that I get with BBEdit.

Tips and tricks? Read the manual and try things out. Read the product tour and 
pick out things that appeal to your method of working. Pick out things that 
will solve problems for you. Read the manual and try things out. Continue 
monitoring this group because there are some wonderful helpful people here.
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Madelyn Bingham  
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> 
> Can someone tell me what makes BBEdit different or better than other code 
> editors? I understand it is mostly geared towards Apple Products, but I could 
> just as easily download Notepad++ or Brackets on my Macintosh, which seem to 
> be more popular. Are there any special features about BBEdit that make it 
> special or set it apart? What are some tips and tricks to using this code 
> editor?
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Finally got V12

[Bucky Junior]

Yes. I finally ordered the upgrade to version 12.0.2 today.

Okay. I’m a little slow. I’m a little old. My memory vaguely remembers version 
4.something with a printed manual that needed severe editing.

It’s not quite installed yet. I’ve been making the transition from Yosemite to 
Sierra over the past several months. Okay. I’m a little slow. I’m a little old. 
I wanted to do a “clean” install and I’ve got so many internal settings and 
cruft that it has taken a while to sort out some of it.

I can hardly wait to fire up V12 and see how it runs…probably like on 12 
cylinders.

Bucky

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Re: Duplicate quotation marks

[Bucky Junior]

Yes, David, you are correct about it being a preference. It may have been there 
for quite some time. I can’t tell you when.

Look in Preferences —>Completion —>Insert matching delimiters while typing.

Selected, it will double the double quotes, single quotes, parentheses, square 
brackets, curly brackets, and who knows what else. Oh, Barebones knows.

My preference is to have that off. I guess that’s why it is in the Preferences.

Bucky

> On Feb 3, 2018, at 2:12 PM, David Brostoff  wrote:
> 
> With BBEdit 12.0.2 (MacBook Pro 2017 15-inch, macOS 10.13.2, ABC - Extended 
> keyboard in System Preferences), whenever I type a double quotation mark, two 
> sets of double quotation marks are displayed.
> 
> In other words, when I type ", the result is "", with the cursor placed 
> between the two quotation marks.
> 
> I think this started with 10.13.
> 
> Maybe a preference needs to be changed?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> David
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Re: Restoring a window after opening in a new window

[Bucky Junior]

Robyn,

You may find that BBEdit’s projects keep files together the way you want. See 
page 65 of the BBEdit Manual (12.12). Easy to load up a set of files. Easy to 
put them away for another time.

"A project is a special kind of BBEdit file that contains references to other 
files and folders, including aliases and URL clippings."

Bucky

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Robyn Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your post Neil. This is going to make it much easier for me to 
> manage my open files. I wondered if you knew of a way to group certain files 
> together for the next editing session, so that you could be selective about 
> which files appeared in the side bar without having to manage them manually 
> each time. Any suggestions?

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Re: Grep question

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> On Oct 8, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Cory Robertson  
> wrote:
> 
>  \[*\] 

Cory, you were searching for
 \[* - literal left bracket, zero or more
 Immediately followed by
\]  - literal right bracket

Grep didn’t find the two next to each other but did find zero instances of left 
bracket and right bracket so deleted the single right bracket.

I haven’t tested but think that Mark’s would not find the correct instance. The 
problem I see is two digits for the hour where your sample has only one digit 
and missing the AM or PM.

Marek’s suggestion uses a ^] which I’ve never used. Sounds good though and 
works with the four times I tested.

I would have done something a little more messy. Perl mongers might disapprove.

\[ - literal left bracket
\d{1,2} - digit, at least one, at most 2
: - semicolon
\d{2} - digit, two
  - space
[AP]M - single character A or P, followed by M
\] - literal right bracket

So find \[\d{1,2}:\d{2} [AP]M\] and replace with nothing. Works with the four 
times I tried.

Bucky

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Re: Assigning BBEdit to be the editor for Xcode

[Bucky Junior]

I’m just an amateur here but are you dragging the files from the finder window 
into the upper part of the BBEdit project window. That’s how I keep my projects 
together.
Bucky

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Michael Brian Bentley  wrote:
> 
> I'm working with both Xcode and Android Studio, editing files in weird 
> programming languages. The project panes in either of these IDEs do not list 
> most of the compiland files because they're not handled by them. Neither 
> Xcode nor Android Studio show a complete set of source files.
> 
> The notion of "assigning BBEdit to be the editor for Xcode" only works well 
> if you can click on the files in the project folder.
> 
> The Visual Studio Code app purports to provide ways to build apps in these 
> weird languages, but we at work here just use the thing for finding and 
> editing files. My co-worker prefers this app because the "project" pane 
> actually shows all the files. I've been using a finder window and 
> double-clicking files to open them in BBEdit; my co-worker thinks of this 
> arrangement as "arcane" and more work to set up and maintain.
> 
> I'd like to be able to work from BBEdit, keying off of a finder window-like 
> pane. Just to shut my co-worker up. Am I a bad person to desire this? :)
> 
> Mike
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