Pluto-inflicted? (was: Re: to Jane Sherry)
From: "Garuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:02:46 +1300 Re: to Jane SherryYes Moon Venus Saturn Pluto is the next few days Power issues, control, emotional sensitivity, bottom lines are challenged all this week. Any persecutor, victim, saviour issues should be on display. Relationship hidden or delayed, cum denied matters all come to a head. Keep an eye on the MArs transit to follow around the 15th Feb. (Can georgey boy keep his finger off the trigger from then on?) Here is the rest of the worlds chance to keep the US back in some form of box. CAn we do it??? The perrennial question of Pluto inflicted people - how to manage the raging self obcessed psychopath that lives in the basement?. GA GA, Is our Resident Pluto-inflicted, then? I thought the problem was a combo of brainwashed-to-value-money-mongerers/grubbers-above-all-else (c.f. decimation of envt'l regs/elevating of corporate enrichment schemes) and a reported IQ of 88. Jane Parker wrote >Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right now on this micorsosmic scale? Please we are brothers and sisters here, and I would urge and invite us to request of one another and ask of one another not point fingers or blame or sound condescending etc..in our communications with each and the other. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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Dear Jane, I personally support you even if some thin skinned males think that you need to comply with their wishes and insecurities. Articles which you and Curtis forward help to round out the perspective that we in Australia are given by our government which has traditionally supported the US for the last 40 years. To follow the disinformation which has been perpetuated in the name of journalism/propaganda from governments all over the world leads to the insular perspectives that allow governments to subvert democracy as is being done now. In Australia we have sent troops overseas to support George Bush in his quest for world domination. The parliament has not been recalled to debate the issue as our Prime Minister, John Howard, declares that this is a government to Government matter and that it has nothing to do with the Australian people. The quote from Will Winter , "When I lived in Alaska, almost everyone got a "hair trigger" attitude starting around January. After a while you learned, and nobody said nuthin'to nobody lessin' they were looking for trouble. We were all armed too (which does make for a more polite society)!" maybe indicates a great deal of insecurity in a lot of males in the US if they need to keep guns to make for a more polite society. Is that the reason for going to Iraq, to get this trigger happy society something to do. Jane, just keep on reminding that there is a spiritual component to life and that man does not live by bread alone. You can tell when you are being most effective when you start to worry other members of the list that they need to shut you up. Just keep up the good work. Dont let them shut you up. Go well, James Hedley. What does- Original Message - From: "Jane Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry > Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists, > > I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods > divorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I am > tired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions > or just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger > whole. I am tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary to > sometimes forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch on > spirituality, drought, politics and war from around the world. > > Here in the northern hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot of > conversation on this list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasive > fear and paranoia that my government so successfully is spreading around. I > really felt that woman journalist's piece to be totally germaine to our > conversations on bdnow, because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLE > who our government is intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is never > black and white. People who are our so called enemies, are still human, with > spirits, souls, families and complicated life situations. > > Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the embargo so that Iraqi children > and their parents could receive much needed medicines and food, especially > now that we have spent umpty years polluting their country with plutonium > and god only knows what else? Perhaps that would inspire their leaders to > give up their weapons. > > Wouldn't it be nice if the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't have > to process all your ire? Believe it or not, Will and the many others who no > doubt complain to Allan and me on this list, I actually choose very > carefully the posts I send in to bdnow. I usually (or try to) even include > the OT (off topic) in the subject header even though, in my world, these > posts are NOT OFF TOPIC. > > If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this stuff. For > those of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster connection > feel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription info to be > on the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on the web, > if you don't want all the messages coming into your mailbox. > > So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and keep wondering > how to get those ideas out in the world. > > Sorry, Allan, but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now, I > am over and out. Call me a lurker. > > Jane Sherry > > > From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600 > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: to Jane Sherry > > > >> this stuff, which > >> mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's- > >> mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!! > > > > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE? > > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP! > > JEEZ!!! > > > > WGW > > > >
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Title: Re: to Jane Sherry Yes Moon Venus Saturn Pluto is the next few days Power issues, control, emotional sensitivity, bottom lines are challenged all this week. Any persecutor, victim, saviour issues should be on display. Relationship hidden or delayed, cum denied matters all come to a head. Keep an eye on the MArs transit to follow around the 15th Feb. (Can georgey boy keep his finger off the trigger from then on?) Here is the rest of the worlds chance to keep the US back in some form of box. CAn we do it??? The perrennial question of Pluto inflicted people - how to manage the raging self obcessed psychopath that lives in the basement?. GA - Original Message - From: Moen Creek To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry In my option all of this just the finger points to the Moon and that's BDNow FolksIn Love * LightMarkessOH ya Kristo writes the midwestern's view of this: Tuesday 1/28/03The Sagittarian MOON Conjuncts PLUTO (in his Coniunctio to VENUS, and theirOpposition to SATURN) at 6:35 AM CST -6GMT. Are there any lessons for the day???That's a good question because the word "lesson" requires a bit of attention in thecurrent zeitgeist. In most instances it tends to imply some sort of payoff attached to anexperience which may or may not be felt as uncomfortable, unpleasant or even boring. Italso seems to imply the presence of a teacher, and of course...a student. Today...wemeet them all. LUNA Conjuncts VENUS at 12:13 PM, Opposes SATURN at 12:43 PM, and VENUSexactly Opposes SATURN at 6:13 PM. Life is no classroom, although we spend plenty oftime in them. Life isn't a teacher, although plenty of time is spent sitting in front of them.Life is neither subject nor object, although we take some stuff personally and some stuffobjectively. LUNA Sextiles unaspected URANUS at 9:26 PM, and goes Void of Course for 4 hoursand 4 minutes. All students of life graduate today...and then take a short vacation.School's out...and it's never going to resume. There's no payoff...there's only the Tao. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jane Parker wrote>Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right now on this micorsosmic scale? Please we are brothers and sisters here, and I would urge and invite us to request of one another and ask of one another not point fingers or blame or sound condescending etc..in our communications with each and the other.
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Hi Jane, ALthough I dont get time to read all the posts you put on BDNOw, I really appreciate it. I would have no chance of reading or checking out the whole websites/papers that others are able to access and read. So if you decide to run a separate mailing list for your other news stories, I would like to be on it please. I have especially taken note of the nutritional stories, as I find it interesting watching the evolving awakening to real food in the USA. AS we follow US leads in Australia, I know we are a few years behind in this change - not that we always go as far into things as Americans seem to do. I have also appreciated the stories re the Iraq war and Bush Admin. I have sent quite a few to a nephew in USA, who is far right and pro Bush, and he repudiates them, so I am learning quite a lot of the different approaches . He recently visited me here and was thrilled that at least I listened and stayed friends - more than he could do at home. I just find it so fascinating how all this information can be twisted to show whatever truth we want. It happens in every aspect of life and I see this as one of those lessons in learning discernment. We work with this "aspect of truth" in so many areas of life - the GE debate, conventional agriculture versus organic/BD, even into how we work with Biodynamics!! So how can we ever hope to know the truth if we dont get to see all sides of the discussion. That was what Steiner asked Pfeiffer to do - learn it all, science and Anthrposophical , then compare to find the truth in the matter. So Jane, I find it sad that people do not want this included in the BD Now site, maybe it will come back in other ways at some later stage. Cheryl Kemp Education and Workshop Coordinator Biodynamic AgriCulture Australia Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.biodynamics.net.au - Original Message - From: "Jane Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry > Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists,
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Title: Re: to Jane Sherry In my option all of this just the finger points to the Moon and that's BDNow Folks In Love * Light Markess OH ya Kristo writes the midwestern's view of this: Tuesday 1/28/03 The Sagittarian MOON Conjuncts PLUTO (in his Coniunctio to VENUS, and their Opposition to SATURN) at 6:35 AM CST -6GMT. Are there any lessons for the day??? That's a good question because the word "lesson" requires a bit of attention in the current zeitgeist. In most instances it tends to imply some sort of payoff attached to an experience which may or may not be felt as uncomfortable, unpleasant or even boring. It also seems to imply the presence of a teacher, and of course...a student. Today...we meet them all. LUNA Conjuncts VENUS at 12:13 PM, Opposes SATURN at 12:43 PM, and VENUS exactly Opposes SATURN at 6:13 PM. Life is no classroom, although we spend plenty of time in them. Life isn't a teacher, although plenty of time is spent sitting in front of them. Life is neither subject nor object, although we take some stuff personally and some stuff objectively. LUNA Sextiles unaspected URANUS at 9:26 PM, and goes Void of Course for 4 hours and 4 minutes. All students of life graduate today...and then take a short vacation. School's out...and it's never going to resume. There's no payoff...there's only the Tao. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jane Parker wrote >Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right now on this micorsosmic scale? Please we are brothers and sisters here, and I would urge and invite us to request of one another and ask of one another not point fingers or blame or sound condescending etc..in our communications with each and the other.
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Thanks Christo! > From: "Christo van Staden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:25:56 +0200 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry > > Jane > I find your posts useful and informative, and not unrelated to the concerns > of Biodynamics. I would surely miss this contribution if you were to stop. > Any community need someone to bring in some news from the "outside" - this > email community is no different. And I have a Third World telephone > connection, so how bad can it be in terms of bandwidth? I simply delete what > I don't want to read. > Christo >
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Jane I find your posts useful and informative, and not unrelated to the concerns of Biodynamics. I would surely miss this contribution if you were to stop. Any community need someone to bring in some news from the "outside" - this email community is no different. And I have a Third World telephone connection, so how bad can it be in terms of bandwidth? I simply delete what I don't want to read. Christo
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Jane, Lately, I am tentatively noticing and striving to make distinctions regarding communication styles. I think this could be ( but not as literal as main stream definition mind you) a gender thing. No offense or defense intended fellas, because I am very straightforward in my style, and temprement read(masculine) ANd it would be worthy of noting what is ocurring in the cycle of the earth and how we need to be tender with ourselves and each other right now. Jane,I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE what you provide here on the posts. I woudl feel a tremendous loss if you indeed leave now,. Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right now on this micorsosmic scale? Please we are brothers and sisters here, and I would urge and invite us to request of one another and ask of one another not point fingers or blame or sound condescending etc..in our communications with each and the other. I also do not receive mainstream publications as I am not certain of their motives and as well as their stockholders agendas. So Jane, you have been a gold mine for me these cold winter months. WOuld you be willing to re-consider? BLessings, Jane Parker
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Please, how can my e-mail address be taken off of your listings? Sam Koontz - Original Message - From: Essie Hull To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:12 PM Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry Will is really remarkable in his paternalistic, rude, hostile and most unimaginative remarks. Gil is an expert at the indirect putdown. Interesting that no one ever complains about crass or sexist posts. Interesting that no one ever blinks an eye when members share their daily number of hard ons with the list. But Jane, on a regular basis, is roasted for sharing posts of (in my opinion) relevance to the wider purview. BD as we all acknowledge in other contexts (except as it relates to Jane's postings) is related as widely as is subtle energy. We all are able to hit delete easily, and her posts are always listed under OT. Give me a break that her posts are a problem.Sorry I'm being rude. I acknowledge that I am being rude. There are in my opinion some elitist unconscious individuals here who sometimes try my patience beyond my ability to deal with them in a civilized way.Again, sorry. I'm sure I'll pull myself together in short order. But I do need to hit Send on this one.Essie At 11:01 AM 01/28/03 +1030, you wrote:>I'm with you, Will.>>I am quite capable of finding all the information I require, without having>it chosen for me.>>I actually sit on this list in the hope of gleaning some information on>Biodynamics.>>Jane could you post your material to another list, such as the "Not BD Now">list. It would save us, collectively, hours a day deleting it, so we can read>that which we are interested in - BD and the like.>>Gil>>Will Winter wrote:>> > > this stuff, which> > > mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-> > > mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!> >> > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?> > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!> > JEEZ!!!> >> > WGW
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on 28/1/03 1:09 PM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > John Buckley wrote> > .> No need to be divisive here. I can't believe that hitting the delete > key takes "hours". > If you don't like it, skip/delete it. I, for one, > want the option. I'm here to learn, not > >> argue. > Just another 'lurker' > John Buckley > Mountains Western NC > > I agree with John - I dont always agree with Jane's opinions - but I'd like > the option to decide, and I think her contribution to the list is positive. > Not a lurker > L Charles > > > > Although this may be on the way to bed, for all that Jane gets thrown at her at times, I'd like to express my thanks to you Jane. I really enjoy the posts, as I just do not have the time to be on top of the news along with study, kids and the land. Hope you are still with us Jane and continue with your contributions. L&L Liz
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Will is really remarkable in his paternalistic, rude, hostile and most unimaginative remarks. Gil is an expert at the indirect putdown. Interesting that no one ever complains about crass or sexist posts. Interesting that no one ever blinks an eye when members share their daily number of hard ons with the list. But Jane, on a regular basis, is roasted for sharing posts of (in my opinion) relevance to the wider purview. BD as we all acknowledge in other contexts (except as it relates to Jane's postings) is related as widely as is subtle energy. We all are able to hit delete easily, and her posts are always listed under OT. Give me a break that her posts are a problem. Sorry I'm being rude. I acknowledge that I am being rude. There are in my opinion some elitist unconscious individuals here who sometimes try my patience beyond my ability to deal with them in a civilized way. Again, sorry. I'm sure I'll pull myself together in short order. But I do need to hit Send on this one. Essie At 11:01 AM 01/28/03 +1030, you wrote: I'm with you, Will. I am quite capable of finding all the information I require, without having it chosen for me. I actually sit on this list in the hope of gleaning some information on Biodynamics. Jane could you post your material to another list, such as the "Not BD Now" list. It would save us, collectively, hours a day deleting it, so we can read that which we are interested in - BD and the like. Gil Will Winter wrote: > > this stuff, which > > mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's- > > mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!! > > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE? > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP! > JEEZ!!! > > WGW
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Well said, John. Christiane [EMAIL PROTECTED]@envirolink.org on 28/01/2003 12:32:21 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: to Jane Sherry Everyone has a valid point, so then what? Jane's point about the woman journalist in Afghanistan is well taken, by me. No need to be divisive here. I can't believe that hitting the delete key takes "hours". If you don't like it, skip/delete it. I, for one, want the option. I'm here to learn, not argue. Just another 'lurker' John Buckley Mountains Western NC - Original Message - From: Jane Sherry To: Bdnow Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists, I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods divorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I am tired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions or just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger whole. I am tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary to sometimes forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch on spirituality, drought, politics and war from around the world. Here in the northern hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot of conversation on this list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasive fear and paranoia that my government so successfully is spreading around. I really felt that woman journalist's piece to be totally germaine to our conversations on bdnow, because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLE who our government is intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is never black and white. People who are our so called enemies, are still human, with spirits, souls, families and complicated life situations. Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the embargo so that Iraqi children and their parents could receive much needed medicines and food, especially now that we have spent umpty years polluting their country with plutonium and god only knows what else? Perhaps that would inspire their leaders to give up their weapons. Wouldn't it be nice if the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't have to process all your ire? Believe it or not, Will and the many others who no doubt complain to Allan and me on this list, I actually choose very carefully the posts I send in to bdnow. I usually (or try to) even include the OT (off topic) in the subject header even though, in my world, these posts are NOT OFF TOPIC. If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this stuff. For those of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster connection feel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription info to be on the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on the web, if you don't want all the messages coming into your mailbox. So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and keep wondering how to get those ideas out in the world. Sorry, Allan, but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now, I am over and out. Call me a lurker. Jane Sherry > From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: to Jane Sherry > >> this stuff, which >> mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's- >> mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!! > > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE? > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP! > JEEZ!!! > > WGW >
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John Buckley wrote> .> No need to be divisive here. I can't believe that hitting the delete key takes "hours". > If you don't like it, skip/delete it. I, for one, want the option. I'm here to learn, not > > argue. Just another 'lurker' John Buckley Mountains Western NC I agree with John - I dont always agree with Jane's opinions - but I'd like the option to decide, and I think her contribution to the list is positive. Not a lurker L Charles
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Everyone has a valid point, so then what? Jane's point about the woman journalist in Afghanistan is well taken, by me. No need to be divisive here. I can't believe that hitting the delete key takes "hours". If you don't like it, skip/delete it. I, for one, want the option. I'm here to learn, not argue. Just another 'lurker' John Buckley Mountains Western NC - Original Message - From: Jane Sherry To: Bdnow Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists, I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methodsdivorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I amtired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotionsor just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a largerwhole. I am tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary tosometimes forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch onspirituality, drought, politics and war from around the world.Here in the northern hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot ofconversation on this list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasivefear and paranoia that my government so successfully is spreading around. Ireally felt that woman journalist's piece to be totally germaine to ourconversations on bdnow, because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLEwho our government is intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is neverblack and white. People who are our so called enemies, are still human, withspirits, souls, families and complicated life situations.Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the embargo so that Iraqi childrenand their parents could receive much needed medicines and food, especiallynow that we have spent umpty years polluting their country with plutoniumand god only knows what else? Perhaps that would inspire their leaders togive up their weapons.Wouldn't it be nice if the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't haveto process all your ire? Believe it or not, Will and the many others who nodoubt complain to Allan and me on this list, I actually choose verycarefully the posts I send in to bdnow. I usually (or try to) even includethe OT (off topic) in the subject header even though, in my world, theseposts are NOT OFF TOPIC.If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this stuff. Forthose of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster connectionfeel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription info to beon the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on the web,if you don't want all the messages coming into your mailbox.So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and keep wonderinghow to get those ideas out in the world.Sorry, Allan, but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now, Iam over and out. Call me a lurker.Jane Sherry> From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: to Jane Sherry> >> this stuff, which>> mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's->> mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!> > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?> HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!> JEEZ!!!> > WGW>
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Thank you Jane, Last time I dared to mention that I did not understand why, in the face if Allan's stand on short emails, he allowed your seemingly endless, non original postings, he threatened to unsub me. So this time he may do just that. I do not understand why you think that an interest in BD necessarily means we are not capable of accessing our own information. I find that to be an unreasonable generalisation. I for one will enjoy the reduction of non theme traffic. Gil Jane Sherry wrote: > Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists, > > I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods > divorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I am > tired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions > or just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger > whole.
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I'm with you, Will. I am quite capable of finding all the information I require, without having it chosen for me. I actually sit on this list in the hope of gleaning some information on Biodynamics. Jane could you post your material to another list, such as the "Not BD Now" list. It would save us, collectively, hours a day deleting it, so we can read that which we are interested in - BD and the like. Gil Will Winter wrote: > > this stuff, which > > mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's- > > mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!! > > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE? > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP! > JEEZ!!! > > WGW
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Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists, I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods divorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I am tired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions or just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger whole. I am tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary to sometimes forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch on spirituality, drought, politics and war from around the world. Here in the northern hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot of conversation on this list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasive fear and paranoia that my government so successfully is spreading around. I really felt that woman journalist's piece to be totally germaine to our conversations on bdnow, because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLE who our government is intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is never black and white. People who are our so called enemies, are still human, with spirits, souls, families and complicated life situations. Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the embargo so that Iraqi children and their parents could receive much needed medicines and food, especially now that we have spent umpty years polluting their country with plutonium and god only knows what else? Perhaps that would inspire their leaders to give up their weapons. Wouldn't it be nice if the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't have to process all your ire? Believe it or not, Will and the many others who no doubt complain to Allan and me on this list, I actually choose very carefully the posts I send in to bdnow. I usually (or try to) even include the OT (off topic) in the subject header even though, in my world, these posts are NOT OFF TOPIC. If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this stuff. For those of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster connection feel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription info to be on the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on the web, if you don't want all the messages coming into your mailbox. So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and keep wondering how to get those ideas out in the world. Sorry, Allan, but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now, I am over and out. Call me a lurker. Jane Sherry > From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: to Jane Sherry > >> this stuff, which >> mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's- >> mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!! > > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE? > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP! > JEEZ!!! > > WGW >
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> this stuff, which > mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's- > mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!! IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE? HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP! JEEZ!!! WGW