Pluto-inflicted? (was: Re: to Jane Sherry)

2003-01-30 Thread Peace Beours
From: "Garuda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

...

Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:02:46 +1300

Re: to Jane SherryYes Moon Venus Saturn Pluto is the next few days
Power issues, control, emotional sensitivity, bottom lines are challenged 
all this week. Any persecutor, victim, saviour issues should be on display. 
Relationship hidden or delayed, cum denied matters all come to a head.
Keep an eye on the MArs transit to follow around the 15th Feb. (Can georgey 
boy keep his finger off the trigger from then on?)
Here is the rest of the worlds chance to keep the US back in some form of 
box. CAn we do it???
The perrennial question of Pluto inflicted people - how to manage the 
raging self obcessed psychopath that lives in the basement?.
GA

GA,
Is our Resident Pluto-inflicted, then? I thought the problem was a combo of 
brainwashed-to-value-money-mongerers/grubbers-above-all-else (c.f. 
decimation of envt'l regs/elevating of corporate enrichment schemes) and a 
reported IQ of 88.


Jane Parker  wrote
>Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right 
now on this micorsosmic scale?
Please we are brothers and sisters here, and I would urge and invite 
us to request of one another and ask of one another not point fingers or 
blame or sound condescending etc..in our communications with each and the 
other.





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Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-29 Thread James Hedley
Dear Jane,
I personally support you even if some thin skinned males think that you need
to comply with their wishes and insecurities. Articles which you and Curtis
forward help to round out the perspective that we in Australia are given by
our government which has traditionally supported the US for the last 40
years.
To follow the disinformation which has been perpetuated in the name of
journalism/propaganda from governments all over the world leads to the
insular perspectives that allow governments to subvert democracy as is being
done now. In Australia we have sent troops overseas to support George Bush
in his quest for world domination. The parliament has not been recalled to
debate the issue as our Prime Minister, John Howard, declares that this is a
government to Government matter and that it has nothing to do with the
Australian people.
The quote from Will Winter , "When I lived in Alaska, almost everyone got a
"hair trigger" attitude
starting around January.  After a while you learned, and nobody said
nuthin'to nobody lessin' they were looking for trouble. We were all armed
too (which does make for a more polite society)!" maybe indicates a great
deal of insecurity in a lot of males in the US if they need to keep guns to
make for a more polite society. Is that the reason for going to Iraq, to get
this trigger happy society something to do.
Jane, just keep on reminding that there is a spiritual component to life and
that man does not live by bread alone. You can tell when you are being most
effective when you start to worry other members of the list that they need
to shut you up. Just keep up the good work. Dont let them shut you up.
Go well,
James Hedley.


What does- Original Message -
From: "Jane Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry


> Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists,
>
>  I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods
> divorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I
am
> tired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions
> or just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger
> whole. I am tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary
to
> sometimes forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch on
> spirituality, drought, politics and war from around the world.
>
> Here in the northern hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot
of
> conversation on this list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasive
> fear and paranoia that my government so successfully is spreading around.
I
> really felt that woman journalist's piece to be totally germaine to our
> conversations on bdnow, because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLE
> who our government is intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is never
> black and white. People who are our so called enemies, are still human,
with
> spirits, souls, families and complicated life situations.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the embargo so that Iraqi
children
> and their parents could receive much needed medicines and food, especially
> now that we have spent umpty years polluting their country with plutonium
> and god only knows what else? Perhaps that would inspire their leaders to
> give up their weapons.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't have
> to process all your ire? Believe it or not, Will and the many others who
no
> doubt complain to Allan and me on this list, I actually choose very
> carefully the posts I send in to bdnow. I usually (or try to) even include
> the OT (off  topic) in the subject header even though, in my world, these
> posts are NOT OFF TOPIC.
>
> If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this stuff. For
> those of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster connection
> feel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription info to
be
> on the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on the web,
> if you don't want all the messages coming into your mailbox.
>
> So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and keep
wondering
> how to get those ideas out in the world.
>
> Sorry, Allan, but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now,
I
> am over and out. Call me a lurker.
>
> Jane Sherry
>
> > From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: to Jane Sherry
> >
> >> this stuff, which
> >> mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-
> >> mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!
> >
> > IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?
> > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!
> > JEEZ!!!
> >
> > WGW
> >
>
>




Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-28 Thread Garuda
Title: Re: to Jane Sherry



Yes Moon Venus Saturn Pluto is the next few 
days
Power issues, control, emotional sensitivity, 
bottom lines are challenged all this week. Any persecutor, victim, saviour 
issues should be on display. Relationship hidden or delayed, cum 
denied matters all come to a head.
Keep an eye on the MArs transit to follow around 
the 15th Feb. (Can georgey boy keep his finger off the trigger from then 
on?) 
Here is the rest of the worlds chance to keep the 
US back in some form of box. CAn we do it??? 
The perrennial question of Pluto inflicted people 
- how to manage the raging self obcessed psychopath that lives in the 
basement?.
GA
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Moen Creek 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:10 
  AM
  Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry
  In my option all of this just the finger points to the Moon and 
  that's BDNow FolksIn Love * LightMarkessOH ya Kristo writes 
  the midwestern's view of this: Tuesday 1/28/03The Sagittarian MOON 
  Conjuncts PLUTO (in his Coniunctio to VENUS, and theirOpposition to 
  SATURN) at 6:35 AM CST -6GMT. Are there any lessons for the day???That's a 
  good question because the word "lesson" requires a bit of attention in 
  thecurrent zeitgeist. In most instances it tends to imply some sort of 
  payoff attached to anexperience which may or may not be felt as 
  uncomfortable, unpleasant or even boring. Italso seems to imply the 
  presence of a teacher, and of course...a student. Today...wemeet them all. 
  LUNA Conjuncts VENUS at 12:13 PM, Opposes SATURN at 12:43 PM, and 
  VENUSexactly Opposes SATURN at 6:13 PM. Life is no classroom, although we 
  spend plenty oftime in them. Life isn't a teacher, although plenty of time 
  is spent sitting in front of them.Life is neither subject nor object, 
  although we take some stuff personally and some stuffobjectively. 
  LUNA Sextiles unaspected URANUS at 9:26 PM, and goes Void of Course 
  for 4 hoursand 4 minutes. All students of life graduate today...and then 
  take a short vacation.School's out...and it's never going to resume. 
  There's no payoff...there's only the Tao.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Jane Parker  wrote>Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right 
now on this micorsosmic scale? Please we are brothers and sisters here, 
and I would urge and invite us to request of one another and ask of one 
another not point fingers or blame or sound condescending etc..in our 
communications with each and the other. 



Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-28 Thread Cheryl Kemp
Hi Jane,
ALthough I dont get time to read all the posts you put on BDNOw, I really
appreciate it. I would have no chance of reading or checking out the whole
websites/papers that others are able to access and read.

So if you decide to run a separate mailing list for your other news stories,
I would like to be on it please.

I have especially taken note of the nutritional stories, as I find it
interesting watching the evolving awakening to real food in the USA. AS we
follow US leads in Australia, I know we are a few years behind in this
change - not that we always go as far into things as Americans seem to do.

I have also appreciated the stories re the Iraq war and Bush Admin. I have
sent quite a few to a nephew in USA, who is far right and pro Bush, and he
repudiates them, so I am learning quite a lot of the different approaches .
He recently visited me here and was thrilled that at least I listened and
stayed friends - more than he could do at home.
 I just find it so fascinating how all this information can be twisted to
show whatever truth we want. It happens in every aspect of life and I see
this as one of those lessons in learning discernment.

We work with this "aspect of truth" in so many areas of life - the GE
debate, conventional agriculture versus organic/BD, even into how we work
with Biodynamics!! So how can we ever hope to know the truth if we dont get
to see all sides of the discussion.

That was what Steiner asked Pfeiffer to do - learn it all, science and
Anthrposophical , then compare to find the truth in the matter.

So Jane, I find it sad that people do not want this included in the BD Now
site, maybe it will come back in other ways at some later stage.

Cheryl Kemp
Education and Workshop Coordinator
Biodynamic AgriCulture Australia
Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322
Home: 02 6657 5306
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.biodynamics.net.au

- Original Message -
From: "Jane Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry


> Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists,




Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-28 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: to Jane Sherry



In my option all of this just the finger points to the Moon and that's BDNow Folks
In Love * Light
Markess

OH ya Kristo writes the midwestern's view of this: 
Tuesday 1/28/03

The Sagittarian MOON Conjuncts PLUTO (in his Coniunctio to VENUS, and their
Opposition to SATURN) at 6:35 AM CST -6GMT. Are there any lessons for the day???
That's a good question because the word "lesson" requires a bit of attention in the
current zeitgeist. In most instances it tends to imply some sort of payoff attached to an
experience which may or may not be felt as uncomfortable, unpleasant or even boring. It
also seems to imply the presence of a teacher, and of course...a student. Today...we
meet them all. 

LUNA Conjuncts VENUS at 12:13 PM, Opposes SATURN at 12:43 PM, and VENUS
exactly Opposes SATURN at 6:13 PM. Life is no classroom, although we spend plenty of
time in them. Life isn't a teacher, although plenty of time is spent sitting in front of them.
Life is neither subject nor object, although we take some stuff personally and some stuff
objectively. 

LUNA Sextiles unaspected URANUS at 9:26 PM, and goes Void of Course for 4 hours
and 4 minutes. All students of life graduate today...and then take a short vacation.
School's out...and it's never going to resume. There's no payoff...there's only the Tao.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jane Parker  wrote
>Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right now on this micorsosmic scale? 
Please we are brothers and sisters here, and I would urge and invite us to request of one another and ask of one another not point fingers or blame or sound condescending etc..in our communications with each and the other. 






Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-28 Thread Jane Sherry
Thanks Christo!

> From: "Christo van Staden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:25:56 +0200
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry
> 
> Jane
> I find your posts useful and informative, and not unrelated to the concerns
> of Biodynamics. I would surely miss this contribution if you were to stop.
> Any community need someone to bring in some news from the "outside" - this
> email community is no different. And I have a Third World telephone
> connection, so how bad can it be in terms of bandwidth? I simply delete what
> I don't want to read.
> Christo
> 




Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-28 Thread Christo van Staden
Jane
I find your posts useful and informative, and not unrelated to the concerns
of Biodynamics. I would surely miss this contribution if you were to stop.
Any community need someone to bring in some news from the "outside" - this
email community is no different. And I have a Third World telephone
connection, so how bad can it be in terms of bandwidth? I simply delete what
I don't want to read.
Christo




Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-28 Thread Prkrjake
Jane,
Lately, I am tentatively noticing and striving to make distinctions regarding communication styles.
I think this could be ( but  not as literal as main stream definition mind you) a gender thing. No offense or defense intended fellas, because I am very straightforward in my style, and temprement read(masculine) ANd it would be worthy of noting what is ocurring in the cycle of the earth and how we need to be tender with ourselves and each other right now.
Jane,I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE what you provide here on the posts. I woudl feel a tremendous loss if you indeed leave now,.
Is it possible we are acting out of the macrocosmic paradigm right now on this micorsosmic scale?
Please we are brothers and sisters here, and I would urge and invite us to request of one another and ask of one another not point fingers or blame or sound condescending etc..in our communications with each and the other.
I also do not receive mainstream publications as I am not certain of their motives and as well as their stockholders agendas.

So Jane, you have been a gold mine for me these cold winter months. WOuld you be willing to re-consider?
BLessings,
Jane Parker


Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-28 Thread S&J Koontz



Please, how can my e-mail address be taken off of your 
listings?  
 
Sam Koontz 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Essie Hull 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:12 
  PM
  Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry
  Will is really remarkable in his paternalistic, rude, hostile 
  and most unimaginative remarks.  Gil is an expert at the indirect 
  putdown.  Interesting that no one ever complains about crass or 
  sexist posts.  Interesting that no one ever blinks an eye when 
  members share their daily number of hard ons with the list.  But 
  Jane, on a regular basis, is roasted for sharing posts of (in my opinion) 
  relevance to the wider purview.  BD as we all acknowledge in other 
  contexts (except as it relates to Jane's postings) is related as widely as 
  is subtle energy. We all are able to hit delete easily, and her posts are 
  always listed under OT.  Give me a break that her posts are a 
  problem.Sorry I'm being rude. I acknowledge that I am being 
  rude.  There are in my opinion some elitist unconscious individuals 
  here who sometimes try my patience beyond my ability to deal with them in 
  a civilized way.Again, sorry.  I'm sure I'll pull myself together 
  in short order.  But I do need to hit Send on this 
  one.Essie  At 11:01 AM 01/28/03 +1030, you 
  wrote:>I'm with you, Will.>>I am quite capable of finding 
  all the information I require, without having>it chosen for 
  me.>>I actually sit on this list in the hope of gleaning some 
  information on>Biodynamics.>>Jane could you post your 
  material to another list, such as the "Not BD Now">list. It would save 
  us, collectively, hours a day deleting it, so we can read>that which we 
  are interested in - BD and the like.>>Gil>>Will 
  Winter wrote:>> > > this stuff, which> > > 
  mostly comes by way of my 
  ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-> > > mailing list. 
  If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!> >> > IS YOUR 
  REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?> > HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE 
  TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!> > JEEZ!!!> >> 
  > WGW


Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Liz Davis
on 28/1/03 1:09 PM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> John Buckley wrote>
> .>  No need to be divisive here.  I can't believe that hitting the delete
> key takes "hours".  > If you don't like it, skip/delete it.  I, for one,
> want the option.  I'm here to learn, not >
>> argue.
> Just another 'lurker'
> John Buckley
> Mountains Western NC
> 
> I agree with John - I dont always agree with Jane's opinions - but I'd like
> the option to decide, and I think her contribution to the list is positive.
> Not a lurker
> L Charles
> 
> 
> 
> 
Although this may be on the way to bed, for all that Jane gets thrown at her
at times, I'd like to express my thanks to you Jane.  I really enjoy the
posts, as I just do not have the time to be on top of the news along with
study, kids and the land.  Hope you are still with us Jane and continue with
your contributions.

L&L
Liz




Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Essie Hull
Will is really remarkable in his paternalistic, rude, hostile and most 
unimaginative remarks.  Gil is an expert at the indirect 
putdown.  Interesting that no one ever complains about crass or sexist 
posts.  Interesting that no one ever blinks an eye when members share their 
daily number of hard ons with the list.  But Jane, on a regular basis, is 
roasted for sharing posts of (in my opinion) relevance to the wider 
purview.  BD as we all acknowledge in other contexts (except as it relates 
to Jane's postings) is related as widely as is subtle energy. We all are 
able to hit delete easily, and her posts are always listed under OT.  Give 
me a break that her posts are a problem.

Sorry I'm being rude. I acknowledge that I am being rude.  There are in my 
opinion some elitist unconscious individuals here who sometimes try my 
patience beyond my ability to deal with them in a civilized way.

Again, sorry.  I'm sure I'll pull myself together in short order.  But I do 
need to hit Send on this one.
Essie


 At 11:01 AM 01/28/03 +1030, you wrote:
I'm with you, Will.

I am quite capable of finding all the information I require, without having
it chosen for me.

I actually sit on this list in the hope of gleaning some information on
Biodynamics.

Jane could you post your material to another list, such as the "Not BD Now"
list. It would save us, collectively, hours a day deleting it, so we can read
that which we are interested in - BD and the like.

Gil

Will Winter wrote:

> > this stuff, which
> > mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-
> > mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!
>
> IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?
> HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!
> JEEZ!!!
>
> WGW






Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Christiane . Jaeger

Well said, John.
Christiane




[EMAIL PROTECTED]@envirolink.org on 28/01/2003 12:32:21 PM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:

Subject:Re: to Jane Sherry



Everyone has a valid point, so then  what?  Jane's point about the woman
journalist in Afghanistan is well  taken, by me.  No need to be divisive
here.  I can't believe that  hitting the delete key takes "hours".  If you
don't like it, skip/delete  it.  I, for one, want the option.  I'm here to
learn, not  argue.

Just another 'lurker'
John Buckley
Mountains Western NC


- Original Message -
From: Jane Sherry
To: Bdnow
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry

Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists,

 I really do wish  you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods
divorced from  spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I
am
tired of being  the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions
or just  frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger
whole. I am  tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary
to
sometimes  forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch on
spirituality,  drought, politics and war from around the world.

Here in the northern  hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot
of
conversation on this  list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasive
fear and paranoia that  my government so successfully is spreading around.
I
really felt that woman  journalist's piece to be totally germaine to our
conversations on bdnow,  because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLE
who our government is  intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is never
black and white. People who  are our so called enemies, are still human,
with
spirits, souls, families and  complicated life situations.

Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the  embargo so that Iraqi
children
and their parents could receive much needed  medicines and food, especially
now that we have spent umpty years polluting  their country with plutonium
and god only knows what else? Perhaps that would  inspire their leaders to
give up their weapons.

Wouldn't it be nice if  the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't have
to process all your ire?  Believe it or not, Will and the many others who
no
doubt complain to Allan  and me on this list, I actually choose very
carefully the posts I send in to  bdnow. I usually (or try to) even include
the OT (off  topic) in the  subject header even though, in my world, these
posts are NOT OFF  TOPIC.

If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this  stuff. For
those of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster  connection
feel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription  info to
be
on the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on  the web,
if you don't want all the messages coming into your  mailbox.

So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and  keep
wondering
how to get those ideas out in the world.

Sorry, Allan,  but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now,
I
am over and  out. Call me a lurker.

Jane Sherry

> From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon,  27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  to Jane Sherry
>
>> this stuff, which
>> mostly comes  by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-
>> mailing  list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!
>
> IS YOUR  REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?
> HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY  YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!
> JEEZ!!!
>
> WGW
>








Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Lloyd Charles

 John Buckley wrote>
.>  No need to be divisive here.  I can't believe that hitting the delete
key takes "hours".  > If you don't like it, skip/delete it.  I, for one,
want the option.  I'm here to learn, not >
> argue.
Just another 'lurker'
John Buckley
Mountains Western NC

I agree with John - I dont always agree with Jane's opinions - but I'd like
the option to decide, and I think her contribution to the list is positive.
Not a lurker
L Charles






Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread John Buckley



Everyone has a valid point, so then 
what?  Jane's point about the woman journalist in Afghanistan is well 
taken, by me.  No need to be divisive here.  I can't believe that 
hitting the delete key takes "hours".  If you don't like it, skip/delete 
it.  I, for one, want the option.  I'm here to learn, not 
argue.
 
Just another 'lurker'
John Buckley
Mountains Western NC
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Jane Sherry 

To: Bdnow 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: to Jane Sherry 
Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists, I really do wish 
you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methodsdivorced from 
spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I amtired of being 
the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotionsor just 
frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a largerwhole. I am 
tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary tosometimes 
forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch onspirituality, 
drought, politics and war from around the world.Here in the northern 
hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot ofconversation on this 
list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasivefear and paranoia that 
my government so successfully is spreading around. Ireally felt that woman 
journalist's piece to be totally germaine to ourconversations on bdnow, 
because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLEwho our government is 
intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is neverblack and white. People who 
are our so called enemies, are still human, withspirits, souls, families and 
complicated life situations.Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the 
embargo so that Iraqi childrenand their parents could receive much needed 
medicines and food, especiallynow that we have spent umpty years polluting 
their country with plutoniumand god only knows what else? Perhaps that would 
inspire their leaders togive up their weapons.Wouldn't it be nice if 
the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't haveto process all your ire? 
Believe it or not, Will and the many others who nodoubt complain to Allan 
and me on this list, I actually choose verycarefully the posts I send in to 
bdnow. I usually (or try to) even includethe OT (off  topic) in the 
subject header even though, in my world, theseposts are NOT OFF 
TOPIC.If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this 
stuff. Forthose of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster 
connectionfeel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription 
info to beon the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on 
the web,if you don't want all the messages coming into your 
mailbox.So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and 
keep wonderinghow to get those ideas out in the world.Sorry, Allan, 
but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now, Iam over and 
out. Call me a lurker.Jane Sherry> From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 
27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: 
to Jane Sherry> >> this stuff, which>> mostly comes 
by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's->> mailing 
list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!> > IS YOUR 
REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?> HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY 
YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!> JEEZ!!!> > WGW> 



Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Gil Robertson
Thank you Jane, Last time I dared to mention that I did not understand why, in
the face if Allan's stand on short emails, he allowed your seemingly endless,
non original postings, he threatened to unsub me. So this time he may do just
that.

I do not understand why you think that an interest in BD necessarily means we
are not capable of accessing our own information. I find that to be an
unreasonable generalisation.

I for one will enjoy the reduction of non theme traffic.

Gil

Jane Sherry wrote:

> Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists,
>
>  I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods
> divorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I am
> tired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions
> or just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger
> whole.




Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Gil Robertson
I'm with you, Will.

I am quite capable of finding all the information I require, without having
it chosen for me.

I actually sit on this list in the hope of gleaning some information on
Biodynamics.

Jane could you post your material to another list, such as the "Not BD Now"
list. It would save us, collectively, hours a day deleting it, so we can read
that which we are interested in - BD and the like.

Gil

Will Winter wrote:

> > this stuff, which
> > mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-
> > mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!
>
> IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?
> HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!
> JEEZ!!!
>
> WGW




Re: to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Jane Sherry
Dear Happy Biodynamic specialists,

 I really do wish you luck in trying to promote/use/educate bd methods
divorced from spirituality and the great big world out there! Frankly, I am
tired of being the object of people's bull shit, anger, misplaced emotions
or just frustration because I have this idea that bd is part of a larger
whole. I am tired of trying to explain myself and why I feel it necessary to
sometimes forward posts from GlobalNews and other sources which touch on
spirituality, drought, politics and war from around the world.

Here in the northern hemisphere, it is winter, and usually there is a lot of
conversation on this list. I don't know what's up other than the pervasive
fear and paranoia that my government so successfully is spreading around. I
really felt that woman journalist's piece to be totally germaine to our
conversations on bdnow, because she put a human face on people, yes PEOPLE
who our government is intent on demonizing. War is complex, it is never
black and white. People who are our so called enemies, are still human, with
spirits, souls, families and complicated life situations.

Wouldn't it be nice if the US would lift the embargo so that Iraqi children
and their parents could receive much needed medicines and food, especially
now that we have spent umpty years polluting their country with plutonium
and god only knows what else? Perhaps that would inspire their leaders to
give up their weapons.

Wouldn't it be nice if the embargo against me were lifted so I didn't have
to process all your ire? Believe it or not, Will and the many others who no
doubt complain to Allan and me on this list, I actually choose very
carefully the posts I send in to bdnow. I usually (or try to) even include
the OT (off  topic) in the subject header even though, in my world, these
posts are NOT OFF TOPIC.

If you're here to only learn bd, so be it. I'm really over this stuff. For
those of you who know how to use a delete key, or have a faster connection
feel free to contact me privately, and I'll send you subscription info to be
on the free GlobalNews mailing list which can also be accessed on the web,
if you don't want all the messages coming into your mailbox.

So, stay in your special bd list, your special bd world, and keep wondering
how to get those ideas out in the world.

Sorry, Allan, but I do have other things going on in my life, and for now, I
am over and out. Call me a lurker.

Jane Sherry

> From: Will Winter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:00:34 -0600
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: to Jane Sherry
> 
>> this stuff, which
>> mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-
>> mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!
> 
> IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?
> HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!
> JEEZ!!!
> 
> WGW
> 




to Jane Sherry

2003-01-27 Thread Will Winter
> this stuff, which
> mostly comes by way of my ex-journalist-husband-who-reads-everything's-
> mailing list. If you can't tell, he reads really fast!!!

IS YOUR REFERRAL SERVICE *OPTIONAL* ON THIS SITE?
HOW MUCH WOULD I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO MAKE IT STOP!
JEEZ!!!

WGW