Re: 500 Internal Server Error
I really might help if you share a little code with the group. Just paste some into your email. Mark Bergeron -Original Message- From: Paul Burkett[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon Jun 25 12:59:08 PDT 2001 Subject: 500 Internal Server Error Everything I try I get the same error! I've tried using 'use CGI' but still nothing. I found a command that works it's called HTTP Command 204 but how do I implement this into the script? And where do I put the Content: line in? /~_. _ | _ _ _ _ \_/|(_||| | |(_)| | _| ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Some Advice plz :))
hi yall, yup, i'm an old country boy... loli'm strugling here to learn perl on my own and with help from(maybe yall)lol so plz bare with me... i need some advice on an issue here... i'm creating, well trying to create, a ranking system for my online pals... i've accomplished user signup, print info to flatfile database... send confirmation of account and a search for lost userid and pwd... now, i got to thinking... if say a user wants to update their info( change pwd, name, etc...)i'm just completely lost here... does anyone have a good explanation or some code snippets i can look at? tx again RD Sr.
SORRY... i didn't know guys :((
my god, i don't recall asking for you to write my F* code Pierre Smolarek all i asked for was advice to point me in that direction... if being a programmer is ganna make me a SMART***, i think i better quit now... sorry casey i won't post no more like this RDWest Sr.
RE: Some Advice plz :))
Wow, your response to Mr. Smolarek was a bit harsh, even though is response to you was harsh as well. Hmm Anyway, you'll have to read each line in and parse it and write it out, modifying the appropriate line. You already have the parsing done or you'd not be able to send the confirmation and search for lost passwords. You read each line, parse it, inspect it to see if it is the appropriate line to modify and modify it accordingly, then write it out to a temp file. Keep doing that until you've gone through all of the lines, then remove the original file and move the temp file into its place. hth Chris -Original Message- From: RDWest Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Some Advice plz :)) hi yall, yup, i'm an old country boy... loli'm strugling here to learn perl on my own and with help from(maybe yall)lol so plz bare with me... i need some advice on an issue here... i'm creating, well trying to create, a ranking system for my online pals... i've accomplished user signup, print info to flatfile database... send confirmation of account and a search for lost userid and pwd... now, i got to thinking... if say a user wants to update their info( change pwd, name, etc...)i'm just completely lost here... does anyone have a good explanation or some code snippets i can look at? tx again RD Sr.
Re: Crypt function
James == James Kelty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
James Can anyone point out a good book that details the functionality
James of perl and crypt()? I would like to have a cgi page that
James allows new member to sign up, hold the info in a flat file, but
James I would like to have the passwords encrypted. Any help would be
James much appreciated! Thanks alot!
The basic strategy is:
my $username = randal;
my $cleartext = guessme; # this is the password you want to protect
... adding user to password file
my $encrypted = crypt($cleartext, zz);
open PASSWORDFILE passwd or die;
print PASSWORDFILE $username:$encrypted\n
close PASSWORDFILE;
... time passes
my $username = param('username'); # randal
my $guess = param('password'); # testing to see if it's guessme
my $encryptedpassword;
open PASSWORDFILE, passwd or die;
while (PASSWORDFILE) {
chomp;
my ($u, $e) = split /:/;
next if $u ne $username;
$encryptedpassword = $e;
last;
}
die missing user unless defined $encryptedpassword;
die mismatch password
unless crypt($guess, $encryptedpassword) eq $encryptedpassword;
.. he's good!
That last line is the big one. You store the *output* of crypt
into the file. You then compare the result of running crypt *again*
to what's in the file.
As for that salt parameter, ignore it. I just use zz or something.
In this day and age with fastcrypt implementations, having a varying
salt really doesn't add much to security.
Hope this helps... it took me a few minutes to compose. :)
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Re: Re: Some Advice plz :))
Oh boy... here we go! This should fire up some creativity. This first book should be the Random House Dictionary of the English Language (-; Followed by the Llama book. Followed by a great list of resources for solving this type of problem easily. my 2 cents early, Mark Bergeron -Original Message- From: Chris Mulcahy[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Jun 27 08:21:46 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Some Advice plz :)) Wow, your response to Mr. Smolarek was a bit harsh, even though is response to you was harsh as well. Hmm Anyway, you'll have to read each line in and parse it and write it out, modifying the appropriate line. You already have the parsing done or you'd not be able to send the confirmation and search for lost passwords. You read each line, parse it, inspect it to see if it is the appropriate line to modify and modify it accordingly, then write it out to a temp file. Keep doing that until you've gone through all of the lines, then remove the original file and move the temp file into its place. hth Chris -Original Message- From: RDWest Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Some Advice plz :)) hi yall, yup, i'm an old country boy... loli'm strugling here to learn perl on my own and with help from(maybe yall)lol so plz bare with me... i need some advice on an issue here... i'm creating, well trying to create, a ranking system for my online pals... i've accomplished user signup, print info to flatfile database... send confirmation of account and a search for lost userid and pwd... now, i got to thinking... if say a user wants to update their info( change pwd, name, etc...)i'm just completely lost here... does anyone have a good explanation or some code snippets i can look at? tx again RD Sr. /~_. _ | _ _ _ _ \_/|(_||| | |(_)| | _| ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: Crypt function
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 08:49:55AM -0700, James Kelty wrote: Can anyone point out a good book that details the functionality of perl and crypt()? I would like to have a cgi page that allows new member to sign up, hold the info in a flat file, but I would like to have the passwords encrypted. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks alot! I normally use Digest::MD5 for this kind of thing. The module, like most others, is available from CPAN. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use Digest::MD5 qw(md5_hex); use strict; my $secret_password=foobarqux; my $digest=md5_hex($secret_password); This is not really encryption as it's a one-way function. You can't reverse the procedure to find the password from the digest so to authorise your users you will need to perform the digest function on the password they've supplied and compare it with the stored string. Be wary of passing passwords over http as they can be sniffed, https would be preferred. There's probably better ways of authenticating users. I would be glad to learn them from any of the real programmers on the list. :) Regards. EbGb.
RE: Help with Download
Thanks for the help ... I got a little further but still get : ... ... ... tar: CGI.pm-2.752/CGI.pm - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/README - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/cgi_docs.html - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/Makefile.PL - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/cgi-lib_porting.html - cannot create Results of gunzip tar: SUN1ls CGI.pm-2.752 CGI_pm_tar SUN1ls -l .. total 0 drwxrwxrwx 3 usract admin 96 Jun 27 14:25 CGI SUN1 -Original Message- From: fliptop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: June 27, 2001 13:01 To: Moon, John Cc: CGI Beginners Subject: Re: Help with Download Moon, John wrote: I have downloaded http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/CGI/CGI.pm.tar.gz (to pc then ftp to Unix as binary to directory when I want to install ) but am not familiar with the tar processor... When I tried : SUN2tar xvf *.tar you need to unzip it first: gunzip *.gz or, maybe (on a sun os): gzip -d *.gz then run a tar -xvf *.tar
RE: Help with Download
Thanks again for the help ... needed to change my default mask to allow tar to create dirs with correct permissions ... I was/am not use to what tar does ... now the make ... -Original Message- From: Moon, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: June 27, 2001 14:30 To: CGI Beginners Subject: RE: Help with Download Thanks for the help ... I got a little further but still get : ... ... ... tar: CGI.pm-2.752/CGI.pm - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/README - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/cgi_docs.html - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/Makefile.PL - cannot create tar: CGI.pm-2.752/cgi-lib_porting.html - cannot create Results of gunzip tar: SUN1ls CGI.pm-2.752 CGI_pm_tar SUN1ls -l .. total 0 drwxrwxrwx 3 usract admin 96 Jun 27 14:25 CGI SUN1 -Original Message- From: fliptop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: June 27, 2001 13:01 To: Moon, John Cc: CGI Beginners Subject: Re: Help with Download Moon, John wrote: I have downloaded http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/CGI/CGI.pm.tar.gz (to pc then ftp to Unix as binary to directory when I want to install ) but am not familiar with the tar processor... When I tried : SUN2tar xvf *.tar you need to unzip it first: gunzip *.gz or, maybe (on a sun os): gzip -d *.gz then run a tar -xvf *.tar
FW: IS THERE A PLATFORM FOR PERL DEVELOPERS?
I want to start developing perl applications in a windows 95 environment where and how do I about obtaining a compiler of some sort to accomplish this. Additionally how do I cater the software to my environment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]%internet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]%internet Subject: beginners-cgi Digest 26 Jun 2001 16:32:24 - Issue 28 beginners-cgi Digest 26 Jun 2001 16:32:24 - Issue 28 Topics (messages 748 through 777): Re: If I could get just one Perl Book what should it be? 748 by: Mel Matsuoka 749 by: RTaylor.thermeon.com 750 by: RTaylor.thermeon.com 751 by: Chris Hedemark Re: ? embed scalars in the sql 752 by: Francesco Scaglioni 753 by: Sage, Christian 756 by: mark crowe (JIC) 758 by: Francesco Scaglioni 759 by: PURMONEN, Joni 762 by: Francesco Scaglioni 764 by: Sage, Christian 765 by: mark crowe (JIC) 768 by: Curtis Poe 770 by: Maxim Berlin 774 by: mark crowe (JIC) 777 by: Maxim Berlin Unsubscribing 754 by: Derek Harding 755 by: Cochrane, Paul 760 by: Lucy 767 by: Mark Bergeron why perl - idc - htx - won't work in PWS 757 by: Frederick Alain Ang Yap 766 by: Kris Cook HTTP headers/Mime types 761 by: Gary Stainburn 763 by: Hasanuddin Tamir Re: Code Review 769 by: Aaron Craig 771 by: Curtis Poe 773 by: Aaron Craig Different reply-to? 772 by: Curtis Poe 776 by: Aaron Craig Mainting State On IIS 4 Without Cookies/Hidden Fields 775 by: David Simcik Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Including other files
Can you include say a header and footer .cgi file that is just a subroutine? The reason I ask, is that it seems to me that it might make things (on a larger application) easier if all you had to do was mess with the middle content of the pages. Does this make sense at all? -James
Re: Including other files
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, James Kelty wrote: Can you include say a header and footer .cgi file that is just a subroutine? The reason I ask, is that it seems to me that it might make things (on a larger application) easier if all you had to do was mess with the middle content of the pages. Does this make sense at all? Include where? Include head and footer subs in a main CGI script? You can certainly do that, if you properly create a a module and import the subroutines. If you are talking about using SSI in HTML, you can do that also, if your server supports SSI. You might want to take a look at Mason: http://masonhq.com. It's a Perl-based component framework for building web applications, and can accomplish what you want to do, and much more on top of that. -- Brett http://www.chapelperilous.net/btfwk/ Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience.
Re: Including other files
Sorry about the confusion. I did mean in the body of the main cgi and subsequent cgis later. Not SSIs. Sorry about that. -James Brett W. McCoy wrote: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, James Kelty wrote: Can you include say a header and footer .cgi file that is just a subroutine? The reason I ask, is that it seems to me that it might make things (on a larger application) easier if all you had to do was mess with the middle content of the pages. Does this make sense at all? Include where? Include head and footer subs in a main CGI script? You can certainly do that, if you properly create a a module and import the subroutines. If you are talking about using SSI in HTML, you can do that also, if your server supports SSI. You might want to take a look at Mason: http://masonhq.com. It's a Perl-based component framework for building web applications, and can accomplish what you want to do, and much more on top of that. -- Brett http://www.chapelperilous.net/btfwk/ Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience.
Re: Including other files
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, James Kelty wrote: Sorry about the confusion. I did mean in the body of the main cgi and subsequent cgis later. Not SSIs. Sorry about that. Well, yes, you can do that. In fact, from a design standpoint, it's definitely a good idea to take out the common elements of your webpages and include them in the parts that change. Again, take a look at Mason. -- Brett http://www.chapelperilous.net/btfwk/ Huh?
Problem with my code
I can't get any response from the location I am trying to contact. I can reach an external location like www.yahoo.com without any problem. When I use my web browser I have no problem receiving a response from the CGI even if I give bad information to the POST. I know I am not using a proxy. Please pardon my email program for the wordwrap... use LWP::UserAgent; $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new; my $req = HTTP::Request-new(POST = 'http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/homology_report.cgi'); $req-content_type(application/x-www-form-urlencoded); $john = qw(order=symbolinclude=*limit=0_Species_key=op:symname=begins); $john .= qw(symname=abl1); $jonh.=qw(symnameBreadth=CWScmp_Species_key=); my $res = $ua-request($req); print $res-code,'\n'; Thank you, Greg Touchton\\ /=| 540-552-5967 \\ // =| 338 Shenandoah Cir \// =|
Re: Problem with my code
First you should always use strict. It'll help catch things like your misspeling of jonh. The request you are sending is for a POST, which means that the form data has to be passed in the body of the request, which you forgot to do. So just add: $req-content($john); Correct the spelling mistake, use strict, my all your variables, and it should work fine.. except that your query isn't understood by their cgi. I used this query for testing: my $john = qq|order=symbolinclude=selected*limit=500_Species_key=1op%3Asymname=beginssymname=symnameBreadth=CWSop%3Achromosome=%3Dchromosome=op%3AcytogeneticOffset=beginscytogeneticOffset=op%3A_primary=begins_primary=refid=id=cmp_Species_key=op%3Acmp_chromosome=%3Dcmp_chromosome=op%3Acmp_cytogeneticOffset=beginscmp_cytogeneticOffset=|; p.s. interesting project :) -- my edited version: use strict; use LWP::UserAgent; my $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new; my $req = HTTP::Request-new(POST = 'http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/homology_report.cgi'); $req-content_type(application/x-www-form-urlencoded); my $john = qq|order=symbolinclude=selected*limit=500_Species_key=1op%3Asymname=beginssymname=symnameBreadth=CWSop%3Achromosome=%3Dchromosome=op%3AcytogeneticOffset=beginscytogeneticOffset=op%3A_primary=begins_primary=refid=id=cmp_Species_key=op%3Acmp_chromosome=%3Dcmp_chromosome=op%3Acmp_cytogeneticOffset=beginscmp_cytogeneticOffset=|; $req-content($john); # print $req-as_string(); my $res = $ua-request($req); print $res-code,'\n'; print $res-content(); Greg Touchton wrote: I can't get any response from the location I am trying to contact. I can reach an external location like www.yahoo.com without any problem. When I use my web browser I have no problem receiving a response from the CGI even if I give bad information to the POST. I know I am not using a proxy. Please pardon my email program for the wordwrap... use LWP::UserAgent; $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new; my $req = HTTP::Request-new(POST = 'http://www.informatics.jax.org/searches/homology_report.cgi'); $req-content_type(application/x-www-form-urlencoded); $john = qw(order=symbolinclude=*limit=0_Species_key=op:symname=begins); $john .= qw(symname=abl1); $jonh.=qw(symnameBreadth=CWScmp_Species_key=); my $res = $ua-request($req); print $res-code,'\n'; Thank you, Greg Touchton\\ /=| 540-552-5967 \\ // =| 338 Shenandoah Cir \// =| -- Perl, because 600 billion oysters can't be wrong Canadian Consulting Services' pet perl hacker David Labatte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
correction
sorry, the next installment will be Step 7, not 8.
Re: Including other files
Hi, I have a similar situation in my project. I have created a file like mylib.pl and I put all my subroutines into it. In every page which I use i just add a line require mylib.pl IT works fine for me. I would like to know 1. if this approch is Good 2. Is their any performance problem compared to writing the subs directly in main. 3. Is there any better approch. with regards Rajeev Rumale ~~~ Rajeev Rumale MyAngel.Net Pte Ltd.,Phone : (65)8831530 (office) #04-01, 180 B, The Bencoolen, Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bencoolen Street, Singapore - 189648 ICQ: 121001541 Website : www.myangel.net ~~~ - Original Message - From: Mark Bergeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Kelty [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Including other files Yes you can. -Original Message- From: James Kelty[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Jun 27 15:18:23 PDT 2001 Subject: Including other files Can you include say a header and footer .cgi file that is just a subroutine? The reason I ask, is that it seems to me that it might make things (on a larger application) easier if all you had to do was mess with the middle content of the pages. Does this make sense at all? -James /~_. _ | _ _ _ _ \_/|(_||| | |(_)| | _| ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: Crypt function
Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my $encrypted = crypt($cleartext, zz); . As for that salt parameter, ignore it. I just use zz or something. In this day and age with fastcrypt implementations, having a varying salt really doesn't add much to security. Having a better salt (the two characters zz) helps prevent casual or accidental browsing (say, by the sysadmin) from revealing that two users have the same password. While this only adds minimal security, it's worth the minimal effort to avoid that problem. You can use the first (or last) two characters of the username for a simple salt: my $encrypted = crypt($cleartext, substr($username, -2, 2)); The brief documentation for crypt is available (among other places) at: http://www.perl.com/pub/doc/manual/html/pod/perlfunc/crypt.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] adds: I normally use Digest::MD5 for this kind of thing. The module, like most others, is available from CPAN. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use Digest::MD5 qw(md5_hex); use strict; my $secret_password=foobarqux; my $digest=md5_hex($secret_password); This is not really encryption as it's a one-way function. You can't reverse the procedure to find the password from the digest so to authorise your users you will need to perform the digest function on the password they've supplied and compare it with the stored string. I'll second this recommendation. To avoid the same password issue described above, it's slightly better to append the username when computing the hash, as in: my $digest = md5_hex($secret_password . $username); You may want to require a minimum password length or check for obvious passwords. Also, consider using SSL for the CGI script to prevent the password from being sniffed during transmission to your server. Consult with a security expert if you need more than basic security on your site. + Richard J. Barbalace
Re: reg cgi pgm running
i think this is exclusively for cgi programming.. that too for beginners.. as a beginner i have to configure iplannet in my system then only i can run my cgi program . right???.. then what is wrong in asking abt it??? if it is still out of question.. i am sorry for posted this question. Thanx Regards nila --- Hal Wigoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'This is not the list for iplanet help. At 05:17 AM 6/27/01 -0700, you wrote: hi i am configuring iplannet webserver to run cgi scripts. i dont know how to run my program.. can anyone tell me how to run my hello world program? It wudbe really helpful to me if some one can show me the pointer. Thank you Regards nila __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Different reply-to?
I thought that the moderators had asked for these threads to be ceased. The number of emails on this topic, along with the ones on unsubscribing is getting unbelievable - I know, I've just $cout++'d this. I am on more lists than is good for me, and while some do add a prefix to the subject other don't. It doesn not make any differece to me. *NONE* of them have 'reply-to-list' set. This also does not cause me a problem. Almost every mail client has filtering built in - even MS ones. Use the 'To or CC' filter as every mail you receive from this list will have 'beginners@' or 'beginners-cgi@' in one of these fields. The fact that I receive duplicate replies to my posts is also not annoying - it makes it more likely that I see it. Please please PLEASE can we now stop these threads and let the list get on with what it's supposed to do which is help perl beginners get on with productive stuff. Gary On Wednesday 27 June 2001 1:11 pm, Kris Cook wrote: I'm compelled to add my voice to Al's on this. The other lists I've been member of have all had the group as the Reply-to address, not the individual sender. The monitors need to think this through. People will become annoyed with the duplicates, and ask to be removed from the list. The community will lose good interactive communication, and be deprived of a wealth of potential resources. Who's served by that? -Original Message- From: Al Hospers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Different reply-to? although I *have* gotten into the habit of using reply-all instead of reply-to, thus getting my mail out to its intended recipient, I receive multiple copies of the same post from other people who use reply-all and don't take out everybody's name from the To: field. I have received as many as three copies of every message in a thread at times. No wonder I download 200+ messages a day from these two lists alone. If the list must be set to not mess with the reply-to field, could list members at least make sure that they cut out addresses from the To: field before sending their mail? uncloaking I think that this topic was chopped off in mid-stream on beginners. in fact I unsubscribed because when I was active I was getting many doubled posts a day from that list, on top of the normal traffic. very annoying! I don't care what emailer you are using, there is no EASY way to filter out the double postings it is entirely too easy to do. IMHO both lists are set up backwards from the myriad other lists I belong to. most lists have the Reply field to be the reply to the list, Reply All has the list AND the poster's address. thus you hit Reply post back to the list ONLY - which is what most people want to do and what most posters want you to do. if you really WANT to reply to the poster directly, something that is often not desired, you click Reply All dump the list address. the way the list is configured now, if you click reply you will NOT reply to the list at all. thi=us depriving the list members of seeing the dialog. if you click Reply All, unless you make the effort to delete the poster's address, they are going to get double postings. I do not understand the reluctance of the monitors to make this change. sigh Al Hospers CamberSoft, Inc. alatcambersoftdotcom http://www.cambersoft.com A famous linguist once said: There is no language wherein a double positive can form a negative. YEAH, RIGHT -- Gary Stainburn This email does not contain private or confidential material as it may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000
Re: Different reply-to?
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 01:18:37PM +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote: : I thought that the moderators had asked for these threads to be ceased. Yes, we have. This will be the last and final message on the subject. :) : The number of emails on this topic, along with the ones on unsubscribing is : getting unbelievable - I know, I've just $cout++'d this. : : I am on more lists than is good for me, and while some do add a prefix to the : subject other don't. It doesn not make any differece to me. *NONE* of them : have 'reply-to-list' set. This also does not cause me a problem. As I have voiced in the beginners-workers group, we all have to remember that the beginners lists are set up exactly the same way as the 100+ other Perl lists on perl.org. We will not be helping anybody, especially the beginners that want to explore further, by changing the way these lists work. The beginners-workers folks have decided that the best solution is education. We are going to be documenting how to filter @perl.org mailing lists for as many MUAs as we can get our hands on. Please, if you feel like doing this, send your documentation to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Please please PLEASE can we now stop these threads and let the list get on : with what it's supposed to do which is help perl beginners get on with : productive stuff. Amen. It is finished. :) Casey West -- Shooting yourself in the foot with Pascal Same as Modula-2 except that the bullet is not the right type for the gun and your hand is blown off.
