[biz] Rack Shelf - For sale?
Hi, Where can I find some cheap rack shelves for sale? Looking for standard 19 wide and anywhere from 12 to 28 - vented or not Local source preferred. Probably someone who carries used racks... Thanks,
[biz] Who sells Fibre cable in town?
Hello everyone, Where can I find some fibre cable in town? Any specific stores? I would need 500 or 1000 feet boxes and not patch cables. Thanks, Bruce
Re: [biz] Seeking Canadian Konftel Reseller
I would be interested as well. Best, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Dave Donovan donovan.da...@gmail.comwrote: Hi folks, If there are any Konftel resellers (or distributors I guess) on the list, please contact me, I'd like to order a couple of IP conference phones. Thanks, Dave
[biz] Which providers can pass CNAM for Canada?
Hi everyone, All major US wholesale providers can't provide CNAM facility for Canadian markets. They are under the impression that there is a name dipping system here as well. I am wondering if you know any provider in Canada that can send CNAM except for Unlimitel. Please message me private as well since some of the posts might not make it to the list. Thanks,
Re: [biz] Which providers can pass CNAM for Canada?
Thanks for the input everyone. I think my question should have been, Do you know of any major US wholesalers that can pass CNAM to Canada. Sounds that there are none probably. Though most of them claim to be directly connected with Bell Canada etc... Best, On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Bill Sandiford b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote: Bruce, The Canadian method for CNAM is very different than the US method. In the US there is a central database that all providers update with the CNAM data for their subscribers. When a call is placed, the called party's carrier does a dip of the database to look up the CNAM info so they can provide it to the called party. In Canada there is no central database. CNAM info is passed in realtime as part of the initial setup messages on a call. That info is then passed from carrier to carrier until it gets to the called party's carrier who provides the info to the called party. The end result of this is that calls from a US number to another US number will have reliable CNAM. Calls from a Canadian number to another Canadian number will have reliable CNAM. Calls from a US number to a Canadian number (and vice versa) will be hit and miss as far as CNAM goes due to the differences in the system. Bill On 12-02-25 1:15 PM, Bruce N brucev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, All major US wholesale providers can't provide CNAM facility for Canadian markets. They are under the impression that there is a name dipping system here as well. I am wondering if you know any provider in Canada that can send CNAM except for Unlimitel. Please message me private as well since some of the posts might not make it to the list. Thanks,
[biz] Which merchants do ACH payments?
Hi everyone, Any merchant account providers you know that does ACH Check payments and is not tough on rules of registration? Thanks,Bruce
[biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested?
Hi Everyone, I have so far received 12 commitments out of 26 *potential*/previously enlisted interested parties. If you are one of the people who has not yet committed please let me know by today as I am looking to finalize this asap. Course: 2 Days FreeSwitch Training Date: August 5th 6th (Friday/Saturday) Time: 8:30 A.M - 4:00 P.M. Location: Toronto Regards, Bruce From: het...@hotmail.com To: cgwi...@gmail.com CC: biz@taug.ca; aster...@uc.org Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:51:46 -0400 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? I have been adding names to a list as they are sent to me. I will send an e-mail with help of others as to how everyone should register. That is once I get confirmation from FreeSwitch team. Regards,Bruce Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:53:12 -0400 From: cgwi...@gmail.com To: het...@hotmail.com CC: b...@telnetcommunications.com; biz@taug.ca; aster...@uc.org Subject: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? How do we confirm our placement for the training? Is there a site that needs to be visited? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Bruce N het...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks Bill. Good point. I posed the question and awaiting answer. So far, I have 18 or 19 people confirmed. -Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: het...@hotmail.com CC: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com; biz@taug.ca; aster...@uc.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:21:54 -0400 Subject: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? Bruce, Have you asked Darren what his max class size is? We attended one of his courses in San Francisco last year and the max was 10. That may have been a classroom size limitation however my opinion was that any larger than 10 would have made the teacher to student ratio undesirable. Most technical training that I've ever been to has a limit if 10. You should check with Darren if you haven't already done so. FWIW, his training is excellent and I highly recommend it. Bill Sent from iPad On 2011-06-13, at 1:58 AM, Bruce N het...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am excited to see all the support. If we can just double the amount of people already committed Seems like there is a lot of interest for a summer VoIP party :) I am wondering if anyone has any connections to Montreal, Vancouver, Nova Scotia, Winnipeg asterisk user groups? or even any other general VoIP user groups. Committed so far: 2x Mike A. Luke D. Syed Z. Ryan M. Reza R. Jim M. Tim S. Bruce N. Have we got any more names that I might have missed? Please add your name to the list. -Bruce Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:50:08 -0400 From: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? Bruce, I'd also be very interested. I can provide some equipment, say a small 1U supermicro server if needed ( fits in backpack ). We're developing a custom freeswitch platform but definitely in attending and bringing one of my programmers. Mike On 06/10/2011 6:28 PM, Bruce N wrote: Hi Everyone, I know there has been a tutorial or two on FreeSwitch at TAUG meeting but there hasn't been any official trainings in Toronto or maybe all of Canada from the FreeSwitch team. I am very interested to explore FreeSwitch at a deeper level and I contacted Darren Schreiber (co-author of the FreeSwitch Book) and it seems they are interested to offer us their knowledge. I am writing here to see how many of the members or non-members would like to attend a whole day event or maybe even a 3 day event. I am also posting here to see if we can have any volunteers to organize this. The session will include hands-on installation and running of the system so we require space, computer(s), and organizers. I can dedicate some time and equipment to it and have already talked to a few other members who are interested in this as well. But before going forward we want to know if you will be interested and would it be a 1-day course or a full training of 3-days course? Below is an example of what is covered in a 3-day course: http://freeswitchtraining.eventbrite.com/ A 1-day course might cost peanuts given the trainer offered free training for the 1-day course. Plane tickets, hotel, etc...might bring costs to ~$250 for 20 people which is a sweet deal for getting under the hood with a help of a pro. 3
[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested?
I have been adding names to a list as they are sent to me. I will send an e-mail with help of others as to how everyone should register. That is once I get confirmation from FreeSwitch team. Regards,Bruce Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:53:12 -0400 From: cgwi...@gmail.com To: het...@hotmail.com CC: b...@telnetcommunications.com; biz@taug.ca; aster...@uc.org Subject: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? How do we confirm our placement for the training? Is there a site that needs to be visited? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Bruce N het...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks Bill. Good point. I posed the question and awaiting answer. So far, I have 18 or 19 people confirmed. -Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: het...@hotmail.com CC: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com; biz@taug.ca; aster...@uc.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:21:54 -0400 Subject: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? Bruce, Have you asked Darren what his max class size is? We attended one of his courses in San Francisco last year and the max was 10. That may have been a classroom size limitation however my opinion was that any larger than 10 would have made the teacher to student ratio undesirable. Most technical training that I've ever been to has a limit if 10. You should check with Darren if you haven't already done so. FWIW, his training is excellent and I highly recommend it. Bill Sent from iPad On 2011-06-13, at 1:58 AM, Bruce N het...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am excited to see all the support. If we can just double the amount of people already committed Seems like there is a lot of interest for a summer VoIP party :) I am wondering if anyone has any connections to Montreal, Vancouver, Nova Scotia, Winnipeg asterisk user groups? or even any other general VoIP user groups. Committed so far: 2x Mike A. Luke D. Syed Z. Ryan M. Reza R. Jim M. Tim S. Bruce N. Have we got any more names that I might have missed? Please add your name to the list. -Bruce Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:50:08 -0400 From: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? Bruce, I'd also be very interested. I can provide some equipment, say a small 1U supermicro server if needed ( fits in backpack ). We're developing a custom freeswitch platform but definitely in attending and bringing one of my programmers. Mike On 06/10/2011 6:28 PM, Bruce N wrote: Hi Everyone, I know there has been a tutorial or two on FreeSwitch at TAUG meeting but there hasn't been any official trainings in Toronto or maybe all of Canada from the FreeSwitch team. I am very interested to explore FreeSwitch at a deeper level and I contacted Darren Schreiber (co-author of the FreeSwitch Book) and it seems they are interested to offer us their knowledge. I am writing here to see how many of the members or non-members would like to attend a whole day event or maybe even a 3 day event. I am also posting here to see if we can have any volunteers to organize this. The session will include hands-on installation and running of the system so we require space, computer(s), and organizers. I can dedicate some time and equipment to it and have already talked to a few other members who are interested in this as well. But before going forward we want to know if you will be interested and would it be a 1-day course or a full training of 3-days course? Below is an example of what is covered in a 3-day course: http://freeswitchtraining.eventbrite.com/ A 1-day course might cost peanuts given the trainer offered free training for the 1-day course. Plane tickets, hotel, etc...might bring costs to ~$250 for 20 people which is a sweet deal for getting under the hood with a help of a pro. 3-days course is also offered but I am not sure how much that will cost us. Please let me know your thoughts and if you would be interested to join such a session within the context of TAUG summer meeting. All proceeds are to be used for organizing the event and the plane ticket/hotel for the trainer. - Bruce -- Mike Ashton CTO Quality Track International Work:+1 647 724 3500 x251 Cell:+1 416 527 4995 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI
[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested?
Thanks Bill. Good point. I posed the question and awaiting answer. So far, I have 18 or 19 people confirmed. -Bruce From: b...@telnetcommunications.com To: het...@hotmail.com CC: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com; biz@taug.ca; aster...@uc.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:21:54 -0400 Subject: [on-asterisk] Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? Bruce, Have you asked Darren what his max class size is? We attended one of his courses in San Francisco last year and the max was 10. That may have been a classroom size limitation however my opinion was that any larger than 10 would have made the teacher to student ratio undesirable. Most technical training that I've ever been to has a limit if 10. You should check with Darren if you haven't already done so. FWIW, his training is excellent and I highly recommend it. Bill Sent from iPad On 2011-06-13, at 1:58 AM, Bruce N het...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am excited to see all the support. If we can just double the amount of people already committed Seems like there is a lot of interest for a summer VoIP party :) I am wondering if anyone has any connections to Montreal, Vancouver, Nova Scotia, Winnipeg asterisk user groups? or even any other general VoIP user groups. Committed so far: 2x Mike A. Luke D. Syed Z. Ryan M. Reza R. Jim M. Tim S. Bruce N. Have we got any more names that I might have missed? Please add your name to the list. -Bruce Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:50:08 -0400 From: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? Bruce, I'd also be very interested. I can provide some equipment, say a small 1U supermicro server if needed ( fits in backpack ). We're developing a custom freeswitch platform but definitely in attending and bringing one of my programmers. Mike On 06/10/2011 6:28 PM, Bruce N wrote: Hi Everyone, I know there has been a tutorial or two on FreeSwitch at TAUG meeting but there hasn't been any official trainings in Toronto or maybe all of Canada from the FreeSwitch team. I am very interested to explore FreeSwitch at a deeper level and I contacted Darren Schreiber (co-author of the FreeSwitch Book) and it seems they are interested to offer us their knowledge. I am writing here to see how many of the members or non-members would like to attend a whole day event or maybe even a 3 day event. I am also posting here to see if we can have any volunteers to organize this. The session will include hands-on installation and running of the system so we require space, computer(s), and organizers. I can dedicate some time and equipment to it and have already talked to a few other members who are interested in this as well. But before going forward we want to know if you will be interested and would it be a 1-day course or a full training of 3-days course? Below is an example of what is covered in a 3-day course: http://freeswitchtraining.eventbrite.com/ A 1-day course might cost peanuts given the trainer offered free training for the 1-day course. Plane tickets, hotel, etc...might bring costs to ~$250 for 20 people which is a sweet deal for getting under the hood with a help of a pro. 3-days course is also offered but I am not sure how much that will cost us. Please let me know your thoughts and if you would be interested to join such a session within the context of TAUG summer meeting. All proceeds are to be used for organizing the event and the plane ticket/hotel for the trainer. - Bruce -- Mike Ashton CTO Quality Track International Work:+1 647 724 3500 x251 Cell:+1 416 527 4995 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested?
Hi everyone, I am excited to see all the support. If we can just double the amount of people already committed Seems like there is a lot of interest for a summer VoIP party :) I am wondering if anyone has any connections to Montreal, Vancouver, Nova Scotia, Winnipeg asterisk user groups? or even any other general VoIP user groups. Committed so far: 2x Mike A. Luke D. Syed Z. Ryan M. Reza R. Jim M. Tim S. Bruce N. Have we got any more names that I might have missed? Please add your name to the list. -Bruce Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:50:08 -0400 From: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested? Bruce, I'd also be very interested. I can provide some equipment, say a small 1U supermicro server if needed ( fits in backpack ). We're developing a custom freeswitch platform but definitely in attending and bringing one of my programmers. Mike On 06/10/2011 6:28 PM, Bruce N wrote: Hi Everyone, I know there has been a tutorial or two on FreeSwitch at TAUG meeting but there hasn't been any official trainings in Toronto or maybe all of Canada from the FreeSwitch team. I am very interested to explore FreeSwitch at a deeper level and I contacted Darren Schreiber (co-author of the FreeSwitch Book) and it seems they are interested to offer us their knowledge. I am writing here to see how many of the members or non-members would like to attend a whole day event or maybe even a 3 day event. I am also posting here to see if we can have any volunteers to organize this. The session will include hands-on installation and running of the system so we require space, computer(s), and organizers. I can dedicate some time and equipment to it and have already talked to a few other members who are interested in this as well. But before going forward we want to know if you will be interested and would it be a 1-day course or a full training of 3-days course? Below is an example of what is covered in a 3-day course: http://freeswitchtraining.eventbrite.com/ A 1-day course might cost peanuts given the trainer offered free training for the 1-day course. Plane tickets, hotel, etc...might bring costs to ~$250 for 20 people which is a sweet deal for getting under the hood with a help of a pro. 3-days course is also offered but I am not sure how much that will cost us. Please let me know your thoughts and if you would be interested to join such a session within the context of TAUG summer meeting. All proceeds are to be used for organizing the event and the plane ticket/hotel for the trainer. - Bruce -- Mike Ashton CTO Quality Track International Work: +1 647 724 3500 x251 Cell: +1 416 527 4995 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca
[biz] FreeSwitch Training Session - Are you interested?
Hi Everyone, I know there has been a tutorial or two on FreeSwitch at TAUG meeting but there hasn't been any official trainings in Toronto or maybe all of Canada from the FreeSwitch team. I am very interested to explore FreeSwitch at a deeper level and I contacted Darren Schreiber (co-author of the FreeSwitch Book) and it seems they are interested to offer us their knowledge. I am writing here to see how many of the members or non-members would like to attend a whole day event or maybe even a 3 day event. I am also posting here to see if we can have any volunteers to organize this. The session will include hands-on installation and running of the system so we require space, computer(s), and organizers. I can dedicate some time and equipment to it and have already talked to a few other members who are interested in this as well. But before going forward we want to know if you will be interested and would it be a 1-day course or a full training of 3-days course? Below is an example of what is covered in a 3-day course: http://freeswitchtraining.eventbrite.com/ A 1-day course might cost peanuts given the trainer offered free training for the 1-day course. Plane tickets, hotel, etc...might bring costs to ~$250 for 20 people which is a sweet deal for getting under the hood with a help of a pro. 3-days course is also offered but I am not sure how much that will cost us. Please let me know your thoughts and if you would be interested to join such a session within the context of TAUG summer meeting. All proceeds are to be used for organizing the event and the plane ticket/hotel for the trainer. - Bruce
[biz] Lawyer familiar with networking/telephony contracts
Hi guys,I am looking for lawyers who can do basic tasks for contract writing, validating, etcand are familiar with network/telephony situation (sorta) and don't charge $1 Million for a paper. If you have any recommendations for EAST of GTA (all the way to Oshawa) would be great or even GTA. This is probably not ongoing continuous work hire a lawyer for a big project but rather something here and there which does require a lawyer's attention.Please let me know off-list.Thanks,Bruce
[biz] RE: Bulk SMS provider?
***Moving to Biz list where it belongs. Sorry. Clickatell.com do not allow setting of Sender ID on the go. You can send a message from the mobile number you registered with, without having to register a Sender ID. If you wish to send messages from other numbers or names you will be required to register them. Approval of your submitted Sender ID is not guaranteed and generally only numbers, company and product names that we are able to verify will be approved. Any MO numbers linked to your account do not need to be registered. I need setting Sender ID on the go. I may not mind having to register if that is done easily and in bulk as well and quickly rather an lengthy approval process. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Bruce From: aster...@fortgroup.ca To: het...@hotmail.com; aster...@uc.org Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:46:48 + Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Bulk SMS provider? Clickatell.com I've have been using them for 5+ years now ... at times even cheaper than my CDN cell provider. And yes, they allow SenderID be set -Original Message- From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: April-14-11 7:43 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Bulk SMS provider? Hi Everyone, Does anyone have any recommendations for an international SMS provider which allows Sender ID setting? Regards, Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
[biz] Various Call Center Application costs VS an Asterisk solution
Good afternoon everyone, I want to do an ROI for an Asterisk call center solution VS an Avaya, Nortel, or the comparison. Looking anywhere from 20 seats to 150 seats to 300 seats in separate comparisons. I would appreciate the info regarding the capital cost on hardware and more importantly monthly or yearly ongoing license fees. I would also like to know how the non-Asterisk solutions would be expandable with more seats or also expandable geographically. Any info in the prices would be a definite help. Thanks,Bruce
[biz] Voice over and IVR recording recommandation
Hi Guys, I have a client who is looking for a YOUNG voice. Younger person. Someone who can do both English/French around the same prices as the Digium offers. Do you know any studios? Thanks, Bruce
[biz] SuperMicro dealer in town? Need an ASAP quote and shipping time
Hi Everyone, Do you know anyone who is a distributer or reseller of SuperMicro servers in GTA area? Heck, we dont' even care if they are out of province but can get us a server quickly and give us a time frame on it. Need one of the following: SuperMicro SYS-6026TT-HTRF OR SuperMciro SYS-6026TT-BTRF Any leads are appreciated. Thanks, Bruce
RE: [biz] SuperMicro dealer in town? Need an ASAP quote and shipping time
Thanks for all the replies guys. I have already contact a few of these resellers and their prices are a bit off what I can get from a reseller in Vancovar. Not being local, they aer not my favourite though. Anyhow, SuperMicro was recommanding IngramMicro but they have a long process to membership. Anyone of this list has access to IngramMicro to price out both of these as barebones: SuperMicro 6026TT-HTRF AND SuperMicro 6026TT-BTRF Thanks, Bruce From: cmario...@xunity.com To: het...@hotmail.com; biz@taug.ca Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:22:34 -0400 Subject: RE: [biz] SuperMicro dealer in town? Need an ASAP quote and shipping time Bruce, I am a reseller of SuperMicro, however, I couldn't find a decent distributor in Ontario that had regular stock on their items (for quick orders and quick repairs). They recommended that I order through www.NCIX.ca and they would reduce the price to reseller pricing. I have never ordered any SuperMicro from them (other items in the past have been fine). Regards, Chuck -Original Message- From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: September-27-10 2:55 PM To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] SuperMicro dealer in town? Need an ASAP quote and shipping time Hi Everyone, Do you know anyone who is a distributer or reseller of SuperMicro servers in GTA area? Heck, we dont' even care if they are out of province but can get us a server quickly and give us a time frame on it. Need one of the following: SuperMicro SYS-6026TT-HTRF OR SuperMciro SYS-6026TT-BTRF Any leads are appreciated. Thanks, Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca
[biz] Linksys / Cisco WRP400 quality talk
Hi Everyone, Is Cisco WRP400 (2 FXS, Wireless a/b/g, USB modem support) of same quality or equivalent to that of PAPx series? The Linksys PAP2 (spa2102) are reliable little boxes but WRP400 is something rather new to me even though it seems like it's a re-make of WRTp54G. I appreciate your input If you have experience with this unit in production. To be deployed to connect to remote server but will be the front router itself. This is not to be used to connect to local SIP server. Regards,Bruce
RE: [biz] Redfone related questions
Thanks for the input guys. Dave, - So, the Positron product uses a differnet technology than TDMoE? - But they sell only a single T1 port and no expandable option??!! - The price is double that of Fonebridge??!!! - Doesn't come in rack format. Can't place it in Co-lo? I would still be very intrested to know how this product works. And I do feel safe that they mention they will give free support on thier site unlike the very poor support statement that RedFone has. thanks, Bruce Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:11:29 -0400 From: donovan.da...@gmail.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] Redfone related questions On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Bruce N het...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, For those who have experience with Redfone products, can you please weigh in on these questions. I need to know the in and out of these products for a better decision to be made: Bruce, I don't have experience with Redfone but check the archives because I asked a related question several months ago and got some interesting answers. We run Asterisk in VMware so this type of solution was very attractive. Relevant to your inquiry was a comment made by one poster that TDMOE was facing deprecation in Asterisk. I decided to look into the Positron product and I just got it in yesterday, as it happens. We'll be deploying that within the next few weeks and I'll be happy to update the list on how that goes. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca
[biz] Redfone related questions
Hi Everyone, For those who have experience with Redfone products, can you please weigh in on these questions. I need to know the in and out of these products for a better decision to be made: 1- How does the 2 x Quad-port fonebridge in 1U rack mount work when one wants to connect each PRI to separate box? Is there a UI portal for the fone bridge that allows the setup? 2- What if one wants to send all the ports to a single server? Does the server have to have 8 NIC ports for this? 3- Is there any specific NIC type requirements for this product? 4- How good of a product is? It's amazing that it's expandable and independent. So, it can be used as a redundancy measure but is it as good as a Sangoma PRI card? 5- If a single Quad-port is added, is adding a second Quad-port like a hot swap install? or does it require full configuration? 6- Do you prefer to have the on-board echo cancel version? 7- I see that their Support is not impressive. At least not from their statment on the site to allow 5 WHOLE DAYS for response time. Have you had small and big problems that you thought could have been taken care of in few minutes and waited few days for it? 8- What is the difference between the fonebridge version 2 and older verison? 9- Are there any local Canadian distributer of the Redfone products? Non listed on their site. 10-*** Is there another quality product that you have came by that does the same job or better? Thanks,Bruce
[biz] Leasing options
Hi Guys, What are the leasing options for telephony/server equipments? rates? local GTA companies that offer it? Thanks,Bruce
[biz] URGENT - Consultants / Techs familiar with Elastix who can help immediately
Hi Everyone, Having issue with Dahdi on an Elastix server. If you can extend a paid service help at this time please send me a quick e-mail or call : +1-416-479-0840. Thanks,Bruce
[biz] FW: [on-asterisk] RE: [biz] Unlimitel
I absolutely understand your reasoning. And it's also more business for you if the customer goes over $0. It's like asking Bell Canada to not provide long distance service by default. It would be depriving them of their good chunk of revenue source and it's un-fair. But maybe an option to TRUE pre-paid vs pre-paid/post-paid should be given to all customers at sign-up or portal level. I also understand that from a billing point of view this is a lot of work but it may clear the air for your customers who expect to receive some leniency if a bill is not paid within few hours on a pre-paid/post-paid account model. Regards, Bruce From: monet...@unlimitel.ca Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:48:59 -0400 CC: henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca; aster...@uc.org To: het...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] RE: [biz] Unlimitel Bruce, Can you imagine how much hate mail we would receive if the system would suspend the service as soon as it hits $0.00 or less? Stephan. On 2010-08-04, at 11:40 AM, Bruce N wrote: I agree with Reza on this listing being the absolute right venue for recommendations and *concerns*. This post is not being made to the Asterisk User list but rather to the Biz list. I don't see why something like this should be censored. I understand Unlimitel's reasoning for payment on-time but I would not agree with them that accounts are *pre-paid*. A true pre-paid account would stop at $0 and customer is requested for more money. If a hacker is allowed to rack up $200 bill or so at the expense of the customer then a customer with a good payment record should be given a $50 chance as well. Or maybe not :-) Though, I commend Unlimitel for having a system in place to catch abnormal activity on the *post-paid* accounts. -Bruce
RE: [biz] Unlimitel
Stephan, Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread. I want clarification on this paragraph: Unlimitel sells a prepaid service and it works exactly like a prepaid calling card service. If the prepaid account is empty, the service is suspended. Most VoIP provider runs their prepaid service this way. There's no credit allowed for any customers using this business model. I was told that with DIDs from Unlimitel, in case of an attack or compromised system, unlimitel does not have a procedure to stop the traffic even if it goes past the $50 credit that is deposited as pre-paid. With true pre-paid once the balance reaches $0 the system should stop calls. Is that what Unlimitel does or is there a chance that a customer might rack up a $1000 bill if their PBX is compromised or hacked because it sent calls way past the pre-paid $50 credit. Or maybe I am not intrepreting your paragraph the right way Stephan. But can you please shed some light? You really put some good details of cost of running business out there :-) I agree wtih you. P.S. My confusions with billings were promptly taken care of through e-mail by Unlimitel always. I never use phone support for things like this though. Thanks, Bruce From: monet...@unlimitel.ca Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:10:10 -0400 CC: biz@taug.ca To: a...@kovasys.com Subject: Re: [biz] Unlimitel Alex, Unlimitel sells a prepaid service and it works exactly like a prepaid calling card service. If the prepaid account is empty, the service is suspended. Most VoIP provider runs their prepaid service this way. There's no credit allowed for any customers using this business model. But Unlimitel does allow 24 hours for customers to fix issues with credit card payments (which you already got since you receive the notice yesterday). Prepaid calling card companies do not allow this 24hours grace. We provide this 24 hours grace at our own expense and risk. Everyone knows a customer can run an hefty bill in 24 hours using VoIP, but we do this for our customers. In cases where customers lost their credit card, our billing rep. always suggest to go and purchase a prepaid credit card from your local corner store in order to fix your payment issue in the short term. The prepaid credit card is very useful in situations like yours and will avoid service suspension. Our billing department also offer to accept payment from another person's credit card and this was also communicated to you. But if you choose not to purchase a prepaid credit card or use someone else's credit card to fix this issue, this is your call and you will have to deal with the consequences. This is just unfortunate that you use this forum to complain about your credit card issue where Unlimitel offered you temporary solutions in the short term to avoid any problems. I'm sure you run your business the exact same way. You do not ship any products to any customers (regardless of their purchase volume) if the payment is rejected on the credit card, do you? I purchase products from your company any other businesses on this forum and you shipped it after the payment on my credit card was confirmed and this is what I expected, nothing less. Let's educate everyone on this forum. Here's why VoIP providers are using the PrePaid business model (not just Unlimitel, but almost every VoIP provider in Canada): 1- Between 6% to 10% of accounts do not get paid when you offer post paid services or credit to business customers. So for a $5Millions company (not Unlimitel case by the way!) this represents up to $500,000 in lost net revenues per year. 2- PrePaid services do not require full time staff to handle payments. Again for a $5Millions company, this would require about 5 full time staff at an average of $40k/employee for a total of $200k/year plus real estate space, computers,... 3- PrePaid services are usually fully automated. But for a post paid service, the payment process is manual. We also have to factor in the human error factor in a few transactions that can run your accountant crazy! There's also the bank fees to deposit all the customer's cheques. Bank fees will also increase your billing cost. With prepaid credit card, the payments are deposit into the business account daily as one payment which reduces the bank fees a lot. Billing services can cost as much as 15%to 20% of the service in some situation. With PrePaid services, the customer ends up saving a lot of money, but they have to make sure they have a valid credit card with their provider at all time. Cheers. Stephan Monette Unlimitel Inc. Tel.: 1-877-464-6638 Fax: (613) 482-1077 On 2010-08-03, at 11:38 AM, Kovalenko, Alex wrote: Unlimitel is definitely a great company to purchase your VoIP lines from. However they called me today to inform me that our lines will be cut if we do not pay our $50 bill which
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RE: [biz] Need DID provider (US CAN) who will invoice
Mike, I give IPCOMM a call and they told me they don't have support past business hours (something like 5:00 P.M.) For DIDs, have you ever had the need to call them for support? or maybe had downtime for the DIDs? I need to DIDs from them for Philadelphia CA and Dallas TX. As a regular user of their services I think you make a great candidate to give us some input on the quality of service from IPCOMM Thanks a lot, Bruce Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:32:50 -0400 From: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] Need DID provider (US CAN) who will invoice Dave, I use IPcomms and we are post paid and billed monthly, but I think there is a monthly minimum, now this may be committed channels or $ volume ( we do about $1,500 month ). Call their Sales department to find out their requirements. Mike On 07/19/2010 11:21 PM, Dave Donovan wrote: Hi Folks, I've seen a few recommendations on the list for DID providers and I know this is a relatively common question but I'd like to put a bit of a twist on it: I'm looking for post-paid. Maybe that's not even the right term. Basically, I want an invoice rather than credit card payment. Maybe cheap and easy DIDs aren't compatible with all the hassle of invoices and such, but I'm in a corporate environment and I'd rather not have to file an expense report for my phone service each month. Come to think of it, I don't even mind putting up a couple hundred dollars (way more than our monthly usage) so that it's not even truly 'post'-paid. I just want them to send an invoice to our AP department and leave me out of the monthly paperwork. I'm looking for a carrier who can do DID at least Termination would be a bonus. I wouldn't ask anyone to do my homework in terms of specific NPA-NXX support but in case anyone's interested, I'm looking for Philadelphia PA, San Diego CA, Malton ON, and Varennes QC in the short term. I've looked at IPcomms. I like their coverage area and self serve interface, but sadly it's all seems pre-paid. Like many others here, I enjoy good service with Unlimitel but it's credit card and Canadian only. If you've got experience with someone you like: good voice quality and good service, please let me know. If I'm barking up the wrong tree, I'd be happy if someone could take a minute and educate me. Thanks in advance, Dave Donovan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 14:36:00 -- Mike Ashton Quality Track International Work: +1 647 724 3500 x251 Cell: +1 416 527 4995 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. _ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388
[biz] Reliable DID providers with capability to port numbers
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Hi Guys, Have an immediate need for a 3u rackmount chassis, reasonably priced, that can be picked up in GTA. It has to fit a full length Sangoma A400 (which is twice the size of a regular PCI card in length. http://www.sangoma.com/products/hardware_products/analog_telephony/a400.html With or without CPU will do. Prefer new, but won't disregard used either if in great condition. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bruce _ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388
RE: [biz] HAPPY CANADA DAY HAPPY HST INVOICING
Yes, it's all at 13% now. Our politicians are getting smarter at robbing us off more money. Something a bit unrelated, but OES or known as electronic disposal fee per IP phone of $1 is just outrageous. Just another way of the government ripping everyone off in bright daylight. The IP phone most likely end up in China's waste lands but in exchange the Canadian Government gets fatter. -Bruce Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:02:59 -0400 From: aster...@neoenova.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] HAPPY CANADA DAY HAPPY HST INVOICING Happy Canada day everyone. Also happy invoicing! HST kicks in for everyone in Ontario today. I have not sent out invoices yet - but wondering how you the entrepreneur/business owner - will be invoicing your retail clients and your B2B clients. Are you simply going to mark taxes as HST 13% ? -- Toronto based VoIP / Asterisk Trainer, I.T. Consultant and Hosted PBX Solutions Provider. +1-647-476-2067. http://www.linkedin.com/in/seminar _ MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384
[biz] Who are the reliable DID providers for Dallas, USA?
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[biz] ITW - Useful?
Hi Guys, I am wondering if anyone has ever been to ITW and if it is a useful expo where decisions are made or if it's only for show by large companies. http://www.internationaltelecomsweek.com/ Thanks for the input. -Bruce _ Hotmail Messenger are available on your phone. Try now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724461
[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider
Philip, Using a PRI for all 911 calls is an interesting idea to me. Since PRI allows for Caller ID change and because you say that psap holds the the customer address then calling 911 through PRI with customers Caller ID should work. Interesting!!! Is that what some providers do? Any legal ramifications to this? Doesn't this infringe telco's terms of use? Can you elaborate on how to go about getting psap updated at better cost than what Saurin already mentioned? Because if it costs the same or more, might as well go with those service providers. Thanks,Bruce Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:16:27 -0400 From: philip.mul...@syx.ca To: sajm...@gmail.com CC: aster...@uc.org; biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider There are a multitude of providers that offer this already and cheaply, (we off this to 3rd parties if needed) other than that... there are many options for e911 some of which don't actually require sip trunking to a voip server (you can use your pri's). Its all about caller-id and ensuring the psap's have the customer did-address association setup correctly. Regards, Philip Mullis Vice President of Telecommunications Synergex Corp saurin ajmeri wrote: Good Morning, Hi All, we are in planning to start home phone service, like vbuzzer and freephoneline based on asterisk. As obvious we have have to comply with e911 to offer such a service. I got a quote for $1500 setup and $0.75/m per user with minimum $250/m charge. I would like to know if is there any other way to get e911 service and to provide it our customer. One interesting thing was, I can send e911 calls from as many server to them there is no extra charge if we gave them all server list at beginning, going forward once setup done we have to pay $100 for each add request. hmmm, It means if we have service setup with them once we can add server or share with other providerwho wants to provide similar service. In above scenario to save some money, if i share with somebody or if i get service from somebody who already have setup with them, does there would be any legal issue. Does anybody have e911 trunk setup with provider and would like to offer service.? Does anybody would like to get this service so we can share all expenses ? Thanks, Saurin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org _ Videos that have everyone talking! Now also in HD! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724465
[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider
Interesting again. CRTC doesn't require location info as long as you have a Caller ID being passed?! Does this mean, no updates to psap are required by law? From: j...@johnlange.ca To: philip.mul...@syx.ca CC: sajm...@gmail.com; aster...@uc.org; biz@taug.ca Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:42:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] E911 service provider On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:16 -0400, Philip Mullis wrote: There are a multitude of providers that offer this already and cheaply, (we off this to 3rd parties if needed) other than that... there are many options for e911 some of which don't actually require sip trunking to a voip server (you can use your pri's). Its all about caller-id and ensuring the psap's have the customer did-address association setup correctly. Just to be clear, if the device is a nomadic VOIP device, then sending calls direct to the PSAP is a violation of PSAP and CRTC regulations. The call _MUST_ first go to a operator who will verbally determine the callers location before routing the call to the correct PSAP. Location determination based on CallerID is not a CRTC requirement but all 3rd party 911 providers that I'm aware of use it as a backup. Regards, -- John Lange http://www.johnlange.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org _ Hotmail Messenger are available on your phone. Try now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724461
RE: [biz] Seminar on Unified Messaging, Presence, Mobility, and Video PBX integration
Amazing. Would this be recorded and posted to web somehow? Unfortunately, I am in China for 31st. Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:31:55 -0400 From: si...@uc.org To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] Seminar on Unified Messaging, Presence, Mobility, and Video PBXintegration There's a seminar this week in North York which TAUG members have been invited to attend: See firsthand how you can offer your customers innovative and affordable leading edge technology solutions offered by market leading Canadian companies in the field of Unified Messaging, Presence, Mobility, and Video PBX integration. Global companies, mobile workforces, social networking, increased video, and information overload: this is the new normal. To address these business needs, we connect people, information, and teams, helping to enable all-inclusive and effective shared experiences. We can help businesses: - Deploy true one box solutions that support voicemail, e-mail and fax. - Access and share video on the desktop, on the road, and on-demand, as easily as making a phone call - Improve team interactions, dynamically bringing together individuals, virtual work groups, and teams. - Improve company-wide communications by deploying fully-integrated messaging clients and presence servers for real time access. Who you will meet: babyTEL - Canadian provider of premium quality SIP trunking Service ESNA - Application developers of solutions for Mobility, Presence and Messaging Positron Telecom - Quality manufactures of powerful business phone systems Run Communications - Canadian based distributor of VoIP and security solutions Date and Times: Wednesday March 31st, 2010 Session 1: Breakfast 8:30am Session 2: Lunch: 12:30 pm RSVP: semi...@positrontelecom.com Location: TORONTO Novatel Toronto North York Hotel 3 Park Home Ave., Toronto, M2N 6L3 Directions: http://www.novotel.com/gb/hotel-0910-novotel-toronto-north-york/location.shtml - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca _ Take your contacts everywhere http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712959
RE: [biz] Collect calls on SIP
I have been asked by AllStream recently if I wanted to have collect calls feature on the PRI that I ordered from them. I said No as every calls was hitting IVR and there was no smart process to detect collect calls and accept them. From the question though, I believe that at least AllStream supports the feature. -Bruce From: nab...@x2n.ca To: biz@taug.ca Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:43:59 -0500 Subject: [biz] Collect calls on SIP I have a customer in Montreal with an odd request - they need to support collect calls on SIP trunks. Their business is such that toll-free numbers are not a viable option. I understand that a VoIP reseller with PRIs probably can't support this, since the PRIs probably have collect calls disabled. But I wonder if one of the bigger guys can do this? Also, the customer realises that providers may be hesitant and are willing to put down a deposit if necessary. -- Nabeel Jafferali X2 Networks Inc. _
RE: [biz] Collect calls on SIP
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[biz] A-Z providers please e-mail me off the list
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RE: [biz] Quote for Channels and DIDs
Recent prices are $550 - $670 for a full PRI from ILECs depending on contract length. -Bruce Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:20:00 -0500 From: siya...@gmail.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] Quote for Channels and DIDs Did you try Allstream? Roger On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd lloyd.aloys...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am looking for the pricing for the following. 1. 20 Bi Directional Channels pricing (Mississauga/Toronto) 2. 120 DIDs Pricing (Mississauga/Toronto) 3. Port 120 DIDs (Mississauga/Toronto) Please email me off the list Thank you Lloyd Tel: 416 479 0606 -- Yajie(Roger) Si _ Eligible CDN College University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819
[biz] consecutive numbers...
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[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Mediatrix channel resellers in GTA
Mistakenly posted to aster...@uc.org. Shifting this message over to biz thread. Sorry. Who sells Mediatrix products in Canada for reasonable price? Looking for Mediatrix 1102 or 2102 (what's the difference?). Thanks, Bruce From: het...@hotmail.com To: aster...@uc.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:31:07 -0500 Subject: [on-asterisk] Mediatrix channel resellers in GTA Hello, Who sells Mediatrix products in Canada for reasonable price? Looking for Mediatrix 1102 or 2102 (what's the difference?). Thanks,Bruce _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 _ Eligible CDN College University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819
RE: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Mediatrix channel resellers in GTA
Thanks for the great clarification Stephan. QOS makes a big difference in some instances. Regards, Bruce CC: biz@taug.ca From: monet...@unlimitel.ca Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:51:46 -0500 To: het...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Mediatrix channel resellers in GTA Bruce, The MTX2102 is designed to be connected between your modem and your router and manages it's own QOS for VoIP. The MTX1102 is designed to be connected behind your router with no QOS. This is the only difference (software) between the 2 units. We sell the MTX2102 to our customers and we never hear about them unless the customer has some issues with their internet connection. We sold over 500 units and we only got 2 DoA (dead on arrival) units. This is the only 2 units we had to RMA in the past 5 years. That said, they're not the cheapest around, but your support cost is very low. Good luck. Stephan Monette Unlimitel Inc. On 2009-12-10, at 5:33 PM, Bruce N wrote: Mistakenly posted to aster...@uc.org. Shifting this message over to biz thread. Sorry. Who sells Mediatrix products in Canada for reasonable price? Looking for Mediatrix 1102 or 2102 (what's the difference?). Thanks, Bruce From: het...@hotmail.com To: aster...@uc.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:31:07 -0500 Subject: [on-asterisk] Mediatrix channel resellers in GTA Hello, Who sells Mediatrix products in Canada for reasonable price? Looking for Mediatrix 1102 or 2102 (what's the difference?). Thanks,Bruce _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 _ Eligible CDN College University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815
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[biz] A2Billing + PayPal Pro
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RE: [biz] Aastra systems
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RE: [biz] how do I get DIDs to setup an ITSP
Hello Peng, 1- CRTC is a regulatory body for communications and does not provide the services you need. Bell, Allstream, Rogers, or even ITSPs can provide you with DIDs. 2- Question too general. Depends on your business model, geographic area, type of market you are looking to penetrate, etc... 3- Even using ENUM you still have to pay for DIDs if you are looking to use it. Not sure which provider does ENUM. Hope this help,Bruce Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:19:01 -0400 From: lipeng8...@gmail.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] how do I get DIDs to setup an ITSP HI Guys, I was wondering somebody can shed some lights on the following questions. Suppose I'd like to start a business, like, Vonage, iTalkbb, unlimitel, etc. VOIP ITSP and provide many customers with DIDs. 1. Where do I go to get those DIDs? Is it from Bell, Allstream, Rogers, or CRTC? 2. What's the best approach for customer to receive call from PSTN and call PSTN? Do I set up a T1 link with Bell, Allstream, Rogers? or Do I set up a SIP trunk with Bell, Rogers, Unlimitel? 3. How to use ENUM or SIPbroker with this? It seems interesting to have all PSTN number (owner has some voip box) registered in e164.org and those call between can bypass PSTN from one ITSP to another ITSP. isn't this beautiful for users as well as ITSP? Does unlimitel.ca, vonage, etc support this? It should be a free call between ENUM registered users and not paying any $$ to PSTN and ITSP. The same goes to sipbroker. Just try to gather some ideas. thanks in advance. Peng _ New! Open Messenger faster on the MSN homepage http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677405
[biz] Flash programmers
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RE: [biz] Re: [on-asterisk] RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
Hello, There are no prices yet. But I assuming as soon as we hit half rack number then we can start negotiating prices. You should be fine even if you are from US. Someone on the team should be able to help you out with a server setup. I am wondering if TAUG planning team require a 1U space too for a test server ? ;) Regards,Bruce To: soar...@gmail.com; het...@hotmail.com CC: aster...@uc.org; biz@taug.ca; boying...@gmail.com; skooby...@gmail.com; er...@bbn.ca; k.ma...@aquariustel.com; alexk...@gmail.com; jag_bas...@hotmail.com; sajm...@gmail.com; te...@octothorp.org; russl...@gmail.com From: who...@harmac.com Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:28:40 -0400 Subject: RE: [biz] Re: [on-asterisk] RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location What are we looking at for price (close guess)? Can I utilize this from the US? Original Message From : Leo Soares To : Bruce N Cc : asterisk Mailing , , , , , Keith Major (Aquariustel.com) , , , , , Sent on : 05/14/2009 10:45:19 PM Subject : [biz] Re: [on-asterisk] RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location Count me in also 1-2u Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Bruce N wrote: Hi Guys, Seems like we got two more people on the list now. te...@..1urusslevy@...1uboying...@.. 1usajm...@1u k.ma...@1u skooby...@.. 1U br...@..1u alex.k...@..2u jag_bas...@. 6U If we partner up with Jag --- Total = 15U Wondering if anyone has found any good deals yet? -Bruce _ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca This electronic message transmission contains information from Harmac Medical Products that may be confidential or privileged. The information in this electronic message is only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use of the contents of this electronic message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please delete the message, destroy all copies of it, and notify us immediately either by telephone at (716) 897-4500 EXT. 205 or by electronic mail to i...@harmac.com Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca
RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
Going through the posts I can see the following people interested: sajm...@gmail.com k.ma...@aquariustel.com skooby...@gmail.com het...@hotmail.com Please add your e-mail address to the list and then we can agree on terms or choices. Like to see this happening really quick. I think you should add your name even if you are looking for Dedicated hosting rather than co-location because we can even get aggregated co-lo + dedicated servers even if required. -Bruce Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:26:21 -0400 From: skooby...@gmail.com To: het...@hotmail.com CC: p...@xelerance.com; er...@bbn.ca; biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location So is this a go or no go? I'd be interested in placing a box or two out there if we can make something work. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Bruce N het...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification Erik. Hello Paul, You may not get the best shared deal out there but it's much less headache than with a true co-op system anyways. Would you actually go out and sue the guy with only 1U server just because he bailed out? I guess you never filed in courts to know what the costs are to sue people for every single little thing out there. A co-op system like this would never have the money to come up with the paralegal fees even. So, you are not much more secured anyways with such a system; anyhow, by picking one person I meant just a rep to grab good prices like Erik said. For a co-op system once you calculate the administration cost, insurance cost for bail outs, etc...you are already loosing whatever you thought you might have saved in the first place. What I purposed was a separate contract btw the individual and co-lo provider for every single member so issues like what you mentioned never happen and still you get a better rate than going in individually. Again, just a thought. -Bruce Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:23 -0400 From: p...@xelerance.com To: er...@bbn.ca CC: het...@hotmail.com; biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location On Wed, 6 May 2009, Erik Turk wrote: I think the co-op is one method of providing the desired service. Another way is for us to say to existing providers - hey, we have 40 people who want this type of service - what Then you are just 40 individuals. With your own bandwidth constrains, without being able to combine the traffic into a good deal with 95 percentile. If that was a good option, we'd all already be hosting our 1U server. can you do for us, and then each of us makes an individual decision whether or not to enter a business relationship with that provider. My understanding is that Bruce was mentioning the latter as an option. Neither of the 40 people would likely be able to get 24/7 access, since you're only a 1U customer. No aggregate bandwidth to allow us to peak etc. etc. Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca _ Find info faster and easier with Internet Explorer 8. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655583 _ Find info faster and easier with Internet Explorer 8. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655583
RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
Great idea. I will occupy 1u right away with a strong desire to go with 5U in next 3 months. Is anyone else in? Only looking for quality providers though. -Bruce Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:23:35 -0400 From: sajm...@gmail.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location Hi All, I am wondering if some of you guys have think about shared co-location. As many of us starting or new in telco business its good idea to save on collocation. My idea is kind of co-op type of collocation where we goona take whole rack and will share cost between interested parties. It will be fair share based on number of server. Well most of us will gonna host asterisk or gonna use it for voip, we will get 100mbps unmetered rack. We can make kind of co-op and we cannot just share rack but we can go towards hardware purchase too for better pricing ( oops, I am thinking too far). I am sure this will bring great savings too us. If anybody interested.I don't know if it is feasible idea..Any concern or comments are most welcome I have pricing from one of the colo provider which is Full Rack30A 110V AC Power Remote Switch PDU 100 Mbps Dedicated Unlimited Unmetered Bandwidth $2199/month Thanks, Saurin Ajmeri Cellular Spectrum Inc. _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621
RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
Does it even have to be an established co-op? If 40 people from this list want to even sign up for 1U each then we can take that offer and sign 40 good deals right there for every 1U without any administrative costs and overhead or headache to any of us. No registration of organization needed. All it takes is we pick one person to e-mail different providers and then decide on who to go with. Of course the co-lo providers can come up with a special agreement / special prices for such a big group. Everyone can sign up their own agreement with the co-lo provider. This way no one cares about who leaves or not. It's the co-lo's job to make sure their customer's stay by providing easy access, good link, great customer service, etc...but we can also agree to pay on behalf of others shared pay if someone leaves the rack which should happen very rarely knowing the sort of business people do on this list. Again that sort of thing will be immidiately filled up. I am assuming the whole point of this is to conserve on the money and still have full control of your link, power, etc...and individual sign-up is the most effective. Just a thought... :) -Bruce Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:38:55 -0400 From: sajm...@gmail.com To: t...@communicatefreely.net CC: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location I've thought about it but never got it organized. There are numerous administrative issues, such as: who is the legal entity that will contract with the colo provider? what do you as a co-op do when a member can't pay? Who will spend the several hours every month forever consolidating the funds from members to the colo? Who pays the excess during months when some sections are vacant (e.g., what happens if one member pulls out 10U and it takes you a few months to replace them?) Ian, Your concern are valid and we can address all this administrative issue once we have confirmed numbers for members who are intrested in this idea and their commitment for number of servers. Couple of idea to tackle this issues are... - We can register a coop association as a TAUG or in diffrent name. - Somebody can take over responsibity for management task for which he will get reimburse. - We can ask member to pay upfront for 6 month.Which will insure that we have valid and stable members. - It almost impossible for small biz individually to have colo for let say 3/5/10 servers with 100mbps unmertered in less then $1000/month. -So let say we have 48U Rack and cost is $2500, we will fix rate at $100 per server which brings $4800 for rack and access money after paying colo cost can be used as administrative cost. This way many members who have small number of server can participate. Tim, Could you please share some more details about your colo providers. Its seems that They have right cabinet for us to share. We can eliminate many issue concerned by marc. Thanks again to all for quick response, suggestion and concern. All, please share colo providers info and rates so we can find something better. Saurin On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Tim St. Pierre t...@communicatefreely.netwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The company we co-locate with had some racks made up that are 5U 10U 20U and 4U (full rack) cabinets. If you have a 5U cabinet, the rack is divided up into 8 smaller cabinets, each with it's own locking door, individual network drop and AC circuit. It provides all the physical security one needs, and allows the carrier to rent out small chunks of space to small customers. I like it because I have 24 hour unescorted access to my machines, and I know that nobody else can touch them. I also don't have to worry about someone tripping the circuit breaker, or congesting my network segment, as I get a 100Mb connection all to myself. The prices I'm paying are comparable to what the fractions of a larger cabinet would cost. If you are thinking of adding cabinets Bill, this might be something to think about. If someone is using your network for SIP trunking and IP connectivity, you can do an awful lot with 5 or even 10 rack units. - -Tim Bill Sandiford wrote: Hello All: Thanks for the kind words Henry. Telnet would be happy to assist TAUG members that want to take advantage of this sort of an arrangement. We would need to go over some of the details with the group, but I'm pretty sure we can find a way to get it done and could even help with some of the management type issues. We like to think that our IP network is ideal for VoIP customers. We only use quality transit providers and we are directly peered with most other carriers in Canada. In addition to the ITSP (DID / SIP Trunk) services that we provide ourselves, our network is only a few hops away from most of the other service providers like Voice Network, Comwave, ISP Telecom, and
RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
Thanks for the clarification Erik. Hello Paul, You may not get the best shared deal out there but it's much less headache than with a true co-op system anyways. Would you actually go out and sue the guy with only 1U server just because he bailed out? I guess you never filed in courts to know what the costs are to sue people for every single little thing out there. A co-op system like this would never have the money to come up with the paralegal fees even. So, you are not much more secured anyways with such a system; anyhow, by picking one person I meant just a rep to grab good prices like Erik said. For a co-op system once you calculate the administration cost, insurance cost for bail outs, etc...you are already loosing whatever you thought you might have saved in the first place. What I purposed was a separate contract btw the individual and co-lo provider for every single member so issues like what you mentioned never happen and still you get a better rate than going in individually. Again, just a thought. -Bruce Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:23 -0400 From: p...@xelerance.com To: er...@bbn.ca CC: het...@hotmail.com; biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location On Wed, 6 May 2009, Erik Turk wrote: I think the co-op is one method of providing the desired service. Another way is for us to say to existing providers - hey, we have 40 people who want this type of service - what Then you are just 40 individuals. With your own bandwidth constrains, without being able to combine the traffic into a good deal with 95 percentile. If that was a good option, we'd all already be hosting our 1U server. can you do for us, and then each of us makes an individual decision whether or not to enter a business relationship with that provider. My understanding is that Bruce was mentioning the latter as an option. Neither of the 40 people would likely be able to get 24/7 access, since you're only a 1U customer. No aggregate bandwidth to allow us to peak etc. etc. Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca _ Find info faster and easier with Internet Explorer 8. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655583
RE: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs
Hello, Thanks for the input. What happens if an Australian number is passed as CallerID using a North American PRI or VoIP Provider which allow CLID manipulation? Do Aussies see Unknown? In regards to restrictions, I have experienced your pain. Their voip service seems to be more of a hassel than applying for analogue phone. Thanks, Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:23:45 -0400 From: mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com To: biz@taug.ca Subject: Re: [biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs Bruce, My experience with Australia is this. I can buy DID's through Didx and using my North American wholesale termination provider I can transmit the CallerID, but I pay more for the call and there are latency issues on the outbound. If I bought DID's from my Australian provider I can not transmit my callerid unless I can prove residence or a mailing address. But when making calls there is minimal latency. So what we do is dial out using our Australian provider and CallerID is sent as unknown. And inbound comes in via our purchased did's from didx. There are a bunch of countries that are implementing rules for proof of residency to be able to purchase did's. Germany is the most aggressive with this, we had some there but they cracked down and we had to give them up. The only other way around this is if you had someone who acted as a n agent and registered the account using their info to get the numbers. Mike Bruce N wrote: From: het...@hotmail.com To: i...@startelecom.ca; b...@uc.org Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:27:04 -0400 Hi Guys, I am looking for Australian DIDs or mostly Voip phone plans that allow you to obtain DID and do call outs from the same CallerID. I have a list of VoIP providers there but they make it really hard to obtain a phone number using Canadian credit card and also needing ID to establish that you live there. Anyone here has a service provider that can list which I would be able to get DID from with Paypal or a Canadian credit card? Thanks, Bruce From: i...@startelecom.ca To: het...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:27:44 -0400 Bruce, My experience has been that quality Australian DIDs are difficult to provide via VoIP due to latency. This info is a couple of years old, but the last time I checked Australia isn't any closer :-). Just something to look out for. Cheers, Ivan -Original Message- From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:05 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs Hi Guys, Looking for a solid quality Australian DID/VoIP provider which allows CLI modification. Two channels would be a bonus; one channel is just fine too. Quality is important. Anyone you recommand? Probably even CLI modification is not needed as long as outbound calls through provider show DID CLID based from Australia. I guess a Sydney number or any of the more popular cities would do. Thanks, Bruce _ Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650731 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org Windows Live Messenger makes it easier to stay in touch - learn how! _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 -- Mike Ashton Quality Track Intl CTO Ph: 647-724-3500 x 301 Cell: 416-527-4995 Fax: 416-352-6043 QTI CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY INFORMATION The contents of this material are confidential and proprietary to Quality Track International, Inc. and may not be reproduced, disclosed, distributed or used without the express permission of an authorized representative of QTI. Use for any purpose or in any manner other than that expressly authorized is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca
[biz] RE: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs
From: het...@hotmail.com To: i...@startelecom.ca; b...@uc.org Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:27:04 -0400 Hi Guys, I am looking for Australian DIDs or mostly Voip phone plans that allow you to obtain DID and do call outs from the same CallerID. I have a list of VoIP providers there but they make it really hard to obtain a phone number using Canadian credit card and also needing ID to establish that you live there. Anyone here has a service provider that can list which I would be able to get DID from with Paypal or a Canadian credit card? Thanks, Bruce From: i...@startelecom.ca To: het...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:27:44 -0400 Bruce, My experience has been that quality Australian DIDs are difficult to provide via VoIP due to latency. This info is a couple of years old, but the last time I checked Australia isn't any closer :-). Just something to look out for. Cheers, Ivan -Original Message- From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:05 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Australian DIDs Hi Guys, Looking for a solid quality Australian DID/VoIP provider which allows CLI modification. Two channels would be a bonus; one channel is just fine too. Quality is important. Anyone you recommand? Probably even CLI modification is not needed as long as outbound calls through provider show DID CLID based from Australia. I guess a Sydney number or any of the more popular cities would do. Thanks, Bruce _ Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650731 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org Windows Live Messenger makes it easier to stay in touch - learn how! _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621
[biz] Couple of Hundred Dollars Bounty for Report and Call Records Web GUI
Hello Everyone, There is about couple of hundred dollars bounty for anyone who would like to come up with a script to move calls that are recorded into /var/spool/asterisk/monitor into organized folders per day and then display them on a page for download and playback. The script(s) are to meet the following requirements: 1- FreePBX General tab has a field that allows for a script to be entered and to be run right after a recording is done. This makes it easy to organise the recorded file into different directories named per days of the month. So the script can be set there unless you come up with a different or better way of doing it. 2- Once files are organised, an html, php, etc...page will display all extensions that are available on the system (in a password protected page) and will allow user to pick an extension (by URL) to see reports or recorded calls. 3- The script will query MySql and pull reports of calls made and will match with recorded calls and allows for playback or download. In the mean while it will display any failed, un-answered, etc...calls in the report. System to be deployed on: - Elastix 1.3 - Uses FreePBX recording turned ON always for recording to /var/spool/asterisk/monitor - About 35 extensions with contineous recording on. Please e-mail me off-list with your offer. Note: you can borrow/use code from ARI Recordings of FreePBX or Monitoring section of Elastix but this is not be anywhere as complex as any of those modules. This is a simple display of audio files and reports and nothing more. Reason for not using any of the reporting that comes with FreePBX is it's complexity of nature of showing too much information which doesn't make sense to clients. Also, being stuck with file system Ext3 there is a 32k inode limit and have high call numbers of about 50, 000 per year mean trouble if everything is saved into one folder. Thanks, Bruce _ Share photos with friends on Windows Live Messenger http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650734 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca
[biz] Looking for SRW248G4P for pickup today
Hello, Looking for local pickup of Linksys SRW248G4P for *TODAY. Please send quotes. Thanks, Bruce _ So many new options, so little time. Windows Live Messenger. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: biz-unsubscr...@taug.ca For additional commands, e-mail: biz-h...@taug.ca
