Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
David Hobby wrote:

Travis Edmunds wrote:
 

From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:28:56 -0800 (PST)
Heh. How about the Zentraedi from Macross. Nothing
like a 40ft tall giant for fun. Arm them with light
cannon and heavy machine guns (for 20th/21st C tech)
and they can be pretty dangerous. Feeding them is the
problem though...
Damon :)

 

Yes feeding them would be a problem, thus rendering them impractical.
   

As with most questions, I imagine the reader is supposed to
interpret it so that it makes sense.  Here's the original:
 

For example, the other day a friend of mine asked me an interesting 
question. He wanted to know what type of species I would use, if I could 
magically have one million individuals of that species, as a ground force 
army. The one stipulation being that my army would have to employ military 
hardware of today's technology.
   

	So you can't use vampires, or episarchs, or Kryptonians,
because allowing them makes the question degenerate.  Or put it 
this way--anything can come, but they have to leave their powers
with the physics of their home universes.
	I'm with Damon, it doesn't say anything about the SIZE 
of the million individuals, at least as long as they can move
around on a planet.  So bigger is better!  Feeding them should
not be an issue; one assumes that an army comes with supplies.
It could well degenerate into a contest to name bigger 
species...  but I do like the human consciousness in dinosaur 
bodies things mentioned in Banks's _Feersum Endjinn_, and even 
in _Kiln People_ there were dittoes of similar sizes.
 

A couple of terminators would be nice and durable. I'd go for any of the 
later models though.

Sonja
GCU: Hasta la vista baby
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Travis Edmunds



From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:17:06 +

In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest
species in the cosmos.
Alberto Monteiro

That's the most vain, overzealous, and optimistic cliche in sci-fi. But if 
they're tough, it's all cool lol

_
Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.  
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photospgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Travis Edmunds



BTW to all the new people who have showed up recently:

Welcome to our humble chuckwagon. Pull up a seat and place your order.
(Ignore the grime on the cooks fingers G)
Thanks.


How did you folks happen upon our commons?

Someone referred me here.

_
MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*.  
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:06:56 -0500
As with most questions, I imagine the reader is supposed to
interpret it so that it makes sense.  Here's the original:
So you can't use vampires, or episarchs, or Kryptonians,
because allowing them makes the question degenerate.  Or put it
this way--anything can come, but they have to leave their powers
with the physics of their home universes.
I'm with Damon, it doesn't say anything about the SIZE
of the million individuals, at least as long as they can move
around on a planet.  So bigger is better!  Feeding them should
not be an issue; one assumes that an army comes with supplies.
It could well degenerate into a contest to name bigger
species...  but I do like the human consciousness in dinosaur
bodies things mentioned in Banks's _Feersum Endjinn_, and even
in _Kiln People_ there were dittoes of similar sizes.
	---David
I see what you're saying. Allow me to define this a little more clearly. 
Obviously a Kryptonian would be a little more robust than a Klingon 
lol.I could use various super beings. However, in order to keep things 
somewhat in line, simply self moderate your own thinking. Don't go too far 
fetched with it. Anything that's some uber powerful lifeform must be 
eliminated from your picks. Keep in mind though, that is only the first 
little scenario on the table. Go where you want with it!!. But first it 
would be nice to resolve the one million standing army scenario.

Another thing to consider is how believeable your picks are. My three aren't 
too out there, and I had decided that based on my criteria, they were 
pretty much the top three choices (that I know of) that I could have made.

-Travis

_
Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.  
http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/featurespgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:57:12 -0500
From the Star Trek world, I'd take the Founders over the Jem'Hadar or the
Klingons, any day, for obvious shape-shifting reasons.
In some ways I would also. But in the context of my criteria, the Founders 
are a little too outlandish (shapeshifting is a little too out there for 
this scenario). Besides, my picks would be easier to control. You have to 
factor EVERYTHING into the equation.

I guess the Q would be ruled out...  A army of veiny-brainy's from The 
Cage might be able to use their illusions to make any opponents kill 
themselves, make enemy space fleets dive into the sun, etc.
They would certainly merit consideration in a different scenario.

Can we count the X-Men mutants as a species?
Again, it's a little too out there.

Vampires would make a pretty tough army, depending on which universe you 
pull them from.
Yes indeed. I can see it nowGeneral Lestat.

A million Jedi would be neato, even without light sabers, particularly if 
we include the force powers seen in the LucasArts Jedi Knight games.
Yeah!! Awesome games.

How about Dragonball Z Super Saiyans?
Seeing as how I'm a comic freak; and DBZ is based originally from comics, I 
have to say that some of the characters from that Universe are some of the 
toughest in the comic world.



-Travis

_
Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.  
http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:44:01 -0600
Someone once suggested that Tromites have the potential of being among the 
most powerful beings around, but the writers never seem to allow the sole 
surviving representative of that race to cut loose.  (Perhaps that's why 
they made him some sort of monk . . . ?)

Can you elaborate a little? I'm a comic freak, yet have never heard of 
Tromites.

While sticking to Marvel/DC though, I can say that the Hulk is viewed as 
being possibly the most powerful being. It is conjectured that he has no 
limitations, and can quite simply grow ever more powerful.

_
MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*.  
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Lesh

2003-12-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Trent Shipley wrote:

 Lesh ab-Tothtoon ab-Rosh ab-Kosh ab-Erbl
  ul-Zhuup ul-Vijls ul-Lith ul-Heebi

Erbl? Erbl uplifted them?

And the order should be ab-Erbl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

Alberto Monteiro

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Lesh

2003-12-13 Thread Trent Shipley
On Saturday 2003-12-13 05:36, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
 Trent Shipley wrote:
  Lesh ab-Tothtoon ab-Rosh ab-Kosh ab-Erbl
   ul-Zhuup ul-Vijls ul-Lith ul-Heebi

 Erbl? Erbl uplifted them?

I picked Erbl because I thought it was an unused nonsense word.  Has it been 
used already for something else in the Uplift Universe?

 And the order should be ab-Erbl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

Sorry.  My bad.

 Alberto Monteiro

 ___
 http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Michael Harney

From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 As with most questions, I imagine the reader is supposed to
 interpret it so that it makes sense.  Here's the original:

  For example, the other day a friend of mine asked me an interesting
  question. He wanted to know what type of species I would use, if I could
  magically have one million individuals of that species, as a ground
force
  army. The one stipulation being that my army would have to employ
military
  hardware of today's technology.

 So you can't use vampires, or episarchs, or Kryptonians,
 because allowing them makes the question degenerate.  Or put it
 this way--anything can come, but they have to leave their powers
 with the physics of their home universes.

I don't think that is neccessary, each of the species you suggested as being
super-powered has a weekness to them.
Vampires are burned by UV light and sunlight, and are vulnerable to garlic,
silver, holy icons, etc.  Episiarchs (which I thought of suggesting, but
changed my mind) are unpredictable and are dangerous to allies without the
technology to distract them when you don't want them reaping havoc on the
laws of physics (as was mentioned in _Startide Rising_).  Kryponians are
vulnerable to certain forms of radiation that humans are not vulnerable to.
Additionally, Kryponians are only powerful because of the yellow sun of
earth if the battle is on a planet other than earth, kryptonians may only be
as good as humans, or possibly even worse.

 I'm with Damon, it doesn't say anything about the SIZE
 of the million individuals, at least as long as they can move
 around on a planet.  So bigger is better!  Feeding them should
 not be an issue; one assumes that an army comes with supplies.
 It could well degenerate into a contest to name bigger
 species...  but I do like the human consciousness in dinosaur
 bodies things mentioned in Banks's _Feersum Endjinn_, and even
 in _Kiln People_ there were dittoes of similar sizes.

Not necessarily, bigger may just make them bigger targets and would limit
the technology that they could use in a battle.  They would not be able to
use planes (bombers, fighters, etc.),  they would be difficult to transport,
etc., so they would be at a serious tactical disadvantage.

Me, I think I would go for an army of Scarans (from Farscape).  Sure, I'd
need to keep nurseries of Birds of Paradise flowers, but that's well within
today's technology.

Michael Harney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Notes on Junior Members of Clan Thennanin

2003-12-13 Thread Trent Shipley
!-- Begin HTML frag --
ul
  liThennanin [patronym specified]/li
  ul
liPaimin [patronym specified]/li
ul
  liPah [patronym specified]/li
ul
  liGirpaimin lt;immaturegt; [patronym specified]/li
/ul
  liNus [patronym specified]/li
  liKraraton lt;immaturegt; [patronym specified]/li
/ul
liRammin [patronym specified]/li
ul
  liVlught [patronym specified]/li
  ul
liLohtngos lt;immaturegt; [patronym specified]/li
  /ul
/ul
liYnnin lt;immaturegt; [patronym specified]/li
liOlumimin lt;immaturegt; [patronym specified]/li
liNahalli lt;immature as punishmentgt; [patronym specified]/li
liGarthling [or Chooser] 
  (formerly Neo-Gorilla) lt;immaturegt; [patronym specified]/li
  /ul
/ul
!-- End HTML frag --

With GURPS Uplift 2nd ed and Contacting Aliens available I do not want to eat 
into sales.  Less important, but significant, is avoiding increasing entropy 
by contradicting other sources.  Even so, none of the sources can reasonably 
be understood as listing all the generations under the Thennanin.  Herein, I 
try finish the Thennanin Clan tree.

--

Paimin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon
   ul-Pah ul-Nus ul-Karaton

The Paimin are the Thennanin's eldest client species.  They are long past 
their indenture.  Paimin were uplifted to help the Thennanin with diplomacy 
and public relations.

--

Pah ab-Paimin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon
ul-Girpaimin

The Pah were uplifted from solitary stalker/pouncer carnivores resembling the 
Tiger on Earth.  The Pah were uplifted to provide security and intelligence 
for Paimin diplomatic missions.  The Pah also made up much of the Paimin 
contribution to the Thennanin Clan military forces.  Except for select roles, 
the Pah were mediocre warriors.  The Pah are devout Abdicator.

--

Girpaimin ab-Pah ab-Paimin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

Girpaimin were uplifted from a avian species that had returned to living on 
the ground.  The flightless proto-Girpaimin had four limbs.  The upper limbs 
had two fingered claws without palms.  Proto-Girpaimin lived in large pack 
sized groups on sub-tropical savannahs eating roots, berries, grain, small 
animals, and occasionally cooperatively hunting moderate sized prey or 
stealing ill protected kills.  Girpaimin mating rituals involved constructing 
fairly elaborate bowers.  

Girpaimin are currently stage three clients.  They are being uplifted to 
replace the Pah in many military capacities.  Clan Paimin also uses the 
Girpaimin in many engineering jobs.  Some Girpaimin have already become 
notable Architects and Arcologists.   


--

Nus ab-Paimin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

The Nus are mature clients.  They were raised to help the Paimin in their 
primary mission as servitors and protocol experts.  Proto-Nus were hexapodal 
centaurs with three sexes and two castes.  One sex was a neuter sex.  A 
productive group consisted of at least six members.  With mutch ritual the 
fishing caste and fruit harvesting caste exchanged food.

Now adult, the Nus are seeking a niche in Galactic society.

--

Kraraton ab-Paimin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

Stage five clients, the Kraraton are noted poets and dramatists.  They have a 
pronounced sense of humor.

--

Rammin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

Fatalistic warriors whose uplift and world-view optimized them for 
particularly daring professions like fighter pilot.  They avoid outside 
control and keep to themselves.

--

Vlught ab-Rammin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

The Vlught are a mature client.  The proto-Vlught were avian hunters who 
resembled Earths raptors.  Uplifted Vlught can still fly.  They are excellent 
pilots and were uplifted to relieve the Rammin from many of their obligations 
to Clan Thennanin.  The Vlught are enthusiastic, even fanatical, members of 
Clan Thennanin.  They have a reputation as poor diplomats and merchants. 
   
--

Lohtngos ab-Vlught ab-Rammin ab-Thennanin ab-Wortl ab-Kosh ab-Rosh ab-Tothtoon

The Lohtngos are second stage clients of the Vlught.  Proto-Lohtngos were 
herd-dwelling, wading browsers and grazers.  The proto-Lohtngos lived in 
sizable herds and had moderately complex social structures.  Uplifted 
Lohtngos work well together, enjoy the company of other species and have a 
passion for environmental issues.  The Vlught hope that the Lohtngos will 
help alleviate the perceived Vlught deficit in diplomacy.
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Notes on Junior Members of Clan Thennanin

2003-12-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/13/2003 5:12:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 With GURPS Uplift 2nd ed and Contacting Aliens available I do not want to 
eat 
 
  into sales.  Less important, but significant, is avoiding increasing 
entropy 
 
  by contradicting other sources.

I want our good Dr. Brin to contradict GURPS--again!

The Garthlings chose their own cohorts, numans and chimpanzees.

Clearly in violation of the rules as set up by GURPS.

I want the same thing to happen with the Rousit.

You remember the Rousit?

So insignificant that they were left out of both the AfP, and Contacting 
Aliens.

(hehehe)

William Taylor
--
Chronologist for
the Hoonish Renaissance.
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Notes on Junior Members of Clan Thennanin

2003-12-13 Thread Trent Shipley



 I want our good Dr. Brin to contradict GURPS--again!

 The Garthlings chose their own cohorts, numans and chimpanzees.

 Clearly in violation of the rules as set up by GURPS.

I don't think its in violation of GURPS rules.  Its just a violation of 
standard behavior.  Few pre-level-one clients would be *capable* of providing 
any input into who they wanted as their patron.  Even if they could, few 
would have the political option to do so.  

Even in the context of _Uplift War_  choosing needs to be understood in 
context.  The Gorillas were very impressed with the Thennanin ambasador, the 
Uplift officials interpreted the Gorilla infatuation as a choice of patron.  
It is the sort of thing that is *unique* in Galactic history and allowing the 
Rousit to do the same would cheapen the symbolic import of the Garthlings as 
Choosers.

 I want the same thing to happen with the Rousit.

 You remember the Rousit?

Barely.  They play a very minor role in the Jijo books, no?  Given your 
interest I am guessing that their patrons were Hoon?

 So insignificant that they were left out of both the AfP, and Contacting
 Aliens.

 (hehehe)

 William Taylor
 --
 Chronologist for
 the Hoonish Renaissance.
 ___
 http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Jim Sharkey

I'd vote for the Tandu, wookiees, and the Minbari myself.

Jim

___
Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com
The most personalized portal on the Web!
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Alabama stuff

2003-12-13 Thread G. D. Akin
Steve Sloan II wrote:

 G. D. Akin wrote:

  You're in Huntsville

 I am. Ronn's in the Birmingham area.

---

Just FYI, I was stationed at Maxwell AFB in Montgomery from 1988-1993.  My
daughter is a University of Alabama Chemical Engineer gradate though she
gave up engineering after 5 years of making paper at the International Paper
mill near Selma.  She is now a student at the Auburn School of Verterinary
Medicine.

George A


___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Notes on Junior Members of Clan Thennanin

2003-12-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/13/2003 6:43:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The Garthlings chose their own cohorts, numans and chimpanzees.
  
   Clearly in violation of the rules as set up by GURPS.
  
  I don't think its in violation of GURPS rules.  Its just a violation of 
  standard behavior.  Few pre-level-one clients would be *capable* of 
 providing 
  any input into who they wanted as their patron.  Even if they could, few 
  would have the political option to do so.  
  
  Even in the context of _Uplift War_  choosing needs to be understood in 
  context.  The Gorillas were very impressed with the Thennanin ambasador, 
the 
 
  Uplift officials interpreted the Gorilla infatuation as a choice of 
patron.  
 
  It is the sort of thing that is *unique* in Galactic history and allowing 
 the 
  Rousit to do the same would cheapen the symbolic import of the Garthlings 
as 
 
  Choosers.


Well, no..not exactly the same situation. The Garthlings got to choose their 
patron, as well as their cohorts.

Only the cohort(s) for the Rousit.

The current Rousit cohort has to be some politically unimportant neutral 
race, who's willing to go along with whatever the Hoon want to do. That, 
naturally, would be to turn the Rousit into dour serious little accountant copies of 
hoons.

And I can't see Mudfoot as allowing this to happen.

In a perfect fit of rational stubborness, Alvin buys the Uplift Ceremony 
equipment that was left on Garth. He can afford it. His journal was published on 
Earth as soon as the Galactic Institutes ruled that no actions would be taken 
against any race or person involved with what took place on Jijo.

And because of the Tandu... er...um., actions, an Uplift Ceremony would be 
a good distraction.

(He got his first unexpected royalty check the day after his well known one 
year on Hurmuphta journal entry..)

There are 42 Hoon home or colony planets. Alvin was having daily visits from 
just the population of Hurumphta.

So.. ...better than Bill Gates, shall we say.

The Rousit, not being insane, choose the Tymbrimi instead of the Tytlal as 
their new stage one cohorts.  Also the Forski, for their first true joke. 

(They heard the musical duel between a hoon actor and a Forski.)

The joke is on the Soro. By law they can't accompany the Forski to the Rousit 
homeworld, Arilarah, and the Forski just can't keep secrets when not subdued 
by the Soro.

---all somewhat approved by our good Dr. Brin. The timing for all of this is 
years away from the present. Both real and in the Uplift Universe. The time 
for all of this is right when the last members of the skiff crew are being 
found, or are coming out of hiding.

As for what the stage one Rousit can and can't do...

I don't see them talking yet--they're still too small.

But many can see tytlal glyphs on a level better than a Jijo hoonish sage.

Note: all Rousit on Hurumphta are the 'rejects' to the Hoon breeding program.

They're trying to breed out their sense of humor.

And I don't think I'm being very original. From what Dr. Brin set up, I can't 
see things being much different. A leads to B leads to C, etc.

William Taylor
-
Great Santini yes.
It's a Wonderful Life no.

(So much for holiday TV programs.)
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Holiday TV

2003-12-13 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -
 Great Santini yes.
 It's a Wonderful Life no.
 
 (So much for holiday TV programs.)

Heh.  Dan was watching Wonderful Life until the tag-team fussing drove
him out of the room.

It's about to drive me out of my mind, personally.  :P  They just want
to fuss tonight, it seems.  Wonder if they're headed for another
flip-flop on the who's-the-fussiest front

Julia
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:10 AM 12/13/03, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:44:01 -0600
Someone once suggested that Tromites have the potential of being among 
the most powerful beings around, but the writers never seem to allow the 
sole surviving representative of that race to cut loose.  (Perhaps that's 
why they made him some sort of monk . . . ?)
Can you elaborate a little? I'm a comic freak, yet have never heard of 
Tromites.


http://members.shaw.ca/legion_roll_call/legionnaires/element_lad/



While sticking to Marvel/DC though, I can say that the Hulk is viewed as 
being possibly the most powerful being. It is conjectured that he has no 
limitations, and can quite simply grow ever more powerful.


I (and others) would argue that, depending on the circumstances, most 
powerful does not necessarily mean able to exert the greatest number of 
newtons of force of raw strength.  (Although apparently that seems to be 
an interpretation of the question which started this thread.)  And though 
holding up a mountain range (in one of the issues of _Secret Wars_) does 
indeed require a lot of raw strength, on at least one occasion (Superboy 
Vol. 1 #58 (July 1957): The 100 New Feats of Superboy ¹) the Silver Age 
Superboy moved the entire Earth a small distance (then moved it back) and 
the pre-reboot Mon-El has moved a (smaller?) body a greater distance in 
order to hide it from space pirates of some sort inside a dark nebula (an 
issue of LSH sometime in the mid-80s, IIRC).

_
¹Certainly someone can tell me (without looking it up) why moving the Earth 
was feat #99 of the titular 100 feats, and what feat #100 was . . .

-- Ronn!  :)

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Lesh

2003-12-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:27 AM 12/13/03, Trent Shipley wrote:
On Saturday 2003-12-13 05:36, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
 Trent Shipley wrote:
  Lesh ab-Tothtoon ab-Rosh ab-Kosh ab-Erbl
   ul-Zhuup ul-Vijls ul-Lith ul-Heebi

 Erbl? Erbl uplifted them?
I picked Erbl because I thought it was an unused nonsense word.  Has it 
been
used already for something else in the Uplift Universe?


You've never heard of their famous agricultural export, Erbl tea?

-- Ronn!  :)

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/13/2003 9:54:35 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  While sticking to Marvel/DC though, I can say that the Hulk is viewed as 
  being possibly the most powerful being. It is conjectured that he has no 
  limitations, and can quite simply grow ever more powerful.
  

Superman/Spiderman crossover? Bah, humbug.

I want a Hulk/Tick matchup. 

Unlimited power versus infinitely thick skull.

The fight itself wouldn't be as interesting as the collateral damage.

Vilyehm spoon Teighlore
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:05 PM 12/13/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/13/2003 9:54:35 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  While sticking to Marvel/DC though, I can say that the Hulk is viewed as
  being possibly the most powerful being. It is conjectured that he has no
  limitations, and can quite simply grow ever more powerful.



Just to be picky, that ¶ was part of Travis's post to which I was responding.



Superman/Spiderman crossover? Bah, humbug.

I want a Hulk/Tick matchup.

Unlimited power versus infinitely thick skull.

The fight itself wouldn't be as interesting as the collateral damage.

Vilyehm spoon Teighlore


Tick?  Hulk smash!

SPLURT!!

O-positive everywhere . . .



-- Ronn!  :)

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.

2003-12-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/13/2003 10:53:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  Just to be picky, that ¶ was part of Travis's post to which I was 
responding.
 
  

Just to be blunt, I haven't been reading all of the posts.

AOL automatically throws out that top line.
  
  
  Superman/Spiderman crossover? Bah, humbug.
  
  I want a Hulk/Tick matchup.
  
  Unlimited power versus infinitely thick skull.
  
  The fight itself wouldn't be as interesting as the collateral damage.
  
  Vilyehm spoon Teighlore
  
  
  
  Tick?  Hulk smash!
  
  
  SPLURT!!
  
  
  O-positive everywhere . . .
  

I thought the only superpower the Tick had was being invulnerable to 
absolutely everything. TNT, atomic bombs, and even Larry from the Animaniacs.

Hulk/Mask would be good, too.  The comic book--not the movie.

Vilyehm
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l