Re: Switching to CFMX

2002-09-30 Thread Sean A Corfield

I've been trying to resist responding to this thread but...

On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 14:44 US/Pacific, Rob Rohan wrote:
 cfswitch switch=attributes.fuseaction
   cfcase value=listall,showone,dosomething,doanotherthing 
 delimiters=,
   cfinclude template=index0.cfm
   /cfcase
   cfcase value=update,delete,dothis,dothat delimiters=,
   cfinclude template=index1.cfm
   /cfcase
   ...
 /cfswitch

Let me say, first of all, that I'm glad you've found a workaround.

Secondly, this is exactly the sort of issue that makes me very nervous 
of Fusebox. It tries hard to hide complexity from programmers but this 
shows just how much code it's really hiding and just how much machinery 
lurks behind the framework. Of course, this isn't really FB's fault: 
old-style CF just doesn't provide the expressive machinery to support 
the sort of near-OO encapsulation that FB attempts. I think that FB4 
has the potential to be much cleaner and idiomatic, based on the OO 
features that MX introduced to CF. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

 It adds a whole layer of abstraction, but seems to work. Again this 
 only
 happen when doing really large files and the (evil) errors MX gives 
 are the
 following

This is good to know for other Fuseboxers. Thanx for following up with 
a workaround without 'bashing' CF!

An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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Architecting a New Internet Experience
Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002

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Re: MX Eating my CFINCLUDES?

2002-09-30 Thread Sean A Corfield

I checked with the DW team and they referred me to this Tech Note:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/ts/documents/ 
translator_code.htm

Hope that helps?

On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 15:06 US/Pacific, Ian Lurie wrote:

 Sorry if this is a repeat post, but right now in Dreamweaver MX, if I  
 open a
 cfm file with CFINCLUDES in it, it replaces them with the actual code  
 and

 MM:BeginLock translatorClass=MM_SSI type=ssi orig=%3Ccfinclude
 template=%22../app_globals.cfm%22%3E fileRef=../app_globals.cfm
 depFiles=file:///WWWROOT/WKG/site/Website/app_globals.cfm

 And YES, I have rewrite code turned off for all .cfm files.

 HELP!

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Fusebox and CFMX was RE: Switching to CFMX

2002-09-30 Thread Mike Brunt

Sean, thanks for all your informative and very helpful posts.  I started
using CF in 1996 and Fusebox opened up all sorts of great things to pre CFMX
ColdFusion.  I know there are many luminaries who dislike Fusebox no doubt
for good reason within their own well-structured company's/worlds, people
for whom I have the utmost respect.  For our operation Fusebox made
ColdFusion very understandable fairly quickly for those whom had not used CF
previously.  It also added a level of legitimacy to ColdFusion in many
hallowed halls (not that CF needed legitimacy but perception is powerful).
Like you I look forward to Fuseboxes  next iteration with great
anticipation, I know the great minds behind Fusebox are carving out even
greater things thanks to CFMX.  Things just keep getting more exciting and
bountiful.

Mike Brunt - CTO
Webapper Services LLC
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255

Making the NET Work

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Switching to CFMX


I've been trying to resist responding to this thread but...

On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 14:44 US/Pacific, Rob Rohan wrote:
 cfswitch switch=attributes.fuseaction
   cfcase value=listall,showone,dosomething,doanotherthing
 delimiters=,
   cfinclude template=index0.cfm
   /cfcase
   cfcase value=update,delete,dothis,dothat delimiters=,
   cfinclude template=index1.cfm
   /cfcase
   ...
 /cfswitch

Let me say, first of all, that I'm glad you've found a workaround.

Secondly, this is exactly the sort of issue that makes me very nervous
of Fusebox. It tries hard to hide complexity from programmers but this
shows just how much code it's really hiding and just how much machinery
lurks behind the framework. Of course, this isn't really FB's fault:
old-style CF just doesn't provide the expressive machinery to support
the sort of near-OO encapsulation that FB attempts. I think that FB4
has the potential to be much cleaner and idiomatic, based on the OO
features that MX introduced to CF. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

 It adds a whole layer of abstraction, but seems to work. Again this
 only
 happen when doing really large files and the (evil) errors MX gives
 are the
 following

This is good to know for other Fuseboxers. Thanx for following up with
a workaround without 'bashing' CF!

An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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Architecting a New Internet Experience
Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002


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RE: Fusebox and CFMX was RE: Switching to CFMX

2002-09-30 Thread Rob Rohan

I hope I did not give the impression that I dislike fusebox - because I like
fusebox. I am by default a Java programmer, and fusebox added a tasty OO
flavor to CF. It does appear the MX will now natively do most of what
fusebox set out to do - which is the main reason for our switch.

In conclusion,

Fusebox = good
Java 64k method limit = bad

(JSP and Cocoon suffer from this as well)

:)
Rob


-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Fusebox and CFMX was RE: Switching to CFMX


Sean, thanks for all your informative and very helpful posts.  I started
using CF in 1996 and Fusebox opened up all sorts of great things to pre CFMX
ColdFusion.  I know there are many luminaries who dislike Fusebox no doubt
for good reason within their own well-structured company's/worlds, people
for whom I have the utmost respect.  For our operation Fusebox made
ColdFusion very understandable fairly quickly for those whom had not used CF
previously.  It also added a level of legitimacy to ColdFusion in many
hallowed halls (not that CF needed legitimacy but perception is powerful).
Like you I look forward to Fuseboxes  next iteration with great
anticipation, I know the great minds behind Fusebox are carving out even
greater things thanks to CFMX.  Things just keep getting more exciting and
bountiful.

Mike Brunt - CTO
Webapper Services LLC
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255

Making the NET Work

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Switching to CFMX


I've been trying to resist responding to this thread but...

On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 14:44 US/Pacific, Rob Rohan wrote:
 cfswitch switch=attributes.fuseaction
   cfcase value=listall,showone,dosomething,doanotherthing
 delimiters=,
   cfinclude template=index0.cfm
   /cfcase
   cfcase value=update,delete,dothis,dothat delimiters=,
   cfinclude template=index1.cfm
   /cfcase
   ...
 /cfswitch

Let me say, first of all, that I'm glad you've found a workaround.

Secondly, this is exactly the sort of issue that makes me very nervous
of Fusebox. It tries hard to hide complexity from programmers but this
shows just how much code it's really hiding and just how much machinery
lurks behind the framework. Of course, this isn't really FB's fault:
old-style CF just doesn't provide the expressive machinery to support
the sort of near-OO encapsulation that FB attempts. I think that FB4
has the potential to be much cleaner and idiomatic, based on the OO
features that MX introduced to CF. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

 It adds a whole layer of abstraction, but seems to work. Again this
 only
 happen when doing really large files and the (evil) errors MX gives
 are the
 following

This is good to know for other Fuseboxers. Thanx for following up with
a workaround without 'bashing' CF!

An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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Architecting a New Internet Experience
Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002



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CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread CF-DEV

I have CF MX installed and SQL 7.

I created the database along with in the 
Control Panel, I created the ODBC connection
to the DB with a DSN name of: myDB

Now in CF it will not connect.
I have SQL 7 set to TCP/IP in the Client Network
Utility.

I have no PWD associated since this is used
as my DEV box. 

Any ideas?


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RE: Reverse PDF tools

2002-09-30 Thread Whiterod, David (PLNSA)

Mark,

Try http://www.pdftoall.com/

pdf to text, html,csv, bmp, jpg, png, converter

I have not used this s/w but they do have a COM component that may allow
automation.

cheers

David

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 12:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Reverse PDF tools


Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats and automate the process
of converting them into PDF format.  Does anyone know of a tool that can do
the reverse?  I need to unpack a PDF page into source images and text.
Anyone?

-mk



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Re: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread Brook

What type of drivers are you using? The ODBC Socket Connection should work. 
If you want to use the Sql Server Driver, you need to have mixed mode 
authentication on your SQL Server. You need to setup a sql server login, 
with a username an password. Then use this username and password to connect 
to the datasource via CFMX.

In earlier version you could use window authentication with the sql server 
driver, but not in MX. And you should try to avoid the ODBC Socket 
Connection. I have both those services stopped..

Brook

At 08:24 PM 30/09/02 -0400, you wrote:
I have CF MX installed and SQL 7.

I created the database along with in the
Control Panel, I created the ODBC connection
to the DB with a DSN name of: myDB

Now in CF it will not connect.
I have SQL 7 set to TCP/IP in the Client Network
Utility.

I have no PWD associated since this is used
as my DEV box.

Any ideas?



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RE: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread CF-DEV

I am using the local dbo account of sa
no password.

It will not authenicate in CF MX Admin.
The drivers are those in CF MX.



-Original Message-
From: Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX / MSSQL


What type of drivers are you using? The ODBC Socket Connection should work.
If you want to use the Sql Server Driver, you need to have mixed mode
authentication on your SQL Server. You need to setup a sql server login,
with a username an password. Then use this username and password to connect
to the datasource via CFMX.

In earlier version you could use window authentication with the sql server
driver, but not in MX. And you should try to avoid the ODBC Socket
Connection. I have both those services stopped..

Brook

At 08:24 PM 30/09/02 -0400, you wrote:
I have CF MX installed and SQL 7.

I created the database along with in the
Control Panel, I created the ODBC connection
to the DB with a DSN name of: myDB

Now in CF it will not connect.
I have SQL 7 set to TCP/IP in the Client Network
Utility.

I have no PWD associated since this is used
as my DEV box.

Any ideas?




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Re: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 05:24 PM, CF-DEV wrote:

 I have CF MX installed and SQL 7.

 I created the database along with in the
 Control Panel, I created the ODBC connection
 to the DB with a DSN name of: myDB

 Now in CF it will not connect.
 I have SQL 7 set to TCP/IP in the Client Network
 Utility.

 I have no PWD associated since this is used
 as my DEV box.

 Any ideas?


Why use ODBC - CFMX has a built-in JDBC driver that works just fine.

Below are 3 different ways that work on CFMX OS X (Linux).

HTH

Dick


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RE: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread CF-DEV

This is the error:

Connection verification failed for data source: Mindkeeper_SQL
[]java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting
to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other
connectivity info.
The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in
JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, password,
URL, and other connectivity info.

-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX / MSSQL


On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 05:24 PM, CF-DEV wrote:

 I have CF MX installed and SQL 7.

 I created the database along with in the
 Control Panel, I created the ODBC connection
 to the DB with a DSN name of: myDB

 Now in CF it will not connect.
 I have SQL 7 set to TCP/IP in the Client Network
 Utility.

 I have no PWD associated since this is used
 as my DEV box.

 Any ideas?


Why use ODBC - CFMX has a built-in JDBC driver that works just fine.

Below are 3 different ways that work on CFMX OS X (Linux).

HTH

Dick



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Query of Queries Error

2002-09-30 Thread Sam Farmer

Hi,

I have a query of queries that has been working fine until today when I
started getting the following error:

Query Of Queries runtime error.
Unsupported Numeric type conversion in Query of Queries.

Thats the extent of the error message provided!  The columns seem to match
up exactly on database type and length.

Can anyone help provide some insight?

Thanks,

Sam




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RE: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread Brian Scandale

FYI there is a virus going around that targets MSSQL machines with account sa set with 
no password...

More Info here:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99499.htm

At 05:48 PM 9/30/02, you wrote:
I am using the local dbo account of sa
no password.

It will not authenicate in CF MX Admin.
The drivers are those in CF MX.


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Re: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 05:51 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:

 On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 05:24 PM, CF-DEV wrote:

 I have CF MX installed and SQL 7.

 I created the database along with in the
 Control Panel, I created the ODBC connection
 to the DB with a DSN name of: myDB

 Now in CF it will not connect.
 I have SQL 7 set to TCP/IP in the Client Network
 Utility.

 I have no PWD associated since this is used
 as my DEV box.

 Any ideas?


 Why use ODBC - CFMX has a built-in JDBC driver that works just fine.

 Below are 3 different ways that work on CFMX OS X (Linux).

 HTH

 Dick

 
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Re: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

That says the driver is specified OK  is loaded.

The problem is with the URL, UserID or Password.


You might want to download ViennaSQL (quick  easy) and play around 
with your connections with it -- it's easier than with CFMX  when you 
get it workin, you cancopy paste the results to CFMX Admin.

HTH

Dick

On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 05:56 PM, CF-DEV wrote:

 Connection verification failed for data source: Mindkeeper_SQL
 []java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while 
 attempting
 to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other
 connectivity info.
 The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred 
 in
 JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, 
 password,
 URL, and other connectivity info.


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Re: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

I am having trouble posting the setups below -- copy pasted



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Re: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

This is weird -- I'll try sending direct

Dick

On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 06:03 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:

 I am having trouble posting the setups below -- copy pasted



 
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RE: CFMX / MSSQL

2002-09-30 Thread CF-DEV

Don't I feel like a total A$$

In the HELP it stated to put LOCAL
within the parathesis.

Such as: (local)

Not True.. It is the standard: localhost

Thanks everyone!!


-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX / MSSQL


This is weird -- I'll try sending direct

Dick

On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 06:03 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:

 I am having trouble posting the setups below -- copy pasted





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RE: CFMX and CFFORM

2002-09-30 Thread Bud

On 9/30/02, Justin Hansen penned:
I got around this by adding a 'CFIDE' folder to my project/site 
folder. Then created virtual directories inside of that to the 
actual 'scripts'  'debug' directories. If you just add a virtual 
directory to the 'CFIDE' you are opening the CF Admin pages to your 
website.

It may not be pretty but CFForm works fine now.

That's a ridiculous way to have to do something.

If anyone from Macromedia is listening, not every CF website out 
there is running under the root domain. I'd venture to say a very 
small percentage are. Hope you fix this in the next service pack.

Thanks Justin.
-- 

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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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RE: Reverse PDF tools

2002-09-30 Thread Parker, Kevin

I remember having a look at this quite some time ago - go to Google and do a
search on pdftohtml (one word).


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-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 12:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Reverse PDF tools


Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats and automate the process
of converting them into PDF format.  Does anyone know of a tool that can do
the reverse?  I need to unpack a PDF page into source images and text.
Anyone?

-mk



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Using Java nulls in CF?

2002-09-30 Thread jon hall

  Is it possible to to a Java null in CF? Searching the archives I saw
  it mentioned that it's a huge pain in the ass...I guess that means
  it's not impossible :)


-- 
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  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Question regarding the archives...

2002-09-30 Thread Judith Dinowitz

Please do!

Judith
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Re: Using Java nulls in CF?

2002-09-30 Thread Sean A Corfield

On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 19:20 US/Pacific, jon hall wrote:
   Is it possible to to a Java null in CF? Searching the archives I saw
   it mentioned that it's a huge pain in the ass...I guess that means
   it's not impossible :)

It is possible to create a Java null in a CF variable (with some 
chicanery) but CF then prevents you from using said variable in any 
useful manner...

The problem is that if you have:

cfset v = _some_expression_that_renders_Java_null_

whenever you try to use 'v', CF will helpfully tell you that no such 
variable is defined! :(

If you do this:

cfset x.v = _some_null_expression_

then you'll find that structKeyExists(x,v) is true (as expected) but 
isDefined(x.v) is false and, indeed, if you try to use x.v CF will 
again tell you it is undefined and / or raise a null pointer exception 
(because it tries, unsuccessfully, to map the variable's (null) value 
to a valid CF type in order to do something with it!).

I spent several hours trying to persuade CF to do something useful with 
a null variable and finally gave up. If anyone else is successful, I'd 
love to see the code!

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Re: encode an image into a .cfm inline

2002-09-30 Thread Samuel R. Neff

Mark,

As a previous poster said, you can send a Multipart-MIME message that
includes the HTML page and the image, in Base64 encoding.  I don't know if
this works with all browsers, but I'm pretty sure it works with IE.  I've
used it for sending Web Archives (MS term for Multipart-MIME) documents to
MS Word.

I have a presentation on MS Word which includes a good amount of info on
generating Multipart-MIME messages, including over 2,000 lines of example
code and a generic Multipart-MIME CFC for constructing the messages.  It's
CFMX, but can be easily adopted to CF5 as custom tags.  If you're
interested, send me a private e-mail (and anyone else that's interested, do
the same).  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Sam


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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:49:52 -0500
From: Mark W. Breneman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: encode an image into a .cfm inline
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does anyone have any ideas on if it is possible to encode an image into a
cfm?  My guess it that it is impossible... but, thought I would ask.

(snip)

Mark W. Breneman

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Re: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)

2002-09-30 Thread Rob Brooks-Bilson


Sorry, jumping in late here...

I did some performance testing recently too see if it was faster to
CFINCLUDE a UDF library containing 50 UDFs, or instantiate a CFC with the
same 50 CFCs as methods.  The results were that the CFINCLUDE was
substantially faster on initial page load and all subsequent page loads.
As a side note, I tested CFML tag based UDFs vs. CFSCRIPT based UDFs too,
and the CFSCRIPT UDFs executed slightly faster than their tag based
cousins.

-Rob


Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:26:29 +0200
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I agree with you Raymond.
But it is true that is more personal preference/coding style terms than
performance/architecture terms.

This are my personal rules :
CUSTOM TAGS (ColdFusion Taglibs)
- custom tags encapsulates presentation logic they always output content
(usually HTML),
- custom tags usually do not call the model or controller layer,
- custom tags are only used by the presentation layer (page or pagelet
scripts).
 They are used for presentation logic encapsulation.

USER DEFINED FUNCTIONS (UDF)
- user defined functions encapsulate generic logic and rarely output
content
(except for string formatting purposes),
- user defined functions do not call the model or controller layer,
- user defined functions are used in any layer (view, controller or model).
 They are used generic logic/function encapsulation.

COLDFUSION COMPONENTS (CFC)
- components encapsulate business/data access application logic and never
output content,
- components are called by the view layer only to read data,
- components are called by the controller layer to create/update/delete
data.
 They are used for business logic encapsulation.

.. I've put some examples here
http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/patterns/part3.htm

Benoit Hediard
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RE: Reverse PDF tools

2002-09-30 Thread Eric Dawson

Acrobat 5 has a Save as RTF feature.

I have been told the OCR in acrobat is really good. So it could be a very 
useful feature.

You may want to check out acrobuddies.com or planetpdf.com or other PDF 
related sites for some tricks and techniques, there may also be some export 
plugins as well.

HTH
e

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From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Reverse PDF tools

Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats and automate the process
of converting them into PDF format.  Does anyone know of a tool that can do
the reverse?  I need to unpack a PDF page into source images and text.
Anyone?

-mk


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Re: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)

2002-09-30 Thread Sean A Corfield

On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 20:09 US/Pacific, Rob Brooks-Bilson wrote:
 I did some performance testing recently too see if it was faster to
 CFINCLUDE a UDF library containing 50 UDFs, or instantiate a CFC with 
 the
 same 50 CFCs as methods.  The results were that the CFINCLUDE was
 substantially faster on initial page load and all subsequent page 
 loads.

That's good to know - it fits in with my expectations and is exactly 
why, if you must do this kind of stuff, I would recommend creating just 
a single CFC instance and saving it in server scope (since a 'UDF 
library CFC' will have no state and probably shouldn't be generating 
any output!).

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Re: OT: ASP help

2002-09-30 Thread Samuel R. Neff

Set up a CF server and then use CFHTTP to download the content from the ASP
server and then CFFILE to save it to disk.  Can even use free CF Developer
edition for this.  ASP equivalent would be using WinHttp.WinHttpRequest and
Scripting.FileSystemObject.

Also remember you have to fix your links.  Everything will point to .asp
pages and you need to change them to .html.  Pages with URL parameters will
take a little more creativity.

Now, get off our list!  :D

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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:24:24 -0400
From: Kris Pilles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: ASP help
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyone know how to generate an HTML file from ASP then save it to
diskbasically doing content management with ASP but website lives on
a Unix box

Flame me if you will but I need an answer and the people on the ASP
boards aren't as smart as you guys are

Thanks for your help...

Kris Pilles

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RE: Switching to CFMX

2002-09-30 Thread Nat Papovich

Unfortunately though, Rob's really long index doesn't appear to use Fusebox
3's core file, which I assume, is the complex machinery you mention,
Sean. In pre-FB3, there is very little to no machinery used, so long
cfswitch statements are the result of the poor design of whoever wrote
unfortunate Rob's code, not some implied Fusebox architectural path. But
that's not to say there aren't certain aspects of FB3's machinery that I'm
looking forward to optimizing towards OO/CFCs/Java :)

I have encountered this same limitation in CFMX/Java in a really long custom
tag written by (surprise) someone else. Sean, do you know if this (64k)
limitation is something that can be addressed by Macromedia? Or is it
inherent to Java? Or... ?

NAT

 -Original Message-
 From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:07 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Switching to CFMX


 I've been trying to resist responding to this thread but...

 On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 14:44 US/Pacific, Rob Rohan wrote:
  cfswitch switch=attributes.fuseaction
  cfcase value=listall,showone,dosomething,doanotherthing
  delimiters=,
  cfinclude template=index0.cfm
  /cfcase
  cfcase value=update,delete,dothis,dothat delimiters=,
  cfinclude template=index1.cfm
  /cfcase
  ...
  /cfswitch

 Let me say, first of all, that I'm glad you've found a workaround.

 Secondly, this is exactly the sort of issue that makes me very nervous
 of Fusebox. It tries hard to hide complexity from programmers but this
 shows just how much code it's really hiding and just how much machinery
 lurks behind the framework. Of course, this isn't really FB's fault:
 old-style CF just doesn't provide the expressive machinery to support
 the sort of near-OO encapsulation that FB attempts. I think that FB4
 has the potential to be much cleaner and idiomatic, based on the OO
 features that MX introduced to CF. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

  It adds a whole layer of abstraction, but seems to work. Again this
  only
  happen when doing really large files and the (evil) errors MX gives
  are the
  following

 This is good to know for other Fuseboxers. Thanx for following up with
 a workaround without 'bashing' CF!


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Re: Using Java nulls in CF?

2002-09-30 Thread jon hall

Actually I didn't even think of using isDefined(), and I think
you answered my question without knowing it :).

All I really wanted to do was use java's readLine() method, but
readLine returns a null when the last line has been read. So I stuck
isDefined() in there an voila! It worked.

cfscript
fr = createObject(java, java.io.FileReader);
br = createObject(java, java.io.BufferedReader);
fr.init(filename);
br.init(fr);

line = br.readLine();
while (isDefined(line)) {
writeOutput(line  'br');
line = br.readLine();
}

fr.close();
br.close();
/cfscript


Now I'm going to see if this is any faster than looping over line
breaks in a string. I hope so after all I tried to get this to work :)

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, September 30, 2002, 11:04:32 PM, you wrote:
SAC On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 19:20 US/Pacific, jon hall wrote:
   Is it possible to to a Java null in CF? Searching the archives I saw
   it mentioned that it's a huge pain in the ass...I guess that means
   it's not impossible :)

SAC It is possible to create a Java null in a CF variable (with some 
SAC chicanery) but CF then prevents you from using said variable in any 
SAC useful manner...

SAC The problem is that if you have:

SAC cfset v = _some_expression_that_renders_Java_null_

SAC whenever you try to use 'v', CF will helpfully tell you that no such 
SAC variable is defined! :(

SAC If you do this:

SAC cfset x.v = _some_null_expression_

SAC then you'll find that structKeyExists(x,v) is true (as expected) but 
SAC isDefined(x.v) is false and, indeed, if you try to use x.v CF will 
SAC again tell you it is undefined and / or raise a null pointer exception 
SAC (because it tries, unsuccessfully, to map the variable's (null) value 
SAC to a valid CF type in order to do something with it!).

SAC I spent several hours trying to persuade CF to do something useful with 
SAC a null variable and finally gave up. If anyone else is successful, I'd 
SAC love to see the code!

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SQL Text question from a beginner

2002-09-30 Thread John Munyan

I am new to web development (if I can call what I am doing web
development) and have a sql question and was hoping someone could point
me in the right direction.  I have put together this data driven website
and found access to be insufficient to hold as much text as I wished in
a description field.  Thus I moved to sql, but am finding the 4000
character limitation for varchar to be a hindrance and not much better
than the 255 character limit in access.  I found a link a couple minutes
ago basically stating I was pretty much limited to 8000 characters no
matter the data type I pick save for some concatenation maneuver.  So I
am wondering how I can just put a blob of text into the database.  I
can't be the only guy who wants to store a couple pages of text in a
field in a database so that it can be queried to populate a web page can
I?   On it's face it would seem that if I should be able to define my
own data type to accommodate my needs?  What is the right direction?  

 

Thanks,

 

John

 


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RE: SQL Text question from a beginner

2002-09-30 Thread Tony Weeg

look at the datatype of text it holds 16 bytes of data, i believe.

hth

tony

-Original Message-
From: John Munyan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL Text question from a beginner


I am new to web development (if I can call what I am doing web
development) and have a sql question and was hoping someone could point
me in the right direction.  I have put together this data driven website
and found access to be insufficient to hold as much text as I wished in
a description field.  Thus I moved to sql, but am finding the 4000
character limitation for varchar to be a hindrance and not much better
than the 255 character limit in access.  I found a link a couple minutes
ago basically stating I was pretty much limited to 8000 characters no
matter the data type I pick save for some concatenation maneuver.  So I
am wondering how I can just put a blob of text into the database.  I
can't be the only guy who wants to store a couple pages of text in a
field in a database so that it can be queried to populate a web page can
I?   On it's face it would seem that if I should be able to define my
own data type to accommodate my needs?  What is the right direction?  

 

Thanks,

 

John

 



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Re: Using Java nulls in CF?

2002-09-30 Thread jon hall

For anyone wondering...with smaller files it really doesn't matter,
but with a 2.3MB IIS logfile, the Java ReadLine method is about 30-40
percent faster than the old standby looping over the file as a string
using chr(10) as a delimiter.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, September 30, 2002, 11:43:44 PM, you wrote:
jh Actually I didn't even think of using isDefined(), and I think
jh you answered my question without knowing it :).

jh All I really wanted to do was use java's readLine() method, but
jh readLine returns a null when the last line has been read. So I stuck
jh isDefined() in there an voila! It worked.

jh cfscript
jh fr = createObject(java, java.io.FileReader);
jh br = createObject(java, java.io.BufferedReader);
jh fr.init(filename);
jh br.init(fr);

jh line = br.readLine();
jh while (isDefined(line)) {
jh writeOutput(line  'br');
jh line = br.readLine();
jh }

jh fr.close();
jh br.close();
jh /cfscript


jh Now I'm going to see if this is any faster than looping over line
jh breaks in a string. I hope so after all I tried to get this to work :)

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Help please!! - Adding Email Alert functionality to a site

2002-09-30 Thread John Innit

We've been asked to add email alert functionality to a clients web site.

The client is a recruitment company and wants to maintain a list of 
prospective candidates that can be automatically alerted  when the company 
has new job openings. The clients wants to be able to manually add / remove 
names to the email list and to enable new job seekers to add themselves or 
modify their settings through their web site.

The settings will be quite simple, a new job seeker can specify to receive 
alerts for

1) Software development jobs
2) Management jobs
3) all jobs

When the recruitment company has a new job requirement they will type it 
up, assign it to a category, and then have an option to send it out to all 
the prospective job seekers who have requested for alerts in that category. 
Before the emails are sent out the company wants a list of all the 
recipients so that they can manually delete or add people from the list 
before the mailing is kicked off.

I realize this is a simple project and there are numerous ways to get this 
done. What I'm looking are suggestions on how to get this done very quickly 
( 2 week time line)  I also want to know if there is an existing product we 
can buy which with some customization can achieve this for us. Would love 
to receive recommendations, suggestions or even proposals if you have a 
fast solution.

Thanks.


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RE: Help please!! - Adding Email Alert functionality to a site

2002-09-30 Thread Parker, Kevin

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-Original Message-
From: John Innit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help please!! - Adding Email Alert functionality to a site


We've been asked to add email alert functionality to a clients web site.

The client is a recruitment company and wants to maintain a list of 
prospective candidates that can be automatically alerted  when the company 
has new job openings. The clients wants to be able to manually add / remove 
names to the email list and to enable new job seekers to add themselves or 
modify their settings through their web site.

The settings will be quite simple, a new job seeker can specify to receive 
alerts for

1) Software development jobs
2) Management jobs
3) all jobs

When the recruitment company has a new job requirement they will type it 
up, assign it to a category, and then have an option to send it out to all 
the prospective job seekers who have requested for alerts in that category. 
Before the emails are sent out the company wants a list of all the 
recipients so that they can manually delete or add people from the list 
before the mailing is kicked off.

I realize this is a simple project and there are numerous ways to get this 
done. What I'm looking are suggestions on how to get this done very quickly 
( 2 week time line)  I also want to know if there is an existing product we 
can buy which with some customization can achieve this for us. Would love 
to receive recommendations, suggestions or even proposals if you have a 
fast solution.

Thanks.



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CF Mail Problem..

2002-09-30 Thread Srimanta

Hello Forum,

Need Help.

I am trying to send data generated by a query using CFMAIL tag to a
recepient whose email is obtained from a Form.
However Instead of including and sending only one email containing  all  the
rows returned by the query to the email address obtained from the Form in
the previous page CFMAIL is sending multiple emails to the same email
address
--one email for each record generate from the query. Thus each email
contains only one seperate record.
I cant understand why?
The recepient email address comes from the Form. The contents of the email
is generated by the db query.
Any help will be much appreciated.

This is my code:

CFQUERY name= Get_Products  DataSource=XYZ
Select * FROM Products WHERE product id=#Form.productid#
/CFQUERY

cfmail query=Get_Products
to=#Form.Email_Address#
from=myemail.com
subject=Product

  type=HTML

!--- The variables #productid# and #Email_Address# come from the Previous
Page (Form.cfm).

 Table
 TR
 TD Productid: Get_Products.productid BR  /TD
  TDDetails: Get_Products.details BR  /TD
  TDModel : Get_Products.modelno BR  /TD
/TR
/Table
 /cfmail

The purpose is to send more details about the product selected by the user
in the Form.cfm Page.
Thanks

Srimanta
- Original Message -
From: jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Using Java nulls in CF?


 For anyone wondering...with smaller files it really doesn't matter,
 but with a 2.3MB IIS logfile, the Java ReadLine method is about 30-40
 percent faster than the old standby looping over the file as a string
 using chr(10) as a delimiter.

 --
  jon
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Monday, September 30, 2002, 11:43:44 PM, you wrote:
 jh Actually I didn't even think of using isDefined(), and I think
 jh you answered my question without knowing it :).

 jh All I really wanted to do was use java's readLine() method, but
 jh readLine returns a null when the last line has been read. So I stuck
 jh isDefined() in there an voila! It worked.

 jh cfscript
 jh fr = createObject(java, java.io.FileReader);
 jh br = createObject(java, java.io.BufferedReader);
 jh fr.init(filename);
 jh br.init(fr);

 jh line = br.readLine();
 jh while (isDefined(line)) {
 jh writeOutput(line  'br');
 jh line = br.readLine();
 jh }

 jh fr.close();
 jh br.close();
 jh /cfscript


 jh Now I'm going to see if this is any faster than looping over line
 jh breaks in a string. I hope so after all I tried to get this to work :)

 
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Re: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)

2002-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

 On Monday, Sep 30, 2002, at 09:23 US/Pacific, S. Isaac
 Dealey wrote:
 Question: (dunno if anyone has the answer to this) Do
 CFC's share
 methods in
 memory, or does each new component created have its own
 instances of
 all the
 functions defined in the cfc which take up their own
 space in memory?
 The
 one way saves memory, the other way theoretically might
 allow you to
 modify
 a method of one component on the fly without altering the
 definition
 of the
 CFC.

 Each instance has a public data member which is the
 'pointer' to the
 function but the actual function code is shared between
 all instances.
 What that means is if you have a CFC with 20 public
 methods, then each
 instance will contain 20 'pointers' to that code.

Awesome... Much more efficient this way. :) And the functionality which is
potentially lost is something that would see very little use anyhow -- ( and
I think liable to be problematic and cause confusion, so probably best
avoided anyway ) ... but I was curious about the way it was implemented.
This was what I suspected... my Tapestry cms currently works on a very
similar model in CF 5 using libraries of custom tags as the methods, and
structure elements as pointers where the key is the name of the method and
the value being a relative path to the custom tag, which allows the methods
to be inherited from parent classes. Good to know there's a parallel there,
even if it's not necessarily practical knowledge. :)

Isaac
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

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RE: SQL Text question from a beginner

2002-09-30 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum

A whopping 16 characters? 8^)

Actually, according to my SQL Server reference, the TEXT datatype can store
2,147,483,647 bytes.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SQL Text question from a beginner


 look at the datatype of text it holds 16 bytes of data, i believe.

 hth

 tony

 -Original Message-
 From: John Munyan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL Text question from a beginner


 I am new to web development (if I can call what I am doing web
 development) and have a sql question and was hoping someone could point
 me in the right direction.  I have put together this data driven website
 and found access to be insufficient to hold as much text as I wished in
 a description field.  Thus I moved to sql, but am finding the 4000
 character limitation for varchar to be a hindrance and not much better
 than the 255 character limit in access.  I found a link a couple minutes
 ago basically stating I was pretty much limited to 8000 characters no
 matter the data type I pick save for some concatenation maneuver.  So I
 am wondering how I can just put a blob of text into the database.  I
 can't be the only guy who wants to store a couple pages of text in a
 field in a database so that it can be queried to populate a web page can
 I?   On it's face it would seem that if I should be able to define my
 own data type to accommodate my needs?  What is the right direction?



 Thanks,



 John





 
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