RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers

[Joe Eugene]

> > believe a third-party JDBC driver would be managed just like one of the
> drivers included with CFMX,
> is true.

Have you done any tests on how the driver connection pooling works with
native JDBC type IV other connections?

Yea.. i have configured Oracle 8.0.5 and AS400 DB2 V5R1 Native Drivers
and they are working... but am clueless.. on the how this works...
without seeing some documentation of CFQUERY implementation.

It works... How is the QUESTION?

Thanks
Joe


> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:18 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers
>
>
> We recently moved from SQL7.0 with the included MX
> (DataDirect/Merant) JDBC
> drivers, to SQL2000 with MS provided JDBC drivers and it was (aside from
> microsofts non-standard jdbc uri) simple. In other words
>
> > believe a third-party JDBC driver would be managed just like one of the
> drivers included with CFMX,
>
> is true.
>
> Rob
>
> http://treebeard.sourceforge.net
> http://ruinworld.sourceforge.net
> Scientia Est Potentia
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Costa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers
>
>
> Better late than never ;-)
>
> All the drivers are from DataDirect/Merant except for the mySQL driver.
>
> I believe a third-party JDBC driver would be managed just like one of the
> drivers included with CFMX, but I have to verify that.
>
> Phil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:01 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers
>
>
> >Anybody from MM Product Team can explain this? on November 24, 2002
> >5:24 PM
>
> Product Teams reply 2 weeks later on the Thread!. Talked to Sean
> and figured
> out this already. Anyways since you mentioned it, Are all CFMX Native
> Drivers "DataDirect" Drivers(Oracle,DB2 UDB). If you configure a Type IV
> Native Datasource in CMFX... Does CFMX manage connection pooling? Single
> Connection.. Multiple Statements? How does this work?
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Costa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:49 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers
>
>
> It's throwing that error because you're trying to access the JDBC
> drivers in
> an unlicensed fashion. The DataDirect drivers are licensed for use with
> ColdFusion, which includes support for JSP as well as CFML, not
> the scenario
> you're describing.
>
> Phil Costa
> Sr. Product Manager, ColdFusion
> Macromedia
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers
>
>
> I got this partially resolved... Sean helped out.. Thanks Sean. It was a
> classpath problem. However after i load the
> drivers(macromedia.jdbc.MacromediaDriver) which is in the "lib"
> directory of
> your installation(eg. "G:\CFusionMX\lib\macromedia_drivers.jar")
> and give it
> the connection url.. Connection con =
> DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:macromedia:sqlserver://SqlServer
> Name:1433"
> ,"userid","Pwd");
>
> I get an Exception..
> "macromedia.jdbc.MacromediaDriver$InvalidLicenseException: An Enterprise
> license is needed to use the Macromedia JDBC Drivers on the DB2, Oracle,
> Sybase and Info rmix servers."
>
> I am running CFMX Enterprise version(6,0,0,48097).  I have the same
> connection working fine in JSP Pages under CFMX. Are CFMX
> Enterprise drivers
> protected from usage in Java Applications(Console/Swing)? Anybody from MM
> Product Team can explain this?
>
> Joe
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:11 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Java in CF (CFMX) - MM Drivers
> >
> >
> > I can use the CFMX MM DB drivers in a JSP page..No problem. however..
> > i need to use it in a Java Application..tried to load the Driver..
> > Class.forName("macromedia.jdbc.MacromediaDriver")
> > Keep getting ClassNotFound Error..
> > I put the macromedia_driver.jar in the class path.. still not
> > loading.. Do i need to import something? What am i missing?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > PS:Old Thread.
> > I am just catching up on this Thread..
> > Isnt the idea to comply with J2EE Architecture? Model-View-Controller
> > model etc.. Why would some want to write in-line Java..? Anyways...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:09:16 -0500 Phil Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The decision to disallow inline java code was
> > > definitely not a cut and dry one. One reason
> > > was definitely to enforce a cleaner separation
> > > of syntax; the other, which I hadn't mentioned,
> > > was to remove some additional complexity from
> > > the parsing/compiling process. Because of the
> > > differences between typ

Character Encoding Problem in CFMX

[Farkhad Mousaev]

Hi everyone,
I'm just curious to know if anybody experiencing character encoding problems with 
CFMX? 
Reagrds
FM

RE: PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and other weird errors

[Douglas.Knudsen]

yup, seen that.  pcode errors, from what I've experienced and from research, are 
related to one of the most popular topics on these lists, locking and shared scopes.  
We put an app in production, after a month or so when it got popular and the usage 
climed, we saw these pcode errors often.  We made sure every access to session.foo was 
locked and still got them under load, but much less often.  Once we changed over to 
the 'copy session scope to the request scope' methodology, all the pcode errors went 
bye bye. 


These makes me wonder...it seems an app can be written in such a way as to 'over use' 
locking/session scope.


Doug

>-Original Message-
>From: Andres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:31 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and other
>weird errors
>
>
>Hello All,
>I have recently (last 36 or so hours) have began experiencing 
>server timeouts, hangs, and have needed to restart CF and IIS 
>in all my servers.
>
>Among the many errors i get in the application.log file are 
>things such as 
>PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and 
>CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode122333444
>45654321
>
>I started a support event with MM. Their engineer tells me it 
>is an issue with shared variable locking. I have began looking 
>closely at my code and have found some potential locking 
>issues. But the fact is that my code HAS NOT CHANGED since we 
>went 5.0 over 5 months ago. No other major changes have taken place.
>
>I am starting to make sure all my app, session, and server 
>vars are properly locked, but we host two huge apps (over 1500 
>templates each) so it will take time to go through them.
>
>My question is.. has anyone ever experienced their CF server 
>suddenly require such drastic use of cflocking?
>
>Any suggestions or ideas will be much appreciated!
>
>Thanks
>
>Andres
>
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RE: Macromedia Contribute

[Matt Brown]

At 03:27 PM 12/9/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Another point in all of this, there is a lot more to a large web application
>than just the code.  Networks, Routers, Firewalls, DB Servers, Environments,
>OS's etc etc.  We offer very broad-based business solutions that cover all
>aspects of making web-based applications work and in that way have been able
>to remain effective as tools and methods evolve.

Exactly. Contribute is a great product for a huge number of people that are 
not really your clients. There is some overlap perhaps, but if you have a 
full CMS app built, then you are in a whole different league than CT would 
cover.

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Re: String trimming questions

[Charlie Griefer]

- Original Message -
From: "Mitko Gerensky-Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:17 PM
Subject: String trimming questions


> Hello,
>
> I have a string like this:
>
> 6BPH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Albuquerque;
>
> How can I trim the string so that it results into three separate
strings --
> each of the pieces separated by a comma? The semicolon is the delimiter
for
> the list in which the cited string is only one element.

Why not just loop over the list?




 #i#



charlie

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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

> I've already explained this - in regards to using the result in Flash
or
> a WS, you would need to use cfreturn, not cfoutput, in the method. Of
> course I'm not talking about a method w/ absolutely no limits.
> 
I understand how to get the HTML to Flash. What I don't understand is
why you think this is useful. Views should either be created in HTML or
Flash. Why on earth would you want to send HTML to Flash to be rendered
as a view?

-Matt

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RE: Bug fix - CF Sheduler for Australian installs (CFMX)

[Tilbrook, Peter]

Oh, don't forget to rename the "mispelt" shedultasks.cfm to sheduletasks.cfm
or it won't work (the slackers).

Cheers!

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From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 3:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Bug fix - CF Sheduler for Australian installs (CFMX)


Many Aussie developers may be aware of a bug in the ColdFusion Administrator
for the Sheduler feature of CFMX. Basically the Aussie Sheduling bug. I
believe it also affects time zones like our neighbours in New Zealand.
Basically the web based CF Admin interface doesn't allow you to schedule or
manage tasks. It reports errors like illegal time formats and such and fails
big time.

Daemon Internet (www.daemon.com.au) have developed a fix even BEFORE
Macromedia. It is NOT an official fix so you should backup the affected
templates (sheduleedit.cfm and sheduletasks.cfm in the
CFIDE\Administrator\scheduler\ folder.

The fix is available from
http://blog.daemon.com.au/archives/85.html#85

NB: One of the Daemon lads (the CEO I think) Geoff Bowers co-wrote the
ColdFusion Certified Developer Study Guide with Ben Forta et al.

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SOT: Bug fix - CF Sheduler for Australian installs (CFMX)

[Tilbrook, Peter]

Many Aussie developers may be aware of a bug in the ColdFusion Administrator
for the Sheduler feature of CFMX. Basically the Aussie Sheduling bug. I
believe it also affects time zones like our neighbours in New Zealand.
Basically the web based CF Admin interface doesn't allow you to schedule or
manage tasks. It reports errors like illegal time formats and such and fails
big time.

Daemon Internet (www.daemon.com.au) have developed a fix even BEFORE
Macromedia. It is NOT an official fix so you should backup the affected
templates (sheduleedit.cfm and sheduletasks.cfm in the
CFIDE\Administrator\scheduler\ folder.

The fix is available from
http://blog.daemon.com.au/archives/85.html#85

NB: One of the Daemon lads (the CEO I think) Geoff Bowers co-wrote the
ColdFusion Certified Developer Study Guide with Ben Forta et al.

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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

> > Use HTML in your CFC, go ahead. The point is to remember 
> that you are 
> > limiting the use of the method. Again, this isn't the end 
> of the world 
> > and certainly can be useful, I just want people to remember that.
> > 
> If I were to create a CFC for the sole purpose of outputting 
> HTML to a browser then I think the fact that it is limited to 
> just that is quite ok; desirable even.
> 
> For my own enlightenment, please explain how one would go 
> about creating a method that isn't limited.
> 

I've already explained this - in regards to using the result in Flash or
a WS, you would need to use cfreturn, not cfoutput, in the method. Of
course I'm not talking about a method w/ absolutely no limits.

-RC

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RE: ColdFusion for kids

[Rick Faircloth]

I know this discussion evolved into a general discussion of
technology/computers/programming education in schools,
but you've got to remember what Kay wrote was the primary
objective of her 13-year-old brother:

"He wants his site to be cooler than
anyone else's at school"

You can make all the determinations you want about what is "best"
for this 13-year-old, but if they don't fit into his idea of what going to
make "his site...cooler than anyone else's at school", then you've
lost his interest before you begin.

She should find out what he thinks will make his site cooler than
anyone else's, then figure out a way to teach him how to make it so...
by whatever means that involves.

He's after achieving his immediate goal...not prepare for the future.
Help him reach that immediate goal and he'll keep using whatever
tools/methods got the results.  People, especially kids, don't learn
for learning's sake...they learn what's necessary to achieve their goals.

Here's a suggestion:  There are few people alive that don't like to look
at pictures of themselves.  Have him develop a photo gallery that he
can use to add, update, and delete photos of himself and his friends.
Instant cool based on the self-interest of everyone involved.

Rick

Rick Faircloth
Prism Productions

-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion for kids


Although I had chimed in teasing that I have a young daughter that may
be a prodigy- I have to agree with this. It is dead on. Although it's
nice to build any skill set in potential prodigy, just as you would push
piano or violin on a brilliant talented musician, extra coloring for a
kid with a fantastic design sense - programming on the same, - it is
human interaction and intercommunication skills that are a priority -
and computers while in some cases "loosely" can be argued that they are
promoted - for the most part desensitize human interaction.

Ironically - how much interaction is gained by chatting wtih people on
this list - but it's still not the "same" as teaching civic classes,
promoting 1 on 1 interaction and such.

sorry for bantering- but It's just one of those things I believe in -
eliminating cell phones for 9 years olds, encouraging interaction vs
children sitting in front of a TV much less hiding in code.

just my 2 cents. And I had to really  agree with what the likes of what
Dave and Jim mentioed.

Some food for thought -
IN todays tech future world - when do you think Computer Science and
possible language classes will be required multilingual much like being
forced for learn a foregin language like French or Spanish etc.

jay miller

P.S. - I failed Turbo Pascal horribly in 9 th grade. :)


Jim Davis wrote:


-Original Message-

From: Dave Watts [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
]

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:22 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: RE: ColdFusion for kids

I hate to be a wet blanket, but I'm not a big fan of teaching

CF programming to kids, for several reasons. First, I'm not

sure that we should be teaching programming to kids

generally; on the list of things that everyone should learn,

I think it's pretty low. There's a difference between

learning basic computer skills (which, sadly, are necessary

for almost everyone nowadays) and learning how to program. I

think it's a sad commentary on the state of the computer

industry that people have to spend so much time learning

basic computer skills, actually - these things are supposed

to be easy to use, but of course they aren't, really. I'd

much rather see every student have a firmer grasp on the

"three Rs" than have them all able to churn out web

applications. I'd rather see civics classes again, actually.

I just don't think programming is all that important, I guess.





My personal wish is that children got more lessons in "how to think"

than in "what to think".



In this case I think that programming may be a boon... Critical thinking

is woefully misrepresented in American cirricula.  Programming can

encompass a good portion of those critical thinking skills that are so

lacking today.



Of course there are other ways, but in general I personally would rather

less focus on rote learning and more focus on independent, critical

thought and information gathering.





Second, for those students who want to learn programming, I

think it's more important to focus on core programming

concepts than it is to teach the specifics of CFMX. I'd

rather see them learn programming using a lower-level

language than CFML, and a more general-purpose language, too.

I think Java and Python would be better languages for

learning how to program.





I agree with this... In theory.  I started a long time ago and we

learned Turbo Pascal (turbo because you had strings!) in our "advanced

computing" high school course ("basic computing" used, you guessed it! -

BASIC).  It was

RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

> Use HTML in your CFC, go ahead. The point is to remember that you are
> limiting the use of the method. Again, this isn't the end of the world
> and certainly can be useful, I just want people to remember that.
> 
If I were to create a CFC for the sole purpose of outputting HTML to a
browser then I think the fact that it is limited to just that is quite
ok; desirable even.

For my own enlightenment, please explain how one would go about creating
a method that isn't limited.

-Matt

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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

> 
> > Well shoot, you could probably write an entire program in 
> one line of 
> > code - but sometimes it is important to make things 
> readable and easy
> to
> > understand as well. Take this simple example
> > 
> Nice try, but no. You are misconstruing the comparison. In 
> one case you a have a CFC that outputs HTML, while in another 
> case you have a CFC that must create a variable containing 
> HTML, return that variable to a CFM, and then have that CFM 
> output the HTML. The later is certainly less readable and 
> easy to understand.
> 

Use HTML in your CFC, go ahead. The point is to remember that you are
limiting the use of the method. Again, this isn't the end of the world
and certainly can be useful, I just want people to remember that. 

===
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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

You say twice that I'm talking about returning HTML from a CFC for Flash
- this is not what I meant - and I don't think I ever said that - but if
so - sorry. What I was talking about was results, that could then be
used as HTML or Flash. 

-ray
 
> > Errr, that makes no sense at all. I'm still talking about CFCs
> directly
> > outputting versus just returning...
> > 
> If you mean returning as in "returning an HTML string" then 
> my mistake. But, I'm sorry, returning an HTML string to Flash 
> for rending is silly. Why would you ever want to do that?
> 
> > And again, I disagree, there certainly is reason to at 
> least stop and 
> > think before outputting from the method, for the reasons I 
> have made 
> > clear. I am not saying "Never do this or you will face the wrath
> of...",
> > I am simply saying that if you do chose to do this, you should
> remember
> > the consequences.
> > 
> What consequences? The only you have mentioned is the ability 
> to return the HTML to Flash, which I can't imagine anyone 
> wanting to do anyway.
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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

> Well shoot, you could probably write an entire program in one line of
> code - but sometimes it is important to make things readable and easy
to
> understand as well. Take this simple example
> 
Nice try, but no. You are misconstruing the comparison. In one case you
a have a CFC that outputs HTML, while in another case you have a CFC
that must create a variable containing HTML, return that variable to a
CFM, and then have that CFM output the HTML. The later is certainly less
readable and easy to understand.

-Matt

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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Tony,

Make sure and set the "throwonerror" attribute to "yes" on the cfhttp tag -
otherwise the tag sometimes obfuscates error codes and returns something
generic (like "connection failure".



-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


i can resolve it with my browser 100% fine

here is the address...

https://credit.creditplus.com/inetapi/get_report3.asp

if you can get to it, you should get an error message
about xml not being correct.

when i post to this, i get just connnection failure, and i know
thats coming cf not their server.

WTF

a very stressedtony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

Well can you resolve ANY of their addresses from the server using a
browser? As far as deleting a cert, I'm not sure how CF handles the
storage
of public keys, but you can delete certs from the local store in IE by
going
to internet options and clicking on "content", then "Certificates".
From
what it sounds this is a red herring though.  First check to make sure
that
you can ping or resolve their address physically from the server
(without
using CF).  If you have a problem resolving the IP address, check to see
if
the IP that you see for them on your local desktop is different from the
one
you get from the server.  It's possible you have an entry in a host file
-
or that they have changed their IP address along with their cert.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


its cfmx, and worked 100% up until sunday, (the day they changed it).
if i do a post/get to any other type of page, non-ssl non-https it
pukes.

how would one go about deleting a cert from his "cert store"?

thanks!
tony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

> Errr, that makes no sense at all. I'm still talking about CFCs
directly
> outputting versus just returning...
> 
If you mean returning as in "returning an HTML string" then my mistake.
But, I'm sorry, returning an HTML string to Flash for rending is silly.
Why would you ever want to do that?

> And again, I disagree, there certainly is reason to at least stop and
> think before outputting from the method, for the reasons I have made
> clear. I am not saying "Never do this or you will face the wrath
of...",
> I am simply saying that if you do chose to do this, you should
remember
> the consequences.
> 
What consequences? The only you have mentioned is the ability to return
the HTML to Flash, which I can't imagine anyone wanting to do anyway.

-Matt

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CFOUTPUT group by & recordcount HELP

[Tom Forbes]

I have checked my books and the CF achieve, but need a little help in the 
right direction, please.

I have a db table that contains, among other things, Domain Names and about 
20 Different Domain Name Categories. I want to Output the results of this 
db table by GROUPING the Domain Name Categories (I got that to work) and 
next to the Category I would like to use the RecordCount parameter of the 
Query to indicate how many Domain Names in each category. The problem with 
the code below is that the RecordCount parameter returns the TOTAL number 
of categories, not the Total Number of Categories for each particular 
Domain Name.

I would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks!

I have:


 SELECT *
 FROM DomainCategoryTbl,DomainNamesTbl
WHERE DomainCategoryTbl.DomainCategoryID=DomainNamesTbl.DomainCategoryID
ORDER By DomainCategory, DomainName


and for the output I have:



Category: #DomainCategory# - #GroupDomainCategories.RecordCount#


#DomainName#




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RE: PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and other weird errors

[Jim Davis]

Has there been a sudden surge of usage around the same time?  That might
indeed indicate a locking problem.

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Andres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag 
> and other weird errors
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> I have recently (last 36 or so hours) have began experiencing 
> server timeouts, hangs, and have needed to restart CF and IIS 
> in all my servers.
> 
> Among the many errors i get in the application.log file are 
> things such as 
> PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and 
> CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode12233344
> 445654321
> 
> I started a support event with MM. Their engineer tells me it 
> is an issue with shared variable locking. I have began 
> looking closely at my code and have found some potential 
> locking issues. But the fact is that my code HAS NOT CHANGED 
> since we went 5.0 over 5 months ago. No other major changes 
> have taken place.
> 
> I am starting to make sure all my app, session, and server 
> vars are properly locked, but we host two huge apps (over 
> 1500 templates each) so it will take time to go through them.
> 
> My question is.. has anyone ever experienced their CF server 
> suddenly require such drastic use of cflocking?
> 
> Any suggestions or ideas will be much appreciated!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andres 
> 
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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

> It doesn't matter if it is significant or not. What matters 
> is that what you suggest requires extra effort and has more 
> overhead than outputting directly. You need to show why that 
> extra effort and overhead is worth it.
> 

Well shoot, you could probably write an entire program in one line of
code - but sometimes it is important to make things readable and easy to
understand as well. Take this simple example

method 1:
 This is the
second paragraph of #goo#">

method 2: 

This is the result of #foo(moo)#

This is the second paragraph of #goo#


Again - this is pretty trivial, but if the text were much more complex,
the second method would be much easier to read, debug, update, etc. Of
course, that just may be a matter of personal style.

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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

> 
> > I'm not talking about returning HTML, I'm talking about returning 
> > results, which can then be displayed in HTML, Flash, whatever.
> >
> Well then you are off track on this thread as it is about 
> outputting HTML directly from a CFC.

Errr, that makes no sense at all. I'm still talking about CFCs directly
outputting versus just returning...

> > I think we are really just going
> > around in circles now. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just
> clarifying
> > why I would normally recommend against outputting in CFCs.
> >
> I certainly understand your position, but I don't think you 
> have shown any reason for or against using a CFC for display purposes.
> 

And again, I disagree, there certainly is reason to at least stop and
think before outputting from the method, for the reasons I have made
clear. I am not saying "Never do this or you will face the wrath of...",
I am simply saying that if you do chose to do this, you should remember
the consequences.

===
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RE: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures

[Matt Liotta]

I've been happy with XML databases for this type of work. XML is
naturally hierarchical, so XML databases handle that type of information
well. I've been using Xindice quite a bit. You can read an article I
wrote on Xindice here (http://www.devx.com/xml/article/9796).

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:00 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures
> 
> On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 05:53 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
> 
> > I highly recommend people look into a hierarchical engine for handle
> > hierarchical information.
> >
> >
> 
> Any suggestions, recommendations?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

It doesn't matter if it is significant or not. What matters is that what
you suggest requires extra effort and has more overhead than outputting
directly. You need to show why that extra effort and overhead is worth
it.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:46 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> I agree using cfsavecontent would slow things down - but would it be
> significant for most uses? I think not. If it was significant, you
could
> simply just generate the string with one big cfset. The cfsavecontent
> would be a bit easier to manage, but you could certainly get rid of
it.
> 
>
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> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:33 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFC output
> >
> >
> > Sorry forgot to answer about performance. I have done any
> > testing to see what the difference in performance would be
> > between outputting HTML directly or using cfsavecontent.
> > However, it is quite obvious using cfsavecontent has more
> > overhead because you now have two cfoutput calls instead of
> > one as well as wrapping one of those calls inside a custom tag.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> 
> 
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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Stacy Young]

That may be a surpressed error from the CFDUMP tagcheck the line
number...

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

well i got that installed, restarted, but still getting this...

here is what i found at the bottom of the page that im trying to run...

Exceptions

21:48:54.054 - java.lang.NullPointerException - in
D:\www\clients\cx_WebServiceApp\ScoreWizard\getOldReport.cfm : line 208
21:48:54.054 - Expression Exception - in
D:\www\clients\cx_WebServiceApp\ScoreWizard\getOldReport.cfm : line 208
Element RawHeader is undefined in a Java object of type class
coldfusion.runtime.StructBean referenced as 


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Woops, forgot to point out it's the " Java Virtual Machine Path" your're
setting...then restart cfmx.


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

I believe he said he was running cfmx no?

Tony the download is available here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

After you install it u have to go into the CF admin, Java and JVM
section
and browse to the install directory of the new JRE. Which in my case on
my
development machine is:

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1

I can't say for certain this will fix your problem but we ran into many
instances where CFMX didn't like 128 certs. Only thing that fixed it was
the
new JRE.

HTH,

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

I dont think it applies to a CF5 installation Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


shiiitifiknow :)
how would i discern? and how can i install
higher version?

thanks
tony :)

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

> I'm not talking about returning HTML, I'm talking about returning
> results, which can then be displayed in HTML, Flash, whatever.
>
Well then you are off track on this thread as it is about outputting
HTML directly from a CFC.

> You are
> saying that you would use a CFC to generate HTML. I am saying that I
> _normally_ would not since I would want the CFC to be able to work
with
> as many different callers as possible.
>
I think you are confusing the issue here. If you want a CFC to do only
business logic that is fine. However, that doesn't stop you from having
AN ADDITIONAL CFC to display HTML based it. You seem to want...

display  <--  logic
CFM/SWF   CFC

And the above is a fine way to do it. However, there is nothing wrong
with using a CFC for display as well like the following.

diplay  <--  logic
CFC/SWF  CFC

> I think we are really just going
> around in circles now. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just
clarifying
> why I would normally recommend against outputting in CFCs.
>
I certainly understand your position, but I don't think you have shown
any reason for or against using a CFC for display purposes.

-Matt

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Re: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures

[Dick Applebaum]

On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 05:53 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:

> I highly recommend people look into a hierarchical engine for handle
> hierarchical information.
>
>

Any suggestions, recommendations?

TIA

Dick

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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

well i got that installed, restarted, but still getting this...

here is what i found at the bottom of the page that im trying to run...

Exceptions

21:48:54.054 - java.lang.NullPointerException - in
D:\www\clients\cx_WebServiceApp\ScoreWizard\getOldReport.cfm : line 208
21:48:54.054 - Expression Exception - in
D:\www\clients\cx_WebServiceApp\ScoreWizard\getOldReport.cfm : line 208
Element RawHeader is undefined in a Java object of type class
coldfusion.runtime.StructBean referenced as 


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Woops, forgot to point out it's the " Java Virtual Machine Path" your're
setting...then restart cfmx.


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

I believe he said he was running cfmx no?

Tony the download is available here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

After you install it u have to go into the CF admin, Java and JVM
section
and browse to the install directory of the new JRE. Which in my case on
my
development machine is:

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1

I can't say for certain this will fix your problem but we ran into many
instances where CFMX didn't like 128 certs. Only thing that fixed it was
the
new JRE.

HTH,

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

I dont think it applies to a CF5 installation Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


shiiitifiknow :)
how would i discern? and how can i install
higher version?

thanks
tony :)

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
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RE: CFC output

[Stacy Young]

Logic CFC -> Display CFC (outputting HTML)

In any environment other than HTML/Browser the CFC being used for display is
useless...but the logic in the first CFC can still be used for HTML/Flash or
Web Service at any time.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFC output

I'm not talking about returning HTML, I'm talking about returning
results, which can then be displayed in HTML, Flash, whatever. You are
saying that you would use a CFC to generate HTML. I am saying that I
_normally_ would not since I would want the CFC to be able to work with
as many different callers as possible. I think we are really just going
around in circles now. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just clarifying
why I would normally recommend against outputting in CFCs.

-Raymond

> I don't think you are getting it. If you build a CFC for the 
> purpose of displaying HTML then that is all it should do. 
> There is no trying to make it work with Flash now or later. 
> Frankly, it doesn't even make any sense why you would want to 
> return HTML to Flash for display purposes anyway as Flash 
> should be able to handle creating a view on its own, possibly 
> even calling the same business logic that the HTML CFC would.
> 
> Matt Liotta



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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

I agree using cfsavecontent would slow things down - but would it be
significant for most uses? I think not. If it was significant, you could
simply just generate the string with one big cfset. The cfsavecontent
would be a bit easier to manage, but you could certainly get rid of it.

===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> 
> Sorry forgot to answer about performance. I have done any 
> testing to see what the difference in performance would be 
> between outputting HTML directly or using cfsavecontent. 
> However, it is quite obvious using cfsavecontent has more 
> overhead because you now have two cfoutput calls instead of 
> one as well as wrapping one of those calls inside a custom tag.
> 
> Matt Liotta

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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

I'm not talking about returning HTML, I'm talking about returning
results, which can then be displayed in HTML, Flash, whatever. You are
saying that you would use a CFC to generate HTML. I am saying that I
_normally_ would not since I would want the CFC to be able to work with
as many different callers as possible. I think we are really just going
around in circles now. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just clarifying
why I would normally recommend against outputting in CFCs.

-Raymond

> I don't think you are getting it. If you build a CFC for the 
> purpose of displaying HTML then that is all it should do. 
> There is no trying to make it work with Flash now or later. 
> Frankly, it doesn't even make any sense why you would want to 
> return HTML to Flash for display purposes anyway as Flash 
> should be able to handle creating a view on its own, possibly 
> even calling the same business logic that the HTML CFC would.
> 
> Matt Liotta


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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Stacy Young]

Woops, forgot to point out it's the " Java Virtual Machine Path" your're
setting...then restart cfmx.


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

I believe he said he was running cfmx no?

Tony the download is available here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

After you install it u have to go into the CF admin, Java and JVM section
and browse to the install directory of the new JRE. Which in my case on my
development machine is:

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1

I can't say for certain this will fix your problem but we ran into many
instances where CFMX didn't like 128 certs. Only thing that fixed it was the
new JRE.

HTH,

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

I dont think it applies to a CF5 installation Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


shiiitifiknow :)
how would i discern? and how can i install
higher version?

thanks
tony :)

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and other weird errors

[Matt Liotta]

It might not be locking that is causing your issue. It is just that the
support policy for ColdFusion is to make sure everything is locked
before they will help you.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Andres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and
other
> weird errors
> 
> Hello All,
> I have recently (last 36 or so hours) have began experiencing server
> timeouts, hangs, and have needed to restart CF and IIS in all my
servers.
> 
> Among the many errors i get in the application.log file are things
such as
> PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and
>
CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode1223335654
32
> 1
> 
> I started a support event with MM. Their engineer tells me it is an
issue
> with shared variable locking. I have began looking closely at my code
and
> have found some potential locking issues. But the fact is that my code
HAS
> NOT CHANGED since we went 5.0 over 5 months ago. No other major
changes
> have taken place.
> 
> I am starting to make sure all my app, session, and server vars are
> properly locked, but we host two huge apps (over 1500 templates each)
so
> it will take time to go through them.
> 
> My question is.. has anyone ever experienced their CF server suddenly
> require such drastic use of cflocking?
> 
> Any suggestions or ideas will be much appreciated!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andres
> 
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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

Sorry forgot to answer about performance. I have done any testing to see
what the difference in performance would be between outputting HTML
directly or using cfsavecontent. However, it is quite obvious using
cfsavecontent has more overhead because you now have two cfoutput calls
instead of one as well as wrapping one of those calls inside a custom
tag.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> But you would still have one CFC that would be using only cfreturn,
> whereas another CFC would handle taking the result and displaying it,
> correct? In that regards, you would (or could have) built the lower
CFC
> in such a way so that it would not only work with the higher CFC
caller,
> but also a flash or WS caller. Again, I'm just saying that it _may_ be
> best to plan for the future and _default_ to not outputting directly,
> that way if you do change your mind later, you aren't going to have to
> recode a bunch of crap. Also, I have not seen the speed differences
you
> mentioned earlier. What kind of #s are you seeing? (Rough is fine.)
> 
>
===
> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> Yahoo IM : morpheus
> 
> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:44 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFC output
> >
> >
> > Not in MVC. In MVC the model, the view, and the controller
> > are all separate objects. It is certainly valid to use a CFC
> > to represent each of these pieces and as such there is no
> > calling template.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > 888-408-0900 x901
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:30 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > >
> > > Does this back up what I said though? If you break away the
display
> > from
> > > the logic used to generate it, wouldn't the display be left to the
> > > calling template and not the CFC? Ie, for the method, um,
whatever,
> > the
> > > method would return a string and the caller would handle
outputting,
> > or
> > > perhaps saving it to a file, whatever, the point is that the CFC
> > > wouldn't output, it would just return the result. The caller would
> > > handle the result.
> > >
> > >
> > ==
> > =
> > > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> > >
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> > > Yahoo IM : morpheus
> > >
> > > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Kevin Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Think we should listen to Matt on this one ... 3 letters
> > for dealing
> > > > with
> > > > cfcs: MVC (Model - View - Controller) ... learn it, live it,
love
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Bridges
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:09 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > > >
> > > > The logic used to derive those results should be
> > decoupled from the
> > > > display.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Stacy Young]

I believe he said he was running cfmx no?

Tony the download is available here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

After you install it u have to go into the CF admin, Java and JVM section
and browse to the install directory of the new JRE. Which in my case on my
development machine is:

C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.1

I can't say for certain this will fix your problem but we ran into many
instances where CFMX didn't like 128 certs. Only thing that fixed it was the
new JRE.

HTH,

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

I dont think it applies to a CF5 installation Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


shiiitifiknow :)
how would i discern? and how can i install
higher version?

thanks
tony :)

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331







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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

i am cfmx here.

tony

-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


I dont think it applies to a CF5 installation Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


shiiitifiknow :)
how would i discern? and how can i install
higher version?

thanks
tony :)

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331







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PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and other weird errors

[Andres]

Hello All,
I have recently (last 36 or so hours) have began experiencing server timeouts, hangs, 
and have needed to restart CF and IIS in all my servers.

Among the many errors i get in the application.log file are things such as 
PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag and 
CFTempOnlyForSetVariableNeverUseThisNameInYourCFMLCode1223335654321

I started a support event with MM. Their engineer tells me it is an issue with shared 
variable locking. I have began looking closely at my code and have found some 
potential locking issues. But the fact is that my code HAS NOT CHANGED since we went 
5.0 over 5 months ago. No other major changes have taken place.

I am starting to make sure all my app, session, and server vars are properly locked, 
but we host two huge apps (over 1500 templates each) so it will take time to go 
through them.

My question is.. has anyone ever experienced their CF server suddenly require such 
drastic use of cflocking?

Any suggestions or ideas will be much appreciated!

Thanks

Andres
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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Jared Clinton]

I dont think it applies to a CF5 installation Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


shiiitifiknow :)
how would i discern? and how can i install
higher version?

thanks
tony :)

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331






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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

stace
would this be ok?

Download J2SETM v 1.4.1_01

from sun's site?

and will the install proliferate to the machine such
that cfmx would recognize and make use of it?

thanks.
tony

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331





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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

shiiitifiknow :)
how would i discern? and how can i install
higher version?

thanks
tony :)

-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
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RE: CF Developer Directory?

[Tony Weeg]

cfjobs mailing list.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

tony

-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Developer Directory?


Does anyone publish a good, searchable, ColdFusion developer directory.
We were
contacted recently by a potential client, but are too busy to handle
their needs
at the moment.  He's looking for a local developer, and I could only
think of a
couple of other shops that he might try.

Thanks,
Jim


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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

CN = Comodo Class 3 Security Services CA
OU = (c)2002 Comodo Limited
OU = Terms and Conditions of use: http://www.comodo.net/repository
OU = Comodo Trust Network
O = Comodo Limited
C = GB

is the cert info i have on it?

any ideas?

thanks tony

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


i can resolve it with my browser 100% fine

here is the address...

https://credit.creditplus.com/inetapi/get_report3.asp

if you can get to it, you should get an error message
about xml not being correct.

when i post to this, i get just connnection failure, and i know
thats coming cf not their server.

WTF

a very stressedtony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

Well can you resolve ANY of their addresses from the server using a
browser? As far as deleting a cert, I'm not sure how CF handles the
storage
of public keys, but you can delete certs from the local store in IE by
going
to internet options and clicking on "content", then "Certificates".
From
what it sounds this is a red herring though.  First check to make sure
that
you can ping or resolve their address physically from the server
(without
using CF).  If you have a problem resolving the IP address, check to see
if
the IP that you see for them on your local desktop is different from the
one
you get from the server.  It's possible you have an entry in a host file
-
or that they have changed their IP address along with their cert.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


its cfmx, and worked 100% up until sunday, (the day they changed it).
if i do a post/get to any other type of page, non-ssl non-https it
pukes.

how would one go about deleting a cert from his "cert store"?

thanks!
tony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331






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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Stacy Young]

What JRE are u using? For some 128 certs you'll need JRE 1.4.1

Stace


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

i can resolve it with my browser 100% fine

here is the address...

https://credit.creditplus.com/inetapi/get_report3.asp

if you can get to it, you should get an error message
about xml not being correct.

when i post to this, i get just connnection failure, and i know
thats coming cf not their server.

WTF

a very stressedtony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

Well can you resolve ANY of their addresses from the server using a
browser? As far as deleting a cert, I'm not sure how CF handles the
storage
of public keys, but you can delete certs from the local store in IE by
going
to internet options and clicking on "content", then "Certificates".
From
what it sounds this is a red herring though.  First check to make sure
that
you can ping or resolve their address physically from the server
(without
using CF).  If you have a problem resolving the IP address, check to see
if
the IP that you see for them on your local desktop is different from the
one
you get from the server.  It's possible you have an entry in a host file
-
or that they have changed their IP address along with their cert.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


its cfmx, and worked 100% up until sunday, (the day they changed it).
if i do a post/get to any other type of page, non-ssl non-https it
pukes.

how would one go about deleting a cert from his "cert store"?

thanks!
tony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
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RE: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures

[Matt Liotta]

Nested sets tends to be one of the better ways to handle hierarchical
information in a relational engine, but still generally sucks in
comparison to a hierarchical engine. The hash string method that I
briefly describe below tends to be easier to understand than nested sets
and has the added benefit of being more scalable. In fact, we used a
similar method when I was at DevX to handle our multi-dimensional
taxonomy that handled hundreds of thousands nodes.

I highly recommend people look into a hierarchical engine for handle
hierarchical information.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures
> 
>   As an aside to this conversation..
> 
>   Ya'll may want to take a look at this thread
> .
>   I have not been following it religiously, but it does talk about
> building
> a discussion room / forum.  It touch base on self-referencing tables (
as
> described below ) and a different method called nested sets, which
they go
> into in the thread (with links to resources).
> 
> 
> At 03:30 PM 12/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >If I understand you correctly, you are representing a hierarchical
> >relationship in a tabular manner. If there is another way you can
store
> >this information I would suggest it highly as there are many data
> >structures much better suited for storage of hierarchical
information.
> >For example, a tree would give you O(log N) vs. your current O(N)
> >performance. As you can see, if N is large it makes a big difference.
> >
> >Now then, assuming you are stuck on your tabular data structure I
would
> >suggest some changes to it. Right now you have the following.
> >
> >itemidparentidname
> >10root
> >211st child of root
> >321st sub child
> >422nd sub child
> >512nd child of root
> >651st child of 2nd
> >
> >Instead of relating a child to its parent via a primary key, I would
> >suggest creating a hash string to represent the relationship, which
> >might look like the following.
> >
> >itemId  hashname
> >1   001 root
> >2   001002  1st child of root
> >3   001002003   1st sub child
> >4   001002004   2nd sub child
> >5   001005  2nd child of root
> >6   001005006   1st child of 2nd
> >
> >Above I have used a simple hash formula, which represents the itemId
> >using a 3 digit fixed notation. I then create a hash string for each
> >item by appending the item's hash to that of its parent's. This
allows
> >you to just sort the whole table based on a single column and
everything
> >is done for you.
> >
> >The above has formula is only an example and is limited to 999 unique
> >items. You would need to create a hash formula best suited for the
> >number of unique items you need to support. However, resist the
> >temptation to make individual item's hash too long as deeply nest
items
> >would have very long strings.
> >
> >Matt Liotta
> >President & CEO
> >Montara Software, Inc.
> >http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> >888-408-0900 x901
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:08 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures
> > >
> > > You can see the code here:
> > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/_library/maketree.txt
> > > Your example will fail as there can be more than one item with the
> >same
> > > 'parent', which is what we're looking for. No matter what, we have
to
> >do a
> > > search and the list search functions seem to be the fastest of the
> > > searches
> > > around, even though the list items have to be parsed.
> > >
> > > For those wondering what's going on, when dealing with a query
that
> >has to
> > > be
> > > turned into a tree, you have to first find the 'root' item, then
all
> >of
> > > its
> > > children, then the next root item, etc.
> > >
> > > itemidparentidname
> > > 10 root
> > > 21 1st child of root
> > > 32 1st sub child
> > > 42  2nd sub child
> > > 51  2nd child of root
> > > 65  1st child of 2nd
> > > We would have to first look at root and get its children. Item 2
is
> >its
> > > first
> > > child. Does item 2 have any children? If so, we get those children
on
> > > down. When
> > > item 2 or it's children are finished, we go onto the next chold of
the
> > > root.
> > > That is item 5. We do the same thing for 5, getting all of its
> >children.
> > >
> > > > Michael Dinowit

RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

I don't think you are getting it. If you build a CFC for the purpose of
displaying HTML then that is all it should do. There is no trying to
make it work with Flash now or later. Frankly, it doesn't even make any
sense why you would want to return HTML to Flash for display purposes
anyway as Flash should be able to handle creating a view on its own,
possibly even calling the same business logic that the HTML CFC would.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> But you would still have one CFC that would be using only cfreturn,
> whereas another CFC would handle taking the result and displaying it,
> correct? In that regards, you would (or could have) built the lower
CFC
> in such a way so that it would not only work with the higher CFC
caller,
> but also a flash or WS caller. Again, I'm just saying that it _may_ be
> best to plan for the future and _default_ to not outputting directly,
> that way if you do change your mind later, you aren't going to have to
> recode a bunch of crap. Also, I have not seen the speed differences
you
> mentioned earlier. What kind of #s are you seeing? (Rough is fine.)
> 
>
===
> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> Yahoo IM : morpheus
> 
> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:44 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFC output
> >
> >
> > Not in MVC. In MVC the model, the view, and the controller
> > are all separate objects. It is certainly valid to use a CFC
> > to represent each of these pieces and as such there is no
> > calling template.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > 888-408-0900 x901
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:30 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > >
> > > Does this back up what I said though? If you break away the
display
> > from
> > > the logic used to generate it, wouldn't the display be left to the
> > > calling template and not the CFC? Ie, for the method, um,
whatever,
> > the
> > > method would return a string and the caller would handle
outputting,
> > or
> > > perhaps saving it to a file, whatever, the point is that the CFC
> > > wouldn't output, it would just return the result. The caller would
> > > handle the result.
> > >
> > >
> > ==
> > =
> > > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> > >
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> > > Yahoo IM : morpheus
> > >
> > > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Kevin Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Think we should listen to Matt on this one ... 3 letters
> > for dealing
> > > > with
> > > > cfcs: MVC (Model - View - Controller) ... learn it, live it,
love
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Bridges
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:09 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > > >
> > > > The logic used to derive those results should be
> > decoupled from the
> > > > display.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: String trimming questions

[Matthew Walker]

The simplest is probably trim(listGetAt(myString, 1)),
trim(listGetAt(myString, 2)), and trim(listGetAt(myString, 3))

Matthew Walker
ESW
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mitko Gerensky-Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 2:18 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: String trimming questions
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a string like this:
> 
> 6BPH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Albuquerque;
> 
> How can I trim the string so that it results into three 
> separate strings --
> each of the pieces separated by a comma? The semicolon is the 
> delimiter for
> the list in which the cited string is only one element.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mitko
> 
> 
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Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

[jon hall]

Makes sense, but why CF's mail spool process is dying doesn't...

The only other thing I could think to check, would be after you notice
the mail files getting stuck in the spool, check to see if you can
run a script that uses cfmail and see if it too gets stuck. If it
does, the mail spool process it totally fubared, and it might be a
corrupted mail file of some kind. I know this was a problem in past
versions. Restarting CF in this case should cause the mail to be
sent, rebooting the server shouldn't be necessary.

You might want to try and see if slowing down or speeding up the mail
spool checking time in the CF admin affects the problem at all. Other
than that, I'm fresh out of ideas.
-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, December 9, 2002, 6:42:49 PM, you wrote:
DN> It seems as if it's being stuck in the CF mail spool
DN> (c:\cfusionmx\mail\spool) -- I use IIS as my mail server.  Pretty simple
DN> setup.

DN> The only reason I assume it's getting stuck is because, like I said, all
DN> is fine but then the next time I reboot my computer I notice that it
DN> sends out a bunch of e-mails -- so it leads me to believe things got
DN> stuck when I originally ran the script to send all the e-mails and now
DN> that I've rebooted, it triggered the remaining ones and sent them off.

DN> Make sense?

DN> --D

DN> -Original Message-
DN> From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
DN> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
DN> To: CF-Talk
DN> Subject: Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

DN> CFMX can handle quite a few emails in it's spool without choking, I
DN> haven't bumped against a limit so far. I also haven't specifically seen
DN> this kind of behavior, but if the cf server spool process got confused
DN> somehow, it might cause such behavior.
DN> I've noticed that MX's spool keeps an internal counter of some kind,
DN> and if you copy an email out of the spool, let MX send it, and copy it
DN> back again it doesn't get sent.

DN> Are the emails getting stuck in the CF spool or the mail server spool,
DN> if it's the mail server spool, which mail server are you running?

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String trimming questions

[Mitko Gerensky-Greene]

Hello,

I have a string like this:

6BPH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Albuquerque;

How can I trim the string so that it results into three separate strings --
each of the pieces separated by a comma? The semicolon is the delimiter for
the list in which the cited string is only one element.

Thanks,

Mitko

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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Tony,

Well can you resolve ANY of their addresses from the server using a
browser? As far as deleting a cert, I'm not sure how CF handles the storage
of public keys, but you can delete certs from the local store in IE by going
to internet options and clicking on "content", then "Certificates".  From
what it sounds this is a red herring though.  First check to make sure that
you can ping or resolve their address physically from the server (without
using CF).  If you have a problem resolving the IP address, check to see if
the IP that you see for them on your local desktop is different from the one
you get from the server.  It's possible you have an entry in a host file -
or that they have changed their IP address along with their cert.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


its cfmx, and worked 100% up until sunday, (the day they changed it).
if i do a post/get to any other type of page, non-ssl non-https it
pukes.

how would one go about deleting a cert from his "cert store"?

thanks!
tony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Jared Clinton]

Tony,

(assuming you are using M$ products) 

Is the 'Instant SSL cert' trusted by your webserver?

Open Internet Explorer
>Tools
>Options
>Content
>Certificates
>Trusted Root Certification Authorities

If it doesn't appear in this list then the connection will not be setup.

To get it into the list, just request a page from your Internet Explorer and
say 'Yes' to all the prompts.

Regards, Jared.






-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331




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FedEx Shipping tag

[UXBinfo]

HI,

Has anyone written or knows of a CF tag for acquiring shipping costs from
the FEDEX on-line system?   I have found several UPS tags and a Fedex tag
with local price schedule but our customer wants to get real time costs. I
would rather not invest the time writing one from FedEx's information.

Thank you in advance.


Best regards,

Dennis Powers
UXB Internet - A Web Design and Hosting Company
tel: (203)879-2844  fax: (203)879-6254
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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

this is all i get!!


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

.tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331



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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

its cfmx, and worked 100% up until sunday, (the day they changed it).
if i do a post/get to any other type of page, non-ssl non-https it
pukes.

how would one go about deleting a cert from his "cert store"?

thanks!
tony

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: instant SSL HELP!


Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't
believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's
a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

.tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331



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RE: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures

[Jeffry Houser]

  As an aside to this conversation..

  Ya'll may want to take a look at this thread 
.
  I have not been following it religiously, but it does talk about building 
a discussion room / forum.  It touch base on self-referencing tables ( as 
described below ) and a different method called nested sets, which they go 
into in the thread (with links to resources).


At 03:30 PM 12/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>If I understand you correctly, you are representing a hierarchical
>relationship in a tabular manner. If there is another way you can store
>this information I would suggest it highly as there are many data
>structures much better suited for storage of hierarchical information.
>For example, a tree would give you O(log N) vs. your current O(N)
>performance. As you can see, if N is large it makes a big difference.
>
>Now then, assuming you are stuck on your tabular data structure I would
>suggest some changes to it. Right now you have the following.
>
>itemidparentidname
>10root
>211st child of root
>321st sub child
>422nd sub child
>512nd child of root
>651st child of 2nd
>
>Instead of relating a child to its parent via a primary key, I would
>suggest creating a hash string to represent the relationship, which
>might look like the following.
>
>itemId  hashname
>1   001 root
>2   001002  1st child of root
>3   001002003   1st sub child
>4   001002004   2nd sub child
>5   001005  2nd child of root
>6   001005006   1st child of 2nd
>
>Above I have used a simple hash formula, which represents the itemId
>using a 3 digit fixed notation. I then create a hash string for each
>item by appending the item's hash to that of its parent's. This allows
>you to just sort the whole table based on a single column and everything
>is done for you.
>
>The above has formula is only an example and is limited to 999 unique
>items. You would need to create a hash formula best suited for the
>number of unique items you need to support. However, resist the
>temptation to make individual item's hash too long as deeply nest items
>would have very long strings.
>
>Matt Liotta
>President & CEO
>Montara Software, Inc.
>http://www.montarasoftware.com/
>888-408-0900 x901
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:08 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Lists vs. Arrays vs. Structures
> >
> > You can see the code here:
> > http://www.houseoffusion.com/_library/maketree.txt
> > Your example will fail as there can be more than one item with the
>same
> > 'parent', which is what we're looking for. No matter what, we have to
>do a
> > search and the list search functions seem to be the fastest of the
> > searches
> > around, even though the list items have to be parsed.
> >
> > For those wondering what's going on, when dealing with a query that
>has to
> > be
> > turned into a tree, you have to first find the 'root' item, then all
>of
> > its
> > children, then the next root item, etc.
> >
> > itemidparentidname
> > 10 root
> > 21 1st child of root
> > 32 1st sub child
> > 42  2nd sub child
> > 51  2nd child of root
> > 65  1st child of 2nd
> > We would have to first look at root and get its children. Item 2 is
>its
> > first
> > child. Does item 2 have any children? If so, we get those children on
> > down. When
> > item 2 or it's children are finished, we go onto the next chold of the
> > root.
> > That is item 5. We do the same thing for 5, getting all of its
>children.
> >
> > > Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > > > I think that a new array search function might be in order here.
> > Something
> > to
> > > > look through an array for a value and return its index.
> > > >
> > > >>I'm not sure what you are really trying to accomplish here.
> > >
> > > I agree with matt, are you working on the maketree tag in cf? lets
>talk
> > > examples...
> > >
> > > do you modify the array, ( ie inserting or deleting array members
>other
> > > than from the end?) if not then u could index the array using
>structures
> > >
> > > 
> > >  item_array=ArrayNew(1);
> > >  item_struct=StructNew();
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > x=arraylen(item_array);
> > > item_array[x]=qry_item.item;
> > > item_struct[qry_item.item]=x;
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > find where dog is in the array = item_struct["dog"] or
>item_struct.dog
> > >
> > > this method is so fast scaling the dataset makes almost no
>difference in
> > > speed
> > >
> > > now you can always find the position of x in the array using the
>struct,
> > > this of course doesn't handle ver

RE: CF Developer Directory?

[Tilbrook, Peter]

Try the Macromedia Partners site at http://partners.macromedia.com/.

Click on the "find a partner" link.

==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA

  WWW: http://www.abcb.gov.au/
   E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
   Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287


-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 11:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Developer Directory?


Does anyone publish a good, searchable, ColdFusion developer directory.  We
were
contacted recently by a potential client, but are too busy to handle their
needs
at the moment.  He's looking for a local developer, and I could only think
of a
couple of other shops that he might try.

Thanks,
Jim


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Re: CF Developer Directory?

[samcfug]

You can search for Certified developers on the Macromedia Site, but  probably
the best source would be to look for a local CF user group or one that is near
you and send an inquiry to the group manager.  There is also a list of user
groups on the MM site as well.  They can usually put you in contact with a
selection of developers that can do the job.  I would suggest the latter as the
fastest way to get a solution for your client.

=
Douglas White
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:01 PM
Subject: CF Developer Directory?


| Does anyone publish a good, searchable, ColdFusion developer directory.  We
were
| contacted recently by a potential client, but are too busy to handle their
needs
| at the moment.  He's looking for a local developer, and I could only think of
a
| couple of other shops that he might try.
|
| Thanks,
| Jim
|
| 
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RE: CF Developer Directory?

[Mike Brunt]

Jim, can you post where you are located in case any of us knows any good
people who are looking.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
Webapper
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Web site http://www.webapper.com
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562.243.6255
AIM - webappermb

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-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Developer Directory?


Does anyone publish a good, searchable, ColdFusion developer directory.  We
were
contacted recently by a potential client, but are too busy to handle their
needs
at the moment.  He's looking for a local developer, and I could only think
of a
couple of other shops that he might try.

Thanks,
Jim


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RE: instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Tony,

The problem may not be the cert but the level of encryption. I don't believe
that CF 5 supports 128 bit encryption for CFHTTP.  To solve it you might
have to switch to a different request agent. Either that or you need to
delete the original cert from your requesting server cert store? (that's a a
wild guess).

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: instant SSL HELP!


hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

..tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331


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Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

[samcfug]

It makes sense - seems like there is a time-out issue somewhere.

On my server, I have Imail as the mail server and host a number of list-serv
accounts, and have never run into that problem.  In fact my server has not been
rebooted in over a month.

There is a slight configuration difference on my server, and that is that I do
not allow relaying, and require SMTP AUTH for outgoing mail.
I run CF 5.0 and it has been doing the job quite well for aver a year now.  I do
not have SMTP running under IIS 5.0, as Imail has its own SMTP engine.

With these differences, I could not duplicate your error.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: "David Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!


| It seems as if it's being stuck in the CF mail spool
| (c:\cfusionmx\mail\spool) -- I use IIS as my mail server.  Pretty simple
| setup.
|
| The only reason I assume it's getting stuck is because, like I said, all
| is fine but then the next time I reboot my computer I notice that it
| sends out a bunch of e-mails -- so it leads me to believe things got
| stuck when I originally ran the script to send all the e-mails and now
| that I've rebooted, it triggered the remaining ones and sent them off.
|
| Make sense?
|
| --D
|
| -Original Message-
| From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!
|
| CFMX can handle quite a few emails in it's spool without choking, I
| haven't bumped against a limit so far. I also haven't specifically seen
| this kind of behavior, but if the cf server spool process got confused
| somehow, it might cause such behavior.
| I've noticed that MX's spool keeps an internal counter of some kind,
| and if you copy an email out of the spool, let MX send it, and copy it
| back again it doesn't get sent.
|
| Are the emails getting stuck in the CF spool or the mail server spool,
| if it's the mail server spool, which mail server are you running?
|
| --
|  jon
|  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| Monday, December 9, 2002, 6:07:20 PM, you wrote:
| DN> See below.  Anybody else have any ideas?
|
| DN> --D
|
| DN> -Original Message-
| DN> From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| DN> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:45 PM
| DN> To: CF-Talk
| DN> Subject: Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!
|
| DN> Is your mail server running on the same machine as the script?
| DN> [Dave] Yes.  CFMX server is on LOCALHOST, using 127.0.0.1 (my local
| DN> machine) as the mail server.
| DN> Is your mail server set to do open relays?
| DN> [Dave] Yes, allow all.
|
| DN> What mail server do you have set in CF Administrator?
| DN> [Dave] I have 127.0.0.1 set in CF Administrator.
| DN> Is your mail server sending mail only from your script, or relaying
| for
| DN> someone
| DN> else?
| DN> [Dave] Only from the script.  Keep in mind all of the mails get sent
| DN> eventually -- the only issue is why some of then only get sent after
| I
| DN> reboot (as if, say, it stops at 300 e-mails when originally ran,
| then
| DN> when I reboot my computer, and thus CFMX, it sends the rest).
|
| DN> NOTE:  I am using the CFMX Server developer version that comes with
| DN> Macromedia Studio.  Maybe this issue is specific to that?
|
| DN> I am not really clear on what you are asking here, , I guess you can
| see
| DN> that,
| DN> huh?
|
| DN> =
| DN> Douglas White
| DN> group Manager
| DN> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| DN> http://www.samcfug.org
| DN> =
| DN> - Original Message -
| DN> From: "David Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| DN> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| DN> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:49 PM
| DN> Subject: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!
|
|
| DN> | Hi all:
| DN> |
| DN> | Has anyone seen behavior like this?
| DN> |
| DN> | I have a script on localhost that pulls e-mails from an Access
| DN> database,
| DN> | then loops over and sends a message to each e-mail address (over
| 500
| DN> | addresses) using 127.0.0.1.  The e-mail gets sent fine and all is
| DN> good,
| DN> | but days later when I reboot my computer for whatever reason, when
| the
| DN> | computer comes back up I noticed that many more e-mails had just
| been
| DN> | sent (I know this because I start getting a bunch of bouncebacks
| for
| DN> the
| DN> | invalid addresses).
| DN> |
| DN> | This leads me to believe that when I actually run the script, not
| all
| DN> | the e-mails get sent and it hangs for some reason (maybe?), and
| then
| DN> | when I reboot, it retriggers something and the rest of the mails
| get
| DN> | sent out?
| DN> |
| DN> | Does the CFMX mail component choke when there's a lot of messages
| in
| DN> the
| DN> | CFMX\Mail\Spool folder?

CF Developer Directory?

[Jim McAtee]

Does anyone publish a good, searchable, ColdFusion developer directory.  We were
contacted recently by a potential client, but are too busy to handle their needs
at the moment.  He's looking for a local developer, and I could only think of a
couple of other shops that he might try.

Thanks,
Jim

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RE: Help please!

[Mike Brunt]

Ryan, glad to see you found that problem and yes to answer your question you
need to lock all Writing and Reading of Application, Server and Session
variables otherwise eventually you will experience problems and they will
unexpected, unpredictable and very debilitating.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
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-Original Message-
From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Help please!


Do I need to lock them (don¹t know much about this!)?
I've fixed the problem, it was as easy as a space left out.. Oops I should
have checked! thanks anyways.

On another note, how do you return whether the email has an attachment or
not? I've tried using isDefined() and also if attachement is not '' but to
no avail!!

Ryan


On 9/12/02 20:03, "Mike Brunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ryan a couple of things, are you locking the cfpop code where you are
> reading Session vars or move them to the request scope if you do not want
to
> lock them and secondly what do you get if you cfdump the query recordset
> prior to the Query of a Query?
>
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> Webapper
> Blog http://www.webapper.net
> Web site http://www.webapper.com
> Downey CA Office
> 562.243.6255
> AIM - webappermb
>
> Web Application Specialists
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Help please!
>
>
> I have the following query
>
>  username=#Session.MM_User# password=#Session.MM_Pwd#>
>
> And im doing a query of a query in order to order it by latest first
>
> 
> SELECT * FROM GetMessages
> ORDER BY UID DESC
> 
>
> And this worked fine till 10 mins ago, but now I get this error
>
> Query Manipulation Error Code = 0
>
> Invalid SQL
>
> Both when there are messages and when there arent!
>
> Can anyone shed any light on this?
> Ryan
>
>
>

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RE: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

[David Notik]

It seems as if it's being stuck in the CF mail spool
(c:\cfusionmx\mail\spool) -- I use IIS as my mail server.  Pretty simple
setup.

The only reason I assume it's getting stuck is because, like I said, all
is fine but then the next time I reboot my computer I notice that it
sends out a bunch of e-mails -- so it leads me to believe things got
stuck when I originally ran the script to send all the e-mails and now
that I've rebooted, it triggered the remaining ones and sent them off.

Make sense?

--D

-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

CFMX can handle quite a few emails in it's spool without choking, I
haven't bumped against a limit so far. I also haven't specifically seen
this kind of behavior, but if the cf server spool process got confused
somehow, it might cause such behavior.
I've noticed that MX's spool keeps an internal counter of some kind,
and if you copy an email out of the spool, let MX send it, and copy it
back again it doesn't get sent.

Are the emails getting stuck in the CF spool or the mail server spool,
if it's the mail server spool, which mail server are you running?

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, December 9, 2002, 6:07:20 PM, you wrote:
DN> See below.  Anybody else have any ideas?

DN> --D

DN> -Original Message-
DN> From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
DN> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:45 PM
DN> To: CF-Talk
DN> Subject: Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

DN> Is your mail server running on the same machine as the script?
DN> [Dave] Yes.  CFMX server is on LOCALHOST, using 127.0.0.1 (my local
DN> machine) as the mail server.
DN> Is your mail server set to do open relays?
DN> [Dave] Yes, allow all.

DN> What mail server do you have set in CF Administrator?
DN> [Dave] I have 127.0.0.1 set in CF Administrator.
DN> Is your mail server sending mail only from your script, or relaying
for
DN> someone
DN> else?
DN> [Dave] Only from the script.  Keep in mind all of the mails get sent
DN> eventually -- the only issue is why some of then only get sent after
I
DN> reboot (as if, say, it stops at 300 e-mails when originally ran,
then
DN> when I reboot my computer, and thus CFMX, it sends the rest).

DN> NOTE:  I am using the CFMX Server developer version that comes with
DN> Macromedia Studio.  Maybe this issue is specific to that?

DN> I am not really clear on what you are asking here, , I guess you can
see
DN> that,
DN> huh?

DN> =
DN> Douglas White
DN> group Manager
DN> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DN> http://www.samcfug.org
DN> =
DN> - Original Message -
DN> From: "David Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DN> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DN> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:49 PM
DN> Subject: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!


DN> | Hi all:
DN> |
DN> | Has anyone seen behavior like this?
DN> |
DN> | I have a script on localhost that pulls e-mails from an Access
DN> database,
DN> | then loops over and sends a message to each e-mail address (over
500
DN> | addresses) using 127.0.0.1.  The e-mail gets sent fine and all is
DN> good,
DN> | but days later when I reboot my computer for whatever reason, when
the
DN> | computer comes back up I noticed that many more e-mails had just
been
DN> | sent (I know this because I start getting a bunch of bouncebacks
for
DN> the
DN> | invalid addresses).
DN> |
DN> | This leads me to believe that when I actually run the script, not
all
DN> | the e-mails get sent and it hangs for some reason (maybe?), and
then
DN> | when I reboot, it retriggers something and the rest of the mails
get
DN> | sent out?
DN> |
DN> | Does the CFMX mail component choke when there's a lot of messages
in
DN> the
DN> | CFMX\Mail\Spool folder?  I know CFMX never stopped working so it
DN> doesn't
DN> | completely hose, but maybe the mail part is?
DN> |
DN> | I don't know.  Anyone have any clues?
DN> |
DN> | --D
DN> |


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instant SSL HELP!!!!!

[Tony Weeg]

hello list.

big problem.

i am posting to an asp page on a site that returns
back an xml feed. my http post worked 100% fine until
the client on the other end decided to change their security
cert from a thawte cert to an Instant SSL cert.  same encryption
just different issuer.  has anyone using cfmx and http post's
seen this issue before? my cfhttp dump is simply "Connection Failure"

thanks, this is about 2 weeks from completion, NOT NICE!

thanks again.

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RE: HELP with SQL

[Matthew Walker]

Try verifying all your datasources in CF admin. If they all fail, open
Control Panel > Administrative tools > services and check ColdFusion MX
ODBC Server is running.

Matthew Walker
ESW
http://www.electricsheep.co.nz/

> -Original Message-
> From: Rebecca Joy Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:28 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: HELP with SQL
> 
> 
> HELP, I keep getting this error.  on the CFMX administrator:
> 
> 
> 
> Connection verification failed for data source: contacts
> []java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool 
> while attempting 
> to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other 
> connectivity info.
> The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException 
> occurred in 
> JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your 
> username, password, 
> URL, and other connectivity info.
> 
> 
> Joy
> 
> 
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Verity Limits (once more into the breach)

[UXBinfo]

Hi,

Once again here is what should be and most likely is a simple question about
Verity.  We are planning a project where all relevant data will reside in a
database.  In the past we have used Verity to offer search functionality for
projects of this type.  However most of those were simple 1,000 to 8,000
record databases.  This project will support on average over 1.5 million
records and could get as high as 10 million records.

What I am trying to ascertain is the limits of an indexed verity collection
using the cfsearch tag and I have found these items on the macromedia web
site:

== [ cut here ]==
CF4.5
ColdFusion 4.5 comes bundled with a custom implementation of the Verity97
search engine...

Collections Limits

There is no set limit to the size of Verity collections. The hardware and
RAM of the index server also affect its performance.

CFSEARCH Limits

CFSEARCH cannot return a result set greater than 64K. This simply means if
you have a large enough collection and your search terms are broad enough,
you will hit this limit and an error will be thrown. A best practice would
be to catch the error and inform the user that he or she needs to narrow his
or her search terms.


CF5.0
The restricted version of K2 Server installed with ColdFusion has document
search limits as follows: 125,000 documents (ColdFusion Professional) and
250,000 documents (ColdFusion Enterprise). Macromedia Spectra sites have a
limit of 750,000 documents.

== [ cut here ]==

Keeping in mind that we are searching Verity collections from database
queries and NOT files, my questions are:

1) In CF 4.X does the 64K CFSEARCH limit mean all data returned in the
Custom1, custom2, key, Title and summary fields cannot exceed 64K
regardless?  Does the maxrow setting negate this limitation?  Since the
summary field returns 500Bytes per record this would tell me that cfsearch
can only return approximately 128 records per search. We routinely have
searches (CF4.X) that return 2 to 4 times that amount with out error.  Can
some one explain what I am misunderstanding?

2) Does cfsearch in CF5 have the same limitations?

3) In CF5 does the limitations of 125,000/Pro and 250,000?enterprise
documents apply for indexing/searching database records? Can I only index
125,000 or 250,000 records (Pro/Enterprise)?

4) What other limitations in the verity implementation in CF5 are there that
we should be aware of?





Best regards,

Dennis Powers
UXB Internet - A Web Design and Hosting Company
tel: (203)879-2844  fax: (203)879-6254
http://www.uxbinternet.com/
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HELP with SQL

[Rebecca Joy Sherman]

HELP, I keep getting this error.  on the CFMX administrator:



Connection verification failed for data source: contacts
[]java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting 
to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other 
connectivity info.
The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in 
JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, password, 
URL, and other connectivity info.


Joy

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RE: Macromedia Contribute

[Mike Brunt]

Another point in all of this, there is a lot more to a large web application
than just the code.  Networks, Routers, Firewalls, DB Servers, Environments,
OS's etc etc.  We offer very broad-based business solutions that cover all
aspects of making web-based applications work and in that way have been able
to remain effective as tools and methods evolve.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
Webapper
Blog http://www.webapper.net
Web site http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255
AIM - webappermb

Web Application Specialists


-Original Message-
From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia Contribute


On 12/9/02, Matt Brown penned:
>Matt Brown here. I am the community manager for CT and Dreamweaver.
>
>I think you sum up the product really well in this paragraph. CT is
>designed to take away the simple and silly things that need changing, not
>the big updates and design changes. What our target customers tell us is
>that they are going to do more with the web if they can have more input for
>the contributors. OTOH, CT is not a CMS really, it doesn't do strict
>approvals, it does not do time based publishing, it does not put data into
>a database, it really only works with static pages. I think there is a good
>niche for it in many many workflows, but not all. I also think that it is
>going to get you more work not less over time because people are going to
>really want to do more once they can do some...

Yeah. Anyone can go out and buy Dreamweaver for less than they pay me
to build their website, but I haven't run out of work yet. :) Just
because they have a tool, doesn't mean they'll be able to use it for
much more than menial tasks. And even with the backup/rollback
features, I can guarantee that I'll now have customers calling and
saying "Um, Bud. I got this thing called Contribute, and now I've
destroyed my website. Can you help?" :-D
--

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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
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Re: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?

[samcfug]

My question is what are you going to do with all that data?  Output it to a web
page?

If that is the case you may be butting your head against the wall.

Assuming that is the case a max of 50-100 rows per page should be the max, with
the lower number getting you a faster response. and at the bottom of each page
place a button to view the next n rows of data. This is how your search engines
do it.

You could have all the RAM in the world, and if 100 or 1000 connections all
requested 5000 rows will bring any server to its knees.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: "Gaulin, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?


| I would look for queries that could potentially return a very large number
| of rows. Since queries are completely loaded into memory as part of cfquery,
| it doesn't take much to grab tons of RAM that way.
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Jeremy Bruck - MfgQuote, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:24 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?
|
|
| Everyone,
|
| We have had a challenge for the last 2 months with no ability to track it
| down and solve it.  We are running CF 5 on Win2K with Dual P3 @ 1Ghz and
| 1Gig of Ram.  We normally only use about 400-500 meg of ram, but once to
| twice per week right now we are filling up memory to 2.5ish gig and
| massively pagefiling.  Database is on another server with same hardware
| config.
|
| We can't restart the CF service when this happens, and the only way to deal
| with it is to reboot the box.
|
| Part of me thinks the problems is overall load on the box -- average of
| 8000 to 1 unique visitors on the site per day and this doesn't include
| 500ish members on the system hammering it.
|
| Are there any tools to know what is using up the pagefile memory on Win2k?
|
| Any ideas what could be causing CF to eat up that much memory?
|
| Thanks,
| Jeremy
|
|
| Jeremy Bruck, VP of Technology
| ::MfgQuote
| 2690 Cumberland Parkway SE
| Suite 510
| Atlanta, GA  30339
| TEL:   678.556.2929
| FAX:  678.556.2980
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Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

[jon hall]

CFMX can handle quite a few emails in it's spool without choking, I
haven't bumped against a limit so far. I also haven't specifically seen
this kind of behavior, but if the cf server spool process got confused
somehow, it might cause such behavior.
I've noticed that MX's spool keeps an internal counter of some kind,
and if you copy an email out of the spool, let MX send it, and copy it
back again it doesn't get sent.

Are the emails getting stuck in the CF spool or the mail server spool,
if it's the mail server spool, which mail server are you running?

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, December 9, 2002, 6:07:20 PM, you wrote:
DN> See below.  Anybody else have any ideas?

DN> --D

DN> -Original Message-
DN> From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
DN> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:45 PM
DN> To: CF-Talk
DN> Subject: Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

DN> Is your mail server running on the same machine as the script?
DN> [Dave] Yes.  CFMX server is on LOCALHOST, using 127.0.0.1 (my local
DN> machine) as the mail server.
DN> Is your mail server set to do open relays?
DN> [Dave] Yes, allow all.

DN> What mail server do you have set in CF Administrator?
DN> [Dave] I have 127.0.0.1 set in CF Administrator.
DN> Is your mail server sending mail only from your script, or relaying for
DN> someone
DN> else?
DN> [Dave] Only from the script.  Keep in mind all of the mails get sent
DN> eventually -- the only issue is why some of then only get sent after I
DN> reboot (as if, say, it stops at 300 e-mails when originally ran, then
DN> when I reboot my computer, and thus CFMX, it sends the rest).

DN> NOTE:  I am using the CFMX Server developer version that comes with
DN> Macromedia Studio.  Maybe this issue is specific to that?

DN> I am not really clear on what you are asking here, , I guess you can see
DN> that,
DN> huh?

DN> =
DN> Douglas White
DN> group Manager
DN> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DN> http://www.samcfug.org
DN> =
DN> - Original Message -
DN> From: "David Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DN> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DN> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:49 PM
DN> Subject: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!


DN> | Hi all:
DN> |
DN> | Has anyone seen behavior like this?
DN> |
DN> | I have a script on localhost that pulls e-mails from an Access
DN> database,
DN> | then loops over and sends a message to each e-mail address (over 500
DN> | addresses) using 127.0.0.1.  The e-mail gets sent fine and all is
DN> good,
DN> | but days later when I reboot my computer for whatever reason, when the
DN> | computer comes back up I noticed that many more e-mails had just been
DN> | sent (I know this because I start getting a bunch of bouncebacks for
DN> the
DN> | invalid addresses).
DN> |
DN> | This leads me to believe that when I actually run the script, not all
DN> | the e-mails get sent and it hangs for some reason (maybe?), and then
DN> | when I reboot, it retriggers something and the rest of the mails get
DN> | sent out?
DN> |
DN> | Does the CFMX mail component choke when there's a lot of messages in
DN> the
DN> | CFMX\Mail\Spool folder?  I know CFMX never stopped working so it
DN> doesn't
DN> | completely hose, but maybe the mail part is?
DN> |
DN> | I don't know.  Anyone have any clues?
DN> |
DN> | --D
DN> |

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RE: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

[David Notik]

See below.  Anybody else have any ideas?

--D

-Original Message-
From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

Is your mail server running on the same machine as the script?
[Dave] Yes.  CFMX server is on LOCALHOST, using 127.0.0.1 (my local
machine) as the mail server.
Is your mail server set to do open relays?
[Dave] Yes, allow all.

What mail server do you have set in CF Administrator?
[Dave] I have 127.0.0.1 set in CF Administrator.
Is your mail server sending mail only from your script, or relaying for
someone
else?
[Dave] Only from the script.  Keep in mind all of the mails get sent
eventually -- the only issue is why some of then only get sent after I
reboot (as if, say, it stops at 300 e-mails when originally ran, then
when I reboot my computer, and thus CFMX, it sends the rest).

NOTE:  I am using the CFMX Server developer version that comes with
Macromedia Studio.  Maybe this issue is specific to that?

I am not really clear on what you are asking here, , I guess you can see
that,
huh?

=
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group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: "David Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!


| Hi all:
|
| Has anyone seen behavior like this?
|
| I have a script on localhost that pulls e-mails from an Access
database,
| then loops over and sends a message to each e-mail address (over 500
| addresses) using 127.0.0.1.  The e-mail gets sent fine and all is
good,
| but days later when I reboot my computer for whatever reason, when the
| computer comes back up I noticed that many more e-mails had just been
| sent (I know this because I start getting a bunch of bouncebacks for
the
| invalid addresses).
|
| This leads me to believe that when I actually run the script, not all
| the e-mails get sent and it hangs for some reason (maybe?), and then
| when I reboot, it retriggers something and the rest of the mails get
| sent out?
|
| Does the CFMX mail component choke when there's a lot of messages in
the
| CFMX\Mail\Spool folder?  I know CFMX never stopped working so it
doesn't
| completely hose, but maybe the mail part is?
|
| I don't know.  Anyone have any clues?
|
| --D
|
| ###
| David Notik
| Digital202, LLC
| Imagination gone digital.
| Web:   www.digital202.com
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| Office: (206) 575-1717
| Mobile: (206) 351-3948
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Re: Macromedia Contribute

[Bud]

On 12/9/02, Matt Brown penned:
>Matt Brown here. I am the community manager for CT and Dreamweaver.
>
>I think you sum up the product really well in this paragraph. CT is
>designed to take away the simple and silly things that need changing, not
>the big updates and design changes. What our target customers tell us is
>that they are going to do more with the web if they can have more input for
>the contributors. OTOH, CT is not a CMS really, it doesn't do strict
>approvals, it does not do time based publishing, it does not put data into
>a database, it really only works with static pages. I think there is a good
>niche for it in many many workflows, but not all. I also think that it is
>going to get you more work not less over time because people are going to
>really want to do more once they can do some...

Yeah. Anyone can go out and buy Dreamweaver for less than they pay me 
to build their website, but I haven't run out of work yet. :) Just 
because they have a tool, doesn't mean they'll be able to use it for 
much more than menial tasks. And even with the backup/rollback 
features, I can guarantee that I'll now have customers calling and 
saying "Um, Bud. I got this thing called Contribute, and now I've 
destroyed my website. Can you help?" :-D
-- 

Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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Re[2]: Verity's vspider on Solaris.

[joachim . piro]

Hello Sean,

Monday, December 9, 2002, 9:22:22 PM, you wrote:

thanks for the tip but...
I think it's more of an install issue or something..
I'll see how it goes and let ya know.


Joachim



SM> I have 0 experience with solaris.  But my guess is your collection is
SM> corrupt I would go in stop the k2 service...delete the collection...start
SM> service and recreate collection.  Then try spidering it again.

SM> hope that helps

SM> sean

SM> -Original Message-
SM> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
SM> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:50 PM
SM> To: CF-Talk
SM> Subject: Verity's vspider on Solaris.


SM> Hi folks,

SM> I'm starting to loose my mind on this one so suggestions/clues are more then
SM> welcome...

SM> Solaris 2.6
SM> Coldfusion 5

SM> I'm trying to get Verity's vspider up and running but for
SM> some reason it keeps failing.
SM> I've set -loglevel to trace but those logfiles don't
SM> show anything more usefull either (other than the error msgs below).

SM> Here's the script/result/error:
SM> 
/home/scripts >> /opt/coldfusion/verity/_ssol26/bin/vspider -cmdfile
SM> spider_script_en
SM> - Verity, Inc. Version 3.7 (_solaris, Nov 15 1998)
SM> Info  2002/12/09 17:00:51 (ind006000) Message database loaded from
SM> [/opt/coldfusion/verity/_ssol26/bin/ind.msg].
SM> Info  2002/12/09 17:00:51 (ind012207) Last indexing job was interrupted
SM> 5 time(s).  Running in auto-restart mode.
SM> FATAL 2002/12/09 17:00:51 (ind002000) Couldn't create VDK session [-10].
SM> IndExcept from /users/qk2v220/BLD11/src/spider/ind/indvdk.cxx:434
SM> vspider done
SM> 

SM> Looking up the error codes
SM> VdkError_BadArgStruct  (-10)  Invalid argument structure.
SM> http://www-2.cv.ihk.dk/cfdocs/Advanced_ColdFusion_Administration/verityutils
SM> 9.html

SM> But the odd thing is is that if I run the exact same script
SM> on another Solaris machine it works like a charm.

SM> As far as I can tell it doesn't have anything todo with the script itself,
SM> even with a
SM> basic set of options it keeps failing. I'm starting to think this is
SM> more of a install/config related problem but i'm far from smart enough when
SM> it
SM> comes to Solaris to figure out what could wrong.


SM> Any help is appreciated!

SM> Joachim
SM> http://www.developer.be/


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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

But you would still have one CFC that would be using only cfreturn,
whereas another CFC would handle taking the result and displaying it,
correct? In that regards, you would (or could have) built the lower CFC
in such a way so that it would not only work with the higher CFC caller,
but also a flash or WS caller. Again, I'm just saying that it _may_ be
best to plan for the future and _default_ to not outputting directly,
that way if you do change your mind later, you aren't going to have to
recode a bunch of crap. Also, I have not seen the speed differences you
mentioned earlier. What kind of #s are you seeing? (Rough is fine.)

===
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> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> 
> Not in MVC. In MVC the model, the view, and the controller 
> are all separate objects. It is certainly valid to use a CFC 
> to represent each of these pieces and as such there is no 
> calling template.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:30 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > 
> > Does this back up what I said though? If you break away the display
> from
> > the logic used to generate it, wouldn't the display be left to the 
> > calling template and not the CFC? Ie, for the method, um, whatever,
> the
> > method would return a string and the caller would handle outputting,
> or
> > perhaps saving it to a file, whatever, the point is that the CFC 
> > wouldn't output, it would just return the result. The caller would 
> > handle the result.
> > 
> >
> ==
> =
> > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> > 
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> > Yahoo IM : morpheus
> > 
> > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kevin Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > >
> > >
> > > Think we should listen to Matt on this one ... 3 letters 
> for dealing 
> > > with
> > > cfcs: MVC (Model - View - Controller) ... learn it, live it, love
> it.
> > >
> > > Kevin Bridges
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:09 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > >
> > > The logic used to derive those results should be 
> decoupled from the 
> > > display.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

Not in MVC. In MVC the model, the view, and the controller are all
separate objects. It is certainly valid to use a CFC to represent each
of these pieces and as such there is no calling template.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:30 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> Does this back up what I said though? If you break away the display
from
> the logic used to generate it, wouldn't the display be left to the
> calling template and not the CFC? Ie, for the method, um, whatever,
the
> method would return a string and the caller would handle outputting,
or
> perhaps saving it to a file, whatever, the point is that the CFC
> wouldn't output, it would just return the result. The caller would
> handle the result.
> 
>
===
> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> Yahoo IM : morpheus
> 
> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFC output
> >
> >
> > Think we should listen to Matt on this one ... 3 letters for
> > dealing with
> > cfcs: MVC (Model - View - Controller) ... learn it, live it, love
it.
> >
> > Kevin Bridges
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:09 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFC output
> >
> > The logic used to derive those results should be decoupled
> > from the display.
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Help please!

[Ryan Mitchell]

Do I need to lock them (don¹t know much about this!)?
I've fixed the problem, it was as easy as a space left out.. Oops I should
have checked! thanks anyways.

On another note, how do you return whether the email has an attachment or
not? I've tried using isDefined() and also if attachement is not '' but to
no avail!!

Ryan


On 9/12/02 20:03, "Mike Brunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ryan a couple of things, are you locking the cfpop code where you are
> reading Session vars or move them to the request scope if you do not want to
> lock them and secondly what do you get if you cfdump the query recordset
> prior to the Query of a Query?
> 
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> Webapper
> Blog http://www.webapper.net
> Web site http://www.webapper.com
> Downey CA Office
> 562.243.6255
> AIM - webappermb
> 
> Web Application Specialists
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Help please!
> 
> 
> I have the following query
> 
>  username=#Session.MM_User# password=#Session.MM_Pwd#>
> 
> And im doing a query of a query in order to order it by latest first
> 
> 
> SELECT * FROM GetMessages
> ORDER BY UID DESC
> 
> 
> And this worked fine till 10 mins ago, but now I get this error
> 
> Query Manipulation Error Code = 0
> 
> Invalid SQL
> 
> Both when there are messages and when there arent!
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on this?
> Ryan
> 
> 
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RE: Warning: Page has Expired

[Jared Clinton]

If you have ever used Spectra: PLP (process logic path) actually handles
where you are in the process and will not let you proceed/return until
finished.  

It would be easy to implement outside of spectra if somebody wanted to spend
the time and make it free (Im sure lots of people already model process and
control them by database state tracking).

Anyways, 
Jared.



-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 9:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Warning: Page has Expired


To keep people from filling out a form, clicking submit, hitting back
and clicking submit again. You'd be surprised how many people do that.

And I believe you're right, the only way you get the expired message is
if you click back after submitting a form, but that's reason enough for
me. 

However I'd trade it in for a good "If BACK was clicked restart this
process from page X" function. It's probably possible using some
JavaScript, just haven't tried that yet.

Thanks,

Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Warning: Page has Expired


AFAIK:

To get the page has expired message, you have to have posted information
from a form submission.  

But why would you want to?


Jared Clinton.

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Warning: Page has Expired


I have no doubt that this is a no brainer but I can't seem to find the
answer. I've tried setting the expiration in the meta tag but it doesn't
seem to give me the result I want.

I want a page to expire if it is either refreshed or if someone tries to
hit the back button to see the page. How would I go about that? I would
like to invoke that standard page that we've all seen before with
"Warning: Page has Expired".

Thanks

-Jason


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RE: Warning: Page has Expired

[Joshua Miller]

To keep people from filling out a form, clicking submit, hitting back
and clicking submit again. You'd be surprised how many people do that.

And I believe you're right, the only way you get the expired message is
if you click back after submitting a form, but that's reason enough for
me. 

However I'd trade it in for a good "If BACK was clicked restart this
process from page X" function. It's probably possible using some
JavaScript, just haven't tried that yet.

Thanks,

Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
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-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Warning: Page has Expired


AFAIK:

To get the page has expired message, you have to have posted information
from a form submission.  

But why would you want to?


Jared Clinton.

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Warning: Page has Expired


I have no doubt that this is a no brainer but I can't seem to find the
answer. I've tried setting the expiration in the meta tag but it doesn't
seem to give me the result I want.

I want a page to expire if it is either refreshed or if someone tries to
hit the back button to see the page. How would I go about that? I would
like to invoke that standard page that we've all seen before with
"Warning: Page has Expired".

Thanks

-Jason

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RE: access odbc connection

[Steve Dworman]

Got it.

-Original Message-
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

Yes, but I mean map the remote drive to a local drive letter.  (sorry, but I
might not be using the correct terminology).

\\othercomputer\c$ is mapped to j: locally(cfserver).  So the cfserver would
have a mapped drive, j:, which is actually c: on the other computer.

Can someone verify this is the proper way to accomplish what Steve is trying
to do?

I searched the macromedia forums but couldn't find it.  I could have sworn I
saw this somewhere though.

I'll try locally and email shortly.


-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

CF will only read local drives.  I'm positive you have to use the UNC path.

-Original Message-
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

I believe you have to map the drive rather than use a unc.  I might be wrong
though.

Matthew P. Smith 
Web Developer, Object Oriented 
Naval Education & Training Professional 
Development & Technology Center 
(NETPDTC) 
(850)452-1001 ext. 1245 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: access odbc connection

Here's the deal.
 
We need to connect to an access database that resides on another server.  I
know to use the UNC path, and to make sure the ColdFusion service has rights
to open the database on the other machine.  There is no username and
password for the database.
 
The issue is that CF cannot verify the data source.  I can set it up in
Windows 2000 server and I can connect to it using SQLCon32.  What else do I
need to do in order to make CF verify the connection?
 
 
TIA
 
Steven D Dworman
Macromedia Certified Developer
-
Web Consultant
Systems Administrator
 
ComSpec International - http://www.comspecinternational.com
 
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RE: Warning: Page has Expired

[Joshua Miller]

This is what I use, seems to work pretty well. I put it into an include
file and use it in the header of all the pages I serve up that require
cache control.

I belive this was from someone else on the list from not too long ago:


















 







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-Original Message-
From: Jared Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Warning: Page has Expired


AFAIK:

To get the page has expired message, you have to have posted information
from a form submission.  

But why would you want to?


Jared Clinton.

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Warning: Page has Expired


I have no doubt that this is a no brainer but I can't seem to find the
answer. I've tried setting the expiration in the meta tag but it doesn't
seem to give me the result I want.

I want a page to expire if it is either refreshed or if someone tries to
hit the back button to see the page. How would I go about that? I would
like to invoke that standard page that we've all seen before with
"Warning: Page has Expired".

Thanks

-Jason

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RE: access odbc connection

[Steve Dworman]

CF administrator doesn't read network drives even if they are mapped
locally.

-Original Message-
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

Yes, but I mean map the remote drive to a local drive letter.  (sorry, but I
might not be using the correct terminology).

\\othercomputer\c$ is mapped to j: locally(cfserver).  So the cfserver would
have a mapped drive, j:, which is actually c: on the other computer.

Can someone verify this is the proper way to accomplish what Steve is trying
to do?

I searched the macromedia forums but couldn't find it.  I could have sworn I
saw this somewhere though.

I'll try locally and email shortly.


-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

CF will only read local drives.  I'm positive you have to use the UNC path.

-Original Message-
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

I believe you have to map the drive rather than use a unc.  I might be wrong
though.

Matthew P. Smith 
Web Developer, Object Oriented 
Naval Education & Training Professional 
Development & Technology Center 
(NETPDTC) 
(850)452-1001 ext. 1245 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: access odbc connection

Here's the deal.
 
We need to connect to an access database that resides on another server.  I
know to use the UNC path, and to make sure the ColdFusion service has rights
to open the database on the other machine.  There is no username and
password for the database.
 
The issue is that CF cannot verify the data source.  I can set it up in
Windows 2000 server and I can connect to it using SQLCon32.  What else do I
need to do in order to make CF verify the connection?
 
 
TIA
 
Steven D Dworman
Macromedia Certified Developer
-
Web Consultant
Systems Administrator
 
ComSpec International - http://www.comspecinternational.com
 
phone: 248.647.8841
cell:  248.767.9925
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RE: Macromedia Contribute

[Joshua Miller]

This is exactly my point - I've seen ActivEdit before and it's a
fabulous product, and this is what I had assumed Contribute is - just a
desktop-only version. And yes, you're right, JAVA Applets probably
aren't the best method. I have yet to find a product like ActivEdit that
works well on say a MAC running Mozilla (granted I haven't used your 3.0
product). I was merely stating that it would be nice to see our software
vendor make a plugin solution for this niche. Although, perhaps not so
nice for the folks at CFDev ;)

>From my experience, albeit not as much as many of you on the list, when
I toss in a product like the SiteObjects editor into a customer's site,
they love it. They can make the small, text-based changes that they want
to make, I don't have to deal with minor text modifications or even
adding photographs or links and they save money. It's not really a
matter of taking money out of your pocket unless you live by small
static HTML changes - if you do then I see your concern, but a desktop
application that can be used without your knowledge, input or assistance
would scare me more than something web-based that you setup and
implement for them (like ActivEdit). From my experience, when you give
customers tools to make their lives easier and that save them time and
money, they come back to you for the dynamic stuff that we all love to
build.

Anyway, my original post was more of a cry for something like ActivEdit
that would be official "Macromedia Software" that would work across
multiple browsers and platforms. I guess I should just look into
ActivEdit and keep my mouth shut about Macromedia making their own.

Again, I'm still lost as to how anyone would lose money because of
Contribute any more than they would with something like FrontPage or
Dreamweaver or ActivEdit for that matter. If someone wants to maintain a
static HTML site with an extremely litmited toolset more power to them.
That's sort of like being worried by pen manufacturers because you're a
writer - true some people will write themselves, but if they want
professional quality then they'll need to consult a professional.

Anyway, this is pretty OT at this point and probably belongs on another
list. Sorry for starting an OT thread.

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-Original Message-
From: Pete Freitag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Contribute


>Wouldn't it be nice to make Contribute a Java application that could be

>integrated into an existing web-application to give this kind of 
>power/control to us developers so that we could hand it out to whoever 
>needs to use it - and have it be web-based so as not to have to 
>maintain software installations on multiple users' machines?

>Just a thought. At $99 it's a good deal, but it would be more useful if

>it would run on the web.

Actually we have such an application, ActivEdit
(http://www.cfdev.com/activedit/) in the latest version it includes a
Java Applet WYSIWYG Editor, and it starts at $99 as well. Granted it
doesn't have all the features that contribute has.

But I think your overestimating how well Java Applets work across the
board. There are big issues when it comes to getting Java Applets
working on Mac (mainly the LiveConnect API isn't implemented fully on
Mac OSX browsers). Applets do work quite well on Windows, and reasonably
well on Linux however.

I can relate to Macromedia Contribute undercutting many of their
customers, I don't think its helping their popularity with the
development community. However customers that don't want to be tied to
desktop software, and installation issues I think will still go for a
web based WYSIWYG editor/content manager.

_
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RE: Warning: Page has Expired

[Jared Clinton]

AFAIK:

To get the page has expired message, you have to have posted information
from a form submission.  

But why would you want to?


Jared Clinton.

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 8:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Warning: Page has Expired


I have no doubt that this is a no brainer but I can't seem to find the
answer. I've tried setting the expiration in the meta tag but it doesn't
seem to give me the result I want.

I want a page to expire if it is either refreshed or if someone tries to
hit the back button to see the page. How would I go about that? I would
like to invoke that standard page that we've all seen before with
"Warning: Page has Expired".

Thanks

-Jason
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RE: access odbc connection

[Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN)]

Yes, but I mean map the remote drive to a local drive letter.  (sorry, but I
might not be using the correct terminology).

\\othercomputer\c$ is mapped to j: locally(cfserver).  So the cfserver would
have a mapped drive, j:, which is actually c: on the other computer.

Can someone verify this is the proper way to accomplish what Steve is trying
to do?

I searched the macromedia forums but couldn't find it.  I could have sworn I
saw this somewhere though.

I'll try locally and email shortly.


-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

CF will only read local drives.  I'm positive you have to use the UNC path.

-Original Message-
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

I believe you have to map the drive rather than use a unc.  I might be wrong
though.

Matthew P. Smith 
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Naval Education & Training Professional 
Development & Technology Center 
(NETPDTC) 
(850)452-1001 ext. 1245 
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: access odbc connection

Here's the deal.
 
We need to connect to an access database that resides on another server.  I
know to use the UNC path, and to make sure the ColdFusion service has rights
to open the database on the other machine.  There is no username and
password for the database.
 
The issue is that CF cannot verify the data source.  I can set it up in
Windows 2000 server and I can connect to it using SQLCon32.  What else do I
need to do in order to make CF verify the connection?
 
 
TIA
 
Steven D Dworman
Macromedia Certified Developer
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Systems Administrator
 
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Warning: Page has Expired

[Stevens, Jason]

I have no doubt that this is a no brainer but I can't seem to find the
answer. I've tried setting the expiration in the meta tag but it doesn't
seem to give me the result I want.

I want a page to expire if it is either refreshed or if someone tries to
hit the back button to see the page. How would I go about that? I would
like to invoke that standard page that we've all seen before with
"Warning: Page has Expired".

Thanks

-Jason

RE: Macromedia Contribute

[Jeff Beer]

I'm thinking that Contribute offers a great opportunity for
install/configuration/training, with a good upsell for a full-featured,
custom CMS in some cases - either immediately or down the road.


-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Contribute


Depends on who we are talking about. Some business will be excited about
Contribute. Others will understand or find out the hard way that they
really need a CMS. Of course many are still finding out the hard way
that CMS is an often abused term and that home grown systems aren't
going to meet their future needs.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Macromedia Contribute
> 
> Actually, I don't see any difference other than where it runs. If you 
> can integrate it into your application and give your customer this
power
> from anywhere they've got a web connection then that's an added
service
> that's tied into their application and thus tied into you. If they can

> buy it for $99 at Staples and run it at home then why do they need to 
> pay you for a content management system?
> 
> Joshua Miller
> Head Programmer / IT Manager
> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:54 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Macromedia Contribute
> 
> 
> Personally, my answer to that is an emphatic NO.
> 
> Thats my job to build a system that my customers can use to do that.
If
> Macromedia becomes an end-user solutions provider it undercuts my
> business.
> 
> Contribute is fine as a generic and rather basic solution.  It has a
> fine niche and, speaking for myself, I hope it stays there.
> 
> ---
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> 
> -- Original Message --
> from: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:34:47 -0500
> 
> >Just got a snazzy tri-fold in the mail today about Macromedia
> >Contribute. It looks great, too bad it doesn't run on the web.
> >
> >Wouldn't it be nice to make Contribute a Java application that could
be
> 
> >integrated into an existing web-application to give this kind of
> >power/control to us developers so that we could hand it out to
whoever
> >needs to use it - and have it be web-based so as not to have to
> >maintain software installations on multiple users' machines?
> >
> >Just a thought. At $99 it's a good deal, but it would be more useful
if
> 
> >it would run on the web.
> >
> >My $0.02
> >
> >Joshua Miller
> >Head Programmer / IT Manager
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RE: access odbc connection

[Steve Dworman]

CF will only read local drives.  I'm positive you have to use the UNC path.

-Original Message-
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: access odbc connection

I believe you have to map the drive rather than use a unc.  I might be wrong
though.

Matthew P. Smith 
Web Developer, Object Oriented 
Naval Education & Training Professional 
Development & Technology Center 
(NETPDTC) 
(850)452-1001 ext. 1245 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: access odbc connection

Here's the deal.
 
We need to connect to an access database that resides on another server.  I
know to use the UNC path, and to make sure the ColdFusion service has rights
to open the database on the other machine.  There is no username and
password for the database.
 
The issue is that CF cannot verify the data source.  I can set it up in
Windows 2000 server and I can connect to it using SQLCon32.  What else do I
need to do in order to make CF verify the connection?
 
 
TIA
 
Steven D Dworman
Macromedia Certified Developer
-
Web Consultant
Systems Administrator
 
ComSpec International - http://www.comspecinternational.com
 
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RE: CFC output

[Raymond Camden]

Does this back up what I said though? If you break away the display from
the logic used to generate it, wouldn't the display be left to the
calling template and not the CFC? Ie, for the method, um, whatever, the
method would return a string and the caller would handle outputting, or
perhaps saving it to a file, whatever, the point is that the CFC
wouldn't output, it would just return the result. The caller would
handle the result.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> 
> Think we should listen to Matt on this one ... 3 letters for 
> dealing with
> cfcs: MVC (Model - View - Controller) ... learn it, live it, love it.
> 
> Kevin Bridges
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> The logic used to derive those results should be decoupled 
> from the display.
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RE: Large file uploads

[Matt Liotta]

Can't say I can. However like always, if there is enough demand I will
be happy to create and write an article on it.

Matt Liotta
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> -Original Message-
> From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:02 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Large file uploads
> 
> Can you recommend any servlets that work well and are free?
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Large file uploads
> 
> 
> I would suggest using a servlet to handle file uploads as you can
stream
> the file to disk.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Suzanne Capener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:25 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Large file uploads
> >
> > I have the same issue.  I don't like the answer of RAM because I am
> > running on a gigahertz with 768MB of ram.  While uploading the 10MB
> file,
> > the CPU maxed out at 100% for 2 minutes.  My physical memory usage
is
> only
> > have the capacity.
> >
> > Anyone have any suggestions?
> > Perhaps there is something that I am missing?
> >
> > Anyone tried any alternatives and found a more efficient solution?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Suz
> >
> > I did change my page file to another drive with more space and
> increased
> > it and found a significant increase in performance, but 2 minutes is
> still
> > too long for the CPU to spike. The page memory does not max out
> either.
> >
> > anyone worked out
> >
> 
> 
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RE: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?

[Gaulin, Mark]

I would look for queries that could potentially return a very large number
of rows. Since queries are completely loaded into memory as part of cfquery,
it doesn't take much to grab tons of RAM that way.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Bruck - MfgQuote, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?


Everyone,

We have had a challenge for the last 2 months with no ability to track it
down and solve it.  We are running CF 5 on Win2K with Dual P3 @ 1Ghz and
1Gig of Ram.  We normally only use about 400-500 meg of ram, but once to
twice per week right now we are filling up memory to 2.5ish gig and
massively pagefiling.  Database is on another server with same hardware
config.

We can't restart the CF service when this happens, and the only way to deal
with it is to reboot the box.

Part of me thinks the problems is overall load on the box -- average of
8000 to 1 unique visitors on the site per day and this doesn't include
500ish members on the system hammering it.

Are there any tools to know what is using up the pagefile memory on Win2k?

Any ideas what could be causing CF to eat up that much memory?

Thanks,
Jeremy


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RE: access odbc connection

[Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN)]

I believe you have to map the drive rather than use a unc.  I might be wrong
though.

Matthew P. Smith 
Web Developer, Object Oriented 
Naval Education & Training Professional 
Development & Technology Center 
(NETPDTC) 
(850)452-1001 ext. 1245 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Dworman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: access odbc connection

Here's the deal.
 
We need to connect to an access database that resides on another server.  I
know to use the UNC path, and to make sure the ColdFusion service has rights
to open the database on the other machine.  There is no username and
password for the database.
 
The issue is that CF cannot verify the data source.  I can set it up in
Windows 2000 server and I can connect to it using SQLCon32.  What else do I
need to do in order to make CF verify the connection?
 
 
TIA
 
Steven D Dworman
Macromedia Certified Developer
-
Web Consultant
Systems Administrator
 
ComSpec International - http://www.comspecinternational.com
 
phone: 248.647.8841
cell:  248.767.9925
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RE: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?

[Jared Clinton]

Jeremy,

I suggest that you learn how to use the 'perfmon.exe' application.  Using
perfmon you should be able to pinpoint what is going wrong (M$ only).  In my
experience it is likely to be a combination of CF and something
uncooperative.

Of course as Mike suggested below, always check your application and server
logs. Then there is all the locking discussion...(check the archives).  Then
there is the 'review your code' idea...

If you are experiencing a problem that is severely impacting your business,
I would suggest to hire a consultant so as to fix your problem.

Hope this helps a little,
Jared Clinton.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 6:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?


Jeremy, I would take a look at the ColdFusion error logs, particularly
Application and Server in that order.  See if you are getting error messages
and if so what are the most regular ones.  If you are seeing the string
"thread" or "threading" in either log that can be a sign of memory
corruption.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
Webapper
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Web site http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255
AIM - webappermb

Web Application Specialists


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Bruck - MfgQuote, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Page Filing massively... Ideas?


Everyone,

We have had a challenge for the last 2 months with no ability to track it
down and solve it.  We are running CF 5 on Win2K with Dual P3 @ 1Ghz and
1Gig of Ram.  We normally only use about 400-500 meg of ram, but once to
twice per week right now we are filling up memory to 2.5ish gig and
massively pagefiling.  Database is on another server with same hardware
config.

We can't restart the CF service when this happens, and the only way to deal
with it is to reboot the box.

Part of me thinks the problems is overall load on the box -- average of
8000 to 1 unique visitors on the site per day and this doesn't include
500ish members on the system hammering it.

Are there any tools to know what is using up the pagefile memory on Win2k?

Any ideas what could be causing CF to eat up that much memory?

Thanks,
Jeremy


Jeremy Bruck, VP of Technology
::MfgQuote
2690 Cumberland Parkway SE
Suite 510
Atlanta, GA  30339
TEL:   678.556.2929
FAX:  678.556.2980
www.mfgquote.com
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RE: Large file uploads

[Bosky, Dave]

Can you recommend any servlets that work well and are free?

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Large file uploads


I would suggest using a servlet to handle file uploads as you can stream
the file to disk.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Suzanne Capener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Large file uploads
> 
> I have the same issue.  I don't like the answer of RAM because I am
> running on a gigahertz with 768MB of ram.  While uploading the 10MB
file,
> the CPU maxed out at 100% for 2 minutes.  My physical memory usage is
only
> have the capacity.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions?
> Perhaps there is something that I am missing?
> 
> Anyone tried any alternatives and found a more efficient solution?
> 
> Thanks,
> Suz
> 
> I did change my page file to another drive with more space and
increased
> it and found a significant increase in performance, but 2 minutes is
still
> too long for the CPU to spike. The page memory does not max out
either.
> 
> anyone worked out
> 

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access odbc connection

[Steve Dworman]

Here's the deal.
 
We need to connect to an access database that resides on another server.  I
know to use the UNC path, and to make sure the ColdFusion service has rights
to open the database on the other machine.  There is no username and
password for the database.
 
The issue is that CF cannot verify the data source.  I can set it up in
Windows 2000 server and I can connect to it using SQLCon32.  What else do I
need to do in order to make CF verify the connection?
 
 
TIA
 
Steven D Dworman
Macromedia Certified Developer
-
Web Consultant
Systems Administrator
 
ComSpec International - http://www.comspecinternational.com
 
phone: 248.647.8841
cell:  248.767.9925
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Re: Macromedia Contribute

[Matt Brown]

>Point is in some cases - this will free up some time and allow you to
>create more important changes. While allowing clients text only changes,
>most often than not - an enthusiastic client, whom sees delay changes =
>happy web surfers - they commit to larger and more frequent updates and
>therefore increase my profits.

Matt Brown here. I am the community manager for CT and Dreamweaver.

I think you sum up the product really well in this paragraph. CT is 
designed to take away the simple and silly things that need changing, not 
the big updates and design changes. What our target customers tell us is 
that they are going to do more with the web if they can have more input for 
the contributors. OTOH, CT is not a CMS really, it doesn't do strict 
approvals, it does not do time based publishing, it does not put data into 
a database, it really only works with static pages. I think there is a good 
niche for it in many many workflows, but not all. I also think that it is 
going to get you more work not less over time because people are going to 
really want to do more once they can do some...

_

Matt Brown   Dreamweaver and Contribute Community Manager
Macromedia  (415) 706-6543   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Dreamweaver Blog:   http://shorterlink.com/?KB8LAL
Developer Resource Kit Volume 2: http://www.macromedia.com/software/drk/



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RE: Large file uploads

[Matt Liotta]

I would suggest using a servlet to handle file uploads as you can stream
the file to disk.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Suzanne Capener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Large file uploads
> 
> I have the same issue.  I don't like the answer of RAM because I am
> running on a gigahertz with 768MB of ram.  While uploading the 10MB
file,
> the CPU maxed out at 100% for 2 minutes.  My physical memory usage is
only
> have the capacity.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions?
> Perhaps there is something that I am missing?
> 
> Anyone tried any alternatives and found a more efficient solution?
> 
> Thanks,
> Suz
> 
> I did change my page file to another drive with more space and
increased
> it and found a significant increase in performance, but 2 minutes is
still
> too long for the CPU to spike. The page memory does not max out
either.
> 
> anyone worked out
> 
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Re: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!

[samcfug]

Is your mail server running on the same machine as the script?

Is your mail server set to do open relays?

What mail server do you have set in CF Administrator?

Is your mail server sending mail only from your script, or relaying for someone
else?

I am not really clear on what you are asking here, , I guess you can see that,
huh?

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: "David Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: CFMX - Mail Spooling Issue!


| Hi all:
|
| Has anyone seen behavior like this?
|
| I have a script on localhost that pulls e-mails from an Access database,
| then loops over and sends a message to each e-mail address (over 500
| addresses) using 127.0.0.1.  The e-mail gets sent fine and all is good,
| but days later when I reboot my computer for whatever reason, when the
| computer comes back up I noticed that many more e-mails had just been
| sent (I know this because I start getting a bunch of bouncebacks for the
| invalid addresses).
|
| This leads me to believe that when I actually run the script, not all
| the e-mails get sent and it hangs for some reason (maybe?), and then
| when I reboot, it retriggers something and the rest of the mails get
| sent out?
|
| Does the CFMX mail component choke when there's a lot of messages in the
| CFMX\Mail\Spool folder?  I know CFMX never stopped working so it doesn't
| completely hose, but maybe the mail part is?
|
| I don't know.  Anyone have any clues?
|
| --D
|
| ###
| David Notik
| Digital202, LLC
| Imagination gone digital.
| Web:   www.digital202.com
| E-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Office: (206) 575-1717
| Mobile: (206) 351-3948
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Large file uploads

[Suzanne Capener]

I have the same issue.  I don't like the answer of RAM because I am running on a 
gigahertz with 768MB of ram.  While uploading the 10MB file, the CPU maxed out at 100% 
for 2 minutes.  My physical memory usage is only have the capacity.

Anyone have any suggestions?
Perhaps there is something that I am missing?

Anyone tried any alternatives and found a more efficient solution?

Thanks,
Suz

I did change my page file to another drive with more space and increased it and found 
a significant increase in performance, but 2 minutes is still too long for the CPU to 
spike. The page memory does not max out either.

anyone worked out 
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RE: CFC output

[Kevin Bridges]

Think we should listen to Matt on this one ... 3 letters for dealing with
cfcs: MVC (Model - View - Controller) ... learn it, live it, love it.

Kevin Bridges

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFC output

The logic used to derive those results should be decoupled from the
display.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

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Error in logs

[Robert Shaw]

Hi,
We're seeing the CF Process hang in CFMX (new install) after implementing 
this article: 
http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/coldfusion/articles/ntdomain_1.html. 
There is this message in the server log: An unexpected exception has been 
detected in native code outside the VM. Unexpected Signal : 
EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at PC=0x2b522b3b Function name=(N/A) 
Library=C:\CFusionMX\runtime\bin\WindowsLogin.dll. Has anyone seen this?

TIA,
Rob




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RE: Macromedia Contribute

[Matt Liotta]

It uses FTP, which any security conscious admin would disable.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Cathy Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:58 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Macromedia Contribute
> 
> Speaking of, does anyone know what it's using to connect to the server
(ie
> RPC)? I got it to try out and I managed to get it working fine to my
home
> server, but it does not work with any of the servers at work (all of
which
> are Solaris). The only thing I can think of is that it's using some
daemon
> that has been disabled during security stripping of servers at work
that I
> didn't do to my server at home.
> 
> My feelings on it so far are really I could care less. I use CFStudio
RDS
> and it's just as easy for me to open a file through that as it is
through
> Contribute (then again, I'm not one for WYSIWYG). Contribute opens up
new
> security issues (for example I can turn off RDS on the server, but now
> I'll have to turn off whatever this uses as well). We don't really
have
> access control or separate people designing content and functionality
(and
> when we do, the content portion doesn't change as it's only graphics -
> everything else is database driven).
> 
> Cathy
> 
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RE: CFC output

[Matt Liotta]

The logic used to derive those results should be decoupled from the
display.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:06 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> I agree with u Matt but I think he's trying to say that any logic used
to
> derive those html results are set in stone if the function is used to
> output
> html...Unless the function is solely used to format data which was
> generated
> from other function call(s).
> 
> Stace
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:45 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFC output
> 
> If the HTML is meant to display in a browser then sending it to a
Flash
> front-end would be quite silly since Flash supports rendering very
> little HTML. It would make more sense to create specific CFCs or
> specific methods for each type of display you are interested in. Then
> you don't have to worry about adding additional display types in
future
> causing problems for existing display types.
> 
> Attempting to create generic objects that can handle current
> requirements as well as unanticipated future requirements is one of
the
> easiest ways to destroy a software project.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:19 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFC output
> >
> > I never said it was a requirement - but rather something you should
> > remember. In other words, not outputting and using cfreturn will
work
> in
> > more ways then direct outputting, I'd always rather use that just in
> > case I do add a Flash layer to my site.
> >
> > As it stands, we should probably just agree to disagree. ;)
> >
> >
>
===
> > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
> >
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> > Yahoo IM : morpheus
> >
> > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:49 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFC output
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, but if your CFC is supposed to output HTML why would you
> > > want to call it from Flash? There are many different valid
> > > uses of CFCs and calling their functionality from Flash is
> > > only one of them and certainly isn't a requirement.
> > >
> > > Matt Liotta
> > > President & CEO
> > > Montara Software, Inc.
> > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > > 888-408-0900 x901
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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