RE: How to post a null date variable to a table
Arden, Are you on CFMX 6.1? This should work for you if you are: CFSQLTYPE="CF_SQL_TIMESTAMP" VALUE="#AGT_TO_DTC#" NULL="#Len(AGT_TO_DTC) EQ 0#" /> The above doesn't work? Odd.. Try it like I have it above... It will save you a few lines of code... If that matters to you. Mike > > > > > > UPDATE MYTABLE > SET AGT_TO_DTC = > VALUE = "#AGT_TO_DTC#" null="#mTEST#" /> > WHERE ID_NUMBER = '#mFINDIT#' > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
CFMX Server questions: I am desperate
Hi, Sorry if ths would be better in the CF-Server list, but there is no activity there. I am having a lot of problems with CFMX and my host. I have designed a site that is not all that busy (a couple of hundred hits a day) but deals with a database that has a lot of data (hockey stats). The site was originally on a Win2k/CFMX 6.0 box which generally worked ok other than a couple of times a day, the box would start to serve up white pages. No errors, no 404s or 401s, just white pages. The host claimed it was a known CF bug and pointed me to a thread on the Macromedia site. Once it started happening more often, I was offered the chance to move the site to their new win2003/CFMX 6.1 box which was apparently free of this problem. The white page problem is gone, but now I have a couple of new issues. First of all, as I mentioned in an earlier post, the logout functionality is totally broken. The login/out code was generaed by DWMX. Users can login fine, but when they click the logout link, they get a "page unavailable" error. The session is invalidated, but the page does not get redirected. Also, if you try to access a protected page without having first logged in, you get a "page not available" error, but no error is caught by my error page as defined in application.cfm. Also on some of the protected pages, if you hit the refresh button (and are logged in) the HTML source is dumped to the page (no CF code present, just HTML). What the heck is happening? I would like to point out that all of this works just fine on my dev box which is running 6.1 on Win2k. Any help appreciated. JM [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
what does this do?
Came across the code below in a store app and want to understand what it does. It supposedly "releases the database", but I'm not sure exactly what that means: I'd appreciate any insight into what the above code actually/exactly does, where the "CFUSION_DBCONNECTIONS_FLUSH()" syntax comes from and how it works for odbc connections TIA Tim [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 03:24 am, Rob wrote:
> dh = new DefaultHandler("messages");
Ahh ha, cheers to you both :-)
Dick mentions it is more stright forward in synch. mode - I assume this
applies to the gubbins around the code for neuromancer, rather than to the
neuromancer stuff itself ?
:plays some more
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Re: CF 6.0 update to 6.1 problem
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Re: Cached Queries
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 19:09 pm, Dave Watts wrote: > How many users are you serving from your desktop? A couple :-} > There are many reasons why queries may run slowly or quickly, of course. I suppose all you can really do is benchmark the various methods in your own app... -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: what does this do?
> From: Tim Laureska > > Came across the code below in a store app and want to > understand what it does. It supposedly "releases the > database", but I'm not sure exactly what that means: > > > I'd appreciate any insight into what the above code > actually/exactly does, where the > "CFUSION_DBCONNECTIONS_FLUSH()" syntax comes from and how it > works for odbc connections To understand what this does, you have to first understand how ODBC connectors work with databases Normally (this can be set "off") an ODBC connector will open a database and keep it open, meaning that it can't be accessed by another application This allows for faster accesses as it doesn't have to keep on re-opening the database for every request What the function does is force the ODBC connector to release it's hold on the database, allowing you to either replace it, work with it using other applications, change the database the ODBC connector is referring to, etc. It's an "undocumented feature", so it won't be in the manuals [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: what does this do?
It does just that..its an old function used to FLUSH the connections between client and DB - normally only used for Access in the good old days when an MDB used to lock on access and you could not alter it... It can cause problems on shared hosting as if used wrong it can break all connections to all datasources! best to stay clear of it, I havent seen it used since CF4. _ From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2004 13:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: what does this do? Came across the code below in a store app and want to understand what it does. It supposedly "releases the database", but I'm not sure exactly what that means: I'd appreciate any insight into what the above code actually/exactly does, where the "CFUSION_DBCONNECTIONS_FLUSH()" syntax comes from and how it works for odbc connections TIA Tim _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CF cluster setup... is there a howto somewhere?
Matt, Take a look at Brandon Purcell's article on the subject at http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/j2ee/articles/endtoend.html. This article attempts to provide a step by step overview of installing the same instance over multiple machines. In practice, the steps can get quite tricky. Some of the items the article does not cover: a) Load Balanacers (for sharing IP traffic before it reaches the application server) b) Heartbeat cables (for sharing sessions between JRUN instances) c) Storage area network failover (a critical piece in a traditional set-up) >From a clustering point of view these items are important as well. If you're using Windows 2000/2003, some will suggest using Microsoft Clustering-- I have not had much luck with the product, so I will not recommed. Let the group know of your progress and improvements to the article. Jeremy > Barney Boisvert wrote: > > >Probably the biggest boon to doing it without J2EE is that you can > >save $3K per machine because you only need CFMX Standard, not CFMX > >Enterprise/J2EE. > > Well that is very interesting. I think these guys are wanting to > stick to a traditional setup though. > > Found this by searching for "ClusterCATS" at mm.com. > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6/Using_ClusterCATS/ > > This was in the CF 6 docs and not CF 6.1. Is ClusterCATS gone from CF > 6.1? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CF cluster setup... is there a howto somewhere?
There is an updated version of the article Jeremy suggested at (using CFMX 6.1 enterprise with the J2EE install) http://www.bpurcell.org/viewContent.cfm?ContentID=121 This article covers how Hardware can be used as well http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/j2ee/articles/balancing_j2ee.html I also have another article on multiple instances if you want to use that model as well. http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/multi_instances.html Frank D and I are working on another article using Microsoft NLB. I can say after using it though it does not gain you alot beyond clustering the front end. Brandon [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT
Hi All, I am using Dreamweaver mx and CFMX 6.1 professional and would like to use RDS support. This would only be used on our dev boxes. We have lots of curators and databases. We would like to sandbox these databases so that a given curator can only see his/her tables/views in all of their databases. Because the data is sensitive, we don't want everyone seeing this data. I hope this explains our situation. I have been told by others this is not possible. Any help would be appreciated. TIA, Patrick Whittingham United Space Alliance AES - Data Warehouse _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT
what db are you using? you can set granular security roles with most enterprise dbs. -Adam > -Original Message- > From: Whittingham, P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2004 01:14 PM > To: 'CF-Talk' > Subject: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT > > Hi All, > > I am using Dreamweaver mx and CFMX 6.1 professional and would like to use RDS support. This would only be used on our dev boxes. We have lots of curators and databases. We would like to sandbox these databases so that a given curator can only see his/her tables/views in all of their databases. Because the data is sensitive, we don't want everyone seeing this data. I hope this explains our situation. I have been told by others this is not possible. Any help would be appreciated. > > TIA, > Patrick Whittingham > United Space Alliance > AES - Data Warehouse > > > _ > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT
Using MS Access, MS SQL Server and Oracle 8/8i/9i databases. So your saying, to use the security roles inside the db to control seeing the tables/views/sp? TIA, Patrick Whittingham United Space Alliance AES - Data Warehouse -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT what db are you using? you can set granular security roles with most enterprise dbs. -Adam > -Original Message- > From: Whittingham, P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2004 01:14 PM > To: 'CF-Talk' > Subject: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT > > Hi All, > > I am using Dreamweaver mx and CFMX 6.1 professional and would like to use RDS support. This would only be used on our dev boxes. We have lots of curators and databases. We would like to sandbox these databases so that a given curator can only see his/her tables/views in all of their databases. Because the data is sensitive, we don't want everyone seeing this data. I hope this explains our situation. I have been told by others this is not possible. Any help would be appreciated. > > TIA, > Patrick Whittingham > United Space Alliance > AES - Data Warehouse > > > _ > > > > _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
There have been several threads lately, about RIAs and PIAs -- discussing Flex, Flash, XUL, Neuromancer (_javascript_ Remoting), desktop applications and XUL. I for one was/am critical of the Flash RIA as not being good enough -- resulting in a heavy or sticky feel to the UI. I realize the advantages of Flash, especially its consistency and ubiquity -- I only wish it were more usable and more programmable. Flex (at some cost) appears to address the programmability issue. Also, there are hints that the next CFMX will include some Flash programming capabilities. That's all well and good, if Flash can deliver acceptable performance -- if it can't then I will look elsewhere for RIA solutions. I like MACR, Their products are good to excellent, their people are great -- I have had no negative experiences with either. That said, Flash still disappoints me -- I would like to see it succeed. I would like to be able to use it. But there is something very wrong. Several days ago I mentioned that the Flex code explorer contained one of the slowest menu trees I'd ever seen. This is one of the apps that MACR uses to showcase the FlexFlash RIA. It just isn't fast enough to be usable, especially when you consider the amount of client resources it consumes to attain poor UI performance. My particular criticism is with the expanding and collapsing of the folders -- where only client-side RIA processing is performed, Two days ago I learned about XUL. XUL looks like a possible RIA solution & that too, has been discussed in other threads. To prove to myself that the Flash Tree example was, indeed a poor performer, I decided to write a comparable tree menu in XUL. All I really did was create (part of) the tree. Selecting an item/document/leaf node doesn't do anything. I nested the folders 3 levels deep and duplicated the "Component Library" outer node enough times to get a tree larger than the code explorer. This is enough to compare expand/collapse with the Flash tree. Here it is. You need a current Mozilla or FireFox browser tto render XUL. http://67.124.145.42/XUL/XULSampleTreeMenu.xul Put this up, side-by-side with the Flex Code Explorer at: http://macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# Expand enough folders on each to get the window scrolling. Then expand/collapse the top node. Why is Flash so slow? Thoughts! Dick P.S. Display source and you will see the entire XUL program. P.P.S. The XUL page may be slow to download -- The site is on my development machine which is quite busy -- JRUN/CFMX/MySQL, VirtualPC/WIN XP, 2 streamers, lots of browser windows & a few desktop apps [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How to post a null date variable to a table
Here's a briefer syntax: null="#yesNoFormat(NOT Len(trim(agt_to_dtc)))#"> - Original Message - From: "Arden Weiss" > > > > > > > > > UPDATE MYTABLE > SET AGT_TO_DTC = > VALUE = null="#mTEST#" /> > WHERE ID_NUMBER = '#mFINDIT#' > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: what does this do?
> It can cause problems on shared hosting as if used wrong it can break all > connections to all datasources! best to stay clear of it, I havent > seen it > used since CF4. > It is still in CF5. Its only in CFMX with the service factories that you can actually release an individual datasource (I believe) In previous version it always released all the datasource connections, so a definate no-no in a shared environment (unless you've lost the will to live that is) Stephen [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
I think the "sluggishness" comes from the animation, which you can turn off. You can't really compare an animated tree to a non-animated one. That said, Flex is very sluggish in general. The base classes are much heavier than the equivalent Flash ones and they add a lot of code related to layout and sizing that slows everything down. When a component moves or is resized it broadcasts that to all the components around it, which adjust and re-broadcast. In addition, there is code in there for special cases, like every component has an "if I'm in a repeater" section in it that runs just in case the component happens to be inside a repeater component. When we modified our charting components to work with Flex we noticed they were significantly slower. The Flex team told us we should not use UIObject/UIComponent (the v2 base classes) for our internal movieclips, only for the main movieclip that sits inside the Flex application. We made this change (after making our own light base class that has the functionality we need--styles, events, invalidation) and performance improved incredibly. I think the Flex component features are great, but they're sluggish, and the price tag is too much for any of our clients, and we have several installed applications that cost over a quarter million dollars. I don't see how XUL is an option though except for extreme cases--requires FireFox/Mozilla. Any chance there's an ActiveX renderer for XUL that works in IE? Sam Blog http://www.rewindlife.com TeamMM http://www.macromedia.com/go/team > -Original Message- > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:34 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RIA options, Flex Flash and others. > > There have been several threads lately, about RIAs and PIAs -- > discussing Flex, Flash, XUL, Neuromancer (_javascript_ > Remoting), desktop > applications and XUL. > > I for one was/am critical of the Flash RIA as not being good > enough -- > resulting in a heavy or sticky feel to the UI. > > I realize the advantages of Flash, especially its consistency and > ubiquity -- I only wish it were more usable and more programmable. > Flex (at some cost) appears to address the programmability issue. > Also, there are hints that the next CFMX will include some Flash > programming capabilities. > > That's all well and good, if Flash can deliver acceptable performance > -- if it can't then I will look elsewhere for RIA solutions. > > I like MACR, Their products are good to excellent, their people are > great -- I have had no negative experiences with either. > > That said, Flash still disappoints me -- I would like to see it > succeed. I would like to be able to use it. > > But there is something very wrong. > > Several days ago I mentioned that the Flex code explorer > contained one > of the slowest menu trees I'd ever seen. > > This is one of the apps that MACR uses to showcase the FlexFlash RIA. > > It just isn't fast enough to be usable, especially when you consider > the amount of client resources it consumes to attain poor UI > performance. My particular criticism is with the expanding and > collapsing of the folders -- where only client-side RIA processing is > performed, > > Two days ago I learned about XUL. > > XUL looks like a possible RIA solution & that too, has been discussed > in other threads. > > To prove to myself that the Flash Tree example was, indeed a poor > performer, I decided to write a comparable tree menu in XUL. All I > really did was create (part of) the tree. Selecting an > item/document/leaf node doesn't do anything. I nested the folders 3 > levels deep and duplicated the "Component Library" outer node enough > times to get a tree larger than the code explorer. This is enough to > compare expand/collapse with the Flash tree. > > Here it is. You need a current Mozilla or FireFox browser > tto render > XUL. > > http://67.124.145.42/XUL/XULSampleTreeMenu.xul > > Put this up, side-by-side with the Flex Code Explorer at: > > > http://macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# > > Expand enough folders on each to get the window scrolling. Then > expand/collapse the top node. > > Why is Flash so slow? > > Thoughts! > > Dick > > P.S. Display source and you will see the entire XUL program. > > P.P.S. The XUL page may be slow to download -- The site is on my > development machine which is quite busy -- JRUN/CFMX/MySQL, > VirtualPC/WIN XP, 2 streamers, lots of browser windows & a > few desktop > apps [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: what does this do?
yeah, thought is was in 5, just havent had to use it since my Access forays _ From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2004 14:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: what does this do? > It can cause problems on shared hosting as if used wrong it can break all > connections to all datasources! best to stay clear of it, I havent > seen it > used since CF4. > It is still in CF5. Its only in CFMX with the service factories that you can actually release an individual datasource (I believe) In previous version it always released all the datasource connections, so a definate no-no in a shared environment (unless you've lost the will to live that is) Stephen _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Importing Access to MSSQL
I use the DTS package designer wizard in SQL to create a DTS script for this. If you must drop the tables each night then the procedure is: drop tables create tables (no indexes or constraints) copy data in -AT this step can do many things including clean up the data, merge the data etc. Run your script to build indexes, keys, constraints and views etc. Run any clean up scripts you like. All of this - including your FTP task - can be automated using a DTS package. -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Importing Access to MSSQL i use this, pretty slick, takes about 30 seconds http://www.data-conversions.net/access2mysqlpro.html > Several ways to do this. > > Use the upsizing wizard -- but I'm told that there are problems using > that approach for data -- okay to get the table structures in place I > think. Alternatively, create the new tables manually in MSSQL. > > Once the tables are in place, use CF to query the Access Table and then > use CF to Insert recrods into MSSQL table. > > Another way is to use a Windows app in client-server mode with ODBC > drivers to do the Query and Post process -- I use Visual FoxPro and ODBC > drivers for this purpose a lot irrespective of what the "from" and "to" > databases are (Excel, Text, Access, MySQL, MSSQL, Oracle, etc). > > Both of these processes allow for a lot of data checking and cleanup to > be done in the migration process because of FoxPro's extensive string > and date manipulation functions. Processing Datetime fields can be a > bugger to deal with especially going from other than Access to MSSQL. > > To give you some performance numbers, I deleted and then created a new > MSSQL table located at a hosting service from a local 10,000 record > FoxPro DBF file -- the process took about 20 minutes over a 56k modem. > > Just another two cents -- hope it helps... > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RDS Password page gone???
We've been doing some stuff trying to lock down directories on our development server (and we plan to mirror some of the lockdowns on the production server) but we ran into a funny problem. On the dev server, we have RDS enabled, and we've been trying to limit where people who RDS in can see on the server and what they have access to. The problem is, we suddenly noticed that in the CF Administrator, there is no link for "RDS Password" anymore under Security. Anybody know what flags that to appear or disappear? RDS works correctly and there is a password on it, but if we ever need to change it, no one will be able to (at least through normal means). Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. John Burns [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Apr 7, 2004, at 6:48 AM, Samuel R. Neff wrote: > I don't see how XUL is an option though except for extreme > cases--requires > FireFox/Mozilla. Any chance there's an ActiveX renderer for XUL that > works > in IE? > > Don't know about an ActiveX renderer -- but supposedly XUL has been submitted for consideration as a standard, (For whatever that is worth). I know I can't use OS X Safari with XUL nor Neuromancer, for that matter. The most likely solution will be that MACR fixes Flash -- I hope they do. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
A big reason that the Flash seems slow is the animation. I'm primarily a UI guy and when I saw FutureSplash for the first time, I knew it was going to be huge for UI. But at the same time, I immediately realized that anything that needlessly slows down the user is detrimental to the user experience. Animation, by definition, takes time. The entire concept of FutureSplash/Flash was predicated on a timeline. Literally something that takes time. And this was back in the day of struggling to optimize web pages to load faster over a 28.8 modem. The speed problem with the Flex tree is mostly that it animates the expanding and collapsing. It's entirely possible to create a swf menu tree that switches states immediately without the animation. It would be an interesting comparison then to see an "instant" Flash based tree menu with the XUL one. I know there are other issues with Flash speed than just animation. That said, there are reasons to animate behaviors. Animation can allow the user to have a better understanding of what the result of their interaction was. If things happen too quickly, a user can miss the result or the causal relationship. The result of their action may happen so quickly and in a different enough location from the user's visual field of focus that they miss the event. If the user's result is different from the user's expectation and happens "instantaneously" without visual cues of a cuasal relationship, the user may percieve it as a system problem. Think of the modal error dialogs that suddenly appear and you don't know what you did. Finding the balance between enough animation for visual cues of cause/effect and fast enough to not feel "sticky" is tough. I agree with you though that a lot of Flash apps don't get it right. And a problem is that the animation speed is partly tied to computer speed, so the user experience isn't always predictable. -Kevin > XUL. > > http://67.124.145.42/XUL/XULSampleTreeMenu.xul > > Put this up, side-by-side with the Flex Code Explorer at: > > http://macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# > > Expand enough folders on each to get the window scrolling. Then > expand/collapse the top node. > > Why is Flash so slow? > > Thoughts! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Javascript Remoting (js web service accessing stuff)
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 05:24, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 03:24 am, Rob wrote:
> > dh = new DefaultHandler("messages");
>
> Ahh ha, cheers to you both :-)
>
> Dick mentions it is more stright forward in synch. mode - I assume this
> applies to the gubbins around the code for neuromancer, rather than to the
> neuromancer stuff itself ?
Yeah it's easier to handle in non-async mode (which is default if you
grab the new gateway.js file
(http://www.rohanclan.com/products/neuromancer/js/gateway.js). You would
do those steps no matter if in sync or async; however, in async the call
to the web service would launch into it's own thread.
With the new js lib you have to specifically set remote object factory
to async mode:
roFactory.setAsync(true);
I would recommend you do not set it into async until you've played
around a bit and get the feel for how it all works in sync mode (which
is more stable anyway). _javascript_ does not have very good handling of
threads (none really).
The goblins, as you so aptly named them :), are because you are dealing
with 2 different threads where as in sync mode you don't have to deal
with web service calls happening behind your programming back.
Have fun Thomas, let me know if you have any questions,
--
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Apr 7, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Dick Applebaum wrote: > I for one was/am critical of the Flash RIA as not being good enough -- > resulting in a heavy or sticky feel to the UI. > > That's all well and good, if Flash can deliver acceptable performance > -- if it can't then I will look elsewhere for RIA solutions. > > It just isn't fast enough to be usable, especially when you consider > the amount of client resources it consumes to attain poor UI > performance. My particular criticism is with the expanding and > collapsing of the folders -- where only client-side RIA processing is > performed, I actually don't find the performance to be all that bad. Your XUL example is obviously much faster, however as Sam pointed out, that's not really a fair comparison. Additionally, I don't think XUL is a very viable solution given the size of the audience that it addresses. Performance is your point, however, and not ubiquity, so I will say that although I find the performance of Flex applications to be quite acceptable, Macromedia is fully aware of the importance of performance as it relates to our RIA strategy. I obviously can't get into specifics, but I will say that performance is a big priority at Macromedia. Christian [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Apr 7, 2004, at 7:07 AM, Kevin Graeme wrote: > The speed problem with the Flex tree is mostly that it animates the > expanding and collapsing. It's entirely possible to create a swf menu > tree > that switches states immediately without the animation. It would be an > interesting comparison then to see an "instant" Flash based tree menu > with > the XUL one. I know there are other issues with Flash speed than just > animation. > > Do you mean that they are using the equivalent of a movie to display the expansion and collapse of the folders and elements? To what end? Illustrate poor design. perhaps. I was told by some Macr people that they were redoing the Code explorer app to improve performance. Seems like they should be able to quickly fix this! I too, would like to see an "Instant" Flash tree example. Dick P.S. The XUL menu tree has some overhead, too the rows (treecells) are just containers that can contain anything (text, buttons, img, mp3, swf). etc) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming up before, but since the search is disabled on the archives, I can't seem to find info on it. Any ideas? John Burns [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT
> I am using Dreamweaver mx and CFMX 6.1 professional and > would like to use RDS support. This would only be used on our > dev boxes. We have lots of curators and databases. We would > like to sandbox these databases so that a given curator can > only see his/her tables/views in all of their databases. > Because the data is sensitive, we don't want everyone seeing > this data. I hope this explains our situation. I have been > told by others this is not possible. Any help would be > appreciated. Unfortunately, I doubt that you'll be able to do exactly what you want. Within CFMX 6.1, you only have one RDS password, which you'd have to give to all your RDS-enabled curators. This password would allow anyone with RDS access to browse all of the databases that CFMX has been configured to use, and edit any of the CFM files on the CF server's filesystem, assuming the default filesystem ACLs have not been changed. You could avoid placing usernames and passwords in your CFMX datasources, which would prevent people from browsing them through RDS, but I'm not sure whether RDS will then give you a database login prompt to allow you to enter that information then. Even if it does, you'd then have to pass USERNAME and PASSWORD attributes within each CFQUERY tag, and one RDS user could simply read the files of another user to find out the username and password. This might be sufficient for your needs, but obviously it isn't a guarantee of security. You might instead consider setting up separate instances of CFMX, which unfortunately would require that you purchase Enterprise edition. This would allow you to isolate each curator. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
Dick, The Flash examples you mention run fine on my machine and I do not notice any significant sluggishness. On slower machines I do see some issues but I think the comparisons you are drawing are not exactly fair. The XUL examples I have seen are not exactly visually stunning. Also, currently XUL is very limited on what browsers it can be ran on. I reviewed several of the examples at http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xulqa/ and they are all pretty simple UI's. Although they are more responsive they do not look anything like the examples that Flex provides. If you look at how the flash player has changed over the last few versions you will see that performance has improved and the actionscript language has continued to evolve as well. Performance enhancements are high on the priority list for the Flash player and performance issues are not being ignored. Brandon >There have been several threads lately, about RIAs and PIAs -- >discussing Flex, Flash, XUL, Neuromancer (_javascript_ Remoting), desktop >applications and XUL. > >I for one was/am critical of the Flash RIA as not being good enough -- >resulting in a heavy or sticky feel to the UI. > >I realize the advantages of Flash, especially its consistency and >ubiquity -- I only wish it were more usable and more programmable. >Flex (at some cost) appears to address the programmability issue. >Also, there are hints that the next CFMX will include some Flash >programming capabilities. > >That's all well and good, if Flash can deliver acceptable performance >-- if it can't then I will look elsewhere for RIA solutions. > >I like MACR, Their products are good to excellent, their people are >great -- I have had no negative experiences with either. > >That said, Flash still disappoints me -- I would like to see it >succeed. I would like to be able to use it. > >But there is something very wrong. > >Several days ago I mentioned that the Flex code explorer contained one >of the slowest menu trees I'd ever seen. > >This is one of the apps that MACR uses to showcase the FlexFlash RIA. > >It just isn't fast enough to be usable, especially when you consider >the amount of client resources it consumes to attain poor UI >performance. My particular criticism is with the expanding and >collapsing of the folders -- where only client-side RIA processing is >performed, > >Two days ago I learned about XUL. > >XUL looks like a possible RIA solution & that too, has been discussed >in other threads. > >To prove to myself that the Flash Tree example was, indeed a poor >performer, I decided to write a comparable tree menu in XUL. All I >really did was create (part of) the tree. Selecting an >item/document/leaf node doesn't do anything. I nested the folders 3 >levels deep and duplicated the "Component Library" outer node enough >times to get a tree larger than the code explorer. This is enough to >compare expand/collapse with the Flash tree. > > Here it is. You need a current Mozilla or FireFox browser tto render >XUL. > > http://67.124.145.42/XUL/XULSampleTreeMenu.xul > >Put this up, side-by-side with the Flex Code Explorer at: > > http://macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# > >Expand enough folders on each to get the window scrolling. Then >expand/collapse the top node. > >Why is Flash so slow? > >Thoughts! > >Dick > >P.S. Display source and you will see the entire XUL program. > >P.P.S. The XUL page may be slow to download -- The site is on my >development machine which is quite busy -- JRUN/CFMX/MySQL, >VirtualPC/WIN XP, 2 streamers, lots of browser windows & a few desktop >apps [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CF MX 6.1 ODBC problems?
> We are running MX 6.1. MX seems to run fine, but about every > 8 - 12 hours it crashes. Our site will come back with a > coldfusion datasource error after a while. The datasource > can connect to the database no problem even while the error > is occuring. The only way to fix it is to restart the mx services. > > I should also mention we are runnning in distributed mode, > although I don't believe it would matter. We are also using > MS SQL for the database. Any ideas on how to solve this > problem? Thanks. As Joe Eugene mentioned, you'll probably want to use JDBC drivers instead of ODBC drivers. If you choose to use the Macromedia JDBC drivers, you'll want to download the latest version - it fixes a lot of serious problems: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfmx61_sqlserver_c pu.htm (installation instructions) http://download.macromedia.com/pub/coldfusion/drivers/3.3/macromedia_drivers .zip (direct link to drivers) Some of our clients have been very happy using the MS JDBC drivers instead. Microsoft JDBC driver for SQL Server 2000: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9f1874b6-f8e1-4bd6- 947c-0fc5bf05bf71&DisplayLang=en I would strongly recommend that anyone using CFMX 6.1 with SQL Server 2000 use one of these two drivers, instead of ODBC or the JDBC driver that comes with CFMX 6.1. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
> Do you mean that they are using the equivalent of a movie to display > the expansion and collapse of the folders and elements? > > To what end? Illustrate poor design. perhaps. I don't think you can necessarily say that because it's animated that it's poor design, and that wasn't my point. I would rather say that the animation speed may not be optimal. I don't mean optimized code, I mean a cost/benefit cutoff. As I said before, animation has benefits. Finding the right amount/speed is hard and isn't the same for all users. -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Cached Queries
> > There are many reasons why queries may run slowly or > > quickly, of course. > > I suppose all you can really do is benchmark the various > methods in your own app... This, of course, is the secret to success with any web application. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Creepy crawly...frozen page loads...
Yay! So I finally got my Coldfusion and Apache to play together nicely. And I even got my coldfusion test page to load correctly. However, *all* of my pages are loading slower than molasses on a cold day going up hill. Something has to be wrong, but I can't tell what it is. The real trouble I'm having is with Flex pages at the moment. The browser seems to recognize them and try to load them.and then nothing. it just sits their waiting and never actually loads. Anyone have any ideas? It's entirely possible I didn't get Flex installed correctly - as the instructions were convoluted and lengthy. It seems strange to me in today's world of installers that do everything for us, that we're putting up with all the complicated install processes that MM is throwing at us. It's pretty remarkable. I love MM stuff once it's up and running, but getting it there can be hell - that's for sure. _ avast! Antivirus : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0404-4, 04/07/2004 Tested on: 4/7/2004 8:46:01 AM avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
I was one of the people looking for a fix for this a few months ago. I see this error when I try to RDS to a client's server. Not sure if this is the same issue. I can't say for sure but, it looks like the RDS call does not time out. So, if you have your Max number of connections set to 2 and you attempt to connect via RDS twice you have no available "connections" and the server is "dead" until someone dismisses the pop up messages. I don't have access to this server so most of this is second hand from the client and thus can not test this theory. I am not aware of any current fix for this. I have heard of a rumor that there is a CFMX 6.1 service pack / hot fix roll up / point upgrade (not sure what it will be officially be called) in the works and that issues like this should be address by it. Just out of curiosity do you have the Novell client installed on the server? Mark W. Breneman -Cold Fusion Developer -Network Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming up before, but since the search is disabled on the archives, I can't seem to find info on it. Any ideas? John Burns _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Creepy crawly...frozen page loads...
I know what you mean about the flex install. I got it working fine on its own - when I tried to follow the instructions to connect it to CF by 'merging' the .xml files it turned out to be a nightmare and I couldn't get it to work so gave up. :( -Original Message- From: Abraham Vionas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2004 15:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Creepy crawly...frozen page loads... Yay! So I finally got my Coldfusion and Apache to play together nicely. And I even got my coldfusion test page to load correctly. However, *all* of my pages are loading slower than molasses on a cold day going up hill. Something has to be wrong, but I can't tell what it is. The real trouble I'm having is with Flex pages at the moment. The browser seems to recognize them and try to load them.and then nothing. it just sits their waiting and never actually loads. Anyone have any ideas? It's entirely possible I didn't get Flex installed correctly - as the instructions were convoluted and lengthy. It seems strange to me in today's world of installers that do everything for us, that we're putting up with all the complicated install processes that MM is throwing at us. It's pretty remarkable. I love MM stuff once it's up and running, but getting it there can be hell - that's for sure. _ avast! Antivirus : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0404-4, 04/07/2004 Tested on: 4/7/2004 8:46:01 AM avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
Hi, Christian On Apr 7, 2004, at 7:09 AM, Christian Cantrell wrote: > > I actually don't find the performance to be all that bad. I guess that performance is like beauty -- in the eye of the beholder. Its a nit, I admit -- but if it can't do a simple thing and perform well then that could easily taint one's overall perception of the product. > Your XUL > example is obviously much faster, however as Sam pointed out, that's > not really a fair comparison. I would like to see a Fair comparison --maybe, Ill write a Flash tree myself. I think it would help if Macr would include some explanation, on the site, of what's happening -- it is noticeably slower than any menu trees I've seen -- maybe with good reason. > Additionally, I don't think XUL is a > very viable solution given the size of the audience that it > addresses. Ah, but that logic has flaws too, I can remember, not too long ago, when CF had a minor market share. Also, IMO, one of the (several) reasons that IE won the browser wars was that its browser provided function (via ActiveX) that was either not available or not usable (read download time and performance of applets) in other browsers. If the only way a user can get the function and/or performance he needs is to download a free browser or plugin -- then why wouldn't he. I sit here on a Mac and if I want to develop a UI that includes a wysiwig editor, my choice is pretty clear -- I must develop for IE on windows platform. So far, all the Mac editors I've seen are wygiwyw (pronounced Wiggy-Woo) -- What You Get Isn't What You Want! Theoretically, one should be able to write a pretty good editor in Flash, that would be platform/browser independent! Is guess the point is: Ubiquity is not the only consideration and it can be a fleeting advantage, > Performance is your point, however, and not ubiquity, so I will say > that although I find the performance of Flex applications to be quite > acceptable, Macromedia is fully aware of the importance of performance > as it relates to our RIA strategy. I obviously can't get into > specifics, but I will say that performance is a big priority at > Macromedia. > > I would expect no less, but that is good to hear, anyway Macr has a proven track record when it comes to expending the resource necessary to attain the performance and quality needed to produce a superior product -- CFMX/JRun attest to that! I do look forward to using Flash for RIAs Guess I'll crack open that Flex evaluation CD & see what happens. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
Hrmm... sounds like you need a disk in the A drive. :) > -Original Message- > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2004 02:20 PM > To: 'CF-Talk' > Subject: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? > > Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error > saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming up before, > but since the search is disabled on the archives, I can't seem to find > info on it. Any ideas? > > John Burns > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
End of session
Hi, Parts of the application I'm working on are usable to unauthenticated users and parts are not. In my cflogin I'm looking at whether the user's request should be authenticated or not. The issue I've run into is when the user's session times out while they're using the app, and the next click is for an unauthenticated area. Rather than have the user continue to the unauthenticated area and receive the public navigation bar (as opposed to the authenticated navigation) I'd like the user to be forwarded to the login screen. In the list archives there's an exchange about wanting an ASP-style OnEndSession event and how that doesn't really exist in CF. Assuming that's still true, does anyone have a workaround? One thing that comes to mind is letting the user know their session is timing out via popup. The other option might be appending a URL parameter whenever the user is logged in. The logic in the cflogin would see that the user isn't logged in and that the URL parameter says they were and therefore the user should be directed to the login screen rather than the public area they were requesting. Any comments/ideas/suggestions? -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
> Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN > error saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this > coming up before, but since the search is disabled on the > archives, I can't seem to find info on it. Any ideas? I remember seeing this issue on the list, but haven't run into it myself, and don't remember hearing about a solution. You might try playing around with the local security policy, to see if you can prevent CFMX from being able to touch the floppy drive at all. Within the Local Security Policy configuration tool, under "Security Policies", there's an option to "restrict floppy access to locally logged-in user". Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: help, cfmx 6.1 just hangs!
anybody have any clue why this is happening? Thanks Josh wrote: > We are having some issues with one of our new CFMX servers that I am > configuring. For some reason I just can't seem to get CF working > happily. Whenever I try to load a .cfm page on the server, the page just > churns and churns and finally times out... > > I am running CFMX 6.1 on RHEL3 with Apache. > > When I install the server using the standalone webserver on port 8500 it > works great. If configured for apache, it does not work and just acts > like it is loading and loading and loading...but never loads. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Josh > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
Wow, you're right. That Flex Code Explorer is horrible. It even kinda "shudders" when it's expanding and collapsing. And the app takes around a minute to load. Why is any of this better than a DHMTL tree with nice little images? Greg -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RIA options, Flex Flash and others. There have been several threads lately, about RIAs and PIAs -- discussing Flex, Flash, XUL, Neuromancer (_javascript_ Remoting), desktop applications and XUL. I for one was/am critical of the Flash RIA as not being good enough -- resulting in a heavy or sticky feel to the UI. I realize the advantages of Flash, especially its consistency and ubiquity -- I only wish it were more usable and more programmable. Flex (at some cost) appears to address the programmability issue. Also, there are hints that the next CFMX will include some Flash programming capabilities. That's all well and good, if Flash can deliver acceptable performance -- if it can't then I will look elsewhere for RIA solutions. I like MACR, Their products are good to excellent, their people are great -- I have had no negative experiences with either. That said, Flash still disappoints me -- I would like to see it succeed. I would like to be able to use it. But there is something very wrong. Several days ago I mentioned that the Flex code explorer contained one of the slowest menu trees I'd ever seen. This is one of the apps that MACR uses to showcase the FlexFlash RIA. It just isn't fast enough to be usable, especially when you consider the amount of client resources it consumes to attain poor UI performance. My particular criticism is with the expanding and collapsing of the folders -- where only client-side RIA processing is performed, Two days ago I learned about XUL. XUL looks like a possible RIA solution & that too, has been discussed in other threads. To prove to myself that the Flash Tree example was, indeed a poor performer, I decided to write a comparable tree menu in XUL. All I really did was create (part of) the tree. Selecting an item/document/leaf node doesn't do anything. I nested the folders 3 levels deep and duplicated the "Component Library" outer node enough times to get a tree larger than the code explorer. This is enough to compare expand/collapse with the Flash tree. Here it is. You need a current Mozilla or FireFox browser tto render XUL. http://67.124.145.42/XUL/XULSampleTreeMenu.xul Put this up, side-by-side with the Flex Code Explorer at: http://macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# Expand enough folders on each to get the window scrolling. Then expand/collapse the top node. Why is Flash so slow? Thoughts! Dick P.S. Display source and you will see the entire XUL program. P.P.S. The XUL page may be slow to download -- The site is on my development machine which is quite busy -- JRUN/CFMX/MySQL, VirtualPC/WIN XP, 2 streamers, lots of browser windows & a few desktop apps [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: help, cfmx 6.1 just hangs!
> I am running CFMX 6.1 on RHEL3 with Apache. What version of Apache are you using? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
http://www.toolkit.cch.com/BOToC.asp great tree view here... _javascript_ I know, but still slick, fast, good. -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RIA options, Flex Flash and others. Wow, you're right. That Flex Code Explorer is horrible. It even kinda "shudders" when it's expanding and collapsing. And the app takes around a minute to load. Why is any of this better than a DHMTL tree with nice little images? Greg -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RIA options, Flex Flash and others. There have been several threads lately, about RIAs and PIAs -- discussing Flex, Flash, XUL, Neuromancer (_javascript_ Remoting), desktop applications and XUL. I for one was/am critical of the Flash RIA as not being good enough -- resulting in a heavy or sticky feel to the UI. I realize the advantages of Flash, especially its consistency and ubiquity -- I only wish it were more usable and more programmable. Flex (at some cost) appears to address the programmability issue. Also, there are hints that the next CFMX will include some Flash programming capabilities. That's all well and good, if Flash can deliver acceptable performance -- if it can't then I will look elsewhere for RIA solutions. I like MACR, Their products are good to excellent, their people are great -- I have had no negative experiences with either. That said, Flash still disappoints me -- I would like to see it succeed. I would like to be able to use it. But there is something very wrong. Several days ago I mentioned that the Flex code explorer contained one of the slowest menu trees I'd ever seen. This is one of the apps that MACR uses to showcase the FlexFlash RIA. It just isn't fast enough to be usable, especially when you consider the amount of client resources it consumes to attain poor UI performance. My particular criticism is with the expanding and collapsing of the folders -- where only client-side RIA processing is performed, Two days ago I learned about XUL. XUL looks like a possible RIA solution & that too, has been discussed in other threads. To prove to myself that the Flash Tree example was, indeed a poor performer, I decided to write a comparable tree menu in XUL. All I really did was create (part of) the tree. Selecting an item/document/leaf node doesn't do anything. I nested the folders 3 levels deep and duplicated the "Component Library" outer node enough times to get a tree larger than the code explorer. This is enough to compare expand/collapse with the Flash tree. Here it is. You need a current Mozilla or FireFox browser tto render XUL. http://67.124.145.42/XUL/XULSampleTreeMenu.xul Put this up, side-by-side with the Flex Code Explorer at: http://macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# Expand enough folders on each to get the window scrolling. Then expand/collapse the top node. Why is Flash so slow? Thoughts! Dick P.S. Display source and you will see the entire XUL program. P.P.S. The XUL page may be slow to download -- The site is on my development machine which is quite busy -- JRUN/CFMX/MySQL, VirtualPC/WIN XP, 2 streamers, lots of browser windows & a few desktop apps [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
OT: Anyone know the IP range for..
I'm trying to find out if there is a set IP range for AOL broad band. Any ideas will help. TAI Phillip B. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:13 pm, Greg Luce wrote: > Why is any of this better than a DHMTL tree with nice little images? Not much I've seen flex do is better than what I can do in DHTML, for less than the cost of flex. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
I think people just seem to shy away from DHTML because of past inconsistencies. PIA's do seem to be a decent option nowadays given the cross browser libraries available. The main draw for flex and such seems to be the write once run anywhere aspect which typically hasn't been a strong point of DHTML. -- Marlon Moyer, Sr. Internet Developer American Contractors Insurance Group phone: 972.687.9445 fax: 972.687.0607 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.acig.com > -Original Message- > From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:14 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: RIA options, Flex Flash and others. > > Wow, you're right. That Flex Code Explorer is horrible. It even kinda > "shudders" when it's expanding and collapsing. And the app takes around > a minute to load. > > Why is any of this better than a DHMTL tree with nice little images? > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:34 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RIA options, Flex Flash and others. > > > There have been several threads lately, about RIAs and PIAs -- > discussing Flex, Flash, XUL, Neuromancer (_javascript_ Remoting), desktop > applications and XUL. > > I for one was/am critical of the Flash RIA as not being good enough -- > resulting in a heavy or sticky feel to the UI. > > I realize the advantages of Flash, especially its consistency and > ubiquity -- I only wish it were more usable and more programmable. > Flex (at some cost) appears to address the programmability issue. > Also, there are hints that the next CFMX will include some Flash > programming capabilities. > > That's all well and good, if Flash can deliver acceptable performance > -- if it can't then I will look elsewhere for RIA solutions. > > I like MACR, Their products are good to excellent, their people are > great -- I have had no negative experiences with either. > > That said, Flash still disappoints me -- I would like to see it > succeed. I would like to be able to use it. > > But there is something very wrong. > > Several days ago I mentioned that the Flex code explorer contained one > of the slowest menu trees I'd ever seen. > > This is one of the apps that MACR uses to showcase the FlexFlash RIA. > > It just isn't fast enough to be usable, especially when you consider > the amount of client resources it consumes to attain poor UI > performance. My particular criticism is with the expanding and > collapsing of the folders -- where only client-side RIA processing is > performed, > > Two days ago I learned about XUL. > > XUL looks like a possible RIA solution & that too, has been discussed > in other threads. > > To prove to myself that the Flash Tree example was, indeed a poor > performer, I decided to write a comparable tree menu in XUL. All I > really did was create (part of) the tree. Selecting an > item/document/leaf node doesn't do anything. I nested the folders 3 > levels deep and duplicated the "Component Library" outer node enough > times to get a tree larger than the code explorer. This is enough to > compare expand/collapse with the Flash tree. > > Here it is. You need a current Mozilla or FireFox browser tto render > XUL. > > http://67.124.145.42/XUL/XULSampleTreeMenu.xul > > Put this up, side-by-side with the Flex Code Explorer at: > > http://macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# > > Expand enough folders on each to get the window scrolling. Then > expand/collapse the top node. > > Why is Flash so slow? > > Thoughts! > > Dick > > P.S. Display source and you will see the entire XUL program. > > P.P.S. The XUL page may be slow to download -- The site is on my > development machine which is quite busy -- JRUN/CFMX/MySQL, > VirtualPC/WIN XP, 2 streamers, lots of browser windows & a few desktop > apps > > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
CFMX 6.1 and JRUN
I am having some trouble understanding the CFMX deployment onto JRUN and how it all ties into IIS. I am hoping that someone might be able to confirm my understanding and assist me in my problem. Machine setup: Windows XP Pro SP2 w/ IIS 6 JRUN (trial version): C:\JRun4 Test Website: D:\Web\Test I also have two CFMX 6.1 packages (EAR) sitting at: C:\Test1 and C:\Test2 Config Steps (as I did them): JRun Management console Created a new server called Test1 Deleted default-ear from JRun4\servers\Test1\ Placed cfusion-ear into JRun4\servers\Test1\ JRun Management Console to start the Test1 server. Went into the J2EE components for Test1 and added CFMX as an Enterprise Application ColdFusion MX the context path is set to /TEST1 ColdFusion MX Document Root is set to D:\Web\Test1 I then opened up the JRun "Web Server Configuration Tool": JRun Host: localhost JRun Server: Test1 Web Server: IIS IIS Website: ALL (for now)..until I understand how this all works Checked the "configure for CMFX box" Clicked OK. The site asnwers on: http://localhost:8101/Test1/index.cfm My questions are: How do I get the site to answer on port 80? What If I want to deploy 3 instances of CFMX (1 per application) all answering on port 80? For example: http://localhost/Test1/index.cfm http://localhost/Test2/index.cfm http://localhost/Test3/index.cfm Thanks! Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
Nope, this is just a pure web server. All we have is IIS and CFMX installed. We got the error when restarting the server, not when RDSing. Very odd. If anyone from MM has some insight, please share. John Burns -Original Message- From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? I was one of the people looking for a fix for this a few months ago. I see this error when I try to RDS to a client's server. Not sure if this is the same issue. I can't say for sure but, it looks like the RDS call does not time out. So, if you have your Max number of connections set to 2 and you attempt to connect via RDS twice you have no available "connections" and the server is "dead" until someone dismisses the pop up messages. I don't have access to this server so most of this is second hand from the client and thus can not test this theory. I am not aware of any current fix for this. I have heard of a rumor that there is a CFMX 6.1 service pack / hot fix roll up / point upgrade (not sure what it will be officially be called) in the works and that issues like this should be address by it. Just out of curiosity do you have the Novell client installed on the server? Mark W. Breneman -Cold Fusion Developer -Network Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming up before, but since the search is disabled on the archives, I can't seem to find info on it. Any ideas? John Burns _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
Thanks Adam :-) That helps a lot. Any clue as to why JRUN is expecting one? John -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? Hrmm... sounds like you need a disk in the A drive. :) > -Original Message- > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2004 02:20 PM > To: 'CF-Talk' > Subject: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? > > Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error > saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming up before, > but since the search is disabled on the archives, I can't seem to find > info on it. Any ideas? > > John Burns > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: End of session
> Parts of the application I'm working on are usable to > unauthenticated users and parts are not. In my cflogin I'm > looking at whether the user's request should be authenticated > or not. The issue I've run into is when the user's session > times out while they're using the app, and the next click is > for an unauthenticated area. Rather than have the user > continue to the unauthenticated area and receive the public > navigation bar (as opposed to the authenticated navigation) > I'd like the user to be forwarded to the login screen. > > In the list archives there's an exchange about wanting an > ASP-style OnEndSession event and how that doesn't really > exist in CF. Assuming that's still true, does anyone have a > workaround? One thing that comes to mind is letting the user > know their session is timing out via popup. > The other option might be appending a URL parameter whenever > the user is logged in. The logic in the cflogin would see > that the user isn't logged in and that the URL parameter says > they were and therefore the user should be directed to the > login screen rather than the public area they were requesting. I would probably use a cookie instead of a URL parameter, but in general, your idea about having a separate token for previously authenticated users is how I think I'd handle the situation, if I wanted the same outcome as you. But why not just let the user decide that for herself? You can let the user know when logging in how long a session will last, and document what happens when a session ends, so that the user can choose to login again if that's appropriate, or skip it if it's not necessary. I realize that this might not be appropriate for your situation; I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Apr 7, 2004, at 7:33 AM, Brandon Purcell wrote: > Dick, > > The Flash examples you mention run fine on my machine and I do not > notice any significant sluggishness. I am only talking about one example -- and I have run this with my normal mix of other apps and as the only thing running -- one browser window with the Code Explorer popup. It takes about .5 - 1.5 sec to expand collapse the top Code explorer node, often with a noticeable pause. I am running on a 1GHz Mac PB with ! Gig RAM. Here are my numbers (activity monitor) for resource utilization of the Code Explorer> Mozilla 1.6 Mac OS X 10.3.3 CPU % Threads Real Mem Virt Mem --- --- - -- No windows open. .6% 11 33M402M Mozilla Home page HTML (1).. .6% 12 35M404M Flex Product page (2)... 9-13% 16 48M420M Flex Samples (Code) Explorer Popup (3).. 15-24% 20 67M441M Flex Explorer Popup (4)7-10% 12 61M432M (1) Simple animation (gifs, etc) (2) http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/?promoid=home_prod_flex_111703# (3) takes 7 seconds to load and about 3 seconds to render) (3) these measurements have the flex product page and the popup open concurrently (4) Popup window is the only window open I don't the problem is a slower machine. The resource utilization issue is an important one -- As multiple RIA windows compete with each other and other desktop applications. > On slower machines I do see some issues but I think the comparisons > you are drawing are not exactly fair. The XUL examples I have seen are > not exactly visually stunning. Also, currently XUL is very limited on > what browsers it can be ran on. > I agree, but RIA, does not necessarily connote "visually stunning". I would suggest that: Rich on Function, Rich in Intuitiveness, Rich in Performance and Rich in Usability are at least as importance as appearance. > I reviewed several of the examples at > http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xulqa/ and they are all pretty > simple UI's. Although they are more responsive they do not look > anything like the examples that Flex provides. > I agree, the examples are poor, the tutorial, even worse. You wouldn't believe how long I had to search for an example or explanation of how to do a nested tree menu. A point, worth noting though, A "simple UI" is often the best UI. > If you look at how the flash player has changed over the last few > versions you will see that performance has improved and the > actionscript language has continued to evolve as well. Performance > enhancements are high on the priority list for the Flash player and > performance issues are not being ignored. > I have to agree with that -- until recently I would not have considered Flash for a pedestrian UI -- just for special needs. The performance improvements in Flash MX have certainly broadened the places where it can be used -- I just want more! I did try one app with a data grid and Flash Remoting to perform real-time sparse updating of table cells -- performance was twice as slow as a complete page refresh of the equivalent html table and 4 times slower than a hidden frame sparse update. But I will keep trying until one (or both) of us gets it right Dick > Brandon > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: help, cfmx 6.1 just hangs!
Apache 2.0.46 Thanks Dave Watts wrote: > > I am running CFMX 6.1 on RHEL3 with Apache. > > What version of Apache are you using? > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > phone: 202-797-5496 > fax: 202-797-5444 > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Apr 7, 2004, at 8:13 AM, Greg Luce wrote: > Wow, you're right. That Flex Code Explorer is horrible. It even kinda > "shudders" when it's expanding and collapsing. And the app takes > around > a minute to load. > > Why is any of this better than a DHMTL tree with nice little images? > > The biggest disadvantage to DHTML is that it is difficult to make it work the same way on different browsers/platforms -- y' never quite get there. Java applets try to address this, but there is no guarantee what the Java environment will be on any given client machine -- write once, debug everywhere. XUL attempts to resolve this by 1) limiting browser choice in the short run; 2) posing standards in the long run -- don't know if this will work. Flash does the best job (hence its ubiquity) by providing consistent plugins for most browsers/platforms. But, at least for now, the Flash solution has a price in overhead and performance. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
How about disabling the disk drive in the BIOS of the machine in question. I have not used a floppy in over 2 years. :-) Mike > > Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error > > saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming > up before, [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
Hey All, We have a prod server setup as follows: -Linux RedHat 9.1 -Apache -CF MX 6.1 Standard Intermittently we are having the contents of various cookies spit out to the screen (and that screen does not display as intended). The cookies hold queries (some empty and some with 1 record per cookie) which have been serialized into WDDX packets (so they can be used as cookie values). I'm still pretty new to a Linux/Apache setup and am wondering if mabye header info is the culprit?? Here's some header related info that was spit out along with the cookie values: location: public.cfm?pg=reg_2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Age: 1 Connection: close Via: HTTP/1.1 ntl_site (Traffic-Server/5.2.4 [cMs f ]) Any ideas folks? Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:20 pm, Marlon Moyer wrote: > cross browser libraries available. IE6 and Mozilla derrivations are close enough in standards conformance now for you not to need one, unless you are targeting older browsers too. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFMX 6.1 and JRUN
> I am having some trouble understanding the CFMX deployment > onto JRUN and how it all ties into IIS. In general, the way it ties into IIS is the same as the way the standalone CFMX "server configuration" does. When you run the web server configuration tool, you associate one or more IIS virtual servers with a CFMX/JRun server instance. > Config Steps (as I did them): > > JRun Management console > Created a new server called Test1 > Deleted default-ear from JRun4\servers\Test1\ Placed > cfusion-ear into JRun4\servers\Test1\ JRun Management Console > to start the Test1 server. > Went into the J2EE components for Test1 and added CFMX as an > Enterprise Application ColdFusion MX the context path is set > to /TEST1 ColdFusion MX Document Root is set to D:\Web\Test1 Did you expand cfusion-ear and cfusion-war? I haven't tried doing an install without manually expanding the EAR and WAR files as described in the MM online documentation. When you expand the files manually, you shouldn't then have to make any additional changes within the JRun management console, if I recall correctly. Did you edit the application.xml file within \jrun4\servers\Test1\cfusion-ear\META-INF so that it has the correct context root? > I then opened up the JRun "Web Server Configuration Tool": > > JRun Host: localhost > JRun Server: Test1 > Web Server: IIS > IIS Website: ALL (for now)..until I understand how this all > works Checked the "configure for CMFX box" > Clicked OK. > > The site asnwers on: http://localhost:8101/Test1/index.cfm > > > My questions are: > > How do I get the site to answer on port 80? If you've configured IIS using the web server configuration tool, and your IIS virtual server is listening on port 80, that should be all you need to do. > What If I want to deploy 3 instances of CFMX (1 per > application) all answering on port 80? > > For example: > http://localhost/Test1/index.cfm > http://localhost/Test2/index.cfm > http://localhost/Test3/index.cfm If you plan to have multiple applications within a single IIS virtual server, each one will need a unique context root. You should then be able to configure each to work with the same IIS virtual server using wsconfig. I haven't actually done this too much, since most of the environments I work with use a single application or a JRun cluster per virtual server, but it should be pretty straightforward. Alternatively, you could set up three different IIS virtual servers, and configure each one to use a different CFMX/JRun instance. All three IIS virtual servers could listen on port 80 as long as they use host-headers to differentiate incoming requests. You should've asked me this on Friday - I'd have been happy to demonstrate it! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Show status during long request
Thanks a lot for that snippet. -Original Message- From: Michael Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Show status during long request Hi, This is what I use:
function showMessage () {
if (document.layers) {
document.LoadingMessage.display = 'none';
document.Content.visibility = 'visible';
}
else if (document.all) {
document.all.LoadingMessage.style.display = 'none';
document.all.Content.style.visibility = 'visible';
}
else if (document.getElementById) {
document.getElementById('LoadingMessage').style.display = 'none';
document.getElementById('Content').style.visibility = 'visible';
}
}
Loading message Content Best regards, Michael Wilson From: Nathan C. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Show status during long request Hi, I have a page that takes a long time to process, I would like to update the user, or at least hide the form that appears on the page, while the pages are processing. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
> We have a prod server setup as follows: > -Linux RedHat 9.1 > -Apache > -CF MX 6.1 Standard > > Intermittently we are having the contents of various cookies > spit out to the screen (and that screen does not display as > intended). The cookies hold queries (some empty and some > with 1 record per cookie) which have been serialized into > WDDX packets (so they can be used as cookie values). > > I'm still pretty new to a Linux/Apache setup and am wondering > if mabye header info is the culprit?? > > Here's some header related info that was spit out along with > the cookie > values: > location: public.cfm?pg=reg_2 Content-Type: text/html; > charset=UTF-8 Age: 1 > Connection: close Via: HTTP/1.1 ntl_site > (Traffic-Server/5.2.4 [cMs f ]) It looks to me like you have some sort of proxy in between, which is screwing up your HTTP response header and body data. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:39 pm, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > I'm still pretty new to a Linux/Apache setup and am wondering if mabye > header info is the culprit?? Are you using cfheader or something ? > (Traffic-Server/5.2.4 [cMs f ]) What's that ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
SQL INSERT error on large amount of text
I am getting a problem in inserting data into a table. I have a form, which is made up of INPUT and TEXTAREA fields. When trying to insert into a memo field from a textarea through I get an error [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Visual FoxPro Driver]Command contains unrecognized phrase/keyword. This only happens when there is a lot of text in the textarea but it would work fine if a small amount of text is submitted. I was told to try but after installing ColdFusion I can no longer amend my tables to turn on auto number and I have to now enter text in all fields due to the tables now set that all fields are required. I also find that after saving a form a couple of times DreamweaverMX start to take very long to save a couple lines of script. This is driving me up the wall. Can any one help? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
PIA name already taken
For those throwing the "PIA" moniker around as an acronym for Poor Internet Application, it's already taken. Sorry Rob. http://www.risource.org/PIA/PIA_FAQ.shtml * What is the Platform for Information Applications (PIA)? The PIA is a framework for building information applications -- systems that embed a small amount of processing in a large amount of information. In the PIA framework, each application consists of two parts: 1.. A collection of task-specific XML pages which contain active-processing tags (, , ,, etc); These look very much like HTML pages. 2.. A core software layer (including a dynamic XML processor) that is shared by all applications The goal is to make active pages which are both easier to customize and more powerful than ordinary web pages. ** -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:33 pm, Dick Applebaum wrote: > The biggest disadvantage to DHTML is that it is difficult to make it > work the same way on different browsers/platforms -- y' never quite get > there. Having just writen a DHTML tree control, with pengoworks (soon neuromancer) dynamic node loading, I'd say it's perfectly possible :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: PIA name already taken
How 'bout "Zadora" -- Marlon Moyer, Sr. Internet Developer American Contractors Insurance Group phone: 972.687.9445 fax: 972.687.0607 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.acig.com > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:52 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: PIA name already taken > > For those throwing the "PIA" moniker around as an acronym for Poor > Internet > Application, it's already taken. Sorry Rob. > > http://www.risource.org/PIA/PIA_FAQ.shtml > > * > What is the Platform for Information Applications (PIA)? > > The PIA is a framework for building information applications -- systems > that > embed a small amount of processing in a large amount of information. In > the > PIA framework, each application consists of two parts: > > 1.. A collection of task-specific XML pages which contain > active-processing tags (, , ,, etc); These look very > much like HTML pages. > 2.. A core software layer (including a dynamic XML processor) that is > shared by all applications > The goal is to make active pages which are both easier to customize and > more > powerful than ordinary web pages. > > ** > > -Kevin > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question)
Does CF have a hard-limit on number of characters for string variables? Do form posts from textareas themselves have a hard-limit? We have a database column of type nText which is truncating well before the (2^30)-1 character limit and I suspect an internal CF limit may be the culprit. Thanks! Brendan [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: PIA name already taken
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:52 pm, Kevin Graeme wrote: > For those throwing the "PIA" moniker around as an acronym for Poor Internet We'll have to use PPIA then :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
AXIS error
I have created a very simple CFC that returns an XML string. If I test the page by calling the CFC and dumping the results in a CFM page, no problem -- the XML is properly displayed in the browser. However, as soon as I try and call it as a web service, I get the following error: Could not generate stub objects for web service invocation. Name: http://xxx/ws/xxx.cfc?WSDL. WSDL: http://xxx/ws/xxx.cfc?WSDL. org.xml.sax.SAXException: Fatal Error: URI=null Line=2: Illegal character at end of document, <. If I then try and call the CFC directly in my browser, I get the enormously long stack trace at the bottom of this message in my browser window. A search on Google/MM Forums shows that other people have had similar problems, but there's never been an solution posted. I opened webservices.jar in WinZip and noticed that there indeed is not a SimpleHTTPSender.class file. I'm using Solaris 8, internal JWS, CFMX for J2EE on JRun 4. I applied the webservices.jar security bulletin to my install, but even rolling back and restarting doesn't help. Any ideas? Regards, Dave. AXIS error Sorry, something seems to have gone wrong... here are the details: Fault - ; nested exception is: org.apache.axis.ConfigurationException: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: SimpleHTTPSender java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: SimpleHTTPSender at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:199) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:187) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:289) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapClassLoader.loadClass(BootstrapClassLoader.java:142) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:235) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:302) at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:141) at org.apache.axis.utils.ClassUtils$2.run(ClassUtils.java:197) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.apache.axis.utils.ClassUtils.loadClass(ClassUtils.java:171) at org.apache.axis.utils.ClassUtils.forName(ClassUtils.java:112) at org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDTargetedChain.makeNewInstance(WSDDTargetedChain.java:196) at org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDDeployableItem.getNewInstance(WSDDDeployableItem.java:310) at org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDDeployableItem.getInstance(WSDDDeployableItem.java:296) at org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDDeployment.getTransport(WSDDDeployment.java:470) at org.apache.axis.configuration.FileProvider.getTransport(FileProvider.java:282) at org.apache.axis.AxisEngine.getTransport(AxisEngine.java:283) at org.apache.axis.server.AxisServer.generateWSDL(AxisServer.java:458) at org.apache.axis.transport.http.AxisServlet.processWsdlRequest(AxisServlet.java:484) at org.apache.axis.transport.http.AxisServlet.doGet(AxisServlet.java:285) at coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCServlet.doAxisGet(CFCServlet.java:94) at coldfusion.filter.AxisFilter.invoke(AxisFilter.java:36) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:107) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:80) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:43) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22) at coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCServlet.invoke(CFCServlet.java:62) at coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCServlet.doGet(CFCServlet.java:113) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:740) at org.apache.axis.transport.http.AxisServletBase.service(AxisServletBase.java:339) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:252) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527) at jrun.servlet.http.WebService.invokeRunnable(WebService.java:168) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:451) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) org.apache.axis.ConfigurationException: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: SimpleHTTPSender java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: SimpleHTTPSender at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:199) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:187) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:289) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapClassLoader.loadClass(BootstrapClassLoader.java:142) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:235) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:302) at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.f
Re: SQL INSERT error on large amount of text
Are you using cfqueryparam? If not what are you doing to escape characters like ' ,"; etc? Kore Peterson John Croney <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> net.com> cc: Subject: SQL INSERT error on large amount of text 04/07/2004 10:44 AM Please respond to cf-talk I am getting a problem in inserting data into a table. I have a form, which is made up of INPUT and TEXTAREA fields. When trying to insert into a memo field from a textarea through I get an error [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Visual FoxPro Driver]Command contains unrecognized phrase/keyword. This only happens when there is a lot of text in the textarea but it would work fine if a small amount of text is submitted. I was told to try but after installing ColdFusion I can no longer amend my tables to turn on auto number and I have to now enter text in all fields due to the tables now set that all fields are required. I also find that after saving a form a couple of times DreamweaverMX start to take very long to save a couple lines of script. This is driving me up the wall. Can any one help? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
I really wish that I could reproduce this problem on one of my dev servers. Since I see this problem on one of my clients production servers I can't really play with It and try to resolve it. I have a few guesses on what may cause the problem. Check your system path, see if a:\ is in the system path (Go to a command prompt and type "path") Check your CF logs. CFusionMX\logs. See if there is some clue in there. Try disabling RDS if you can Any chance you have a database mapped to the A: drive? You may want to take a peak at the neo-query.xml file. I know that windows has a registry value for the "install path". I wonder if CFMX has something similar. Anyone? Seems like this is something that MAY be able to be tweaked in one of the XML jrun or neo config files. But, I'm not officially suggesting that you go out and start editing those files. ;-) Mark W. Breneman -Cold Fusion Developer -Network Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? Nope, this is just a pure web server. All we have is IIS and CFMX installed. We got the error when restarting the server, not when RDSing. Very odd. If anyone from MM has some insight, please share. John Burns -Original Message- From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? I was one of the people looking for a fix for this a few months ago. I see this error when I try to RDS to a client's server. Not sure if this is the same issue. I can't say for sure but, it looks like the RDS call does not time out. So, if you have your Max number of connections set to 2 and you attempt to connect via RDS twice you have no available "connections" and the server is "dead" until someone dismisses the pop up messages. I don't have access to this server so most of this is second hand from the client and thus can not test this theory. I am not aware of any current fix for this. I have heard of a rumor that there is a CFMX 6.1 service pack / hot fix roll up / point upgrade (not sure what it will be officially be called) in the works and that issues like this should be address by it. Just out of curiosity do you have the Novell client installed on the server? Mark W. Breneman -Cold Fusion Developer -Network Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming up before, but since the search is disabled on the archives, I can't seem to find info on it. Any ideas? John Burns _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question)
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:56 pm, Brendan Baldwin wrote: > Does CF have a hard-limit on number of characters for string variables? Do > form posts from textareas themselves have a hard-limit? We have a database I think most browsers will refuse to send back more than about 2K of form data. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question)
> Does CF have a hard-limit on number of characters for string > variables? I would guess that CFMX has the same limitations that Java has, with regard to underlying datatypes. Unfortunately, being a lousy Java programmer, I'm not aware of what those are. > Do form posts from textareas themselves have a hard-limit? Yes, I believe that the limit in most browsers is 65K. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: AXIS error
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:57 pm, Dave Carabetta wrote: > org.xml.sax.SAXException: Fatal Error: URI=null Line=2: Illegal character > at end of document, <. What character code is that ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question)
I suppose another possible culprit would be the datasource, have you enabled clobs? just a thought. -Original Message- From: Brendan Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2004 16:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question) Does CF have a hard-limit on number of characters for string variables? Do form posts from textareas themselves have a hard-limit? We have a database column of type nText which is truncating well before the (2^30)-1 character limit and I suspect an internal CF limit may be the culprit. Thanks! Brendan _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: PIA name already taken
p**s poor internet applications ? ;-) -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2004 16:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: PIA name already taken On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:52 pm, Kevin Graeme wrote: > For those throwing the "PIA" moniker around as an acronym for Poor Internet We'll have to use PPIA then :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFMX 6.1 and JRUN
> Did you expand cfusion-ear and cfusion-war? I haven't tried > doing an install without manually expanding the EAR and WAR > files as described in the MM online documentation. When you > expand the files manually, you shouldn't then have to make > any additional changes within the JRun management console, if > I recall correctly. I did not expand them manually as shown online, I did it through JRUN... Which might be an issue. > Did you edit the application.xml file within > \jrun4\servers\Test1\cfusion-ear\META-INF so that it has the > correct context root? This too might be a problem, because I have the following path to the applicatiion.xml file C:\JRun4\servers\Test1\SERVER-INF\temp\cfusion.ear1555075785\META-INF (yikes!) > If you plan to have multiple applications within a single IIS > virtual server, each one will need a unique context root. You > should then be able to configure each to work with the same > IIS virtual server using wsconfig. I haven't actually done > this too much, since most of the environments I work with use > a single application or a JRun cluster per virtual server, > but it should be pretty straightforward. I guess I need to get my terminology straight... I am looking to have each application run in its own environment (context?) (separate cf admins for each application) and at the same time be listening on port 80. I'll start over and see if I can make some headway. > You should've asked me this on Friday - I'd have been happy > to demonstrate it! I wish I would have! I guess I was too focused on busting into the online auction site with my new found security vulnerability info :-) Thanks Dave, Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
Thomas asked: Are you using cfheader or something ? > (Traffic-Server/5.2.4 [cMs f ]) Yes we do. We stick the query in the cookie and then have to use the code below becauase we can't use CFLOCATION after setting a cookie: Dave Watts said: It looks to me like you have some sort of proxy in between, which is screwing up your HTTP response header and body data. Not that I know of Dave...where do you suggest I look? on the client? with the ISP hosting this co-located server? somewhere else? Thanks guys Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:44 AM Subject: Re: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:39 pm, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > I'm still pretty new to a Linux/Apache setup and am wondering if mabye > header info is the culprit?? Are you using cfheader or something ? > (Traffic-Server/5.2.4 [cMs f ]) What's that ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: PIA name already taken
On Apr 7, 2004, at 8:52 AM, Kevin Graeme wrote: > For those throwing the "PIA" moniker around as an acronym for Poor > Internet > Application, it's already taken. Sorry Rob. > > Yeah, and Apple is the company that publishes all the Beatles music, etc.:) Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: PIA name already taken
On Apr 7, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Thomas Chiverton wrote: > We'll have to use PPIA then :-) Now, *that* I can sell -- can I be the West Cast distributor? Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
On Apr 7, 2004, at 8:49 AM, Thomas Chiverton wrote: > On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:33 pm, Dick Applebaum wrote: > > The biggest disadvantage to DHTML is that it is difficult to make it > > work the same way on different browsers/platforms -- y' never quite > get > > there. > > Having just writen a DHTML tree control, with pengoworks (soon > neuromancer) > dynamic node loading, I'd say it's perfectly possible :-) > Are you going to try thin arrays with the pengo, too? Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: AXIS error
>On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 16:57 pm, Dave Carabetta wrote:
> > org.xml.sax.SAXException: Fatal Error: URI=null Line=2: Illegal
>character
> > at end of document, <.
>
>What character code is that ?
>
It's the "<" symbol. However, I think that the error above is cause by the
stack trace error returned that I pasted in as opposed to my code. As I
said, I can call this CFC using createObject("component") just without
issue. The real problem (I think, but who knows) is that AXIS is looking for
a class in webservices.jar called SimpleHTTPSender that doesn't exist is any
version of webservices.jar that I've unzipped (originally shipped, hotfix,
and security bulletin versions).
Regards,
Dave.
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RE: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT
Dave, Thanks. So, if we did get Enterprise, what would be necessary. Would I use the db security (Oracle/SQL Server/Access) or something else? Pat -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT > I am using Dreamweaver mx and CFMX 6.1 professional and > would like to use RDS support. This would only be used on our > dev boxes. We have lots of curators and databases. We would > like to sandbox these databases so that a given curator can > only see his/her tables/views in all of their databases. > Because the data is sensitive, we don't want everyone seeing > this data. I hope this explains our situation. I have been > told by others this is not possible. Any help would be > appreciated. Unfortunately, I doubt that you'll be able to do exactly what you want. Within CFMX 6.1, you only have one RDS password, which you'd have to give to all your RDS-enabled curators. This password would allow anyone with RDS access to browse all of the databases that CFMX has been configured to use, and edit any of the CFM files on the CF server's filesystem, assuming the default filesystem ACLs have not been changed. You could avoid placing usernames and passwords in your CFMX datasources, which would prevent people from browsing them through RDS, but I'm not sure whether RDS will then give you a database login prompt to allow you to enter that information then. Even if it does, you'd then have to pass USERNAME and PASSWORD attributes within each CFQUERY tag, and one RDS user could simply read the files of another user to find out the username and password. This might be sufficient for your needs, but obviously it isn't a guarantee of security. You might instead consider setting up separate instances of CFMX, which unfortunately would require that you purchase Enterprise edition. This would allow you to isolate each curator. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: PIA name already taken
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 17:04 pm, Craig Dudley wrote: > p**s poor internet applications ? ;-) Would I... :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: PIA name already taken
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 17:09 pm, Dick Applebaum wrote: > On Apr 7, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Thomas Chiverton wrote: > > We'll have to use PPIA then :-) > Now, *that* I can sell -- can I be the West Cast distributor? If you want. :registers trademark, patent and domain :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 17:06 pm, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > Just those two one the page ? No fusebox or anything ? > Not that I know of Dave...where do you suggest I look? on the client? with > the ISP hosting this co-located server? somewhere else? Ask the hosting company - something that looks like a load balencer, failover or other proxy is messing with the headers, it seems. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question)
Ah, after Dave said 65k, made me think, isn't the datasource long text buffer size 65000 bytes by default? Could this be your issue? -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley Sent: 07 April 2004 17:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question) I suppose another possible culprit would be the datasource, have you enabled clobs? just a thought. -Original Message- From: Brendan Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2004 16:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: String Length Hard-Limit (NOT a RegEx question) Does CF have a hard-limit on number of characters for string variables? Do form posts from textareas themselves have a hard-limit? We have a database column of type nText which is truncating well before the (2^30)-1 character limit and I suspect an internal CF limit may be the culprit. Thanks! Brendan _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RIA options, Flex Flash and others.
Hi Christian, Is the 'slowness' done on purpose or by accident. I've created Flash reports which render instantly and some 'slower' for effect? Is this for 'effect'??? Pat -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RIA options, Flex Flash and others. Hi, Christian On Apr 7, 2004, at 7:09 AM, Christian Cantrell wrote: > > I actually don't find the performance to be all that bad. I guess that performance is like beauty -- in the eye of the beholder. Its a nit, I admit -- but if it can't do a simple thing and perform well then that could easily taint one's overall perception of the product. > Your XUL > example is obviously much faster, however as Sam pointed out, that's > not really a fair comparison. I would like to see a Fair comparison --maybe, Ill write a Flash tree myself. I think it would help if Macr would include some explanation, on the site, of what's happening -- it is noticeably slower than any menu trees I've seen -- maybe with good reason. > Additionally, I don't think XUL is a > very viable solution given the size of the audience that it > addresses. Ah, but that logic has flaws too, I can remember, not too long ago, when CF had a minor market share. Also, IMO, one of the (several) reasons that IE won the browser wars was that its browser provided function (via ActiveX) that was either not available or not usable (read download time and performance of applets) in other browsers. If the only way a user can get the function and/or performance he needs is to download a free browser or plugin -- then why wouldn't he. I sit here on a Mac and if I want to develop a UI that includes a wysiwig editor, my choice is pretty clear -- I must develop for IE on windows platform. So far, all the Mac editors I've seen are wygiwyw (pronounced Wiggy-Woo) -- What You Get Isn't What You Want! Theoretically, one should be able to write a pretty good editor in Flash, that would be platform/browser independent! Is guess the point is: Ubiquity is not the only consideration and it can be a fleeting advantage, > Performance is your point, however, and not ubiquity, so I will say > that although I find the performance of Flex applications to be quite > acceptable, Macromedia is fully aware of the importance of performance > as it relates to our RIA strategy. I obviously can't get into > specifics, but I will say that performance is a big priority at > Macromedia. > > I would expect no less, but that is good to hear, anyway Macr has a proven track record when it comes to expending the resource necessary to attain the performance and quality needed to produce a superior product -- CFMX/JRun attest to that! I do look forward to using Flash for RIAs Guess I'll crack open that Flex evaluation CD & see what happens. Dick _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Flex not?
Well I just put the Flex CD in & followed the read me to the installer page at Macr. Much to my disappointment, no Mac OS X support. Has anyone done this? Should I even bother? Anyone want a Flex trial CD? Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Importing DSN's
Is there a quick and easy way to import all DSN's from one CFMX 6.0 Standard box to another CFMX 6.1 Standard box? -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Importing DSN's
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 17:26 pm, Ian Skinner wrote: > Is there a quick and easy way to import all DSN's from one CFMX 6.0 > Standard box to another CFMX 6.1 Standard box? Copy neo-query.xml, iirc. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A?
Sorry, I've never run into this error on any of my servers. All I have to offer is sarcasm. -Adam > -Original Message- > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2004 03:21 PM > To: 'CF-Talk' > Subject: RE: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? > > Thanks Adam :-) That helps a lot. Any clue as to why JRUN is expecting > one? > > John > > -Original Message- > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:04 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? > > Hrmm... sounds like you need a disk in the A drive. :) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2004 02:20 PM > > To: 'CF-Talk' > > Subject: JRUN Error: No disk in drive A? > > > > Anyone know why a server wouldn't restart while giving a JRUN error > > saying there is no disk in Drive A? I remember this coming up before, > > > but since the search is disabled on the archives, I can't seem to find > > > info on it. Any ideas? > > > > John Burns > > > > > > > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Flex not?
> I just put the Flex CD in & followed the read me to the > installer page at Macr. > > Much to my disappointment, no Mac OS X support. > > Has anyone done this? > > Should I even bother? > > Anyone want a Flex trial CD? This is an unsupported guess, but I suspect you can install it on OS X, even though the installer is a Windows binary. You may need to install it on Windows first, but the install basically deploys an EAR or WAR file (I forget which) onto a J2EE server, if I recall correctly. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
Hey Thomas, Nope...no FuseBox. The order of events on this page: -CFPARAM all form vars to blank and display empty form -user fills and posts form (form posts back to itself) -validate user enetered data -if errors re-display form with error message at top -if no errors -create query -add row to query -stuff form data in row one of query -serialize query into WDDX packet -set cookie with value of packet -use those 2 tags to redirect user to next page in the process Basically we use cookies with queries serialized into WDDX packets and stuffed into cookies instead of CF built-in session management. It's a multi-step reg process and we commit all the data at the end. This cookie usage allows us to have user go back and edit any step just like if SESSION vars were used. I've simply never trusted built-in session managemnet and have always rolled my own...then there is nobody to blame but me ;-) Hope that sheds some light Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Chiverton To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: Re: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 17:06 pm, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > Just those two one the page ? No fusebox or anything ? > Not that I know of Dave...where do you suggest I look? on the client? with > the ISP hosting this co-located server? somewhere else? Ask the hosting company - something that looks like a load balencer, failover or other proxy is messing with the headers, it seems. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flex not?
On Apr 7, 2004, at 9:51 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > This is an unsupported guess, but I suspect you can install it on OS > X, even > though the installer is a Windows binary. You may need to install it > on > Windows first, but the install basically deploys an EAR or WAR file (I > forget which) onto a J2EE server, if I recall correctly. > > Thanks, Dave -- I'll give it a try. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: End of session
I'm trying to do something similar to this.
I've tweaked the code from the easycfm.com tutorial for the user
authentication (login) area so that the user will be redirected to the
directory on the server that is their username.
http://tutorial8.easycfm.com
I've also placed the application.cfm file in each directory that needs
to be authenticated. If the user bookmarks and tries to access the
directory without first being authenticated, it will take them back to
the login.cfm file at the root level. The works well but when the user
is authenticated for their particular directory, they could (if they
happen to know the names of the other directories) access all
directories.
Is there a way to set the back to False
anytime the user leaves the directory they're in? When I tried to
redirect the user back to login.cfm with a
('session.allowin')>, it would always throw me back to the login page.
Can this be done as I've tried to explain it?
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: End of session
> Parts of the application I'm working on are usable to
> unauthenticated users and parts are not. In my cflogin I'm
> looking at whether the user's request should be authenticated
> or not. The issue I've run into is when the user's session
> times out while they're using the app, and the next click is
> for an unauthenticated area. Rather than have the user
> continue to the unauthenticated area and receive the public
> navigation bar (as opposed to the authenticated navigation)
> I'd like the user to be forwarded to the login screen.
>
> In the list archives there's an exchange about wanting an
> ASP-style OnEndSession event and how that doesn't really
> exist in CF. Assuming that's still true, does anyone have a
> workaround? One thing that comes to mind is letting the user
> know their session is timing out via popup.
> The other option might be appending a URL parameter whenever
> the user is logged in. The logic in the cflogin would see
> that the user isn't logged in and that the URL parameter says
> they were and therefore the user should be directed to the
> login screen rather than the public area they were requesting.
I would probably use a cookie instead of a URL parameter, but in
general,
your idea about having a separate token for previously authenticated
users
is how I think I'd handle the situation, if I wanted the same outcome as
you.
But why not just let the user decide that for herself? You can let the
user
know when logging in how long a session will last, and document what
happens
when a session ends, so that the user can choose to login again if
that's
appropriate, or skip it if it's not necessary. I realize that this might
not
be appropriate for your situation; I'm just throwing it out there as a
possibility.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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cflogin
hi there. ive just started to use cflogin/cfloginuser/cflogout and am wondering if a user is logged in, does the cfmx server manage if that person's session is timed out or not and prevent getAuthUser from being set if so? thanks ...tony tony weeg senior web applications architect navtrak, inc. www.navtrak.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: dreamweaver mx/cfmx 6.1 rds - OT
> Thanks. So, if we did get Enterprise, what would be > necessary. Would I use the db security (Oracle/SQL > Server/Access) or something else? At that point, you wouldn't need to rely on database security, in the sense that you wouldn't have to use USERNAME and PASSWORD attributes within CFQUERY. Instead, you'd have a different RDS password for each instance, and that instance would only allow connections to the specific databases for that application/user. You would, of course, still create individual logins within your database as appropriate. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
> Yes we do. We stick the query in the cookie and then have to > use the code below becauase we can't use CFLOCATION after > setting a cookie: > > > With CFMX, you can use CFCOOKIE and CFLOCATION successfully within the same page. > > It looks to me like you have some sort of proxy in between, > > which is screwing up your HTTP response header and body data. > > Not that I know of Dave...where do you suggest I look? on the > client? with the ISP hosting this co-located server? somewhere > else? I'm not sure, but where is the "(Traffic-Server/5.2.4 [cMs f ])" coming from? In general, the way you'd diagnose things like this is by the application of trial and error. For example, do you get this error from the server console? From other machines within the same network segment? Or only from the outside world? If so, from everywhere in the outside world, or only from specific locations? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: cflogin
CFLogin has it's own timeout and is not tied to the session scope. Unless you are using CFMX 6.1 and use the loginStorage="session" attribute of the CFAPPLICATION tag. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: cflogin
I am. so, with that, does it manage when a user is in, and prevent another from logging in with same info? tw -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cflogin CFLogin has it's own timeout and is not tied to the session scope. Unless you are using CFMX 6.1 and use the loginStorage="session" attribute of the CFAPPLICATION tag. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Need some backup here
I need a favor. Internal debate going on here about the feasability of multicast streaming. I'm being told that multicast enabled routers are not in high enough proliferation to warrant considering multicast applications. The following link is a test page for multicast (every router between you and the site would have to be multicast enabled in order for the test to be successful.) If any of you would please take thirty seconds to see if you pass and let me know what the results are I would appreciate it. TIA. The link: http://www.multicasttech.com/?main=mt/index2002.php3 Cutter [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness
Thanks Daveand especically for ther fact we can now use CFLOCATION and CFCOOKIE in the same page (the horrible part is I know recall seeing that when MX came out...geesh)!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Dave Watts To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: RE: CF MX/Linux/Apache/Cookie madness > Yes we do. We stick the query in the cookie and then have to > use the code below becauase we can't use CFLOCATION after > setting a cookie: > > > With CFMX, you can use CFCOOKIE and CFLOCATION successfully within the same page. > > It looks to me like you have some sort of proxy in between, > > which is screwing up your HTTP response header and body data. > > Not that I know of Dave...where do you suggest I look? on the > client? with the ISP hosting this co-located server? somewhere > else? I'm not sure, but where is the "(Traffic-Server/5.2.4 [cMs f ])" coming from? In general, the way you'd diagnose things like this is by the application of trial and error. For example, do you get this error from the server console? From other machines within the same network segment? Or only from the outside world? If so, from everywhere in the outside world, or only from specific locations? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
