Re: Farcry?

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
I worked (investigaged it) and it is an interesting implementation of
something called a COAPI (content object API) which is a way of
storing different types of "content".

The interesting way that FarCry does this is by extending an existing
type(farcry.type) component with your own types simply by creating a
component that extends farcry.type, you then have access to the
inherited methods (add , edit, delete, display etc).

The real interesting part IMHO is the way that you deploy the new
types and FarCry then creates database tables for each type.

Whether it is good or bad I think depends on your requirements.

I hope that helps! 

Have a look at:http://farcry.daemon.com.au/

Mark Drew

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:19:41 -0500, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to research Farcry as I've seen it mentioned on this
> forum several times.  I don't really get what it is yet.  Is a CMS
> only.  Is it a CMS that has a framework that can be extended for
> custom applications?  Has anyone worked with it, what is your take on
> it?
> 
> Marlon
> 
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RE: Farcry?

2004-06-28 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yeah, FarCry was born from the smouldering ruins of ideas gone by...i.e.
Spectra...(for those that can access memories that far back it was an
overweight application Framework)one diff is that FarCry is far
superior!

It does allow for custom application, even more so that some other limited
CMS tools out there...it has excellent database and logic abstraction layers
which you can leverage with custom code or you can just use it out of the
box

One major bonus is its free and when you see the amount of work put into
this tool you will be thankful..these guys have put a heck of a lock of work
on it - its has an active community (something which Spectra never really
had) and updates and technotes are aplenty.  

It has a pretty steep learning curve for those who want to get under the
hood IMO. It was designed to be updated easily without any impact on your
existing apps - so if a new version comes out its unzip to new DIR and boom
your ready to go...

Like Mark states, it does create tables per 'type' but its not big deal and
works very very well...

If you know or have worked on Spectra it will be a doddle for you : i.e. if
you are familiar with Object Based Development through types, properties and
objects.

If you want to work on it, head over to farcry.daemon.com.au and download
it.. you can also sign up to the mailing list

N





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From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 June 2004 09:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Farcry?

I worked (investigaged it) and it is an interesting implementation of
something called a COAPI (content object API) which is a way of
storing different types of "content".

The interesting way that FarCry does this is by extending an existing
type(farcry.type) component with your own types simply by creating a
component that extends farcry.type, you then have access to the
inherited methods (add , edit, delete, display etc).

The real interesting part IMHO is the way that you deploy the new
types and FarCry then creates database tables for each type.

Whether it is good or bad I think depends on your requirements.

I hope that helps! 

Have a look at:http://farcry.daemon.com.au/

Mark Drew

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:19:41 -0500, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to research Farcry as I've seen it mentioned on this
> forum several times.  I don't really get what it is yet.  Is a CMS
> only.  Is it a CMS that has a framework that can be extended for
> custom applications?  Has anyone worked with it, what is your take on
> it?
> 
> Marlon
> 
>

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dumb regex question

2004-06-28 Thread Paul Hastings
how do you escape a ":" as in "h:mm" in regex? i'm trying to replace that
string with a var & i'm getting h:replacementVar rather than the whole h:mm
string being replaced with replacementVar (i guess the ":" is being
interpretted as set of something, [:upper:]). also any idea what the
equivalent in js would be?

thanks.
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Re: dumb regex question

2004-06-28 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Paul Hastings wrote:

> how do you escape a ":" as in "h:mm" in regex? 

\:  (back-slash colon)

> i'm trying to replace that
> string with a var & i'm getting h:replacementVar rather than the whole 
> h:mm
> string being replaced with replacementVar (i guess the ":" is being
> interpretted as set of something, [:upper:]). also any idea what the
> equivalent in js would be?

I guess the whole thing is ^[0-9]{1}(\:)[0-9]{2}$

I have to say I'm guessing a bit here on the JS version, as I've only 
recently been doing regex in JS and I had to ask too... :)

Hope it helps

Stephen
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Re: how to open an attached file in its own application (ms-word, excel etc).. please read

2004-06-28 Thread cf coder
Hi Guys, I posted this thread on Friday. Can someone please answer my last query. Best regards,
cfcoder
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Re: how to open an attached file in its own application (ms-word, excel etc).. please read

2004-06-28 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
cf coder wrote:

> Hi Guys, I posted this thread on Friday. Can someone please answer my 
> last query. 

What ever happens the user will need to download the file.  You can't 
leave it on the server and open it from there.  Your only option is to 
educate the user on the use of "Save to Disk" and "Open" .

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RE: dumb regex question

2004-06-28 Thread Pascal Peters
: shouldn't be escaped. What is your regexp? What do you mean by
equivalent in JS? 

You can always escape a character by putting a \ in front of it (not for
alnum or you can get strange results), but there is only a limited
number of characters tht need escaping. Another thing you can do is make
it into a character set like [:].

Pascal

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: maandag 28 juni 2004 11:18
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: dumb regex question
> 
> how do you escape a ":" as in "h:mm" in regex? i'm trying to 
> replace that string with a var & i'm getting h:replacementVar 
> rather than the whole h:mm string being replaced with 
> replacementVar (i guess the ":" is being interpretted as set 
> of something, [:upper:]). also any idea what the equivalent 
> in js would be?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
>
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RE: how to open an attached file in its own application (ms-word, excel etc).. please read

2004-06-28 Thread Pascal Peters
I was teaching, but I think a lot of people replied. In short: This is
a client thing and you can't force it. You can try by serving the file
with cfcontent:



deletefile="No"> 

This will usually trigger the open/save as dialog

> -Original Message-
> From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: maandag 28 juni 2004 11:40
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: how to open an attached file in its own 
> application (ms-word, excel etc).. please read
> 
> Hi Guys, I posted this thread on Friday. Can someone please 
> answer my last query. Best regards, cfcoder
> 
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RE: how to open an attached file in its own application (ms-word, excel etc).. please read

2004-06-28 Thread WebSite CFtalk
Hello,

 
You should have a look at webdav / webfolders etc. (www.webdav.org is
one place to start..)

 
It enables users to save (work with) documents via the http server, and
it's also possible to check out/in documents.

 
As far as I've found out webdaw in IIS requires authentication to the
windows domain for access control - making it unsuitable/costly for
hosted environments(?). (SharePoint portal server makes use of
webfolders/webdav using integrated authentication in IIS)

 
I've been searching for alternatives but it seems all other options is
apache and/or *nix.

 
I would be *very* interested in what you find out around this subject.
:)

 
Good luck!

 
Helge



From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28. juni 2004 11:40
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Subject: Re: how to open an attached file in its own application
(ms-word, excel etc).. please read

Hi Guys, I posted this thread on Friday. Can someone please answer my
last query. Best regards,
cfcoder 

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Re: how to open an attached file in its own application (ms-word, excel etc).. please read

2004-06-28 Thread cf coder
I'll have a word with my manager and see what he says. Thank you guys for your help. Much appreciated!
regards,
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Re: how to open an attached file in its own application (ms-word, excel etc).. please read

2004-06-28 Thread mavinson
As this issue is ultimately a client-thing, here's what we do (part of a 
help doc):

- right click My Computer
- click Explore
- click Tools
- click Folder Options
- click File Types tab 
- scroll down to .DOC
- click Advanced button
- make sure Browse in Same Window checkbox is de-selected.

hth, 
-mike



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06/28/2004 05:39 AM
Please respond to cf-talk

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Hi Guys, I posted this thread on Friday. Can someone please answer my last 
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Re: dumb regex question

2004-06-28 Thread Paul Hastings
> > how do you escape a ":" as in "h:mm" in regex?
>
> \:  (back-slash colon)

thanks but i tried that ("h\:mm"). i've never been able to get regex working
fully for me.

> I guess the whole thing is ^[0-9]{1}(\:)[0-9]{2}$

well i want to replace the literal string "h:mm" with another value. i'm
building an i18n js "clock" for non-gregorian calendars, so i have to handle
dates/date manipulations myself--this includes localizing digits for
display. what i'm doing is parsing out date/time patterns (eg, ,  d
) from each calendar for a given locale & replacing these with localized
datetime bits. it all works except for the h:mm bit.

oh i dislike regex ;-)

thanks.
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RE: dumb regex question

2004-06-28 Thread Pascal Peters
Can you give us the code snippet that is not working (and maybe a
description of what you want to achieve with that particular snippet)?
As I said in my previous mail, : doesn't need escaping, so there is
probably another problem with your regexp.

Pascal

PS Learn regexp and love it  

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: maandag 28 juni 2004 14:11
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: dumb regex question
> 
> > > how do you escape a ":" as in "h:mm" in regex?
> >
> > \:  (back-slash colon)
> 
> thanks but i tried that ("h\:mm"). i've never been able to 
> get regex working fully for me.
> 
> > I guess the whole thing is ^[0-9]{1}(\:)[0-9]{2}$
> 
> well i want to replace the literal string "h:mm" with another 
> value. i'm building an i18n js "clock" for non-gregorian 
> calendars, so i have to handle dates/date manipulations 
> myself--this includes localizing digits for display. what i'm 
> doing is parsing out date/time patterns (eg, ,  d
> ) from each calendar for a given locale & replacing these 
> with localized datetime bits. it all works except for the h:mm bit.
> 
> oh i dislike regex ;-)
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
>
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Re: Unicode, Access, and 6.1

2004-06-28 Thread Jake .
>> But the new server upgrade only has the old without Unicode option. Am I
>> missing a preference in the CF Admin for how to enable the Unicode
>> support option?
>
>it should just be there. are you sure the other server is 6.1?

Yes, I've verified in the "System Info" area that the server upgraded to the 6.1.0.69853 (or whatever that set of digits is)

Jake
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Re: dumb regex question

2004-06-28 Thread Paul Hastings
> : shouldn't be escaped. What is your regexp? What do you mean by
> equivalent in JS?

forgetting cf for the moment (the js is probably more important anyway).  i
mean what would the requivalent in js .replace or RegExp() be? for example,

dateString = dateString.replace( new RegExp("h:mm", "g"), localeTime);

in js, the "h:mm" is being replaced by "h:localeTime" (where localeTime is
the current time localized) rather than the whole string. i can "workaround"
my own ignorance by doing a cf replace on the date/time pattern for the h:mm
string with something simpler ("hmm") & then use js to replace that w/the
localized time on the client.
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RE: dumb regex question

2004-06-28 Thread Pascal Peters
This is how I tested and it has the desired result!!!

localeTime = "12:30";
dateString = "testing h:mm for JS";
dateString = dateString.replace( new RegExp("h:mm", "g"), localeTime);
alert(dateString); 

You can also use the shorthand for regexp creation
dateString = dateString.replace(/h:mm/g, localeTime);

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: maandag 28 juni 2004 14:36
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: dumb regex question
> 
> > : shouldn't be escaped. What is your regexp? What do you mean by 
> > equivalent in JS?
> 
> forgetting cf for the moment (the js is probably more 
> important anyway).  i mean what would the requivalent in js 
> .replace or RegExp() be? for example,
> 
> dateString = dateString.replace( new RegExp("h:mm", "g"), localeTime);
> 
> in js, the "h:mm" is being replaced by "h:localeTime" (where 
> localeTime is the current time localized) rather than the 
> whole string. i can "workaround"
> my own ignorance by doing a cf replace on the date/time 
> pattern for the h:mm string with something simpler ("hmm") & 
> then use js to replace that w/the localized time on the client.
> 
> 
>
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cfloop and cfscript

2004-06-28 Thread jean-marc bottin
Hi,

I have been looking at the documentation at macormedai but i didi not find any clear explaination on how to do a cfloop for a list in a cfscript.

How can i do 


 in a cfscript

Thanks,

Jean-Marc
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Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
Can anyone recomend a cheap coldfusion hosting company (for personal use)?

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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Mark Drew wrote:

> Can anyone recomend a cheap coldfusion hosting company (for personal use)?
>
http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk

You can get free hosting with options to pay for additional services.

Stephen
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RE: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Trevor Holm-Laursen
I use www.mediumcube.com   , 12.95 per month for
mx 6.1.  It's less if you pay them quarterly or a year in advance.

Trevor

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Can anyone recomend a cheap coldfusion hosting company (for personal use)?

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Re: cfloop and cfscript

2004-06-28 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 28 Jun 2004 14:06 pm, jean-marc bottin wrote:
> 
>  in a cfscript

for(i=1;i lte listLen(theList);i=i+1)

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Re: cfloop and cfscript

2004-06-28 Thread Joe Rinehart
This should get you there:




for (i = 1; i lte listLen(list); i = i + 1) {
  element = listGetAt(list, i);
  writeOutput(element);
}



- Original Message -
From: jean-marc bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:06:30 -0400
Subject: cfloop and cfscript
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

I have been looking at the documentation at macormedai but i didi not
find any clear explaination on how to do a cfloop for a list in a
cfscript.

How can i do 



 in a cfscript

Thanks,

Jean-Marc
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RE: cfloop and cfscript

2004-06-28 Thread Jean-Marc Bottin
Thanks guys,

 
Jean-Marc

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De : Joe Rinehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : lundi 28 juin 2004 15:40
À : CF-Talk
Objet : Re: cfloop and cfscript

This should get you there:




for (i = 1; i lte listLen(list); i = i + 1) {
  element = listGetAt(list, i);
  writeOutput(element);
}


- Original Message -
From: jean-marc bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:06:30 -0400
Subject: cfloop and cfscript
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

I have been looking at the documentation at macormedai but i didi not
find any clear explaination on how to do a cfloop for a list in a
cfscript.

How can i do 



in a cfscript

Thanks,

Jean-Marc 
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RE: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Kevin Cundick
Try CFDynamics!  (www.cfdynamics.com  )

For about $20/mo. they offer a lot including access to SQL Server.  Worth
looking into.

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Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Burns, John D
i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

 
John Burns
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RE: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Tony Weeg
I assume windows (iis was a dead giveaway, I know im on top of it this
morning) and with that
you can use performance monitoring, to watch this...on a on-the-fly type
basis...

just a small tip on this iceberg of GREAT help we call cftalk 

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Subject: Server use / stability

i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

 
John Burns
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Re: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Well the cheapest tool is...

Ctrl+Alt+Delete ---> Task Manager to keep an eye on how much memory
you have free and how frequently jrun is eating cpu.

-Adam

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From: Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:57:11 -0400
Subject: Server use / stability
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

John Burns
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Re: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 28 Jun 2004 14:57 pm, Burns, John D wrote:
> is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
> give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
> examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware

You can install an SNMP module into Windows, and then graph/query that anyway 
you like (we prefer MRTG+rrdgraph, for instance).

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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Doug White
$9.95 mo.  less on annual basis - SQL2k, CFMX 6.1 on a win2003 Enterprise
server.
For non-commercial personal sites - 100 MB storage

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  looking into.

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RE: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Burns, John D
I considered that, but are there any tricks to using Task Manager or
Performance Monitor to log that information or something so I can see
the highpoints throughout the days (without having to watch it all the
time)?

John 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server use / stability

Well the cheapest tool is...

Ctrl+Alt+Delete ---> Task Manager to keep an eye on how much memory
you have free and how frequently jrun is eating cpu.

-Adam

- Original Message -
From: Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:57:11 -0400
Subject: Server use / stability
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

John Burns
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RE: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Tony Weeg
I think perfmon can keep some stats on that... 

-Original Message-
From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Server use / stability

I considered that, but are there any tricks to using Task Manager or
Performance Monitor to log that information or something so I can see
the highpoints throughout the days (without having to watch it all the
time)?

John 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server use / stability

Well the cheapest tool is...

Ctrl+Alt+Delete ---> Task Manager to keep an eye on how much memory
you have free and how frequently jrun is eating cpu.

-Adam

- Original Message -
From: Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:57:11 -0400
Subject: Server use / stability
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

John Burns
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Raymond's Blog for Bluedragon

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Root
Raymond Camden gave me permission at CFUN to distribute my version of 
his Blog, which is modified to work with Bluedragon, and ever so 
slightly enhanced.  It should still work with CFMX as well of course.

Anyway, you can download it from my blog.

http://blog.rickroot.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=A896645C-136D-B771-EF3FC724A19B7071

Look at the "Downloads" section in the right sidebar.

Here is the readme about the fixes and minor enhancements I made:

http://blog.rickroot.com/downloads/README_FIRST.txt

Just unzip/untar in your web root, create/install the database and 
datasource (see the .mdb or .sql files in the install/ directory), edit 
the org/camden/blog/blog.ini file, and you'll be ready to go.  You may 
also have to set up a mapping.

  - Rick
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Re: Raymond's Blog for Bluedragon

2004-06-28 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 28 Jun 2004 15:24 pm, Rick Root wrote:
>&entry=A896645C-136D-B771-EF3FC724A19B7071

I've said it before, I'll say it again:
"Is that a [G|U]UID ? Eww..."
:-)
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HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread stas
I am migrating one application to another server. The "entrance" to this app
is always from an external site via a POST. All of a sudden I'm getting a
405... the site itself is up if I hit it directly via URL and the mappings
for .cfm are set to "all verb". I'd appreciate some pointers, thanks! This
is CMFX 6.1/ IIS4 / W2KS
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
Have you got URL Scan installed?

Sometimes by default on a lockdown it may restrict POST and so give
you an error like this?

HTH

Mike

- Original Message -
From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:39:35 -0400
Subject: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am migrating one application to another server. The "entrance" to this app
is always from an external site via a POST. All of a sudden I'm getting a
405... the site itself is up if I hit it directly via URL and the mappings
for .cfm are set to "all verb". I'd appreciate some pointers, thanks! This
is CMFX 6.1/ IIS4 / W2KS_
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Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions

2004-06-28 Thread Damien McKenna
I just discovered a weird bug in CFMX 6.0's arithmetic functions.

I'm adding a checksum to a form.  Its a simple function, I concatenate 
two numbers separated by a decimal, encrypt then urlencode it.  On the 
subsequent page it decodes then decrypts the string.  This part works 
fine.  However, when I subtract the integer portion (number 1) to leave 
the decimal part (number 2) I get the wrong number.

Original string: 123.123
Number 1: 123
Number 2: 0.1093

Here's the command I use:

Evaluate(Val(#DecryptedData#) - Fix(Val(#DecryptedData#)))

DecryptedData is the decrypted and decoded value, i.e. 123.123.  It 
takes this number and subtracts the integer portion (using the Fix 
function).

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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RE: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Burns, John D
Actually, an even cheaper tool is Ctrl+Shift+Escape :-)  Saves you a
step.

John 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server use / stability

Well the cheapest tool is...

Ctrl+Alt+Delete ---> Task Manager to keep an eye on how much memory
you have free and how frequently jrun is eating cpu.

-Adam

- Original Message -
From: Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:57:11 -0400
Subject: Server use / stability
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

John Burns
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread stas
One more thing.

If the form's action tag is an absoluting path including the CFM file, it
works, that is:

This works - 

This doesn't - 

Anyway to get the latter to work? That's what I have it set up as on the
older server, no issues, but that's running CF 4.5.

Thank you

- Original Message - 
From: "stas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:39 AM
Subject: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

> I am migrating one application to another server. The "entrance" to this
app
> is always from an external site via a POST. All of a sudden I'm getting a
> 405... the site itself is up if I hit it directly via URL and the mappings
> for .cfm are set to "all verb". I'd appreciate some pointers, thanks! This
> is CMFX 6.1/ IIS4 / W2KS
>
>
>
>
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread stas
Mike, no I don't have iislock installed yet.

- Original Message - 
From: "JediHomer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

> Have you got URL Scan installed?
>
> Sometimes by default on a lockdown it may restrict POST and so give
> you an error like this?
>
> HTH
>
> Mike
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:39:35 -0400
> Subject: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> I am migrating one application to another server. The "entrance" to this
app
> is always from an external site via a POST. All of a sudden I'm getting a
> 405... the site itself is up if I hit it directly via URL and the mappings
> for .cfm are set to "all verb". I'd appreciate some pointers, thanks! This
> is CMFX 6.1/ IIS4 / W2KS_
>
>
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
Make sure the default document is set to the correct document...As my
first guess is that its not pointing to index.cfm?

HTH

Mike

- Original Message -
From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:45:30 -0400
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

One more thing.

If the form's action tag is an absoluting path including the CFM file, it
works, that is:

This works - 

This doesn't - 

Anyway to get the latter to work? That's what I have it set up as on the
older server, no issues, but that's running CF 4.5.
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Re: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Snap. Learn somthing new everyday.

-Adam

- Original Message -
From: Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:44:11 -0400
Subject: RE: Server use / stability
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Actually, an even cheaper tool is Ctrl+Shift+Escape :-)  Saves you a
step.

John 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server use / stability

Well the cheapest tool is...

Ctrl+Alt+Delete ---> Task Manager to keep an eye on how much memory
you have free and how frequently jrun is eating cpu.

-Adam

- Original Message -
From: Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:57:11 -0400
Subject: Server use / stability
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

John Burns
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Re: Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
You could try treating that number as a list?

The you could do something like...



HTH

Mike

- Original Message -
From: Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:43:24 -0400
Subject: Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I just discovered a weird bug in CFMX 6.0's arithmetic functions.

I'm adding a checksum to a form.  Its a simple function, I concatenate 
two numbers separated by a decimal, encrypt then urlencode it.  On the 
subsequent page it decodes then decrypts the string.  This part works 
fine.  However, when I subtract the integer portion (number 1) to leave 
the decimal part (number 2) I get the wrong number.

Original string: 123.123
Number 1: 123
Number 2: 0.1093
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Problem with multipart forms on Mac

2004-06-28 Thread Claude Schneegans
Hi,

I have a form to send some newa on a site.
The user may optionnally send a photo, so the form is multipart.
The problem is when the user send the form from a Mac with no image attached.
It appears that the server still thinks there IS an image, and of course it fails
when trying to store it some where:

Error Diagnostic Information

Error processing CFFILE

Error attempting to save uploaded file to path '
26D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\photos\.' The system
cannot find the path specified. (error 3)

The code is like this:


 
 
    FILEFIELD="File_Name"
    DESTINATION="#Path#"
    NAMECONFLICT="MakeUnique">
 
 
 

Then it looks like the field for the file is not empty as it should, but contains a dot.

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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread stas
No, that's not it. Moreover, I removed the index.cfm and made a plain text
index.html file and still the same behavior...

- Original Message - 
From: "JediHomer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

> Make sure the default document is set to the correct document...As my
> first guess is that its not pointing to index.cfm?
>
> HTH
>
> Mike
>
> - Original Message -
> From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:45:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> One more thing.
>
> If the form's action tag is an absoluting path including the CFM file, it
> works, that is:
>
> This works - 
>
> This doesn't - 
>
> Anyway to get the latter to work? That's what I have it set up as on the
> older server, no issues, but that's running CF 4.5.
>
>
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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Greg Stewart
Depending on how much effort you are willing to put in I can seriously
recommend Linode.com. for $19.95 you get a UML (User Mode Linux)
account (i.e. root access to your VPS) and basically can do whatever
you like with it. Install Apache, BlueDragon and MySQL and you are
off! Downside is you have to do everything yourself, but it is a lot
of fun to learn!!

Cheers
G

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:09:21 -0500, Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> $9.95 mo.  less on annual basis - SQL2k, CFMX 6.1 on a win2003 Enterprise
> server.
> For non-commercial personal sites - 100 MB storage
> 
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>   - Original Message -
>   From: Kevin Cundick
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:44 AM
>   Subject: RE: Cheap hosting
> 
>   Try CFDynamics!  (www.cfdynamics.com  )
> 
>   For about $20/mo. they offer a lot including access to SQL Server.  Worth
>   looking into.
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:29 AM
>   To: CF-Talk
>   Subject: Cheap hosting
> 
>   Can anyone recomend a cheap coldfusion hosting company (for personal use)?
> 
>   --
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> 
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Re: Problem with multipart forms on Mac

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
Try trimming the field... so somthing like


    


HTH

Mike

- Original Message -
From: Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:06:14 -0400
Subject: Problem with multipart forms on Mac
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

I have a form to send some newa on a site.
The user may optionnally send a photo, so the form is multipart.
The problem is when the user send the form from a Mac with no image attached.
It appears that the server still thinks there IS an image, and of
course it fails
when trying to store it some where:
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
Not really sure, my first thoughts were that IIS was serving up a htm
as the default so you might get that...

Is there any reason why you cant point the action directly to the
index.cfm file?

HTH

Mike

- Original Message -
From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:19:24 -0400
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No, that's not it. Moreover, I removed the index.cfm and made a plain text
index.html file and still the same behavior...
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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Nathan Strutz
www.2globalmart.com
$40/yr (plan 06/windows)

that comes to just $3.33/month, but only payable yearly.

-nathan strutz

Mark Drew wrote:
> Can anyone recomend a cheap coldfusion hosting company (for personal use)?
> 
> -- 
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login methods

2004-06-28 Thread George Abraham
Hi all,
Rick Root's statement that he doesn't see the point of a cflogin tag
for applications made me think of this. What login methods/processes
do most people use? OK, that's too generic a question! In a
multi-environment situation (where people from different organizations
have to use the same application), what are the principles you use to
log people in? And keep in mind that people from different
organizations also have to have access to other different applications
using the same individual login.

So far as I can see, only something like Shibboleth
(http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/) really solves this problem, at
least for me, from an educational/research institution perspective.
Has anybody used this type of distributed authentication system?

Now this sounds like a really rambling post!

George
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
I think that is your problem right there
you should make the default document index.cfm and not index.html or default.htm

then you will be able to run it

Hope that helps

Regards

Mark Drew

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:19:24 -0400, stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> No, that's not it. Moreover, I removed the index.cfm and made a plain text
> index.html file and still the same behavior...
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "JediHomer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
> 
> > Make sure the default document is set to the correct document...As my
> > first guess is that its not pointing to index.cfm?
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:45:30 -0400
> > Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > One more thing.
> >
> > If the form's action tag is an absoluting path including the CFM file, it
> > works, that is:
> >
> > This works - 
> >
> > This doesn't - 
> >
> > Anyway to get the latter to work? That's what I have it set up as on the
> > older server, no issues, but that's running CF 4.5.
> >
> >
> 
>
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Re: Server use / stability

2004-06-28 Thread Doug White
On a Windows 2003 server, running IIS 6.0, you can go into "computer management"
and set up a number of performance monitoring tasks (PerfMon) which will create
logs that should give you what you want.

There are so many log files created at the server level, it does get confusing
from time to time.  There are the event logs, the CF server and application
logs, the PerfMon logs, mail logs and probably more.

Using the WLExpert application, you can schedule daily (or weekly) IIS log file
analysis that will generate probably more information that you will ever use,
but among them is the bandwidth on an hourly or daily basis for each site, and
viewable via your browser.

The most common problem we have seen on hosted sites is SQL queries that are
sloppily written and not optimized for performance.  In my opinion running a
looping query, or a long running query, and then having to do sub-queries before
returning a web page, is very inefficient of a web server.  Instead, well
written queries should be able to return the data requited for one displayed
page, and when the visitor clicks on next, then the query returns the nest
subset.  If one will check out the very large web sites, such as Google, Amazon,
etc. one will see that query of query is not used, and the data is returned
promptly even though the sites are receiving millions of hits per day.  One
should try to time any scheduled tasks for late night or other off-peak hours,
to minimize the server load, and interference with web visitors.

According to most SQL gurus I have been in contact with, writing queries is
almost an art form.

Another observation is that a single server should be able to support well over
a hundred CF sites, and more,with moderate activity.  That is, not to the scale
of Google or Amazon, who use clustered server farm environments which cost in
the millions to set up and support.

My 0.02
Doug

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i'm trying to figure out a good reliable way to measure statistically
how much my server is being taxed with the multiple sites I have running
on it.  The server has about 10 sites on it and a management system that
is CF intensive.  Is there a program that I can set on the server to
give me some good feedback throughout the day or is it just best to
examine the IIS logs? I basically want to stay on top of the hardware
aspect as we're adding some larger sites with significantly more traffic
and I want to make sure that our clients get good hosting for their
money and i want to be able to plan on getting a second dedicated server
if the need should arise (before it's too late).  Let me know if you
know of any tools or methods for keeping up on this.

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RE: Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions

2004-06-28 Thread Nathan Mische
Any reason you are not using CFMX 6.1? 

I just ran the following in CFMX 6.1 and got the expected result, 0.123.

 

DecryptedData = "123.123";
x = Evaluate(Val(#DecryptedData#) - Fix(Val(#DecryptedData#)));
writeOutput(x);


Also, there is no need for the Evaluate function, Val function or pound
signs in the above _expression_. You should be able to just use 



Or 


x = DecryptedData - Fix(DecryptedData);


HTH,

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Re: Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions

2004-06-28 Thread Damien McKenna
In the end I just changed it from a period (.) to a colon (:) and used 
a series of Finds to do the work.

As JediHomer said I could just use lists... probably would be much 
cleaner...  I'll probably change that later today.
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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
The LINODE thing looks super.. I was looking at something REAL cheap
as it is for my  personal stuf i.e. nothing inportant :) or money
earning.

What is the deal with blue dragon and linux? surely you have to pay a
licence even on linode? and how would THAT work?

MD

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:26:57 -0700, Nathan Strutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> www.2globalmart.com
> $40/yr (plan 06/windows)
> 
> that comes to just $3.33/month, but only payable yearly.
> 
> -nathan strutz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Drew wrote:
> > Can anyone recomend a cheap coldfusion hosting company (for personal use)?
> >
> > --
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Re: Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions

2004-06-28 Thread Damien McKenna
On Jun 28, 2004, at 11:36 AM, Nathan Mische wrote:
> Any reason you are not using CFMX 6.1?

Because the sysadmin at our host is unresponsive.. I've been attempting 
to talk to him since last week.  Ack.
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Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
Talking about http://www.linode.com made me think about something. how
many people are running CF (5 or MX) on Apache (1 or 2) on production
servers? I love apache for my laptop/development environments and I
swear by OS X (and swear at PC's!) but I havent come across many
production environments using Apache.

Any good or bad stories? 

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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread stas
Mark, I am not sure I understand you... but I did have index.cfm before.
Just to take CF out of the equation I replaced it with index.html and am
still receiving 405. Also, when I have index.cfm set up as the default
document, if I just go to the site normally by typing the full address in
the browser address bar, IIS correctly serves up the index.cfm file.

Stas

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Drew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

> I think that is your problem right there
> you should make the default document index.cfm and not index.html or
default.htm
>
> then you will be able to run it
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Regards
>
> Mark Drew
>
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:19:24 -0400, stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > No, that's not it. Moreover, I removed the index.cfm and made a plain
text
> > index.html file and still the same behavior...
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "JediHomer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
> >
> > > Make sure the default document is set to the correct document...As my
> > > first guess is that its not pointing to index.cfm?
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:45:30 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
> > > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > > One more thing.
> > >
> > > If the form's action tag is an absoluting path including the CFM file,
it
> > > works, that is:
> > >
> > > This works - 
method="post">
> > >
> > > This doesn't - 
> > >
> > > Anyway to get the latter to work? That's what I have it set up as on
the
> > > older server, no issues, but that's running CF 4.5.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
hmm... so just to get this straight...

You have a .htm page that posts to action="">

The Default document in the IIS settings ranks index.cfm above any other page.

You go to http://somedomain.com and you get the .cfm page served

But the POST 405's

What do the IIS logs say for the post ?

HTH

Mike

- Original Message -
From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:48:21 -0400
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mark, I am not sure I understand you... but I did have index.cfm before.
Just to take CF out of the equation I replaced it with index.html and am
still receiving 405. Also, when I have index.cfm set up as the default
document, if I just go to the site normally by typing the full address in
the browser address bar, IIS correctly serves up the index.cfm file.
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RE: login methods

2004-06-28 Thread Shawn Grover
I've been thinking on this for some time...  

 
In the past, we put the username/password into a database (properly encrypted of course), and checked login's against that table.  However it quickly became an issue where each application had it's own login system.  My thoughts on this are to create an authentication web service.  Depending on the environment/requirements, permissions can be handled by the applications in question, or by an application for managing the logins.  

 
For instance, an HR supervisor may need to create a user account for a new employee.  They would open the GUI interface that calls the appropriate routines from the authentication web service to create a new user account.  The question is where do the permissions for the user get stored.  If the HR supervisor only had access to an HR application, then that application might be used to match the user account to the permissions needed for the app.  However if the HR Supervisor was responsible for assigning permissions to ALL internal applications, then it makes more sense to store those permissions in the authentication web service.

 
I think the storage of permissions will come down to a judgement call for each organization, but by at least moving the authentication into a web service will allow that magical "single login".  Microsoft tried to do something like this with Passport, but failed - mostly because the storage of the authentication information should be kept at an organizational level, not a global level by a for-profit company which has a number of trust issues.

 
My thoughts

 
Shawn

-Original Message-
From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: login methods

Hi all,
Rick Root's statement that he doesn't see the point of a cflogin tag
for applications made me think of this. What login methods/processes
do most people use? OK, that's too generic a question! In a
multi-environment situation (where people from different organizations
have to use the same application), what are the principles you use to
log people in? And keep in mind that people from different
organizations also have to have access to other different applications
using the same individual login.

So far as I can see, only something like Shibboleth
(http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/) really solves this problem, at
least for me, from an educational/research institution perspective.
Has anybody used this type of distributed authentication system?

Now this sounds like a really rambling post!

George 
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SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04

2004-06-28 Thread Alexander Sherwood
Slight OT here:

Anyone catch Ben's Blackstone keynote(s) at CF-FUN? It was rumored that he was going to demo some features not previously shown on the User Group tour this summer.

Anyone have the details?!  ;-)

Thanks!

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Re: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 28 Jun 2004 16:43 pm, Mark Drew wrote:
> Talking about http://www.linode.com made me think about something. how
> many people are running CF (5 or MX) on Apache (1 or 2) on production
> servers?

We certainly are.

> good or bad

Longer uptimes, more responsive, better support and ease of configuration than 
IIS ? How can you resist :-)

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Re: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Doug White
Runs solid as a rock with CFMX 6.1 on Apache2.x

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  - Original 

  Talking about http://www.linode.com made me think about something. how
  many people are running CF (5 or MX) on Apache (1 or 2) on production
  servers? I love apache for my laptop/development environments and I
  swear by OS X (and swear at PC's!) but I havent come across many
  production environments using Apache.

  Any good or bad stories? 

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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Root
Mark Drew wrote:
> 
> What is the deal with blue dragon and linux? surely you have to pay a
> licence even on linode? and how would THAT work?

Not if you run the free version of Bluedragon.  The main features you 
don't get with the free version is the ability to deploy servlets/jsps 
and JDBC support for databases other than mysql and postgresql.

Other than that, I think the free bluedragon has all the CFML 
functionality that the JX version has.

  - Rick
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RE: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04

2004-06-28 Thread Sandy Clark
See my blog.
http://www.shayna.com/blog

  _  

From: Alexander Sherwood 

Slight OT here:

Anyone catch Ben's Blackstone keynote(s) at CF-FUN? It was rumored that he
was going to demo some features not previously shown on the User Group tour
this summer.

Anyone have the details?!  ;-)

Thanks!

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Re: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:43:16 +0200, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Talking about http://www.linode.com made me think about something. how
> many people are running CF (5 or MX) on Apache (1 or 2) on production
> servers? I love apache for my laptop/development environments and I
> swear by OS X (and swear at PC's!) but I havent come across many
> production environments using Apache.

We use Apache 2.0.49 on several Red Hat/Solaris installations we have
of CFMX on top of JRun 4. We've never had a problem with it and
installation is a breeze.

> 
> Any good or bad stories?

Nothing but good experiences with it in a *nix environment, though I
can't speak for Windows as we don't use it.

Regards,
Dave.
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread stas
That's correct, and here's the log entry:

2004-06-28 16:04:08 x.x.x.x - y.y.y.y 80 POST / - 405
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1;+.NET+CLR+1.1.4322;+.NET+C
LR+1.0.3705)
2004-06-28 16:04:08 x.x.x.x - y.y.y.y 80 GET /favicon.ico - 404
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1;+.NET+CLR+1.1.4322;+.NET+C
LR+1.0.3705)

- Original Message - 
From: "JediHomer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

> hmm... so just to get this straight...
>
> You have a .htm page that posts to action="">
>
> The Default document in the IIS settings ranks index.cfm above any other
page.
>
> You go to http://somedomain.com and you get the .cfm page served
>
> But the POST 405's
>
> What do the IIS logs say for the post ?
>
> HTH
>
> Mike
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Re: login methods

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Root
George Abraham wrote:

> Rick Root's statement that he doesn't see the point of a cflogin tag

To be clear, it may be that I simply don't know enough about it :) 
Honestly, I haven't researched it and I haven't attended any sessions at 
MAX or CFUN that talked about it.

  - Rick
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Re: Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Root
Damien McKenna wrote:
> 
> Because the sysadmin at our host is unresponsive.. I've been attempting
> to talk to him since last week.  Ack.

you mean like a hosting company?   You use a hosting company that's 
using CFMX 6.0?

If that's the case, God help you, and you might consider doing 
everything possible to find a new host.

  - Rick
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RE: Mailing to email list using CF

2004-06-28 Thread Barney Boisvert
> I don't get it. If you check the addresses first, why check 
> again? If an existing list, just check the format once.

Mostly for the PHB's satisfaction.  Back before I was around, the guys who
originally built the system didn't bother to do ANY validation, at input or
send time.  They had lots of problems, as you might imagine.  That's about
99.99% fixed, but there are still some records that we can't touch (for
political reasons) that are from back then, that may or may not be valid
email addresses.  Hence the double validation.

Cheers,
barneyb
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Re: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Root
For my own company, I've been using Apache so long with CF on both 
Windows and Linux that I can't remember the last time I used CF on IIS.

We still use IIS here at Duke but I've been very tempted to switch it to 
Apache, except I've never done Apache with SSL on Windows and I'm afraid 
I might have to re-do my SSL certs.

  - Rick
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
Then I dont know I'm afraid :(

Mike

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From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:05:58 -0400
Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That's correct, and here's the log entry:
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Re: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
This was the response I was expecting (I am won over by apache) I can
even run different versions using the virtual hosts (rather than
needing to haev windows server to do that in IIS!!!)

When I used to run apache on a broadband connection (home machine) I
took joy in looking through the logs and see virus and trojan
requiests that would have harmed my system if it was IIS simply  be
ignored by apache.

I think the main thing is that in most of the companies that I have
worked in the webserver is managed by a different person than the
developer... hence it is in the hands of MIS and thus it is IIS

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:15:01 -0400, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> For my own company, I've been using Apache so long with CF on both
> Windows and Linux that I can't remember the last time I used CF on IIS.
> 
> We still use IIS here at Duke but I've been very tempted to switch it to
> Apache, except I've never done Apache with SSL on Windows and I'm afraid
> I might have to re-do my SSL certs.
> 
>  - Rick
> 
>
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RE: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04

2004-06-28 Thread Paul Kenney
New feature:

ColdFusion Event Gateway.

ColdFusion is no longer tied to the web server.  Not exactly sure how to
describe it just yet, but basically you can use ColdFusion to do all sort of
asynchronous processing of anything you can interact with in Java--JMS, IM,
SMS, filesystem change notifications, telnet...

You implement a thin gateway interface in Java and it will interact with
CFCs that you write to handle certain events.  Its kind of like Flash
Remoting in that way.

It's way cool!

Paul Kenney
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> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04
>
>
> Slight OT here:
>
> Anyone catch Ben's Blackstone keynote(s) at CF-FUN? It was
> rumored that he was going to demo some features not
> previously shown on the User Group tour this summer.
>
> Anyone have the details?!  ;-)
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Alex
>
>
>
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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Paul Hastings
> Other than that, I think the free bluedragon has all the CFML
> functionality that the JX version has.

even createObject to java objects? did you use this version porting ray's
blog?
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Re: CFFUN 04 - He3

2004-06-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Hey CFFUN attendees, how does He3 look?

Very nice!  I've already set it up as my pimary editor for CF files...
looking forward to some of the updates that Matt L talked about at the
conference!

Hatton
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Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
In IIS, when you point to the root can you create an application?
sometimes this helps it (it is for ASP generally) but it does the
trick

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:16:04 +0100, JediHomer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Then I dont know I'm afraid :(
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: stas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:05:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: HTTP 405 - resource not allowed
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> That's correct, and here's the log entry:
> 
>
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Re: login methods

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Root
Oh, and by the way, to answer your question..

I have one web site that I maintain with a lot of different CF and flash 
apps that all authenticate against a DB2 mainframe, and I'm using a CFC 
to do it.. basically doing my own session management, storing a session 
ID and userID in a local oracle database, and retrieving the user info 
from the mainframe after authenticating them against the mainframe.

Plus, each time I authenticate the cookie, I make sure the username is 
still valid in the mainframe..

When flash authenticates, I use _javascript_ to set the browser cookie, so 
if you log into a flash app first, then you're logged in everywhere on 
the site.. other flash apps, CF apps, etc..

We delete the sessions from the local oracle database every week just to 
force people to log in at least once every week.

Because the entire site isn't running over SSL, the cookie is 
transferred unsecurely sometimes, and a packet sniffer could read the 
cookie, then that unscrupulous individual could set the cookie 
themselves, and they'd be logged in as that person for the remainder of 
the week.

I could probably get around this in a couple of ways... by forcing the 
cookie to be passed securely as well (ie, running the entire web site 
under SSL), or by storing the IP address associated with the session 
cookie.. but that could cause problems with people coming in from places 
like AOL, where each request they make may come through a different AOL 
IP address because they send all their connections though some kind of 
set of proxy servers... I'm not real sure about that one.

  - Rick
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Re: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
>
> > good or bad
>
> Longer uptimes, more responsive, better support and ease of 
> configuration than
> IIS ? How can you resist :-)
>
But then I find that getting help with apache when there is problem is 
extremely poor (usually I get sarcastic script kiddies or no response), 
responsiveness is about the same as IIS, I find IIS stays up just as 
long as Apache and that configuring Apache is a total pain in the butt, 
but I can throw a site in to IIS in seconds.

Why would I swap?  ;o)

BTW - I have windows servers with IIS on and RH9 servers with Apache on. 
Macs... well.. no... frankly the fortnight I've had with stuff to do 
with macs and browsers the only place for them is where the sun don't 
shine!  <<< personal opinion and responses on how ace the Apple Mac OS 
is are not required, cos I don't agree.

To be honest, I don't much care either way with regards apache and IIS.  
I had a real hassle getting MX onto an Apache 2.x server, installing MX 
and apache was easy enough just couldn't get it to pass the pages to 
CFMX, but now that its up and running I haven't done anything to it since.

Difference between IIS and Apache is that with Apache, you have to know 
what you're doing before you can use it, with IIS can can get it running 
without knowing a single thing about web servers.  With IIS, yes you can 
just chuck it up and it will work, but not at its best.  You have to 
know what you are doing with IIS, just as much as you do with apache.

Regards

Stephen
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Re: login methods

2004-06-28 Thread George Abraham
Yeah, about that AOL thing. I remember seeing server logs where one
person surfing from an AOL IP basically jumped IPs about 10 times in a
period of 15 minutes and for about 15 page requests, including
refreshes. I'm not real sure what's happening either.

Thanks for your thoughts though!

George
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RE: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Barney Boisvert
We've been running CF behind apache for years, with no issues.  Started with
Apache 1.3 and CF 4.5 (at my current employers), then 2.0 and 6.0, and
currently running 2.0 and 6.1.  Never had a bit of problems with the setup.

We just cycled CFMX when we applied a large update on June 1, and before
that the machines and daemons had been running since September of last year
without interruption.  Hard to argue with that.

MM.com is also running Apache (on Solaris), both pure web server, and
connected to JRun for serving dynamic content.

Cheers,
barneyb

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Apache and CF
> 
> Talking about http://www.linode.com made me think about something. how
> many people are running CF (5 or MX) on Apache (1 or 2) on production
> servers? I love apache for my laptop/development environments and I
> swear by OS X (and swear at PC's!) but I havent come across many
> production environments using Apache.
> 
> Any good or bad stories? 
> 
> -- 
> Mark Drew
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
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CFDIRECTORY filter to get just directories

2004-06-28 Thread Burns, John D
Is there a filter that can be used in 
filter=""> to only get directories?  Any help would be appreciated.

 
John
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Re: Apache and CF

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
I do think Stephen has a point, about learning curve, althought I have
been won over by the easy config as I can port it across development
servers and backup configuration changes

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:30:38 -0700, Barney Boisvert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> We've been running CF behind apache for years, with no issues.  Started with
> Apache 1.3 and CF 4.5 (at my current employers), then 2.0 and 6.0, and
> currently running 2.0 and 6.1.  Never had a bit of problems with the setup.
> 
> We just cycled CFMX when we applied a large update on June 1, and before
> that the machines and daemons had been running since September of last year
> without interruption.  Hard to argue with that.
> 
> MM.com is also running Apache (on Solaris), both pure web server, and
> connected to JRun for serving dynamic content.
> 
> Cheers,
> barneyb
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:43 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Apache and CF
> >
> > Talking about http://www.linode.com made me think about something. how
> > many people are running CF (5 or MX) on Apache (1 or 2) on production
> > servers? I love apache for my laptop/development environments and I
> > swear by OS X (and swear at PC's!) but I havent come across many
> > production environments using Apache.
> >
> > Any good or bad stories?
> >
> > --
> > Mark Drew
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> 
>
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timed events

2004-06-28 Thread Coleman, Brian
How would you go about creating events that happen outside the page
loading and processing...mainly I use SQL 2000 for my db, so it could be
something set up inside the db, I guess

Here are a few examples of what I'm wanting to do

Let's say a user wants to create an event and have it show up on a
certain date. To control visibility, I could use a bit characters, 1 for
on, 0 for off. I want the visibility bit to be set from 0 to 1 on the
date that the user entered. I could put something in my page code that
says like if datefield = now() set visibility from 0 to 1, but for that
to happen, someone would have to view the page on that day.

Also, lets say I have a time based database field, where I want to
increment this field based on a certain number of minutes/hours...for
example every 5 minutes the field would be incremented by one, until a
certain number is reached, then it stops. This would be real time based
and not have anything to do with the code on the page, so I can't think
of how to do it.
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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) wrote:

> Mark Drew wrote:
>
> > Can anyone recomend a cheap coldfusion hosting company (for personal 
> use)?
> >
> http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk
>
> You can get free hosting with options to pay for additional services.

Whoops... wrong address

Same people, but free side is here : http://www.cf-developer.net/

Stephen
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RE: CFDIRECTORY filter to get just directories

2004-06-28 Thread Greg.Morphis
No filter that I've seen but you could use 



    Directory

    Not Directory



-Original Message-
From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFDIRECTORY filter to get just directories

Is there a filter that can be used in 
filter=""> to only get directories?  Any help would be appreciated.

John 
  _
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Re: Bug in CFMX's arithmetic functions

2004-06-28 Thread Damien McKenna
On Jun 28, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Rick Root wrote:
>> Because the sysadmin at our host is unresponsive.. I've been 
>> attempting
>> to talk to him since last week.  Ack.
>
> you mean like a hosting company?   You use a hosting company that's
> using CFMX 6.0?

Yep.

> If that's the case, God help you, and you might consider doing
> everything possible to find a new host.

We use them for more than CFML hosting.  They also host a large UNIX 
system for us.  Though having said that I'm sure we could do the same 
elsewhere...

My manager is friends with the company though, and they wrote our COBOL 
system...

Its complicated.
-- 
Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014
"Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus
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Re: CFFUN 04 - He3

2004-06-28 Thread Stephen Hait
What's He3, please?

> > Hey CFFUN attendees, how does He3 look?
> 
> Very nice!  I've already set it up as my pimary editor for CF
> files... looking forward to some of the updates that Matt L talked
> about at the conference!
> 
> Hatton
> 
>
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Re: CFFUN 04 - He3

2004-06-28 Thread Joe Eugene
Didnt attend CFFUN... what is "He3"?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan O'Keefe 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:31 PM
  Subject: CFFUN 04 - He3

  Hey CFFUN attendees, how does He3 look?

  Dan O'Keefe
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Re: SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04

2004-06-28 Thread Adrocknaphobia
I'm quite suprised this thread hadnt been started yet. I'm pretty sure
we are allowed to talk about it 'in our own words'. Although I dont
think I can convey the new gateway functionality nearly as well as
Ben. But yeah. excuse the language but there just isnt a better
way to put. It's bad ass!

I think its pretty safe to say that .Net and CF are close to equal in
what you can do (maybe not as easily), but Blackstone will make .NET
look pretty puny. As Ben put it, you can really start to see the
result of the MM and Allaire merge in Blackstone... and it's beatiful
thing.

-Adam

- Original Message -
From: Alexander Sherwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:56:26 -0400
Subject: SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Slight OT here:

Anyone catch Ben's Blackstone keynote(s) at CF-FUN? It was rumored
that he was going to demo some features not previously shown on the
User Group tour this summer.

Anyone have the details?!  ;-)

Thanks!

--
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Re: CFDIRECTORY filter to get just directories

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
When you output it you can specify 
#mydirectory.type# EQ "directory" (or "dir", cant remember)

MD

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:32:39 -0400, Burns, John D
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Is there a filter that can be used in 
> filter=""> to only get directories?  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> John
> 
>
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Re: CFDIRECTORY filter to get just directories

2004-06-28 Thread JediHomer
Or you could do a Query of a Query so that it only contains what you need.

HTH

Mike

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:40:55 -0500
Subject: RE: CFDIRECTORY filter to get just directories
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No filter that I've seen but you could use 




    Directory

    Not Directory


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Re: login methods

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Root
George Abraham wrote:

> Yeah, about that AOL thing. I remember seeing server logs where one
> person surfing from an AOL IP basically jumped IPs about 10 times in a
> period of 15 minutes and for about 15 page requests, including
> refreshes. I'm not real sure what's happening either.

Makes it extremely difficult to do IP-based session security, doesn't it? :)

  - Rick
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RE: CFFUN 04 - He3

2004-06-28 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> What's He3, please?

RTFA  :-)
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Re: CFFUN 04 - He3

2004-06-28 Thread Adrocknaphobia
http://richpalette.com/

- Original Message -
From: Stephen Hait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:42:37 -0400
Subject: Re: CFFUN 04 - He3
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What's He3, please?

> > Hey CFFUN attendees, how does He3 look?
> 
> Very nice!  I've already set it up as my pimary editor for CF
> files... looking forward to some of the updates that Matt L talked
> about at the conference!
> 
> Hatton
> 
>
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RE: SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04

2004-06-28 Thread Tony Weeg
wow. adam.  major statement

.NET and puny.

really?

tw 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04

I'm quite suprised this thread hadnt been started yet. I'm pretty sure
we are allowed to talk about it 'in our own words'. Although I dont
think I can convey the new gateway functionality nearly as well as
Ben. But yeah. excuse the language but there just isnt a better
way to put. It's bad ass!

I think its pretty safe to say that .Net and CF are close to equal in
what you can do (maybe not as easily), but Blackstone will make .NET
look pretty puny. As Ben put it, you can really start to see the
result of the MM and Allaire merge in Blackstone... and it's beatiful
thing.

-Adam

- Original Message -
From: Alexander Sherwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:56:26 -0400
Subject: SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Slight OT here:

Anyone catch Ben's Blackstone keynote(s) at CF-FUN? It was rumored
that he was going to demo some features not previously shown on the
User Group tour this summer.

Anyone have the details?!  ;-)

Thanks!

--
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Re: timed events

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
In coldfusion you have a cfschedule. Or in the administration you can
add a schedule that at a certain date/time with some repetition it
will run some code. look into that my friend and you shall find the
answer

MD

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:38:23 -0500, Coleman, Brian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> How would you go about creating events that happen outside the page
> loading and processing...mainly I use SQL 2000 for my db, so it could be
> something set up inside the db, I guess
> 
> Here are a few examples of what I'm wanting to do
> 
> Let's say a user wants to create an event and have it show up on a
> certain date. To control visibility, I could use a bit characters, 1 for
> on, 0 for off. I want the visibility bit to be set from 0 to 1 on the
> date that the user entered. I could put something in my page code that
> says like if datefield = now() set visibility from 0 to 1, but for that
> to happen, someone would have to view the page on that day.
> 
> Also, lets say I have a time based database field, where I want to
> increment this field based on a certain number of minutes/hours...for
> example every 5 minutes the field would be incremented by one, until a
> certain number is reached, then it stops. This would be real time based
> and not have anything to do with the code on the page, so I can't think
> of how to do it.
> 
>
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RE: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04

2004-06-28 Thread Samuel R. Neff
What he demoed was the ability to call CFC methods in response to non-HTTP
events, such as socket connections, database changes, file changes, etc.
The example he showed had CF watching a "drop" folder and he copied a text
file to the folder and CF automatically detected that the file was added and
ran a CFC method to process the template and import the data into a
database.

Also related on the "not before seen" list was asynchronous method calls so
you can have one request set off a separate cf template call and have things
run in parallel.  No example shown and no more details given.  Very neat
though.

Best regards,

Sam


Blog http://www.rewindlife.com
TeamMM http://www.macromedia.com/go/team 


> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: SOT: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04
> 
> Slight OT here:
> 
> Anyone catch Ben's Blackstone keynote(s) at CF-FUN? It was 
> rumored that he was going to demo some features not 
> previously shown on the User Group tour this summer.
> 
> Anyone have the details?!  ;-)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --
> Alex
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Re: Cheap hosting

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
O.. sounds too good to be true!  a great competition to PHP based
stuff.. too tempting!

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:01:35 -0400, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Mark Drew wrote:
> >
> > What is the deal with blue dragon and linux? surely you have to pay a
> > licence even on linode? and how would THAT work?
> 
> Not if you run the free version of Bluedragon.  The main features you
> don't get with the free version is the ability to deploy servlets/jsps
> and JDBC support for databases other than mysql and postgresql.
> 
> Other than that, I think the free bluedragon has all the CFML
> functionality that the JX version has.
> 
>  - Rick
> 
> 
>
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Re: CFFUN 04 - He3

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Drew
I belive it is an extension to eclipse? http://eclipse.org that allows
coldfusion to be edited.

Eclipse is nearly the de-facto editor for java, very nice

MD

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:49:27 -0400, Tangorre, Michael
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > What's He3, please?
> 
> RTFA  :-)
> 
>
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RE: CFFUN 04 - He3

2004-06-28 Thread Tim Blair
> Didnt attend CFFUN... what is "He3"?

A ColdFusion IDE based around Eclipse[1], developed by RichPalette[2], a
joint venture between R337 Consulting and Gestaltech Inc.[3].  There
have been numerous articles and threads on CF-Talk about it [4][5].

Tim.

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/
[2] http://www.richpalette.com/
[3] http://www.gestaltech.com/
[4] http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45402&DE=1
[6] http://short.badpen.com/?F4RX9101

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