RE: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
 From: Bob Clingan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm curious who is using

 Mach-II...
 Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.

I'll raise my hand! Sean Corfield's development guide was my primary
resource to get into it. There is also a forum with a lot of helpful
people (including yours truly) at fusebox.org:
http://www.fusebox.org/forums/categories.cfm?catid=26

(but personally I prefer mailing lists)
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RE: When to use cachedwithin

2004-11-04 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
|From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Whether or not the RDBMS caches it CF will still have to go to
|the dB server and get it. If you use cachedwithin (or
|cachedafter) then it stays in CF's memory, and no trips to the
|dB are required, so i'd say cache it.
|And don't forget you could put it in a persistent scope
|(either application or server in this case) by using
|cfquery name=application.myquery etc..., and only running
|the query when you start up the application.
|There are pluses and minuses for bother cachedwithin/after and
|persistent scope caching - it depends on the individual case...

Personally I never use cachedwithin -- since you can't use cfqueryparam
with that. Cache within the application scope!

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RE: When to use cachedwithin

2004-11-04 Thread Micha Schopman
Personally I never use cachedwithin -- since you can't use cfqueryparam
with that. Cache within the application scope!

If you do that make sure you create the cache based on the query input.
I've seen many cases where developers just cached the query based on the
cfquery name, but were to stupid to create it based on the query
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RE: getting CF version, other details

2004-11-04 Thread Pascal Peters
Actually, you would be pre-CFMX. Server was not a structure in CF5 and
couldn't be dumped.

Pascal

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 cfdump var=#server#
 
 if the cfdump doesn't work, you're pre-CF 5 :)
 
 
 On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:34:37 -0500, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Isn't there a script that one can run to find this out when you
don't
 have
  access to the administrator?
 
  I know that you can do this in other languages, but not sure for CF.
 
  I am working on a potential client, and would like to find this
stuff
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  without having to ask.
 

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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Ryan Jones
What about Railo or IgniteFusion?  Does anyone know much about these two cfml engines? 
 Are they up to the task, or a step behind CFMX and Bluedragon?

Railo: http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm
IgniteFusion: http://www.ignitefusion.com/

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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Micha Schopman
They are still behind, but I truly hope they become powerful enough to
form competition for Macromedia. For us, the developers, such
competition is always good. :)

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

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Re: Problem with Access driver and Windows 2003 Server

2004-11-04 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 03 Nov 2004 18:03 pm, Jake . wrote:
 Does not verify in CF Admin under the Access or Access w/Unicode drivers.
 SQL Server DSNs seem to be working fine.

Can anything else connect to it ?

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RE: Odd SQL Behaviour, errors generated by values I am not trying to use!

2004-11-04 Thread James Smith
 Why allow a INT(13)? So you can allow an INT(1). If you have 

Not true at all, if we are dealing with character length and the maximum
value for an INT is 4294967295 the INT(1) to INT(10) should work, but
INT(13) should throw an error.  No program should accept erroneous values
and then make up things to do with them because you then get dumb ass
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 True/false, why not use just one bit for it?

I don't know, why not?

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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Ryan Jones
I got the impression from the IgniteFusion site that their product is a cgi-based app 
server, as opposed to java-based like all other cfml engines these days.

Anyone know if this is true or not?

Outside of that, both IgniteFusion and Railo look really intriguing.  They lack 
support for some CFMX tags and functions, but not many.

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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Stewart
No that's not true, you can load jar and java classes it's just not as
straightforward as simply adding them to the class path. See Spike's
article on loading jars.

Cheers
G


On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:40:53 -0400, Ryan Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well Tom, at this point I guess my primary concern is this:
 
 Say along the way I decide to do something with our site that is not directly 
 handled by one of the currently available cfml tags...
 
 With PHP I am basicly open and free to code and make the language do just about 
 anything I want it to.  With cfml, I could find myself at a place where I need to 
 call on java.  However, if I understand correctly, the free version of Bluedragon 
 does not support calls to java nor the parsing of jsp code.
 
 I may be wrong...?
 
 
 
 On Wednesday 03 Nov 2004 13:30 pm, Ryan Jones wrote:
  Will Bluedragon Server really offer me everything PHP does?
 
 Yes.
 And more.
 Did you have something specific in mind ?
 
  servers take up huge amounts of memory, and tend to crash often once the
  traffic starts increasing.  Are these stories true, or rumors?
 
 I expect a full J2EE app like CF will use more resources than PHP embeded in
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RE: getting CF version, other details

2004-11-04 Thread Gavin Brook
cfoutput
Level: #Server.ColdFusion.ProductLevel#br
Name #Server.ColdFusion.ProductName#br
Version #Server.ColdFusion.ProductVersion#
/cfoutput

Gives the following in CF5 for me:

Level: Enterprise
Name ColdFusion Server
Version 5, 0, 0, 0 

This definitely works for CF5 and up.

Gavin

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Isn't there a script that one can run to find this out when you don't have 
access to the administrator?

I know that you can do this in other languages, but not sure for CF.

I am working on a potential client, and would like to find this stuff out 
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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Calvin Ward
Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does not work in the same fashion 
as the actual CFMX product that you will want to factor into your decision making.


- Calvin

-Original Message-
From:  Ryan Jones 
Date:  11/4/04 2:17 am
To:  CF-Talk 
Subj:  Re: Bluedragon Server

What about Railo or IgniteFusion?  Does anyone know much about these two cfml engines? 
 Are they up to the task, or a step behind CFMX and Bluedragon?

Railo: http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm
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Re: Odd SQL Behaviour, errors generated by values I am not trying to use!

2004-11-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
James Smith wrote:
Why allow a INT(13)? So you can allow an INT(1). If you have 
 
 Not true at all, if we are dealing with character length and the maximum
 value for an INT is 4294967295 the INT(1) to INT(10) should work, but
 INT(13) should throw an error.

The number behind the INT is a display mask. It is about 
formatting the data, it does not have any significance on 
accepted values for the field. And we all know that formatting 
should be handled in the frontend, so it is a useless feature.


 No program should accept erroneous values
 and then make up things to do with them because you then get dumb ass
 results, if the value is invalid an error should be thrown.

I agree, throwing errors is one of the most important features of 
any program: it tells you something is wrong. It is one of the 
most important reasons why I dislike MySQL.


 True/false, why not use just one bit for it?
 
 I don't know, why not?

Because a bit does not accept the literals TRUE and FALSE. If you 
want to store a boolean value, use a boolean datatype.

Jochem

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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML Compatibility Guide
is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the first 7 pages are title page, table
of contents, intro, etc. Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes
enhancements that BD 6.1 provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion (such
as CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, inclusive (a total of
7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document describes
BlueDragon enhancements.

In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.

Regards,

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 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
 
 Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does not 
 work in the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you 
 will want to factor into your decision making.
 
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  Ryan Jones
 Date:  11/4/04 2:17 am
 To:  CF-Talk
 Subj:  Re: Bluedragon Server
 
 What about Railo or IgniteFusion?  Does anyone know much 
 about these two cfml engines?  Are they up to the task, or a 
 step behind CFMX and Bluedragon?
 
 Railo: http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm
 IgniteFusion: http://www.ignitefusion.com/
 



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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
I should have said: in BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even
shorter, but the list of enhancements is longer.

Vince

 -Original Message-
 From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML 
 Compatibility Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the 
 first 7 pages are title page, table of contents, intro, etc. 
 Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements 
 that BD 6.1 provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion 
 (such as CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, 
 inclusive (a total of
 7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document 
 describes BlueDragon enhancements.
 
 In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Vince Bonfanti
 New Atlanta Communications, LLC
 http://www.newatlanta.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
  
  Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does 
 not work in 
  the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you will want to 
  factor into your decision making.
  
  
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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Sorry, I should get my thoughts together completely before writing these...

Of the 7 pages of BlueDragon 6.1 incompatibilities, many of these are same
incompatibilities you'll find when upgrading from CF5 to CFMX, such as lack
of support for DSN-less connections and differences between the way Oracle
stored procedures are invoked.

I don't have the CFMX docs handing, but I wonder how many pages there are
describing incompatibilities between CF5 and CFMX?

Vince 

 -Original Message-
 From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 I should have said: in BlueDragon 6.2, the list of 
 incompatibilities is even shorter, but the list of 
 enhancements is longer.
 
 Vince
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:46 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
  
  Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML 
 Compatibility 
  Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the first 7 pages 
 are title 
  page, table of contents, intro, etc.
  Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements 
 that BD 6.1 
  provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion (such as 
 CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, 
  etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, inclusive (a total of
  7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document describes 
  BlueDragon enhancements.
  
  In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.
  
  Regards,
  
  Vince Bonfanti
  New Atlanta Communications, LLC
  http://www.newatlanta.com
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
   
   Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does
  not work in
   the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you will want to 
   factor into your decision making.
   
   
   - Calvin
   
 
 
 
 

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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Adam Haskell
Yes on enhancement DB has that Macromedia STILL does not support is
better implementation of xpaths and I applaud BD for this...i can't
beleive you can't do xmlsearch(myXMLobj,'count(//node)') in MM's
ColdFusion...its madening.

Isn' Ralio still in Alpha, or atleast early beta? 

Adam H


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:48:33 -0500, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I should have said: in BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even
 shorter, but the list of enhancements is longer.
 
 Vince
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:46 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
  Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML
  Compatibility Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the
  first 7 pages are title page, table of contents, intro, etc.
  Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements
  that BD 6.1 provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion
  (such as CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, etc.). So only pages 8 through 14,
  inclusive (a total of
  7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document
  describes BlueDragon enhancements.
 
  In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.
 
  Regards,
 
  Vince Bonfanti
  New Atlanta Communications, LLC
  http://www.newatlanta.com
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
  
   Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does
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   factor into your decision making.
  
  
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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Ryan Jones
Yes, according to their website, Railo is in Alpha 4, with an expected release of 
version 1.0 during the first part of 2005.


Yes on enhancement DB has that Macromedia STILL does not support is
better implementation of xpaths and I applaud BD for this...i can't
beleive you can't do xmlsearch(myXMLobj,'count(//node)') in MM's
ColdFusion...its madening.

Isn' Ralio still in Alpha, or atleast early beta? 

Adam H


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Re: Online Presentations

2004-11-04 Thread Dan O'Keefe
https://www.gotomeeting.com/en_US/island/entry.tmpl

Dan


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Help receiving XML

2004-11-04 Thread John Stanley
All,
I am hoping someone can help me out by transmitting the following
xml to this url:
http://216.141.242.9/app_ptm/ignoreapplicationcfm/integres_xml_feed.cfm
using CF and hopefully someone out there knows asp and can do the same using
POST. We are working with a .NET shop in both transmitting and receiving XML
data. We have agreed to use post as the method. When they transmit to us,
and I look at the method header from GetHttpRequestData, it is saying they
are using GET. And when I look at the content header for the Get
transmission, there is nothing there. In talking to them they say that our
system is interpreting their posting to our site as GET, and that they
cannot write their code to use form submissions. I don't know if .Net has a
similar feature to our CFHttp that just allows you to make http requests
without using forms. I am kind of new to the whole handling receiving of
http requests where you actually dissect the headers to get the info you
need, so it's entirely possible that I am doing it improperly on my end.

At the end of this email I have included the code from the page that
receives the requests. Am I limiting myself by using the canned CF function
GetHttpRequestData? If anyone has any suggestions on a better way to do any
of this, I am all ears.

When I test this locally, by using CFHTTP post and then looking at the
header info using GetHttpRequestData, everything appears to work great. I
receive the xml fine and am able to work with it.

 BEGIN SAMPLE XML 
Transmission
TransmissionHeader
TransmissionTypeSHIPMENTSTATUS/TransmissionType
VersionID3.0/VersionID
SenderID001/SenderID
ReceiverID001/ReceiverID
UserNamebhartigan/UserName
Passwordaaa/Password
TransmissionID20041100290001/TransmissionID
TransmissionDate2004110029/TransmissionDate
ForeignSenderIDINTEGRES/ForeignSenderID
ForeignReceiverIDINTEGRES/ForeignReceiverID
/TransmissionHeader
ShipmentStatus

OriginalTrackingNumber179155/OriginalTrackingNumber

OtherServiceInformation179155/OtherServiceInformation
ServiceProviderRapidCourierFre/ServiceProvider
HAWBIGL00200646/HAWB
MAWB8386877/MAWB
EventDate20041029235900/EventDate
PostalCode32303/PostalCode
CountryCodeUSA/CountryCode
StatusCodeIGLPUP/StatusCode
EventShipUnitCount3/EventShipUnitCount
EventWeightCodeL/EventWeightCode
EventWeight3000/EventWeight
EventWeightCodeK/EventWeightCode
ShipmentDescriptionCodeT/ShipmentDescriptionCode
MAWBDetails
MAWB8386877/MAWB

DepartureDate20041029235900/DepartureDate

DepartureAirport27822360/DepartureAirport
ArrivalDate2004110112/ArrivalDate
ArrivalAirportMCO/ArrivalAirport
WeightCodeK/WeightCode
Weight3000./Weight
ShipUnitCount3/ShipUnitCount
/MAWBDetails
/ShipmentStatus
/Transmission
## END SAMPLE XML 

## BEGIN PROCESSING PAGE##
cfset httpReq = GetHttpRequestData()

cfset write_string = chr(13)  chr(10)  chr(13)  chr(10) 
dateformat(now(),mm/dd/)   timeformat(now(),HH:mm:ss)  chr(13)
 chr(10)  httpReq.protocol  chr(13)  chr(10)  httpReq.method  chr(13)
 chr(10)  cgi.http_user_agent  chr(13)  chr(10)  cgi.remote_addr 
chr(13)  chr(10)  httpReq.Content
cffile action=append
file=c:\inetpub\wwwroot\aeronet\logs\integres_inbound.txt
output=#write_string# addnewline=Yes 

cftry
cfset xmlDoc = xmlparse(httpReq.content)
cfcatch type=Any
xml
error
Transmission format not recognized, or Error
in XML format.
/error
/xml
cfabort
/cfcatch
/cftry

xml
statusTransmission Successful/status
/xml
##END PROCESSING PAGE###

Thanks in advance,

John Stanley
Web Application Developer
Active Aero Group
http://www.activeaero.com
734-547-7277



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Re: Help receiving XML

2004-11-04 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 04 Nov 2004 14:00 pm, John Stanley wrote:
 GetHttpRequestData? If anyone has any suggestions on a better way to do any
 of this, I am all ears.

Get a decent traffic sniffer and see what is actualy being sent.

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Re: Help receiving XML

2004-11-04 Thread Joe Rinehart
John,

You may want to look into using Web Services to take care of this -
it's a lot easier!

-joe


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:00:31 -0500, John Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All,
 I am hoping someone can help me out by transmitting the following
 xml to this url:
 http://216.141.242.9/app_ptm/ignoreapplicationcfm/integres_xml_feed.cfm
 using CF and hopefully someone out there knows asp and can do the same using
 POST. We are working with a .NET shop in both transmitting and receiving XML
 data. We have agreed to use post as the method. When they transmit to us,
 and I look at the method header from GetHttpRequestData, it is saying they
 are using GET. And when I look at the content header for the Get
 transmission, there is nothing there. In talking to them they say that our
 system is interpreting their posting to our site as GET, and that they
 cannot write their code to use form submissions. I don't know if .Net has a
 similar feature to our CFHttp that just allows you to make http requests
 without using forms. I am kind of new to the whole handling receiving of
 http requests where you actually dissect the headers to get the info you
 need, so it's entirely possible that I am doing it improperly on my end.
 
 At the end of this email I have included the code from the page that
 receives the requests. Am I limiting myself by using the canned CF function
 GetHttpRequestData? If anyone has any suggestions on a better way to do any
 of this, I am all ears.
 
 When I test this locally, by using CFHTTP post and then looking at the
 header info using GetHttpRequestData, everything appears to work great. I
 receive the xml fine and am able to work with it.
 
  BEGIN SAMPLE XML 
 Transmission
 TransmissionHeader
 TransmissionTypeSHIPMENTSTATUS/TransmissionType
 VersionID3.0/VersionID
 SenderID001/SenderID
 ReceiverID001/ReceiverID
 UserNamebhartigan/UserName
 Passwordaaa/Password
 TransmissionID20041100290001/TransmissionID
 TransmissionDate2004110029/TransmissionDate
 ForeignSenderIDINTEGRES/ForeignSenderID
 ForeignReceiverIDINTEGRES/ForeignReceiverID
 /TransmissionHeader
 ShipmentStatus
 
 OriginalTrackingNumber179155/OriginalTrackingNumber
 
 OtherServiceInformation179155/OtherServiceInformation
 ServiceProviderRapidCourierFre/ServiceProvider
 HAWBIGL00200646/HAWB
 MAWB8386877/MAWB
 EventDate20041029235900/EventDate
 PostalCode32303/PostalCode
 CountryCodeUSA/CountryCode
 StatusCodeIGLPUP/StatusCode
 EventShipUnitCount3/EventShipUnitCount
 EventWeightCodeL/EventWeightCode
 EventWeight3000/EventWeight
 EventWeightCodeK/EventWeightCode
 ShipmentDescriptionCodeT/ShipmentDescriptionCode
 MAWBDetails
 MAWB8386877/MAWB
 
 DepartureDate20041029235900/DepartureDate
 
 DepartureAirport27822360/DepartureAirport
 ArrivalDate2004110112/ArrivalDate
 ArrivalAirportMCO/ArrivalAirport
 WeightCodeK/WeightCode
 Weight3000./Weight
 ShipUnitCount3/ShipUnitCount
 /MAWBDetails
 /ShipmentStatus
 /Transmission
 ## END SAMPLE XML 
 
 ## BEGIN PROCESSING PAGE##
 cfset httpReq = GetHttpRequestData()
 
 cfset write_string = chr(13)  chr(10)  chr(13)  chr(10) 
 dateformat(now(),mm/dd/)   timeformat(now(),HH:mm:ss)  chr(13)
  chr(10)  httpReq.protocol  chr(13)  chr(10)  httpReq.method  chr(13)
  chr(10)  cgi.http_user_agent  chr(13)  chr(10)  cgi.remote_addr 
 chr(13)  chr(10)  httpReq.Content
 cffile action=append
 file=c:\inetpub\wwwroot\aeronet\logs\integres_inbound.txt
 output=#write_string# addnewline=Yes
 
 cftry
 cfset xmlDoc = xmlparse(httpReq.content)
 cfcatch type=Any
 xml
 error
 Transmission format not recognized, or Error
 in XML format.
 /error
 /xml
 cfabort
 /cfcatch
 /cftry
 
 xml
 statusTransmission Successful/status
 /xml
 ##END PROCESSING PAGE###
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 John Stanley
 Web Application Developer
 Active Aero Group
 http://www.activeaero.com
 734-547-7277
 
 

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Re: Odd SQL Behaviour, errors generated by values I am not trying to use!

2004-11-04 Thread George Abraham
Hmm,
SQL Server dows not seem to have a datatype for boolean values. I use
the bit data type for it usually, but was wondering if that was one
drawback for SQL Server.

George


  True/false, why not use just one bit for it?
 
  I don't know, why not?
 
 Because a bit does not accept the literals TRUE and FALSE. If you
 want to store a boolean value, use a boolean datatype.
 
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RE: OT: How do I print out a directory listing in XP

2004-11-04 Thread Tangorre, Michael
 From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: How do I print out a directory listing in XP
 http://www.rohanclan.com/library/printdirlist.cfm

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I need to print out a directory listing for a disk I am sending to a
 printer.
  Can someone tell me how to do this?


Once one follows the steps in the link above, how do you remove it!
Every time I click on a folder it opens Windows search!! AcK!

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Re: Odd SQL Behaviour, errors generated by values I am not trying to use!

2004-11-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
George Abraham wrote:
 
 SQL Server dows not seem to have a datatype for boolean values.

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

Ask for ISO/IEC 9075-2:2003 feature T031, BOOLEAN data type :-)


 I use
 the bit data type for it usually, but was wondering if that was one
 drawback for SQL Server.

It does not accept literal TRUE / FALSE values. Which is a 
portability issue, because even in Access you can use them:
SELECT  *
FROMtable
WHERE   field = TRUE.

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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Ryan Jones
So has anyone here actually used IgniteFusion on a site in production?  

I realize it is a bit behind CFMX and Bluedragon, but perhaps it has enough to justify 
using it, considering its no-strings-attached free license.

I mean, for common database interaction, email transaction, etc, certainly it is up to 
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RE: OT: How do I print out a directory listing in XP

2004-11-04 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Nevermind. Regedit did it.


Michael T. Tangorre  

 -Original Message-
 From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: OT: How do I print out a directory listing in XP
 
  From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: OT: How do I print out a directory listing in XP 
  http://www.rohanclan.com/library/printdirlist.cfm
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   I need to print out a directory listing for a disk I am 
 sending to a
  printer.
   Can someone tell me how to do this?
 
 
 Once one follows the steps in the link above, how do you remove it!
 Every time I click on a folder it opens Windows search!! AcK!
 
 

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Re: OT: How do I print out a directory listing in XP

2004-11-04 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 04 Nov 2004 15:36 pm, Tangorre, Michael wrote:
 Every time I click on a folder it opens Windows search!! AcK!

I fixed it by installing Linux.

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RE: cfqueryparam oddity

2004-11-04 Thread Burns, John D
Speaking of Blackstone, are NDAs out the window now because of MAX?  Can we talk 
freely?  Or does the MAX copy say something about Opening this means you accept the 
NDA and maybe this message will self destruct in 30 seconds?
 
John



From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 11/4/2004 1:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfqueryparam oddity



i have the same problem, its new, never happened before, and is now
happening, same kind of code, almost exact actually.

but same problem.

what gives?

ps.  its works in s... (bla**st**) just fine, just not in cfmx 6.1

tw


On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:21:40 -0700, Charlie Griefer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what's the exact datatype of the field in the database?

 On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:31:59 -0800, Brook Davies


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, I added the val function AFTER getting the error - it makes no
  difference...
 
 
 
  At 03:09 PM 11/3/2004, you wrote:
  do you need the val() function?  is the value coming in as a string or
  numeric?
  
  what happens if you simply cfoutput#val(arguments.case_id)#/cfoutput?
  
  
  On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:50:24 -0800, Brook Davies
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This query was working fine, with the arguments.case_id variable being
30026 (and the function it is in is set to receive the case_id as numeric.
Bottom line is it IS numeric.
   
cfquery datasource=#request.datasource# name=getExpenseRecord
select payment_mode from expense
where case_id = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
value=#val(arguments.case_id)#
/cfquery
   
Now all of a sudden I get this error unless I remove the cfqueryparam and
do it without. So its not a big deal, I'm just curious as to what the hecks
happening:
   
Error Executing Database Query.
[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Value can not be converted to requested
type. 
   
Is this a bug?
   
Brook D.
logiforms.com
   
   
  
  
 
 





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RE: OT: How do I print out a directory listing in XP

2004-11-04 Thread Tangorre, Michael
 I fixed it by installing Linux.

Bah! Lets not get carried away!

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RE: Help receiving XML

2004-11-04 Thread John Stanley
thanks for the recommendation.

john

-Original Message-
From: Joe Rinehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Help receiving XML


John,

You may want to look into using Web Services to take care of this -
it's a lot easier!

-joe


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:00:31 -0500, John Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 All,
 I am hoping someone can help me out by transmitting the following
 xml to this url:
 http://216.141.242.9/app_ptm/ignoreapplicationcfm/integres_xml_feed.cfm
 using CF and hopefully someone out there knows asp and can do the same
using
 POST. We are working with a .NET shop in both transmitting and receiving
XML
 data. We have agreed to use post as the method. When they transmit to us,
 and I look at the method header from GetHttpRequestData, it is saying they
 are using GET. And when I look at the content header for the Get
 transmission, there is nothing there. In talking to them they say that our
 system is interpreting their posting to our site as GET, and that they
 cannot write their code to use form submissions. I don't know if .Net has
a
 similar feature to our CFHttp that just allows you to make http requests
 without using forms. I am kind of new to the whole handling receiving of
 http requests where you actually dissect the headers to get the info you
 need, so it's entirely possible that I am doing it improperly on my end.
 
 At the end of this email I have included the code from the page that
 receives the requests. Am I limiting myself by using the canned CF
function
 GetHttpRequestData? If anyone has any suggestions on a better way to do
any
 of this, I am all ears.
 
 When I test this locally, by using CFHTTP post and then looking at the
 header info using GetHttpRequestData, everything appears to work great. I
 receive the xml fine and am able to work with it.
 
  BEGIN SAMPLE XML 
 Transmission
 TransmissionHeader

TransmissionTypeSHIPMENTSTATUS/TransmissionType
 VersionID3.0/VersionID
 SenderID001/SenderID
 ReceiverID001/ReceiverID
 UserNamebhartigan/UserName
 Passwordaaa/Password

TransmissionID20041100290001/TransmissionID

TransmissionDate2004110029/TransmissionDate
 ForeignSenderIDINTEGRES/ForeignSenderID
 ForeignReceiverIDINTEGRES/ForeignReceiverID
 /TransmissionHeader
 ShipmentStatus
 
 OriginalTrackingNumber179155/OriginalTrackingNumber
 
 OtherServiceInformation179155/OtherServiceInformation
 ServiceProviderRapidCourierFre/ServiceProvider
 HAWBIGL00200646/HAWB
 MAWB8386877/MAWB
 EventDate20041029235900/EventDate
 PostalCode32303/PostalCode
 CountryCodeUSA/CountryCode
 StatusCodeIGLPUP/StatusCode
 EventShipUnitCount3/EventShipUnitCount
 EventWeightCodeL/EventWeightCode
 EventWeight3000/EventWeight
 EventWeightCodeK/EventWeightCode

ShipmentDescriptionCodeT/ShipmentDescriptionCode
 MAWBDetails
 MAWB8386877/MAWB
 
 DepartureDate20041029235900/DepartureDate
 
 DepartureAirport27822360/DepartureAirport
 ArrivalDate2004110112/ArrivalDate
 ArrivalAirportMCO/ArrivalAirport
 WeightCodeK/WeightCode
 Weight3000./Weight
 ShipUnitCount3/ShipUnitCount
 /MAWBDetails
 /ShipmentStatus
 /Transmission
 ## END SAMPLE XML 
 
 ## BEGIN PROCESSING PAGE##
 cfset httpReq = GetHttpRequestData()
 
 cfset write_string = chr(13)  chr(10)  chr(13)  chr(10) 
 dateformat(now(),mm/dd/)   timeformat(now(),HH:mm:ss) 
chr(13)
  chr(10)  httpReq.protocol  chr(13)  chr(10)  httpReq.method 
chr(13)
  chr(10)  cgi.http_user_agent  chr(13)  chr(10)  cgi.remote_addr 
 chr(13)  chr(10)  httpReq.Content
 cffile action=append
 file=c:\inetpub\wwwroot\aeronet\logs\integres_inbound.txt
 output=#write_string# addnewline=Yes
 
 cftry
 cfset xmlDoc = xmlparse(httpReq.content)
 cfcatch type=Any
 xml
 error
 Transmission format not recognized, or
Error
 in XML format.
 /error
 /xml
 cfabort
 /cfcatch
 /cftry
 
 xml
 statusTransmission Successful/status
 /xml
 ##END PROCESSING PAGE###
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 John Stanley
 Web Application Developer
 Active Aero Group
 http://www.activeaero.com
 

Re: cfqueryparam oddity

2004-11-04 Thread John Beynon
NDAs will all still apply. I'm pretty sure even at the end of the beta
you can't actually 'freely discuss' what went on during the beta,

jb.



On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:01:39 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Speaking of Blackstone, are NDAs out the window now because of MAX?  Can we talk 
 freely?  Or does the MAX copy say something about Opening this means you accept the 
 NDA and maybe this message will self destruct in 30 seconds?
 
 John
 
 
 
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thu 11/4/2004 1:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: cfqueryparam oddity
 
 
 
 
 i have the same problem, its new, never happened before, and is now
 happening, same kind of code, almost exact actually.
 
 but same problem.
 
 what gives?
 
 ps.  its works in s... (bla**st**) just fine, just not in cfmx 6.1
 
 tw
 
 On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:21:40 -0700, Charlie Griefer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what's the exact datatype of the field in the database?
 
  On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:31:59 -0800, Brook Davies
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Actually, I added the val function AFTER getting the error - it makes no
   difference...
  
  
  
   At 03:09 PM 11/3/2004, you wrote:
   do you need the val() function?  is the value coming in as a string or
   numeric?
   
   what happens if you simply cfoutput#val(arguments.case_id)#/cfoutput?
   
   
   On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:50:24 -0800, Brook Davies
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This query was working fine, with the arguments.case_id variable being
 30026 (and the function it is in is set to receive the case_id as numeric.
 Bottom line is it IS numeric.

 cfquery datasource=#request.datasource# name=getExpenseRecord
 select payment_mode from expense
 where case_id = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
 value=#val(arguments.case_id)#
 /cfquery

 Now all of a sudden I get this error unless I remove the cfqueryparam and
 do it without. So its not a big deal, I'm just curious as to what the hecks
 happening:

 Error Executing Database Query.
 [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Value can not be converted to requested
 type. 

 Is this a bug?

 Brook D.
 logiforms.com


   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: Help receiving XML

2004-11-04 Thread John Stanley
Joe,
thanks for the recommendation.

john

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Help receiving XML


John,

You may want to look into using Web Services to take care of this -
it's a lot easier!

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output listing problem

2004-11-04 Thread DRE
Hi,
I have a tricky little issue. Maybe someone can help me.

I have a query that returns a grouped output.  There are items that
have mutiple dates and those dates have to be in order.

Kinda like this.

item z datea dateb datec
item r datee datef dateg

so my query is like 
select item, date
where itemid = date_itemid
order by itemid, date

And the output looks like this
cfoutput query=me group=item
   #item#
   cfoutput
  #date#
   /cfoutput
/cfoutput

So, in order to keep the dates outputing right, I have to order them
after the item in the sql order by.

Now my problem is this: I have to have the item with the earliest date
first.  However, to keep the cfoutput group working, I have to have
the date by as secondary to the item.

I'm thinking I can do it by dumping it into an array of structures and
then sorting the array of structures or something like that or perhaps
writing a sp.  This page will be hit a lot so I'm trying to keep it
simple and fast.

cfmx and sql2000.

Any ideas???

Thanks in advance.
DRE

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CFFile Issue

2004-11-04 Thread Jeff Waris
Something is not right... Has anyone else run across this... I have a query
that I write the results to a file using CFFILE. Very simple, albeit its a
large result set though.

I loop that query to write each record out to a line in a text file. I use
the code CFFILE ACTION=Append

After about 70k it errors out. I get this off the cfcatch variables.

An error occurred when performing a file operation Append on file
C:\Archive\X.txt.
The cause of this exception was: java.io.IOException: Cannot create a file
when that file already exists.

My feeling is that there is something locking the file not allowing to be
appended to. Has anyone else run across this. Is there a timeout setting
anywhere that I might be able to set... This is frustrating because this
code worked just fine on CF5? Anyone with any ideas?

Thanks...
Jeff


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Re: cfqueryparam oddity

2004-11-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Burns, John D wrote:
 Speaking of Blackstone, are NDAs out the window now because of MAX?

I seriously doubt that. Previous NDA's from Macromedia never 
expired, but allowed you to talk about information that was 
public, i.e. also obtainable through other channels. Presuming 
Macromedia has not changed the text of the NDA, if Ben Forta says 
X about Blackstone, you are allowed to talk about X, but your NDA 
still applies to Y and Z.

Presuming you are in the Blackstone beta: just take a few minutes 
to actually *read* the NDA you have agreed to. Understanding a 
simple legal document should not be out of reach for any native 
speaker who is willing to spend the effort.

Jochem

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RE: CFFile Issue

2004-11-04 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Jeff Waris wrote:
 I loop that query to write each record out to a line in a text file. I use
 the code CFFILE ACTION=Append

 After about 70k it errors out. I get this off the cfcatch variables.

Jeff:

I've never run across that problem but it may well be as you suggest... some
sort of locking error.

There is a more efficient way of doing what you want that would likely
resolve any locking issues too.  Instead of writing each line to the file
separately, build the contents of the file in memory and then write it all
out in one shot.  Something like:

CFSET CrLf = Chr(13)  Chr(10)
CFSET Output = 

CFLOOP QUERY=myQuery
CFSET Output = Output  myQuery.Col1  ,  myQuery.Col2  CrLf
/CFLOOP

CFFILE ACTION=Write FILE=foo.txt OUTPUT=#Output#

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Accessing structures

2004-11-04 Thread James Smith
OK, Stupid question time...

I have a structure in the form Variable.Structure.Reference that I need to
access, however Reference is an array (which I can loop with arraylen, no
problem there) but it's name changes depending on form input.

If I know the name (ie: in testing) I can get the first value from the array
with Variable.Structure.Reference[1] however in the real world I do not
know the name of the array, or if it exists at all.  Is there some other way
I can reference it?

I tried Variable.Structure.[1][1] with no joy but there must be something
similar.

Any help?

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Re: Accessing structures

2004-11-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
run a structKeyArray() or structKeyList() function on
variable.structure.  it will return an array (or a list) of the keys
in the struct, and you can loop over that.


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:38:47 -, James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, Stupid question time...
 
 I have a structure in the form Variable.Structure.Reference that I need to
 access, however Reference is an array (which I can loop with arraylen, no
 problem there) but it's name changes depending on form input.
 
 If I know the name (ie: in testing) I can get the first value from the array
 with Variable.Structure.Reference[1] however in the real world I do not
 know the name of the array, or if it exists at all.  Is there some other way
 I can reference it?
 
 I tried Variable.Structure.[1][1] with no joy but there must be something
 similar.
 
 Any help?
 
 --
 James Smith
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

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Re: Accessing structures

2004-11-04 Thread Ben Doom
variable.structure[reference][7]

I think that's what you're looking for.

James Smith wrote:
 OK, Stupid question time...
 
 I have a structure in the form Variable.Structure.Reference that I need to
 access, however Reference is an array (which I can loop with arraylen, no
 problem there) but it's name changes depending on form input.
 
 If I know the name (ie: in testing) I can get the first value from the array
 with Variable.Structure.Reference[1] however in the real world I do not
 know the name of the array, or if it exists at all.  Is there some other way
 I can reference it?
 
 I tried Variable.Structure.[1][1] with no joy but there must be something
 similar.
 
 Any help?
 
 --
 James Smith
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 

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RE: Application framework - examples

2004-11-04 Thread Jason L. West, Sr.
Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) is a good one to use for out of the box
implementation of a website. It was originally Spectra before it Macromedia
released the source code and made it open source.  

If this is the avenue your wanting to go down you might also consider
CF_Nuke (http://www.mycfnuke.com).  This is the cfml version of phpnuke
which is also a community supported CMS application.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
 
Jason L. West, Sr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Marco Antonio C. Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 17:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Application framework - examples

Thanx Damien

but I'm looking for application framework - design side - and don't CF
application.cfm framework... More design side, like contract menu,
Admin framework

Do you know Farcry? Farcry haves a good application framework...

Thanx.


Marco


On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:40:36 -0400, Damien McKenna
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marco Antonio C. Santos wrote:
 
 I'm looking for application frameworks for our CF application. Don't
 talk about CF application.cfm but models to construct navigations,
 menus like Farcry Admin, SmartCMS Admin, BlueShoes PHP framework, etc.
 
 
 What are your requirements?  There are architectural frameworks like
 Fusebox, Mach-II which give you a loose structure to your code
 architecture, then there are some that also wrap content management into
 the equation, like some of the ones you mention.
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Re: Accessing structures

2004-11-04 Thread Ben Doom
Never mind -- missed the bit about not knowing the array name.

--Ben

Ben Doom wrote:
 variable.structure[reference][7]
 
 I think that's what you're looking for.
 
 James Smith wrote:
 
OK, Stupid question time...

I have a structure in the form Variable.Structure.Reference that I need to
access, however Reference is an array (which I can loop with arraylen, no
problem there) but it's name changes depending on form input.

If I know the name (ie: in testing) I can get the first value from the array
with Variable.Structure.Reference[1] however in the real world I do not
know the name of the array, or if it exists at all.  Is there some other way
I can reference it?

I tried Variable.Structure.[1][1] with no joy but there must be something
similar.

Any help?

--
James Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 
 
 

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Re: Application framework - examples

2004-11-04 Thread Barney Boisvert
Farcry isn't Spectra, and has been around a lot longer than since MM
released the Spectra source.  It happens to share a lot of
architectual similarities, but is completely separate.

cheers,
barneyb

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:46:43 -0500, Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) is a good one to use for out of the box
 implementation of a website. It was originally Spectra before it Macromedia
 released the source code and made it open source.
 
 If this is the avenue your wanting to go down you might also consider
 CF_Nuke (http://www.mycfnuke.com).  This is the cfml version of phpnuke
 which is also a community supported CMS application.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jason L. West, Sr.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: Accessing structures

2004-11-04 Thread Nathan Strutz
You can also loop directly over a structure

cfloop collection=#variables.structure# item=i
cfset myArray = variables.structure[i]
!--- array handling stuff here ---
/cfloop

Or the nicer (my opinion) cfscript loop

for (i in variables.structure) {
myArray =  variables.structure[i];
// array handling stuff here
}

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/


Charlie Griefer wrote:
 run a structKeyArray() or structKeyList() function on
 variable.structure.  it will return an array (or a list) of the keys
 in the struct, and you can loop over that.
 
 
 On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:38:47 -, James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
OK, Stupid question time...

I have a structure in the form Variable.Structure.Reference that I need to
access, however Reference is an array (which I can loop with arraylen, no
problem there) but it's name changes depending on form input.

If I know the name (ie: in testing) I can get the first value from the array
with Variable.Structure.Reference[1] however in the real world I do not
know the name of the array, or if it exists at all.  Is there some other way
I can reference it?

I tried Variable.Structure.[1][1] with no joy but there must be something
similar.

Any help?

--
James Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 
 
 

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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Kwang Suh
If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on using 
Mach-II sometime in December.  I wasn't too satified with the amount and quality of 
documentation out there.

I'm curious who is using Mach-II...

Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.

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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Calvin Ward
I actually said variances not limitations.


If you are developing products that are intended to be deployed cross platform, then 
you have consider all variances.


- Calvin
-Original Message-
From:  Vince Bonfanti
Date:  11/4/04 6:46 am
To:  CF-Talk 
Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server

Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML Compatibility Guide
is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the first 7 pages are title page, table
of contents, intro, etc. Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes
enhancements that BD 6.1 provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion (such
as CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, inclusive (a total of
7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document describes
BlueDragon enhancements.

In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.

Regards,

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http://www.newatlanta.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
 
 Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does not 
 work in the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you 
 will want to factor into your decision making.
 
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  Ryan Jones
 Date:  11/4/04 2:17 am
 To:  CF-Talk
 Subj:  Re: Bluedragon Server
 
 What about Railo or IgniteFusion?  Does anyone know much 
 about these two cfml engines?  Are they up to the task, or a 
 step behind CFMX and Bluedragon?
 
 Railo: http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm
 IgniteFusion: http://www.ignitefusion.com/
 





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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Calvin Ward
While that may be true, it seems probable the the release of Blackstone will further 
create a gap between actual CFMX and BD


- Calvin

-Original Message-
From:  Vince Bonfanti
Date:  11/4/04 6:49 am
To:  CF-Talk 
Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server

I should have said: in BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even
shorter, but the list of enhancements is longer.

Vince

 -Original Message-
 From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML 
 Compatibility Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the 
 first 7 pages are title page, table of contents, intro, etc. 
 Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements 
 that BD 6.1 provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion 
 (such as CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, 
 inclusive (a total of
 7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document 
 describes BlueDragon enhancements.
 
 In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Vince Bonfanti
 New Atlanta Communications, LLC
 http://www.newatlanta.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
  
  Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does 
 not work in 
  the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you will want to 
  factor into your decision making.
  
  
  - Calvin
  





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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
/me raises hand.

i'd check it out :)


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:51:08 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on 
 using Mach-II sometime in December.  I wasn't too satified with the amount and 
 quality of documentation out there.
 
 I'm curious who is using Mach-II...
 
 Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.
 
 

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Re: Split ouptut to MULTIPLIE sheets in Excel.

2004-11-04 Thread Jonathan Nickle
Problem with the XML solution I just found was that the XML file that is created 
(named file.xls) is HUGE.  30,000 records (with only 12 columns of text) creates a 
42MB file.  When this file is then saved through Excel as an .xls workbook it is only 
16MB.  There is obviously some overhead in file size with the XML file.

Not only is this huge, but Excel takes an extra long time to translate this file when 
opening (3 minutes on a very fast machine).

In addition, when I tried to produce a file with 120,000 records (split into 3 
sheets), it bombed out with the out of memory error.  This makes sense after I saw 
what the file size is with ony 30,000 records.  Arghhh!!! 

Next approach I am working on is to use the COM object and interface with Excel 
automatically... 

I will post the results if anyone replies to this.

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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Nathan Strutz
Sure. I would certainly read it!

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/

Kwang Suh wrote:
 If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on 
 using Mach-II sometime in December.  I wasn't too satified with the amount and 
 quality of documentation out there.
 
 
I'm curious who is using Mach-II...

Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.
 
 
 

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RE: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Tangorre, Michael
 From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, 
 detailed tutorial on using Mach-II sometime in December.  I 
 wasn't too satified with the amount and quality of 
 documentation out there.

Kwang, MANY people would be interested in it; me included.

Mike

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About Flex

2004-11-04 Thread Hassan Arteaga Rodriguez
Hi All:
 
Where I can find documentation about Flex. Just for beginners. There is
available some book about Flex 1.5 ?
 
Regards
 
__
M.Sc. Hassan Arteaga Rodríguez
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
IT Specialist
DIGI Grupo de Desarrollo. COPEXTEL, S.A.
 
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Inexpensive Hosted Webstore?

2004-11-04 Thread Jim McAtee
We have a client that wants to set up an online store to sell a handful of 
products.  They can't spend much for software licensing, site development 
or a merchant account.  They do already have the ability already to run 
credit cards at their business.

Is there a decent, inexpensive means for them to get online without a 
merchant account?  I'm not talking about something to install on their CF 
web site, like CF Webstore or anything similar.   Something hosted 
elsewhere, where they get a simple email notification of new sales placed 
online, then they go to a secure web page and retrieve credit card 
information.  It would need the usual capabilities of entering products, 
uploading product photos, adding sales taxes and computing shipping 
charges for a selection of shippers.

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Re: Split ouptut to MULTIPLIE sheets in Excel.

2004-11-04 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:59:51 -0400, Jonathan Nickle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Problem with the XML solution I just found was that the XML file that is created 
 (named file.xls) is HUGE.  30,000 records (with only 12 columns of text) creates a 
 42MB file.  When this file is then saved through Excel as an .xls workbook it is 
 only 16MB.  There is obviously some overhead in file size with the XML file.
 
 Not only is this huge, but Excel takes an extra long time to translate this file 
 when opening (3 minutes on a very fast machine).
 
 In addition, when I tried to produce a file with 120,000 records (split into 3 
 sheets), it bombed out with the out of memory error.  This makes sense after I saw 
 what the file size is with ony 30,000 records.  Arghhh!!!
 
 Next approach I am working on is to use the COM object and interface with Excel 
 automatically...
 

Have you tried using the Apache POI project's stuff, which is a Java
API to Microsoft file types? Check this blog out for Excel stuff. It's
really slick:

http://www.d-ross.org/index.cfm?objectid=9C65ED5A-508B-E116-6F4F7F38C6AE167C

Regards,
Dave.

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Re: Inexpensive Hosted Webstore?

2004-11-04 Thread Ray Champagne
I really hate them, but Yahoo! stores are probably the best free ones that 
I have run across.  I know that sounds like an oxymoron of sorts, but 
considering your requirements, I would say they are one of your best choices.

Ray

At 01:23 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
We have a client that wants to set up an online store to sell a handful of
products.  They can't spend much for software licensing, site development
or a merchant account.  They do already have the ability already to run
credit cards at their business.

Is there a decent, inexpensive means for them to get online without a
merchant account?  I'm not talking about something to install on their CF
web site, like CF Webstore or anything similar.   Something hosted
elsewhere, where they get a simple email notification of new sales placed
online, then they go to a secure web page and retrieve credit card
information.  It would need the usual capabilities of entering products,
uploading product photos, adding sales taxes and computing shipping
charges for a selection of shippers.

Thanks.




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Re: About Flex

2004-11-04 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:50:36 -0600, Hassan Arteaga Rodriguez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All:
 
 Where I can find documentation about Flex. Just for beginners. There is
 available some book about Flex 1.5 ?
 

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/
Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flex book
http://www.iterationtwo.com/blog/index.html

A 2 minute Google search would have turned all of these up.

Regards,
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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Scott Stroz
Count me in!!!


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:51:08 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on 
 using Mach-II sometime in December.  I wasn't too satified with the amount and 
 quality of documentation out there.
 
 I'm curious who is using Mach-II...
 
 Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.
 
 

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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Calvin Ward wrote:

While that may be true, it seems probable the the release of Blackstone will further 
create a gap between actual CFMX and BD
  

Of course, this is pure speculation.  Speculating here myself, because 
I'm not on the beta test, but I would not be surprised if MM shortened 
BDs list of enhancement by adding that functionality to Blackstone and 
the list of incompatibilities didn't really increase that much.

Plus how many people will actually upgrade to Blackstone?  Yeah there 
will be the die-hards that go with every upgrade and the luck ones who 
will be handed Blackstone on a plate, but currently I'm still on CF5.  
Clients dictate upgrades.  I personally can't justify the expense of 
upgrading to CFMX, as much as I'd like to, and most clients have no 
requirement for for some of the additional functionality provided by 
CFMX.  Again, as much as I'd like to look into building apps with the 
likes of Mach-II, I can't justify upgrading to CFMX purely for this reason.

I know someone who, until very recently, was still running cf4.5.2, 
because he had no requirement to upgrade and only upgraded recently, 
because he moved/upgraded his servers and felt that it was an 
appropriate time to upgrade CF too.

At the end of the day, it comes down to your requirements and the 
requirements of your clients. Personally, I don't use BD.  I have used 
BD in the past, back in the alpha testing days. It looked great and held 
a lot of promise back then, but wasn't production ready, so I had to go 
with MM CF.  Since then I've, unfortunately, never had the requirement 
to look into using it.  If and when the opportunity arises, then I will 
definately be looking at BD in detail as well as at MM CF Server.  If it 
meets the requirements of the project that is paying for it and is cost 
effective, then I will go with it.

What a developer should never do is chose not to use an alternate 
product, because it isn't the original.

hmm... sorry that turned into a bit of a rant  I'll go back to my 
dark corner now...

regards

Stephen
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Re: cfqueryparam oddity

2004-11-04 Thread Tony Weeg
regardless of the nda...

any idea whats up with this query param shite?

tw


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:26:08 +0100, Jochem van Dieten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Burns, John D wrote:
  Speaking of Blackstone, are NDAs out the window now because of MAX?
 
 I seriously doubt that. Previous NDA's from Macromedia never
 expired, but allowed you to talk about information that was
 public, i.e. also obtainable through other channels. Presuming
 Macromedia has not changed the text of the NDA, if Ben Forta says
 X about Blackstone, you are allowed to talk about X, but your NDA
 still applies to Y and Z.
 
 Presuming you are in the Blackstone beta: just take a few minutes
 to actually *read* the NDA you have agreed to. Understanding a
 simple legal document should not be out of reach for any native
 speaker who is willing to spend the effort.
 
 Jochem
 
 

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Re: cfqueryparam oddity

2004-11-04 Thread Tony Weeg
and to answer the question about the nda

even though the cd went out to all in their bag @ max, they all still
have to sign up for the beta, and accept the nda.

and that my friends is straight from a horses mouth!

:) tw


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:42:16 -0600, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 regardless of the nda...
 
 any idea whats up with this query param shite?
 
 tw
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:26:08 +0100, Jochem van Dieten
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Burns, John D wrote:
   Speaking of Blackstone, are NDAs out the window now because of MAX?
 
  I seriously doubt that. Previous NDA's from Macromedia never
  expired, but allowed you to talk about information that was
  public, i.e. also obtainable through other channels. Presuming
  Macromedia has not changed the text of the NDA, if Ben Forta says
  X about Blackstone, you are allowed to talk about X, but your NDA
  still applies to Y and Z.
 
  Presuming you are in the Blackstone beta: just take a few minutes
  to actually *read* the NDA you have agreed to. Understanding a
  simple legal document should not be out of reach for any native
  speaker who is willing to spend the effort.
 
  Jochem
 
  

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long running query and jrun throwup :(

2004-11-04 Thread Tony Weeg
anyone else out there have a situation
where you run a query against a ms sql server
database that might be in the middle of backing up
or some other job and the query times out, or just
doesnt respond and then the jrun just goes berzerk?

berzerk = thread count through the roof, and eventual cfmx server not
responding to any requests?

thanks!

-- 
tony

Tony Weeg

macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
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cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com

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Re: Split ouptut to MULTIPLIE sheets in Excel.

2004-11-04 Thread Jonathan Nickle
Dave, I assume from this that the site must be hosted on an Apache server??  Or is the 
Java in this case portable?

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Re: Split ouptut to MULTIPLIE sheets in Excel.

2004-11-04 Thread Barney Boisvert
It's a separate collection of Java classes for doing the manipulation,
totally independant of the Apache HTTP Server.  There is a lot of java
stuff that Apache deals with, from utility packages like POI or
Commons, to the Tomcat JSP/Servlet container, to Struts (a J2EE Web
app framework), the ant build tool (which is hella sweet), to
templating engines like Turbine.  There's a lot more that I've left
out

cheers,
barneyb

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:04:02 -0400, Jonathan Nickle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave, I assume from this that the site must be hosted on an Apache server??  Or is 
 the Java in this case portable?
 
 
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.barneyb.com/blog/

I currently have 0 GMail invites for the taking

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[Fwd: [CF-Dev] MX Europe 2005 Registration Open - Get your Early Bird tickets now!]

2004-11-04 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Forwarded from the UK Dev list.

---
Hi Everyone,

Registration for MX Europe 2005 is now open. 

http://www.mxeurope.org/go/registration

If you register before the 30 November 2004 you will be eligible for Early Bird 
pricing and will save £50 on the standard conference ticket price. Register today to 
ensure you do not miss out on this fantastic offer.

Regards

Niklas


About MX Europe 2005


MX Europe is a yearly European Macromedia Developer Conference organised and run by UK 
ColdFusion User Group.  For our third year, MX Europe 2005 will be held in London from 
the 31st January to the 2nd February 2005.

The conference is the ideal way to concentrate all the knowledge from the US and 
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The event features numerous workshops on Flash Design, ColdFusion Development, Server 
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In addition to in-depth technical and designer sessions, the MX Europe 2005 Conference 
also includes a Sponsor Exhibit area which is open from registration on Monday to 
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You will also have the opportunity to meet the European Macromedia team, speakers from 
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Re: Split ouptut to MULTIPLIE sheets in Excel.

2004-11-04 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:04:02 -0400, Jonathan Nickle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave, I assume from this that the site must be hosted on an Apache server??  Or is 
 the Java in this case portable?
 

Following on what Barney said, the Apache name is just the name of
the parent non-profit organization that supports various open-source
initiatives, the HTTP server being one of them. The POI project is
another on of these projects they support, completely independent of
the web server.

Regards,
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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Alexander Sherwood
At 01:39 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
Count me in!!!

We switched to Mach-IV.

It's like Mach-II, only twice as fast and a better, more robust plugin architecture.

It uses the better, more streamline XSLT2.0 W3C standard.

--
A



On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:51:08 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on 
 using Mach-II sometime in December.  I wasn't too satified with the amount and 
 quality of documentation out there.
 
 I'm curious who is using Mach-II...
 
 Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.
 



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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Yes, of course. But you should note that it's *because* of those variances
(the enhancements, not the limitations) that people are choosing BlueDragon.
Which only makes sense: if BlueDragon didn't do some things better than
CFMX, there wouldn't be any reason to use it.

Vince 

 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:50 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 I actually said variances not limitations.
 
 
 If you are developing products that are intended to be 
 deployed cross platform, then you have consider all variances.
 
 
 - Calvin
 -Original Message-
 From:  Vince Bonfanti
 Date:  11/4/04 6:46 am
 To:  CF-Talk
 Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML 
 Compatibility Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the 
 first 7 pages are title page, table of contents, intro, etc. 
 Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements 
 that BD 6.1 provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion 
 (such as CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, 
 inclusive (a total of
 7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document 
 describes BlueDragon enhancements.
 
 In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Vince Bonfanti
 New Atlanta Communications, LLC
 http://www.newatlanta.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
  
  Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does 
 not work in 
  the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you will want to 
  factor into your decision making.
  
  
  - Calvin
  
  -Original Message-
  From:  Ryan Jones
  Date:  11/4/04 2:17 am
  To:  CF-Talk
  Subj:  Re: Bluedragon Server
  
  What about Railo or IgniteFusion?  Does anyone know much 
 about these 
  two cfml engines?  Are they up to the task, or a step 
 behind CFMX and 
  Bluedragon?
  
  Railo: http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm
  IgniteFusion: http://www.ignitefusion.com/
  
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Perhaps. As I've stated before (in this forum, I think), there's really
nothing special or tricky in Blackstone that we shouldn't be able to
implement fairly quickly in BlueDragon. Blackstone is an incremental feature
release without fundamental architectural changes, such as CFCs or the
reimplementation in Java that we got in CFMX (Macromedia is even touting the
lack of architectural changes and incremental nature of Blackstone as a
feature, since it implies--correctly--stability of the release).

Based on information that's publicly available, we've already prototyped the
major Blackstone features in BlueDragon--such as CFDOCUMENT and the message
gateway. Which new features of Blackstone do you consider must have?

It's interesting, though, that Blackstone is managing to close the gap with
BlueDragon, adding some features that BlueDragon has had for more than two
years:

   - standard J2EE WAR/EAR deployment
   - support for WebSphere Network Deployment clusters
   - source-less precompiled CFML templates
   - serialization of CFCs
   - CFIMAGE tag

Vince 

 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:50 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 While that may be true, it seems probable the the release of 
 Blackstone will further create a gap between actual CFMX and BD
 
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  Vince Bonfanti
 Date:  11/4/04 6:49 am
 To:  CF-Talk
 Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 I should have said: in BlueDragon 6.2, the list of 
 incompatibilities is even shorter, but the list of 
 enhancements is longer.
 
 Vince
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:46 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
  
  Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML 
 Compatibility 
  Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the first 7 pages 
 are title 
  page, table of contents, intro, etc.
  Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements 
 that BD 6.1 
  provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion (such as 
 CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, 
  etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, inclusive (a total of
  7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document describes 
  BlueDragon enhancements.
  
  In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.
  
  Regards,
  
  Vince Bonfanti
  New Atlanta Communications, LLC
  http://www.newatlanta.com
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
   
   Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does
  not work in
   the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you will want to 
   factor into your decision making.
   
   
   - Calvin
   
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Kwang Suh
Is it the best a man can get? ;)

At 01:39 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
Count me in!!!

We switched to Mach-IV.

It's like Mach-II, only twice as fast and a better, more robust plugin architecture.

It uses the better, more streamline XSLT2.0 W3C standard.

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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Kwang Suh
Okay guys, looks like I'm going to start writing that tutorial.

 If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, detailed 
 tutorial on using Mach-II sometime in December.  I wasn't too satified 
 with the amount and quality of documentation out there.
 
 I'm curious who is using Mach-II...
 
 Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.

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line breaks in cfmail

2004-11-04 Thread Matthew Smith
Without using html(br), how do you get a line break in a cfmail?  I
thought just having the code set up with breaks would carry over to the
mail?

 

Bill to:

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.CardHoldersName#

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Address1#

cfif len(trim(qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Address2))

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Address2#

/cfif

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.City#,

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.StateOrProvince#
#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.PostalCode#

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Country#

 

This prints on one line..

 

Matthew P. F. Smith

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 





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RE: line breaks in cfmail

2004-11-04 Thread John Stanley
#Chr(13)#

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: line breaks in cfmail


Without using html(br), how do you get a line break in a cfmail?  I
thought just having the code set up with breaks would carry over to the
mail?

 

Bill to:

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.CardHoldersName#

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Address1#

cfif len(trim(qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Address2))

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Address2#

/cfif

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.City#,

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.StateOrProvince#
#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.PostalCode#

#qry_ordersBillingMethodGet.Country#

 

This prints on one line..

 

Matthew P. F. Smith

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 







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RE: Stored Proc Help Needed Please

2004-11-04 Thread Adrian Lynch
I think the problem is with the context of the executed dynamic sql string.

If you try something like this...

DECLARE
@max INT,
@tableName VARCHAR(20),
@sql VARCHAR(100)

SET @tableName = 'tblQuestions'

SET @sql = 'DECLARE @max INT SELECT @max = MAX(QuestionID) FROM ' +
@tableName

EXEC(@sql)

... you'll see there's no error about @max not being declared because it is
declared within the context of the SELECT @max statement. I think!

This doesn't give you the result you're after and I can't think of a way
around this, there might be a way to get the result from one context to the
current on but I'm not sure how.

Let us know if you figure out a way.

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 November 2004 22:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Stored Proc Help Needed Please


Ok I am buildin on an issue I solved a few weeks back about dynamically
generating the table name varible and using it in the FROM clause of an SQL
statement. I am now trying to use this method but also set a varible from
the select statement. I keep getting an error telling me I have to declare
the varible I am trying to set (@MaxLoopCounter) but it is in my declaration
statement. Can eanyone assist me with this or give me another approach?
Here is the stored proc. SQL2000.


CREATE PROCEDURE Validate_Member_Counts
@month1 varchar(10),
@month2 varchar(10)

AS
DECLARE
@pid1   int,
@pid2   int,
@expdate1   datetime,
@joindate1  datetime,
@expdate2   datetime,
@joindate2  datetime,
@status varchar(10),
@counttype  varchar(15),
@accttype   varchar(1),
@loopid int,
@MaxLoopCounter  int,
@SQLvarchar(8000),
@TABLE_NAME1sysname,
@TABLE_NAME2sysname

--Create a holding table for results
IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT * FROM dbo.sysobjects WHERE id =
object_id(N'[dbo].[DAILY_MBR_COUNTS]') AND OBJECTPROPERTY(id, N'IsTable') =
1)
CREATE TABLE [DAILY_MBR_COUNTS]
(
personidint,
accttypevarchar(1),
status  varchar(10),
joindatedatetime,
expdate datetime,
counttype   varchar(15)
)
ELSE
TRUNCATE TABLE DAILY_MBR_COUNTS;
SELECT @TABLE_NAME1 = @month1+'persondem';
SELECT @TABLE_NAME2 = @month2+'persondem'
SET @loopid = 1;
SELECT @SQL =' SELECT @MaxLoopCounter = Max(Loopid) FROM ' + @TABLE_NAME1
EXEC(@SQL)
WHILE @LoopId = @MaxLoopCounter
BEGIN
-- Do your magic here
SELECT  @SQL ='@pid1 = personid, @expdate1,@joindate1 FROM ' + @TABLE_NAME1
+'WHERE loopid = @loopid';
EXEC(@SQL)
SET  @LoopId = @LoopID + 1
END
GO


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Re: Inexpensive Hosted Webstore?

2004-11-04 Thread Donna French
Well, it's only the cart side of things but I use it for some
customers that want to build their own pages, and sometimes build a
catalog system with admin  integrate with Mal's E (www.mals-e.com).

HTH,
Donna


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:25:51 -0500, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I really hate them, but Yahoo! stores are probably the best free ones that
 I have run across.  I know that sounds like an oxymoron of sorts, but
 considering your requirements, I would say they are one of your best choices.
 
 Ray
 
 
 
 At 01:23 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
 We have a client that wants to set up an online store to sell a handful of
 products.  They can't spend much for software licensing, site development
 or a merchant account.  They do already have the ability already to run
 credit cards at their business.
 
 Is there a decent, inexpensive means for them to get online without a
 merchant account?  I'm not talking about something to install on their CF
 web site, like CF Webstore or anything similar.   Something hosted
 elsewhere, where they get a simple email notification of new sales placed
 online, then they go to a secure web page and retrieve credit card
 information.  It would need the usual capabilities of entering products,
 uploading product photos, adding sales taxes and computing shipping
 charges for a selection of shippers.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 

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CF and Word 2003

2004-11-04 Thread Jason Reichenbach
Has anyone used CF5 to access MS Word 2003 objects? All was fine with
2000, but now none of the properties seem to work.  
 
The following example results in the Range, Close and Count
properties/methods not being found:  

CFOBJECT TYPE=COM 
NAME=objWord
CLASS=Word.Application 
ACTION=Create 

CFSCRIPT
 /* This returns the 'Documents' collection of the Word object */ objDoc
= objWord.Documents; /* Specify a document to open */ newDoc =
objDoc.open(c:\jellystone\tempdir\bs7.txt);
actDoc = newDoc.application;
objActDoc = actDoc.ActiveDocument;
objWords = objActDoc.Paragraphs;
docRange = objWords.Range();
docRangeText = docRange.Text;
/* Close Object actDoc.Close();*/
/* Quit Word */
objWord.Quit();
writeoutput(Here we are:objWords.count); /CFSCRIPT  

Any Help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Jay Reichenbach
Senior Product Developer
OpenHire, Inc.






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CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread David K
When sending a newsletter email to a group of 1200 recipients which is the better 
approach to using CFMAIL and WHY?

(Note: Query to get the recipients' email addresses is named 'GetRecipients')

1) Send a single email with the entire recipient list in the CFMAIL 'BCC' attribute 
using ValueList(GetRecipients.User_Email).

OR

2) Loop over the 'GetRecipients' query and send an email for each recipient with the 
recipient email address in the CFMAIL 'TO' attribute.

OR 

???



TIA

David K

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RE: About Flex

2004-11-04 Thread Hassan Arteaga Rodriguez
Thanks Dave !!!
I didn't search directly in Google, but yes in Amazon and Oreilly 


__
M.Sc. Hassan Arteaga Rodríguez
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
IT Specialist
DIGI Grupo de Desarrollo. COPEXTEL, S.A.
 
Este email y sus adjuntos está dirigido solamente a los destinatarios
consignados en el mismo y debe ser considerado confidencial. Si Ud. no es el
destinatario consignado o la persona responsable de entregar/enviar el
presente, no podrá copiarlo o entregarlo/enviarlo a ninguna otra persona ni
utilizar el mismo en forma no autorizada. Dichas acciones están prohibidas y
pueden ser consideradas ilegales. Si Ud. recibiese este email por error, por
favor comuníquelo de inmediato al emisor del mismo. 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: About Flex


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:50:36 -0600, Hassan Arteaga Rodriguez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All:
 
 Where I can find documentation about Flex. Just for beginners. There 
 is available some book about Flex 1.5 ?
 

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/
Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flex book
http://www.iterationtwo.com/blog/index.html

A 2 minute Google search would have turned all of these up.

Regards,
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Re: Split ouptut to MULTIPLIE sheets in Excel.

2004-11-04 Thread Jonathan Nickle
Thank you both for the replies... I think this may be the ticket for this problem.  I 
have downloaded the files and am working on comping the java files required.  Thanks 
again and I will post again if other issues come up.

I sincerely appreciate your time and advise!!

-Jon

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Re: output listing problem

2004-11-04 Thread DRE
Nobody has any thoughts?


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:14:30 -0800, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a tricky little issue. Maybe someone can help me.
 
 I have a query that returns a grouped output.  There are items that
 have mutiple dates and those dates have to be in order.
 
 Kinda like this.
 
 item z datea dateb datec
 item r datee datef dateg
 
 so my query is like
 select item, date
 where itemid = date_itemid
 order by itemid, date
 
 And the output looks like this
 cfoutput query=me group=item
   #item#
   cfoutput
  #date#
   /cfoutput
 /cfoutput
 
 So, in order to keep the dates outputing right, I have to order them
 after the item in the sql order by.
 
 Now my problem is this: I have to have the item with the earliest date
 first.  However, to keep the cfoutput group working, I have to have
 the date by as secondary to the item.
 
 I'm thinking I can do it by dumping it into an array of structures and
 then sorting the array of structures or something like that or perhaps
 writing a sp.  This page will be hit a lot so I'm trying to keep it
 simple and fast.
 
 cfmx and sql2000.
 
 Any ideas???
 
 Thanks in advance.
 DRE
 
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 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com
 


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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Matt Robertson
#2.  Choice #1 is like a matador waving a red cape in front of an
arena full of bulls, where your mail server is the matador and the
bulls are all of the other mail servers you are sending to.

Less colorfully:  Dumping everyone into a bcc or cc field is the sign
of a spammer and will attract a lot of unwanted attention to your
mailing.  Worse still is the fact that you do not have an unlimited
number of characters in your TO; field.  I forget exactly what but its
nowhere near what you'd need to send 1300 mailings, and figuring out
the limit and parsing out your emails in batches that will fit into
the limit seems like a whole lot of trouble to go to considering what
will happen as a result (the bulls again).

If you run into issues with frequency filters on your targets check
this out.  For a small number like 1300 mailers its perfect;
especially on a shared server where the resources available to all
the, er, cattle packed onto them may be under stress.

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMAIL.cfm

HtH,
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MSB Designs, Inc.
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Re: output listing problem

2004-11-04 Thread Jeff Congdon
make your query like this:

SELECT item, date, MIN(date) AS orderDate
FROM yourtable
WHERE itemID = date_itemID
GROUP BY item, date
ORDER BY orderDate DESC, item, date

-jc

DRE wrote:

Nobody has any thoughts?


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:14:30 -0800, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi,
I have a tricky little issue. Maybe someone can help me.

I have a query that returns a grouped output.  There are items that
have mutiple dates and those dates have to be in order.

Kinda like this.

item z datea dateb datec
item r datee datef dateg

so my query is like
select item, date
where itemid = date_itemid
order by itemid, date

And the output looks like this
cfoutput query=me group=item
  #item#
  cfoutput
 #date#
  /cfoutput
/cfoutput

So, in order to keep the dates outputing right, I have to order them
after the item in the sql order by.

Now my problem is this: I have to have the item with the earliest date
first.  However, to keep the cfoutput group working, I have to have
the date by as secondary to the item.

I'm thinking I can do it by dumping it into an array of structures and
then sorting the array of structures or something like that or perhaps
writing a sp.  This page will be hit a lot so I'm trying to keep it
simple and fast.

cfmx and sql2000.

Any ideas???

Thanks in advance.
DRE

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www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com





  




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Re: output listing problem

2004-11-04 Thread Jeff Congdon
sorry that should probably be ASC, not DESC, if you want it to go low-high

-jc

Jeff Congdon wrote:

make your query like this:

SELECT item, date, MIN(date) AS orderDate
FROM yourtable
WHERE itemID = date_itemID
GROUP BY item, date
ORDER BY orderDate DESC, item, date

-jc

DRE wrote:

  

Nobody has any thoughts?


On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:14:30 -0800, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 



Hi,
I have a tricky little issue. Maybe someone can help me.

I have a query that returns a grouped output.  There are items that
have mutiple dates and those dates have to be in order.

Kinda like this.

item z datea dateb datec
item r datee datef dateg

so my query is like
select item, date
where itemid = date_itemid
order by itemid, date

And the output looks like this
cfoutput query=me group=item
 #item#
 cfoutput
#date#
 /cfoutput
/cfoutput

So, in order to keep the dates outputing right, I have to order them
after the item in the sql order by.

Now my problem is this: I have to have the item with the earliest date
first.  However, to keep the cfoutput group working, I have to have
the date by as secondary to the item.

I'm thinking I can do it by dumping it into an array of structures and
then sorting the array of structures or something like that or perhaps
writing a sp.  This page will be hit a lot so I'm trying to keep it
simple and fast.

cfmx and sql2000.

Any ideas???

Thanks in advance.
DRE

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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
Please, please please send them separately.

I think that each of the recipients of a cf_mail BCC message sees all the other BCC 
recipients, don't they? Even though the original recipient does not see them.

I would not want my email address going to the other 1200 people on the list. Nor 
necessarily the fact that I subscribe.

Jerry Johnson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/04/04 02:17PM 
When sending a newsletter email to a group of 1200 recipients which is the better 
approach to using CFMAIL and WHY?

(Note: Query to get the recipients' email addresses is named 'GetRecipients')

1) Send a single email with the entire recipient list in the CFMAIL 'BCC' attribute 
using ValueList(GetRecipients.User_Email).

OR

2) Loop over the 'GetRecipients' query and send an email for each recipient with the 
recipient email address in the CFMAIL 'TO' attribute.



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Re: output listing problem

2004-11-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
It's 16:00 here in Boston, and there are not many thoughts left at all.

I didn't quite understand what you are trying to do. Nor how it is not working now.

From a general standpoint, there is seldom things you can do in local structures that 
SQL can't do for you better and faster.

(The cf-SQL list is pretty good for this kind of help).

Jerry Johnson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/04/04 03:56PM 
Nobody has any thoughts?



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Re: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Calvin Ward
Well, my speculation is based on what has been made public on MM's site and at MAX, 
the the stated focus of Blackstone appears to be feature set, I'd say that BD will be 
chasing CF7 much like they are over a year behind CF6.1.


My commentary on the differences is in part related to the current  frustration we all 
deal with in CSS implementation across browsers. It is true that BD has added some 
enhancements, but it also appears to be true that the don't support existing 
capabilities or consistently support certain functionality.


How important that is will depend on each developer's needs, and code portability 
between the two different servers looks likely to become less simple as each company 
continues to go forward.


Just as choosing between technologies such as J2EE, .NET and CFMX is a valid choice, 
so might be considering BD.


However, as the two languages continue to grow apart, they will become more distinct. 
For better or worse, BD is not exactly CF.


-Calvin




-Original Message-
From:  Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Date:  11/4/04 12:36 pm
To:  CF-Talk 
Subj:  Re: Bluedragon Server

Calvin Ward wrote:

While that may be true, it seems probable the the release of Blackstone will further 
create a gap between actual CFMX and BD
  

Of course, this is pure speculation.  Speculating here myself, because 
I'm not on the beta test, but I would not be surprised if MM shortened 
BDs list of enhancement by adding that functionality to Blackstone and 
the list of incompatibilities didn't really increase that much.

Plus how many people will actually upgrade to Blackstone?  Yeah there 
will be the die-hards that go with every upgrade and the luck ones who 
will be handed Blackstone on a plate, but currently I'm still on CF5.  
Clients dictate upgrades.  I personally can't justify the expense of 
upgrading to CFMX, as much as I'd like to, and most clients have no 
requirement for for some of the additional functionality provided by 
CFMX.  Again, as much as I'd like to look into building apps with the 
likes of Mach-II, I can't justify upgrading to CFMX purely for this reason.

I know someone who, until very recently, was still running cf4.5.2, 
because he had no requirement to upgrade and only upgraded recently, 
because he moved/upgraded his servers and felt that it was an 
appropriate time to upgrade CF too.

At the end of the day, it comes down to your requirements and the 
requirements of your clients. Personally, I don't use BD.  I have used 
BD in the past, back in the alpha testing days. It looked great and held 
a lot of promise back then, but wasn't production ready, so I had to go 
with MM CF.  Since then I've, unfortunately, never had the requirement 
to look into using it.  If and when the opportunity arises, then I will 
definately be looking at BD in detail as well as at MM CF Server.  If it 
meets the requirements of the project that is paying for it and is cost 
effective, then I will go with it.

What a developer should never do is chose not to use an alternate 
product, because it isn't the original.

hmm... sorry that turned into a bit of a rant  I'll go back to my 
dark corner now...

regards

Stephen
PS.  http://www.mxeurope.org/  - Registration is open!! 
The list of speakers and topics looks to be excellent.




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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Calvin Ward
I don't think that's entirely accurate. For example, isn't one of those differences is 
lack of support for some features in cfcollection/cfsearch?


-Calvin 

-Original Message-
From:  Vince Bonfanti
Date:  11/4/04 1:29 pm
To:  CF-Talk 
Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server

Yes, of course. But you should note that it's *because* of those variances
(the enhancements, not the limitations) that people are choosing BlueDragon.
Which only makes sense: if BlueDragon didn't do some things better than
CFMX, there wouldn't be any reason to use it.

Vince 

 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:50 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 I actually said variances not limitations.
 
 
 If you are developing products that are intended to be 
 deployed cross platform, then you have consider all variances.
 
 
 - Calvin
 -Original Message-
 From:  Vince Bonfanti
 Date:  11/4/04 6:46 am
 To:  CF-Talk
 Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML 
 Compatibility Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the 
 first 7 pages are title page, table of contents, intro, etc. 
 Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements 
 that BD 6.1 provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion 
 (such as CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, 
 inclusive (a total of
 7 pages), describe BD limitations, most of the document 
 describes BlueDragon enhancements.
 
 In BlueDragon 6.2, the list of incompatibilities is even shorter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Vince Bonfanti
 New Atlanta Communications, LLC
 http://www.newatlanta.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:29 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Bluedragon Server
  
  Keep in mind. There is 44 pages of variance where BD does 
 not work in 
  the same fashion as the actual CFMX product that you will want to 
  factor into your decision making.
  
  
  - Calvin
  
  -Original Message-
  From:  Ryan Jones
  Date:  11/4/04 2:17 am
  To:  CF-Talk

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RE: Bluedragon Server

2004-11-04 Thread Calvin Ward
I didn't know cfimage was in Blackstone, I don't any specific feature that I'm 
refering to, however how about the flash related stuff?

-Calvin

-Original Message-
From:  Vince Bonfanti
Date:  11/4/04 1:30 pm
To:  CF-Talk 
Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server

Perhaps. As I've stated before (in this forum, I think), there's really
nothing special or tricky in Blackstone that we shouldn't be able to
implement fairly quickly in BlueDragon. Blackstone is an incremental feature
release without fundamental architectural changes, such as CFCs or the
reimplementation in Java that we got in CFMX (Macromedia is even touting the
lack of architectural changes and incremental nature of Blackstone as a
feature, since it implies--correctly--stability of the release).

Based on information that's publicly available, we've already prototyped the
major Blackstone features in BlueDragon--such as CFDOCUMENT and the message
gateway. Which new features of Blackstone do you consider must have?

It's interesting, though, that Blackstone is managing to close the gap with
BlueDragon, adding some features that BlueDragon has had for more than two
years:

   - standard J2EE WAR/EAR deployment
   - support for WebSphere Network Deployment clusters
   - source-less precompiled CFML templates
   - serialization of CFCs
   - CFIMAGE tag

Vince 

 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:50 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 While that may be true, it seems probable the the release of 
 Blackstone will further create a gap between actual CFMX and BD
 
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  Vince Bonfanti
 Date:  11/4/04 6:49 am
 To:  CF-Talk
 Subj:  RE: Bluedragon Server
 
 I should have said: in BlueDragon 6.2, the list of 
 incompatibilities is even shorter, but the list of 
 enhancements is longer.
 
 Vince
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:46 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Bluedragon Server
  
  Actually, that's not quite true. The BlueDragon 6.1 CFML 
 Compatibility 
  Guide is indeed 44 pages (PDF). However, the first 7 pages 
 are title 
  page, table of contents, intro, etc.
  Then everything from page 15 to 44 describes enhancements 
 that BD 6.1 
  provides that aren't supported by ColdFusion (such as 
 CFIMAGE, CFIMAP, 
  etc.). So only pages 8 through 14, inclusive (a total of

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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread David K
Thanks for your (witty) reply, Matt.
Makes sense.

Worse still is the fact that you do not have an unlimited number of characters in 
your TO; field. 

First I've heard of that one... I.m assuming there's a similar limit on the CC  BCC 
fields as well (?). Where might I get the definitive number on that?

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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread David K
Thanks for your reply, Jerry.

Actually, that's the whole point of the BCC field... no-one sees those addresses. (BCC 
stands for Blind Carbon Copy) (CC stands for Carbon Copy).

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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Donna French
I've used the code to slow down CF email sending and it works great.

~ Donna


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:26:34 -0400, David K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your (witty) reply, Matt.
 Makes sense.
 
 Worse still is the fact that you do not have an unlimited number of characters in 
 your TO; field.
 
 First I've heard of that one... I.m assuming there's a similar limit on the CC  BCC 
 fields as well (?). Where might I get the definitive number on that?
 
 David K.
 
 
 

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RE: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
I wrote a mailer app which uses a DB to create a Mailer, recipient list,
and cfschedule to send X individual msgs from recipient list, and delete
members from recipient list.

I usually batch 300 msgs every 7 minutes or so, getting out my 50K
mailer in about 12 hours.

If there's any interest, I can try and clean up the code and open source
it...

I also wrote a java/jdbc app to do it outside CF which allows me to run
it on a separate server.

-dov
-Original Message-
From: Donna French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

I've used the code to slow down CF email sending and it works great.

~ Donna


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:26:34 -0400, David K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for your (witty) reply, Matt.
 Makes sense.
 
 Worse still is the fact that you do not have an unlimited number of
characters in your TO; field.
 
 First I've heard of that one... I.m assuming there's a similar limit
on the CC  BCC fields as well (?). Where might I get the definitive
number on that?
 
 David K.
 
 
 



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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Ken Ketsdever
It seems as though I've heard that cfmail can be used with a list much like with the 
query attribute.  Anyone have any details on this?

I have 20,000 addresses in db1 and another 1,000 in db2.  The two dbs will never be 
merged. But I must send the same e-mail out to everyone.   

I can send using dbquery1 then with dbquery2 or I can query both, save to a list and 
combine them into a single list.  
 

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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
I know that the To: and CC: recipients don't see the BCC: recipients.

But I was not (am not) sure that 2 BCC: recipients don't see each other.

I tried a test here on Groupwise and could see all the BCC: recipients in the received 
email. I don't know if this behavior is unique to Groupwise, though.

Jerry Johnson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/04/04 03:28PM 
Thanks for your reply, Jerry.

Actually, that's the whole point of the BCC field... no-one sees those addresses. (BCC 
stands for Blind Carbon Copy) (CC stands for Carbon Copy).



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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Matt Robertson
 First I've heard of that one... I.m assuming there's a similar limit on the CC  BCC 
 fields 
as well (?). Where might I get the definitive number on that?

My assumption would be RFC 2822, but I didn't see what I would call a
smoking gun.  There is a 998 char line length limit which may be the
number, but in reading thru it I could interpret that to only mean 998
chars applies to elements of the message body.

I have a heck of a time reading those.  If Jochem is around he'd know
immediately one way or the other.

The limitation *may* be in cfmail itself.  Haven't looked that up yet.

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Re: Mach II

2004-11-04 Thread Dan O'Keefe
Mach-IV?

Dan


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:23:40 -0500, Alexander Sherwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 01:39 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
 Count me in!!!
 
 We switched to Mach-IV.
 
 It's like Mach-II, only twice as fast and a better, more robust plugin architecture.
 
 It uses the better, more streamline XSLT2.0 W3C standard.
 
 --
 A
 
 On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:51:08 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If people really want it,  I'm going to write a very long, detailed tutorial on 
  using Mach-II sometime in December.  I wasn't too satified with the amount and 
  quality of documentation out there.
 
  I'm curious who is using Mach-II...
  
  Documentation and examples seems to be very minimal.
 
 
 
 

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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Matt Robertson
Dov Katz wrote:
I wrote a mailer app which uses a DB to create a Mailer, recipient list,
and cfschedule to send X individual msgs from recipient list, and delete
members from recipient list.

I must be some kind of drooling idiot.  The revised version of the
trickler I posted does most of that, but I never thought to run a
scheduled task at a close interval and just let it go; waiting for
mail to show up so it can trickle it out.  That eliminates completely
the html component of the trickling thing, which from a systems
standpoint is just a mess.

Could build that so it runs server-wide in a snap.  Whatever shows up
in the 'queue table' gets sent; regardless of what task or even what
domain it originated, since the table data can hold sender, mail
server etc.

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RE: Application framework - examples

2004-11-04 Thread Jason L. West, Sr.
My apologies BarneyB.  After further investigation this is a quote from the
following URL: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/go/spectra

Well the Farcry fourQ COAPI was originally born of a need to move away from
Spectra to a purely CFMX code base.  fourQ effectively represents a COAPI
that functions in a similar vein to the way Spectra operated.  Obviously
that is where the comparison ends but nevertheless we have a bunch of code
that Spectra hacks might find useful.  In any event, these Spectra snippets
may keep you occupied until you can build up the courage to migrate the
Spectra objectstores to fourQ!

It has been a while since I looked into this frame work and I now stand
corrected.  Although, if you wanted to use the open source of Spectra you
can download it from here and hack away. :-)

http://spectrasource.macromedia.com

Thanks,
 
Jason L. West, Sr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Application framework - examples

Farcry isn't Spectra, and has been around a lot longer than since MM
released the Spectra source.  It happens to share a lot of
architectual similarities, but is completely separate.

cheers,
barneyb

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:46:43 -0500, Jason L. West, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Farcry (http://farcry.daemon.com.au) is a good one to use for out of the
box
 implementation of a website. It was originally Spectra before it
Macromedia
 released the source code and made it open source.
 
 If this is the avenue your wanting to go down you might also consider
 CF_Nuke (http://www.mycfnuke.com).  This is the cfml version of phpnuke
 which is also a community supported CMS application.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jason L. West, Sr.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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I currently have 0 GMail invites for the taking



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RE: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
That's what I have, but I only use it for my hobby site (has between
50k-100k users) 

The java app is also nice, since it lets me run it on extra machines I
have at my disposal, not to kill my cf server which already gets
hammered by this site w 600k this daily.

I also have a template table which lets me surround the mailers with
custom set of footer/header info for subscription info, etc...




-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 5:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

Dov Katz wrote:
I wrote a mailer app which uses a DB to create a Mailer, recipient 
list, and cfschedule to send X individual msgs from recipient list, and

delete members from recipient list.

I must be some kind of drooling idiot.  The revised version of the
trickler I posted does most of that, but I never thought to run a
scheduled task at a close interval and just let it go; waiting for mail
to show up so it can trickle it out.  That eliminates completely the
html component of the trickling thing, which from a systems standpoint
is just a mess.

Could build that so it runs server-wide in a snap.  Whatever shows up in
the 'queue table' gets sent; regardless of what task or even what domain
it originated, since the table data can hold sender, mail server etc.

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Re: long running query and jrun throwup :(

2004-11-04 Thread Don
It seems to be an interesting situation.  I'm thinking loud here, in addition to 
backup, for performing other heavy duty db job as well,
another option might be:
1) schedule the backup or other similar db job;
2) disable ALL web app services for the interval (done via server admin? global 
approach)

Maybe there's other better alternatives, I can't think at the moment.

Don 

anyone else out there have a situation
where you run a query against a ms sql server
database that might be in the middle of backing up
or some other job and the query times out, or just
doesnt respond and then the jrun just goes berzerk?

berzerk = thread count through the roof, and eventual cfmx server not
responding to any requests?

thanks!

-- 
tony

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email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
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cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com

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Re: CFMAIL and Bulk Email Strategies

2004-11-04 Thread Howie Hamlin
Yes, there is a limit to the number of characters on a line if an email (1000 
characters including the CRLF so your 998 below is correct).  As for cc and bcc:

A cc header is virtually unlimited.  Each recipient can be on a new line as long as 
the first character of the new line is a space or a tab.  For example:

CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and, so on.

A bcc is entirely different.  A bcc will not appear in the message headers at all so 
there is no limit as far as creating an email.

Where the to, cc and bcc do come into play is the total number of recipients 
accepted by the email server for a single email.  Most servers have a setting to limit 
this but it all depends on how the server is set up.

HTH,

-- 
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--- On Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:49 PM, Matt Robertson scribed: ---

 First I've heard of that one... I.m assuming there's a similar limit
 on the CC  BCC fields as well (?). Where might I get the definitive
 number on that? 
 
 My assumption would be RFC 2822, but I didn't see what I would call a
 smoking gun.  There is a 998 char line length limit which may be the
 number, but in reading thru it I could interpret that to only mean 998
 chars applies to elements of the message body.
 
 I have a heck of a time reading those.  If Jochem is around he'd know
 immediately one way or the other.
 
 The limitation *may* be in cfmail itself.  Haven't looked that up yet.

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