RE: Regex Help.

2005-01-11 Thread Pascal Peters
^\d*(\.\d{1,2})?$

This should do it if you allow an empty string to be validated as a
number. If you don't allow empty strings, just test that the length is
greater than zero. This would be easier than writing the regexp to test
for that too.

Pascal

 -Original Message-
 From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10 January 2005 20:43
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Regex Help.
 
 Hi All,
 
 Need some help with a regex.  What I'm trying to do is validate and
 input in javascript.
 
 The users are allowed to input a number.
 
 It can be in the following formats:
 9
 9.9
 9.99
 .99
 .9
 
 (9 used inplace of any digit.)
 
 I tried using \b[0-9.]+  and I've tried \b[\d]*([.]?[\d]{0,2})? and
I've
 tried  ([\d]*([.][\d]{1,2})?){1} but I can't seem to get the response
 that I want.
 
 The user can still input numbers such as 1.25.25 and it will pass the
 regex test.
 
 To be more specific in what I'm looking for, the users are putting in
 hours and partial hours.
 There can be any amount of hours, but partial hours are limited to .0,
 .00,.25, .5, .50, .75 or no decimal part whatsoever. (I've been trying
 to do the .25, .5, etc in another part of the javascript, but if I can
 do it in the regex even better.)
 
 Anybody got any ideas.
 
 Thanks
 Steve
 
 
 
 

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Re: SQL Server on Windows XP

2005-01-11 Thread John Beynon
yeah, SQL 2005 express is going to be worth waiting for.

You're going to be allowed to use the FREE version in production systems

jb


On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:40:25 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I remember some discussions of SQL Server (Server instance)
  being installed on Windows XP for development purposes.  Is
  this only available using SQL Server Developers Edition?
 
 Yes, I believe so.
 
  If so, is that something that's included with an MSDN
  subscription or anything like that or can you only get it by
  purchasing at microsoft.com for $49.95?
 
 If you have MSDN, it's in there along with Enterprise and Standard (on the
 same CD, I think). Otherwise, you can purchase it separately.
 
  We have a site we need to demo on a military base and the
  portion we're going to is locked down and we can't get internet
  access to demo it from our server here so we're planning to
  install everything we need on a laptop so we can show it from 
  there. Any advice that anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.
 
 You might consider installing a server operating system on a laptop, if you
 plan to do a lot of these sorts of demos. I've run Windows 2000 Server and
 Windows Server 2003 for quite some time on laptops.
 
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Re: DNS caching in CF

2005-01-11 Thread John Beynon
just restarting CFMX should fix the problem

jb.


On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:49:47 +0800, James Holmes
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 Thanks Sean, this will be the problem. I'll see if we can do some damage on
 dev with the fixes provided in the blog entry...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, 10 January 2005 1:32
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: DNS caching in CF
 
 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:14:16 +0800, James Holmes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We made DNS changes two weeks ago for one of our webservers. When we
  attempt to connect to this server via CFHTTP, on any of our three CF
  servers, they all seem to be connecting to the old IP.
 
 It's a feature of the underlying Java system. See Damon Cooper's blog
 (which refers to Tom Jordahl's blog):
 
 http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=B322459B-D872-
 DC1E-6F2424DDC66215E6
 
 

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RE: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Tim Blair
 Treat it as two lists. The first using Chr(13) or Chr(10) as 
 a delimiter, the second using ,:

The only problem you'll get with that is if the CSV contains a record
like the following (which is perfectly valid):

1,Banana,Long and yellow, with a slight bend

As CF list functions would see it, there are 4 list items; in CSV terms,
there are actually only three.

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2005-01-11 Thread dave
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Re: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 10 Jan 2005 17:46 pm, Dave Watts wrote:
 How exactly is WebDAV any more or less secure than RDS? Both can be
 protected with SSL. Both let you manipulate the filesystem through HTTP
 requests.

Unless anything has changed, RDS exposes everything to everyone, with full 
permissions.
WebDAV doesn't.

Just of the top of my head, and yes, I wouldn't want anything except CVS 
updating our CF codebase :-)

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Re: How to add images to my db the *right* way?

2005-01-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
I have it all worked out now. Thanks Joe!

I schema's like you said which will work ok, but she said she might want up to 
three images per item. No biggie, I'll just revers the relationship and drop 
avcolorID into tblimages via FK. It's an auto num field so I'll just have to 
retrieve it for the insert. 

Thanks,
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sourcesafe environment setup

2005-01-11 Thread John Beynon
Hi there,
I'm trying to get my head round a decent sourcesafe environment setup.
I have developers using DWMX who will (i guess) have a local folder
setup for checking out files from the repository for editing - that
bit i'm ok with.

How do folk get stuff from SS onto a DEV server? I'm thinking i would
have to checkout the entire project from sourcesafe to a local folder
and then FTP it up to a DEV server and use a similar techique for
getting stuff onto the LIVE server from the repo...

how do others handle it?

thanks,

jb.

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RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread Calvin Ward
Yea, I wish that sandbox could be used in conjunction with RDS... didn't it
used to?

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

Agreed. We don't let anyone touch the production boxes at all. They get
synced by an admin from test.

One thing RDS does that WebDav doesn't (afaik) is expose every datasource on
the box to every user, regardless of sandboxing. That's why RDS is disabled
on all of our shared boxes (dev, test and prod).

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

 I didn't think that RDS was for production systems?

It isn't. Neither is WebDAV, in my opinion. I'm reluctant to allow people to
edit files via HTTP on production systems in general.




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RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread James Holmes
Yes, as per my poor recollection, in CF 5 the sitemider security stuff
allowed multiple RDS passwords to tie into separate sandboxes. The whole
thing was rather complicated though.

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Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

Yea, I wish that sandbox could be used in conjunction with RDS... didn't it
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divide and conquer (how to deploy cf, db, ftp, iis, etc over 2 boxes)

2005-01-11 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
Assuming you have the following to run:
 
MSSQL2k,
LiveStats, 
IIS, 
CFMX6.1 (maybe eventually  7) , 
IMail (or some other mail server with POP, SMTP and webmail access) 
FTP services.
 
And you have 2 identical adjacent machines each with:
 
Dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 
4 GB RAM, 
3x73GB SCSI 10K rpm disks, in RAID (5?) array
Win2k server OS
 
The machines each have a dedicated NIC for talking to each other, and
then a separate public NIC card 
 
Here's what I was thinking:
 
Box 1)  CF, Backup MSSQL (via mssql automatic replication), and IIS just
for CFM pages at www.domain.com, and backup SMTP
Box 2)  primary MSSQL,  IIS for images/static at img.domain.com  , and
primary SMTP server
 
Boxes would have shared drive so Box 1 can upload static images to
Box2...   Box 2 would run a backup instance of CF, and have a copy of
the code in case it needs to be activated.  Static images which have
changed would be copied from Box 2 to Box 1 every X hours.
 
I was thinking of having IIS on img.domain.com redirect empty requests
to the real www.domain.com and set up domain.com to have DNS of IP1,
IP2, and img.domain.com = IP2, IP1
 
What would you do, and is this overengineering?   What would you do if
one box goes down? 

 
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RE: divide and conquer (how to deploy cf, db, ftp, iis, etc over 2 boxes)

2005-01-11 Thread Craig Dudley
Since livestats can be configured to use your MSSQL box, I'd stick those
on the same machine from an operational point of view anyway, but this
does mean your database box will need to be web accessible so people can
view their stats. It usually preferable (for us anyway) that the
database box is not accessible from the internet for anythgin but
management.

Everything else I'd put on the other machine. Personally I wouldn't do
any backup SQL replication with only 2 boxes, I wouldn't spread the web
site over the 2 machines either.

-Original Message-
From: Katz, Dov B (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 January 2005 12:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: divide and conquer (how to deploy cf, db, ftp, iis, etc over 2
boxes)


Assuming you have the following to run:
 
MSSQL2k,
LiveStats, 
IIS, 
CFMX6.1 (maybe eventually  7) , 
IMail (or some other mail server with POP, SMTP and webmail access) 
FTP services.
 
And you have 2 identical adjacent machines each with:
 
Dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 
4 GB RAM, 
3x73GB SCSI 10K rpm disks, in RAID (5?) array
Win2k server OS
 
The machines each have a dedicated NIC for talking to each other, and
then a separate public NIC card 
 
Here's what I was thinking:
 
Box 1)  CF, Backup MSSQL (via mssql automatic replication), and IIS just
for CFM pages at www.domain.com, and backup SMTP Box 2)  primary MSSQL,
IIS for images/static at img.domain.com  , and primary SMTP server
 
Boxes would have shared drive so Box 1 can upload static images to
Box2...   Box 2 would run a backup instance of CF, and have a copy of
the code in case it needs to be activated.  Static images which have
changed would be copied from Box 2 to Box 1 every X hours.
 
I was thinking of having IIS on img.domain.com redirect empty requests
to the real www.domain.com and set up domain.com to have DNS of IP1,
IP2, and img.domain.com = IP2, IP1
 
What would you do, and is this overengineering?   What would you do if
one box goes down? 

 
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Re: How to add images to my db the *right* way?

2005-01-11 Thread Joe Rinehart
she said she might want up to three images per item

Yep, but aren't clients notorious for saying Wait, I meant five!?

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RE: SQL Triggers

2005-01-11 Thread Robert Bailey
Thanks Tony


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Triggers

I took the liberty of rewriting your trigger for you. Just a hint, when
posting a question like this, include the table create statements if you
can. It makes writing the answer code easier (and in most cases
correct).

Remember that in triggers you have the inserted and the deleted tables.
You
can join them with any other tables in the database, so you don't have
to do
select statements to get the values. This also makes the trigger handle
multiple inserts / updates. Remember that trigger in SQL Server one get
executed once for the transaction. So in order to update multiple rows
you
have to use a LOOP, CURSOR, or know how to write some AWESOME SQL ;).

I also remember that UPDATE can use the FROM operator to update multiple
rows. Thus your trigger can be rewritten into just one little UPDATE
statemenet. How cute and compact. :P


CREATE TRIGGER dbo.MyTest ON dbo.UserTime
FOR INSERT
AS

UPDATE ProjectCosts
SET
InternalCost = ProjectCosts.InternalCost + (UR.UserRate *
i.ActualHours),
ActualHours = ProjectCosts.ActualHours + i.ActualHours
FROM
Orders
INNER JOIN inserted i
ON Orders.OrderID = i.OrderID
INNER JOIN UserRates UR
ON i.UserID = UR.UserID






-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL Triggers

A little rusty at the triggers I see, but here is what I got:

CREATE TRIGGER dbo.MyTest ON dbo.UserTime AFTER INSERT  AS

DECLARE @UserTimeProjID Int , @OrderProjID Int, @InternalCostAdd
Int,@ActualHours Int

Select @UserTimeProjID, @OrderProjID, @InternalCostAdd,@ActualHours 

(

SELECTUT.ProjectID, Orders.ProjectID, UR.UserRate * UT.ActualHours ,
UT.ActualHours
FROM Orders INNER JOIN
  UserTime UT ON Orders.OrderID = UT.OrderID INNER
JOIN
  UserRates UR ON UT.UserID = UR.UserID AND
UT.UserTimeID = @@IDENTITY

)

UPDATE ProjectCosts
SET InternalCost = ProjectCosts.InternalCost + @InternalCostAdd,
ActualHours = ProjectCosts.ActualHours + @ActualHours 
WHERE ProjectID = @UserTimeProjID
OR ProjectID = @OrderProjID
go


I am not sure if the @@identity works for the inserted row and if my
select statement is correct. Any pointers?

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Re: Strange: Can't login to cfadmin

2005-01-11 Thread Dan O'Keefe
No, you do not need to manually add that. Did you select the built in
webserser during install? Try substituting localhost or your machines
IP for the 127.0.0.1 IP.

Dan


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Re: search engine friendly urls

2005-01-11 Thread Bert Dawson
Prior to FB3 there was a customtag called formURL2attributes. Later
versions of this tag included the SES conversion stuff, but when FB3
was released the form and URL scope copying was moved to the core
files, and the SES stuff to a separate SESconverter.cfm.

So, if you want to use SES stuff in FB3+ you'll need to call
SESconverter.cfm from your code.
In FB3 this will need to happen before you include the core file, but
I'm not 100% sure about FB4: calling it before the core file should
work, but there might be a more cunning way...

As for how to call it, you can either call as a tag or cfinclude it.
The main thing you'll need to do is ensure you output the #basehref#
at the top of your template.
Also, on MX, you'll need to add a servlet mapping as described in
issue 52942 on 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_problems.html#generalserver

And there's an FAQ on www.fusium.com

Cheers
Bert

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 do I approach this and use it? All our apps use FB3 4.5 and we are
 moving them slowly but surely to MX and FB4.
 
 Duncan


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Re: html candy

2005-01-11 Thread Dan O'Keefe
Can this be called from within CF code via COM object or Java class?

Dan


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RE: Configuring IIS to Handle 404 Errors

2005-01-11 Thread Ben Rogers
I've done something similar to this already, actually. However, for one site
in particular, I need to take ColdFusion out of the equation. I need to let
the Web server handle 404 errors for that site.

It used to be the case that you could simply tick off the Check that file
exists box and be done with it. However, with the wildcard mapping, this
doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

To be honest, this is the first time I've noticed the wildcard mapping. I'm
a little uneasy with the thought that JRun will be invoked at least at some
level for static html pages. That just seems like a huge surface area and a
possible source of conflicts.

So, at least part of the reason I'm asking at this point is that I'm
interested in eliminating the wildcard mapping altogether. Unfortunately, I
can't find any documentation on it so I'm not sure why it exists.

Ben Rogers
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f.508.240.0057

 -Original Message-
 From: JediHomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:33 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Configuring IIS to Handle 404 Errors
 
 You could potentially code the 404 with a switch/case scenario to do
 different things and show different output depending on the host
 header (CGI.Server_Name)
 
 
 On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:27:47 -0500, Ben Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Unfortunately, that won't work for us. We host multiple sites on the
 same
  server. The ColdFusion error handler is server wide.
 
  Ben Rogers
  http://www.c4.net
  v.508.240.0051
  f.508.240.0057
 
   -Original Message-
   From: JediHomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:37 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Configuring IIS to Handle 404 Errors
  
   THere is an option in the CFAdministrator that lets you set a 404
   template.  We just use this, then let the template redirect the user
   to an appropriate page, or alternativly email developers etc.
  
   HTH
  
  
   On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:25:12 -0500, Ben Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm having trouble configuring IIS to handle 404 errors for
 ColdFusion
pages. Enabling the Check that file exists option on the .cfm
   extension
mapping is not enough.
   
It appears that ColdFusion (MX 6.1 with Updater) has added a
 wildcard
mapping. If I enable Check that file exists on that mapping, IIS
 traps
   404
errors.
   
However, I'm not sure what effect that has. This site in particular
 uses
Flash Remoting. I'm a little worried that the wildcard mapping
 handles
   those
types of requests (flashservices/gateway), for instance.
   
Does anyone know what the wildcard mapping is used for? Am I going
 about
this the wrong way?
   
Ben Rogers
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f.508.240.0057
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
Tony,

I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and technically,
it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only tricky thing is
that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle the upload, query
the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML structure back to the
html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why it's easy to plug in CFM,
ASP, etc. without changing the look or anything.  It's a neat idea, but
took me a while to figure out what the heck was going on.  Your problem
sounds strange...I don't know what the problem could be. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

hi there.

im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'

any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
non-working file uploader that exists with the app?

i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
have any experience with it, ket me know...

thanks

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RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
I wish that RDS allowed user accounts or something like that for greater
flexibility.  However, I do agree with Dave Watts that anything that
allows HTTP modification of files on my server makes me leary.  I
wouldn't allow something like that on a production box, though on
development it would be nice to have additional flexibility. 


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AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

Yea, I wish that sandbox could be used in conjunction with RDS... didn't
it used to?

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

Agreed. We don't let anyone touch the production boxes at all. They get
synced by an admin from test.

One thing RDS does that WebDav doesn't (afaik) is expose every
datasource on the box to every user, regardless of sandboxing. That's
why RDS is disabled on all of our shared boxes (dev, test and prod).

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 4:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

 I didn't think that RDS was for production systems?

It isn't. Neither is WebDAV, in my opinion. I'm reluctant to allow
people to edit files via HTTP on production systems in general.






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Certification Answers concering MX and Blackstone

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
After the questions that came up over the last couple of weeks about
getting certified for MX and if it will carry over to Blackstone, I
emailed Macromedia to ask what the deal was and this was the response I
got:

You will need to recertify on the new Blackstone exam. We offer
a 25% upgrade discount for currently certified professionals. Please
circle back when the new ColdFusion exam launches.

So, if you haven't gotten certified yet and you don't have a pressing
reason to do so before Blackstone, it seems that you'd be better waiting
until then.  I just figured I'd share the information that I received
since it seemed to be a popular topic.
 
 
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Re: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:06:12 -0600, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And if using Oracle you could use SQLLDR.  I have the need to do this
 just with CF and been using a CFC I got off this list for uploading it
 but still have not found the time to really progress with it.
 
 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:53:15 -0700, Paul Malan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you're using SQL Server, you can create a DTS package then call it
  from CF.  I couldn't believe the difference in speed when I switched
  to DTS.  (If you need to use CF to validate the incoming data, use DTS
  to populate a temp table, CF to pull it out and insert the validated
  data into its permanent home.  I'd wager still much quicker than using
  a loop over cffile contents, though I'd be curious to know if you wind
  up trying both...)
 
 
  On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:36:09 -0500, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi. I want to enable the user to upload a csv file, then the data
   should be validated against pre-defined criteria for different columns
   in the csv file. Once that is done, I want to write the validated
   rows from the csv file to the DB.
  

CSVs are much trickier than a lot of people realize to handle in my
experience. For example, there are two separate CSV formats -- one the
world uses and one Microsoft uses. How do you know which type you're
going to get? Secondly, did you know that you can have carriage
returns within a given field, and it's perfectly valid? There goes the
#Chr(13)##Chr(10)# delimiter check. Lastly, ColdFusion by itself is
going to be pretty slow and chew up lots of RAM as you increase the
size of the CSV file. You might be able to plan for current
requirements (basic validation, small files, etc.), but what about
down the road?

I just finished a project that needed to take multiple CSV files and
do all sorts of validation on the data before inserting into the
database. We wound up going with a multi-tiered solution:

1) First upload the file and do a basic file extension check via
ColdFusion to make sure it's a CSV file
2) Use the awesome Ostermiller utilities at
http://ostermiller.org/utils/CSV.html to actually parse the CSV file,
which returns a clean array with the data that you can then use
ColdFusion to loop over (i.e., to check file headers to make sure they
match what you're expecting). Simply download the jar file from the
site I mentioned, drop it in your lib directory, restart ColdFusion,
and off you go. Here's the CF syntax needed to use it if you get
stuck:

cffile action=READ file=#fileNameToRead# variable=fileContents /
cfset parser = createObject(java, com.Ostermiller.util.ExcelCSVParser) /
cfset parsedFile = parser.parse(fileContents) /

cfdump var=#parsedFile# /

3) At this point, you can do your specific data validation. This part
I'll leave to you because we bought a third party product that cost us
a ton of cash but has been worth every penny (we needed to geocode, do
a point-in-polygon analysis, and validate data ranges and stuff on
potentially tens of thousands of records at a time, and this product
is lightning quick at it...better than ColdFusion could ever be).

Hope this helps get you on your way.

Regards,
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Using XML

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Dixon
Hi Everyone.

We have a busy website that uses a third party XML feed. Basically
what happens is:

1) The visitor completes a form specifying their criteria.
2) A request is sent to the third party for results matching the criteria.
3) The third party response with and XML results feed.

The returned XML contains many elements with elements within them that
also contain multiple sub elements and one of the sub elements also
contains multiple sub elements. For example:

data
   elements
   element
   value11/value1
   value22/value2
   subelements
   subelement
value14/value1
value24/value2
   /subelement
   subelement
value14/value1
value24/value2
   subelement
   /subelements
   anothersubelements
   anothersubelement
value14/value1
value24/value2
   /anothersubelement
   anothersubelement
value14/value1
value24/value2
   anothersubelement
   /anothersubelements
   element
   element
   value11/value1
   value22/value2
   element
   /elements
/data

Personally I think the XML format is messy, but that is out of my
control. At the moment to parse the data into a query so I can create
a results page from I'm doing CFLOOP's within CFLOOP's starting by
looping over each 'element' inside the 'elements' structure and then
working inwards to the 'subelements' and 'anothersubelements' and also
the 'subsubelements' (not show above).

Is this the only way to do this, or is there a better way? This way is
very slow during busy times, but during quite times this is ok. Also
this way is also affected but the number of returned results. The more
results the more loops and therefore the longer it takes.

Thanks in advanced.

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RE: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Tim Blair
 2) Use the awesome Ostermiller utilities at
 http://ostermiller.org/utils/CSV.html to actually parse the
 CSV file

Hmm, excellent resource.  One to bookmark I think!  Cheers Dave.

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RE: Using XML

2005-01-11 Thread Ian Skinner
My first question is what is the requirement to parse the XML into a query?  
Why not just reference the XML object directly?


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...-Original Message-
...From: Andrew Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:59 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: Using XML
...
...Hi Everyone.
...
...We have a busy website that uses a third party XML feed. Basically
...what happens is:
...
...1) The visitor completes a form specifying their criteria.
...2) A request is sent to the third party for results matching the
...criteria.
...3) The third party response with and XML results feed.
...
...The returned XML contains many elements with elements within them that
...also contain multiple sub elements and one of the sub elements also
...contains multiple sub elements. For example:
...
...data
...   elements
...   element
...   value11/value1
...   value22/value2
...   subelements
...   subelement
...value14/value1
...value24/value2
...   /subelement
...   subelement
...value14/value1
...value24/value2
...   subelement
...   /subelements
...   anothersubelements
...   anothersubelement
...value14/value1
...value24/value2
...   /anothersubelement
...   anothersubelement
...value14/value1
...value24/value2
...   anothersubelement
...   /anothersubelements
...   element
...   element
...   value11/value1
...   value22/value2
...   element
...   /elements
.../data
...
...Personally I think the XML format is messy, but that is out of my
...control. At the moment to parse the data into a query so I can create
...a results page from I'm doing CFLOOP's within CFLOOP's starting by
...looping over each 'element' inside the 'elements' structure and then
...working inwards to the 'subelements' and 'anothersubelements' and also
...the 'subsubelements' (not show above).
...
...Is this the only way to do this, or is there a better way? This way is
...very slow during busy times, but during quite times this is ok. Also
...this way is also affected but the number of returned results. The more
...results the more loops and therefore the longer it takes.
...
...Thanks in advanced.
...
...Andrew.
...
...

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Connecting CFMX to MSDE SQL Server

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
I installed MSDE Sql Server and CFMX Developer Edition onto a laptop to
use for a demo of a CF app at a location where we can't get internet
access.  Once I installed MSDE Sql Server, I connected to it using
Enterprise Manager that is on the laptop and that worked fine.  However,
when I set up a datasource in CFMX using the sa account, it fails to
connect with the following error message:
 
Connection verification failed for data source: test
[]java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error
establishing socket. Connection refused: connect
The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer
JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection Refused: connect
 
I checked and the sa password is correct and it's the exact same one I'm
using when I register the enterprise manager instance.  Anyone have
experience with this or anything?  I know the Desktop Engine is supposed
to be more for a bundled application sort of thing so I'm wondering if
there's some sort of limitation involved that won't let me connect or if
there's something else that I need to do.  If this won't work, would the
SQL Server Developer Edition work better?  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
 
John Burns
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Re: Using XML

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Dixon
Because the data is very very messy and contains lots of repeated data
that needs getting rid of so I can give an accurate value of the
number of results.


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:04:05 -0800, Ian Skinner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My first question is what is the requirement to parse the XML into a query?  
 Why not just reference the XML object directly?
 
 --
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 Web Programmer
 BloodSource
 www.BloodSource.org
 Sacramento, CA
 
 C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!
 - Cynthia Dunning
 
 ...-Original Message-
 ...From: Andrew Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ...Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:59 AM
 ...To: CF-Talk
 ...Subject: Using XML
 ...
 ...Hi Everyone.
 ...
 ...We have a busy website that uses a third party XML feed. Basically
 ...what happens is:
 ...
 ...1) The visitor completes a form specifying their criteria.
 ...2) A request is sent to the third party for results matching the
 ...criteria.
 ...3) The third party response with and XML results feed.
 ...
 ...The returned XML contains many elements with elements within them that
 ...also contain multiple sub elements and one of the sub elements also
 ...contains multiple sub elements. For example:
 ...
 ...data
 ...   elements
 ...   element
 ...   value11/value1
 ...   value22/value2
 ...   subelements
 ...   subelement
 ...value14/value1
 ...value24/value2
 ...   /subelement
 ...   subelement
 ...value14/value1
 ...value24/value2
 ...   subelement
 ...   /subelements
 ...   anothersubelements
 ...   anothersubelement
 ...value14/value1
 ...value24/value2
 ...   /anothersubelement
 ...   anothersubelement
 ...value14/value1
 ...value24/value2
 ...   anothersubelement
 ...   /anothersubelements
 ...   element
 ...   element
 ...   value11/value1
 ...   value22/value2
 ...   element
 ...   /elements
 .../data
 ...
 ...Personally I think the XML format is messy, but that is out of my
 ...control. At the moment to parse the data into a query so I can create
 ...a results page from I'm doing CFLOOP's within CFLOOP's starting by
 ...looping over each 'element' inside the 'elements' structure and then
 ...working inwards to the 'subelements' and 'anothersubelements' and also
 ...the 'subsubelements' (not show above).
 ...
 ...Is this the only way to do this, or is there a better way? This way is
 ...very slow during busy times, but during quite times this is ok. Also
 ...this way is also affected but the number of returned results. The more
 ...results the more loops and therefore the longer it takes.
 ...
 ...Thanks in advanced.
 ...
 ...Andrew.
 ...
 ...
 
 

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RE: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Ben Rogers
 CSVs are much trickier than a lot of people realize to handle in my
 experience. For example, there are two separate CSV formats -- one the
 world uses and one Microsoft uses.

Actually, there is no standard for CSV. There are just about as many
formats as there are implementations. Consequently, CSV is not a
particularly good interchange format.

It's my understanding that what we commonly refer to as the CSV format was
popularized by Excel. Other applications, including those from Microsoft,
have used formats similar. In many cases, the format is loosely based on the
Excel format.

For instance, I don't believe the Excel format allows embedded carriage
returns and line feeds. Excel also trims leading zeros and white space. Many
other implementations do not. They will also allow carriage returns and line
feeds provided the data in question is enclosed in quotes.

 How do you know which type you're
 going to get? Secondly, did you know that you can have carriage
 returns within a given field, and it's perfectly valid?

Be careful. By using the word valid you're suggesting that CSV can be
validated against something akin to a DTD or that there's some overriding
standard. This is not the case. The Excel format is the closest thing to a
de facto standard, but it is also one of the most limiting.

Consequently, what one application considers valid is not necessarily what
another considers valid. You can have two CSV files which are perfectly
valid in their own context but which can't be shared with other
applications.

There are quite a few articles on CSV formatted files and ways to parse
them. I found this one in particular to be useful when I was writing a
simple CSV parser:

  http://www.creativyst.com/Doc/Articles/CSV/CSV01.htm

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OT: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All,

I'm looking into app development for the new generation of cell phones (you 
know...web enabled...built-in cameras...voice commands and 
memo..etc.OK...at least that's the next generation in Canada...and we have 
a lag...*sigh*).  I'm not sure if there is a standard OS or language (I've 
seen Java mentioned) for all phones...or all phones from one 
manufacturerare APIs available?

So basically any info on getting started with app dev for phones would be 
great...links...genberal knowledge dump...whatever ;-)

TIA

Cheers

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RE: Using XML

2005-01-11 Thread Ian Skinner
Can you expand on what results for which you are looking.  I suspect that you 
maybe able to achieve the results with XMLsearch() and/or XMLtransform(), but 
it would be difficult to give a meaningful example without knowing better what 
you are trying accomplish.

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RE: Connecting CFMX to MSDE SQL Server

2005-01-11 Thread Paul Vernon
With MSDE you have to configure an ODBC connector and then set up an ODBC
datasource in CFMX. MSDE doesn't listen on port 1433 as its intended to be a
desktop DB rather than a server application. Also I had to do everything
locally through Query Analyser rather than Enterprise manager for the very
same reason.

A pig of a problem but it is the only way to get a MS SQL instance running
on Windows 2003 Webserver edition which our development server runs... I
guess that MS's take on this is that if you are running webserver edition
then you should have a separate DB server. Whilst in a production
environment, this should be the case, in development I don't see a reason to
warrant that much more expense on hardware and licences... well maybe load
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getPageContext

2005-01-11 Thread Ciliotta, Mario
Hi,

Does getPageContext exist in CFMX 6.0?  We have not upgrade top MX6.1 yet and
I am not sure when we will.

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RE: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
At MAX there was a lot of discussion of Flash Lite for cell phones.
Carriers in Europe and Asia are starting to release phones with Flash
Lite pre-installed and it uses a Flash/Web services type of connectivity
to minimize the amount of data that needs to go back and forth while
still providing a rich user interface.  That seems to be the future if
more carriers pick up on the idea and manufacturers send phones
preloaded with Flash Lite.  I know that's macromedia's goal, so I guess
it depends on if the manufacturers and carriers sign on.  I'm not sure
if that would be a solution for the type of app you're trying to
develop.  If it's completely custom I know my phone uses Java and the
apps that I've seen for it (games, etc) are built using Java.  I have
Sprint and I'm in the US.  Anyway, I hope that helps. 


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AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: cell phone app development

Hey All,

I'm looking into app development for the new generation of cell phones
(you know...web enabled...built-in cameras...voice commands and
memo..etc.OK...at least that's the next generation in Canada...and
we have a lag...*sigh*).  I'm not sure if there is a standard OS or
language (I've seen Java mentioned) for all phones...or all phones from
one manufacturerare APIs available?

So basically any info on getting started with app dev for phones would
be great...links...genberal knowledge dump...whatever ;-)

TIA

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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fax: 250.480.1264
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RE: Connecting CFMX to MSDE SQL Server

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
Awesome, thanks for the tip! 


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Connecting CFMX to MSDE SQL Server

I always setup the datasource via Windows ODBC first and then in CF
Adminworks like a charm every time (and I get the same error you got
if I don't).

HTH

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Re: getPageContext

2005-01-11 Thread Al Everett
Yup.

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6/CFML_Reference/functions-pt1103.htm#4209678


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:17:20 -0500, Ciliotta, Mario
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 Does getPageContext exist in CFMX 6.0?  We have not upgrade top MX6.1 yet and
 I am not sure when we will.
 
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Re: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Ken wrote:
 Hi. I want to enable the user to upload a csv file, then the data
 should be validated against pre-defined criteria for different columns
 in the csv file. Once that is done, I want to write the validated
 rows from the csv file to the DB.

I would change the process a bit. Don't bother validating the 
csv, just use whatever native import utility your database has to 
import the csv into a temp table of the database. Then validate 
the records in the table and insert them into the permanent table.

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Re: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks John...that's a good starting point ;-)

So Flash-Lite ehI haven't heard of that before (or have forgotten 
already).  Does Flash-Lite work on say Pocket PCs or even better...Palm OS 
devices?

Cheers

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Re: getPageContext

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Dinowitz
It should and I'll be covering part of it tonight at the NYCFUG if your 
there.

 Hi,

 Does getPageContext exist in CFMX 6.0?  We have not upgrade top MX6.1 yet 
 and
 I am not sure when we will.

 Mario



 

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Re: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
The carriage return within a cell is actually the problem I ran into
and never looked back at what I will do to work past it.  This
requirement is kind of low on my list of things to get done so just
keeps moving towards the back burner.  The data I have is populated
into an Excel spreadsheet and then exported to CSV format from within
Excel.  Unfortunately this project is hosted in a shared environment
and the ability to put anything 3rd party is slim to none in actually
happening.  If I could just use SQLLDR then it would be a cake walk,
but that is not going to be an option.  The last time I looked into
this I was using java.io.BufferedReader and ran into it not liking
those carriage returns, had some suggestions on work arounds and will
look into those whenever I get back to this need.

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:48:11 -0500, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CSVs are much trickier than a lot of people realize to handle in my
 experience. For example, there are two separate CSV formats -- one the
 world uses and one Microsoft uses. How do you know which type you're
 going to get? Secondly, did you know that you can have carriage
 returns within a given field, and it's perfectly valid? There goes the
 #Chr(13)##Chr(10)# delimiter check. Lastly, ColdFusion by itself is
 going to be pretty slow and chew up lots of RAM as you increase the
 size of the CSV file. You might be able to plan for current
 requirements (basic validation, small files, etc.), but what about
 down the road?
 
 I just finished a project that needed to take multiple CSV files and
 do all sorts of validation on the data before inserting into the
 database. We wound up going with a multi-tiered solution:
 
 1) First upload the file and do a basic file extension check via
 ColdFusion to make sure it's a CSV file
 2) Use the awesome Ostermiller utilities at
 http://ostermiller.org/utils/CSV.html to actually parse the CSV file,
 which returns a clean array with the data that you can then use
 ColdFusion to loop over (i.e., to check file headers to make sure they
 match what you're expecting). Simply download the jar file from the
 site I mentioned, drop it in your lib directory, restart ColdFusion,
 and off you go. Here's the CF syntax needed to use it if you get
 stuck:
 
 cffile action=READ file=#fileNameToRead# variable=fileContents /
 cfset parser = createObject(java, com.Ostermiller.util.ExcelCSVParser) /
 cfset parsedFile = parser.parse(fileContents) /
 
 cfdump var=#parsedFile# /
 
 3) At this point, you can do your specific data validation. This part
 I'll leave to you because we bought a third party product that cost us
 a ton of cash but has been worth every penny (we needed to geocode, do
 a point-in-polygon analysis, and validate data ranges and stuff on
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Re: SQL Server on Windows XP

2005-01-11 Thread Troy Murray
MSDE will allow you to run your database but does not provide the GUI
tools to manage the datbase.  This means you have to do your
administration through the command-line tools or through coding in
your CF app.

Microsoft offers a version of SQL Server 2000 for developers.  The
cost is $49.95/developer and provides the GUI tools to administer the
database.  You can use this version to develop and test your
applications.  To me, demoing would fall under the term testing.

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/development.asp




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 yeah, SQL 2005 express is going to be worth waiting for.
 
 You're going to be allowed to use the FREE version in production systems
 
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 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:40:25 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I remember some discussions of SQL Server (Server instance)
   being installed on Windows XP for development purposes.  Is
   this only available using SQL Server Developers Edition?
 
  Yes, I believe so.
 
   If so, is that something that's included with an MSDN
   subscription or anything like that or can you only get it by
   purchasing at microsoft.com for $49.95?
 
  If you have MSDN, it's in there along with Enterprise and Standard (on the
  same CD, I think). Otherwise, you can purchase it separately.
 
   We have a site we need to demo on a military base and the
   portion we're going to is locked down and we can't get internet
   access to demo it from our server here so we're planning to
   install everything we need on a laptop so we can show it from
   there. Any advice that anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.
 
  You might consider installing a server operating system on a laptop, if you
  plan to do a lot of these sorts of demos. I've run Windows 2000 Server and
  Windows Server 2003 for quite some time on laptops.
 
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Re: Ok, here's a brute

2005-01-11 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 10 Jan 2005 20:56 pm, Ian Skinner wrote:
 Any hints on where I can start debugging why a form I have now complete
 crashes the IE browser when I submit it? 

Use FireFox.
Copious log statements (or cfthrows).

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Re: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:11:27 -0500, Ben Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  CSVs are much trickier than a lot of people realize to handle in my
  experience. For example, there are two separate CSV formats -- one the
  world uses and one Microsoft uses.
 
 Actually, there is no standard for CSV. There are just about as many
 formats as there are implementations. Consequently, CSV is not a
 particularly good interchange format.

Which further emphasizes my point that basic ColdFusion solutions of
looking for carriage returns and the like is not a robust way to solve
this problem.

 
 It's my understanding that what we commonly refer to as the CSV format was
 popularized by Excel. Other applications, including those from Microsoft,
 have used formats similar. In many cases, the format is loosely based on the
 Excel format.
 
 For instance, I don't believe the Excel format allows embedded carriage
 returns and line feeds. Excel also trims leading zeros and white space. Many
 other implementations do not. They will also allow carriage returns and line
 feeds provided the data in question is enclosed in quotes.
 
  How do you know which type you're
  going to get? Secondly, did you know that you can have carriage
  returns within a given field, and it's perfectly valid?
 
 Be careful. By using the word valid you're suggesting that CSV can be
 validated against something akin to a DTD or that there's some overriding
 standard. This is not the case. The Excel format is the closest thing to a
 de facto standard, but it is also one of the most limiting.

Well, I would have said validated if I meant to a DTD or XSD or some
such, and I've never even heard of any validation mechanisms for CSV
files other than parsing the file itself.

 
 Consequently, what one application considers valid is not necessarily what
 another considers valid. You can have two CSV files which are perfectly
 valid in their own context but which can't be shared with other
 applications.

Sure, but the same could be said of almost any transport medium. For
example, an XML file might be valid on one system, but not necessarily
on another if the DTD/XSD it validates against is different.

 
 There are quite a few articles on CSV formatted files and ways to parse
 them. I found this one in particular to be useful when I was writing a
 simple CSV parser:
 
   http://www.creativyst.com/Doc/Articles/CSV/CSV01.htm

That's a good one. I'm particularly interested in the CSV to XML
converter they posted. Thanks for the link.

Regards,
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Re: SQL Server on Windows XP

2005-01-11 Thread John Beynon
or just download the trial version of SQL 2000 from MS and only
install Enterprise Manager :)

jb.


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 MSDE will allow you to run your database but does not provide the GUI
 tools to manage the datbase.  This means you have to do your
 administration through the command-line tools or through coding in
 your CF app.
 
 Microsoft offers a version of SQL Server 2000 for developers.  The
 cost is $49.95/developer and provides the GUI tools to administer the
 database.  You can use this version to develop and test your
 applications.  To me, demoing would fall under the term testing.
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/development.asp
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:54:45 +, John Beynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yeah, SQL 2005 express is going to be worth waiting for.
 
  You're going to be allowed to use the FREE version in production systems
 
  jb
 
 
  On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:40:25 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I remember some discussions of SQL Server (Server instance)
being installed on Windows XP for development purposes.  Is
this only available using SQL Server Developers Edition?
  
   Yes, I believe so.
  
If so, is that something that's included with an MSDN
subscription or anything like that or can you only get it by
purchasing at microsoft.com for $49.95?
  
   If you have MSDN, it's in there along with Enterprise and Standard (on the
   same CD, I think). Otherwise, you can purchase it separately.
  
We have a site we need to demo on a military base and the
portion we're going to is locked down and we can't get internet
access to demo it from our server here so we're planning to
install everything we need on a laptop so we can show it from
there. Any advice that anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.
  
   You might consider installing a server operating system on a laptop, if 
   you
   plan to do a lot of these sorts of demos. I've run Windows 2000 Server and
   Windows Server 2003 for quite some time on laptops.
  
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RE: Ok, here's a brute

2005-01-11 Thread Ian Skinner
I did use Firefox; unfortunately it was not very helpful, because it had no 
problem.  It processed the page and went on just fine without reporting any 
kind of problem what so ever.

IE 6.0 also did not seem to have any problems.  So after my initial phase of 
panic, I downloaded 17 of the 19 Windows 2000 server and IE 5.5 security 
patches MS said I needed and that does seem to have helped.  No crashes yet 
since the updates.

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Re: OT: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Rick Mason
Bryan,

I don't know about Canada but you can use Flash Lite on phones it
seems everywhere except in the USA.

I helped develop an application a few years back with AppForge
(appforge.com) which at the time was an add-in for Visual Basic 6.

Company wasn't easy to deal with at all.  But if you know Basic it's
pretty easy to get something going and your program can work on either
Palm or WinCE phones as well as I think Symbian platforms.

There's a run-time charge on WinCE (not on Palm), it's pricey and the
company is difficult.  Back a few years ago though there just weren't
many other alternatives.


Rick Mason


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:12:32 -0800, Bryan Stevenson
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 Hey All,
 
 I'm looking into app development for the new generation of cell phones (you 
 know...web enabled...built-in cameras...voice commands and 
 memo..etc.OK...at least that's the next generation in Canada...and we 
 have a lag...*sigh*).  I'm not sure if there is a standard OS or language 
 (I've seen Java mentioned) for all phones...or all phones from one 
 manufacturerare APIs available?
 
 So basically any info on getting started with app dev for phones would be 
 great...links...genberal knowledge dump...whatever ;-)
 
 TIA
 
 Cheers
 
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 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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 fax: 250.480.1264
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RE: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Eric Hoffman
I am just starting to deal with this...and we are using XHTML for apps via the 
blazer web browser on a group of TREO 650's from Sprint (sweet, sweet phones) 
at least that's the plan now.



From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: OT: cell phone app development



Hey All,

I'm looking into app development for the new generation of cell phones (you 
know...web enabled...built-in cameras...voice commands and 
memo..etc.OK...at least that's the next generation in Canada...and we have 
a lag...*sigh*).  I'm not sure if there is a standard OS or language (I've 
seen Java mentioned) for all phones...or all phones from one 
manufacturerare APIs available?

So basically any info on getting started with app dev for phones would be 
great...links...genberal knowledge dump...whatever ;-)

TIA

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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fax: 250.480.1264
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RE: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Ben Rogers
 Which further emphasizes my point that basic ColdFusion solutions of
 looking for carriage returns and the like is not a robust way to solve
 this problem.

I wasn't debating that point. However, it's worth noting that this is
entirely dependent on the application which generated the CSV file. If the
files are all coming from Excel -- which I believe does not allow embedded
carriage returns -- then scanning for carriage returns is perfectly fine.
 
 Well, I would have said validated if I meant to a DTD or XSD or some
 such, and I've never even heard of any validation mechanisms for CSV
 files other than parsing the file itself.

But you did use the word valid. That is a loaded term on a ColdFusion
mailing list filled with Web developers. I was merely trying to clarify the
statement.

Your messages seemed to suggest that there was a right and wrong way to
parse a CSV file. I was simply trying to convey that there are as many
correct ways to parse CSV files as there are different flavors of CSV
because CSV is not a standard.

 Sure, but the same could be said of almost any transport medium. For
 example, an XML file might be valid on one system, but not necessarily
 on another if the DTD/XSD it validates against is different.

I think you're conflating the issue (possibly because I mentioned DTDs in
the previous message).

There is an XML standard. Consequently, I can validate the XML document to
ensure that it's properly *formatted*. I can be reasonably sure that, if I
create a standards compliant XML document, that other applications will be
able to parse it. What they do with it from there is up to them.

It's worth noting that, if they can't, then it's probably their fault. In
rare cases, it may be an ambiguity in the standard. This is not the case
with CSV. The format of a CSV file can be perfectly valid for one
application but invalid for another.

XML also supports DTDs, which allow you to validate the *structure* of the
document (as opposed to the format). If a DTD uses an absolute URI (or is
otherwise available on both systems), then the structure of the document can
be validated on both systems.

Since there is no CSV standard, the format cannot be validated. The closest
thing you get to a DTD in a CSV file is when some applications include the
column names in the first line of the file. This tells you the number of
columns that you can expect.

 That's a good one. I'm particularly interested in the CSV to XML
 converter they posted. Thanks for the link.

BTW, I agree with the posts that suggest using DTS, SQLLDR and other such
apps. They've already solved a good deal of the integration problems. DTS in
particular provides a nifty wizard which lets the developer describe the CVS
flavor that you have.

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Re: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:35:56 -0500, Ben Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Which further emphasizes my point that basic ColdFusion solutions of
  looking for carriage returns and the like is not a robust way to solve
  this problem.
 
 I wasn't debating that point. However, it's worth noting that this is
 entirely dependent on the application which generated the CSV file. If the
 files are all coming from Excel -- which I believe does not allow embedded
 carriage returns -- then scanning for carriage returns is perfectly fine.

Agreed. For the record, it looks like Excell (I'm using 2003) does
indeed allow carriage returns. I just ran a quick test (when in the
cell, hit Alt+Enter to start a new line within it) and it saved out
with the carriage return.

 
  Well, I would have said validated if I meant to a DTD or XSD or some
  such, and I've never even heard of any validation mechanisms for CSV
  files other than parsing the file itself.
 
 But you did use the word valid. That is a loaded term on a ColdFusion
 mailing list filled with Web developers. I was merely trying to clarify the
 statement.

Yeah, I guess I can see the confusion.

 
 Your messages seemed to suggest that there was a right and wrong way to
 parse a CSV file. I was simply trying to convey that there are as many
 correct ways to parse CSV files as there are different flavors of CSV
 because CSV is not a standard.

That wasn't my point at all. I was actually pointing out the opposite
-- that there were too many different ways to parse CSV files, so the
usually common ColdFusion suggestion of looping over rows and looking
for carriage returns won't necessarily suffice.

 
  Sure, but the same could be said of almost any transport medium. For
  example, an XML file might be valid on one system, but not necessarily
  on another if the DTD/XSD it validates against is different.
 
 I think you're conflating the issue (possibly because I mentioned DTDs in
 the previous message).
 
 There is an XML standard. Consequently, I can validate the XML document to
 ensure that it's properly *formatted*. I can be reasonably sure that, if I
 create a standards compliant XML document, that other applications will be
 able to parse it. What they do with it from there is up to them.
 
 It's worth noting that, if they can't, then it's probably their fault. In
 rare cases, it may be an ambiguity in the standard. This is not the case
 with CSV. The format of a CSV file can be perfectly valid for one
 application but invalid for another.

I'm with you now.

 
 XML also supports DTDs, which allow you to validate the *structure* of the
 document (as opposed to the format). If a DTD uses an absolute URI (or is
 otherwise available on both systems), then the structure of the document can
 be validated on both systems.
 
 Since there is no CSV standard, the format cannot be validated. The closest
 thing you get to a DTD in a CSV file is when some applications include the
 column names in the first line of the file. This tells you the number of
 columns that you can expect.
 
  That's a good one. I'm particularly interested in the CSV to XML
  converter they posted. Thanks for the link.
 
 BTW, I agree with the posts that suggest using DTS, SQLLDR and other such
 apps. They've already solved a good deal of the integration problems. DTS in
 particular provides a nifty wizard which lets the developer describe the CVS
 flavor that you have.

I use Oracle here at work, and my experience with SQLLDR is that,
while it's an extremely powerful way of bulk loading data, the format
of the file needs to be perfect for it to succeed. Hence the
suggestion of going through the different steps to verify that you
have a validly structured CSV file (with the Ostermiller utilities,
etc.), particularly when I have external clients who will mess up
their files from time to time. I've not used DTS personally, but by
many accounts, it's an invaluable part of the SQL Server product and
is a great fit for this sort of work.

Regards,
Dave.

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Re: WIKI App?

2005-01-11 Thread Keith Gaughan
Jake. wrote:

 Keith, I'm happy to help bang around on it. I'll check out sourceforge.

Well, I've warned you of the state it's in! But any help'd be
appreciated.

 So are the SeedWiki on SF and www.seedwiki.com the same thing?

I believe so.

 If so, it's change it's product... it's now a free app for limited,
 public usage and Web based. Charges apply for private WIKIs

I think the deal is that SeedWiki itself is FLOSS, but the project
sponsors offer a hosting service in addition.

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RE: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Ben Rogers
 Agreed. For the record, it looks like Excell (I'm using 2003) does
 indeed allow carriage returns. I just ran a quick test (when in the
 cell, hit Alt+Enter to start a new line within it) and it saved out
 with the carriage return.

Good to know. Thanks for testing.

 That wasn't my point at all. I was actually pointing out the opposite
 -- that there were too many different ways to parse CSV files, so the
 usually common ColdFusion suggestion of looping over rows and looking
 for carriage returns won't necessarily suffice.

I understood your point and was generally agreeing. I was just trying to
clarify because I thought it might be confusing. In other words, I could see
how someone would read your message and think that, if they added support
for embedded carriage returns and line breaks, they would somehow have a
valid CSV parser. 

 I use Oracle here at work, and my experience with SQLLDR is that,
 while it's an extremely powerful way of bulk loading data, the format
 of the file needs to be perfect for it to succeed. Hence the
 suggestion of going through the different steps to verify that you
 have a validly structured CSV file (with the Ostermiller utilities,
 etc.), particularly when I have external clients who will mess up
 their files from time to time. I've not used DTS personally, but by
 many accounts, it's an invaluable part of the SQL Server product and
 is a great fit for this sort of work.

I have very little experience with Oracle and none (directly) with SQLLDR. I
*ass*umed it was similar to DTS. :) DTS, though awkward in many ways, is a
pretty incredible piece of technology. I've seen sites that use thousands of
DTS packages and a simple VB scheduler to manage all sorts of operations
(data migration, work flow, data management, data validation, etc). It
surprises me how many of the daily operations at several Fortune 500
companies are handled this way.

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RE: WIKI App?

2005-01-11 Thread Ben Rogers
I took a look at this, but couldn't quite figure out how to set it up.
Specifically, I couldn't find a directory that looked like a web root?

Ben Rogers
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 -Original Message-
 From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: WIKI App?
 
 Jake. wrote:
 
  Keith, I'm happy to help bang around on it. I'll check out sourceforge.
 
 Well, I've warned you of the state it's in! But any help'd be
 appreciated.
 
  So are the SeedWiki on SF and www.seedwiki.com the same thing?
 
 I believe so.
 
  If so, it's change it's product... it's now a free app for limited,
  public usage and Web based. Charges apply for private WIKIs
 
 I think the deal is that SeedWiki itself is FLOSS, but the project
 sponsors offer a hosting service in addition.
 
 K.
 
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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Weeg
thank ya john...

i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i
tested and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the
file upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)

im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.

thanks.
tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony,
 
 I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and technically,
 it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only tricky thing is
 that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle the upload, query
 the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML structure back to the
 html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why it's easy to plug in CFM,
 ASP, etc. without changing the look or anything.  It's a neat idea, but
 took me a while to figure out what the heck was going on.  Your problem
 sounds strange...I don't know what the problem could be.
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
 hi there.
 
 im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
 
 any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
 non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
 
 i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
 have any experience with it, ket me know...
 
 thanks
 
 --
 tony
 
 Tony Weeg
 
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RE: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
I am not sure as to what extent Flash lite will be distributed but I
know the target market is mobile phones.  I sat in on a couple of
sessions at MAX and supposedly Macromedia is working out major contracts
with major manufacturers and carriers to get Flash Lite installed on all
mobile phones.  Again, I think that their success in this endeavor will
make a huge difference as to how successful this method is.  One of the
sessions I sat in showed some apps that they've already developed and a
little about how to develop them yourself.  Flash MX Professional 2004
comes with templates for different phones that you can run your little
app in.  I think there might be some kind of developer kit for Flash
Lite as well.  Check the live docs and search Macromedia and I'm sure
you can find more info. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cell phone app development

Thanks John...that's a good starting point ;-)

So Flash-Lite ehI haven't heard of that before (or have forgotten
already).  Does Flash-Lite work on say Pocket PCs or even better...Palm
OS devices?

Cheers

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Re: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Jeff Small
 Thanks John...that's a good starting point ;-)

 So Flash-Lite ehI haven't heard of that before (or have forgotten
 already).  Does Flash-Lite work on say Pocket PCs or even better...Palm OS
 devices?

Flash Lite does indeed work on PocketPC. It's pretty sweet, but PocketPCs 
aren't really cellphones. For cellphone development you want to take a long 
hard look at J2ME. It seems to be the defacto language for ubiquitous 
cellphone apps. Sun has some great stuff on their site.

The reason I replied though, then I'll back out of this conversation because 
for the life of me I can't see any way to make it ColdFusion relevant, (lol, 
I tried, but it appears that certain upcoming features for a certain 
upcoming software release aren't actually public yet) is, if you're REALLY 
interested in Flash Lite, see if you can join the online Flash Lite seminar 
tomorrow.

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=detailid=127144loc=en_us

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Re: Revised Thread - Uploading CSV and Validation

2005-01-11 Thread Larry White
I was just providing a method using carriage returns and lists,
not the entire code. It's fairly simple to find out if the data
delimiters are correctly interpreted, or embedded in the data
since the list lengths (fields) will be wrong. Those that don't match
the field count can be saved to another list for further analysis
and cleanup.

Obviously, a direct loading utility into the database is
preferable over using CF.

 2) Use the awesome Ostermiller utilities at
 http://ostermiller.org/utils/CSV.html to actually parse the
 CSV file

Hmm, excellent resource.  One to bookmark I think!  Cheers Dave.

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RE: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
Cool, I'd be anxious to see since I'm using FCK as well.  I haven't
noticed any problems yet on my end though. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

thank ya john...

i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i tested
and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the file
upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)

im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.

thanks.
tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony,
 
 I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and 
 technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only 
 tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle 
 the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML 
 structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why 
 it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing the look or 
 anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to figure out what 
 the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds strange...I don't know
what the problem could be.
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web 
 Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
 hi there.
 
 im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
 
 any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the 
 non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
 
 i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you 
 have any experience with it, ket me know...
 
 thanks
 
 --
 tony
 
 Tony Weeg
 
 macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
 email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
 blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
 cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
 
 



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Re: WIKI App?

2005-01-11 Thread Keith Gaughan
Ben Rogers wrote:

 I took a look at this, but couldn't quite figure out how to set it up.
 Specifically, I couldn't find a directory that looked like a web root?

Of what: FusionWiki or SeedWiki?

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Weeg
im thinking about packaging all of it up, into an html page creator,
etc... shouldnt be too too hard, and free, since every bit of its GPL,
right?

can i do that, as long as i give credit where credit is due, and not
sell it for a price... right?

tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:17 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cool, I'd be anxious to see since I'm using FCK as well.  I haven't
 noticed any problems yet on my end though.
 
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
 thank ya john...
 
 i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i tested
 and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the file
 upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
 im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
 thanks.
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony,
 
  I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and
  technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only
  tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle
  the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML
  structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why
  it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing the look or
  anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to figure out what
  the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds strange...I don't know
 what the problem could be.
 
  John Burns
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web
  Developer
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
  hi there.
 
  im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
 
  any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
  non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
 
  i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
  have any experience with it, ket me know...
 
  thanks
 
  --
  tony
 
  Tony Weeg
 
  macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
  email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
  blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
  cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
 
 
 
 

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Joe Rinehart
Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??

-Joe


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:18:59 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thank ya john...
 
 i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i
 tested and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the
 file upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
 im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
 thanks.
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony,
 
  I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and technically,
  it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only tricky thing is
  that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle the upload, query
  the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML structure back to the
  html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why it's easy to plug in CFM,
  ASP, etc. without changing the look or anything.  It's a neat idea, but
  took me a while to figure out what the heck was going on.  Your problem
  sounds strange...I don't know what the problem could be.
 
  John Burns
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
  AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
  hi there.
 
  im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
 
  any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
  non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
 
  i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
  have any experience with it, ket me know...
 
  thanks
 
  --
  tony
 
  Tony Weeg
 
  macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
  email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
  blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
  cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
 
 
 
 

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RE: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
Hmm, I'm not sure.  You might want to email Fred and see what he says.
He seems to be an easy going guy so he may agree with you, but you never
know :-)

I know I changed up the CFM connector some to make it work off of
session variables so each client that logs into our management site
would only see the images for their site and I could specify on the fly
where files get stored. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

im thinking about packaging all of it up, into an html page creator,
etc... shouldnt be too too hard, and free, since every bit of its GPL,
right?

can i do that, as long as i give credit where credit is due, and not
sell it for a price... right?

tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:17 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cool, I'd be anxious to see since I'm using FCK as well.  I haven't 
 noticed any problems yet on my end though.
 
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web 
 Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
 thank ya john...
 
 i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i 
 tested and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the 
 file upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
 im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
 thanks.
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony,
 
  I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and 
  technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only 
  tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle

  the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML 
  structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why

  it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing the look or 
  anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to figure out what 
  the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds strange...I don't know
 what the problem could be.
 
  John Burns
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web 
  Developer
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
  hi there.
 
  im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
 
  any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the

  non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
 
  i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you

  have any experience with it, ket me know...
 
  thanks
 
  --
  tony
 
  Tony Weeg
 
  macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
  email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
  blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
  cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
 
 
 
 



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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Jeah... I really like the F$cK editor that is until my end users
used it. Now it's the only complaints / bugs I hear about. Cept I have
the opposite problems with it, the only thing that work well is the
Image Manager... which I wrote.

-Adam


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:52:45 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 im thinking about packaging all of it up, into an html page creator,
 etc... shouldnt be too too hard, and free, since every bit of its GPL,
 right?
 
 can i do that, as long as i give credit where credit is due, and not
 sell it for a price... right?
 
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:17 -0500, Burns, John D
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Cool, I'd be anxious to see since I'm using FCK as well.  I haven't
  noticed any problems yet on my end though.
 
 
  John Burns
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
  AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:19 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
  thank ya john...
 
  i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i tested
  and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the file
  upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
  im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
  thanks.
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony,
  
   I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and
   technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only
   tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle
   the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML
   structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why
   it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing the look or
   anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to figure out what
   the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds strange...I don't know
  what the problem could be.
  
   John Burns
   Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web
   Developer
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
  
   hi there.
  
   im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
  
   any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
   non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
  
   i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
   have any experience with it, ket me know...
  
   thanks
  
   --
   tony
  
   Tony Weeg
  
   macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
   email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
   blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
   cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
Tony,

I'm not sure.  You might want to email Fred and see what he says.
He seems to be an easy going guy so he may agree with you, but you never
know :-)


Adam, I know I changed up the CFM connector some to make it work off of
session variables so each client that logs into our management site
would only see the images for their site and I could specify on the fly
where files get stored.  I was wondering who wrote that :-) I emailed
him to get details on what needed to be built and he said someone else
was already building it...so it seems you beat me to it :-)


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

Jeah... I really like the F$cK editor that is until my end users
used it. Now it's the only complaints / bugs I hear about. Cept I have
the opposite problems with it, the only thing that work well is the
Image Manager... which I wrote.

-Adam




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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Weeg
nope :(

i dont code for that browser, all my apps are 100% internal use for my
clients only, therefore i can dictate the browser used :)

tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:55:50 -0500, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??
 
 -Joe
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:18:59 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  thank ya john...
 
  i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i
  tested and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the
  file upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
  im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
  thanks.
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony,
  
   I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and technically,
   it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only tricky thing is
   that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle the upload, query
   the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML structure back to the
   html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why it's easy to plug in CFM,
   ASP, etc. without changing the look or anything.  It's a neat idea, but
   took me a while to figure out what the heck was going on.  Your problem
   sounds strange...I don't know what the problem could be.
  
   John Burns
   Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
   AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
  
   hi there.
  
   im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
  
   any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
   non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
  
   i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
   have any experience with it, ket me know...
  
   thanks
  
   --
   tony
  
   Tony Weeg
  
   macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
   email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
   blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
   cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Weeg
ive just tried it, and basically it just FROZE the browser testing
isnt going well :(

tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:04:21 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 nope :(
 
 i dont code for that browser, all my apps are 100% internal use for my
 clients only, therefore i can dictate the browser used :)
 
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:55:50 -0500, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??
 
  -Joe
 
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:18:59 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   thank ya john...
  
   i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i
   tested and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the
   file upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
  
   im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
  
   thanks.
   tw
  
   On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony,
   
I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and technically,
it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only tricky thing is
that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle the upload, query
the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML structure back to the
html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why it's easy to plug in CFM,
ASP, etc. without changing the look or anything.  It's a neat idea, but
took me a while to figure out what the heck was going on.  Your problem
sounds strange...I don't know what the problem could be.
   
John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
   
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
   
hi there.
   
im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
   
any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
   
i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
have any experience with it, ket me know...
   
thanks
   
--
tony
   
Tony Weeg
   
macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
   
   
  
  
 
  

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Joe Rinehart
Hey Tony,

It's actually L(esser)GPL, which is more lax than the full-blown GPL:

http://www.opensource.org/licenses/lgpl-license.php

A closed-source, commercial app can use a LGPL library  in its
software (as long as they include the library's source or make a way
to get source), but the app can't be a work based on the library.

There's sure to be a better explanation of it than what I just gave out there.

-Joe



On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:52:45 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 im thinking about packaging all of it up, into an html page creator,
 etc... shouldnt be too too hard, and free, since every bit of its GPL,
 right?
 
 can i do that, as long as i give credit where credit is due, and not
 sell it for a price... right?
 
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:17 -0500, Burns, John D
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Cool, I'd be anxious to see since I'm using FCK as well.  I haven't
  noticed any problems yet on my end though.
 
 
  John Burns
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
  AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:19 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
  thank ya john...
 
  i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i tested
  and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the file
  upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
  im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
  thanks.
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony,
  
   I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and
   technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only
   tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle
   the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML
   structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why
   it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing the look or
   anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to figure out what
   the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds strange...I don't know
  what the problem could be.
  
   John Burns
   Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web
   Developer
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
  
   hi there.
  
   im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
  
   any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
   non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
  
   i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
   have any experience with it, ket me know...
  
   thanks
  
   --
   tony
  
   Tony Weeg
  
   macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
   email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
   blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
   cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
That's weird, I don't have any trouble using Firefox with mine. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

ive just tried it, and basically it just FROZE the browser testing
isnt going well :(

tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:04:21 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 nope :(
 
 i dont code for that browser, all my apps are 100% internal use for my

 clients only, therefore i can dictate the browser used :)
 
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:55:50 -0500, Joe Rinehart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??
 
  -Joe


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RE: WIKI App?

2005-01-11 Thread Ben Rogers
Sorry, I was referring to SeedWiki. There were downloads listed. I took a
look through each but couldn't make heads or tails of the site structure.

Ben Rogers
http://www.c4.net
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057

 -Original Message-
 From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: WIKI App?
 
 Ben Rogers wrote:
 
  I took a look at this, but couldn't quite figure out how to set it up.
  Specifically, I couldn't find a directory that looked like a web root?
 
 Of what: FusionWiki or SeedWiki?
 
 --
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 Digital Crew Ltd., Pembroke House, Pembroke Street, Cork, Ireland
 http://digital-crew.com/
 
 

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Weeg
TESTED :) WORKED, KINDA SLOW, almost like the browser wanted to choke,
but the image that i uploaded made it through just fine...

so i take the crash back, and say temporarily that it works, in firefox...

what didnt work, was the ability to right click on an image that is in
the textarea and go to image properties... thats the only part that
made it crash in firefox for me.  just simply putting an image on the
page, and using the upload to make that happen, worked, just fine!

:) tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:55:50 -0500, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??
 
 -Joe
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:18:59 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  thank ya john...
 
  i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i
  tested and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the
  file upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
  im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
  thanks.
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony,
  
   I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and technically,
   it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only tricky thing is
   that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle the upload, query
   the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML structure back to the
   html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why it's easy to plug in CFM,
   ASP, etc. without changing the look or anything.  It's a neat idea, but
   took me a while to figure out what the heck was going on.  Your problem
   sounds strange...I don't know what the problem could be.
  
   John Burns
   Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
   AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
  
   hi there.
  
   im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
  
   any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
   non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
  
   i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
   have any experience with it, ket me know...
  
   thanks
  
   --
   tony
  
   Tony Weeg
  
   macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
   email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
   blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
   cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Joe Rinehart
John, would you be able to send me a copy of what you have?  I get JS
errors whenever I use the link/image browser/uploader in Firefox.

Thanks,

Joe



On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:08:24 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's weird, I don't have any trouble using Firefox with mine.
 
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:07 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
 ive just tried it, and basically it just FROZE the browser testing
 isnt going well :(
 
 tw
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:04:21 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  nope :(
 
  i dont code for that browser, all my apps are 100% internal use for my
 
  clients only, therefore i can dictate the browser used :)
 
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:55:50 -0500, Joe Rinehart
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??
  
   -Joe
 
 
 

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Weeg
so, can i wrap it up into a little set of files, that work with cfm,
with no changes but a setup file?

shit, if its that big of a deal, i just wrap it up for myself, put it
on my shelf at home, and use it when i need to ;)

tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:08:43 -0500, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Tony,
 
 It's actually L(esser)GPL, which is more lax than the full-blown GPL:
 
 http://www.opensource.org/licenses/lgpl-license.php
 
 A closed-source, commercial app can use a LGPL library  in its
 software (as long as they include the library's source or make a way
 to get source), but the app can't be a work based on the library.
 
 There's sure to be a better explanation of it than what I just gave out there.
 
 -Joe
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:52:45 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  im thinking about packaging all of it up, into an html page creator,
  etc... shouldnt be too too hard, and free, since every bit of its GPL,
  right?
 
  can i do that, as long as i give credit where credit is due, and not
  sell it for a price... right?
 
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:17 -0500, Burns, John D
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Cool, I'd be anxious to see since I'm using FCK as well.  I haven't
   noticed any problems yet on my end though.
  
  
   John Burns
   Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
   AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:19 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
  
   thank ya john...
  
   i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i tested
   and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the file
   upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
  
   im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
  
   thanks.
   tw
  
   On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony,
   
I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and
technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only
tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle
the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML
structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why
it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing the look or
anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to figure out what
the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds strange...I don't know
   what the problem could be.
   
John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web
Developer
   
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
   
hi there.
   
im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
   
any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
   
i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
have any experience with it, ket me know...
   
thanks
   
--
tony
   
Tony Weeg
   
macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
That's odd.  It all works flawlessly for me.  Right-click and all. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

TESTED :) WORKED, KINDA SLOW, almost like the browser wanted to choke,
but the image that i uploaded made it through just fine...

so i take the crash back, and say temporarily that it works, in
firefox...

what didnt work, was the ability to right click on an image that is in
the textarea and go to image properties... thats the only part that made
it crash in firefox for me.  just simply putting an image on the page,
and using the upload to make that happen, worked, just fine!

:) tw


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:55:50 -0500, Joe Rinehart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??
 
 -Joe
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:18:59 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  thank ya john...
 
  i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i 
  tested and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the

  file upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
 
  im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
 
  thanks.
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony,
  
   I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and 
   technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only

   tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is 
   handle the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes 
   an XML structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  
   That's why it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing 
   the look or anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to 
   figure out what the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds
strange...I don't know what the problem could be.
  
   John Burns
   Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web 
   Developer
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
  
   hi there.
  
   im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'
  
   any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for 
   the non-working file uploader that exists with the app?
  
   i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if 
   you have any experience with it, ket me know...
  
   thanks
  
   --
   tony
  
   Tony Weeg
  
   macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
   email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
   blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
   cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
  
  
 
 
 
 



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New CF Server hardware???

2005-01-11 Thread Dick Applebaum
Apple announced a headless/keyboardless/mouseless  computer (avail Jan 
22) that can run OS X and could easily run a CFMX BD or Railo server 
for the SOHO or small business.

there are several configurations available-- starting at $499.

http://www.apple.com/

Follow the link for Mac mini

Be sure to avoid getting sidetracked by the $99 iPod shuffle (about the 
size of a pack of gum)

HTH

Dick


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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Joe Rinehart
IANAL, but you should be able to distribute it with your CFM as long
as you include the license and the FCKEditor source code.  You may
want to LGPL your own work for it as well, as I believes it gives you
some warranty protection.  Of course, IANAL.

Either way, e-mail the zip off-list, would ya? :)

-joe


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:18:46 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so, can i wrap it up into a little set of files, that work with cfm,
 with no changes but a setup file?
 
 shit, if its that big of a deal, i just wrap it up for myself, put it
 on my shelf at home, and use it when i need to ;)
 
 tw
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:08:43 -0500, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey Tony,
 
  It's actually L(esser)GPL, which is more lax than the full-blown GPL:
 
  http://www.opensource.org/licenses/lgpl-license.php
 
  A closed-source, commercial app can use a LGPL library  in its
  software (as long as they include the library's source or make a way
  to get source), but the app can't be a work based on the library.
 
  There's sure to be a better explanation of it than what I just gave out 
  there.
 
  -Joe
 
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:52:45 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   im thinking about packaging all of it up, into an html page creator,
   etc... shouldnt be too too hard, and free, since every bit of its GPL,
   right?
  
   can i do that, as long as i give credit where credit is due, and not
   sell it for a price... right?
  
   tw
  
   On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:42:17 -0500, Burns, John D
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cool, I'd be anxious to see since I'm using FCK as well.  I haven't
noticed any problems yet on my end though.
   
   
John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
   
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
   
thank ya john...
   
i was talkin with joe rinehart last night, and it appears, and i tested
and it works now, that there are just some mods needed in the file
upload thingie with fckedit that makes it work just fine ;)
   
im going to blog them when i get my blog back up.
   
thanks.
tw
   
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:43:07 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony,

 I looked into the image upload thing for the FCKEditor and
 technically, it wouldn't be that hard to write your own.  The only
 tricky thing is that the only thing that the CFM part does is handle
 the upload, query the directories, etc. but then it passes an XML
 structure back to the html page that fckeditor includes.  That's why
 it's easy to plug in CFM, ASP, etc. without changing the look or
 anything.  It's a neat idea, but took me a while to figure out what
 the heck was going on.  Your problem sounds strange...I don't know
what the problem could be.

 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web
 Developer

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

 hi there.

 im using fckEditor, and the file upload piece is trippin'

 any idea if CFFM from Rick Root, works well as a replacement for the
 non-working file uploader that exists with the app?

 i know if its not working, ANYTHING is better, just wondering if you
 have any experience with it, ket me know...

 thanks

 --
 tony

 Tony Weeg

 macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
 email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
 blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
 cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com


   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Watts
 Flash Lite does indeed work on PocketPC. It's pretty sweet, but
 PocketPCs aren't really cellphones.

Actually, I don't think Flash Lite itself works on Pocket PCs, which have a
full version of Flash Player 6 available.

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Joe Rinehart
You should be able to distribute it with your CFM as long
as you include the license and the FCKEditor source code.  You may
want to LGPL your own work for it as well, as I believes it gives you
some warranty protection.  Of course, IANAL.

Either way, e-mail the zip off-list, would ya? :)

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Re: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread Adrocknaphobia
You what bothers me about MM? Nothin. Well except Generator, and I
swore a blood oath to hold that against them for atleast a decade.

Outside of that.. DW is fine. You know its the skills that make a
developer, not the IDE.  Seriously... how long are you going to
continue to use an IDE that was written in Delphi? New trick old dog?
Too comfy?

Flex is priced just right, and when all you kids started ranting about
the cost, they allowed you to get developer version for free.

They turned CF into an Enterprise application server when it was was
gettting very close to becoming legacy keeping your butts employed.

Breeze rocks. Period.

Flash is nice.

JRun is pretty a good J2EE server (for the cost).

Yeah! Whats goin' on Captivate! Your little brother RoboDemo sucked,
but you make Camtasia look like a little girly man.

Umm... am I forgeting anyone in my call out?

Oh yeah.. Contribute and Flash paper... v1 not so good WPS... hott!

Actually the only thing I hate about MM is those god darn dataDirect
drivers for Oracle. Single handly ruining my day.. every damn day.
Damn you dataDirect.. damn you straight to...


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:44:52 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish that RDS allowed user accounts or something like that for greater
 flexibility.  However, I do agree with Dave Watts that anything that
 allows HTTP modification of files on my server makes me leary.  I
 wouldn't allow something like that on a production box, though on
 development it would be nice to have additional flexibility.
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
 Yea, I wish that sandbox could be used in conjunction with RDS... didn't
 it used to?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
 Agreed. We don't let anyone touch the production boxes at all. They get
 synced by an admin from test.
 
 One thing RDS does that WebDav doesn't (afaik) is expose every
 datasource on the box to every user, regardless of sandboxing. That's
 why RDS is disabled on all of our shared boxes (dev, test and prod).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 4:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
  I didn't think that RDS was for production systems?
 
 It isn't. Neither is WebDAV, in my opinion. I'm reluctant to allow
 people to edit files via HTTP on production systems in general.
 
 

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RE: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
I don't know exactly what it is you want.  All of the core files are
just straight from FCKEditor 2.0(RC2).  I can probably set up a test
page or something that I can send you to and see if it works and then
send you whatever files you want. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Joe Rinehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

John, would you be able to send me a copy of what you have?  I get JS
errors whenever I use the link/image browser/uploader in Firefox.

Thanks,

Joe



On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:08:24 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's weird, I don't have any trouble using Firefox with mine.
 
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web 
 Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:07 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
 ive just tried it, and basically it just FROZE the browser testing

 isnt going well :(
 
 tw
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:04:21 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  nope :(
 
  i dont code for that browser, all my apps are 100% internal use for 
  my
 
  clients only, therefore i can dictate the browser used :)
 
  tw
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:55:50 -0500, Joe Rinehart
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tony, did you get it to work in Firefox!??
  
   -Joe
 
 
 



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Reset the 6.1 Developer Edition IP address

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Small
I know it's in the archive, but I haven't been able to find it.  Help,
please?

Thank you,
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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Adrocknaphobia
John:
Nope wast me, I just wrote all for myself, and for the previous version.

Tony:
Well you obviously must not know what you are doing (reference 3 weeks
ago thread title my dad loves firefox) :)

-Adam


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:03:11 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony,
 
 I'm not sure.  You might want to email Fred and see what he says.
 He seems to be an easy going guy so he may agree with you, but you never
 know :-)
 
 
 Adam, I know I changed up the CFM connector some to make it work off of
 session variables so each client that logs into our management site
 would only see the images for their site and I could specify on the fly
 where files get stored.  I was wondering who wrote that :-) I emailed
 him to get details on what needed to be built and he said someone else
 was already building it...so it seems you beat me to it :-)
 
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
 Jeah... I really like the F$cK editor that is until my end users
 used it. Now it's the only complaints / bugs I hear about. Cept I have
 the opposite problems with it, the only thing that work well is the
 Image Manager... which I wrote.
 
 -Adam
 
 

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sharing sessions across domains

2005-01-11 Thread Bert Dawson
I have 2 domains pointing at the same 2 web sites which in turn point
to the same CF codebase (win2k, iis6, cf6.1 enterprise with updater):
eg: www.mysite_en.com and www.mysite_de.com

Currently i can share my session between the 2 sites by passing the
cfid and cftoken in the URL when i link from one site to the other.

However, we're (probably)  going to move to clustering (multiple CF
instances on a single server) using sticky sessions, and as far as i
understand this means i'll need to start using J2EE session variables.
But when try passing the jsessionid to the other site it doesn't use
it, but rather sets a new cookie.jsessionid. Even if i manually set it
using cfcookie name='jsessionid' value='#url.jsessionid#'

So, the question: is it possible to have a single user/browser session
accessing the same J2EE session from 2 different domains on 2 separate
web sites running on the same server?
And if so, how?

TIA
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Re: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Flex is priced just right, and when all you kids started
 ranting about
 the cost, they allowed you to get developer version for
 free.

 They turned CF into an Enterprise application server when
 it was was
 gettting very close to becoming legacy keeping your butts
 employed.

 Breeze rocks. Period.

 Flash is nice.

 JRun is pretty a good J2EE server (for the cost).

 Yeah! Whats goin' on Captivate! Your little brother
 RoboDemo sucked,
 but you make Camtasia look like a little girly man.

 Umm... am I forgeting anyone in my call out?

Central  Director


s. isaac dealey   954.927.5117
new epoch : isn't it time for a change?

add features without fixtures with
the onTap open source framework

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RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread Burns, John D
Only Adam could talk to Macromedia products as if they lived in
Southeast DC :-)  


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

You what bothers me about MM? Nothin. Well except Generator, and I swore
a blood oath to hold that against them for atleast a decade.

Outside of that.. DW is fine. You know its the skills that make a
developer, not the IDE.  Seriously... how long are you going to continue
to use an IDE that was written in Delphi? New trick old dog?
Too comfy?

Flex is priced just right, and when all you kids started ranting about
the cost, they allowed you to get developer version for free.

They turned CF into an Enterprise application server when it was was
gettting very close to becoming legacy keeping your butts employed.

Breeze rocks. Period.

Flash is nice.

JRun is pretty a good J2EE server (for the cost).

Yeah! Whats goin' on Captivate! Your little brother RoboDemo sucked, but
you make Camtasia look like a little girly man.

Umm... am I forgeting anyone in my call out?

Oh yeah.. Contribute and Flash paper... v1 not so good WPS... hott!

Actually the only thing I hate about MM is those god darn dataDirect
drivers for Oracle. Single handly ruining my day.. every damn day.
Damn you dataDirect.. damn you straight to...


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:44:52 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish that RDS allowed user accounts or something like that for 
 greater flexibility.  However, I do agree with Dave Watts that 
 anything that allows HTTP modification of files on my server makes me 
 leary.  I wouldn't allow something like that on a production box, 
 though on development it would be nice to have additional flexibility.
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web 
 Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
 Yea, I wish that sandbox could be used in conjunction with RDS... 
 didn't it used to?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
 Agreed. We don't let anyone touch the production boxes at all. They 
 get synced by an admin from test.
 
 One thing RDS does that WebDav doesn't (afaik) is expose every 
 datasource on the box to every user, regardless of sandboxing. That's 
 why RDS is disabled on all of our shared boxes (dev, test and prod).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 4:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
  I didn't think that RDS was for production systems?
 
 It isn't. Neither is WebDAV, in my opinion. I'm reluctant to allow 
 people to edit files via HTTP on production systems in general.
 
 



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Re: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Thats the precise problem. When you take a look at all the Flash
enabled devices out there, you end up having to develop for about 5
different flash player versions, not to mention throwing flashcast in
the mix. If MM is serious about this market, they should stick to a
single player... preferably one not based on Flash 4 syntax.

Is there even a version of flash for j2me?

-Adam


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:39:54 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Flash Lite does indeed work on PocketPC. It's pretty sweet, but
  PocketPCs aren't really cellphones.
 
 Actually, I don't think Flash Lite itself works on Pocket PCs, which have a
 full version of Flash Player 6 available.
 
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Re: Reset the 6.1 Developer Edition IP address

2005-01-11 Thread Howard Fore
Stop and start the server?


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:37:37 -0500, Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know it's in the archive, but I haven't been able to find it.  Help,
 please?

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RE: Reset the 6.1 Developer Edition IP address

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Small
Sorry, I just realized that myself.  I seem to remember from some time ago
that there's a way to do it without stop/start.  I was thinking that was the
only way.

Thank you for your help on my brain fart.  I just got out of a crazy
meeting.

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Howard Fore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Reset the 6.1 Developer Edition IP address

Stop and start the server?


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:37:37 -0500, Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know it's in the archive, but I haven't been able to find it.  Help,
 please?

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Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)

2005-01-11 Thread Tony Weeg
i havent a clue, and thats fine... thats why i have geeks like you ;)

tw

btw: sup dog!


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:38:13 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John:
 Nope wast me, I just wrote all for myself, and for the previous version.
 
 Tony:
 Well you obviously must not know what you are doing (reference 3 weeks
 ago thread title my dad loves firefox) :)
 
 -Adam
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:03:11 -0500, Burns, John D
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tony,
 
  I'm not sure.  You might want to email Fred and see what he says.
  He seems to be an easy going guy so he may agree with you, but you never
  know :-)
 
 
  Adam, I know I changed up the CFM connector some to make it work off of
  session variables so each client that logs into our management site
  would only see the images for their site and I could specify on the fly
  where files get stored.  I was wondering who wrote that :-) I emailed
  him to get details on what needed to be built and he said someone else
  was already building it...so it seems you beat me to it :-)
 
 
  John Burns
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
  AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:59 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFFM + FCKEditor (good stuff?)
 
  Jeah... I really like the F$cK editor that is until my end users
  used it. Now it's the only complaints / bugs I hear about. Cept I have
  the opposite problems with it, the only thing that work well is the
  Image Manager... which I wrote.
 
  -Adam
 
 
 
 

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RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

2005-01-11 Thread Calvin Ward
I disagree on pricing for Flex... 12,000 per server for presentation layer
only is nuts!

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia

You what bothers me about MM? Nothin. Well except Generator, and I
swore a blood oath to hold that against them for atleast a decade.

Outside of that.. DW is fine. You know its the skills that make a
developer, not the IDE.  Seriously... how long are you going to
continue to use an IDE that was written in Delphi? New trick old dog?
Too comfy?

Flex is priced just right, and when all you kids started ranting about
the cost, they allowed you to get developer version for free.

They turned CF into an Enterprise application server when it was was
gettting very close to becoming legacy keeping your butts employed.

Breeze rocks. Period.

Flash is nice.

JRun is pretty a good J2EE server (for the cost).

Yeah! Whats goin' on Captivate! Your little brother RoboDemo sucked,
but you make Camtasia look like a little girly man.

Umm... am I forgeting anyone in my call out?

Oh yeah.. Contribute and Flash paper... v1 not so good WPS... hott!

Actually the only thing I hate about MM is those god darn dataDirect
drivers for Oracle. Single handly ruining my day.. every damn day.
Damn you dataDirect.. damn you straight to...


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:44:52 -0500, Burns, John D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish that RDS allowed user accounts or something like that for greater
 flexibility.  However, I do agree with Dave Watts that anything that
 allows HTTP modification of files on my server makes me leary.  I
 wouldn't allow something like that on a production box, though on
 development it would be nice to have additional flexibility.
 
 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
 Yea, I wish that sandbox could be used in conjunction with RDS... didn't
 it used to?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
 Agreed. We don't let anyone touch the production boxes at all. They get
 synced by an admin from test.
 
 One thing RDS does that WebDav doesn't (afaik) is expose every
 datasource on the box to every user, regardless of sandboxing. That's
 why RDS is disabled on all of our shared boxes (dev, test and prod).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 4:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia
 
  I didn't think that RDS was for production systems?
 
 It isn't. Neither is WebDAV, in my opinion. I'm reluctant to allow
 people to edit files via HTTP on production systems in general.
 
 



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Debugging Server Hangs

2005-01-11 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
What does everyone do about tracking down pages/code that cause the cf
server to slow down or hang and you are left with restarting the
services/ machine to solve it?

 

Every once in a while our CF server comes to a crawl or get a JRUN
closed connection error.   Looking in the log files doesn't give too
much information.  Wouldn't it be nice if there was a CF Profiler like
the SQL Server SQL Profiler to see what code was being processed and
such?

 

What does everyone else do about this?  

 

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RE: Debugging Server Hangs

2005-01-11 Thread Mike Nicholls
I find that stack traces are invaluable for this sort of debugging.

See http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18339
for details, it tells you how to generate and interpret them.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2005 9:06 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Debugging Server Hangs

What does everyone do about tracking down pages/code that cause the cf
server to slow down or hang and you are left with restarting the
services/ machine to solve it?

 

Every once in a while our CF server comes to a crawl or get a JRUN
closed connection error.   Looking in the log files doesn't give too
much information.  Wouldn't it be nice if there was a CF Profiler like
the SQL Server SQL Profiler to see what code was being processed and
such?

 

What does everyone else do about this?  

 

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Re: How to add images to my db the *right* way?

2005-01-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
she said she might want up to three images per item

Yep, but aren't clients notorious for saying Wait, I meant five!?



Yes indeed! I'm going to turn this into an array, then insert it. Might need 
some help looping it into the table.   :)

I've only practiced with simple arrays, never really had a use for them until 
now. 

Thanks,
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Re: How to add images to my db the *right* way?

2005-01-11 Thread Joe Rinehart
cfset ImageArray = arrayNew(1) /
cfset ImageArray[1] = someGif.gif /
cfset ImageArray[2] = someJpg.jpg /

cfloop from=1 to=#arrayLen(ImageArray)# index=i
cfquery datasource=#dsn#
INSERT INTO images (filename)
VALUES (cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#ImageArray[i]#)
/cfquery
/cfloop

-Joe


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:21:59 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 she said she might want up to three images per item
 
 Yep, but aren't clients notorious for saying Wait, I meant five!?
 
 
 
 Yes indeed! I'm going to turn this into an array, then insert it. Might need 
 some help looping it into the table.   :)
 
 I've only practiced with simple arrays, never really had a use for them until 
 now.
 
 Thanks,
 Will
 
 

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Dynamic CF PDFs

2005-01-11 Thread Phill B
I need CF to create a pdf. I need something that doesn't have a major
learning curve, can handle most HTML, doesn't cost grand and I can
everything up and running in a week. Am I asking to much?

I already have activePDF Toolkit but I'm not sure how to use it. :-\ 
I've also looked at  CFX PDF and PD4ML but I'm not sure about either
of these.

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Re: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Jeff Small
 Flash Lite does indeed work on PocketPC. It's pretty sweet, but
 PocketPCs aren't really cellphones.

 Actually, I don't think Flash Lite itself works on Pocket PCs, which have 
 a
 full version of Flash Player 6 available.

Yeah, you're right. I just did About... and it says Macromedia Flash 
Player 6.0 and to be more precise, it's 6,0,82,0.

I just got the PocketPC for Christmas...I'm still getting used to it. The 
whole reason I wanted it was because of Max and all the mobile stuffI 
guess I drank a little of the mobile kool-aid last November...lol.

If you've got 802.11 and Flash 6...can't you theoretically do remoting 
stuff? Has anyone played around with Flash remoting on a handheld? 



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RE: Connecting CFMX to MSDE SQL Server

2005-01-11 Thread Yexley Robert D Contr AFRL/PROE
I'm pretty sure that MSDE defaults to installing using Windows authentication 
only. You'll probably need to change the security mode (securitymode=0) so that 
it supports mixed-mode authentication, which will allow SQL authentication, 
rather than windows authentication before connection using the sa account will 
work. 



// YEX //


-Original Message-
From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Connecting CFMX to MSDE SQL Server

I installed MSDE Sql Server and CFMX Developer Edition onto a laptop to use for 
a demo of a CF app at a location where we can't get internet access.  Once I 
installed MSDE Sql Server, I connected to it using Enterprise Manager that is 
on the laptop and that worked fine.  However, when I set up a datasource in 
CFMX using the sa account, it fails to connect with the following error message:
 
Connection verification failed for data source: test
[]java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing 
socket. Connection refused: connect The root cause was that: 
java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing 
socket. Connection Refused: connect
 
I checked and the sa password is correct and it's the exact same one I'm using 
when I register the enterprise manager instance.  Anyone have experience with 
this or anything?  I know the Desktop Engine is supposed to be more for a 
bundled application sort of thing so I'm wondering if there's some sort of 
limitation involved that won't let me connect or if there's something else that 
I need to do.  If this won't work, would the SQL Server Developer Edition work 
better?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer
 




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Re: How to add images to my db the *right* way?

2005-01-11 Thread dave
u dont need to loop just check to see if the file field is empty if not do the 
upload
but be aware that u can only have 1 file.serverfile so be sure to set it before 
moving on to next one



!--- do the file 1 upload now ---
cfif #form.picture1# NEQ 
cffile Action=upload 
filefield=picture1 
destination=#upload# 
nameconflict=makeunique 
accept=image/*
cfset picture1 = #file.serverfile#
/cfif

!--- do the file 2 upload now ---
cfif #form.picture2# NEQ 
cffile Action=upload 
filefield=picture2 
destination=#upload# 
nameconflict=makeunique 
accept=image/*
cfset picture2 = #file.serverfile#
/cfif

!--- do the file 3 upload now ---
cfif #form.picture3# NEQ 
cffile Action=upload 
filefield=picture3 
destination=#upload# 
nameconflict=makeunique 
accept=image/*
cfset picture3 = #file.serverfile#
/cfif


-- Original Message --
From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date:  Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:21:59 -0400

she said she might want up to three images per item

Yep, but aren't clients notorious for saying Wait, I meant five!?



Yes indeed! I'm going to turn this into an array, then insert it. Might need 
some help looping it into the table.   :)

I've only practiced with simple arrays, never really had a use for them until 
now. 

Thanks,
Will



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Preventing password sharing on a membership site

2005-01-11 Thread muzl hed
I have a client with a paid membership site who recently saw a member post 
their login information on a public news group.

 

Anybody have a suggestion as to how to stop people from sharing passwords? Is 
there a practical way to prevent multiple people from logging in with the same 
username/password simultaneously? Any best practices advice would certainly be 
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Re: How to add images to my db the *right* way?

2005-01-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
cfset ImageArray = arrayNew(1) /
cfset ImageArray[1] = someGif.gif /
cfset ImageArray[2] = someJpg.jpg /

cfloop from=1 to=#arrayLen(ImageArray)# index=i
cfquery datasource=#dsn#
INSERT INTO images (filename)
VALUES (cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#ImageArray[i]#)
/cfquery
/cfloop

I've decided to create a makeimageprimary field in the table. It'll be a y- n 
value. How would I loop through a 2d array insert into the table? 

I'm going to give this a shot shortly. Thanks so much Joe!

Will let you know how it comes out. 

Will


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Re: Dynamic CF PDFs

2005-01-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
HTML2PDF3

custom tagSUPER simpleinstall something on the server.wrap the 
HTML you want to be the PDF in the tagrun the page...presto 
changoyou have a PDF ;-)

Cheers

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VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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- Original Message - 
From: Phill B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: Dynamic CF PDFs


I need CF to create a pdf. I need something that doesn't have a major
 learning curve, can handle most HTML, doesn't cost grand and I can
 everything up and running in a week. Am I asking to much?

 I already have activePDF Toolkit but I'm not sure how to use it. :-\
 I've also looked at  CFX PDF and PD4ML but I'm not sure about either
 of these.

 -- 
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Re: cell phone app development

2005-01-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
One thing I wonder about Flash Lite is wheteher it will have low level 
control of the other hardware on the phones??

I'm talking about (from inside the Flash Lite App)fire up the 
camera...take a pic...take some more pics...mabye enter some 
captionsfire up the voice recorderrecord and store some voice 
memos.fire up an HTTP connection.dump the pics and voice to a 
central server.

My moderate understanding of Flash is that this kind of control (except for 
the HTTP connection) is not possible

I can see Java having these abilitiesnot sure if a Java/Flash combo app 
could be built??

Thoughts?

Cheers

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VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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fax: 250.480.1264
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