Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse
Ah, I was wondering just the other day what you guys were up to ! It'd gone a bit quiet on the releases front... we have (I have?) been busy adding features to CFEclipse, such as editing tags, drag and drop support, Dictionary view, and a new Component Explorer. More is on its way, but quiet doesnt mean that we havent been busy! I shall also be presenting the RDS plugin for eclipse by Adobe which should be interesting too! *OMG* Its a pretty good and I must say, damn fast plugin. Cant wait till its released into the *wild* MD ] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233847 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse
We like CFEclipse. =) Blatently promote all you want! Good good! Unfortunately, we won't be in England any time soon, but we wish you all the best! Thanks for that Jordan! I shall be recording the audio so I shall try and put together some kind of presentation by mixing screen capture later on over the audio. Stay tuned! MD ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233848 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Stored Procedures and when to use them
No benefit really. Not in this instance. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March 2006 21:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Stored Procedures and when to use them Hi guys, I am just getting my head around stored procedures in SQL Server. One of the things I am trying to understand is when I should be using them. For example, on my clients homepage I wish to pull 2 random product records... cfquery name=getRandomProducts datasource=#Request.App.dsn# password=#Request.App.DBpassword# username=#Request.App.DBusername# SELECT TOP 2 products.product_id, products.product_code, products.product_price, products.product_price_sale, products_description.product_title FROM products INNER JOIN products_description ON products.product_id = products_description.product_id WHERE products.product_status = 1 AND products.product_display = 1 ORDER BY newid() /cfquery Is there any advantage having this type of query in a SP over calling a simple CFC ?? Also, if anyone has any good references for me to check out... mike ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233849 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Stored Procedures and when to use them
Sprocs are faster if you are doing multiple things in 1 call. The idea is you are in the database already so go ahead and let the database do what it does best. For general selects, inserts, updates, and deletes keeping it in the app is fine. It does come down to personal preference though. I used to use them all of the time because the dba would spit them out. Well, I built a cfc generator that created my cfc's with all of the crud I need (and even grabs a view if it is named vMyTable [table name with v in front of it]) which makes updates way faster. Before I had to update the sproc, cfc(s), and calls to cfcs if I made 1 change to my table. Now I just run my generator again if I make any table changes. So, for me...I'm done with sprocs unless there is some sort of mid to major processing I need done (cursors, etc). On 3/2/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No benefit really. Not in this instance. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March 2006 21:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Stored Procedures and when to use them Hi guys, I am just getting my head around stored procedures in SQL Server. One of the things I am trying to understand is when I should be using them. For example, on my clients homepage I wish to pull 2 random product records... cfquery name=getRandomProducts datasource=#Request.App.dsn# password=#Request.App.DBpassword# username=#Request.App.DBusername# SELECT TOP 2 products.product_id, products.product_code, products.product_price, products.product_price_sale, products_description.product_title FROM products INNER JOIN products_description ON products.product_id = products_description.product_id WHERE products.product_status = 1 AND products.product_display = 1 ORDER BY newid() /cfquery Is there any advantage having this type of query in a SP over calling a simple CFC ?? Also, if anyone has any good references for me to check out... mike ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233850 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Stored Procedures and when to use them
They are not faster all the time with heavy processing as CF is not so good at waiting on long running requests. I would avoid cursors on nearly all occasions and use CF - in these cases CF will no doubt be faster...on the flip side if you are dealing with many thousands of records an SP/DTS may be your vice as CF will choke on large sets like this. -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 10:15 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Stored Procedures and when to use them Sprocs are faster if you are doing multiple things in 1 call. The idea is you are in the database already so go ahead and let the database do what it does best. For general selects, inserts, updates, and deletes keeping it in the app is fine. It does come down to personal preference though. I used to use them all of the time because the dba would spit them out. Well, I built a cfc generator that created my cfc's with all of the crud I need (and even grabs a view if it is named vMyTable [table name with v in front of it]) which makes updates way faster. Before I had to update the sproc, cfc(s), and calls to cfcs if I made 1 change to my table. Now I just run my generator again if I make any table changes. So, for me...I'm done with sprocs unless there is some sort of mid to major processing I need done (cursors, etc). On 3/2/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No benefit really. Not in this instance. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March 2006 21:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Stored Procedures and when to use them Hi guys, I am just getting my head around stored procedures in SQL Server. One of the things I am trying to understand is when I should be using them. For example, on my clients homepage I wish to pull 2 random product records... cfquery name=getRandomProducts datasource=#Request.App.dsn# password=#Request.App.DBpassword# username=#Request.App.DBusername# SELECT TOP 2 products.product_id, products.product_code, products.product_price, products.product_price_sale, products_description.product_title FROM products INNER JOIN products_description ON products.product_id = products_description.product_id WHERE products.product_status = 1 AND products.product_display = 1 ORDER BY newid() /cfquery Is there any advantage having this type of query in a SP over calling a simple CFC ?? Also, if anyone has any good references for me to check out... mike ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233851 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Stored Procedures and when to use them
Yeah, I mean definite major processing where using a cursor was just an example of when processing can get heavy, pending number of records and what you're doing with the data. Calling the database, looping results (in cf), calling the database again for whatever reason, looping results (in cf), then displaying filtered data would be a terrible way to do it. Obviously this is a made up situation but I think you understand my point. On 3/2/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are not faster all the time with heavy processing as CF is not so good at waiting on long running requests. I would avoid cursors on nearly all occasions and use CF - in these cases CF will no doubt be faster...on the flip side if you are dealing with many thousands of records an SP/DTS may be your vice as CF will choke on large sets like this. -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 10:15 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Stored Procedures and when to use them Sprocs are faster if you are doing multiple things in 1 call. The idea is you are in the database already so go ahead and let the database do what it does best. For general selects, inserts, updates, and deletes keeping it in the app is fine. It does come down to personal preference though. I used to use them all of the time because the dba would spit them out. Well, I built a cfc generator that created my cfc's with all of the crud I need (and even grabs a view if it is named vMyTable [table name with v in front of it]) which makes updates way faster. Before I had to update the sproc, cfc(s), and calls to cfcs if I made 1 change to my table. Now I just run my generator again if I make any table changes. So, for me...I'm done with sprocs unless there is some sort of mid to major processing I need done (cursors, etc). On 3/2/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No benefit really. Not in this instance. -Original Message- From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March 2006 21:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Stored Procedures and when to use them Hi guys, I am just getting my head around stored procedures in SQL Server. One of the things I am trying to understand is when I should be using them. For example, on my clients homepage I wish to pull 2 random product records... cfquery name=getRandomProducts datasource=#Request.App.dsn# password=#Request.App.DBpassword# username=#Request.App.DBusername# SELECT TOP 2 products.product_id, products.product_code, products.product_price, products.product_price_sale, products_description.product_title FROM products INNER JOIN products_description ON products.product_id = products_description.product_id WHERE products.product_status = 1 AND products.product_display = 1 ORDER BY newid() /cfquery Is there any advantage having this type of query in a SP over calling a simple CFC ?? Also, if anyone has any good references for me to check out... mike ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233852 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Host recommendations
Only issue I had with UpLinkEarth was the restriction Of CFFILE, CFDIRECTORY, CFCONTENT. You had to use their custom tag which was a pain for me. So I changed hostings. Sorry they offer CFMX7 not CF5. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Host recommendations I use uplinkearth.com and have had pretty good service over the past coupe of years. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Host recommendations Try www.IXwebhosting.com - they have good prices, good service - in fact the only thing I've found lacking was that they don't plan to move from CF5 anytime soon! -reed We need cf server 5, crytaltech does not offer it. Has anyone dealt with hosttone.com or have a cf 5 server recommendation. Thanks everyone Steve ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233853 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Stored Procedures and when to use them
One of the nice things about stored procedures wv. inline sql is that your database can tell you which procs are invalidated by a change to your schema, which can be a big time saver in development. /t ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233854 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Stored Procedures and when to use them
An example. I had a set of queries to delete an organisation from one table and then all the relative data in the database for that organisation. I wrote it originally in CF but it was taking about 2 minutes, and timing out, to procees. After putting the whole lot into a stored proc the execution time dropped to seconds. Basically the process was not feasible in CF so was a good candidate for stored proc. Although I am talking Oracle here with PL/SQL not MSSQL which maybe different. In fact it was a PL/SQL package of stored procs to be more precise. So that is when I would use it basically. Hi guys, I am just getting my head around stored procedures in SQL Server. One of the things I am trying to understand is when I should be using them. For example, on my clients homepage I wish to pull 2 random product records... cfquery name=getRandomProducts datasource=#Request.App.dsn# password=#Request.App.DBpassword# username=#Request.App.DBusername# SELECT TOP 2 products.product_id, products.product_code, products.product_price, products.product_price_sale, products_description.product_title FROM products INNER JOIN products_description ON products.product_id = products_description.product_id WHERE products.product_status = 1 AND products.product_display = 1 ORDER BY newid() /cfquery Is there any advantage having this type of query in a SP over calling a simple CFC ?? Also, if anyone has any good references for me to check out... mike ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233855 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Stored Procedures and when to use them
Yeah...intensive processes are a good application but that is not to say that CF could do the job as wellwithout seeing your code I meanthere may have been a better way to achieve the end result in CF to make it as fast. Each to their own I suppose... ;-) -Original Message- From: Martin Thorpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 10:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Stored Procedures and when to use them An example. I had a set of queries to delete an organisation from one table and then all the relative data in the database for that organisation. I wrote it originally in CF but it was taking about 2 minutes, and timing out, to procees. After putting the whole lot into a stored proc the execution time dropped to seconds. Basically the process was not feasible in CF so was a good candidate for stored proc. Although I am talking Oracle here with PL/SQL not MSSQL which maybe different. In fact it was a PL/SQL package of stored procs to be more precise. So that is when I would use it basically. Hi guys, I am just getting my head around stored procedures in SQL Server. One of the things I am trying to understand is when I should be using them. For example, on my clients homepage I wish to pull 2 random product records... cfquery name=getRandomProducts datasource=#Request.App.dsn# password=#Request.App.DBpassword# username=#Request.App.DBusername# SELECT TOP 2 products.product_id, products.product_code, products.product_price, products.product_price_sale, products_description.product_title FROM products INNER JOIN products_description ON products.product_id = products_description.product_id WHERE products.product_status = 1 AND products.product_display = 1 ORDER BY newid() /cfquery Is there any advantage having this type of query in a SP over calling a simple CFC ?? Also, if anyone has any good references for me to check out... mike ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233856 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse
On Thursday 02 March 2006 08:16, Mark Drew wrote: I shall be recording the audio so I shall try and put together some kind of presentation by mixing screen capture later on over the audio. That would *rock*, going all the way to London for a few hours of meeting is a bit of an ask for most people. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233857 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Stored Procedures and when to use them
From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any advantage having this type of query in a SP over calling a simple CFC ?? Mike, Stored Procedures were a good choice for me when I was working at a place that had two, top-notch DBAs who could really analyze some of the more complex queries/transactions and optimize them for us (the developers) without us having to constantly go into the code to make changes, etc. We used inline queries for simple select, update, and delete statements; and used SPs for the complex tasks. Fast forward to where I work now where we have no DBA(s), anymore. I have two big internal apps that made heavy use of SPs which wasn't a problem when the DBAs were here. Since having to assume the DBA role as well, using SPs became a royal pain in the ass due to having to update so many areas, both in the application and on the DB server, everytime a change was made or a fix was necessary. Tango ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233858 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse
Question is...will it still remain free? ;-p -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 11:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse On Thursday 02 March 2006 08:16, Mark Drew wrote: I shall be recording the audio so I shall try and put together some kind of presentation by mixing screen capture later on over the audio. That would *rock*, going all the way to London for a few hours of meeting is a bit of an ask for most people. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233859 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SEO Tools
On 3/2/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any resources as to what might incur a blacklisting? Straight from the horse's mouth: http://www.google.com/webmasters/ -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.zombiecoder.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233860 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse
No, I have decided to start charging for it. You can pay Mark Drew $500 a copy... Err.. not really... It will always be free. as long as I have an incentive to keep coding for it... *cough*amazon wish list *cough* MD On 2 Mar 2006, at 12:05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Question is...will it still remain free? ;-p -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 11:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse On Thursday 02 March 2006 08:16, Mark Drew wrote: I shall be recording the audio so I shall try and put together some kind of presentation by mixing screen capture later on over the audio. That would *rock*, going all the way to London for a few hours of meeting is a bit of an ask for most people. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233861 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse
Since we dont have an internet connection where we are presenting the CFUG I am just going to record it as a podcast but then later overlay the presentation as well (hopefully!) as doing screen capture of what I am presenting. MD On 2 Mar 2006, at 11:24, Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 08:16, Mark Drew wrote: I shall be recording the audio so I shall try and put together some kind of presentation by mixing screen capture later on over the audio. That would *rock*, going all the way to London for a few hours of meeting is a bit of an ask for most people. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233862 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse
;-) -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 12:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse No, I have decided to start charging for it. You can pay Mark Drew $500 a copy... Err.. not really... It will always be free. as long as I have an incentive to keep coding for it... *cough*amazon wish list *cough* MD On 2 Mar 2006, at 12:05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Question is...will it still remain free? ;-p -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 11:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse On Thursday 02 March 2006 08:16, Mark Drew wrote: I shall be recording the audio so I shall try and put together some kind of presentation by mixing screen capture later on over the audio. That would *rock*, going all the way to London for a few hours of meeting is a bit of an ask for most people. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233863 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Host recommendations
That will be because they run the cheaper Standard version of CF, we run the enterprise version and give all customers security sandboxes so that they can use almost all tags. Some hosts just allow the insecure tags anyway and don't worry about the security, so all customers can delete or copy each others files. But a lot of people just don't don't care or think about this, as long as they have CFFILE they don't consider the consequences of if it is not done securely. For anyone looking for a good host, here is a checklist of questions to ask them. http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk/index.cfm?action=aboutus Russ -Original Message- From: Coldfusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 10:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Host recommendations Only issue I had with UpLinkEarth was the restriction Of CFFILE, CFDIRECTORY, CFCONTENT. You had to use their custom tag which was a pain for me. So I changed hostings. Sorry they offer CFMX7 not CF5. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Host recommendations I use uplinkearth.com and have had pretty good service over the past coupe of years. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Host recommendations Try www.IXwebhosting.com - they have good prices, good service - in fact the only thing I've found lacking was that they don't plan to move from CF5 anytime soon! -reed We need cf server 5, crytaltech does not offer it. Has anyone dealt with hosttone.com or have a cf 5 server recommendation. Thanks everyone Steve ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233864 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
where can I download cf5-developer-edition
Hi, a customer is still running cf5 and I'm somtimes getting problems releasing some tools developed on a cfmx7-server.. (the last problems occured when dealing with soxml..) Does anybody know where I can get a copy of a developer-edition of a standard cf5-server? Maybe I made a backup myself and its anywhere on a cd in my large backup-case but I don't wanna search for it on every single cd.. thx -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233865 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
Matt, you da man. I have 2 new useful bookmarks! -Original Message- From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SEO Tools https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox - Original Message - From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: RE: SEO Tools Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an equivalent tool from Google? Thanks, Ché -Original Message- From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SEO Tools I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on the pages to match up with the keywords and titles. And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying to rank is actually worth spending the time on. This link you can also use in a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think wordtracker uses it. Could be wrong though. This seems to work fine for most of my sites. Matt Blatchley Bridgeleaf Studios LLC www.bridgeleaf.com - Original Message - From: Adkins, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: SEO Tools What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used and recommendations? TIA! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233866 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition
You wont get from the MM site as they do not support older version. I have a copy I could send you if you like. Russ -Original Message- From: Sebastian Mork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Hi, a customer is still running cf5 and I'm somtimes getting problems releasing some tools developed on a cfmx7-server.. (the last problems occured when dealing with soxml..) Does anybody know where I can get a copy of a developer-edition of a standard cf5-server? Maybe I made a backup myself and its anywhere on a cd in my large backup-case but I don't wanna search for it on every single cd.. thx -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233867 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Rick, A full version of studio is $800. A full version of Adobe creative suite is $1200. Upgrades of course are much less expensive. People are already working on alternatives using primalScript and ANT. For me, I have already set aside my $1000. Adobe's will be the best for sure and will be the only one with a visual design component similar to dreamweaver. And from what I have seen, it is quite useful. To each there own. Mark -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta It's hard for me to believe an IDE would be worth $1000 (oh, excuse, me $999, which is less than $1000 :P ) Most design software, whether it's for web design, as in Dreamweaver, photo manipulation, as in Photoshop, graphics, as in Illustrator, etc., is not even that much...most of it not anywhere near $1000 unless you get everything in a bundle. Perhaps I'm just showing my ignorance about the Flex IDE, but with it priced so high (I don't, at this point, see how it could possibly be worth that much money), it's wide open for a company with hungrier developers to come in and sell something for half that and take a lot of business from Adobe and Flex...what makes it worth $1000? Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233868 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
No problem...glad to help. Rick -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools Thanks Rick! I'll go check it out. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233869 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition
Yep, you can still get it from MM http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html#cf5downloads -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition You wont get from the MM site as they do not support older version. I have a copy I could send you if you like. Russ -Original Message- From: Sebastian Mork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Hi, a customer is still running cf5 and I'm somtimes getting problems releasing some tools developed on a cfmx7-server.. (the last problems occured when dealing with soxml..) Does anybody know where I can get a copy of a developer-edition of a standard cf5-server? Maybe I made a backup myself and its anywhere on a cd in my large backup-case but I don't wanna search for it on every single cd.. thx -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233870 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Compare data within 2 CFCs
Is there an easy way to compare the data within 2 CFCs? For example these 2
CFC instances contain different data:
CFC1=createObject('Customer').Read(ID=10)
CFC2=createObject('Customer').Read(ID=99)
Baz
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Re: where can I download cf5-developer-edition
Cool, thx I didn't find that.. -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:43:25 - Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, you can still get it from MM http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html#cf5downloads -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition You wont get from the MM site as they do not support older version. I have a copy I could send you if you like. Russ -Original Message- From: Sebastian Mork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Hi, a customer is still running cf5 and I'm somtimes getting problems releasing some tools developed on a cfmx7-server.. (the last problems occured when dealing with soxml..) Does anybody know where I can get a copy of a developer-edition of a standard cf5-server? Maybe I made a backup myself and its anywhere on a cd in my large backup-case but I don't wanna search for it on every single cd.. thx -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233872 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition
Amazing, that means Macromedia themselves don't even know they still provide a download, as they are the ones that told me that I cannot get a copy of CF5 ever under any circumstances a sthey no longer support it. Lets hope Adobe are not as Clueless. Russ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Yep, you can still get it from MM http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html#cf5downloads -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition You wont get from the MM site as they do not support older version. I have a copy I could send you if you like. Russ -Original Message- From: Sebastian Mork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Hi, a customer is still running cf5 and I'm somtimes getting problems releasing some tools developed on a cfmx7-server.. (the last problems occured when dealing with soxml..) Does anybody know where I can get a copy of a developer-edition of a standard cf5-server? Maybe I made a backup myself and its anywhere on a cd in my large backup-case but I don't wanna search for it on every single cd.. thx -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233873 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
Brian, before you go doing that, reread my email on this. I encountered this problem, and this solution, which I found months ago, worked. 1. Set up a System DSN on the machine to the database. 2. Set up the CF DSN using ODBC Socket as the driver. As long as the system DSN connects successfully to the database, this will work. thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 -Original Message- From: Brian Yager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work I've got both Named Pipes and TCP/IP enabled. The DB server is on the same machine as the CF Server. So Firewalls wouldn't be the problem. But just to make sure, I disabled Windows Firewall and it sitll didn't work. I think I am going to uninstall CF 7 and reinstall it to see if that makes a differenc. I am just clueless right now. Unfortunately, that did work. Here is the error I get back Connection verification failed for data source: calendar java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection refused: connect The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver]Error establishing socket. Connection refused: connect Are you sure you configured the server to listen on TCP/IP? Run the Server Network Utility, and make sure that TCP/IP is enabled; I suspect that you only have Named Pipes enabled. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233874 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
But Flex isn't C++ or Visual Studio, both of which have proved themselves over time. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Joe Rinehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Hey Rick, After using Flex Builder 2.0, I can't believe it's only $1,000. That's pretty dirt cheap in the world of enterprise software, much less development software - heck, one seat of Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite can be like $3.5k, and that's *cheap* compared to the price of some of the Borland modelling/development tools. -Joe On 3/1/06, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard for me to believe an IDE would be worth $1000 (oh, excuse, me $999, which is less than $1000 :P ) Most design software, whether it's for web design, as in Dreamweaver, photo manipulation, as in Photoshop, graphics, as in Illustrator, etc., is not even that much...most of it not anywhere near $1000 unless you get everything in a bundle. Perhaps I'm just showing my ignorance about the Flex IDE, but with it priced so high (I don't, at this point, see how it could possibly be worth that much money), it's wide open for a company with hungrier developers to come in and sell something for half that and take a lot of business from Adobe and Flex...what makes it worth $1000? Rick -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Wonder how long it will be before someone just writes their own IDE or plug in for Eclipse and offers it for free, much like CFEclipse. Or is there something legally preventing that from happening? According to Ben Forta, there is nothing legally to keep someone from doing exactly that. As Ben put it, it would be very difficult to reproduce the entirety of the functionality they have put in Flex builder and he thinks enough people will still continue to pay for Adobe's IDE because of those features for a while. I am very interested to see what free-ware versions will come about, however. ~Brad ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233875 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
I'll give a thorough check-out...thanks for the info, Mark. Rick -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Rick, A full version of studio is $800. A full version of Adobe creative suite is $1200. Upgrades of course are much less expensive. People are already working on alternatives using primalScript and ANT. For me, I have already set aside my $1000. Adobe's will be the best for sure and will be the only one with a visual design component similar to dreamweaver. And from what I have seen, it is quite useful. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233876 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
Setting up the machine to use ODBC is not a good option. It is much slower than the direct method. I would take off Named pipes. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233877 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
But if all else fails, it has one major advantage: it actually works. thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work Setting up the machine to use ODBC is not a good option. It is much slower than the direct method. I would take off Named pipes. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233878 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Mark... Just to be nitpicky...you can't compare full versions of Studio or CS because they each contain multiple programs, Studio has 5 and CS has 4. From what I've heard here, Flex is just...well...Flex. You're paying $1000 for one application. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Rick, A full version of studio is $800. A full version of Adobe creative suite is $1200. Upgrades of course are much less expensive. People are already working on alternatives using primalScript and ANT. For me, I have already set aside my $1000. Adobe's will be the best for sure and will be the only one with a visual design component similar to dreamweaver. And from what I have seen, it is quite useful. To each there own. Mark -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta It's hard for me to believe an IDE would be worth $1000 (oh, excuse, me $999, which is less than $1000 :P ) Most design software, whether it's for web design, as in Dreamweaver, photo manipulation, as in Photoshop, graphics, as in Illustrator, etc., is not even that much...most of it not anywhere near $1000 unless you get everything in a bundle. Perhaps I'm just showing my ignorance about the Flex IDE, but with it priced so high (I don't, at this point, see how it could possibly be worth that much money), it's wide open for a company with hungrier developers to come in and sell something for half that and take a lot of business from Adobe and Flex...what makes it worth $1000? Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233879 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Compare data within 2 CFCs
You would need a function that would return the ID. cffunction getID() cfreturn variables.id /cffunction Then you do a compare outside of the cfcs. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233880 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SEO Tools
Che, The IBP mentioned by ~Dave the disrupter~ also incorporates both of the links I sent out earlier in the downloaded version of their product. Although, it's not free to use, it does incorporate a lot of other useful tools. HTML validator, auto submission etc. Everything mentioned in this thread is also techniques that I use to make the site more relevant depending on which engine your targeting. I wouldn't concentrate too much on the smaller ones, only go for the Google and Yahoo to start out. The rest should follow suit if you get good rankings in these two. The other thing I've noticed in the past is the length of the domain renewal has a direct effect if you purchase the domain for say ten years instead of renewing it every year, it will make a difference by about 4 or 5 places in the listings (that might have changed though, but it did make a difference in my experience). Also if you have multiple relevant sub-sites of your own that point back to the main governing site, it will build link weight and more relevancy. Placed inside the content of one of the subsites you could add keywords/phrases that are linked to other pages in the main site describing more information about a subject while packing in that keyword a few times. The other thing is to make the title of the page have the keyword and name of the file contain the keyword. Relevant content is the key, not flashy intros and sites packed with images. But you need to also account for how new the subsites are and how long they have been around which goes back to what Josh had mentioned earlier. Seniority does take priority in my experience, but if you rank the site well, it will still take less time to get on the first page. You might also want to make the additional sub-sites hosted in separate parts of the country, or hosted with two different providers, this way you'll have two different site from two sides of the country talking about the same relevant site and linked together by matching keywords and headers. Basically, create an infrastructure that makes the main site the governing body or authority on the subject your promoting, while still applying all the other SEO rules you've read about in the rest of this thread. There is no need to fool the search engines if you building a huge infrastructure of sites, but it can cost a lot more $$ and take longer to build. So I guess it would really depend on your products or services and how much your ROI is compared to the time and desire to rank higher. Matt - Original Message - From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: RE: SEO Tools Matt, you da man. I have 2 new useful bookmarks! -Original Message- From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SEO Tools https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox - Original Message - From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: RE: SEO Tools Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an equivalent tool from Google? Thanks, Ché -Original Message- From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SEO Tools I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on the pages to match up with the keywords and titles. And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying to rank is actually worth spending the time on. This link you can also use in a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think wordtracker uses it. Could be wrong though. This seems to work fine for most of my sites. Matt Blatchley Bridgeleaf Studios LLC www.bridgeleaf.com - Original Message - From: Adkins, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: SEO Tools What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used and recommendations? TIA! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233881 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Rick, You need to see what Flex Builder does. If Ben makes it to an Users Group near you go see the presentation. I am pretty old fashioned, I don't use many visual tools unless I have to, so I still develop in Homesite and Eclipse but after seeing Flex Builder 2 I am now a big fan and starting to put aside cash for this. You will have to code the actions for the interface but things that would take a flash developer hours or days to do you can now do in minutes. Visit labs.adobe.com and download the beta and you too will become a believer! ;-) -- Donnie Bachan Website: http://www.que7.com Nitendo Vinces - By Striving You Shall Conquer == The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233882 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Compare data within 2 CFCs
From: Baz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there an easy way to compare the data within 2 CFCs? For
example these 2 CFC instances contain different data:
CFC1=createObject('Customer').Read(ID=10)
CFC2=createObject('Customer').Read(ID=99)
Provide a method in the Customer CFC that returns the instance data
(getInstance()). Then use this UDF to see the differences:
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=1136
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RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition
jerkChain user=Snake Every time someone asks for an old version of CF, (usually 5 of course) someone comes along and says You can't get it from MM then someone else comes along with the link to it at MM. I've seen and remembered it coming across the list quite a few times without even being part of the thread... Now who's clueless? ;-) /jerkChain ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Amazing, that means Macromedia themselves don't even know they still provide a download, as they are the ones that told me that I cannot get a copy of CF5 ever under any circumstances a sthey no longer support it. Lets hope Adobe are not as Clueless. Russ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Yep, you can still get it from MM http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html#cf5downloads -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: where can I download cf5-developer-edition You wont get from the MM site as they do not support older version. I have a copy I could send you if you like. Russ -Original Message- From: Sebastian Mork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: where can I download cf5-developer-edition Hi, a customer is still running cf5 and I'm somtimes getting problems releasing some tools developed on a cfmx7-server.. (the last problems occured when dealing with soxml..) Does anybody know where I can get a copy of a developer-edition of a standard cf5-server? Maybe I made a backup myself and its anywhere on a cd in my large backup-case but I don't wanna search for it on every single cd.. thx -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233884 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
It does seem expensive, especially given that from what I understand its basically a plugin for an open source program? Have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick here, is it more than that? On 3/2/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark... Just to be nitpicky...you can't compare full versions of Studio or CS because they each contain multiple programs, Studio has 5 and CS has 4. From what I've heard here, Flex is just...well...Flex. You're paying $1000 for one application. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Rick, A full version of studio is $800. A full version of Adobe creative suite is $1200. Upgrades of course are much less expensive. People are already working on alternatives using primalScript and ANT. For me, I have already set aside my $1000. Adobe's will be the best for sure and will be the only one with a visual design component similar to dreamweaver. And from what I have seen, it is quite useful. To each there own. Mark -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta It's hard for me to believe an IDE would be worth $1000 (oh, excuse, me $999, which is less than $1000 :P ) Most design software, whether it's for web design, as in Dreamweaver, photo manipulation, as in Photoshop, graphics, as in Illustrator, etc., is not even that much...most of it not anywhere near $1000 unless you get everything in a bundle. Perhaps I'm just showing my ignorance about the Flex IDE, but with it priced so high (I don't, at this point, see how it could possibly be worth that much money), it's wide open for a company with hungrier developers to come in and sell something for half that and take a lot of business from Adobe and Flex...what makes it worth $1000? Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233885 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Compare data within 2 CFCs
Thanks Bob but that wouldn't work in this case:
CFC1=createObject('Customer').Read(ID=10)
CFC2=duplicate(CFC1)
CFC2.setName('kakapipi')
I was thinking of perhaps some hash type function that would convert each
CFC into some 64-bit string that you could compare. Perhaps invoked like
this: isDuplicateCFC(CFC1,CFC2)
Baz
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You would need a function that would return the ID.
cffunction getID()
cfreturn variables.id
/cffunction
Then you do a compare outside of the cfcs.
Bob
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Re: onRequestStart question.....
Maybe something like: cfset variables.fileExclusionList = myFile1.cfm, myFile2.cfm, myFile3.cfm, myFile4.cfm cfif listfindnocase(variables.fileExclusionList,getfilefrompath(cgi.path_translated),,) eq 0 cfinclude template=myHeaderFile.cfm /cfif Cutter Tony wrote: might be dumb, but this is what i would do. cffunction name=onRequestStart returnType=boolean output=true cfif NOT (cgi.script_name contains yourFilename1 or cgi.script_name contains yourFileName1) !--- Display our Site Header at top of every page --- cfinclude template=SiteHeader.cfm cfreturn true cfelse !--- DO NOT Display our Site Header at top of every page --- cfreturn true /cfif /cffunction tw On 3/1/06, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the below to call the header for all the main pages in a site: cffunction name=onRequestStart returnType=boolean output=true !--- Display our Site Header at top of every page --- cfinclude template=SiteHeader.cfm cfreturn true /cffunction Suddenly, I find I've got maybe one of two pages where I do *NOT* want to call that specific header. Is there a good way to EXCLUDE a page from using that header, but keep it in the same directory as all the others? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233887 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful. I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real Estate as an example. Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! directory? thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 -Original Message- From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SEO Tools Che, The IBP mentioned by ~Dave the disrupter~ also incorporates both of the links I sent out earlier in the downloaded version of their product. Although, it's not free to use, it does incorporate a lot of other useful tools. HTML validator, auto submission etc. Everything mentioned in this thread is also techniques that I use to make the site more relevant depending on which engine your targeting. I wouldn't concentrate too much on the smaller ones, only go for the Google and Yahoo to start out. The rest should follow suit if you get good rankings in these two. The other thing I've noticed in the past is the length of the domain renewal has a direct effect if you purchase the domain for say ten years instead of renewing it every year, it will make a difference by about 4 or 5 places in the listings (that might have changed though, but it did make a difference in my experience). Also if you have multiple relevant sub-sites of your own that point back to the main governing site, it will build link weight and more relevancy. Placed inside the content of one of the subsites you could add keywords/phrases that are linked to other pages in the main site describing more information about a subject while packing in that keyword a few times. The other thing is to make the title of the page have the keyword and name of the file contain the keyword. Relevant content is the key, not flashy intros and sites packed with images. But you need to also account for how new the subsites are and how long they have been around which goes back to what Josh had mentioned earlier. Seniority does take priority in my experience, but if you rank the site well, it will still take less time to get on the first page. You might also want to make the additional sub-sites hosted in separate parts of the country, or hosted with two different providers, this way you'll have two different site from two sides of the country talking about the same relevant site and linked together by matching keywords and headers. Basically, create an infrastructure that makes the main site the governing body or authority on the subject your promoting, while still applying all the other SEO rules you've read about in the rest of this thread. There is no need to fool the search engines if you building a huge infrastructure of sites, but it can cost a lot more $$ and take longer to build. So I guess it would really depend on your products or services and how much your ROI is compared to the time and desire to rank higher. Matt - Original Message - From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: RE: SEO Tools Matt, you da man. I have 2 new useful bookmarks! -Original Message- From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SEO Tools https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=KeywordSandbox - Original Message - From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: RE: SEO Tools Matt, that overture tool is pretty cool. Do you (or anyone) know of an equivalent tool from Google? Thanks, Ché -Original Message- From: Matthew Blatchley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SEO Tools I use http://www.submitexpress.com/analyzer/ to do the word count etc on the pages to match up with the keywords and titles. And I use http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ to double check on Keyword/phrase demand to make sure the keyword I'm trying to rank is actually worth spending the time on. This link you can also use in a custom tag like they have in some program subscriptions...I think wordtracker uses it. Could be wrong though. This seems to work fine for most of my sites. Matt Blatchley Bridgeleaf Studios LLC www.bridgeleaf.com - Original Message - From: Adkins, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: SEO Tools What are the most common used search engine
RE: Compare data within 2 CFCs
That's a decent suggestion too Tango, but some of the CFCs I want to compare
have other CFCs in them. So I could return one mother of a struct that
contains other structs for each internal CFC, but that's the part I'm trying
to avoid.
One advantage is that I actually don't need to know what the differences
are, just that there are differences.
Baz
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From: Baz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there an easy way to compare the data within 2 CFCs? For
example these 2 CFC instances contain different data:
CFC1=createObject('Customer').Read(ID=10)
CFC2=createObject('Customer').Read(ID=99)
Provide a method in the Customer CFC that returns the instance data
(getInstance()). Then use this UDF to see the differences:
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=1136
Tango.
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RE: SEO Tools
Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at. I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services. After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own. Just got to do it smartly. I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real Estate as an example. Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! directory? thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233890 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
It does seem expensive, especially given that from what I understand its basically a plugin for an open source program? Yes, that's all it is. However, it's one hell of a plugin. The problem that a lot of people seem to have when looking at software pricing is that they expect it to match the complexity or size of the application in question. This is silly. The value of a piece of software - like anything else - isn't derived from how big it is, or how complicated it is, but whether it saves you money that you'd otherwise spend doing things some other way. If you're interested in building Flex 2 applications - and I strongly encourage everyone to take a good look at Flex 2 - you can build them with your favorite text editor, or you can use FlexBuilder. Having worked with FlexBuilder myself, I'd buy it in a minute - it makes building Flex 2 applications so much simpler, that you'll recoup your labor costs in a week. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233891 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it. Much better then overture. I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost money so far everytime I tried overture. Just my $0.02 -Original Message- From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at. I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services. After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own. Just got to do it smartly. I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real Estate as an example. Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! directory? thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233892 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
But if all else fails, it has one major advantage: it actually works. I would strongly recommend that you fix JDBC rather than use ODBC for your CF/SQL Server applications. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233893 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Flash remoting alternative
I seem to remember there is a company that has a flash remoting alternative, but can't remember what the website is or what it's called. Anyone know? Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233894 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
Russ, I agree. adwords is the way to go. Overture's ROI pales in comparison. Yahoo Shopping is pretty good as well (and somewhat popular). I wish they had a feature to limit the $$$ spent per day though. ~Ché -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it. Much better then overture. I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost money so far everytime I tried overture. Just my $0.02 -Original Message- From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at. I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services. After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own. Just got to do it smartly. I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real Estate as an example. Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! directory? thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233895 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
Dave, we're talking about someone's personal laptop for development purposes. I do not think performance is going to be an issue here. thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work But if all else fails, it has one major advantage: it actually works. I would strongly recommend that you fix JDBC rather than use ODBC for your CF/SQL Server applications. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233896 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
What is yahoo shopping? -Original Message- From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools Russ, I agree. adwords is the way to go. Overture's ROI pales in comparison. Yahoo Shopping is pretty good as well (and somewhat popular). I wish they had a feature to limit the $$$ spent per day though. ~Ché -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it. Much better then overture. I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost money so far everytime I tried overture. Just my $0.02 -Original Message- From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at. I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services. After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own. Just got to do it smartly. I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real Estate as an example. Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! directory? thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233897 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Host recommendations
I hope this isn't getting too off-topic, but I'm looking for a host that supports both Coldfusion and PHP... Any recommendations? Thanks! Chris ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233898 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flash remoting alternative
AMFPHP? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash remoting alternative I seem to remember there is a company that has a flash remoting alternative, but can't remember what the website is or what it's called. Anyone know? Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233899 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Uninstalling MX6 after installing MX7
So we finally installed Coldfusion MX7 on our Win2003 servers recently. If I remember correctly, at the end of installation it recommended that we uninstall MX6 via the Add/Remove Programs panel. So I'm ready to uninstall this morning and, just out of curiosity, I looked in the custom tag and CFX directories in ColdFusionMX7 and they were empty. CF7 is still looking in the CF6 installation directory for it's custom tags. If I had uninstalled CF6, would we have lost all our custom tags?!? I can easily move a few files and change the paths in the administrator and all our custom tags will be safe in the CF7 directory, but it makes me wonder: Is there anything else I need to do before uninstalling Cf6? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233901 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
The enviroment on the laptop should be exactly what the server enviroment is. If they use ODBC on thier server (which I highly recommend not to), then the laptop should do it. If not, then it shouldn't. Are you using full blow version of SQL or are you using MSDE? If you're using MSDE it defaults with 1433 turned off, you have to install it from a command prompt with a bunch of options in the string in order to enable it. Bob Everland ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233900 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Uninstalling MX6 after installing MX7
So we finally installed Coldfusion MX7 on our Win2003 servers recently. If I remember correctly, at the end of installation it recommended that we uninstall MX6 via the Add/Remove Programs panel. So I'm ready to uninstall this morning and, just out of curiosity, I looked in the custom tag and CFX directories in ColdFusionMX7 and they were empty. CF7 is still looking in the CF6 installation directory for it's custom tags. If I had uninstalled CF6, would we have lost all our custom tags?!? I can easily move a few files and change the paths in the administrator and all our custom tags will be safe in the CF7 directory, but it makes me wonder: Is there anything else I need to do before uninstalling Cf6? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233903 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash remoting alternative
I think it starts with a Z, they had some kick ass examples on thier site and I want to take a look at the calendar option, but just can't remember the site address. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233902 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Host recommendations
CrystalTech does, along with ASP.Net. Ade -Original Message- From: Chris Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 14:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Host recommendations I hope this isn't getting too off-topic, but I'm looking for a host that supports both Coldfusion and PHP... Any recommendations? Thanks! Chris ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233905 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
If you sell products, its a marketplace that can be used to search for them. Yahoo Shopping has been around for a long time and is very similar to Froogle. You can upload a product database and populate your Yahoo Shopping account with all of your online products for customers to shop for, compare, etc. http://shopping.yahoo.com ~Ché -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools What is yahoo shopping? -Original Message- From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools Russ, I agree. adwords is the way to go. Overture's ROI pales in comparison. Yahoo Shopping is pretty good as well (and somewhat popular). I wish they had a feature to limit the $$$ spent per day though. ~Ché -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools I've used adwords, and I got to say it's worth it. Much better then overture. I made money on a consistent basis with adwords, and only lost money so far everytime I tried overture. Just my $0.02 -Original Message- From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SEO Tools Has anyone used Google AdWords? I'm running a real estate website for my mother (shameless plug: www.bettybarthle.com) and I have to help her decide on what kind of a web-promotion budget she needs. Any hints or tips would be useful. This was one of the areas I was looking at. I looked up some SEO's and they wanted $3k a year for their services. After reading all this, it sounds like I'm better off doing it on my own. Just got to do it smartly. I'd like to get her highly placed in the keyword search Northern Virginia Real Estate as an example. Also does anyone know if it's worth paying the $350 to get on the Yahoo! directory? thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233904 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Answers in line On 3/2/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does seem expensive, especially given that from what I understand its basically a plugin for an open source program? Yes, that's all it is. However, it's one hell of a plugin. The problem that a lot of people seem to have when looking at software pricing is that they expect it to match the complexity or size of the application in question. This is silly. The value of a piece of software - like anything else - isn't derived from how big it is, or how complicated it is, but whether it saves you money that you'd otherwise spend doing things some other way. I do still think it's a bit of a cheek to charge the equivalent of a full app suite (or a new PC for that matter) for a plugin - no matter how wonderful it is. As to whether it would save me time/money thats a moot point. Flex 2 is not the only option out there, and wearing either of my hats (as an independent developer or as a member of a large dev team working for a not for profit) $1000 is a lot to spend per seat - especially as we would probably need the server as well. If you're interested in building Flex 2 applications - and I strongly encourage everyone to take a good look at Flex 2 - you can build them with your favorite text editor, or you can use FlexBuilder. Having worked with FlexBuilder myself, I'd buy it in a minute - it makes building Flex 2 applications so much simpler, that you'll recoup your labor costs in a week. I am interested in Flex2, I am also interested in Ajax and several other options - money will be a big part of any decisions made. To set up 2 servers and 12 developers to use Flex might be a very significant outlay. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233906 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Is there a single developer version that's less? No, I don't think there will be. However, the Flex framework itself - the compiler that builds Flex apps - will be free, if I understand correctly. But again, if the product saves you enough development time, $1000 isn't very much. I strongly encourage you to download the public beta and see what you think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233907 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
Dave, we're talking about someone's personal laptop for development purposes. I do not think performance is going to be an issue here. Probably not. I didn't pick up on that part of the thread, I guess. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233908 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SEO Tools
If you take your listing page and make links to an additional detail page with only one description at a time, you could target a single set of keywords and make each paragraph more relevant to a specific phrase within the content. Right now you've got it linking to a PDF, which also helps, but you could take it one step further for each listing and send the user to another detail page with a more expanded view of each property. Then your detail pages would rank individually as well as your home page and listing page making the site bigger.. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233909 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work
While I do not disagree with that statement, again I fail to see where using ODBC on a personal laptop is going to cause such terrible problems. Server load? Nope. Problems handling the SQL? Not unless you're a terrible SQL coder (I have seem some issues when people used non-standard syntax, but they didn't know what they were doing really when they wrote it). So again, if all else is failing, where's the problem in this? I don't see it, other than a bunch of nice-to-have's that really mean squat if JDBC can't connect. thanks -r _ Rob Barthle Contractor - Sr. Software Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-245-6484 -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Upgraded to MX7, SQL Server datasources no longer work The enviroment on the laptop should be exactly what the server enviroment is. If they use ODBC on thier server (which I highly recommend not to), then the laptop should do it. If not, then it shouldn't. Are you using full blow version of SQL or are you using MSDE? If you're using MSDE it defaults with 1433 turned off, you have to install it from a command prompt with a bunch of options in the string in order to enable it. Bob Everland ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233910 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flash remoting alternative
You can also use in your FlashForms the Flex RemoteObject. The description how you can do it, you can find on my blog: http://www.newsight.de/2006/03/01/breaking-bounds-of-cf-flashforms-remoteobj ect/ Artur -Original Message- From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash remoting alternative I seem to remember there is a company that has a flash remoting alternative, but can't remember what the website is or what it's called. Anyone know? Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233911 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash remoting alternative
I think it starts with a Z, they had some kick ass examples on thier site and I want to take a look at the calendar option, but just can't remember the site address. Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233912 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
I've got the labs.adobe.com site open in a browser window...just waiting to have time to view the videos and read the white papers! Thanks for your feedback... Rick -Original Message- From: Donnie Bachan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Rick, You need to see what Flex Builder does. If Ben makes it to an Users Group near you go see the presentation. I am pretty old fashioned, I don't use many visual tools unless I have to, so I still develop in Homesite and Eclipse but after seeing Flex Builder 2 I am now a big fan and starting to put aside cash for this. You will have to code the actions for the interface but things that would take a flash developer hours or days to do you can now do in minutes. Visit labs.adobe.com and download the beta and you too will become a believer! ;-) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233913 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Create / modify Access table in CF5
I have searched my archives and found a file called createtable.cfm That allows me to create a table in an existing Access datasource, but it does not allow me to define a field to allow zero length. Does anyone have a file you could share to allow me to do this? Terry Troxel ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233914 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flash remoting alternative
It's called laszlo that I was looking for. http://www.laszlosystems.com/demos/ Bob ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233915 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Host recommendations
which is why most people back things up. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March 2006 00:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Host recommendations Single disk systems are generally cheap everywhere as you have no redundancy, if the disk fails, you have lost everything. russ -Original Message- From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 February 2006 23:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Host recommendations Hi Steve, I just signed up with Vortech a month or so ago. Dedicated server for 104 bucks a month, you could run what you like. Specs: P4 2.66, 1GB, 40GB. Been very reliable so far, and support good too. Jenny -Original Message- From: Steve Kahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 February 2006 16:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Host recommendations We need cf server 5, crytaltech does not offer it. Has anyone dealt with hosttone.com or have a cf 5 server recommendation. Thanks everyone Steve ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233916 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
It some interesting stuff, I'd like to see more examples integrating it with CF. The one example I found ended up crashing my CF7 box when I tried to apply the updater for it to run, have yet to get back to trying to fix that installation. On 3/2/06, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got the labs.adobe.com site open in a browser window...just waiting to have time to view the videos and read the white papers! Thanks for your feedback... Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233917 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
I do still think it's a bit of a cheek to charge the equivalent of a full app suite (or a new PC for that matter) for a plugin - no matter how wonderful it is. As to whether it would save me time/money thats a moot point. Flex 2 is not the only option out there, and wearing either of my hats (as an independent developer or as a member of a large dev team working for a not for profit) $1000 is a lot to spend per seat - especially as we would probably need the server as well. I don't really understand why it matters whether it's a plugin or a full app suite. What matters to me is what it allows you to do. I'd much rather pay $1000 for FlexBuilder as a plugin to Eclipse, which is somewhat of a known quantity, than have Adobe spend time and developer resources to build an entire IDE from scratch. They'd have to charge more for it just to cover their costs, and it probably wouldn't be nearly as good. And again, the only thing that should matter is whether it helps you deliver better applications faster, at least enough to offset the per-seat cost! And yes, Flex 2 is not the only option out there. But it's fundamentally different from the other options that are available. Based on what I've seen so far, I think it's quite a bit better than the other options. In my opinion, AJAX is hardly comparable to Flex 2 - and I've been working with AJAX (and AJAXish predecessor) applications for a long, long time. You don't need to listen to me, though. Download the open beta and see for yourself! I am interested in Flex2, I am also interested in Ajax and several other options - money will be a big part of any decisions made. To set up 2 servers and 12 developers to use Flex might be a very significant outlay. According to my understanding, you don't necessarily have to purchase any server component at all. You can use Flex to talk to CF applications, web services, etc. without any server component. The optional server component is very impressive, though - it provides some very useful pieces of functionality, like the ability to tie into JMS very easily. As for your not-for-profit development team, Adobe may offer alternative pricing for different sorts of organizations, so you may be able to get it cheaper than I can. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233918 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SEO Tools
Hi Randy, www.webceo.com There is a free version - if you are serious about SEO it's worth paying out for the fully featured versions, but even the free version will set you in the right direction. http://www.goodkeywords.com/ A freebie, this is good for keyword research. Also has some page analysis tools which are useful. I tried IBP, wasn't impressed, and I've tried pretty much everything out there, most of which is crap. www.seoelite.com SEO Elite is worth a look, but the interface is horrible. Personally I wouldn't bother with link build campaigns as the SE's are dropping the relevance of it, due to the cheating that's been going on - and the emergence of crappy link farm sites purely to drive adsense. Hope this helps, Jenny -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 March 2006 21:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: SEO Tools What are the most common used search engine optimization tools used and recommendations? TIA! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233919 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta I do still think it's a bit of a cheek to charge the equivalent of a full app suite (or a new PC for that matter) for a plugin - no matter how wonderful it is. As to whether it would save me time/money thats a moot point. Flex 2 is not the only option out there, and wearing either of my hats (as an independent developer or as a member of a large dev team working for a not for profit) $1000 is a lot to spend per seat - especially as we would probably need the server as well. I don't really understand why it matters whether it's a plugin or a full app suite. What matters to me is what it allows you to do. I'd much rather pay $1000 for FlexBuilder as a plugin to Eclipse, which is somewhat of a known quantity, than have Adobe spend time and developer resources to build an entire IDE from scratch. They'd have to charge more for it just to cover their costs, and it probably wouldn't be nearly as good. And again, the only thing that should matter is whether it helps you deliver better applications faster, at least enough to offset the per-seat cost! And yes, Flex 2 is not the only option out there. But it's fundamentally different from the other options that are available. Based on what I've seen so far, I think it's quite a bit better than the other options. In my opinion, AJAX is hardly comparable to Flex 2 - and I've been working with AJAX (and AJAXish predecessor) applications for a long, long time. You don't need to listen to me, though. Download the open beta and see for yourself! I am interested in Flex2, I am also interested in Ajax and several other options - money will be a big part of any decisions made. To set up 2 servers and 12 developers to use Flex might be a very significant outlay. According to my understanding, you don't necessarily have to purchase any server component at all. You can use Flex to talk to CF applications, web services, etc. without any server component. The optional server component is very impressive, though - it provides some very useful pieces of functionality, like the ability to tie into JMS very easily. As for your not-for-profit development team, Adobe may offer alternative pricing for different sorts of organizations, so you may be able to get it cheaper than I can. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233920 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Create / modify Access table in CF5
I believe the lowest number your going to get is 1. You could however write a custom expression for the field to validate it if it's len() is 0. Just a thought. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Create / modify Access table in CF5 I have searched my archives and found a file called createtable.cfm That allows me to create a table in an existing Access datasource, but it does not allow me to define a field to allow zero length. Does anyone have a file you could share to allow me to do this? Terry Troxel ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233921 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Do you use coldfusion? You know it competes against other products that can do the same thing, and some of those options are free right? PHP, ASP, RoR, etc? Did you pay for the coldfusion server? or do you use a hosting plan that you pay for that costs more than some of the other options? Do you think that 12xx for coldfusion is excessive? Of course they could release coldfusion for less money, but it costs money to develop the software, to maintain it, to train on it, etc. They think 12xx for the server is a pretty good price and so do plenty of corporations / developers. The point is, that while you can get other software that may be cheaper or even free, its worth paying for because you are getting value for your money. While you may pay 1000 for flexbuilder, while you could get some other product for free, flexbuilder is going to allow you to do more faster, increasing your return on investment. Also, if you dont like eclipse, or flexbuilder, use whatever xml / actionscript editor you want. You can get the compiler and flex framework for free... Just realize that you aren't going to have the IDE thats going to make everything easier for you. But I dont see 1000 per developer as excessive at all for the power that you get out of flexbuilder. Truth is, i dont see why anyone is trying to convince you... If you dont use it, it just means less competition later... ;) On 3/2/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -- Ryan Guill BlueEyesDevelopment [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ryanguill.com (270) 217.2399 got google talk? Chat me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Coldfusion Open Application Library - COAL - http://coal.ryanguill.com Use CF and SQL? Try qBrowser - http://www.ryanguill.com/docs/ www.ryanguill.com/ The Roman Empire: www.ryanguill.com/blog/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233922 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Eclipse is not bad... it could use some improvement, and I'm guessing after whatever adobe contributed to eclipse gets released it will be even better, but it's good now... It was kind of buggy and still is in the 1.2 version (which is the final stable version posted on cfeclipse.org), but if you download the nightly build, it's much more user friendly (at least I feel it is). Russ -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta I do still think it's a bit of a cheek to charge the equivalent of a full app suite (or a new PC for that matter) for a plugin - no matter how wonderful it is. As to whether it would save me time/money thats a moot point. Flex 2 is not the only option out there, and wearing either of my hats (as an independent developer or as a member of a large dev team working for a not for profit) $1000 is a lot to spend per seat - especially as we would probably need the server as well. I don't really understand why it matters whether it's a plugin or a full app suite. What matters to me is what it allows you to do. I'd much rather pay $1000 for FlexBuilder as a plugin to Eclipse, which is somewhat of a known quantity, than have Adobe spend time and developer resources to build an entire IDE from scratch. They'd have to charge more for it just to cover their costs, and it probably wouldn't be nearly as good. And again, the only thing that should matter is whether it helps you deliver better applications faster, at least enough to offset the per-seat cost! And yes, Flex 2 is not the only option out there. But it's fundamentally different from the other options that are available. Based on what I've seen so far, I think it's quite a bit better than the other options. In my opinion, AJAX is hardly comparable to Flex 2 - and I've been working with AJAX (and AJAXish predecessor) applications for a long, long time. You don't need to listen to me, though. Download the open beta and see for yourself! I am interested in Flex2, I am also interested in Ajax and several other options - money will be a big part of any decisions made. To set up 2 servers and 12 developers to use Flex might be a very significant outlay. According to my understanding, you don't necessarily have to purchase any server component at all. You can use Flex to talk to CF applications, web services, etc. without any server component. The optional server component is very impressive, though - it provides some very useful pieces of functionality, like the ability to tie into JMS very easily. As for your not-for-profit development team, Adobe may offer alternative pricing for different sorts of organizations, so you may be able to get it cheaper than I can. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233923 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
and you would whine less if it was 600? Somehow I doubt it. Mark -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233924 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
I am interested in Flex2, I am also interested in Ajax and several other options - money will be a big part of any decisions made. To set up 2 servers and 12 developers to use Flex might be a very significant outlay. I've had the same questions running through my mind. I used Ajax to build cfQuickDocs, and I loved it. One thing I do think that will be nice with Flex is cross platform compatibility. You build one app, and every client that has the flash player will run it. The one thing I'm not sure about is flash player versions. I think Linux people are still stuck with Flash Player 7, so if Flex requires the latest versions then some folks will be out. --- [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233926 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
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RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Actually, yes, I do think that $1200 for the server is excessive. Seeing as how CF is the ONLY language that makes you pay for the engine. PHP = free ASP = free (with the windows OS) Java = free ( I beleive ) Perl = free Python = free Ruby = free Are you seeing a pattern here? I personally LOVE Coldfusion and I'm not complaining about it at all. But I do think that it should be free, not because I don't see a value in it, but because I want CF to proliferate. It's such a great language that if it were free LOADS of people would be using it. Because WHY NOT? It's powerful, easy to use and fun. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Do you use coldfusion? You know it competes against other products that can do the same thing, and some of those options are free right? PHP, ASP, RoR, etc? Did you pay for the coldfusion server? or do you use a hosting plan that you pay for that costs more than some of the other options? Do you think that 12xx for coldfusion is excessive? Of course they could release coldfusion for less money, but it costs money to develop the software, to maintain it, to train on it, etc. They think 12xx for the server is a pretty good price and so do plenty of corporations / developers. The point is, that while you can get other software that may be cheaper or even free, its worth paying for because you are getting value for your money. While you may pay 1000 for flexbuilder, while you could get some other product for free, flexbuilder is going to allow you to do more faster, increasing your return on investment. Also, if you dont like eclipse, or flexbuilder, use whatever xml / actionscript editor you want. You can get the compiler and flex framework for free... Just realize that you aren't going to have the IDE thats going to make everything easier for you. But I dont see 1000 per developer as excessive at all for the power that you get out of flexbuilder. Truth is, i dont see why anyone is trying to convince you... If you dont use it, it just means less competition later... ;) On 3/2/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -- Ryan Guill BlueEyesDevelopment [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ryanguill.com (270) 217.2399 got google talk? Chat me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Coldfusion Open Application Library - COAL - http://coal.ryanguill.com Use CF and SQL? Try qBrowser - http://www.ryanguill.com/docs/ www.ryanguill.com/ The Roman Empire: www.ryanguill.com/blog/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233927 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
How is that when someone brings up VALID concerns about a software application it's considered whining? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta and you would whine less if it was 600? Somehow I doubt it. Mark -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233928 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Did you not like Eclipse or CFEclipse? I personally do not care for CFEclipse, I randomly try it out and leave wondering what all the hype is about. I have used Flex Builder a little bit and was impressed with how it worked as a tool. If you do not like the price of Flex Builder you can still build Flex applications and for free you just use the compiler with whatever text editor you like. So I really do not see the issue here, you either spend whatever they decide to charge and potentially save that much money in regards to time saved on the first Flex project you do or you spend more time coding the same stuff in your preferred text editor then use the free compiler on that. On 3/2/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233931 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFMX flash remoting
Anyone know any troubleshooting tips flash remoting on CFMX7. Alas you can't test whether it is working with /flashservices/gateway anymore, and it doesn't appear to be working on my cfmx7 server. Russ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233932 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm not a huge fan of Eclipse either. I can take it or leave it. The value that FlexBuilder 2 brings to the table isn't that it improves Eclipse. The fact is, Adobe had to start somewhere to provide the kind of IDE functionality that something like FlexBuilder 2 needs, and they didn't have suitable starting point in any of their existing products. If you ever tried to use FlexBuilder 1.5, which was built on Dreamweaver, I think you'd agree. I like Dreamweaver, but it simply doesn't fit the needs of something like FlexBuilder. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. I haven't seen anything that can do the same thing as Flex 2. I don't think anything yet exists. It's not an incremental improvement to web applications; it's something entirely different. As for how much exactly it'll cost, there hasn't been an announcement. All they've said so far is that it'll probably be under $1000. So everyone's assuming that it'll be $1000, but for all we know it could be any of those numbers you've given. For all we know, it could be $5. I don't think they've decided yet, frankly, but I don't know any more than you do. But again, you should really check it out for yourself, and see how much you think it's worth. After you've done this, you may well think that $1000 is more than fair. I don't think you'll find anything else that can do the same thing at any price. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233933 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX flash remoting
Anyone know any troubleshooting tips flash remoting on CFMX7. Alas you can't test whether it is working with /flashservices/gateway anymore, and it doesn't appear to be working on my cfmx7 server. This might be helpful: http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=096ED Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233934 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Let me step back here and say that I'm probably coming across badly and I apologize. I tend to argue more than is necessary and for that I'm sorry. I'm excited about seeing this Flex application succeed. I love Macromedia products and I think that they can only get better. I want to look at it and see if it might be the solution for some of our clients, but at this point it's yet another thing I need to learn. I'm going as fast as I can, learning as much as is possible, but they keep coming out with new stuff. Anyway...sorry for the argumentative pose. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Actually, yes, I do think that $1200 for the server is excessive. Seeing as how CF is the ONLY language that makes you pay for the engine. PHP = free ASP = free (with the windows OS) Java = free ( I beleive ) Perl = free Python = free Ruby = free Are you seeing a pattern here? I personally LOVE Coldfusion and I'm not complaining about it at all. But I do think that it should be free, not because I don't see a value in it, but because I want CF to proliferate. It's such a great language that if it were free LOADS of people would be using it. Because WHY NOT? It's powerful, easy to use and fun. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Do you use coldfusion? You know it competes against other products that can do the same thing, and some of those options are free right? PHP, ASP, RoR, etc? Did you pay for the coldfusion server? or do you use a hosting plan that you pay for that costs more than some of the other options? Do you think that 12xx for coldfusion is excessive? Of course they could release coldfusion for less money, but it costs money to develop the software, to maintain it, to train on it, etc. They think 12xx for the server is a pretty good price and so do plenty of corporations / developers. The point is, that while you can get other software that may be cheaper or even free, its worth paying for because you are getting value for your money. While you may pay 1000 for flexbuilder, while you could get some other product for free, flexbuilder is going to allow you to do more faster, increasing your return on investment. Also, if you dont like eclipse, or flexbuilder, use whatever xml / actionscript editor you want. You can get the compiler and flex framework for free... Just realize that you aren't going to have the IDE thats going to make everything easier for you. But I dont see 1000 per developer as excessive at all for the power that you get out of flexbuilder. Truth is, i dont see why anyone is trying to convince you... If you dont use it, it just means less competition later... ;) On 3/2/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -- Ryan Guill BlueEyesDevelopment [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ryanguill.com (270) 217.2399 got google talk? Chat me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Coldfusion Open Application Library - COAL - http://coal.ryanguill.com Use CF and SQL? Try qBrowser - http://www.ryanguill.com/docs/ www.ryanguill.com/ The Roman Empire: www.ryanguill.com/blog/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233935 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
I've had the same questions running through my mind. I used Ajax to build cfQuickDocs, and I loved it. One thing I do think that will be nice with Flex is cross platform compatibility. You build one app, and every client that has the flash player will run it. The one thing I'm not sure about is flash player versions. I think Linux people are still stuck with Flash Player 7, so if Flex requires the latest versions then some folks will be out. Flex 2 applications will require the latest version of Flash (8.5), which is in beta right now along with Flex 2 itself. So, yes, some folks will be out. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233936 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
The one thing I'm not sure about is flash player versions. Flex 2 runs on Flash 8.5. Completely rebuilt VM and MUCH FASTER! My current cfform stuff uses flash 8 (and flex 1 in the back-end) and sometimes takes up to TEN SECONDS to initialize on the screen. The examples Ben F was showing us, were coming up instantly and he said that speed would not slow even as your app grew. Truthfully, that was one of the most exciting things for me. I couldn't sell my powers that be on cf flash forms even because they were so dang slow to load in the past. ~Brad ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233937 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX flash remoting
I suggest (if you haven't already done so) you download an example of flash remoting from asfusion.com upload it to your server without mods and see if that works for starters. It is what I had to do to get it working the first time. That way I knew I was working with a syntactically correct example. http://www.asfusion.com/blog/examples/item/populating-a-cfgrid-with-flas h-remoting ~Brad Anyone know any troubleshooting tips flash remoting on CFMX7. Alas you can't test whether it is working with /flashservices/gateway anymore, and it doesn't appear to be working on my cfmx7 server. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233938 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
By the way... For anyone that's interested, here's a recorded Breeze presentation made by Jesse Warden for the Nashville CFUG. http://mmusergroup.breezecentral.com/p86821128/ !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta The one thing I'm not sure about is flash player versions. Flex 2 runs on Flash 8.5. Completely rebuilt VM and MUCH FASTER! My current cfform stuff uses flash 8 (and flex 1 in the back-end) and sometimes takes up to TEN SECONDS to initialize on the screen. The examples Ben F was showing us, were coming up instantly and he said that speed would not slow even as your app grew. Truthfully, that was one of the most exciting things for me. I couldn't sell my powers that be on cf flash forms even because they were so dang slow to load in the past. ~Brad ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233939 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Create / modify Access table in CF5
You'll just have to play around with the syntax http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;180841 you could try the NULL keyword This page says you can use NOT NULL so you can probably use NULL too.. which is probably the default. Unfortunately, I can't find any references to zero-length fields... Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233940 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Create / modify Access table in CF5
Unfortunately, I can't find any references to zero-length fields... Rick Not sure if I missed something, but the allow zero-length is shown below the column list when in design view of a table and when a column in the list is selected. HTH Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233941 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Are you seeing a pattern here? I personally LOVE Coldfusion and I'm not complaining about it at all. But I do think that it should be free, not because I don't see a value in it, but because I want CF to proliferate. It's such a great language that if it were free LOADS of people would be using it. Because WHY NOT? It's powerful, easy to use and fun. Andy, A company's primary purpose for its existence is to make money. If CF were made available for free, who is going to pay for the developers' time and product support? ASP is not really free if you think about it. Microsoft had already factored in the costs of ASP into the price of every copy of Windows OS sold. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Actually, yes, I do think that $1200 for the server is excessive. Seeing as how CF is the ONLY language that makes you pay for the engine. PHP = free ASP = free (with the windows OS) Java = free ( I beleive ) Perl = free Python = free Ruby = free Are you seeing a pattern here? I personally LOVE Coldfusion and I'm not complaining about it at all. But I do think that it should be free, not because I don't see a value in it, but because I want CF to proliferate. It's such a great language that if it were free LOADS of people would be using it. Because WHY NOT? It's powerful, easy to use and fun. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Do you use coldfusion? You know it competes against other products that can do the same thing, and some of those options are free right? PHP, ASP, RoR, etc? Did you pay for the coldfusion server? or do you use a hosting plan that you pay for that costs more than some of the other options? Do you think that 12xx for coldfusion is excessive? Of course they could release coldfusion for less money, but it costs money to develop the software, to maintain it, to train on it, etc. They think 12xx for the server is a pretty good price and so do plenty of corporations / developers. The point is, that while you can get other software that may be cheaper or even free, its worth paying for because you are getting value for your money. While you may pay 1000 for flexbuilder, while you could get some other product for free, flexbuilder is going to allow you to do more faster, increasing your return on investment. Also, if you dont like eclipse, or flexbuilder, use whatever xml / actionscript editor you want. You can get the compiler and flex framework for free... Just realize that you aren't going to have the IDE thats going to make everything easier for you. But I dont see 1000 per developer as excessive at all for the power that you get out of flexbuilder. Truth is, i dont see why anyone is trying to convince you... If you dont use it, it just means less competition later... ;) On 3/2/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about those of us who just don't like Eclipse? I've tried it several times and each time I return to my copy of Editplus wondering what all of you are raving about. I'm now knocking it, or you Dave, but it I don't care WHAT it can do, the fact is that it's competing against other stuff that can do the same thing and some of those options are free. It just seem a little excessive for Adobe to charge $999. Why not $500? Or even $600. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -- Ryan Guill BlueEyesDevelopment [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ryanguill.com (270) 217.2399 got google talk? Chat me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Coldfusion Open Application Library - COAL - http://coal.ryanguill.com Use CF and SQL? Try qBrowser - http://www.ryanguill.com/docs/ www.ryanguill.com/ The Roman Empire: www.ryanguill.com/blog/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233942 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Andy, A company's primary purpose for its existence is to make money. If CF were made available for free, who is going to pay for the developers' time and product support? ASP is not really free if you think about it. Microsoft had already factored in the costs of ASP into the price of every copy of Windows OS sold. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta Actually, yes, I do think that $1200 for the server is excessive. Seeing as how CF is the ONLY language that makes you pay for the engine. PHP = free ASP = free (with the windows OS) Java = free ( I beleive ) Perl = free Python = free Ruby = free Are you seeing a pattern here? I personally LOVE Coldfusion and I'm not complaining about it at all. But I do think that it should be free, not because I don't see a value in it, but because I want CF to proliferate. It's such a great language that if it were free LOADS of people would be using it. Because WHY NOT? It's powerful, easy to use and fun. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233943 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Flex 2 applications will require the latest version of Flash (8.5), which is in beta right now along with Flex 2 itself. So, yes, some folks will be out. Hmm, that's a bummer. I'd not release any major apps from Flex 2 until 8.5 has a wide install base. However, the upgrade to new versions /is/ pretty painless. I was very surprised the other day when I hit a site in my new install of Ubuntu, Flash was required and Firefox did the install painlessly, then sent me back to the original page without restarting the browser! Very slick! --- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233944 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
Hmm, that's a bummer. I'd not release any major apps from Flex 2 until 8.5 has a wide install base. However, the upgrade to new versions /is/ pretty painless. I was very surprised the other day when I hit a site in my new install of Ubuntu, Flash was required and Firefox did the install painlessly, then sent me back to the original page without restarting the browser! Very slick! I think that the 8.5 install base will grow very quickly. Current versions of Flash, as you've noticed, can upgrade themselves pretty easily. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233945 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Session Replication CFMX 7.01 / JRun 4 upd6
I am attempting to set up a 4 instance cluster across two servers which are on an NLB cluster, but I can't get Session Replication in CF working at all. I've tried two methods of setting it up so far. First I simply tried creating new instances based on the master cfusion instance. That didn't seem to work, so I then created an ear file and deployed that one ear file for each of the four instances. I am using the CF Administrator to deploy the instances, register the remote instances and select sticky sessions and session replication. I am not touching the JMC at all, since my understanding is that CF7 is supposed to allow clustering to be completely handled from the CF Administrator. With that said, I have looked at the config within the JMC after setting everything up through CF Admin, and I noticed two things that concern me: 1) not all of the instances in the CF Cluster have session replication checked within the JMC 2) there are no replication buddies listed for any of the instances Doesn't CF Admin just act as a front-end to the JRun clustering, and if so, shouldn't those things (replication buddies and session replication) both be automatically set up in the JMC as a result of configuring the cluster through CF Admin? Has anybody else had these issues. This is a new install, and I've been trying to get Macromedia support to help (since our salesperson said that the clustering setup would be included in the installation support), but so far the Macromedia support person hasn't been very responsive or helpful. We really need to have reliable fail-over on these servers since they are very heavily used 24x7 by a large client base. We don't use session variables for much, but it will create some problems in a couple areas of our application if we implement fail-over without session replication. Thanks! Scott ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233946 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta
I think that the 8.5 install base will grow very quickly. Current versions of Flash, as you've noticed, can upgrade themselves pretty easily. You now..I don't think I've ever seen an automatic Flash Player update (kicked off from a Flash based site) work. How about the rest of ya? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233947 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX flash remoting
Have you used the NetConnection Debugger to see the calls being made? !k -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 2, 2006 9:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX flash remoting Anyone know any troubleshooting tips flash remoting on CFMX7. Alas you can't test whether it is working with /flashservices/gateway anymore, and it doesn't appear to be working on my cfmx7 server. Russ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233948 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
