Re: Bad DSN causing CF to crash

2007-03-23 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Well, there are no doubt a few things to check here.

Get them to check their disk space on the ColdFusion box and ensure the
neo-query.xml file is not corrupt. Easiest way to tell us by loading it in
IE, if it doesn't load, it's broken.

Is the SQL Server 64-bit?

The connection reset could be a network issue as well.




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From: RobG
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thu Mar 22 23:56:15 2007
Subject: Bad DSN causing CF to crash

I ran into this problem yesterday and wanted to post about it to see if 
anybody has ever experienced it.

Client running CFMX7.02 on Windows Server 2003 SP1 with all updates. 
Connecting to MSSQL2000 database on separate shared db server.

App is nothing particularly fancy, CF5-compliant with a couple of 
MX-specific uses of CFFORM and a couple of CFCs.

For the last week or so, we've been getting progressively increasing 
numbers of errors saying connection reset when trying to make db 
calls.  I posted about it here and got one response indicating a problem 
with drivers back on MX6.1.

We decided to relocate the db to MSSQL2005 on the webserver and off of 
the shared environment, because the ISP was unwilling to try to fix the 
problem since it wasn't consistent.

Yesterday, prior to moving the db (it was tentatively scheduled for last 
night), the db stopped responding.  Or rather, what appeared to be the 
case was CF up and died.  It would time and end conclude with a JRun 
Closed Connection error.

Thinking that CF was hosed, I uninstalled it, rebooted, and reinstalled 
CF.  We ended up doing this twice.  Nothing worked.  Get it back up, 
recreate the DSN to the shared server, and CF was dead again within a 
minute or two.

Finally, I had an idea... I restarted the CF service and killed the DSN. 
  I recreated it pointing to a copy of the database running on an 
entirely different server on my own personal network.  Now the site ran 
just fine.  So I started suspecting the shared db server.

To test my theory, I copied the site's code to our development server at 
another ISP (this time a Linux box), and pointed it to the shared db 
server.  CF immediately went down.  Once more... I did the same thing on 
my home development machine.  CF once again died.

So I contacted the ISP and rather than try to explain this to them, I 
just asked that a backup copy of the db be put on the webserver, which 
they managed to do within an hour (wow!).  I imported it into the local 
MSSQL2005 and setup the DSN... bingo!  Everything was running again.

What's odd is that you can talk to the shared db server using MS SQL 
Management Studio, with RDS, or even with SQL Explorer under Eclipse 
just fine.  But try to get the CF application server to talk to it means 
certain death.

I can't explain it, but everybody is relieved that things are good 
again.  And we're avoiding that shared db server like the plague.

Rob






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Re: CFQUERY vs SQL Server Stored Procedures

2007-03-23 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Indeed, I used to be in the camp of SPs were faster in ColdFusion but in
most cases they are not. What we do now is use them where we actually need
them - multiple recordsets for example.

Also one of the major benefits is that they can be shared by our ColdFusion
and .NET developers etc..







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Subject: RE: CFQUERY vs SQL Server Stored Procedures

There are two reasons my organization encourages/forces all SQL to be in
stored procedures. And they don't directly touch on performance.

1. A belief that keeping SQL code in the database is of itself a good thing.
By keeping the database interaction in the database you make it easier for
DBA's to do their job. Especially when a query goes awry, and your SQL
server starts bombing.  It's in my humble opinion easier to troubleshoot SQL
problems on the SQL server when the actual SQL is present. Especially during
a crisis. 

Now, if you're a one person development team, or all of your CF developers
are also doing their own DBA work it might not make a whole lot of sense for
this argument.

However, having all of the SQL there allows you to more easily use SQL
tuning tools, which can improve indexing, which can make either inline
queries or stored procedures run faster. 


2. It forces developers to concentrate on the database first, as that seems
to be the hardest thing to change once an application gets past the planning
stage.

Granted this is just enforcing good programming practices (taking a good
long look at the database in this case) through policy. But considering that
the database side of things was causing the majority of our server problems,
it was the right call.

So... 

Someone who tells you that all stored procedures are faster than inline
queries is wrong.
Someone who tells you that all stored procedures are better, is probably
wrong.
Someone who tells you that stored procedures are better for their
organization, group or specific problem might be right.


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Re: Web Server Configuration Tool

2007-03-23 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I would be interested in hearing the approach in detail. We are moving to a
tiered approach like this and I am sure you do not need ColdFusion on the
Web Server at all.





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Sent: Fri Mar 23 06:34:33 2007
Subject: Web Server Configuration Tool 

So, I'm toying around with CF Enterprise and it is a lot of fun.
Specifically I am experimenting with the instance manager and such.  So,
one thing I never knew you could do was to have a web server (IIS) on
one physical computer bound to a CF instance (or cluster) on another
physical server.  So, just to get this straight in my head how it would
work:
I would run the Web Server Configuration Tool on the web server and
specify the DNS name or IP address of the application server where JRUN
was installed and the CF application was deployed.  I wouldn't even need
to have CF installed on the web server-- but wait a minute-- the Web
Server Configuration Tool is part of the CFMX install.  Even if I wasn't
going to run my CF application from that server, would I still have to
install it just to use the Web Server Configuration Tool?  Would I need
a license for that install?  Is there another way to bind my web server
to my CF instance/cluster without using the Web Server Configuration
Tool?

Oh, ones of great knowledge, enlighten me.  This is one of a few
millions questions I have thought of and HAVEN'T answered after pouring
through the livedocs.

Thanks.

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Re: Just a tidbit for those who might not have use iif before

2007-03-23 Thread Richard Cooper
I'm assuming there is a noticeable difference in using IFF? Recently I've been 
using it quite heavily in forms now i.e. 

cfinput type=radio name=myField id=myField value=myValue 
checked=#IIF(something eq 'somethingelse', DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# /

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Re: xml cfform validation problem

2007-03-23 Thread Richard Cooper
Removing the underscore from the form id will fix it.

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Re: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Paul Hastings
Brad Wood wrote:
 My WAR file is about 122 Megs, but the server I am trying to deploy it
 to has two dual core 2 GHz processors and 4 Gig's of RAM.  It can't be
 THAT bad, can it
 
 What gives?

if i recall correctly, that's a cf process that takes quite a long time but the 
admin code that handles this doesn't set the timeout value before it runs. try 
manually increasing the timeout value, then run the deploy.

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Re: New Features In Scorpio

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 22 Mar 2007, Aaron Rouse wrote:
 I'd be curious how supported it really ends up being.  Seems like a lot of
 CF support is just in the community anyway.  I know the few times we have
 tried using official support that was paid for by our company we usually
 still got no solution or discovered the community could provide quicker or
 better support.

I had a similar discussion last week :-)
Free support might be better, but the fact you can turn to (your bosses bosses 
boss) and say 'it's OK to use X, if it goes wrong we can ring them up and 
they'll fix it' is a real deal winner sometimes.

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Re: viviotech vps, non-admin linux newbie, rambling questions

2007-03-23 Thread James Holmes
My thoughts below:

On 3/23/07, stylo stylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thinking about a viviotech vps but I'm not an admin and never used linux. 
 Wondering how hard it would be and what people are using there. I've searched 
 and read the good feedback. It's either that or shared hosting somewhere like 
 hostmysite/ct.

 I know there is a managed solution but wondering if I could toy with an 
 unmanaged one and set it up slowly myself. Would like to hear from anyone but 
 especially people who were in the same boat.

This is essentially where I was, although to be fair I had basic
Linux/UNIX experience when I started. The control panel lets you do
most things without needing to know Linux and the support forum will
help you do the rest.


 Rambling thoughts:

 Is a basic package with 256mb enough for Bluedragon and mysql4/5 on a not too 
 busy niche commerce site? I thought much more memory would be needed.

I added 256MB just to be sure (since it costs stuff all), but here's
what top shows me right now:

Mem:   524288k av,  107468k used,  416820k free

So it's up to you. Don't forget you get a larger amount of swap space
to go with that physical memory.


 Is the line fast enough?

Seems good to me. Let me know: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/


 Find much difference between BD and cfmx on linux? (I know the tag 
 differences.)

Not much - the odd thing is different but all the important stuff
works as you would expect.


 Are there problems monitoring BD in case it pegs the cpu? I know you can't 
 use cfmx monitors. What do people do? (I also don't want to be tied to a 
 computer 24hrs a day.) Big issue, small issue?

You could set up a cron job to do this kind of thing with shell
scripts. It could restart BD automatically etc.


 What sort of monitoring does viviotech do for you themselves?

If something is obviously wrong with their hardware etc they get on
it. You can ask Jordan for more details if you need to (I imagine
he'll be responding here soon enough anyway).


 Is it a full-time job for you now monitoring the site yourself and jumping in 
 to fix things all the time?

BD had a hiccup once. Updating the system is as hard as typing yum
update or using the control panel to do the same thing.


 How difficult was it to set up such an environment there with a couple extra 
 very minor domains, ftp, email and such?

Control Panel does this for you  - fill in a form and click a button.


 Mysql backup has to be done manually? Do you also have to monitor mysql 
 somehow?

You could schedule this. MySQL hasn't broken so far.


 Do you install phpadmin to handle mysql, or something else? I'm not really a 
 command-line guy.

I use the MySQL Windows GUI tools - I've given a specific IP access to
do this (via the control panel, btw). Navicat is good too.


 Did you have to become BD/mysql/apache gurus just in order to use them for 
 the site, or left them as-is? I'm afraid I'd do this then find I'd never 
 tweaked some obvious setting which was causing big problems.

Nope, worked out of the box.


 What do you do to ensure security?

You can set up firewall rules, schedule updates etc. It's set up quite
securely by default.


 What were the biggest hurdles you faced going it alone?

N/A - I haven't looked back. After the service I got at the old
provider, I decided I'd do a better job. You can always ask for help
on the forums if you get stuck and Jordan often helps for free (and of
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Re: You think you know OOP.. but you don't

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 22 Mar 2007, Jonathan Block wrote:
 Why do so many articles get published in the CFMX world about OOP.

Because people are building large applications.
Because people want to build applications that can be understood.
Because people want applications that are not brittle when changed.

 I've read though several, not going to mention names here... but you
 read it and it makes you think.. wow .. i thought I understood OOP but
 maybe I don't.
 Factories... abstraction... models... patterns... that's too much crap for
 someone to learn.

Yup.
And in general in OO training you might have had at Uni. or whatever is 
totally useless for a modern environment, where you do have Factories and 
Workers and so on.

 I feel like anybody who's trying to learn CFMX need not worry about whether
 or not they know OOP or any of these crazy buzzwords.

Your feelings are spot on.

 Is there such a resource?

There are several blogs and web sites out there (mine included :-) ) that talk 
about how to build things in a nice OO fashion.
The rouble is, 'recommended way' means very different things to different 
people writing different applications.
If all you're doing is slinging the results of 'select  *' into a HTML table, 
there's no point writing a whole multi-tier'ed, dependancy-injected, 
object-relation-modeled CFML application.

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Re: Miss CF days / seriously considering getting back to it

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 22 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Broadly speaking, am I miss something critical in the CF world for the
 following sketch?

No, that about covers it :-)
I just wanted to check you picked up on Flex and Apollo too - these make it 
easy to build very nice web and desktop GUIs, and hook straight into CFCs for 
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Re: Just a tidbit for those who might not have use iif before

2007-03-23 Thread Rob Wilkerson
checked=#something eq 'somethingelse#

That should work just fine.  No need for the iff() in this case.

On 3/23/07, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm assuming there is a noticeable difference in using IFF? Recently I've
 been using it quite heavily in forms now i.e.

 cfinput type=radio name=myField id=myField value=myValue
 checked=#IIF(something eq 'somethingelse', DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# /

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RE: LDAP Anyone?

2007-03-23 Thread Leitch, Oblio
I second this.  Remember, because CF is typeless, when it tries to
write to output binary in the cfldap tage, it might be expecting a
string, not binary.  How they've chosen to output the attributes, I
don't know, but that might cause it to fail.

I would double (triple?) check that the data sent through LDAP is, in
fact, binary or encoded (base64 or hex or uuencode, etc).  I wouldn't
use a tool to do that as it might be altering results.  Rather, try a
packet sniffer to see what the actual contents are.  If it's encoded,
your life will be easier.  If not, then you're probably going to have to
investigate some Java-based alternative.

My experience: I wanted a way to compress data. Specifically, I thought
there should be a way to feed data through a CF function and get a
compressed result.  Since there's nothing that does it natively, I
turned to Java.  Java has a native GZipDataStream - very slick.  The
trouble was getting the data from CF -- it could only come and go as a
String.  I ended up requiring it to be base64 encoded to and from, and
decode it once it was inside Java.  (now I have a tag that will compress
a datastream without writing to disk.  I use it for squashing wddx
packets for storage in a database)

I think it was the interface they've written for custom CFX that's the
limiter.

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Subject: Re: LDAP Anyone?

On a totally different note:

Why not use some java solution?  I bet you could even do something
along the lines of cfmail, where CF has javamail (iirc), which totally
rocks, but of which CF exposes only a tiny bit.

Find what CF uses for LDAP, research it, and call it yourself using
createObject(), if even just for the image upload stuff.

Whenever I've run into a problem like that (IMAP stuff, in my case),
I've found using the underlying java will do what CF couldn't, if in
fact CF can't.

HIH, and if you have questions about how to leverage some java
package, feel free to ask.  Maybe jldap ( openldap.org)?  Eh...

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Re: You think you know OOP.. but you don't

2007-03-23 Thread srinivas ganta
Hi Jonathan,

if it is two tier architecture, with out OOP knowledge u can build CFML web
sites .
if you want to seperate business logic from presentation layer and data
layer,u have to go for CFCs.
it is worth to follow OOP concepts ,it saves ur programmers
time(Inheritence) and gives security(abstraction)
and reduce the reccurance of coding(polymorphism).
there is no rule that u have to implement coldfusion on oops concepts.
u can implement on procedural code,if u dont have skilled programmers and if
it is simple application.
hope the following link make you sense.
http://www.quackit.com/coldfusion/tutorial/coldfusion_components.cfm

Thanks
Srinivas


On 3/23/07, Jonathan Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why do so many articles get published in the CFMX world about OOP.

 I've read though several, not going to mention names here... but you
 read it and it makes you think.. wow .. i thought I understood OOP but
 maybe
 I don't.

 Factories... abstraction... models... patterns... that's too much crap for
 someone to learn.

 I feel like anybody who's trying to learn CFMX need not worry about
 whether
 or not they know OOP or any of these crazy buzzwords. If we think OOP is
 important, or any other buzz word for that matter, we really aught to make
 a
 simple application that shows you the recommended way to do something in
 CFMX.

 Is there such a resource?

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SOT: Getting Started with Flex

2007-03-23 Thread Rob Wilkerson
One technology where I've remained admittedly ignorant for too long is
Flex.  I've simply never had a reason to get into it.  Now I have a task to
prototype a web accessible reporting interface that will make heavy use of
graphs.  We're using PHP instead of CF as the backend for this one, but I'm
thinking Flex might be a natural fit for the charting and graphing, in
particular.  My question is simple: how do I get started.  I see lots of
articles related to getting started with the code, but I don't even know
what I need, where to get it or what (if anything) it costs.

Anyone willing to hook me up with some info?

I appreciate it.

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WDDX v.s. CF 7 XML functionality

2007-03-23 Thread Dan O'Keefe
While having a few legacy apps myself making use of WDDX, I was wondering if
WDDX still has value that is not currently offered in the XML support of CF
7.02. Seems like opedwddx.org is pretty stale.

Any thoughts?

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Re: viviotech vps, non-admin linux newbie, rambling questions

2007-03-23 Thread Yves Arsenault
I'll chime in to give a couple of cents worth

I've got a root access VPS package, 512 RAM and BD.

I've been using this package since september 30th 2005.

There have been few glitches in that time.

As James mentions, you can do most things in the web admin panel. So you
don't really need much knowledge of Linux.

The forums are usually a good place to get some support and Jordan is
top notch.

You don't have to be a linux guru, but it's nice because if you want to
'customize' some aspects of your VPS (at some point), you have that freedom.

That's 2 cents worth.

Thanks,

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On 3/23/07, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My thoughts below:

 On 3/23/07, stylo stylo [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  Thinking about a viviotech vps but I'm not an admin and never used
 linux. Wondering how hard it would be and what people are using there. I've
 searched and read the good feedback. It's either that or shared hosting
 somewhere like hostmysite/ct.
 
  I know there is a managed solution but wondering if I could toy with an
 unmanaged one and set it up slowly myself. Would like to hear from anyone
 but especially people who were in the same boat.

 This is essentially where I was, although to be fair I had basic
 Linux/UNIX experience when I started. The control panel lets you do
 most things without needing to know Linux and the support forum will
 help you do the rest.

 
  Rambling thoughts:
 
  Is a basic package with 256mb enough for Bluedragon and mysql4/5 on a
 not too busy niche commerce site? I thought much more memory would be
 needed.

 I added 256MB just to be sure (since it costs stuff all), but here's
 what top shows me right now:

 Mem:   524288k av,  107468k used,  416820k free

 So it's up to you. Don't forget you get a larger amount of swap space
 to go with that physical memory.

 
  Is the line fast enough?

 Seems good to me. Let me know: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

 
  Find much difference between BD and cfmx on linux? (I know the tag
 differences.)

 Not much - the odd thing is different but all the important stuff
 works as you would expect.

 
  Are there problems monitoring BD in case it pegs the cpu? I know you
 can't use cfmx monitors. What do people do? (I also don't want to be tied to
 a computer 24hrs a day.) Big issue, small issue?

 You could set up a cron job to do this kind of thing with shell
 scripts. It could restart BD automatically etc.

 
  What sort of monitoring does viviotech do for you themselves?

 If something is obviously wrong with their hardware etc they get on
 it. You can ask Jordan for more details if you need to (I imagine
 he'll be responding here soon enough anyway).

 
  Is it a full-time job for you now monitoring the site yourself and
 jumping in to fix things all the time?

 BD had a hiccup once. Updating the system is as hard as typing yum
 update or using the control panel to do the same thing.

 
  How difficult was it to set up such an environment there with a couple
 extra very minor domains, ftp, email and such?

 Control Panel does this for you  - fill in a form and click a button.

 
  Mysql backup has to be done manually? Do you also have to monitor mysql
 somehow?

 You could schedule this. MySQL hasn't broken so far.

 
  Do you install phpadmin to handle mysql, or something else? I'm not
 really a command-line guy.

 I use the MySQL Windows GUI tools - I've given a specific IP access to
 do this (via the control panel, btw). Navicat is good too.

 
  Did you have to become BD/mysql/apache gurus just in order to use them
 for the site, or left them as-is? I'm afraid I'd do this then find I'd never
 tweaked some obvious setting which was causing big problems.

 Nope, worked out of the box.

 
  What do you do to ensure security?

 You can set up firewall rules, schedule updates etc. It's set up quite
 securely by default.

 
  What were the biggest hurdles you faced going it alone?

 N/A - I haven't looked back. After the service I got at the old
 provider, I decided I'd do a better job. You can always ask for help
 on the forums if you get stuck and Jordan often helps for free (and of
 course you can pay for support if some simple advice is not going to
 cut it).

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Re: viviotech vps, non-admin linux newbie, rambling questions

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Root
Here are my thoughts

On 3/23/07, stylo stylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thinking about a viviotech vps but I'm not an admin and never used linux.
 Wondering how hard it would be and what people are using there. I've
 searched and read the good feedback. It's either that or shared hosting
 somewhere like hostmysite/ct.

 I know there is a managed solution but wondering if I could toy with an
 unmanaged one and set it up slowly myself. Would like to hear from anyone
 but especially people who were in the same boat.


Out of the box, the Viviotech VPSs are pretty easy to manage, if you are
happy with the default setup... I'm more of al inux person so I actually
configured and installed my own mail server (qmail) instead of using  the
default (postfix)... but there's really no need for that.




 Is a basic package with 256mb enough for Bluedragon and mysql4/5 on a not
 too busy niche commerce site? I thought much more memory would be needed.


I run www.bobguiney.com on a VPS.. it's not a particularly active web
site... it's running BlueDragon and currently is only using 75MB of 256MB
physical memory, though the swap file is using 400MB of 512MB

I've never had a problem with response time on it though.



 Find much difference between BD and cfmx on linux? (I know the tag
 differences.)


For basic CFML functionality, bluedragon is a pretty good substitute.  I try
to make sure all my open source software runs on Bluedragon, and don't
usually have much trouble at all.  CFMBB, imageCFC, CFOpenChat, BlogCFM,
etc...


 Are there problems monitoring BD in case it pegs the cpu? I know you can't
 use cfmx monitors. What do people do? (I also don't want to be tied to a
 computer 24hrs a day.) Big issue, small issue?


I don't use any monitors on the VPS and I don't think I've ever had a
problem with Bluedragon crashing.  Current uptime is 131 days.



 What sort of monitoring does viviotech do for you themselves?


On the unmanaged VPS, I'm not sure they do any monitoring, but you'd have to
ask them to be sure.


 Is it a full-time job for you now monitoring the site yourself and jumping
 in to fix things all the time?


I suppose that depends on your web site.  I don't monitor bobguiney.com,
I've made very few changes to it over the years, and it quite happily runs
itself.  The only thing I've really done to it in the last two years is post
his blog entries for him.


 How difficult was it to set up such an environment there with a couple
 extra very minor domains, ftp, email and such?


CP+ makes this all relatively easy.


 Do you install phpadmin to handle mysql, or something else? I'm not really
 a command-line guy.


You can do that.. or get a GUI to run on your desktop and just grant
privileges (through CP+) allowing you to access MySQL remotely.



 What were the biggest hurdles you faced going it alone?


Changing the initial setup from Postfix to Qmail... I'm pretty good with
qmail but figuring out how to get CP+ to itnegrate with qmail was a little
difficult.. lots of different settings.  You should be fine with postfix
though.

Rick

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OT: Sitemaps

2007-03-23 Thread Steve LaBadie
Is anyone aware of a product that can accurately count how many pages
are on a web server for a specific domain? I am not looking to create a
web-based sitemap but to know how many (.htm, .cfm, etc.) pages exist
without having to count by hand.

 

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RE: Sitemaps

2007-03-23 Thread Adkins, Randy
Well you could write a simple utility to go through the folders and
count those pages.
However if you are looking a what is the count of pages a user will see
may be different
Since the end user does not see the number of includes on a single page.



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From: Steve LaBadie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Sitemaps

Is anyone aware of a product that can accurately count how many pages
are on a web server for a specific domain? I am not looking to create a
web-based sitemap but to know how many (.htm, .cfm, etc.) pages exist
without having to count by hand.

 

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East Stroudsburg University
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Re: LDAP Anyone?

2007-03-23 Thread Vince Collins (NHJobs.com)
Thanks Dinner,

Looking under the hood of CF sounds a bit scary but only because I have 
never done it before. I very much appreciate your suggestion and may 
have questions along the way.




Dinner wrote:
 On a totally different note:

 Why not use some java solution?  I bet you could even do something
 along the lines of cfmail, where CF has javamail (iirc), which totally
 rocks, but of which CF exposes only a tiny bit.

 Find what CF uses for LDAP, research it, and call it yourself using
 createObject(), if even just for the image upload stuff.

 Whenever I've run into a problem like that (IMAP stuff, in my case),
 I've found using the underlying java will do what CF couldn't, if in
 fact CF can't.

 HIH, and if you have questions about how to leverage some java
 package, feel free to ask.  Maybe jldap ( openldap.org)?  Eh...

 Force be with you!

 On 3/22/07, Vince C wrote:
   
 Thanks again Michael,

 I guess that's the question.  Can ColdFusion do this now?  In 6.1 or
 7.0?  I think it probably can but I don't know if there is some switch
 or other that can be passed along with this update that tells LDAP so.

 
 


 

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Re: LDAP Anyone?

2007-03-23 Thread Vince Collins (NHJobs.com)
I was told when I began this project by the LDAP administrator that it 
is storing images in base64.  So I just encoded the binary file as 
toBase64() and the database took it just fine but it actually wasn't 
just fine.  All images uploaded my my tool where corrupt.  By using a 
third party tool, the images showed as corrupt with errors like may be 
partially truncated or otherwise invalid.  Using a third party tool it 
also qualified my newly uploaded images at Text Attributes while the 
other good images were qualified as Binary Attributes. 

As you say, it appears something might be lost in translation between 
cfldap and the underlying Java code.

I have never worked with Java before and am a bit nervous venturing into 
it today but at this point, if I'm going to call myself a programmer, I 
suppose I better attempt to actually be one and take this challenge on.

Thanks for your help, I will now look into trying to figure out what 
CFLDAP is calling and go from there.

Best Regards,



Leitch, Oblio wrote:
 I second this.  Remember, because CF is typeless, when it tries to
 write to output binary in the cfldap tage, it might be expecting a
 string, not binary.  How they've chosen to output the attributes, I
 don't know, but that might cause it to fail.

 I would double (triple?) check that the data sent through LDAP is, in
 fact, binary or encoded (base64 or hex or uuencode, etc).  I wouldn't
 use a tool to do that as it might be altering results.  Rather, try a
 packet sniffer to see what the actual contents are.  If it's encoded,
 your life will be easier.  If not, then you're probably going to have to
 investigate some Java-based alternative.

 My experience: I wanted a way to compress data. Specifically, I thought
 there should be a way to feed data through a CF function and get a
 compressed result.  Since there's nothing that does it natively, I
 turned to Java.  Java has a native GZipDataStream - very slick.  The
 trouble was getting the data from CF -- it could only come and go as a
 String.  I ended up requiring it to be base64 encoded to and from, and
 decode it once it was inside Java.  (now I have a tag that will compress
 a datastream without writing to disk.  I use it for squashing wddx
 packets for storage in a database)

 I think it was the interface they've written for custom CFX that's the
 limiter.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:42 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: LDAP Anyone?

 On a totally different note:

 Why not use some java solution?  I bet you could even do something
 along the lines of cfmail, where CF has javamail (iirc), which totally
 rocks, but of which CF exposes only a tiny bit.

 Find what CF uses for LDAP, research it, and call it yourself using
 createObject(), if even just for the image upload stuff.

 Whenever I've run into a problem like that (IMAP stuff, in my case),
 I've found using the underlying java will do what CF couldn't, if in
 fact CF can't.

 HIH, and if you have questions about how to leverage some java
 package, feel free to ask.  Maybe jldap ( openldap.org)?  Eh...

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Re: OT: Sitemaps

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Wright
Steve LaBadie wrote:
 Is anyone aware of a product that can accurately count how many pages
 are on a web server for a specific domain? I am not looking to create a
 web-based sitemap but to know how many (.htm, .cfm, etc.) pages exist
 without having to count by hand.

Maybe use a link checker like Xenu...
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html

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RE: Error invoking CFC for gateway myGateway: String index out of range: -1

2007-03-23 Thread Everett, Al \(NIH/NIGMS\) [C]
Well, thanks for all the feedback.

Oddly, all of the gateways on our development server throw this error,
but the same gateways work fine in our test and production environments.
Code is all the same and the servers are SUPPOSED to be identical.

Any ideas? 

-Original Message-

Error invoking CFC for gateway myGateway: String index out of range: -1

 
Anyone have any experience with this error?
 
The cfc is essentially empty at this point. It's an initiator gateway
and all I have (after removing things trying to debug) is just an
onIncomingMessage() function that doesn't do anything.
 
I've restarted the gateway after each code change, but the error stays
the same.
 
Ideas?

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Re: Just a tidbit for those who might not have use iif before

2007-03-23 Thread Peter Boughton
First better way: Don't use strings for booleans!
cfinput type=radio name=myField id=myField value=myValue 
checked=#IIF(something eq 'somethingelse', 1, 0)# /

Second better way: Don't write if True then True else False!
cfinput type=radio name=myField id=myField value=myValue 
checked=#(something eq 'somethingelse')# /
(parenthesis are unnecessary here, but I feel they make it more readable)

Third better way: Don't use cfform!
form:select id=myField options=myValue value=somethingelse/
(that's from my form custom tag library, not yet released)


:)


 I'm assuming there is a noticeable difference in using IFF? Recently 
 I've been using it quite heavily in forms now i.e. 
 
 cfinput type=radio name=myField id=myField value=myValue 
 checked=#IIF(something eq 'somethingelse', DE('Yes'), DE('No'))# /
 
 Are there better ways of doing this?

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OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Doug Brown
I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and center
columns and then below those three columns I want another div with spacing
between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this correctly?
Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top but
that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Rob Wilkerson
I prefer using margin when I'm creating space between containers and padding
when I'm trying to create space between content and the container edge.  I
just find it easier to think about that way, I guess.  I don't know why
margin isn't working for you, though.  Can you post a *snippet* of the css?

On 3/23/07, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
 something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
 center
 columns and then below those three columns I want another div with spacing
 between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this correctly?
 Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
 but
 that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.



















 Any help appreciated







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Re: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Jose Diaz
Hi Doug

Yeah I would use something like


#bottomContent {
width: 600px;
padding-top: 10px;
background: #ff;
}



HTH



Jose Diaz


On 3/23/07, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
 something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
 center
 columns and then below those three columns I want another div with spacing
 between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this correctly?
 Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
 but
 that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.



















 Any help appreciated







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RE: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Doug Brown
Rob,

Actually the margin-top works in IE but breaks in FF

div id=container
div id=mainMain Column/div
div id=leftcolumnLeft column/div
div id=rightcolumnRight column/div
div id=threecolumnbottomThe column/div
/div


body, form, p   {
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
}
#container  {
width: 970px;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
}
#leftcolumn {
width: 140px;
border: 1px solid #000;
float: left;
margin-left: -828px;
background-color: Gray;
}
#rightcolumn{
width: 140px;
border: 1px solid #000;
float: left;
background-color: Fuchsia;
}
#threecolumnbottom  {
margin-top: 100px;
width: 968px;
border: 1px solid #000;
}
#main   {
width: 664px;
margin-left: 152px;
margin-right: 10px;
float: left;
border: 1px solid #000;
display: inline;
background-color: Lime;
text-align: center;
}

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From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: css n00b question

I prefer using margin when I'm creating space between containers and padding
when I'm trying to create space between content and the container edge.  I
just find it easier to think about that way, I guess.  I don't know why
margin isn't working for you, though.  Can you post a *snippet* of the css?

On 3/23/07, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
 something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
 center
 columns and then below those three columns I want another div with spacing
 between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this correctly?
 Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
 but
 that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.



















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RE: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hello Doug,

I'm unable to test this, but you may want to try something like this.

div class=col
/div
div class=col
/div
div class=col
/div
div class=clearer/div
div class=bottom
/div

div.col {
float:left;
margin-right:10px;
}

div.clearer {
clear:both;
}

div.bottom {
margin-top:10px;
}

Give it a shot.

Rob
-Original Message-
From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2007 13:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: css n00b question

I prefer using margin when I'm creating space between containers and padding
when I'm trying to create space between content and the container edge.  I
just find it easier to think about that way, I guess.  I don't know why
margin isn't working for you, though.  Can you post a *snippet* of the css?

On 3/23/07, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
 something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
 center
 columns and then below those three columns I want another div with spacing
 between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this correctly?
 Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
 but
 that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.



















 Any help appreciated







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Re: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Jose Diaz
Hi Doug

Sorry Margin is correct lol ignore my previous post ;)

Jose


On 3/23/07, Jose Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Doug

 Yeah I would use something like


 #bottomContent
 {
 width: 600px;
 padding-top: 10px;
 background: #ff ;
 }



 HTH



 Jose Diaz


 On 3/23/07, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
  something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
  center
  columns and then below those three columns I want another div with
  spacing
  between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this
  correctly?
  Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
  but
  that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Any help appreciated
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Doug
 
 
 
  

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RE: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Andy Matthews
Unable to test? Don't have a browser installed on your computer?

:) 

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Hello Doug,

I'm unable to test this, but you may want to try something like this.



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Re: Web Server Configuration Tool

2007-03-23 Thread Andy Allan
You don't ... you simply need wsconfig.jar

You may need to modify security.properties if your web/app servers are on
different subnets.

Andy

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 physical server.  So, just to get this straight in my head how it would
 work:
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 was installed and the CF application was deployed.  I wouldn't even need
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Re: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Jose Diaz
Hi Doug

Rob is spot on with the clear suggestion, i had a similar problem and have
just checked what I did and the solution was:


..clear
{
clear:both
}

Jose



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 Unable to test? Don't have a browser installed on your computer?

 :)

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 Hello Doug,

 I'm unable to test this, but you may want to try something like this.



 

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RE: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
No, no, I'm just lazy ;-)

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Unable to test? Don't have a browser installed on your computer?

:) 

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Hello Doug,

I'm unable to test this, but you may want to try something like this.





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RE: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Doug Brown
Robert,


Thanks a lot that seems to do the trick...Back to the learning drawing board
:)



Doug

-Original Message-
From: Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: css n00b question

Hello Doug,

I'm unable to test this, but you may want to try something like this.

div class=col
/div
div class=col
/div
div class=col
/div
div class=clearer/div
div class=bottom
/div

div.col {
float:left;
margin-right:10px;
}

div.clearer {
clear:both;
}

div.bottom {
margin-top:10px;
}

Give it a shot.

Rob
-Original Message-
From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2007 13:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: css n00b question

I prefer using margin when I'm creating space between containers and padding
when I'm trying to create space between content and the container edge.  I
just find it easier to think about that way, I guess.  I don't know why
margin isn't working for you, though.  Can you post a *snippet* of the css?

On 3/23/07, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
 something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
 center
 columns and then below those three columns I want another div with spacing
 between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this correctly?
 Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
 but
 that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.



















 Any help appreciated







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Coldfusion MX7.2 and IBM Websphere 6.1

2007-03-23 Thread Eyad makhoul
Hi,

we have tried to deploy coldfusion mx 7.2 on IBM websphere 6.1. unfortunatly we 
found security issues. can anyone give us the correct steps how to install 
coldfusion on IBM websphere or does anyone faced the same problem and what was 
the solution.

Thanks

Eyad Makhoul

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RE: OT: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Glad to hear it Doug,

If you've got any other questions then feel free to ask :-D Once you get
your head around CSS you'll fall in love with it.

Rob

-Original Message-
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Sent: 23 March 2007 13:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: css n00b question

Robert,


Thanks a lot that seems to do the trick...Back to the learning drawing board
:)



Doug

-Original Message-
From: Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: css n00b question

Hello Doug,

I'm unable to test this, but you may want to try something like this.

div class=col
/div
div class=col
/div
div class=col
/div
div class=clearer/div
div class=bottom
/div

div.col {
float:left;
margin-right:10px;
}

div.clearer {
clear:both;
}

div.bottom {
margin-top:10px;
}

Give it a shot.

Rob
-Original Message-
From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2007 13:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: css n00b question

I prefer using margin when I'm creating space between containers and padding
when I'm trying to create space between content and the container edge.  I
just find it easier to think about that way, I guess.  I don't know why
margin isn't working for you, though.  Can you post a *snippet* of the css?

On 3/23/07, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
 something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
 center
 columns and then below those three columns I want another div with spacing
 between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this correctly?
 Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
 but
 that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.



















 Any help appreciated







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Re: SOT: Getting Started with Flex

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 23 Mar 2007, Rob Wilkerson wrote:
 Anyone willing to hook me up with some info?

You might try asking over on FlexCoders (@ Yahoo Groups).

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Re: SOT: Getting Started with Flex

2007-03-23 Thread Rob Wilkerson
Thanks, Tom.  I'll venture over there.

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 On Friday 23 Mar 2007, Rob Wilkerson wrote:
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RE: WDDX v.s. CF 7 XML functionality

2007-03-23 Thread Tero Pikala
In my opinion value of WDDX today is ability to quickly convert complex data
types to predefined XML format.  There are times when you just need query as
XML without paying too much attention how it's actually structured. 


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While having a few legacy apps myself making use of WDDX, I was wondering if
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7.02. Seems like opedwddx.org is pretty stale.

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RE: Sitemaps

2007-03-23 Thread Ben Nadel
This might be a ghetto approach, but to get a general idea, maybe to a
domain-specific search in google with no keywords... And just check the
results count:

Ex:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abennadel.com 


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Is anyone aware of a product that can accurately count how many pages
are on a web server for a specific domain? I am not looking to create a
web-based sitemap but to know how many (.htm, .cfm, etc.) pages exist
without having to count by hand.

 

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Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Jeff Small
Okay, so I write a CFC. I set access=remote and poof, I have a web service... 
right?

So if I write a method, let's say, getComics() and it returns a query 
object... well, that's just not going to work for people who aren't using CF, 
right? I mean, if I'm using CF and invoking the method using the web service 
url, I can output it, dump it, loop thru it, etc. But, if I'm using something 
other than CF, I wouldn't have any way to move thru that data, would I? In 
other words, PHP doesn't know what a ColdFusion Query object is.

What's the approach here? What's the next step to making something that people 
using .net or PHP can return and use? 

Apologies in advance if this has already been rehashed before, but I'm 
genuinely kinda stumped about how to proceed, and I'm not even sure really 
where to go next for the next step here that I've obviously stumbled onto... 
I know the short answer HAS to be XML, but I'm not quite sure *how*...


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Re: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 23 Mar 2007, Jeff Small wrote:
 So if I write a method, let's say, getComics() and it returns a query
 object... well, that's just not going to work for people who aren't using
 CF, right? 

Not well, no.

 What's the approach here? What's the next step to making something that
 people using .net or PHP can return and use?

Create an array of transfer objects (objects with just cfproperty tags) or 
convert it to XML.

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RE: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Brad Wood
Nice try-- I thought that too.

I set my default page time out in the settings page of cfadmin (that's
what you meant, right?) to something crazy like 1 seconds, and it
STILL timed out after only a couple minutes.

~Brad


if i recall correctly, that's a cf process that takes quite a long time
but the 
admin code that handles this doesn't set the timeout value before it
runs. try 
manually increasing the timeout value, then run the deploy.

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Re: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Jeff Small
  What's the approach here? What's the next step to making something that
  people using .net or PHP can return and use?

 Create an array of transfer objects (objects with just cfproperty tags) or
 convert it to XML.

Any pages anyone can recommend dealing with this? Tutorials? Best Practices, 
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RE: Web Server Configuration Tool

2007-03-23 Thread Brad Wood
Thanks Andy.  Can you point me in the direction of any
articles/technotes which detail that process?

I'm not quite sure what I would so with that .jar file.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Web Server Configuration Tool

You don't ... you simply need wsconfig.jar

You may need to modify security.properties if your web/app servers are
on
different subnets.

Andy

On 23/03/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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wrote:

 I would be interested in hearing the approach in detail. We are moving
to
 a
 tiered approach like this and I am sure you do not need ColdFusion on
the
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Re: CFQUERY vs SQL Server Stored Procedures

2007-03-23 Thread Teddy Payne
Cached queries will execute faster than stored procedures in many cases.

The problem of queries inside of ColdFusion deals directly with looping over
the data of performing a Query of a Query against the data set.

I tend to stay away from Query of a Query as the performance is not to my
liking.

The real problem is when you have data from two different data sets from two
database servers that are not linked.  Unless you perform an extract of the
data and move it regularly, you will have an intermediary step of having
ColdFusion combined data sets.

Cached queries also introduce limitations.  You set in the administrator how
many cached queries to store in RAM.  Database servers do not give you this
limitation.  In the SQL Server land, the execution plan of a stored
procedure is calculated once and stored there.  This does not affect your CF
server and also gives you flexibility.  You do have to query the database,
but recalculation similar to the first cached query creation is the cost.
If you are on a shared host, this could make your life easier.

Now there is the business and model approach.  I tend to use CF to handle
framework dynamics and display logic.  if I cannot abstract business logic
into a CFC domain, I will keep it in the stored procedure.  I tend to choose
one or the other.  I would consider this a good practice that I would
recommend, but again it is my recommendation and you can take it for a grain
of salt.  Business logic really should be centralized so you can change
configurations, rules and flow easily.

As for performance gain, I typically see about a 25-30% performance boost
when using cached queries.  Now this sounds great, but the data set was 40K
records and returned by a cached query and a stored procedure.  They both
executed in less than 100ms.  In more business to business setting, this is
negligible for the most part.  Facing pages on high performing sites should
tweak as much as they can.

My other case for stored procedures is the increased functionality and
control over my data.  TSQL in the SQL Server realm gives me additional
logic and commands to get low level information.  ETL based tools like DTS
and SSIS being invoked from my stored procedures creates automation
avenues.  Built in mail support can alleviate taxing my CF server on data
notifications.


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 There are two reasons my organization encourages/forces all SQL to be in
 stored procedures. And they don't directly touch on performance.

 1. A belief that keeping SQL code in the database is of itself a good
 thing.
 By keeping the database interaction in the database you make it easier for
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RE: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Heald, Timothy J
XML is the right answer.

I'm not sure how well WDDX is supported across platforms, I know it was
an open standard, but I remember something about there being version
differences.  If it's all caught up you could simply serialize it using
the built in WDDX functions and pass it that way.

Or you could just use the XML functions in CF to create your own model
that works with the data you're transferring.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

Okay, so I write a CFC. I set access=remote and poof, I have a web
service... right?

So if I write a method, let's say, getComics() and it returns a query
object... well, that's just not going to work for people who aren't
using CF, right? I mean, if I'm using CF and invoking the method using
the web service url, I can output it, dump it, loop thru it, etc. But,
if I'm using something other than CF, I wouldn't have any way to move
thru that data, would I? In other words, PHP doesn't know what a
ColdFusion Query object is.

What's the approach here? What's the next step to making something that
people using .net or PHP can return and use? 

Apologies in advance if this has already been rehashed before, but I'm
genuinely kinda stumped about how to proceed, and I'm not even sure
really where to go next for the next step here that I've obviously
stumbled onto... I know the short answer HAS to be XML, but I'm not
quite sure *how*...




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Re: New Features In Scorpio

2007-03-23 Thread Aaron Rouse
Not when your bosses bosses boss already are disgruntled with what support
they got when an issue came up.

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  CF support is just in the community anyway.  I know the few times we
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  tried using official support that was paid for by our company we usually
  still got no solution or discovered the community could provide quicker
 or
  better support.

 I had a similar discussion last week :-)
 Free support might be better, but the fact you can turn to (your bosses
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RE: Web Server Configuration Tool

2007-03-23 Thread Brad Wood
OK, so I am still hoping for other's input, but I have been doing some
Googling on my own.

Here is the live docs for Running the Web Server Configuration tool
http://livedocs.adobe.com/jrun/4/Installing_JRun/servconf3.htm 


It tells me I must install JRUN, and gives me this page:
http://livedocs.adobe.com/jrun/4/Installing_JRun/install.htm#1132147

But installing JRUN requires a serial number and, well-- it puts the
whole JRUN environment on that server complete with the JMC. 

Nowhere did I see anything that said, Oh by the way you can still run
the wsconfig WITHOUT installing all of JRUN.

I'm sure it is possible, just not documented to well.  Please do advise.
:)

~Brad


-Original Message-
From: Brad Wood 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Web Server Configuration Tool

Thanks Andy.  Can you point me in the direction of any
articles/technotes which detail that process?

I'm not quite sure what I would so with that .jar file.

~Brad

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You don't ... you simply need wsconfig.jar

You may need to modify security.properties if your web/app servers are
on
different subnets.

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Re: Web Server Configuration Tool

2007-03-23 Thread Andy Allan
I don't think there is any :/

Install CF on your app server, then copy the wsconfig.jar to your
webserver - it can go anywhere - but maybe stick it in something like
d:/jrun4/lib

Then you simply run:
java -jar d:\jrun4\lib\wsconfig.jar ADD OTHER ATTRIBUTES -host
IP_ADDRESS_OF_APP_SERVER

It's not quite as simply as that, but thats the starting point.

Andy

On 23/03/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Andy.  Can you point me in the direction of any
 articles/technotes which detail that process?

 I'm not quite sure what I would so with that .jar file.

 ~Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Web Server Configuration Tool

 You don't ... you simply need wsconfig.jar

 You may need to modify security.properties if your web/app servers are
 on
 different subnets.

 Andy

 On 23/03/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I would be interested in hearing the approach in detail. We are moving
 to
  a
  tiered approach like this and I am sure you do not need ColdFusion on
 the
  Web Server at all.
 

 

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RE: Web Server Configuration Tool

2007-03-23 Thread Brad Wood
Thanks Andy, that helps.  Do I need a JRE installed on the web server?
Also, since this is a Windows server 2003 OS, can I use the wsconfig.exe
I keep seeing.  It seems I see wsconfig.jar and wsconfig.exe used
interchangeably.  I would much prefer the GUI than the command line.

~Brad

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From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Web Server Configuration Tool

I don't think there is any :/

Install CF on your app server, then copy the wsconfig.jar to your
webserver - it can go anywhere - but maybe stick it in something like
d:/jrun4/lib

Then you simply run:
java -jar d:\jrun4\lib\wsconfig.jar ADD OTHER ATTRIBUTES -host
IP_ADDRESS_OF_APP_SERVER

It's not quite as simply as that, but thats the starting point.

Andy

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CFOBJECT calling Word.Application for Spell checker problem

2007-03-23 Thread James Buckingham
Hi guys,

I'm currently migrating some of our applications from CF5.0/Win'2000 to 
CFMX7.02/Win' 2003.

I've hit a problem with one of the pages which uses a CFOBJECT to call 
Microsoft Word's Spell checker and runs the page content through it. The CF5.0 
server used Word 97 but I've installed Word 2007 on the new server.

The page is giving me the following error:

An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.  

The cause of this exception was that: AutomationException: 0x80080005 - Server 
execution failed. Note that Windows 95 does not support automatic launch of a 
server, it must be running already.

I found this article on something similiar which seems to think that the 
problem is related to DCOM permissions not being setup...

http://cf-bill.blogspot.com/2006/08/instantiating-excel-com-component.html

I've now done this but I'm still getting the error message.

The code I'm using to call this is:
cfobject action=create type=com class=Word.Application name=objWord

Has anybody else been able to resolve this or have any suggestions?

Cheers,
James

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Re: OT: Sitemaps

2007-03-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
If your domains are stored in a logical tree on disk (and dont have
tons of virtual mappings), you should be able to use OS tools to get a
file count.

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 Is anyone aware of a product that can accurately count how many pages
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Re: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 23 Mar 2007, Jeff Small wrote:
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RE: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Dave Watts
   What's the approach here? What's the next step to making 
   something that people using .net or PHP can return and use?
 
  Create an array of transfer objects (objects with just cfproperty 
  tags) or convert it to XML.

 Any pages anyone can recommend dealing with this? Tutorials? 
 Best Practices, etc? Beuller? Beuller? 

If I recall correctly, it's actually discussed directly within the CF
documentation. But basically, it boils down to creating CFC instances to
replace structures. For example, if you wanted to have information about a
person in a structure, you would instead define and use a CFC to represent
that information. Your CFC would have nothing but CFPROPERTY tags, which
would essentially be used to provide named properties that would correspond
to your structure keys; something like this:

cfcomponent
cfproperty name=FirstName type=string ...
cfproperty name=LastName type=string ...
/cfcomponent

Then, within your web service, instead of returning a structure (or an array
of structures), you'd return a Person object (or an array of Person
objects).

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RE: Coldfusion MX7.2 and IBM Websphere 6.1

2007-03-23 Thread Dave Watts
 we have tried to deploy coldfusion mx 7.2 on IBM websphere 
 6.1. unfortunatly we found security issues. can anyone give 
 us the correct steps how to install coldfusion on IBM 
 websphere or does anyone faced the same problem and what was 
 the solution.

Can you be more specific about the problem you had?

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RE: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Brad Wood
So nobody has any other ideas on this one, huh?
How about this question:  has anyone out there EVER archived a site as
an EAR or WAR and deployed it as a new instance elsewhere?
Did it work for you?
Did you get any timeouts at all?

This is driving me crazy-- it's like there's this really cool feature
right in front of me, but it blows up at step one and no one acts like
they have ever seen this before.

What is the average size of an EAR or WAR?  (Mine was about 120 Megs)
How long SHOULD it take to deploy?  1 minute?  5 Minutes?  30 minutes?

~Brad

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Enterprise

Nice try-- I thought that too.

I set my default page time out in the settings page of cfadmin (that's
what you meant, right?) to something crazy like 1 seconds, and it
STILL timed out after only a couple minutes.

~Brad


if i recall correctly, that's a cf process that takes quite a long time
but the 
admin code that handles this doesn't set the timeout value before it
runs. try 
manually increasing the timeout value, then run the deploy.

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RE: Sitemaps

2007-03-23 Thread Dave Watts
 Is anyone aware of a product that can accurately count how 
 many pages are on a web server for a specific domain? I am 
 not looking to create a web-based sitemap but to know how 
 many (.htm, .cfm, etc.) pages exist without having to count 
 by hand.

Assuming they're all in the same directory (or subdirectories of that
directory, of course), you can simply open a command prompt and type dir
*.cfm /s to find how many CF files there are.

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RE: Web Server Configuration Tool

2007-03-23 Thread Dave Watts
 So, I'm toying around with CF Enterprise and it is a lot of fun.
 Specifically I am experimenting with the instance manager and 
 such.  So, one thing I never knew you could do was to have a 
 web server (IIS) on one physical computer bound to a CF 
 instance (or cluster) on another physical server.  So, just 
 to get this straight in my head how it would
 work:
 I would run the Web Server Configuration Tool on the web 
 server and specify the DNS name or IP address of the 
 application server where JRUN was installed and the CF 
 application was deployed.  I wouldn't even need to have CF 
 installed on the web server-- but wait a minute-- the Web 
 Server Configuration Tool is part of the CFMX install.  Even 
 if I wasn't going to run my CF application from that server, 
 would I still have to install it just to use the Web Server 
 Configuration Tool?  Would I need a license for that install? 
  Is there another way to bind my web server to my CF 
 instance/cluster without using the Web Server Configuration Tool?

The approach that's been recommended to me in the past by Adobe/MM people
was to install CF on both servers, and turn off CF services on the web
server. My understanding has been that no additional license is required in
this case.

That said, I don't see why you couldn't copy the wsconfig.jar file from one
server to the other, and run it manually. The web server configuration tool
is just one file - wsconfig.jar. You will, of course, need some JVM on this
other server to run this Java program, but there may already be one
installed.

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Re: CFOBJECT calling Word.Application for Spell checker problem

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 23 Mar 2007, James Buckingham wrote:
 CF5.0 server used Word 97 but I've installed Word 2007 on the new server.
...
 Has anybody else been able to resolve this or have any suggestions?

Yeah, install Word 97.

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Re: Hah? BlogCFC / BlogCFM

2007-03-23 Thread Dwayne Cole
If I were to decide to start a blog today, I'd go with Ray's BlogCFC.

Rick


Thanks Rick. This is what I wanted to hear and who better to hear from.  
Talking about the word from the horses mouth :)

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Displaying a quicktime movie from a CF-based website

2007-03-23 Thread Pete
Hi there

I'm just wondering if anyone has displayed quicktime movies on a website.

Can they advise whay is required to do so - I have tried a few options but
as of yet with no success.

Wondering if anyone might know what is required.

Thanks in advance

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Re: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Brad Wood wrote:
 So nobody has any other ideas on this one, huh?
 How about this question:  has anyone out there EVER archived a site as
 an EAR or WAR and deployed it as a new instance elsewhere?

We never archive sites, we always create EAR files directly from SVN 
with Ant.


 Did it work for you?

Yes.


 Did you get any timeouts at all?

Never.


 This is driving me crazy-- it's like there's this really cool feature
 right in front of me, but it blows up at step one and no one acts like
 they have ever seen this before.
 
 What is the average size of an EAR or WAR?

A clean and stripped 7.02 EAR is 67 MB excluding all code but including 
the CF Administrator. If you compile your code the size in bytes of your 
templates usually doubles.


 How long SHOULD it take to deploy?  1 minute?  5 Minutes?  30 minutes?

We don't exactly deploy them but just dump them in the root of the JRun 
instance and cycle the instance. That takes about 1 minute.

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Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, all...

Well, what I figured was going to happen is happening.

There seems to be an emphasis in Scorpio in increasing
the number of pre-built components, especially are Ajax
functionality.

And the Ajax bug has finally bitten me, via jQuery, but I'm
running into limitations about what I can do server-side
with CF 4.5...

I'm planning to upgrade Scorpio when it becomes available
proves itself reliable, but I want to use Ajax functionality
now with CF 4.5 sp2

Is WDDX is the only option for accomplishing this with
4.5?

I've been working with jQuery and using Ajax to send
info to .cfm pages for processing, but I'm bumping up
against the need to implement Ajax functionality on
the server back to jQuery.

Am I just out of luck without Json or is it worth the effort
to develop in WDDX (if appropriate for my situation)
until Scorpio is released?

Perhaps there are free versions of a CF Server
(Coral Web Builder, Smith Project, and one more I can't
think of that is free) that can be utilized until Scorpio
becomes available?

Thanks for some perspective on this matter...

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RE: css n00b question

2007-03-23 Thread Craig Dudley
Assuming your three columns above are all floated to the left, try 

div style=clear: both;margin-top: 20px;/div

-Original Message-
From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 March 2007 13:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: css n00b question

I am trying my first css design and was wondering how to accomplish
something. Say I have a container div which contains left, right and
center
columns and then below those three columns I want another div with
spacing
between the three columns above it, how would I accomplish this
correctly?
Would I use padding-top on the bottom div? I have tried using margin-top
but
that moves all the divs down and not just that one div.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Deploying Fusebox application as a J2EE war/ear

2007-03-23 Thread Tero Pikala
Hi

Does anyone have experience with deploying Fusebox application as a war? 

Thing that I'm mostly concerned is moving parsed directory outside of
application root directory since it's now inside war and can't be written
into (or at least shouldn't be written to if it's possible)


Thanks



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Re: CFOBJECT calling Word.Application for Spell checker problem

2007-03-23 Thread James Buckingham
Thanks Tom. Just looking into that as an option but I currently can't remove 
2007 off the server. It's throwing errors in the uninstall so I thought I'd 
stick with it just now and see if I can get 07 to work with it.

 On Friday 23 Mar 2007, James Buckingham wrote:
  CF5.0 server used Word 97 but I've installed Word 2007 on the new 
 server.
...
 
  Has anybody else been able to resolve this or have any suggestions?
 
 Yeah, install Word 97.
 
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Re: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Jeff Small
 If I recall correctly, it's actually discussed directly within the CF
 documentation. But basically, it boils down to creating CFC instances to
 replace structures. For example, if you wanted to have information about a
 person in a structure, you would instead define and use a CFC to represent
 that information. Your CFC would have nothing but CFPROPERTY tags, which
 would essentially be used to provide named properties that would 
 correspond
 to your structure keys; something like this:

 cfcomponent
 cfproperty name=FirstName type=string ...
 cfproperty name=LastName type=string ...
 /cfcomponent

Man, I've re-read that three times now, and I'm just NOT following it. I'm 
so sorry Dave, but isn't the CFC the webservice? So you'd call for instance, 
getPerson() but that's not a method?

 Then, within your web service, instead of returning a structure (or an 
 array
 of structures), you'd return a Person object (or an array of Person
 objects).

But would an object be a cross platform object simply because I said it 
was? Who defines what a person object is? Is a person object the same in 
PHP as it is in CF as it is in .Net?

Again, I apologize, but there seems to be something here that I'm just 
missing.

This all stems from a web service that I'm trying to access that's just not 
returning ANYTHING that resembles the results I'm expecting. So I decided to 
just try and write my own web service that could be invoked remotely and 
return live data. I got that working really easily, but then realized that I 
was just returning CF objects (structs, arrays, query objects) that were 
fine in CF, but would be worthless to anyone else. That's when I started to 
realize that maybe there's a problem with the form of the data that this web 
service was returning, and I started down this road... I just haven't had an 
opportunity to work with WSDL and web services or XML very much, so I'm just 
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Re: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Christopher Jordan
Rick,

What are you missing that has to do with JSON? Will jsonencode() and 
jsondecode() not work for you on 4.5? I know I've taken part in a couple 
of your threads on this similar subject, but I forget. Those two 
functions are UDFs that you can obtain from CFLib.org... oh wait. Does 
4.5 have UDFs?

Chris

Rick Faircloth wrote:
 Hi, all...
 
 Well, what I figured was going to happen is happening.
 
 There seems to be an emphasis in Scorpio in increasing
 the number of pre-built components, especially are Ajax
 functionality.
 
 And the Ajax bug has finally bitten me, via jQuery, but I'm
 running into limitations about what I can do server-side
 with CF 4.5...
 
 I'm planning to upgrade Scorpio when it becomes available
 proves itself reliable, but I want to use Ajax functionality
 now with CF 4.5 sp2
 
 Is WDDX is the only option for accomplishing this with
 4.5?
 
 I've been working with jQuery and using Ajax to send
 info to .cfm pages for processing, but I'm bumping up
 against the need to implement Ajax functionality on
 the server back to jQuery.
 
 Am I just out of luck without Json or is it worth the effort
 to develop in WDDX (if appropriate for my situation)
 until Scorpio is released?
 
 Perhaps there are free versions of a CF Server
 (Coral Web Builder, Smith Project, and one more I can't
 think of that is free) that can be utilized until Scorpio
 becomes available?
 
 Thanks for some perspective on this matter...
 
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RE: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Dave Watts
 And the Ajax bug has finally bitten me, via jQuery, but I'm 
 running into limitations about what I can do server-side with 
 CF 4.5...

There's no reason why you can't use AJAX functionality with CF 4.5. AJAX
function calls simply return text. Newer versions of CF provide amenities,
like CFCs and native XML handling, but you can still generate whatever text
you like in CF 4.5. It will be up to you to make sure that the text contains
valid XML, or JavaScript objects, or whatever your AJAX library expects to
receive.

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Re: Displaying a quicktime movie from a CF-based website

2007-03-23 Thread Josh Nathanson
The standard object and embed tags seem to work ok for me, what problem 
are you having exactly?

Below is some code I used to dynamically load a Quicktime movie (sorry about 
the all caps):

OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B WIDTH=240 
HEIGHT=196
CODEBASE=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab;
PARAM name=SRC VALUE=about/news/video/#url.vid#
PARAM name=AUTOPLAY VALUE=true
PARAM name=CONTROLLER VALUE=true
EMBED SRC=about/news/video/#url.vid# WIDTH=240 HEIGHT=196 
AUTOPLAY=true CONTROLLER=true 
PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 /EMBED
  /OBJECT

Of course the end viewer needs to have the Quicktime browser plugin for it 
to work...

-- Josh


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From: Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Displaying a quicktime movie from a CF-based website


 Hi there

 I'm just wondering if anyone has displayed quicktime movies on a website.

 Can they advise whay is required to do so - I have tried a few options but
 as of yet with no success.

 Wondering if anyone might know what is required.

 Thanks in advance

 P



 

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Re: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Peter Boughton
Perhaps there are free versions of a CF Server
(Coral Web Builder, Smith Project, and one more I can't
think of that is free) that can be utilized until Scorpio
becomes available?

Railo is free for community, low-budget business, and developer use, and has a 
very cheap professional edition (€200).

I suspect IgniteFusion is the freeware one you're thinking of. I've looked at 
that and wasn't too impressed; whilst I haven't done a proper evaluation of 
them, I suspect Smith might be better.

Coral Web Builder isn't free, it costs $225, plus $50 for each developer 
license.


Unfortunately I haven't really looked at jQuery yet, so can't tell you which of 
these might be most suitable.




Hi, all...

Well, what I figured was going to happen is happening.

There seems to be an emphasis in Scorpio in increasing
the number of pre-built components, especially are Ajax
functionality.

And the Ajax bug has finally bitten me, via jQuery, but I'm
running into limitations about what I can do server-side
with CF 4.5...

I'm planning to upgrade Scorpio when it becomes available
proves itself reliable, but I want to use Ajax functionality
now with CF 4.5 sp2

Is WDDX is the only option for accomplishing this with
4.5?

I've been working with jQuery and using Ajax to send
info to .cfm pages for processing, but I'm bumping up
against the need to implement Ajax functionality on
the server back to jQuery.

Am I just out of luck without Json or is it worth the effort
to develop in WDDX (if appropriate for my situation)
until Scorpio is released?

Perhaps there are free versions of a CF Server
(Coral Web Builder, Smith Project, and one more I can't
think of that is free) that can be utilized until Scorpio
becomes available?

Thanks for some perspective on this matter...

Rick

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RE: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Dave Watts
 Man, I've re-read that three times now, and I'm just NOT 
 following it. I'm so sorry Dave, but isn't the CFC the 
 webservice? So you'd call for instance, getPerson() but 
 that's not a method?

You'd have a CFC that contains the web service method(s), and that CFC would
use another CFC to define the return value datatype. The CFC example that I
included would be the latter one, which just contains CFPROPERTY tags. Your
getPerson method would return one of these CFC instances instead of
returning a structure.

 But would an object be a cross platform object simply 
 because I said it was? Who defines what a person object is? 
 Is a person object the same in PHP as it is in CF as it is 
 in .Net?

The point of SOAP is to take care of these things for you. (If only it did a
better job at this!) So, yes, your person object would have the same
attributes regardless of the language.

 This all stems from a web service that I'm trying to access 
 that's just not returning ANYTHING that resembles the results 
 I'm expecting. So I decided to just try and write my own web 
 service that could be invoked remotely and return live data. 
 I got that working really easily, but then realized that I 
 was just returning CF objects (structs, arrays, query 
 objects) that were fine in CF, but would be worthless to 
 anyone else. That's when I started to realize that maybe 
 there's a problem with the form of the data that this web 
 service was returning, and I started down this road... I just 
 haven't had an opportunity to work with WSDL and web services 
 or XML very much, so I'm just in WAY unfamiliar territory...

Queries and structures aren't defined in SOAP, but arrays are. If you define
custom objects as described previously, and use those in place of
structures, those will be properly represented in SOAP.

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Re: CFOBJECT calling Word.Application for Spell checker problem

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 23 Mar 2007, James Buckingham wrote:
 Thanks Tom. Just looking into that as an option but I currently can't
 remove 2007 off the server. It's throwing errors in the uninstall so I
 thought I'd stick with it just now and see if I can get 07 to work with it.

And people ask me why I prefer Linux servers :-)

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RE: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread kola.oyedeji
 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So nobody has any other ideas on this one, huh?
 How about this question:  has anyone out there EVER archived a site as
 an EAR or WAR and deployed it as a new instance elsewhere?
 Did it work for you?
 Did you get any timeouts at all?
 

Disable the timeout option in the ColdFusion administrator then attempt to
deploy it again.

As Jochem mentioned, he's had success doing it and you can read about it
here:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/ear.html

Hope that helps

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Re: Just a question/discussion point RE: Web services..

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 23 Mar 2007, Jeff Small wrote:
 Man, I've re-read that three times now, and I'm just NOT following it. I'm
 so sorry Dave, but isn't the CFC the webservice? So you'd call for
 instance, getPerson() but that's not a method?

Yes, the CFC is the webservice, yes it has a method getPerson() you can call 
from .Net or whatever.
Inside the CFC, you do:

cfquery name=q 
select first,last
from people
...
/cf
cfset ret= ArrayNew()
cfloop query=q
cfset ret[q.currentRow]=createObject('component','com.valueObject')
cfset ret[q.currentRow].firstname=q.first
cfset ret[q.currentRow].lastname=q.last
/cf...
cfreturn ret /

 But would an object be a cross platform object simply because I said it
 was? 

Because you said so :-)
The cfproperty's get built into the WSDL that other people use to connect to 
the webservice, so they know what you mean by 'person'.
Open the WSDL in your favourite plain text editor and you should recognise 
(some) bits of it straight off.

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RE: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Brad Wood
Interesting.  So it looks like nobody actually USES the create new
instance from war file in CF...

So Jochem, if I create a new empty instance, do I just dump the EAR file
in there and restart?  Is that all?  Is there any documentation anywhere
on this? (Sadly there doesn't seem to be much documentation on anything
anymore...)

When you deploy do you delete the old cfusion.ear folder, or is it
replaced automatically? 

Do you place the new EAR at the same level of the cfusion.ear folder?
For instance:  C:\JRun4\servers\myinstancename\new_archive_to_deploy.ear

I REALLY want to see this work, and right now CF ADMIN is absolutely
useless to me with it's ever-so-helpful The request has exceeded the
allowable time limit Tag: cfoutput  message.  (My default timeout is
set to 5000 seconds, but it times out after only a few minutes every
time).

Thanks.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Enterprise

Brad Wood wrote:
 So nobody has any other ideas on this one, huh?
 How about this question:  has anyone out there EVER archived a site as
 an EAR or WAR and deployed it as a new instance elsewhere?

We never archive sites, we always create EAR files directly from SVN 
with Ant.

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Re: Hah? BlogCFC / BlogCFM

2007-03-23 Thread Raymond Camden
And I'd use Rick's blog.

So now what do you do?  ;)

(just kidding btw :)

On 3/23/07, Dwayne Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I were to decide to start a blog today, I'd go with Ray's BlogCFC.
 
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RE: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Tero Pikala
Jochem, 

Do mean that you have EAR folder structure somewhere waiting and you then
add everything related to your application there and package it to EAR file?


That sounds like a good approach, I just tested creating couple of archives
and I really wasn't too pleased how for example all custom tags were just
automatically included. I would definitely prefer to just define Ant target
that does everything I need. 


Tero Pikala



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Sent: 23 March 2007 15:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Enterprise

Brad Wood wrote:
 So nobody has any other ideas on this one, huh?
 How about this question:  has anyone out there EVER archived a site as
 an EAR or WAR and deployed it as a new instance elsewhere?

We never archive sites, we always create EAR files directly from SVN 
with Ant.


 Did it work for you?

Yes.


 Did you get any timeouts at all?

Never.


 This is driving me crazy-- it's like there's this really cool feature
 right in front of me, but it blows up at step one and no one acts like
 they have ever seen this before.
 
 What is the average size of an EAR or WAR?

A clean and stripped 7.02 EAR is 67 MB excluding all code but including 
the CF Administrator. If you compile your code the size in bytes of your 
templates usually doubles.


 How long SHOULD it take to deploy?  1 minute?  5 Minutes?  30 minutes?

We don't exactly deploy them but just dump them in the root of the JRun 
instance and cycle the instance. That takes about 1 minute.

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Re: Converting CMYK images to RGB

2007-03-23 Thread Jack Dalaa
Well, this took some time to figure out, but I found a program which can 
convert images (and a lot of other stuff) via the command prompt. 
http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php

convert C:\photos\cmyk.jpg -profile C:\icc\EuropeISOCoatedFOGRA27.icc 
-profile C:\icc\sRGB Color Space Profile.icm C:\photos\rgb.jpg

... which is simply called with cfexecute. And it works, and because it can use 
the color profiles, the colors in the resulting converted image are actually 
pretty decent. 

Only trouble is that it is fairly slow, with high resolution images causing 
time-outs. I'm not sure if that's really something we can live with, but for 
now, this will be the way to go.


Jack

If you get an answer to this let me know.

I've been trying to solve this one for years and finally gave up...

The best I was ever able to do was to detect if an image was CMYK...

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Re: Miss CF days / seriously considering getting back to it

2007-03-23 Thread donli
Thank you, Tom.

Don
 On Thursday 22 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Broadly speaking, am I miss something critical inthe CF world for 
 the
  following sketch?
 
 No, that about covers it :-)
 I just wanted to check you picked up on Flex and Apollo too - these 
 make it 
 easy to build very nice web and desktop GUIs, and hook straight into 
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Re: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Brad Wood wrote:
 Interesting.  So it looks like nobody actually USES the create new
 instance from war file in CF...

It doesn't give me enough control. I always set up instances with their 
own jvm.config and a properties file specific for that instance.


 So Jochem, if I create a new empty instance, do I just dump the EAR file
 in there and restart?  Is that all?

Yes. You will probably need to correct some paths in the CF 
Administrator after it started.


 Is there any documentation anywhere
 on this? (Sadly there doesn't seem to be much documentation on anything
 anymore...)

No. It is not officially supported and if you follow the manual you need 
to deploy your application through the JRun management console. I have 
never had any problem with that either, but since just dropping the .EAR 
in and restarting works too I usually don't bother.


 When you deploy do you delete the old cfusion.ear folder, or is it
 replaced automatically? 

I have no cfusion.ear folder, i have a projectname-buildnr.ear file 
which I remove and a custom startup script that removes everything in 
SERVER-INF/tmp/


 Do you place the new EAR at the same level of the cfusion.ear folder?
 For instance:  C:\JRun4\servers\myinstancename\new_archive_to_deploy.ear

Yes.

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Re: Miss CF days / seriously considering getting back to it

2007-03-23 Thread donli
Thank you, Tom.
Don
 On Thursday 22 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Broadly speaking, am I miss something critical in the CF world for 
 the
  following sketch?
 
 No, that about covers it :-)
 I just wanted to check you picked up on Flex and Apollo too - these 
 make it 
 easy to build very nice web and desktop GUIs, and hook straight into 
 CFCs for 
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Re: Deploying Fusebox application as a J2EE war/ear

2007-03-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tero Pikala wrote:
 
 Does anyone have experience with deploying Fusebox application as a war? 

Not as a WAR but as an EAR, Fusebox 2 on CF MX 6.1.


 Thing that I'm mostly concerned is moving parsed directory outside of
 application root directory since it's now inside war and can't be written
 into (or at least shouldn't be written to if it's possible)

And what is the problem with moving it?

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Re: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tero Pikala wrote:
 
 Do mean that you have EAR folder structure somewhere waiting and you then
 add everything related to your application there and package it to EAR file?

Yes.


 That sounds like a good approach, I just tested creating couple of archives
 and I really wasn't too pleased how for example all custom tags were just
 automatically included. I would definitely prefer to just define Ant target
 that does everything I need. 

After you have created an EAR from the CF Administrator, the build.xml 
that was used is located in /WEB-INF/cfusion/packages/. Use that as your 
template and modify it as you like.

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RE: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, Chris...

I haven't looked into UDF's, but I'm fairly certain that UDF's
are post-CF.45.  In other words, can't be used.

Here's what I'm up against.  I'm using jQuery to $.post
form fields to CF for validation (I prefer to do server-side
right now, since I know how to do much more in CF than in JS).

I've worked out the jQuery to submit the form fields and
validate entries and return error messages to the calling page.

I've been using Taconite to handle placement of the error messages.
This has worked fine.

But the problem I've come up against is, once the entire
form has valid entries, how to post the entire form
and have the result returned via Ajax.

I've tried various methods, but haven't been able to accomplish
it, yet

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Scorpio - What to do until then?

Rick,

What are you missing that has to do with JSON? Will jsonencode() and 
jsondecode() not work for you on 4.5? I know I've taken part in a couple 
of your threads on this similar subject, but I forget. Those two 
functions are UDFs that you can obtain from CFLib.org... oh wait. Does 
4.5 have UDFs?

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Re: Hah? BlogCFC / BlogCFM

2007-03-23 Thread Rob Wilkerson
Couldn't help yourself, could you?  :-)

On 3/23/07, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And I'd use Rick's blog.

 So now what do you do?  ;)

 (just kidding btw :)

 On 3/23/07, Dwayne Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I were to decide to start a blog today, I'd go with Ray's BlogCFC.
  
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  Thanks Rick. This is what I wanted to hear and who better to hear
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RE: Deploying Fusebox application as a J2EE war/ear

2007-03-23 Thread Tero Pikala
 Thing that I'm mostly concerned is moving parsed directory outside of
 application root directory since it's now inside war and can't be written
 into (or at least shouldn't be written to if it's possible)

And what is the problem with moving it?


Let's say that new parsed directory is C:\projects\clientname\parsed\

Now I'll need to create mapping so that cfinclude works properly. 

I'm quite sure I can get it to work eventually; I was hoping to avoid
pitfalls by asking from people who have already done this before. 


Thanks 


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RE: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, Dave...

Any tutorials with examples on the subject that you can point me to?

I'm totally new to Ajax and XML... I think that's what's causing my
problem... just ignorance.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Scorpio - What to do until then?

 And the Ajax bug has finally bitten me, via jQuery, but I'm 
 running into limitations about what I can do server-side with 
 CF 4.5...

There's no reason why you can't use AJAX functionality with CF 4.5. AJAX
function calls simply return text. Newer versions of CF provide amenities,
like CFCs and native XML handling, but you can still generate whatever text
you like in CF 4.5. It will be up to you to make sure that the text contains
valid XML, or JavaScript objects, or whatever your AJAX library expects to
receive.

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RE: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Rick,

But the problem I've come up against is, once the entire
form has valid entries, how to post the entire form
and have the result returned via Ajax.

I've tried various methods, but haven't been able to accomplish
it, yet

Why not just use Taconite to replace your form with a Thank You
message--or whatever you want the user to see when the form has been
accepted. You should be able to replace the contents of the form tag.

-Dan


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RE: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, Peter...

Railo would actually end up costing me more than MM CF Pro.
I would need quite a few additional licenses for each website that
I host and that would quite costly.

While it's not free, Coral Web Builder is reasonably priced at $225,
which I believe would include one developer license for me... that's
all I would need.  However, I don't think it supports, among other
tags and functions, CFSCHEDULE, which I use heavily.  So that's
a killer.  However, it's free to deploy as much as I want on client's
machines without any additional fees.  And I'm beginning to develop
more office/webware.  Looks like it doesn't support LSParseDateTime,
ParseDateTime, ,or LSParseCurrency either...

According to IgniteFusion's compatibility list, they don't support
CFSCHEDULE, either, so that would be out.

Smith Project doesn't support CFSCHEDULE.  Doesn't
support LSParseDateTime, ParseDateTime, or LSParseCurrency,
all of which I use a lot... so it looks like Smith is too lacking...

The alternatives just aren't satisfactory...

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Peter Boughton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Scorpio - What to do until then?

Perhaps there are free versions of a CF Server
(Coral Web Builder, Smith Project, and one more I can't
think of that is free) that can be utilized until Scorpio
becomes available?

Railo is free for community, low-budget business, and developer use, and has
a very cheap professional edition (€200).

I suspect IgniteFusion is the freeware one you're thinking of. I've looked
at that and wasn't too impressed; whilst I haven't done a proper evaluation
of them, I suspect Smith might be better.

Coral Web Builder isn't free, it costs $225, plus $50 for each developer
license.


Unfortunately I haven't really looked at jQuery yet, so can't tell you which
of these might be most suitable.




Hi, all...

Well, what I figured was going to happen is happening.

There seems to be an emphasis in Scorpio in increasing
the number of pre-built components, especially are Ajax
functionality.

And the Ajax bug has finally bitten me, via jQuery, but I'm
running into limitations about what I can do server-side
with CF 4.5...

I'm planning to upgrade Scorpio when it becomes available
proves itself reliable, but I want to use Ajax functionality
now with CF 4.5 sp2

Is WDDX is the only option for accomplishing this with
4.5?

I've been working with jQuery and using Ajax to send
info to .cfm pages for processing, but I'm bumping up
against the need to implement Ajax functionality on
the server back to jQuery.

Am I just out of luck without Json or is it worth the effort
to develop in WDDX (if appropriate for my situation)
until Scorpio is released?

Perhaps there are free versions of a CF Server
(Coral Web Builder, Smith Project, and one more I can't
think of that is free) that can be utilized until Scorpio
becomes available?

Thanks for some perspective on this matter...

Rick



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RE: CF Enterprise

2007-03-23 Thread Brad Wood
OK, that worked!  My instance has now been deployed.

Thanks!

~Brad


Disable the timeout option in the ColdFusion administrator then attempt
to
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RE: WDDX v.s. CF 7 XML functionality

2007-03-23 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:54 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: WDDX v.s. CF 7 XML functionality
 
 While having a few legacy apps myself making use of WDDX, I was
 wondering if
 WDDX still has value that is not currently offered in the XML support
 of CF
 7.02. Seems like opedwddx.org is pretty stale.

It's just as valuable as it ever was.  OpenWDDX.org is definitely getting
long in the tooth however.

I've created an updated WDDX JS parser here:

http://www.depressedpress.com/Content/Development/JavaScript/Extensions/DP_W
DDX/

It's a more concise and modern.  And (at least in my tests) quite a bit
faster on most operations.

Also, in case you're interested I've also designed my own data exchange
layer that tries to improve on the basic ideas of WDDX (passing structured
data) here:

http://www.depressedpress.com/Content/Development/YODEL/Index.cfm

I'm using it very successfully on several projects.

It works very similar to WDDX but (unlike WDDX) can be validated using XML
Schema, supports methods for shrinking file size and some other (I think)
neat stuff.

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Java Pluggin for Eclipse`

2007-03-23 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Chaps,

 

Does anyone have any recommendations on eclipse plug-in's for developing
JAVA code? I don't need anything fancy, just something that'll give me the
basics for writing java and class files.

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Mike Kear
Heheh i cant wait till Rick gets ScorpioWhat a quantum leap he's
going to be making!

Things the rest of us take for granted - cfforms that work,  native
XML tags,  functions, CFCs,

And thats before considering all the goodness wrapped up in teh
Scorpio package - the PDF manipulation, the native image tags, the
reporting,  the server monitoring . .

RICK You wont be able to believe what a jump you're going to make!
CF405 was a good product - I came in to the CF world just before CF4.5
came out, but that was SO long ago.  Think of how far your other
computer apps have come in 10 years.  Or you microwave. Or cameras,
or TVs or cars anything else that has a lot of high technology in it.
   You're going to make a similar jump with coldfusion.

Cheers
Mike Kear
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On 3/24/07, Dan G. Switzer, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rick,

 But the problem I've come up against is, once the entire
 form has valid entries, how to post the entire form
 and have the result returned via Ajax.
 
 I've tried various methods, but haven't been able to accomplish
 it, yet

 Why not just use Taconite to replace your form with a Thank You
 message--or whatever you want the user to see when the form has been
 accepted. You should be able to replace the contents of the form tag.

 -Dan


 

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CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231
Hey all, been years since I have been on this list.  Back into doing more CF
programming with some pretty decent applications in the works.  

What I am interested in at the moment is seeing what people are doing for
their Ajax applications.  i.e. libraries, functions, cfcs, etc.

Thanks...

~Terry


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RE: CF + Ajax

2007-03-23 Thread Andy Matthews
Look into jQuery.com.

Many CF programmers on this list are using it. 

-Original Message-
From: Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF + Ajax

Hey all, been years since I have been on this list.  Back into doing more CF
programming with some pretty decent applications in the works.  

What I am interested in at the moment is seeing what people are doing for
their Ajax applications.  i.e. libraries, functions, cfcs, etc.

Thanks...

~Terry




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Re: Scorpio - What to do until then?

2007-03-23 Thread Christopher Jordan
Rick,

Rick Faircloth wrote:

 But the problem I've come up against is, once the entire
 form has valid entries, how to post the entire form
 and have the result returned via Ajax.

So, by post the form, you just mean that once all has been validated, 
that you need the Form fields (all inputs -- hidden, radio, textarea, 
select, etc.) to be passed to the server via Ajax right?

Have you tried something like this:

script
 function CreateDataObject(){
var obj = new Object;
// all inputs of type text, hidden, select and textarea
$(input:text,input:hidden,select,textarea).each(function(){
obj[this.name] = this.value;
//eval(obj. + this.name +  = ' + this.value + ';);
});
//dump(obj,false);
return obj
 }

 var HasBeenSubmitted = false;
 function SaveApplication(){
 if(!HasBeenSubmitted){
 // first validate the form
 if(ValidateForm(true)){
 HasBeenSubmitted = true;
 var myStruct = CreateDataObject();
 //dump(myStruct);
 var parms = ApplicationData= + $.toJSON(myStruct);
 $.ajax({
 type: POST,
 url: ProcessEmploymentApp.cfm,
 datatype: html,
 data: parms,
 success: function(data){
 location.href=thankyou.cfm;
 },
 error: function(data){
 alert(There was a problem submitting/);
 }
 });
 }
 }
 else{
 alert(can't submit more than once.);
 return;
 }
 }
script

The CreateDataObject (a lousy name for it probably), creates what you 
can think of as a struct which contains name/value pairs which I then 
pass to the handling CFM page via ajax.

Have you tried a method like this? I've mentioned this code to someone 
on the jQuery list once (it may have been you). Daemach and I were 
tag-team helping someone and this was my proposed solution. This is code 
that I'm actually using in a production environment.

Does this help? Let me know if any of it doesn't make sense.

Cheers,
Chris

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RE: Java Pluggin for Eclipse`

2007-03-23 Thread Gaulin, Mark
Java support is native in the SDK version of eclipse. 
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:59 PM
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Subject: Java Pluggin for Eclipse`

Chaps,

 

Does anyone have any recommendations on eclipse plug-in's for developing
JAVA code? I don't need anything fancy, just something that'll give me
the basics for writing java and class files.

 

Thanks,

 

Rob





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