Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Thanks Sean, this is a great insight. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu May 03 02:08:48 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, let's hear the explanation of why and your experiences, I think this > should be in the public domain by whatever means. (blogged, list/off-list) Sure, here's excerpts of a long email exchange I had with someone about choosing between Mach II and Model-Glue (in response to questions about my "switch" - it's just my side of the conversion so it may seem a bit disjointed in places): ... . . I've changed frameworks in the past for one of two reasons: 1. Educational - so I can learn about other frameworks. 2. My current framework is causing me pain. The first reason is fine for individual developers to experiment and learn but is not a good reason to change existing production applications. The second reason is key for commercial / production applications. If you need to make certain changes / enhancements / whatever, and your current framework is making that hard, then you might consider changing frameworks. Bear in mind that changing frameworks is a pretty major decision and is often accompanied by a lot of tedious work just to get back to where you are. And lots - and LOTS - of QA / testing to ensure you didn't break anything. I've changed frameworks for reason two just once. I went from Mach II to Model-Glue, primarily because I wanted a bean factory to help me manage configuration data. If I was in the same position today - with a Mach II application that needed better configuration control, the path I'd take would be different: I'd simply add ColdSpring to my Mach II application and be done with it. Even deciding to just do new application development using a different framework - and continue maintaining old applications in the old framework - is not a step to be taken lightly. One of the great benefits of using the same framework for all applications that a single team maintains is that plugins / filters / whatever can be reused easily across all applications. Another benefit is that developers can move back and forth between maintenance and new code without having to "change gears". ... . . About the only time Mach II's architecture wins in my view is if you have an extremely complex, dynamic state-based model. Those are pretty rare in web applications (otherwise every framework would probably address dynamic flows). Mach II pays quite a performance penalty for that ability - which is a waste of CPU cycles if you don't need it. Another downside of Mach II, compared to Model-Glue, is that Mach II lets you intermingle model calls and view calls which can lead to a messy control file: Model-Glue provides a bit more structure here since you do all your broadcasts first, then all your related views, then if necessary any additional events. Furthermore, Mach II's filter mechanism - whilst very powerful - leads to a control file where it is impossible to tell what the actual application flow might be: Without looking inside the code of each filter, it's pretty much impossible to tell what actually gets executed under what conditions. By contrast, Model-Glue's mechanism explicitly lists the possible event flows and, unless an explicit redirect is declared, you know all the broadcasts and views will be handled before moving to the result event. ... . . Model-Glue provides a set of built in messages that let you perform basic persistence operations without writing any code - just using XML. Look in the local Model-Glue documentation under How To's > How To Use Generic Database Messages. Here's an example from the docs: This will populate the event argument "aListOfContacts" with a query (record set) that is the result of selecting all records from the Contact table (or whatever that is aliased to in Reactor). For a lot of simple persistence operations, you don't need to write DAOs and Gateways because t
Re: CFJS 1.1.1 (a jQuery plugin) is now available
I love you, man. *sniff*:-) Seriously, Chris, it's a very handy plugin - especially the string functions. I ran into that bug with the packed version of the script recently but didn't even thing to try the unpacked version. Thanks for all of your work on this. Jon On May 3, 2007, at 1:15 AM, Christopher Jordan wrote: > Hi folks, > > I know this isn't a jQuery list, but I thought there might be some > interest over on this list, and I know there are some jQuery fans who > frequent CF-Talk. > > I've been working the CFJS plugin again tonight, and I've added eight > new functions and fixed some sloppy JS code that was keeping the > packed > version of the code from working. > > The new version of the code is available from: > http://cfjs.riaforge.org > http://jquery.com/plugins (listed under 'Extensions') > or > http://cjordan.us > > This information and more is in the ChangeLog, but if you're > interested, > here are the new functions: > > * CreateDate() > * CreateDateTime() > * CreateTime() > * CreateODBCDate() > * CreateODBCDateTime() > * CreateODBCTime() > * DatePart() > * IsLeapYear() > > > If there's enough interest in this being a library separate from > jQuery, > I'll consider publishing it as a non-jQuerified version. But, if > there's > not enough interest, I'm not going to bother because it would be more > work to keep the two versions in sync with each other. > > Cheers, > Chris > > -- > http://cjordan.us ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276878 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CFJS 1.1.1 (a jQuery plugin) is now available
Hi folks, I know this isn't a jQuery list, but I thought there might be some interest over on this list, and I know there are some jQuery fans who frequent CF-Talk. I've been working the CFJS plugin again tonight, and I've added eight new functions and fixed some sloppy JS code that was keeping the packed version of the code from working. The new version of the code is available from: http://cfjs.riaforge.org http://jquery.com/plugins (listed under 'Extensions') or http://cjordan.us This information and more is in the ChangeLog, but if you're interested, here are the new functions: * CreateDate() * CreateDateTime() * CreateTime() * CreateODBCDate() * CreateODBCDateTime() * CreateODBCTime() * DatePart() * IsLeapYear() If there's enough interest in this being a library separate from jQuery, I'll consider publishing it as a non-jQuerified version. But, if there's not enough interest, I'm not going to bother because it would be more work to keep the two versions in sync with each other. Cheers, Chris -- http://cjordan.us ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276877 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Banner Management Software
Can anyone recommend banner management software. At this point I am looking for any recommendations, Free or Commercial and in any language. Thanks ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276876 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: head scratcher
If you can get the links from a query, rather than an array, you can build a query object that contains all letters of the alphabet. To do this, use the query-related functions. Something like: (if you want to be fancy, use a CFLOOP to build the query) Then, OUTER JOIN the "alphabet" query with the "links" query. That will give you a complete query object with all letters and matching links, if any. Any records, where the letter doesn't match a link, will return a null for the link, however, the letter will always be returned The query would be something like: SELECT Alphabet.letter, LEFT(Links.link, 1) AS linkLetter, Links.link FROM Alhabet LEFT OUTER JOIN Links ON Alphabet.letter = LEFT(Links.link, 1) ORDER BY Alphabet.letter, Links.link The results would be something like: A Apples.htm B [Sorry, no "B" links] C Capers.htm Cookies.htm (and so on) The theory is good, but I'm not sure if QofQ will handle OUTER JOINs, let alone a join with the LEFT() function. I'm pretty sure it would work in a true database, however. M!ke -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: head scratcher In each iteration of loop, compare the first letter with the first letter in the last iteration of the loop. If they are different, write the anchor. E.g. Loop 20, first letter is c; loop 21, first letter is c, don't write an anchor; loop 22, first letter is d, write the anchor out now. On 5/3/07, Scott Stewart wrote: > Trying to dynamically insert anchors. > I have an alpha list each letter has an href A, etc. > It's supposed to correspond to a list of links below it (which is > generated by looping over an array) If I just insert an anchor above > the name I can give each link an anchor, but. > What I need is one anchor before the A's, one before the B's etc. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276875 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Why is my mouse doin' this??
Dame dayo! On 5/3/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.1-click.jp/ > > Sorry, I couldn't resist! :) -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276874 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Why is my mouse doin' this??
http://www.1-click.jp/ Sorry, I couldn't resist! :) Will ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276873 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: head scratcher
In each iteration of loop, compare the first letter with the first letter in the last iteration of the loop. If they are different, write the anchor. E.g. Loop 20, first letter is c; loop 21, first letter is c, don't write an anchor; loop 22, first letter is d, write the anchor out now. On 5/3/07, Scott Stewart wrote: > Trying to dynamically insert anchors. > I have an alpha list each letter has an href A, etc. > It's supposed to correspond to a list of links below it (which is generated > by looping over an array) > If I just insert an anchor above the name I can give each link an anchor, > but. > What I need is one anchor before the A's, one before the B's etc. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276872 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, let's hear the explanation of why and your experiences, I think this > should be in the public domain by whatever means. (blogged, list/off-list) Sure, here's excerpts of a long email exchange I had with someone about choosing between Mach II and Model-Glue (in response to questions about my "switch" - it's just my side of the conversion so it may seem a bit disjointed in places): .. . . I've changed frameworks in the past for one of two reasons: 1. Educational - so I can learn about other frameworks. 2. My current framework is causing me pain. The first reason is fine for individual developers to experiment and learn but is not a good reason to change existing production applications. The second reason is key for commercial / production applications. If you need to make certain changes / enhancements / whatever, and your current framework is making that hard, then you might consider changing frameworks. Bear in mind that changing frameworks is a pretty major decision and is often accompanied by a lot of tedious work just to get back to where you are. And lots - and LOTS - of QA / testing to ensure you didn't break anything. I've changed frameworks for reason two just once. I went from Mach II to Model-Glue, primarily because I wanted a bean factory to help me manage configuration data. If I was in the same position today - with a Mach II application that needed better configuration control, the path I'd take would be different: I'd simply add ColdSpring to my Mach II application and be done with it. Even deciding to just do new application development using a different framework - and continue maintaining old applications in the old framework - is not a step to be taken lightly. One of the great benefits of using the same framework for all applications that a single team maintains is that plugins / filters / whatever can be reused easily across all applications. Another benefit is that developers can move back and forth between maintenance and new code without having to "change gears". .. . . About the only time Mach II's architecture wins in my view is if you have an extremely complex, dynamic state-based model. Those are pretty rare in web applications (otherwise every framework would probably address dynamic flows). Mach II pays quite a performance penalty for that ability - which is a waste of CPU cycles if you don't need it. Another downside of Mach II, compared to Model-Glue, is that Mach II lets you intermingle model calls and view calls which can lead to a messy control file: Model-Glue provides a bit more structure here since you do all your broadcasts first, then all your related views, then if necessary any additional events. Furthermore, Mach II's filter mechanism - whilst very powerful - leads to a control file where it is impossible to tell what the actual application flow might be: Without looking inside the code of each filter, it's pretty much impossible to tell what actually gets executed under what conditions. By contrast, Model-Glue's mechanism explicitly lists the possible event flows and, unless an explicit redirect is declared, you know all the broadcasts and views will be handled before moving to the result event. .. . . Model-Glue provides a set of built in messages that let you perform basic persistence operations without writing any code - just using XML. Look in the local Model-Glue documentation under How To's > How To Use Generic Database Messages. Here's an example from the docs: This will populate the event argument "aListOfContacts" with a query (record set) that is the result of selecting all records from the Contact table (or whatever that is aliased to in Reactor). For a lot of simple persistence operations, you don't need to write DAOs and Gateways because the GDMs (as they are known) will do the work for you. Very handy for prototyping. .. . . Because the Model-Glue core is managed by ColdSpring, you can easily override and replace any of the core components with your own version - without touching the core files. For example, you want to handle SES URLs? Write your own "state builder" object and tell Model-Glue to use that (by specifying your version in your local ColdSpring.xml file). Want to load database objects from multiple Reactor XML files? Not a problem, download my modified Reactor configuration object and specify that as the "reactorConfiguration" bean in ColdSpring.xml. You can't do that kind of thing with Mach II (at least, not without seriously abusing plugins and the in-memory Mach II data structures). .. . . So, there you go, for everyone to read: my reasons behind switching from Mach II to Model-Glue. This does not cover many of the caveats I added in the original thread about the downsides to *s
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 5/2/07, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would pick Fusebox w/ ColdSpring by default. But if the application > processing required a significant number of dynamic state changes at > the controller level, I'd probably go with Model-Glue w/ ColdSpring. > FB's execution path is static, so it's not a good fit for complex > dynamic flow processing. A dynamically driven framework (Mach-II or > Model-Glue) would be a better fit for that situation. So it depends. Fusebox 6 will support dynamic "do" actions: myFusebox.do(fuseactionName) It will still compile the fuseaction down to a parsed file (so you only take the hit on the first request). This is working in the "dev" branch in SVN :) -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276870 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks)
On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With your background I am suprised you use DW, I would have thought > Eclipse > and SVN would be your bag. Considering they didn't include FLEX in dreamweaver CS3 I'm now starting to ask myselft the same thing. http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/web/features/allfeatures/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276869 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: regex for whitespace at start of string
Trim() ? -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: regex for whitespace at start of string What's the regex I want to remove tabs, line breaks, and spaces from the START of a string? Thanks. ~Brad ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276868 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Preventing cache in IE with cfheader
On 5/2/07, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Instead of messing with HTTP headers, just append a random variable to > the image URL: > > Jochem Yup... Same thing you gotta do with XML content in IE -- Casey ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276867 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
It's not about the degree of control, it's about the dynamic-ness of
control. With FB, you have to use conditional DO actions for dynamic
flow, while in MG or M-II, you just broadcast an event of your choice.
Either can be used to accomplish the same task, but if you have
highly dynamic flow of control (which I'd says is the exception, not
the rule), FB will force you into a lot of nested conditionals in your
XML. Of course, inside your MG controller or M-II listener you need a
conditional to pick which event to dispatch, so it's kind of moot, but
conditionals in code are nicer than conditionals in XML, and with code
you can name your event dynamically (e.g.
dispatchEvent("event#var#")).
cheers,
barneyb
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But this in itself is great as it gives anyone looking to build an app who
> needs to have that degree of control to immediately dismiss Fusebox and in
> turn to select the "correct" framework (for the job).
>
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Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But to add, I can understand personal preference as it's human nature to > like something as an individual, what I don't yet see is where the "it > depends" approach comes in to play. We have had skillset, project and > budget as listings. So if we had say a theoretical team of 7 developers all > skilled in ColdFusion, CFCs and proficient OO developers wanting to build a > scalable enterprise level applications what would I choose? > > Surely this now gives us a focus to narrow it down? > > If a set of rules / problems had a dependency then it would be easily to > find a better solution > > Maybe I am over thinking it, and no doubt I am, but the "it depends" for me > is still unanswered... Or maybe we need a framework to choose a framework? I would think that you could narrow your choices down to Mach-ii or Model-Glue, based on the proficiency with CFCs and OO (you could add ColdBox too, but assume for the sake of simplicity we're keeping it to the "big 3" community supported application frameworks). It's not that Fusebox doesn't do OO... sean has some sample code that shows procedural FB, MVC FB, and OO FB. but I think that "out of the box"... Mach-ii and Model-Glue are more of the MVC/OO by nature. If you really liked FB and wanted to go that route... you could. It's personal preference and it depends :) But let's say you've narrowed it down to Mach-ii or MG. Having never used either my statements here shouldn't be swayed by personal preference :) AFAIK, they all allow you to use an ORM of your choice. They all allow you to use ColdSpring. So there's really no voting one off the island based on those criteria. I've heard that Mach-ii is more stringent in enforcing rules...and that the learning curve is higher. However, that might be a moot point if the proficiencies that you mention are already in place. Another consideration might be community support. Mach-ii faded from the spotlight for a while. I believe that Matt Woodward and Peter Farell (among others?) are currently feverishly working on a new release. But for the time being, you might be able to count on greater support from the community if you went with MG. You might also want to download the core files for both MG and Mach-ii and just write yourself a quick Hello World app. See which one you (and your team) feel most comfortable with. I know... that brings it back to a matter of personal preference... but aside from a few things like documentation, community support... really there isn't much else to consider. -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276865 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
But this in itself is great as it gives anyone looking to build an app who needs to have that degree of control to immediately dismiss Fusebox and in turn to select the "correct" framework (for the job). "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 23:49:20 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) I would pick Fusebox w/ ColdSpring by default. But if the application processing required a significant number of dynamic state changes at the controller level, I'd probably go with Model-Glue w/ ColdSpring. FB's execution path is static, so it's not a good fit for complex dynamic flow processing. A dynamically driven framework (Mach-II or Model-Glue) would be a better fit for that situation. So it depends. :) cheers, barneyb On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But to add, I can understand personal preference as it's human nature to > like something as an individual, what I don't yet see is where the "it > depends" approach comes in to play. We have had skillset, project and > budget as listings. So if we had say a theoretical team of 7 developers all > skilled in ColdFusion, CFCs and proficient OO developers wanting to build a > scalable enterprise level applications what would I choose? > > Surely this now gives us a focus to narrow it down? > > If a set of rules / problems had a dependency then it would be easily to > find a better solution > > Maybe I am over thinking it, and no doubt I am, but the "it depends" for me > is still unanswered... Or maybe we need a framework to choose a framework? > > :-) > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wed May 02 23:21:28 2007 > Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) > > On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over > another > > (other then personal preference) > > Why are you so laser focused on believing that one has to "just be > better" than any other? > > Why *can't* it be personal preference? It's not an "open playing > field" and we don't all know the same stuff. > > I just recently got into fusebox and chose it because i didn't have > any prior experience with frameworks and figured it would likely be > the easiest for me to learn. > > Next I'm leaning towards Coldbox because I've heard that it's got > ridiculous amounts of documentation available which again... would > make it easier for me to learn. > > But I don't for a second believe that one is "just better" than any > other. If that were the case, the others wouldn't exist. > > Yes, a Lexus is "better" than a Yugo. But a Lexus also costs more > than a Yugo. Comparing cars to frameworks in this context doesn't > really work. > > I really think the reason you're having a problem getting the answer > that you're looking for is because you're discounting the only right > answer which is... "it depends" / "personal preference" :) > > -- > Charlie Griefer > >
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
I would pick Fusebox w/ ColdSpring by default. But if the application processing required a significant number of dynamic state changes at the controller level, I'd probably go with Model-Glue w/ ColdSpring. FB's execution path is static, so it's not a good fit for complex dynamic flow processing. A dynamically driven framework (Mach-II or Model-Glue) would be a better fit for that situation. So it depends. :) cheers, barneyb On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But to add, I can understand personal preference as it's human nature to > like something as an individual, what I don't yet see is where the "it > depends" approach comes in to play. We have had skillset, project and > budget as listings. So if we had say a theoretical team of 7 developers all > skilled in ColdFusion, CFCs and proficient OO developers wanting to build a > scalable enterprise level applications what would I choose? > > Surely this now gives us a focus to narrow it down? > > If a set of rules / problems had a dependency then it would be easily to > find a better solution > > Maybe I am over thinking it, and no doubt I am, but the "it depends" for me > is still unanswered... Or maybe we need a framework to choose a framework? > > :-) > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wed May 02 23:21:28 2007 > Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) > > On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over > another > > (other then personal preference) > > Why are you so laser focused on believing that one has to "just be > better" than any other? > > Why *can't* it be personal preference? It's not an "open playing > field" and we don't all know the same stuff. > > I just recently got into fusebox and chose it because i didn't have > any prior experience with frameworks and figured it would likely be > the easiest for me to learn. > > Next I'm leaning towards Coldbox because I've heard that it's got > ridiculous amounts of documentation available which again... would > make it easier for me to learn. > > But I don't for a second believe that one is "just better" than any > other. If that were the case, the others wouldn't exist. > > Yes, a Lexus is "better" than a Yugo. But a Lexus also costs more > than a Yugo. Comparing cars to frameworks in this context doesn't > really work. > > I really think the reason you're having a problem getting the answer > that you're looking for is because you're discounting the only right > answer which is... "it depends" / "personal preference" :) > > -- > Charlie Griefer > > > "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, > and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch > you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. > Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." > > > > ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276863 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
And you are correct, comparing cars to frameworks doesn't really work but if it did and cars were frameworks and I had the following goals To buy a car It has to be yellow It has to go fast And all I have in front of me is a Racing Green Mini Cooper S and an Enzo (in traditional yellow) then my choice is made for me. So, maybe what I and possibly others need to be looking for, or explaned are a map of features v requests pitted against frameworks to help? If after all that we have a two horse race then yes it's down to preferrence. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 23:21:28 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over another > (other then personal preference) Why are you so laser focused on believing that one has to "just be better" than any other? Why *can't* it be personal preference? It's not an "open playing field" and we don't all know the same stuff. I just recently got into fusebox and chose it because i didn't have any prior experience with frameworks and figured it would likely be the easiest for me to learn. Next I'm leaning towards Coldbox because I've heard that it's got ridiculous amounts of documentation available which again... would make it easier for me to learn. But I don't for a second believe that one is "just better" than any other. If that were the case, the others wouldn't exist. Yes, a Lexus is "better" than a Yugo. But a Lexus also costs more than a Yugo. Comparing cars to frameworks in this context doesn't really work. I really think the reason you're having a problem getting the answer that you're looking for is because you're discounting the only right answer which is... "it depends" / "personal preference" :) -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276862 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Imagemagick CFEXECUTE identify
Jeff, are you giving the cfexecute tag some kind of timeout value? If not, it may be spawning it and immediately coming back before imageMagick has run. On 5/2/07, Jeff Wickersty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >use the outputfile attribute of cfexecute, conversely, you could pipe > >the output to a text file and then read in the text file. > > > >On 5/2/07, Jeff Wickersty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > I tried that, using variable="some_name" but that variable apparently isnt > getting created. outputFile isnt doing anything either. It doesnt make sense > b/c i know mogrify and convert work (albeit without any kind of text output, > which is uneccessary in those situations) > > jeff > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276861 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
But to add, I can understand personal preference as it's human nature to like something as an individual, what I don't yet see is where the "it depends" approach comes in to play. We have had skillset, project and budget as listings. So if we had say a theoretical team of 7 developers all skilled in ColdFusion, CFCs and proficient OO developers wanting to build a scalable enterprise level applications what would I choose? Surely this now gives us a focus to narrow it down? If a set of rules / problems had a dependency then it would be easily to find a better solution Maybe I am over thinking it, and no doubt I am, but the "it depends" for me is still unanswered... Or maybe we need a framework to choose a framework? :-) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 23:21:28 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over another > (other then personal preference) Why are you so laser focused on believing that one has to "just be better" than any other? Why *can't* it be personal preference? It's not an "open playing field" and we don't all know the same stuff. I just recently got into fusebox and chose it because i didn't have any prior experience with frameworks and figured it would likely be the easiest for me to learn. Next I'm leaning towards Coldbox because I've heard that it's got ridiculous amounts of documentation available which again... would make it easier for me to learn. But I don't for a second believe that one is "just better" than any other. If that were the case, the others wouldn't exist. Yes, a Lexus is "better" than a Yugo. But a Lexus also costs more than a Yugo. Comparing cars to frameworks in this context doesn't really work. I really think the reason you're having a problem getting the answer that you're looking for is because you're discounting the only right answer which is... "it depends" / "personal preference" :) -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276860 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Imagemagick CFEXECUTE identify
You could try the cfsavecontent method. Doesn't cfexecute by default output straight to the page (unless you use the cf7 variable attribute that you said didn't work)? If the variable method isn't working, is there something else going on, like a scoping issue, variables set in a custom tag or cfc not available where you want them, etc.? -- nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 5/2/07, Jeff Wickersty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >use the outputfile attribute of cfexecute, conversely, you could pipe > >the output to a text file and then read in the text file. > > > >On 5/2/07, Jeff Wickersty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > I tried that, using variable="some_name" but that variable apparently isnt > getting created. outputFile isnt doing anything either. It doesnt make sense > b/c i know mogrify and convert work (albeit without any kind of text output, > which is uneccessary in those situations) > > jeff > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276859 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
If an outcome is indeed personal preference then hoorah, but it would seem that from posts that there are benefits attributed to some over others based on experience and with technical merit. Of course preference pays a part same we develop in ColdFusion over .NET etc. Do you think that it is just down to, well I like blue so I am going to choose it? Do you not think that one framework does some things better? I am not looking for one ring to rule them all, neither do I think there is one, but there must be pointers etc for certain areas of functionality and focus? If not then so be it! :-] "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 23:21:28 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over another > (other then personal preference) Why are you so laser focused on believing that one has to "just be better" than any other? Why *can't* it be personal preference? It's not an "open playing field" and we don't all know the same stuff. I just recently got into fusebox and chose it because i didn't have any prior experience with frameworks and figured it would likely be the easiest for me to learn. Next I'm leaning towards Coldbox because I've heard that it's got ridiculous amounts of documentation available which again... would make it easier for me to learn. But I don't for a second believe that one is "just better" than any other. If that were the case, the others wouldn't exist. Yes, a Lexus is "better" than a Yugo. But a Lexus also costs more than a Yugo. Comparing cars to frameworks in this context doesn't really work. I really think the reason you're having a problem getting the answer that you're looking for is because you're discounting the only right answer which is... "it depends" / "personal preference" :) -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276858 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over another > (other then personal preference) Why are you so laser focused on believing that one has to "just be better" than any other? Why *can't* it be personal preference? It's not an "open playing field" and we don't all know the same stuff. I just recently got into fusebox and chose it because i didn't have any prior experience with frameworks and figured it would likely be the easiest for me to learn. Next I'm leaning towards Coldbox because I've heard that it's got ridiculous amounts of documentation available which again... would make it easier for me to learn. But I don't for a second believe that one is "just better" than any other. If that were the case, the others wouldn't exist. Yes, a Lexus is "better" than a Yugo. But a Lexus also costs more than a Yugo. Comparing cars to frameworks in this context doesn't really work. I really think the reason you're having a problem getting the answer that you're looking for is because you're discounting the only right answer which is... "it depends" / "personal preference" :) -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276857 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Developer skillset, personal preference, and the app(s) in question are the only important criteria. If those were irrelevant, there would be only one framework in any given arena, because there wouldn't be anything to differentiate. Competing frameworks arise (like anything else) because the existing offerings didn't meet a given entity's need. Honestly, I can't think of anything else that would differentiate a framework in a meaninful way, except perhaps LOC for different tasks, but even that is dependent on the app you're trying to develop, because there will be different tasks to perform depending on the app. cheers, barneyb On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over another > (other then personal preference) > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276856 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
can i just throw this blog post from Brian Rinaldi post in teh mixer:P http://www.remotesynthesis.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/2/13/Overthinking-Your-Framework-is-a-Stalling-Tactic;) On 02/05/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then > it would be easy to choose a framework. > > Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset > for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same > stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. > > What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over > another > (other then personal preference) > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of > the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please > note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or > call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within > this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wed May 02 23:01:16 2007 > Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) > > Hi all, > > First of all I used FB, MG and MII for different projects. I say always > "it depens" for FM selection. It depends on your team, project goal, > budget etc. etc. > > But I really wonder what would be your reason if you are using MachII > rather than MG? > > Imagine that your boss asked to you "Ok guys you want to use "more" OO > solution and selected MachII. But why do you prefer to use MachII > instead of ModelGlue?", what would be your answers? > > I have already some answers but I also want to hear from you. > > Thanks in advance! > > > OÄYuz Demirkapý > > TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer > 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA > Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 > Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi teratech.com > Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. > > ~~~ > > > > > > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276855 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Re-reading. Budget, well all frameworks are free last check so it comes down to time V money I presume? Team, well we are all the same skill set. Project, I want to build a large enterprise app which will perform under load, be scalable. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 23:01:16 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) Hi all, First of all I used FB, MG and MII for different projects. I say always "it depens" for FM selection. It depends on your team, project goal, budget etc. etc. But I really wonder what would be your reason if you are using MachII rather than MG? Imagine that your boss asked to you "Ok guys you want to use "more" OO solution and selected MachII. But why do you prefer to use MachII instead of ModelGlue?", what would be your answers? I have already some answers but I also want to hear from you. Thanks in advance! OÃYuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~~~ ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276854 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Preventing cache in IE with cfheader
Christophe Maso wrote: > I'm having trouble getting IE not to cache image files on a particular page. > I have a page where image files can be uploaded and overwrite existing files > (similar to a Myspace type page that displays your picture; you can upload > another gif or jpg via form field, submit, and then page refreshes). The > file uploads, but the browser is still caching; the refreshed page still > shows the old image file. Instead of messing with HTTP headers, just append a random variable to the image URL: Jochem ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276853 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Again, I get confused on why it would "depend". If this was the case then it would be easy to choose a framework. Is it that if you want OO dev you choose Mach-II etc. Disregard skillset for this, imagine it was an open playing field and we all knew the same stuff and we all wanted to build the same app. What makes one framework more suitable for a particular project over another (other then personal preference) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 23:01:16 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) Hi all, First of all I used FB, MG and MII for different projects. I say always "it depens" for FM selection. It depends on your team, project goal, budget etc. etc. But I really wonder what would be your reason if you are using MachII rather than MG? Imagine that your boss asked to you "Ok guys you want to use "more" OO solution and selected MachII. But why do you prefer to use MachII instead of ModelGlue?", what would be your answers? I have already some answers but I also want to hear from you. Thanks in advance! OÃYuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~~~ ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276852 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Lol, believe me I do, I think the info would be invaluable. Short of stop playing my Xbox, flying to the US, providing beers I mean it 130% "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:57:05 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since Barney requires I ask and I respect his opinion (even though I think > Sean would realise being a fellow Celt that the email was an invitation).. > > Sean, can you please divulge your findings on this? I didn't get the feeling that you really meant it. Ask again, but this time, mean it. :) -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Hi all, First of all I used FB, MG and MII for different projects. I say always "it depens" for FM selection. It depends on your team, project goal, budget etc. etc. But I really wonder what would be your reason if you are using MachII rather than MG? Imagine that your boss asked to you "Ok guys you want to use "more" OO solution and selected MachII. But why do you prefer to use MachII instead of ModelGlue?", what would be your answers? I have already some answers but I also want to hear from you. Thanks in advance! OÄuz Demirkapı TeraTech Inc. | Senior Developer 405 East Gude Dr Suite 207, Rockville, MD 20850, USA Voice: +1 (301) 424-3903 ext 111 | Fax: +1 (301) 762-8185 Web: http://www.teratech.com | E-mail: oguz.demirkapi teratech.com Winner in CFDJ awards Best Consulting. Member Team Fusebox. ~~~ ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276850 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since Barney requires I ask and I respect his opinion (even though I think > Sean would realise being a fellow Celt that the email was an invitation).. > > Sean, can you please divulge your findings on this? I didn't get the feeling that you really meant it. Ask again, but this time, mean it. :) -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276849 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks)
And atop they can also enforce design patterns which is no bad thing. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Nick Tong To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:34:44 2007 Subject: Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks) Hi Jeff, A very quick answer is that if i came and worked for your company would i know on the first day which snippets did what? Would I conform to your standards? Frameworks allow people to pick up code and run with it quickly and conform to rules set out with in the framework. HTH On 02/05/07, Jeff Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We've (our development team) been using Dreamweaver, and we use it > internally for checking in/out documents. We write CFCs and utilize > Dreamweaver's "Components" tab. We use store all of our "most used code" in > snippets that we all share, and we're all trained Computer Science graduates > (not designers or graphic artists who "picked up" web "programming")... > > Why would we use a framework? What would be the benefit? > > I only ask because all of these framework discussions always leave me with > the feeling of, "hmmm... that sounds really 'neat' but with our workflow it > seems really redundant..." or perhaps better said, "that seems like a lot of > overhead to achieve what we already achieve pretty effortlessly"... > > Is there something I'm missing from a framework that I don't get from > simply utilizing all the tools available in Dreamweaver? Even Ajax, which > gave me pause a few months ago, thinking, "hmmm, now I *might* need a > framework to implement some of these whiz-bang Ajax doo-hickeys" now seems a > thing of the past with Spry shipping with Dreamweaver CS3. > > Am I missing something? We don't re-write code. We re-use everything. It's > all available in our snippet library, and our CFCs are constantly being > reused. Is there something more that we could be doing with a framework that > we're not able to do without it? > > I just thought it seemed like an "appropriate" question because of the > framework threads that have been popping up all over the place lately... got > me thinking and all... > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276848 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Since Barney requires I ask and I respect his opinion (even though I think Sean would realise being a fellow Celt that the email was an invitation).. Sean, can you please divulge your findings on this? "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:44:06 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) But I'm not smart enough? Even so, that doesn't mean a simple courtesy is unwarranted. On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lol, Sean is smart enough to realise the tone of the mail it wasn't an order > :-) it was an open invite to propogate information.. > .. > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Barney Boisvert > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wed May 02 22:23:33 2007 > Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) > > Jeez. I'm not even the one having it requested of me, and I'm > wondering where the "please" is. > > On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, let's hear the explanation of why and your experiences, I think this > > should be in the public domain by whatever means. (blogged, list/off-list) > > as the "why's" can only ever be used in comparison to other framworks (in > > this case Model-Glue) and from someone who has had a vested interest in > them > > all at some stage. I don't think it will turn into a "my framework is > > better than yours" etc but it will help others see what, where and how a > > framework has been chosen over another. > > > > > > -- > Barney Boisvert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276847 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
But I'm not smart enough? Even so, that doesn't mean a simple courtesy is unwarranted. On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lol, Sean is smart enough to realise the tone of the mail it wasn't an order > :-) it was an open invite to propogate information.. > .. > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Barney Boisvert > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wed May 02 22:23:33 2007 > Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) > > Jeez. I'm not even the one having it requested of me, and I'm > wondering where the "please" is. > > On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, let's hear the explanation of why and your experiences, I think this > > should be in the public domain by whatever means. (blogged, list/off-list) > > as the "why's" can only ever be used in comparison to other framworks (in > > this case Model-Glue) and from someone who has had a vested interest in > them > > all at some stage. I don't think it will turn into a "my framework is > > better than yours" etc but it will help others see what, where and how a > > framework has been chosen over another. > > > > > > -- > Barney Boisvert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276846 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks)
Most of the benefits from a framework (at least in my view) come from the bookkeeping that the framework takes care of automatically. For example, ColdSpring manages dependency injection, so I don't have to write any code to do that. ColdSpring also provides AOP functionality which provides a very nice way to wrap functionality around other existing functionality, and again, takes care of all the mundane accounting that is required to make that work. Similar examples exist for other frameworks. All the Front Controller frameworks provide configuration languages for the app (which you don't have to write), automated caching of execution plans (so you don't have to write them), a framework for managing intra-request state (so you don't have to write one), etc. Frameworks also provide consistency between applications. If I've worked on a FB5 app anywhere, chances are good I'll be able to switch to a different FB5 app (quite possibly at a different company in a different industry) and already understand that app to a very high degree. That's very valuable if you have a growing or rotating staff. In short, there's nothing you NEED a framework for, but there are a lot of smart developers out there, and I generally prefer to trust code that someone else wrote (and tested, exercised, and then released to a large community) over code that I wrote (with no other vetting). Especially for the mundane (but VERY important) glue bits. And this perspective has nothing to do with CF, it's global to programming, which is why there is such a huge affection for Spring, Struts, Hibernate, Tapestry, etc., etc. beyond CF's borders. It's worth mentioning also that your current framework/methodology seems effortless to you largely because you're very familiar with it, and understand all it's ins and outs. A new framework will automatically seem a lot more cumbersome initially, because you lack that familiarity with it. cheers, barneyb On 5/2/07, Jeff Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've (our development team) been using Dreamweaver, and we use it internally > for checking in/out documents. We write CFCs and utilize Dreamweaver's > "Components" tab. We use store all of our "most used code" in snippets that > we all share, and we're all trained Computer Science graduates (not designers > or graphic artists who "picked up" web "programming")... > > Why would we use a framework? What would be the benefit? > > I only ask because all of these framework discussions always leave me with > the feeling of, "hmmm... that sounds really 'neat' but with our workflow it > seems really redundant..." or perhaps better said, "that seems like a lot of > overhead to achieve what we already achieve pretty effortlessly"... > > Is there something I'm missing from a framework that I don't get from simply > utilizing all the tools available in Dreamweaver? Even Ajax, which gave me > pause a few months ago, thinking, "hmmm, now I *might* need a framework to > implement some of these whiz-bang Ajax doo-hickeys" now seems a thing of the > past with Spry shipping with Dreamweaver CS3. > > Am I missing something? We don't re-write code. We re-use everything. It's > all available in our snippet library, and our CFCs are constantly being > reused. Is there something more that we could be doing with a framework that > we're not able to do without it? > > I just thought it seemed like an "appropriate" question because of the > framework threads that have been popping up all over the place lately... got > me thinking and all... > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks)
Hi Jeff, A very quick answer is that if i came and worked for your company would i know on the first day which snippets did what? Would I conform to your standards? Frameworks allow people to pick up code and run with it quickly and conform to rules set out with in the framework. HTH On 02/05/07, Jeff Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We've (our development team) been using Dreamweaver, and we use it > internally for checking in/out documents. We write CFCs and utilize > Dreamweaver's "Components" tab. We use store all of our "most used code" in > snippets that we all share, and we're all trained Computer Science graduates > (not designers or graphic artists who "picked up" web "programming")... > > Why would we use a framework? What would be the benefit? > > I only ask because all of these framework discussions always leave me with > the feeling of, "hmmm... that sounds really 'neat' but with our workflow it > seems really redundant..." or perhaps better said, "that seems like a lot of > overhead to achieve what we already achieve pretty effortlessly"... > > Is there something I'm missing from a framework that I don't get from > simply utilizing all the tools available in Dreamweaver? Even Ajax, which > gave me pause a few months ago, thinking, "hmmm, now I *might* need a > framework to implement some of these whiz-bang Ajax doo-hickeys" now seems a > thing of the past with Spry shipping with Dreamweaver CS3. > > Am I missing something? We don't re-write code. We re-use everything. It's > all available in our snippet library, and our CFCs are constantly being > reused. Is there something more that we could be doing with a framework that > we're not able to do without it? > > I just thought it seemed like an "appropriate" question because of the > framework threads that have been popping up all over the place lately... got > me thinking and all... > > > ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276844 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks)
And surely, like most if not all CS grads you would have learned a design pattern in whatever OO language you were taught? A framework probably was shown as well, and it's benefits? "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jeff Small To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:26:01 2007 Subject: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks) We've (our development team) been using Dreamweaver, and we use it internally for checking in/out documents. We write CFCs and utilize Dreamweaver's "Components" tab. We use store all of our "most used code" in snippets that we all share, and we're all trained Computer Science graduates (not designers or graphic artists who "picked up" web "programming")... Why would we use a framework? What would be the benefit? I only ask because all of these framework discussions always leave me with the feeling of, "hmmm... that sounds really 'neat' but with our workflow it seems really redundant..." or perhaps better said, "that seems like a lot of overhead to achieve what we already achieve pretty effortlessly"... Is there something I'm missing from a framework that I don't get from simply utilizing all the tools available in Dreamweaver? Even Ajax, which gave me pause a few months ago, thinking, "hmmm, now I *might* need a framework to implement some of these whiz-bang Ajax doo-hickeys" now seems a thing of the past with Spry shipping with Dreamweaver CS3. Am I missing something? We don't re-write code. We re-use everything. It's all available in our snippet library, and our CFCs are constantly being reused. Is there something more that we could be doing with a framework that we're not able to do without it? I just thought it seemed like an "appropriate" question because of the framework threads that have been popping up all over the place lately... got me thinking and all... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276843 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks)
With your background I am suprised you use DW, I would have thought Eclipse and SVN would be your bag. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jeff Small To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:26:01 2007 Subject: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks) We've (our development team) been using Dreamweaver, and we use it internally for checking in/out documents. We write CFCs and utilize Dreamweaver's "Components" tab. We use store all of our "most used code" in snippets that we all share, and we're all trained Computer Science graduates (not designers or graphic artists who "picked up" web "programming")... Why would we use a framework? What would be the benefit? I only ask because all of these framework discussions always leave me with the feeling of, "hmmm... that sounds really 'neat' but with our workflow it seems really redundant..." or perhaps better said, "that seems like a lot of overhead to achieve what we already achieve pretty effortlessly"... Is there something I'm missing from a framework that I don't get from simply utilizing all the tools available in Dreamweaver? Even Ajax, which gave me pause a few months ago, thinking, "hmmm, now I *might* need a framework to implement some of these whiz-bang Ajax doo-hickeys" now seems a thing of the past with Spry shipping with Dreamweaver CS3. Am I missing something? We don't re-write code. We re-use everything. It's all available in our snippet library, and our CFCs are constantly being reused. Is there something more that we could be doing with a framework that we're not able to do without it? I just thought it seemed like an "appropriate" question because of the framework threads that have been popping up all over the place lately... got me thinking and all... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276842 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums
But to be fair, looks like you hijacked the wrong thread! "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Nick Tong To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:26:54 2007 Subject: Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums Can i just highjack this thread, sorry Neil and say that there is also a forum on http://cfFrameworks.com for your framework thoughts - please pop in and say hi :) The link is http://cfframeworks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.forum On 02/05/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Eric. :) > > Eric J. Hoffman wrote: > > Its /forum/ : ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric J. Hoffman > > Managing Partner > > 2081 Industrial Blvd > > StillwaterMN55082 > > mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www: http://www.ejhassociates.com > > tel: 651.717.4105 > > fax: 651.717.4101 > > mob: 651.245.2717 > > Adobe Solutions Partner > > Microsoft Certified Partner > > > > > > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are not cf-talk@houseoffusion.com you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately by e-mail if you have received this > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail > transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information > could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, > or contain viruses. Eric J. Hoffman therefore does not accept liability for > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a > result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a > hard-copy version. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:00 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums > > > > The link doesn't work Neil. > > > > Rey... > > > > Neil Middleton wrote: > >> I know there's people on here that hate forums, but I also know people > > who > >> prefer the forum format. > >> > >> Hence the reason that I've decided to expand the Feed Squirrel > > "empire" with > >> some shiny new forums. If you are feeling like it, feel free to take > > a look > >> around, get an account and start chatting. I know there's not much > > there at > >> the moment, but ask you can probably guess, forums are very much > > chicken and > >> egg. Hopefully the forum will snowball into something genuinely > > useful - > >> possibly bridging the void between the lower and higher experience CF > >> developers out there. > >> > >> http://www.feed-squirrel.com/forums > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276841 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums
Not at all Nick :-) I think it's healithy we have already had a discussion in a London bar about this very subject! "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Nick Tong To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:26:54 2007 Subject: Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums Can i just highjack this thread, sorry Neil and say that there is also a forum on http://cfFrameworks.com for your framework thoughts - please pop in and say hi :) The link is http://cfframeworks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.forum On 02/05/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Eric. :) > > Eric J. Hoffman wrote: > > Its /forum/ : ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric J. Hoffman > > Managing Partner > > 2081 Industrial Blvd > > StillwaterMN55082 > > mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www: http://www.ejhassociates.com > > tel: 651.717.4105 > > fax: 651.717.4101 > > mob: 651.245.2717 > > Adobe Solutions Partner > > Microsoft Certified Partner > > > > > > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are not cf-talk@houseoffusion.com you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately by e-mail if you have received this > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail > transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information > could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, > or contain viruses. Eric J. Hoffman therefore does not accept liability for > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a > result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a > hard-copy version. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:00 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums > > > > The link doesn't work Neil. > > > > Rey... > > > > Neil Middleton wrote: > >> I know there's people on here that hate forums, but I also know people > > who > >> prefer the forum format. > >> > >> Hence the reason that I've decided to expand the Feed Squirrel > > "empire" with > >> some shiny new forums. If you are feeling like it, feel free to take > > a look > >> around, get an account and start chatting. I know there's not much > > there at > >> the moment, but ask you can probably guess, forums are very much > > chicken and > >> egg. Hopefully the forum will snowball into something genuinely > > useful - > >> possibly bridging the void between the lower and higher experience CF > >> developers out there. > >> > >> http://www.feed-squirrel.com/forums > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276840 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Lol, Sean is smart enough to realise the tone of the mail it wasn't an order :-) it was an open invite to propogate information.. .. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:23:33 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) Jeez. I'm not even the one having it requested of me, and I'm wondering where the "please" is. On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, let's hear the explanation of why and your experiences, I think this > should be in the public domain by whatever means. (blogged, list/off-list) > as the "why's" can only ever be used in comparison to other framworks (in > this case Model-Glue) and from someone who has had a vested interest in them > all at some stage. I don't think it will turn into a "my framework is > better than yours" etc but it will help others see what, where and how a > framework has been chosen over another. > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276839 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums
Can i just highjack this thread, sorry Neil and say that there is also a forum on http://cfFrameworks.com for your framework thoughts - please pop in and say hi :) The link is http://cfframeworks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.forum On 02/05/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Eric. :) > > Eric J. Hoffman wrote: > > Its /forum/ : ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric J. Hoffman > > Managing Partner > > 2081 Industrial Blvd > > StillwaterMN55082 > > mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www: http://www.ejhassociates.com > > tel: 651.717.4105 > > fax: 651.717.4101 > > mob: 651.245.2717 > > Adobe Solutions Partner > > Microsoft Certified Partner > > > > > > > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are not cf-talk@houseoffusion.com you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately by e-mail if you have received this > e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail > transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information > could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, > or contain viruses. Eric J. Hoffman therefore does not accept liability for > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a > result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a > hard-copy version. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:00 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Ann: Feed-Squirrel Forums > > > > The link doesn't work Neil. > > > > Rey... > > > > Neil Middleton wrote: > >> I know there's people on here that hate forums, but I also know people > > who > >> prefer the forum format. > >> > >> Hence the reason that I've decided to expand the Feed Squirrel > > "empire" with > >> some shiny new forums. If you are feeling like it, feel free to take > > a look > >> around, get an account and start chatting. I know there's not much > > there at > >> the moment, but ask you can probably guess, forums are very much > > chicken and > >> egg. Hopefully the forum will snowball into something genuinely > > useful - > >> possibly bridging the void between the lower and higher experience CF > >> developers out there. > >> > >> http://www.feed-squirrel.com/forums > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276838 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks)
We've (our development team) been using Dreamweaver, and we use it internally for checking in/out documents. We write CFCs and utilize Dreamweaver's "Components" tab. We use store all of our "most used code" in snippets that we all share, and we're all trained Computer Science graduates (not designers or graphic artists who "picked up" web "programming")... Why would we use a framework? What would be the benefit? I only ask because all of these framework discussions always leave me with the feeling of, "hmmm... that sounds really 'neat' but with our workflow it seems really redundant..." or perhaps better said, "that seems like a lot of overhead to achieve what we already achieve pretty effortlessly"... Is there something I'm missing from a framework that I don't get from simply utilizing all the tools available in Dreamweaver? Even Ajax, which gave me pause a few months ago, thinking, "hmmm, now I *might* need a framework to implement some of these whiz-bang Ajax doo-hickeys" now seems a thing of the past with Spry shipping with Dreamweaver CS3. Am I missing something? We don't re-write code. We re-use everything. It's all available in our snippet library, and our CFCs are constantly being reused. Is there something more that we could be doing with a framework that we're not able to do without it? I just thought it seemed like an "appropriate" question because of the framework threads that have been popping up all over the place lately... got me thinking and all... ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276837 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Jeez. I'm not even the one having it requested of me, and I'm wondering where the "please" is. On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, let's hear the explanation of why and your experiences, I think this > should be in the public domain by whatever means. (blogged, list/off-list) > as the "why's" can only ever be used in comparison to other framworks (in > this case Model-Glue) and from someone who has had a vested interest in them > all at some stage. I don't think it will turn into a "my framework is > better than yours" etc but it will help others see what, where and how a > framework has been chosen over another. > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276836 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Coolio. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:09:14 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So can and will ColdSpring, Transfer and Mach-II play nice? Mach II has a ColdSpring plugin. You can use either of Reactor or Transfer (or objectBreeze or whatever) with Mach II / ColdSpring. I'd say they already play nice. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276835 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
Ok, let's hear the explanation of why and your experiences, I think this should be in the public domain by whatever means. (blogged, list/off-list) as the "why's" can only ever be used in comparison to other framworks (in this case Model-Glue) and from someone who has had a vested interest in them all at some stage. I don't think it will turn into a "my framework is better than yours" etc but it will help others see what, where and how a framework has been chosen over another. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 22:08:18 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So preference aside, this effectively tells me, from you as a top notch OO > developer, is that Model-Glue is better than Mach-II... I don't think you should draw that conclusion. I could give a long explanation of why I prefer Model-Glue but none of it has to do with OO and none of it means that other people might not prefer Mach II. It really is mostly a preference thing. > You would never consider using Mach-II again? If I was offered consulting work and it was using Mach II, I'd use it. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276834 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Blending JS with CFForm for password verification fields
> Man, they really should make it easier to add your own JS to CFFORMS. > That's a rough thing to dig into. Yeah. I just had to have it one time so I hacked my way through it. I guess maybe they figure if you're using cfform/cfinput, you're not going to be writing your own JS anyway -- it's either one or the other. -- Josh ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276833 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Preventing cache in IE with cfheader
> I'm having trouble getting IE not to cache image files on a particular > page. > I have a page where image files can be uploaded and overwrite existing > files (similar to a Myspace type page that displays your picture; you > can upload another gif or jpg via form field, submit, and then page > refreshes). The file uploads, but the browser is still caching; the > refreshed page still shows the old image file. > > In order to prevent browser caching of image files, I've used > > , and also > added > > > > > for good measure. Firefox seems to respond to this, but not IE(7). > Am I doing something wrong, or is IE just a less than optimal browser? Further puzzling - the info on following post didn't seem to help... http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50692 ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276832 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So can and will ColdSpring, Transfer and Mach-II play nice? Mach II has a ColdSpring plugin. You can use either of Reactor or Transfer (or objectBreeze or whatever) with Mach II / ColdSpring. I'd say they already play nice. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276831 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So preference aside, this effectively tells me, from you as a top notch OO > developer, is that Model-Glue is better than Mach-II... I don't think you should draw that conclusion. I could give a long explanation of why I prefer Model-Glue but none of it has to do with OO and none of it means that other people might not prefer Mach II. It really is mostly a preference thing. > You would never consider using Mach-II again? If I was offered consulting work and it was using Mach II, I'd use it. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276830 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Blending JS with CFForm for password verification fields
Thanks so much Josh, that was awesome.
Man, they really should make it easier to add your own JS to CFFORMS. That's a
rough thing to dig into.
Yeah, it's a bit of a PITA but here's the scoop:
CFFORM creates a function called _CF_check(yourformname), so if your form
name is "myform" the function is called _CF_checkmyform.
Your additional validation js will need to look something like this:
function addtl_validate() {
// do your validation check here
doCFvalidate = _CF_checkmyform(document.myform); // this runs the CFForm
validation
if(doCFvalidate) { // passed the CFForm validation, so submit
document.myform.submit();
}
else { // failed cfform validation
return false;
}
}
-- Josh
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Re: This is wierd
OK, I am stupid. I had the two queries in the same function on the CFC. The second query returns a value after the date is inserted, so of course I get a return record count. I separated the two queries into two separate functions, wrapped the cfinvokes into a CFIF and it worked like a charm. Bruce On 5/2/07, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>It did and I renamed it and still the same problem. > > A sample of your code would help. > > -- > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: and server 2003 R2 SBS
That did it! That was teh one combination of things I hadn't tried. Now To get my filters all setup. Thanks! ~Steve - Original Message From: "Dawson, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 2:40:16 PM Subject: RE: and server 2003 R2 SBS Did you try starting from the root of your directory? start="dc=jhfbm,dc=local" -Original Message- From: Stephen Good [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: and server 2003 R2 SBS Hey Gang, I am running a server Windows 2003 R2 Small Business Server with CFMX7. I have been able to authenticate with cfntauthenticate for site logins, and I can query the Users cn in AD using cfldap. However all my users are not stored under the Users cn, they are stored in MyBusiness > Users > SBSUsers, which means when i run the query, it doesn't return the correct set of users. My question is this. How do I query the SBSUsers cn? Here's what I use to query the normal Users cn. Thanks for any help, and let me know if yall need more info from me. ~Steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276806 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
So can and will ColdSpring, Transfer and Mach-II play nice? "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 21:57:01 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 4/30/07, Dwayne Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More specifically, what types of application parameters should be set up at application initiation. That's a very open-ended question with no black and white answer. I put pretty much any per-application config in application scope in one way or another, usually via ColdSpring. > In some frameworks, information is pulled from an XML configuration file. Fusebox has these abstract circuits that I think are stored in the application scope. I am not sure what Mach-II stores in the application scope upon application initiation. Most of the frameworks cache their setup data in application scope. > The question is not how to use application.cfm but what makes up a solid application scope variable enviornment? The question doesn't make sense to me - this is a decision that only you can make. It's not a framework-related question at all in my opinion. > What's in the application scope variable enviornment of Mach-II, Fusebox etc. Lots of cached data structures that let the framework run efficiently. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276827 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
So preference aside, this effectively tells me, from you as a top notch OO developer, is that Model-Glue is better than Mach-II... You would never consider using Mach-II again? "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 21:47:54 2007 Subject: Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any) On 4/30/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No specific named methodology. Frameworks? Model-Glue, Fusebox, > > ColdSpring, Transfer. > Interesting. Not Mach-II anymore? No. I blogged quite a while back about my "switch" from Mach II to Model-Glue. That was when I was working on the ERP project and wanted better control of my configuration data. Model-Glue came with a bean factory (ChiliBeans) and that was the deciding factor at first. Once I'd switched to leverage that, I decided I liked Model-Glue better overall. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276826 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 4/30/07, Dwayne Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More specifically, what types of application parameters should be set up at > application initiation. That's a very open-ended question with no black and white answer. I put pretty much any per-application config in application scope in one way or another, usually via ColdSpring. > In some frameworks, information is pulled from an XML configuration file. > Fusebox has these abstract circuits that I think are stored in the > application scope. I am not sure what Mach-II stores in the application > scope upon application initiation. Most of the frameworks cache their setup data in application scope. > The question is not how to use application.cfm but what makes up a solid > application scope variable enviornment? The question doesn't make sense to me - this is a decision that only you can make. It's not a framework-related question at all in my opinion. > What's in the application scope variable enviornment of Mach-II, Fusebox etc. Lots of cached data structures that let the framework run efficiently. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276825 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Blending JS with CFForm for password verification fields
Yeah, it's a bit of a PITA but here's the scoop:
CFFORM creates a function called _CF_check(yourformname), so if your form
name is "myform" the function is called _CF_checkmyform.
Your additional validation js will need to look something like this:
function addtl_validate() {
// do your validation check here
doCFvalidate = _CF_checkmyform(document.myform); // this runs the CFForm
validation
if(doCFvalidate) { // passed the CFForm validation, so submit
document.myform.submit();
}
else { // failed cfform validation
return false;
}
}
-- Josh
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RE: Check database connections
Yes, sp_who or select * from sysprocesses would work, but he stated that he didn't have access to the database server. That is a good question. I bet there is something in service factory which will tell you. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Tom G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Check database connections >Well.. for SQL server... > >Do you have access to the database server? You can use a perfmon to see >current connections. > >Also, for SQL 2000 you can use Enterprise Manager (Management - Current >Activity) and for SQL 2005 you can use SQL studio. > >Jacob > >-Original Message- >From: Tom G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:56 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Check database connections > >Anyone know how to see how many database connections are currently open to a >particular database? Without having to ask a DBA to check? The app runs on >MX7. It connects to both an Oracle database and a SQL Server database. No, we don't have access to the database server (for SQL Server). I was trying to find a way to check the number of connections through CF somehow. Haven't had much luck with that search. How about checking connections to an Oracle database? This SQL Server database is going to migrate to Oracle sometime in the near future. Plus, we have our own Oracle database (the SQL Server database is owned by an outside vendor and we just read from it). So if I can figure out how to check connections to an Oracle database I'll feel like I've made some progress. Thanks. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276824 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: This is wierd
>>It did and I renamed it and still the same problem. A sample of your code would help. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276823 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Check database connections
>Well.. for SQL server... > >Do you have access to the database server? You can use a perfmon to see >current connections. > >Also, for SQL 2000 you can use Enterprise Manager (Management - Current >Activity) and for SQL 2005 you can use SQL studio. > >Jacob > >-Original Message- >From: Tom G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:56 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Check database connections > >Anyone know how to see how many database connections are currently open to a >particular database? Without having to ask a DBA to check? The app runs on >MX7. It connects to both an Oracle database and a SQL Server database. No, we don't have access to the database server (for SQL Server). I was trying to find a way to check the number of connections through CF somehow. Haven't had much luck with that search. How about checking connections to an Oracle database? This SQL Server database is going to migrate to Oracle sometime in the near future. Plus, we have our own Oracle database (the SQL Server database is owned by an outside vendor and we just read from it). So if I can figure out how to check connections to an Oracle database I'll feel like I've made some progress. Thanks. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276822 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 4/30/07, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Relating to Frameworks, is there a certain one that scales better > between 2 or more servers, or do they all scale the same as long as you > setup client vars to be in a DB and shared? Does any framework > specifically store internal variables in such a way as to preclude the > use of multiple servers with a shared client scope? Mostly the frameworks are all designed to manages requests and data on a single server. I never use client variables (and I've only ever worked on clustered CFMX Enterprise systems). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276821 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: regex for whitespace at start of string
Ooops...I think I should have used \s. Check this page for more meta groupings: http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/w whelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentation&file=1384.htm -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: regex for whitespace at start of string Thanks. I was trying something with \s. Is there a reason you use \W (non-alphanumeric)? ~Brad -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: regex for whitespace at start of string ^\W -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: regex for whitespace at start of string What's the regex I want to remove tabs, line breaks, and spaces from the START of a string? ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276820 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 4/30/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No specific named methodology. Frameworks? Model-Glue, Fusebox, > > ColdSpring, Transfer. > Interesting. Not Mach-II anymore? No. I blogged quite a while back about my "switch" from Mach II to Model-Glue. That was when I was working on the ERP project and wanted better control of my configuration data. Model-Glue came with a bean factory (ChiliBeans) and that was the deciding factor at first. Once I'd switched to leverage that, I decided I liked Model-Glue better overall. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276819 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFC Lib?
Yeah it wasn't a dig at it, I can understand why people didn't submit content. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 21:32:58 2007 Subject: Re: CFC Lib? CFCZone is the current place, and yes, it doesn't have a lot of content. This wasn't for lack of trying - folks just didn't submit much content. Thats part of the reason to roll it into CFLib, so we have a one stop place. As for the Exchange... well. I _used_ to like it back in the old days, when it was fast. ;) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cfczone.org I think it is, but doesn't have much content. May as well look > at the developer zone (devnet) > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276818 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Which Framework do you use... (if any)
On 4/28/07, Dwayne Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1). What framework best manages variable scoping (what should go into the > application scope, what should go into request scope etc) Most of the frameworks place no restrictions on this sort of thing - that decision is down to the developer. Frameworks sometimes provides different ways to encapsulate such data tho'. > 2). What framework leverages the best practices for setting up and > integrating "Model" level functionality. (Transfer, Reactor ect) Personally, I think ColdSpring + Transfer is a great combination here. ColdSpring deals with dependencies and initialization. Transfer deals with persistence and caching. Together they let you build and manage much of your model infrastructure. ColdSpring + Transfer can be used with any of the presentation tier frameworks. > 3). What framework leverages the best practices for structuring and calling > "View" or "display" oriented functionality. Any of the presentation tier frameworks. > 4). What framework leverages the best practices for organizing "Controller > Files" Any of the presentation tier frameworks. > 5). What framework leverages the best library of UDF's for extending > coldfusion's data, formatting, scheduling, etc functions. Hard to tell what you mean here. onTap probably has the biggest built-in library of UDF. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276817 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: and server 2003 R2 SBS
Did you try starting from the root of your directory? start="dc=jhfbm,dc=local" -Original Message- From: Stephen Good [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: and server 2003 R2 SBS Hey Gang, I am running a server Windows 2003 R2 Small Business Server with CFMX7. I have been able to authenticate with cfntauthenticate for site logins, and I can query the Users cn in AD using cfldap. However all my users are not stored under the Users cn, they are stored in MyBusiness > Users > SBSUsers, which means when i run the query, it doesn't return the correct set of users. My question is this. How do I query the SBSUsers cn? Here's what I use to query the normal Users cn. Thanks for any help, and let me know if yall need more info from me. ~Steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276804 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Help with Ajax Grid.
We have had good success with dhtmlxGrid. It has built-in AJAX support. We use it in conjunction with JSMX for our AJAX communication. http://www.scbr.com/docs/products/dhtmlxGrid/ -John > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a very simple > to implement Ajax style grid. I have been assigned a project here and > of course it needs to be done by Monday morning. I am trying to find > a grid that will allow me to having a paging option and the ability to > add/update a record. I can find plenty of .Net based grids, but I am > having a hard time finding a CF based grid. > > What they want is a grid that will display say 10 records with a > paging control for the next record(s) and of course the ability to > edit/update or create a new record on the fly. > > Thanks > mario > => = > Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic > communications disclaimer: > > http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html => = ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276816 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Preventing cache in IE with cfheader
I'm having trouble getting IE not to cache image files on a particular page. I have a page where image files can be uploaded and overwrite existing files (similar to a Myspace type page that displays your picture; you can upload another gif or jpg via form field, submit, and then page refreshes). The file uploads, but the browser is still caching; the refreshed page still shows the old image file. In order to prevent browser caching of image files, I've used , and also added for good measure. Firefox seems to respond to this, but not IE(7). Am I doing something wrong, or is IE just a less than optimal browser? ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276812 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFC Lib?
CFCZone is the current place, and yes, it doesn't have a lot of content. This wasn't for lack of trying - folks just didn't submit much content. Thats part of the reason to roll it into CFLib, so we have a one stop place. As for the Exchange... well. I _used_ to like it back in the old days, when it was fast. ;) On 5/2/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cfczone.org I think it is, but doesn't have much content. May as well look > at the developer zone (devnet) > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: regex for whitespace at start of string
does ltrim() not get the tabs or newline characters? On 5/2/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ^\W > > -Original Message- > From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:14 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: regex for whitespace at start of string > > What's the regex I want to remove tabs, line breaks, and spaces from the > START of a string? > > > > Thanks. > > > > ~Brad > > > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276814 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: This is wierd
It did and I renamed it and still the same problem. On 5/2/07, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Could it be that your insert query has the same name as the first select > query ? > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276813 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: regex for whitespace at start of string
Thanks. I was trying something with \s. Is there a reason you use \W (non-alphanumeric)? ~Brad -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: regex for whitespace at start of string ^\W -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: regex for whitespace at start of string What's the regex I want to remove tabs, line breaks, and spaces from the START of a string? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276811 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: This is wierd
>>the date enters fine but my select query (which is happening BEFORE the insert and is wrapped in a CFIF to eliminate entering duplicate data) is returning a record count of 1 anyway. Could it be that your insert query has the same name as the first select query ? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276810 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: regex for whitespace at start of string
^\W -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: regex for whitespace at start of string What's the regex I want to remove tabs, line breaks, and spaces from the START of a string? Thanks. ~Brad ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276809 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
regex for whitespace at start of string
What's the regex I want to remove tabs, line breaks, and spaces from the START of a string? Thanks. ~Brad ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276808 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Imagemagick CFEXECUTE identify
>use the outputfile attribute of cfexecute, conversely, you could pipe >the output to a text file and then read in the text file. > >On 5/2/07, Jeff Wickersty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I tried that, using variable="some_name" but that variable apparently isnt getting created. outputFile isnt doing anything either. It doesnt make sense b/c i know mogrify and convert work (albeit without any kind of text output, which is uneccessary in those situations) jeff ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276807 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF and Unix Timestamps
Yeah, you were right though, anyway. Serves me right for pasting code from my scratch pad into CF-Talk without making sure it doesn't suck. :-) On May 2, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Rick Root wrote: > Hah, I totally read Paul's response wrong and now I see he already > told you you didn't need the createodbcdatetime() call ;) ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276803 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF and Unix Timestamps
Hah, I totally read Paul's response wrong and now I see he already told you you didn't need the createodbcdatetime() call ;) ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276802 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF and Unix Timestamps
On 5/2/07, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Clausen wrote: > > > > > > you don't need this step. > > > It's also worth mentioning that you don't need THIS step: the only purpose for the createODBCDateTime() is to use IN a query, and it's not necessary if you're using cfqueryparam. Rick ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276801 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF and Unix Timestamps
Thanks, Paul! I guess I was totally mis-interpreting what the actual problem was. I don't know why I had that CreateODBCDateTime in there...I copied that code out of my scratch file and was messing around with trying to make sure the timezone info was there. Thanks for the assist. That does the trick. Jon On May 2, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Paul Hastings wrote: > Jon Clausen wrote: >> >> > > you don't need this step. > >> > > that gives java epoch, *milliseconds* since 1-jan-1970. > >> through digging around in java docs. Instead I need to pass a 32- >> bit timestamp. > > unix epoch is *seconds* since 1-jan-1970. either divide the java > epoch by 1000 > or simply do a dateDiff() from 1-jan-1970 using second date parts. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276800 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF and Unix Timestamps
Jon Clausen wrote: > > you don't need this step. > that gives java epoch, *milliseconds* since 1-jan-1970. > through digging around in java docs. Instead I need to pass a 32- > bit timestamp. unix epoch is *seconds* since 1-jan-1970. either divide the java epoch by 1000 or simply do a dateDiff() from 1-jan-1970 using second date parts. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276799 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Blending JS with CFForm for password verification fields
We're running into problems mixing our JS with cfinput. We have two CFinputs that are "Password" and "ConfPassword" and we want to be able to make them required using the cfinput, but we'd like to add that additional validation that both fields match, onSubmit. Anyone done this with CFFORM and CFINPUT? -- Jeff Small LHWH Advertising Myrtle Beach, SC 29577 843-448-1123 Ext 254 ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276798 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
head scratcher
Trying to dynamically insert anchors. I have an alpha list each letter has an href A, etc. It's supposed to correspond to a list of links below it (which is generated by looping over an array) If I just insert an anchor above the name I can give each link an anchor, but. What I need is one anchor before the A's, one before the B's etc. #arrBrowse[i].J ournalTitle# #ar rBrowse[i].TopicTitle# #arrBrowse[i].arrJournals[j].journalTitle# -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276797 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
CF and Unix Timestamps
So I'm working on some code to interface with a webservice using PHP and they require that a UNIX (Epoch) timestamp be passed to retrieve data which has been modified from that date. No problem. I use something like the following to generate the timestamp: Unfortunately that generates a 64-bit timestamp, which I found trying to validate the date at http://www.unixtimestamp.com/index.php and through digging around in java docs. Instead I need to pass a 32- bit timestamp. Does anyone have an idea of how to convert the timestamp to 32-bit? I've dug around for awhile and it seems that java.util.Calendar 's getTime() returns 32-bit, but I'm unaware of any CF Date/Time functions which use that under the hood. Thanks, Jon ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276796 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
and server 2003 R2 SBS
Hey Gang, I am running a server Windows 2003 R2 Small Business Server with CFMX7. I have been able to authenticate with cfntauthenticate for site logins, and I can query the Users cn in AD using cfldap. However all my users are not stored under the Users cn, they are stored in MyBusiness > Users > SBSUsers, which means when i run the query, it doesn't return the correct set of users. My question is this. How do I query the SBSUsers cn? Here's what I use to query the normal Users cn. Thanks for any help, and let me know if yall need more info from me. ~Steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276795 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Imagemagick CFEXECUTE identify
use the outputfile attribute of cfexecute, conversely, you could pipe the output to a text file and then read in the text file. On 5/2/07, Jeff Wickersty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks. > > I'm using ImageMagick on my CF7 UNix server. I can use > > > What I want to do is use CFEXECUTE NAME="identify"... to find out information > about an uploaded file. For example: > > > > However, Im not sure how to handle this. Obviously, I don't need to "see" the > output when I do a mogrify. It just does its job and makes the conversions > and I'm set. But with identify, I obviously need to get the returned > information. How do I do that? > > Thanks for the help! > > Jeff > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: A lesson in caching and performance
> Now I'm caching the rss feed and only loading it on application > restart and also randomly every 1000 requests or so I had similar issues so the way I solved it was to write a mini aggregator. It consumes the RSS feeds I want on a schedule and dumps the RSS into a clob in the DB. That way, if the RSS feed I want to get is down, I still had the old one and I limited my RSS consumption to a rate I was happy with in the aggregator on a per feed basis... The RSS feeds get pulled from the DB and parsed in the usual manner for inclusion into the site... works a treat :) Paul ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276793 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CFUNITED news: Testing for Accessibility, MiniMAX, Journey to CFUNITED video contest
Here is the ColdFusion and Fusebox news: * New CFUNITED attendee Interview Video and Journey to CFUNITED contest * MiniMAX June 26th, pre-CFUnited conference http://www.minimaxconference.com/ * CFLive Schedule * IPv6 Conference 5/10/07 http://www.IPv6.TheNewNewInternet.com/ * New sponsor Savvy Software * New CFUNITED podcasts released http://cfunited.com/blog/index.cfm/podcast - Tom Link - Flex 2.0 Event Model - Sean Corfield - Objects and Persistence * Fusebox new samples apps under development * Interview with Sandra Clark on "Testing for Accessibility" "It is the largest conference for CF targeted specifically for developers. It is run by developers for developers. I can learn from other developers real world experience and real user case studies so I can see what my collegues at other organizations are doing. And it is just a great time to be had by all." -Barbara ONeal (CFUNITED attendee) Other great quotes from attendees about "Why people should attend CFUnited" http://cfunited.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/4/30/Survey-Contest-Winner * New CFUNITED attendee Interview Video and Journey to CFUNITED contest Have you seen the interview video on our homepage yet? Yeah, the one with Rob Gonda's face on it. We put together a little something from interviews we conducted at CFUnited 2006. See peoples reactions to our event and hear what they like about CFUnited. Thank you CFDynamics for helping us publish the video online. Also Nafisa, a CFUnited staff member, will be putting together the next video soon. She is conducting a new contest for attendees. Contest rules and results: Tell us your journey to CFUnited and what you are looking forward to most. Post your short video on YouTube with CFUNITED Journey in the title, email to nafisa (at) teratech.com with CFUNITED Journey in the subject line and she will choose 3 entries to post on our home page. Those who get re-posted on our website will get fame, fortune and be given a $50 gift certificate to BestBuy! Submit entries by June 5th. Have fun! Here are some ideas: * the moment when you receive your pamphlet in the mail * telling your friends about CFUnited * choosing your sessions online * when you receive your cap or t-shirt in the mail * tell us what you look forward to the most * funny tales about your past experiences * footage/pictures from your journey last year - the journey can be put together with photo's, video, animation, etc Entries will be judged on originality, humor and how well they convey the spirit of CFUNITED. All entries grant permission to TeraTech to display them on the CFUNITED website, at the show and in other media. -final video should be no longer then 5 mins long. * MiniMAX June 26th, pre-CFUnited conference http://www.minimaxconference.com/ Join dataTV's Adam Bell for the prelude to the CFUnited Conference on Tuesday Evening, June 26th at 8PM ET at the Marriott Hotel in North Bethesda, MD for MiniMAX's seventh annual event. This event is free to anyone who wants to attend. You don't even need to be registered for CFUnited to join Adam Bell and friends at this fun evening event! You must signup to reserve a seat at http://www.minimaxconference.com/ * CFLive Schedule We will be holding a series of online talks with CFUNITED speakers starting next Thursday. Watch out for the URL next week. 5/10/07 Charlie Arehart New in CFMX 6&7: What Did You Miss? 5/17/07 Simon Horwith - Architecting and Optimizing CF Applications for Performance and Scalability 5/24/07 Rob Gonda Flex Intensive for ColdFusion Developers 5/31/07 O?uz Demirkap? Multi Language Applications in CF in Theory and Practice 6/7/07 Peter Bell "Practical Code Generation: By Example" 6/14/07 Patrick Quinn UI design concepts 6/21/07 Mark Drew "CFeclipse Plus!" 6/28/07 Live from show * IPv6 Conference 5/10/07 There are less than 8 days left register for The New New Internet: IPv6 Conference coming to Arlington VA on May 10th! The event covers the most important and timely IPv6 issues with some first time appearances including: * First-time panel with the entire CIO Council IPv6 Working Group * Carol Bales - Senior Policy Analyst, OMB * Fred Schobert - Networx Program Manager, GSA * Dr. Ray Johnson - CTO Lockheed Martin * Dr. John D. Howard - Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Intelligence Community Enterprise Services * Jim Bound - CTO IPv6 Forum * Brad Ryan - Chief Technical Architect, Juniper Networks For the most up-to-date information and registration visit: http://www.IPv6.TheNewNewInternet.com Please use the following link to get $25 off your registration by using my promotion code "JDK07": https://www.execbizevents.com/ExecutiveBiz/events/register.php?event_id=60&promo=JDK07 * New CFUNITED Sponsor, Savvy Software We have a new Bronze LevelSponsor! Savvy Software is the developer of Savvy Content Manager - rapidly becoming the go to solution for web content management More at http://
RE: Root relative vs. relative links
> Ah, so then your paths to your local sites would look like: > http://localhost:port1/ > http://localhost:port2/ > > I think I'm feelin' it now... In my case, instead of using different ports, I'd use host header support, which lets you have multiple virtual servers listening on TCP/80, and differentiating requests by host header name. But yeah, basically the same thing. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276791 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: directory watcher
Andrew, I have no clue what are you talking about??? where I am using param?? Can you please explain??? -- Regards, >why do you not try attachment instead of param... > > > >On 5/2/07, Asim Manzur wrote: >> ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276790 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Root relative vs. relative links
> You can run multiple virtual servers with Apache, and either bind them to > different ports or host headers so that you can resolve to them on your > local machine. I used to use Apache on my XP development laptop for just > this reason. I'd use host headers, then put corresponding entries in my > hosts file to resolve the host header names to 127.0.0.1. Ah, so then your paths to your local sites would look like: http://localhost:port1/ http://localhost:port2/ I think I'm feelin' it now... ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276789 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
This is wierd
OK, I have a page where the user enters an election date. When they enter the date I first check to see if this council has an election date already. If it does I generate a message that says there is already an election date for this council and I give them a link to edit the current date. If it there is no election date, then I let them enter the date and Id number of the council. Well, what is happening is that when I enter a date for a council that I know does not already have an election date (I clear the table of all date), and then enter a new date, the date enters fine but my select query (which is happening BEFORE the insert and is wrapped in a CFIF to eliminate entering duplicate data) is returning a record count of 1 anyway. I even ran SQL Profiler to look at the sequence of events and all events are happening in the order that they should I am going to go ahead and re-write this part of the app so that when the user selects a neighborhood council, I query the database and if there is already an election date in the table then I will send them to the edit form rather than the insert new record form. This should eliminate unnecessary trips to the database. But I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this. I can attach code if need be. Thanks, -- Bruce Sorge "I'm a mawg: half man, half dog. I'm my own best friend!" ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276788 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
A lesson in caching and performance
I have a blog. On the home page of my web site, I use Ray's rss.cfc to "syndicate" the last 10 blog entries from my personal blog, from my opensourcecf.com blog, and the last 10 updated photo galleries from google's picasaweb http://www.rickroot.com/ I also have a few web pages with silly flash games and videos and stuff on them. Like this one: http://www.webworksllc.com/I_Like_You.cfm A few days ago, I decided to put the last 3 blog entries on those pages, using the rss CFC just like I do on my personal home page... you know, maybe drive extra readers to my blog. This generated something in the neighborhood of 500-1000 requests per hour to my rss feed on rickroot.com Of course, the feed itself changes AT MOST 3-4 times a day At any rate, over the last few days, since I implemented that, Coldfusion started crapping out every so often - a problem I've never had before on this server. Took me a little while but after looking through logs and stuff, I finally figured out that rss.cfc was causing timeouts somewhere, and eventually this would bring coldfusion down because of the amount of requests that were getting hung up. Now I'm caching the rss feed and only loading it on application restart and also randomly every 1000 requests or so Hopefully, problem solved! Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276787 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Root relative vs. relative links
> Suppose you have a site in production - where "/" maps to the > site root. You don't have control over the production environment > web server (it's shared hosting perhaps). > > But you have multiple sites on your local development box > where you would have to use "/site1", "/site2" or whatever to > map to the site roots. You can't use "/" because your local > web server wouldn't know which of your sites to map to. > > How do you resolve this by adding sites in Apache? You can run multiple virtual servers with Apache, and either bind them to different ports or host headers so that you can resolve to them on your local machine. I used to use Apache on my XP development laptop for just this reason. I'd use host headers, then put corresponding entries in my hosts file to resolve the host header names to 127.0.0.1. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276786 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: dump http hit
A CFHTTP call is way for your page to make a "page request" of it's own. This basically grabs the contents of the target URL as if you were looking at it in a browser. You can use this to grab data from a web service or to grab a CSV file and convert it into a query or something. Very cool stuff. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: dump http hit Yes data is being posted to my cfm page and I want to dump any data that is posted to it in a email. Id don't quite follow your example. What do you mean http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276785 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFC Lib?
Cfczone.org I think it is, but doesn't have much content. May as well look at the developer zone (devnet) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Leitch, Oblio To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed May 02 17:07:33 2007 Subject: CFC Lib? Does anyone know of a good CFC library akin to cflib.org? I miss the days of the Allaire CF Exchange... This email message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this email message from your computer. CAUTION: The Agency of Human Services cannot ensure the confidentiality or security of email transmissions. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276784 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Imagemagick CFEXECUTE identify
Hi folks. I'm using ImageMagick on my CF7 UNix server. I can use However, Im not sure how to handle this. Obviously, I don't need to "see" the output when I do a mogrify. It just does its job and makes the conversions and I'm set. But with identify, I obviously need to get the returned information. How do I do that? Thanks for the help! Jeff ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276783 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFC Lib?
According to Ray, CFLib will "soon" have CFCs. -Original Message- From: Leitch, Oblio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFC Lib? Does anyone know of a good CFC library akin to cflib.org? I miss the days of the Allaire CF Exchange... This email message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this email message from your computer. CAUTION: The Agency of Human Services cannot ensure the confidentiality or security of email transmissions. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276782 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: dump http hit
I'm assuming that he's pulling it as he doesn't know what format the XML is in. -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: dump http hit Ooooh. Maybe I misunderstood. My example assumes that data is being posted TO you. Andy's assumes that data is PULLED BY you. Both good examples. ... Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: dump http hit Or if you're dumping the results into a variable: ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276781 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: dump http hit
Yes data is being posted to my cfm page and I want to dump any data that is posted to it in a email. Id don't quite follow your example. What do you mean mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: dump http hit Ooooh. Maybe I misunderstood. My example assumes that data is being posted TO you. Andy's assumes that data is PULLED BY you. Both good examples. ... Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: dump http hit Or if you're dumping the results into a variable: ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276780 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
