SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality
Hello We have just rolled out a site that incorporates a flash menu. The menu was designed to have to be clicked in order to see the submenu items, instead of the traditional rollover to view the items. I have voiced my concern with this method of clicking the parent menu item in order to see the submenu items instead of the rollover functionality as now we have a 3-click navigation instead of a 2 click navigation to get to pages within folders. The url for the site is www.jetstreammedia.com then click on the jetstreammedia puzzle piece, lemme know what you guys think Jason Jason Rogoz Programmer / Analyst Zoom Communications Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada Office: (403) 229-2511 Direct: (403) 718-2213 Fax: (403) 229-4211 Toll Free: 1-866-698-8932 www.zoomcom.ca http://www.zoomcom.ca/ ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280102 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
On Tuesday 05 Jun 2007, John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: Clearly those people have never tried to develop with Drupal :) That'll fix them. OTOH, it makes writing a Drupal-CF bridge a whole lot easier :-) And by extension, a Flex frontend to Drupal :-) -- Tom Chiverton, whos blog runs Drupal This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280103 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Hey Rick... just some comments: A. I know 5 or 6 owners of rather large hosting companies (10-2) and not one thought it was a good idea. The concept is nice, but utterly pointless in regards to the overhead and added complications involved... if you really want to share sessions between PHP and Coldfusion, it can be done. If you want to integrate something from PHP to CF, it can be done. B. Like I mentioned, just use PHP. I don't see the need to have shared execution with this one at all. C. This brings us back to the question... what makes this a good idea? Why overly complicate something? I'm sure this might piss some people off, but I don't think Coldfusion is the be all and end all. I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Sometimes CF isn't up to the task and something else better suites the situation. The part of this conversation that scares me is that the whole thing runs around the idea of being able to swing PHP/.NET/Drupal (=]) guys over to CF because of what it could accomplish... and sorry to say, but that won't work either. PHP guys aren't used to PAYING for their environment... nor would any of them start to just because they see a few things that are neat. I've said this before and I'll say it again, Coldfusion will never take on the same amount of developers as PHP/.Net/Java while theirs a price tag involved for the standard edition. If they want a larger developers pool, than strip down the standard edition, give it away, and watch the money pour in for the added features and abilities of the Enterprise edition. And the funny part about how I know this... I was the PHP developer who felt that way before my current job. !k -Original Message- From: Rick Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page Kevin, Here's a couple of ideas that come to mind: A. You're a hosting company and it's a lot simpler to all of sudden be offering PHP and Ruby hosting without having to install the extra bits on the server. You have less maintenance and your clients programs run a bit faster than most other hosts. B. You're a corporate site with some PHP apps (or there's one you would like to use), again much simpler with fewer chance of complication. C. You're a corporate site with a mixture of CF and PHP and the VP wants to move everything to one environment ( PHP) and rewrite the CF apps. You can suddenly make a pretty good case for staying the course and running everything through CF-8. I am not saying integration isn't important too but I think Sean's onto something that could be much larger than you think. Rick Mason On 6/4/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real million dollar question is why would you want to? Almost anything PHP can do, CF can do. Almost anything CF can do, .NET can do. Almost anything .NET can do, PHP can do. Unless you want to take advantage of the thousands of crappy opensource PHP apps that are out there, but if that's the case, save some time and just open up your firewall. =] !k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page For those of you who don't know, Coldfusion is built upon Java. Someone has taken it upon themselves to write a Java library, called Quertus, which parses PHP code. Someone else then built upon THAT and wrote a Coldfusion library which references the Quertus library and allows you to combine PHP and Coldfusion code on the same page, pass variables back and forth to each other and more. http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/ColdFusion_8_running_ PHP I don't know what the speed is (probably not as fast as the native zend interpreter, but still...PHP code mixed in with CF code is pretty kick ass. I read that someone else has done the same thing for Ruby. Andy Matthews Senior Coldfusion Developer Office: 877.707.5467 x747 Direct: 615.627.9747 Fax: 615.467.6249 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dealerskins.com http://www.dealerskins.com/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280105 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
I can think of one real world example that I cannot do with CF at unless I'm on a 64-bit JVM. For me dropping into PHP to do that tiny bit would solve a whole host of albeit self imposed issues surrounding the use of CFHTTP to call a math function that returns a very large integer as the HTTP response string. In case you are wondering what task I need this for, it's to calculate Page Rank hashes. Paul ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280106 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Actually, Quercus runs phpBB, Wordpress, Drupal and a bunch of other stuff essentially out of the box. Sean's using part of the Quercus technology to provide the CF integration, but it it is possible to deploy Quercus by itself in a J2EE server to make it run whole PHP apps. On 6/5/07, Damien McKenna wrote: From what I've seen you also are not going to be able to automagically run existing PHP, Ruby, etc software out of the box, there would be a great deal of modification required to get the files to parse, BICBW. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280108 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
passing long list of values
How can I pass values to another page via a URL without listing all of them within the URL tag? After a certain field is checked, it uses a CFLocation tag and the url, but I have many fields to embed. Is there a better way? How about Cftemplate? Hidden fields wouldn't work w/a URL? cfoutput CFLocation url=anotherpage.cfm?insidesalesrep=#form.insidesalesrep#... /cfoutput Thanks. RO HWW ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280109 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page)
I would definitely prove to him that a classic ASP component can't compare to the modern stuff that's out. Also, unless it uses a DLL (crap), there's no reason that you could reverse engineer it to use it in a custom tag. If it uses a DLL, than there's your reason to change... !k -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page) Here is a real-word application for interoperability: The company that I work for just bought another company that has a CMS written in classic ASP. They utilize CuteEditor (http://cutesoft.net/asp/). I have been tasked with porting their CMS to ColdFusion... kicker is that the boss wants to keep on using CuteEditor. It's an ASP only component. In talking with CuteSoft I was told that there is a way to use the editor in a pop-up, still less than helpfull. Any suggestions? Hatton ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280110 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page)
On 6/5/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would definitely prove to him that a classic ASP component can't compare to the modern stuff that's out. Also, unless it uses a DLL (crap), there's no reason that you could reverse engineer it to use it in a custom tag. It's actually a VBScript class actually a TON of different pages. Time is the reason that I can't reverse engineer the tool. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280111 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: passing long list of values
You could create a hidden form with all of your fields: form name=someform action=anotherpage.cfm method=post !--- put hidden fields here --- /form Submit the form via JS: script language=Javascript document.someform.submit(); /script The only problem with this method is the first page has to load before it goes to the next page. Anyway you could just use cfinclude template= anotherpage.cfm instead of the cflocation. Why do you need cflocation? Brook -Original Message- From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 5, 2007 9:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: passing long list of values How can I pass values to another page via a URL without listing all of them within the URL tag? After a certain field is checked, it uses a CFLocation tag and the url, but I have many fields to embed. Is there a better way? How about Cftemplate? Hidden fields wouldn't work w/a URL? cfoutput CFLocation url=anotherpage.cfm?insidesalesrep=#form.insidesalesrep#... /cfoutput Thanks. RO HWW ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
New CFUG: Calling All Central California Developers
This past week I applied as a manager of a new ColdFusion User Group for the Fresno area (beginning, intermediate and advanced developers from Bakersfield to Modesto are welcome to join!). I considered naming it the Central Valley CFUG (CVCFUG) but decided that NOCFUG had a bit more flare and is more accurate since the meetings will be in Fresno (NO), California. My application has been approved and I have already setup a hosting account with CFDynamics! I hope to a site up in the next couple of weeks. After we make our two-month mark, I also plan to host Adobe Connect presentations on a regular basis (at least once a month) with guest speakers such as Luis Majano (ColdBox), PeterBell (LightWire), Adam Fortuna (ColdCourse) Brian Kotek, Sean Corfield, Rob Gonda, Paul Marchotte and others (pending their acceptance of my invitation). If you or somebody you know is a ColdFusion developer (or would like to learn CFML) and you live in the central valley, please let me know by email or responding to this thread. Our group will cover the following topics: CFML basics Best practices Making the transition to OO CF frameworks Security Flex and more (members suggestions welcome) Your facilitator, Aaron Roberson P.S. If you do not live in the Central Valley you may still join our group for the live, interactive online presentations. So tell a friend, and remember to visit www.nocfug.com in the next couple weeks! ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280113 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Open link and CF MX7
I am using the odbc socket datasource. Shawn ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280115 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Looking for opinions on menu functionality
We have just rolled out a site that incorporates a flash menu. The menu was designed to have to be clicked in order to see the submenu items, instead of the traditional rollover to view the items. I think it's fine either rollover or click. As long as people know how to get from point A to point B and there's no ambiguity you're in good shape. -- Josh ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280116 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
C. This brings us back to the question... what makes this a good idea? Why overly complicate something? While it may not be common, there are a lot of large organizations out there with multiple applications in multiple languages. Having a tool that can integrate these applications can be very powerful. Getting a couple of developers up to speed on CF to write some glue code to get, say a .NET app and a PHP app talking to one another may make more sense than completely porting applications to another language. This isn't just an abstract scenario - this is a potential solution to a real world situation I was in a year or so ago - two large (50+) development teams combined - one team was .NET, one was Java, and they wanted to create a system that could leverage apps from both teams. The solution, at the time, was to choose .NET as the standard, and port all of the Java code. Ick. Now with CF8's .NET support, one or two developers could simply have created the bridge app, and the rest of the developers could have continued moving forward with either Java or .NET or both. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280117 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality
THAT IS SOOO NICE. Perhaps, THE NICEST MENU I HAVE SEEN YET. - Original Message From: Jason Rogoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 8:24:12 AM Subject: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality Hello We have just rolled out a site that incorporates a flash menu. The menu was designed to have to be clicked in order to see the submenu items, instead of the traditional rollover to view the items. I have voiced my concern with this method of clicking the parent menu item in order to see the submenu items instead of the rollover functionality as now we have a 3-click navigation instead of a 2 click navigation to get to pages within folders. The url for the site is www.jetstreammedia.com then click on the jetstreammedia puzzle piece, lemme know what you guys think Jason Jason Rogoz Programmer / Analyst Zoom Communications Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada Office: (403) 229-2511 Direct: (403) 718-2213 Fax: (403) 229-4211 Toll Free: 1-866-698-8932 www.zoomcom.ca http://www.zoomcom.ca/ ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280118 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Ignoring Application.cfc or .cfm
Is there a tag I can use on my page to ignore an application.cfc in the root directory? Additionally, how many directories above the page being called will CF travel to look for an application.cfc or .cfm file? Will it look keep going until it reaches the server root directory? Thanks! John ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280119 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: passing long list of values
put them in session then cflocate - Original Message From: Orlini, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 9:05:11 AM Subject: passing long list of values How can I pass values to another page via a URL without listing all of them within the URL tag? After a certain field is checked, it uses a CFLocation tag and the url, but I have many fields to embed. Is there a better way? How about Cftemplate? Hidden fields wouldn't work w/a URL? cfoutput CFLocation url=anotherpage.cfm?insidesalesrep=#form.insidesalesrep#... /cfoutput Thanks. RO HWW ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280120 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Ignoring Application.cfc or .cfm
John, Yep, all the way up. And to get it to ignore it, just add one in your own folder. --- Ben -Original Message- From: John P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Ignoring Application.cfc or .cfm Is there a tag I can use on my page to ignore an application.cfc in the root directory? Additionally, how many directories above the page being called will CF travel to look for an application.cfc or .cfm file? Will it look keep going until it reaches the server root directory? Thanks! John ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280121 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
-Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page On 6/5/07, Damien McKenna wrote: From what I've seen you also are not going to be able to automagically run existing PHP, Ruby, etc software out of the box, there would be a great deal of modification required to get the files to parse, BICBW. Actually, Quercus runs phpBB, Wordpress, Drupal and a bunch of other stuff essentially out of the box. Quercus is one thing, embedded within CF8 is another due to the extra layers involved. Sean's using part of the Quercus technology to provide the CF integration, but it it is possible to deploy Quercus by itself in a J2EE server to make it run whole PHP apps. Again, at that point you're taking CF out of the equation and dealing directly with the PHP runtime environment provided by Quercus, or JRuby (which is able to run the full Rails suite), etc. That said, it will be interesting to see exactly how much complication is added by running it through CF, Sean's experiment will be interesting to follow. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280122 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Ignoring Application.cfc or .cfm
Great, thanks Ben! John, Yep, all the way up. And to get it to ignore it, just add one in your own folder. --- Ben -Original Message- From: John P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Ignoring Application.cfc or .cfm Is there a tag I can use on my page to ignore an application.cfc in the root directory? Additionally, how many directories above the page being called will CF travel to look for an application.cfc or .cfm file? Will it look keep going until it reaches the server root directory? Thanks! John ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280123 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
So patch the problem and deal with it later? And who's best practices do you follow? And which company do you call when it breaks? Every example, though valid, is still an instance of the easy way instead of the right way... and that's fine if you're happy with that But I'm not... !k -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page C. This brings us back to the question... what makes this a good idea? Why overly complicate something? While it may not be common, there are a lot of large organizations out there with multiple applications in multiple languages. Having a tool that can integrate these applications can be very powerful. Getting a couple of developers up to speed on CF to write some glue code to get, say a .NET app and a PHP app talking to one another may make more sense than completely porting applications to another language. This isn't just an abstract scenario - this is a potential solution to a real world situation I was in a year or so ago - two large (50+) development teams combined - one team was .NET, one was Java, and they wanted to create a system that could leverage apps from both teams. The solution, at the time, was to choose .NET as the standard, and port all of the Java code. Ick. Now with CF8's .NET support, one or two developers could simply have created the bridge app, and the rest of the developers could have continued moving forward with either Java or .NET or both. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280124 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open link and CF MX7
On 6/5/07, Shawn Slaughter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using the odbc socket datasource. Shawn Shawn, It's been quite a while since I did this upgrade, but I remember something about the upgrade adding a default username and password into the CF datasouce setup and this caused a connection issue if your database did not use one. Try going into the datasource definition in the CF admin and remove username and password if one exists. Dean -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280125 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: passing long list of values
If the list of params is very long it is safer to use form POST, but of course avoid using JS submit unless you really have to. (or if web standards and accessibility are already neglected, which is likely considering the audience ;) - Original Message - From: blists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: RE: passing long list of values You could create a hidden form with all of your fields: form name=someform action=anotherpage.cfm method=post !--- put hidden fields here --- /form Submit the form via JS: script language=Javascript document.someform.submit(); /script The only problem with this method is the first page has to load before it goes to the next page. Anyway you could just use cfinclude template= anotherpage.cfm instead of the cflocation. Why do you need cflocation? Brook -Original Message- From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 5, 2007 9:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: passing long list of values How can I pass values to another page via a URL without listing all of them within the URL tag? After a certain field is checked, it uses a CFLocation tag and the url, but I have many fields to embed. Is there a better way? How about Cftemplate? Hidden fields wouldn't work w/a URL? cfoutput CFLocation url=anotherpage.cfm?insidesalesrep=#form.insidesalesrep#... /cfoutput Thanks. RO HWW ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280126 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Q of Q record limitation?
Hey All, I've never really had much need for query of queries, but have used it more extensivley in a current application and am bumping into a few things. 1) Are outer joins possible? I've read some conflicting blogs/articles 2) Is there a recordset limitation? For example I'm trying to merge the results of 2 queries (each with just over 11,000 records) and as soon as that code is hit it just never comes back (until a timeout minutes later). The same merging of records with only 26 records per query is lightning fast. TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280127 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
help with WebCharts
Any WebCharts3D gurus out there? This email message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this email message from your computer. CAUTION: The Agency of Human Services cannot ensure the confidentiality or security of email transmissions. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280128 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Q of Q record limitation?
Hmm, it's possible, do you get OutOfMemory errors in the logs? That said, I would warn you off using QoQ / Queries (or a web application under load) to generate 20K recordsets, it's a terribly waste of memory, network and resources. What are the business requirements for these recordsets? Is is reporting? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jun 05 18:10:56 2007 Subject: Q of Q record limitation? Hey All, I've never really had much need for query of queries, but have used it more extensivley in a current application and am bumping into a few things. 1) Are outer joins possible? I've read some conflicting blogs/articles 2) Is there a recordset limitation? For example I'm trying to merge the results of 2 queries (each with just over 11,000 records) and as soon as that code is hit it just never comes back (until a timeout minutes later). The same merging of records with only 26 records per query is lightning fast. TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280129 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Porting functionality isn't interop though. That's a business decision to rewrite -- as well as bridge options now available to you you no doubt had Web services, COM, Shared DB procs as options? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jun 05 17:28:07 2007 Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page C. This brings us back to the question... what makes this a good idea? Why overly complicate something? While it may not be common, there are a lot of large organizations out there with multiple applications in multiple languages. Having a tool that can integrate these applications can be very powerful. Getting a couple of developers up to speed on CF to write some glue code to get, say a .NET app and a PHP app talking to one another may make more sense than completely porting applications to another language. This isn't just an abstract scenario - this is a potential solution to a real world situation I was in a year or so ago - two large (50+) development teams combined - one team was .NET, one was Java, and they wanted to create a system that could leverage apps from both teams. The solution, at the time, was to choose .NET as the standard, and port all of the Java code. Ick. Now with CF8's .NET support, one or two developers could simply have created the bridge app, and the rest of the developers could have continued moving forward with either Java or .NET or both. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280130 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Q of Q record limitation?
Hmm, it's possible, do you get OutOfMemory errors in the logs? Haven't checked yetand actually have been killing the threads via Fusion Reactor when they got up around 300,000 ms!! ;-) That said, I would warn you off using QoQ / Queries (or a web application under load) to generate 20K recordsets, it's a terribly waste of memory, network and resources. As I'm finding ;-) What are the business requirements for these recordsets? Is is reporting? Yes...reporting. I've actually alredy abandonded this approach for another that will be much simpler to maintain and fatser to run, but I'd still like to know if there are these limitations in QofQs or if it may be something elselooks like there are those limitations. Thanks Neil Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280131 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Out of curiosity, why is that a problem with cfhttp? -Original Message- From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page I can think of one real world example that I cannot do with CF at unless I'm on a 64-bit JVM. For me dropping into PHP to do that tiny bit would solve a whole host of albeit self imposed issues surrounding the use of CFHTTP to call a math function that returns a very large integer as the HTTP response string. In case you are wondering what task I need this for, it's to calculate Page Rank hashes. Paul ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280132 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
On 6/5/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So patch the problem and deal with it later? I didn't say it was ideal, but in a business situation when you have numerous, large legacy apps, and your choice is to spend a small amount of effort to do some integration, vs. multiple thousands of man hours recreating the wheel simply so everyone is using the same environment, idealism often takes a back seat. And who's best practices do you follow? Best practices aren't language-specific. You can institute practices that apply to everyone. And which company do you call when it breaks? Depends on what breaks. Since this is in-house developed software, it would be whomever wrote it who, one would presume, wouldn't be hard to find. Every example, though valid, is still an instance of the easy way instead of the right way... and that's fine if you're happy with that If easy is (literally) millions of dollars in developer time cheaper than right, easy quickly becomes right. But I'm not... It's nice that you have that luxury. Not everyone does. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280133 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality
Nice and slow bouncy. BTW, if you click the green area around the text/logo you're sent to http://www.xtend.tv/index.html which is missing. Mik At 12:35 PM 6/5/2007, Ariel Jakobovits wrote: THAT IS SOOO NICE. Perhaps, THE NICEST MENU I HAVE SEEN YET. - Original Message From: Jason Rogoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 8:24:12 AM Subject: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality Hello We have just rolled out a site that incorporates a flash menu. The menu was designed to have to be clicked in order to see the submenu items, instead of the traditional rollover to view the items. I have voiced my concern with this method of clicking the parent menu item in order to see the submenu items instead of the rollover functionality as now we have a 3-click navigation instead of a 2 click navigation to get to pages within folders. The url for the site is www.jetstreammedia.com then click on the jetstreammedia puzzle piece, lemme know what you guys think Jason Michael Muller Admin, MontagueMA.net Website work (413) 863-0030 cell (413) 320-5336 skype: michaelBmuller http://www.MontagueMA.net Eschew Obfuscation ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280134 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
SOLVED? Re: Method=GET received as POST by CF
I also have JS validation, but I never imagine I would also have to check the value in the method attribute. And even so, if the error is caused by IE, the method value will probably be changed after the onsubmit event anyway. Claude - I may have solved this issue. So far no errors. In my JS validation, triggered by the onClick event of the submit button, I changed from using submit() to return true. As I am using a type=submit button (rather than a type=button button) this is the same thing. It could be that the problem is using the submit() method within JS. Now, if you're using a type=button button, this won't be of help, but if you are able to refactor to a type=submit button and do return true on successful JS validation, it may clear up the problem for you. -- Josh ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280135 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
On 6/5/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Porting functionality isn't interop though. That's a business decision to rewrite -- as well as bridge options now available to you you no doubt had Web services, COM, Shared DB procs as options? Absolutely. There are a lot of ways to skin the cat, and CF8 is looking like an interesting addition to that toolbox. My response is to the question why bother, which always strikes me as a silly question in general, because even if it's not the right answer in MOST cases, in those cases where it IS useful, it's VERY useful. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280136 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open link and CF MX7
I removed the system username, the connection was verified but when I went to the app I received this error: Executing Database Query. [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][SequeLink Server]Unable to retrieve error message from backend ODBC Driver. any clues?? SS ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280137 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Need hekp with INstallation of CF7 Apache
The only issue the proxy configuration has is that all the client IPs will look like they're coming from the front end server. There is a JRUN filter that I wrote (and someone else on here wrote a better one) that fixes that issue. Let me know if you want it and can't find it, and I'll see if I can pull up the thread. Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Need hekp with INstallation of CF7 Apache At this time we cannot upgrade apache , however we may have to install CF on the webserver. The goal was to seperate the two servers in/outside of the firewall Either the distributed mode configuration I mentioned, or the proxy configuration Damien mentioned, would be sufficient for this purpose. I'd probably go with the proxy approach, myself. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280139 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
How to escape the character # in a string
I am trying to do the following, newVar=Replace(var,#, ,ALL); but the # is throwing errors. I have tried ## and it runs, but will not replace the # in my strings. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dave Hatz ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280138 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Dave Watts wrote: Simply because you personally immediately see the benefits of integrating PHP into CFML code, doesn't mean that the value is not there. It only means that you can't see it (yet). One could say the same to your reaction to .NET. But then one could be accused of snarkiness, I suppose. Everyone knows I disagree with a lot of Microsoft philosophy, but I've honestly never had a problem with .NET integration. All I've said is that I would never use it. If it helps you, then good for you. It just won't help *everyone*. I've always believed in the freedom to choose. I see many similarities between .NET integration and PHP integration. I could say If you want to do .NET, then use .NET, but that would be a foolish statement - wouldn't you agree? This might be useful when transitioning from one environment to another, but beyond that, I just don't see much value. Whereas with Java and .NET, I can see all sorts of value from integration - primarily, because those are the big areas where people are writing business applications and components (and not necessarily web-specific stuff). I see where you're coming from, but that doesn't negate the potential usefulness of simply having the choice. -Jordan ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280140 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How to escape the character # in a string
doubling up on the # signs works for me. cfsavecontent variable=mystring we are #1! /cfsavecontent cfoutput #myString# br / #replace(mystring, ##, , all)# /cfoutput On 6/5/07, Dave Hatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to do the following, newVar=Replace(var,#, ,ALL); but the # is throwing errors. I have tried ## and it runs, but will not replace the # in my strings. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dave Hatz ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280141 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality
Hi Mik What page were you on when you encountered the error? Thanks Jason -Original Message- From: Mik Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality Nice and slow bouncy. BTW, if you click the green area around the text/logo you're sent to http://www.xtend.tv/index.html which is missing. Mik At 12:35 PM 6/5/2007, Ariel Jakobovits wrote: THAT IS SOOO NICE. Perhaps, THE NICEST MENU I HAVE SEEN YET. - Original Message From: Jason Rogoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 8:24:12 AM Subject: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality Hello We have just rolled out a site that incorporates a flash menu. The menu was designed to have to be clicked in order to see the submenu items, instead of the traditional rollover to view the items. I have voiced my concern with this method of clicking the parent menu item in order to see the submenu items instead of the rollover functionality as now we have a 3-click navigation instead of a 2 click navigation to get to pages within folders. The url for the site is www.jetstreammedia.com then click on the jetstreammedia puzzle piece, lemme know what you guys think Jason Michael Muller Admin, MontagueMA.net Website work (413) 863-0030 cell (413) 320-5336 skype: michaelBmuller http://www.MontagueMA.net Eschew Obfuscation ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280142 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: There is absolutely no basis in this, why wouldn't you touch it? Because I'm a firm believer in choice - and I find .NET restrictive and limiting. CFML upon .NET would be the same as running CFML upon Java False. .NET and Java are very different. Platform independence is one of the MANY ways that they are different. it would probably run faster as well. Presumption. Is it just a stupid anti-Microsoft stance? It is a pro-choice stance. I would say you are in the minority, certainly in the circles of technical fellows who understand and realise where .NET lies in the landscape.. You make it sound like I'm denying the existence of .NET. I'm fine with ..NET. If if helps you, then happy for you. I'm not denying that it can perform specific tasks. What I *AM* saying, (read this part carefully) is that it limits you in your choices once you invest in it. CFML, Java, PHP, and Ruby do not include this limitation, and also allow you to perform the same tasks that .NET does. So... why would I purposely chose to limit yourself when there are non-limiting alternatives available? I would be interested to see understand why it would have zero interest... It's simple really: I enjoy freedom. -Jordan ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280143 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How to escape the character # in a string
newVar=Replace(var,chr(35), ,ALL); or newVar=Replace(var,chr(35),chr(32),ALL); At 01:46 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: I am trying to do the following, newVar=Replace(var,#, ,ALL); but the # is throwing errors. I have tried ## and it runs, but will not replace the # in my strings. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dave Hatz ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280144 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How to escape the character # in a string
Dave Hatz wrote: I am trying to do the following, newVar=Replace(var,#, ,ALL); but the # is throwing errors. I have tried ## and it runs, but will not replace the # in my strings. Any suggestions? Maybe use the ASCII code, (35 for the pound sign, I believe)? newVar=Replace(var,Chr(35), ,ALL); ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280145 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality
www.jetstreammedia.com Using FF. You can see the URL when you mouse-over in the status bar. Mik At 02:06 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: Hi Mik What page were you on when you encountered the error? Thanks Jason -Original Message- From: Mik Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality Nice and slow bouncy. BTW, if you click the green area around the text/logo you're sent to http://www.xtend.tv/index.html which is missing. Mik At 12:35 PM 6/5/2007, Ariel Jakobovits wrote: THAT IS SOOO NICE. Perhaps, THE NICEST MENU I HAVE SEEN YET. - Original Message From: Jason Rogoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 8:24:12 AM Subject: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality Hello We have just rolled out a site that incorporates a flash menu. The menu was designed to have to be clicked in order to see the submenu items, instead of the traditional rollover to view the items. I have voiced my concern with this method of clicking the parent menu item in order to see the submenu items instead of the rollover functionality as now we have a 3-click navigation instead of a 2 click navigation to get to pages within folders. The url for the site is www.jetstreammedia.com then click on the jetstreammedia puzzle piece, lemme know what you guys think Jason Michael Muller Admin, MontagueMA.net Website work (413) 863-0030 cell (413) 320-5336 skype: michaelBmuller http://www.MontagueMA.net Eschew Obfuscation ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280146 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: why might sessions end more quickly after changing to linux/B D?
You might also increase the session timeout I will, but the session timeout is restarted with each page load, right? so I don't think that's it. This hasn't helped. I'll be the admin section, leave the page for 5 minutes, then try to load a page and I'm kicked out. What could I possibly check? apache/centos/bluedragon/vps if that might affect something. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280147 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: How to escape the character # in a string
That did the trickthanks for all the help guys. Dave -Original Message- From: Mik Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How to escape the character # in a string newVar=Replace(var,chr(35), ,ALL); or newVar=Replace(var,chr(35),chr(32),ALL); At 01:46 PM 6/5/2007, you wrote: I am trying to do the following, newVar=Replace(var,#, ,ALL); but the # is throwing errors. I have tried ## and it runs, but will not replace the # in my strings. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dave Hatz ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280148 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Doug, Don't get me wrong... I understand that in some circumstances, it's nearly impossible to implement what I'm talking about, but on the same token I had the choice to either provide the quick fix, or handle it the best I could when I took over a legacy app. Now 3 years later and I'm finally caught up and surpassed where this should be. Now it's easier to implement changes, fix issues and accommodate radical new ideas... but it was trying to say the least. I know that if I get hit by a bus tomorrow the company won't grind to a halt and that kind of security is something that any company can appreciate. I understand that this approach isn't for everyone, but in my experience it pays out big in the end. @@ !k -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page On 6/5/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So patch the problem and deal with it later? I didn't say it was ideal, but in a business situation when you have numerous, large legacy apps, and your choice is to spend a small amount of effort to do some integration, vs. multiple thousands of man hours recreating the wheel simply so everyone is using the same environment, idealism often takes a back seat. And who's best practices do you follow? Best practices aren't language-specific. You can institute practices that apply to everyone. And which company do you call when it breaks? Depends on what breaks. Since this is in-house developed software, it would be whomever wrote it who, one would presume, wouldn't be hard to find. Every example, though valid, is still an instance of the easy way instead of the right way... and that's fine if you're happy with that If easy is (literally) millions of dollars in developer time cheaper than right, easy quickly becomes right. But I'm not... It's nice that you have that luxury. Not everyone does. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280149 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
GoDaddy
I would like to add the following code to imageCFC: cfif server.hostingCompany eq godaddy cfthrow message=Bad Host detail=Sorry, your hosting provider sucks. ImageCFC doesn't work on GoDaddy servers. Wait for CF8 and use CFIMAGE, or get a hosting provider that supports createObject(). /cfif -- CFMBB - Coldfusion Message Boards, Version 1.21 Now Available! http://www.cfmbb.org ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280150 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: why might sessions end more quickly after changing to linux/B D?
Things to check: - The timeout value that's set on the server directly - The timeout value that you've set in your Application.cfm (if any) - This could also be related to network problems. Are you on a network where IP changes often? Or perhaps a wireless connection that was reset in the 5 minutes that you were away from your computer? - Are you using cookieless session tracking? (that can get tricky...) Hope this helps... Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ BlueDragon Alliance Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] stylo stylo wrote: You might also increase the session timeout I will, but the session timeout is restarted with each page load, right? so I don't think that's it. This hasn't helped. I'll be the admin section, leave the page for 5 minutes, then try to load a page and I'm kicked out. What could I possibly check? apache/centos/bluedragon/vps if that might affect something. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280152 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Out of curiosity, why is that a problem with cfhttp? Don't you think using cfhttp or any http client for that matter to perform what should essentially be a function call and handled either by a UDF or the language itself is a little bit of overkill? I guess I could always write a CFX tag in C++ or Delphi to achieve the same result but again, for the problem at hand, it seems like overkill. *BUT* As I write this, it occurs to me that if I were to write a C++ or Delphi CFX tag, I would be solving my particular real world problem in a way that is akin to the possibilities that Sean is showing us with the new capabilities that moving to Java 6 offers. Although the capabilities of Scorpio and their repercussions are much wider than the CFX interface provides for, the intent I believe isn't that different from CF 7 and below. ColdFusion has, since version 3 supported extending its capabilities by using alternative technologies like C++ and Delphi etc. When you consider this, the question then becomes, If there are reasons to write non-Java CFX tags then why wouldn't there be reasons to use the capabilities that Scorpio will offer us in the future? Paul ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280151 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
True, but if Adobe released a ColdFusion for .NET then you would have choice and granted if you couldn't use Windows (or don't) then it is out of the question! You eloquently cut out some parts of .NET v Java in my post,i never said they were the same as in identical my point is that if you write cfif/cfcomponent in either a ColdFusion for Java or ColdFusion for .NET the process to you is the same and in that way, since ColdFusion is a tag based languague you shouldn't need to care what gives you the result back. Just like you are not programming in Java when you develop ColdFusion now, you will not be developing in C#, VB whatever (though you could). Personally, I think a pure .NET version of ColdFusion will run faster on Windows due to the fact its components will be native whereas ColdFusion now is a myriad of components (ADO v .JDBC, .NET runtime v JRE) abeit doing an outstanding job. I am not sure what DB/OS you are running but I would say a large portion of us run upon Windows and use SQL server and it is these users who would benefit from native support for drivers etc within Windows. The only way I can see .NET limiting you is to limit you to Windows and not much else. You could leverage Java apps if you really wanted to just like CF8 allows you to interop with .NET now. What other limitations do you envisage? I ask this not provoke :-) but to forward a serious opinion to develop release a .NET version of ColdFusion, branded and approved as a .NET compliant language to allow for more native choice with ColdFusion. N This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jun 05 19:07:29 2007 Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: There is absolutely no basis in this, why wouldn't you touch it? Because I'm a firm believer in choice - and I find .NET restrictive and limiting. CFML upon .NET would be the same as running CFML upon Java False. .NET and Java are very different. Platform independence is one of the MANY ways that they are different. it would probably run faster as well. Presumption. Is it just a stupid anti-Microsoft stance? It is a pro-choice stance. I would say you are in the minority, certainly in the circles of technical fellows who understand and realise where .NET lies in the landscape.. You make it sound like I'm denying the existence of .NET. I'm fine with ...NET. If if helps you, then happy for you. I'm not denying that it can perform specific tasks. What I *AM* saying, (read this part carefully) is that it limits you in your choices once you invest in it. CFML, Java, PHP, and Ruby do not include this limitation, and also allow you to perform the same tasks that .NET does. So... why would I purposely chose to limit yourself when there are non-limiting alternatives available? I would be interested to see understand why it would have zero interest... It's simple really: I enjoy freedom. -Jordan ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280153 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Oh, I thought you were saying that you received an error when trying to cfhttp to a php page which returned a large number. You were just saying it seemed like overkill. I'm guessing 32-bit CF doesn't support numbers large enough for you to do the calculations directly in CF code? I guess this would be a case where there was something another language like PHP (on a 64-bit machine, I assume) could do and CF could NOT do. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page Out of curiosity, why is that a problem with cfhttp? Don't you think using cfhttp or any http client for that matter to perform what should essentially be a function call and handled either by a UDF or the language itself is a little bit of overkill? ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280154 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: GoDaddy
So I take it that cfinvoke doesn't work in this case? -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: GoDaddy I would like to add the following code to imageCFC: cfif server.hostingCompany eq godaddy cfthrow message=Bad Host detail=Sorry, your hosting provider sucks. ImageCFC doesn't work on GoDaddy servers. Wait for CF8 and use CFIMAGE, or get a hosting provider that supports createObject(). /cfif -- CFMBB - Coldfusion Message Boards, Version 1.21 Now Available! http://www.cfmbb.org ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280155 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GoDaddy
On 6/5/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I take it that cfinvoke doesn't work in this case? Nope, cfinvoke only lets you invoke components. not java objects. ImageCFC uses a whole slew of java objects and so createObject is absolutely essential. Rick ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280156 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOLVED? Re: Method=GET received as POST by CF
It could be that the problem is using the submit() method within JS. Glad if your problem is solved. My case is a bit different: I'm using INPUT TYPE=submit VALUE=... onClick=;return checkInput() And checkInput alwas returns explicitely true or false. However I just noticed that I have a semi-colon right before the return statement (fossil of a former first statement). This is equivalent of having a null statement, and who knows, it might be a source of confusion for IE7? I just removed it, and let's see what's going on... -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280158 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Ignoring Application.cfc or .cfm
Yep, all the way up. And to get it to ignore it, just add one in your own folder. Exactly, but if you just want this application.cfm to just do nothing, make sure it contains at least one space, because CF does not like 0 length files. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280159 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOLVED? Re: Method=GET received as POST by CF
My case is a bit different: I'm using INPUT TYPE=submit VALUE=... onClick=;return checkInput() And checkInput alwas returns explicitely true or false. That should work then. Curious to see if removing the semicolon helps - I wouldn't be surprised if that is confusing some browsers. -- Josh ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280160 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: GoDaddy
Well that sucks. I was planning on using that for an upcoming project with a client planning on hosting with GoDaddy. Hope they haven't already signed up with GoDaddy. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GoDaddy On 6/5/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I take it that cfinvoke doesn't work in this case? Nope, cfinvoke only lets you invoke components. not java objects. ImageCFC uses a whole slew of java objects and so createObject is absolutely essential. Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280161 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
CFMX memory usage under load : is this normal?
I've never actually paid much attention to CFMX's memory usage before, but I just started monitoring our memory, and I'm a little unsure whether what we're seeing is normal or not. Setup: CFMX6.1, linux ES4, 800MB Xmx. Server averages 30 templates/second. Cached queries set to 0 (same thing happens for different values of cached queries anyway). I'm noticing the same behavior on CF8 pub beta. Monitoring java.lang.Runtime.getRunTime()'s freeMemory() Here's a sample of our free memory output at 5 second intervals: 493mb 356mb 66mb 66mb 59mb 350mb 57mb Over the course of a minute, the free memory value is flying all over the place. It dives down to 50mb or so, and then I assume the GC cleans up and it's back up in the 350+s. Then it drops rapidly back to 50mb, and flies back up again. The app is not doing anything that I'd consider memory intensive. Lots of DB queries, but none are that large memory wise. 100 rows here, 2 rows there, but done many times each minute. There is no notable strain on the server (pages load fast, server load avg is low), but I'm wondering if this is symptomatic of a memory problem/leak somewhere, or if it's completely normal for a loaded server to be allocating and freeing memory at such a frantic pace. Thanks ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280162 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOLVED? Re: Method=GET received as POST by CF
Glad if your problem is solved. My case is a bit different: I'm using INPUT TYPE=submit VALUE=... onClick=;return checkInput() And checkInput alwas returns explicitely true or false. However I just noticed that I have a semi-colon right before the return statement (fossil of a former first statement). This is equivalent of having a null statement, and who knows, it might be a source of confusion for IE7? I just removed it, and let's see what's going on... I think you would be better served by using your form's onsubmit event handler to check input, instead of this. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Looking for opinions on menu functionality
lemme know what you guys think personally, I hate Flash menu so much that it does not make any difference the way they work ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page)
Than you might just be finding yourself in quite the mess. Is this CMS only supposed to support windows users? !k -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page) On 6/5/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would definitely prove to him that a classic ASP component can't compare to the modern stuff that's out. Also, unless it uses a DLL (crap), there's no reason that you could reverse engineer it to use it in a custom tag. It's actually a VBScript class actually a TON of different pages. Time is the reason that I can't reverse engineer the tool. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280157 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GoDaddy
Just for *hits'n'giggles I setup a CF godaddy account about a year ago. Even with removing the createObject() from the equation, I think godaddy is terrible! They have a sucky website, sucky control panel, sucky support, sucky everything. Except the price. Will ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280165 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Because I'm a firm believer in choice - and I find .NET restrictive and limiting. Is this solely because it requires Windows? If so, that's certainly a valid answer, but perhaps irrelevant to lots of people. What I *AM* saying, (read this part carefully) is that it limits you in your choices once you invest in it. CFML, Java, PHP, and Ruby do not include this limitation, and also allow you to perform the same tasks that .NET does. So... why would I purposely chose to limit yourself when there are non-limiting alternatives available? There are quite a few things that you can do with .NET that the other languages listed cannot, just as there are some things (like GD) that you can use from PHP. I submit to you that this list of things is pretty large, actually. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280166 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GoDaddy
Just for *hits'n'giggles I setup a CF godaddy account about a year ago. Even with removing the createObject() from the equation, I think godaddy is terrible! They have a sucky website, sucky control panel, sucky support, sucky everything. I concur. I have never seen such over-the-top upselling. You have to click through like 10 pages of extra service offers just to register a domain. No thanks, I do not want the turbocharged virus spam killer hosting package for an extra $2.95 a month. Not to mention their ridiculous ad campaign with the busty gal. Whoever runs that company must be a grade-A douchebag. -- Josh ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280167 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOLVED? Re: Method=GET received as POST by CF
I think you would be better served by using your form's onsubmit event handler to check input, instead of this. Not that easy, because I have several submit buttons, and they perform different checking depending on which one is clicked. And all buttons and functionalities are in a common editFooter.cfm, so I don't have to worry about them when I create a form. Anyway, an onClick event on a submit button returning true is not supposed to change the method from POST to GET is'nt it? No more than an onSubmit. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: GoDaddy
Funny-- I was just reading Sean Corfield's blog on GoDaddy hosting last night... http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/GoDaddy_and_ColdF usion_MX_7 The general consensus is that 1) Godaddy is very, very cheap. 2) You get what you pay for. The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. I wish there was a hosting company that would let you pick the features you want. I don't give a crap if I can have 7000 FTP accounts, 93 ASP plugins, and 8 million E-mail forwarders if I only get 100 megs of hard disk space. The real kicker for godaddy Windows hosting is that you get a program called GUIDMaker. Whoa-- think what kind of functionality that little puppy must have. I asked their sales what it was once and they had no clue. Go figure. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GoDaddy Just for *hits'n'giggles I setup a CF godaddy account about a year ago. Even with removing the createObject() from the equation, I think godaddy is terrible! They have a sucky website, sucky control panel, sucky support, sucky everything. Except the price. Will ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280169 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFMX memory usage under load : is this normal?
... but I'm wondering if this is symptomatic of a memory problem/leak somewhere ... No, as long as memory used doesn't increase over time. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280170 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: GoDaddy
The thing that bothers me with my client's site is that I have to click like 5 or 6 times to get to their control panel. And once I do so, I can't bookmark THAT page. I have to go through that rigmarole EVERY time I want to get in. Then it's like another 2 or 3 clicks to get to PHPMyAdmin. -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GoDaddy Just for *hits'n'giggles I setup a CF godaddy account about a year ago. Even with removing the createObject() from the equation, I think godaddy is terrible! They have a sucky website, sucky control panel, sucky support, sucky everything. Except the price. Will ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280171 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: GoDaddy
-Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page)
Than you might just be finding yourself in quite the mess. Is this CMS only supposed to support windows users? No, it's supposed to run on a Windows server. The editor is extremely cross-platoform (IE, NS, FF, Opera and Safari) friendly. H ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280173 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: GoDaddy
It may do Adobe well to offer ColdFusion to large hosting companies at either a substantial discount or free It would get the buzz out there and make the language more accessable. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280174 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: GoDaddy
We actually do set up special licenses and deals with hosting companies for just that reason, and we do try to make it as compelling for them as possible. But, the hosting companies need to hear demand from customers to make them want to pay attention. If you know of any that are interested, send them my way. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy It may do Adobe well to offer ColdFusion to large hosting companies at either a substantial discount or free It would get the buzz out there and make the language more accessable. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280178 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page)
Than the only suggestion I have is to contact the company and see if they have any solutions to offer you. Or you can attempt to rip the editor and get it to work with just the output... than integrate it as is. Sorry, !k -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using an ASP object in CF (was Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page) Than you might just be finding yourself in quite the mess. Is this CMS only supposed to support windows users? No, it's supposed to run on a Windows server. The editor is extremely cross-platoform (IE, NS, FF, Opera and Safari) friendly. H ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280179 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: GoDaddy
http://www.crystaltech.com/cfmx.aspx 25 domains at $16.95 -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 15:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280177 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
-Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2007 19:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page Oh, I thought you were saying that you received an error when trying to cfhttp to a php page which returned a large number. You were just saying it seemed like overkill. Indeed. I'm guessing 32-bit CF doesn't support numbers large enough for you to do the calculations directly in CF code? I guess this would be a case where there was something another language like PHP (on a 64-bit machine, I assume) could do and CF could NOT do. It's all to do with signed and unsigned integers and the fact the CF operates using signed integers whereas PHP uses unsigned integers. If CF supported unsigned math functions then a 32-bit JVM would be enough... Paul ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280180 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SOLVED? Re: Method=GET received as POST by CF
Not that easy, because I have several submit buttons, and they perform different checking depending on which one is clicked. And all buttons and functionalities are in a common editFooter.cfm, so I don't have to worry about them when I create a form. You should be able to capture the event and identify the source without any difficulty. Anyway, an onClick event on a submit button returning true is not supposed to change the method from POST to GET is'nt it? No more than an onSubmit. No, but it's a little ambiguous, since your event handler calls the submit method if I read the thread accurately. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
Paul, Oh, I thought you were saying that you received an error when trying to cfhttp to a php page which returned a large number. You were just saying it seemed like overkill. Indeed. I'm guessing 32-bit CF doesn't support numbers large enough for you to do the calculations directly in CF code? I guess this would be a case where there was something another language like PHP (on a 64-bit machine, I assume) could do and CF could NOT do. It's all to do with signed and unsigned integers and the fact the CF operates using signed integers whereas PHP uses unsigned integers. If CF supported unsigned math functions then a 32-bit JVM would be enough... Just remember that even though it's interpreted PHP code, it's still compiled to Java--so you may still have the same issue. -Dan ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280182 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: GoDaddy
I think that's the plan. At least from Ben's presentation in Nashville, he mentioned there would be significant discounts to hosting companies. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy It may do Adobe well to offer ColdFusion to large hosting companies at either a substantial discount or free It would get the buzz out there and make the language more accessable. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280176 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: GoDaddy
Just FYI. Gearhost allows up to 8 domains under one account, for $17.95 a month. It's more than $10 of course, but I like them a lot. -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280175 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GoDaddy
You could market ColdFusion better to raise demand :-) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Ben Forta To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jun 05 21:14:31 2007 Subject: RE: GoDaddy We actually do set up special licenses and deals with hosting companies for just that reason, and we do try to make it as compelling for them as possible. But, the hosting companies need to hear demand from customers to make them want to pay attention. If you know of any that are interested, send them my way. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy It may do Adobe well to offer ColdFusion to large hosting companies at either a substantial discount or free It would get the buzz out there and make the language more accessable. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOLVED? Re: Method=GET received as POST by CF
No, but it's a little ambiguous, since your event handler calls the submit method if I read the thread accurately. No, it doesn't. If the onClick event returns false, the click on the submit button is cancelled, then ther is no submit, if it returns true, the submit proceeds normally. I don't call submit(). For instance, I have forms to edit some items. Two submit buttons, one to confirm, this one calls the validation function, the other one to delete the item, and this one of course needs no validation. The purpose of this procedure is to force users to see what they want to delete before they delete it. The only problem is when a user press the Return key, which would normally trigger the submit without calling the validation function. But I had to inhibit the return key on any field except text areas anyway, because I have some users moron enough to press Return in text fields because they want to have several lines ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
cfhttp
Does CFHTTP show up as a browser type that could be blocked? I cannot download my Calvin and Hobbes comics anymore with the following. cfhttp method=GET url=http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/2007/ch070605.gif; path=#variables.path# file=calvin#day#.gif If I hit the URL: http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/2007/ch070605.gif I get the comic, but if I use CFHttp it fails. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Help getting rid of Squares in DB
Hi All, I've inherited a database which has loads of squares in the middle of text - i.e incorrectly encoded quotes, and other chars which bring out this type of wierdness when displayed. They are inconsistent as to what they are, but the majority are (or were) single quotes. Any tips on automating their removal (or replacement with single quotes) in a MySQL database? They are obviously 100's to 1000's of entries, so I'd REALLY rather avoid having to edit this manually (or indeed open every page they're on and resave)... Thanks ! T ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280184 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfhttp
Sure does use CFHTTP Header to change the HTTP user Agent CFHTTPPARAM TYPE=CGI NAME=HTTP_USER_AGENT VALUE=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070515 Firefox/2.0.0.4 That should make it look like a windows based Firefox session. -J.J. On 6/5/07, Chad Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does CFHTTP show up as a browser type that could be blocked? I cannot download my Calvin and Hobbes comics anymore with the following. cfhttp method=GET url= http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/2007/ch070605.gif; path=#variables.path# file=calvin#day#.gif If I hit the URL: http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/2007/ch070605.gif I get the comic, but if I use CFHttp it fails. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: cfhttp
Hmmm actually never mind. It works on one of my computers but not another so I need to dig into why one computer it works and the other it does not. Thanks anyways! -Original Message- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfhttp Does CFHTTP show up as a browser type that could be blocked? I cannot download my Calvin and Hobbes comics anymore with the following. cfhttp method=GET url=http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/2007/ch070605.gif; path=#variables.path# file=calvin#day#.gif If I hit the URL: http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/2007/ch070605.gif I get the comic, but if I use CFHttp it fails. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GoDaddy
According to Forta the cost in a bulk license is so small that there is no reason for hosting companies to even charge a premium. On 6/5/07, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may do Adobe well to offer ColdFusion to large hosting companies at either a substantial discount or free It would get the buzz out there and make the language more accessable. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GoDaddy
According to Forta the cost in a bulk license is so small that there is no reason for hosting companies to even charge a premium. except for any additional labor costs due to having to administer CF. If a hosting company has never offered CF before, there is some learning curve. I wouldn't be surprised if this alone stops many hosting companies from getting involved. They'd need at least one person on staff who's at least familiar with CF. Adobe could sweeten the deal by offering some sort of support package to the hosting companies for the first few months, while they are hammering out any configuration/admin issues. -- Josh ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Sort array of structs on column?
I have a report to run where I query a number of different tables. I need to sort the output by date, which means I need to consolidate the queries and then sort the whole. I don't believe I can use a union, so I thought I'd throw it all into an array of structs, which I'd sort afterwards. Is there an easy way to do something like this? I also thought about the possibility of building a new query instead of using an array, and then using a query of queries to do the sorting. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: A very unusual HTTP 500 Null Error
I was also receiving the very cryptic 500 NULL error; in circumstances very similar to the above. I ended up tracking this down to java.lang.String.URLDecode(), which throws a java.lang.IllegalArgumentException if a '%' character is not followed by a valid 2-digit hexadecimal number. So, for instance, if you're passing urlEncoded value of %F1 you're fine, but if you pass %G1 you get the 500 NULL error. What was happening on our end, was that there was a page using the JavaScript method escape(). The escape method fails to handle non-ASCII characters correctly. So if you're passing Unicode, or other fun characters via a form POST, you'll end up with weird strings like %G1. The fix was to use an alternative encoding method encodeURI(). HTH T Lux wrote: For what its worth, an application of mine just started receiving this same error. I just tracked down the customer machine that is causing the error and I'm asking the client to get ahold of that customer in an effort to figure out what all is going on. From the headers it seems that its IE 6. The only oddity I see in the useragent string is that the customer has InfoPath installed, which seems to be a MS product for dealing with forms in your browser (http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/infopath/FX100487661033.aspx). I suppose that could be a source of malformed requests. Beyond that, the request that we are dealing with is a timed XmlHTTPRequest Post of an xml string. Doesn't seem to cause problems anywhere else, just this one browser. Oh and for posterities sake, when looking at Ethereal, the cause of the 500 Error seems to be TCP Checksum Incorrect errors. So that makes me start thinking network issues between the client and then server. Thats all I have to go on so far. Hope this helps someone out. Judah ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Help getting rid of Squares in DB
you could run a query and copy in a smartquotes to sort by then update with normal quotes. Another BIG thank you to microcrap for those. Hi All, I've inherited a database which has loads of squares in the middle of text - i.e incorrectly encoded quotes, and other chars which bring out this type of wierdness when displayed. They are inconsistent as to what they are, but the majority are (or were) single quotes. Any tips on automating their removal (or replacement with single quotes) in a MySQL database? They are obviously 100's to 1000's of entries, so I'd REALLY rather avoid having to edit this manually (or indeed open every page they're on and resave)... Thanks ! T ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
ColdFusion, XML, tostring(), IE, and Microsoft.XMLDOM
I need some help with a weird error. We have a page which does the following: It generates a CF XML object. It then uses the tostring() function to write it into a javascript variable (jsstringformated of course) Once the page reaches the browser the string is parsed back into an XML document using var doc=new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLDOM); (if it is IE) Then the page continues merrily along doing client side things with this XML. The problem is this. The code works for EVERYONE but one person on our QA team who is testing. IE parses the XML without error (it appears) but the object it returns does have childNodes or anything else I would expect for that matter. Here is the weird thing. When I tostring() the XML document on the CF side it adds ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? to the beginning of the string. When I remove that tag from the xml BEFORE parsing it in JavaScript it works perfectly. Ok, in the time I have been typing this E-mail I just figured it out. I thought I would go ahead and post in case someone else ever needed this answer. I used COM Explorer http://www.4developers.com/com/index.htm to see what version of what dll is registered for Microsoft.XMLDOM. It was C:\winnt\system32\msxml3.dll which is version 8.7. My user's computer where it didn't work had a different version of the dll registered msxml.dll version 8.0.7. I registered the newer version and their IE began parsing XML properly. Sorry this turned out to be a bit off-topic. At first I thought maybe I was doing something wrong in CF when I used tostring to create the XML string. Turns out it was something more in the order of not having all their windows updates installed. If anyone is interested I can show you the JS which was breaking on her computer. P.S. I also found out that Microsoft.XMLDOM doesn't necessarily throw its errors. You have to reference parseError.errorCode to see if there were any parse errors. ~Brad ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Sort array of structs on column?
Is there an easy way to do something like this? I also thought about the possibility of building a new query instead of using an array, and then using a query of queries to do the sorting. Can you do something like left or inner join on the date? If all the tables have a date column, that would be a good starting point. Also, UNION is pretty flexible. By aliasing columns you can union almost anything. The more you can do in SQL the better, since it is set up to do joining, sorting and whatnot. It just gets more laborious if you have to start building structs/arrays/queries by hand. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Sort array of structs on column? I have a report to run where I query a number of different tables. I need to sort the output by date, which means I need to consolidate the queries and then sort the whole. I don't believe I can use a union, so I thought I'd throw it all into an array of structs, which I'd sort afterwards. Is there an easy way to do something like this? I also thought about the possibility of building a new query instead of using an array, and then using a query of queries to do the sorting. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GoDaddy
On 6/5/07, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Forta the cost in a bulk license is so small that there is no reason for hosting companies to even charge a premium. Yes, there absolutely is. You can pretty easily put 500 php web sites on a single box without too much trouble. You can't put 500 CF sites on a single box though. Plain and simple, the power we are afforded by Coldfusion prevents a hosting company from realistically putting any more than a fraction of the site that they can put on a standard php/html type server. Your average host that supports php gets a lot of static web sites. Your average host that supports CF probably gets a LOT more database intensive websites. The cost of hosting CF web sites is not necessarly related to the cost of the CF license. Sure, you fork out maybe $3000/year, or $250/month for a CF enterprise license. If you put 100 sites on a server, that's $2.50/month for the cost of the CF license. Really though, a server with 100 cf-powered web sites? I'm spoiled by my dedicated server with 15 web sites on it I guess =) Rick ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GoDaddy
We run over 300 sites on a single Sun SPARC and we are still coping with the load after some JVM tuning (it runs much better than some hosts I've been with, for example). Having said that, we are expanding this to plan for growth and provide high availability. On 6/6/07, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/5/07, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Forta the cost in a bulk license is so small that there is no reason for hosting companies to even charge a premium. Yes, there absolutely is. You can pretty easily put 500 php web sites on a single box without too much trouble. You can't put 500 CF sites on a single box though. Plain and simple, the power we are afforded by Coldfusion prevents a hosting company from realistically putting any more than a fraction of the site that they can put on a standard php/html type server. Your average host that supports php gets a lot of static web sites. Your average host that supports CF probably gets a LOT more database intensive websites. The cost of hosting CF web sites is not necessarly related to the cost of the CF license. Sure, you fork out maybe $3000/year, or $250/month for a CF enterprise license. If you put 100 sites on a server, that's $2.50/month for the cost of the CF license. Really though, a server with 100 cf-powered web sites? I'm spoiled by my dedicated server with 15 web sites on it I guess =) -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFMX memory usage under load : is this normal?
Yes this is normal. Our busy SPARC server has a 2.5 GB JVM and frees over 600MB when it does a GC. It does this at roughly 30 second intervals or so, like your figures show. On 6/6/07, Terry Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never actually paid much attention to CFMX's memory usage before, but I just started monitoring our memory, and I'm a little unsure whether what we're seeing is normal or not. Setup: CFMX6.1, linux ES4, 800MB Xmx. Server averages 30 templates/second. Cached queries set to 0 (same thing happens for different values of cached queries anyway). I'm noticing the same behavior on CF8 pub beta. Monitoring java.lang.Runtime.getRunTime()'s freeMemory() Here's a sample of our free memory output at 5 second intervals: 493mb 356mb 66mb 66mb 59mb 350mb 57mb Over the course of a minute, the free memory value is flying all over the place. It dives down to 50mb or so, and then I assume the GC cleans up and it's back up in the 350+s. Then it drops rapidly back to 50mb, and flies back up again. The app is not doing anything that I'd consider memory intensive. Lots of DB queries, but none are that large memory wise. 100 rows here, 2 rows there, but done many times each minute. There is no notable strain on the server (pages load fast, server load avg is low), but I'm wondering if this is symptomatic of a memory problem/leak somewhere, or if it's completely normal for a loaded server to be allocating and freeing memory at such a frantic pace. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GoDaddy
Are you using CrystalTech, or is anyone else on the list? I'm curious about performance/reliability. Currently I'm leasing dedicated servers, which is pretty godawful expensive for the number of sites I'm maintaining. I run about 12 sites, all of which use the same code (the particular website is determined by the host header name). I've considered moving the whole thing to something less expensive, but speed is a concern. On 6/5/07 4:13 PM, Bader, Terrence C CTR MARMC, 231 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.crystaltech.com/cfmx.aspx 25 domains at $16.95 -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 15:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GoDaddy -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: RE: GoDaddy The only reason I keep considering godaddy is because I want unlimited (or at LEAST 5 or more) separate domains for less than 10 dollars and that just doesn't seems to exist outside of godaddy. There's lots of hosts that do PHP et al for that, but few if any CF hosts due to the licensing costs of CF itself. I've been meaning to try installing CF on Dreamhosts as a CGI to see if it'd work, it's just far down my todo list. Damien McKenna Web Developer The LIMU Company ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFMX memory usage under load : is this normal?
Thanks. I guess the developer in me isn't quite comfortable with so much temporary object creation and destruction. CFMX pools db connections and threads; why not pool query objects, instead of instantiating new ones on each request? Looks like the JRE creates and destroys new query objects for every single request that touches queries, creating lots of memory garbage. Easy to show this by performing queries and printing free allocated mem after each. I would think that a more efficient method would be to have a query object pool that gets allocated once and used by threads on demand (you'd have to bound query result size). That way you could reuse the same query objects and take pressure off the GC. Surely your application doesn't really need to temporarily allocate and free 600MB of memory every 30 seconds? Or is this object-creation-happy use of memory cleaned up by the GC actually more efficient than reuse would? The current usage of memory just seems wrong to me. Yes this is normal. Our busy SPARC server has a 2.5 GB JVM and frees over 600MB when it does a GC. It does this at roughly 30 second intervals or so, like your figures show. On 6/6/07, Terry Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: GoDaddy
On 6/5/07, Charles Sheehan-Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using CrystalTech, or is anyone else on the list? I'm curious about I used crystaltech once. I installed a file manager on my shared hosting account (like CFFM, but a long time ago). I pointed it to C:\ as the root folder. That was fun. After discovering that it worked just fine, I cancelled my account. Rick ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: GoDaddy
Yeah, I haven't done a site that has gone on shared hosting in like... hmm 3 years maybe(on Godaddy no less). Most of my apps are on a dedicated box minimum so yeah I am not too worried about shared hosting :-) I was just repeating what Forta said at the Nashville Scorpio stop. -J.J. On 6/5/07, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/5/07, J.J. Merrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Forta the cost in a bulk license is so small that there is no reason for hosting companies to even charge a premium. Yes, there absolutely is. You can pretty easily put 500 php web sites on a single box without too much trouble. You can't put 500 CF sites on a single box though. Plain and simple, the power we are afforded by Coldfusion prevents a hosting company from realistically putting any more than a fraction of the site that they can put on a standard php/html type server. Your average host that supports php gets a lot of static web sites. Your average host that supports CF probably gets a LOT more database intensive websites. The cost of hosting CF web sites is not necessarly related to the cost of the CF license. Sure, you fork out maybe $3000/year, or $250/month for a CF enterprise license. If you put 100 sites on a server, that's $2.50/month for the cost of the CF license. Really though, a server with 100 cf-powered web sites? I'm spoiled by my dedicated server with 15 web sites on it I guess =) Rick ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
On 6/5/07, Doug Bezona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. This brings us back to the question... what makes this a good idea? Why overly complicate something? While it may not be common, there are a lot of large organizations out there with multiple applications in multiple languages. Having a tool that can integrate these applications can be very powerful. Getting a couple of developers up to speed on CF to write some glue code to get, say a .NET app and a PHP app talking to one another may make more sense than completely porting applications to another language. This isn't just an abstract scenario - this is a potential solution to a real world situation I was in a year or so ago - two large (50+) development teams combined - one team was .NET, one was Java, and they wanted to create a system that could leverage apps from both teams. The solution, at the time, was to choose .NET as the standard, and port all of the Java code. Ick. Now with CF8's .NET support, one or two developers could simply have created the bridge app, and the rest of the developers could have continued moving forward with either Java or .NET or both. Though one could argue that today, the right solution would be to put web service (SOAP, REST, whatever) around the various services produced by each group in a SOA architecture. In that scenario, ColdFusion is not really needed to provide the bridge. Sharing objects directly is useful in some situations; sharing data though IMHO seems the more necessary integration challenge. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
The manual says PHP doesn't support unsigned integers either... http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.types.integer.php On 6/6/07, Paul Vernon wrote: It's all to do with signed and unsigned integers and the fact the CF operates using signed integers whereas PHP uses unsigned integers. If CF supported unsigned math functions then a 32-bit JVM would be enough... -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
