Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what shoud it be set to and are there any security or performance
 implicatoins for a shared hosting operatoin ?

My understanding is that most shared hosts will use this new setting
to disable access to Java objects to improve security. Mark Mandel has
already had to modify Transfer to work around this and I've had to
modify Fusebox for similar reasons. It's a pain in the ass but I can
understand both why Adobe have added the feature and why hosting
companies would use it...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
 an internal java tag?

I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
setting.

 But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
 Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.

I think that was a miscommunication...
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RE: New 64-bit Dev Server

2007-10-24 Thread Adrian Lynch
Thanks all.

The reason for loading all this on one box is cost at the moment. It will be
a half decent spec and there will be around 5 initial users moving up to
10-15 over the next six months.

Will the fact that it's 64-bit Windows throw up any problems?

The risks about patches breaking things rings true as I know one sys-admin
who had a similar set-up and didn't patch SQL Server because it caused
problems with Exchange (or the other way around).

Adrian

 I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and
 SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a
 requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box.

 Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with
 this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the
 various software but any other input would be great.

 Thanks.

 --
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Mike Kear
Well I am really pissed off to learn that i might not be able to use
CFDUMP.   That's one of the best debugging tools there is, and to not
have it will make a great many things more difficult.

Yes, you have to do most of your development on a dev machine, but
after uploading your app to production you have to test it and if
something goes wrong on the production machine   not to have CFDUMP
would be a real pain.

I guess I'm goign to have to do some negotiation with the systems guys
at hostmysite.

So how do i verify that coldspring is in fact working and isnt just an
absense of error messages? (not the same thing)

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month


On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
  an internal java tag?

 I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
 work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
 setting.

  But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
  Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.

 I think that was a miscommunication...
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.

cfdump works fine with the setting of  Disable access to internal
ColdFusion Java components.

So that is not Mikes problem...


On 10/24/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I am really pissed off to learn that i might not be able to use
 CFDUMP.   That's one of the best debugging tools there is, and to not
 have it will make a great many things more difficult.

 Yes, you have to do most of your development on a dev machine, but
 after uploading your app to production you have to test it and if
 something goes wrong on the production machine   not to have CFDUMP
 would be a real pain.

 I guess I'm goign to have to do some negotiation with the systems guys
 at hostmysite.

 So how do i verify that coldspring is in fact working and isnt just an
 absense of error messages? (not the same thing)

 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
 AFP Webworks
 http://afpwebworks.com
 ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month


 On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
   an internal java tag?
 
  I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
  work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
  setting.
 
   But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
   Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.
 
  I think that was a miscommunication...
  --
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Re: New 64-bit Dev Server

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Coldfusion will not install on a 64bit machine, it is not supported.


On 10/24/07, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks all.

 The reason for loading all this on one box is cost at the moment. It will be
 a half decent spec and there will be around 5 initial users moving up to
 10-15 over the next six months.

 Will the fact that it's 64-bit Windows throw up any problems?

 The risks about patches breaking things rings true as I know one sys-admin
 who had a similar set-up and didn't patch SQL Server because it caused
 problems with Exchange (or the other way around).

 Adrian

  I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and
  SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a
  requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box.
 
  Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with
  this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the
  various software but any other input would be great.
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Mandel
On a side note -

This is one of the reasons why I suggested to you Mike to simply
upload your App onto the hosting server, rather than trying to test is
piecemeal.

If the whole application is uploaded, you can test and fix issues that
are relevant *to your application*, and not spend several days trying
to track down an issue that really doesn't stop your application from
running.

This is just my opinion however ;o) your mileage may vary.

Mark



On 10/24/07, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!

 Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to
 ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you
 can't use cfdump on many things.

 On some things you can, and on other things you can't.

 The reason is this - by turning this setting on there is a security
 policy that goes into effect that restricts external access to
 anything that is coldfusion.* - which includes trying to access and /
 or interogate any class or classpath that uses that space.

 If you do a lot of CF/Java integration, you will quickly notice that
 you can't get to the CF classPath, if you want it, and trying to call
 .getClass() (often through reflection) on CF objects causes the error
 that you just saw.

 I would expect that CFDUMP does call getClass / does some sort of java
 meta data introspection on the objects it is attempting to dump -
 which in turn throws this error, as it won't be allowed.

 This setting - while essential for Shared Hosts, is a pretty damn big
 sword that cuts through many things, including aspects of cfdump,
 access to CFCProxy and some other bits and pieces that I can't think
 of right now.

 I think in the coming months, we're going to hit various pieces of
 functionality that will be broken on shared servers because of this
 setting.

 Mark

 On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
   an internal java tag?
 
  I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
  work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
  setting.
 
   But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
   Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.
 
  I think that was a miscommunication...
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  An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
 
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Mark Mandel
I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!

Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to
ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you
can't use cfdump on many things.

On some things you can, and on other things you can't.

The reason is this - by turning this setting on there is a security
policy that goes into effect that restricts external access to
anything that is coldfusion.* - which includes trying to access and /
or interogate any class or classpath that uses that space.

If you do a lot of CF/Java integration, you will quickly notice that
you can't get to the CF classPath, if you want it, and trying to call
..getClass() (often through reflection) on CF objects causes the error
that you just saw.

I would expect that CFDUMP does call getClass / does some sort of java
meta data introspection on the objects it is attempting to dump -
which in turn throws this error, as it won't be allowed.

This setting - while essential for Shared Hosts, is a pretty damn big
sword that cuts through many things, including aspects of cfdump,
access to CFCProxy and some other bits and pieces that I can't think
of right now.

I think in the coming months, we're going to hit various pieces of
functionality that will be broken on shared servers because of this
setting.

Mark

On 10/24/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/23/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  However that does mystify me though, cfdump I would not have taken as
  an internal java tag?

 I think this is simply an oversight by the CF team - cfdump does not
 work properly when you turn Java object access off with this new
 setting.

  But what doed also worry me is that the file cfdump.cfm is missing as
  Mike also stated earlier by the hosting provider.

 I think that was a miscommunication...
 --
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 An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

 If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
 -- Margaret Atwood

 

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Working with CFGRID

2007-10-24 Thread Anthony Doherty
i have created a cfgrid formatted to HTML i have also added the href=page.cfm 
hrefkey=ID to the column as well.  The grid displays ok but when the rows are 
empty it shows a - in the blank rows were the data would be linked to the 
different page.

is there a way to only hyperlink the rows with data in them so that the grid 
doesnt look as bad.

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Re: Working with CFGRID

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Yes there is.

It is called custom rendering, and Ray Camdan has a tutorial on his
blog that will help you with that.


On 10/24/07, Anthony Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i have created a cfgrid formatted to HTML i have also added the 
 href=page.cfm hrefkey=ID to the column as well.  The grid displays ok but 
 when the rows are empty it shows a - in the blank rows were the data would 
 be linked to the different page.

 is there a way to only hyperlink the rows with data in them so that the grid 
 doesnt look as bad.

 Thanks

 

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Re: fixing outofmemoryerror: java heap space

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
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 java heap space.  I have just set up this server-- so I am hoping there is
 some value I can tweak that will allow this page to run... it is vitally
 important to the website that it works... does anybody know what I could
 do?  Thanks!

Well, you can adjust the Java arguments CF uses, but it's probably a much 
better idea to find out why your app is so memoray intensive and fix that.

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Re: load balancing/failover and CF

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
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RE: cfreport question

2007-10-24 Thread Luke Fromhold
Thanks for the suggestion Rob. Getting cfreport to save the report to a
file, then calling it in the cfwindow is still producing the gibberish.
Running the cfreport directly in the browser works great and so does calling
the saved pdf though.  So I thought remove the cfreport component all
together and just try opening some other pdf in the cfwindow.. same problem.


I'm thinking this is heading towards the conclusion that the cfwindow can't
open pdf or flash types?  But can anyone give this a try and confirm/deny
that this is the case? It really would be the perfect solution for what I'm
after.

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From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfreport question

Luke,

do you have the filename attribute set for your cfreport tag? If this isn't
set it basically outputs the code for a PDF file into HTML, making well
gobbledegook...

Try setting a filename and then your overwrite attributes for the cfreport
tag.

I have the following:

cfwindow 
  closable=true 
  draggable=true  
  name=Test 
  modal=false 
  initshow=true 
  height=350 
  width=325 
  title=Test 
  x=600 
  y=150
   cfreport format=pdf 
 filename=test.pdf 
 overwrite=yes
 template=reports/newcoldfusionreport.cfr
cfreportparam name=name value=1
   /cfreport
/cfwindow

And it generated a PDF that I could find on my local machine and if I wanted
to code in reference to it, I could.

HTH,

Rob 



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Re: cfreport question

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
I suppose you didn't try to load a src file with the extension .cfm
and use that template to set the content type to pdf with cfcontent
and load the pdf that way?

I have seen it happen from time to time with the report displaying
giberish and that has been my solution with cached content.


On 10/24/07, Luke Fromhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestion Rob. Getting cfreport to save the report to a
 file, then calling it in the cfwindow is still producing the gibberish.
 Running the cfreport directly in the browser works great and so does calling
 the saved pdf though.  So I thought remove the cfreport component all
 together and just try opening some other pdf in the cfwindow.. same problem.


 I'm thinking this is heading towards the conclusion that the cfwindow can't
 open pdf or flash types?  But can anyone give this a try and confirm/deny
 that this is the case? It really would be the perfect solution for what I'm
 after.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:07 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: cfreport question

 Luke,

 do you have the filename attribute set for your cfreport tag? If this isn't
 set it basically outputs the code for a PDF file into HTML, making well
 gobbledegook...

 Try setting a filename and then your overwrite attributes for the cfreport
 tag.

 I have the following:

 cfwindow
   closable=true
   draggable=true
   name=Test
   modal=false
   initshow=true
   height=350
   width=325
   title=Test
   x=600
   y=150
cfreport format=pdf
  filename=test.pdf
  overwrite=yes
  template=reports/newcoldfusionreport.cfr
 cfreportparam name=name value=1
/cfreport
 /cfwindow

 And it generated a PDF that I could find on my local machine and if I wanted
 to code in reference to it, I could.

 HTH,

 Rob



 

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RE: cfreport question

2007-10-24 Thread Luke Fromhold
Yeah that's the way I was attempting originally. I also gave saving the
report to a variable a go (using the 'name' attrb of cfreport) and then
calling that variable via cfcontent too. Further, I've tried using cfreport
to save the report to a pdf on the hdd, then using filename and cfcontent to
display it.  All result in the same.  (and same tests with flashpaper too.)
When I put the url into the browser directly, they display great. Putting
that url into 'source' attrb of cfwindow shows the junk.  Using Firebug and
watching the call when cfwindow opens, I believe I am setting the content
type correctly.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 6:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfreport question

I suppose you didn't try to load a src file with the extension .cfm
and use that template to set the content type to pdf with cfcontent
and load the pdf that way?

I have seen it happen from time to time with the report displaying
giberish and that has been my solution with cached content.


On 10/24/07, Luke Fromhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestion Rob. Getting cfreport to save the report to a
 file, then calling it in the cfwindow is still producing the gibberish.
 Running the cfreport directly in the browser works great and so does
calling
 the saved pdf though.  So I thought remove the cfreport component all
 together and just try opening some other pdf in the cfwindow.. same
problem.


 I'm thinking this is heading towards the conclusion that the cfwindow
can't
 open pdf or flash types?  But can anyone give this a try and confirm/deny
 that this is the case? It really would be the perfect solution for what
I'm
 after.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:07 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: cfreport question

 Luke,

 do you have the filename attribute set for your cfreport tag? If this
isn't
 set it basically outputs the code for a PDF file into HTML, making well
 gobbledegook...

 Try setting a filename and then your overwrite attributes for the cfreport
 tag.

 I have the following:

 cfwindow
   closable=true
   draggable=true
   name=Test
   modal=false
   initshow=true
   height=350
   width=325
   title=Test
   x=600
   y=150
cfreport format=pdf
  filename=test.pdf
  overwrite=yes
  template=reports/newcoldfusionreport.cfr
 cfreportparam name=name value=1
/cfreport
 /cfwindow

 And it generated a PDF that I could find on my local machine and if I
wanted
 to code in reference to it, I could.

 HTH,

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Re: Which query would be better?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay.  Except Oracle != MySQL 5.  MySQL 5 was what was specified in the
 original, forgive the pun, query.

Heh.
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does the presence of the cfif statement inside the cfquery block negate
 all the performance benefits I would have otherwise gained from using
 cfqueryparam? 

You have to remember cfqp doesn't just buy you performance, but security and 
robustness too.
Any tiny, tiny, performance hit is unlikely to out weigh that.

 If so, I would guess this is a common issue people run 
 into.  Is there a best practice for handling this kind of situation?

Use cfqp. Always use cfqp. 

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RE: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Yep,

I agree with Tom, _always_ use it. If you haven't done so already, do some
research on 'SQL Injection Attacks' which you are vulnerable too when not
using cfqueryparam ... You'll be having nightmares and panic attacks for
days, until you wrap all your dynamic SQL in cfqueryparam.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 October 2007 10:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does the presence of the cfif statement inside the cfquery block negate
 all the performance benefits I would have otherwise gained from using
 cfqueryparam? 

You have to remember cfqp doesn't just buy you performance, but security and

robustness too.
Any tiny, tiny, performance hit is unlikely to out weigh that.

 If so, I would guess this is a common issue people run 
 into.  Is there a best practice for handling this kind of situation?

Use cfqp. Always use cfqp. 

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RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Dale Fraser
Hey Tom,

Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes problems.
I guess im the only one.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://learncf.com

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Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 7:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
 was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and
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 line looks perfectly valid. You have your site down for a day tracking
down
 this issue.

Dude, if you have people making code changes on the live server without
asking 
or informing the whole dev team, you have bigger problems.

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes
 problems. I guess im the only one.

Oh no, it does happen to everyone :-)
But if we change something, we'd check it, so we'd know that the cfdump we 
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RE: New 64-bit Dev Server

2007-10-24 Thread Peterson, Chris
http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/2/6/Connecting-ColdFusion-MX-7-
To-64bit-IIS-6

It *will* install and evidently run fine, but you are right that it wont
be 'supported' by Adobe. 

Chris Peterson
Gainey IT
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New 64-bit Dev Server

Coldfusion will not install on a 64bit machine, it is not supported.


On 10/24/07, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks all.

 The reason for loading all this on one box is cost at the moment. It
will be
 a half decent spec and there will be around 5 initial users moving up
to
 10-15 over the next six months.

 Will the fact that it's 64-bit Windows throw up any problems?

 The risks about patches breaking things rings true as I know one
sys-admin
 who had a similar set-up and didn't patch SQL Server because it caused
 problems with Exchange (or the other way around).

 Adrian

  I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6
and
  SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's
a
  requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box.
 
  Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems
with
  this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for
the
  various software but any other input would be great.
 
  Thanks.
 
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RE: get the value of the drop down and pass it to the cfquery

2007-10-24 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
cfif isdefined('form.ask')
cfset session.myVar = form.mySelect /
cfoutput#session.myVar#/cfoutput
/cfif

cfoutput
form action=#cgi.script_name# method=post
Questions to ask on CF-Talk: 
 select name=mySelect
  option value=howHow?/option
  option value=whoWho?/option
  option value=whatWhat?/option
  option value=whereWhere?/option
  option value=whenWhen?/option
  option value=Where can I get the CFWACK?Where can I get the
CFWACK/option
 /select
input type=submit name=ask value=Ask /
/form
/cfoutput

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From: erik tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: get the value of the drop down and pass it to the cfquery

 What do you have the submit button doing?  Does it actually submit to
 
 the server, or just forward to the next tab?
 
 For CF to process information, you have to make a server trip of some
 
 kind.
 
 If you are making the server trip, but not seeing the information 
 passed, what are you naming your dropdown, and how are you referencing
 
 it in the query?
 
 --Ben Doom
 
The button supposed to submit so I can set the session variable to the next
tab 
 erik tom wrote:
  I need to be able get the value from the drop down and pass ethis
 value to cfquery function which located on the second tab of the form. 
 Once i selected the drop down item i clicked on the submit button and 
 going to the second tab but nothing getting passed to the query.
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RE: TinyUrl's?

2007-10-24 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
I second that. Very easy to build. Then you can just have URLs like
http://mysite.com/urls/#uniqueID#

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Subject: Re: TinyUrl's?

You could make you own. It's not a complicated process. You enter a url into
a DB, give it a unique identifier, which can be anything you want it to be
(int, UUID, some complex schema you design). Then when someone requests that
unique identifier, you re-direct them to that URL in your DB.

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RE: What can PHP do that CF can't?

2007-10-24 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
and a laggard in every bunch ;)~

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-Original Message-
From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What can PHP do that CF can't?

There is a wise-guy in every bunch ;)~

 I have much more important things to complain about than something 
 that
may be off topic in a community.  

Apparently.

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Re: Working with CFGRID

2007-10-24 Thread Anthony Doherty
thanks for that andrew but that allows me to format the data within the grid 
into different formats from the blog that i found 
(http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/8/20/Custom-grid-renderers-with-CFGRID)
 maybe im using the wrong blog


 Yes there is.
 
 It is called custom rendering, and Ray Camdan has a tutorial on his
 blog that will help you with that.
 
 
 On 10/24/07, Anthony Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i have created a cfgrid formatted to HTML i have also added the 
 href=page.cfm hrefkey=ID to the column as well.  The grid displays 
 ok but when the rows are empty it shows a - in the blank rows were 
 the data would be linked to the different page.
 
  is there a way to only hyperlink the rows with data in them so that 
 the grid doesnt look as bad.
 
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Re: Working with CFGRID

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
No, you are using the right blog.

The beauty with custom rendering is that you can check the value
before displaying and then decide what to do. So in your case you can
do something that decides to check that the data has something in it
and render it or display nothing.

I think you should look at this custom rendering just a little closer.



On 10/24/07, Anthony Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks for that andrew but that allows me to format the data within the grid 
 into different formats from the blog that i found 
 (http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/8/20/Custom-grid-renderers-with-CFGRID)
  maybe im using the wrong blog


  Yes there is.
 
  It is called custom rendering, and Ray Camdan has a tutorial on his
  blog that will help you with that.
 
 
  On 10/24/07, Anthony Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   i have created a cfgrid formatted to HTML i have also added the
  href=page.cfm hrefkey=ID to the column as well.  The grid displays
  ok but when the rows are empty it shows a - in the blank rows were
  the data would be linked to the different page.
  
   is there a way to only hyperlink the rows with data in them so that
  the grid doesnt look as bad.
  
   Thanks
  
  


 

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Max Varchar Length

2007-10-24 Thread Richard White
HI,

Just wondering if anyone works with mysql and can help us understand this 
little issue.

we understood that the maximum length for a varchar is 255. however we read 
somewhere that since mysql version 5.0.3 the varchar maximum length is 767.

We have just been testing this theory and dont know why but the database is 
allowing us to alter a columns data type to varchar(5), if we set it to 
varchar(65535) it tells us it is too big and that we need to include a text 
data type instead. 

This is of course what we expected but we expected this error to occur way 
before we was allowed to insert varchar(5) and would have expected it on 
either varchar(256) or varchar(768) depending on the version we have

Hope this makes sense and would really appreciate any help with understanding 
this and how to best use the text and varchar data types

thanks 

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Re: Max Varchar Length

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 we understood that the maximum length for a varchar is 255. however we read
 somewhere that since mysql version 5.0.3 the varchar maximum length is 767.

Where did you read that ? Not in the manual, I guess:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/char.html
The length can be specified as a value from 0 to 255 before MySQL 5.0.3, and 
0 to 65,535 in 5.0.3 and later versions. 

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Re: Max Varchar Length

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Donovan
Richard White wrote:
 HI,
 
 Just wondering if anyone works with mysql and can help us understand this 
 little issue.
 
 we understood that the maximum length for a varchar is 255. however we read 
 somewhere that since mysql version 5.0.3 the varchar maximum length is 767.
 
 We have just been testing this theory and dont know why but the database is 
 allowing us to alter a columns data type to varchar(5), if we set it to 
 varchar(65535) it tells us it is too big and that we need to include a text 
 data type instead. 
 
 This is of course what we expected but we expected this error to occur way 
 before we was allowed to insert varchar(5) and would have expected it on 
 either varchar(256) or varchar(768) depending on the version we have
 
 Hope this makes sense and would really appreciate any help with understanding 
 this and how to best use the text and varchar data types

The VARCHAR maximum is 65535 - but it is subject to a limit on the size of 
entire row which is also 
65535 bytes - so you will seldom be able to use the VARCHAR maximum size of 
65535 unless you only 
have a single column.

See:  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/char.html

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RE: Max Varchar Length

2007-10-24 Thread Andy Matthews
I believe in newer versions of MySQL, there is only varchar and it can range
from 1 to the max length which I believe is 65534. LargeText is for 65535 up
to around 10 or 15 million characters.

-Original Message-
From: Richard White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Max Varchar Length

HI,

Just wondering if anyone works with mysql and can help us understand this
little issue.

we understood that the maximum length for a varchar is 255. however we read
somewhere that since mysql version 5.0.3 the varchar maximum length is 767.

We have just been testing this theory and dont know why but the database is
allowing us to alter a columns data type to varchar(5), if we set it to
varchar(65535) it tells us it is too big and that we need to include a text
data type instead. 

This is of course what we expected but we expected this error to occur way
before we was allowed to insert varchar(5) and would have expected it on
either varchar(256) or varchar(768) depending on the version we have

Hope this makes sense and would really appreciate any help with
understanding this and how to best use the text and varchar data types

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SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Doom
I'm about to invest in one of these, and I'm looking for advice and/or 
practical experience.  We have several applications running, and we're 
trying to hunt down the source of site slowdowns.  Is there an 
overriding reason to pick one over the other?

I'm currently leaning toward FusionReactor -- it seems cleaner and 
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extra money?

For reference, I'm running CF8 Standard on Win2k3 R2.

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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
On 10/24/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok,

 I'm not going to start a flame war.

 I said this is the reason that I don't use third party frameworks, not
 that
 you shouldn't.

 As for the UI framework I released open source, I wouldn't use it either
 if
 I hadn't written it.

 As for my 3 month after launch statement, this could happen, if that dump
 was added in by someone unknowing and you didn't know what or where and
 the
 line looks perfectly valid. You have your site down for a day tracking
 down
 this issue.


The same way you would if anything else changed that you didn't know about
and it broke the app. This argument is meaningless.

Further, what is the alternative? Write something yourself, that only you
and a small group of people have looked at, and use that? Instead of
something that has been out for years and has had literally thousands of
eyes on it? You've got to be kidding.

Again, this problem had *nothing* to do with ColdSpring. It was a problem in
another part of Mike's code. And even then, if you go look back at the error
message, it tells you exactly where the error is happening. I don't have
access to his code so my first instinct was that it was a path issue on the
shared server. But Mike (wags finger at him) should have looked at this
cfdump tag first thing.

I also don't want to start a flame war, so I'm fine letting this die here. I
just want to be sure everyone else reading this is fully aware of the
situation and that, despite your opinion, ColdSpring kicks ass (which is my
opinion, and the opinion of a ton of others).


Regards
 Dale Fraser

 http://learncf.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

 AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment

 I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 

 so whats the matter with the line
 cfdump var=#BeanFactory# label=Beanfactory - reset line 34
 then??

 can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??

 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
 AFP Webworks
 http://afpwebworks.com
 ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month




 On 10/24/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for your interest Sean,  i feel a lot better now you and Brian
  are involved.
 
  on line 47 is the line i'm using to check it's been creating a bean
  correctly.  it says
 
  cfdump var=#BeanFactory# label=Beanfactory - reset line 34
 
  But i get the error even if the only bit of code on the page is the
  one kicking off the coldspring
 
  cfset BeanFactory =
  createObject(component,coldspring.beans.DefaultXmlBeanFactory)/
 
 
  If you like i can cut everything off the page except that line, and
  put it back up and let you see for yourself.
 
 
  Cheers
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
Agreed, especially if the same dump works fine locally. In that case it has
to be some configuration issue on the server (you might try dumping various
other things to see if you can find a pattern in what will dump and what
won't).

On 10/24/07, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This might get us back to the internal Java method setting I was talking
 about.

 On 10/24/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  AH!!! Slaps the forehead moment
 
  I removed the CFDUMP line and the error went away 
 
  so whats the matter with the line
  cfdump var=#BeanFactory# label=Beanfactory - reset line 34
   then??
 
  can't CF8 dump out a component like CF7??
 
  Cheers
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  Windsor, NSW, Australia
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
If you mean you put code in production, then months later someone changes
something without telling anyone else, and it breaks something? And then you
try to say that the fault lies with anyone except the person who made the
change and didn't tell anyone? Yes, I'd say you're the only one.

Totally unrelated Dale, I love the learncf.com site. Good job there. (Yes,
I'm bipolar).

On 10/24/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Tom,

 Yep we occasionally have code that goes onto production and causes
 problems.
 I guess im the only one.

 Regards
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Re: TinyUrl's?

2007-10-24 Thread Larry Lyons
Does anyone know of any tiny url like services either in CF, or that CF can
integrate with?
I have a requirement to create lots of tiny url's programatically.

Neil

There's one listed at cfczone.org:
 Author: Critter Gewlas
Date Released: 03/01/2004
Last Updated: 03/01/2004

Description
Takes a large url, passes it to www.tinyurl.com and returns a shortened one.

You can download a zip of the application at 
http://www.cfczone.org/cfcs/downloads/ctz_tinyurl.zip.  


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Re: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread morgan l
I don't believe that CF8 Standard comes with the server monitoring tools.

On 10/24/07, Peterson, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ben - the integrated server monitor in CF8 was not enough to figure out
 the errors? (from the admin, check out server monitor on the left)

 I have FusionReactor on CF7 Ent, and I agree it is much cleaner than the
 demo I tried of SeeFusion.  I have never had a problem with it.

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RE: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Peterson, Chris
Ben - the integrated server monitor in CF8 was not enough to figure out
the errors? (from the admin, check out server monitor on the left)

I have FusionReactor on CF7 Ent, and I agree it is much cleaner than the
demo I tried of SeeFusion.  I have never had a problem with it.

Chris Peterson
Gainey IT
Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer

-Original Message-
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

I'm about to invest in one of these, and I'm looking for advice and/or 
practical experience.  We have several applications running, and we're 
trying to hunt down the source of site slowdowns.  Is there an 
overriding reason to pick one over the other?

I'm currently leaning toward FusionReactor -- it seems cleaner and 
easier to use.  It is, of course, a bit more expensive.  Is it worth the

extra money?

For reference, I'm running CF8 Standard on Win2k3 R2.

--Ben Doom




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cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Mueller
Posted this yesterday, but it didn't seem to go through...

I became a convert to cfqueryparam, thanks to this list, about 2 months ago.  
Since then, I've wondered about this kind of statement (shortened here):

cfquery

SELECT username
  FROM user
 WHERE lastname = cfqueryparam type=varchar value=#mylastname#
 cfif len(myfirstname)
  AND cfqueryparam type=varchar value=#myfirstname#
 /cfif

/cfquery

Does the presence of the cfif block inside the SQL negate the speed benefits 
I would get from using cfqueryparam?  I'm kind of hoping not, but guessing yes.

Thanks in advance for the advice,
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RE: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Peterson, Chris
Eep, sorry, my bad =)

Chris Peterson
Gainey IT
Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer

-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

The Server Monitor doesn't ship with CF8 Standard, hence why Ben is
looking at alternatives.

Andy

ps Fusion Reactor gets my nod

On 24/10/2007, Peterson, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ben - the integrated server monitor in CF8 was not enough to figure
out
 the errors? (from the admin, check out server monitor on the left)

 I have FusionReactor on CF7 Ent, and I agree it is much cleaner than
the
 demo I tried of SeeFusion.  I have never had a problem with it.

 Chris Peterson
 Gainey IT
 Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

 I'm about to invest in one of these, and I'm looking for advice and/or
 practical experience.  We have several applications running, and we're
 trying to hunt down the source of site slowdowns.  Is there an
 overriding reason to pick one over the other?

 I'm currently leaning toward FusionReactor -- it seems cleaner and
 easier to use.  It is, of course, a bit more expensive.  Is it worth
the

 extra money?

 For reference, I'm running CF8 Standard on Win2k3 R2.

 --Ben Doom




 



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RE: programmatically add functions to a CFC

2007-10-24 Thread Jonathon Stierman
 There is also doco and a good google group as well, so you don't have to
speed dial me ;o)

Yep, I'm subscribed there as well :)

 Obviously, I don't really mind if you don't want to use 
 Transfer (or any other persistence framework) ;o), it may 
 well not fit your needs, but I just think the logic is a 
 bit skewed.  Sounds a little like Not Invented Here syndrome ;o)

There is more than a bit of that too!  We do like to write our own code
here.  It gives us an automatic in-house expert on the application (whoever
wrote it) and it's written using our coding standards, which makes it easier
to mod for future updates.  It definitely does eat up lots of developer
time though -- I definitely agree there, but it does have benefits.

Putting all sane business-decision logic aside, I would like to see if I can
build it.  Call it pride and the stupidity of youth, but I'm still learning
what I can do and what I can't.  When I started it, I knew it would be a fun
project that would throw challenges at me along the way -- and it has!  I
knew I'd learn a lot -- and I have!  I've picked up a few tricks that had
just picked up Transfer and ran with it, I'd still be clue-less on.

Of course one could argue that I'd learn new tricks by using Transfer too --
so that weakens my argument a little.

/rant :)

 Umn... you can setup composite object relationships across manytomany,
and have been able to since 
 version 0.1... so I'm not sure what you mean there.

 If you want to query it, you can also do it with TQL.. which can auto
join your m2m relationships 
 for you as well... so not sure what you need there?

Querying it is what I meant -- sorry for the confusion!  What I'd love is a
Get me a list/query/enum of all the Book records written by this Author
method from within an Author object.  As you noted, I could do it with TQL,
or I could write my own decorator that has that method.  What I'm trying to
get set up though is a generic object that does all this *without* me having
to write my own TQL or custom code!  The relationship data is there -- why
the need to custom-code it?  

That's really the core of what I'm trying to build If I know the schema, I
should be able to dynamically build a decent CRUD application out of it.

I doubt I'll get to the press-a-button-and-be-completly-done stage, but
I'm confident that I can get pretty close (maybe only having to tweak skins
and custom displays) to a completely built and skinned application.

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RE: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Brad Wood
I'm biased because SeeFusion is the only product I have used, but I
wholeheartedly recommend it.  (I have absolutely no affiliation with
them) Unless you are simply interested in spending more money don't
think SeeFusion is less of a product because it is cheaper. 

The latest version of SeeFusion uses a very slick Flex interface that
allows constant streaming of stats among other things which I have found
to be very easy to use.  
The active monitoring rules E-mail me before anyone even notices the
servers have a problem

Where I take SeeFusion to the bank is in the database logging.  I have a
separate database for my webserver stats which I aggregate via jobs
every night and I can produce pretty nice trending reports at the end of
the month. (I will send you an example of a report I made from SeeFusion
data if you are interested)

Even cooler is the API that is available to build your own monitoring
interfaces using live SeeFusion data.  I have a monitor I built that
shows me every spid running on the database, the NAME of the user
running it, and the page of the application they are on.  I used the
SeeFusion API to tie the web server info together with the database info
via running spid and web server IP.

Finally, I have never had a bad experience calling up for tech support.
I bugged the crap out of them for a while, and they still kept answering
the phones with a smile.  lol

Anyway, just my 2 cents.  :)

~Brad

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From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

I'm about to invest in one of these, and I'm looking for advice and/or 
practical experience.  We have several applications running, and we're 
trying to hunt down the source of site slowdowns.  Is there an 
overriding reason to pick one over the other?

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Re: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Andy Allan
The Server Monitor doesn't ship with CF8 Standard, hence why Ben is
looking at alternatives.

Andy

ps Fusion Reactor gets my nod

On 24/10/2007, Peterson, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ben - the integrated server monitor in CF8 was not enough to figure out
 the errors? (from the admin, check out server monitor on the left)

 I have FusionReactor on CF7 Ent, and I agree it is much cleaner than the
 demo I tried of SeeFusion.  I have never had a problem with it.

 Chris Peterson
 Gainey IT
 Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

 I'm about to invest in one of these, and I'm looking for advice and/or
 practical experience.  We have several applications running, and we're
 trying to hunt down the source of site slowdowns.  Is there an
 overriding reason to pick one over the other?

 I'm currently leaning toward FusionReactor -- it seems cleaner and
 easier to use.  It is, of course, a bit more expensive.  Is it worth the

 extra money?

 For reference, I'm running CF8 Standard on Win2k3 R2.

 --Ben Doom




 

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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
What I believe happens is that two different statements will be compiled in
the database, one that has two bind variables and one that has one. So you
should get the same speed benefit, the database just treats them as two
different statements.

On 10/24/07, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Posted this yesterday, but it didn't seem to go through...

 I became a convert to cfqueryparam, thanks to this list, about 2 months
 ago.  Since then, I've wondered about this kind of statement (shortened
 here):

 cfquery

 SELECT username
   FROM user
 WHERE lastname = cfqueryparam type=varchar value=#mylastname#
 cfif len(myfirstname)
   AND cfqueryparam type=varchar value=#myfirstname#
 /cfif

 /cfquery

 Does the presence of the cfif block inside the SQL negate the speed
 benefits I would get from using cfqueryparam?  I'm kind of hoping not, but
 guessing yes.

 Thanks in advance for the advice,
 Ben Mueller

 

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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Mueller
Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  will SQL create 
multiple prepared statements for each condition?  If so, that's great.  My fear 
is that it will only create 1 prepared statement for each cfquery block, so if 
the current statement doesn't match the previous statement, it would discard 
the previous one and create a new one.  

I have a bunch of queries that have 8 or more cfif conditions, almost all in 
the WHERE clause.  Obviously, the more cfif conditions there are, the greater 
the likelihood that any one individual call won't match the previous one. 

I know cfqp is really good and all that, but this would be pretty annoying if I 
got no real performance benefit.




Yes, to the extent that you are less likely to have another query with the
same prepared statement (and the same execution plan, of course) that can be
run again. Frankly, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that, since
coding around that causes all kinds of problems.

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Re: load balancing/failover and CF

2007-10-24 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 10/24/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  a previous job, we used a product called Coherence from tangosol
  (now owned by Oracle) (see
  http://www.tangosol.com/coherence-overview.jsp).  the coherence box
  acts as a dedicated session variable repository in the cluster...

 Err, but then you need to load balence and cluster them as well ?

well, nobody says you -need- to, but yes :)

ideally the coherence box would have to be high availability as well,
or it all kinda defeats the purpose.

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Re: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Doom
As Andy and Morgan pointed out, CF8 standard does not come with a server 
monitor.  Trust me -- I'd have already been using it if standard shipped 
with it!

Thanks for the FR nod.

--Ben Doom

Peterson, Chris wrote:
 Ben - the integrated server monitor in CF8 was not enough to figure out
 the errors? (from the admin, check out server monitor on the left)
 
 I have FusionReactor on CF7 Ent, and I agree it is much cleaner than the
 demo I tried of SeeFusion.  I have never had a problem with it.
 
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Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Sean Corfield
On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.

 cfdump works fine with the setting of  Disable access to internal
 ColdFusion Java components.

You didn't test thoroughly enough. See Mark Mandel's comment: you can
cfdump *some* things with that setting enabled but not all things.

 So that is not Mikes problem...

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no such binding error

2007-10-24 Thread Dan Vega
Has anyone ever gone to a cf site and seen No Such Binding? It does not
happen server wide but it seems to happen to many sites at once randomly. In
my application I am loading configuration from a database. To correct the
problem I simply go into my admin and verify all connections under
datasources and that seems to fix the problem. I really don't think this is
a coding issue but I can't seem to figure out how to fix it or at least how
to notify us so that our customers are not down.Below is the stack trace
from exception log.

Error,jrpp-200,10/24/07,11:47:21,ApplicationName,No such binding:
ApplicationName The specific sequence of files included or processed is:
E:\www\appname\index.cfm 
coldfusion.server.ServiceRuntimeException: No such binding: ApplicationName
at coldfusion.server.jrun4.SqlExecutive.getDataSource(SqlExecutive.java
:149)
at coldfusion.sql.Executive.getDatasource(Executive.java:464)
at coldfusion.sql.DataSrcImpl.validate(DataSrcImpl.java:64)
at coldfusion.sql.SqlImpl.validate(SqlImpl.java:200)
at coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag.doStartTag(QueryTag.java:397)
at cfApplication2ecfm272758846.runPage
(E:\www\appname\Application.cfm:19)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:147)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:357)
at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:62)
at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.include(CfincludeFilter.java:30)
at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:93)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:80)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:47)
at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(
ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:35)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:43)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:105)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java
:249)
at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java
:527)
at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(
JRunProxyService.java:192)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(
ThreadPool.java:348)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(
ThreadPool.java:451)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(
ThreadPool.java:294)
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RE: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Try not to think about queryparam as a performance benefit so much, The
performance increase isn't really anything that massive, think about it from
a security perspective.

Without cfqueryparam people will add, edit and remove content from your
database, gain access to secure sections of your site, steal important
information from you, names, address, credit card information and so on.

queryparam really is important... _really_ important ... I can't stress that
enough.

Why is it that you find it annoying? Because of the extra few moments it
takes to code? It really is worth that extra few seconds to wrap up all your
dynamic parameters, once you get in to the habbit you won't even think twice
about it.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 October 2007 17:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  will SQL create
multiple prepared statements for each condition?  If so, that's great.  My
fear is that it will only create 1 prepared statement for each cfquery
block, so if the current statement doesn't match the previous statement, it
would discard the previous one and create a new one.  

I have a bunch of queries that have 8 or more cfif conditions, almost all
in the WHERE clause.  Obviously, the more cfif conditions there are, the
greater the likelihood that any one individual call won't match the previous
one. 

I know cfqp is really good and all that, but this would be pretty annoying
if I got no real performance benefit.




Yes, to the extent that you are less likely to have another query with the
same prepared statement (and the same execution plan, of course) that can
be
run again. Frankly, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that, since
coding around that causes all kinds of problems.

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Re: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Doom
Thanks for the advice.  See questions and comments inline.

Brad Wood wrote:
 I'm biased because SeeFusion is the only product I have used, but I
 wholeheartedly recommend it.  (I have absolutely no affiliation with
 them) Unless you are simply interested in spending more money don't
 think SeeFusion is less of a product because it is cheaper. 

No, my preference for FusionReactor wasn't because SeeFusion was cheaper.

 The latest version of SeeFusion uses a very slick Flex interface that
 allows constant streaming of stats among other things which I have found
 to be very easy to use.

Yes.  However, the FusionReactor interface seems just as nice.

 The active monitoring rules E-mail me before anyone even notices the
 servers have a problem

FusionReactor seems to have this as well.

 Where I take SeeFusion to the bank is in the database logging.  I have a
 separate database for my webserver stats which I aggregate via jobs
 every night and I can produce pretty nice trending reports at the end of
 the month. (I will send you an example of a report I made from SeeFusion
 data if you are interested)

I had difficulty understanding how I was supposed to get this running. 
Honestly, I didn't put much time into it.

 Even cooler is the API that is available to build your own monitoring
 interfaces using live SeeFusion data.  I have a monitor I built that
 shows me every spid running on the database, the NAME of the user
 running it, and the page of the application they are on.  I used the
 SeeFusion API to tie the web server info together with the database info
 via running spid and web server IP.

Fair enough.  I'm not sure I'd use that, though.  But it is a damn nifty 
feature.

 Finally, I have never had a bad experience calling up for tech support.
 I bugged the crap out of them for a while, and they still kept answering
 the phones with a smile.  lol

This is IMHO a great recommendation.  Service is very important to me.

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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dominic Watson
If you are talking about whether, in the case of your multiple IF statement
DSQL, to use or not use CFQP then I think there is only one answer; use
CFQP! As I said before, if there is a performance boost in using CFQP over
not using it, then that performance boost should still be valid. Also, all
the arguments of security probably outweigh any performance issues there may
be.

If you are talking about finding an alternative to the multiple IF DSQL then
I would say that if it is at all possible, then do it! I.e., in the example
you gave, you could replace the CFIF with this:

cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB

SELECT email
 FROM user u
 WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#somecountry#
 AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)  0
  OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)
/cfif
/cfquery

Dom

On 24/10/2007, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  will SQL create
 multiple prepared statements for each condition?  If so, that's great.  My
 fear is that it will only create 1 prepared statement for each cfquery
 block, so if the current statement doesn't match the previous statement, it
 would discard the previous one and create a new one.

 I have a bunch of queries that have 8 or more cfif conditions, almost
 all in the WHERE clause.  Obviously, the more cfif conditions there are,
 the greater the likelihood that any one individual call won't match the
 previous one.

 I know cfqp is really good and all that, but this would be pretty annoying
 if I got no real performance benefit.



 
 Yes, to the extent that you are less likely to have another query with
 the
 same prepared statement (and the same execution plan, of course) that can
 be
 run again. Frankly, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that, since
 coding around that causes all kinds of problems.
 
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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dominic Watson
Oh my goodness me, still wrong! Should be:

SELECT  email
FROM user u
WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#somecountry#
AND ( Len('cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#') = 0

  OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)

Phew!

Dom

On 24/10/2007, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Woops, I made a mistake in that SQL, should have been:

 cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB

 SELECT email
  FROM user u
  WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#somecountry#
  AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#) =
 0
   OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)
 /cfif
 /cfquery

  On 24/10/2007, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you are talking about whether, in the case of your multiple IF
  statement DSQL, to use or not use CFQP then I think there is only one
  answer; use CFQP! As I said before, if there is a performance boost in using
  CFQP over not using it, then that performance boost should still be valid.
  Also, all the arguments of security probably outweigh any performance issues
  there may be.
 
  If you are talking about finding an alternative to the multiple IF DSQL
  then I would say that if it is at all possible, then do it! I.e., in the
  example you gave, you could replace the CFIF with this:
 
  cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB
 
  SELECT email
   FROM user u
   WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
  value=#somecountry#
   AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)
   0
OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
  value=#somestate#)
  /cfif
  /cfquery
 
  Dom
 
   On 24/10/2007, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  will SQL
   create multiple prepared statements for each condition?  If so, that's
   great.  My fear is that it will only create 1 prepared statement for each
   cfquery block, so if the current statement doesn't match the previous
   statement, it would discard the previous one and create a new one.
  
   I have a bunch of queries that have 8 or more cfif conditions,
   almost all in the WHERE clause.  Obviously, the more cfif conditions 
   there
   are, the greater the likelihood that any one individual call won't match 
   the
   previous one.
  
   I know cfqp is really good and all that, but this would be pretty
   annoying if I got no real performance benefit.
  
  
  
   
   Yes, to the extent that you are less likely to have another query
   with the
   same prepared statement (and the same execution plan, of course) that
   can be
   run again. Frankly, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that,
   since
   coding around that causes all kinds of problems.
   
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   http://www.figleaf.com/
  
  
   

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RE: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Watts
 I'm about to invest in one of these, and I'm looking for 
 advice and/or practical experience.  We have several 
 applications running, and we're trying to hunt down the 
 source of site slowdowns.  Is there an overriding reason to 
 pick one over the other?

Not really. I've used them both, and like them both. For what it's worth, I
prefer SeeFusion for troubleshooting and FusionReactor for monitoring.

 I'm currently leaning toward FusionReactor -- it seems 
 cleaner and easier to use.  It is, of course, a bit more 
 expensive.  Is it worth the extra money?

They are both inexpensive enough that if you prefer one to the other, you
should get it.

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CF Mappings

2007-10-24 Thread Web Exp
Hi
I have two separate applications running on the CF server CF MX 7.0.2 Standard.

Currently both are using same set of custom tags/cfc frameworks.

But I want them to use two separate copies of the CFC/custom tags. So
that if I am working on one application's cfcs, it doesn't affect the
other.

How can i do so? Caan I create separate mappings per application?

Please help.

- k

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OT: SQL Help

2007-10-24 Thread Rick Root
I'm having a weird query issue with SQL server...

The following query inserts two rows into the query_results
table:


insert into ENQUIRE.dbo.QUERY_RESULTS ( QUERYID, ENTITY_ID )
SELECT DISTINCT 1933 AS QUERYID, A.ENTITY_ID
FROM BIOTAB1 A
inner join WEBREPORTS.dbo.TB912 TB912 on A.ENTITY_ID=TB912.ENTITYID
--  inner join WEBREPORTS.dbo.TB967 TB967 on A.ENTITY_ID=TB967.ENTITYID
WHERE 1=1
AND A.PRIMARY_RECORD_STATUS IN ('A','-')
AND EXISTS (
SELECT 1 FROM AFFIL X
WHERE X.ENTITY_ID = A.ENTITY_ID AND X.RECORD_TYPE IN ('TS')
)
AND
(
1=0 OR
(
1=1 and TB912.MAILCODE IN ('YAN')
--  ) OR (
--  1=1 and TB967.EVENTCDE IN ('AF55')
)
)


That's correct behavior.  If I run the select statement by
itself, it returns 2 records.

But if I uncomment the three lines that are commented out, the
query only inserts ONE record.

The SELECT statement run by itself (with the commented out
lines uncommented) returns two records.

Why won't it insert the two records?

I'm just running this stuff in SQL Server Management Studio,
but the results from Coldfusion are the same.

Rick

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RE: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
One other thing you might want to consider is the licensing.

The last time I checked SeeFusion and FusionReactor were licensed in
different ways.

A SeeFusion license had to be purchased for each instance of ColdFusion
running on the server.  Whereas, one FusionReactor license was used per
server (not instance).

This locked in FusionReactor for us.  At the time, FusionReactor cost us
a little of $700 with a year update subscription.  To do the same with
SeeFusion we figured out our costs to be over $3000.

Of course licensing may have changed since then (almost a year ago), but
I'm happy with FusionReactor.  Within 45 minutes of installing it, we
found what was randomly crashing our server.  A user found out how to
fudge a url to pull down massive amounts of data.  We corrected the code
and booted the user.  This after 4 weeks of trying to find the problem.

Steve
 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

Thanks for the advice.  See questions and comments inline.

Brad Wood wrote:
 I'm biased because SeeFusion is the only product I have used, but I
 wholeheartedly recommend it.  (I have absolutely no affiliation with
 them) Unless you are simply interested in spending more money don't
 think SeeFusion is less of a product because it is cheaper. 

No, my preference for FusionReactor wasn't because SeeFusion was
cheaper.

 The latest version of SeeFusion uses a very slick Flex interface that
 allows constant streaming of stats among other things which I have
found
 to be very easy to use.

Yes.  However, the FusionReactor interface seems just as nice.

 The active monitoring rules E-mail me before anyone even notices the
 servers have a problem

FusionReactor seems to have this as well.

 Where I take SeeFusion to the bank is in the database logging.  I have
a
 separate database for my webserver stats which I aggregate via jobs
 every night and I can produce pretty nice trending reports at the end
of
 the month. (I will send you an example of a report I made from
SeeFusion
 data if you are interested)

I had difficulty understanding how I was supposed to get this running. 
Honestly, I didn't put much time into it.

 Even cooler is the API that is available to build your own monitoring
 interfaces using live SeeFusion data.  I have a monitor I built that
 shows me every spid running on the database, the NAME of the user
 running it, and the page of the application they are on.  I used the
 SeeFusion API to tie the web server info together with the database
info
 via running spid and web server IP.

Fair enough.  I'm not sure I'd use that, though.  But it is a damn nifty

feature.

 Finally, I have never had a bad experience calling up for tech
support.
 I bugged the crap out of them for a while, and they still kept
answering
 the phones with a smile.  lol

This is IMHO a great recommendation.  Service is very important to me.

--Ben Doom




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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Eric Cobb
It did go through.  Check the website, there have been several responses.

http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:54002

Thanks,

Eric

Ben Mueller wrote:
 Posted this yesterday, but it didn't seem to go through...
 
 I became a convert to cfqueryparam, thanks to this list, about 2 months ago.  
 Since then, I've wondered about this kind of statement (shortened here):
 
 cfquery
 
 SELECT username
   FROM user
  WHERE lastname = cfqueryparam type=varchar value=#mylastname#
  cfif len(myfirstname)
   AND cfqueryparam type=varchar value=#myfirstname#
  /cfif
 
 /cfquery
 
 Does the presence of the cfif block inside the SQL negate the speed 
 benefits I would get from using cfqueryparam?  I'm kind of hoping not, but 
 guessing yes.
 
 Thanks in advance for the advice,
 Ben Mueller 
 
 

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CFZIP and CFINDEX

2007-10-24 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
In the latest of my series of most likely unanswerable Verity questions, I
have a question:

Using CFINDEX, will Verity index supported document types in a Zip archive
that is created using CFZIP?

Followup, loosely related question, is there any undocumented CFZIP
functionality that will allow me to ADD a new document to an existing zip
archive?  It seems odd that they would add the ability to delete from an
archive, but not the ability to add to an archive.

Thanks

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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dominic Watson
Woops, I made a mistake in that SQL, should have been:

cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB

SELECT email
 FROM user u
 WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#somecountry#
 AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#) = 0
  OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)
/cfif
/cfquery

On 24/10/2007, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you are talking about whether, in the case of your multiple IF
 statement DSQL, to use or not use CFQP then I think there is only one
 answer; use CFQP! As I said before, if there is a performance boost in using
 CFQP over not using it, then that performance boost should still be valid.
 Also, all the arguments of security probably outweigh any performance issues
 there may be.

 If you are talking about finding an alternative to the multiple IF DSQL
 then I would say that if it is at all possible, then do it! I.e., in the
 example you gave, you could replace the CFIF with this:

 cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB

 SELECT email
  FROM user u
  WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#somecountry#
  AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#) 
 0
   OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)
 /cfif
 /cfquery

 Dom

  On 24/10/2007, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  will SQL
  create multiple prepared statements for each condition?  If so, that's
  great.  My fear is that it will only create 1 prepared statement for each
  cfquery block, so if the current statement doesn't match the previous
  statement, it would discard the previous one and create a new one.
 
  I have a bunch of queries that have 8 or more cfif conditions, almost
  all in the WHERE clause.  Obviously, the more cfif conditions there are,
  the greater the likelihood that any one individual call won't match the
  previous one.
 
  I know cfqp is really good and all that, but this would be pretty
  annoying if I got no real performance benefit.
 
 
 
  
  Yes, to the extent that you are less likely to have another query with
  the
  same prepared statement (and the same execution plan, of course) that
  can be
  run again. Frankly, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that, since
  coding around that causes all kinds of problems.
  
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Re: CF Mappings

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
You can on CF8. Otherwise you'll have to maintain two copies and adjust the
paths used by the applications accordingly. Though I don't really see why
you want to maintain a central set of files and at the same time not have
the changes applied everywhere. It sounds like you don't really want central
files at all. Further, unless you're making these changes on a live server
(which of course would be discouraged in the strongest possible terms), why
does it matter? Just refactor locally as needed, and when you have them
ready, move them to production so that the changes get applied to all sites
using the shared code.

On 10/24/07, Web Exp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 I have two separate applications running on the CF server CF MX 7.0.2Standard.

 Currently both are using same set of custom tags/cfc frameworks.

 But I want them to use two separate copies of the CFC/custom tags. So
 that if I am working on one application's cfcs, it doesn't affect the
 other.

 How can i do so? Caan I create separate mappings per application?

 Please help.

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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Mueller
Try not to think about queryparam as a performance benefit so much, The
performance increase isn't really anything that massive, think about it from
a security perspective.

Without cfqueryparam people will add, edit and remove content from your
database, gain access to secure sections of your site, steal important
information from you, names, address, credit card information and so on.

queryparam really is important... _really_ important ... I can't stress that
enough.

Why is it that you find it annoying? Because of the extra few moments it
takes to code? It really is worth that extra few seconds to wrap up all your
dynamic parameters, once you get in to the habbit you won't even think twice
about it.

I get the fact that it's important to prevent SQL injection attacks, etc etc.  
While I certainly see the value of that, I must admit that I'm not sold on 
cfqueryparam for that reason alone.  Our web application tends to check 
incoming data before it even gets to a SQL statement.  So, while I have started 
using cfqp everywhere, I probably wouldn't use it for security alone.  Hate me 
if you must.  (-;

I am also interested in the performance benefit, and what would annoy me is if 
the presence of a cfif statement inside a cfquery block negated any 
performance benefit gained from cfqp.  There are a few cases on our site where 
adding cfqp seems to have made a non-trivial difference in performance, and I 
would hate to think that in all other other places I use it, I may be doing 
more harm than good in terms of performance.

(I'm only slightly annoyed by how verbose the tag is, but not enough to stop 
using it).

Anyway, thanks all for the replies. 

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RE: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Watts
 Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  
 will SQL create multiple prepared statements for each 
 condition?  If so, that's great.  My fear is that it will 
 only create 1 prepared statement for each cfquery block, so 
 if the current statement doesn't match the previous 
 statement, it would discard the previous one and create a new one.

Execution plans are cached by your database server, not by your application
server, so you'll just end up with more execution plans. CF just builds the
statement and sends it to the database server.

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Re: programmatically add functions to a CFC

2007-10-24 Thread Brian Kotek
On 10/24/07, Jonathon Stierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Querying it is what I meant -- sorry for the confusion!  What I'd love is
 a
 Get me a list/query/enum of all the Book records written by this Author
 method from within an Author object.  As you noted, I could do it with
 TQL,
 or I could write my own decorator that has that method.  What I'm trying
 to
 get set up though is a generic object that does all this *without* me
 having
 to write my own TQL or custom code!  The relationship data is there -- why
 the need to custom-code it?

 That's really the core of what I'm trying to build If I know the schema,
 I
 should be able to dynamically build a decent CRUD application out of it.


You can do this already. You just set up a one to many join in your Transfer
configuration, and then when you have a Book you say something like
getAuthorArray() (if you told Transfer that you want the relationship to
use an array) and you get back an array of Author objects associated with
the book. You don't need a decorator or TQL if you're just pulling related
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How should SQL handle same named columns from different tables?

2007-10-24 Thread Jim McAtee
SELECT a.*, b.*
FROM user a INNER JOIN userprefs b ON b.userid = a.userid
WHERE username = 'bsmith'

In the query there's a common column named 'userid'.  Should the query 
retun

1) one column named userid
2) two columns named userid
3) two columns with some type of unique name for each

I find that the CF8 'Microsoft Access with Unicode' driver does #3, which 
I hadn't seen before in other ODBC drivers.  It returns two columns named 
'a.userid' and 'b.userid'. 


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RE: CFMX 7 - Jrun 100%

2007-10-24 Thread Gaulin, Mark
If you have access to the web server (remote desktop is great) then you
get an extremely useful thread dump of the jrun server process using the
steps described below... They talk about CF 6 but it applies to CF7 too.

SUMMARY:

Try to get a stack trace (technote 18339 -
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18339) 

When you see it start to spike, set focus to the DOS Window and hit
Control+(Pause/Break) (not control-C which everyone does by instinct -
that kills JRun). 

One thing: For 6.1 at least, you don't have to run jrun from the command
line; if you change the service to interact with desktop and restart
it, it will 
open a command window and you can ctrl-break in it to create the dumps,
which go the one of the jrun log files.  You need to be able to connect
to the machine's desktop to use this approach though. 

Thanks
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX 7 - Jrun 100%

Hi,

I'm running CFMX 7 on a Windows 2003 Server - Standard Edition.

I upgraded from MX 6 using the upgrade procedure during the MX7 install.

After installing, I disabled MX6 in services.

All has been running great for some months now, at least 6.

My problem is that the jrun.exe process has suddenly started running at
98% plus.

I recalled this was a problem with MX6 so I decided to uninstall MX6, as
I'm no longer using it.  This promptly removed my cfide directories :/

I then tried reinstalling CFMX7 assuming this would give me the CFIDE,
at which point I got a message suggesting that for an upgrade, the CFMX6
needs to be intalled.

So, I have two questions:

1.  What could be causing Jrun to be running at 98%+ ?

2.  Do I HAVE to have CFMX6 installed to run my upgrade edition of MX7?

Many thanks,

Jenny





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RE: CF Mappings

2007-10-24 Thread Peterson, Chris
If you have Coldfusion 8, you can create per-application mappings.
Otherwise, you can make sub-folders inside your mappings.  For example,
I have a 'com' mapping.  Then I make domain / company based subfolders,
so I can have:

Com.qualcomm
Com.pcMiler
Com.gainey

You get the idea =)

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Mappings

Hi
I have two separate applications running on the CF server CF MX 7.0.2
Standard.

Currently both are using same set of custom tags/cfc frameworks.

But I want them to use two separate copies of the CFC/custom tags. So
that if I am working on one application's cfcs, it doesn't affect the
other.

How can i do so? Caan I create separate mappings per application?

Please help.

- k



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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Aaron Rouse
I'd think adding the OR like that would end up with a performance, a
insanely small one, drop just like a CFIFmight.

On 10/24/07, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh my goodness me, still wrong! Should be:

 SELECT  email
 FROM user u
 WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#somecountry#
 AND ( Len('cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#') =
 0

   OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)

 Phew!

 Dom

 On 24/10/2007, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Woops, I made a mistake in that SQL, should have been:
 
  cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB
 
  SELECT email
   FROM user u
   WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
  value=#somecountry#
   AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)
 =
  0
OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#somestate#)
  /cfif
  /cfquery
 
   On 24/10/2007, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you are talking about whether, in the case of your multiple IF
   statement DSQL, to use or not use CFQP then I think there is only one
   answer; use CFQP! As I said before, if there is a performance boost in
 using
   CFQP over not using it, then that performance boost should still be
 valid.
   Also, all the arguments of security probably outweigh any performance
 issues
   there may be.
  
   If you are talking about finding an alternative to the multiple IF
 DSQL
   then I would say that if it is at all possible, then do it! I.e., in
 the
   example you gave, you could replace the CFIF with this:
  
   cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB
  
   SELECT email
FROM user u
WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
   value=#somecountry#
AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#somestate#)
0
 OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
   value=#somestate#)
   /cfif
   /cfquery
  
   Dom
  
On 24/10/2007, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  will SQL
create multiple prepared statements for each condition?  If so,
 that's
great.  My fear is that it will only create 1 prepared statement for
 each
cfquery block, so if the current statement doesn't match the
 previous
statement, it would discard the previous one and create a new one.
   
I have a bunch of queries that have 8 or more cfif conditions,
almost all in the WHERE clause.  Obviously, the more cfif
 conditions there
are, the greater the likelihood that any one individual call won't
 match the
previous one.
   
I know cfqp is really good and all that, but this would be pretty
annoying if I got no real performance benefit.
   
   
   

Yes, to the extent that you are less likely to have another query
with the
same prepared statement (and the same execution plan, of course)
 that
can be
run again. Frankly, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that,
since
coding around that causes all kinds of problems.

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Re: CF Mappings

2007-10-24 Thread Dominic Watson
Absolutely you can have independant mappings. I would have 1 mapping for
components that should be shared between applications (in there own
directory on the server). Then have individual mappings per application to
a folder within the app root that has application specific components.

Dom


On 24/10/2007, Web Exp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 I have two separate applications running on the CF server CF MX 7.0.2Standard.

 Currently both are using same set of custom tags/cfc frameworks.

 But I want them to use two separate copies of the CFC/custom tags. So
 that if I am working on one application's cfcs, it doesn't affect the
 other.

 How can i do so? Caan I create separate mappings per application?

 Please help.

 - k

 

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RE: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Watts
 I get the fact that it's important to prevent SQL injection 
 attacks, etc etc.  While I certainly see the value of that, I 
 must admit that I'm not sold on cfqueryparam for that reason 
 alone.  Our web application tends to check incoming data 
 before it even gets to a SQL statement.  So, while I have 
 started using cfqp everywhere, I probably wouldn't use it for 
 security alone.  Hate me if you must.  (-;

It's one thing to check incoming data (not to mention tend to check said
data) and another thing to separate data from SQL code, which is what
CFQUERYPARAM does. The former is no substitute for the latter.

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Re: How should SQL handle same named columns from different tables?

2007-10-24 Thread Kris Jones
You could check the specification for the version of SQL you're using.
This may also depend on the version of Access you are using. In my
experience, Access would return something along the lines of:
[tablename].[columnname], such as:
[a].[userid]
[b].[userid]
These could also be referenced as a.userid and b.userid respectively.

When querying against SQL Server (from version 6.5 to 2005) in SQL
itself I could, of course, reference the columns prefaced with their
table name as you note. However, from ColdFusion (against a query
object), that was not an option, and a reference to the duplicate
column name would return the first appearing column's value (left-most
in the recordset).

In general, it is up to the developer to alias the columns so that
they can be referenced appropriately in such a scenario. I also am not
a fan of the * in queries. And, I wonder, in the example you have
given, why this is an issue, since the values for the columns will be
exactly the same?

SELECT a.userid as a_user, b.userid b_user, a.*, b.*
FROM user a INNER JOIN userprefs b ON b.userid = a.userid

Cheers,
Kris

 SELECT a.*, b.*
 FROM user a INNER JOIN userprefs b ON b.userid = a.userid
 WHERE username = 'bsmith'

 In the query there's a common column named 'userid'.  Should the query
 retun

 1) one column named userid
 2) two columns named userid
 3) two columns with some type of unique name for each

 I find that the CF8 'Microsoft Access with Unicode' driver does #3, which
 I hadn't seen before in other ODBC drivers.  It returns two columns named
 'a.userid' and 'b.userid'.

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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dominic Watson

 But do you really need the quotes around the cfqp inside the len()
 statement?


No you don't, yet another mistake!


 I'd think adding the OR like that would end up with a performance, a
 insanely small one, drop just like a CFIFmight.

I'd be interested to know the performance difference between doing that and
using CFIF to build the query. Any other solutions that would perform
faster?

I quite often do something similar with stored procs but usually with
numerical values, i.e. Default them to 0 in the proc and do 'where (@foo = 0
OR myCol = @foo)'. I'm quite sure that is faster than building a dynamic
query and sending it to the server.

Dominic



On 24/10/2007, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd think adding the OR like that would end up with a performance, a
 insanely small one, drop just like a CFIFmight.

 On 10/24/07, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Oh my goodness me, still wrong! Should be:
 
  SELECT  email
  FROM user u
  WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
  value=#somecountry#
  AND ( Len('cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#')
 =
  0
 
OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#somestate#)
 
  Phew!
 
  Dom
 
  On 24/10/2007, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Woops, I made a mistake in that SQL, should have been:
  
   cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB
  
   SELECT email
FROM user u
WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
   value=#somecountry#
AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#somestate#)
  =
   0
 OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
  value=#somestate#)
   /cfif
   /cfquery
  
On 24/10/2007, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
If you are talking about whether, in the case of your multiple IF
statement DSQL, to use or not use CFQP then I think there is only
 one
answer; use CFQP! As I said before, if there is a performance boost
 in
  using
CFQP over not using it, then that performance boost should still be
  valid.
Also, all the arguments of security probably outweigh any
 performance
  issues
there may be.
   
If you are talking about finding an alternative to the multiple IF
  DSQL
then I would say that if it is at all possible, then do it! I.e., in
  the
example you gave, you could replace the CFIF with this:
   
cfquery name=myname datasource=myDB
   
SELECT email
 FROM user u
 WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#somecountry#
 AND ( Len(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
  value=#somestate#)
 0
  OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#somestate#)
/cfif
/cfquery
   
Dom
   
 On 24/10/2007, Ben Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Thanks, all, for your replies.  So, a follow-up question:  will
 SQL
 create multiple prepared statements for each condition?  If so,
  that's
 great.  My fear is that it will only create 1 prepared statement
 for
  each
 cfquery block, so if the current statement doesn't match the
  previous
 statement, it would discard the previous one and create a new one.

 I have a bunch of queries that have 8 or more cfif conditions,
 almost all in the WHERE clause.  Obviously, the more cfif
  conditions there
 are, the greater the likelihood that any one individual call won't
  match the
 previous one.

 I know cfqp is really good and all that, but this would be pretty
 annoying if I got no real performance benefit.



 
 Yes, to the extent that you are less likely to have another query
 with the
 same prepared statement (and the same execution plan, of course)
  that
 can be
 run again. Frankly, though, I wouldn't worry too much about that,
 since
 coding around that causes all kinds of problems.
 
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 http://www.figleaf.com/



 
 

 

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RE: CFZIP and CFINDEX

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Watts
 Using CFINDEX, will Verity index supported document types in 
 a Zip archive that is created using CFZIP?

No.

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Re: Max Varchar Length

2007-10-24 Thread Richard White
Thanks for your help, much clearer now :) 

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RE: SeeFusion vs. FusionReactor

2007-10-24 Thread Brad Wood
Actually, the SeeFusion pricing is a little different then that.  

http://www.seefusion.com/index.cfm?do=c.whatsnew

The last item on this page details their 2 for 1 pricing model.

==

New 2-for-1 pricing model for individual servers 
For any single physical server, every 2 ColdFusion instances that you
want to monitor now require just 1 SeeFusion license. So for a server
with 4 ColdFusion instances that you want to monitor, you'd need 2
SeeFusion licenses. Or, for 2 physical servers each with 2 ColdFusion
instances you want to monitor, you'd also still only need 2 SeeFusion
licenses.  

==

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A SeeFusion license had to be purchased for each instance of ColdFusion
running on the server.  Whereas, one FusionReactor license was used per
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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Mueller
Oh my goodness me, still wrong! Should be:

SELECT  email
FROM user u
WHERE country = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#somecountry#
AND ( Len('cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#') = 0

  OR state = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#somestate#)

Phew!

Dom

Interesting idea, Dom.  Thanks.  But do you really need the quotes around the 
cfqp inside the len() statement?  I would think not.

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Re: CFZIP and CFINDEX

2007-10-24 Thread Raymond Camden
On 10/24/07, Pete Ruckelshaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the latest of my series of most likely unanswerable Verity questions, I
 have a question:

 Using CFINDEX, will Verity index supported document types in a Zip archive
 that is created using CFZIP?

Since CFZIP makes a standard zip - Verity should be able to work it.
Multiple zip formats are listed in the supported documents section of
the docs.


 Followup, loosely related question, is there any undocumented CFZIP
 functionality that will allow me to ADD a new document to an existing zip
 archive?  It seems odd that they would add the ability to delete from an
 archive, but not the ability to add to an archive.

You can add, you just use the Zip action again. It can update an existing zip.

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Re: How should SQL handle same named columns from different tables?

2007-10-24 Thread Ian Skinner
It returns two columns named 'a.userid' and 'b.userid'. 

That is the behavior I have always experienced in my 10 years of database 
driven web application development.




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Re: CF Mappings

2007-10-24 Thread Web Exp
Hi Chris,
Can you explain what a com mapping is and how I can create it.
I am using CF 7.0.2
Also, how will the CF Applications know which mapping to go to?

On 10/24/07, Peterson, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you have Coldfusion 8, you can create per-application mappings.
 Otherwise, you can make sub-folders inside your mappings.  For example,
 I have a 'com' mapping.  Then I make domain / company based subfolders,
 so I can have:

 Com.qualcomm
 Com.pcMiler
 Com.gainey

 You get the idea =)

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 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF Mappings

 Hi
 I have two separate applications running on the CF server CF MX 7.0.2
 Standard.

 Currently both are using same set of custom tags/cfc frameworks.

 But I want them to use two separate copies of the CFC/custom tags. So
 that if I am working on one application's cfcs, it doesn't affect the
 other.

 How can i do so? Caan I create separate mappings per application?

 Please help.

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Re: How should SQL handle same named columns from different tables?

2007-10-24 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 10/24/07, Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SELECT a.*, b.*
 FROM user a INNER JOIN userprefs b ON b.userid = a.userid
 WHERE username = 'bsmith'

 In the query there's a common column named 'userid'.  Should the query
 retun

I'd probably avoid using * in an effort to remove the ambiguity.  Then
alias the column names.

SELECT
 a.userID AS foo,
 b.userID AS bar,
 (other columns here)
FROM
 ...

(or, assuming they're the same value, just select one or the other,
but not both) :)

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RE: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Watts
 I quite often do something similar with stored procs but 
 usually with numerical values, i.e. Default them to 0 in the 
 proc and do 'where (@foo = 0 OR myCol = @foo)'. I'm quite 
 sure that is faster than building a dynamic query and sending 
 it to the server.

Why are you quite sure? Have you done any load testing?

Very often, things don't work out the way we might expect them to.

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RE: programmatically add functions to a CFC

2007-10-24 Thread Jonathon Stierman
 You can do this already. You just set up a one to 
 many join in your Transfer configuration, and then 
 when you have a Book you say something like 
 getAuthorArray()

Oh -- Well, that makes me look rather silly then, doesn't it!  I'll run
through the docs again and pay closer attention.  I had cfdump'ed a
TransferObject when I was testing, so I must have either set it up wrong in
the configuration or missed the method.

Jonathon

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: programmatically add functions to a CFC

On 10/24/07, Jonathon Stierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Querying it is what I meant -- sorry for the confusion!  What I'd love 
 is a Get me a list/query/enum of all the Book records written by this 
 Author
 method from within an Author object.  As you noted, I could do it with 
 TQL, or I could write my own decorator that has that method.  What I'm 
 trying to get set up though is a generic object that does all this 
 *without* me having to write my own TQL or custom code!  The 
 relationship data is there -- why the need to custom-code it?

 That's really the core of what I'm trying to build If I know the 
 schema, I should be able to dynamically build a decent CRUD 
 application out of it.


You can do this already. You just set up a one to many join in your Transfer
configuration, and then when you have a Book you say something like
getAuthorArray() (if you told Transfer that you want the relationship to
use an array) and you get back an array of Author objects associated with
the book. You don't need a decorator or TQL if you're just pulling related
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RE: Max Varchar Length

2007-10-24 Thread Dale Fraser
SQL 2005

Varchar(MAX)

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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 12:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Max Varchar Length

I believe in newer versions of MySQL, there is only varchar and it can range
from 1 to the max length which I believe is 65534. LargeText is for 65535 up
to around 10 or 15 million characters.

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Max Varchar Length

HI,

Just wondering if anyone works with mysql and can help us understand this
little issue.

we understood that the maximum length for a varchar is 255. however we read
somewhere that since mysql version 5.0.3 the varchar maximum length is 767.

We have just been testing this theory and dont know why but the database is
allowing us to alter a columns data type to varchar(5), if we set it to
varchar(65535) it tells us it is too big and that we need to include a text
data type instead. 

This is of course what we expected but we expected this error to occur way
before we was allowed to insert varchar(5) and would have expected it on
either varchar(256) or varchar(768) depending on the version we have

Hope this makes sense and would really appreciate any help with
understanding this and how to best use the text and varchar data types

thanks 





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CF8 CFGRID bind problem on include

2007-10-24 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
I'm running into an interesting problem.  I'm working on a CFGrid
based data list that is going to be included on several different
pages.  The grid is using the BIND feature to allow for AJAX sorting
and pagination.

The problem that I'm running in to - I moved the code into an include
and now I get the grid header and footer generated and the loading
icon is spinning but noting populates.  I'm testing with a 5 column
table.

Here's the grid code:

cfgrid name=MyDataGrid bindonload=true sort=yes highlighthref=yes
griddataalign=left gridlines=yes selectmode=row
insertbutton=Add deletebutton=Delete
enabled=yes visible=yes format=html

bind=cfc:data.getdatalist({cfgridpage},{cfgridpagesize},{cfgridsortcolumn},{cfgridsortdirection},'#arguments.Table#')
preservepageonsort=false
striperows=yes selectonload=false autowidth=false
cfloop from=1 to=#ListLen(arguments.ColumnList)# index=x
cfif x NEQ ListLen(arguments.ColumnList)
cfgridcolumn
name=#ListGetAt(arguments.ColumnList, x)# display=yes
header=#ListGetAt(arguments.HeaderList, x)#
dataalign=#ListGetAt(arguments.AlignList, x)#
width=#ListGetAt(arguments.WidthList, x)# /
cfelse
cfgridcolumn
name=#ListGetAt(arguments.ColumnList, x)#
header=#ListGetAt(arguments.HeaderList, x)# headeralign=center
dataalign=center width=#ListGetAt(arguments.WidthList, x)#
bold=no italic=no href=#arguments.pagename#
hrefkey=#arguments.KeyName# select=no display=yes
headerbold=no headeritalic=no /
/cfif
/cfloop
/cfgrid

The CFC being called is:

cffunction name=getdatalist access=remote output=no
cfargument name=page
cfargument name=pagesize
cfargument name=gridsortcolumn
cfargument name=gridsortdirection
cfargument name=table

cfstoredproc datasource=#application.dsn#
procedure=up_get_#arguments.Table#
cfprocresult name=DataResults
/cfstoredproc

cfquery name=DataResults dbtype=query
SELECT *, 'Edit/Delete' as ActionText
FROM DataResults
cfif len(trim(arguments.gridsortcolumn)) NEQ 0 OR
len(trim(arguments.gridsortdirection)) NEQ 0
ORDER BY #arguments.gridsortcolumn# 
#arguments.gridsortdirection#
/cfif
/cfquery

cfreturn QueryConvertForGrid(DataResults, arguments.page,
arguments.pagesize)
/cffunction

The QoQ is there so I don't have to fuss with dynamic SQL in my stored
procedures.

Thoughts?
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Re: CFZIP and CFINDEX

2007-10-24 Thread Raymond Camden
That's not what I see here. I used cfzip to create a zip. I included
the zip in a collection. When I searched against the collection,
Verity found a match in my zip.

On 10/24/07, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Using CFINDEX, will Verity index supported document types in
  a Zip archive that is created using CFZIP?

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RE: Working with CFGRID

2007-10-24 Thread Dale Fraser
Do you realise that the grid can just contain HTML. So if you want a red
cell or similar

font color=redstrongVALUE/strong/font

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Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 11:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Working with CFGRID

thanks for that andrew but that allows me to format the data within the grid
into different formats from the blog that i found
(http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/8/20/Custom-grid-renderers-wit
h-CFGRID) maybe im using the wrong blog


 Yes there is.
 
 It is called custom rendering, and Ray Camdan has a tutorial on his
 blog that will help you with that.
 
 
 On 10/24/07, Anthony Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i have created a cfgrid formatted to HTML i have also added the 
 href=page.cfm hrefkey=ID to the column as well.  The grid displays 
 ok but when the rows are empty it shows a - in the blank rows were 
 the data would be linked to the different page.
 
  is there a way to only hyperlink the rows with data in them so that 
 the grid doesnt look as bad.
 
  Thanks
 
  




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Using ColdFusion to determine if user has Flash player?

2007-10-24 Thread Andy Matthews
Anyone know if this is possible through whatever means?
 
My company currently uses Browserhawk to detect this, but we'd like to do
away with BH (and the cost).
 

 
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Re: How should SQL handle same named columns from different tables?

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Doom
IIRC, it should actually error and force you either to pick one or give 
them unique names (a.userid as bob, b.userid as fred).

Expecting Access to behave properly is like expecting teens not to 
drink.  Sometimes it works, but most of the time, it's a mistake.

--Ben Doom

Jim McAtee wrote:
 SELECT a.*, b.*
 FROM user a INNER JOIN userprefs b ON b.userid = a.userid
 WHERE username = 'bsmith'
 
 In the query there's a common column named 'userid'.  Should the query 
 retun
 
 1) one column named userid
 2) two columns named userid
 3) two columns with some type of unique name for each
 
 I find that the CF8 'Microsoft Access with Unicode' driver does #3, which 
 I hadn't seen before in other ODBC drivers.  It returns two columns named 
 'a.userid' and 'b.userid'. 
 
 
 

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cfdocument and a bar code graphic

2007-10-24 Thread Rusty Owens
I am trying to create a pdf which will be the cover sheet for a job system.  On 
the PDF is a bar code graphic, the problem is that, once the pdf is created, 
unless you view the pdf at about 30% scale, you either don't see the graphic or 
is looks faded.  Has anyone had problems with graphics appearing on a PDF 
created by cfdocument. 

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RE: CFMX 7 - Jrun 100%

2007-10-24 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear
Many thanks all for replies on this.

It turned out to be a rogue app messing up Jrun.

I uploaded the cfide from another server and all appears to be well.

Jenny

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Sent: 23 October 2007 17:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 7 - Jrun 100%


Lots of things could cause JRun to max out, including but not limited
too; bad code or client variable clean up.

Check your logs to see what's going on.

No, you don't need to have CF6 installed to upgrade to 7. After you
stick in your CF7 upgrade key, the install process should detect it's
an upgrade and simply ask for your CF6 license key.

Andy

On 23/10/2007, Jenny Gavin-Wear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm running CFMX 7 on a Windows 2003 Server - Standard Edition.

 I upgraded from MX 6 using the upgrade procedure during the MX7 install.

 After installing, I disabled MX6 in services.

 All has been running great for some months now, at least 6.

 My problem is that the jrun.exe process has suddenly started running at
98%
 plus.

 I recalled this was a problem with MX6 so I decided to uninstall MX6, as
I'm
 no longer using it.  This promptly removed my cfide directories :/

 I then tried reinstalling CFMX7 assuming this would give me the CFIDE, at
 which point I got a message suggesting that for an upgrade, the CFMX6
needs
 to be intalled.

 So, I have two questions:

 1.  What could be causing Jrun to be running at 98%+ ?

 2.  Do I HAVE to have CFMX6 installed to run my upgrade edition of MX7?

 Many thanks,

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RE: Coldfusion hosting recomendation ?

2007-10-24 Thread Michael Appenzellar
Check out EdgeWeb Hosting. The only way to go!

-Original Message- 
From: Dan Crouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sun 10/21/2007 7:20 PM 
To: CF-Talk 
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Subject: Re: Coldfusion hosting recomendation ?



I use CFDynamics for hosting a dedicated server as well. We have been 
with them for almost a year now and have had no problems. Speed for me has been 
excellent. The only complaint I have is that sometimes it seems like they 
shuffle some questions internally amongst the sales or support departments and 
they arent sure whose responsibility certain questions should go to. So 
sometimes it takes longer to get a question answered than I think it should. 
But I have never had an actual technical problem with the server or the network 
itself, it just seems like there is a slight problem with the way they are 
organized. It has never made me look for another host, I just think they could 
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Returning and object from a Web Service

2007-10-24 Thread Dean Lawrence
When calling a web service that I created (which is being used as a
gateway), if I try to return an object I get an error that states
org.xml.sax.SAXException: No deserializer for and then my object
name. If I get the object and then return individual values from that
object, it works fine. But if I try to return the whole object, I get
the error.

From Googling, I believe that I somehow have to some additional
reference to the location of the object definition but I don't know
where that would be. In the wsdl file? If this is the case, where in
the file does it go? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Dean

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Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Dominic Watson
Why I believe it to be true (though quite open to it not being the case):

   1. I believe stored procs are generally faster than sending the
   same query to SQL Server due to query optimisation(?)
   2. Less data is being sent to the SQL server
   3. Less CF application process before the code is run on the SQL
   server
   4. WHERE @foo = 0 is a very simple instruction to process and I assume
   the server does a good job of optimising it ( I realise to assume makes an
   ass out of u and me)

Would you think otherwise?
Dom


On 24/10/2007, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I quite often do something similar with stored procs but
  usually with numerical values, i.e. Default them to 0 in the
  proc and do 'where (@foo = 0 OR myCol = @foo)'. I'm quite
  sure that is faster than building a dynamic query and sending
  it to the server.

 Why are you quite sure? Have you done any load testing?

 Very often, things don't work out the way we might expect them to.

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RE: Returning and object from a Web Service

2007-10-24 Thread Brad Wood
What version of CF?
Does the object happen to be a CFC?

CFC's are not serializable in CF  8.

Try returning a struct of values if can.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Returning and object from a Web Service

When calling a web service that I created (which is being used as a
gateway), if I try to return an object I get an error that states
org.xml.sax.SAXException: No deserializer for and then my object
name. If I get the object and then return individual values from that
object, it works fine. But if I try to return the whole object, I get
the error.

From Googling, I believe that I somehow have to some additional
reference to the location of the object definition but I don't know
where that would be. In the wsdl file? If this is the case, where in
the file does it go? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Dean

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RE: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

2007-10-24 Thread Mark A Kruger
Dom,

To know this you have to test. SPs are marginally faster in most cases -
and just like cfqueries  they have to be well written. There is not enough
of a boost in performance  (when comparing SPs to well written queries using
cfqueryparam to bind the data) to make a hard and fast rule that SPs are
best practice in all cases - that's my .02.  

Having said that, in a team enviornment there is some division of labor
benefits. 

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Dominic Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfqueryparam and dynamically-created SQL

Why I believe it to be true (though quite open to it not being the case):

   1. I believe stored procs are generally faster than sending the
   same query to SQL Server due to query optimisation(?)
   2. Less data is being sent to the SQL server
   3. Less CF application process before the code is run on the SQL
   server
   4. WHERE @foo = 0 is a very simple instruction to process and I assume
   the server does a good job of optimising it ( I realise to assume makes
an
   ass out of u and me)

Would you think otherwise?
Dom


On 24/10/2007, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I quite often do something similar with stored procs but usually 
  with numerical values, i.e. Default them to 0 in the proc and do 
  'where (@foo = 0 OR myCol = @foo)'. I'm quite sure that is faster 
  than building a dynamic query and sending it to the server.

 Why are you quite sure? Have you done any load testing?

 Very often, things don't work out the way we might expect them to.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized 
 instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, 
 Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
 Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!


 



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Re: What can PHP do that CF can't?

2007-10-24 Thread Dave l
bobby.. don't pick on Will

...and a laggard in every bunch ;)~

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RE: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

2007-10-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Mark,

I seriously haven't seen this before... Well you learn something new then.

I was aware that anything to do internal would be stopped, but I have never
come across a situation where this has happened.


Andrew Scott
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 5:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldspring error: what does this mean please?

I wish I had kept an eye on this thread!

Apologies to Mike - when working around the 'Disable Access to
ColdFusion Java Objects' setting in CF8, I ran into the issue that you
can't use cfdump on many things.

On some things you can, and on other things you can't.

The reason is this - by turning this setting on there is a security
policy that goes into effect that restricts external access to
anything that is coldfusion.* - which includes trying to access and /
or interogate any class or classpath that uses that space.

If you do a lot of CF/Java integration, you will quickly notice that
you can't get to the CF classPath, if you want it, and trying to call
...getClass() (often through reflection) on CF objects causes the error
that you just saw.

I would expect that CFDUMP does call getClass / does some sort of java
meta data introspection on the objects it is attempting to dump -
which in turn throws this error, as it won't be allowed.

This setting - while essential for Shared Hosts, is a pretty damn big
sword that cuts through many things, including aspects of cfdump,
access to CFCProxy and some other bits and pieces that I can't think
of right now.

I think in the coming months, we're going to hit various pieces of
functionality that will be broken on shared servers because of this
setting.

Mark


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Re: Using ColdFusion to determine if user has Flash player?

2007-10-24 Thread Ron Gowen
Google Analytics will do it for free

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 Anyone know if this is possible through whatever means?

 My company currently uses Browserhawk to detect this, but we'd like to do
 away with BH (and the cost).

 

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CF8 and CFDUMP was: (Re: Coldspring error)

2007-10-24 Thread Mike Kear
This issue has now morphed into another issue.   I was getting an
error which I thought was coldspring-caused but which actually turned
out to be caused by the CFDUMP tag i was using to check the result.

So i set about wanting to get hostmysite to change and allow access to
internal java components in the CF8 only to find that setting is
currently UNCHECKED.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but that means all kinds of CFDUMP should be
allowed, shouldnt they?

What does that mean (if anything) to the theory that my error was
caused by the CFDUMP tag not coldspring?

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
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On 10/25/07, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/24/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok as a test I did what Mike is trying to do here locally.
 
  cfdump works fine with the setting of  Disable access to internal
  ColdFusion Java components.

 You didn't test thoroughly enough. See Mark Mandel's comment: you can
 cfdump *some* things with that setting enabled but not all things.

  So that is not Mikes problem...

 Yup, definitely is.
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Re: Returning and object from a Web Service

2007-10-24 Thread Dean Lawrence
Hi Brad,

I'm running CF8 on Windows 2003 and yes it is a CFC. I can return
structures, arrays, queries and single values, but I can't return the
object itself. I can access the object from within the method and use
it to populate the structures and values, but if I try to just return
the object, it throws the error.

Is there any additional attributes that I need to set to serialize the
CFC in CF8?

Thanks,

Dean

On 10/24/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What version of CF?
 Does the object happen to be a CFC?

 CFC's are not serializable in CF  8.

 Try returning a struct of values if can.

 ~Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:30 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Returning and object from a Web Service

 When calling a web service that I created (which is being used as a
 gateway), if I try to return an object I get an error that states
 org.xml.sax.SAXException: No deserializer for and then my object
 name. If I get the object and then return individual values from that
 object, it works fine. But if I try to return the whole object, I get
 the error.

 From Googling, I believe that I somehow have to some additional
 reference to the location of the object definition but I don't know
 where that would be. In the wsdl file? If this is the case, where in
 the file does it go? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks,

 Dean



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