Re: application.cfm

2011-06-27 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 Or you may simply not want to waste time processing code that's
unnecessary for a specific request.

... and you might even use no onRequestEnd at all ;-)


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Re: application.cfm

2011-06-27 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 Actually cfabort was introduced as a debugging tag.


Really?
Note that I use CFABORT because I was not sure CFCONTENT will cause processing 
to stop.
It is not specified in the docs, but it does, so I could remove the CFABORT tag 
after CFCONTENT

There is still a good reason for CFABORT: stop processing after displaying an 
error message in application.cfm.
This is not debugging, but HTTP request validation.
I have plenty of validation done in application.cfm.


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Re: New fckEditor Issue (maybe?)

2011-06-27 Thread Torrent Girl

is it a nbsp; (non breaking space)
if so then this is put in there so that there is content so that you can
actually click inside the cell to edit. Otherwise if you create a table with
no specific height or width, you cannot select inside it to enter content.





Yes I guess it is a non breaking space. Is there a way to prevent fckEditor 
from adding it? It's breaking code when the page is displayed. 

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CF Spredsheet problem

2011-06-27 Thread Jerome Huff

I am reading a excel .xls file with cfspreadsheet  
action=read 
src = inv00075.xls 
sheet=1
query = the_data 
, 
I am trying to extract several dates and a dollar amount.  The data that ends 
up in the query for dates is suppose to be a count of days since jan 1 1900, so 
I use a date add (Where P is equal to the query column) cfset period_e_day = 
#dateadd('D',P,1 jan 1900)# this results with a date that is off by two 
days...  Any ideas why the dates a re consistenly off by two days?
CF 9, windows server 2008, Oracle 11 is the system set-up 

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Serving Up LOB Content

2011-06-27 Thread Robert Nurse

Hi All,

I've written an application where the user can store Office 2007 attachments in 
an Oracle table.  When requesting the attachment, I have a CFM template 
(displayAttachment.cfm) that retrieves and serves up the attachment from the 
table.  The app works fine except for a minor glitch.  IE sees the mime type 
and tries to process, e.g., displayAttachment.xlsx (in the case of XLSX files) 
which is fine.  But, FireFox sees displayAttachment.cfm and tries to open that 
when Open is selected on the Open... dialog box.  In my case, it opens the 
attachment content in Dreamweaver.  Who knows what it tries to use on users' 
machines.  Is there a way of altering the headers to say that 
displayAttachment.extensionOfAttachment is coming instead of 
displayAttachment.cfm so the proper application launches? 

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Re: Serving Up LOB Content

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 I've written an application where the user can store Office 2007 attachments 
 in an Oracle table.  When requesting the
 attachment, I have a CFM template (displayAttachment.cfm) that retrieves and 
 serves up the attachment from the table.
 The app works fine except for a minor glitch.  IE sees the mime type and 
 tries to process, e.g., displayAttachment.xlsx
 (in the case of XLSX files) which is fine.  But, FireFox sees 
 displayAttachment.cfm and tries to open that when Open
 is selected on the Open... dialog box.  In my case, it opens the attachment 
 content in Dreamweaver.  Who knows what
 it tries to use on users' machines.  Is there a way of altering the headers 
 to say that displayAttachment.extensionOfAttachment
 is coming instead of displayAttachment.cfm so the proper application launches?

You can use the Content-Disposition header:

cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=inline; filename=#yourFileName#

or

cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=attachment;
filename=#yourFileName#

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Convesion from MSWord to pdf

2011-06-27 Thread Claude Schnéegans

CFDOCUMENT allows for conversion from MSword to a pdf.

Any one having experience with this?
Any problem or restriction?
Does it supports 2007 format (docx)?

Thanks.

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Re: Serving Up LOB Content

2011-06-27 Thread Robert Nurse

 You can use the Content-Disposition header:
 
 cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=inline; 
 filename=#yourFileName#
 
 or
 
 cfheader name=Content-Disposition value=attachment;
 filename=#yourFileName#
 

Thanks Dave!  That worked!  Here's the solution:

cfcontent type=#myquery.mimetype#
cfheader name=Content-Disposition 
value=inline;filename=attachment.#myquery.extension#cfoutput 
query=myquery#ToString(blobdata)#/cfoutput


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complex string split

2011-06-27 Thread Richard White

Hi,

we have a string such as the following:

'word1 word2 word3 and word 4 word5 word6'

we need to split the string into an array with the following criteria:

- if any part of the string is inside double quotes then this is 1 array element
- else each individual word is 1 array element

therefore the string above would be broken down as follows:

[1] = word1
[2] = word2
[3] = word3 and word4
[4] = word5
[5] = word6

an arraytolist can be used with space as the delimiter for the words but this 
of course would conflict with the double quotes, what would be the best way to 
achieve this?

thanks for your help 

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Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

I am trying to find the form field names in a PDF.  I was reading through 
cfpdfform and it says to get the structure do this:

To verify the structure of a PDF form in ColdFusion, use the read action of 
cfpdfform tag, and then use the cfdump tag to display the result structure.

For some reason I just can't work that out in my head, welcome to Monday 
right...

Can someone please help me out here LOL  

Just for the example, say the pdf file is test.pdf.

ALSO, if I am going about this incorrectly, please point me in the right 
direction please LOL


-K 



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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Wil Genovese

Try this

cfpdfform action=read source=mydocument.pdf xmldata=pdfFieldsxml 
result=pdfFields/cfpdfform
cfdump var=#pdfFields#


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On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Ken Hammond wrote:

 
 I am trying to find the form field names in a PDF.  I was reading through 
 cfpdfform and it says to get the structure do this:
 
 To verify the structure of a PDF form in ColdFusion, use the read action of 
 cfpdfform tag, and then use the cfdump tag to display the result structure.
 
 For some reason I just can't work that out in my head, welcome to Monday 
 right...
 
 Can someone please help me out here LOL  
 
 Just for the example, say the pdf file is test.pdf.
 
 ALSO, if I am going about this incorrectly, please point me in the right 
 direction please LOL
 
 
 -K 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

 For some reason I just can't work that out in my head,
 welcome to Monday 
 right...

I would ask what did you do this weekend? But my brain is not faring much 
better today ;-)

 Just for the example, say the pdf file is test.pdf.

cfpdfform action=read source=c:/path/test.pdf result=data /
cfdump var=#data#


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Re: complex string split

2011-06-27 Thread Russ Michaels

You could Use REFind() to extract the strings in quotes first.
Then you can use ListToArray() on what's left


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote:


 Hi,

 we have a string such as the following:

 'word1 word2 word3 and word 4 word5 word6'

 we need to split the string into an array with the following criteria:

 - if any part of the string is inside double quotes then this is 1 array
 element
 - else each individual word is 1 array element

 therefore the string above would be broken down as follows:

 [1] = word1
 [2] = word2
 [3] = word3 and word4
 [4] = word5
 [5] = word6

 an arraytolist can be used with space as the delimiter for the words but
 this of course would conflict with the double quotes, what would be the best
 way to achieve this?

 thanks for your help

 

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Re: New fckEditor Issue (maybe?)

2011-06-27 Thread Russ Michaels

take a look here
http://docs.cksource.com/

anything that can be modified should be documented here.
If you cannot find a way to do it then you could always strip out the non
breaking spaces form the content after it is submitted

Russ


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Torrent Girl moniqueb...@gmail.com wrote:


 is it a nbsp; (non breaking space)
 if so then this is put in there so that there is content so that you can
 actually click inside the cell to edit. Otherwise if you create a table
 with
 no specific height or width, you cannot select inside it to enter content.
 
 
 
 

 Yes I guess it is a non breaking space. Is there a way to prevent fckEditor
 from adding it? It's breaking code when the page is displayed.

 

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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

Worked like a charm, thanks!
 

-Original Message-
From: Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:46:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


Try this

cfpdfform action=read source=mydocument.pdf xmldata=pdfFieldsxml 
result=pdfFields/cfpdfform
cfdump var=#pdfFields#


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Systems Administrator
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On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Ken Hammond wrote:

 
 I am trying to find the form field names in a PDF.  I was reading through 
 cfpdfform and it says to get the structure do this:
 
 To verify the structure of a PDF form in ColdFusion, use the read action 
of 
 cfpdfform tag, and then use the cfdump tag to display the result 
structure.
 
 For some reason I just can't work that out in my head, welcome to Monday 
 right...
 
 Can someone please help me out here LOL  
 
 Just for the example, say the pdf file is test.pdf.
 
 ALSO, if I am going about this incorrectly, please point me in the right 
 direction please LOL
 
 
 -K 
 
 
 
 



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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

Wil beat ya to the punch :-)

and... last night was the first night of True Blood Season 4...  My wife 
made me stay up and watch it and then watch the next week's episode on HBO 
GO online after that LOL  Then of course I was awake after that and it took 
forever to fall asleep!
 

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To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:46:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


 For some reason I just can't work that out in my head,
 welcome to Monday 
 right...

I would ask what did you do this weekend? But my brain is not faring much 
better today ;-)

 Just for the example, say the pdf file is test.pdf.

cfpdfform action=read source=c:/path/test.pdf result=data /
cfdump var=#data#




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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

Ok, Bryan... time for some questions about AIR.

(I'm reading over the Adobe site concerning AIR, but
wanted to ask an advocate, as well...)

First question is, how can AIR apps run on iOS?
Isn't the output Flash based, which won't play on iOS?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:17 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Need some perspective...


Well Rick...one browser if you will...AIR ;-)

On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 09:46 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Thanks for the feedback, Maureen.
 
 I know how you feel. I wish we could just
 have one browser to rule them all. I don't
 even want to think about how good that would be...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:56 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Need some perspective...
 
 
 Exactly my findings.  There are still enough desktop users with
 non-compliant browsers that HTML/CSS3 are problematic.  I'm currently
 refactoring all my sites for new technologies, attempting to make them
 both fully assessable for screen reader/text browsers and for mobile
 browsers.  I'm doing a lot of detection and loading code and style
 sheets based on what browser is being used, but it's a steady pain to
 keep up with what works and what doesn't.  When I get really grumpy,
 my urge is to just feed a text based site to anyone using IE with a
 note at the top that says if you want to see the pretty stuff, get a
 real browser.
 
 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Rick Faircloth
  r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
  To us or not to use HTML5 and CSS3 in desktop
  and mobile development.
 
  This came up in a few sessions at JAXconf this week. The general
  consensus seemed to be that HTML5 / CSS3 is a solid bet for mobile -
  because mobile browsers offer solid support already. The same is not
  true on the desktop, unless you're prepared to encourage your users
  to upgrade / switch browsers.
 
 
 
 



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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

I had the exact same question!
 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:08:39 -0400
Subject: RE: Need some perspective...


Ok, Bryan... time for some questions about AIR.

(I'm reading over the Adobe site concerning AIR, but
wanted to ask an advocate, as well...)

First question is, how can AIR apps run on iOS?
Isn't the output Flash based, which won't play on iOS?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:17 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Need some perspective...


Well Rick...one browser if you will...AIR ;-)

On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 09:46 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Thanks for the feedback, Maureen.
 
 I know how you feel. I wish we could just
 have one browser to rule them all. I don't
 even want to think about how good that would be...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:56 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Need some perspective...
 
 
 Exactly my findings.  There are still enough desktop users with
 non-compliant browsers that HTML/CSS3 are problematic.  I'm currently
 refactoring all my sites for new technologies, attempting to make them
 both fully assessable for screen reader/text browsers and for mobile
 browsers.  I'm doing a lot of detection and loading code and style
 sheets based on what browser is being used, but it's a steady pain to
 keep up with what works and what doesn't.  When I get really grumpy,
 my urge is to just feed a text based site to anyone using IE with a
 note at the top that says if you want to see the pretty stuff, get a
 real browser.
 
 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Rick Faircloth
  r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
  To us or not to use HTML5 and CSS3 in desktop
  and mobile development.
 
  This came up in a few sessions at JAXconf this week. The general
  consensus seemed to be that HTML5 / CSS3 is a solid bet for mobile -
  because mobile browsers offer solid support already. The same is not
  true on the desktop, unless you're prepared to encourage your users
  to upgrade / switch browsers.
 
 
 
 





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Re: complex string split

2011-06-27 Thread Richard White

thanks, the following works fine:

cfset result = REMatch('\w+|[\w\s]*','word1 word2 word3 and word 4 word5 
word6') /

You could Use REFind() to extract the strings in quotes first.
Then you can use ListToArray() on what's left




 

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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Hey Rick,

AIR apps can be converted to run on iOS.  I'm pretty sure that is using
a tool in CS 5.  Apple tried to kill that, but eventually allowed for
converted code instead of natively written Ojective C.

They can also be exported to run on Android (which is why we are using
it).

.and as an added bonus...if you learn AIR, you're learninga  whole
lot about FLEX at the same time (AIR essentially adds functionality on
top of FLEX.things like local file system access and other things a
standard web app can't do).

As with any other decision.best tool for the job.

The way we see it here is it is one tool for multiple platforms...and
that should save time (and no time wasted getting that pixel perfect
cross-browser user experiencewhich I LOVE).

Cheers

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:08 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Ok, Bryan... time for some questions about AIR.
 
 (I'm reading over the Adobe site concerning AIR, but
 wanted to ask an advocate, as well...)
 
 First question is, how can AIR apps run on iOS?
 Isn't the output Flash based, which won't play on iOS?
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:17 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Need some perspective...
 
 
 Well Rick...one browser if you will...AIR ;-)
 
 On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 09:46 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:
 
  Thanks for the feedback, Maureen.
  
  I know how you feel. I wish we could just
  have one browser to rule them all. I don't
  even want to think about how good that would be...
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:56 AM
  To: cf-talk
  Subject: Re: Need some perspective...
  
  
  Exactly my findings.  There are still enough desktop users with
  non-compliant browsers that HTML/CSS3 are problematic.  I'm currently
  refactoring all my sites for new technologies, attempting to make them
  both fully assessable for screen reader/text browsers and for mobile
  browsers.  I'm doing a lot of detection and loading code and style
  sheets based on what browser is being used, but it's a steady pain to
  keep up with what works and what doesn't.  When I get really grumpy,
  my urge is to just feed a text based site to anyone using IE with a
  note at the top that says if you want to see the pretty stuff, get a
  real browser.
  
  On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Rick Faircloth
   r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
   To us or not to use HTML5 and CSS3 in desktop
   and mobile development.
  
   This came up in a few sessions at JAXconf this week. The general
   consensus seemed to be that HTML5 / CSS3 is a solid bet for mobile -
   because mobile browsers offer solid support already. The same is not
   true on the desktop, unless you're prepared to encourage your users
   to upgrade / switch browsers.
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

I have to admit, the pixel perfect, cross-browser user experience
is *really* compelling.

I've been developing websites/web applications for a decade, and now
that I'm having to throw mobile development into that mix, it's just
a little short of insane for a one-man development team. :o)

One immediate comment concerns using a tool in CS 5.  Is that tool
for creating iOS AIR apps only available if I purchase CS 5? At a
cost of at *least* $1300 and as much as $2600, that's a lot to pay
for a conversion tool.


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:15 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Need some perspective...


Hey Rick,

AIR apps can be converted to run on iOS.  I'm pretty sure that is using
a tool in CS 5.  Apple tried to kill that, but eventually allowed for
converted code instead of natively written Ojective C.

They can also be exported to run on Android (which is why we are using
it).

.and as an added bonus...if you learn AIR, you're learninga  whole
lot about FLEX at the same time (AIR essentially adds functionality on
top of FLEX.things like local file system access and other things a
standard web app can't do).

As with any other decision.best tool for the job.

The way we see it here is it is one tool for multiple platforms...and
that should save time (and no time wasted getting that pixel perfect
cross-browser user experiencewhich I LOVE).

Cheers

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:08 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Ok, Bryan... time for some questions about AIR.
 
 (I'm reading over the Adobe site concerning AIR, but
 wanted to ask an advocate, as well...)
 
 First question is, how can AIR apps run on iOS?
 Isn't the output Flash based, which won't play on iOS?
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:17 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Need some perspective...
 
 
 Well Rick...one browser if you will...AIR ;-)
 
 On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 09:46 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:
 
  Thanks for the feedback, Maureen.
  
  I know how you feel. I wish we could just
  have one browser to rule them all. I don't
  even want to think about how good that would be...
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:56 AM
  To: cf-talk
  Subject: Re: Need some perspective...
  
  
  Exactly my findings.  There are still enough desktop users with
  non-compliant browsers that HTML/CSS3 are problematic.  I'm currently
  refactoring all my sites for new technologies, attempting to make them
  both fully assessable for screen reader/text browsers and for mobile
  browsers.  I'm doing a lot of detection and loading code and style
  sheets based on what browser is being used, but it's a steady pain to
  keep up with what works and what doesn't.  When I get really grumpy,
  my urge is to just feed a text based site to anyone using IE with a
  note at the top that says if you want to see the pretty stuff, get a
  real browser.
  
  On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Rick Faircloth
   r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
   To us or not to use HTML5 and CSS3 in desktop
   and mobile development.
  
   This came up in a few sessions at JAXconf this week. The general
   consensus seemed to be that HTML5 / CSS3 is a solid bet for mobile -
   because mobile browsers offer solid support already. The same is not
   true on the desktop, unless you're prepared to encourage your users
   to upgrade / switch browsers.
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 



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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

 ... My wife 
 made me stay up and watch it and then watch the next week's
 episode on HBO 
 GO online after that  

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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Hey Rick,

Yeahsimilar boat here.  Tried AIR for use onboard commercial fishing
vessel PCsworks great!  Now we're heading to mobile dev and have
done some basic prelim stuff using Flash Builder 4.5
(Burrito)amazing how fast you can put together a basic app.  We did
a sample using the Twitter API.shows top trending subjectsthen
press a subject to see it's tweetsthen press a tweet to see details
about it's origin.  All that took about 30-45 mins once we knew how the
API worked.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure which part of CS 5 (we're targeting Android
first so haven't investigated fully)..but I do know the tool is not
just a converter.  Even if it was, I'd argue the time saved not writing
for iOS and then again for Android would be worth it ;-)

So it may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it sure impressed me (and
those that know me know how picky I am)!

Cheers

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:39 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 I have to admit, the pixel perfect, cross-browser user experience
 is *really* compelling.
 
 I've been developing websites/web applications for a decade, and now
 that I'm having to throw mobile development into that mix, it's just
 a little short of insane for a one-man development team. :o)
 
 One immediate comment concerns using a tool in CS 5.  Is that tool
 for creating iOS AIR apps only available if I purchase CS 5? At a
 cost of at *least* $1300 and as much as $2600, that's a lot to pay
 for a conversion tool.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:15 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Need some perspective...
 
 
 Hey Rick,
 
 AIR apps can be converted to run on iOS.  I'm pretty sure that is using
 a tool in CS 5.  Apple tried to kill that, but eventually allowed for
 converted code instead of natively written Ojective C.
 
 They can also be exported to run on Android (which is why we are using
 it).
 
 .and as an added bonus...if you learn AIR, you're learninga  whole
 lot about FLEX at the same time (AIR essentially adds functionality on
 top of FLEX.things like local file system access and other things a
 standard web app can't do).
 
 As with any other decision.best tool for the job.
 
 The way we see it here is it is one tool for multiple platforms...and
 that should save time (and no time wasted getting that pixel perfect
 cross-browser user experiencewhich I LOVE).
 
 Cheers
 
 On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:08 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:
 
  Ok, Bryan... time for some questions about AIR.
  
  (I'm reading over the Adobe site concerning AIR, but
  wanted to ask an advocate, as well...)
  
  First question is, how can AIR apps run on iOS?
  Isn't the output Flash based, which won't play on iOS?
  
  Rick
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:17 PM
  To: cf-talk
  Subject: RE: Need some perspective...
  
  
  Well Rick...one browser if you will...AIR ;-)
  
  On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 09:46 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:
  
   Thanks for the feedback, Maureen.
   
   I know how you feel. I wish we could just
   have one browser to rule them all. I don't
   even want to think about how good that would be...
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
   Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:56 AM
   To: cf-talk
   Subject: Re: Need some perspective...
   
   
   Exactly my findings.  There are still enough desktop users with
   non-compliant browsers that HTML/CSS3 are problematic.  I'm currently
   refactoring all my sites for new technologies, attempting to make them
   both fully assessable for screen reader/text browsers and for mobile
   browsers.  I'm doing a lot of detection and loading code and style
   sheets based on what browser is being used, but it's a steady pain to
   keep up with what works and what doesn't.  When I get really grumpy,
   my urge is to just feed a text based site to anyone using IE with a
   note at the top that says if you want to see the pretty stuff, get a
   real browser.
   
   On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
To us or not to use HTML5 and CSS3 in desktop
and mobile development.
   
This came up in a few sessions at JAXconf this week. The general
consensus seemed to be that HTML5 / CSS3 is a solid bet for mobile -
because mobile browsers offer solid support already. The same is not
true on the desktop, unless you're prepared to encourage your users
to upgrade / switch browsers.
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

Ok... thanks for that. (as Chris Wallace says on Fox News Sunday... too
often used to end his segments! :o)

Another question, however, is raised by your comments.  Since AIR
worked so well for the commercial fishing app, why are you transitioning
to Flash Builder for mobile dev?

I just want *one* platform to develop on for everything I do.  Is AIR
not capable of doing some things that Flash Builder can do?  (I've hated
Flash for the last 10+ years, ever since it was just a fancy graphics
animation tool.) Great stuff could be done with Flash animation, but
nothing I could make money with. (Did I mention I have a biased, perhaps
undue, hatred for Flash? :o)


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:50 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Need some perspective...


Hey Rick,

Yeahsimilar boat here.  Tried AIR for use onboard commercial fishing
vessel PCsworks great!  Now we're heading to mobile dev and have
done some basic prelim stuff using Flash Builder 4.5
(Burrito)amazing how fast you can put together a basic app.  We did
a sample using the Twitter API.shows top trending subjectsthen
press a subject to see it's tweetsthen press a tweet to see details
about it's origin.  All that took about 30-45 mins once we knew how the
API worked.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure which part of CS 5 (we're targeting Android
first so haven't investigated fully)..but I do know the tool is not
just a converter.  Even if it was, I'd argue the time saved not writing
for iOS and then again for Android would be worth it ;-)

So it may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it sure impressed me (and
those that know me know how picky I am)!

Cheers

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:39 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 I have to admit, the pixel perfect, cross-browser user experience
 is *really* compelling.
 
 I've been developing websites/web applications for a decade, and now
 that I'm having to throw mobile development into that mix, it's just
 a little short of insane for a one-man development team. :o)
 
 One immediate comment concerns using a tool in CS 5.  Is that tool
 for creating iOS AIR apps only available if I purchase CS 5? At a
 cost of at *least* $1300 and as much as $2600, that's a lot to pay
 for a conversion tool.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:15 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Need some perspective...
 
 
 Hey Rick,
 
 AIR apps can be converted to run on iOS.  I'm pretty sure that is using
 a tool in CS 5.  Apple tried to kill that, but eventually allowed for
 converted code instead of natively written Ojective C.
 
 They can also be exported to run on Android (which is why we are using
 it).
 
 .and as an added bonus...if you learn AIR, you're learninga  whole
 lot about FLEX at the same time (AIR essentially adds functionality on
 top of FLEX.things like local file system access and other things a
 standard web app can't do).
 
 As with any other decision.best tool for the job.
 
 The way we see it here is it is one tool for multiple platforms...and
 that should save time (and no time wasted getting that pixel perfect
 cross-browser user experiencewhich I LOVE).
 
 Cheers
 
 On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:08 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:
 
  Ok, Bryan... time for some questions about AIR.
  
  (I'm reading over the Adobe site concerning AIR, but
  wanted to ask an advocate, as well...)
  
  First question is, how can AIR apps run on iOS?
  Isn't the output Flash based, which won't play on iOS?
  
  Rick
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:17 PM
  To: cf-talk
  Subject: RE: Need some perspective...
  
  
  Well Rick...one browser if you will...AIR ;-)
  
  On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 09:46 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:
  
   Thanks for the feedback, Maureen.
   
   I know how you feel. I wish we could just
   have one browser to rule them all. I don't
   even want to think about how good that would be...
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
   Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:56 AM
   To: cf-talk
   Subject: Re: Need some perspective...
   
   
   Exactly my findings.  There are still enough desktop users with
   non-compliant browsers that HTML/CSS3 are problematic.  I'm currently
   refactoring all my sites for new technologies, attempting to make them
   both fully assessable for screen reader/text browsers and for mobile
   browsers.  I'm doing a lot of detection and loading code and style
   sheets based on what browser is being used, but it's a steady pain to
   keep up with what works and what doesn't.  When I get really grumpy,
   my urge is to just feed a text based site to anyone using IE with a
   note at the top that says if you want to see the pretty stuff, get a
   real browser.
   

RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

AIR and Flex are both done in Flash Builder.

AIR is Flex code with extra functionality.

You can buy Flash Builder (Adobe purpose built Eclipse app) OR buy the
Eclipse plugin (which is essentially the same thingbut allows for CF
coding at the same time via CFEclipse)

So there we are not transitioning.it's still AIRyou can build
mobile or desktop apps with it.just a rather unfortunate IDE
nameFlash Builder ;-)

BTWsame issues with Flash in the past (damn that timeline)and
didn't like early Flex due to the HUGE cost (now free).

Hope that clears things upone ring to rule them all ;-)

Cheers


On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 13:01 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Ok... thanks for that. (as Chris Wallace says on Fox News Sunday... too
 often used to end his segments! :o)
 
 Another question, however, is raised by your comments.  Since AIR
 worked so well for the commercial fishing app, why are you transitioning
 to Flash Builder for mobile dev?
 
 I just want *one* platform to develop on for everything I do.  Is AIR
 not capable of doing some things that Flash Builder can do?  (I've hated
 Flash for the last 10+ years, ever since it was just a fancy graphics
 animation tool.) Great stuff could be done with Flash animation, but
 nothing I could make money with. (Did I mention I have a biased, perhaps
 undue, hatred for Flash? :o)

-- 


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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 Another question, however, is raised by your comments.  Since AIR
 worked so well for the commercial fishing app, why are you transitioning
 to Flash Builder for mobile dev?

Flash Builder lets you build Flex apps that target AIR. You don't need
Flash Builder for this: you can use other tools to build Flex apps
that target AIR, or you can build HTML/JS apps that target AIR.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Ohand Flex as a web app with CF as the backendnow you're talkin!

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 You can buy Flash Builder (Adobe purpose built Eclipse app) OR buy the
 Eclipse plugin (which is essentially the same thingbut allows for CF
 coding at the same time via CFEclipse)

I'm pretty sure you can install the CFEclipse plugin into the
standalone Flash Builder. You can install most plugins into it - it's
just the Flash Builder plugin with a specific version of Eclipse
bundled together.

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Tutorials using CF Builder 2

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

I'm surprised by the lack (as in, couldn't find
even one!) of tutorials that utilize CF Builder.

Plenty of tutorials that utilize Dreamweaver, but
none that I saw after searching the Adobe site
that use CF Builder.

Several tutorials show *how* to use CF Builder, but
none, such as, Building Website with HTML5 and CSS3
that don't use Dreamweaver.

What's up with that?  I'd think CF Builder, by now,
would have some tutorials produced by Adobe, as they
have with Dreamweaver...



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Re: Tutorials using CF Builder 2

2011-06-27 Thread Wil Genovese

The Start Page in ColdFusion Builder 2 has many of such resources.

This blog post of mine details these.

http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2011/3/25/Getting-Started-ColdFusion-Builder-2



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On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 
 I'm surprised by the lack (as in, couldn't find
 even one!) of tutorials that utilize CF Builder.
 
 Plenty of tutorials that utilize Dreamweaver, but
 none that I saw after searching the Adobe site
 that use CF Builder.
 
 Several tutorials show *how* to use CF Builder, but
 none, such as, Building Website with HTML5 and CSS3
 that don't use Dreamweaver.
 
 What's up with that?  I'd think CF Builder, by now,
 would have some tutorials produced by Adobe, as they
 have with Dreamweaver...
 
 
 
 

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Really Dave?  that would be cool as we bought FlashBuilder licences and
not the plugin ;-)

Thanks for the tip!

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 13:14 -0400, Dave Watts wrote:

  You can buy Flash Builder (Adobe purpose built Eclipse app) OR buy the
  Eclipse plugin (which is essentially the same thingbut allows for CF
  coding at the same time via CFEclipse)
 
 I'm pretty sure you can install the CFEclipse plugin into the
 standalone Flash Builder. You can install most plugins into it - it's
 just the Flash Builder plugin with a specific version of Eclipse
 bundled together.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
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 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

Anyone making use of CFB2's AIR Project presets?
I looked to see if CFB2 has anything to do with AIR
and found the New AIR Project choice.

And I would definitely rather use HTML5/CSS3/jQuery
to build apps than learn yet another language than
delve into another language, which seems to be an approach
option for building AIR apps, based on what I've read
on Adobe's site.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:14 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Need some perspective...


 You can buy Flash Builder (Adobe purpose built Eclipse app) OR buy the
 Eclipse plugin (which is essentially the same thingbut allows for CF
 coding at the same time via CFEclipse)

I'm pretty sure you can install the CFEclipse plugin into the
standalone Flash Builder. You can install most plugins into it - it's
just the Flash Builder plugin with a specific version of Eclipse
bundled together.

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http://www.figleaf.com/
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Re: complex string split

2011-06-27 Thread Richard White

the only issue with this regular expression is if the user tries to put any 
non-alphanumeric symbol in the string such as 'word-1' or 'word*1'. 

how can i amend the regular expression to allow for any of these characters:

we tried '[/w-/W]+|[\w\s-/W]*' but then it ignores the splitting on the 
double quotes

thanks



 thanks, the following works fine:
 
 cfset result = REMatch('\w+|[\w\s]*','word1 word2 word3 and word 
 4 word5 word6') /
 
 You could Use REFind() to extract the strings in quotes first.
 Then you can use ListToArray() on what's left
 
 
 
 
  

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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

Now here's an example I would point to concerning the difficulty
I would have even getting past consideration of using Adobe's
technologies.  Take this presentation/tutorial on Adobe's site,
for example:

...Tim Buntel explains the data-centric features in Flash Builder 4
and shows how developers can use both Flash Builder and ColdFusion
to create Flex applications.

Three different technologies mentioned in one statement.  Learn
Flash Builder 4 and the ColdFusion language to be able to create
a Flex application.  Sounds too convoluted, to me.

Too many diverse technologies?  Confusing to those considering
using Adobe's products?  AIR, Flash, Flex, ColdFusion, etc?
Dreamweaver or Flash Builder, or perhaps ColdFusion Builder?
I'm glad I'm not just starting out in this, trying to decide
what to use to make a living.



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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:19 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Need some perspective...


Really Dave?  that would be cool as we bought FlashBuilder licences and
not the plugin ;-)

Thanks for the tip!

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 13:14 -0400, Dave Watts wrote:

  You can buy Flash Builder (Adobe purpose built Eclipse app) OR buy the
  Eclipse plugin (which is essentially the same thingbut allows for CF
  coding at the same time via CFEclipse)
 
 I'm pretty sure you can install the CFEclipse plugin into the
 standalone Flash Builder. You can install most plugins into it - it's
 just the Flash Builder plugin with a specific version of Eclipse
 bundled together.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
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 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

All I can say Rick is that if you can write CF you can handle
Flex/AIR.MXML is tag based an fairly obvious 9tag names and
attribute names are very familiar)and ActionScript 3 is based on
ECMA (same as JavaScript is).

We learned on the fly and that code is in PRODthat's how easy we
found it.

...but heyeach to their ownit's what does the trick for you ;-)

Have a look for the Flex in a Week video series at Adobemaybe that
will give you the peek under the hood to show you it's pretty easy to
pick up

Cheers

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 13:19 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Anyone making use of CFB2's AIR Project presets?
 I looked to see if CFB2 has anything to do with AIR
 and found the New AIR Project choice.
 
 And I would definitely rather use HTML5/CSS3/jQuery
 to build apps than learn yet another language than
 delve into another language, which seems to be an approach
 option for building AIR apps, based on what I've read
 on Adobe's site.

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 Now here's an example I would point to concerning the difficulty
 I would have even getting past consideration of using Adobe's
 technologies.  Take this presentation/tutorial on Adobe's site,
 for example:

 ...Tim Buntel explains the data-centric features in Flash Builder 4
 and shows how developers can use both Flash Builder and ColdFusion
 to create Flex applications.

 Three different technologies mentioned in one statement.  Learn
 Flash Builder 4 and the ColdFusion language to be able to create
 a Flex application.  Sounds too convoluted, to me.

 Too many diverse technologies?  Confusing to those considering
 using Adobe's products?  AIR, Flash, Flex, ColdFusion, etc?
 Dreamweaver or Flash Builder, or perhaps ColdFusion Builder?
 I'm glad I'm not just starting out in this, trying to decide
 what to use to make a living.

I don't know what kind of response you hope for here. Programming is
complicated. Client-server programming is more complicated. Web
programming (being a specific subset of client-server programming) is
arguably more complicated still. And yet, I think all of them are
simpler than building console applications in assembler, which is a
much less complex environment overall.

Would you find this confusing?

... how developers can use an editor and a server-side scripting
language to build web applications ...

Because that's basically the same as this:

... how developers can use both Flash Builder and ColdFusion to create
Flex applications ...

And of course, to build applications that are just ColdFusion, you
have to know a lot of things already - relational databases, HTML,
HTTP, maybe JavaScript and CSS.

You seem to want things to be not only simpler than they are, but
simpler than they can be.

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Re: Problem with pound signs

2011-06-27 Thread Steven Durette

I tried it out. It works sort-of. It only lists the first time the single pound 
sign happened. While this identifies the file you have to rescan just to find 
the next error. 

Someone else mentioned that manually fixing would be boring and tedious. I 
agree with that but when one programmer decides to do a mass search and replace 
and totally destroys a code base, then management directs you to do it by hand. 
:(

Steve

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 I'll forgive you - once. ;)
 
 I'm still waiting to here back from Steven to see if this method worked for 
 him.
 
 


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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Well Adobe does a horrible job of explaining anything IMHO.

You do not have to use CF.the reality is you can use PHP/.NET/CF and
more with Flex (or none).  To me that makes it (pardon the pun)
Flexibile ;-)

Againall I can say is how easy it really is (and how complicated
Adobe makes it sound).

BTW...it mentions 2 technologies...CF and Flex (again Flash Builder is
for Flex/AIR app development

Cheers


On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 13:31 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Now here's an example I would point to concerning the difficulty
 I would have even getting past consideration of using Adobe's
 technologies.  Take this presentation/tutorial on Adobe's site,
 for example:
 
 ...Tim Buntel explains the data-centric features in Flash Builder 4
 and shows how developers can use both Flash Builder and ColdFusion
 to create Flex applications.
 
 Three different technologies mentioned in one statement.  Learn
 Flash Builder 4 and the ColdFusion language to be able to create
 a Flex application.  Sounds too convoluted, to me.
 
 Too many diverse technologies?  Confusing to those considering
 using Adobe's products?  AIR, Flash, Flex, ColdFusion, etc?
 Dreamweaver or Flash Builder, or perhaps ColdFusion Builder?
 I'm glad I'm not just starting out in this, trying to decide
 what to use to make a living.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:19 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Need some perspective...
 
 
 Really Dave?  that would be cool as we bought FlashBuilder licences and
 not the plugin ;-)
 
 Thanks for the tip!
 
 On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 13:14 -0400, Dave Watts wrote:
 
   You can buy Flash Builder (Adobe purpose built Eclipse app) OR buy the
   Eclipse plugin (which is essentially the same thingbut allows for CF
   coding at the same time via CFEclipse)
  
  I'm pretty sure you can install the CFEclipse plugin into the
  standalone Flash Builder. You can install most plugins into it - it's
  just the Flash Builder plugin with a specific version of Eclipse
  bundled together.
  
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  http://training.figleaf.com/
  
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  instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 Really Dave?  that would be cool as we bought FlashBuilder licences and
 not the plugin ;-)

 Thanks for the tip!

In addition, I think you can use the same serial number whether you
download the standard FB installer or the Eclipse plugin. I know it
used to be this way, as I'd install both on training room machines.

One potential problem with installing plugins on the standard FB
install is that it comes with an older version of Eclipse.

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Re: Problem with pound signs

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 Someone else mentioned that manually fixing would be boring and tedious. I 
 agree with that but when one programmer
 decides to do a mass search and replace and totally destroys a code base, 
 then management directs you to do it by hand. :(

backup and restore?

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Re: Problem with pound signs

2011-06-27 Thread Steven Durette

Yeah but for us that involved getting another group involved and lots of 
programmer down-time. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:

 
 Someone else mentioned that manually fixing would be boring and tedious. I 
 agree with that but when one programmer
 decides to do a mass search and replace and totally destroys a code base, 
 then management directs you to do it by hand. :(
 
 backup and restore?
 
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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

 And of course, to build applications that are just ColdFusion, you
 have to know a lot of things already - relational databases, HTML,
 HTTP, maybe JavaScript and CSS.

I guess what I'm saying is that I can already do the above, I just want
a single medium through which to deliver the resulting product. And
don't forget design as a requirement for the one-man band.

 You seem to want things to be not only simpler than they are, but
 simpler than they can be.

I suppose... as long as things continue to change so extremely rapidly,
which is good in many ways, I will just have to deal with the
changing landscape.  Suddenly, plain ole text documents (no graphics)
has a certain quaint charm. :o)

I just need a vacation...


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Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:42 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Need some perspective...


 Now here's an example I would point to concerning the difficulty
 I would have even getting past consideration of using Adobe's
 technologies.  Take this presentation/tutorial on Adobe's site,
 for example:

 ...Tim Buntel explains the data-centric features in Flash Builder 4
 and shows how developers can use both Flash Builder and ColdFusion
 to create Flex applications.

 Three different technologies mentioned in one statement.  Learn
 Flash Builder 4 and the ColdFusion language to be able to create
 a Flex application.  Sounds too convoluted, to me.

 Too many diverse technologies?  Confusing to those considering
 using Adobe's products?  AIR, Flash, Flex, ColdFusion, etc?
 Dreamweaver or Flash Builder, or perhaps ColdFusion Builder?
 I'm glad I'm not just starting out in this, trying to decide
 what to use to make a living.

I don't know what kind of response you hope for here. Programming is
complicated. Client-server programming is more complicated. Web
programming (being a specific subset of client-server programming) is
arguably more complicated still. And yet, I think all of them are
simpler than building console applications in assembler, which is a
much less complex environment overall.

Would you find this confusing?

... how developers can use an editor and a server-side scripting
language to build web applications ...

Because that's basically the same as this:

... how developers can use both Flash Builder and ColdFusion to create
Flex applications ...

And of course, to build applications that are just ColdFusion, you
have to know a lot of things already - relational databases, HTML,
HTTP, maybe JavaScript and CSS.

You seem to want things to be not only simpler than they are, but
simpler than they can be.

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http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

  And of course, to build applications that are just ColdFusion, you
  have to know a lot of things already - relational databases, HTML,
  HTTP, maybe JavaScript and CSS.

 I guess what I'm saying is that I can already do the above, I just want
 a single medium through which to deliver the resulting product. And
 don't forget design as a requirement for the one-man band.

But you don't have a single medium now. That's my point. You have to
write in at least three different languages, maybe more, for your
just ColdFusion applications: CF, SQL, HTML, JS, CSS. Using Flex as
a front-end, you can drop a couple of other languages, more or less -
JavaScript and HTML. And design is irrelevant here, as you'd have to
do that no matter which approach you take.

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Even better Dave.and I hear you on the version issue (which was my
only concern).will have to investigate further

Thanks againgreat info!
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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

When I mentioned medium, I meant delivery medium, not
creation medium.

One last question (for now!):

Can I just build HTML5/CSS3/jQuery/SQL/CF apps and then
just convert them to AIR applications without programming
FLEX?


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Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Need some perspective...


  And of course, to build applications that are just ColdFusion, you
  have to know a lot of things already - relational databases, HTML,
  HTTP, maybe JavaScript and CSS.

 I guess what I'm saying is that I can already do the above, I just want
 a single medium through which to deliver the resulting product. And
 don't forget design as a requirement for the one-man band.

But you don't have a single medium now. That's my point. You have to
write in at least three different languages, maybe more, for your
just ColdFusion applications: CF, SQL, HTML, JS, CSS. Using Flex as
a front-end, you can drop a couple of other languages, more or less -
JavaScript and HTML. And design is irrelevant here, as you'd have to
do that no matter which approach you take.

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 When I mentioned medium, I meant delivery medium, not
 creation medium.

I don't see how that makes any difference. When you write CF and HTML
applications using, say, jQuery, you have a bunch of files that you
create. Some are CF files that generate HTML. Others are JavaScript
files. Still others are CSS files. You can create them all in one
editor, or in separate editors.

When you write Flex applications with a CF backend, you also have a
bunch of files you create. Some are CF files that generate XML or some
other consumable format (typically, you don't even have to worry about
the format thanks to the data options in Flash Builder). Others are
SWF files. You can create them all in one editor, or in separate
editors.

 Can I just build HTML5/CSS3/jQuery/SQL/CF apps and then
 just convert them to AIR applications without programming
 FLEX?

AIR is a runtime library that supports two types of applications:
Flex/AS3 and HTML/JS. But the key thing is, they're desktop
applications instead of web applications. So, you could use CF
services from your desktop application, but you couldn't take your
existing CF applications and simply make them into AIR applications
without significant changes.

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Re: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Raymond Camden

A bit late to this conversation. I don't have much to answer in terms
of questions as Dave did a kick ass job, but if you want to see some
examples, I did a presentation on Flex+CF just last week. You can find
my slides and a link to the recording here:

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2011/6/24/Slides-code-and-recording-from-my-Flex-MobileColdFusion-presentation

For a more concentrated look at one of the examples from the presentation, see

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2011/6/25/Flex-MobileColdFusion-Example--Art-Search

If there any more questions I can answer - let me know - although I
think Dave will beat me. ;)


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:

 When I mentioned medium, I meant delivery medium, not
 creation medium.

 I don't see how that makes any difference. When you write CF and HTML
 applications using, say, jQuery, you have a bunch of files that you
 create. Some are CF files that generate HTML. Others are JavaScript
 files. Still others are CSS files. You can create them all in one
 editor, or in separate editors.

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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

LOL!  It was either that or catch the 1/2 story play by play the next day.

So, I am running into a problem that I really have no idea why it's 
happening...  

I am trying to update a PDF form and then save it as a different file (it's 
a federal I9 form).  First, I commented out the 2 fields that have an array; 
I don't know how to access them - the way I did it I get an error (the 
structure I have for the form says LPRAlienNumber is an array, with 2 
items).  Second, The rest continues without error but when I get to the 
output file, nothing has been inserted into it.  I also commented out the 
second sub form that says page4 as it didn't seem to do anything either (it 
was just something I found on the web that said I may need to use another 
sub child inside of the subform for form1 to get to the actual page4).

Any help would be MUCH appreciated!

Link to I9 form: http://www.filedropper.com/test_2

Here's the code:

cftry
cfpdfform source=test.pdf result=pdfForm action=read/
cfcatch
pThe pdf is not interactive. No form fields could be 
found./p
cfabort
/cfcatch
/cftry
cfpdfform action=populate source=test.pdf destination=testfinal.pdf 
overwrite=true overwritedata=yes
cfif structCount(pdfForm) gt 0
cfpdfsubform name=form1
!--- cfpdfsubform name=page4 ---
!--- cfpdfformparam name=LPRAlienNumber[1] 
value=0 /
cfpdfformparam name=LPRAlienNumber[2] 
value= / ---
cfpdfformparam name=address value=2413 
Leckrone Dr /
cfpdfformparam name=alienauthorizedtowork 
value=0 /
cfpdfformparam name=alienworknumber value= 
/
cfpdfformparam name=apartmentnumber value= 
/
cfpdfformparam name=businessdate value= /
cfpdfformparam name=businessnameaddress 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=certificationdate 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=certprintname value= /
cfpdfformparam name=certtitle value= /
cfpdfformparam name=citizen1 value=0 /
cfpdfformparam name=city value=Plainfield 
/
cfpdfformparam name=dateofbirth 
value=03/22/1979 /
cfpdfformparam name=dateofrehire value= /
cfpdfformparam name=docnumberlistA value= 
/
cfpdfformparam name=doctitle value= /
cfpdfformparam name=documentnumber value= 
/
cfpdfformparam name=documentnumberlistA 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=documenttitlelistA 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=employersignaturedate 
value= /
!--- cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate[1] 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate[2] 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate[3] 
value= / ---
cfpdfformparam name=expirationdatelistA 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=firstname 
value=Kenneth /
cfpdfformparam name=issuingauthoritylistA 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=lastname value=Hammond 
/
cfpdfformparam name=listb1 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=listb2 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=listb3 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=listb4 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=listc1 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=listc2 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=listc3 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=listc4 value= /
cfpdfformparam name=maidenname value= /
cfpdfformparam name=middleinitial value= /
cfpdfformparam name=newname value= /
cfpdfformparam name=noncitizennational 
value=0 /
cfpdfformparam name=prepareressignature 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=preparersaddress 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=preparerssignaturedate 
value= /
cfpdfformparam name=printname value= /
cfpdfformparam name=signaturedate value= /
cfpdfformparam name=ssnum value= /
cfpdfformparam name=state value=IL /
 

loop timing out

2011-06-27 Thread daniel kessler

I'm creating a scheduled_task to correct a problem.  For the correction, I'm 
doing a query for the list of problem records.  Then I'm looping through the 
problem records and resending each one of them through the same code that it 
went through when it developed the problem.  That code has several database 
updates.  

Unfortunately, I'm timing out of the cfloop.  I don't have access to the page 
that I'm looping through, so I can't change it.

Is there a way to let a loop have other transactions so that it doesn't time 
out?  I thought of putting the loop in another loop, so that it only does 5 at 
a time, but then that's just a loop in a loop and then the outer one will time 
out.

Did I state this clearly?

A friend of mine suggested the line:
cfsetting requestTimeOut = 120”
I am told that this setting will only be persistent for that page and that the 
timeout will revert to it's previous setting once the page is done running.  Is 
that correct?  I was also concerned that when CF is upgraded (we're on CF7 for 
this app) that this setting might be trouble.  Any thoughts?  Overall, I'd like 
a different solution than this, something that will make the loop more 
acceptable.

thank you for any assistance.

daniel

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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

 ... or catch the 1/2 story play by play the next day.

Ah, now the truth comes out ... ;) 
 
 So, I am running into a problem 

I tried a quick test under CF9 (using full paths) and all of the test values 
are populated for me.

cfpdfform action=populate source=c:/test.pdf 
destination=c:/testfinal.pdf overwrite=true overwritedata=yes
   cfpdfsubform name=form1
  !--- 1-checked, 0-unchecked ---
  cfpdfformparam name=LPRAlienNumber value=1 /
  cfpdfformparam name=address value=2413 Leckrone Dr /
  cfpdfformparam name=alienauthorizedtowork value=0 /
  cfpdfformparam name=alienworknumber value=alienworknumber /
  cfpdfformparam name=apartmentnumber value=apt /
  cfpdfformparam name=businessdate value=businessdate /
  cfpdfformparam name=city value=city /
  cfpdfformparam name=dateofbirth value=01/01/1900 /
  cfpdfformparam name=dateofrehire value=dateofrehire /
  cfpdfformparam name=docnumberlistA value=docnumberlistA /
  cfpdfformparam name=doctitle value=doctitle /
  cfpdfformparam name=documentnumber value=documentnumber /
  cfpdfformparam name=documentnumberlistA value=documentnumberlistA /
  cfpdfformparam name=documenttitlelistA value=documenttitlelistA /
  cfpdfformparam name=employersignaturedate value= /
  cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate value=01/31/1900 /
  cfpdfformparam name=expirationdatelistA value=expirationdatelistA /
  cfpdfformparam name=firstname value=Kenneth /
  cfpdfformparam name=lastname value=Hammond /
   /cfpdfsubform
/cfpdfform

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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

Is that the only thing you changed?  I am also running CF9.
 

-Original Message-
From: Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:27:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


 ... or catch the 1/2 story play by play the next day.

Ah, now the truth comes out ... ;) 
 
 So, I am running into a problem 

I tried a quick test under CF9 (using full paths) and all of the test values 
are populated for me.

cfpdfform action=populate source=c:/test.pdf 
destination=c:/testfinal.pdf overwrite=true overwritedata=yes
   cfpdfsubform name=form1
  !--- 1-checked, 0-unchecked ---
  cfpdfformparam name=LPRAlienNumber value=1 /
  cfpdfformparam name=address value=2413 Leckrone Dr /
  cfpdfformparam name=alienauthorizedtowork value=0 /
  cfpdfformparam name=alienworknumber value=alienworknumber /
  cfpdfformparam name=apartmentnumber value=apt /
  cfpdfformparam name=businessdate value=businessdate /
  cfpdfformparam name=city value=city /
  cfpdfformparam name=dateofbirth value=01/01/1900 /
  cfpdfformparam name=dateofrehire value=dateofrehire /
  cfpdfformparam name=docnumberlistA value=docnumberlistA /
  cfpdfformparam name=doctitle value=doctitle /
  cfpdfformparam name=documentnumber value=documentnumber /
  cfpdfformparam name=documentnumberlistA value=documentnumberlistA 
/
  cfpdfformparam name=documenttitlelistA value=documenttitlelistA 
/
  cfpdfformparam name=employersignaturedate value= /
  cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate value=01/31/1900 /
  cfpdfformparam name=expirationdatelistA value=expirationdatelistA 
/
  cfpdfformparam name=firstname value=Kenneth /
  cfpdfformparam name=lastname value=Hammond /
   /cfpdfsubform
/cfpdfform



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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

 Any ideas for those fields with arrays?  LPRAlienNumber and expirationdate.

In my cfdump it shows array

LPRAlienNumber
1 0
2 [empty string]

expiration date
1 [empty string]
2 [empty string]
3 [empty string]
-Original Message-
From: Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:27:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


 ... or catch the 1/2 story play by play the next day.

Ah, now the truth comes out ... ;) 
 
 So, I am running into a problem 

I tried a quick test under CF9 (using full paths) and all of the test values 
are populated for me.

cfpdfform action=populate source=c:/test.pdf 
destination=c:/testfinal.pdf overwrite=true overwritedata=yes
   cfpdfsubform name=form1
  !--- 1-checked, 0-unchecked ---
  cfpdfformparam name=LPRAlienNumber value=1 /
  cfpdfformparam name=address value=2413 Leckrone Dr /
  cfpdfformparam name=alienauthorizedtowork value=0 /
  cfpdfformparam name=alienworknumber value=alienworknumber /
  cfpdfformparam name=apartmentnumber value=apt /
  cfpdfformparam name=businessdate value=businessdate /
  cfpdfformparam name=city value=city /
  cfpdfformparam name=dateofbirth value=01/01/1900 /
  cfpdfformparam name=dateofrehire value=dateofrehire /
  cfpdfformparam name=docnumberlistA value=docnumberlistA /
  cfpdfformparam name=doctitle value=doctitle /
  cfpdfformparam name=documentnumber value=documentnumber /
  cfpdfformparam name=documentnumberlistA value=documentnumberlistA 
/
  cfpdfformparam name=documenttitlelistA value=documenttitlelistA 
/
  cfpdfformparam name=employersignaturedate value= /
  cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate value=01/31/1900 /
  cfpdfformparam name=expirationdatelistA value=expirationdatelistA 
/
  cfpdfformparam name=firstname value=Kenneth /
  cfpdfformparam name=lastname value=Hammond /
   /cfpdfsubform
/cfpdfform



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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

Yep. I just downloaded the form and filled in a few more values (most of yours 
were blank). Using the exact code posted, all of those values are populated in 
my destination file. 


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Re: loop timing out

2011-06-27 Thread William Seiter

Hey Daniel,

In order to assist you, it would be helpful to see the code that has the loop 
as well as some knowledge of what the 'database call' is doing.  (maybe the 
database call isn't returning?)

The cfsetting that you mention, does only change the timeout setting for the 
page that it is set in.  It does not change the master settings in the cfadmin, 
so it will not effect other pages on your website directly. (this is true from 
CF7 thru CF9, and I would expect any future version of CF as well)

The issue that it appears that you are running into is two-fold.  1.  how many 
'actions' are you looping over combined with 2. how long does it take to 
complete each action.

Setting up a 'grouped' plan to only run x of them is a valid assessment, but I 
would suggest that you do this by tracking which ones need to be redone outside 
of the page.
An example would be, you could have each of the necessary redone's to show up 
in a database table, and mark them as completed once they are done.  The you 
would just need to pull the oldest 5 of them each time you load the page.  
(this would mean the page would have to be loaded more often.

The best solution for you, will probably come after you have posted some more 
information (the loop code and 'what' the action is doing)

hope this helps,
William


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On Jun 27, 2011, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote: 


I'm creating a scheduled_task to correct a problem.  For the correction, I'm 
doing a query for the list of problem records.  Then I'm looping through the 
problem records and resending each one of them through the same code that it 
went through when it developed the problem.  That code has several database 
updates.  

Unfortunately, I'm timing out of the cfloop.  I don't have access to the page 
that I'm looping through, so I can't change it.

Is there a way to let a loop have other transactions so that it doesn't time 
out?  I thought of putting the loop in another loop, so that it only does 5 at 
a time, but then that's just a loop in a loop and then the outer one will time 
out.

Did I state this clearly?

A friend of mine suggested the line:
cfsetting requestTimeOut = 120”
I am told that this setting will only be persistent for that page and that the 
timeout will revert to it's previous setting once the page is done running.  Is 
that correct?  I was also concerned that when CF is upgraded (we're on CF7 for 
this app) that this setting might be trouble.  Any thoughts?  Overall, I'd like 
a different solution than this, something that will make the loop more 
acceptable.

thank you for any assistance.

daniel



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RE: Need some perspective...

2011-06-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson

That I'm not sure of Rick

I'd never do it as it's too easy to do it in AIR.you can even use
CSS in Flex/AIR

Cheers

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 Can I just build HTML5/CSS3/jQuery/SQL/CF apps and then
 just convert them to AIR applications without programming
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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

No matter what I do to this it will not work :-/  I added full paths and 
still no luck
 

-Original Message-
From: Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:33:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


Yep. I just downloaded the form and filled in a few more values (most of 
yours were blank). Using the exact code posted, all of those values are 
populated in my destination file. 




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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

I am not sure about LPRAlienNumber. But for expirationdate use index. 

Example:
cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate index=1 value=12/31/1899 /
cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate index=2 value=10/10/1910 /
cfpdfformparam name=expirationdate index=3 value=05/05/1955 /



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RE: loop timing out

2011-06-27 Thread Rick Faircloth

What about running the task in a cfthread?

I have some tasks that run on a schedule (or manually triggered)
for an hour or two without issue...

Rick

-Original Message-
From: William Seiter [mailto:will...@seiter.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 4:42 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: loop timing out


Hey Daniel,

In order to assist you, it would be helpful to see the code that has the loop 
as well as some knowledge of what the 'database call' is doing.  (maybe the 
database call isn't returning?)

The cfsetting that you mention, does only change the timeout setting for the 
page that it is set in.  It does not change the master settings in the cfadmin, 
so it will not effect other pages on your website directly. (this is true from 
CF7 thru CF9, and I would expect any future version of CF as well)

The issue that it appears that you are running into is two-fold.  1.  how many 
'actions' are you looping over combined with 2. how long does it take to 
complete each action.

Setting up a 'grouped' plan to only run x of them is a valid assessment, but I 
would suggest that you do this by tracking which ones need to be redone outside 
of the page.
An example would be, you could have each of the necessary redone's to show up 
in a database table, and mark them as completed once they are done.  The you 
would just need to pull the oldest 5 of them each time you load the page.  
(this would mean the page would have to be loaded more often.

The best solution for you, will probably come after you have posted some more 
information (the loop code and 'what' the action is doing)

hope this helps,
William


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On Jun 27, 2011, daniel kessler dani...@umd.edu wrote: 


I'm creating a scheduled_task to correct a problem.  For the correction, I'm 
doing a query for the list of problem records.  Then I'm looping through the 
problem records and resending each one of them through the same code that it 
went through when it developed the problem.  That code has several database 
updates.  

Unfortunately, I'm timing out of the cfloop.  I don't have access to the page 
that I'm looping through, so I can't change it.

Is there a way to let a loop have other transactions so that it doesn't time 
out?  I thought of putting the loop in another loop, so that it only does 5 at 
a time, but then that's just a loop in a loop and then the outer one will time 
out.

Did I state this clearly?

A friend of mine suggested the line:
cfsetting requestTimeOut = 120”
I am told that this setting will only be persistent for that page and that the 
timeout will revert to it's previous setting once the page is done running.  Is 
that correct?  I was also concerned that when CF is upgraded (we're on CF7 for 
this app) that this setting might be trouble.  Any thoughts?  Overall, I'd like 
a different solution than this, something that will make the loop more 
acceptable.

thank you for any assistance.

daniel





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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

The file has some restrictions, but seems to allow fill ins. You tried the 
exact code and none of the fields are populated? I tested with 9,0,1,274733 dev 
edition.

-Leigh

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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

Yes, I tried the exact code :-/  The file is being created but nothing is in 
the form fields. 
 

-Original Message-
From: Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


The file has some restrictions, but seems to allow fill ins. You tried the 
exact code and none of the fields are populated? I tested with 9,0,1,274733 
dev edition.

-Leigh



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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

OK, hold the phone!  I'm on a mac so I have been using Preview.  Guess 
what... Preview doesn't show the stuff.  I sent it to a co-worker who uses 
Acrobat Reader on his PC, THE INFO IS THERE.  So, apparently that means 
Preview can't show the entered form field data...  
 

-Original Message-
From: Ken Hammond khamm...@saleminc.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:51:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


Yes, I tried the exact code :-/  The file is being created but nothing is in 

the form fields. 
 

-Original Message-
From: Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


The file has some restrictions, but seems to allow fill ins. You tried the 
exact code and none of the fields are populated? I tested with 9,0,1,274733 
dev edition.

-Leigh





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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

What version of CF?


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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Ken Hammond

9,0,1,274733
 

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To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Finding PDF form field names


What version of CF?




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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Leigh

 Acrobat Reader on his PC, THE INFO IS THERE.  So,
 apparently that means 
 Preview can't show the entered form field data...  

I am officially out of my element with mac's :

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Re: Finding PDF form field names

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Watts

 OK, hold the phone!  I'm on a mac so I have been using Preview.  Guess
 what... Preview doesn't show the stuff.  I sent it to a co-worker who uses
 Acrobat Reader on his PC, THE INFO IS THERE.  So, apparently that means
 Preview can't show the entered form field data...

Right. Preview doesn't support most of the forms-based stuff that PDFs
allow. You need your Mac users to install Adobe Reader for that
functionality.

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RE: application.cfm

2011-06-27 Thread Andrew Scott

That’s what cfthrow and cfrethrow are for.


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  Actually cfabort was introduced as a debugging tag.
 
 
 Really?
 Note that I use CFABORT because I was not sure CFCONTENT will cause
 processing to stop.
 It is not specified in the docs, but it does, so I could remove the
CFABORT tag
 after CFCONTENT
 
 There is still a good reason for CFABORT: stop processing after displaying
an
 error message in application.cfm.
 This is not debugging, but HTTP request validation.
 I have plenty of validation done in application.cfm.
 
 

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RE: Problem with pound signs

2011-06-27 Thread Andrew Scott

Times like this you have to love the revision control system, as well as
Eclipse for this type of things.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 3:45 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Problem with pound signs
 
 
  Someone else mentioned that manually fixing would be boring and
  tedious. I agree with that but when one programmer decides to do a
  mass search and replace and totally destroys a code base, then
  management directs you to do it by hand. :(
 
 backup and restore?
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 


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