Re: Global UUID and Client vars

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

This doesn't really answer your question, but it seems like you're counting
on unique CFID's - seems like I read somewhere that this is not something
that you can count on.  (though UUID's are supposedly globally unique)

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:01 AM
Subject: Global UUID and Client vars


 A couple quick questions:

 1. Where and what is the registry key that needs to be modified on a
Solaris
 box to make the CFID generate a Global UUID instead of a sequential
number?

 2. If CF is upgraded, say from CF 4.01 to 4.5, do the counters that CF
keeps
 track of to generated the sequential CFID get reset? Where is the last
 number assigned stored?

 Thanks in advance,
 Dave.

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OT: ASP.NET

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

Noticed that ASP.NET is finally gold.  Pretty interesting technology (or 
powerful, depending on your attitude toward MS)  I'm a big fan of the 
more solutions I can offer, the better, but even if you're 100% 
committed to CF, I'd recommend checking it out (You can't make 
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understand it - and anti-MS FUD and soundbytes don't qualify as real 
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Re: Global UUID and Client vars

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

Assuming non-UUID's: Theoretically, yes.  The CFID is only 4 digits long,
and the CFTOKEN is 8 digits long.  As a combination, this works out to about
100 billion unique values.  If you have more sessions than that, I'm sure
you have bigger problems!  However, I'm one of those mathematical geeks that
will only use a value for uniqueness if you can guarantee *pure* uniqueness.

Of course, by themselves, CFID and CFTOKEN would have a higher probability
of duplicate values, since you can only have 10,000 different CFID values
and 100,000,000 different CFTOKEN's.

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Global UUID and Client vars


 Billy,

 Actually, unless I'm reading what you wrote the wrong way, everybody who
 uses SESSION or CLIENT variables is counting on unique CFIDs (and CFTOKENS
 for that matter). That's how the user gets identified.


 Am I wrong?

 Dave.


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 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:04:27 -0600

 This doesn't really answer your question, but it seems like you're
counting
 on unique CFID's - seems like I read somewhere that this is not something
 that you can count on.  (though UUID's are supposedly globally unique)

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:01 AM
 Subject: Global UUID and Client vars


   A couple quick questions:
  
   1. Where and what is the registry key that needs to be modified on a
 Solaris
   box to make the CFID generate a Global UUID instead of a sequential
 number?
  
   2. If CF is upgraded, say from CF 4.01 to 4.5, do the counters that CF
 keeps
   track of to generated the sequential CFID get reset? Where is the last
   number assigned stored?
  
   Thanks in advance,
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Re: ASP.NET

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

Most of the ASP sites are chock full of ASP.net info.  Off the top of my
head:

asp101.com
learnasp.com
15seconds.com

Also, Wrox has written a crapload of books covering ASP.NET and the .NET
framework (I was fortunate to be a technical reviewer on a few of them)

Most of the MS developer mags are pretty deep into .NET (MSDN mag, Visual
Studio mag).  Plus there's a new .NET mag by the same ppl who do the Visual
Studio mag.

Note that Microsoft has futher blurred the line between web and traditional
development - since you're developing against the entire CLR in a real
language (VB or C#, not VBScript), you really can't learn ASP.NET without
learning the framework (though ASP.NET does have features specific to it -
sessions, databinding, etc)

- Original Message -
From: Stephenie Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: ASP.NET


 do you have any info on resources where one can learn more about
 NET and how to implement it?
 in the dark about .NET

 ~~
 Stephenie



 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:12 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: ASP.NET


 Noticed that ASP.NET is finally gold.  Pretty interesting
 technology (or
 powerful, depending on your attitude toward MS)  I'm a big fan of
 the
 more solutions I can offer, the better, but even if you're 100%
 committed to CF, I'd recommend checking it out (You can't make
 professional arguments against competing technologies if you
 don't
 understand it - and anti-MS FUD and soundbytes don't qualify as
 real
 knowledge)

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Re: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

For the most part, this isn't something you'd do in your application
server - you do it in your web server (for example, custom headers in IIS).
However, if you don't have access to the web server, you can do it in code.
It's no more difficult to do in CF than it is in any other language.

For example, if you use something where you funnel all requests through one
file (perhaps Fusebox, but not necessarily) and you have each site's file in
it's own directory, something like this in the application.cfm should do the
trick:

cfset subDomain = listGetAt(cgi.server_name,1,.)
cfswitch expression=#subDomain#
cfcase value=www
cfset dir = production
/cfcase
cfcase value=beta
cfset dir = staging
/cfcase
/cfswitch

cfinclude template=#dir#/app.cfm
cfinclude template=#dir#/index.cfm


How would you normally do this in ASP?  ColdFusion makes this really easy to
do because it executes the application.cfm on every request - allowing you
to put the server name checking in the application.cfm, and not in your
application (plus you don't have to remember includes on multiple files)


- Original Message -
From: Les Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


 Hmmm...  Thanks for all the help everyone...

 I guess I'll just have to decide the lesser of the two evils.  =)

 I'm surprised that ColdFusion server doesn't have a way to handle multiple
 sites.  Does anyone know if there is going to be any support for this in
 future editions?

 Thanks again everyone!

 ---Les Buchanan

 -Original Message-
 From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:32 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


 Hi Les,

 I do all my mapping stuff in the application.cfm file. That way, when you
 move things over, you just change a few lines in the application.cfm file.
 I set imagepath, DSN, homepath, and a few others... Makes things go real
 smnooth when moving over.

 Mike


 -Original Message-
 From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Multiple sites...


 Hi,

 I'm new on the list and to ColdFusion in general, so take it easy on me.

 I would like to have two (or more) sites on my NT box, one for staging,
and
 one for production.  For example, I'd like to have a website
 (stage.livingscriptures.com) that I do all my pre-production work in, and
 then when I'm finished, simply copy everything over to a different
 directory, that would be my production site (www.livingscriptures.com).

 This is very simple to do with say, ASP, but I have found difficulty in
 getting this to work with ColdFusion.  When you're trying to cfinclude
 templates, it won't include from the proper directory, without creating
 mappings in the ColdFusion administrator, and then using a variable to
store
 that mapping.

 My co-worker introduced my to ColdFusion, and I think it's a GREAT
product,
 but the inability to do this has frustrated me.  Maybe I'm approaching
this
 the wrong way.  I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me with
this.
 Thanks!

 ---Les Buchanan
 Newbie ColdFusion Developer


 
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Re: Downloadable quick reference...

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

If you're using ColdFusion Studio for development, it is built into the IDE.
Click on the Help tab in the resource tab; look for the CFML Reference tab.

You can also find documentation here:
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/developer/documentation/coldfusion.cfm
though it isn't in the .chm format the the VBScript documentation is

- Original Message -
From: Les Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Downloadable quick reference...


 I have a VBScript reference that I can search / browse through...   I
 believe it's just a downloaded help file.  Is there anything out there for
 ColdFusion that I can download?

 ---Les
 
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Re: Looking for suggestions for a Virtual Museum

2002-01-16 Thread Billy Cravens

As a fan of history (more of geeky interest in it - I'm not a history buff
because I'm not buff in my history knowledge) this sounds fascinating.  I
would try to keep the vision of the museum in mind when you start doing
application design and data modeling.  Try to model it the same way the
museum does - either by geographical context, or by date, etc.  I've seen
many situations where the data organization didn't resemble the real
world organization used by the real world version of the group/business
etc that the site represented.  In other words, don't miss the forest for
the trees.


- Original Message -
From: Shawn Grover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:45 PM
Subject: Looking for suggestions for a Virtual Museum


 One of the sites I volunteer my time for is considering putting their
museum
 online (a virtual museum).

 I'm looking for ideas on how to accomplish this.  When they say virtual
 museum they simply mean providing access to some/most/all of the museum
 resources online.  We do not necessarily need a VRML environment (and I'd
 rather avoid the extra complexity).  So basically a search engine to their
 resources.

 I have considered taking the content management route (meaning they upload
 Word/PDF/Image/etc. files, and it gets mapped into the site
automatically),
 but am not yet convinced this is the best solution.  Most of the museum
 artifacts are old magazines, pilot and maintenance manuals and such - well
 suited for content management I think.  But I'm not sure if a CM system
 would be able to handle our particular needs for
searching/sorting/storage.
 (I'd roll my own if we go this route, so that's not really a strong
 argument).  Unfortunately, they only have maybe 1% (if that) of their
 resources in digital format thus far.

 Anyone want to offer ideas on how to approach this project??  It would be
 great to hear from someone who has but museum resources online before.

 If it helps, here is their current website:  www.arrow2000.ab.ca  This
site
 is undergoing massive revisions (using the powers of Cold Fusion of
 course... grins) and will likely integrate with the virtual museum
 concept at a later date.

 Thanks for any feedback.  I think this project is a bit bigger than I
 thought when I first agreed to take it on, but hey, I gotta learn how to
 handle a project of this size sooner or later...

 
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Re: Need something like the MSWC.BrowserType object

2002-01-15 Thread Billy Cravens

There's a number of custom tags available, like cf_browser  (all they do
is parse the cgi.user_agent)

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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:49 PM
Subject: Need something like the MSWC.BrowserType object


 Hmm, it looks like I can't use the MSWC.BrowserType object in CF.  Is
 there anything out there that's FREE that can get me the browser build
 (this is an IE specific app)?
 
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Re: Content Management System Intranet

2002-01-15 Thread Billy Cravens

I'm not sure if it fits your needs, but take a look at iiFramework
(www.iiFramework.com).  It's pretty inexpensive.

- Original Message -
From: Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:23 AM
Subject: Content Management System Intranet


 hello all
 was wondering if any one knows of a content management system for intranet
 built in CF?

 i need to merge 2 large intranets into one.

 would like to be able to give more control of content to the end users.

 i am sure i could build one,
 but with limited time,
 i thought this may have already have been done
 a few hundred times by better developers then my self.


 thanks all.
 for any advice!


 
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Re: Quanta?

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

I've used Quanta (for PHP, not CF development).  It's not a bad editor, but
it doesn't have the power of Studio.  Once they offer (do they?) the ability
to extend the IDE with user-defined toolbars and wizards (similar to VTML),
it will be very cool.  (I know they say they support CF, but I get the
feeling that it won't be much more than recognition of file extensions and
some color coding, similar to Studio's support for things like Java and
Perl).  I think it's a good option (analagous to using Homesite) but I think
using CF Studio in a WINE/VMWare like session would be better.


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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:31 AM
Subject: Quanta?


 Anyone ever used Quanta for developing CF pages? If so, what are your
 experiences with it? Here'a a mention in the Linux Today Newsletter
 (1/9/02):

 LINUXPR: THEKOMPANY.COM RELEASES QUANTA GOLD VERSION 3.3.2 WITH
 ZOPE AND COLDFUSION SUPPORT

 Quanta Gold is designed for the professional web developer that
 needs sophisticated project management abilities as well as
 all the features and hooks that a modern web site needs. This
 release is significant for the expanded support of various
 web languages.

 COMPLETE STORY:
 http://linuxpr.com/releases/4399.html

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Re: calling .sql scripts with CF and MySQL: how to?

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

I don't think there's a way to do it using CFQuery, since the method
requires directing a file into the mySQL client via command line.  Your best
bet seems like CFExecute.
(I'm assuming this is available for Solaris - I'm absolutely ignorant on
CF/Solaris)

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Subject: calling .sql scripts with CF and MySQL: how to?


 I'm still getting my head around the MySQL/Solaris combination with CF --
 sorry if this question is very basic.

 I want to call .sql scripts from the MySQL database via CF. How can I do
 this?

 Thanks,
 Marc Garrett

 
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Re: calling .sql scripts with CF and MySQL: how to?

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Why no just CFFile the .sql file, and include the contents of the file in a
CFQuery - this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but it gives you same
results.

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Subject: calling .sql scripts with CF and MySQL: how to?


 I'm still getting my head around the MySQL/Solaris combination with CF --
 sorry if this question is very basic.

 I want to call .sql scripts from the MySQL database via CF. How can I do
 this?

 Thanks,
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Re: verity and html comments round II

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Here's my 30-second workaround - CF process that grabs source from all the
pages, strips out comment indicators (but keeps text of comments), sticks
text into db.  Then verity against the db, and have pointers to the true url
in the database, which are then output as the result of your verity search.

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:23 AM
Subject: verity and html comments round II


 is there any special configuration you have to use in order to have verity
index commented out html text? a co-worker has indexed a bunch of html pages
that have the word orgeon in them many times within commented out html.
the only pages that verity is returning are the ones that have oregon in the
title (the only portion of the page that isn't commented out).


 thanks,

 phillip

 
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flash components: calendar

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

I'm trying to use the Flash Components kit's calendar widget.  I'm using 
it in inline mode for date selection.  The custom tag creates a hidden 
form field for the field that I specify, but no matter what I select in 
the calendar, it always passes a zero-length string.  Does this widget 
work at all?

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Re: flash components: calendar

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Yeah, double clicking seemed to do the trick - this is unacceptable, so it
looks like I'll go with a DHTML calendar.  Any suggestions?

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From: Angel Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: flash components: calendar


 The widget is f***ked up.

 You need to DOUBLE CLICK the date you select in order for it to
 register.
 At least this works in Internet Explorer. Doesn't seem to work at all in
 Opera.

 A real shame
 :(

 -Gel


 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 I'm trying to use the Flash Components kit's calendar widget.  I'm using

 it in inline mode for date selection.  The custom tag creates a hidden
 form field for the field that I specify, but no matter what I select in
 the calendar, it always passes a zero-length string.  Does this widget
 work at all?
 
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Re: CFMAIL problem - not sending, stuck in spool

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Wouldn't this tag only handle mail that is in the UNDELIVERABLE folder?  If
so, this has nothing to do with Melissa's problem.

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From: Don Vawter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: CFMAIL problem - not sending, stuck in spool


 Get the resendmail tag from the tag gallery

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 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:20 AM
 Subject: CFMAIL problem - not sending, stuck in spool


  I have a problem with Cold Fusion sending out email and was just
  wondering if you have any advice.  When the mail is generated it sits in
 
  a folder named SPOOL.  If it gets sent, it disappears from the SPOOL.
  If it cannot be delivered in 60 seconds it goes to the UNDELIVERABLE
  folder.
 
  For some reason a piece of mail is stuck in the SPOOL folder, it is not
  being delivered, or marked undeliverable.  It is also holding up the
  spool.
 
  I tried to delete the file, but got an error : Cannot delete 2E4: There
  has been a sharing violation, the source or destination file may be in
  use.
 
  Do you guys know of a way to kill this file?  It is in
  Cfusion\Mail\Spool\
 
 
 
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Re: Step in the rigth direction --Developer Edition

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Of course, if the user had a liscensed copy of CF Studio, it included the
developers copy of CF Server.  I'd think you'd make CF Studio (liscensed,
not trial) one of your class requirements.

- Original Message -
From: Jason Kufner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: Step in the rigth direction --Developer Edition


 I just wanted to point this out to everyone on the list. With all the
 talk about the 'death of coldFusion' I think this is a real step in the
 right direction. I've already convinced one client to use ColdFusion
 BECAUSE their IT department could poke around and use this Developers'
 Edition to learn the notes and bolts.

 I teach a number of web Design classes- and always felt a little
 uncomfortable giving coldfusion homework to students. There only option
 for testing scripts was to buy service though an ISP that ran
 coldfusion, or 'find' a copy to play with. (Finally I set up a server on
 my home machine and let my students ftp into that...) In the days since
 this release most of my students have downloaded the Developers' Edition
 and the reviews have been great.

 Here are the links:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/trial/

 and for more info:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/trial/faq/

 Good job Macromedia




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Re: Help Quick!

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

It can. (I think this might be IIS5+ - but I could be wrong)

look at the app mappings (properties of web site, Home Directory,
Configuration, Edit a mapping) and you'll see an option for Check that file
exists

- Original Message -
From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Help Quick!


 I am a little confused.  I didn't think IIS could catch missing CFM
pages?!

 Neil

 - Original Message -
 From: Don Vawter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Help Quick!


  I use IIS to redirect all errors to a handling template.
 
  If it is not a cf template the cgi.query_string looks like this:
 
  404;http://www.cyberroomies.com/robots.txt
 
  If it is a cf template you can find it  cgi.script_name
 
 
  BTW a trick I use is that if the missing object is an image I use
 cfcontent
  to serve a substitute place holder image so you don't get a broken image
  link
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:35 PM
  Subject: Help Quick!
 
 
   I am trying to determine when a page doesn't exist by using the
missing
  page
   handler in CF.  How do I determine what the actual page is?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Neil
  
  
 
 
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Re: Help Quick!

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Actually, there's no mind reading involved.  You know the URL they are
looking for, as well as any variables GET'ed or POST'ed.  Easy enough to
look at that information and develop a method for redirecting the user
(possibly a database of moved pages, or a lookup for common typos of URL's)

- Original Message -
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Help Quick!


 Thanks for providing  all the information needed to solve your
 problem. From what I can see if someone asks for www.site.com/blah.cfm
 and blah.cfm doesn't exist you want to read the web surfers mind and find
 out where they wanted to go. Try cf_mindreader from the developers
 exchange.

 On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Neil H. wrote:

  I am trying to determine when a page doesn't exist by using the missing
p
 age
  handler in CF.  How do I determine what the actual page is?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Neil
 
 
 
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Re: Step in the rigth direction --Developer Edition

2002-01-10 Thread Billy Cravens

Not really.  I know there are those that develop in Notepad or Homesite, but
most will agree that CF Studio is the tool of choice for professional CF
Development.  Most forms of education have requisites for classes - books,
materials, etc.

However, I'll agree that providing a devloper liscense for CF is a smart
move.  Not necessarily for education, but it is (was) stupid for
Allaire/Macromedia to not offer a developer liscense when competing
technologies (like ASP, PHP, and others) are either free or offer a
developers liscense for free.

- Original Message -
From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Step in the rigth direction --Developer Edition


   That is a pretty expensive requirement for a class isn't it?  Even with
 an education discount, it's still over $100, right?

 At 01:45 PM 01/10/2002 -0600, you wrote:
 Of course, if the user had a liscensed copy of CF Studio, it included the
 developers copy of CF Server.  I'd think you'd make CF Studio
(liscensed,
 not trial) one of your class requirements.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Kufner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:06 PM
 Subject: Step in the rigth direction --Developer Edition
 
 
   I just wanted to point this out to everyone on the list. With all the
   talk about the 'death of coldFusion' I think this is a real step in
the
   right direction. I've already convinced one client to use ColdFusion
   BECAUSE their IT department could poke around and use this Developers'
   Edition to learn the notes and bolts.
  
   I teach a number of web Design classes- and always felt a little
   uncomfortable giving coldfusion homework to students. There only
option
   for testing scripts was to buy service though an ISP that ran
   coldfusion, or 'find' a copy to play with. (Finally I set up a server
on
   my home machine and let my students ftp into that...) In the days
since
   this release most of my students have downloaded the Developers'
Edition
   and the reviews have been great.
  
   Here are the links:
   http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/trial/
  
   and for more info:
   http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/trial/faq/
  
   Good job Macromedia
  
  
  
  
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Re: Defining internal DB relationships necessary?

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

Are you sure that the relationships are only used in the Access GUI?  My
understanding is that they were true constraints.

I'd recommending building your schemas the right way - for practice sake
and for future robustness of those applications.

- Original Message -
From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:31 AM
Subject: Defining internal DB relationships necessary?


 My only work with databases is through ColdFusion, largely
 Access.

 In designing the tables, Access forces you to define a Primary
 Key, but I've only ever used the Relationships view where
 you define the actual relationships for visualisation purposes.
 Most of the sites I've done have been relatively straight-
 forward, and even though to start with I made myself draw
 up table schemas to get the relationships right, I can usually
 just run DB designs off without too much planning now.

 I always saw the relationships defined *in Access* as being
 only relevant to people using the DB with a front-end
 designed in Access itself. I deal with all constraints and so
 on via the CF code, validating forms, etc.

 However, I've just got round to creating tables via SQL,
 and studying the syntax for this I've wondered if specifying
 constraints, keys, etc., for explicit definition in the structure
 of the DB is necessary...

 Is it best to do it, but not essential for small apps with
 good form validation? What are the problems involved if
 you just create a table with the datatypes and defaults,
 no constraints?

 My basic start for learning bits of SQL is Ben Forta's
 'SQL in 10 Minutes', and none of the CREATE TABLE
 examples use anything other than datatype and default
 definitions. Is this misleading?

 Any comments/advice on this topic welcome!

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OT: fusebox.org

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

Bizarre - went to fusebox.org, and for a few minutes, received one of 
those stupid domain for sale pages (you know, with the cheesy 'click 
and make me money' wanna-be portals).  Everything appears to be ok now.

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Re: CF Mappings

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

Whether or not you wish to use mappings in your application.  You'd use them
in CFInclude and CFModule

- Original Message -
From: James Taavon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:53 AM
Subject: CF Mappings


 What is the determining factor whether you need a Mapping for your
 application or not? Is it necessary for the app to work?

 James
 
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Re: Historical events

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

You could contact some of the sites that have this functionality and see if
they'd sell.  Do a search for on this day (keep the quotes) in Yahoo or
Google.  You'll get results for sites like http://www.on-this-day.com/

- Original Message -
From: Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: OT: Historical events


 Howdy all. I'm in need of a database that would have a news event for
 every day from 1900 thru today. Any ideas on where such a beast
 exists? The client is certainly willing to pay rather than populating
 it himself.

 Thanks. Sorry for the OT post.
 --

 Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations

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Re: Defining internal DB relationships necessary?

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

You're right, not defining the relationships won't cause anything to crash,
but can compromise the integrity of your database

- Original Message -
From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Defining internal DB relationships necessary?


  Are you sure that the relationships are only used in the Access GUI?
My
  understanding is that they were true constraints.

 You're right, I believe - only I've never had a single problem
 so far with not defining them inside the DB (apart from PK's,
 which Access forces, and I've got into the habit of defining
 by default).

 So far is probably the operative part of this, though! I'm
 incredibly thorough with my code that inserts data, but
 I appreciate that I should get into the habit of defining
 relationships explicitly.

 I was asking really to make sure I didn't get any replies going,
 Ohmigod!! You haven't defined the relationships!! All your
 sites are about to crash! Well, as I said, nothing bad so
 far, but will bear this advice in mind...

 cheers,

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Re: Defining internal DB relationships necessary?

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

There would be an error, but IMHO, *this is a good thing* - during
development, it would illustrate an area where data integrity was being
violated, and allow you to fix the problem (cascading deletes through
triggers, or done manually through cfml)

- Original Message -
From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Defining internal DB relationships necessary?


  Well here is my thought. As far as my DB is concerned I fully use
  creating a pri key and foreign key relationships where needed on all my
  tables. This helps so much in avoiding someone delteting something from
  one table that relies on something in another table.

 As I said, I do rigorous checks in the CF app for this sort of stuff.
 I think my initial reasoning was, I'd like to control error-checking at
 the app level. So, if someone tried to delete a record whose PK is
 related to several FK's in other tables, I'd do a query to check, and
 tell them why they can't delete.

 I just thought, if I rely on the DBMS, it might prevent the deletion,
 but the page might break and I don't know what sort of error
 message they'd get, whether it would be friendly or not. What
 *would* happen if such a delete was attempted on a DB that
 had rigorous relationships defined, but where the app had no
 checks? What would the user see in the return page? Would it
 break the generated CF? Or would the success page show,
 despite the fact that the DELETE was rolled back (with no
 indication that it had failed)?

 I know this is what CFTRY is for, but I just opted to spend
 time coding app-based checks rather than defining relationships and
 coding error handling. Anyways, isn't CFTRY kind of generic,
 as in, you could catch DB errors but not really know what's
 gone wrong?

  Another reason for
  doing this is that I use SQL 2K and use the diagram feature alot since I
  have several tables and I can see how each table relates to the others
  in the schema, as you mentioned.

 Yeah, some Access DB's I've done *do* have relationships
 defined, because I've defined them so I can visualise them,
 or need to present a design to a client.

 I actually came to this question because I'm building a
 developer toolkit in my new backend CMS template,
 which contains a pretty basic system for creating
 and altering DB tables online. It's become a lot more
 complex than I intended, but I am giving the option
 to index specific fields, requiring default value if NULL
 not allowed, forcing definition of PK field on creation
 of new table, etc.

 I just looked at some sample SQL in 'SQL in a Nutshell'
 and wondered about spending another few nights coding
 all the constraints code for SQL definition of
 relationships... :-|

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Re: CF Mappings

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

No, there is no need to set up a mapping (though the error message seems to
indicate it).  Mappings are more or less for convenience sake - you can
point to a file without a mapping (using the relative path)

Your error indicates that the file doesn't exist.

- Original Message -
From: James Taavon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: CF Mappings


 hmmm, ok. my question came about because i have two apps right now on CF
4.5
 running on NT server. One works just fine, it has a mapping which I did
not
 know of until today since I did not set it up. The second one i have does
 not. I get the error:

 --
--
 
 Error Occurred While Processing Request
 Error Diagnostic Information
 Template file not found.

 HTTP/1.0 404 Object Not Found
 Note: If you wish to use an absolute template path (e.g.
 TEMPLATE=/mypath/index.cfm) with CFINCLUDE then you must create a
mapping
 for the path using the ColdFusion Administrator.

 Using relative paths (e.g. TEMPLATE=index.cfm or
TEMPLATE=../index.cfm)
 does not require the creation of any special mappings. It is therefore
 recommended that you use relative paths with CFINCLUDE whenever possible.
 --
--
 


 Do I need to create a mapping to where the app exists for it to work? I
have
 never needed to before, that is why I am asking?





 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF Mappings


 Whether or not you wish to use mappings in your application.  You'd use
them
 in CFInclude and CFModule

 - Original Message -
 From: James Taavon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:53 AM
 Subject: CF Mappings


  What is the determining factor whether you need a Mapping for your
  application or not? Is it necessary for the app to work?
 
  James
 

 
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OT: SiteSprung

2002-01-09 Thread Billy Cravens

Couldn't help but chuckle when I saw this on the Developer's Exchange.  
A web based project management system that competes with SiteSpring - 
seems like the product name similarity could cause Macromedia's lawyers 
to use someone's head as a trampoline.   :-)

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Re: CFLOCK on files

2002-01-08 Thread Billy Cravens

Note that CFLock is totally indepedent of file locking.  CFLock only locks a
block of code within a particular context within CF.  I was under the
impression that the other service Jim was referring to wasn't necessarily
a CF application, in which case CFLock would have absolutely ZERO affect on
access to the file.

My recommendation: when dealing with files in use by third-party
applications, things tend to get really messy.  (I had a bad experience
trashing a FoxPro database in use by a legacy POS system once) I'd recommend
forgoing CFFile altogether, and write a COM object that uses the Win32 API
to look at the status of the file, and behaves accordingly.


- Original Message -
From: Chris Norloff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CFLOCK on files


 I wouldn't count on there being any automatic file locking with operations
 like cffile.  For our use of cffile, we use it inside named locks that
prev
 ent multiple simultaneous accesses to error log files we generate.  This
ha
 s worked well, even with busy error logging with many users ...sigh.

 So you might be able to get by without an explicit lock, but it's one of
th
 e first places I'd look if there's problems with cfserver stability.

 best,
 Chris Norloff

 BTW, we learned the hard way that when cffile does an action=append, it a
 ctually reads the ENTIRE file into memory, then appends the new info, then
 writes the entire file to the disk.  So watch your file size and your
avail
 able memory ...


 -- Original Message --
 from: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:53:12 -0700

 Even if you can't explicitly lock a file during a CFFILE operation... If
C
 F
 uses system-level function calls to read and write files (that must be
why

 it's capable of being locked out of a file when another application has
it

 locked), then you would think that during a CF file write operation, the
O
 S
 must place a lock on the file.  Or no?
 
 The reason I brought up the point in the first place is that I need to
rea
 d
 and write a large number of small text files that are in use by another,
 very busy service.  I'm hoping that by doing so, I wouldn't be causing
 problems for that application, or for CF itself.
 
 Jim
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: CFLOCK on files
 
 
  Kelly Matthews wrote:
 
   as far as I know it's not something that can be done. CFLOCK is
strict
 ly
 for
   sessions, etc.
 
 
  CFLOCK is for single threading CF. Whatever you do inside that single
  threaded application is not of CFs concern.
 
 
   CFFILE doesn't allow you to add a system level lock on a file nor
 release a
   lock.
 
 
  Unfortunately not.
 
  Jochem
 
 
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Re: CFLOCK on files

2002-01-08 Thread Billy Cravens

I don't think it's any more ill-behaved than any other high-level mechanism
(like FileScriptingObject) when it comes to manipulating files when there
may be contention from multiple sources.  It really boils down to knowing
who else needs access to the file, and how that interface functions.

- Original Message -
From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: CFLOCK on files


 I'm clear on the fact that CFLOCK and CFFILE are independent of one
another.
 Originally, I was hoping there was an outside chance that CF might enforce
 system level file locking when a CFFILE operation was contained within a
 CFLOCK.

 I'm also completely clear on the benefits of using CFLOCK's around CFFILE
 operations and am aware that those locks are only recognized and for the
 benefit of the CF application server itself.

 If CFFILE is really as ill-behaved as everyone says, then that has at a
 least a few implications for its use and usefulness.

 Jim


 - Original Message -
 From: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:32 AM
 Subject: Re: CFLOCK on files


  Note that CFLock is totally indepedent of file locking.  CFLock only
locks
 a
  block of code within a particular context within CF.  I was under the
  impression that the other service Jim was referring to wasn't
 necessarily
  a CF application, in which case CFLock would have absolutely ZERO affect
 on
  access to the file.
 
  My recommendation: when dealing with files in use by third-party
  applications, things tend to get really messy.  (I had a bad experience
  trashing a FoxPro database in use by a legacy POS system once) I'd
 recommend
  forgoing CFFile altogether, and write a COM object that uses the Win32
API
  to look at the status of the file, and behaves accordingly.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Norloff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:12 AM
  Subject: Re: CFLOCK on files
 
 
   I wouldn't count on there being any automatic file locking with
 operations
   like cffile.  For our use of cffile, we use it inside named locks that
  prev
   ent multiple simultaneous accesses to error log files we generate.
This
  ha
   s worked well, even with busy error logging with many users ...sigh.
  
   So you might be able to get by without an explicit lock, but it's one
of
  th
   e first places I'd look if there's problems with cfserver stability.
  
   best,
   Chris Norloff
  
   BTW, we learned the hard way that when cffile does an action=append,
it
 a
   ctually reads the ENTIRE file into memory, then appends the new info,
 then
   writes the entire file to the disk.  So watch your file size and your
  avail
   able memory ...
  
  
   -- Original Message --
   from: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:53:12 -0700
  
   Even if you can't explicitly lock a file during a CFFILE operation...
 If
  C
   F
   uses system-level function calls to read and write files (that must
be
  why
  
   it's capable of being locked out of a file when another application
has
  it
  
   locked), then you would think that during a CF file write operation,
 the
  O
   S
   must place a lock on the file.  Or no?
   
   The reason I brought up the point in the first place is that I need
to
  rea
   d
   and write a large number of small text files that are in use by
 another,
   very busy service.  I'm hoping that by doing so, I wouldn't be
causing
   problems for that application, or for CF itself.
   
   Jim
   
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:24 PM
   Subject: Re: CFLOCK on files
   
   
Kelly Matthews wrote:
   
 as far as I know it's not something that can be done. CFLOCK is
  strict
   ly
   for
 sessions, etc.
   
   
CFLOCK is for single threading CF. Whatever you do inside that
single
threaded application is not of CFs concern.
   
   
 CFFILE doesn't allow you to add a system level lock on a file nor
   release a
 lock.
   
   
Unfortunately not.
   
Jochem
   
  
 
 
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Re: problem with dynamic data in my select boxes

2002-01-08 Thread Billy Cravens

When you start iterating through your inner query, it loses its place in
the first query - meaning, referencing a column from the outtermost query
and expecting it to know what row it is on.  Like referencing query.column
outside of a query loop, it defaults to the first row's value.  You should
save the column value in a local variable before entering the inner query
loop:

cfset thisDecisionID = getReviewers.decisionID
CFLOOP query=getDCodes
  option value=#decID#
CFIF getDCodes.decisionID EQ
thisDecisionIDselected/cfif


- Original Message -
From: Tammy Hong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: problem with dynamic data in my select boxes


 Hi everyone,

 Can someone please point to me what the problem here is? I basically have
 two queries. One pulls out the record set for a particular ID number  and
is
 grouped in a cfoutput based on another ID number. The problem is that when
I
 have more than one dynamically populated select box with the HTML below,
the
 ID that is selected is not the right one. It will select the first
 decID of the first reviewer that is outputted. I am sure this is the right
 way to reference the variables. Can someone point me to the incorrect
logic?
 Please! I'm about to pull my hair out.


 See below:
 CFOUTPUT query=getReviewers group=reviewerID
 select name=decID
   option value=0[Select a decision]/option
  CFLOOP query=getDCodes
  option value=#decID# CFIF getDCodes.decisionID EQ
 getReviewers.decisionIDselected/cfif
 #trim(decisionDescription)#/option
  /CFLOOP
 /select
 /CFOUTPUT

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Re: Clustering and CF variables.

2002-01-08 Thread Billy Cravens

What are the performance implications of allowing your registry to grow like
that?  A portion of memory allocated to Windows is for the registry, and the
bigger the registry, the more memory used.

- Original Message -
From: Tyler M. Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: Clustering and CF variables.


 I would like to add that Ken's *not necessarily* right - if the server
 is a dedicated CF server then DO USE THE REGISTRY for client variables.
 The registry provides the greatest performance when using client
 variables, which is why it is used by default and why it is even an
 option.  Do you think MM made it an option just because it was possible
 or because it can be highly useful?  There are three options for three
 or more server environments.

 Just plan ahead for it.  When you build the server, adjust the registry
 to grow to around 100MB and it won't slow down and cause the server to
 crap out.  Monitor the size of the registry as well, drop the
 persistance of client variable data from 90 if the registry grows to
 large or allow the registry to grow larger.

 Just my two cents.  I've said it before I'll say it again the next time
 some SCREAMS that the registry won't work.  One users bad experience
 shouldn't deter all others from the truth.

 t

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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 12:52 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Clustering and CF variables.


 Ken's right - do NOT use the registry for storing client variables. By
 default this is exactly what CF does. One of the first things you should
 do upon installing CF is create an empty database, say called
 ClientVariables, and make this the DEFAULT storage source (under the CF
 Administrator which is smart enough to create the necessary tables in a
 blank database).

 You will save your system/s from potential problems of the Registry
 filling up by doing this.

 You can still setup seperate Client storage databases for each
 application however. If you don't specify which datasource to use (in
 your application.cfm file) then the default will be used instead.

 Client variables are very useful for storing persistent information for
 a long period of time. I think the CF default is about 90 days. I wrote
 a neat application for calculating the nutrient content of foods to
 originally remember what a customer had entered (see
 http://www.anzfa.gov.au/npc/anzfa_npc) but the powers that be did not
 want any data to be retained by the server so I had to go back to
 Session instead.

 Also remember that when using client/session variables you must track
 the CLIENT (the web browser itself) through the application by appending
 the CFID/CFTOKEN to your URL's etc. Ben Forta's masterful Web
 Application Construction Kit (see www.forta.com) discusses these
 techniques very well.

 Cheers!

 Peter Tilbrook

 
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Re: Creating ZIP archives

2002-01-08 Thread Billy Cravens

Alternately, you can use CFExecute and a command line program like PKZip.

- Original Message -
From: Jeff Sarsoun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: Creating ZIP archives


 I wrote a java CFX tag that does exactly this.  Email me off list if you
 would like try it.

 JS

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:39 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Creating ZIP archives


 Hi,

 I have a requirement to zip up some image files together and FTP them to
 another server.  The FTP bit is easy, but I'm wondering if anyone knows
 how (or whether there are any modules) that will create a ZIP file.

 Thanks

 Nick


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Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Or you could get Windows XP Professional (cheaper than 2K Server)

---
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- Original Message -
From: David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere


 Thank you,  Yes I have installed the client to control other servers and
 have also installed and used the web client.

 But am tired of using pcw to control my workstation. I guess I will just
 install a copy of server and install of my of tools on it.  That will
allow
 me to control my workstation from home through terminal server.
 - Original Message -
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:05 PM
 Subject: Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere


  Not the server, but you can install the client.  (Windows XP
Professional
  does have a TS server though)
 
  Go to the link I posted earlier.  Thee should be a link to the
workstation
  client.
 
  Alternately, you can install the web version (same link) on any IIS box
to
  control a TS server.
 
  ---
  Billy Cravens
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
  Subject: Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere
 
 
   Can you install Terminal Server on Windows 2000 professional?
  
   I have it installed on some servers, but my workstation is
professional
  and
   pc anywhere is abit slow.
   - Original Message -
   From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
   Subject: RE: VNC vs PC Anywhere
  
  
 Has anyone had any experience using VNC from ATT - it seems
  reasonably
 good (and free) at first glance. Anything I should be aware of if
we
 were to use it on a production box?
   
Yes. By itself, it is pretty unsecure, while pcAnywhere isn't if
  properly
configured.
   
If you want to use VNC securely, you can set it up to run through
SSH,
  but
on Windows, you're probably better off using pcAnywhere or Terminal
   Server.
I'm a big Terminal Server fan now - I can run it from a Pocket PC!
   
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http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
   
  
 
 
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Re: javascript escape sequence problem

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Your double quotes inside of your pound signs should not make a difference
if they're part of a function.  Is the JavaScript nested inside of a
CFOUTPUT?

---
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- Original Message -
From: Gilbert Midonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: javascript escape sequence problem


 I have a javascript that I'm trying to embed some CF into

 its an if-else

 if a
 {
 cellStart + ahrefStart + 'summary' + getYear + '_' + getMonth + '_'
 + ...
 }

 I want to add a piece of code [see below]


 var encodeStart =

'aaa/bbb.cfm?PDFPath=#URLEncodedFormat(ccc/ddd)#PDFName=#URLEncodedFormat
 (eee.pdf) ';


 and make the new statement:

 if a
 {
 cellstart + ahrefStart + encodeStart + 'summary' + getYear + '_' +
 getMonth + '_' + ...
 }

 however it's not reading correctly. If I remove the  it reads the
ccc/ddd.
 If I leave it, it doesn't.   But it works elsewhere

 var cellStart = 'a href=';

 I've tried every combination I can think of. Has anybody come across a
 problem like this?

 TIA

 gilbert midonnet





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Re: Reading header variables in Cold Fusion

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Look at this function:
GetHttpRequestData()
---Billy Cravens
- Original Message -
From: Alan Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:10 PM
Subject: Reading header variables in Cold Fusion


 Hello All,

 I am developing an application that requires variables passed from an
 existing system.  The existing system is behind a firewall so I am
 unable to write an LDAP query to get to the information.  The have
 informed me that they can send the information needed via a set of
 header variables.

 Does anyone know what CF function allows you to read header variables?
 I know there has been some discussion about CFHTTP but isn't that
 specifically used to read a text file?

 Your input in much appreciated.

 Regards,

 Alan Walker
 Technical Lead
 Vérité Multimedia, Inc.
 http://www.verite.com
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Re: Disable form field based on select box

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

In some browsers, you can set a text field to readonly.  However, for a
version that is cross-browser, I would look at hiding/showing layers based
on what the value of the select box.

---
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- Original Message -
From: Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:26 PM
Subject: Disable form field based on select box


 hello all!
 i have a select box called select name=Contract_Type
 i would like to Disable a text field called
 input type=text name=Contract_Amount

value=cfoutput#DollarFormat(RS_Update_PG2.Contract_Amount)#/cfoutput
 if the selecton in the select box IS
 option value=Open Hourly
 but leave the text field enable if it is not selected

 I have tried this, but it dosnt seem to work

 select name=Contract_Type
 onChange=CFIF value IS Open Hourly
 input diasabled type=text name=Contract_Amount
 CFELSE
 input diasabled type=text name=Contract_Amount

value=cfoutput#DollarFormat(RS_Update_PG2.Contract_Amount)#/cfoutput
 /CFIF


 any help would be great!
 -paul
 
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Re: Reading header variables in Cold Fusion

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Nevermind - I'm wrong.  Look at Joseph DeVore's post.  :-)

---
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- Original Message -
From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: Reading header variables in Cold Fusion


 Look at this function:
 GetHttpRequestData()
 ---Billy Cravens
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:10 PM
 Subject: Reading header variables in Cold Fusion


  Hello All,
 
  I am developing an application that requires variables passed from an
  existing system.  The existing system is behind a firewall so I am
  unable to write an LDAP query to get to the information.  The have
  informed me that they can send the information needed via a set of
  header variables.
 
  Does anyone know what CF function allows you to read header variables?
  I know there has been some discussion about CFHTTP but isn't that
  specifically used to read a text file?
 
  Your input in much appreciated.
 
  Regards,
 
  Alan Walker
  Technical Lead
  Vérité Multimedia, Inc.
  http://www.verite.com
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Re: simple HTML ?

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

change the javascript:void() to # (be sure to escape it as necessary)

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- Original Message -
From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: simple HTML ?


 I tried your code, but get an error in the javascript:void(); It seems li
 ke
 it wants something between the () or something



 Doug
 - Original Message -
 From: Garza, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:14 PM
 Subject: RE: simple HTML ?


  a href=javascript:void();
  onclick=document.[formname].submit();mylink/a
 
  Jeff Garza
  Lead Developer/Webmaster
  Spectrum Astro, Inc.
  480.892.8200
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.spectrumastro.com
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:20 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT: simple HTML ?
 
 
  I want to pass the values of some hidden fields, but I am not using a
  submit button. I am using a text link. How would I pass the form and
  hidden fields?
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
 
 
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Re: simple HTML ?

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I like using # instead, since it keeps the browser from going to somewhere
non-existent for those that have JS disabled.  Plus, it's shorter to type.
:-)

---
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- Original Message -
From: Garza, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: simple HTML ?


 You could replace the href=javascript:void(); with a
href=javascript://
 This should take care of it.  I noticed in another post (to another group)
 that not all browsers recognize the void statement.  You might also try
 putting a zero in the parentheses (0).  Sorry about the bad function.

 Jeff Garza
 Lead Developer/Webmaster
 Spectrum Astro, Inc.
 480.892.8200
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.spectrumastro.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:52 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: simple HTML ?


 I tried your code, but get an error in the javascript:void(); It seems li
 ke
 it wants something between the () or something



 Doug
 - Original Message -
 From: Garza, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:14 PM
 Subject: RE: simple HTML ?


  a href=javascript:void();
  onclick=document.[formname].submit();mylink/a
 
  Jeff Garza
  Lead Developer/Webmaster
  Spectrum Astro, Inc.
  480.892.8200
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.spectrumastro.com
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:20 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT: simple HTML ?
 
 
  I want to pass the values of some hidden fields, but I am not using a
  submit button. I am using a text link. How would I pass the form and
  hidden fields?
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
 

 
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Re: How can I get a query's name?

2001-12-20 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Why not change your UDF to take the name of the query as a string, and when
referencing your query, use evaluate().

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- Original Message -
From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: How can I get a query's name?


 Just to explain, I am passing a query to a UDF, not the name of the query.
 Since in passing the query as a parameter to the UDF, the reference to the
 query gets named as my parameter. In my UDF I am outputing the query using
 the queryname[column][row] notaion. For a certain part of code I would
like
 to know the query name itself.

 jon
 - Original Message -
 From: Gregory Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:23 PM
 Subject: RE: How can I get a query's name?


  Well, granted that a query name is the defining key for everything else
  about a query for example:
 
  query.recordcount
  query.thisfield
  etc...
 
 
  I don't think that there is a higher level field that give out the name
of
  queries that are running such as query.listofqueriesthathave run.  A
query
  name should A) Be a given in code or B) If the name is dynamic be
deviated
  in the same way that you came up with that dynamic name (unless of
course
  you're making random query names somehow, but I don't see the point of
  that).
 
  Gregory Harris
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:27 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: How can I get a query's name?
 
 
  Here is a good one. Is it possible to retrieve a queries name from the
 query
  itself?
 
  CF obviously knows lots of things about the query, since it spits out
the
  queryname and the sql in the debug output. Is this stuff exposed in any
 way?
  Am I having a brainfart? This stuff should be available...
 
  jon
 

 
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Re: CF 5 can't handle DB2 (was: Server running way too slow)

2001-12-19 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I assume that you have all of the shared variables locked?  Whereas you
could more or less get away with this in prior version, CF5 is very picky
about it.

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- Original Message -
From: Andrew Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:07 AM
Subject: CF 5 can't handle DB2 (was: Server running way too slow)


 I need to figure out why CF 4.5 and a piddly server can handle our traffic
 whereas CF 5.0 and a powerful server cannot.

 Our requests were running so slow when I initially loaded CF 5 that I had
to
 go back to CF 4.5, where it worked splendidly. Now I reinstalled CF 5 and
 page requests are taking way too long again. Way too long. PerfMon shows
 cached requests in the 100+ range (and running requests to 5 I think,
which
 is the default setting in CFIDE - note that I have not changed these from
 4.5, where the default settings worked).

 My conclusion is that it has something to do with CF5 and DB2. Most of our
 site accesses a DB2 back end but the whole site is slow. I'm connecting to
 DB2 via ODBC because we cannot get the native driver to work (is there a
 trick here! DANG!!!). I just don't see how CF can even be a factor here --
 but how can it not? DB2 query processing times are fine (3 seconds), but
the
 page comes up much later (35+ seconds).

 All of the relevant server settings are set to their defaults as they were
 with CF 4.5, though I made mods to them the first time I loaded CF 5 to no
 avail.

 Macromedia does not wish to hear from me until I fork over support $$$,
 which would be fine but as a govt agency we pay by voucher which can take
 weeks. Can someone bail me out?

 Thanks,
 Andy
 
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Re: OT was wondering if any Javascript guru's could give me a hand with this code

2001-12-19 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

That's a whole lotta code.  Have you tried placing alerts at different
points to see where it breaks?  In order to figure out where your code is
breaking, someone would have to either read all of your code, or recreate
your form, since you didn't include the HTML.  I doubt anyone will do
either.

Also, have you tested the code with older IE browsers?  (4,5,5.5)  I'm just
curious why you are using document.getElementById - as far as I know,
document.formName seems to work in all browsers.

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- Original Message -
From: Troy Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: OT was wondering if any Javascript guru's could give me a hand with
this code


 Hello,
 sorry for the OT but only place I actually get some answers to my
 questions.

 I was wondering if somebody code point me in the right direction why
 this form Validation won't work in NS6 it works great in IE.

 in NS6 all it does is submit the form and no validation happens.

 I have tested the function with out the credit card info in it and works
 and I also tested the credit card info by it self and that works fine
 but with them combined it doesn't work.

 here is the code if you want to take a look hopefully someone can point
 me in the right direction.

 SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript
 !-- Begin
 function checkFields() {
 missinginfo = ;

 FormVar = document.getElementById(JoinForm);
 var Cards = new makeArray(8);
 Cards[0] = new CardType(MasterCard, 51,52,53,54,55, 16);
 var MasterCard = Cards[0];
 Cards[1] = new CardType(VisaCard, 4, 13,16);
 var VisaCard = Cards[1];
 Cards[2] = new CardType(AmExCard, 34,37, 15);
 var AmExCard = Cards[2];
 Cards[3] = new CardType(DinersClubCard, 30,36,38, 14);
 var DinersClubCard = Cards[3];
 Cards[4] = new CardType(DiscoverCard, 6011, 16);
 var DiscoverCard = Cards[4];
 Cards[5] = new CardType(enRouteCard, 2014,2149, 15);
 var enRouteCard = Cards[5];
 Cards[6] = new CardType(JCBCard, 3088,3096,3112,3158,3337,3528,
 16);
 var JCBCard = Cards[6];
 var LuhnCheckSum = Cards[7] = new CardType();
 var tmpyear;
 if ((FormVar.CardNumber.value.length == 0) ||
   (FormVar.CardNumber.value.Length  16)) {
 missinginfo += \n -  Please enter a Card Number.;
 }
 if (FormVar.ExpYear.value.length == 4)
 tmpyear = FormVar.ExpYear.value;
 else {
 missinginfo += \n -  The Expiration Year is not valid.;
 }
 tmpmonth = FormVar.ExpMon.options[FormVar.ExpMon.selectedIndex].value;
 // The following line doesn't work in IE3, you need to change it
 // to something like (new CardType())
 // if (!CardType().isExpiryDate(tmpyear, tmpmonth)) {
 if (!(new CardType()).isExpiryDate(tmpyear, tmpmonth)) {
 missinginfo += \n -  This card has already expired.;
 }

 card = FormVar.CardType.options[FormVar.CardType.selectedIndex].value;
 var retval = eval(card + .checkCardNumber(\ +
 FormVar.CardNumber.value +
 \,  + tmpyear + ,  + tmpmonth + ););
 cardname = ;
 if (retval)
 // comment this out if used on an order form
 /* missinginfo += \n -  This card number appears to be valid.;
 */;
 else {
 // The cardnumber has the valid luhn checksum, but we want to know which
 // cardtype it belongs to.
 for (var n = 0; n  Cards.size; n++) {
 if (Cards[n].checkCardNumber(JoinForm.CardNumber.value, tmpyear,
 tmpmonth)) {
 cardname = Cards[n].getCardType();
 break;
}
 }
 if (cardname.length  0) {
 missinginfo += \n -  This looks like a  + cardname +  number,
 not a  + card +  number.;
 }
}
 /
 *\
 Object CardType([String cardtype, String rules, String len, int year,
 int month])
 cardtype: type of card, eg: MasterCard, Visa, etc.
 rules   : rules of the cardnumber, eg: 4, 6011, 34,37.
 len : valid length of cardnumber, eg: 16,19, 13,16.
 year: year of expiry date.
 month   : month of expiry date.
 eg:
 var VisaCard = new CardType(Visa, 4, 16);
 var AmExCard = new CardType(AmEx, 34,37, 15);
 \
 */
 function CardType() {
 var n;
 var argv = CardType.arguments;
 var argc = CardType.arguments.length;

 this.objname = object CardType;

 var tmpcardtype = (argc  0) ? argv[0] : CardObject;
 var tmprules = (argc  1) ? argv[1] : 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9;
 var tmplen = (argc  2) ? argv[2] : 13,14,15,16,19;

 this.setCardNumber = setCardNumber;  // set CardNumber method.
 this.setCardType = setCardType;  // setCardType method.
 this.setLen = setLen;  // setLen method.
 this.setRules = setRules;  // setRules method.
 this.setExpiryDate = setExpiryDate;  // setExpiryDate method.

 this.setCardType(tmpcardtype);
 this.setLen(tmplen);
 this.setRules(tmprules);
 if (argc  4)
 this.setExpiryDate(argv[3], argv[4]);

 this.checkCardNumber = checkCardNumber;  // checkCardNumber method.
 this.getExpiryDate = getExpiryDate;  // getExpiryDate method

Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere

2001-12-19 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I'd say VNC unless it's a Windows 2000  box.  If it's Windows 2000, use
Terminal Services.

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: OT: VNC vs PC Anywhere


 Has anyone had any experience using VNC from ATT - it seems reasonably
good
 (and free) at first glance. Anything I should be aware of if we were to
use
 it on a production box?

 
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Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere

2001-12-19 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

You can actually access it from a browser (ActiveX control):

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/recommended/TSAC/default.asp

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- Original Message -
From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere


 On Windows 2000, terminal services is the way to go unless you need access
 from a browser.

 Jim


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 From: Ben Whalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:15 AM
 Subject: OT: VNC vs PC Anywhere


  Has anyone had any experience using VNC from ATT - it seems reasonably
 good
  (and free) at first glance. Anything I should be aware of if we were to
 use
  it on a production box?
 
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Re: Report Utilities

2001-12-19 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

PDF is the way to go.  If the format of the form is static (and only the
data changes) look at using FDF; otherwise, I'd recommend something like
ActivePDF (though I've heard some that HTMLDoc, a freeware EXE, works pretty
good too)

---
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- Original Message -
From: Douglas Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:45 AM
Subject: Report Utilities


 We have serveral clients requesting the ability to print preformated
forms.
 The same data is used but the printer and form variations are amost
 impossible to consider.

 Are there any good quality com objects, other pluggins available to allow
 remote printing of reports and forms?

 We're cosidering a CF to PDF tag, Crystal ( Seagate ) Reports or
attempting
 to interface with Access's reporting facility.

 it anyone has any suggestions, they'd be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks.
 Douglas


 
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Re: Credit Card, TAG/Questions

2001-12-19 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I seriously doubt it would be that easy.  Some processors utilize an HTTP
post, some use a get, some have you tie into an API at a low level, etc.  As
such, there's no way of knowing if it integrates the same way as Authorize -
if noone has written anything, you'll need to code it yourself.  On the plus
side, perhaps you can sell your code if you're the first.  (nothing like an
unbroached market!)

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- Original Message -
From: Michael Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:54 AM
Subject: Credit Card, TAG/Questions


 I am going with a company called Firepay for my online transactions.  Do
you think it would be easy to just copy the authorize_3 custom tag, change
the info to fit firepay and use that?
 Has anyone used these guys before?

 Thanks

 Mike

 
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Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere

2001-12-19 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Not the server, but you can install the client.  (Windows XP Professional
does have a TS server though)

Go to the link I posted earlier.  Thee should be a link to the workstation
client.

Alternately, you can install the web version (same link) on any IIS box to
control a TS server.

---
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- Original Message -
From: David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: VNC vs PC Anywhere


 Can you install Terminal Server on Windows 2000 professional?

 I have it installed on some servers, but my workstation is professional
and
 pc anywhere is abit slow.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
 Subject: RE: VNC vs PC Anywhere


   Has anyone had any experience using VNC from ATT - it seems
reasonably
   good (and free) at first glance. Anything I should be aware of if we
   were to use it on a production box?
 
  Yes. By itself, it is pretty unsecure, while pcAnywhere isn't if
properly
  configured.
 
  If you want to use VNC securely, you can set it up to run through SSH,
but
  on Windows, you're probably better off using pcAnywhere or Terminal
 Server.
  I'm a big Terminal Server fan now - I can run it from a Pocket PC!
 
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  voice: (202) 797-5496
  fax: (202) 797-5444
 
 
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Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype

2001-12-18 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array.  If you want to see
the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes
the ADO calls and gets the results.

Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery?

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- Original Message -
From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM
Subject: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype


 I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process
of
 debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a
recordset,
 but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see
the
 data I am working with.
 I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that
 makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO
 recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting to
 convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes.
 If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just a
 limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around this?

 RDBMS == SQL Server...

 jon



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Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype

2001-12-18 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your
data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a
single CFQuery or a stored procedure).

You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them
in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag.

Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL?

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- Original Message -
From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype


 GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter,
in
 this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript.
 ADO is theorhetically platform independant.

 Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with
ASP
 or WSH, but  with cfquery, although nice  easy, is extremely limited in
this
 manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might
 update hundreds of rows in a normalized table.

 I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes
 advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then...

 jon
 - Original Message -
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype


  GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array.  If you want to
 see
  the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that
 makes
  the ADO calls and gets the results.
 
  Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery?
 
  ---
  Billy Cravens
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM
  Subject: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype
 
 
   I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the
 process
  of
   debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a
  recordset,
   but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to
see
  the
   data I am working with.
   I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if
 that
   makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the
 ADO
   recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting
 to
   convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes.
   If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just a
   limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around this?
  
   RDBMS == SQL Server...
  
   jon

 
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Re: Stressing SQL server

2001-12-18 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

A search on Google returned 905 results - a few of them actually pointed to
some valid resources.  I'd post some URL's, but I don't want to presume that
you have a web browser installed.

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- Original Message -
From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server


 Simply compile?  I am a CF developer, no compiling.  How in the world
would
 you think I would have the tools to compile?

 Neil

 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:25 PM
 Subject: RE: Stressing SQL server


  In the SQL 2K resource Kit, there's a data hammer component that can
be
  used for load testing SQL. It's in VB, simply compile and run.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:27 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Stressing SQL server
 
 
  Can anyone send me a block of code that I can use on a SQL 2000 server
 that
  will push CPU and memory to the limit?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Neil
 


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Re: Stressing SQL server

2001-12-18 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Actually, you were pointed to an excellent resource, but you disregarded it
and were practically antagonistic at the concept of using something you were
unfamiliar with. As such, can you expect much more than sarcasm?

---
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- Original Message -
From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server


 THAT is what I am missing.  Shoot.  You know where I can download a web
 browser?

 Man nice guy, with lots of help.  Thought I would go to my peers but
instead
 I get RTFM.

 Thanks a bunch!

 Neil

 - Original Message -
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server


  A search on Google returned 905 results - a few of them actually pointed
 to
  some valid resources.  I'd post some URL's, but I don't want to presume
 that
  you have a web browser installed.
 
  ---
  Billy Cravens
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server
 
 
   Simply compile?  I am a CF developer, no compiling.  How in the world
  would
   you think I would have the tools to compile?
  
   Neil
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Ron Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:25 PM
   Subject: RE: Stressing SQL server
  
  
In the SQL 2K resource Kit, there's a data hammer component that
can
  be
used for load testing SQL. It's in VB, simply compile and run.
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Stressing SQL server
   
   
Can anyone send me a block of code that I can use on a SQL 2000
server
   that
will push CPU and memory to the limit?
   
Thanks,
   
Neil
   
  
 
 
 
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Re: Could you give my application a once through

2001-12-18 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Looks like your server's down.

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- Original Message -
From: Robert Everland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: Could you give my application a once through


 Just finished my appplication and have already asked the fusebox
 people to give my application a once through, so I figured I would ask you
 guys too. Email me off list with the issues you find.


http://www.reactivevision.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.hotel_booking_en
 gine

 Go to the bottom where it says demo. Password for hoteladmin for hotel 1
is
 test.

 Robert Everland III
 Dixon Ticonderoga
 
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Re: Stressing SQL server

2001-12-18 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

There's no such thing has a block of TSQL that you can run that will
adequately stress your server.  Stressing is based on concurrency, not on
complexity.  If you don't want to use a tool, write your own in CF.  Write a
CFML page that executes something powerful and typical (like a three table
join on something like the Northwind database) and put this in a multi-frame
page, loading the page in each frame.  Put some code in each page that keeps
it refreshing.  (Details on this sort of thing are in Chris Cortes's book,
Optimizing ColdFusion)  Watch your server's resource meter, and see what
happens.

The resource kit specified is a very common one, and building a VB project
is very simple (File-Make Project)  I'm sure the list is full of developers
who would be willing to build this app for you.

---
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- Original Message -
From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server


 I was told to simply compile a program.  How simple is it get a VB
compiler
 and then compile code?  It would be easier for someone to suggest a piece
of
 transact SQL that would do the same.

 Neil

 - Original Message -
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server


  Actually, you were pointed to an excellent resource, but you disregarded
 it
  and were practically antagonistic at the concept of using something you
 were
  unfamiliar with. As such, can you expect much more than sarcasm?
 
  ---
  Billy Cravens
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server
 
 
   THAT is what I am missing.  Shoot.  You know where I can download a
web
   browser?
  
   Man nice guy, with lots of help.  Thought I would go to my peers but
  instead
   I get RTFM.
  
   Thanks a bunch!
  
   Neil
  
   - Original Message -
   From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:50 PM
   Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server
  
  
A search on Google returned 905 results - a few of them actually
 pointed
   to
some valid resources.  I'd post some URL's, but I don't want to
 presume
   that
you have a web browser installed.
   
---
Billy Cravens
   
- Original Message -
From: Neil H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Stressing SQL server
   
   
 Simply compile?  I am a CF developer, no compiling.  How in the
 world
would
 you think I would have the tools to compile?

 Neil

 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:25 PM
 Subject: RE: Stressing SQL server


  In the SQL 2K resource Kit, there's a data hammer component
that
  can
be
  used for load testing SQL. It's in VB, simply compile and run.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:27 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Stressing SQL server
 
 
  Can anyone send me a block of code that I can use on a SQL 2000
  server
 that
  will push CPU and memory to the limit?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Neil
 

   
   
  
 
 
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Re: Allaire Partner upgrades...

2001-12-18 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

So UD is considered an upgrade to CF Studio?  hahahahahahaha

I thought it was the other way around.

---
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- Original Message -
From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:25 PM
Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...


 We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our
upgrade
 to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got
a
 CD but it was ULTRADEV!!  We are still trying to get studio 5, based
on
 the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5,
and
 we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this.


 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades...


 ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be
 recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5?  I had been told
soon,
 but got no firm date a while back.


 Kevin Langevin
 Web Guy In Charge
 UsWebGuys
 954-327-5780


 -Original Message-
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype


 It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your
 data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into
a
 single CFQuery or a stored procedure).

 You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put
them
 in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag.

 Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL?

 ---
 Billy Cravens

 - Original Message -
 From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype


  GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the
  interpreter,
 in
  this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by
  VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant.
 
  Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy
  with
 ASP
  or WSH, but  with cfquery, although nice  easy, is extremely limited
  in
 this
  manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally
  might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table.
 
  I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that
  takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then...
 
  jon
  - Original Message -
  From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype
 
 
   GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array.  If you want
   to
  see
   the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object
   that
  makes
   the ADO calls and gets the results.
  
   Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery?
  
   ---
   Billy Cravens
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM
   Subject: CFObject ADO  the decimal datatype
  
  
I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the
  process
   of
debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a
   recordset,
but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able
to
 see
   the
data I am working with.
I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2
(if
  that
makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert
the
  ADO
recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error
attempting
  to
convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes.
If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just
a limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around this?
   
RDBMS == SQL Server...
   
jon
 
 


 
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Re: Just when you thought the topic of locking was completelyexhausted...

2001-12-17 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

So would it simply not access the code within the lock?

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- Original Message -
From: Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:49 AM
Subject: RE: Just when you thought the topic of locking was
completelyexhausted...


 The timeout is in seconds. How long it takes to obtain a lock, depends
 on the other locks in the application, the code in them, the number of
 usrs on your site,  In short: it depends.

 If throwontimeout = no, CF will just continue executing after the
 /cflock without generating an error.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: maandag 17 december 2001 12:37
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Just when you thought the topic of locking was
 completelyexhausted...


 I have a couple of questions about locking. Now, before you groan, I
 *do* know how I should be locking, where I should be locking, and why.

 What I am unclear on is exactly what the effects of using different
 values for timeout and throwontimout. I presume timeout is in seconds;
 how long should the average application require to obtain a lock? When
 should I set this value higher or lower? What is the prctical effect of
 having it too high or too low?

 Also, throwontimeout - if I set this to yes, I presume I should then be
 using cftry and cfcatch to handle the timeout? What if it's set to no?
 Will the request keep trying to obtain a lock?

 Any insight would be really great... I'm hoping to take the
 certification exam in January, and there's so many niggly areas where I
 just *have* to know :)

 Thanks,
 Kay.

 
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Re: Can we have two datasources with the same name?

2001-12-14 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I used to make that same mistake.  However, if you use #application.dsn#,
that means that you have to lock every query - this really hurts
performance.  Use a non-shared scope (like request)

---
Billy Cravens

- Original Message -
From: Larry Juncker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: Can we have two datasources with the same name?


 If I understand what you are asking, why do you not just set your DSN as
 an Application variable?

 cfset Application.DataSource = dev or cfset Application.DataSource =
 test
 You would use whichever one you wanted while testing and then
 just change this one spot in your Application.cfm file when you
 were ready to go live.

 Create the ODBC connections and just call the correct one in your code.

 In your templates then, your queries would be like:

 CFQUERY NAME=qMyQuery DATASOURCE=#Application.DataSource#

 Larry Juncker
 Senior Cold Fusion Developer
 Heartland Communications Group, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: bajaria aslam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Can we have two datasources with the same name?


 Hi.

 Suppose I have a datasource datasource1 pointing to
 Database1 on a SQL Server called test.

 Can I have another datasource called datasource1
 pointing to Database1 on SQL Server called dev?

 The datasource1 currently works fine on
 http://localhost/

 I have created a virtual site called
 http://localhost/Dev

 So, is there a way to have the same datasource name to
 point to different servers depending on if I am under
 http://localhost/ or http://localhost/dev?

 That way, I thought, I don't have to keep changing the
 cf code when the code moves to Test server from Dev.

 Please let me know if you need more details.

 Thanks
 AB

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Re: CF and JS

2001-12-14 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Yes, and no.  CF is server-side; it's interaction with the browser consists
of just HTTP POST and GET, which has nothing to do with JS.  However, you
can have the browser tell CF if JS is enabled.

in your application.cfm:
cfparam name=session.hasJS default=no

in your first page on your site:
script
document.write(img src=\js.cfm\);
/script

in js.cfm:
cfcontent type=image/gif file=c:\trans.gif deletefile=No
cfset session.hasJS = yes


(I omitted CFLOCK for brevity - always CFLOCK session vars)

In the first page in the session, session.hasJS will be no - but afterwards,
it will be yes if they have it turned on.

---
Billy Cravens


- Original Message -
From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:56 AM
Subject: CF and JS


 Is there anyway to detect if a browser has javascript enabled/disabled
using
 CF?

 Michael T. Tangorre

 
 Resident Assistant - Brick
 Web Applications Developer
 A.U. Webteam Slave  :-)
 AIM: CrazyFlash4
 

 
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Re: OT(apologies)

2001-12-14 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Don't forget the pinnacle of objective news reporting,
www.nationalenquirer.com

---
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- Original Message -
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: OT(apologies)


 www.whitehouse.com

 On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Kris Pilles wrote:

  half.com victorias secret.com
  New York State
  New Mexico
  Federal Government
  Aol (corporate site)
  Eminem.com
 
  Theres tons of them
 
  Kris Pilles
  Website Manager
  Western Suffolk BOCES
  507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
  Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Moneymaker, Jon S CONT (WPNSTA Yorktown)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:37 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: OT(apologies)
 
 
  Ok, I have lurked on this list for some time now and remember some time
ago
  a brief flurry of activity about who uses CF in the real world.
  I seem to recall a list somewhere or an article someone wrote about some
of
  the big companies who use CF
  I was asked this question the other day and could only come up with a
  couple(I choked actually).
 
  any help would be appreciated.
 
  Ya'll (guess what part of the country I am in) are great
 
  Jon S. Moneymaker
  Network Administrator
 
 
 
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Re: Can we have two datasources with the same name?

2001-12-14 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Of course, it's a good idea to stick it in request scope in case you need
the DSN for any custom tags, etc.

---
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- Original Message -
From: Shawn Grover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: Can we have two datasources with the same name?


 I agree.  I don't see any reason why a DSN needs to be in the Application,
 or Server scope.
 I normally just set this as a normal variable in the Application.cfm file.

 ie.
 cfset MyDSN = DSN Name
 or
 cfscript
 // declare Application Level Constants
 App = structnew();
 StructInsert(App, DSN, CAA_EPMS2);
 /cfscript

 then call it like so:

 cfquery name=MyQuery datasource=#MyDSN#
 or
 cfquery name=MyQuery datasource=#App.DSN#

 Then, for an application wide setting, I simply need to change the value
in
 Application.cfm.

 If you were on different servers, you could use the same DSN name, but
 unfortunately you are not.  So you will need two distinct DSNs. (assuming
 the development site, and the production site are running simultaneously,
on
 the same box).

 HTH

 Shawn Grover


 -Original Message-
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Can we have two datasources with the same name?


 I used to make that same mistake.  However, if you use #application.dsn#,
 that means that you have to lock every query - this really hurts
 performance.  Use a non-shared scope (like request)

 ---
 Billy Cravens

 - Original Message -
 From: Larry Juncker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:46 PM
 Subject: RE: Can we have two datasources with the same name?


  If I understand what you are asking, why do you not just set your DSN as
  an Application variable?
 
  cfset Application.DataSource = dev or cfset Application.DataSource
=
  test
  You would use whichever one you wanted while testing and then
  just change this one spot in your Application.cfm file when you
  were ready to go live.
 
  Create the ODBC connections and just call the correct one in your code.
 
  In your templates then, your queries would be like:
 
  CFQUERY NAME=qMyQuery DATASOURCE=#Application.DataSource#
 
  Larry Juncker
  Senior Cold Fusion Developer
  Heartland Communications Group, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: bajaria aslam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:36 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Can we have two datasources with the same name?
 
 
  Hi.
 
  Suppose I have a datasource datasource1 pointing to
  Database1 on a SQL Server called test.
 
  Can I have another datasource called datasource1
  pointing to Database1 on SQL Server called dev?
 
  The datasource1 currently works fine on
  http://localhost/
 
  I have created a virtual site called
  http://localhost/Dev
 
  So, is there a way to have the same datasource name to
  point to different servers depending on if I am under
  http://localhost/ or http://localhost/dev?
 
  That way, I thought, I don't have to keep changing the
  cf code when the code moves to Test server from Dev.
 
  Please let me know if you need more details.
 
  Thanks
  AB
 
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Re: NTConsoleJava Tieing Up Resources

2001-12-14 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

link to cf5 hotfixes:

http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=20371Method=Full#50


---
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- Original Message -
From: Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: NTConsoleJava Tieing Up Resources


 I had the same problem a couple of days ago.  It is a known problem by MM
 and there's a patch on www.allaire.com.  I don't remember the exact url,
 but if you go there and do a  search you'll find it.

 Nick Han

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/01 03:34AM 
 I'm running Windows XP Pro with IIS and CF 5.

 When I log into my computer (or turn it on, whatever), during the startup
 process (after logging on, so the desktop is showing and startup
 items/services are starting up) NTConsoleJava.exe uses up all spare CPUs
 (which makes the computer run very slowly).  The only way to speed it up
 is
 to kill the process.

 I originally thought this had something to do with my current version of
 my
 JVM on Windows.  However, I just discovered that NTConsoleJava.exe is in
 the
 cfusion directory, so I assume it's related to ColdFusion.

 Is there anything I can do to either 1) Stop NTConsoleJava from using up
 all
 my spare CPUs or 2) Stop NTConsoleJava from running at startup?  I looked
 in
 the CF Admin, and the closest I could find is to not load the JVM when CF
 starts up, but that was already turned off.

 Thanks!

 Scott
 --
 Scott Brady
 http://www.scottbrady.net/


 
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Re: How to take only a CUSTID number from XML code

2001-12-14 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

It's a hack, but it should work:

cfscript
xml = cfhttp.fileContent;
pos1 = find(string,xml);
pos2 = find(,xml,pos1);
xml=removeChars(xml,1,pos2);
pos3 = find(/string,xml);
str = removeChars(xml,pos3,len(xml));
/cfscript

When I grow up, I'll become a RegEx guru :-)

---
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: How to take only a CUSTID number from XML code


 How would you take out only the customer ID number from the following XML
 response from a CFHTTP post:

 This is the response that comes from the server we do the CFHTTP post to.


 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 string xmlns=http://tempuri.org/;892028/string


 We need to take out only the '892028' number and insert it into our
 database. Right now it tries to insert all the XML code. The customer ID
is
 always in the same place in the code as far as position in the code.
Thanks
 in advance for any help.
 
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Re: How to take only a CUSTID number from XML code

2001-12-14 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Yeah, but wouldn't the overhead of instantiating the object be overkill with
such a little packet?

---
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- Original Message -
From: Scott Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: How to take only a CUSTID number from XML code


 You could actually parse the xml using something similar to the following:

 cfset XML = cfhttp.filecontent

 !---Call Microsoft XML Parser---
 CFOBJECT TYPE=COM NAME=objSource CLASS=Microsoft.XMLDOM
 ACTION=CREATE

 !--- load XML source and check readyState ---
 CFSET objSource.async = false
 CFSET sourceReturn = objSource.loadXML(XML)
 CFSET sourceReady = objSource.readyState

 CFSET child_nodes = objSource.getElementsByTagName(string)

 CFLOOP COLLECTION=#child_nodes# ITEM=anElement
   CFSET CUSTID = anElement.text
 /CFLOOP



 -Original Message-
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:27 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: How to take only a CUSTID number from XML code


 It's a hack, but it should work:

 cfscript
 xml = cfhttp.fileContent;
 pos1 = find(string,xml);
 pos2 = find(,xml,pos1);
 xml=removeChars(xml,1,pos2);
 pos3 = find(/string,xml);
 str = removeChars(xml,pos3,len(xml));
 /cfscript

 When I grow up, I'll become a RegEx guru :-)

 ---
 Billy Cravens


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:06 PM
 Subject: Re: How to take only a CUSTID number from XML code


  How would you take out only the customer ID number from the following
XML
  response from a CFHTTP post:
 
  This is the response that comes from the server we do the CFHTTP post
to.
 
 
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
  string xmlns=http://tempuri.org/;892028/string
 
 
  We need to take out only the '892028' number and insert it into our
  database. Right now it tries to insert all the XML code. The customer ID
 is
  always in the same place in the code as far as position in the code.
 Thanks
  in advance for any help.
 

 
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Re: Trimming Files

2001-12-11 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Parse the file as a list, with a carriage return as your delimiter.  Each
list element will represent a line.  ListDeleteAt() any lines that are
empty.

cfset lineNum = 1
cfloop index=thisLine list=#fileContents# delimiters=#chr(10)#
 cfif not len(trim(thisLine))
  cfset fileContents = listDeleteAt(list,lineNum,chr(10))
 cfelse
 cfset lineNum = lineNum + 1
 /cfif
/cfloop

---
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- Original Message -
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:40 AM
Subject: Trimming Files


 Does anyone have a quick way to trim extra lines from a text file?

 I have an app that uploads a text file and processes it as a TSV file, but
 some users are exporting from MS Access, which is adding some extra line
 feeds to the end.  Any suggestions?

 C. Hatton Humphrey, Developer
 Fisher, Towne  Associates
 716-839-2141 x336
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Re: Writing to text file

2001-12-11 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

add a line break using #chr(10)#:
output=CFOUTPUT query=hello#fname#,#lname##chr(10)#
/CFOUTPUT

or, the really slow method:

you only create a new file on the first record - so do an append if you're
doing record 2+

cfoutput qurey=hello
cfif currentRow eq 1
cfset action = WRITE
cfelse
cfset action=APPEND
/cfif
cffile action=#action# file=test.txt output=#fname#,#lname#
addnewline=Yes
/cfoutput

---

Billy Cravens

- Original Message -
From: Mookie Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: Writing to text file


 why can't I do this?  i mean, I need to do this!!  because i have to
put
 over 3,000 names   How can I loop over a write CFFILE tag?  because
it
 would keep making new files.  why can't i put it all in one single thing?
I
 was also thinking putting all that info in one variable, but how do I
 specify a line break in that variable?  that line break is important,
 because Access reads it as a new row.  grr!!!


 output=CFOUTPUT query=hello#fname#,#lname#
 /CFOUTPUT







 From: Adkins, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Writing to text file
 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:31:00 -0500
 
 If you need to nest the output of a query within the CFOUTPUT tags,
 simply use the CFLOOP function.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mookie Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:27 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Writing to text file
 
 
 hey guys, I am doing a CFFILE and writing to a NEW file (not appending).
i
 am tyring to input information in text delimited from a query.  how do I
do
 this though?  i cannot put CFOUTPUT query=whatever inside the output.
 help!
 
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Re: javascript or html to crash netscape or IE

2001-12-11 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I know that this chunk in an .htm by itself will take down NS4:

tabletd width=1style=width:1div style=width:11
scriptdocument.write('div style=width:1')/script
/table


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- Original Message -
From: Ron Hornbaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: javascript or html to crash netscape or IE


  I need a snippet of javascript/html/dhtml/css/whatever that will cause
  Netscape or IE to crash reliably so I can test something.  I
  have certainly
  managed to crash them in the past but can't find the code that
  did it.  Any
  ideas?

 http://www.netscape.com/ usually does it for me. ;)

 Seriously, crash how? Throw a JS error? Lock up the application? Lock up
 the computer? Lock up the house, and cause your toilets to overflow and
 your wife's hairdryer to catch fire? Be specific, man. :)

 -Ron

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Re: CFContent

2001-12-11 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

What MIME type are you passing?

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- Original Message -
From: Janine Jakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:59 PM
Subject: CFContent


 I'm using CFCONTENT to call a pdf form- It does fine on MAC IE and most pc
 IE and Netscape.
 However, on one browser a 98 machine with IE5.5 I can't get the pdf to
show.
 Instead there is the box and the msg says Error Locating Object Handler
 There is no viewer available for the type of object you are trying to
open.
 The following informantion is available about this object.
 Address:  http://blahblah
 Content type:  text/html
 Possible location of viewer: Microsoft ActiveXGallery

 I took the Ben Forta advice and checked the Folder Options in Tools of
 Windows Explorer.  I went over it piece by piece comparing it to the
 settings of a browser that worked- I didn't see any differences.
 This browser has opened pdfs when I used the meta tag and the embed tag so
I
 know that it does open pdfs...any suggestions?
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: Hi

2001-12-10 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Of course, picture 2 scenarios:

1) your application is unsecure, but it only cost you $5000 to develop it
2) your app is locked down, but the extra time to develop made the final
cost $10,000

Now let's say that in both situations the client was going to pay $20,000,
even if they knew that the app was insecure.  As much as I like quality, to
quote the great philosopher, Sean Combs, it's all about the Benjamins
baby.  :- )

Microsoft has no incentive to make secure products (if they wanted to, with
the resources at their disposal, they could make the most secure products on
Earth).  The same people who jump on the MS=bad bandwagon are the same
people who buy MS products.  (Perhaps .NET will change this - short term
subscriptions, as opposed to lifetime liscenses, could be more of a market
catalyst)

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- Original Message -
From: Costas Piliotis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


 Right.  How many developers does microsoft have that it can allocate to
 breaking into its software.  How many hackers are there worldwide?  I'll
bet
 I'm not the first to admit that I've left features in my code as well.
 Sometimes, clients have a way of finding them that I never thought of.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:04 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Hi


  If you were developing a ColdFusion Application that would be
  used by thousands worldwide, and you had pockets as deep as
  Microsoft, how likely would it be that the application could
  be hacked in dozens of different ways? How tough would it be
  to spend a couple of million to have a team of hackers go at
  it, BEFORE you release it? Better yet, release a hacker beta,
  and hand out wads of cash to whoever discovers holes. They
  haven't made it a priority. Expedient release is the priority.

 That's right - expedient release is certainly high on their priority list.
 That's how you get those deep pockets, you know.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444
 
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Re: How do people work around the current limited cfmail

2001-12-10 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

have you analyzed your undeliverable folder and your logs?  I've found that
when mail isn't going, it's usually an SMTP config issue.

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- Original Message -
From: Larry W. Virden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: How do people work around the current limited cfmail


 At least 2-3 times in the past week we've had developers and users
scurrying
 around trying to figure out why their ColdFusion apps were not delivering
 mail, with the final reason being that someone had mistyped one of a
 series of email addresses.

 I was just curious what others are doing about this sort of thing?
 What I sure wish were available was a way to a) get msgs out to all
 valid ids, b) bounce errors back to an Errors-To: header.
 --
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Re: How do people work around the current limited cfmail

2001-12-10 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Easily done - CFSCHEDULE  a task that checks the undeliverable folder, loops
through the files, and emails them to whoever, and then deletes them from
the folder

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- Original Message -
From: Larry W. Virden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: How do people work around the current limited cfmail


  have you analyzed your undeliverable folder and your logs?  I've found
that
  when mail isn't going, it's usually an SMTP config issue.

 Actually, the two most recent cases were places where users had typed
 in incorrect email addresses.

 The bottom line is that I would MUCH rather the person responsible for
 a CF app get the failures and deal with them than me.

 And I would prefer NOT to give everyone access to all the undelivered
msgs -
 there might be something confidential in a msg.
 --
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Re: Anyone else get solicited? FW: CFX ImageCR

2001-12-10 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Looks like a decent product - too bad they just ruined their credibility by
using SPAM

Perhaps they can get in good graces by posting in a message to the list,
typed 100 times:
I will not resort to pathetic, slimy marketing tactics  :-)

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- Original Message -
From: Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: Anyone else get solicited? FW: CFX ImageCR


 No. but i agree that that is pretty poor form, and i wouldn't be happy if
 they had emailed this to me.

 will


 -Original Message-
 From: Kelly Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 10 December 2001 18:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Anyone else get solicited? FW: CFX ImageCR


 Did anyone else get solicited by these people? They snatched my email
 address off CF-Talk... not appreciated... really hate it when people do
 that!

 -Original Message-
 From: Efflare Systems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:47 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CFX ImageCR


 Based on your input on the cf-talk mailing list, I thought you might be
 interested in knowing about the recent public release of cfx ImageCR.

 http://efflare.com/products/cfx_imagecr/?12


 
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Re: Test time

2001-12-10 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I'm not having any problem seeing the time of each message - they appear
correct.  Perhaps it's an issue with your mail client/server.

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- Original Message -
From: Won [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: Test time


 I must apologize for the swarm of test messages that I am posting. But
 as most of you know, CF-TALK receives a large volume of messages/mail
 everyday.  Not being able to sort by date is not an option for me.  So
 if I can't get it to work by a few more tries, I will stop polluting
 your inboxes with my useless messages/mails.

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Re: CfLocation ?

2001-12-10 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Use hidden frames.
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- Original Message -
From: Eric J Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: CfLocation ?


 Is it possible to use cflocation after a cfcontent download?  I can't seem
 to make it work.

 Client clicks ok after selecting file, cf goes to the action page and the
 server finishes upload, the file is moved for storage, then cfcontent
 initiates a download...after that all seems to stop even though I have a
 cflocation after it so the client is moved back the beginning of the
 process.

 Any ideas how to get that to happen?

 Eric J Hoffman
 Director of Internet Development
 Small Dog Design, LLC
 www.smalldogdesign.com

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Re: CFX Single Thread question

2001-12-07 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

How will you manage calling these tags?  This could only be most effective
if you evenly distribute calls across your cluster, but there's no way in
CF to do that (no way to do that cfx_tag1_#var# )

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- Original Message -
From: Kevin Pechin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:47 AM
Subject: CFX Single Thread question


 Hello All,

 I have two cfx questions.  If you have two single threaded cfx tags
registered and running on the server (both exclusively locked) is it
possible that both can execute at the same time as different processes, or
do they both fall under the cfserver process and therefor only one executes
at a time?

 And for the second question (which kinda depends on the answer to the
first one), if you have a single threaded cfx tag and then copy the tag
physically on the server (i.e.  cfx_tag1.dll, cfx_tag1_2.dll, cfx_tag1_3.dll
..) and register each instance in the cfadmin, is each one a separate
single threaded operation which can be locked and randomly called?  If so
this could be a potential boost in performance since we can launch multiple
processes (of course if you add too many it will eat memory).

 Food for thought!

 -Kevin Pechin
 Hofstra University
 Web Development

 
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Re: Dynamic PDF products for Unix?

2001-12-07 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Unix or Linux?  I know that there's a number of libraries (many are open
source - look up pdf at Sourceforge - www.sf.net) for generating PDF's.  You
don't have the ease of ActivePDF's COM interface, but the libraries have
the advantage of being very lightweight, like most things in the Unix world.
Of course, you'll have to write some Java or C++, but you wouldn't have
moved to *nix if you wanted to do things the easy way.

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- Original Message -
From: Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:30 AM
Subject: Dynamic PDF products for Unix?


 I would like to generate dynamic PDFs from ColdFusion. When I was in a
 Windows environment, activePDF was a great solution for this. However, it
is
 not supported in Unix, and that's the evironment I'm now in. Do any of you
 CF/Unix users have experience with reliable PDF generators from CF?

 Thanks in advance,
 Dave.


 
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Re: ISAPI URL Remapping Filter

2001-12-07 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

This seems to work:

- map the website to a directory with nothing in it, except an index.htm or
index.cfm that does a redirect
- map your 404 custom handler to a .cfm file that captures cgi.script_name
and cgi.query_string and redirects to where you want (it'll take an extra
bit of effort to capture HTTP POST's, but it shouldn't be too much trouble)
- make sure that you setup the custom handler in both cf and iis

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- Original Message -
From: Angelo McComis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: ISAPI URL Remapping Filter


 James

 One way that comes to mind is this:

 1/ Create a handler.cfm that examines the URL, query string, post
 data, and all that stuff.

 2/ make it the default file for the site (so naming it index.cfm would
 work on most installations)

 3/ In IIS, set it to be the custom 404 handler as well.

 In the logic for this, you could do any combination of cfswitch/cfcase
 statements looking for combinations of hostname, URI, etc. Then, do
 CFLocation or meta-refresh (or whatever you need to do) to the request
 to send the browser where it needs to go.


 Angelo


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cordiner,
 James
 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: ISAPI URL Remapping Filter


 Hi,

 I am looking for some kind of filter for IIS4 (an ISAPI filter maybe?),
 that would take requests for a page and perform a search and replace on
 the content before returning it. This would be to have URLs re-mapped,
 from something like http://www.somedomain.com to
 http://192.168.0.1/somedir .

 I would try to do this in CF somehow but I just can't see how. For one,
 not all our pages have been switched over to CF and just the conversion
 at this immediate point in time would make it unfeasable.

 jms.

 James Cordiner
 New Media Developer/Programmer
 Art Gallery of Ontario
 317 Dundas Street West
 Toronto, Canada  M5T 1G4

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Re: Hi

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Keep in mind that most of the exploits aren't due to explicit features, they
are usually COM-based.  As such, it's not the application that's at fault,
it the extensibility.


- Original Message -
From: Lee Surma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Hi


 If P-mail were as popular as Outlook, it would be targetted and
exploited.

 You don't hear about Pegasus Mail viruses because it doesn't have the
 userbase that Outlook does.

 If you were developing a ColdFusion Application that would be used by
 thousands worldwide, and you had pockets as deep as Microsoft, how likely
 would it be that the application could be hacked in dozens of different
 ways? How tough would it be to spend a couple of million to have a team of
 hackers go at it, BEFORE you release it? Better yet, release a hacker
beta,
  and hand out wads of cash to whoever discovers holes. They haven't made
 it a priority. Expedient release is the priority.
 --


 Lee Surma
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 
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Re: SQL?

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

In those situations, I usually have a weight column - these contain
integers that allow you to order by:

tblRichPeople
---
person   weight
------
Bill Gates1
Michael Jordan3
Steve Jobs2
Billy Cravens4

select person from tblRichPeople order by weight

- Original Message -
From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:32 AM
Subject: SQL?


 I have a page where I am dynamically creating 20 dropdowns from a query,
 and what I need to be able to do is order it exactly how I want. I
 cannot use asc or desc. Is this possible in SQL? Maybe ordering it by
 column names or something?



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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

To avoid Nimda, CodeRed, et al, I usually leave the network cable unplugged
when installing.  I then disable IIS, replug the network cable, install SP,
then turn IIS back on.  Pretty simple.

Personally, I think it's OK to get blocked.. as long as notification and
retesting happen in a timely fashion.I agree that the whole process
could be done in a matter of minutes rather than hours.

I still believe that you are responsible for the consequences of your
configuration.

- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


 Bryan Stevenson wrote:

  It's the fact that the legit folks get nailed as well.
 
  Listen..we all agree that spam is evil...we all agree that mail servers
  should not be open.BUT is it so bad to give the folks running the
server
  a chance to fix it first??


 I would also very much like a chance to update my Win2K to SP2 and
 supply some security fixes directly after install, but Nimda always gets
 there first. Shouldn't I get a chance to fix it first?

 Face it, it is the way things work. You may not like it this way because
 you were running an Open Relay and got locked out, but I like it this
 way. And I control what email gets through to my server.


  My issue is that once found to be open it is
  incredibly difficult to get off the blacklist.  This means that legit
folks
  can be without mail for a long time.  Even if ORDB continues to aid in
  stopping legit mail, they could at least invest in some decent hardware
and
  bandwidth.  I mean 5-10 hours to test a mail server is so ridiculous
it's
  not funny.  If they are going to keep it up then the test should be
avble to
  be performed in a matter of minutes and not hours.


 Actually, hardware and bandwidth are not the issue, sufficient testing
 clones spread around the globe and testing interval randomization are
 the issue. If they simply used 1 IP to do all the testing it would be
 pretty simple to lock out that IP. If they use more but test immediately
 it is still very easy to lock out their IPs.

 Jochem
 
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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I'll agree that a blackhole list for web servers is a great idea.
Definitely a far greater risk and traffic waste than open relays.

- Original Message -
From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: OT: SPAM lists?


 the anti-spam passion always gets funny :)

 a similar but certainly costly non blockable, but regulated by bad laws,
is
 the legislation they passed on unsolicited fax transmissions...

 then again, I bet everyone doesn't attack their postman/post office about
 all the unsolicited paper form junk mail they receive :)

 even if a mail server being open is theoretically bad and your blocking it
 prevents some mail from flowing through it we are talking about hindering
 another's ability to provide service in an open environment... certainly
 whoever, raises any suit will notably sue both those blocking and ORBZ
then.

 blocking because of risk is bad bad bad.. it is unproven... the likelihood
 that someone is going to do something wrong is unfounded until it
happens...
 the impact on public health and safety therefore is about 0.

 the whole over reactive security aka I hate spam approach is way too
far...
 whether a relay is open because it is, or admin hasn't hardened it or it
is
 testing or a number of other things...

 I say this all because we handle near 500 domains across various platforms
 and they certainly receive a lot of spam... but it hardly is something
that
 even causes much effort more than a few delete key presses..

 ORBZ service is just horrible... basically wait for days... configure,
 reconfigure, etc

 I wish ORBZ would write a crawler to find security holes in others web
 servers then destroy their DNS ability/records since they haven't
patched...
 now that would be nice.. sure would cut down on all that spare traffic
 absorbed by admins who haven't patched or won't in months. Now that would
be
 useful :)

 -paris


 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:37
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


 It's the fact that the legit folks get nailed as well.

 Listen..we all agree that spam is evil...we all agree that mail servers
 should not be open.BUT is it so bad to give the folks running the
server
 a chance to fix it first??  My issue is that once found to be open it is
 incredibly difficult to get off the blacklist.  This means that legit
folks
 can be without mail for a long time.  Even if ORDB continues to aid in
 stopping legit mail, they could at least invest in some decent hardware
and
 bandwidth.  I mean 5-10 hours to test a mail server is so ridiculous it's
 not funny.  If they are going to keep it up then the test should be avble
to
 be performed in a matter of minutes and not hours.

 They suckI'm right...so na na na na naaa ;-)

 Bryan Stevenson
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 p. 250.920.8830
 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 
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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

True - I wasn't thinking of malicious attacks, I was thinking of SPAM.

- Original Message - 
From: Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


 I'll agree that a blackhole list for web servers is a great idea.
 Definitely a far greater risk and traffic waste than open relays.
 
 You can only say that since you haven't been the victim of a mutli-week,
 high-source-bandwidth DoS and other malicious attacks mounted through
 1000's and 1000's of open relays world-wide.
 
 Len
 
 
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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

No disrespect intended, but I would say that you should have been aware of
the potential issues.

Lazy and incompetent are strong terms.  Perhaps irresponsibly
negligent is better.

If someone spreads viruses because their virus scanner didn't tell them they
had to update it, that's negligence.  If someone doesn't patch IIS and
spreads CodeRed, Nimda, et al,  to everyone and their dog, that's
negligence.  Negligence and innocence are not synonymous.

You are responsible for the consequences of your configuration.

---
Billy Cravens

- Original Message -
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


 Well Len thanks for calling me lazy and incompetent.  Until I got
 blacklisted I did not know about open relays.  So how does that put me in
 either category?  The mail server I was running had no documentation about
 the possible abuse of or even the existence of open relays.  I'm the first
 to admit that my face was red when I found out that the situation existed
 and I dropped everything else I was doing and fixed it immeadiately.  I
can
 guarantee you that had I received a warning, it would certainly would have
 energized me to deal with the situation.

 Please watch those blanket statements in the future...because I am far
from
 lazy or incompetent...you weenie ;-)

 Bryan Stevenson
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 p. 250.920.8830
 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
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Re: query name vs. query object

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

If your query is actually #request.thequery#, that variable becomes an
object, not a string (the name of your query).  Before your CFQuery tag, try
dumping the name of your query into a separate string

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- Original Message -
From: Alexander just me Apartsev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:19 PM
Subject: query name vs. query object


 Hello All,

 i have a custom tag making a query. I would like to access its results in
 another custom tag or else in the calling template.

 The custom tag making the query is called from another custom tag.

 CFOUTPUT query=#request.thequery# doesn't work cause it needs a
literal,
 not a query object.

 Is there a solution?

 Thanks in advance

 Alexander Apartsev
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: CF Forums Discussion Forums - Where can I find the source?

2001-12-06 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Bizarre - either the site has been blown away, or they have a configuration
issue (the site that comes up is the hoster)

---
Billy Cravens

- Original Message -
From: Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: CF Forums Discussion Forums - Where can I find the source?


 I need to setup a discussion forum and would like to use cfforums, where
can
 I download the free open source to customize?
 I tried forumspot.org but their site is gone.

 Thanks,
 Dave




 
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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-05 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I would agree that it would be best to give a warning with an opportunity to
fix the problem.  However, the fact that your relay was open is the source
of the problem.  If I found myself in the appropriate role, upon hearing of
open relays in my company I'd start handing out directions to the local
unemployment office.  If you can't configure it properly, don't run it.


- Original Message -
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


  To go back to your gun analogy,
  we are restricted in possession and use of guns in order to reduce the
  likelihood of homicides.  Otherwise, I should be able to carry a locked
 and
  loaded gun anywhere I choose.
 
  open relay MX's lying around will be picked up by spammers and used as
  weapons.  Running an open relay is inexcusable.
 
  Len

 And shutting people down with no warning is also inexusable

 Bryan

 
 
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Re: Hi

2001-12-05 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I think the reason it's cracked so much is that Microsoft's strengths are
their weaknesses.  Their strength in the market means that many hackers
are running Windows as well as other MS apps, thus, they will crack what
they know.  Plus, it's a target.  Plus, it's incredibly easy to exploit -
the COM interfaces that make Microsoft application (and those that support
COM) easier extend also make them easier to crack.

- Original Message -
From: Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: Hi


 Sure, but presumably vulnerabilities exist in more or less all software?
The
 desire to crack them is that much greater in the case of MS for several
 reasons:

 1) Market saturation. So many people use these products that it may be
more
 'beneficial' to crack them.
 2) Hatred of M$ and what it stands for.
 3) Vulnerabilities are often well known, and have existed for years

 w

 -Original Message-
 From: Zac Belado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 05 December 2001 16:15
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Hi


  If P-mail were as popular as Outlook, it would be targetted and
exploited.
  You don't hear about Pegasus Mail viruses because it doesn't have the
  userbase that Outlook does.

 Complete and utter rubbish.

 Outlook, Windows Scripting and the entire Office macro system is riddled
 with security holes and this has been the case for years. Microsoft built
 the system, Microsoft made it insecure and Microsoft continues to ship
apps
 and system level options that are enabled by default making them prime
 targets for exploitation by hackers.

 It is MS that builds the insecure systems. Virus writers take advantage of
 the vulnerabilities and problems in the system...they don't make them.

 
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Re: Hi - DROP IT! NO MORE REPLIES PLEASE!

2001-12-05 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

No doubt - if people spent as much time updating their virus scanners or
locking down their servers as they did bitching about the merits/problems
with [enter platform/application here], we'd all be so secure we'd have
nothing to worry about.

- Original Message -
From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Hi - DROP IT! NO MORE REPLIES PLEASE!


 OK - I'm sorry for saying somebody slap this guy!

 I should have realised it would have kicked off a massive my email client
 is better than yours and who's the moron discussion.

 I've seen this discussion more than enough of the past 6 months, so can
just
 leave it alone and get back to the business of CF development.

 Thank you very very much in advance

 Regards

 Stephen
 
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Re: CF NT to AIX box without CF

2001-12-05 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Nothing built into CF.  Something like PGP would probably work.

- Original Message -
From: Kris Pilles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:55 PM
Subject: CF NT to AIX box without CF


 Ok. I have a file that I want to encrypt on my NT box Then our
 accounting system will FTP up... grab the file and take it down to Unix
and
 decrypt it.  Anyone know of a quick and painless way I can do this?  Or
have
 any suggestions on as to how I can acheive this ?

 Thanks for your help!


 Kris Pilles
 Website Manager
 Western Suffolk BOCES
 507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
 Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: CF NT to AIX box without CF

2001-12-05 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Sounds like you forgot the minor detail of decrypting it.  :)

- Original Message -
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: CF NT to AIX box without CF


 You need a FTP server running on your NT box. Other than that you would do
 exactly what you wrote.
 You encrypt the file and put it in an FTP accessible directory.
 The unix machine runs its client and picksup the file.
 FTP ntbox.you.com
 user
 pass
 get encryptedfile
 quit



 On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Kris Pilles wrote:

  Ok. I have a file that I want to encrypt on my NT box Then our
  accounting system will FTP up... grab the file and take it down to Unix
and
  decrypt it.  Anyone know of a quick and painless way I can do this?  Or
have
  any suggestions on as to how I can acheive this ?
 
  Thanks for your help!
 
 
  Kris Pilles
  Website Manager
  Western Suffolk BOCES
  507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
  Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: Dynamic creation of hidden fields

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

On the later template, you can use CFParam to provide default values for all
form fields:

cfparam name=form.soundCard default=

- Original Message -
From: Douglas Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:01 AM
Subject: Dynamic creation of hidden fields


 I have a page that will hold the configuration of a computer systems
 components in hidden fields. The components that are chosen is based on
 a column (isDefault) EQ yes.  Lets say that the computer does not have
 a default sound card (isDefault) EQ no how can I generate a hidden
 field with the value of  for the sound card? this is needed because of
 a template that looks for all the items later on down the tree.





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Re: anyone with a mac out there?

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

for cross-browser testing, take a look at this site:
http://www.netmechanic.com/browser-index.htm

- Original Message -
From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject: anyone with a mac out there?


 We are finishing up a Cold Fusion site for a client and the client swears
it
 doesn't work on someone's MAC...

 anyone out there have a moment and a MAC to give a look???

 -paris

 
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Re: Limitations in Missing Template Handler Template?

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

For CFInclude, you can use mapped paths (in CF Administrator) to clean your
pathing up.

- Original Message -
From: Jamie Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Limitations in Missing Template Handler Template?


 Okay, figured it out.

 Both cffile and cfinclude will work.

 With cffile you need to output the cffile variable, as opposed to
 letting cffile display it directly.

 With cfinclude the pathing is screwy. I used a bunch of
 up-directories (../) to get all the way to the root of the server
 drive, and then used absolute pathing to get back down to the file I
 wanted:

 cfinclude
 template=../../../../../../../../../../../websites/mysite/404.cfm


 Hope it helps someone.
 Jamie

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:39:01 -0500, in cf-talk you wrote:

 I've found that HTTP redirects and cflocations function properly,
 but they don't quite have the behavior I need within my custom CF 404
 page.
 
 So, I'm still wondering about cfincludes within my Missing Template
 Handler page.
 
 Possible, or no? Is there anything special I need to do with the
 cfinclude to make it work?
 
 Thanks,
 Jamie
 
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:55:47 -0500, in cf-talk you wrote:
 
 I'm trying to set up a custom 404 template that can (individually)
 handle multiple sites' (CF) 404 errors (they are hosted on the same
 server).
 
 I'm having trouble with cfincludes and cffiles within the custom
 CF 404 template: I can't get them to work.
 
 Are these disabled to prevent endless 404 error loops? If not, what
 might I be doing wrong?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 
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Re: QUESTION: XML feed

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I would try to work with them to clean up the XML file at the source -
that's the key to the wonderful world of XML: syntactically valid XML.

- Original Message -
From: Emily C. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 1:54 PM
Subject: QUESTION: XML feed


 I am pulling a file from a company that has set up an xml feed. Needless
to
 say, sometimes the file is full of errors -- things like p and no end 
 cause my system to break. At first I was using ReReplace and Replace to
read
 the file and replace the non wddx code but now it seems as if I have to
plan
 for every potential mistake they could possibly make since I may get junk
like
 above.

 Does anyone have a solution to problems like the one above? Is there any
 magical tool I can use? As long as their XMLfeed is clean, I can run my
 rereplaces and replaces and turn their non-wddx into wddx but I can't plan
for
 these types of situations, at least not how I'm currently doing it..

 
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OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

I was looking at automating my server-side SPAM filtering.  Are there 
any resources for pulling known SPAM addresses?  Free, as in beer?

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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Yeah, I saw the thing on Slashdot too - I'll probably investigate that.

- Original Message -
From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


 Other than black hole lists, I don't know of any. I read of a distributed
 system being worked up on slashdot a few days back. I was going to suggest
 the same thing for iMS users to catalog email addresses, subjects, etc. of
 spam to be blocked.

 At 03:15 PM 12/4/01, you wrote:
 I was looking at automating my server-side SPAM filtering.  Are there
 any resources for pulling known SPAM addresses?  Free, as in beer?
 
 
 
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Re: Credit Card Encryption

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Are you sure about the cfencrypt() function?  I don't think it's
crackable, though any encryption is if you throw enough keys at it.
Rather, the encryption for encrypting files (like encrypted custom tags) has
been cracked for a long time (since it requires no user selectable key).

- Original Message -
From: Jeffrey Polaski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: Credit Card Encryption


 You can also remove the CC numbers from the database. We don't process a
 huge amount of CC's, so we just run some SQL to  set all but the last four
 digits to 'x' after having copied the good cc numbers to a floppy. The
 floppies go to a locked managers  office. That way the numbers aren't even
 on the network. We don't do it every day, but once a week or so--enough
that
 there aren't very many CC number sitting in the db.

 One suggestion: write a stored procedure that writes the CC numbers out to
 disk, then run GnuPG on the file, and then set all but the last four CC
 digits to 'x'. You could do it with a chron job, or use a scheduled task
in
 CF. I think that would work for you.

 One note: cfencrypt(), AFAIK, has been cracked. I'm not sure if that's
true
 of recent versions of CF, though.


Jeff Polaski
Webmaster
Research  Graduate Studies
University California, Irvine


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Credit Card Encryption


 Does anyone have any insight on encrypting data into a Table?  A client is
 asking about storing CC numbers and I want to see what level of protection
 we can provide.

 TIA!

 Hatton

 
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Re: Credit Card Encryption

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

You're right, everything is crackable.  I just wouldn't think that you can
throw cfencrypt'ed text into some magic cracker program and get the
decrypted results (keep in mind, this is different from brute forcing keys).
Unless the CF developers were idiots and placed the key automatically in the
encrypted text.   Of course, most decrypters for cfencrypt() probably
wouldn't take very long to decrypt using brute force techniques, because
most developers I know use very short keys, like abc123 - your encryption
key should be very long, and random).

What do you mean by finding the key was trivial?  The key for that
function is user selected.  You could brute force them, but I do not believe
there's a simple way to automatically determine the encryption key used
(as opposed to template encryption, which in essence uses a public key)

Are you sure you're referring to cfencrypt() the function, and not referring
to template decryption?


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Credit Card Encryption


 Why isn't it crackable?  Everything's crackable.  Anyhoo, it has been
 cracked.  Finding the key for that function was horribly trivial.  Go
 to Google and do a search, you'll find some code that'll unencrypt
 cfencrypt()'ed material.

 - Original Message -
 From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, December 4, 2001 1:37 pm
 Subject: Re: Credit Card Encryption

  Are you sure about the cfencrypt() function?  I don't think it's
  crackable, though any encryption is if you throw enough keys at it.
  Rather, the encryption for encrypting files (like encrypted custom
  tags) has
  been cracked for a long time (since it requires no user selectable
  key).
  - Original Message -
  From: Jeffrey Polaski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:29 PM
  Subject: RE: Credit Card Encryption
 
 
   You can also remove the CC numbers from the database. We don't
  process a
   huge amount of CC's, so we just run some SQL to  set all but the
  last four
   digits to 'x' after having copied the good cc numbers to a
  floppy. The
   floppies go to a locked managers  office. That way the numbers
  aren't even
   on the network. We don't do it every day, but once a week or so--
  enoughthat
   there aren't very many CC number sitting in the db.
  
   One suggestion: write a stored procedure that writes the CC
  numbers out to
   disk, then run GnuPG on the file, and then set all but the last
  four CC
   digits to 'x'. You could do it with a chron job, or use a
  scheduled task
  in
   CF. I think that would work for you.
  
   One note: cfencrypt(), AFAIK, has been cracked. I'm not sure if
  that'strue
   of recent versions of CF, though.
  
  
  Jeff Polaski
  Webmaster
  Research  Graduate Studies
  University California, Irvine
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:43 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Credit Card Encryption
  
  
   Does anyone have any insight on encrypting data into a Table?  A
  client is
   asking about storing CC numbers and I want to see what level of
  protection we can provide.
  
   TIA!
  
   Hatton
  
  
 
 
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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Personally, I'd like to avoid the blackhole lists.  Reason being, it's very
easy to get unfairly placed on their list - perfect example was the
VerizonMail.com? domain.  I'd like to avoid as much spam as possible, but
still take as much care to ensure that real users (ie, non-scumbags) can
reach me.  The moment that I have to tell a friend, business associate, or
potential customer that their email couldn't reach me because my spam filter
caught them, is the moment that I've gone too far.

One liner to prevent 100% of spam:
*@*.*

- Original Message -
From: Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


 I was looking at automating my server-side SPAM filtering.  Are there
 any resources for pulling known SPAM addresses?  Free, as in beer?

 We run an SMTP anti-abuse gateway, and subcribe it to selected RBL
servers,
 do DNS validations, enforce SMTP protocol compliance, regex filters on
 headers, bodies, attachments.  This kills 90% of spam, and a bunch of
 worms, virii, too without costing anything.

 A couple of new ones that look promising are spamassassin.taint.org and
 tmda.sourceforge.net.

 Another one combines the MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a lookup of the
 owner of the sending mailserver's ip.  If you say [EMAIL PROTECTED] and your
 mailserver is not an AOL ip, click.

 Len


 
 
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Re: Credit Card Encryption

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

Well, even encryption for protecting government secrets can be cracked if
the encryption uses a single key - you just try all the possibilities until
you get it right.  What makes an encryption mechanism secure is the length
of the key, restriction of access to that key, and the hash algorithm.  I
don't think there's a way of decrypting cfencrypt() without the key - but as
I pointed out, it'd probably take a ridiculously short amount of time to
crack with a short key.  Then again, the whole point is moot, if someone can
access the original source code, since the encryption key would be in plain
text there.


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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Credit Card Encryption


 Of course, most decrypters for cfencrypt()
  probablywouldn't take very long to decrypt using brute force
  techniques, because
  most developers I know use very short keys, like abc123 - your
  encryptionkey should be very long, and random).

 It depends on many factors, but suffice it to say that the encryption
 mechanism is very, very weak.

 Mind you, those functions aren't really meant to protect government
 secrets.  They're just a bit of obfuscation, essentially.


 
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Re: OT: SPAM lists?

2001-12-04 Thread BILLY CRAVENS

My opinion would be that if you are running a mail server, it is your
responsibility to be aware of and control how it relays.  (IMO, falls into
the same bucket as setting up IIS and being aware of things like Code Red)
However, I will agree that some of the blackhole lists are a bit flawed in
their implementation.

- Original Message -
From: Troy Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


 Bryan,
 I know your feeling they did it to me while I was first setting up my
 server for my domain and a friends. and it was a bear to get it off there
 cause it was new software that I never used but after getting it set-up it
 was a good software package. The mail server is from icewarp called Merak
it
 cost money but has some nice features with it.
 if you want to check them out its
 www.icewarp.com

 but I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

 Troy Montour
 Vampires Inc

 - Original Message -
 From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:48 PM
 Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists?


  Hey All,
 
  cf_rant
  I just had an mazingly frustrating experiences with one of the blackhole
  database maintainers (ordb.org).  These folks think they are doing
favours
  by helping ISP's to block mail server IPs that are running open relays
  (allow spammers to send using that mail server), but their
implementation
  SUCKS!
 
  The Scenario:
 
  I'm running  a development box with IMS as a mail server (and hosting a
  client's domain during development).  After about 8 months with no mail
  issues whatsoever I receive a bunch of spam test messages from ORDB.org
 and
  then get a message saying that my mai lever was an open relay and had
been
  added to their database.  This database is provided to ISPs so they can
  block ALL mail coming from the IP addresses in it.
 
  SOOOOO ORDB thinks it's best to just add my IP with NO warning
and
  no chance to fix the issue before getting blacklisted.  Well that bit of
  strong arming shut down my mail server and my client couldn't send any
 mail
  (BTW my logs show that no spam EVER went through the system).  You then
 have
  to try and fix the problem (not easy in IMS) and submit your IP for
  re-testing (which they say takes 5-10 hours...reality was 12 plus hrs).
 If
  you haven't closed the relay then you have to try again (which I had to
 do).
 
  My client was without e-mail for over 2 days.  I had to get rid of IMS
and
  found a GREAT free mail servr that allows SMTP authentication (Argo
  Soft...get it).
 
  My communications with ORDB were less than fruitful.  They didn't care
 that
  my mail service was interrupted and said they don't give you a warning
  because then more spam would get through (which there was none). So
these
  guys would rather innocent people lose their mail service instead of
  allowing a few more spams through...geesh.  To top it off they hide
behind
  the well it;s the ISPs that block you..we just provide them with the
  database of IPs.  Which transaltes to He didn't have to use the gun I
  handed him!!
 
  Well their predecesor ORBS had 2 legal injunctions against them and had
to
  shut down.  I'm sure if they continue to stop valid mail service that
  someone with the time and money will go after them too...awww what a
  shame *insert eveil grin here*
  /cf_rant
 
  Thanks for listening...and get ArgoSoft's mail serversuper easy to
use
  and install
 
  Bryan Stevenson
  VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  p. 250.920.8830
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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