RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[UXB Internet]

>  Please don't do it off-list, several of us could be interested.

In case anyone is interested, as Claude recommended, It was relatively easy
to check for the foreign script injection by myturfads.com.   There is a
test page with the code located at http://www.uxb.net/adtest/ that will look
to see if your client is seeing the Google ad being replaced by the
myturfads.com 

In case you are wondering what I am talking about.   Some ISP's are using a
proxy technology that in real time intercepts the Google Ad JavaScript code
and replaces it with their own advertising from a company (MyTurf -
www.myturfads.com) that specializes in injecting local advertising into
existing ad spaces for Local ISP's.They replace the google or double
click JS code with their own and can add/inject  pop-up and video ads into
sites that only use text or image advertising from Google. Very Annoying!

Based on the testing I have done with one of my more trafficked sites that
have ads on them (hce.halomaps.org) there are at least two ISP's that are
using the ad-replacement proxy technology in three different regions:
Brewster NY, Denver CO.  and  Boise ID.  NY and CO were Comcast and  ID was
CenturyLink.  I am seeing multiple IPS from each area, mostly in the same B
and C blocks.

The way the test page works is that after loading it looks for any script
called from "myturfads.com" on the page and then lists the scripts and warns
if one was found.  If one was found it performs an AJAX call and sends me an
email with the client IP. 

I have contacted and opened a case with Google about this and they were very
interested, but of course I only get to deal with the front line support
person so I have no idea what they intend.  I also contacted a copyright law
firm and they were interested but because it is Google's Code and not mine
that is being replaced an infringement case would be tough.  Not only that
but apparently there is no case law that says the ISP cannot replace or
inject scripts. To proceed further it would require I cover legal research
costs to see  if there was a case to be had.It gets all muddy,
especially now with the FCC's new Net Neutrality regulations still not fully
defined and already under legal attack.

I find this behavior on the part of the ISP's abhorrent and dangerous.
Right now they are replacing advertising and stealing revenue from the
advertiser and Web Publisher. But they could just as easily replace articles
or any real content on the fly as well.  And the worst of it is that there
is apparently no legal precedent to the contrary. 

Thanks for listening.


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RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[UXB Internet]

>  Just throwing ideas out there. :)

All my pontificating aside for this particular purpose I am just trying to
detect if the string "adx.myturfads.com" exists anywhere on the DOM.  

For my sister, I've already stopped it from loading by editing the hosts
file on the PC to disallow that domain.  

Including the reasons you stated trying to stop it with a purely technical
solution is just an arms race. This requires legal action.  I am trying to
find a way to collect data to support that.

They may have stepped over a line here because they are not just adding but
removing and replacing content.



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RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[DURETTE, STEVEN J]

Using HTTPS may not be able to solve the problem completely either.  A lot of 
companies, and now apparently ISPs, do a man in the middle certificate and have 
access to the whole encrypted stream.  Companies do it to ensure that their 
work product isn't being ex-filtrated, ISPs seem to do it for advertising.  
There are ways to verify your direct connection to a server, but it requires 
diligence on the part of the browser user.

I was thinking at first that you could generate a hash of the page being send 
and append it in http headers and then use javascript to hash the DOM and 
compare it, but I don't think that would work because of add-ins like LastPass 
that inject javascript that the user wants.

Just throwing ideas out there. :)


-Original Message-
From: UXB Internet [mailto:denn...@uxbinternet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts


>>  I agree with you that Comcast should die in a fire,

So I'm not crazy then.  I have to wonder some times.

>>  I like Jochem's solution, of which I was unaware, but still 
>> recommend you use  HTTPS.

Actually I can also prevent it by switching to a different/newer ad type
with a different script but that wasn't the goal for this request.  The goal
was to collect data on where (the IP) the script was being injected.
Stopping it with a technical solution is an arms race.


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>  -Original Message-
>  From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
>  Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:08 AM
>  To: cf-talk
>  Subject: Re: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts
>  
>  
>  > >  Second, if you use TLS (SSL) exclusively, you should be able to
>  > > prevent this.
>  >
>  > I tested for this and yes it does prevent it.  However that is not
>  > actually the point.  The point is much bigger than the pennies they
>  > sole from my websites ad revenue.  Maybe I am the only one but to me
>  > this practice, replacing the content of a webpage with their own
>  > content, is a heinous affront to the idea of an open Internet.
>  >
>  > Maybe I am going off the rails here but isn't this exactly what the
>  > Net Neutrality fight was all about? Not fast lanes and slow lanes but
>  > data integrity!
>  >
>  > Thanks for the pointer on the JS code I will look into it and take a
>  > step down off my soapbox.
>  
>  I agree with you that Comcast should die in a fire, but it'll take a
while for the
>  FCC to fix that problem I'm sure. In the meantime, rent-seekers gonna
rent-
>  seek, I guess.
>  
>  I like Jochem's solution, of which I was unaware, but still recommend you
use
>  HTTPS.
>  
>  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>  1-202-527-9569
>  http://www.figleaf.com/
>  http://training.figleaf.com/
>  
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RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[UXB Internet]

>>  I agree with you that Comcast should die in a fire,

So I'm not crazy then.  I have to wonder some times.

>>  I like Jochem's solution, of which I was unaware, but still 
>> recommend you use  HTTPS.

Actually I can also prevent it by switching to a different/newer ad type
with a different script but that wasn't the goal for this request.  The goal
was to collect data on where (the IP) the script was being injected.
Stopping it with a technical solution is an arms race.


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>  -Original Message-
>  From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
>  Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:08 AM
>  To: cf-talk
>  Subject: Re: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts
>  
>  
>  > >  Second, if you use TLS (SSL) exclusively, you should be able to
>  > > prevent this.
>  >
>  > I tested for this and yes it does prevent it.  However that is not
>  > actually the point.  The point is much bigger than the pennies they
>  > sole from my websites ad revenue.  Maybe I am the only one but to me
>  > this practice, replacing the content of a webpage with their own
>  > content, is a heinous affront to the idea of an open Internet.
>  >
>  > Maybe I am going off the rails here but isn't this exactly what the
>  > Net Neutrality fight was all about? Not fast lanes and slow lanes but
>  > data integrity!
>  >
>  > Thanks for the pointer on the JS code I will look into it and take a
>  > step down off my soapbox.
>  
>  I agree with you that Comcast should die in a fire, but it'll take a
while for the
>  FCC to fix that problem I'm sure. In the meantime, rent-seekers gonna
rent-
>  seek, I guess.
>  
>  I like Jochem's solution, of which I was unaware, but still recommend you
use
>  HTTPS.
>  
>  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>  1-202-527-9569
>  http://www.figleaf.com/
>  http://training.figleaf.com/
>  
>  Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
>  (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
>  authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>  
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Re: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[Dave Watts]

> >  Second, if you use TLS (SSL) exclusively, you should be able to prevent
> > this.
>
> I tested for this and yes it does prevent it.  However that is not actually
> the point.  The point is much bigger than the pennies they sole from my
> websites ad revenue.  Maybe I am the only one but to me this practice,
> replacing the content of a webpage with their own content, is a heinous
> affront to the idea of an open Internet.
>
> Maybe I am going off the rails here but isn't this exactly what the Net
> Neutrality fight was all about? Not fast lanes and slow lanes but data
> integrity!
>
> Thanks for the pointer on the JS code I will look into it and take a step
> down off my soapbox.

I agree with you that Comcast should die in a fire, but it'll take a
while for the FCC to fix that problem I'm sure. In the meantime,
rent-seekers gonna rent-seek, I guess.

I like Jochem's solution, of which I was unaware, but still recommend
you use HTTPS.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[Jochem van Dieten]

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM, UXB Internet 
wrote:

> I apologize for this off topic post.  A while back someone posted a thread
> where they were working on a script that would enumerate the DOM and detect
> foreign JS scripts running or loaded.  I am looking to consult with that
> person off-list because I have a case where I need to do the same.


Nowadays most browsers support having a Content Security Policy which IMHO
offers a much better mechanism to do so in its reporting functionality:
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/

Jochem

-- 
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RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[UXB Internet]

Thanks Dave I do appreciate the information.

>  First, my understanding is that this only happens for users of Comcast
public
>  access hotspots, not for subscribed users:
>  
>  http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/why-comcasts-javascript-ad-
>  injections-threaten-security-net-neutrality/

In my research I did see that article but alas they are indeed rolling it
out to actual subscribers.

>  Second, if you use TLS (SSL) exclusively, you should be able to prevent
this.

I tested for this and yes it does prevent it.  However that is not actually
the point.  The point is much bigger than the pennies they sole from my
websites ad revenue.  Maybe I am the only one but to me this practice,
replacing the content of a webpage with their own content, is a heinous
affront to the idea of an open Internet.

Maybe I am going off the rails here but isn't this exactly what the Net
Neutrality fight was all about? Not fast lanes and slow lanes but data
integrity!

Thanks for the pointer on the JS code I will look into it and take a step
down off my soapbox.


Dennis Powers
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Re: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[Dave Watts]

> It appears as if in some locations Comcast's proxies are intercepting
> advertising scripts (google/doubleclick) and replacing them with their own
> JS that substitutes their own contracted ads.   I am looking for a way to
> detect this on a test page to determine how wide spread the practice is.
>
> I would be greatly appreciative if that person would contact me directly
> either by email or phone.

I'm not that person, but I have some suggestions.

First, my understanding is that this only happens for users of Comcast
public access hotspots, not for subscribed users:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/why-comcasts-javascript-ad-injections-threaten-security-net-neutrality/

Second, if you use TLS (SSL) exclusively, you should be able to
prevent this. Google/Doubleclick support this, and I really think it's
the way of the future. We recommend exclusive TLS use for all of our
customers. Not specifically just for this problem, but because it
limits exposure generally and because it may positively affect SEO in
the near future:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2014/08/https-as-ranking-signal.html

Third, there's an IEEE paper that provides some sample code for
handling this problem. I haven't read it myself, and it's not a free
paper, but it may be worth the money to you:

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6032221&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6032221

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RE: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[UXB Internet]

>  I developped a client side javascript error trackink tool and it helped
me a lot
>  to debug my scripts, but I get many errors happening in foreign JS
scripts.
>  I fixed my program to detect 5 or 6 of them and now the system is almost
>  perfect.

Should have known it was you .  What is happening is that Comcast has
engaged the company MyTurfads.com that on the fly replaces Google and other
ads with their own.   They intercept the call to the script and return JS of
their own that inserts a script from their domain (adx.myturfads.com)  into
the DOM.  That script then calls others to handle the ads.

I have proven this using a test page http://www.uxb.net/adtest/ that only
has a single Google ad and no other scripts.  The content of the single
script on that page gets  replaced at my sisters in NY (Comcast)  but not in
CT (Comcast) .  

I want to find out how wide spread this is because 3 data points do not make
an argument. I only found out about it because my sister complained about
getting pop-up and self-running modal video ads on one of my websites and
that should not occur.

What I want to do is write a script that can detect if the domain
myturfads.com is located anywhere in the DOM.  I intend to place it on the
simple test page so that once detected I can initiate an Ajax call and
record the user IP on my server.   I can hack at JS code with enough
examples but sadly need a little help on this one.



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Re: (ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>I am looking to consult with that person off-list

Please don't do it off-list, several of us could be interrested.
I developped a client side javascript error trackink tool and it helped me a 
lot to debug my scripts, but I get many errors happening in foreign JS scripts.
I fixed my program to detect 5 or 6 of them and now the system is almost 
perfect.


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(ot) JavaScript detecting foreign scripts

[UXB Internet]

I apologize for this off topic post.  A while back someone posted a thread
where they were working on a script that would enumerate the DOM and detect
foreign JS scripts running or loaded.  I am looking to consult with that
person off-list because I have a case where I need to do the same.

It appears as if in some locations Comcast's proxies are intercepting
advertising scripts (google/doubleclick) and replacing them with their own
JS that substitutes their own contracted ads.   I am looking for a way to
detect this on a test page to determine how wide spread the practice is.

I would be greatly appreciative if that person would contact me directly
either by email or phone.


Dennis Powers
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RE: Programming for an iPod - OT javascript/HTML question

[Stephens, Larry V]

Thanks to those who responded.

Normally I would have posted a link but this is behind ADS authentication here 
and I had to do some code modification to move it from there.

But, it was an annoyingly simple problem: in one line of j-code I used an ID 
referrer ToiletFacOnSite when it should have been ToiletFacOnsite. I found it 
after tracking down how to turn on the debugger in Safari.

What threw me off was it threw no errors in IE and I usually find IE way more 
sensitive than Mozilla. I even turned on the IE debugger and it threw no 
errors. The offending line of code was 

if ( document.getElementById('ToiletFacOnSite').checked ) {   (that's before I 
corrected it) which causes me to wonder if Mozilla and IE have some kind of 
optimization built in so they only look at enough of the id to find it is 
unique (e.g., maybe ToiletFacO) and ignore the rest. Otherwise, why wasn't IE 
complaining about the code?  (Rhetorical question)


 

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From: Stephens, Larry V [mailto:steph...@indiana.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Programming for an iPod - OT javascript/HTML question


I'm working on a form in CF that displays just fine on a desktop/laptop but the 
javascript breaks in Safari once I introduce a .

If anyone has a clue about this, please contact me off-list at 
steph...@indiana.edu

Thanks.

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Re: Programming for an iPod - OT javascript/HTML question

[Judah McAuley]

Without any examples, it is tough to help out.

Couple things I'll toss out as starting points:

1. Validate your HTML and your JS. It won't cure every problem but it
is an easy step and gets rid of a lot of easy to miss sources of
error.
2. If you are really looking at a mobile device (as opposed to the
desktop version of Safari), look into one of the mobile-optimized JS
libraries like JQuery Mobile or Sencha Mobile. There are also mobile
device emulators that may help you debug.

Cheers,
Judah

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Stephens, Larry V  wrote:
>
> I'm working on a form in CF that displays just fine on a desktop/laptop but 
> the javascript breaks in Safari once I introduce a .
>
> If anyone has a clue about this, please contact me off-list at 
> steph...@indiana.edu
>
> Thanks.
>
> 

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Re: Programming for an iPod - OT javascript/HTML question

[Michael Grant]

Can you post a link?


On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Stephens, Larry V wrote:

>
> I'm working on a form in CF that displays just fine on a desktop/laptop but
> the javascript breaks in Safari once I introduce a .
>
> If anyone has a clue about this, please contact me off-list at
> steph...@indiana.edu
>
> Thanks.
>
> 

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Re: Programming for an iPod - OT javascript/HTML question

[Lists]

So you have an example you can see online? Is it only mobile safari that breaks 
or does desktop safari as well?

On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:25 PM, "Stephens, Larry V"  wrote:

> 
> I'm working on a form in CF that displays just fine on a desktop/laptop but 
> the javascript breaks in Safari once I introduce a .
> 
> If anyone has a clue about this, please contact me off-list at 
> steph...@indiana.edu
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 

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Programming for an iPod - OT javascript/HTML question

[Stephens, Larry V]

I'm working on a form in CF that displays just fine on a desktop/laptop but the 
javascript breaks in Safari once I introduce a .

If anyone has a clue about this, please contact me off-list at 
steph...@indiana.edu

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RE: OT javascript

[Adrian Lynch]

That's ok. Having duplicate names is cool.

Adrian

> -Original Message-
> From: Chad Gray [mailto:cg...@careyweb.com]
> Sent: 30 July 2009 16:46
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: OT javascript
> 
> 
> When you submit it makes a comma delimited list of ID's that we loop
> over and use.
> 
> Some pages have one select on them, some pages have 10 selects on them.
> So rather than making them uniquely named and tracking how many of them
> we just loop over the comma delimited list.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:38 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: OT javascript
> >
> >
> > Why would you have two selects with the same name? Radio Buttons?
> Sure.
> > But not selects...


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Re: OT javascript

[Andy Matthews]

Chad...

Here's what I'd suggest...leave the name value as is, even though that's not 
the best idea. Add an ID attribute to each, with an increasing numeric value:

cb1, cb2, cb3, etc.

Give each combobox the same class, comboBox or something like that.

Then, you could try something like this:

var $boxes = $('.comboBox') // gives you as many comboboxes as exist on the 
page 
$boxes.each(function(){
$elem = $(this); // the current combo box
if ($elem.val() == '' || $elem.val() == 0) {
// do something here
}
});

> Please Select
> 1
> 
> 
> Please Select
> 1
>  

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RE: OT javascript

[Chad Gray]

When you submit it makes a comma delimited list of ID's that we loop over and 
use.

Some pages have one select on them, some pages have 10 selects on them.  So 
rather than making them uniquely named and tracking how many of them we just 
loop over the comma delimited list.




> -Original Message-
> From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:38 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: OT javascript
> 
> 
> Why would you have two selects with the same name? Radio Buttons? Sure.
> But not selects...
> 
> Steve "Cutter" Blades
> Adobe Certified Professional
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> 
> Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS"
> http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
> _
> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
> 
> 
> On 7/30/2009 10:19 AM, Chad Gray wrote:
> > Say I have two select inputs on one page and they are named the same.
> >
> > Please Select
> > 1
> > 
> >
> > Please Select
> > 1
> > 
> >
> > I want to write javascript to check that both of these are not left
> blank or in their default stage of "Please Select".
> >
> > Can I do this in javascript ID[0] to get the value of the first one?
> >
> > var
> ID=document.orderForm.ID[0]options[document.orderForm.ID[0].selectedIndex]
> .value;
> > var
> ID2=document.orderForm.ID[1]options[document.orderForm.ID[1].selectedIndex
> ].value;
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: OT javascript

[Andy Matthews]

Are you the originator of the code? I mean can you change the source code?
Because having two objects on the page with the same ID is bad mojo. I think
you're going to run into lots of problems, and inconsistencies in different
browsers if you keep them named the same.


andy 

-Original Message-
From: Chad Gray [mailto:cg...@careyweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: OT javascript


Say I have two select inputs on one page and they are named the same.

Please Select
1


Please Select
1


I want to write javascript to check that both of these are not left blank or
in their default stage of "Please Select".

Can I do this in javascript ID[0] to get the value of the first one?

var
ID=document.orderForm.ID[0]options[document.orderForm.ID[0].selectedIndex].v
alue;
var
ID2=document.orderForm.ID[1]options[document.orderForm.ID[1].selectedIndex].
value;




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RE: OT javascript

[Adrian Lynch]

You can in FF3.

You have some typos that'll stop it working though.

A closing double quote for the name attribute in your selects.

You need a . in between the [0] options.

Have a look at using jQuery though. It'll make this code a lot smaller.

Adrian

> -Original Message-
> From: Chad Gray [mailto:cg...@careyweb.com]
> Sent: 30 July 2009 16:20
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: OT javascript
> 
> 
> Say I have two select inputs on one page and they are named the same.
> 
> Please Select
> 1
> 
> 
> Please Select
> 1
> 
> 
> I want to write javascript to check that both of these are not left
> blank or in their default stage of "Please Select".
> 
> Can I do this in javascript ID[0] to get the value of the first one?
> 
> var
> ID=document.orderForm.ID[0]options[document.orderForm.ID[0].selectedInd
> ex].value;
> var
> ID2=document.orderForm.ID[1]options[document.orderForm.ID[1].selectedIn
> dex].value;


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Re: OT javascript

[Cutter (ColdFusion)]

Why would you have two selects with the same name? Radio Buttons? Sure. 
But not selects...

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On 7/30/2009 10:19 AM, Chad Gray wrote:
> Say I have two select inputs on one page and they are named the same.
>
> Please Select
> 1
> 
>
> Please Select
> 1
> 
>
> I want to write javascript to check that both of these are not left blank or 
> in their default stage of "Please Select".
>
> Can I do this in javascript ID[0] to get the value of the first one?
>
> var 
> ID=document.orderForm.ID[0]options[document.orderForm.ID[0].selectedIndex].value;
> var 
> ID2=document.orderForm.ID[1]options[document.orderForm.ID[1].selectedIndex].value;
>
>
> 

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Re: OT javascript

[JediHomer]

You could set different IDs for them, then reference these...

Something like


Please Select
1



Please Select
1


document.getElementById("sel1").options
and
document.getElementById("sel2").options

2009/7/30 Chad Gray :
>
> Say I have two select inputs on one page and they are named the same.
>
> Please Select
> 1
> 
>
> Please Select
> 1
> 
>
> I want to write javascript to check that both of these are not left blank or 
> in their default stage of "Please Select".
>
> Can I do this in javascript ID[0] to get the value of the first one?
>
> var 
> ID=document.orderForm.ID[0]options[document.orderForm.ID[0].selectedIndex].value;
> var 
> ID2=document.orderForm.ID[1]options[document.orderForm.ID[1].selectedIndex].value;
>
>
> 

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OT javascript

[Chad Gray]

Say I have two select inputs on one page and they are named the same.

Please Select
1


Please Select
1


I want to write javascript to check that both of these are not left blank or in 
their default stage of "Please Select".

Can I do this in javascript ID[0] to get the value of the first one?

var 
ID=document.orderForm.ID[0]options[document.orderForm.ID[0].selectedIndex].value;
var 
ID2=document.orderForm.ID[1]options[document.orderForm.ID[1].selectedIndex].value;


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Re: (ot) Javascript Help

[Dave Watts]

> Someone told me that IE cannot talk to an embed tag, only an object tag, but 
> I believe
> the ID vs NAME issue is tripping me up.

I don't think IE uses the EMBED tag at all. Give your OBJECT an ID of
its own, and use that when you're in IE.

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Re: (ot) Javascript Help

[James Holmes]

There's probably something in jquery that'll do it on one line of
cross browser code...

mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

2009/7/9 Michael Muller :
>
> Ok, I need some Javascript help.
>
> I just cannot get this script (residing in an iframe)...
>
>
> 
> parent.thisMovie('studio_loader_embed').reloadClipart();
> parent.thisMovie('studio_loader_embed').showTab(2);
> 
>
>
> ...to go through this script...
>
> 
> function thisMovie(movieName) {
> if (navigator.appName.indexOf("Microsoft") != -1) {
> return HTMLCollection.namedItem(movieName)
> } else {
> return document[movieName]
> }
> }
> 
>
>
> ...to function on this object...
>
>
> 
>
>  codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0";
> width="670" height="550">
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>  quality="high" bgcolor="white" width="670" height="550"
> id="studio_loader_embed"
> align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain"
> allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"; />
>
> 
>
> 
>
> -
>
> For the thisMovie() function I have tried all these combinations for IE:
>
> HTMLCollection.namedItem(movieName)  // HTMLCollection is undefined
> namedItem(movieName)  // Object expected
> document.getElementById //  'parent.thisMovie(...)' is null or not an object
>
>
>
> You can see this functionality work in FF by going here...
>
> http://www.silverscreendesign.com/designlab.cfm?proid=1264
>
> ... and clicking on the "Your Cart" button in the right.  Clicking that 
> button should make the flash movie's tab go to "Add Art"
>
> It does not work in IE.
>
> Someone told me that IE cannot talk to an embed tag, only an object tag, but 
> I believe the ID vs NAME issue is tripping me up.
>
> I would be more than happy to send a PayPal payment for your time.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mik
>
>
>
> 
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(ot) Javascript Help

[Michael Muller]

Ok, I need some Javascript help. 

I just cannot get this script (residing in an iframe)...



parent.thisMovie('studio_loader_embed').reloadClipart();
parent.thisMovie('studio_loader_embed').showTab(2);



...to go through this script...


function thisMovie(movieName) {
if (navigator.appName.indexOf("Microsoft") != -1) {
return HTMLCollection.namedItem(movieName)
} else {
return document[movieName]
}
}



...to function on this object...




http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0";
 
width="670" height="550">





  

http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"; />





-

For the thisMovie() function I have tried all these combinations for IE:

HTMLCollection.namedItem(movieName)  // HTMLCollection is undefined
namedItem(movieName)  // Object expected
document.getElementById //  'parent.thisMovie(...)' is null or not an object



You can see this functionality work in FF by going here...

http://www.silverscreendesign.com/designlab.cfm?proid=1264

... and clicking on the "Your Cart" button in the right.  Clicking that button 
should make the flash movie's tab go to "Add Art"

It does not work in IE.

Someone told me that IE cannot talk to an embed tag, only an object tag, but I 
believe the ID vs NAME issue is tripping me up.

I would be more than happy to send a PayPal payment for your time.

Thanks,

Mik




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RE: OT JavaScript question.

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:15 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: OT JavaScript question.
> 
> Adrian Lynch wrote:
> > Or do you mean with?
> >
> > with someObject {
> > var1 = "not";
> > var2 = "sure";
> > var3 = "about";
> > var4 = "this";
> > var5 = "syntax";
> > var6 = "or";
> > var7 = "whether";
> > var8 = "it's a JavaScript";
> > var9 = "thing or not";
> > }
> >
> > alert(someObject.var1);
> 
> Yes that is the one I was looking for!.  I found 'with' to be a very
> poor search term on Google, or any search engine for that matter.

The actual, factual name of this is "Object Literal Notation" - Google
should be more cooperative with that.  ;^)

Jim Davis


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Re: OT JavaScript question.

[Charlie Griefer]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Yes that is the one I was looking for!.  I found 'with' to be a very
> poor search term on Google, or any search engine for that matter.
>

heh.  reminds me of http://bash.org/?514353 :)

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Re: OT JavaScript question.

[Ian Skinner]

Adrian Lynch wrote:
> Or do you mean with?
>
> with someObject {
>   var1 = "not";
>   var2 = "sure";
>   var3 = "about";
>   var4 = "this";
>   var5 = "syntax";
>   var6 = "or";
>   var7 = "whether";
>   var8 = "it's a JavaScript";
>   var9 = "thing or not";
> }
>
> alert(someObject.var1);

Yes that is the one I was looking for!.  I found 'with' to be a very 
poor search term on Google, or any search engine for that matter.


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RE: OT JavaScript question.

[Adrian Lynch]

Or do you mean with?

with someObject {
var1 = "not";
var2 = "sure";
var3 = "about";
var4 = "this";
var5 = "syntax";
var6 = "or";
var7 = "whether";
var8 = "it's a JavaScript";
var9 = "thing or not";
}

alert(someObject.var1);

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-----Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner
Sent: 12 November 2008 19:34
To: cf-talk
Subject: OT JavaScript question.


Quick question that I just can not think of the right terms to find in 
Google.

There is a syntax short cut in JavaScript if you are assigning several 
properties to the same object.  What is it?

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RE: OT JavaScript question.

[Andy Matthews]

You can do this:

Var something = somethingelse = onemorething = 0;

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:34 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: OT JavaScript question.

Quick question that I just can not think of the right terms to find in 
Google.

There is a syntax short cut in JavaScript if you are assigning several 
properties to the same object.  What is it?





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Re: OT JavaScript question.

[Cutter (CFRelated)]

var myObj = {
  variableA: 'some value',
  variableB: 12,
  variableC: function(){
   // a function
  }
};

I think, you'll want to test.

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Ian Skinner wrote:
> Quick question that I just can not think of the right terms to find in 
> Google.
> 
> There is a syntax short cut in JavaScript if you are assigning several 
> properties to the same object.  What is it?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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OT JavaScript question.

[Ian Skinner]

Quick question that I just can not think of the right terms to find in 
Google.

There is a syntax short cut in JavaScript if you are assigning several 
properties to the same object.  What is it?



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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Sonny Savage]

I use this:
http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE

You can install 3.0 through 6.0 as stand-alone.  I then have IE 7 as my
system install.

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>  >>You might want to take a look at IE7 stand alone.
>
> I will sure do.
> Thanks.
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

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 >>You might want to take a look at IE7 stand alone.

I will sure do.
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Gerald Guido]

You might want to take a look at IE7 stand alone. It allows you to run IE 6
and 7 on the same machine.

http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone

I need to support both IE 6 and 7. This allows you to run both side by side.
Very handy.

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>  >>Companion.JS that works with it was helpful in my case - not perfect
> but helpful. (Better than nothing, certianly.)
>
> I tried it, but unfortunately it requires the MS debugger, and for some
> reason,
> I've never been able to get this piece od &?%$! to work under IE6.
> All I get is a new window with nothing in it.
>
> I know, IE7 have been around for some time, but about half of visitors
> are still using IE6,
> and I still need to have my apps working under IE6.
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>Companion.JS that works with it was helpful in my case - not perfect 
but helpful. (Better than nothing, certianly.)

I tried it, but unfortunately it requires the MS debugger, and for some 
reason,
I've never been able to get this piece od &?%$! to work under IE6.
All I get is a new window with nothing in it.

I know, IE7 have been around for some time, but about half of visitors 
are still using IE6,
and I still need to have my apps working under IE6.

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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Gerald Guido]

>>I haven't worked with DebugBar itself, yet, but Companion.JS that works
with it was helpful in my case - not perfect but helpful. (Better than
nothing, certianly.)

If you are not already aware of it, the tool of choice for many developers
is Firebug: http://getfirebug.com/

It is absolutely indispensable. Especially when debugging ajax calls to the
server and "debugging" css.

There is a port for debugging CF apps called coldfire
http://coldfire.riaforge.org/

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> I haven't worked with DebugBar itself, yet, but Companion.JS that works
> with it was helpful in my case - not perfect but helpful. (Better than
> nothing, certianly.)
>
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RE: (ot) javascript problem

[Stephens, Larry V]

I haven't worked with DebugBar itself, yet, but Companion.JS that works with it 
was helpful in my case - not perfect but helpful. (Better than nothing, 
certianly.)

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Subject: Re: (ot) javascript problem

 >>You can try this.
http://www.debugbar.com/


Hi, are you using it yourself?
I tried it, there are a lot of interesting options, however two main flaws:
1º the error message is still the same stupidity:
- it does not give the true file name the error occurs,
- it gives the line number, but does not show the content of the line.
2º it shows source code of all files, fine, but with no line numbers :-(

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Re: (ot) javascript problem

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 >>Did you try CompanionJS?  I think it is just what you need.

Ah ha! Now this looks better ;-)
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Gerald Guido]

Did you try CompanionJS?  I think it is just what you need.

http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/CompanionJS/HomePage



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>  >>Actually I have it installed but I rarely use IE except for cross
> browser
> css issues.
>
> I see. In my case, most my Javascript is used in my CMS used by
> administrators,
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>Actually I have it installed but I rarely use IE except for cross browser
css issues.

I see. In my case, most my Javascript is used in my CMS used by 
administrators,
and none of them use FF, so developing for IE is a must.

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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Gerald Guido]

Actually I have it installed but I rarely use IE except for cross browser
css issues. (i.e. after I work out all the gremlins using Firebug). I have
yet to run into a IE only JS bug.

Here try CompanionJS. It is geared more toward JS debugging:
http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/CompanionJS/HomePage

I tried messing up a js include to throw an error and CompanionJS went to
the correct file and line.

>> 2º it shows source code of all files, fine, but with no line numbers :-(

You can turn on line numbers by >> right click in the middle frame >>  "Show
Lines"
Same deal with CompanionJS.
HTH,
~G~

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>  >>You can try this.
> http://www.debugbar.com/
>
>
> Hi, are you using it yourself?
> I tried it, there are a lot of interesting options, however two main flaws:
> 1º the error message is still the same stupidity:
>- it does not give the true file name the error occurs,
>- it gives the line number, but does not show the content of the line.
> 2º it shows source code of all files, fine, but with no line numbers :-(
>
> Any setup or so I'm missing?
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>You can try this.
http://www.debugbar.com/


Hi, are you using it yourself?
I tried it, there are a lot of interesting options, however two main flaws:
1º the error message is still the same stupidity:
- it does not give the true file name the error occurs,
- it gives the line number, but does not show the content of the line.
2º it shows source code of all files, fine, but with no line numbers :-(

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RE: (ot) javascript problem

[Stephens, Larry V]

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Stephens, Larry V wrote:
> I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in 
> Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE 
> but my revision (no


Thanks again for all the suggestions.

I figured it out by taking the working page and inserting the non-working 
script piece by piece. This code allows sub-menus and the doc either didn't say 
or I missed what elements were required with a sub-menu. After the first entry 
in a menu tree some elements become optional in successive elements at the same 
level. Everytime you add a sub-level those optional elements become required 
for the first entry of the sub level:

Menu1(1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Menu2(1, 2, 3)
Menu3(1, 2, 3)
Menu3_1(1, 2, 3, 4 5)

Etc.

Turns out I had a sub-menu where I left out the ,4, 5 in the first entry. For 
whatever reason it still displayed fine in Mozilla and just threw warnings but 
it choked and died in IE. As soon as I fixed that all began working again.

I will add that the tools I mentioned earlier for debugging IE were a great 
help.


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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[denstar]

Maybe:

this.resizeTo(Wdth,Hght)}

to

this.resizeTo(Wdth,Hght);
}

and

 this.style.zIndex=RcrsLvl+Ztop}

to

 this.style.zIndex=RcrsLvl+Ztop;
}

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Stephens, Larry V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Stephens, Larry V wrote:
>> I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in 
>> Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE 
>> but my revision (no
>
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>
> I installed the debug bar that was recommended and, on the same site, saw 
> .Jscript (I think that's the name) and installed it. Both seem very helpful 
> additions to IE.
>
> The latter program promptly highlighted the offending line of code. 
> Unfortunately, I'm still mystified at why it's choking in IE but not Mozilla; 
> seems both will go to the same code section..
>
> I know this won't be helpful by itself, but:
>
> function CntnrSetUp(Wdth,Hght,NoOff){
>var x=RcrsLvl==1?BorderColor:BorderSubColor;
>this.FrstMbr=null;
>this.OrgLeft=this.OrgTop=0;
>if(x)this.bgColor=x;
>if(Nav4){   this.visibility='hide';
>this.resizeTo(Wdth,Hght)}
>else{   if(x)this.style.backgroundColor=x;
>this.style.width=Wdth+P_X;
>this.style.height=Hght+P_X;
>this.style.fontFamily=FontFamily;
>this.style.fontWeight=FontBold?'bold':'normal';
>this.style.fontStyle=FontItalic?'italic':'normal';
>this.style.fontSize=FontSize+'pt';
>this.style.zIndex=RcrsLvl+Ztop}}
>
> The script works fine off one page someone set up as a demo but crashes here 
> on another page. The offending line(s) of code seem to be either, one or both 
> of the ones in red, but I can't see where I've made a mistake in anything 
> above this. When I did some investigation both Wdth and Hght returned 
> integers. P_X is widely used in other parts of the script (= 'px').
>
> But, this is far too involved a script for me to debug. At this point - 
> barring an answer from the author - I'm trying a different script.
>
> Thanks.

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RE: (ot) javascript problem

[Stephens, Larry V]

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Stephens, Larry V wrote:
> I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in 
> Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE 
> but my revision (no


Thanks for all the suggestions.

I installed the debug bar that was recommended and, on the same site, saw 
.Jscript (I think that's the name) and installed it. Both seem very helpful 
additions to IE.

The latter program promptly highlighted the offending line of code. 
Unfortunately, I'm still mystified at why it's choking in IE but not Mozilla; 
seems both will go to the same code section..

I know this won't be helpful by itself, but:

function CntnrSetUp(Wdth,Hght,NoOff){
var x=RcrsLvl==1?BorderColor:BorderSubColor;
this.FrstMbr=null;
this.OrgLeft=this.OrgTop=0;
if(x)this.bgColor=x;
if(Nav4){   this.visibility='hide';
this.resizeTo(Wdth,Hght)}
else{   if(x)this.style.backgroundColor=x;
this.style.width=Wdth+P_X;
this.style.height=Hght+P_X;
this.style.fontFamily=FontFamily;
this.style.fontWeight=FontBold?'bold':'normal';
this.style.fontStyle=FontItalic?'italic':'normal';
this.style.fontSize=FontSize+'pt';
this.style.zIndex=RcrsLvl+Ztop}}

The script works fine off one page someone set up as a demo but crashes here on 
another page. The offending line(s) of code seem to be either, one or both of 
the ones in red, but I can't see where I've made a mistake in anything above 
this. When I did some investigation both Wdth and Hght returned integers. P_X 
is widely used in other parts of the script (= 'px').

But, this is far too involved a script for me to debug. At this point - barring 
an answer from the author - I'm trying a different script.

Thanks.



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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[denstar]

Look for a trailing comma in a javascript array perhaps?  That one
gets me in IE every once in a while.

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> I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in 
> Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE 
> but my revision (no

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RE: (ot) javascript problem

[Andy Matthews]

IE JS errors suck...it's almost impossible to debug. Your best bet then is
to start commenting out lines, or chunks, of code (including JS includes).

At the very least it should help you narrow down your issue. You could also
extract the content from your included files one at a time, and replace the
include call with an actual script block. Then IE might tell you where in
that file the error is.


andy 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (ot) javascript problem

I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in
Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE
but my revision (no revision to code other than adding menu elements) won't
even show up in IE.

I see an error icon but it tells me absolutely nothing useful.
Line 348
Char: 3
Error: Invalid argument
Code: 0

As best I can tell - looking at the page source - line 348 is past the end
of the source code so I infer that the problem is in one of the referenced
javascript sources.

I've tried the IE Developer's Toolbar but don't see anything like the
Mozilla error console.

I do get warnings in the Mozilla error console but they don't track to a
specific line of code.

Any clues on how to trace javascript errors in IE?

A sample page is http://www.cincinnaticc.org/newweb/


Larry V. Stephens
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Loathe]

The best means I have found of working out JS errors in IE is to create 
a project in Visual Web Developer 2008 (free).  Launch the project which 
will open a browser window (IE needs to be set as your default browser) 
then navigate to your page.  When the error occurs choose to debug the 
error, and VS will give you better information, and take you directly to 
the offending bit of JS.

Stephens, Larry V wrote:
> I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in 
> Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE 
> but my revision (no revision to code other than adding menu elements) won't 
> even show up in IE.
> 
> I see an error icon but it tells me absolutely nothing useful.
> Line 348
> Char: 3
> Error: Invalid argument
> Code: 0
> 
> As best I can tell - looking at the page source - line 348 is past the end of 
> the source code so I infer that the problem is in one of the referenced 
> javascript sources.
> 
> I've tried the IE Developer's Toolbar but don't see anything like the Mozilla 
> error console.
> 
> I do get warnings in the Mozilla error console but they don't track to a 
> specific line of code.
> 
> Any clues on how to trace javascript errors in IE?
> 
> A sample page is http://www.cincinnaticc.org/newweb/
> 
> 
> Larry V. Stephens
> Indiana University
> Office of Risk Management
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 812-855-9758
> 
> 
> 

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RE: (ot) javascript problem

[Stephens, Larry V]

Thanks - installing now.

-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (ot) javascript problem

You can try this.
http://www.debugbar.com/



On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Stephens, Larry V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in
> Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE
> but my revision (no revision to code other than adding menu elements) won't
> even show up in IE.
>
> I see an error icon but it tells me absolutely nothing useful.
> Line 348
> Char: 3
> Error: Invalid argument
> Code: 0
>
> As best I can tell - looking at the page source - line 348 is past the end
> of the source code so I infer that the problem is in one of the referenced
> javascript sources.
>
> I've tried the IE Developer's Toolbar but don't see anything like the
> Mozilla error console.
>
> I do get warnings in the Mozilla error console but they don't track to a
> specific line of code.
>
> Any clues on how to trace javascript errors in IE?
>
> A sample page is http://www.cincinnaticc.org/newweb/
>
>
> Larry V. Stephens
> Indiana University
> Office of Risk Management
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 812-855-9758
>
>
>



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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>Any clues on how to trace javascript errors in IE?

Error messages in IE are simply retarded.
The error could be in any file, and it does not even give the file name.
Furthermore, the line number is always one unit higher.
Then your error must be in one of the included files, at line 347.

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RE: (ot) javascript problem

[Adrian Lynch]

If things aren't working after you made a change, show us a before and after
sample of the code.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Stephens, Larry V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 July 2008 13:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (ot) javascript problem


I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in
Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE
but my revision (no revision to code other than adding menu elements) won't
even show up in IE.

I see an error icon but it tells me absolutely nothing useful.
Line 348
Char: 3
Error: Invalid argument
Code: 0

As best I can tell - looking at the page source - line 348 is past the end
of the source code so I infer that the problem is in one of the referenced
javascript sources.

I've tried the IE Developer's Toolbar but don't see anything like the
Mozilla error console.

I do get warnings in the Mozilla error console but they don't track to a
specific line of code.

Any clues on how to trace javascript errors in IE?

A sample page is http://www.cincinnaticc.org/newweb/


Larry V. Stephens
Indiana University
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Re: (ot) javascript problem

[Gerald Guido]

You can try this.
http://www.debugbar.com/



On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Stephens, Larry V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in
> Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE
> but my revision (no revision to code other than adding menu elements) won't
> even show up in IE.
>
> I see an error icon but it tells me absolutely nothing useful.
> Line 348
> Char: 3
> Error: Invalid argument
> Code: 0
>
> As best I can tell - looking at the page source - line 348 is past the end
> of the source code so I infer that the problem is in one of the referenced
> javascript sources.
>
> I've tried the IE Developer's Toolbar but don't see anything like the
> Mozilla error console.
>
> I do get warnings in the Mozilla error console but they don't track to a
> specific line of code.
>
> Any clues on how to trace javascript errors in IE?
>
> A sample page is http://www.cincinnaticc.org/newweb/
>
>
> Larry V. Stephens
> Indiana University
> Office of Risk Management
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 812-855-9758
>
>
> 

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(ot) javascript problem

[Stephens, Larry V]

I'm using a DHTML javascript menu (from DynamicDrive) that works fine in 
Mozilla (shows no errors in the error console). The sample works fine in IE but 
my revision (no revision to code other than adding menu elements) won't even 
show up in IE.

I see an error icon but it tells me absolutely nothing useful.
Line 348
Char: 3
Error: Invalid argument
Code: 0

As best I can tell - looking at the page source - line 348 is past the end of 
the source code so I infer that the problem is in one of the referenced 
javascript sources.

I've tried the IE Developer's Toolbar but don't see anything like the Mozilla 
error console.

I do get warnings in the Mozilla error console but they don't track to a 
specific line of code.

Any clues on how to trace javascript errors in IE?

A sample page is http://www.cincinnaticc.org/newweb/


Larry V. Stephens
Indiana University
Office of Risk Management
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
812-855-9758


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RE: (ot) javascript help

[Chad Gray]

Ah... that makes sense.

Thanks everyone for the help!

> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: (ot) javascript help
> 
> because  isn't an element of ?
> try removing the tabbedTicket or use getElementById
> 
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can any javascript gurus tell me why this does not work?  I want the
>  tag to display on the page so I get a carriage return between the two
> pieces of text "Foo" and "Moo".  I get this error in Firbug:
> > document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe has no properties
> >
> >
> > 
> > function makeNewEntry() {
> > document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.visibility = 'visible';
> > document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.display = '';
> > }
> > 
> >
> >  name="tabbedTicket">
> >
> > 
> > Foo
> > 
> > Moo
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: (ot) javascript help

[Josh Nathanson]

Quite a few issues there...

First off, you can generally use one or the other of "visibility" or 
"display" properties.  In your case you'd probably want to use "display" 
since this will actually create or destroy the space that the br occupies.

Then, in makeNewEntry you'd want this one line:
document.getElementById('FTDTYPEe').style.display = 'block';
// since it is an id, you can reference it directly, independent of the form

Finally, you can remove the visibility property from the br:


That should get you where you need to be.

-- Josh



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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: (ot) javascript help


> Can any javascript gurus tell me why this does not work?  I want the  
> tag to display on the page so I get a carriage return between the two 
> pieces of text "Foo" and "Moo".  I get this error in Firbug:
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe has no properties
>
>
> 
> function makeNewEntry() {
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.visibility = 'visible';
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.display = '';
> }
> 
>
>  name="tabbedTicket">
>
> 
> Foo
> 
> Moo
> 
>
>
> 

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RE: (ot) javascript help

[Andy Matthews]

There's an easier way to do this...

Rather than using a br and assigning an id to it, use a div. Divs have built
in properties that aren't included in br tags. 

-Original Message-
From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (ot) javascript help

Can any javascript gurus tell me why this does not work?  I want the 
tag to display on the page so I get a carriage return between the two pieces
of text "Foo" and "Moo".  I get this error in Firbug:
document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe has no properties



function makeNewEntry() {
document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.visibility = 'visible';
document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.display = ''; } 




Foo
 Moo 




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RE: (ot) javascript help

[Dawson, Michael]

I may be way off-base, but do you need that trailing "e" in "FTDTYPEe"?
Could it be the missing "e" from "Firbug"?

m!ke

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can any javascript gurus tell me why this does not work?  I want the
 tag to display on the page so I get a carriage return between the
two pieces of text "Foo" and "Moo".  I get this error in Firbug:
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe has no properties

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Re: (ot) javascript help

[Greg Morphis]

because  isn't an element of ?
try removing the tabbedTicket or use getElementById

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can any javascript gurus tell me why this does not work?  I want the  tag 
> to display on the page so I get a carriage return between the two pieces of 
> text "Foo" and "Moo".  I get this error in Firbug:
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe has no properties
>
>
> 
> function makeNewEntry() {
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.visibility = 'visible';
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.display = '';
> }
> 
>
>  name="tabbedTicket">
>
> 
> Foo
> 
> Moo
> 
>
>
> 

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Re: (ot) javascript help

[Barney Boisvert]

try document.getElementById("FTDTYPEe").  And then go get some library
that will take care of all that for you (jQuery, Prototype, etc.).

cheers,
barneyb

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can any javascript gurus tell me why this does not work?  I want the  tag 
> to display on the page so I get a carriage return between the two pieces of 
> text "Foo" and "Moo".  I get this error in Firbug:
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe has no properties
>
>
> 
> function makeNewEntry() {
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.visibility = 'visible';
> document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.display = '';
> }
> 
>
>  name="tabbedTicket">
>
> 
> Foo
> 
> Moo
> 
>
>
> 

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(ot) javascript help

[Chad Gray]

Can any javascript gurus tell me why this does not work?  I want the  tag 
to display on the page so I get a carriage return between the two pieces of 
text "Foo" and "Moo".  I get this error in Firbug:
document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe has no properties



function makeNewEntry() {
document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.visibility = 'visible';
document.tabbedTicket.FTDTYPEe.style.display = '';
}





Foo

Moo



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RE: (ot) Javascript Question...

[Che Vilnonis]

Thanks. Because of popup blockers I guess a regular href will have to do. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 4:21 PM
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Subject: RE: (ot) Javascript Question...

window.open()

most popup blockers will block it though.

...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: (ot) Javascript Question...

I have a form that posts to itself. Once submitted, I create a dynamic url
on the fly.
Using javascript, how can I submit the form to itself and open the new url
in another browser window?

Can this be done w/o creating a 'go between' cf template?

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RE: (ot) Javascript Question...

[Bobby Hartsfield]

window.open()

most popup blockers will block it though.

..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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Subject: (ot) Javascript Question...

I have a form that posts to itself. Once submitted, I create a dynamic url
on the fly.
Using javascript, how can I submit the form to itself and open the new url
in another browser window?

Can this be done w/o creating a 'go between' cf template?

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(ot) Javascript Question...

[Che Vilnonis]

I have a form that posts to itself. Once submitted, I create a dynamic url
on the fly.
Using javascript, how can I submit the form to itself and open the new url
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Can this be done w/o creating a 'go between' cf template?

Thanks, Che


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RE: OT Javascript - when is an element visible

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT Javascript - when is an element visible
> 
> In Ext, the Element class has built-in methods to get just about
> anything you need from an element, including position info.
> 
> http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/docs/?class=Ext.Element

For what it's worth my PanelManager will do this as well:

http://www.depressedpress.com/Content/Development/JavaScript/Extensions/DP_P
anelManager/Index.cfm

You do have to make each element into a "panel" - this extends the element
with a ton of methods including getPosition() which returns the element's
position from the top/left of the canvas.

To be easy tho' the method provides a hasCollisionWith() method which can
determine if one element overlaps another.  So (once you've made panels of
the elements) you can just say something like:

if ( MyElement.hasCollisionWith("MyContainer") ) {
In View!
} else {
Not in View!
};

This would return true if any part of "MyElement" is overlapping
"MyContainer" - to figure out how much they overlap you might use the
getDistanceFrom() method - this returns zero if the elements are touching
(but not overlapping), positive numbers if they're apart and negative
numbers if they're overlapping.

The panelManager itself provides general methods to get canvas and window
size and mouse position allowing you to easily determine if the parent
container is visible.

Lastly the component supports a fully cross-platform event manager/model so
you can easily react to collisions.

It's small, doesn't pollute host code and I've found it insanely useful.

Jim Davis 


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Re: OT Javascript - when is an element visible

[s. isaac dealey]

I'm not sure if scrollTop is part of the spec for DOM (or widely
supported -- innerHTML for example is not but widely supported).
Assuming that scrollTop is supported in the browser though, I'd think
something like this might work: 

var ct = container.scrollTop; 
var ch = container.offsetHeight; 

var t = mydiv.offsetTop; 
var h = mydiv.offsetHeight; 

if (t > ct && t < (ct + ch)) {
  // top of the div is visible 
} else if ((t+h) > ct && (t+h) < (ct + ch)) {
  // bottom of the div is visible 
}

hth,
ike


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Re: OT Javascript - when is an element visible

[Rey Bango]

In Ext, the Element class has built-in methods to get just about 
anything you need from an element, including position info.

http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/docs/?class=Ext.Element

jQuery, out of the box, can provide offset, width and height only and 
enhanced capabilities via the dimensions plugin.

Rey...


Massimo Foti wrote:
>> Doesn't sound fun though-- maybe someone will post and show us a
>> pre-built function in the prototype library or something.  :)
> 
> Many libraries include a method to get the coordinates of any element.
> Right now I am thinking just about the one available in Mootools:
> http://docs.mootools.net/Element/Element-Dimensions.js#Element.getCoordinates
> 
> Prototype should help too:
> http://www.prototypejs.org/api/position
> 
> But I am sure there are many alternatives, hope others will fill the blanks 
> (Ext, jQuery, YUI etc)
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: OT Javascript - when is an element visible

[Massimo Foti]

> Doesn't sound fun though-- maybe someone will post and show us a
> pre-built function in the prototype library or something.  :)

Many libraries include a method to get the coordinates of any element.
Right now I am thinking just about the one available in Mootools:
http://docs.mootools.net/Element/Element-Dimensions.js#Element.getCoordinates

Prototype should help too:
http://www.prototypejs.org/api/position

But I am sure there are many alternatives, hope others will fill the blanks 
(Ext, jQuery, YUI etc)


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RE: OT Javascript - when is an element visible

[Brad Wood]

I know there is a JS method called .scrollIntoView() (IE only??) which
will cause the an element to scroll to where it is visible.  Not sure
how to tell if it is visible though.  I suppose if you know the edges of
the viewable area, you can calculate the position of the element in
question via its coordinates and size.

Doesn't sound fun though-- maybe someone will post and show us a
pre-built function in the prototype library or something.  :)

~Brad

What I'm trying to work out, is a way to find out when one of those
child
divs is visible and when it's not.

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OT Javascript - when is an element visible

[Adrian Lynch]

Sorry for the OT...

I have a parent div, which contains many child divs. The parent div is set
to scroll when it's content is to big.

What I'm trying to work out, is a way to find out when one of those child
divs is visible and when it's not.

I thought maybe scrollTop or offsetTop but I'm low on sugar and would love a
push in the right direction.

Thanks.

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RE: OT: javascript to keep a user from navigating away

[Chad Gray]

Thanks again Isaac!

Here is my final code so people can enjoy (add the script tags around the 
javascript).  It does not fire when submit is clicked, but if you refresh or 
use the back/forward button or try to close the browser it fires.

function unloadMessage(){
message = "Dont go.. what you typed in the form will be lost!"
return message;
}

function setBeforeUnload(on){
window.onbeforeunload = (on) ? unloadMessage : null;
}

setBeforeUnload(true);


 




-Original Message-
From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 3:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: javascript to keep a user from navigating away

> I would like to make javascript that when the window.onUnload is
> fired to pop up a confirm() saying "hey if you leave now your form
> information will not be saved.  Do you wish to continue?". But I think
> once onUnload fires there is no stopping the user from leaving the
> page.  Can you cancel onUnload once it fires?

I believe it's doable... not necessarily the best case for usability... 

however... 

in order to work across both IE and firefox/moz you have to use two
event handlers. In moz, "onunload" can be cancelled



in IE, the onunload event doesn't fire until after the browser is
already closed, however, they have a prioprietary onbeforeunload event,
so you can use that one instead to do the same thing for IE. Iirc you
don't have to do any special checking or anything, just copy whatever
you put in onunload into onbeforeunload also and you'll get the result
you want. 

I was asked to do this several years ago for a company in Ft Lauderdale.

hth,
ike

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Re: OT: javascript to keep a user from navigating away

[s. isaac dealey]

> I would like to make javascript that when the window.onUnload is
> fired to pop up a confirm() saying "hey if you leave now your form
> information will not be saved.  Do you wish to continue?". But I think
> once onUnload fires there is no stopping the user from leaving the
> page.  Can you cancel onUnload once it fires?

I believe it's doable... not necessarily the best case for usability... 

however... 

in order to work across both IE and firefox/moz you have to use two
event handlers. In moz, "onunload" can be cancelled



in IE, the onunload event doesn't fire until after the browser is
already closed, however, they have a prioprietary onbeforeunload event,
so you can use that one instead to do the same thing for IE. Iirc you
don't have to do any special checking or anything, just copy whatever
you put in onunload into onbeforeunload also and you'll get the result
you want. 

I was asked to do this several years ago for a company in Ft Lauderdale.

hth,
ike

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OT: javascript to keep a user from navigating away

[Chad Gray]

I would like to make javascript that when the window.onUnload is fired to pop 
up a confirm() saying "hey if you leave now your form information will not be 
saved.  Do you wish to continue?".

But I think once onUnload fires there is no stopping the user from leaving the 
page.  

Can you cancel onUnload once it fires?




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Re: OT: Javascript MouseOver

[Matt Williams]

missing a comma after left=450   ?

On 8/21/07, Steve LaBadie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have created a mouse over effect and it works fine.  The only problem
> I am having is that the top= in the below example does not work in
> Firefox.  Are there any ideas to resolve this issue? The window stay at
> the top instead of coming down 350px.
>
>
>
>
>
> Code:
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> Calling Link:
>
> https://ssl.esu.edu/1card/"; target="_blank"
> onMouseOver="openWindow()" onMouseOut="closeIt()" onClick="return
> false">Link
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve LaBadie, Web Manager
> East Stroudsburg University
> 200 Prospect St.
> East Stroudsburg, Pa 18301
> 570-422-3999
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> http://www.esu.edu 
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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OT: Javascript MouseOver

[Steve LaBadie]

I have created a mouse over effect and it works fine.  The only problem
I am having is that the top= in the below example does not work in
Firefox.  Are there any ideas to resolve this issue? The window stay at
the top instead of coming down 350px.

 

 

Code:





 

 

Calling Link:

https://ssl.esu.edu/1card/"; target="_blank"
onMouseOver="openWindow()" onMouseOut="closeIt()" onClick="return
false">Link

 

 

Steve LaBadie, Web Manager
East Stroudsburg University
200 Prospect St.
East Stroudsburg, Pa 18301
570-422-3999
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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OT: javascript help

[Dan Munez]

hey guys i have a little window with a link on it opened up a popup window and 
gave it a name.  the new window also has frames in it.  I would like to 
manipulate the forms in that frame, like giving it certain values and stuff, by 
calling it from the little window.  how do I do that?  so far i am calling it 
as window.NEWWINDOWNAME.FRAMENAME.document.formname.inputformname.value  but it 
gives me an object undefined error.  help please!

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Re: OT: javascript

[Charlie Griefer]

On 5/17/07, Daniel Baughman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure you want
> document.getElementById(textInputID).disabled  =
> true
> not
> document.getElementById(textInputID).style.disabled
> = true;

indeed.  sorry 'bout that.  haven't had coffee yet :)

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RE: OT: javascript

[Daniel Baughman]

I'm pretty sure you want 
document.getElementById(textInputID).disabled  =
true 
not 
document.getElementById(textInputID).style.disabled
= true;



-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: javascript


in this case, you don't need 'foo'.  just 'moo'.  even though they could be
in different forms, an id value should not be repeated on a page.

so...

function disabler(textInputID) {
   document.getElementById(textInputID).style.disabled=true;
}



 

On 5/17/07, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to write a javascript function that I can use on all of my forms
and inputs to disable a text input.  So I want to pass to the function the
form's ID and the text input's ID to be disabled.
>
> How do I append the functions attributes to my document command?
>
> My javascript below does not work.
>
>
> Function disabler(formID,textInputID) {
>
> document.formID.textInputID.disabled=true;
>
> }
>
> 
> 
>  
>
>
>
> 



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Re: OT: javascript

[Charlie Griefer]

in this case, you don't need 'foo'.  just 'moo'.  even though they
could be in different forms, an id value should not be repeated on a
page.

so...

function disabler(textInputID) {
   document.getElementById(textInputID).style.disabled=true;
}






On 5/17/07, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to write a javascript function that I can use on all of my forms and 
> inputs to disable a text input.  So I want to pass to the function the form's 
> ID and the text input's ID to be disabled.
>
> How do I append the functions attributes to my document command?
>
> My javascript below does not work.
>
>
> Function disabler(formID,textInputID) {
>
> document.formID.textInputID.disabled=true;
>
> }
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
> 

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OT: javascript

[Chad Gray]

I want to write a javascript function that I can use on all of my forms and 
inputs to disable a text input.  So I want to pass to the function the form's 
ID and the text input's ID to be disabled.

How do I append the functions attributes to my document command?

My javascript below does not work.


Function disabler(formID,textInputID) {

document.formID.textInputID.disabled=true;

}








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OT: Javascript Question

[Scott Stewart]

Hey all, 

 

 

How would I control a select tag based on this.

 

function updateSelectedJournals(responseStruct) {

$('selectedJournals').innerHTML = "Selected Journals
("+responseStruct.total+")";

$('lstSelectedTerms').innerHTML = responseStruct.lstoutput;

 

 

I have ORAND 

I want the "and" to show up if repsonseStruct.total is greater than 1.

 

Thanks

 

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OT: Javascript Question

[Brad Wood]

Hi guys, I've got a JavaScript question which has me puzzled.  Can an
instance of a JavaScript object "know" the name of its instance?

 

That might not make any sense, so I have some quick sample code.
Consider the following:

 



 

customObject = function()

{

}



customObject.prototype.whoAmI = function()

{

return 'My instance name is ' + ??;

}

 

myObject = new customObject();

 

alert(myObject.whoAmI());





 

What would I need to replace the "??" with to make the output say "My
instance name is myObject"?

this.something??

 

I don't even know if this is possible, but in theory I might have
several instances of the same object in the page and I want to know if
they can be "smart" enough to know which one they are.

 

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RE: OT: javascript to prevent a normal link from working

[Joshua Cyr]

Just to close the loop, I found a way to do it with the yahoo event handler.


Basically I have tabs that pull data from other files, and if those files
have links and the link is to an internal document open the liked doc in the
tab, if an external document link like normal.  Sort of like using an iframe
but no iframes. 

Working example here.  Click on 'don' to open other files.  Actually tab 1
is a separate .htm file as well.

http://dev.besavvy.com/Spry_P1_4_1214/samples/tabbedpanels/tabbed_panel_samp
le.htm#



Joshua

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Cyr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: javascript to prevent a normal link from working

Ah, but these are links I have no control over from other pages.  The trick
is that they are just normal pages that are pulled in to the tab. 


Joshua Cyr
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From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: javascript to prevent a normal link from working

return false in your  tag.

foo

On 12/19/06, Joshua Cyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am playing with YUI and spry and have a fun task of having content 
> from other pages load into a tab system in spry.  All is working well 
> so
far.
> Next I have event listener code to check for the click of any link in 
> that tab content area (which is a separate file).  Those links are 
> just normal links with no onclick or anything.  If you click on it 
> load that linked pages data into the tab.  That also works.
>
> What I am stuck on now is how to get the page to then stop going to 
> the new page.  In other words if the link goes to 'aboutus.cfm' I can 
> get the content of aboutus.cfm to load into the tab content area, but 
> the page then reloads fully to go to the aboutus.cfm page.
>
> Basically clicking on a link will trigger the function below which 
> needs to stop the default behavior of opening a new page.
>
> I use return false; in my function, but that only cancel's things in
> IE7 and not firefox.  I also tried return(false); with same result.
>
> Relevant JS is:
>
> function clickHandler(e) {
>   var elTarget = YAHOO.util.Event.getTarget(e); // sets the var with 
> the href of the new page
>   Spry.Utils.updateContent('apDiv1',elTarget);  // updates my div with 
> new content
>   return(false);  // try to stop browser from opening new page } 
> YAHOO.example.init = function() { 
> YAHOO.util.Event.on(YAHOO.util.Dom.getElementsByClassName('joshua',
> 'div')[0], "click", clickHandler);
> }
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> 





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RE: OT: javascript to prevent a normal link from working

[Joshua Cyr]

Ah, but these are links I have no control over from other pages.  The trick
is that they are just normal pages that are pulled in to the tab. 


Joshua Cyr
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From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: javascript to prevent a normal link from working

return false in your  tag.

foo

On 12/19/06, Joshua Cyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am playing with YUI and spry and have a fun task of having content 
> from other pages load into a tab system in spry.  All is working well so
far.
> Next I have event listener code to check for the click of any link in 
> that tab content area (which is a separate file).  Those links are 
> just normal links with no onclick or anything.  If you click on it 
> load that linked pages data into the tab.  That also works.
>
> What I am stuck on now is how to get the page to then stop going to 
> the new page.  In other words if the link goes to 'aboutus.cfm' I can 
> get the content of aboutus.cfm to load into the tab content area, but 
> the page then reloads fully to go to the aboutus.cfm page.
>
> Basically clicking on a link will trigger the function below which 
> needs to stop the default behavior of opening a new page.
>
> I use return false; in my function, but that only cancel's things in 
> IE7 and not firefox.  I also tried return(false); with same result.
>
> Relevant JS is:
>
> function clickHandler(e) {
>   var elTarget = YAHOO.util.Event.getTarget(e); // sets the var with 
> the href of the new page
>   Spry.Utils.updateContent('apDiv1',elTarget);  // updates my div with 
> new content
>   return(false);  // try to stop browser from opening new page } 
> YAHOO.example.init = function() { 
> YAHOO.util.Event.on(YAHOO.util.Dom.getElementsByClassName('joshua',
> 'div')[0], "click", clickHandler);
> }
>
>
> Joshua Cyr
> Savvy Software
> 866.870.6358
>  <http://www.besavvy.com/> www.besavvy.com
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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Re: OT: javascript to prevent a normal link from working

[Charlie Griefer]

return false in your  tag.

foo

On 12/19/06, Joshua Cyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am playing with YUI and spry and have a fun task of having content from
> other pages load into a tab system in spry.  All is working well so far.
> Next I have event listener code to check for the click of any link in that
> tab content area (which is a separate file).  Those links are just normal
> links with no onclick or anything.  If you click on it load that linked
> pages data into the tab.  That also works.
>
> What I am stuck on now is how to get the page to then stop going to the new
> page.  In other words if the link goes to 'aboutus.cfm' I can get the
> content of aboutus.cfm to load into the tab content area, but the page then
> reloads fully to go to the aboutus.cfm page.
>
> Basically clicking on a link will trigger the function below which needs to
> stop the default behavior of opening a new page.
>
> I use return false; in my function, but that only cancel's things in IE7 and
> not firefox.  I also tried return(false); with same result.
>
> Relevant JS is:
>
> function clickHandler(e) {
>   var elTarget = YAHOO.util.Event.getTarget(e); // sets the var with the
> href of the new page
>   Spry.Utils.updateContent('apDiv1',elTarget);  // updates my div with new
> content
>   return(false);  // try to stop browser from opening new page
> }
> YAHOO.example.init = function() {
> YAHOO.util.Event.on(YAHOO.util.Dom.getElementsByClassName('joshua',
> 'div')[0], "click", clickHandler);
> }
>
>
> Joshua Cyr
> Savvy Software
> 866.870.6358
>   www.besavvy.com
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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OT: javascript to prevent a normal link from working

[Joshua Cyr]

I am playing with YUI and spry and have a fun task of having content from
other pages load into a tab system in spry.  All is working well so far.
Next I have event listener code to check for the click of any link in that
tab content area (which is a separate file).  Those links are just normal
links with no onclick or anything.  If you click on it load that linked
pages data into the tab.  That also works.  
 
What I am stuck on now is how to get the page to then stop going to the new
page.  In other words if the link goes to 'aboutus.cfm' I can get the
content of aboutus.cfm to load into the tab content area, but the page then
reloads fully to go to the aboutus.cfm page.  
 
Basically clicking on a link will trigger the function below which needs to
stop the default behavior of opening a new page.
 
I use return false; in my function, but that only cancel's things in IE7 and
not firefox.  I also tried return(false); with same result.
 
Relevant JS is:
 
function clickHandler(e) { 
  var elTarget = YAHOO.util.Event.getTarget(e); // sets the var with the
href of the new page
  Spry.Utils.updateContent('apDiv1',elTarget);  // updates my div with new
content
  return(false);  // try to stop browser from opening new page
}
YAHOO.example.init = function() {
YAHOO.util.Event.on(YAHOO.util.Dom.getElementsByClassName('joshua',
'div')[0], "click", clickHandler);
}
 

Joshua Cyr
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  www.besavvy.com

 



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RE: OT: Javascript - Refresh a window

[Andy Matthews]

Make sure the refresh line goes before the self.close line or else it won't
work.



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Dave Francis wrote:
> Hi,
>   I have a window from which I open pop-up with JS window.open();. When I
> close this pop-up - self.close(); - is there any way to force a refresh of
> the "parent" window?
>

opener.window.location.reload()



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RE: OT: Javascript - Refresh a window

[Dave Francis]

Well, that was quick. Thanks Jim

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Dave Francis wrote:
> Hi,
>   I have a window from which I open pop-up with JS window.open();. When I
> close this pop-up - self.close(); - is there any way to force a refresh of
> the "parent" window?
>

opener.window.location.reload()



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Re: OT: Javascript - Refresh a window

[Jim Wright]

Dave Francis wrote:
> Hi,
>   I have a window from which I open pop-up with JS window.open();. When I
> close this pop-up - self.close(); - is there any way to force a refresh of
> the "parent" window?
> 

opener.window.location.reload()

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OT: Javascript - Refresh a window

[Dave Francis]

Hi,
I have a window from which I open pop-up with JS window.open();. When I
close this pop-up - self.close(); - is there any way to force a refresh of
the "parent" window?

Thanks in advance for any and all help,

Dave


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Re: OT: Javascript Menu that Displays Over IFrames

[Mingo Hagen]

Matt Robertson wrote:
> The Brain Jar menu carries a GNU General Public License.  To quote from it:
>
> 2. b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
> whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any
> part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third
> parties under the terms of this License.
>
> This and the text that immediately follows gives someone off the
> street a legal claim to a copy of the source for your work.  Not
> something a customer or employer wants to hear about the programming
> they paid for.
>
> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.txt
>
> Sorry for the downer,
Hmm... has that always been there? I seem to remember different, because 
I specifically chose this one because of it's license (or lack 
thereof)... To bad the robots.txt doesn't allow me to see it in the Way 
back machine...

So perhaps it's time to either release the CMS in the wild (and all 
websites with it) or replace it with the one Ali found. Care to share it 
with the community, Ali? Or roll my own...

Mingo.


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Re: OT: Javascript Menu that Displays Over IFrames

[Matt Robertson]

The Brain Jar menu carries a GNU General Public License.  To quote from it:

2. b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any
part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third
parties under the terms of this License.

This and the text that immediately follows gives someone off the
street a legal claim to a copy of the source for your work.  Not
something a customer or employer wants to hear about the programming
they paid for.

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.txt

Sorry for the downer,

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Re: OT: Javascript Menu that Displays Over IFrames

[Ali Awan]

Mingo,

Thanks, that looks really nice.  I'll keep that in mind for the future.
But for right now, I found something really simple.  An almost entirely CSS 
solution, which much less Javascript to worry about.

Ali
> I should have replied earlier, but for the sake of completeness, the 
> Brainjar.com menu has always helped me out, we've even integrated it 
> in 
> our CMS. Check it out at: http://www.brainjar.com/dhtml/menubar/ There 
> 
> are other menu's out ther that have a smaller footprint, or some that 
> 
> have an insane amount of options. This one however had the right 
> balance 
> for me. Fast, explained well, validates through w3c.
> 
> Mingo.
> 
> Ali Awan wrote:
> > Thanks for all the fish
> > Actually I kind of figured this out. 
> > I found some free CSS menus, which via-css convert an Unordered List 
> to an invisible Iframe, so now the drop-downs display over the select 
> boxes an IFrames.
> 

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Re: OT: Javascript Menu that Displays Over IFrames

[Mingo Hagen]

I should have replied earlier, but for the sake of completeness, the 
Brainjar.com menu has always helped me out, we've even integrated it in 
our CMS. Check it out at: http://www.brainjar.com/dhtml/menubar/ There 
are other menu's out ther that have a smaller footprint, or some that 
have an insane amount of options. This one however had the right balance 
for me. Fast, explained well, validates through w3c.

Mingo.

Ali Awan wrote:
> Thanks for all the fish
> Actually I kind of figured this out. 
> I found some free CSS menus, which via-css convert an Unordered List to an 
> invisible Iframe, so now the drop-downs display over the select boxes an 
> IFrames.



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Re: OT: Javascript Menu that Displays Over IFrames

[Ali Awan]

Thanks for all the fish
Actually I kind of figured this out. 
I found some free CSS menus, which via-css convert an Unordered List to an 
invisible Iframe, so now the drop-downs display over the select boxes an 
IFrames.

Ali

>Ali,
>
>I've used a trick to get drop downs to float over select boxes in IE.
>The trick is to put an relatively positioned empty iframe behind each
>one of your drop down menu.
>
>
>
>
>
>On 7/14/06, Ali Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>

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OT: JavaScript

[Ian Skinner]

Is there a function or property to will identify what position a childNode is 
in the childNode array of its parent?


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Re: OT: Javascript Menu that Displays Over IFrames

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Ali,

I've used a trick to get drop downs to float over select boxes in IE.
The trick is to put an relatively positioned empty iframe behind each
one of your drop down menu.





On 7/14/06, Ali Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know this is not a CF question, but since this list has a lot more
> activity than the Javascript one, I never get any questions answered there,
> I figured there are many more people on here that are more well-versed in
> javascript than I.
>
>
>
> I am looking for a free DHTML/Javascript Drop-Down navigation that will
> display over i-frames.
>
> If anyone knows of any, or even how to get a Javascript drop-down menu to
> display over i-frames in the first place, I would be extremely grateful.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ali
>
>
>
> 

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OT: Javascript Menu that Displays Over IFrames

[Ali Awan]

I know this is not a CF question, but since this list has a lot more
activity than the Javascript one, I never get any questions answered there,
I figured there are many more people on here that are more well-versed in
javascript than I.

 

I am looking for a free DHTML/Javascript Drop-Down navigation that will
display over i-frames.

If anyone knows of any, or even how to get a Javascript drop-down menu to
display over i-frames in the first place, I would be extremely grateful.

 

Thanks,

Ali



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