RE: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
If I was wrong I apologize. I really, really hate SPAM and I've seen way too many attempts to veil it with a thinly disguised, "Hey guys check this out", followed by 2 pages of propaganda. No harm done. Steve -Original Message- From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 12:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? Steve, Why would you say that? Clinton's posted here before, and his usual posts don't seem to be SPAM. I think it was a useful post. Not like he just stopped by to post that tidbit and then be gone. :) Thanks Clinton. Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
The fact is that as technology progresses, some things that it was important to do by hand become less so. Using SQL Server is a good example of this. A good admin needs to know more than the new wizards in SQL server 7, but that doesn't mean that the wizards are all bad, are necessarily inferior, or even that there is a compelling reason to know how to do by hand what some of the wizards do. If they do the job properly, that's what matters. You simply bypass those that don't. And THAT is the key! Similarly with visual editors. I still use Studio for the most part, but I sometimes use Dreamweaver. There are many operations that are just much faster with a visual editor and if you know what you are doing, then you don't have to worry about bad code because you won't be making it (unlike Frontpage where you can't stop it). Take tables: it is much faster to move columns around and generally manipulate tables in DW than in Studio, so I often pop in there to do it. I have no idea what a previous poster was talking about: DW never inserts lots of empty rows or anything else. Fireworks creates shim rows when it outputs HTML tables to split graphics, but I've never had DW do that. On the other hand, outside of particular things that I find quicker to pop into DW to do, I still code by hand using Studio or TextPad. Knee-jerk ignorance of the tools will no more benefit a developer than knee-jerk acceptance. They have to be evaluated and used properly if they are used at all. But I guarantee that there are many operations which, by dropping into a good visual editor, I will complete faster and with equal quality, than anyone using a text-based editor-- and no one on the receiving end will ever know which is which. As long as that is the case, it's a good thing. c -- Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Manager p907.474.5122 | f907.474.5402 | PGP Key ID: 0x8687E87E -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
!-- From: Bud Schneehagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] !-- Re: Steve Bernard !-- Why would you say that? Clinton's posted here before, and his usual !-- posts don't seem to be SPAM. I think it was a useful post. Not like !-- he just stopped by to post that tidbit and then be gone. :) !-- !-- Thanks Clinton. Thank you Bud. I need to say that Michael D. sent me mail stating the length and the apparent tome of the post were inappropriate for the list as it sounded like spam. So I responded to his mail and sent him a modification. That Michael then allowed the original to post to CF-Talk was his doing, albeit as a result of my excitement over what appears to be a real breakthrough in development tool strategy. I think it is to Macromedia's credit - and to respect their acknowledgement of HomeSite in the first place - that they are working to provide what they believe is needed by the customer. That's you and me friends and colleagues. I think it would be appropriate for Michael to acknowledge my immediate cooperation regarding my response to his mail and the my re-submittal of a modification - which has yet to appear...and needn't as it is now mute but for the fact and the ack that I did respond cooperatively. I like Allaire's tools as well as any other products that I use but I'm in business for me - to make a profit - and to product high quality results for my customers. Yes, I code by hand, and I also use any and all authoring or any other tool that will help me represent my customer to produce the highest quality result to achieve the most affordable cost-performance benefit. After fifteen years of experience in this industry I've earned my insights and my opinions are based on experience - not emotional whining or unreasonable conjecture. That Allaire has been having a tough time balancing their reach for the enterprise while allowing their development tools to slip away to the competition is of concern to me. That Macromedia is accepting the challenge and producing results is important news. !-- Clinton Gallagher http://home.att.net/~csgallagher/ -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
As far as I am aware, Homesite is not about to be dropped. Allaire's next major version of Homesite will be, apparently, a big overhaul, with a lot of improved layout control. Nick At 19:54 5/04/00 -0500, you wrote: HomeSite is the best and most popular development tool around *but* is extremely vulnerable to the fact that developers can no longer afford to *not* also use a layout-page-code generator in conjunction with HomeSite or ***as a total replacement*** to be 100% productive. It seems Macromedia has not been as asleep at the wheel and I wonder what the near future will bring...Consider this announcement from Macromedia... Macromedia announces code name UltraDev at Internet World today. What is UltraDev? Designed specifically for application development, UltraDev is a brand new product based on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev is the first solution to support ASP, JSP and CFML within a single design environment. Once UltraDev ships it will allow you to: 1. Create professional web applications UltraDev provides everything you need to build, manage, and deploy dynamic, database-driven Web applications. 2. Maintain total control over code UltraDev is the only product with visual and source editing for total control over source code. 3. Connect easily to databases Quickly connect existing, static web pages to any ODBC, JDBC, or ADO database including Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and Microsoft Access. 4. View server-side data in the workspace Save time and avoid repetitive tasks by viewing, testing, and editing live data returned from the application server in your workspace. 5. Build for industry-standard servers UltraDev is the only solution that lets you build ASP, JSP, and Cold Fusion sites in one single design environment. Build sites for robust industry servers like Microsoft IIS, Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape Enterprise Server. 6. Create robust enterprise-ready Web applications Through extensibility, UltraDev integrates with other leading servers, Web applications and e-commerce solutions. UltraDev is NOT a replacement to Dreamweaver, it's a new standalone product built on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev IS the replacement to Drumbeat. Macromedia is not planning to rev Drumbeat. UltraDev is expected to ship in June. FAQ What is the difference between Dreamweaver and UltraDev? Dreamweaver is a visual design solution for creating HTML web sites. While Dreamweaver is open to integrating with leading web application servers, it is not engineered for visually creating web applications. UltraDev was built specifically for creating dynamic Web applications using technologies like ASP, JSP, and CFML. What is the price of UltraDev? Macromedia has not yet announced pricing for UltraDev. However, it will be priced competitively with other Web application development environments. I am a Macromedia customer and I currently develop Web applications. Will I be able to purchase UltraDev for a special price? Yes, but you must register your Macromedia product to qualify for any special offer. Is UltraDev an add-on to Dreamweaver? No, it is a new stand-alone product that is designed to meet the specific needs of Web application developers. Does UltraDev replace Drumbeat? Yes. When UltraDev ships it will replace Drumbeat as Macromedia's solution for Web application development. Will there be an upgrade path from Drumbeat to UltraDev? Yes, registered users of Drumbeat will be offered an upgrade at a very competitive price. Will you continue to support Drumbeat? Yes, we will continue to provide Drumbeat technical support through the end of the year. Does this mean you won't be updating Drumbeat? Correct, UltraDev replaces Drumbeat as the Macromedia solution for creating Web applications. Will there be an e-commerce edition of UltraDev? The core product will not include any e-commerce specific features, but through the power of extensibility and our network of developers, you will be able to easily download extensions for creating e-commerce applications. Will I be able to open and edit my Drumbeat sites in UltraDev? Yes, UltraDev reads and writes ASP, JSP, and CFML. The published pages of your Drumbeat sites can be opened and edited. However UltraDev will not open .edf files. Will my Dreamweaver sites work in UltraDev? Dreamweaver's native file format is HTML. UltraDev reads, recognizes and parses HTML, so there won't be any problems opening files built in Dreamweaver or any other application like Cold Fusion Studio, FrontPage, and HomeSite. When will UltraDev be available? UltraDev is expected to be available in June 2000. I just bought Drumbeat, do I qualify for a free upgrade to UltraDev? Customers who buy Drumbeat after April 5, 2000 qualify for a free upgrade to UltraDev when it becomes available. Will UltraDev be available in languages other than English? Yes, the first release of UltraDev will be
Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Well, unless this app provides a significant improvement over Drumbeat's UI, I wouldnt worry too much about the fate of Homesite or Studio. Or at least worry about a mass exodus of developers un-installing HS and CF Studio in favor Ultra Dev. Sounds like a good marketing piece though. One more booth to add to the list for fridays visit to I-World. Stephen M. Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. "Specialized Insurance for IT - We Cover IT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949.581.2333 (v) 949.581.2814 (f) -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Stephen, Stop by and visit our booth at Internet World. Tell'em I sent you. Duane (from Ektron) -Original Message- From: Steve Aylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? Well, unless this app provides a significant improvement over Drumbeat's UI, I wouldnt worry too much about the fate of Homesite or Studio. Or at least worry about a mass exodus of developers un-installing HS and CF Studio in favor Ultra Dev. Sounds like a good marketing piece though. One more booth to add to the list for fridays visit to I-World. Stephen M. Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. "Specialized Insurance for IT - We Cover IT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949.581.2333 (v) 949.581.2814 (f) -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Stephen, Stop by and visit our booth at Internet World too. Tell'em I sent you. Duane (from Ektron) -Original Message- From: Steve Aylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? Well, unless this app provides a significant improvement over Drumbeat's UI, I wouldnt worry too much about the fate of Homesite or Studio. Or at least worry about a mass exodus of developers un-installing HS and CF Studio in favor Ultra Dev. Sounds like a good marketing piece though. One more booth to add to the list for fridays visit to I-World. Stephen M. Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. "Specialized Insurance for IT - We Cover IT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949.581.2333 (v) 949.581.2814 (f) -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: (admin) Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Products can't be under NDA - only people who signed NDAs can be under NDAs. Products are incapable of signing contracts. Also, I have signed no such contract. Therefore it ought to be legal for me to talk about such a product whenever I want. Perhaps the original poster was under NDA, but that should hardly affect the rest of the list population. If Macromedia has a problem, they'll have to take it up with whomever violated said NDA. my 2c -Tim At 09:56 PM 00/04/05 -0400, you wrote: Please note that this product is still under NDA from what I know and those who are beta testing it should not be speaking about it on the list. Anything that is under NDA should NEVER be posted to the list. The last thing we all need is a company coming down on us for 'breaking' NDA. That being said, let me say that any 'press releases' like this should have a header on the subject line announcing themselves as such. WTF? What's going on here? Using a listserv to SPAM the entire CF community, and under the weak guise of a query into the viability of HomeSite? This is quite lame. I hope that Mike does not allow this to continue. Steve -Original Message- From: WorldNet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? HomeSite is the best and most popular development tool around *but* is extremely vulnerable to the fact that developers can no longer afford to *not* also use a layout-page-code generator in conjunction with HomeSite or ***as a total replacement*** to be 100% productive. It seems Macromedia has not been as asleep at the wheel and I wonder what the near future will bring...Consider this announcement from Macromedia... Macromedia announces code name UltraDev at Internet World today. What is UltraDev? Designed specifically for application development, UltraDev is a brand new product based on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev is the first solution to support ASP, JSP and CFML within a single design environment. Once UltraDev ships it will allow you to: 1. Create professional web applications UltraDev provides everything you need to build, manage, and deploy dynamic, database-driven Web applications. 2. Maintain total control over code UltraDev is the only product with visual and source editing for total control over source code. 3. Connect easily to databases Quickly connect existing, static web pages to any ODBC, JDBC, or ADO database including Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and Microsoft Access. 4. View server-side data in the workspace Save time and avoid repetitive tasks by viewing, testing, and editing live data returned from the application server in your workspace. 5. Build for industry-standard servers UltraDev is the only solution that lets you build ASP, JSP, and Cold Fusion sites in one single design environment. Build sites for robust industry servers like Microsoft IIS, Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape Enterprise Server. 6. Create robust enterprise-ready Web applications Through extensibility, UltraDev integrates with other leading servers, Web applications and e-commerce solutions. UltraDev is NOT a replacement to Dreamweaver, it's a new standalone product built on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev IS the replacement to Drumbeat. Macromedia is not planning to rev Drumbeat. UltraDev is expected to ship in June. FAQ What is the difference between Dreamweaver and UltraDev? Dreamweaver is a visual design solution for creating HTML web sites. While Dreamweaver is open to integrating with leading web application servers, it is not engineered for visually creating web applications. UltraDev was built specifically for creating dynamic Web applications using technologies like ASP, JSP, and CFML. What is the price of UltraDev? Macromedia has not yet announced pricing for UltraDev. However, it will be priced competitively with other Web application development environments. I am a Macromedia customer and I currently develop Web applications. Will I be able to purchase UltraDev for a special price? Yes, but you must register your Macromedia product to qualify for any special offer. Is UltraDev an add-on to Dreamweaver? No, it is a new stand-alone product that is designed to meet the specific needs of Web application developers. Does UltraDev replace Drumbeat? Yes. When UltraDev ships it will replace Drumbeat as Macromedia's solution for Web application development. Will there be an upgrade path from Drumbeat to UltraDev? Yes, registered users of Drumbeat will be offered an upgrade at a very competitive price. Will you continue to support Drumbeat? Yes, we will continue to provide Drumbeat technical support through the end of the year. Does this mean you won't be updating Drumbeat? Correct, UltraDev replaces Drumbeat as the Macromedia solution for creating
Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Sounds real cool. Porbably buggy as hell. Guess I'm the last guy around still writing raw html/cfml/asp using God Give Me Strength - Notepad or NoteTab. But I know the markup language cold. Alan Wolf, MCSE, MCP, MCP + I [EMAIL PROTECTED] SAIC Frederick PO Box B Bldg 244 Frederick, Maryland 21702 301-846-5479 (V) 301-846-1395 (F) - Original Message - From: WorldNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? HomeSite is the best and most popular development tool around *but* is extremely vulnerable to the fact that developers can no longer afford to *not* also use a layout-page-code generator in conjunction with HomeSite or ***as a total replacement*** to be 100% productive. It seems Macromedia has not been as asleep at the wheel and I wonder what the near future will bring...Consider this announcement from Macromedia... Macromedia announces code name UltraDev at Internet World today. What is UltraDev? Designed specifically for application development, UltraDev is a brand new product based on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev is the first solution to support ASP, JSP and CFML within a single design environment. Once UltraDev ships it will allow you to: 1. Create professional web applications UltraDev provides everything you need to build, manage, and deploy dynamic, database-driven Web applications. 2. Maintain total control over code UltraDev is the only product with visual and source editing for total control over source code. 3. Connect easily to databases Quickly connect existing, static web pages to any ODBC, JDBC, or ADO database including Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and Microsoft Access. 4. View server-side data in the workspace Save time and avoid repetitive tasks by viewing, testing, and editing live data returned from the application server in your workspace. 5. Build for industry-standard servers UltraDev is the only solution that lets you build ASP, JSP, and Cold Fusion sites in one single design environment. Build sites for robust industry servers like Microsoft IIS, Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape Enterprise Server. 6. Create robust enterprise-ready Web applications Through extensibility, UltraDev integrates with other leading servers, Web applications and e-commerce solutions. UltraDev is NOT a replacement to Dreamweaver, it's a new standalone product built on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev IS the replacement to Drumbeat. Macromedia is not planning to rev Drumbeat. UltraDev is expected to ship in June. FAQ What is the difference between Dreamweaver and UltraDev? Dreamweaver is a visual design solution for creating HTML web sites. While Dreamweaver is open to integrating with leading web application servers, it is not engineered for visually creating web applications. UltraDev was built specifically for creating dynamic Web applications using technologies like ASP, JSP, and CFML. What is the price of UltraDev? Macromedia has not yet announced pricing for UltraDev. However, it will be priced competitively with other Web application development environments. I am a Macromedia customer and I currently develop Web applications. Will I be able to purchase UltraDev for a special price? Yes, but you must register your Macromedia product to qualify for any special offer. Is UltraDev an add-on to Dreamweaver? No, it is a new stand-alone product that is designed to meet the specific needs of Web application developers. Does UltraDev replace Drumbeat? Yes. When UltraDev ships it will replace Drumbeat as Macromedia's solution for Web application development. Will there be an upgrade path from Drumbeat to UltraDev? Yes, registered users of Drumbeat will be offered an upgrade at a very competitive price. Will you continue to support Drumbeat? Yes, we will continue to provide Drumbeat technical support through the end of the year. Does this mean you won't be updating Drumbeat? Correct, UltraDev replaces Drumbeat as the Macromedia solution for creating Web applications. Will there be an e-commerce edition of UltraDev? The core product will not include any e-commerce specific features, but through the power of extensibility and our network of developers, you will be able to easily download extensions for creating e-commerce applications. Will I be able to open and edit my Drumbeat sites in UltraDev? Yes, UltraDev reads and writes ASP, JSP, and CFML. The published pages of your Drumbeat sites can be opened and edited. However UltraDev will not open .edf files. Will my Dreamweaver sites work in UltraDev? Dreamweaver's native file format is HTML. UltraDev reads, recognizes and parses HTML, so there won't be any problems opening files built in Dreamweaver or any other application like Cold Fusion Studio, FrontPage, and HomeSite. When
RE: (admin) Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Actually, all that info is now on the public site: http://www.macromedia.com/software/ultradev/ Please note that this product is still under NDA from what I know -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Your not alone out there. I first started doing web development in pico and vi so I'm still deeply entrenched in text mode editors. WSIWYG be damned! ;) Steve -Original Message- From: Alan Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? Sounds real cool. Porbably buggy as hell. Guess I'm the last guy around still writing raw html/cfml/asp using God Give Me Strength - Notepad or NoteTab. But I know the markup language cold. Alan Wolf, MCSE, MCP, MCP + I [EMAIL PROTECTED] SAIC Frederick PO Box B Bldg 244 Frederick, Maryland 21702 301-846-5479 (V) 301-846-1395 (F) -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Alan, can I suggest that you at least look at UltraEdit (www.ultraedit.com) which as a text editor leaves notepad in the dark ages? It handles files of any size, unlimited number of files open at once, has global search and replace over all open files, colour coding of html tags (which you can specify) etc, and above all, you can configure what's open when you start it - past files? projects? most recent folders?. If has macros that can do a vast array of stuff, and while this sounds like a Microsoft brochure, its' nowhere near as hard to use as microsoft programs. And if you're into , hand coding, I reckon it's the beezneez. I use the great tools too, CFStudio, Dreamweaver et al. but I use UltraEdit all the time. Disclaimer: I have no financial or other connection with UltraEdit, except that I'm a happy customer and have been using it since version 5.2 (it's up to v7.1 now) Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Web Development Windsor, NSW, Australia http://www.afp.zip.com.au On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Alan Wolf wrote: Sounds real cool. Porbably buggy as hell. Guess I'm the last guy around still writing raw html/cfml/asp using God Give Me Strength - Notepad or NoteTab. But I know the markup language cold. Alan Wolf, MCSE, MCP, MCP + I [EMAIL PROTECTED] SAIC Frederick PO Box B Bldg 244 Frederick, Maryland 21702 301-846-5479 (V) 301-846-1395 (F) - Original Message - From: WorldNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? HomeSite is the best and most popular development tool around *but* is extremely vulnerable to the fact that developers can no longer afford to *not* also use a layout-page-code generator in conjunction with HomeSite or ***as a total replacement*** to be 100% productive. It seems Macromedia has not been as asleep at the wheel and I wonder what the near future will bring...Consider this announcement from Macromedia... Macromedia announces code name UltraDev at Internet World today. What is UltraDev? Designed specifically for application development, UltraDev is a brand new product based on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev is the first solution to support ASP, JSP and CFML within a single design environment. Once UltraDev ships it will allow you to: 1. Create professional web applications UltraDev provides everything you need to build, manage, and deploy dynamic, database-driven Web applications. 2. Maintain total control over code UltraDev is the only product with visual and source editing for total control over source code. 3. Connect easily to databases Quickly connect existing, static web pages to any ODBC, JDBC, or ADO database including Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and Microsoft Access. 4. View server-side data in the workspace Save time and avoid repetitive tasks by viewing, testing, and editing live data returned from the application server in your workspace. 5. Build for industry-standard servers UltraDev is the only solution that lets you build ASP, JSP, and Cold Fusion sites in one single design environment. Build sites for robust industry servers like Microsoft IIS, Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape Enterprise Server. 6. Create robust enterprise-ready Web applications Through extensibility, UltraDev integrates with other leading servers, Web applications and e-commerce solutions. UltraDev is NOT a replacement to Dreamweaver, it's a new standalone product built on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev IS the replacement to Drumbeat. Macromedia is not planning to rev Drumbeat. UltraDev is expected to ship in June. FAQ What is the difference between Dreamweaver and UltraDev? Dreamweaver is a visual design solution for creating HTML web sites. While Dreamweaver is open to integrating with leading web application servers, it is not engineered for visually creating web applications. UltraDev was built specifically for creating dynamic Web applications using technologies like ASP, JSP, and CFML. What is the price of UltraDev? Macromedia has not yet announced pricing for UltraDev. However, it will be priced competitively with other Web application development environments. I am a Macromedia customer and I currently develop Web applications. Will I be able to purchase UltraDev for a special price? Yes, but you must register your Macromedia product to qualify for any special offer. Is UltraDev an add-on to Dreamweaver? No, it is a new stand-alone product that is designed to meet the specific needs of Web application developers. Does UltraDev replace Drumbeat? Yes. When UltraDev ships it will replace Drumbeat as Macromedia's solution for Web application development. Will there be an upgrade path from Drumbeat to UltraDev? Yes, registered users of
RE: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
But when it comes to my living - the web - I need to know all the ins and outs. I can't claim to be a professional at this unless I can understand what's going on in the apps I produce. Bingo. I have experienced a lot of problems with Homesite though, once I made the mistake of buying a Windows 98 machine. My old P120/Win95 ran faster than this P3-500/win98 Blasted memory leaks - when Homesite 4.5 runs out of memory, it behaves VERY poorly. Skip Ogden Ocoee Broadcasting -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
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What a load of hooey! Ignoring the fact that this message was a thinly-disguised advertisement for a competing product... Some of us out here actually KNOW HOW TO CODE! We don't need bloatware handholding to create high-quality sites. It's my opinion, but if you need this type of layout program to create websites, then you're not a programmer. You may be a designer, but you're not a programmer and should not be allowed to write code. Programmers actually take pride in *understanding what they are doing* instead of just connecting the pretty dots. I certainly don't do all of my coding in notepad, but the editors I do use (Homesite, CF Studio and Visual Studio) are primarily code-editors (First thing I do on install is disable the layout tab). Nonetheless, if Homesite and CF Studio were to disappear tomorrow, you'll find me happily editing in Notepad or vi. Bah, Amateurs! Michael J. Sheldon Internet Applications Developer Phone: 480.699.1084 http://www.desertraven.com/ PGP Key Available on Request -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
Some of us out here actually KNOW HOW TO CODE! We don't need bloatware handholding to create high-quality sites. And some of us that know how to code also know how to *properly* use a Visual Design Tool where and when appropriate to the task and/or team environment at hand. Just because a tool offers a visual component doesn't necessarily mean it's intended for amatuers nor that it will create bloated code when used *properly*. Should be interesting to see UltraDev given the quality of other Macromedia products. Ken -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
