RE: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread Mark Kruger
Jim,

Ryan works for me and we are working on the same project together :)

-mark 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Rising [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 11:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OCR Solutions

haha... ryan stille asked me the same thing. :)

here is what i replied:

we've been using the efaxdeveloper api to handle all of this right now, and
have not started testing the java4less stuff yet. the company i'm working on
that for is wanting to release to beta using efax and then evaluate other
options later. unfortunately, with the way that the agreements are setup
with the contract i'm on, i can't give out any of the efaxdeveloper code i'm
working on... but i could possibly work on the java4less stuff for you and
build a CFC wrapper for it that you could use it to generate barcodes and
read them. shouldn't be too hard.

-jim


On 12/6/07, Mark Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> Do you have any CF code using that java4less vision jar?
>
> -mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Rising [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:54 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OCR Solutions
>
> one quick note here... if you're using fax... efaxdeveloper.com has 
> the whole package... they will generate the datamatrix barcode via a 
> servlet for you, and they will check incoming fax for a barcode. the 
> api passes you an xml packet via http post (there are other methods 
> available) that contains the information found in the barcode along 
> with the fax document in base64.
> that's what i'm currently using for the project i've been working on, 
> but because of the costs associated with efax, we'll soon be moving to 
> another fax provider... and will start using something more along the 
> lines of the java4less stuff to handle the barcode creation and reading.
>
> -jim
>
>
> On 12/5/07, Ryan Stille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone else been having problems with the list missing emails, 
> > or coming through 8+ hours after it was originally posted?  I don't 
> > have the original message for this thread.  The web archive shows it 
> > was posted around lunch today.
> >
> > Anyway, I am going to need to implement something like this soon.  
> > Our images will come in via email, then I need to OCR a customer ID 
> > out of it and import appropriately.
> >
> > I was looking at JavaOCR (http://javaocr.com) and Asprise OCR, also 
> > written in Java.  So they should easily integrate with ColdFusion.
> > Neither are free.
> >
> > There are also several (free) open source OCR packages:
> >
> > GOCR http://jocr.sourceforge.net/
> > Ocrad http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html
> > Tesseract
> > _http://google-
> > code-updates.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-tesseract-ocr.html_
> >
> > But I have not looked into any of them yet.  But the barcode stuff 
> > Jim Rising mentioned (glad I checked the archive, as I don't have 
> > that email
> > either...) looks very interesting, and it looks like its a lot 
> > cheaper than OCR.  My images are actually coming in via fax, so 
> > OCR'ing that quality of an image may be a challenge.  I think the 
> > barcode may perform better.
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > Dave Watts wrote:
> > >> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be made to work 
> > >> with ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents scanned 
> > >> and emailed to a coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to find a 
> > >> person's name or account number.  The number will be used to 
> > >> match the document to a database record so the document can be 
> > >> attached to their account.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Since lots of scanners come with OCR solutions, why not do it there?
> > Adobe
> > > Acrobat does this quite well, in my opinion.
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/
> > >
> > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized 
> > > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, 
> > > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> > > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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Re: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread Jim Rising
haha... ryan stille asked me the same thing. :)

here is what i replied:

we've been using the efaxdeveloper api to handle all of this right now, and
have not started testing the java4less stuff yet. the company i'm working on
that for is wanting to release to beta using efax and then evaluate other
options later. unfortunately, with the way that the agreements are setup
with the contract i'm on, i can't give out any of the efaxdeveloper code i'm
working on... but i could possibly work on the java4less stuff for you and
build a CFC wrapper for it that you could use it to generate barcodes and
read them. shouldn't be too hard.

-jim


On 12/6/07, Mark Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> Do you have any CF code using that java4less vision jar?
>
> -mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Rising [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:54 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OCR Solutions
>
> one quick note here... if you're using fax... efaxdeveloper.com has the
> whole package... they will generate the datamatrix barcode via a servlet
> for
> you, and they will check incoming fax for a barcode. the api passes you an
> xml packet via http post (there are other methods available) that contains
> the information found in the barcode along with the fax document in
> base64.
> that's what i'm currently using for the project i've been working on, but
> because of the costs associated with efax, we'll soon be moving to another
> fax provider... and will start using something more along the lines of the
> java4less stuff to handle the barcode creation and reading.
>
> -jim
>
>
> On 12/5/07, Ryan Stille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone else been having problems with the list missing emails, or
> > coming through 8+ hours after it was originally posted?  I don't have
> > the original message for this thread.  The web archive shows it was
> > posted around lunch today.
> >
> > Anyway, I am going to need to implement something like this soon.  Our
> > images will come in via email, then I need to OCR a customer ID out of
> > it and import appropriately.
> >
> > I was looking at JavaOCR (http://javaocr.com) and Asprise OCR, also
> > written in Java.  So they should easily integrate with ColdFusion.
> > Neither are free.
> >
> > There are also several (free) open source OCR packages:
> >
> > GOCR http://jocr.sourceforge.net/
> > Ocrad http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html
> > Tesseract
> > _http://google-
> > code-updates.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-tesseract-ocr.html_
> >
> > But I have not looked into any of them yet.  But the barcode stuff Jim
> > Rising mentioned (glad I checked the archive, as I don't have that
> > email
> > either...) looks very interesting, and it looks like its a lot cheaper
> > than OCR.  My images are actually coming in via fax, so OCR'ing that
> > quality of an image may be a challenge.  I think the barcode may
> > perform better.
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > Dave Watts wrote:
> > >> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be made to work with
> > >> ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents scanned and
> > >> emailed to a coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to find a person's
> > >> name or account number.  The number will be used to match the
> > >> document to a database record so the document can be attached to
> > >> their account.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Since lots of scanners come with OCR solutions, why not do it there?
> > Adobe
> > > Acrobat does this quite well, in my opinion.
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > >
> > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
> > > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> > > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread Mark Kruger
Jim,

Do you have any CF code using that java4less vision jar?

-mark 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Rising [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OCR Solutions

one quick note here... if you're using fax... efaxdeveloper.com has the
whole package... they will generate the datamatrix barcode via a servlet for
you, and they will check incoming fax for a barcode. the api passes you an
xml packet via http post (there are other methods available) that contains
the information found in the barcode along with the fax document in base64.
that's what i'm currently using for the project i've been working on, but
because of the costs associated with efax, we'll soon be moving to another
fax provider... and will start using something more along the lines of the
java4less stuff to handle the barcode creation and reading.

-jim


On 12/5/07, Ryan Stille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else been having problems with the list missing emails, or 
> coming through 8+ hours after it was originally posted?  I don't have 
> the original message for this thread.  The web archive shows it was 
> posted around lunch today.
>
> Anyway, I am going to need to implement something like this soon.  Our 
> images will come in via email, then I need to OCR a customer ID out of 
> it and import appropriately.
>
> I was looking at JavaOCR (http://javaocr.com) and Asprise OCR, also 
> written in Java.  So they should easily integrate with ColdFusion.
> Neither are free.
>
> There are also several (free) open source OCR packages:
>
> GOCR http://jocr.sourceforge.net/
> Ocrad http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html
> Tesseract
> _http://google-
> code-updates.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-tesseract-ocr.html_
>
> But I have not looked into any of them yet.  But the barcode stuff Jim 
> Rising mentioned (glad I checked the archive, as I don't have that 
> email
> either...) looks very interesting, and it looks like its a lot cheaper 
> than OCR.  My images are actually coming in via fax, so OCR'ing that 
> quality of an image may be a challenge.  I think the barcode may 
> perform better.
>
> -Ryan
>
> Dave Watts wrote:
> >> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be made to work with 
> >> ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents scanned and 
> >> emailed to a coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to find a person's 
> >> name or account number.  The number will be used to match the 
> >> document to a database record so the document can be attached to 
> >> their account.
> >>
> >
> > Since lots of scanners come with OCR solutions, why not do it there?
> Adobe
> > Acrobat does this quite well, in my opinion.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized 
> > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, 
> > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
> >
> >
> >
>
> 



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RE: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread Dave Watts
> Then press send. (The copy machines I have seen don't have 
> good ways of typing in much beyond just numbers, so if they 
> had to type in the domain name too for the email address, 
> that would be a deal breaker--nobody would do it.)

A few years back, I worked a little with Xerox Docushare and related
hardware solutions. One of the things you could do was fill out a cover form
with pen and paper, and the machine would automatically OCR it and post the
document to the appropriate repository based on the data input from the
form. The form itself would generally be limited to pretty simple input;
you'd use a comb (something like this: |_|_|_|_|) for entering letters and
numbers.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

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Re: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread Jim Rising
if you're using fax... why not an inbound fax on demand solution? put an avr
menu in front that asks the user for account information (via touchtone)
prior to giving them a fax tone. you could probably do this with asterisk
 but i know that companies like faxBack (www.faxback.com) support this
sort of setup too. we actually went down the road with faxBack until we
found out that they needed support of SIP REFER from our 3rd party SIP
gateway if you're wanting to do fax over T.38 using voip. problem is... no
3rd party SIP gateway provider will support SIP REFER because it allows
un-metered voip calls. with the volume of calls that we're anticipating, an
analog solution just would not work... but faxBack would probably work well
for what you're wanting to do. the IRS uses it... so it can't be half bad.
:)

-jim


On 12/6/07, E C list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thank you again everyone who has been helping me.  I
> wasn't aware of this
> machine, and it is very interesting.  That may be a
> potential solution.
>
> The barcode idea is one that I have considered but it
> isn't very practical
> for us.  The reason I say that is that we have
> hundreds of customers and new
> ones are added daily.  Usually you'd only have one or
> two documents that
> need to scanned, so it would not be practical if
> someone had to stop and
> make barcodes and then stick them on a document (we
> don't generate all of
> the documents here so we can't just put barcodes on
> the documents when they
> are created--some of the documents in question would
> be invoices from
> suppliers for materials and things like that...).
>
> My other possible solution besides using Barcodes or
> OCR is to get a
> copier/scanner machine that  will send emails as
> described before.  But what
> I picture is that the machine would already know the
> domain where the email
> is going to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) so the sales guy would
> walk up to the machine
> and type in the unique 5 digit id for the customer as
> the email address.
> Then press send. (The copy machines I have seen don't
> have good ways of
> typing in much beyond just numbers, so if they had to
> type in the domain
> name too for the email address, that would be a deal
> breaker--nobody would
> do it.)  I'd have to find the right copy machine to do
> that.  I think the
> Sharp AR-M277 would possibly do that, but I have to
> put my hands on one to
> see.  I would set up the email server with a catch-all
> email address that
> would accept [EMAIL PROTECTED] when
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] comes in,
> coldFusion would POP it and then use the name as the
> ID number and VOILA.
>
> Any more comments or ideas appreciated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Livingston
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OCR Solutions
>
> I don't know what your budget is but we have used
> these in several document
> management solutions and they seem to be pretty idiot
> proof.
> Plus you can collect data and do ocr.
>
>
> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15179-15179-64195-12126-64404-
> 3330619.html
>
> Dave
>
> On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
>
> >> What I actually plan to do is get a copy
> machine/scanner combination
> >> with a sheet feeder that can email scanned
> documents.
> >
> > Then get one that automatically does OCR! Xerox has
> solutions that do
> > this.
> > All you have to do is put the paper in.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber
> vendor-authorized
> > instruction at our training centers in Washington
> DC, Atlanta,
> > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at
> your location.
> > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more
> information!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread E C list
Thank you again everyone who has been helping me.  I
wasn't aware of this
machine, and it is very interesting.  That may be a
potential solution.  

The barcode idea is one that I have considered but it
isn't very practical
for us.  The reason I say that is that we have
hundreds of customers and new
ones are added daily.  Usually you'd only have one or
two documents that
need to scanned, so it would not be practical if
someone had to stop and
make barcodes and then stick them on a document (we
don't generate all of
the documents here so we can't just put barcodes on
the documents when they
are created--some of the documents in question would
be invoices from
suppliers for materials and things like that...).

My other possible solution besides using Barcodes or
OCR is to get a
copier/scanner machine that  will send emails as
described before.  But what
I picture is that the machine would already know the
domain where the email
is going to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) so the sales guy would
walk up to the machine
and type in the unique 5 digit id for the customer as
the email address.
Then press send. (The copy machines I have seen don't
have good ways of
typing in much beyond just numbers, so if they had to
type in the domain
name too for the email address, that would be a deal
breaker--nobody would
do it.)  I'd have to find the right copy machine to do
that.  I think the
Sharp AR-M277 would possibly do that, but I have to
put my hands on one to
see.  I would set up the email server with a catch-all
email address that
would accept [EMAIL PROTECTED] when
[EMAIL PROTECTED] comes in,
coldFusion would POP it and then use the name as the
ID number and VOILA.

Any more comments or ideas appreciated.  

-Original Message-
From: David Livingston
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OCR Solutions

I don't know what your budget is but we have used
these in several document
management solutions and they seem to be pretty idiot
proof.  
Plus you can collect data and do ocr.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15179-15179-64195-12126-64404-
3330619.html

Dave

On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Dave Watts wrote:

>> What I actually plan to do is get a copy
machine/scanner combination 
>> with a sheet feeder that can email scanned
documents.
>
> Then get one that automatically does OCR! Xerox has
solutions that do 
> this.
> All you have to do is put the paper in.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber
vendor-authorized 
> instruction at our training centers in Washington
DC, Atlanta, 
> Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at
your location.
> Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more
information!
>
>
> 



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Re: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread David Livingston
I don't know what your budget is but we have used these in several  
document management solutions and they seem to be pretty idiot proof.  
Plus you can collect data and do ocr.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15179-15179-64195-12126-64404-3330619.html

Dave

On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Dave Watts wrote:

>> What I actually plan to do is get a copy
>> machine/scanner combination with a sheet
>> feeder that can email scanned documents.
>
> Then get one that automatically does OCR! Xerox has solutions that  
> do this.
> All you have to do is put the paper in.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
> Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
>
>
> 

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Re: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread Jim Rising
one quick note here... if you're using fax... efaxdeveloper.com has the
whole package... they will generate the datamatrix barcode via a servlet for
you, and they will check incoming fax for a barcode. the api passes you an
xml packet via http post (there are other methods available) that contains
the information found in the barcode along with the fax document in base64.
that's what i'm currently using for the project i've been working on, but
because of the costs associated with efax, we'll soon be moving to another
fax provider... and will start using something more along the lines of the
java4less stuff to handle the barcode creation and reading.

-jim


On 12/5/07, Ryan Stille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else been having problems with the list missing emails, or
> coming through 8+ hours after it was originally posted?  I don't have
> the original message for this thread.  The web archive shows it was
> posted around lunch today.
>
> Anyway, I am going to need to implement something like this soon.  Our
> images will come in via email, then I need to OCR a customer ID out of
> it and import appropriately.
>
> I was looking at JavaOCR (http://javaocr.com) and Asprise OCR, also
> written in Java.  So they should easily integrate with ColdFusion.
> Neither are free.
>
> There are also several (free) open source OCR packages:
>
> GOCR http://jocr.sourceforge.net/
> Ocrad http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html
> Tesseract
> _http://google-
> code-updates.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-tesseract-ocr.html_
>
> But I have not looked into any of them yet.  But the barcode stuff Jim
> Rising mentioned (glad I checked the archive, as I don't have that email
> either...) looks very interesting, and it looks like its a lot cheaper
> than OCR.  My images are actually coming in via fax, so OCR'ing that
> quality of an image may be a challenge.  I think the barcode may perform
> better.
>
> -Ryan
>
> Dave Watts wrote:
> >> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be made to
> >> work with ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents
> >> scanned and emailed to a coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to
> >> find a person's name or account number.  The number will be
> >> used to match the document to a database record so the
> >> document can be attached to their account.
> >>
> >
> > Since lots of scanners come with OCR solutions, why not do it there?
> Adobe
> > Acrobat does this quite well, in my opinion.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: OCR Solutions

2007-12-06 Thread Jim Rising
i still don't see the point in doing this with OCR. it just seems like
overkill, and more trouble than what it's worth. if all you're needing is an
account number to associate the documents with, generate a datamatrix
barcode containing the account number, and when the salesperson is scanning
in the documents, just make sure that the sheet containing the barcode is
the coversheet, or is on the account info sheet. scan them all in as a
single tif or pdf (probably better just to fax and use some fax on demand
solution to generate the pdf / tif file) ... and have the java4less 'vision'
barcode reader run as a CF scheduled task every 5 minutes or so looking for
files to consume and attach to accounts. (or setup a gateway as a directory
watcher?) just be sure to have a manual process built in for pending files
that did not get recognized for whatever reason so that you can put some
eyes on them.

-jim


On 12/5/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What I actually plan to do is get a copy
> > machine/scanner combination with a sheet
> > feeder that can email scanned documents.
>
> Then get one that automatically does OCR! Xerox has solutions that do
> this.
> All you have to do is put the paper in.
>
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RE: OCR Solutions

2007-12-05 Thread Dave Watts
> What I actually plan to do is get a copy 
> machine/scanner combination with a sheet 
> feeder that can email scanned documents.

Then get one that automatically does OCR! Xerox has solutions that do this.
All you have to do is put the paper in.

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Re: OCR Solutions

2007-12-05 Thread Ryan Stille
Has anyone else been having problems with the list missing emails, or 
coming through 8+ hours after it was originally posted?  I don't have 
the original message for this thread.  The web archive shows it was 
posted around lunch today.

Anyway, I am going to need to implement something like this soon.  Our 
images will come in via email, then I need to OCR a customer ID out of 
it and import appropriately.

I was looking at JavaOCR (http://javaocr.com) and Asprise OCR, also 
written in Java.  So they should easily integrate with ColdFusion.  
Neither are free.

There are also several (free) open source OCR packages:

GOCR http://jocr.sourceforge.net/
Ocrad http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html
Tesseract 
_http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-tesseract-ocr.html_
 
But I have not looked into any of them yet.  But the barcode stuff Jim 
Rising mentioned (glad I checked the archive, as I don't have that email 
either...) looks very interesting, and it looks like its a lot cheaper 
than OCR.  My images are actually coming in via fax, so OCR'ing that 
quality of an image may be a challenge.  I think the barcode may perform 
better.

-Ryan

Dave Watts wrote:
>> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be made to 
>> work with ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents 
>> scanned and emailed to a coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to 
>> find a person's name or account number.  The number will be 
>> used to match the document to a database record so the 
>> document can be attached to their account.
>> 
>
> Since lots of scanners come with OCR solutions, why not do it there? Adobe
> Acrobat does this quite well, in my opinion.
>
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RE: OCR Solutions

2007-12-05 Thread E C list
Well, I don't think that is going to work for me. 
What I actually plan to
do is get a copy machine/scanner combination with a
sheet feeder that can
email scanned documents.  A salesman will come in with
a contract or a
project manager with an invoice for purchased
materials and stick it in the
sheet feeder and press go.  The scan will then be sent
directly to the
server.  The server will somehow read the document,
find a person's name or
account number and then attach it to their record in
the database.

The thing is, that if it gets too complicated for the
sales guy, they aren't
going to do it.  That's why we want to use a copy
machine...

Thanks again.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OCR Solutions

> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be
made to work with 
> ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents
scanned and emailed 
> to a coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to find a
person's name or 
> account number.  The number will be used to match
the document to a 
> database record so the document can be attached to
their account.

Since lots of scanners come with OCR solutions, why
not do it there? Adobe
Acrobat does this quite well, in my opinion.

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RE: OCR Solutions

2007-12-05 Thread Dave Watts
> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be made to 
> work with ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents 
> scanned and emailed to a coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to 
> find a person's name or account number.  The number will be 
> used to match the document to a database record so the 
> document can be attached to their account.

Since lots of scanners come with OCR solutions, why not do it there? Adobe
Acrobat does this quite well, in my opinion.

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Re: OCR Solutions

2007-12-05 Thread Jim Rising
you should use a barcode ... particularly a datamatrix barcode, which is
much more robust than most. i've done this using efaxdeveloper.com (which
comes with this feature), but have been looking into using this to produce
the barcodes:

http://www.java4less.com/barcodes/barcodes.php

and this to read them:
http://www.java4less.com/vision/vision.php?info=intro

-jim




On 12/5/07, Eron Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Does anyone know of any ocr solutions that can be made to work with
> ColdFusion?  What I'd like to do is have documents scanned and emailed to a
> coldFusion server and then OCR'ed to find a person's name or account
> number.  The number will be used to match the document to a database record
> so the document can be attached to their account.
>
> Thank you for any ideas
>
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