Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[Russ Michaels]

cool, it was about time.
I haven't really bothered with CF since  CF9 since I use Railo for
everything now.

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Byron Mann  wrote:

>
> This was a new feature implemented in CF10.  There were a ton of
> improvements to scheduling for that release.
>
>
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d31851899e53a51353e870493-8000.html
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > is this a new feature in CF10/11 to install the tasks in DB ?
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Byron Mann 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I've seen this before when the CF service suddenly terminates. Could be
> > the
> > > service terminated during an update to the xml file rendering it
> empty. A
> > > subsequent restart of CF may have created a backup of the xml file
> before
> > > stopping, rendering the bak file empty as well.
> > >
> > > We moved to clustered configuration for scheduled tasks which keeps all
> > the
> > > tasks in a database instead of a file. This has been really nice, since
> > we
> > > have 12 instance running for all our internals.
> > >
> > > I think the only issue we have seen is the next run time not being
> > updated
> > > appropriately. I believe this has only happened once or twice in a few
> > > years.
> > >
> > > ~Byron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, John M Bliss 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Only by restoring from backup. No clue as to root-cause / preventing
> it
> > > > from happening again.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Sebastian Powell 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >[crickets]  :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > > >
> > > > > I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the
> > > > > scedheuled task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to
> > > > resolve
> > > > > this?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[Byron Mann]

This was a new feature implemented in CF10.  There were a ton of
improvements to scheduling for that release.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d31851899e53a51353e870493-8000.html

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> is this a new feature in CF10/11 to install the tasks in DB ?
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Byron Mann  wrote:
>
> >
> > I've seen this before when the CF service suddenly terminates. Could be
> the
> > service terminated during an update to the xml file rendering it empty. A
> > subsequent restart of CF may have created a backup of the xml file before
> > stopping, rendering the bak file empty as well.
> >
> > We moved to clustered configuration for scheduled tasks which keeps all
> the
> > tasks in a database instead of a file. This has been really nice, since
> we
> > have 12 instance running for all our internals.
> >
> > I think the only issue we have seen is the next run time not being
> updated
> > appropriately. I believe this has only happened once or twice in a few
> > years.
> >
> > ~Byron
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, John M Bliss 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Only by restoring from backup. No clue as to root-cause / preventing it
> > > from happening again.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Sebastian Powell 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >[crickets]  :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > >
> > > > I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the
> > > > scedheuled task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to
> > > resolve
> > > > this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[Russ Michaels]

is this a new feature in CF10/11 to install the tasks in DB ?

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Byron Mann  wrote:

>
> I've seen this before when the CF service suddenly terminates. Could be the
> service terminated during an update to the xml file rendering it empty. A
> subsequent restart of CF may have created a backup of the xml file before
> stopping, rendering the bak file empty as well.
>
> We moved to clustered configuration for scheduled tasks which keeps all the
> tasks in a database instead of a file. This has been really nice, since we
> have 12 instance running for all our internals.
>
> I think the only issue we have seen is the next run time not being updated
> appropriately. I believe this has only happened once or twice in a few
> years.
>
> ~Byron
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Only by restoring from backup. No clue as to root-cause / preventing it
> > from happening again.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Sebastian Powell 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >[crickets]  :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > >
> > > I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the
> > > scedheuled task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to
> > resolve
> > > this?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[Byron Mann]

I've seen this before when the CF service suddenly terminates. Could be the
service terminated during an update to the xml file rendering it empty. A
subsequent restart of CF may have created a backup of the xml file before
stopping, rendering the bak file empty as well.

We moved to clustered configuration for scheduled tasks which keeps all the
tasks in a database instead of a file. This has been really nice, since we
have 12 instance running for all our internals.

I think the only issue we have seen is the next run time not being updated
appropriately. I believe this has only happened once or twice in a few
years.

~Byron



On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Only by restoring from backup. No clue as to root-cause / preventing it
> from happening again.
>
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Sebastian Powell  wrote:
>
> >
> > >[crickets]  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> >
> > I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the
> > scedheuled task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to
> resolve
> > this?
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[John M Bliss]

Only by restoring from backup. No clue as to root-cause / preventing it
from happening again.

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Sebastian Powell  wrote:

>
> >[crickets]  :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
>
> I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the
> scedheuled task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to resolve
> this?
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[Russ Michaels]

if you just restore that file from your backups, then everything should be
good again :-)

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Sebastian Powell  wrote:

>
> >[crickets]  :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
>
> I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the
> scedheuled task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to resolve
> this?
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

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On 14-11-09 03:37 PM, Sebastian Powell wrote:
>> [crickets]  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the scedheuled 
> task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to resolve this?
>
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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[Sebastian Powell]

>[crickets]  :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I am experiencing the same issue on CF 11,  neo-cron.xml all the scedheuled 
task vanished. and its an empty file.  Did you manage to resolve this? 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[John M Bliss]

[crickets]  :-)


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

> Appears that my neo-cron.xml disappeared and neo-cron.bak is of size zero.
> Trying to restore from backup. Any idea how this could have happened?
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
>> ACF 10,0,12,286680
>>
>> This AM, when I login to the admin and click Scheduled Tasks, I get the
>> following error. Ideas?
>>
>> The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
>> indicates a programming error, either in your code or some system code.
>> Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.
>>
>> The error occurred in scheduletasks.cfm: line 188
>> -1 : Unable to display error's location in a CFML template.
>> Resources:
>> Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the
>> correct syntax.
>> Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.
>> Browser   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like
>> Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.143 Safari/537.36
>> Remote Address   192.168.200.125
>>
>> Date/Time   23-Aug-14 08:44 AM
>> Stack Trace
>> at
>> cfscheduletasks2ecfm672758571._factor31(E:/cf10_final/cfusion/wwwroot/CFIDE/administrator/scheduler/scheduletasks.cfm:188)
>> at
>> cfscheduletasks2ecfm672758571.runPage(E:/cf10_final/cfusion/wwwroot/CFIDE/administrator/scheduler/scheduletasks.cfm:1)
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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Re: Scheduled Tasks Error

[John M Bliss]

Appears that my neo-cron.xml disappeared and neo-cron.bak is of size zero.
Trying to restore from backup. Any idea how this could have happened?


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

> ACF 10,0,12,286680
>
> This AM, when I login to the admin and click Scheduled Tasks, I get the
> following error. Ideas?
>
> The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
> indicates a programming error, either in your code or some system code.
> Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.
>
> The error occurred in scheduletasks.cfm: line 188
> -1 : Unable to display error's location in a CFML template.
> Resources:
> Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the
> correct syntax.
> Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.
> Browser   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like
> Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.143 Safari/537.36
> Remote Address   192.168.200.125
>
> Date/Time   23-Aug-14 08:44 AM
> Stack Trace
> at
> cfscheduletasks2ecfm672758571._factor31(E:/cf10_final/cfusion/wwwroot/CFIDE/administrator/scheduler/scheduletasks.cfm:188)
> at
> cfscheduletasks2ecfm672758571.runPage(E:/cf10_final/cfusion/wwwroot/CFIDE/administrator/scheduler/scheduletasks.cfm:1)
>
> --
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>



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Scheduled Tasks Error

[John M Bliss]

ACF 10,0,12,286680

This AM, when I login to the admin and click Scheduled Tasks, I get the
following error. Ideas?

The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates
a programming error, either in your code or some system code.
Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.

The error occurred in scheduletasks.cfm: line 188
-1 : Unable to display error's location in a CFML template.
Resources:
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct
syntax.
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.
Browser   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like
Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.143 Safari/537.36
Remote Address   192.168.200.125

Date/Time   23-Aug-14 08:44 AM
Stack Trace
at
cfscheduletasks2ecfm672758571._factor31(E:/cf10_final/cfusion/wwwroot/CFIDE/administrator/scheduler/scheduletasks.cfm:188)
at
cfscheduletasks2ecfm672758571.runPage(E:/cf10_final/cfusion/wwwroot/CFIDE/administrator/scheduler/scheduletasks.cfm:1)

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Not Attempted

[Byron Mann]

Do you have logging your scheduled tasks enabled?  Might shed some light.

Does a CF restart fix the issue?

Are these setup as clustered?  If so I would check server time-stamps
between CF and DB servers to ensure they are correct. Not sure if this
would really matter, as I would think CF would just use the DB server
timestamp as authoritative in a clustered setup, but probably worth
checking.

I would recommend removing the task and rescheduling them. I've had to do
this before where a task would not run for whatever reason.


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Scheduled Tasks Not Attempted

[John M Bliss]

Here's a strange one: ACF 10,0,12,286680 Scheduled Tasks not attempted. I
have numerous Scheduled Tasks that run daily in the early AM hours. This
AM, it appears that none of them ran. No errors. The Scheduled Task page in
the Admin shows two types:

Duration Interval Last Run Next Run
Sep 17, 2009 - INDEFINITELYDaily  8/19/2014 5:00:00 AM  8/21/2014
5:00:00 AM
Feb 18, 2009 - INDEFINITELYDaily  8/19/2014 2:31:00 AM  EXPIRED

...where that first one seems to illustrate skipping today and that second
one illustrates skipping today and never running again? Despite the fact
that it's set to "INDEFINITELY."

Any ideas on where to start?

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Not Running

[Byron Mann]

I'd also add as a side note, that while you don't have to, you should
always use SSL, when using the basic authentication.

Byron Mann
Lead Engineer & Architect
HostMySite.com

>
> While Ian's post is still applicable and on point, scheduled task URLs
> do not have to be anonymously accessible. They just have to use Basic
> Authentication instead of Integrated Windows Authentication (Kerberos,
> NTLM).
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Re: Scheduled Tasks Not Running

[Dave Watts]

> This post is ancient, but still applicable (CF8).  It's kind of messed up how 
> scheduled tasks have to be accessible
> anonymously.

While Ian's post is still applicable and on point, scheduled task URLs
do not have to be anonymously accessible. They just have to use Basic
Authentication instead of Integrated Windows Authentication (Kerberos,
NTLM).

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Not Running

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> You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the 
> credentials that you supplied because your web browser is sending a 
> www=authenticate header field that the web server is not configured to 
> accept.
> 
> Have you tried changing the security on the file the scheduled task 
> needs to run to "basic" instead of "integrated windows"?  Remember 
> that you can specific the security of resources down to the file in 
> the IIS manager.
> 
> The "browser" that cold fusion used to access pages for the scheduled 
> task and CFHTTP function does not have the capability to connect to 
> resources with the Microsoft proprietary "integrated windows" security 
> model.  It can only use the "basic" model.
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This post is ancient, but still applicable (CF8).  It's kind of messed up how 
scheduled tasks have to be accessible anonymously.

Thanks for this post! 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Running Twice

[Akos Fortagh]

we had this when tech support told us that our old server was shut down, then 
we found it wasn't and it was still executing the scheduled tasks.
What does the scheduler log tell you?

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Running Twice

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the first thing I always check is my staging/dev servers and local 
environments. see if one of these other environments has these tasks scheduled. 

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> On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Robert Harrison  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK. Some research indicates this is a common problem, but the answers found 
> so far are not definitive.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Robert Harrison 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:13 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Scheduled Tasks Running Twice
> 
> 
> All of the sudden all of the scheduled CF tasks are running twice in a row, 
> one minute apart.  We can find no sign of duplicate tasks in the scheduler.  
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Running Twice

[Russ Michaels]

are you sure both are coming from the same server ?
most of the time when I have had customers say this to it, I have found one
of their developers has the task running on his local machine as well.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Robert Harrison
wrote:

>
> OK. Some research indicates this is a common problem, but the answers
> found so far are not definitive.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
> Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
> 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
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> http://www.austin-williams.com
>
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:13 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Scheduled Tasks Running Twice
>
>
> All of the sudden all of the scheduled CF tasks are running twice in a
> row, one minute apart.  We can find no sign of duplicate tasks in the
> scheduler.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Scheduled Tasks Running Twice

[Robert Harrison]

OK. Some research indicates this is a common problem, but the answers found so 
far are not definitive.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks

Robert Harrison 
Director of Interactive Services

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-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:13 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Scheduled Tasks Running Twice


All of the sudden all of the scheduled CF tasks are running twice in a row, one 
minute apart.  We can find no sign of duplicate tasks in the scheduler.  

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Robert




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Scheduled Tasks Running Twice

[Robert Harrison]

All of the sudden all of the scheduled CF tasks are running twice in a row, one 
minute apart.  We can find no sign of duplicate tasks in the scheduler.  

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Robert


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Re: CF9 vs CF10 scheduled tasks

[Gonzo Rock]

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:12 PM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>Is it possible to run scheduled tasks in CF10 Standard Edition?
>
> It sure is.
> However, there is now a restriction on the extension for the log file. It
> can only be .txt or .log, for so called secirity reason (?).
>

Good to know... They were not thrilled about an Enterprise version. We will
install next weekend then I expect. Thanks to all. This list serve is
amazing!


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Re: CF9 vs CF10 scheduled tasks

[Dave Watts]

> However, there is now a restriction on the extension for the log file. It can 
> only be .txt or .log, for so called secirity reason (?).

This is also true in CF 9.0.2 and may be true in the latest CHF for 9.0.1.

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Re: CF9 vs CF10 scheduled tasks

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>considering all the
(well documented) problems it caused previously.

Yes, I remember now.



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Re: CF9 vs CF10 scheduled tasks

[Russ Michaels]

i'm surprised you question why this is a security issue considering all the
(well documented) problems it caused previously.
scheduled task calls an external malware script, contents are saved in a
web accessible path as .cfm file, cfm file is executed giving file system
access.,


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>Is it possible to run scheduled tasks in CF10 Standard Edition?
>
> It sure is.
> However, there is now a restriction on the extension for the log file. It
> can only be .txt or .log, for so called secirity reason (?).
>
>
> 

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Re: CF9 vs CF10 scheduled tasks

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>Is it possible to run scheduled tasks in CF10 Standard Edition?

It sure is.
However, there is now a restriction on the extension for the log file. It can 
only be .txt or .log, for so called secirity reason (?).


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CF9 vs CF10 scheduled tasks

[Gonzo Rock]

We have pushed all our Manufacturing application installs since 2012 onto
CF9 when we ran into what I recall was a scheduled tasks being moved into
the Enterprise edition only issue. We couldn't set them up... somehow it
was denied.

It was simple for us to not worry about it and advise all new locations to
run with CF9. Now we are getting a Japanese install that is pushing for
CF10 and I wanted to quickly touch base with this group first.

Is it possible to run scheduled tasks in CF10 Standard Edition? Is this
something that was finally allowed back into the Standard Edition or do I
have it all wrong?

Thanks!


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Re: too many scheduled tasks in the CF-backend

[Bill Moniz]

Yep.  With a combination of cfschedule and a Java serviceFactory.  You can
retrieve a list of all scheduled tasks using the Java object then loop over
it to delete based on whatever condition you like.  You get back an array
of structs where the name of each task is contained in the key "Task".  I'm
basing this mostly on this link:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2320396/how-to-get-list-of-scheduled-tasks-and-last-run-results-in-coldfusion

This example would delete everything:








On 23 December 2013 09:49, Uwe Degenhardt  wrote:

>
> Hi list !
> I have a strange
> problem. A customer of mine has
> programmed a cf-page with cfschedule years ago.
> And now I have seen, that there are thousands
> of test-entries in the scheduler.
> I want to clear now programmatically
> the neo-cron.xml, since I don't want
> to delete approximately 3000-4000 scheduled
> tasks manually in the CF backend. :-(
> Any ideas how to do this ?
>
> We run CF 8 on Windows.
>
> Uwe
>
> P.S.:  This  message  is  a  resend of my message from 12/17/2013 that
> obviously never got posted.
>
>
>
> 

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too many scheduled tasks in the CF-backend

[Uwe Degenhardt]

Hi list !
I have a strange
problem. A customer of mine has
programmed a cf-page with cfschedule years ago.
And now I have seen, that there are thousands
of test-entries in the scheduler.
I want to clear now programmatically
the neo-cron.xml, since I don't want
to delete approximately 3000-4000 scheduled
tasks manually in the CF backend. :-(
Any ideas how to do this ?

We run CF 8 on Windows.

Uwe

P.S.:  This  message  is  a  resend of my message from 12/17/2013 that
obviously never got posted.



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Re: Scheduled Tasks Oddity

[John M Bliss]

> Do you have any browser-sniffing code that's been added recently, such as
something for a mobile site?

No.

> Are the task names capitalised? I assume they are not, and probably mixed
case. Re-creating tasks with mixed cases tends to cause them to stop
working. The only fix I have found is to make sure to always use capital
names in CF10.

Some are all-caps and some are mixed-case. All were failing to run.

> don;t know how often you are running it, but maybe this might help
http://blog.dkferguson.com/index.cfm/2012/12/6/ColdFusion-10-Scheduled-tasks-and-misfires

Interesting. I'll have a look at that...


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Re: Scheduled Tasks Oddity

[Russ Michaels]

don;t know how often you are running it, but maybe this might help

http://blog.dkferguson.com/index.cfm/2012/12/6/ColdFusion-10-Scheduled-tasks-and-misfires


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Running ACF 10,0,12,286680
>
> Pull up CF Admin > Server Settings > Scheduled Tasks
>
> Click Run Scheduled Task button next to task that's known to work properly.
> Page refreshes quickly and CF tells me that it ran the task...but task did
> not actually run and I don't see any errors caught anywhere.
>
> Remote into server, paste task's URL into browser, press "Enter," and task
> runs fine.
>
> Anyone seen this behavior? Cause? Fix?
>
> --
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>
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Oddity

[Jon Clausen]

Initial thought:

Do you have any browser-sniffing code that's been added recently, such as 
something for a mobile site?


> On Dec 13, 2013, at 3:02 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:
> 
> 
> Another clue? Tasks in this state have a "Resume Scheduled Task" button
> instead of a "Pause Scheduled Task" button.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:
>> 
>> Running ACF 10,0,12,286680
>> 
>> Pull up CF Admin > Server Settings > Scheduled Tasks
>> 
>> Click Run Scheduled Task button next to task that's known to work
>> properly. Page refreshes quickly and CF tells me that it ran the task...but
>> task did not actually run and I don't see any errors caught anywhere.
>> 
>> Remote into server, paste task's URL into browser, press "Enter," and task
>> runs fine.
>> 
>> Anyone seen this behavior? Cause? Fix?
>> 
>> --
>> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Oddity

[Ricardo Russon]

Are the task names capitalised? I assume they are not, and probably mixed
case.

Re-creating tasks with mixed cases tends to cause them to stop working.

The only fix I have found is to make sure to always use capital names in
CF10.



On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 6:06 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Cycling the CF Server service appears to have fixed the issue. W. T. F.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:02 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> > Another clue? Tasks in this state have a "Resume Scheduled Task" button
> > instead of a "Pause Scheduled Task" button.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, John M Bliss  >wrote:
> >
> >> Running ACF 10,0,12,286680
> >>
> >> Pull up CF Admin > Server Settings > Scheduled Tasks
> >>
> >> Click Run Scheduled Task button next to task that's known to work
> >> properly. Page refreshes quickly and CF tells me that it ran the
> task...but
> >> task did not actually run and I don't see any errors caught anywhere.
> >>
> >> Remote into server, paste task's URL into browser, press "Enter," and
> >> task runs fine.
> >>
> >> Anyone seen this behavior? Cause? Fix?
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> >
>
>
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>
>
> 

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Re: Scheduled Tasks Oddity

[John M Bliss]

Cycling the CF Server service appears to have fixed the issue. W. T. F.


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:02 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

> Another clue? Tasks in this state have a "Resume Scheduled Task" button
> instead of a "Pause Scheduled Task" button.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, John M Bliss wrote:
>
>> Running ACF 10,0,12,286680
>>
>> Pull up CF Admin > Server Settings > Scheduled Tasks
>>
>> Click Run Scheduled Task button next to task that's known to work
>> properly. Page refreshes quickly and CF tells me that it ran the task...but
>> task did not actually run and I don't see any errors caught anywhere.
>>
>> Remote into server, paste task's URL into browser, press "Enter," and
>> task runs fine.
>>
>> Anyone seen this behavior? Cause? Fix?
>>
>> --
>> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>>
>
>
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>



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Re: Scheduled Tasks Oddity

[John M Bliss]

Another clue? Tasks in this state have a "Resume Scheduled Task" button
instead of a "Pause Scheduled Task" button.


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

> Running ACF 10,0,12,286680
>
> Pull up CF Admin > Server Settings > Scheduled Tasks
>
> Click Run Scheduled Task button next to task that's known to work
> properly. Page refreshes quickly and CF tells me that it ran the task...but
> task did not actually run and I don't see any errors caught anywhere.
>
> Remote into server, paste task's URL into browser, press "Enter," and task
> runs fine.
>
> Anyone seen this behavior? Cause? Fix?
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>



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Scheduled Tasks Oddity

[John M Bliss]

Running ACF 10,0,12,286680

Pull up CF Admin > Server Settings > Scheduled Tasks

Click Run Scheduled Task button next to task that's known to work properly.
Page refreshes quickly and CF tells me that it ran the task...but task did
not actually run and I don't see any errors caught anywhere.

Remote into server, paste task's URL into browser, press "Enter," and task
runs fine.

Anyone seen this behavior? Cause? Fix?

-- 
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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[Russ Michaels]

I sispect it means Whether it is a repeating task, i.e occurs more than
once.

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On Apr 9, 2013 7:07 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:

>
> The only strange column is the "Repeat" column which, for all tasks, reads,
> "-1"
>
> Any idea what that's referring to?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:
>
> > > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> >
> > At first glance, this appears to have worked.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> ColdFusion Archive. Sorry - thought everyone knew it. It is Enterprise
> >> only, but it takes all your settings and creates a file-based back up
> that
> >> can be imported. As I said, Enterprise only, but it is literally so damn
> >> useful I'd recommend removing your serial #, running the CAR (takes
> maybe
> >> 2
> >> minutes), re-adding your serial. Done.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM, John M Bliss 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sorry...CAR feature?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Raymond Camden <
> >> raymondcam...@gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Just use the CAR feature.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John M Bliss  >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Anyone know whether it is?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels <
> r...@michaels.me.uk
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over
> >> the
> >> > > > > neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards
> >> > > > > Russ Michaels
> >> > > > > www.michaels.me.uk
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> >> > > > > On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss" 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever
> >> > reason,
> >> > > my
> >> > > > > > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is
> >> still
> >> > > > > present
> >> > > > > > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> >> > > > > > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[John M Bliss]

The only strange column is the "Repeat" column which, for all tasks, reads,
"-1"

Any idea what that's referring to?


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

> > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
>
> At first glance, this appears to have worked.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> ColdFusion Archive. Sorry - thought everyone knew it. It is Enterprise
>> only, but it takes all your settings and creates a file-based back up that
>> can be imported. As I said, Enterprise only, but it is literally so damn
>> useful I'd recommend removing your serial #, running the CAR (takes maybe
>> 2
>> minutes), re-adding your serial. Done.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM, John M Bliss 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Sorry...CAR feature?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Raymond Camden <
>> raymondcam...@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Just use the CAR feature.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John M Bliss 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyone know whether it is?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over
>> the
>> > > > > neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards
>> > > > > Russ Michaels
>> > > > > www.michaels.me.uk
>> > > > > www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
>> > > > > www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
>> > > > > On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss" 
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever
>> > reason,
>> > > my
>> > > > > > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is
>> still
>> > > > > present
>> > > > > > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
>> > > > > > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[John M Bliss]

> copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10

At first glance, this appears to have worked.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:

>
> ColdFusion Archive. Sorry - thought everyone knew it. It is Enterprise
> only, but it takes all your settings and creates a file-based back up that
> can be imported. As I said, Enterprise only, but it is literally so damn
> useful I'd recommend removing your serial #, running the CAR (takes maybe 2
> minutes), re-adding your serial. Done.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sorry...CAR feature?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Raymond Camden  > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Just use the CAR feature.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John M Bliss 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know whether it is?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over the
> > > > > neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Russ Michaels
> > > > > www.michaels.me.uk
> > > > > www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> > > > > www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> > > > > On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss" 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever
> > reason,
> > > my
> > > > > > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is
> still
> > > > > present
> > > > > > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> > > > > > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[Raymond Camden]

ColdFusion Archive. Sorry - thought everyone knew it. It is Enterprise
only, but it takes all your settings and creates a file-based back up that
can be imported. As I said, Enterprise only, but it is literally so damn
useful I'd recommend removing your serial #, running the CAR (takes maybe 2
minutes), re-adding your serial. Done.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> Sorry...CAR feature?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Just use the CAR feature.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John M Bliss 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> > >
> > > Anyone know whether it is?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over the
> > > > neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Russ Michaels
> > > > www.michaels.me.uk
> > > > www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> > > > www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> > > > On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever
> reason,
> > my
> > > > > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is still
> > > > present
> > > > > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> > > > > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[John M Bliss]

Sorry...CAR feature?


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:

>
> Just use the CAR feature.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> >
> > Anyone know whether it is?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over the
> > > neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Russ Michaels
> > > www.michaels.me.uk
> > > www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> > > www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> > > On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever reason,
> my
> > > > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is still
> > > present
> > > > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> > > > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[Russ Michaels]

Its in the bin or lib  folder

Regards
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On Apr 9, 2013 6:08 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:

>
> > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
>
> Anyone know whether it is?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over the
> > neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> >
> > Regards
> > Russ Michaels
> > www.michaels.me.uk
> > www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> > www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> > On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever reason, my
> > > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is still
> > present
> > > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> > > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[Raymond Camden]

Just use the CAR feature.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> > copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
>
> Anyone know whether it is?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over the
> > neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
> >
> > Regards
> > Russ Michaels
> > www.michaels.me.uk
> > www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> > www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> > On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever reason, my
> > > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is still
> > present
> > > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> > > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[John M Bliss]

> copy over the neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10

Anyone know whether it is?


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over the
> neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10
>
> Regards
> Russ Michaels
> www.michaels.me.uk
> www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever reason, my
> > scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is still
> present
> > on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> > post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
> >
> > --
> > John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[Russ Michaels]

You could export them using the ColdFusion archive or copy over the
neo-cron.xml if it is compatible with cf10

Regards
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On Apr 9, 2013 6:02 PM, "John M Bliss"  wrote:

>
> Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever reason, my
> scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is still present
> on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
> post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
>
>
> 

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Copy Scheduled Tasks To ACF10

[John M Bliss]

Hi. I recently upgraded from ACF8 to ACF10 and, for whatever reason, my
scheduled tasks did not end up in ACF10. The ACF8 install is still present
on the server. Is there a way to copy the scheduled tasks over
post-upgrade? Or will I need to re-add them all manually?

-- 
John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss


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Re: Running Scheduled Tasks

[Dave Watts]

> We have a new server that I am trying to run scheduled tasks on.  Problem is, 
> the server does not have internet access out and it is an SSL site. > So I 
> cannot browse by IP because I get the SSL error that the host names do not 
> match.  I am able to add the IP/URL to the hosts file and browse
> to the site address in a browser, but CF still does not like that.  Any 
> suggestions how I can run my scheduled tasks?

You will probably have to add the certificate to CF's Java keystore
(Google "cf java keystore" for more info)

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Running Scheduled Tasks

[Chad Baloga]

We have a new server that I am trying to run scheduled tasks on.  Problem is, 
the server does not have internet access out and it is an SSL site.  So I 
cannot browse by IP because I get the SSL error that the host names do not 
match.  I am able to add the IP/URL to the hosts file and browse to the site 
address in a browser, but CF still does not like that.  Any suggestions how I 
can run my scheduled tasks?  

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Scheduled Tasks Running Multiple Threads

[Dave Sueltenfuss]

On CF 9.0.1, has anyone run into the issue of the CF server spawning
multiple threads for the same scheduled task?
To date, we have been unable to find a cause, or even a reason for this
happening. The only solutions we have found to resolve it is to either
restart the CF service or pause/edit the task.

This is an example of what we are seeing in the log when this is happening:

"Information","scheduler-5","11/09/11","11:32:00",,"[login.runCommands&queuenumber=1]
Executing at Wed Nov 09 11:32:00 EST 2011"
"Information","scheduler-0","11/09/11","11:32:00",,"[login.runCommands&queuenumber=1]
Executing at Wed Nov 09 11:32:00 EST 2011"

Any insight is appreciated

Thanks
-Dave


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Re: Log That Keeps Track of Scheduled Tasks

[Mike Chabot]

In addition to the built-in scheduler log in ColdFusion administrator, you
can also look at your Web server logs. Custom logging is fairly easy to add
as well.
If you were expecting emails that you didn't get, be sure to check the
undelivered mail folder in the ColdFusion directory.

-Mike Chabot

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Asaf Peleg  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>   I'm using CF8 and I have several scheduled tasks that run.  I'm
> investigating an issue that looks like the scheduler sometimes fails to
> execute files.  I'm making this assumption b/c the application.log didn't
> record any errors and I didn't get an email from my tasks that it failed (I
> send out emails in cfcatch sections).
>
> Is there a log that CF keeps that records when it ran a task or something
> of this nature.
>
> Thanks,
> Asaf
>
> 

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Re: Log That Keeps Track of Scheduled Tasks

[Ian Skinner]

  On 12/10/2010 8:53 AM, Asaf Peleg wrote:
> Is there a log that CF keeps that records when it ran a task or something of 
> this nature.
>

You have to enable it from the ColdFusion Administrator.  But then it 
will record the execution and scheduling of all the tasks.

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Log That Keeps Track of Scheduled Tasks

[Asaf Peleg]

Hi,
   I'm using CF8 and I have several scheduled tasks that run.  I'm 
investigating an issue that looks like the scheduler sometimes fails to execute 
files.  I'm making this assumption b/c the application.log didn't record any 
errors and I didn't get an email from my tasks that it failed (I send out 
emails in cfcatch sections). 

Is there a log that CF keeps that records when it ran a task or something of 
this nature.

Thanks,
Asaf 

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RE: CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running

[Bobby Hartsfield]

I didn't say it was ideal (or even true), I just said that I believe that's
probably what is happening ;-)

Either way, you are probably in a very small group of people who actually
care. I'd just assume CF shave any processing time that scheduled task
logging might incur by not doing it.

.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Watson [mailto:skyg...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:29 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running


I'm thinking that this is maybe NOT the way things should be. In my opinion,
the "Last Run" column, as the name suggests (and what one would typically
want to see, don't you think?) should always display the date/time of the
most recent ACTUAL RUN, or execution, of the Scheduled Task, not the last
date/time that CF figured it should have been run if it hadn't been paused.
In comparison, when a Windows Scheduled Task is disabled, the date/time
shown in the "Last Run Time" column never updates from the last date/time
the task was actually executed (or from "Never", if it had never been run).

I think I'll use whatever formal communication methods are available to send
in a soft complaint about this. It's just not right.

>I think the tasks are still "polled" to see if they need to run or not.
That
>is probably what is updating the date. 



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Re: CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running

[Christopher Watson]

I'm thinking that this is maybe NOT the way things should be. In my opinion, 
the "Last Run" column, as the name suggests (and what one would typically want 
to see, don't you think?) should always display the date/time of the most 
recent ACTUAL RUN, or execution, of the Scheduled Task, not the last date/time 
that CF figured it should have been run if it hadn't been paused. In 
comparison, when a Windows Scheduled Task is disabled, the date/time shown in 
the "Last Run Time" column never updates from the last date/time the task was 
actually executed (or from "Never", if it had never been run).

I think I'll use whatever formal communication methods are available to send in 
a soft complaint about this. It's just not right.

>I think the tasks are still "polled" to see if they need to run or not. That
>is probably what is updating the date. 

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RE: CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running

[Bobby Hartsfield]

I think the tasks are still "polled" to see if they need to run or not. That
is probably what is updating the date. 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:44 PM
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Subject: CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running


I've got about 20 scheduled tasks set up in a CF9 installation, and I have
every single one of them PAUSED. Yes, the second icon from the left in the
"Actions" column of the Scheduled Tasks page in CF Admin shows as a "green
light" document, with the title (tool tip) of "Resume Scheduled Task" for
every task. These tasks are definitely PAUSED. Yet the "Last Run" is
continually updating with a new date/time at every interval specified by the
task settings. Now, I have most of these tasks set up to save output to a
file, and those files are not being created, so that leads me to believe
that these tasks are indeed NOT running, contrary to what the date/times in
the "Last Run" column is telling me. Is this a known bug? 



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RE: CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running

[DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)]

I'm not totally sure, but I do notice that when I restart my CF server,
there is an entry for the scheduled task in the log stating that it is
paused.  Could it be that that date updates every time the CF Server
tries to run (on its scheduled time) but doesn't actually run it.  Or
maybe instead of trying to run it, every time it checks the jobs to see
if they are runnable it updates.

Again, I have no idea, just some possible suggestions.

Steve


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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:44 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running


I've got about 20 scheduled tasks set up in a CF9 installation, and I
have every single one of them PAUSED. Yes, the second icon from the left
in the "Actions" column of the Scheduled Tasks page in CF Admin shows as
a "green light" document, with the title (tool tip) of "Resume Scheduled
Task" for every task. These tasks are definitely PAUSED. Yet the "Last
Run" is continually updating with a new date/time at every interval
specified by the task settings. Now, I have most of these tasks set up
to save output to a file, and those files are not being created, so that
leads me to believe that these tasks are indeed NOT running, contrary to
what the date/times in the "Last Run" column is telling me. Is this a
known bug? 

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CF9 Paused Scheduled Tasks Still Running

[Christopher Watson]

I've got about 20 scheduled tasks set up in a CF9 installation, and I have 
every single one of them PAUSED. Yes, the second icon from the left in the 
"Actions" column of the Scheduled Tasks page in CF Admin shows as a "green 
light" document, with the title (tool tip) of "Resume Scheduled Task" for every 
task. These tasks are definitely PAUSED. Yet the "Last Run" is continually 
updating with a new date/time at every interval specified by the task settings. 
Now, I have most of these tasks set up to save output to a file, and those 
files are not being created, so that leads me to believe that these tasks are 
indeed NOT running, contrary to what the date/times in the "Last Run" column is 
telling me. Is this a known bug? 

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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[denstar]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Bryan S wrote:
>
> Den
>
> The Cron Job is running the URL on a remote Linux Server. The browser
> settings on my PC would have no affect on it.

It was just a Hail Mary, as you'd said it works fine from your
browser, but both the cron job and the scheduled task do the
weirdness. :)

I was playing the "what's the same and what's different" game, and
cookies are a "usual suspect" when it works fine from a browser but
not from something automated.

The other thing I'd check would be response headers... maybe strap on
a network sniffer and take a look at the traffic.

:Den

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Den

The Cron Job is running the URL on a remote Linux Server. The browser
settings on my PC would have no affect on it.

Bryan

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Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:31 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Bryan S wrote:
>
> There is only one cfhttp call in the whole app and no cflocation calls.

Maybe it's something with cookies, is all I can think of.

What happens if you turn off cookies and whatnot in your browser, and
then hit the URL?

:Den


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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[denstar]

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Bryan S wrote:
>
> There is only one cfhttp call in the whole app and no cflocation calls.

Maybe it's something with cookies, is all I can think of.

What happens if you turn off cookies and whatnot in your browser, and
then hit the URL?

:Den

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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

I am now getting the same behavior running Event1 from a Linux Cron Job with
the Cold Fusion Scheduled Tasks turned off.

I have added new code to Event2.that prevents the undesired reports from
running.

This does not solve the mystery, however, and it could lead to other
problems so I would like to figure out the cause. Here is a summary based on
my updated knowledge of the issue. My application has extensive logging
which helps me piece this together.

This happens if I run Event1 as a Cold Fusion Scheduled Task or as a Linux
Cron Job. It DOES NOT happen if I run Event1 manually from a browser.

Minute1 - Event1 checks if it should run a report and determines it should
and fires Event2 which starts a report.
Minute2 - Event1 checks if it should run a report and determines it should
NOT and does nothing but log
Minute3 - ''
Minute4 - ''

Minute5 - 'Event1 checks if it should run a report and determines it should
NOT and does nothing but log
Minute5 - Somehow a url identical to the one fired at Minute1 which runs
Event2 fires (Now that I've put code in Event2 to stop it no report runs but
the URL does fire and I have no idea how or why)

Once the second URL fires no URLs fire until the report that started at
Minute1 is complete. Then the process starts all over again.

This happens whether I run Event1 once a minute, once every 10 minutes, or
once every 7 minutes.

If the report that started at Minute1 completes at Minute3 a report will
properly start at Minute4. In this case no URL fires at Minute5. Instead it
waits until Minute9 which is five minutes after the currently running report
started.

Thanks for your help so far. I think I've got it surrounded but I just don't
know what is causing that Phantom URL to fire.

There is only one cfhttp call in the whole app and no cflocation calls.

Bryan


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Dorioo  wrote:

>
> Not having full control is definitely going to impede your testing.
>
> Although it's plausible that you could run railo on your personal
> computer, schedule the URL that you're testing, see if it runs twice 5
> minutes later, and delete railo. You'd at least know then if CF7 is
> the problem.
>
> - Gabriel
>


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Re: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Matt Quackenbush]

CF relies on the JVM for time zone settings.


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Re: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Terry Ford]

>I usually use the following JVM arg (I'm in the central time zone):
>-Duser.timezone=America/Chicago

Hmm, thanks...  but am still a little confused.

What determines whether coldfusion/CFScheduler switches to daylight savings 
time?  
(A) the timezone settings in the OS or (B) settings in the JVM?

I have told the OS to ignore daylight savings time ("use GMT-6 all year, every 
year").  Is the JVM going to override that based on its own internal timezone 
data and say "hey, GMT-6 sounds like it's central time, so therefore it's time 
for daylight savings time", or will it respect the OS's timezone data and keep 
ColdFusion on GMT-6?

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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

Not having full control is definitely going to impede your testing.

Although it's plausible that you could run railo on your personal
computer, schedule the URL that you're testing, see if it runs twice 5
minutes later, and delete railo. You'd at least know then if CF7 is
the problem.

- Gabriel

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> I can't even get our server guys to respond with an answer if the latest
> updater is installed. Therefore, I am not optimistic about my chances of
> them installing another application for my testing purposes.
>
> One option that has been presented that I may have to explore is to have a
> then create a cron job fire the URL on the Linux server.
>
> I've tried to avoid that since it makes me more dependent on our server guys
> which compromises my development productivity.
>
> Bryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:42 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> I saw the timestamp but was wondering if your code was _only_ creating
> the files or if it was still calling the CFHTTP call _and_ creating
> the files. In other words, is it the CFHTTP call that triggers it?
>
> Regardless, if it's not your code, that 5 minute timeframe is freaky
> and could be something internal to CF.
>
> 1. The updater notes for CF7 include a fix for scheduled tasks running
> twice. Updater notes are never that detailed so this may be related to
> that. Running the updater is at least an option if not already done.
>
> 2. If you've already updated and it's still occurring, I know updating
> from CF7 is not an option but how about running an instance of Railo
> and using it as a glorified scheduled task manager?  It's free, open
> source, and newer than CF7. And you wouldn't even have to change your
> code as you'd be using it simply for your scheduled tasks.
>
> At a minimum, you could run an instance of it to test if the same
> behavior occurs through scheduled tasks created in Railo. That would
> help you determine if it's internal to CF7 and its scheduled tasks.
>
> - Gabriel
>
>
> 

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

I can't even get our server guys to respond with an answer if the latest
updater is installed. Therefore, I am not optimistic about my chances of
them installing another application for my testing purposes.

One option that has been presented that I may have to explore is to have a
then create a cron job fire the URL on the Linux server.

I've tried to avoid that since it makes me more dependent on our server guys
which compromises my development productivity.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:42 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


I saw the timestamp but was wondering if your code was _only_ creating
the files or if it was still calling the CFHTTP call _and_ creating
the files. In other words, is it the CFHTTP call that triggers it?

Regardless, if it's not your code, that 5 minute timeframe is freaky
and could be something internal to CF.

1. The updater notes for CF7 include a fix for scheduled tasks running
twice. Updater notes are never that detailed so this may be related to
that. Running the updater is at least an option if not already done.

2. If you've already updated and it's still occurring, I know updating
from CF7 is not an option but how about running an instance of Railo
and using it as a glorified scheduled task manager?  It's free, open
source, and newer than CF7. And you wouldn't even have to change your
code as you'd be using it simply for your scheduled tasks.

At a minimum, you could run an instance of it to test if the same
behavior occurs through scheduled tasks created in Railo. That would
help you determine if it's internal to CF7 and its scheduled tasks.

- Gabriel


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Steve

I did a global search of the application and cfschedule appears no where.

Bryan

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From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:26 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Bryan,

You don't by any chance have a cfschedule tag in any of your code?  Maybe
something is hitting code with a cfschedule tag to automatically recall the
page in 5 minutes.

That might explain why the second hit is always exactly 5 minutes after the
original call no matter what the time frame is.

Steve


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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

I saw the timestamp but was wondering if your code was _only_ creating
the files or if it was still calling the CFHTTP call _and_ creating
the files. In other words, is it the CFHTTP call that triggers it?

Regardless, if it's not your code, that 5 minute timeframe is freaky
and could be something internal to CF.

1. The updater notes for CF7 include a fix for scheduled tasks running
twice. Updater notes are never that detailed so this may be related to
that. Running the updater is at least an option if not already done.

2. If you've already updated and it's still occurring, I know updating
from CF7 is not an option but how about running an instance of Railo
and using it as a glorified scheduled task manager?  It's free, open
source, and newer than CF7. And you wouldn't even have to change your
code as you'd be using it simply for your scheduled tasks.

At a minimum, you could run an instance of it to test if the same
behavior occurs through scheduled tasks created in Railo. That would
help you determine if it's internal to CF7 and its scheduled tasks.

- Gabriel


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> Gabriel
>
> Yes it does write another file five minutes later. Sorry, that is why I
> included the time stamps to demonstrate that.
>
> I haven't experienced this with other scheduled tasks but none of the other
> scheduled tasks redirect to another URL either.
>
> Bryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:08 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> So it wrote the file again 5 minutes later? Do any of your other
> scheduled tasks behave like this one?
>
> - Gabriel
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>>
>> Gabriel
>>
>> configNumber is an identifier I put on the URL called by the scheduled
> task.
>> I pass it all the way through for logging purposes.
>>
>> This is the contents of the file for the report I want to run:
>> \uuidTest52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955\d100312.txt        167
>> 3/12/2010 9:49 AM
>> {ts '2010-03-12 09:49:05'} The following scheduledId was just executed:
> 2914
>> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
>> 52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955
>>
>> This is the contents of the file for the report I DO NOT want to run:
>> \uuidTest52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8\d100312.txt        167
>> 3/12/2010 9:54 AM
>> {ts '2010-03-12 09:54:07'} The following scheduledId was just executed:
> 2920
>> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
>> 52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8
>>
>>
>
> 

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)]

Bryan,

You don't by any chance have a cfschedule tag in any of your code?  Maybe 
something is hitting code with a cfschedule tag to automatically recall the 
page in 5 minutes.

That might explain why the second hit is always exactly 5 minutes after the 
original call no matter what the time frame is.

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:21 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Gabriel

Yes it does write another file five minutes later. Sorry, that is why I
included the time stamps to demonstrate that.

I haven't experienced this with other scheduled tasks but none of the other
scheduled tasks redirect to another URL either.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:08 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


So it wrote the file again 5 minutes later? Do any of your other
scheduled tasks behave like this one?

- Gabriel

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> Gabriel
>
> configNumber is an identifier I put on the URL called by the scheduled
task.
> I pass it all the way through for logging purposes.
>
> This is the contents of the file for the report I want to run:
> \uuidTest52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955\d100312.txt        167
> 3/12/2010 9:49 AM
> {ts '2010-03-12 09:49:05'} The following scheduledId was just executed:
2914
> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
> 52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955
>
> This is the contents of the file for the report I DO NOT want to run:
> \uuidTest52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8\d100312.txt        167
> 3/12/2010 9:54 AM
> {ts '2010-03-12 09:54:07'} The following scheduledId was just executed:
2920
> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
> 52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8
>
>



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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Gabriel

Yes it does write another file five minutes later. Sorry, that is why I
included the time stamps to demonstrate that.

I haven't experienced this with other scheduled tasks but none of the other
scheduled tasks redirect to another URL either.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:08 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


So it wrote the file again 5 minutes later? Do any of your other
scheduled tasks behave like this one?

- Gabriel

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> Gabriel
>
> configNumber is an identifier I put on the URL called by the scheduled
task.
> I pass it all the way through for logging purposes.
>
> This is the contents of the file for the report I want to run:
> \uuidTest52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955\d100312.txt        167
> 3/12/2010 9:49 AM
> {ts '2010-03-12 09:49:05'} The following scheduledId was just executed:
2914
> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
> 52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955
>
> This is the contents of the file for the report I DO NOT want to run:
> \uuidTest52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8\d100312.txt        167
> 3/12/2010 9:54 AM
> {ts '2010-03-12 09:54:07'} The following scheduledId was just executed:
2920
> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
> 52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8
>
>

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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

So it wrote the file again 5 minutes later? Do any of your other
scheduled tasks behave like this one?

- Gabriel

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> Gabriel
>
> configNumber is an identifier I put on the URL called by the scheduled task.
> I pass it all the way through for logging purposes.
>
> This is the contents of the file for the report I want to run:
> \uuidTest52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955\d100312.txt        167
> 3/12/2010 9:49 AM
> {ts '2010-03-12 09:49:05'} The following scheduledId was just executed: 2914
> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
> 52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955
>
> This is the contents of the file for the report I DO NOT want to run:
> \uuidTest52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8\d100312.txt        167
> 3/12/2010 9:54 AM
> {ts '2010-03-12 09:54:07'} The following scheduledId was just executed: 2920
> - arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
> 52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8
>
> Bryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:08 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> Another test comes to mind. I'd change the call to run a report to do
> something else like write a text file that's named using a UUID. Does
> that file get written again 5 minutes later?
>
> Testing to see if the main task runs twice for everything or if
> there's some relationship between running twice and making a CFHTTP
> call.
>
> - Gabriel
>
>
> 

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Gabriel

configNumber is an identifier I put on the URL called by the scheduled task.
I pass it all the way through for logging purposes.

This is the contents of the file for the report I want to run:
\uuidTest52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955\d100312.txt167
3/12/2010 9:49 AM
{ts '2010-03-12 09:49:05'} The following scheduledId was just executed: 2914
- arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
52D99D5B-0C5F-3CA2-303F0CF77BC50955

This is the contents of the file for the report I DO NOT want to run:
\uuidTest52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8\d100312.txt167
3/12/2010 9:54 AM
{ts '2010-03-12 09:54:07'} The following scheduledId was just executed: 2920
- arguments.configNumber = 1 - local.uuidForReport =
52DE3980-C6AB-230F-FB79BCC2FA5D67E8

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:08 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Another test comes to mind. I'd change the call to run a report to do
something else like write a text file that's named using a UUID. Does
that file get written again 5 minutes later?

Testing to see if the main task runs twice for everything or if
there's some relationship between running twice and making a CFHTTP
call.

- Gabriel


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Earl, George]

Bryan said:
> Exactly 5 minutes later another identical URL fires and starts another
> report. There is no indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log
or in
> my application logs that another Cold Fusion Scheduled Task fires.
There
> is
> an indication in my application log that a URL calling the event that
> starts a report is fired again.

Could the 5 minutes later request be coming from another server or
another instance in your environment?

George

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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

Another test comes to mind. I'd change the call to run a report to do
something else like write a text file that's named using a UUID. Does
that file get written again 5 minutes later?

Testing to see if the main task runs twice for everything or if
there's some relationship between running twice and making a CFHTTP
call.

- Gabriel

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> I disabled all of the existing Scheduled Tasks relating to this application.
>
> I then deleted all of the existing Scheduled Tasks relating to this
> application.
>
> I created a new Scheduled Task with a new name and an interval of 6 minutes
> instead of 10 or 7.
>
> The test results were identical.
>
> The scheduled task fires and correctly determines it should run a report so
> it fires a URL calling the event that starts a report.
>
> Exactly 5 minutes later another identical URL fires and starts another
> report. There is no indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log or in
> my application logs that another Cold Fusion Scheduled Task fires. There is
> an indication in my application log that a URL calling the event that starts
> a report is fired again.
>
> Bryan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:36 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> Bryan...
>
> Have you tried deleting your scheduled tasks and then re-entering them?
> Might clear the "cobwebs"...
>
> Rick
>
>
> 

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

I disabled all of the existing Scheduled Tasks relating to this application.

I then deleted all of the existing Scheduled Tasks relating to this
application.

I created a new Scheduled Task with a new name and an interval of 6 minutes
instead of 10 or 7.

The test results were identical.

The scheduled task fires and correctly determines it should run a report so
it fires a URL calling the event that starts a report.

Exactly 5 minutes later another identical URL fires and starts another
report. There is no indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log or in
my application logs that another Cold Fusion Scheduled Task fires. There is
an indication in my application log that a URL calling the event that starts
a report is fired again.

Bryan


-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:36 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Bryan...

Have you tried deleting your scheduled tasks and then re-entering them?
Might clear the "cobwebs"...

Rick


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

I changed the interval on the Scheduled Task from 10 minutes to 7 minutes.
The second identical URL still fires exactly 5 minutes after the first.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:36 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Something to test: I'd change the scheduled task to run at something
other than 10 minutes and see if it affects that 5 minute timeframe.
Then you'd at least know that the second one is definitely tied into
the first one as the 5 minute window changes when you changed the 10
minute window.

- Gabriel


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RE: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Andrew Scott]

When making changes to the local and region settings ColdFusion must be
restarted, I am assuming you did that?


-Original Message-
From: Terry Ford [mailto:terryfor...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks


>I personally would not have DST switched on for a server, and have it
>disabled

Thanks for the response.   I just switched DST off on the server (RHEL
linux: ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+6 localtime).

However, the scheduler.log is still picking up CST somehow after a CF
reboot:

"task -- Rescheduling for :Thu Mar 11 22:45:00 CST 2010"

Do you have any idea how CF picks up server timezone?  I would have thought
that the JVM would have picked up that change.  I'm not sure where CF is
getting that CST from. 





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Re: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Brad Wood]

I usually use the following JVM arg (I'm in the central time zone):

-Duser.timezone=America/Chicago

~Brad
- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Ford" 
To: "cf-talk" 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks


> Do you have any idea how CF picks up server timezone?  I would have 
> thought that the JVM would have picked up that change.  I'm not sure where 
> CF is getting that CST from.


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Re: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Terry Ford]

>I personally would not have DST switched on for a server, and have it
>disabled

Thanks for the response.   I just switched DST off on the server (RHEL linux: 
ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+6 localtime).

However, the scheduler.log is still picking up CST somehow after a CF reboot:

"task -- Rescheduling for :Thu Mar 11 22:45:00 CST 2010"

Do you have any idea how CF picks up server timezone?  I would have thought 
that the JVM would have picked up that change.  I'm not sure where CF is 
getting that CST from. 



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Re: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Kym Kovan]

On 12/03/2010 12:33, Terry Ford wrote:
>
> I have had the following problem the last couple of time changes, and would 
> like to know if there is a simple solution to fix it:
>
> I have a number of tasks that I need to run just after midnight, local time 
> (CT), whether it's standard CST or daylight CDT.  12:01 AM.
>
> I use CF scheduler with settings "run daily at 12:01 AM".   However, whenever 
> we hit a daylight savings and switch between CST and CDT, ColdFusion tries to 
> be smart and adjusts that starting time by 1 hour, which means that the tasks 
> start running at 11:01 PM CT.

To me that sounds more like the server is staying on Standard Time. That 
is a fairly common scenario in most hosting companies.

How to handle the daylight savings changes goes in the same basket as 
how do you handle different time zones and the answer is dependent on 
what your site is doing. Our advice to clients for "simple" sites is to 
have a switch in some convenient spot, code (Application.cfc) or 
database, to flag daylight saving status and have a global variable with 
"adjustedNow()" in it. For more complex site where you might be working 
over many time zones or international users then you need to make it 
more complex.



-- 

Yours,

Kym Kovan
mbcomms.net.au


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RE: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Andrew Scott]

I personally would not have DST switched on for a server, and have it
disabled.

But I guess the only other solution would be to have the script run before
the DTS changes, don't know how the computers do it but the DTS should
change at a given time so you might want to make sure the task is run after
that or before that time.



-Original Message-
From: Terry Ford [mailto:terryfor...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:33 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks


I have had the following problem the last couple of time changes, and would
like to know if there is a simple solution to fix it:

I have a number of tasks that I need to run just after midnight, local time
(CT), whether it's standard CST or daylight CDT.  12:01 AM.   

I use CF scheduler with settings "run daily at 12:01 AM".   However,
whenever we hit a daylight savings and switch between CST and CDT,
ColdFusion tries to be smart and adjusts that starting time by 1 hour, which
means that the tasks start running at 11:01 PM CT. 

What I'd like to say is "run daily at 12:01 AM CT", so that it runs at 12:01
regardless of whether we're in daylight savings or not.   Is there a way to
do this in scheduler?

The work around is to wait for daylight savings to occur and then go in and
resubmit all of those tasks to again run at "12:01 AM".  It then starts
working correctly until the next time change.  This, however, is a very
annoying solution.

Thanks







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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Rick Faircloth]

Bryan...

Have you tried deleting your scheduled tasks and then re-entering them?
Might clear the "cobwebs"...

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:29 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Ian

Yes I have looked at that on numerous occasions. In addition there is
logging in my application that would indicate if that were happening.

Thanks for trying to help.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


I have not followed this thread to know if this has been asked.

But have you confirmed that there is not another ColdFusion server 
(development, testing, cluster, something) calling that URL as another 
scheduled taks on that system.

I've seen that in the past where somebody sets a schedule task on the 
development for testing then moves it to production but leaves the 
development one running and somehow or the other they both actually call 
the same URL.




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Daylight Savings & Scheduled Tasks

[Terry Ford]

I have had the following problem the last couple of time changes, and would 
like to know if there is a simple solution to fix it:

I have a number of tasks that I need to run just after midnight, local time 
(CT), whether it's standard CST or daylight CDT.  12:01 AM.   

I use CF scheduler with settings "run daily at 12:01 AM".   However, whenever 
we hit a daylight savings and switch between CST and CDT, ColdFusion tries to 
be smart and adjusts that starting time by 1 hour, which means that the tasks 
start running at 11:01 PM CT. 

What I'd like to say is "run daily at 12:01 AM CT", so that it runs at 12:01 
regardless of whether we're in daylight savings or not.   Is there a way to do 
this in scheduler?

The work around is to wait for daylight savings to occur and then go in and 
resubmit all of those tasks to again run at "12:01 AM".  It then starts working 
correctly until the next time change.  This, however, is a very annoying 
solution.

Thanks





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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

Something to test: I'd change the scheduled task to run at something
other than 10 minutes and see if it affects that 5 minute timeframe.
Then you'd at least know that the second one is definitely tied into
the first one as the 5 minute window changes when you changed the 10
minute window.

- Gabriel

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> Ian
>
> Yes I have looked at that on numerous occasions. In addition there is
> logging in my application that would indicate if that were happening.
>
> Thanks for trying to help.
>
> Bryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:54 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> I have not followed this thread to know if this has been asked.
>
> But have you confirmed that there is not another ColdFusion server
> (development, testing, cluster, something) calling that URL as another
> scheduled taks on that system.
>
> I've seen that in the past where somebody sets a schedule task on the
> development for testing then moves it to production but leaves the
> development one running and somehow or the other they both actually call
> the same URL.
>
>
> 

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Ian

Yes I have looked at that on numerous occasions. In addition there is
logging in my application that would indicate if that were happening.

Thanks for trying to help.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


I have not followed this thread to know if this has been asked.

But have you confirmed that there is not another ColdFusion server 
(development, testing, cluster, something) calling that URL as another 
scheduled taks on that system.

I've seen that in the past where somebody sets a schedule task on the 
development for testing then moves it to production but leaves the 
development one running and somehow or the other they both actually call 
the same URL.


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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Ian Skinner]

I have not followed this thread to know if this has been asked.

But have you confirmed that there is not another ColdFusion server 
(development, testing, cluster, something) calling that URL as another 
scheduled taks on that system.

I've seen that in the past where somebody sets a schedule task on the 
development for testing then moves it to production but leaves the 
development one running and somehow or the other they both actually call 
the same URL.


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

The scheduled task is scheduled to run every 10 minutes. There is no
indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log that a Scheduled Task fires
when it isn't scheduled to.

I will check with our server administrators if the latest updater is
installed. I would be surprised if it were not. I have been in regular
contact with them about this issue.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:31 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Is your scheduled task scheduled to run every 5 minutes? Do you have
the latest updater for CF7 installed? Or original CF7?

- Gabriel


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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

Is your scheduled task scheduled to run every 5 minutes? Do you have
the latest updater for CF7 installed? Or original CF7?

- Gabriel

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> Gabriel and Steve
>
> There is no indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log that the
> Scheduled Tasks are activating twice.
>
> There is no indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log that the
> Scheduled Tasks are running twice.
>
> There is no indication in my application logs that Event1 which is run by
> the scheduled task is running twice.
>
> There *is* indication in my application log that Event2 that is fired by
> Event1 when appropriate is being run twice via the fired URL.
>
> One Scheduled Task, two URLs fired. One five minutes after the other.
>
> Thanks for your continued efforts to help.
>
> Bryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:23 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> "After restarting the server, the scheduled tasks are activated twice." ??
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/coldfusion/mx702/cf702_release
> notes.html
>
> - Gabriel
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:33 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
>  wrote:
>>
>> Is the CF7 server fully patched?  I seem to remember a fix for scheduled
>> jobs running twice. I could be remembering incorrectly though.
>>
>> Steve
>
> 

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Gabriel and Steve

There is no indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log that the
Scheduled Tasks are activating twice.

There is no indication in the Cold Fusion Scheduled Task log that the
Scheduled Tasks are running twice.

There is no indication in my application logs that Event1 which is run by
the scheduled task is running twice.

There *is* indication in my application log that Event2 that is fired by
Event1 when appropriate is being run twice via the fired URL.

One Scheduled Task, two URLs fired. One five minutes after the other.

Thanks for your continued efforts to help.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:23 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


"After restarting the server, the scheduled tasks are activated twice." ??

http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/coldfusion/mx702/cf702_release
notes.html

- Gabriel

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:33 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
 wrote:
>
> Is the CF7 server fully patched?  I seem to remember a fix for scheduled
> jobs running twice. I could be remembering incorrectly though.
>
> Steve

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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

"After restarting the server, the scheduled tasks are activated twice." ??

http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/coldfusion/mx702/cf702_releasenotes.html

- Gabriel

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:33 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
 wrote:
>
> Is the CF7 server fully patched?  I seem to remember a fix for scheduled
> jobs running twice. I could be remembering incorrectly though.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:37 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> The data are the same for both the desired call and the unexplained call
> to
> the URL exactly five minutes later.
>
> The five minute interval is very puzzling as is the fact that it only
> happens when Event1 is run *from the Cold Fusion 7 scheduler*. If I run
> event1 in a browser the second URL call does not occur.
>
> Bryan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:19 PM
> To: 'cf-talk@houseoffusion.com'
> Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
> Steve
>
> Thanks very much. I've added those to my code and will run another
> series of
> tests to see if anything useful shows up.
>
> The logging that I'm doing only works with string so I can't just dump
> the
> whole cgi form and url scopes to a file without specifying each one and
> then
> the log gets kind of unwieldy with all of that in there.
>
> Bryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:33 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> Bryan,
>
> I normally save all of CGI/Form/URL.
> The main CGI ones to look at though are:
> Cgi.http_referer, cgi.http_user_agent, cgi.remote_addr,
> cgi.request_method, cgi.script_name
>
> If cgi.remote_addr is the ip of the server then the server made the
> call. User agent helps to see if it was the scheduler or not.
> Script_name ensures that it isn't some old version (name_old.cfm) laying
> around that is getting called somehow. Request method helps if this
> comes from a form, if the method is get, then something looped around
> and called it.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)]

Is the CF7 server fully patched?  I seem to remember a fix for scheduled
jobs running twice. I could be remembering incorrectly though.

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:37 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


The data are the same for both the desired call and the unexplained call
to
the URL exactly five minutes later.

The five minute interval is very puzzling as is the fact that it only
happens when Event1 is run *from the Cold Fusion 7 scheduler*. If I run
event1 in a browser the second URL call does not occur.

Bryan


-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:19 PM
To: 'cf-talk@houseoffusion.com'
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

Steve

Thanks very much. I've added those to my code and will run another
series of
tests to see if anything useful shows up.

The logging that I'm doing only works with string so I can't just dump
the
whole cgi form and url scopes to a file without specifying each one and
then
the log gets kind of unwieldy with all of that in there.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:33 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Bryan,

I normally save all of CGI/Form/URL.
The main CGI ones to look at though are:
Cgi.http_referer, cgi.http_user_agent, cgi.remote_addr,
cgi.request_method, cgi.script_name

If cgi.remote_addr is the ip of the server then the server made the
call. User agent helps to see if it was the scheduler or not.
Script_name ensures that it isn't some old version (name_old.cfm) laying
around that is getting called somehow. Request method helps if this
comes from a form, if the method is get, then something looped around
and called it.

Steve




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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

The data are the same for both the desired call and the unexplained call to
the URL exactly five minutes later.

The five minute interval is very puzzling as is the fact that it only
happens when Event1 is run *from the Cold Fusion 7 scheduler*. If I run
event1 in a browser the second URL call does not occur.

Bryan


-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:19 PM
To: 'cf-talk@houseoffusion.com'
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

Steve

Thanks very much. I've added those to my code and will run another series of
tests to see if anything useful shows up.

The logging that I'm doing only works with string so I can't just dump the
whole cgi form and url scopes to a file without specifying each one and then
the log gets kind of unwieldy with all of that in there.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:33 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Bryan,

I normally save all of CGI/Form/URL.
The main CGI ones to look at though are:
Cgi.http_referer, cgi.http_user_agent, cgi.remote_addr,
cgi.request_method, cgi.script_name

If cgi.remote_addr is the ip of the server then the server made the
call. User agent helps to see if it was the scheduler or not.
Script_name ensures that it isn't some old version (name_old.cfm) laying
around that is getting called somehow. Request method helps if this
comes from a form, if the method is get, then something looped around
and called it.

Steve


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Steve

Thanks very much. I've added those to my code and will run another series of
tests to see if anything useful shows up.

The logging that I'm doing only works with string so I can't just dump the
whole cgi form and url scopes to a file without specifying each one and then
the log gets kind of unwieldy with all of that in there.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:33 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Bryan,

I normally save all of CGI/Form/URL.
The main CGI ones to look at though are:
Cgi.http_referer, cgi.http_user_agent, cgi.remote_addr,
cgi.request_method, cgi.script_name

If cgi.remote_addr is the ip of the server then the server made the
call. User agent helps to see if it was the scheduler or not.
Script_name ensures that it isn't some old version (name_old.cfm) laying
around that is getting called somehow. Request method helps if this
comes from a form, if the method is get, then something looped around
and called it.

Steve


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)]

Bryan,

I normally save all of CGI/Form/URL.
The main CGI ones to look at though are:
Cgi.http_referer, cgi.http_user_agent, cgi.remote_addr,
cgi.request_method, cgi.script_name

If cgi.remote_addr is the ip of the server then the server made the
call. User agent helps to see if it was the scheduler or not.
Script_name ensures that it isn't some old version (name_old.cfm) laying
around that is getting called somehow. Request method helps if this
comes from a form, if the method is get, then something looped around
and called it.

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Steve

I already have logging code in there and it is storing the
cgi.remote-addr
the logged in user and information about the report it just started. As
mentioned previously, I know what the stack trace is.

It will be easy for me to add other variables but I can't think of any
that
would be useful in debugging this.

Which variables do you think will help in this situation? I will add
them to
my existing logging.
 
Bryan




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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Steve

I already have logging code in there and it is storing the cgi.remote-addr
the logged in user and information about the report it just started. As
mentioned previously, I know what the stack trace is.

It will be easy for me to add other variables but I can't think of any that
would be useful in debugging this.

Which variables do you think will help in this situation? I will add them to
my existing logging.
 
Bryan



-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:35 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Bryan,

I'm just talking about a simple file with this information.  Have it
save for every call not just exceptions.  Then you can see things like
the browser used.  If it is the cf scheduler that is somehow kicking it
off then cfscheduler will be listed as the browser (or something
similar).  If it's a cflocation from another page, then it "should" show
the http-referrer of the page.

Just starting with the basics to make sure that it isn't something
simple that would *NEVER* happen.  You know those things that bite you
in the A** because every time you thought well it's not that. (Happens
to me quite often)

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:15 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


I have code that dumps any exception to a file. Previously I put a
cfthrow
in Event2 just after it started the report. This dumped the stack trace
to a
file. There was nothing before the call to Event2 besides the normal
Mach-II
event handling stuff.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


In event 2, put in something that saves off all the CGI/form/url
variables to a file before it does any other processing.  Then you can
look at the file for the second run and see what kicked it off.


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)]

Bryan,

I'm just talking about a simple file with this information.  Have it
save for every call not just exceptions.  Then you can see things like
the browser used.  If it is the cf scheduler that is somehow kicking it
off then cfscheduler will be listed as the browser (or something
similar).  If it's a cflocation from another page, then it "should" show
the http-referrer of the page.

Just starting with the basics to make sure that it isn't something
simple that would *NEVER* happen.  You know those things that bite you
in the A** because every time you thought well it's not that. (Happens
to me quite often)

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Bryan S [mailto:bryansgroup...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:15 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


I have code that dumps any exception to a file. Previously I put a
cfthrow
in Event2 just after it started the report. This dumped the stack trace
to a
file. There was nothing before the call to Event2 besides the normal
Mach-II
event handling stuff.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


In event 2, put in something that saves off all the CGI/form/url
variables to a file before it does any other processing.  Then you can
look at the file for the second run and see what kicked it off.




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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

I have code that dumps any exception to a file. Previously I put a cfthrow
in Event2 just after it started the report. This dumped the stack trace to a
file. There was nothing before the call to Event2 besides the normal Mach-II
event handling stuff.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


In event 2, put in something that saves off all the CGI/form/url
variables to a file before it does any other processing.  Then you can
look at the file for the second run and see what kicked it off.


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Gabriel

We are running Cold Fusion 7 and there is no indication that is going to
change any time soon.

Thanks very much for trying to help.

Bryan

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From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:00 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Also, what version of CF are you running?

- Gabriel


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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Thanks for trying John but this won't help me. There are only certain
conditions when I don't want another report to start. When the server has
sufficient resources to process another report I want multiple reports to
run simultaneously. Event1 checks if those conditions exist.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: John Drake [mailto:char...@ohmss.info] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks


Its a bit of a kludge - but could you add some cfif code to check the time
and if it didn't meet the criteria it wouldn't process?

I.e. if the task is supposed to fire every 12 minutes - check the time when
running the task and if it isn't :12, :24, :36, :48, or :00 - then don't
execute. 



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RE: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Bryan S]

Gabriel

O.K. I fixed the problem with the cfdump having two vars and no label but
prior to reading your post showing my oversight I tried to do some file
logging as shown below. The results of the top call to logEntry show in the
file but the results of the second call do not. This occurred with
cflocation as well. Once it gets to that line it doesn't go past it in the
.cfm










cfhttp = 


Bryan

>Did you declare "var" twice in your cfdump like posted? I'd remove the
>second "var" as it may not like that.
>
>- Gabriel


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Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks

[Dorioo]

Did you declare "var" twice in your cfdump like posted? I'd remove the
second "var" as it may not like that.

- Gabriel

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Bryan S  wrote:
>
> -The good news...
>
> The cfhttp call is working now. When I tried it in the .cfc I disabled the
> .cfm view. When that didn't work I put the cfhttp call in the .cfm but
> forgot to reenable the view.
>
> -The bad news...
>
> The cfhttp call did not fix the problem.
> Cold Fusion Scheduled Task calls Event1
> Event1 calls Event2
> Five minutes exactly passes and Event2 gets fired again
>
> Event1 does not get called again
> No Cold Fusion Scheduled Task can be found to fire Event2. In any event how
> would it know to fire five minutes after Event1 is called.
>
> -The weird news...
>
> This code failed to stop and let me look at the values in cfhttp.
>
>                        
>
>                        cfhttp = 
>                        
>
> This problem is killing me.
>
> Bryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:32 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Phantom Scheduled Tasks
>
>
> Dump "cfhttp" after the call and it will show you useful information
> (run the page in the browser so you can see the dump).
>
> Look at the status values and response for clues as to what's going.
>
> - Gabriel
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Bryan S  wrote:
>>
>> Well, I think I know why I didn't use that originally. It is not working.
> I
>> am probably doing something dumb but I haven't been able to Google this
>> problem away.
>
>
> 

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