RE: [Chevelle-List] Gas prices

2001-09-13 Thread Dave Studly


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I'm over on the east side of Cleveland (Lyndhurst) and I saw nothing above
1.75 for regular.  That's a little high, but nothing like the 3-4$5gallon
prices mentioned.


-Dave,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



   filled up early in the afternoon. $1.64 for fear of a hike.
 Later in the
  evening the gas station lines were long and the supermarkets busy in NE
 Ohio.
  Cleveland mayor said no price gouging..Cleveland police are
 checking prices
 to
  stop any hikes. 
 Walt we had cars from the eastside coming here in Parma to buy
 gas at $1.69
 because of $3-4 prices in Northfield.  John, 67SS396
 http://www.geocities.com/grepr


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread Don


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I agree that we need to take our time  be certain of who the offenders are
AND who helped  supported them. THEN we need to go in  remove them from
the face of the Earth! However I don't agree with the disparaging remarks
about President Bush. I believe he is doing a good job, he is an honorable 
honest man  I don't believe for a minute that he is scared.
Regardless, he IS the President  at this critical time he  our country
need our unity, understanding  total support.
My 2 cents,
Don


 guys, guys, dont get your panties in a bunch.if we do what we sould
do-wipe
 them
 off the f_cking map, we need to know who is responsible- without a
doubt!!!
 because there will be a lot of innocent lifes taken in our wrath. but so
be
 it...
 i am not protecting pussy faced Bush in any means, but in something like
 this we
 need to be sure who the cowards are.
 -Original Message-
 From: BRIAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Yeah and who is the great leader, it can't be Bush he hasn't done
anything
 yet!

 Brian

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 Somehow I just can't see New York as the City of God...

 Dale


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 In a message dated 09/11/2001 5:44:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two

 brothers torn
  apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader

 will
  succumb. The third big war will begin when the big city is

 burning
 - Nostradamus circa 1654
 
  Scary, eh? 
 
 So are the twin towers the TWo Brothers? Seems a reach.
 
 David
 
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[Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Robert B. King



To 
all,
I will 
apologize in advance for my rantings.

Under 
normal circumstances, a diplomatic approach to international problems would be 
preferable to military action. But, these arenot a normal 
circumstances and is most definitely no ordinary events. The rules have 
changed and the time has come for the people of this great country to demand a 
response. Congress must step up to the plate declare a formal state of war 
on any and all that allow, encourage and perform such despicable acts. We, 
the American people need to be assured that these events will not go 
unanswered. We need to let the rest of the world know that we can not and will not 
allow any entity to attack our citizens or our military ever again. We 
must put the terrorist communities around the world on 
alert that they have pissed off the wrong country.

I 
heard talk on the news channels yesterday about declarations of war with 
references to Vietnam, Korea, Desert Storm, etc. along with the fact that a 
declaration of war has notbeen made since the attack on Pearl 
Harbor. Wake up people, that was then. Uncounted Americans are 
dead,American property has been destroyed and the sanctity of our freedom 
and very way of life is being challenged like never before. These attacks 
happened on American soil. Usama Bin Laden issues statements that he did 
not do this. Muslim extremists and supporters of terrorism celebrate in 
the streets. Others extremists taunt the U.S. stating that we "do not have 
the belly" to retaliate. The Taliban government of Afghanistan backs him 
up and then says; don't bomb us, innocent people will die and reminds us to 
consider the consequences. Too f...ing late Bubba.

I am 
in one hundred percent agreement with the notion that countries that aid and 
abet terrorism should also be held accountable. The terrorists that 
carried out this attack can no longer be punished by any living human being, but 
their comrades and leaders need to be dealt with immediately, swiftly and 
absolutely. If the execution of this plan involves military action, so be 
it. The full wrath of the American people must be unleashed against our 
enemies.

The 
nature of terrorism is so perverse and elusive that civilized people can not 
readily understand it to the degree necessary to effectively eradicate this 
threat to humanity. This is an issue of generational hatred that has now 
come to a head with the United States as its primary focus. I for one do 
not want to live in the gun sights of an enemy with no face, courage, honor or 
reason. There will be no diplomatic solutions. There will be no 
negotiations. There will be no compromise. There must be 
action.

This 
sh.. stops, and it stops right now. 


Thanks 
for letting me vent.
Robert 
B. King
Safety 
Harbor, Florida




Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Michael Pell


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well said

We've been putting up with this for a lot of years, and the situation
only gets worse.  It's time to take an offensive position.   

 Robert B. King wrote:
 
 To all,
 I will apologize in advance for my rantings.
 
 Under normal circumstances, a diplomatic approach to international
 problems would be preferable to military action.   But, these are not
 a normal circumstances and is most definitely no ordinary events.  The
 rules have changed and the time has come for the people of this great
 country to demand a response.  Congress must step up to the plate
 declare a formal state of war on any and all that allow, encourage and
 perform such despicable acts.  We, the American people need to be
 assured that these events will not go unanswered.  We need to let the
 rest of the world know that we can not and will not allow any entity
 to attack our citizens or our military ever again.  We must put the
 terrorist communities around the world on alert that they have pissed
 off the wrong country.
 
 I heard talk on the news channels yesterday about declarations of war
 with references to Vietnam, Korea, Desert Storm, etc. along with the
 fact that a declaration of war has not been made since the attack on
 Pearl Harbor.  Wake up people, that was then.  Uncounted Americans are
 dead, American property has been destroyed and the sanctity of our
 freedom and very way of life is being challenged like never before.
 These attacks happened on American soil.  Usama Bin Laden issues
 statements that he did not do this.  Muslim extremists and supporters
 of terrorism celebrate in the streets.  Others extremists taunt the
 U.S. stating that we do not have the belly to retaliate.  The
 Taliban government of Afghanistan backs him up and then says; don't
 bomb us, innocent people will die and reminds us to consider the
 consequences.  Too f...ing late Bubba.
 
 I am in one hundred percent agreement with the notion that countries
 that aid and abet terrorism should also be held accountable.  The
 terrorists that carried out this attack can no longer be punished by
 any living human being, but their comrades and leaders need to be
 dealt with immediately, swiftly and absolutely.  If the execution of
 this plan involves military action, so be it.  The full wrath of the
 American people must be unleashed against our enemies.
 
 The nature of terrorism is so perverse and elusive that civilized
 people can not readily understand it to the degree necessary to
 effectively eradicate this threat to humanity.  This is an issue of
 generational hatred that has now come to a head with the United States
 as its primary focus.  I for one do not want to live in the gun sights
 of an enemy with no face, courage, honor or reason.  There will be no
 diplomatic solutions.  There will be no negotiations.  There will be
 no compromise.  There must be action.
 
 This sh.. stops, and it stops right now.
 
 
 Thanks for letting me vent.
 Robert B. King
 Safety Harbor, Florida
 
 

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread richard a schaefer


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robert - NO apology necessary.  I thank you for expressing the thoughts
of many Americans.
rick schaefer

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:59:41 -0400 Robert B. King
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 To all,
 I will apologize in advance for my rantings.
 
 Under normal circumstances, a diplomatic approach to international 
 problems
 would be preferable to military action.   But, these are not a 
 normal
 circumstances and is most definitely no ordinary events.  The rules 
 have
 changed and the time has come for the people of this great country 
 to demand
 a response.  Congress must step up to the plate declare a formal 
 state of
 war on any and all that allow, encourage and perform such despicable 
 acts.
 We, the American people need to be assured that these events will 
 not go
 unanswered.  We need to let the rest of the world know that we can 
 not and
 will not allow any entity to attack our citizens or our military 
 ever again.
 We must put the terrorist communities around the world on alert that 
 they
 have pissed off the wrong country.
 
 I heard talk on the news channels yesterday about declarations of 
 war with
 references to Vietnam, Korea, Desert Storm, etc. along with the fact 
 that a
 declaration of war has not been made since the attack on Pearl 
 Harbor.  Wake
 up people, that was then.  Uncounted Americans are dead, American 
 property
 has been destroyed and the sanctity of our freedom and very way of 
 life is
 being challenged like never before.  These attacks happened on 
 American
 soil.  Usama Bin Laden issues statements that he did not do this.  
 Muslim
 extremists and supporters of terrorism celebrate in the streets.  
 Others
 extremists taunt the U.S. stating that we do not have the belly to
 retaliate.  The Taliban government of Afghanistan backs him up and 
 then
 says; don't bomb us, innocent people will die and reminds us to 
 consider the
 consequences.  Too f...ing late Bubba.
 
 I am in one hundred percent agreement with the notion that countries 
 that
 aid and abet terrorism should also be held accountable.  The 
 terrorists that
 carried out this attack can no longer be punished by any living 
 human being,
 but their comrades and leaders need to be dealt with immediately, 
 swiftly
 and absolutely.  If the execution of this plan involves military 
 action, so
 be it.  The full wrath of the American people must be unleashed 
 against our
 enemies.
 
 The nature of terrorism is so perverse and elusive that civilized 
 people can
 not readily understand it to the degree necessary to effectively 
 eradicate
 this threat to humanity.  This is an issue of generational hatred 
 that has
 now come to a head with the United States as its primary focus.  I 
 for one
 do not want to live in the gun sights of an enemy with no face, 
 courage,
 honor or reason.  There will be no diplomatic solutions.  There will 
 be no
 negotiations.  There will be no compromise.  There must be action.
 
 This sh.. stops, and it stops right now.
 
 
 Thanks for letting me vent.
 Robert B. King
 Safety Harbor, Florida
 
 

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread Kelly Hanna


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I do not think that it is right for anyone in the United States to bad mouth
OUR PRESIDENT.

I agree with this 1000%. Regardless of personal opinions, this was an act 
of war against all our country stands forno excuse for siding with the 
types of people who would do this. To see anyone badmouth any president at 
this time makes me sick.

  We should stand strong as Americans. This event could start a
new war. We must know who is responiable before we go kicking ass. President
Bush is collecting information needed to make a decision on who and when
someone will pay for this event. The FBI is hot on the trail. Let wait a
little here and see what comes out of this before we start saying that the
President is a pussy face etc.

Even presidents I did not think a lot of always have reacted with swiftness 
when dealing with terrorists and human rights abusers in any country. I 
don't like some of the things done by the Clinton administration (like 
opening our borders for all this immigrant trash to just waltz in and start 
being assholes all over our country). But if it were him in GW's position 
right now, I'd be behind his and the government's decisions 100%.

We need to stand strong as a nation and that
means supporting our President. What do you think would happen if we started
bombing the wrong enemies. Just because we have not started shooting and
dropping bombs does not mean that the President is not doing he job
correctly.

That would create the last world war and I think we all want to avoid that. 
When we find out who and where, you can be sure they will be dealt with. I 
think the USA should declare war on any and all present and past 
terroristsget 'em all at once!


The Hannas
2 Elks Ranch









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Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Kelly Hanna

At 07:59 AM 09/13/2001, you wrote:
To
all,
I will apologize in advance for
my rantings.
No apology necessaryvery well said.

The Hannas
2 Elks Ranch 






RE: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC)


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if you read my message clearly i was stressing on the issue of taking our
time
in investagating to find who is respondsible and not jumping the gun. As for
bad
mouthing, i am entitled to my opinion because i am an AMERICAN. but i can
say
that i would rather have Bush in office during this than Goofy Dole.
And i apologize if i ruffled any feathers of other AMERICANS and veterans

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I do not think that it is right for anyone in the United States to bad
mouth
OUR PRESIDENT.

I agree with this 1000%. Regardless of personal opinions, this was an act 
of war against all our country stands forno excuse for siding with the 
types of people who would do this. To see anyone badmouth any president at 
this time makes me sick.

  We should stand strong as Americans. This event could start a
new war. We must know who is responiable before we go kicking ass.
President
Bush is collecting information needed to make a decision on who and when
someone will pay for this event. The FBI is hot on the trail. Let wait a
little here and see what comes out of this before we start saying that the
President is a pussy face etc.

Even presidents I did not think a lot of always have reacted with swiftness 
when dealing with terrorists and human rights abusers in any country. I 
don't like some of the things done by the Clinton administration (like 
opening our borders for all this immigrant trash to just waltz in and start 
being assholes all over our country). But if it were him in GW's position 
right now, I'd be behind his and the government's decisions 100%.

We need to stand strong as a nation and that
means supporting our President. What do you think would happen if we
started
bombing the wrong enemies. Just because we have not started shooting and
dropping bombs does not mean that the President is not doing he job
correctly.

That would create the last world war and I think we all want to avoid that. 
When we find out who and where, you can be sure they will be dealt with. I 
think the USA should declare war on any and all present and past 
terroristsget 'em all at once!


The Hannas
2 Elks Ranch









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[Chevelle-List] Badmouthing and poor judgement

2001-09-13 Thread dspencer


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No offense, Joe, but if you're going to espouse political opinion, please
educate yourself first.  Dole hasn't been a political force for nine years.
He's now most noted for hawking Viagra and ogling Brittney Spears.
Pertinent, provocative opinions are one thing, uninformed, puerile name
calling is another.

As many others have said, this is no time to begin slinging mud - but a time
for slinging precision guided weapons.  

Since there's so much commentary and coverage of this incident available
elsewhere, why don't we make this back into a Chevelle list and take refuge
there?

Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, Arizona
'70 Malibu  (big block garage queen, weekend street bully)
'66 El Camino (daily driver, weekend ranch duty)




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From: Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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if you read my message clearly i was stressing on the issue of taking our
time
in investagating to find who is respondsible and not jumping the gun. As for
bad
mouthing, i am entitled to my opinion because i am an AMERICAN. but i can
say
that i would rather have Bush in office during this than Goofy Dole.
And i apologize if i ruffled any feathers of other AMERICANS and veterans

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From: Kelly Hanna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus



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I do not think that it is right for anyone in the United States to bad
mouth
OUR PRESIDENT.

I agree with this 1000%. Regardless of personal opinions, this was an act 
of war against all our country stands forno excuse for siding with the 
types of people who would do this. To see anyone badmouth any president at 
this time makes me sick.

  We should stand strong as Americans. This event could start a
new war. We must know who is responiable before we go kicking ass.
President
Bush is collecting information needed to make a decision on who and when
someone will pay for this event. The FBI is hot on the trail. Let wait a
little here and see what comes out of this before we start saying that the
President is a pussy face etc.

Even presidents I did not think a lot of always have reacted with swiftness 
when dealing with terrorists and human rights abusers in any country. I 
don't like some of the things done by the Clinton administration (like 
opening our borders for all this immigrant trash to just waltz in and start 
being assholes all over our country). But if it were him in GW's position 
right now, I'd be behind his and the government's decisions 100%.

We need to stand strong as a nation and that
means supporting our President. What do you think would happen if we
started
bombing the wrong enemies. Just because we have not started shooting and
dropping bombs does not mean that the President is not doing he job
correctly.

That would create the last world war and I think we all want to avoid that. 
When we find out who and where, you can be sure they will be dealt with. I 
think the USA should declare war on any and all present and past 
terroristsget 'em all at once!


The Hannas
2 Elks Ranch









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RE: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread ALBBIEs1


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Get off it!

I am a transplant to the state of Kansas but consider myself an Kansan. I do not 
appreciate the continued comments made about our past leaders and current leadership! 
Robert Dole is not in public office and is not Goofy! Again, I am not origianlly from 
Kansas but have had the opportunity to meet folks from the western part of this state. 
Their is some truth to folks like Robert Dole and others being plain spoken folks! 
These people my not say much and sometimes are misunderstood but make no mistake they 
are honest good people!  I don't beleive myself or many of us can display a solid 
resume of public service as Bob Dole. Leave the remarks of our Nations leaders out of 
this thread!

Dwaine
66SS

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread ALBBIEs1


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Robert,

I was a well put and a Beautiful RANT!

Dwaine
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread Dgrewhl1
Didnt it take 7/8 months to co-ordinate the effort for Desert Storm?,,,the only problem I would have if it does go down is that we pull out before the job is "done"support article 12,,,and get it done!...


Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
kind of easy to see who voted for who in last election


Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Robert:
I say surround Afghanistan and let nothing in or out under no circumstances. 
Not even for humanitarian reasons. what does this country contribute to 
society except terrorist? 

 
Larry



RE: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC)


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WRONG-see theres an assumption

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kind of easy to see who voted for who in last election 


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread SUPRSPRT72
I and all of us here in the U.S.A. agree get it done get it done quick and 
steadfast but as the old saying goes all good things come to those who wait 
these people didnt plan this terrorist act in a day it was well thought out 
and planned, just like what were (USA) will do. patience is a virtue!!!

Ken 
 72 HeavyChevy


Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Agree 100% with you Dwaine! 


Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread MICRLASER


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Very well said Robert.  I think that about sums up the feelings of all 
Americans. Some of the businesses around here that are arab/rug head owned 
have alrready been attacked.

Tom

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Badmouthing and poor judgement

2001-09-13 Thread jimmach


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I AGREE!!! The gas prices info is of interest to me, but now is the
time to cut back on the political statements. I do not intend to
demean any people, or the tragedy of the situation, but maybe we
oughta get back towards the intent of this list. There are other
venues out on the 'net for political discussion.

Thanks for listening.

Jim ACES #2020 2-'66 Chevelles


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 No offense, Joe, but if you're going to espouse political opinion,
please
 educate yourself first.  Dole hasn't been a political force for nine
years.
 He's now most noted for hawking Viagra and ogling Brittney Spears.
 Pertinent, provocative opinions are one thing, uninformed, puerile
name
 calling is another.

 As many others have said, this is no time to begin slinging mud -
but a time
 for slinging precision guided weapons.

 Since there's so much commentary and coverage of this incident
available
 elsewhere, why don't we make this back into a Chevelle list and take
refuge
 there?

 Darrell Spencer
 Cave Creek, Arizona
 '70 Malibu  (big block garage queen, weekend street bully)
 '66 El Camino (daily driver, weekend ranch duty)




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 From: Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 September, 2001 7:42 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus



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 if you read my message clearly i was stressing on the issue of
taking our
 time
 in investagating to find who is respondsible and not jumping the
gun. As for
 bad
 mouthing, i am entitled to my opinion because i am an AMERICAN. but
i can
 say
 that i would rather have Bush in office during this than Goofy Dole.
 And i apologize if i ruffled any feathers of other AMERICANS and
veterans

 -Original Message-
 From: Kelly Hanna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:57 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus



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 I do not think that it is right for anyone in the United States to
bad
 mouth
 OUR PRESIDENT.

 I agree with this 1000%. Regardless of personal opinions, this was
an act
 of war against all our country stands forno excuse for siding
with the
 types of people who would do this. To see anyone badmouth any
president at
 this time makes me sick.

   We should stand strong as Americans. This event could start a
 new war. We must know who is responiable before we go kicking ass.
 President
 Bush is collecting information needed to make a decision on who and
when
 someone will pay for this event. The FBI is hot on the trail. Let
wait a
 little here and see what comes out of this before we start saying
that the
 President is a pussy face etc.

 Even presidents I did not think a lot of always have reacted with
swiftness
 when dealing with terrorists and human rights abusers in any
country. I
 don't like some of the things done by the Clinton administration
(like
 opening our borders for all this immigrant trash to just waltz in
and start
 being assholes all over our country). But if it were him in GW's
position
 right now, I'd be behind his and the government's decisions 100%.

 We need to stand strong as a nation and that
 means supporting our President. What do you think would happen if
we
 started
 bombing the wrong enemies. Just because we have not started
shooting and
 dropping bombs does not mean that the President is not doing he job
 correctly.

 That would create the last world war and I think we all want to
avoid that.
 When we find out who and where, you can be sure they will be dealt
with. I
 think the USA should declare war on any and all present and past
 terroristsget 'em all at once!


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Dave Corgill


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This is the chevelle list isn't it??  Can't someone make
a new Terrorism in America List?


You are right, so when we find out who did this we should gather them
all up. Fly them here, strip them of all their clothes  super glue
them to a big 4 lane highway (one in each state), then have the Chevelle
cruise of all time. 1000's of Chevelles  Elkys lined up at the start,
guess we could call it the Trash speed bump run. Run it till nothing
is left of the speed bumps.

Fitting that they be crushed by big American iron that was made in
a time that nobody F**ked with us!



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC)


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Amen, dont forget the burn outs !!!

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At 12:27 PM 09/13/2001 -0400, you wrote:

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This is the chevelle list isn't it??  Can't someone make
a new Terrorism in America List?


You are right, so when we find out who did this we should gather them
all up. Fly them here, strip them of all their clothes  super glue
them to a big 4 lane highway (one in each state), then have the Chevelle
cruise of all time. 1000's of Chevelles  Elkys lined up at the start,
guess we could call it the Trash speed bump run. Run it till nothing
is left of the speed bumps.

Fitting that they be crushed by big American iron that was made in
a time that nobody F**ked with us!



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Robert B. King


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Open up the headers and get out the Clorox.  I feel a few burnouts comin'
on.

Bob


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This is the chevelle list isn't it??  Can't someone make
a new Terrorism in America List?


You are right, so when we find out who did this we should gather them
all up. Fly them here, strip them of all their clothes  super glue
them to a big 4 lane highway (one in each state), then have the Chevelle
cruise of all time. 1000's of Chevelles  Elkys lined up at the start,
guess we could call it the Trash speed bump run. Run it till nothing
is left of the speed bumps.

Fitting that they be crushed by big American iron that was made in
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RE: [Chevelle-List] '65 Chevelles

2001-09-13 Thread trondd


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Yes.

Tim.

On 13-Sep-2001 wrench wrote:
 
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 I have this beautiful '65 SS, I was wondering if anybody out there could
 answer me this...Is there any other car out there as nice as
 mine? Plz keep your opinions short as I have too much E-Mail  concerning
 the attacks on this list. Thank You !
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Re: [Chevelle-List] ENGINE

2001-09-13 Thread MICRLASER


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Check that motor for a DZ stamped somewhere on it!  That is the same casting 
number used to the infamous 302 DZ  put in 69 Z28 Camaros.

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Anybody running Flowmaster mufflers behind stock exhaust manifolds and header pipes?

2001-09-13 Thread Herbert Lumpp



Hi Jim,

I have 2 chamber Flowmasters on my 76 Vette 
with the stock ram horn exhaust manifolds. I have a .wav if you want to 
hear it.

cYa-

Herb Lumpp



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  Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 9:56 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Anybody running 
  Flowmaster mufflers behind stock exhaust manifolds and header pipes?
  
  Is anybody out there running Flowmaster 2-chamber or 3-chamber mufflers 
  and tailpipes behind stock exhaust manifolds and header pipes? 
  
  
  After taking a detour last week to order a new gas tank  the 
  accompanying h/w, I'm back to thinking about a new exhaust system. When 
  I got my new Year One catalog in the mail with my gas tank bolt shipmen over 
  the weekend, I noticed that the catalog lists the stock muffler dimensions as 
  25" overall length with a 21" case length, whereas the Flowmaster 3-chamber 
  dimensions are 22" overall  16" case and the 2-chamber dimensions are 19" 
  overall  13" case.
  
  Given that the Flowmaster mufflers are "shorter" than stock mufflers and 
  the Flowmaster tailpipes claim to be the same length and bend footprints as 
  stock tailpipes, I'm wondering if I'd be able toconnect a set of 
  Flowmaster mufflers and tailpipes directly tomy stock 80" header pipes 
  or whether I'll need some sort of"extensions" (to get the muflers to sit 
  far enough back so that the tailpipes will loop over the rear properly).
  
  (I realize that a muffler shop could properly rig up something with no 
  sweat, but I was hoping that I could just buy all "off-the-shelf" 
  partsand be able to assemble everythingright out of the box 
  without needing any special bending or welding tools).
  
  If anybody has any experience or thoughts on this, I'd appreciate hearing 
  them!
  
   Jim 
  -no-69SS-cars-at
  


Re: [Chevelle-List] '65 Chevelles

2001-09-13 Thread MICRLASER


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I know a guy that has a gorgeous 67 SS.  His car is perfect. His name is Ed 
Pienta.  His car is on the Maryland Chevelle Club's page.

Tom

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Re: [Chevelle-List] '65 Chevelles

2001-09-13 Thread wrench


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That's Great!!! Now it sounds like I'm back on the list again.
Wrench 59
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 Pienta.  His car is on the Maryland Chevelle Club's page.

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Re: [Chevelle-List] ENGINE

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In a message dated 9/13/01 1:16:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Engine number: (i found two lines of characters, i don't know which one is

that)

   V1218CKS

   16N561479


Block Casting number:

   3970010 

Here's what I come up with...

The 3970010 is a small block and was used from 1969-1975.  In '69 it was only 
available as a 4 bolt.

V = Flint, MI Engine Assembly Plant
12 = 12th month = December
18 = 18th day of the month
CKS = Engine code suffix

1 = divisional id no., Chevrolet
6 = model year  something's not right here, unless this block was used in a 
1976 vehicle.
N = car's assembly plant, Norwood, Ohio
561479 = last 6 #'s of the car's VIN

Sincerely,
Trevor Baker
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus

2001-09-13 Thread BRIAN


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Don't misinterpret!! I was simply making a comment about the Nostradamus
prediction. I do support everything OUR President has and will do. I have
served and would proudly serve this country and President again without
question!

Brian


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I do not think that it is right for anyone in the United States to bad mouth
OUR PRESIDENT. We should stand strong as Americans. This event could start a
new war. We must know who is responiable before we go kicking ass. President
Bush is collecting information needed to make a decision on who and when
someone will pay for this event. The FBI is hot on the trail. Let wait a
little here and see what comes out of this before we start saying that the
President is a pussy face etc. We need to stand strong as a nation and that
means supporting our President. What do you think would happen if we started
bombing the wrong enemies. Just because we have not started shooting and
dropping bombs does not mean that the President is not doing he job
correctly.
Keith
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 guys, guys, dont get your panties in a bunch.if we do what we sould
do-wipe
 them
 off the f_cking map, we need to know who is responsible- without a
doubt!!!
 because there will be a lot of innocent lifes taken in our wrath. but so
be
 it...
 i am not protecting pussy faced Bush in any means, but in something like
 this we
 need to be sure who the cowards are.
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 Yeah and who is the great leader, it can't be Bush he hasn't done
anything
 yet!

 Brian

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 Somehow I just can't see New York as the City of God...

 Dale


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  In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two

 brothers torn
  apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader

 will
  succumb. The third big war will begin when the big city is

 burning
 - Nostradamus circa 1654
 
  Scary, eh? 
 
 So are the twin towers the TWo Brothers? Seems a reach.
 
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RE: [Chevelle-List] '65 Chevelles

2001-09-13 Thread Kelly Hanna


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Plz keep your opinions short as I have too much E-Mail  concerning
  the attacks on this list.

As with most off topic posts...the posts that complain about the off topic 
posts usually take up more space in the inbox than the original offending 
posts. I suggest the delete key be the operative solutionI use it quite 
frequently


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Re: [Chevelle-List] '65 Chevelles

2001-09-13 Thread wrench


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 Hey Tom , Do you have the right club? Don't see his name anywhere on the
members car list.Wrench

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Robert B. King


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Judging by the last dozen or so posts, it looks like we may have a few sick
puppies here.  Makes me feel right at home!

Bob


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Be sure to make sure to rip off the towels from their heads so they don't
get
wrapped up around the driveshaft.

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Re: [Chevelle-List] ENGINE

2001-09-13 Thread Larry Fisher


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That engine was one of Chevy's real screamers. You have something special if
that's what it is.
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 Sorry for my ignaorance, but why is it infamous?

 Gellert
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  Check that motor for a DZ stamped somewhere on it!  That is the same
 casting
  number used to the infamous 302 DZ  put in 69 Z28 Camaros.
 
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[Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus update

2001-09-13 Thread Michael Taylor


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I KNOW, I KNOW this subject should be dead but I just heard that the World Trade 
Center was built by the Rockerfellers (which one I'm not sure) but he named (or 
dedicated) each tower after his two sons! One named David and I'm not sure what the 
other brothers name was. Heard it on TV - gotta be true!?

God Bless America!
Michael



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 In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn
 apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will
 succumb. The third big war will begin when the big city is burning
- Nostradamus circa 1654
 
 Scary, eh? 

So are the twin towers the TWo Brothers? Seems a reach.

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Anybody running Flowmaster mufflers behind stock exhaust manifolds and header pipes?

2001-09-13 Thread Dave Studly



Herb, 
I'd be interested in that WAV file, as I might be replacing the exhaust on both 
my cars within the next year.

Is 
anyone running Flowmaster 3-chamber mufflers? My Camino is a 
driver/cruiser, and a low, mellow sound is more important than all out 
performance. I imagine the 2-chamber mufflers might be louder than what 
I'm looking for.

-Dave, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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  LumppSent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:05 PMTo: 
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  running Flowmaster mufflers behind stock exhaust manifolds and header 
  pipes?
  Hi Jim,
  
  I have 2 chamber Flowmasters on my 76 
  Vette with the stock ram horn exhaust manifolds. I have a .wav if you 
  want to hear it.
  
  cYa-
  
  Herb Lumpp
  
  
  
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From: 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 9:56 
PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Anybody 
running Flowmaster mufflers behind stock exhaust manifolds and header 
pipes?

Is anybody out there running Flowmaster 2-chamber or 3-chamber mufflers 
and tailpipes behind stock exhaust manifolds and header pipes? 


After taking a detour last week to order a new gas tank  the 
accompanying h/w, I'm back to thinking about a new exhaust system. 
When I got my new Year One catalog in the mail with my gas tank bolt shipmen 
over the weekend, I noticed that the catalog lists the stock muffler 
dimensions as 25" overall length with a 21" case length, whereas the 
Flowmaster 3-chamber dimensions are 22" overall  16" case and the 
2-chamber dimensions are 19" overall  13" case.

Given that the Flowmaster mufflers are "shorter" than stock mufflers 
and the Flowmaster tailpipes claim to be the same length and bend footprints 
as stock tailpipes, I'm wondering if I'd be able toconnect a set of 
Flowmaster mufflers and tailpipes directly tomy stock 80" header pipes 
or whether I'll need some sort of"extensions" (to get the muflers to 
sit far enough back so that the tailpipes will loop over the rear 
properly).

(I realize that a muffler shop could properly rig up something with no 
sweat, but I was hoping that I could just buy all "off-the-shelf" 
partsand be able to assemble everythingright out of the box 
without needing any special bending or welding tools).

If anybody has any experience or thoughts on this, I'd appreciate 
hearing them!

 Jim 
-no-69SS-cars-at



Re: [Chevelle-List] '65 Chevelles

2001-09-13 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
bent:
i really doubt it. did they make any other year of chevelle ?
 65 chevelle owner (Larry)



RE: [Chevelle-List] Anybody running Flowmaster mufflers behind stock exhaust manifolds and header pipes?

2001-09-13 Thread John Nasta


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I just visited a friend who has a 70 SS Chevelle w/ headers  3-chamber
Flowmasters. I though the sound was awesome. I want to put them on my 69 El
Camino, which will also be a driver/cruiser. Like you, I want a nice rumble
but nothing too loud.


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Is anyone running Flowmaster 3-chamber mufflers?  My Camino is a
driver/cruiser, and a low, mellow sound is more important than all out
performance.  I imagine the 2-chamber mufflers might be louder than what I'm
looking for.


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[Chevelle-List] Re: Nostradamus quote is a hoax

2001-09-13 Thread Michael Pell


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I just heard that the whole Nostradamus thing is a hoax.


Michael Taylor wrote:
 
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 I KNOW, I KNOW this subject should be dead but I just heard that the World Trade 
Center was built by the Rockerfellers (which one I'm not sure) but he named (or 
dedicated) each tower after his two sons! One named David and I'm not sure what the 
other brothers name was. Heard it on TV - gotta be true!?
 
 God Bless America!
 Michael
 
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  In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn
  apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will
  succumb. The third big war will begin when the big city is burning
 - Nostradamus circa 1654
 
  Scary, eh? 
 
 So are the twin towers the TWo Brothers? Seems a reach.
 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] ENGINE

2001-09-13 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY
Gellert:
here is a link to a Chevrolet motor numbers. It does not tell what car it came out of. a cks code that was in the numbers you send could be a 1972 350 / 255 with barrel and manual transmission z28/camaro , 1973 350/145 HP with 2 barrel and turbo transmission passenger car, or 1977 350/170 HP with 4 barrel Camaro and nova
 MorTec, Inc. GM/PERFORMANCE PARTS
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Re: [Chevelle-List] ENGINE

2001-09-13 Thread Sixty7SS396
I have a 3970010 engine and the numbers I came up with show it as once being an ememic 350 with 170 ponies from the gas war ear of 1973. It had since been improved (but not by much) before I got it. 

Bob
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85 El Camino
95 Camaro


Re: [Chevelle-List] Venting

2001-09-13 Thread Don



I agree, very well said.
Don

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  At 07:59 AM 09/13/2001, you wrote:
  To all,I will 
apologize in advance for my rantings.No apology 
  necessaryvery well said.
  The Hannas2 Elks Ranch 



Re: [Chevelle-List] Bedeveling

2001-09-13 Thread Kelly Hanna


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At 08:56 PM 09/13/2001, you wrote:

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Check this out and tell me if you guys see it

http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily_news/2001/09/13/local/DEVI13C.htm

I followed that link earlier too. Saw it plain as day, but when I watched 
it live (all day) the face never appeared...remember the face and 
city on Mars?


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[Chevelle-List] FW: TH350 or TH200-4R

2001-09-13 Thread Chad Goll \(Home\)


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I need some advice...I have a 1965 Chevelle malibuSS Convertible327
PG..2.73 rear endI am planning to rebuild the engine from near stock to
somewhere around 325-350 HP.first the Tranny.

I need some advice, tips, answers, stories about which is the better choice.
I want a tranny with some good low end power but still be able to highway
cruise.  What is the better choice TH350 or Th200-4R?


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Bedeveling

2001-09-13 Thread JeffK


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You can make lots of images if you slow down the video enough. You
can do that with clouds in the sky also.

JeffK  ACES #1510
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 Check this out and tell me if you guys see it


http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily_news/2001/09/13/local/DEVI13C.htm

 Tom

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RE: [Chevelle-List] TH350 or TH200-4R

2001-09-13 Thread Chad Goll \(Home\)


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I am running 26.5in tires..what should I run for rear-end gears.

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We have been through this many times.  Go with the TH350.  The 200 4R is a
POS.  I blew one to pieces with a stock 307 Olds w/140 HP.  The TH350 is
cheaper to build and a whole lot stronger.  It will handle any mildly built
small block you can throw at it.  I put a TH350 in my 86 Cutlass and never
had a problem with it with the 307 or the 350 horse 350 I dumped in it.

Tom

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Re: [Chevelle-List] TH350 or TH200-4R

2001-09-13 Thread MICRLASER


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We have been through this many times.  Go with the TH350.  The 200 4R is a 
POS.  I blew one to pieces with a stock 307 Olds w/140 HP.  The TH350 is 
cheaper to build and a whole lot stronger.  It will handle any mildly built 
small block you can throw at it.  I put a TH350 in my 86 Cutlass and never 
had a problem with it with the 307 or the 350 horse 350 I dumped in it.

Tom

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[Chevelle-List] TH350 or TH200-4R

2001-09-13 Thread Chad Goll \(Home\)


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I need some advice...I have a 1965 Chevelle malibuSS Convertible327
PG..2.73 rear endI am planning to rebuild the engine from near staock to
somewjere around 325-350 HP.first the Tranny.

I need some advice, tips, answers, stories about which is the better choice.
I want something with some good low end powre but still be able to highway
cruise.


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Bedeveling

2001-09-13 Thread MICRLASER


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I just thought it was something else to share.

Tom

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