Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Slate1994
hey john i wish would keep opinion to yourself and file this under bull shit, because that's what it is bull, bush is a drunk a war monger and a greedy oil miser, this man should be tar and feathered right out of the white house, Kerry fought for this nation when bush sat on his drunk ass and would not bother to show up for the guards, his daddy save his butt, then and now pull his strings. bush has killed more innocent people then bin laden did, in the name of what i don't know, more then likely its the oil, he couldn't drill the in Alaska so he went and made up all this bullshit, just so he could steal the Iraq's people oil, if you would read between the lines and see what is really going on then you would not waste my time responding to this letter, if bush steal this election like he did before this nation will be crushed by our enemies, there only one reason why we haven't been attack, because they seen how the country rally behind bush, after the last hit and they don't want bush in the white anymore then i do, bush let the entire bin laden family fly home after the 911 hit, when there wasn't a plane in the sky that family had permission from bush to leave without being question one bit that alone proves he is in bed with the Saudi family, and by the way 19 of the hijackers where from Saudi Arabia, IM tired of typing, I can bash bush all night but this is hardly the place, so sorry to all the other people who gets this list, and to you dude eat crap.. Jim


Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread KEVIN DUGAN
I just can't wait until the election is over.
--- Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some people will believe anything just because it is
 written in a newspaper. 
 It's a shame so many Americans are unwilling  to
 think for themselves. We 
 will all be in a sorry state if Kerry is elected.
 Would you like for your 
 son to marry another man? He would not only be able
 to, but would also be 
 encouraged to by the laws the Dems will push for.
 Nuff said
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines
 fate of nation
 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 03:18:22 EDT
 
 hey john i wish would keep opinion to yourself and
 file this under bull 
 shit,
 because that's what it is bull,  bush is a drunk a
 war monger and a greedy
 oil miser, this man should be tar and feathered
 right out of the white 
 house,
 Kerry fought for this nation when bush sat on his
 drunk ass and would not 
 bother
 to show up for the guards, his daddy  save his
 butt, then and now pull his
 strings. bush has killed more innocent people then
 bin laden did, in the 
 name of
 what i don't know,  more then likely its the oil,
 he couldn't drill the in
 Alaska so he went and made up all this bullshit,
 just so he could steal the
 Iraq's people oil,  if you would read between the
 lines and see what is 
 really
 going on then you would not waste my time
 responding to this letter, if 
 bush
 steal this election like he did before this nation
 will be crushed by our 
 enemies,
 there only one reason why we haven't been attack,
 because they seen how the
 country rally behind bush, after the last hit and
 they don't want bush in 
 the
 white anymore then i do,  bush let the entire bin
 laden family fly home 
 after
 the 911 hit, when there wasn't a plane in the sky
 that family had 
 permission
 from bush to leave without being question one bit
 that alone proves he is 
 in bed
 with the Saudi family, and by the way 19 of the
 hijackers where from Saudi
 Arabia, IM tired of typing, I can bash bush all
 night but this is hardly 
 the
 place, so sorry to all the other people who gets
 this list,  and to you 
 dude eat
 crap..  Jim
 

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread FishermanRick43


AMEN TO THAT !

 Rick


Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Mike Holleman
This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had politics
in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
elsewhere.
Mike Holleman
- Original Message - 
From: D.R. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election


 I am going to make a comment that points out a difference between the
 two major presidential candidates.  I am not trying to tell anyone how
 to vote or start an argument.

 It appears that President Bush is more favorable towards our hobby/love
 of the old cars.  I read a New Mexico newspaper article that had Kerry
 saying that in one of the steps to having clean air, all older vehicles
 must be taken off the highways.  Also stated that diesels must become
 cleaner.

 Now granted this was a sidebar in a newspaper that I just happened to
 pick up and read while traveling thru New Mexico and did not directly
 point out our cars.  However, what else would he be talking about?  I
 haven't read or heard Bush mention anything of this nature, all I have
 heard him say that he is for clean air with no other details to go along
 with his statement.

 Just reading between the lines and after reading 'Unfit To Command' I
 believe I know who I won't vote for, as I want to keep my cars.  I
 believe I will build another one.

 D.R. Jones





RE: [Chevelle-list] heat = smoke (69 El Camino)

2004-10-23 Thread John Nasta








Thanks everybody
who replied. I have been so swamped that I havent had time to write back. I do
think it's steam from the heater core. It was a chilly, rainy night when I noticed
it. I had used the defroster a week earlier and was surprised at how it didn't
seem to clear the windshield very well. It probably was throwing more moisture
onto it. that night was not cold or rainy but the windshield had condensation
on it from sitting all day with the windows closed. I will try it again on a
less damp occasion and see if it still appears to be smoke. I dont
think it was electrical because there was no smell of plastic and also because
there is no electrical connection involved in opening or closing the heat flapper
door. Also, the smoke was coming out of the vents.



Does
anybody know the procedure off-hand for changing the heater core? Should I also
replace the blower motor while I'm at it? Right now I don't even know if the motor
is just not hooked up or if it's totally dead. There are 2 wires on my front
harness that I never did figure out what they are for.



Thanks,

John Nasta







-Original
Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004
2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] heat
= smoke (69 El Camino)



Probly
should have the heater core checked. The situation sounds familiar. When me and
my brother were leaving school in the 1990 Caprice that my parents used to own
he put on the heat. It was the middle of winter. He noticed stuff, almost like
snow, coming out of the vents. It left a film on the window. Turned out that
the heater core was cracked. Think you might want to have it looked at.








Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Michael Pell
It would be nice to know exactly where you read this comment of
Kerry's, and exactly what he said.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what, when, or where he said it.  He'll have
a different stand at the next place and time
The only thing he's stuck with consistently is that he wants a bigger more
expensive govt to suck away our rights and money.



Dennis Kiernan wrote:

 D.R. Jones wrote:

  . .  I read a New Mexico newspaper article that had Kerry
  saying that in one of the steps to having clean air, all older vehicles
  must be taken off the highways.

  Just reading between the lines and after reading 'Unfit To Command' I
  believe I know who I won't vote for, as I want to keep my cars.  I
  believe I will build another one.

 It would be nice to know exactly where you read this comment of
 Kerry's, and exactly what he said.

 Assuming, tho, that he really did say in effect that he would like
 to outlaw my old Chevy (which I plan to drive for the next 30
 years), then it comes down to the very hard choice of whether to put
 one issue you care a lot about above a lot of maybe more important issues.

 I, for one, also dont like the usual Democrat's anti-tobacco and
 anti-gun position. But there is no way I could ever bring myself to
 vote for a complete phony like Bush. Or a nincompoop like
 Schvartzenegger in my state.







[Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 26

2004-10-23 Thread PoSTaL
Some people will believe anything just because it is written in a 
newspaper.
It's a shame so many Americans are unwilling  to think for themselves. 
We
will all be in a sorry state if Kerry is elected. Would you like for 
your
son to marry another man? He would not only be able to, but would also 
be
encouraged to by the laws the Dems will push for. Nuff said

that has to be the stupidist thing i've read in this forum!  both sides are 
against same sex marriages dumbass.  kerry's side is just for letting them 
have equal benefits when they have been in a long standing relationship.  i 
for one dont like either one but when it comes down to it i wont let bush 
send more of my friends over to iraq and die for his bullshit.  iraq was no 
more a threat to us then mexico is now.  the only weapon they had that could 
carry a decent warhead was a scud that could only travel 500 miles at most. 
kerry will not get rid of our old cars, and he will not ban guns like all 
the rednecked nra members would like to try and make you believe.  now this 
is not the place to be posting politics but when you spew shit like that i 
have to respond.

J.R.
65 SS Chevelle #'s
79 SS El Camino customized



Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Dennis Kiernan


Brian Knight wrote:
 
 Some people will believe anything just because it is written in a newspaper.
 It's a shame so many Americans are unwilling  to think for themselves. We
 will all be in a sorry state if Kerry is elected. Would you like for your
 son to marry another man? He would not only be able to, but would also be
 encouraged to by the laws the Dems will push for. Nuff said

You're willing to get into another Viet Nam in the Middle East, as
long as the gvmt keeps your son from marrying another man?

If you think there's a problem with your son, I'd say it's a matter
between you and him.



Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Dennis Kiernan

If our reason for being in Iraq is not to find weapons of mass
destruction, or find the ones responsible for 9-11, and of course
not to get control of the oil fields, but to introduce democracy to
Iraq, how is that different from the Chinese wanting to bring 
Communism to South Korea in 1950, or the Russians wanting to do the
same in Cuba?



Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election and Chevelle dash

2004-10-23 Thread mark fellman
On Oct 23, 2004, at 10:48 AM, Michael Pell wrote:
It would be nice to know exactly where you read this comment of
Kerry's, and exactly what he said.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what, when, or where he said it.  
He'll have
a different stand at the next place and time
The only thing he's stuck with consistently is that he wants a bigger 
more
expensive govt to suck away our rights and money.

I don't care if someone changes their opinion admitting they were 
wrong.  That shows a sense of reason.  But, to blindly plod along, 
saying you are right, when everyone on the planet knows you are wrong, 
is just blind.  Especially, when people are facing death.

How does the rest of the world look at us when contracts to rebuild 
Iraq are given to our leaders companies without any consideration to 
other companies in other countries?  The corruption in the White House 
is rampant and must be stopped.  I don't understand how anyone can 
support Bush's tax breaks to his rich friends while the poor are 
shipped off to die in Iraq, supporting his rich friends companies.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Now, my SS dash is cracked over the steering column and I had it 
restored, but it's still cracked.  The guys say that once the dash is 
installed, it will be more stable and then they will repair it.  I 
don't see how they will be able to do this without wrecking the plastic 
covering the gauges.  Does this make any sense?

Thanks,
Mark
71 SS convertible



Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Dennis Kiernan


Mike Holleman wrote:
 
 This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had politics
 in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
 elsewhere.

You dont think that a proposal to outlaw Chevelles is a proper
subject for this list?

   I read a New Mexico newspaper article that had Kerry
  saying that in one of the steps to having clean air, all older vehicles
  must be taken off the highways.



Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread 65ss.com
Please kill this thread before the whole list leaves.  




RE: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Dave Studly

While I'd love to post some comments pertaining to this discussion, Mike is
absolutely right.  This is NOT the place to discuss politics, beyond
anti-clunker bills, pollution issues, etc.

-Dave


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 9:02 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election


This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had politics
in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
elsewhere.
Mike Holleman


- Original Message -
From: D.R. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election


 I am going to make a comment that points out a difference between the
 two major presidential candidates.  I am not trying to tell anyone how
 to vote or start an argument.

 It appears that President Bush is more favorable towards our hobby/love
 of the old cars.  I read a New Mexico newspaper article that had Kerry
 saying that in one of the steps to having clean air, all older vehicles
 must be taken off the highways.  Also stated that diesels must become
 cleaner.

 Now granted this was a sidebar in a newspaper that I just happened to
 pick up and read while traveling thru New Mexico and did not directly
 point out our cars.  However, what else would he be talking about?  I
 haven't read or heard Bush mention anything of this nature, all I have
 heard him say that he is for clean air with no other details to go along
 with his statement.

 Just reading between the lines and after reading 'Unfit To Command' I
 believe I know who I won't vote for, as I want to keep my cars.  I
 believe I will build another one.

 D.R. Jones







Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Brian Knight
My son is 3 so that was figurative. As for another Vietnam, please remind 
me, when did they kill over 3,000  Americans on our own soil? And, yes, I 
have and will fight for the lives of my fellow Americans regardless of thier 
beliefs.

From: Dennis Kiernan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Chevelle Mailing List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:08:05 -0700


Brian Knight wrote:

 Some people will believe anything just because it is written in a 
newspaper.
 It's a shame so many Americans are unwilling  to think for themselves. 
We
 will all be in a sorry state if Kerry is elected. Would you like for 
your
 son to marry another man? He would not only be able to, but would also 
be
 encouraged to by the laws the Dems will push for. Nuff said

You're willing to get into another Viet Nam in the Middle East, as
long as the gvmt keeps your son from marrying another man?
If you think there's a problem with your son, I'd say it's a matter
between you and him.
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Capt Crunch
I agree 100%. What ever happened to not discussing politics, religion, and 
sex in public? Vote however you want to vote... just be sure you vote. We 
all have different backgrounds in life dispite all being brought together 
through our love and ownership of chevelles, so it is natural that we have 
different political adgendas. But like Mike and some others have stated... 
keep your political opinion to yourself. Nothing anyone says at this point 
is gonna change my vote and I think that 99% of the people on the list are 
the same way... so save your keyboard. Thanks

Mike Ryan


From: Mike Holleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:01:47 -0400
This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had politics
in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
elsewhere.
Mike Holleman




Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Dave Corgill


At 12:26 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
The president doesn't run America big Money does, it's been
that way forever (more so in the last 10 yrs).
The President is just a Puppet  voting is just a show
to
make people Think they have a say. Voting is ok in City/State

things (so far). Ever wonder why you only have 2 choices? 
Bush  Kerry say they will help people with health ins, BS
BIG Money in the Insurance industry, notice how they get everything
they want? It's not the president it's the big companies that run
America. So how do they do that? Ever seen a poor congressman or
President? 
Life time money  health care  if they lose an election a
Gravy
job with a guess what A Big Company.
How come NAFTA was a good deal when many people in the USA lost
their jobs, but when it came to being able to get your drugs from
Mexico or Canada it was changed. Wonder why?
Vote for Chevelle for president anything else is a playing in the
Puppet show.



[Chevelle-list] for sale 64 A-body skylark

2004-10-23 Thread BIG_DOGG
I have my 64 skylark for sale it was 2200 now 1800 I really need to get eid of it because I am moving.
runs and drives great body good interior blk,ex is off white. it had a little surface rust but I used POR 15 on it .. the floors are perfict no rust at all.
I also have sbc motor mounts for an A body for sale 50$
will add to skylark if ya want to but a sbc in it.

I live in WA st tacoma
later


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RE: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Dale
Funny how before we went into Iraq, everyone was saying Saddam would nuke
our troops or fire chemical weapons at them.  Oh the doomsayers.  Now, when
apparently no WMD have been unearthed, Bush is a jerk.  I imagine Bush the
elder was a jerk for waiting until Saddam invaded Kuwait too.

A lot of UN officials and UN member countries were getting rich off the
*sanctions* on Iraq due to black market and kickbacks.

I'm not enthused with the war, I don't think anybody in their right mind is.
After bringing down troop levels AGAIN after the Gulf War and with no peace
strategy, it's been a mess.

Received this the other day from my new daughter-in-law:


A speech that should be delivered
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR GEORGE W. BUSH OR JOHN KERRY
GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH? 

My Fellow Americans: 
As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has been completed. Since
congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in
Iraq is complete. 

This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces
from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now to begin
the reckoning. 

Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which
have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The
United Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the
countries listed there. 

The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world's
nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of
both lists later this evening. 

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those
nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved
during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraq
war. 

The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world
Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption. 

Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France. 

In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money
toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home. 

On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Fool with us and we will
hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the
earth. Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or may be
China. 

To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Yo, boys. Work out a peace deal
now. Just note that Camp David is closed. Maybe all of you can go to Russia
for negotiations. They have some great palaces there. Big tables, too.  I am
ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France,
Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring
from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis. 

I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN
diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking
tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and
crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps
have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or
watch your precious Benzes, Bimmers, and limos be turned over to some of the
finest chop shops in the world. I love New York. 

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to
be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not making
us mad for a change. Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire
corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple
extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to
put em? Yep, border security. 

So start doing something with your oil. Oh, by the way, the United States is
abrogating the NAFTA treaty ---starting now. 

We are tired of the one-way highway. 

It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens.
Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, darn-tootin.


Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world
has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet.
It is time to eliminate hunger in America. It is time to eliminate
homelessness in America. It is time to eliminate World Cup Soccer from
America. 

To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you and we
won't forget.  

God bless America. 
Thank you and good night. 

If you can read this, thank a teacher.  If you are reading it in English,
thank a soldier. MAKES YOU JUST WANT TO STAND UP AND CHEER!!!  

Dale




Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread TronDD
You folks do know that Bush and Kerry are not the only choices, right?
Dennis Kiernan wrote:
I, for one, also dont like the usual Democrat's anti-tobacco and
anti-gun position. But there is no way I could ever bring myself to
vote for a complete phony like Bush. Or a nincompoop like
Schvartzenegger in my state.




Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Wayne
Well said.. Where dose it say in the constitution.that it's our duty to 
Spread Democracy to the World ???

to  invade a sovereign country just because it had WMD.. ahhh... no 
..because it had ties to 911 ah no,,,aahh because it has ties  to 
ahh Al-kida (SP) ahhh no... because it harbored terrorists. ( so do 62 
other countries) a no... Well then let's be  patriotic and  spread 
Democracy and if you don't agree with  that your  not an American and un 
patriotic...?

Vote for whom ever you prefer ... just VOTE... .
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Kiernan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation


If our reason for being in Iraq is not to find weapons of mass
destruction, or find the ones responsible for 9-11, and of course
not to get control of the oil fields, but to introduce democracy to
Iraq, how is that different from the Chinese wanting to bring
Communism to South Korea in 1950, or the Russians wanting to do the
same in Cuba?




Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Wayne
this is like the one when I was a lad.. that if JFK was elected.. the Pope 
will be living in the whit house and a new law that we must eat Fish every 
Friday !!!

Well hears a new one;; if bush wins and his oil buddies prevail..  Gas will 
be 6 dollars a gallon.. so we won't be driving our Chevelles that much 
anyway..

Wayne
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Kiernan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election



Mike Holleman wrote:
This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had 
politics
in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
elsewhere.
You dont think that a proposal to outlaw Chevelles is a proper
subject for this list?
  I read a New Mexico newspaper article that had Kerry
 saying that in one of the steps to having clean air, all older vehicles
 must be taken off the highways.





Re: Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread steve502
Well this is related to our hobby.  I know many people think that Bush is in the 
Saudi's pockets and willing to let gas go higher and higher, but I wanted to point out 
a fact that can be verified through congressional records.  John Kerry has voted to 
raise taxes on gas 11 times.  This includes the 50 cent per gallon tax voted for in 
Febuary or March of 1994.

I also think that everyone should turn the spin off and vote for whoever they want 
after picking the topics that are important to them and then spending a while 
conducting research on facts rather than watching slanted news/ comentary/ 
documentaries/ concerts/ or movies.  I don't think any choice will be perfect, but 
there is a good arguement that this election will have a lasting impact on the future 
of our country and our hobby.  The winner of this election will be appointing judges 
at various levels and making important decisions regarding every aspect of our lives 
(including jobs, pay, insurance, healthcare, social welfare- and who is going to pay 
for it).  I pray that the best man wins and I can continue enjoying life with my 
family and my Chevelle without the fear of terror or anything else that restricts my 
way of life.  

Please cut the negativity and vote responsibly.

PSand get back to Chevelles
 
 From: Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/10/23 Sat PM 06:14:33 EDT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
   The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election
 
 this is like the one when I was a lad.. that if JFK was elected.. the Pope 
 will be living in the whit house and a new law that we must eat Fish every 
 Friday !!!
 
 Well hears a new one;; if bush wins and his oil buddies prevail..  Gas will 
 be 6 dollars a gallon.. so we won't be driving our Chevelles that much 
 anyway..
 
 Wayne
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dennis Kiernan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election
 
 
 
 
  Mike Holleman wrote:
 
  This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had 
  politics
  in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
  elsewhere.
 
  You dont think that a proposal to outlaw Chevelles is a proper
  subject for this list?
 
I read a New Mexico newspaper article that had Kerry
   saying that in one of the steps to having clean air, all older vehicles
   must be taken off the highways.
  
 
 
 
 




Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Bill Lessenberry
At 08:01 AM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had politics
in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
elsewhere.
Mike Holleman
THANK YOU for saying exactly the way I feel.  Let's all BS about cars, not 
BS.  :-)))

BL 




Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Bill Lessenberry
Remember Friday when everyone was asking whether the list was down, no 
emails etc???  I guess this deal filled up your boxes huh?  :-)))

BL



Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY

YEAH CAN WE GO BACK TO SILENCE?


[Chevelle-list] Car vitamins

2004-10-23 Thread Dennis Kiernan

Has anyone got any opinions on the value of using any of the following?

Lucas HD Oil Stabilizer. In engine in place of one quart of regular oil.

Lucas Octane Booster. In gas tank.

Guaranteed to Pass something-or-other. Put in the tank and run
prior to getting a smog test. Someone here recently recommended
this, and all three of these are recommended by a  mechanic I know.

What say ye, O Wise Ones?

DK
SF



Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread HmPlate33
That's what I love about the USA.  The free exchange of opinions...without 
the fear of incarceration!  Meanwhile, during a halfheimers (not yet alzheimers) 
moment I either tossed or lost the  upper bolts that attach the caliper 
bracket to the spindle (72 disk variety)   Anyone know the dimensions of this 
hardware?

Neal S.



Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Dennis Kiernan


Bill Lessenberry wrote:
 
 At 08:01 AM 10/23/2004, you wrote:
 This is a Chevelle list. This is the one place that I have not had politics
 in my face over the last few months. Please post your opinions/comments
 elsewhere.
 Mike Holleman
 
 THANK YOU for saying exactly the way I feel.  Let's all BS about cars, not
 BS.  :-)))

I share your feelings about getting into impossible-to-resolve
political harangues, especially when people take the opportunity to
throw in their fears of same-sex marriage, etc.

However, some car issues are inevitably political. Eg, I've got to
get my car smogged this year and it's going to cost me about $80 for
starters, just to have it tested at a special test-only station.
Then, there's gas prices -- about $2.50 a gallon for regular in San
Francisco. Bush has been in power for four years now, and we're
supposed to be taking over Iraq, so why are gas prices climbing so fast?

Of course, it would be nice if any opinions on these car-related
facts of life could be presented objectively and dispassionately,
without getting into one's personal feelings about religion, sex,
machismo, etc.



Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Bill Lessenberry

Then, there's gas prices -- about $2.50 a gallon for regular in San
Francisco. Bush has been in power for four years now, and we're
supposed to be taking over Iraq, so why are gas prices climbing so fast?
Ok, this is pretty dispassionate--1.  California's (and other 
non-conforming areas) speciality fuels are always going to cost more-blame 
the EPA and the Clean Air Act and your local government.  The most 
expensive gas here (central Arkansas) is $2.16 for 93 octane  you can find 
87 octane for as little as $1.73.  2.  Nigeria-I don't think any American 
had anything to do with the mess there.  3.  Hurricanes  tropical storms-3 
of them in the Gulf.  Disrupted the output of the rigs, and the pipelines 
will need repairs.   Any supply interruptions are going to drive the price 
up, and when you have 3 or 4 at once, the markets really skyrocket.  When 
(and if) the supply lines begin to fill up again we will see a drop in 
prices.  Check your history, this has been happening for years.

I hope this was OK with ya'll.
BL   




Re: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Slate1994
 are you looking in a mirror when you type this shit its you who is believing everything you read, bush cannot communicate his own idea, he can only read a speech that someone else wrote and only after he crammed it in to his dead brain, i watch the debates, bush is a moron, my 90 year grandmother thinks better and faster then him, he's admit to being a alcoholic you only come to that self diagnose after your brain is damage, and this is the guy that carry the football, and cheniey is just a yes man, to any man that will hire him, and if he had to run with the football he would croak, and the part about your son marrying another man, if you had a son which i don't think you do you,as a fatheryou would want him to be happy no matter what gender turn his crank. and finally without the dems we would have no social security, would have no man on the moon, i can go on , you reblicans are piggs pure and simple, you take know responabilty for your actions, jim and yes i sign it 


Re: [Chevelle-list] Comment Pertaining To Election

2004-10-23 Thread Slate1994
hey neal i did the same thing, they sell them now at opg, i took off the bolt from a manual brake car which has the same tread size and went dont to the local fastners outlet and match it up with one of there's i thought the head might tough the rotor, and i would have to grind off some of the head but it turn out the clearence was ok the bolts cost 35 cents a piece ,,,opg i think where 4 buck but its the correct one later gl,,, jim


Re: [Chevelle-list] heat = smoke (69 El Camino)

2004-10-23 Thread Slate1994
hey john have done this many times , the fender skirts has to come out, the glove box and the door, have to come out, its easier to remove the control from the dash then to remove the cables, might what to think about that, the rest is straight forward with some fastners under the hood and under the dash, its not a very fun thing to do just take your time and dont try force if done right should fall out, you might not have to remove the skirt, depends on weather a/c or none, but the glove box has door have to be rmove in order to get to the mounts ,,, gl its about 3 hours if you know your way around the car, , personal for energic person like myself and as many times i have done it ,,, 90 minutes i like to take my time on a show car,,


RE: [Chevelle-list] Election determines fate of nation

2004-10-23 Thread Dale






















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 its you who is
believing everything you read,

Only when its intelligent enough to
read.





 cheniey

Who?



 without the dems we
would have no social security, 

There is no *real* social security fund anywayread up on it.
Do you really think theres a bank account somewhere with all this money
in it?



 you reblicans are
piggs pure and simple, you take know responabilty for your actions, jim and yes
i sign it 

Not sure but are you trying to type in
English? 



This whole diatribe looks like a product
of a good old Democratic education. Lighten up a bit. Spirited
conversation is a healthy thing but not when it comes to name calling and
getting so frustrated you cant spell or punctuate a sentence.



Dale McIntosh