[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Such a system does not help when people sync your change. We should invest the effort we would expend building this system fixing the dependency issues. gclient could be made to obey it as well. But I agree, it's a hack. Barring that, we have a hack that we do where for resource files we make a whitespace change to the corresponding .gyp. We could automate this by having a presubmit check that enforces this. Better than nothing. We also have the hack for grd files that deletes all the associated .h files. Something like that might work here as well. How hard would it be to make the system actually understand the dependencies? Is visual studio really just too dumb to understand? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
We currently have a hack of sorts in mind (well an issue filed on gyp) that would cover a larger class of settings changes (the worst handled by vstudio directly). The idea is to have gyp generate a text file full of settings garp which would be an additional dependency of each project. There are of course other dependency flaws (sgk is working on a long running validation build that would look for missing links in the chain) that are just due to mistakes in the gyp files. I would be curious which kind of dependency issue these latest ones were (can someone point me at the CLs?, been on nacl/o3d buildbot stuff of late). -BradN On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Such a system does not help when people sync your change. We should invest the effort we would expend building this system fixing the dependency issues. gclient could be made to obey it as well. But I agree, it's a hack. Barring that, we have a hack that we do where for resource files we make a whitespace change to the corresponding .gyp. We could automate this by having a presubmit check that enforces this. Better than nothing. We also have the hack for grd files that deletes all the associated .h files. Something like that might work here as well. How hard would it be to make the system actually understand the dependencies? Is visual studio really just too dumb to understand? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
They were both WebKit deps rolls. The latter one was caused by an .idl file that changed. The former, I don't know off the top of my head. Here's the chromium review: http://codereview.chromium.org/165278 Here are the files that changed: http://trac.webkit.org/changeset?new=47...@trunkold=46...@trunk Here's the error visual studio gave: DerivedSourcesAllInOne.cpp C:\b\slave\win\build\src\chrome\Debug\obj\webcore\bindings/V8Document.cpp(1003) : error C2039: 'v8ElementEventHandlerAccessorGetter' : is not a member of 'WebCore::V8Custom' C:\b\slave\win\build\src\third_party\WebKit\WebCore\bindings\v8\custom\V8CustomBinding.h(94) : see declaration of 'WebCore::V8Custom' On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Bradley Nelson bradnel...@google.comwrote: We currently have a hack of sorts in mind (well an issue filed on gyp) that would cover a larger class of settings changes (the worst handled by vstudio directly). The idea is to have gyp generate a text file full of settings garp which would be an additional dependency of each project. There are of course other dependency flaws (sgk is working on a long running validation build that would look for missing links in the chain) that are just due to mistakes in the gyp files. I would be curious which kind of dependency issue these latest ones were (can someone point me at the CLs?, been on nacl/o3d buildbot stuff of late). -BradN On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.orgwrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Such a system does not help when people sync your change. We should invest the effort we would expend building this system fixing the dependency issues. gclient could be made to obey it as well. But I agree, it's a hack. Barring that, we have a hack that we do where for resource files we make a whitespace change to the corresponding .gyp. We could automate this by having a presubmit check that enforces this. Better than nothing. We also have the hack for grd files that deletes all the associated .h files. Something like that might work here as well. How hard would it be to make the system actually understand the dependencies? Is visual studio really just too dumb to understand? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
I agree. Every clobber means we have a dependency bug. I would prefer that we track and fix those bugs than get desensitized to them. --Amanda On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Such a system does not help when people sync your change. We should invest the effort we would expend building this system fixing the dependency issues. Barring that, we have a hack that we do where for resource files we make a whitespace change to the corresponding .gyp. We could automate this by having a presubmit check that enforces this. - a On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: We really need a better way to submit patches that we know require a clobber. Today alone, there were 2 WebKit deps rolls that we _knew_ would need a clobber. Both ended up closing the tree for a bit. What if we added an optional flag to the CL descriptions that tells the bots that a clobber is necessary? Maybe just CLOBBER=blah where blah is the platforms that require it split by commas and/or spaces? So, for example, my CL might look like: This is a really nice CL, but it touches files that confuse the dependency tracking system on Windows and linux. TEST=none BUG=none CLOBBER=win, linux Would this be terribly hard? Any major downsides? J -- Portability is generally the result of advance planning rather than trench warfare involving #ifdef -- Henry Spencer (1992) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
Knowing MS, it could be the forward slash (/) that is breaking the dependency scanner. M-A On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: They were both WebKit deps rolls. The latter one was caused by an .idl file that changed. The former, I don't know off the top of my head. Here's the chromium review: http://codereview.chromium.org/165278 Here are the files that changed: http://trac.webkit.org/changeset?new=47...@trunkold=46...@trunk Here's the error visual studio gave: DerivedSourcesAllInOne.cpp C:\b\slave\win\build\src\chrome\Debug\obj\webcore\bindings/V8Document.cpp(1003) : error C2039: 'v8ElementEventHandlerAccessorGetter' : is not a member of 'WebCore::V8Custom' C:\b\slave\win\build\src\third_party\WebKit\WebCore\bindings\v8\custom\V8CustomBinding.h(94) : see declaration of 'WebCore::V8Custom' On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Bradley Nelson bradnel...@google.com wrote: We currently have a hack of sorts in mind (well an issue filed on gyp) that would cover a larger class of settings changes (the worst handled by vstudio directly). The idea is to have gyp generate a text file full of settings garp which would be an additional dependency of each project. There are of course other dependency flaws (sgk is working on a long running validation build that would look for missing links in the chain) that are just due to mistakes in the gyp files. I would be curious which kind of dependency issue these latest ones were (can someone point me at the CLs?, been on nacl/o3d buildbot stuff of late). -BradN On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Such a system does not help when people sync your change. We should invest the effort we would expend building this system fixing the dependency issues. gclient could be made to obey it as well. But I agree, it's a hack. Barring that, we have a hack that we do where for resource files we make a whitespace change to the corresponding .gyp. We could automate this by having a presubmit check that enforces this. Better than nothing. We also have the hack for grd files that deletes all the associated .h files. Something like that might work here as well. How hard would it be to make the system actually understand the dependencies? Is visual studio really just too dumb to understand? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
The culprit here was the change to the CodeGeneratorV8.pm. It looks like we should somehow trigger clobber of of rule_binding.py when that happens. :DG On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: They were both WebKit deps rolls. The latter one was caused by an .idl file that changed. The former, I don't know off the top of my head. Here's the chromium review: http://codereview.chromium.org/165278 Here are the files that changed: http://trac.webkit.org/changeset?new=47...@trunkold=46...@trunk Here's the error visual studio gave: DerivedSourcesAllInOne.cpp C:\b\slave\win\build\src\chrome\Debug\obj\webcore\bindings/V8Document.cpp(1003) : error C2039: 'v8ElementEventHandlerAccessorGetter' : is not a member of 'WebCore::V8Custom' C:\b\slave\win\build\src\third_party\WebKit\WebCore\bindings\v8\custom\V8CustomBinding.h(94) : see declaration of 'WebCore::V8Custom' On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Bradley Nelson bradnel...@google.com wrote: We currently have a hack of sorts in mind (well an issue filed on gyp) that would cover a larger class of settings changes (the worst handled by vstudio directly). The idea is to have gyp generate a text file full of settings garp which would be an additional dependency of each project. There are of course other dependency flaws (sgk is working on a long running validation build that would look for missing links in the chain) that are just due to mistakes in the gyp files. I would be curious which kind of dependency issue these latest ones were (can someone point me at the CLs?, been on nacl/o3d buildbot stuff of late). -BradN On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Such a system does not help when people sync your change. We should invest the effort we would expend building this system fixing the dependency issues. gclient could be made to obey it as well. But I agree, it's a hack. Barring that, we have a hack that we do where for resource files we make a whitespace change to the corresponding .gyp. We could automate this by having a presubmit check that enforces this. Better than nothing. We also have the hack for grd files that deletes all the associated .h files. Something like that might work here as well. How hard would it be to make the system actually understand the dependencies? Is visual studio really just too dumb to understand? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
Never mind, that line is already complete! GENERATE_BINDINGS_SCRIPTS = \ bindings/scripts/CodeGenerator.pm \ bindings/scripts/IDLParser.pm \ bindings/scripts/IDLStructure.pm \ bindings/scripts/generate-bindings.pl \ On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Eric Seidel esei...@chromium.org wrote: IDL file tracking is part of why WebKit uses DerivedSources.make (which I assume Chromium does to? Or at least we will eventually need to if we're going to have an upstream WebKit build...) JS%.h : %.idl $(GENERATE_BINDINGS_SCRIPTS) bindings/scripts/CodeGeneratorJS.pm $(GENERATE_BINDINGS) --defines $(FEATURE_DEFINES) LANGUAGE_JAVASCRIPT --generator JS $ That line actually should depend on all of the .pm files in bindings/scripts, but generally CodeGeneratorJS.pm has been enough. -eric On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.comwrote: The culprit here was the change to the CodeGeneratorV8.pm. It looks like we should somehow trigger clobber of of rule_binding.py when that happens. :DG On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: They were both WebKit deps rolls. The latter one was caused by an .idl file that changed. The former, I don't know off the top of my head. Here's the chromium review: http://codereview.chromium.org/165278 Here are the files that changed: http://trac.webkit.org/changeset?new=47...@trunkold=46...@trunk Here's the error visual studio gave: DerivedSourcesAllInOne.cpp C:\b\slave\win\build\src\chrome\Debug\obj\webcore\bindings/V8Document.cpp(1003) : error C2039: 'v8ElementEventHandlerAccessorGetter' : is not a member of 'WebCore::V8Custom' C:\b\slave\win\build\src\third_party\WebKit\WebCore\bindings\v8\custom\V8CustomBinding.h(94) : see declaration of 'WebCore::V8Custom' On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Bradley Nelson bradnel...@google.com wrote: We currently have a hack of sorts in mind (well an issue filed on gyp) that would cover a larger class of settings changes (the worst handled by vstudio directly). The idea is to have gyp generate a text file full of settings garp which would be an additional dependency of each project. There are of course other dependency flaws (sgk is working on a long running validation build that would look for missing links in the chain) that are just due to mistakes in the gyp files. I would be curious which kind of dependency issue these latest ones were (can someone point me at the CLs?, been on nacl/o3d buildbot stuff of late). -BradN On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Such a system does not help when people sync your change. We should invest the effort we would expend building this system fixing the dependency issues. gclient could be made to obey it as well. But I agree, it's a hack. Barring that, we have a hack that we do where for resource files we make a whitespace change to the corresponding .gyp. We could automate this by having a presubmit check that enforces this. Better than nothing. We also have the hack for grd files that deletes all the associated .h files. Something like that might work here as well. How hard would it be to make the system actually understand the dependencies? Is visual studio really just too dumb to understand? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
Dimitri Glazkov wrote: The culprit here was the change to the CodeGeneratorV8.pm. It looks like we should somehow trigger clobber of of rule_binding.py when that happens. We already do. In the .idl rule in webkit.gyp, we have: 'inputs': [ '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/generate-bindings.pl', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/CodeGenerator.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/CodeGeneratorV8.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/IDLParser.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/IDLStructure.pm', ], meaning that if any of those files changes, or an .idl file changes, we'll run generate-bindings.pl again. Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Problem building chrome in windows
Hi I'm getting some linking errors as I build Chrome in VS2008: Error 19 error LNK2005: _CLSID_DestinationList already defined in browser.lib(jumplist.obj) uuid.lib Error 20 error LNK2005: _CLSID_EnumerableObjectCollection already defined in browser.lib(jumplist.obj)uuid.lib Error 21 fatal error LNK1169: one or more multiply defined symbols found C:\Users\X\Desktop\chromiumtrunk\home\chrome-svn\tarball\chromium \src\chrome\Debug\ui_tests.exe 1 etc I get about 24 error during compilation and they all look like the ones above. I found this thread http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/b0a22cfe8a593aaf which discusses the same problem however I'm not sure what I need to do to get it to compile without errors thanks in advance --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: How not to spend the day getting depot_tools, cygwin svn to play nicely...
FYI the issue should resolve itself next time you run gclient sync with cygwin svn:http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=revrevision=23035 Let me know if you run into any issues. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Andrew Scherkus scher...@chromium.orgwrote: This thread couldn't have been more appropriately timed. I ran into the Error 34 issue again checking out a fresh client :\ Never again... http://codereview.chromium.org/164281 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Jens Alfke s...@google.com wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Peter Kasting wrote: Yep. You MUST have the depot_tools svn ahead of the cygwin svn and use only that to check out Chromium. I thought we noted this somewhere... Thanks for the tip. I'm just going through this setup right now, though it sounds like I'll be OK since I installed depot_tools and checked out Chromium before I installed Cygrin. I'll update the wiki pagehttp://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code . —Jens --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Subversion tags for stable/beta/dev?
Yes, I think we can add something so each channel has a persistent URL. I'll discuss with Aaron offline. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 00:17, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Ok, sorry I got defensive. Short answer is we don't know if it can handle the load. I will add a bug to myself to investigate. Oh, I didn't think you were overly defensive... Do you have any opinion on adding the tags? I guess the cost would be that when we do new releases the release manager would have to update the tag. It sounds like a reasonable request to me. -Darin - a On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote: I totally agree. Reducing the cost of maintaining docs is very nice indeed ;-) -Darin On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: We can put a cache in front of it if needed. Actually I'd like to put something dumb and simple in front of it anyway, so we could have shorter URLs that aren't tied to viewvc. But I think having the docs be checked in and not having a separate deploy step is worth some extra complexity on the frontend. In Gears the docs being out of date, or out of sync with the various versions was an annoying problem. - a On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote: This is pretty cool, but my experience with ViewVC is that it is kind of slow. Do we know if it can handle the additional load this will generate? -Darin On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if the release managers could add a tag in Subversion for each of the stable, beta, and dev release channels. I want a ViewVC URL that I can give people that will always refer to the version of the code that is on stable (or whatever) at that moment. The reason I want to do this is because the extensions possee is checking our docs into source control, so that they can be viewed live from viewvc. They're still in progress, but you can see them starting to come together here: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html The cool thing about this approach is that when we branch releases, the docs from trunk will be branched too. So the docs for a certain release area always with the code for that release. If we had the aforementioned tags, the canonical URL for, eg, the stable extension docs could just be: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/stable/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html - a --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Subversion tags for stable/beta/dev?
Hooray, thanks Mark. - a On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Mark Larson (Google)m...@chromium.org wrote: Yes, I think we can add something so each channel has a persistent URL. I'll discuss with Aaron offline. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 00:17, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Ok, sorry I got defensive. Short answer is we don't know if it can handle the load. I will add a bug to myself to investigate. Oh, I didn't think you were overly defensive... Do you have any opinion on adding the tags? I guess the cost would be that when we do new releases the release manager would have to update the tag. It sounds like a reasonable request to me. -Darin - a On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote: I totally agree. Reducing the cost of maintaining docs is very nice indeed ;-) -Darin On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: We can put a cache in front of it if needed. Actually I'd like to put something dumb and simple in front of it anyway, so we could have shorter URLs that aren't tied to viewvc. But I think having the docs be checked in and not having a separate deploy step is worth some extra complexity on the frontend. In Gears the docs being out of date, or out of sync with the various versions was an annoying problem. - a On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote: This is pretty cool, but my experience with ViewVC is that it is kind of slow. Do we know if it can handle the additional load this will generate? -Darin On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if the release managers could add a tag in Subversion for each of the stable, beta, and dev release channels. I want a ViewVC URL that I can give people that will always refer to the version of the code that is on stable (or whatever) at that moment. The reason I want to do this is because the extensions possee is checking our docs into source control, so that they can be viewed live from viewvc. They're still in progress, but you can see them starting to come together here: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html The cool thing about this approach is that when we branch releases, the docs from trunk will be branched too. So the docs for a certain release area always with the code for that release. If we had the aforementioned tags, the canonical URL for, eg, the stable extension docs could just be: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/stable/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html - a --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] stopgap fix for flaky UI tests
We know that one source of flakiness in UI tests (and some other) is the use of Sleep(). I was wondering if we could use WaitForInputIdle() instead on Windows instead and some moral equivalent in the other platforms. I of course agree that it would be best to remove the sleeps altogether, but as an easy interim step, could this work? Has anybody looked into this? -cpu WaitForInputIdle: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms687022(VS.85).aspx --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] How to simulate a MMS message on emulator
Hi, How to simulate a MMS message on emulator? From the eclipse android plugins, I can only see 'SMS'. I don't see any MMS message. Thank you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
Even with the translation, it's difficult to understand what you're saying and asking. Chromium has a full screen feature and is open source so you could tweak it to meet your needs. Does that help? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.comwrote: Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
And are you looking to hire somebody to do the work? (That's what I seem to gather from your hourly comment.) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: Even with the translation, it's difficult to understand what you're saying and asking. Chromium has a full screen feature and is open source so you could tweak it to meet your needs. Does that help? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
Ok I think I've found it.It looks like a bug in the rule - makefile emitter which is only used for webcore. (Most gyp rules turn into custom build rules, but we added a makefile emitter option for this one because the native rules were too slow). It appears that the custom build step for the makefile didn't get any of the dependencies on the inputs (oddly the makefile itself does have them). Filing bug against gyp. Working on fix... -BradN On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Mark Mentovai m...@chromium.org wrote: Dimitri Glazkov wrote: The culprit here was the change to the CodeGeneratorV8.pm. It looks like we should somehow trigger clobber of of rule_binding.py when that happens. We already do. In the .idl rule in webkit.gyp, we have: 'inputs': [ '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/generate-bindings.pl', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/CodeGenerator.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/CodeGeneratorV8.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/IDLParser.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/IDLStructure.pm', ], meaning that if any of those files changes, or an .idl file changes, we'll run generate-bindings.pl again. Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Why does Chromium on mac have a theme switch UI in the preferences?
Just to add my two cents worth. Even though there is a full resource, I still see a need for users to be able to keep their favorites easily accessible. It;s the same philosophy of having a New Tab Page even though you can pull back your most visited sites from the bookmarks. I think it would have been cool to have a theme / look feel page that works like the NTP. It will just give you a fixed number of thumb- previews of the themes you have chosen most often or most recently, maybe with the default theme being a fixed thumb. To the bottom, it would have a link to take you to the whole gallery. You can pin themes and stop themes from showing up in the list, but it would just be a fixed amount of thumbs, instead of a big dropdown menu. Here's a rough mockup: http://gowebnow.net/chrome/images/chrome-themes-ui.png On Aug 10, 8:02 pm, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Avi Drissmana...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Incidentally, two other asks: * When installing a theme, give the user a way to switch back to the previous theme (e.g. an infobar). We currently have an option to switch back to the default theme, which is also useful, in different cases. We have a bug open on this. It requires some changes to thethemes service. I think that Avi is working on this. I am? Please assign the bug, then, because I was unaware of it. FYI, just so interested parties know the resolution, the work I was thinking of Avi was working on, but it i done now. We can now implement the undo UI, I will create a bug on myself. - a --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Clobbering
Nice!!! On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Bradley Nelson bradnel...@google.comwrote: Ok I think I've found it.It looks like a bug in the rule - makefile emitter which is only used for webcore. (Most gyp rules turn into custom build rules, but we added a makefile emitter option for this one because the native rules were too slow). It appears that the custom build step for the makefile didn't get any of the dependencies on the inputs (oddly the makefile itself does have them). Filing bug against gyp. Working on fix... -BradN On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Mark Mentovai m...@chromium.org wrote: Dimitri Glazkov wrote: The culprit here was the change to the CodeGeneratorV8.pm. It looks like we should somehow trigger clobber of of rule_binding.py when that happens. We already do. In the .idl rule in webkit.gyp, we have: 'inputs': [ '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/generate-bindings.pl', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/CodeGenerator.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/CodeGeneratorV8.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/IDLParser.pm', '../third_party/WebKit/WebCore/bindings/scripts/IDLStructure.pm', ], meaning that if any of those files changes, or an .idl file changes, we'll run generate-bindings.pl again. Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
I guess he's looking at a way to prevent the browser from going out of full screen mode. My second guess is that the last comment is just a greeting (that's all for now). On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: And are you looking to hire somebody to do the work? (That's what I seem to gather from your hourly comment.) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: Even with the translation, it's difficult to understand what you're saying and asking. Chromium has a full screen feature and is open source so you could tweak it to meet your needs. Does that help? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Chrome Trunk at 4.0
We've officially bumped Chromium to 4.0.x to reflect our code freeze point for 3.0. There is still a bit of work that needs to be done for 3.0 in terms of stability and fixes, and to that end we will be pulling changes into the 195 branch (what will become the stable release). Keep your eyes out for future updates on the beta channel. Kind Regards, Anthony Laforge Technical Program Manager Mountain View, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Why does Chromium on mac have a theme switch UI in the preferences?
I kinda like that idea, I personally don't know what directions themes is going. It seems like a hidden project that will just surprise us one day. -- Mohamed Mansour On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Meok meok...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add my two cents worth. Even though there is a full resource, I still see a need for users to be able to keep their favorites easily accessible. It;s the same philosophy of having a New Tab Page even though you can pull back your most visited sites from the bookmarks. I think it would have been cool to have a theme / look feel page that works like the NTP. It will just give you a fixed number of thumb- previews of the themes you have chosen most often or most recently, maybe with the default theme being a fixed thumb. To the bottom, it would have a link to take you to the whole gallery. You can pin themes and stop themes from showing up in the list, but it would just be a fixed amount of thumbs, instead of a big dropdown menu. Here's a rough mockup: http://gowebnow.net/chrome/images/chrome-themes-ui.png On Aug 10, 8:02 pm, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Avi Drissmana...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: Incidentally, two other asks: * When installing a theme, give the user a way to switch back to the previous theme (e.g. an infobar). We currently have an option to switch back to the default theme, which is also useful, in different cases. We have a bug open on this. It requires some changes to thethemes service. I think that Avi is working on this. I am? Please assign the bug, then, because I was unaware of it. FYI, just so interested parties know the resolution, the work I was thinking of Avi was working on, but it i done now. We can now implement the undo UI, I will create a bug on myself. - a --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
Firefox and IE has Kiosk mode, where you can go full screen all the time. iexplore -k url We currently don't have that in Chromium, the closest we have is Application Mode. Kiosk mode is a browser with no frame (aka full screen with no exit) -- Mohamed Mansour On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ricardo Vargas rvar...@chromium.orgwrote: I guess he's looking at a way to prevent the browser from going out of full screen mode. My second guess is that the last comment is just a greeting (that's all for now). On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: And are you looking to hire somebody to do the work? (That's what I seem to gather from your hourly comment.) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: Even with the translation, it's difficult to understand what you're saying and asking. Chromium has a full screen feature and is open source so you could tweak it to meet your needs. Does that help? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Why does Chromium on mac have a theme switch UI in the preferences?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Meok meok...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add my two cents worth. Even though there is a full resource, I still see a need for users to be able to keep their favorites easily accessible. It;s the same philosophy of having a New Tab Page even though you can pull back your most visited sites from the bookmarks. As we've already (sort of) said on this thread, it seems like having your MRU themes is useful, but it's appropriate to do as an element of the theme gallery itself, not as a separate local page. PK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] --safe-plugins
I have a friend who is interested in trying --safe-plugins and I told him he should file compat bugs at crbug.com/new, which was what I thought the advice was. I then looked for a bug that mentioned the flag to give him an example (which is difficult, incidentally, because I think it's interpreting the initial hyphen as a minus operator) and the only one I found was crbug.com/16118, which was wontfix'd. So are bugs relating to --safe-plugins being accepted, or not? And if they are, should there maybe be a tag (SafePlugins?) for them so they are easy to find? Thanks! -- Caleb Eggensperger http://calebegg.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: --safe-plugins
Please do file these bugs. They should probably get their own tag (SafePlugins, maybe?) and will be moved to Mstone-X because enabling --safe-plugins by default is not a feature assigned to a specific milestone. Thanks! Adam On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Caleb Eggenspergercaleb...@gmail.com wrote: I have a friend who is interested in trying --safe-plugins and I told him he should file compat bugs at crbug.com/new, which was what I thought the advice was. I then looked for a bug that mentioned the flag to give him an example (which is difficult, incidentally, because I think it's interpreting the initial hyphen as a minus operator) and the only one I found was crbug.com/16118, which was wontfix'd. So are bugs relating to --safe-plugins being accepted, or not? And if they are, should there maybe be a tag (SafePlugins?) for them so they are easy to find? Thanks! -- Caleb Eggensperger http://calebegg.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Allocator Choice
In an effort to make it easier to test debugging heaps and allocators, I just landed a changelist which makes our allocators switchable at runtime. Unlike Obama's plan for healthcare, this CL is about giving you more choice. From an environment variable, you can now switch between 4 different allocators. set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=tcmalloc // default - use TC Malloc set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=jemalloc // use JEMalloc, the allocator also used in firefox set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=winheap // use the built in windows heap set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=winlfh // use the low-fragmentation windows heap This change also contains a fix to tcmalloc to more aggressively return pages (in other words, actually return them sometimes). Without this fix, Chrome grows but doesn't shrink. As a result, this change *DOES* have a negative performance impact on chrome (we're now returning pages fairly aggressively) Good news: - Our memory test shows a 4% drop (not terribly significant) http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/vista-release-dual-core/memory/report.html?history=150graph=commit_charge Neutral news: - The Moz page cycler shows no change: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/vista-release-dual-core/moz/report.html?history=150 Bad news - The JS page cycler shows a 3% drop. http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/xp-release-dual-core/morejs/report.html?history=150 I'm working on this. Let me know if you have problems or feedback. Also, if you do play around with the allocator choices, let me know your experience. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
Jeremy Orlow So, how can I do this? ^^ Dan Kegel No, but if I can get help I would be thankful. I can't find the material of the documentation about this. Ricardo Vargas Exactly, I need a screen without the full-screen frame and that can't be closed by the user interaction. Mohamed Mansour I asked cause I got aware of the lack of the Kiosk mode and according to my need I'd like informations of how to implement it My idea is to create an aplication win32 full screen and add a rendering panel of chromiun, without necessarily have the complete browser, only his engine. Is this possible and how can I find material about this? Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/11 Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org Firefox and IE has Kiosk mode, where you can go full screen all the time. iexplore -k url We currently don't have that in Chromium, the closest we have is Application Mode. Kiosk mode is a browser with no frame (aka full screen with no exit) -- Mohamed Mansour On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ricardo Vargas rvar...@chromium.orgwrote: I guess he's looking at a way to prevent the browser from going out of full screen mode. My second guess is that the last comment is just a greeting (that's all for now). On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: And are you looking to hire somebody to do the work? (That's what I seem to gather from your hourly comment.) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: Even with the translation, it's difficult to understand what you're saying and asking. Chromium has a full screen feature and is open source so you could tweak it to meet your needs. Does that help? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Why does Chromium on mac have a theme switch UI in the preferences?
I'm all in favor of Chromium using web interfaces instead of local code. As I've said before in a thread on Chromium-Discuss, if Google is creating a browser to maximize the potential of the web, and encourage web developers to make more complex applications, then the said Google browser should be leading the charge by embracing the web as a platform. If you're going to invest so much in V8 to make AJAX faster, why not use AJAX and an online interface to do many things for the browser itself? I'm in favor of seeing Bookmarks and Themes presented in Web-app format, running powerful Javascript on par with Gmail or Google Docs, with effects as stunning as some of the ChromeExperiements. In other words, show off what the browser can do, as well as promote the use of the web as a platform. However, the reason I'm a little skeptical is that I'm afraid Google may come under fire. How will the Theme Gallery know my most used themes without authentication. If you make the theme gallery pull the info from the browser history, you may be accused of violating privacy rights, and if you force users to sign-in to the gallery to access the feature, you make the process more tedious and if you use a Google account, you risk looking monopolistic. Maybe I'm just being too paranoid, and maybe you already have an ingenious programming solution, but that was my motivation for suggesting the internal page. On Aug 11, 9:23 pm, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Meok meok...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add my two cents worth. Even though there is a full resource, I still see a need for users to be able to keep their favorites easily accessible. It;s the same philosophy of having a New Tab Page even though you can pull back your most visited sites from the bookmarks. As we've already (sort of) said on this thread, it seems like having your MRU themes is useful, but it's appropriate to do as an element of the theme gallery itself, not as a separate local page. PK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: How to simulate a MMS message on emulator
If this is not related to Chrome\Chromium (and I suspect it does not), this is not the place. I am sure there are groups for Android, google it. ☆PhistucK On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:02, n179911 n179...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, How to simulate a MMS message on emulator? From the eclipse android plugins, I can only see 'SMS'. I don't see any MMS message. Thank you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
You can embed Chromium with this project -chromiumembedded.googlecode.com ☆PhistucK On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:01, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Jeremy Orlow So, how can I do this? ^^ Dan Kegel No, but if I can get help I would be thankful. I can't find the material of the documentation about this. Ricardo Vargas Exactly, I need a screen without the full-screen frame and that can't be closed by the user interaction. Mohamed Mansour I asked cause I got aware of the lack of the Kiosk mode and according to my need I'd like informations of how to implement it My idea is to create an aplication win32 full screen and add a rendering panel of chromiun, without necessarily have the complete browser, only his engine. Is this possible and how can I find material about this? Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/11 Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org Firefox and IE has Kiosk mode, where you can go full screen all the time. iexplore -k url We currently don't have that in Chromium, the closest we have is Application Mode. Kiosk mode is a browser with no frame (aka full screen with no exit) -- Mohamed Mansour On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ricardo Vargas rvar...@chromium.orgwrote: I guess he's looking at a way to prevent the browser from going out of full screen mode. My second guess is that the last comment is just a greeting (that's all for now). On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: And are you looking to hire somebody to do the work? (That's what I seem to gather from your hourly comment.) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: Even with the translation, it's difficult to understand what you're saying and asking. Chromium has a full screen feature and is open source so you could tweak it to meet your needs. Does that help? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Why does Chromium on mac have a theme switch UI in the preferences?
I have not read through the entire message, so forgive me if I am saying something unrelated and that was already answered here -It seems like there might be security issues with loading web resources in the internal pages, since internal pages seem to have a lot of power and privileges and the web is posed here as unsafe and must be sandboxed through the whole way (which is correct, of course). Combining the two may lead to unfortunate consequences. For the same reason, the Tips Recommendations was pulled out. There is a command line switch called --enable-web-resources and, probably, just like the remote fonts feature (which is preventing Chrome from fully passing the ACID3 test, as far as I recall), that is behind a command line switch due to yet to be resolved security concerns. ☆PhistucK On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:08, Meok meok...@gmail.com wrote: I'm all in favor of Chromium using web interfaces instead of local code. As I've said before in a thread on Chromium-Discuss, if Google is creating a browser to maximize the potential of the web, and encourage web developers to make more complex applications, then the said Google browser should be leading the charge by embracing the web as a platform. If you're going to invest so much in V8 to make AJAX faster, why not use AJAX and an online interface to do many things for the browser itself? I'm in favor of seeing Bookmarks and Themes presented in Web-app format, running powerful Javascript on par with Gmail or Google Docs, with effects as stunning as some of the ChromeExperiements. In other words, show off what the browser can do, as well as promote the use of the web as a platform. However, the reason I'm a little skeptical is that I'm afraid Google may come under fire. How will the Theme Gallery know my most used themes without authentication. If you make the theme gallery pull the info from the browser history, you may be accused of violating privacy rights, and if you force users to sign-in to the gallery to access the feature, you make the process more tedious and if you use a Google account, you risk looking monopolistic. Maybe I'm just being too paranoid, and maybe you already have an ingenious programming solution, but that was my motivation for suggesting the internal page. On Aug 11, 9:23 pm, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Meok meok...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add my two cents worth. Even though there is a full resource, I still see a need for users to be able to keep their favorites easily accessible. It;s the same philosophy of having a New Tab Page even though you can pull back your most visited sites from the bookmarks. As we've already (sort of) said on this thread, it seems like having your MRU themes is useful, but it's appropriate to do as an element of the theme gallery itself, not as a separate local page. PK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: Allocator Choice
Do we have numbers on how the 4 allocates compare on those tests (page cycler, etc)? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Mike Belshembel...@google.com wrote: In an effort to make it easier to test debugging heaps and allocators, I just landed a changelist which makes our allocators switchable at runtime. Unlike Obama's plan for healthcare, this CL is about giving you more choice. From an environment variable, you can now switch between 4 different allocators. set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=tcmalloc // default - use TC Malloc set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=jemalloc // use JEMalloc, the allocator also used in firefox set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=winheap // use the built in windows heap set CHROME_ALLOCATOR=winlfh // use the low-fragmentation windows heap This change also contains a fix to tcmalloc to more aggressively return pages (in other words, actually return them sometimes). Without this fix, Chrome grows but doesn't shrink. As a result, this change *DOES* have a negative performance impact on chrome (we're now returning pages fairly aggressively) Good news: - Our memory test shows a 4% drop (not terribly significant) http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/vista-release-dual-core/memory/report.html?history=150graph=commit_charge Neutral news: - The Moz page cycler shows no change: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/vista-release-dual-core/moz/report.html?history=150 Bad news - The JS page cycler shows a 3% drop. http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/perf/xp-release-dual-core/morejs/report.html?history=150 I'm working on this. Let me know if you have problems or feedback. Also, if you do play around with the allocator choices, let me know your experience. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[chromium-dev] Re: lan manager in cloud
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:27 PM, PhistucK phist...@gmail.com wrote: You can embed Chromium with this project -chromiumembedded.googlecode.com ☆PhistucK Yeah...that sounds like what you're looking for probably. It's a way to embed the Chromium rendering engine into your own apps. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:01, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Jeremy Orlow So, how can I do this? ^^ Dan Kegel No, but if I can get help I would be thankful. I can't find the material of the documentation about this. Ricardo Vargas Exactly, I need a screen without the full-screen frame and that can't be closed by the user interaction. Mohamed Mansour I asked cause I got aware of the lack of the Kiosk mode and according to my need I'd like informations of how to implement it My idea is to create an aplication win32 full screen and add a rendering panel of chromiun, without necessarily have the complete browser, only his engine. Is this possible and how can I find material about this? Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/11 Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org Firefox and IE has Kiosk mode, where you can go full screen all the time. iexplore -k url We currently don't have that in Chromium, the closest we have is Application Mode. Kiosk mode is a browser with no frame (aka full screen with no exit) -- Mohamed Mansour On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ricardo Vargas rvar...@chromium.orgwrote: I guess he's looking at a way to prevent the browser from going out of full screen mode. My second guess is that the last comment is just a greeting (that's all for now). On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: And are you looking to hire somebody to do the work? (That's what I seem to gather from your hourly comment.) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: Even with the translation, it's difficult to understand what you're saying and asking. Chromium has a full screen feature and is open source so you could tweak it to meet your needs. Does that help? On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com wrote: Someone could help me in these disputes? it is an Opensource project. Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm 2009/8/10 Wallace Araujo wallace@gmail.com Portugues( lingua nativa): Eu estou desenvolvendo um sistema para gerenciamento de lan house ou cyber cafés que funcione em nuvem. Necessito usar um browser para isso que me permita: - janela full screem e sem barra de titulo e controladores globais (minimizar, maximizar e fechar). De inicio usei o XUL da mozilla mas tive problemas com ele. Preciso de ajuda para saber se posso fazer isso com o chromium e como fazer isso com ele. Por hora é só. English ( google tradutor): I am developing a system to manage lan house or cyber cafes operating in the cloud. Need to use a browser that I can: - Screem full window without the title bar and drivers overall (minimize, maximize and close). From beginning I used the mozilla's XUL but I had problems with it. I need help to know if I can do this with the chromium and how to do this with him. Hourly is just. Span ( google tradutor) Estoy desarrollando un sistema para administrar Lan House o cibercafés que funcionan en la nube. Necesidad de utilizar un navegador que pueda: - Screem completo la ventana sin barra de título y conductores en general (minimizar, maximizar y cerrar). Desde el principio he usado Mozilla XUL, pero tuve problemas con él. Necesito ayuda para saber si puedo hacer esto con el cromo y cómo hacer esto con él. Cada hora que es justo. -- Wallace Araujo cellphone: +55 (21) 7681-9846 Follow me on Twitter: @wallacejvm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---