4000 Enterprise Plus 12.1.2 ???
Hello, I'm trying to load Enterprise Plus 12.1.2 to my 4000 router. The requirement for this verion is 8MB flash, 32MB RAM. I'm wondering how can I get 32MB RAM? The maximum main RAM is 16MB. Or maybe 16MB main + 16 MB shared = 32MB??? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which Boson CCDA?
Hey Groupies, I was wondering which Boson CCDA test I should upgrade to the full version. There are 3 so I just dont know which one is best. Remember that it might be a new series because as of June 14th it is now version 3.09. So if anybody has downloaded and used this for their CCDA, I would appreciate any feedback on which to buy. Thanks in advance group...it's appreciated. ;) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] "My peers always told me that growing up would have a huge impact on my life... What they didn't tell me is that the size of the impact would knock me on my ass"... ~ Mark Z.~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Boson CCDA?
Hey Groupies, Sorry...couldn't wait for an answer. Too excited!!! ;) I got the test #1. If anyone can give me good feedback on the others, I'll probably get one of them also. Thanks group. ;) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA (Soon 2B CCDA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] "My peers always told me that growing up would have a huge impact on my life... What they didn't tell me is that the size of the impact would knock me on my ass"... ~ Mark Z.~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Uh oh, did the list die again?
Ccoee MUST HAVE COFFEE!!:)()():<> i felt like that but i NOw have had over 400 mails in three days we all love you honest! steviekins >From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: OT: Uh oh, did the list die again? >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:30:48 -0700 (PDT) > >Just a test. I haven't received any emails in quite a while and I'm >feeling >lonely.You all know how those groupstudy withdrawals areshakes, >nervousness, hives, seeing stars...it's awful. Then again, maybe I just >haven't had enough coffee yet. > > > > > >___ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3com??
this is REALLY off topic. but does anyone know the addy of the 3com studygroup?? i got some 3com super-stack-switches that are giving my users some connectivity issues, and I dont know how to troubleshoot them. But at least i can say my Cisco 2500 series router is doin fine! =) thanks Deepak ( trying VERY hard to finish off MCSE and CCNA, but cant find the bloody time!!! ) begin:vcard n:Sharma;Deepak x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:MCP A+ ACT x-mozilla-cpt:;-1 fn:Deepak Sharma end:vcard
3com??
this is REALLY off topic. but does anyone know the addy of the 3com studygroup?? i got some 3com super-stack-switches that are giving my users some connectivity issues, and I dont know how to troubleshoot them. But at least i can say my Cisco 2500 series router is doin fine! =) thanks Deepak ( trying VERY hard to finish off MCSE and CCNA, but cant find the bloody time!!! ) begin:vcard n:Sharma;Deepak x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:MCP A+ ACT x-mozilla-cpt:;-1 fn:Deepak Sharma end:vcard
RE: 3com??
My experience with the 3Com SS switches is the following : It dies - replace power supply It freezes - replace switch/send for repair ports die - replace switch/send for repair Generally I must admit they work quite ok ! Regards Olden -Original Message- From: Deepak Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:16 AM To: cisco Subject: 3com?? this is REALLY off topic. but does anyone know the addy of the 3com studygroup?? i got some 3com super-stack-switches that are giving my users some connectivity issues, and I dont know how to troubleshoot them. But at least i can say my Cisco 2500 series router is doin fine! =) thanks Deepak ( trying VERY hard to finish off MCSE and CCNA, but cant find the bloody time!!! ) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA 1.0
Hi there,, I just need to ask one ques. that i hope u can help me on , i'm planning to take the CCNA 1.0 exam before the retired date which is 31 of july, so i just need to check if i passed and got the CCNA 1.0 will the certificate also be retired after that date or it's only the exam will be stoped ,, i appreciate ur help and hope to hear from u soon. Best Regards, -- Ahmed Adil AL-Rawi Technical Support Engineer Omnix Qatar Co. Mobil :+(974) 5545 - 961 Fax :+(974) 838 - 732 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Salam Tower/3rd Floor Corniche St./West Bay P.O.Box 22119 Doha - Qatar ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pre-sales People
As you know, Brad, the more expensive equipment you sell, the fatter the pay envelope :-> As someone new to the sales side, but a tightwad customer for a number of years, I probably err to the other side. But yes, in my experience as a customer, I often ran into "solutions" which addressed making quota, making a house payment, buying a new set of golf clubs, or whatever. I also as a customer spent many years in an industry driven by commission sales. So I may be a bit more jaded about this than most. Perhaps your SE just needs a bit more seasoning. There is a phenomenon in many walks of life, whereby one orders, or designs, or implements, or sells based on what one dreams about, rather than what one needs. You've probably seen it. The 10 dollar an hour clerk at the department store who orders everything in the book as a vicarious experience, leaving the inventory enormously bloated and causing profits to fall dramatically. The SE who suggests to a customer all the great toys he would like to work on just for the fun of it ( will this guy be doing the implementation as well? ). There are even customers who act this way, telling the consulting firms they won't settle for anything less than BGX switches on their WAN and 85XX in their closets. ( at least until they see the proposal ) Although I am not particularly against bumping up RAM whenever possible, having seen a lot of IOS bloat these last couple of years, I am a bit amused at the 65xx solution. You guys members of the Cisco Consultants Program? Or get the Cisco Products Quick Reference Guide and Sales Tools CD some other way? Sounds like your guy needs to do some more reading. Also, doesn't somebody review the bids before they go to the customer? Just as a matter of good practice? The kind of situation you describe is something that should happen only once. Get your internal practices into place. And now that you know this guy is a bit overzealous, you definitely have reason to do so. See, all that bureaucracy and bullcrap at those big dinosaur consulting firms really does serve some purpose after all :-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Pre-sales People Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes bids (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of space)? We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested (2) Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing an 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!! Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done much pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more. any input is appreciated. thanks! -Brad p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me know!!! lol ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pre-sales People
Brad, All is not well in the cisco sales area.. I had a sales qoute from cisco that had a pix box for 20 users and I said why not just use the fire wall software ?? Answer *not secure enough * My Cisco Inside Channel Account Manager does not return calls emails, etc.. His boss told me that "Cisco does not care about small biz " " thats the 3com market" When I said to him that I wanted to focus on very small biz as the mainsteam market seems to neglect them . he said *yes we do neglect them .* * Thats not where the money is * This statement infuriated me and I reminded him that small biz is the life blood of the American economy and still 40 % of the biz in this country how the heck can you ignore it. Specially considering the company I was working for only had 100 + workers He had no answer and kept mumbling about enterprise customers. If I had the time I would take this up with cisco because it is pathetic. Everytime I hear John Chambers now I want to puke , as the setup around here is woeful. At least I can rely on TAC But right now I have a slab of work and I just buy stuff outside th cisco channel and it's cheaper anyhow So the Sales side is pretty sick . So the only nice part about the inside sales dudes is they give you a chnace to make some nice labor heh Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pre-sales People
One other suggestion, would be to use the Presales Helpline. The reseller option, mind you. Chuck Larrieu wrote: > > As you know, Brad, the more expensive equipment you sell, the fatter the pay > envelope :-> > > As someone new to the sales side, but a tightwad customer for a number of > years, I probably err to the other side. But yes, in my experience as a > customer, I often ran into "solutions" which addressed making quota, making > a house payment, buying a new set of golf clubs, or whatever. I also as a > customer spent many years in an industry driven by commission sales. So I > may be a bit more jaded about this than most. > > Perhaps your SE just needs a bit more seasoning. There is a phenomenon in > many walks of life, whereby one orders, or designs, or implements, or sells > based on what one dreams about, rather than what one needs. You've probably > seen it. The 10 dollar an hour clerk at the department store who orders > everything in the book as a vicarious experience, leaving the inventory > enormously bloated and causing profits to fall dramatically. The SE who > suggests to a customer all the great toys he would like to work on just for > the fun of it ( will this guy be doing the implementation as well? ). There > are even customers who act this way, telling the consulting firms they won't > settle for anything less than BGX switches on their WAN and 85XX in their > closets. ( at least until they see the proposal ) > > Although I am not particularly against bumping up RAM whenever possible, > having seen a lot of IOS bloat these last couple of years, I am a bit amused > at the 65xx solution. > > You guys members of the Cisco Consultants Program? Or get the Cisco Products > Quick Reference Guide and Sales Tools CD some other way? Sounds like your > guy needs to do some more reading. > > Also, doesn't somebody review the bids before they go to the customer? Just > as a matter of good practice? The kind of situation you describe is > something that should happen only once. Get your internal practices into > place. And now that you know this guy is a bit overzealous, you definitely > have reason to do so. See, all that bureaucracy and bullcrap at those big > dinosaur consulting firms really does serve some purpose after all :-> > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad > Ellis > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 9:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Pre-sales People > > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes bids > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of space)? > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested (2) > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing an > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!! > > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done much > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more. > > any input is appreciated. > > thanks! > -Brad > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me know!!! > lol > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- -- ,-~~-.___. / | ' \ ( ) 0 \_/-, ,' e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //www: http://www.xmission.com:80/~jalapeno / \-'~;/~~~(O) 4 / __/~| / | =( _| (_| ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3com?? off-topic.
Just to add It dies- replace power supply AND fans. I also have plenty of experience with these switches and have only have ever had one port/ freeze failure in over 2 years amongst 200 + SSxx00's. Maybe I'm lucky. Corebuilder 3500's on the other hand, well thats a diferent story and I find 3Coms tech support a bit poor. IMHO. I wouldn't like libel action. You could try 3com's Knowledge base on their website. Best regards Paul >From: Olden Pieterse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Olden Pieterse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Deepak Sharma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: 3com?? >Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:35:03 +0200 > > >My experience with the 3Com SS switches is the following : >It dies- replace power supply >It freezes - replace switch/send for repair >ports die - replace switch/send for repair > >Generally I must admit they work quite ok ! > >Regards >Olden >-Original Message- >From: Deepak Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:16 AM >To: cisco >Subject: 3com?? > > >this is REALLY off topic. > >but does anyone know the addy of the 3com studygroup?? > >i got some 3com super-stack-switches that are giving my users some >connectivity issues, and I dont know how to troubleshoot them. > >But at least i can say my Cisco 2500 series router is doin fine! =) > >thanks > >Deepak >( trying VERY hard to finish off MCSE and CCNA, but cant find the bloody >time!!! ) > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5500 and 6500
Anyone hear that delivery of the 5500 and 6500 are late. They cannot get the chips they need. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pre-sales People
Oz, Ive got some 515's in stock if you need one! -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 ""Oz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 002701bfe351$7fe98610$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:002701bfe351$7fe98610$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Brad, > All is not well in the cisco sales area.. I had a sales qoute from cisco > that had a pix box for 20 users and I said why not just use the fire wall > software ?? > Answer *not secure enough * > > My Cisco Inside Channel Account Manager does not return calls emails, > etc.. > His boss told me that "Cisco does not care about small biz " " thats the > 3com market" > When I said to him that I wanted to focus on very small biz as the > mainsteam market seems to neglect them . he said *yes we do neglect them > .* > * Thats not where the money is * > This statement infuriated me and I reminded him that small biz is the life > blood of the American economy and still 40 % of the biz in this country > how the heck can you ignore it. > Specially considering the company I was working for only had 100 + workers > He had no answer and kept mumbling about enterprise customers. > > If I had the time I would take this up with cisco because it is pathetic. > Everytime I hear John Chambers now I want to puke , as the setup around > here is woeful. > At least I can rely on TAC > But right now I have a slab of work and I just buy stuff outside th cisco > channel and it's cheaper anyhow > So the Sales side is pretty sick . > So the only nice part about the inside sales dudes is they give you a > chnace to make some nice labor heh > > Oz > http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA 1.0
Only the exam will be retired, not the certificate. Cisco does not discriminate between a CCNA 1.0 and a CCNA 2.0 certificate. A CCNA is a CCNA. Go ahead and take it. Cheers, Roman > Hi there,, > I just need to ask one ques. that i hope u can help me on , >i'm planning to take the CCNA 1.0 exam before the retired date which is >31 of july, so i just need to check if i passed and got the CCNA 1.0 >will the certificate also be retired after that date or it's only the >exam will be stoped ,, >i appreciate ur help and hope to hear from u soon. > >Best Regards, > >-- >Ahmed Adil AL-Rawi >Technical Support Engineer >Omnix Qatar Co. >Mobil :+(974) 5545 - 961 >Fax :+(974) 838 - 732 >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Salam Tower/3rd Floor >Corniche St./West Bay >P.O.Box 22119 Doha - Qatar ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP question
Thanks for the information. Just for other readers
note, BGP is not included in Routing TCP/IP...that's
why I asked about BGP specifically. ;)
--- "Raymond Everson (Rainman)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> There are TWO, and ONLY two books comprehensive
> enough to be referred to
> as the "burning bush" of BGP... the more
> understandable, readable is:
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578700418/qid=962457671/sr=1-2/102-1944739-3768950
>
> The classic tech library is not complete however,
> without THE Bible of
> BGP, written by the guy most influential in BGP
> deployment, Bassam Halabi
> ("Sam"):
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1562056522/qid=962457981/sr=1-1/102-1944739-3768950
>
> which is soon to be followed by it's Second
> Edition...
>
> Please do not accept any substitutes, no kidding.
> R/
> Rainman
>
> Dan West wrote:
>
> > This BGP gizmo looks rather intriguing...Can
> anyone
> > recommed ONE comprehensive, well-written book on
> iBGP
> > and eBGP?
> >
> > Many thanks. ( from myself and elgrande.com)
> >
> > --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Sounds like you guys were doing IBGP...
> > >
> > >
> > > Could be, but there are several other
> explanations.
> > >
> > > Let me go into the underlying rationale.
> According
> > > to RFC1930, which
> > > is a must-read in understanding BGP, an AS is a
> set
> > > of addresses and
> > > routers, under one or more administrations, that
> > > presents a common
> > > routing policy to the internet. So, if Dan's
> > > employer had Internet
> > > connectivity only through the provider, the
> customer
> > > would logically
> > > be part of the provider's AS.,
> > >
> > > Providers are usually reluctant to let customers
> > > have access to their
> > > iBGP. You will see cases where the provider
> > > controls an iBGP router
> > > at the customer premises.
> > >
> > > More likely, the provider assigned a private AS
> > > number to the
> > > customer, and either made it part of a
> confederation
> > > or used a rather
> > > undocumented Cisco feature called
> remove-private-as.
> > > By doing this,
> > > you have all the power of eBGP policy controls,
> but
> > > you don't burn a
> > > registered AS number.
> > >
> > > I'd like to throw out a related question to
> people
> > > that recently have
> > > taken BGP in a Cisco course, or in certification
> > > tests. On this
> > > list, the term "advanced BGP" is used a good
> deal in
> > > relation to the
> > > new material. It had been my experience that the
> BGP
> > > in ACRC was so
> > > oversimplified as to have no relationship with
> > > anything one would see
> > > in the ISP world. In particular, there was
> > > handwaving about
> > > "policies," but very little about why one has
> > > policies or how they
> > > are enforced -- just the urban legend that "BGP
> > > carries policies."
> > >
> > > I'm doing a series of tutorials on BGP at
> > > certificationzone.com, the
> > > second of which is in the free area of the CCIE
> > > zone. To me, they
> > > are at the "BGP 101 or BGP 102" level in terms
> of
> > > real-world Internet
> > > operations.
> > >
> > > Within what people can say within NDA, are
> complex
> > > AS path
> > > expressions being considered? QoS policy setting
> > > based on AS
> > > path/address/community?Hierarchical route
> > > reflectors? The flavors
> > > of hard and soft refresh? Load-sharing policies?
> > > Cold potato routing?
> > > etc., etc., etc
> > >
> > > What topics that people are seeing in BGP course
> > > material or tests on
> > > which you'd most like additional tutorials?
> > > Unfortunately, I don't
> > > approach this topic through the eyes of a person
> > > starting with the
> > > technology.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >-B
> > > >"Dan West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> > >
> >
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > My former employer (an ISP) had BGP peering
> > > with our
> > > > > upstream provider(Telco). As I understand
> it so
> > > far,
> > > > > BGP4 is used to advertise routes between
> > > autonomous
> > > > > systems. One day I ran a web-based
> traceroute
> > > to my
> > > > > old haunt and it showed them having the
> same
> > > > > autonomous system number as our bandwidth
> > > provider.
> > > > > Were we unnecessarily using BGP? I don't
> > > understand
> > > > > why our telco and we (the ISP) had the same
> AS
> > > number.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the AS
> > > number in
> > > > > BGP?
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks.
> > >
> > > ___
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> >
> > =
> > Dan West -- CCNA
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yah
Re: Pre-sales People
The pre-sales engineer's response was: The 4000 series is not a "backbone" switch according to Cisco... -Brad - Original Message - From: "nigel samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco Group Study" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Pre-sales People > That does sound strange, I did work as a pre -sales guy for a while. I > basically knew most customers don't want to spend lots of cash on equipment, > but it was important to think about the future growth. Of course some > customers were max out on their network, so tossing money at the problem > was necessary. Pre-sales are sometimes told to push certain equipment > depending on vendor discounts, incentives etc. > > In that case it does sound strange 2 -6000's to replace one 8 port switch. > Is it possible the 8 port switch was acting as a backbone to lot of servers > down stream? Usually the Pre-sales engineer's proposal will give a reason > for the recommendation. If they are think about the future you can always > add another later?? > > Nigel > > Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes bids > > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of > space)? > > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested > (2) > > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the > > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing an > > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!! > > > > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done > much > > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more. > > > > any input is appreciated. > > > > thanks! > > -Brad > > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me know!!! > > lol > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pre-sales People
That does sound strange, I did work as a pre -sales guy for a while. I basically knew most customers don't want to spend lots of cash on equipment, but it was important to think about the future growth. Of course some customers were max out on their network, so tossing money at the problem was necessary. Pre-sales are sometimes told to push certain equipment depending on vendor discounts, incentives etc. In that case it does sound strange 2 -6000's to replace one 8 port switch. Is it possible the 8 port switch was acting as a backbone to lot of servers down stream? Usually the Pre-sales engineer's proposal will give a reason for the recommendation. If they are think about the future you can always add another later?? Nigel Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes bids > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of space)? > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested (2) > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing an > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!! > > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done much > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more. > > any input is appreciated. > > thanks! > -Brad > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me know!!! > lol > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: collisions, broadcasts, etc.
Thanks. On Monday I'll clear the counters and write that stuff down. We're doing layer 2 switching with fast ethernet to all the closets and about half/half to the desktops (10/100). There's mostly switches in the closets but we do have some hubs as well. We have Spectrum and I'm still learning it but I did just figure out how to take reports with it before I left on Friday. I should now be able to see where most of the traffic is coming/going. Thanks for your help. I'll post back the info I get next week. Jeff ""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 002401bfe2fc$e77f9f80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:002401bfe2fc$e77f9f80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, of course, the real question is over what period of time is all this > happening? > > First thing - your readout states: > > "Last clearing of "show interface" counters never" > > if the routers have been up for five years, this may not really be a > problem. :-> > > So you might want to do a "clear counters" then check every hour or two > during the day and write down the numbers you see. > > If your organization can afford it, something like a lan meter ( Fluke makes > a good one. There are others I'm sure ) or better yet, a protocol analyzer > can help you monitor, compile, and graph lan conditions. > > Also, you don't mention is you are hubbed, bridged, switched, or some > combination of the above. > > Your internet router - you really have 1500 or so users? All hitting the > net? All listen to live radio or broadcast.com? something to keep in mind. > This router, a funnel point, may indeed be showing you that 1) it should be > full duplex and 2) you need more bandwitdth to your ISP > > HTH > > Chuck > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff > Duchin > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 11:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: collisions, broadcasts, etc. > > Greetings. Here's the boat I'm in... I'm new here and what we have is a flat > network with 7 Class C subnets. We have a Windows/MAC mixed environment. All > the PC's point to themselves for their Default Gateway (?) and the MAC's are > using a 7206 router so they can talk across the 2 domains we have > (student/staff). I was looking at the interfaces and noticed what looked to > be like WAY too many collisions going on. Could someone please give me some > basics about the following show int command I'm posting? > > Ethernet4/0 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0010.543e.c420 (bia 0010.543e.c420) > Internet address is --.--.--.254/24 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, rely 255/255, load 21/255 > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) > ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 > Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never > Last clearing of "show interface" counters never > Queueing strategy: fifo > Output queue 0/40, 1157 drops; input queue 0/75, 386 drops > 5 minute input rate 25 bits/sec, 161 packets/sec > 5 minute output rate 838000 bits/sec, 161 packets/sec > 115967108 packets input, 273292174 bytes, 0 no buffer > Received 8605468 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles > 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort > 0 input packets with dribble condition detected > 127539144 packets output, 2111505262 bytes, 0 underruns > 65699 output errors, 11844662 collisions, 1 interface resets > 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 3187621 deferred > 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out > > ...this one connects to the firewall which then goes to a 2610 and out to > our ISP: > > Ethernet4/1 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0010.543e.c421 (bia 0010.543e.c421) > Internet address is --.--.--.--/29 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, rely 255/255, load 8/255 > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) > ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 > Last input 00:00:01, output 00:00:00, output hang never > Last clearing of "show interface" counters never > Queueing strategy: fifo > Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 4 drops > 5 minute input rate 79 bits/sec, 138 packets/sec > 5 minute output rate 327000 bits/sec, 139 packets/sec > 118927484 packets input, 1484556823 bytes, 0 no buffer > Received 3781 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles > 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort > 0 input packets with dribble condition detected > 99391467 packets output, 2861528053 bytes, 0 underruns > 0 output errors, 3113576 collisions, 1 interface resets > 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 1769674 deferred > 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FA
NAT and BGP
Our IOS running on a 7200 does not support NAT! We are at present running BGP, we need to start running NAT, The question is can you run both BGP and NAT on the same (7200) router ? thanks Tayta ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NAT and BGP
>Our IOS running on a 7200 does not support NAT! We are at present running >BGP, > >we need to start running NAT, > >The question is can you run both BGP and NAT on the same (7200) router ? > >thanks > >Tayta You'll have to watch both memory and CPU utilization, but there's no fundamental reason they can't run together. Both do take lots of resources. What does the TAC say about this? Any release/platform specific considerations? Incidentally, BGP itself cannot go _through_ NAT. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pre-sales People
Sometimes Cisco folks are a little too big for their britches. :-> The argument presented sounds a bit like the OSI model arguments we have once in a while, 'eh? Let's see - core, distribution, access. 85xx & 65xx, 5xxx&4xxx, 29xx and 35xx That's the way Cisco defines it, so it must be true. :-> Chuck PS what was the genesis of the conversation anyway? Were specific port and bandwidth requirements discussed, or did someone just throw out the terms "core" and "access", leaving some newly indoctrinated SE to apply what he just learned in sales school? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:22 AM To: nigel samuel; Cisco Group Study Subject:Re: Pre-sales People The pre-sales engineer's response was: The 4000 series is not a "backbone" switch according to Cisco... -Brad - Original Message - From: "nigel samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco Group Study" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Pre-sales People > That does sound strange, I did work as a pre -sales guy for a while. I > basically knew most customers don't want to spend lots of cash on equipment, > but it was important to think about the future growth. Of course some > customers were max out on their network, so tossing money at the problem > was necessary. Pre-sales are sometimes told to push certain equipment > depending on vendor discounts, incentives etc. > > In that case it does sound strange 2 -6000's to replace one 8 port switch. > Is it possible the 8 port switch was acting as a backbone to lot of servers > down stream? Usually the Pre-sales engineer's proposal will give a reason > for the recommendation. If they are think about the future you can always > add another later?? > > Nigel > > Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes bids > > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of > space)? > > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested > (2) > > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the > > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing an > > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!! > > > > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done > much > > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more. > > > > any input is appreciated. > > > > thanks! > > -Brad > > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me know!!! > > lol > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suppressing null update
Suppressing null update usually means: Your router has not recognized another router on the subnet in question, so there is no useful information to send to it. Your router has recognized another router, but has no useful information to send to it. >On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Omer wrote: > > > My router,R3, does not send any rip update. Bellow is the output >of the debug ip rip command on R3. How can configure > > the router so that RIP updates are sent? > >Hard to tell without the configuration, but probably by configuring >networks on it, or telling RIP to advertise them. Can you post a >sanitized configuration? > > > R3#debug ip rip > > RIP protocol debugging is on > > R3# > > RIP: sending v1 update to 255.255.255.255 via Serial0 >(180.180.2.2) - suppressin > > g null update > > RIP: received v1 update from 180.180.2.1 on Serial0 > > 170.170.0.0 in 1 hops > > 170.16.0.0 in 1 hops > > 166.166.0.0 in 2 hops > >-- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pre-sales People
>The pre-sales engineer's response was: > >The 4000 series is not a "backbone" switch according to Cisco... > >-Brad Let me begin by quoting then-President Theodore Roosevelt about then-Associate Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes: "I could carve out of a banana a man with more backbone than that!" Not exactly sure what the quote has to do with routing and switching, but it's nice to get attention in a discussion of backbones. People lose sight of the purpose of "backbone" or "core" in hierarchical models. While the core MAY indeed aggregate bandwidth and need the highest-speed routers/switches, that isn't necessarily true. Especially in environments when most of the traffic is local (think 80/20), the greatest capacity may need to be at the distribution tier. I can think of one client where I improved performance by swapping the very underutilized 7000 "core" routers with 4500 "distribution routers." On further measurement, I found the 4500's could be replaced by 2500's. At most, we only had a pair of T1's linking sites in the core. Backbones tend to attract strange terminology. "Collapsed backbone" always sounds to me as more of an orthopedic emergency than a desirable condition, but it seems to have become a term that will not go away. In such cases, yes, the greatest bandwidth will be in the core, and the backbone router/switch will need the greatest power. Remember that collapsed backbones may very well describe an environment where the servers are primarily in a server room distant to the clients, even though the servers may be on the same VLAN. VLAN-aware NICs can be very useful but don't always fit the basic hierarchical model. Bottom line: the pre-sales engineer is oversimplifying at best. Yes, some of the Cisco materials do distinguish among "backbone" and "edge" environments, but those materials tend to assume collapsed backbones with substantial bandwidth requirements. >- Original Message - >From: "nigel samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco Group Study" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:04 AM >Subject: Re: Pre-sales People > > > > That does sound strange, I did work as a pre -sales guy for a while. I > > basically knew most customers don't want to spend lots of cash on >equipment, > > but it was important to think about the future growth. Of course some > > customers were max out on their network, so tossing money at the problem > > was necessary. Pre-sales are sometimes told to push certain equipment > > depending on vendor discounts, incentives etc. > > > > In that case it does sound strange 2 -6000's to replace one 8 port switch. > > Is it possible the 8 port switch was acting as a backbone to lot of >servers > > down stream? Usually the Pre-sales engineer's proposal will give a reason > > for the recommendation. If they are think about the future you can always > > add another later?? > > > > Nigel > > > > Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > 8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes >bids > > > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of > > space)? > > > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested > > (2) > > > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the > > > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing >an > > > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!! > > > > > > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done > > much > > > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more. > > > > > > any input is appreciated. > > > > > > thanks! > > > -Brad > > > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me >know!!! > > > lol > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Null route
I would observe there is a considerable difference between 0.0.0.0/0 and 0.0.0.0/32 >No. It would only route traffic to null if it couldn't find a route >with a more specific match. > >Traffic is routed to whichever network the destination address falls >in that is the closest to the actual destination address. > >ex - > If you had the following routes - > 0.0.0.0 via null 0 > 10.0.0.0/8 via e0 > 10.20.0.0/16 via e1 > > If you had a packet destined for 10.20.8.5 it would go out e1 > If it was destined for 10.52.23.4 it would go out e0. > If it was destined for 9.23.41.1 it would go to null 0 > >hope that helps >mike > > >> >> >> >>Would: >> >>ip route 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 null 0 >> >>route ALL traffic to null 0? >> >>___ >>UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >>FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >>Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5500 and 6500
They are running about 6-8 weeks for delivery from what I have seen (on the 65xx series) Tim - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:40 AM Subject: 5500 and 6500 Anyone hear that delivery of the 5500 and 6500 are late. They cannot get the chips they need. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Pre-sales People
>Sometimes Cisco folks are a little too big for their britches. :-> > >The argument presented sounds a bit like the OSI model arguments we have >once in a while, 'eh? > >Let's see - core, distribution, access. 85xx & 65xx, 5xxx&4xxx, 29xx and >35xx Yep--of course. And that's for enterprise. Where does core/distribution/access fit with 15900/12000/1? Or, for that matter, 15900/15300/1500? Or, 8700/8800/3810? > >That's the way Cisco defines it, so it must be true. :-> > >Chuck > >PS what was the genesis of the conversation anyway? Were specific port and >bandwidth requirements discussed, or did someone just throw out the terms >"core" and "access", leaving some newly indoctrinated SE to apply what he >just learned in sales school? > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad >Ellis >Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:22 AM >To:nigel samuel; Cisco Group Study >Subject: Re: Pre-sales People > >The pre-sales engineer's response was: > >The 4000 series is not a "backbone" switch according to Cisco... > >-Brad >- Original Message - >From: "nigel samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco Group Study" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:04 AM >Subject: Re: Pre-sales People > > > > That does sound strange, I did work as a pre -sales guy for a while. I > > basically knew most customers don't want to spend lots of cash on >equipment, > > but it was important to think about the future growth. Of course some > > customers were max out on their network, so tossing money at the problem > > was necessary. Pre-sales are sometimes told to push certain equipment > > depending on vendor discounts, incentives etc. > > > > In that case it does sound strange 2 -6000's to replace one 8 port switch. > > Is it possible the 8 port switch was acting as a backbone to lot of >servers > > down stream? Usually the Pre-sales engineer's proposal will give a reason > > for the recommendation. If they are think about the future you can always > > add another later?? > > > > Nigel > > > > Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > 8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes >bids > > > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of > > space)? > > > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested > > (2) > > > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the > > > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing >an > > > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!! > > > > > > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done > > much > > > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more. > > > > > > any input is appreciated. > > > > > > thanks! > > > -Brad > > > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me >know!!! > > > lol > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3com??
The biggest connectivity issues are related to Auto-Sensing. Make sure that you force the ports on the switch to what the end users have. Also on a client side you might want to make it fixed as well. Auto-sensing in general is a pain in the butt! -Ryan - Original Message - From: "Olden Pieterse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Deepak Sharma'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 2:35 AM Subject: RE: 3com?? > > My experience with the 3Com SS switches is the following : > It dies - replace power supply > It freezes - replace switch/send for repair > ports die - replace switch/send for repair > > Generally I must admit they work quite ok ! > > Regards > Olden > -Original Message- > From: Deepak Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:16 AM > To: cisco > Subject: 3com?? > > > this is REALLY off topic. > > but does anyone know the addy of the 3com studygroup?? > > i got some 3com super-stack-switches that are giving my users some > connectivity issues, and I dont know how to troubleshoot them. > > But at least i can say my Cisco 2500 series router is doin fine! =) > > thanks > > Deepak > ( trying VERY hard to finish off MCSE and CCNA, but cant find the bloody > time!!! ) > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam
Am I off-base... Since the SPECIALIZATIONS are available ONLY to CCIEs and CCNPs... why are the betas allowing anyone off the street to take a shot? I would not even mind opening it up to CCNAs, DAs but hold the beat to some one that has shown some initiative toward the cisco cert Just curious if I am missing the point here? Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Kevin L. Kultgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ""Dale Cantrell"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: Re: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam > I've got it booked. Im design a voiceover IP WAN for a client and have done > some research into it but I don't think I'm 100% fluent in it. I've got it > scheduled for July 21. The last day possible. Gives me a little bit of > time to find material come up to par. > > Kevin L. Kultgen > MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, CNX-A, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW > IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP > Calgary, Alberta > - Original Message - > From: ""Dale Cantrell"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 1:41 PM > Subject: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam > > > > Hi people, anyone else happen to register for this? > > Way out of my league but I'm not missing any more betas. > > Dale > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP2.0..Important doubts
Hi All, I have completed my CCNA 640-407 and going to prepare for CCNP 2.0 I would like to know if the older version of CCNA is enough to pursue my CCNP 2.0 or has Cisco given any conditions to take the new version.. Thanks in advance, hari Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How far by self study?
a WOW... Impressive.. I mean I am impressed You should get a job though... and if you tell me you did this while working a full time job... then I quit Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Aaron Prather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: Re: How far by self study? > I got the following certs all by self study: > > MCSE > MCP+I > MasterCNE > CNE5 > CCNP+Voice > CCDP > Network+ > CCIE written test (hard test) > > All together that is almost 30 tests and no official courses, only books > (and hands on.) > > Not bad for a 22 year old eh? :) > > Aaron > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Integrating Avvid
Gary, In most cases you CAN get it to work... except with Nortel... They have trouble with VOIP... don't know why but it always ends with a sale call.. hey buy more of our stuff and it will work... Anyway An important point (regardless of cisco versus and lesser product (and they all in the end are lesser)) is that a multivendor network raises the total cost of Ownership by 31%... There was a great article on this some months back but that was the industry stat. The extra cost comes into play by ; Training, downtime, extra boxes for more scalability etc If anyone knows where that article is at please let me know... I lost it and want it back bad! Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Gary Alterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 9:49 PM Subject: Integrating Avvid > Hopefuly this isn't as stupid as I think it might be... I should try to > learn more about voice over IP before asking this, but here goes > > Is it possible to integrate Cisco's Voice solutions with another switching > solution such as Extreme or Foundry? In other words, is it possible to run, > say, an Extreme Black Diamond in the core and distribution, with Cisco > switches at the access layer, using Cisco IP phones, Call Manager, uOne, > etc...? Does anyone know if this has a chance or working or do I have to go > all Cisco? Any ideas? > > Just Curious at this point, > Gary > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nortel/Bay ATM woes...
Scability... You can have only so many PNNI (32?) links without going into ATM routing areas... If you have singular attached ATM switches Link it IISP and conserve the PNNI Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Nortel/Bay ATM woes... > Hey Mike, > You were right on! Apparently the call was going out but > never received. So the local les/bus pair showed the remote les/bus pair as > "partially operational" Once we got the addresses right the problem was > history. There was also mention of a IISP route as well as the PNNI routes. > I did some reading and found that the IISP routes are more like UNI routes > and do no dynamic routing, whereas you PNNI routes do. My question is why > in the topology would one place a IISP route and not let PNNI do it all > dynamically? > > Please let me know if I'm totally lost I'm doing allot of reading on > the subject at the moment..trying to get a few things cleared up in my > head(web closet) > > TIA > > Nigel > > - Original Message - > From: Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: Nortel/Bay ATM woes... > > > > Nigel, > > > > We have Nortel's ATM solution in our LAN. The "partially operational" > result is usually caused by one of two things or both. > > > > 1. Your call routes (on one side) are not set correctly. > > 2. There is an error (on one side) in the remote les/bus address. > > > > Specifically, the error means that traffic is being transmitted or > received by the remote device, but the local device can't "see" the far end. > > > > When I configure these switches, I open notepad and then cut and paste the > LES/BUS addresses into SpeedView. That's the only way I've found to not > screw up the address. > > > > ..confused yet? > > > > Mike Smith > > > > >From: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "Bryant Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Cisco Group > Study" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Nortel/Bay ATM woes... > > >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:54:12 +0100 > > > > > >Hi All, > > >I was wondering if anyone in the group had any ATM experience > using Bay 5000 and Centillion 1600 ATM switches. > > >I'm trying to solve a problem with the LES/BUS and remote coop pairs > within the ELANs. When running a "show les" > > >that various ELANs show LES/BUS as partially and fully Optimal. In order > to get a greater understanding of the whole picture I'm now trying to figure > out what exactly does Fully/Partially Optimal mean. Currently all devices > join the various ELANs(12) but within those twelve ELANs various LES/BUS > pairs show up as fully and partially optimal. > > > > > >Does anyone have an idea as to what I'm rambling about? > > > > > >TIA > > > > > >Nigel > > > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccnp 2.0
anybody know of already published materials for working towards ccnp 2.0, thanks ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How far by self study?
Bragging isnt allowed until you have a CCIE # after your name... :) -Brad ""Lou Nelson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 010801bfe375$27c71320$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:010801bfe375$27c71320$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > a WOW... Impressive.. I mean I am impressed You should get a job > though... and if you tell me you did this while working a full time job... > then I quit > > Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aaron Prather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: How far by self study? > > > > I got the following certs all by self study: > > > > MCSE > > MCP+I > > MasterCNE > > CNE5 > > CCNP+Voice > > CCDP > > Network+ > > CCIE written test (hard test) > > > > All together that is almost 30 tests and no official courses, only books > > (and hands on.) > > > > Not bad for a 22 year old eh? :) > > > > Aaron > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
file can't be deleted on 3640
Hello, I copied IOS file to flash memory but got checksum error. I wanted to delete the file but failed. I used the command "delete flash:x" and got "no such file or directory" but "show flash" the file is there. How can I delete the bad flash? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file can't be deleted on 3640
sqeeze command possibly? ie. sqeeze filesystem: , purpose is to permanently delete deleted files, Jim Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello, > > I copied IOS file to flash memory but got checksum > error. I wanted to delete the file but failed. I used > the command "delete flash:x" and got "no such file > or directory" but "show flash" the file is there. > > How can I delete the bad flash? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jim > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP2.0..Important doubts
If you check the Cisco website: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht ml shows you that CCNA 1.0/2.0 are both suitable for the CCNP 2.0 track. Kevin Wigle CCDP, CCNP.. - Original Message - From: "NRS Hariharan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 01 July, 2000 17:23 Subject: CCNP2.0..Important doubts > Hi All, > I have completed my CCNA 640-407 and going to prepare for CCNP 2.0 > I would like to know if the older version of CCNA is enough to pursue my CCNP > 2.0 or has Cisco given any conditions to take the new version.. > > Thanks in advance, > > > hari > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How far by self study?
erm, interesting Richard Holland - Original Message - From: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:56 AM Subject: Re: How far by self study? > Bragging isnt allowed until you have a CCIE # after your name... :) > > -Brad > ""Lou Nelson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 010801bfe375$27c71320$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:010801bfe375$27c71320$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > a WOW... Impressive.. I mean I am impressed You should get a > job > > though... and if you tell me you did this while working a full time > job... > > then I quit > > > > Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Aaron Prather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:09 PM > > Subject: Re: How far by self study? > > > > > > > I got the following certs all by self study: > > > > > > MCSE > > > MCP+I > > > MasterCNE > > > CNE5 > > > CCNP+Voice > > > CCDP > > > Network+ > > > CCIE written test (hard test) > > > > > > All together that is almost 30 tests and no official courses, only books > > > (and hands on.) > > > > > > Not bad for a 22 year old eh? :) > > > > > > Aaron > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NAT and BGP
Actually, BGP can go through NAT. One of our engineers did it in our lab. It was through a Cisco PIX firewall. The neighbor statement on the outside was to a NAT'd address on the inside. BGP uses tcp/ip for it's neighbor establishment. So all you would need is a static translation and a rule to allow it to pass. Kenny - Original Message - From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 8:11 AM Subject: Re: NAT and BGP > >Our IOS running on a 7200 does not support NAT! We are at present running > >BGP, > > > >we need to start running NAT, > > > >The question is can you run both BGP and NAT on the same (7200) router ? > > > >thanks > > > >Tayta > > You'll have to watch both memory and CPU utilization, but there's no > fundamental reason they can't run together. Both do take lots of > resources. > > What does the TAC say about this? Any release/platform specific > considerations? > > Incidentally, BGP itself cannot go _through_ NAT. > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AS400 funny connectivity issues with Cisco 3660 router -any i deas here??
So you are doing DLSW through a firewall? The NAT and firewall issue would seem to be the problem, but with a firewall, even if the inside initiates the session, assuming it's a stateful firewall, will the outside still be able to initiate a ping from outside to inside? On a stateful firewall, once a translation is built from inside to outside, can the outside still initiate a separate session - say with a TCP SYN packet. Or an ICMP EchoI don't think so but I've been wrong before. This problem points to a classical mistake -- don't change to many things at one time. It makes it difficult to isolate the problem. I find it funny that Andrew said "The ONLY change was upgrade IOS, AS400 work, and firewall rebuilt." I don't have a resolution - but I would start at the firewall and AS400. Maybe take the routers back to the original code first. Not that there could possibly be a bug in the IOS Kenny - Original Message - From: "Kent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dao, Tien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Andrew Larkins'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: RE: AS400 funny connectivity issues with Cisco 3660 router -any i deas here?? > It sounds not only like firewall but also, more > specifically, like a NAT issue. > > Before the NAT table starts working, there is no way > for the outside to hit the inside, but when you fire > something up from the inside, the NAT table is > activated. > > Kent > > --- "Dao, Tien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem seems to be Firewall related. Assumming > > the remote workstation > > is from the outside of the firewall, it is not > > allowed to get back to the > > AS400 which is behind the firewall until the > > connection is initiated and > > establised from inside. Check your firewall access > > statement(s). > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew Larkins > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:44 AM > > To: Cisco Mail List > > Subject: AS400 funny connectivity issues with Cisco > > 3660 router -any > > ideas here?? > > Importance: High > > > > > > We have upgraded the router to IOS 12.1.2T from > > 12.1.1aT1. The remote site > > uses DLSw and IP to connect to the AS400. Some LAN > > users can ping he AS400, > > but others can not. All related LAN configs are > > correct. A trace from the > > router hits the destination, but from the > > workstation, it goes across the > > WAN to the main router, but then times out. The > > funny thing here is that if > > you ping the remote workstation that does not work > > from the AS400 directly, > > you get a reply and then the user can work and then > > ping the AS400 himself. > > I have checked the routes on the AS400 and all is ok > > -default route to the > > routers ethernet port. The only change is the > > software upgrade, some work > > was done on the AS400 and the firewall was rebuilt. > > I believe the issue to > > be with the AS400. > > > > Any input here is appreciated > > > > > > Regards > > > > Andrew Larkins > > BCom, CCNA > > Usko Communications > > Tel: +2711 800-9300 > > Fax: +2711 800-9495/6/7/8/9 > > Cell: +2783-656-7214 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > "This message may contain information which is > > confidential and subject to > > legal privilege. If you are not the intended > > recipient, you may not peruse, > > use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. > > If you have received > > this message in error, please notify the sender > > immediately by email, > > facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the > > original message." > > > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Routing Vs. ACRC
How is the new Routing exam compared to the ACRC exam? What are the differences in topics between the two? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCRAN
Which test would you guys recommend, BCRAN or CMTD? Is BCRAN a lot harder than CMTD? What are the specifics of each(# of questions, passing score) Thanks ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP2.0..Important doubts
At 09:23 PM 7/1/00 +0530, you wrote: >Hi All, > I have completed my CCNA 640-407 and going to prepare for CCNP 2.0 >I would like to know if the older version of CCNA is enough to pursue my CCNP >2.0 or has Cisco given any conditions to take the new version.. > >Thanks in advance, > > >hari http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pre-sales People
/ It sounds like Cisco is starting to get the Microsoft mentality. We're it and you "ain't" got no choice. This is unfortunate. The other cause could be bonuses. ERP brings bigger revenues and larger sales meaning bigger bonuses to. you guessed it. , the execs. And the edicts filter on down to the lower levels not to waste your time on small sales. \ -Original Message- From: Oz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:44 AM Subject: Pre-sales People >Brad, >All is not well in the cisco sales area.. I had a sales qoute from cisco >that had a pix box for 20 users and I said why not just use the fire wall >software ?? >Answer *not secure enough * > >My Cisco Inside Channel Account Manager does not return calls emails, >etc.. >His boss told me that "Cisco does not care about small biz " " thats the >3com market" > When I said to him that I wanted to focus on very small biz as the >mainsteam market seems to neglect them . he said *yes we do neglect them >.* >* Thats not where the money is * >This statement infuriated me and I reminded him that small biz is the life >blood of the American economy and still 40 % of the biz in this country >how the heck can you ignore it. >Specially considering the company I was working for only had 100 + workers >He had no answer and kept mumbling about enterprise customers. > >If I had the time I would take this up with cisco because it is pathetic. > Everytime I hear John Chambers now I want to puke , as the setup around >here is woeful. > At least I can rely on TAC > But right now I have a slab of work and I just buy stuff outside th cisco >channel and it's cheaper anyhow >So the Sales side is pretty sick . > So the only nice part about the inside sales dudes is they give you a >chnace to make some nice labor heh > >Oz >http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radius Question
Does anyone know if Radius Security has support do AAA (Authenticarion, Authorization, Accouting) as TACACS+ ? Because I did a simulate CCIE exam (certification zone) that had a comment Radius does not support AAA. I believe this information is not correct. If I'm wrong pls, correct me... Brgds, Wenderson ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pre-sales People
Cisco "Ride - the wave seems" to be the slogan! Sorry! Karl - Original Message - From: "Dick Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Oz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Pre-sales People > / > It sounds like Cisco is starting to get the Microsoft mentality. > We're it and you "ain't" got no choice. This is unfortunate. > The other cause could be bonuses. ERP brings bigger > revenues and larger sales meaning bigger bonuses to. > you guessed it. , the execs. And the edicts filter on down > to the lower levels not to waste your time on small sales. > \ > > -Original Message- > From: Oz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:44 AM > Subject: Pre-sales People > > > >Brad, > >All is not well in the cisco sales area.. I had a sales qoute from cisco > >that had a pix box for 20 users and I said why not just use the fire > wall > >software ?? > >Answer *not secure enough * > > > >My Cisco Inside Channel Account Manager does not return calls emails, > >etc.. > >His boss told me that "Cisco does not care about small biz " " thats the > >3com market" > > When I said to him that I wanted to focus on very small biz as the > >mainsteam market seems to neglect them . he said *yes we do neglect them > >.* > >* Thats not where the money is * > >This statement infuriated me and I reminded him that small biz is the life > >blood of the American economy and still 40 % of the biz in this country > >how the heck can you ignore it. > >Specially considering the company I was working for only had 100 + workers > >He had no answer and kept mumbling about enterprise customers. > > > >If I had the time I would take this up with cisco because it is pathetic. > > Everytime I hear John Chambers now I want to puke , as the setup around > >here is woeful. > > At least I can rely on TAC > > But right now I have a slab of work and I just buy stuff outside th cisco > >channel and it's cheaper anyhow > >So the Sales side is pretty sick . > > So the only nice part about the inside sales dudes is they give you a > >chnace to make some nice labor heh > > > >Oz > >http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm > > > >___ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Debug error Message
If that debug output is from debug isdn q931, I believe it means that the called party is not responding .. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/dbook/disd n.htm If you can, try running a debug on the other router to see if it even seens that a connection is trying to be established. Hope that helps Russ.. ""Tan Choh Koon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > What is "Cause i = 0x8292 - No user responding" mean ? > > > 07:22:47: ISDN BR0: Outgoing call id = 0x8010, dsl 0 > 07:22:47: ISDN BR0: Event: Call to 87321229 at 64 Kb/s > 07:22:47: ISDN BR0: process_bri_call(): call id 0x8010, called_number > 87321229, > speed 64, call type DATA > 07:22:201863462912: CC_CHAN_GetIdleChanbri: dsl 0 > 07:22:201863462912: Found idle channel B1 > 07:22:201863462912: ISDN BR0: TX -> SETUP pd = 8 callref = 0x10 > 07:22:204021615156: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890 > 07:22:201863462912: Channel ID i = 0x83 > 07:22:201863462912: Called Party Number i = 0x80, '87321229' > 07:22:47: ISDN BR0: RX <- CALL_PROC pd = 8 callref = 0x90 > 07:22:47: Channel ID i = 0x89. > 07:22:204021631044: ISDN BR0: received HOST_PROCEEDING call_id 0x8010 > Success rate is 0 percent (0/5) > hkl# > 07:23:07: ISDN BR0: RX <- DISCONNECT pd = 8 callref = 0x90 > 07:23:07: Cause i = 0x8292 - No user responding > 07:23:30064771072: ISDN BR0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x8010 > 07:23:30064771072: ISDN BR0: Event: Call to 87321229 was hung up. > > Choh Koon, Tan > CCDA,CCNP > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file can't be deleted on 3640
Erase your flash and reload. Use x-modem to send the new file down. Dont forget to change the config reg to 0x3920 and set your term prog to 115200bps -Brad "Jim Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello, > > I copied IOS file to flash memory but got checksum > error. I wanted to delete the file but failed. I used > the command "delete flash:x" and got "no such file > or directory" but "show flash" the file is there. > > How can I delete the bad flash? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jim > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pre-sales People
What is kinda sad was the fact that I was calling about an order for cisco works and pricing for about 20 sites each with a switch and router so the total sale would have been easily $200,000. For a rather large enterprise customer.. But thats Ok. I guess he will enjoy the humble pie when I fax him the signed PO.. Never get mad get even.. / It sounds like Cisco is starting to get the Microsoft mentality. We're it and you "ain't" got no choice. This is unfortunate. The other cause could be bonuses. ERP brings bigger revenues and larger sales meaning bigger bonuses to. you guessed it. , the execs. And the edicts filter on down to the lower levels not to waste your time on small sales. \ Thats fine too but then why was even talking to a company that no prior networking experience and aside from me,no one to deploy stuff even of they did manage to sell it. And to top it off an email basically telling me that they would do anything they can to assist provide 24 engineers to support me selling and yada yada yada Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Radius Question
Let's ask the question a different way. Does AAA support RADIUS? Answer: YES Does RADIUS have explicit support of AAA? Answer: NO >From the DOCS: AAA is the means through which you establish communication between your network access server and your RADIUS, TACACS+, or Kerberos security server. John Swartz ccie, ccnp, ccdp, mcse+i, mcsd, cne Boson Software and Training KRANG Router Simulator at http://www.routeru.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 4:51 PM Subject: Radius Question > > > Does anyone know if Radius Security has support do AAA (Authenticarion, > Authorization, Accouting) as TACACS+ ? > Because I did a simulate CCIE exam (certification zone) that had a comment > Radius does not support AAA. I believe this information is not correct. > If I'm wrong pls, correct me... > > Brgds, Wenderson > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Boson CCDA?
I purchased all three and they where useless for preparing for the CCDA. (In my opionion). I used the Sybex CCDA book, and practice your case studies.. I can't stress that enough. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey Groupies, > Sorry...couldn't wait for an answer. Too excited!!! ;) I got the test #1. > If anyone can give me good feedback on the others, I'll probably get one of > them also. Thanks group. ;) > > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA (Soon 2B CCDA) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "My peers always told me that growing up would have a huge impact on my > life... What they didn't tell me is that the size of the impact would knock > me on my ass"... > ~ Mark Z.~ > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna 2.0 online practice tests
mike, the techmindworks tests look good so far, but nobody i've talked to seems to know how many questions they have in all. it says on their site that the pool grows every day but i'm not sure if that's true for the demos or only for the full version. full version's only 15 bucks and i just signed up for the hell of it this morning. i figure i'd blow the money anyway, why not see what they got. it's supposed to cover the new 640-507 ccna exam and so far i'm getting some really tough questions. the site loads pretty fast and i like the straightforward look. at least they don't have huge graphics and the cgi's don't take forever to load (yet). i'll let you know what i find. - jb BTW i'd really like to see their routing 2.0 exams... let's do that one next. when are you taking the 507? __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CCNA V2 !
Do you have the ISBN # for that Cisco Press Book by any chance? ""Bayne, James"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message D1D937EF0E0FD311ADC800600815C30301A3A4EC@SVVAN330">news:D1D937EF0E0FD311ADC800600815C30301A3A4EC@SVVAN330... > Well I just got back from passing the 640-507 exam with a 913 ! :) > 65 questions 822/1000 to pass. > > > What did I use to study ?? www.cisco.com and the new CISCO Press CCNA book > in addition to Todd's 407 book. > I am going for a beer ! > > Thanks to all on the list. > > > James Bayne > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Works
Cisco works uses the same packets as CDP, so the ciscoworks station must be able to send CDP like packets to the switches, if you able to do so, then you are set. -- On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:02:58 News Cisco wrote: >not sure >but if u r trying to access/monitor ur devices through resourse manager & u >can telnet/tftp the remote sites then definitely u'll be able to remotely >administrator all the devices coz as far as i know it uses three methods to >give u access to ur remote sites for monitering/administration >tftp >telnet >rcp > >'Bliss' > >Jeff Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> I have a question concerning Cisco Works. We are planning to roll out >> various Cisco switches to our offices (1900 and 3500 series switches) in >the >> US. All 12 offices will be connected through VPN tunnels using Watchguard >> hardware. My question is will I be able to see all of the switches to >> perform remote administration through the VPN using Cisco Works? >> >> Thanks, >> Jeff >> >> ___ >> UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --- > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccnp 2.0
There seems to be a lot of concern about the migration to the so called CCNP 2.0 track. First of all, the certification is CCNP. There are no levels, no hierarchy of values. My BA degree is of the same relative value as the BA of a 1950 graduate or a 1999 graduate. A CCIE who attained his certification is no different than a CCIE who got the cert last month. Second of all while I appreciate the anxiety, the fact is that the core competencies will remain unchanged. Know your access lists. Know the Cisco troubleshooting methodology. Know OSPF, EIGRP, Token Ring, ISDN and DDR, switches, VLAN's, spanning tree, VTP. Know how to configure and how to troubleshoot. That means show and debug commands and outputs. Yes, there is more BGP now. As far as "2.0" materials, what is a book titled "CCNP 2.0" going to say about OSPF that a book titled "CCNP 1.0" doesn't say? Also, there are a wealth of materials freely available on CCO. All the books draw upon this material. If you have the means, spend some time familiarizing yourself with what is available. I am currently using two different CID/CCDP books as part of my test preparation. One of those books, The Cisco Press publication, even goes so far as to refer readers to CCO for many subjects where more detail is required. So you know that CCO has it all. Just concentrate on learning the technologies. The rest will take care of itself. HTH Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tayta Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:ccnp 2.0 anybody know of already published materials for working towards ccnp 2.0, thanks ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ACRC Tips
Hi Friends, I am preparing for ACRC any tips, material, links are requested. Swapnil Jain (CNE, MCSE, CCNA) ICQ# 45074571 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
