RE: what is dark fiber?

[Gabriel . Neagoe]

Hello,

as far as I understood from the ISP's the "dark fiber" is the equivalent of
a leased line:
the ISP provides you the Physical connectivity between the endpoints, but
they do not provide any routing
This kind of commercial offer is mainly used by ISPs that use DWDM on their
fibers and they can offer one wavelength to you.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Fomes Iain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:04 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:  RE: what is dark fiber?
> 
> 
>  this is a misconception.
> Dark fiber or Dark fibre as we can it here in England.God save the Queen
> an
> all that is actually a fibre based product that enables long distances to
> be
> covered.Where as fibre has approximatley a 2km depth,  Dark fibre is able
> to
> run for much longer lengths.
> i have seen it used for up to 20 30 40 miles
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Richard Dennard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   05 September 2000 19:53
> > To: bahadir korkmaz
> > Cc: Cisco
> > Subject:RE: what is dark fiber?
> > 
> > dark fiber is a term usually used by providers to indicate fiber that
> does
> > not have light passing over it (unused).
> > 
> > Richard Dennard
> > Network Engineer
> > HY_SPEED_DATA
> > phone 814-260-3966
> > fax 814-274-7370
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > bahadir korkmaz
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:04 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: what is dark fiber?
> > 
> > 
> > hi.
> > what is dark fiber?
> > i found some sites that says dark fiber means unused fiber.
> > is it so?
> > i think dark fiber must be different then unused fiber.
> > i mean for example. 10gigabit ethernet runs on dark fiber.
> > dark must be something related to bandwidth or wavelength.
> > 
> > if someone knows dark fiber definition i ll be happy.
> >
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Re: Help with Cisco 2621 please

[whatshakin]

That is exactly what happens!  This router is 
only a few months old too.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Adam Hickey 
  
  To: whatshakin 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 2621 
  please
  
  What do you mean? You do a "sh int" and you don't 
  see e0/0 and e0/1?
   
  Adam Hickey
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
whatshakin 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 
9:36 PM
Subject: Help with Cisco 2621 
please

I just booted my 2621 and I cannot see any of 
the fast ethernet interfaces!  Anyone got any idea off the top of their 
head what it could be?  I am looking through docs to figure out my next 
step right now.   Help please...
 
Cheers

RE: Cisco 2501

[Gabriel . Neagoe]

Hello Benny

the info on 2501 memory can be found here:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/cis2500/2501/
2500ug/maint.htm

from my experience I can tell youthat you can put there usual computer 72
pin FPM simms (not EDO); if you have an old 486 in some dusty corner get the
memory and put it in the router

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> -Original Message-
> From: Benny Leong [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:25 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Cisco 2501
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I believe this question has been asked by somebody.  Can you point me the
> link to what type of memory can be added to a very old Cisco 2501 ?
> Thanks.
>  
>  

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PIX security manager

[zhencai]

Dear friends,

I'm trying to load PIX security manger 1.1 on a NT4 (SP5) machine but it
asked for SP4. I tried to modify NT registry to make  security manager think
it's dealing with SP4 but no success. Is there a work around? I hate to
reload everything.

Thanks a lot.


Zhen Cai

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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #615

[Paul Werner]

Currently, doing a design for a client where there are 2 server 
subnets,
> and
> about 4 user subnets; routing acheived with a NetBuilder 
(3Com).
> There are also 3 IPX networks (Novell Servers) which are 
being used -
> legacy
> file/print servers, all the user subnets need to be able to 
see the
> Novell
> Servers.
> 
> The plan is to move over to an entirely switched LAN setup.
> The existing IP subnets, I'm mapping over to there own 
individual
> VLAN's,
> with a layer-3 card, in one of the Catalyst's providing 
routing between
> the
> VLAN's.
> 
> My question really is, what about the IPX traffic? Does this 
need to be
> mapped to it's own VLAN, or can it "ride" the existing IP 
VLAN's?
> If IPX gets mapped to it's own VLAN, how do you assign a 
physical port
> to
> multiple VLAN's (ie., IP and IPX), inlight of the fact that 
some of the
> end
> devices have multiple protocol stacks configured?
> 
> I've not been able to find much information relating to how 
IPX in
> particular, or for that matter any other protocol traffic 
(ie.,
> AppleTalk),
> traverses a switched network???
> 
> Any help and/or pointers would be most welcome :-)

A couple of thoughts.  Look at VLANs for what they are, namely 
broadcast domains.  There is not necessarily any need to put a 
host on a separate VLAN just because it is running a different 
routed protocol.  Think in terms of total broadcasts for all 
hosts on the VLAN as a percentage of total traffic.  Use 
guidelines spelled out in "Top Down Network Design," by 
Priscilla Oppenheimer for rules of thumb for max number of 
hosts on a VLAN (see page 103).  That is a good starting 
point.  There is a larger issue however, and it deals with a 
topic you have not mentioned.  You are about to migrate to a 
switched network and you have not mentioned anything about MLS, 
or multilayer switching.  MLS will provide the ability to route 
at wire speed.  Nowadays, the fastest routers are able to 
perofrm at approximately 275k pps rate.  With MLS properly 
configured, you can increase that well beyond the 1Mpps rate.

Since the BCMSN course does not spend much time on IPX MLS, I 
will attempt to cover a few of the basics.  First, there are 
only *two* MLS modes (unlike the three available in IP MLS).  
They are destination mode and destination-source mode.  If you 
are not using any interior IPX access lists, you will run in 
destination mode and performance will be very zippy.  OTOH, if 
you have IPX access lists, you will kick into destination-
source mode for your MLS flows.  This has zero effect on 
performance if you are using *outbound* IPX access lists.  If 
you used inbound IPX access lists, then every single packet 
will be routed :-( 

You will need MLS capable switches with the approrpriate 
hardware (CAT5k and 6k et al with NFFC) and an internal 
RSM/RSFC or an extrnal MLS capable router.  The only other 
restriction is that IPX accounting cannot work with MLS on, and 
the transport control max value field must be set to a value 
greater than 16 when using EIGRP for the routing protocol. Also 
most of the fields in an IPX extended access list will likely 
preclude the use of IPX MLS.

More to be found here (watch wrap):

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/
120newft/120t/120t5/ipxmls.htm#xtocid208561

HTH,

Paul Werner



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Re: Help with Cisco 2621 please

[whatshakin]

The version IOS on it saw the interfaces right 
after I tftp'd it to the router.  This is the first reboot after that 
installation a couple of days ago.  

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jack 
  To: whatshakin 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Help with Cisco 2621 
  please
  
  Cisco IOS software version maybe ?
  
-Original Message-From: 
whatshakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 
ÐÝìðôç, 7 Óåðôåìâñßïõ 2000 8:09 ðìSubject: Help with Cisco 
2621 please
I just booted my 2621 and I cannot see any of 
the fast ethernet interfaces!  Anyone got any idea off the top of their 
head what it could be?  I am looking through docs to figure out my next 
step right now.   Help please...
 
Cheers

no display on terminal

[nandit]

Dear Group,
I have a 1602 router which was working fine.All of a sudden hyperterminal
went blank.I am not able to get any display other than the cursor the
console cable and the hyperterminal works fine with the other 1602
router,2500 router and the 1900 switch.On checking the boot led indicators
on the defective router the led flashes on and stabilises as explained in
the manual,meaning router bootup is ok..however the terminal remains blank.
Is something gone with the hardware or is it something simple which i cannot
figure out,please help

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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problems with modem commands

[Yee, Jason]

hi all,

I read the BCRAN course materials and there is one line under
troubleshooting modem autoconfiguration that I do not quite understand that
I need all of your help :

It goes this way :

If you configured your own modemcap entry and reconfiguraton appears to
function , verify that DTR attribute is not set to &D3 , why is that so??


Jason

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Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification?

[Richard Tran]

I already have my CCNA 1.0. Do I have to take the CCNA 2.0 to count toward
CCNP 2.0 ?




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WIC-2A/S back-to-back cables?

[Greg Reaume]

Hi there,

I have a lab that has 2 2621s with a WIC-2A/S in each.

Does anyone know what cables I need to connect these two routers
back-to-back (DCE-DTE) to simulate a frame relay cloud?  Or, if possible,
please provide the cables and layout needed to connect 3 routers with this
interface to have 2 end points and 1 switch?

TIA

--
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Re: Win2k SNMP Traffic

[Kevin Wigle]

I don't understand a few things in your post.

First, I have had W2K Pro and Server in the lab and our findings are that
W2K Pro does NOT install SNMP by default but Server DOES.  So the W2K Pro
machines  should be ok. (like I said, that's our findings from doing the
installs ourselves, Dell is maybe doing their own idea of pre-config).  This
was further shown to us as W2K of all stripes is forbidden from the network
until it is rolled out properly.  People install W2K server not knowing that
SNMP is installed by default with the "public" community string.  Our SNMP
management tools pick them up immediately and we catch them and shut them
down and they wonder how we found them so fast.

W2K Pro on the other hand is more difficult to find and we use non-SNMP
methods to find them.

Next, SNMP has nothing to do with Network Neighbourhood.  On my last network
of over 12,000 devices, PCs show up in the 'Hood and they DON'T have SNMP
configured.  Only the servers, printers and routers/switches have SNMP
enabled.

Network Neighbourhood has a lot to do with WINS and browsing.

So, what is probably happening is that W2K Pro machines are assuming the
Master Browser Role for their subnets as NT (W2K Pro) is higher on the
browser ladder than Win9x.  Also, W2K Pro needs to be registered in the
Domain Computer database so automatically the browse tables know about more
computers than with Win9x.

So, I'm not sure how to "fix" your problem.  Actually what you're seeing is
normal for a NT Workstation (W2K Pro).  The only thing I can think of
quickly is to disable browser advertisements of the W2K Pro machines.

Also a lot of work unless it can be incorporated into a security policy
applied to all W2K Pro machines at login.

Offhand, I don't know of a way to target specific computer types in an IOS
ACL.  Trapping SNMP would disable SNMP for all devices.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP/MCSE.

- Original Message -
From: "Deepak Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, 06 September, 2000 23:17
Subject: Win2k SNMP Traffic


> Ok here's the scenario.
>
> Multiple branch offices,( LAN, WAN> slowest 56k and  fastest oc3) and
> cisco routers from 1900's to 3600's )
>
> PDC, and a whole lota BDC's.  NT 4.0 PDC and BDCs; still wanna see the
> those computers when I go into network neighbor hood.
> BT.Dell is now shipping all there new Pc's with win2k
> professional, and refuse to go back to win9x for me. ((
> ba*tards))this causes me to have alota headache, cause win2k has
> SNMP traffic enabled by Default when we get them...and now  I can start
> to see all the new win2k machines in network neighbor hood.  This is a
> problem due to security reasons and management and blah blah blah...and
> there's NO possible way I can go, or tell the techy there to go to
> disable SNMP traffic on all the new comps!!!I was thinking about
> goin to all the branch offices and config. the routers to block snmp
> traffic ( port 161 off the top of my head ),
>
> So is there any way i can block SNMP traffic on win2k professional from
> the routers..cause i still wanna see the pdc and bdc's.but this
> is not too important...I just REALLY need to stop those win2k machines
> from appearing on network neighborhood
>
> " access-list 100 deny  snmp win2kpro"   hahah
>
>
> thanks
>
> Deepak Sharma
> MSCE  CCNA  ACT  A+
> Ceridian Canada Ltd.
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RE: Radius authentication on 2924XL

[Keith Sharratt]

This works.

aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default tacacs+ 
aaa authentication enable default tacacs+ 
aaa authorization exec tacacs+ 

tacacs-server host 202.53.36.171 port <>
tacacs-server key <>

Cheers,
Keith

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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Radius authentication on 2924XL




Hi,

Any one implement radius authentication on Cisco cat 2924XL ? I can't find
"radius-server host" command in configuration mode. I added "aaa new-model"
and "aaa authentication login VTY group radius local".

My IOS version is  12.0(5.1)XP.


thanks,
Ibam

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RE: dns

[Ibrahim]

yup ... try this one http://www.3dns.com/

I heard Microsoft using that product.


Ibam

> that's if you use "bind" , other nameservers will react differently.
>
> Carlos
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leonard Ong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Nurarif Wibawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:29 AM
> Subject: RE: dns
>
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >You Can't if you use dual entries like that,
> >the DNS will round robin the request into 50-50%
> >chance that a same name will resolve to A's and B's IP.
> >
> >However, You could use one box with win2k or linux or unix
> >using alias feature.
> >
> >So in this case if you're using double dns entries, you'll
> >get 1/2 probably success attempt if one of the link gone
> >broke.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Leonard Ong, ST, CCNP R&S Voice, CCDP R&S, CSE, SAIR&GNU LCP, MCP, BCP
> >PT. Internusa Data Digitalindo
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Nurarif Wibawa
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:38 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: dns
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I need a solution for the configuration below:
> >
> > Internet
> > | |
> > | |
> > ISP A ISP B
> > | |
> > | |
> >   Customer
> >  |
> >   Web Server
> >
> >Web Server will has 2 IP addresses, one will be given by ISP A and the
> other
> >one will be given by ISP B.
> >Primary DNS server is on ISP A and secondary DNS server is on ISP B.
> >The DNS server on ISP A has two records for customer's web server, for
> >example :
> >www  a   10.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP A)
> >www  a   20.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP B)
> >The goal is to use dual ISP for back-up purpose, so the web server will
> >serve for 24 hour / day.
> >Since the DNS server only load balance between two same host records, how
> >about if one link is broken ?
> >For example :
> >Link from ISP B to Customer is broken, meanwhile someone in Internet is
> >accessing the web server and the DNS server give him the IP address of
> >20.0.0.1, so the session will time out. He will has an access to
> web server
> >until the DNS server give him the IP address of 10.0.0.1 (because the DNS
> >server load balance these two records).
> >Are there any solutions to solve this problem, so the DNS server could
> >detect the unreachable IP address and after that it would give
> the correct
> >reachable IP address to the client ?
> >
> >Thank you
> >
> >
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Help with Cisco 2621 please

[whatshakin]

I just booted my 2621 and I cannot see any of the 
fast ethernet interfaces!  Anyone got any idea off the top of their head 
what it could be?  I am looking through docs to figure out my next step 
right now.   Help please...
 
Cheers

Re: ISDN, Dialer Guru Question!

[Wind]

Try some deubg some command like debug isdn q921 
see what do you get first
 

  Andre Fecteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...I 
  configured some routers for ISDN, but one of the spids is coming up invalid 
  can anyone tell me why?  I put the BRI configurations for both sides as 
  well as the error message that I'm getting.  Can someone help me fix this 
  problem?  By the way I called the service provider and they said 
  everything is OK regarding the ISDN lines and spids.  I can telnet and 
  other things, but I just can't get both channels to come up at the same 
  time.  And obviously at least from my limited knowledge base the invalid 
  spid has something to do with that!  I've been pulling my hair out over 
  this one for a few days!  I'd like a solution, but all suggestions are 
  more than welcome!!! 
  Both side have this: isdn switch-type basic-ni isdn 
  voice-call-failure 0 isdn tei-negotiation first-call 
  One side interface BRI1/1  ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x 
   ip nat inside  encapsulation ppp  dialer map ip 
  y.y.y.y name y broadcast yyy(first #)  dialer map ip y.y.y.y name 
  y broadcast yyy(second #)  dialer load-threshold 10 either 
   dialer-group 1  isdn switch-type basic-ni  isdn 
  spid1 xx xxx  isdn spid2 xx xxx 
   ppp authentication chap  ppp multilink ! 
  Other side: ! interface BRI1/0  ip address y.y.y.y 
  y.y.y.y  encapsulation ppp  dialer map ip x.x.x.x name x 
  broadcast xxx(first #)  dialer map ip x.x.x.x name x broadcast 
  xxx(second #)  dialer load-threshold 1 outbound 
   dialer-group 1  isdn switch-type basic-ni  isdn 
  spid1 yy yyy  isdn spid2 yy yyy 
   ppp authentication chap  ppp multilink ! 
  This is the ISDN status :  The other side is the same except 
  both spids are valid! Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni ISDN BRI1/0 
  interface     dsl 8, interface ISDN 
  Switchtype = basic-ni     Layer 1 Status: 
      ACTIVE     
  Layer 2 Status:     TEI = 73, Ces = 
  1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED 
      TEI = 74, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, 
  State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED 
      TEI 73, ces = 1, state = 
  5(init)     
  spid1 configured, spid1 NOT sent, spid1 valid 
      
  Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 40, tid = 1 
      TEI 74, ces = 2, state = 
  4(await init) 
      
  spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid     Layer 
  3 Status:     0 Active Layer 3 
  Call(s)     Activated dsl 8 CCBs = 0     
  The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003 
   Help! Andre   
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  CNE3, 4 & CCNA   

Monitoring New Circuit Install Software

[Adele Galus]

To those who have been there and done it!

Is there a monitoring software that will show connectivity on a circuit
that is just up and live
on a new install? For the most part what is used is the line command -
ping to the furthest point.
Any suggestions?

Much appreciated.

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ISDN, Dialer Guru Question!

[Andre Fecteau]

I configured some routers for ISDN, but one of the spids is coming up invalid
can anyone tell me why?  I put the BRI configurations for both sides
as well as the error message that I'm getting.  Can someone help me
fix this problem?  By the way I called the service provider and they
said everything is OK regarding the ISDN lines and spids.  I can telnet
and other things, but I just can't get both channels to come up at the
same time.  And obviously at least from my limited knowledge base
the invalid spid has something to do with that!  I've been pulling
my hair out over this one for a few days!  I'd like a solution, but
all suggestions are more than welcome!!!
Both side have this:
isdn switch-type basic-ni
isdn voice-call-failure 0
isdn tei-negotiation first-call
One side
interface BRI1/1
 ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
 ip nat inside
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip y.y.y.y name y broadcast yyy(first #)
 dialer map ip y.y.y.y name y broadcast yyy(second #)
 dialer load-threshold 10 either
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 xx xxx
 isdn spid2 xx xxx
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
Other side:
!
interface BRI1/0
 ip address y.y.y.y y.y.y.y
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip x.x.x.x name x broadcast xxx(first #)
 dialer map ip x.x.x.x name x broadcast xxx(second #)
 dialer load-threshold 1 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 yy yyy
 isdn spid2 yy yyy
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
This is the ISDN status :  The other side is the same except
both spids are valid!
Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni
ISDN BRI1/0 interface
    dsl 8, interface ISDN Switchtype
= basic-ni
    Layer 1 Status:
    ACTIVE
    Layer 2 Status:
    TEI = 73, Ces = 1, SAPI
= 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
    TEI = 74, Ces = 2, SAPI
= 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
    TEI 73, ces = 1, state =
5(init)
   
spid1 configured, spid1 NOT sent, spid1 valid
   
Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 40, tid = 1
    TEI 74, ces = 2, state
= 4(await init)
   
spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid
    Layer 3 Status:
    0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
    Activated dsl 8 CCBs = 0
    The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
 Help!
Andre
 
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show modemcap command

[Yee, Jason]

hi, 

The show modemcap command depends on IOS version or hardware? What I mean is
when I can issue the show modemcap command is it IOS specific or hardware
specific?


Jason

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Radius authentication on 2924XL

[Ibrahim]

Hi,

Any one implement radius authentication on Cisco cat 2924XL ? I can't find
"radius-server host" command in configuration mode. I added "aaa new-model"
and "aaa authentication login VTY group radius local".

My IOS version is  12.0(5.1)XP.


thanks,
Ibam

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PRI dial out

[Jim Bond]

Hello,

I have a 5200 router with 2 T1 PRI installed. Users
can dial in (using analog modem), but this router
won't dial out. Debug isdn q931 shows that there is
something wrong between my router and local teleco.
Local teleco said I have to change the type of call or
number plan (sounds pretty weird).

How do I do it in 5200?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?

[T. Miller]

Agreed. In my experience of self-studying for MS, Novell, and Cisco certs,
I've found each company's official curriculum to be a better source of
information than any third party material I've tried...especially for
overall knowledge and not just getting a passing score on an exam.

Tracy Miller

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> Hi guys -
>
> I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill
> Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco
> OSPF book) - and they stink.  I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress
> books if I were you.  Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs
> are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices."  'Nuff said.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bradley J. Wilson
> CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Seth Wilson
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
>
>
> Hi Tracy,
>
> I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well.  I believe--someone
correct
> me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available
> save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to
> the Routing 2.0 exam.  I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam,
> and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press
book
> is available for that for certain.  I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are
> also available though.  Best of luck.
>
> ~Seth~
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Cisco online test

[Mensah, James]

Can someone give me the link to the Cisco online testing. Thanks
Jimmy

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Network Essential book

[akirasen]

hi,group
  Can some one suggest me a good book for Network
Essential,include the OSI,WAN protocols and so on,which can help me
build a solid fundamental to keep on  study in the Network field.
 Thanks!!!

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just a test

[akirasen]

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Re: free book (introduction to network analysis)

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Thanks for the heads up.

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RE: IPX RIP Updates

[Shawn T. Carroll]

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Dusty Harper wrote:

>IPX RIP Packets are advertised every 60 seconds as are IPX SAP
>Packets...A lot of Implementations stagger the two protocols to lessen
>the broadcasts simultaneously. (RIP  SAP  RIP
> SAP )  This is still broadcasting every 60 seconds
>though.

Speaking of which, how many people have extended this time interval for
the sake of your wide-area links?  We had decided to double the interval
to 120 sec (and double the flush-timer from 180 to 360 sec), for each IPX
RIPs and SAPs, and aren't any worse for it, from what I can tell.

Shawn T. Carroll
Network Support Specialist
Alltel Information Services
Williston, VT
802 872 2933

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Win2k SNMP Traffic

[Deepak Sharma]

Ok here's the scenario.

Multiple branch offices,( LAN, WAN> slowest 56k and  fastest oc3) and
cisco routers from 1900's to 3600's )

PDC, and a whole lota BDC's.  NT 4.0 PDC and BDCs; still wanna see the
those computers when I go into network neighbor hood.
BT.Dell is now shipping all there new Pc's with win2k
professional, and refuse to go back to win9x for me. ((
ba*tards))this causes me to have alota headache, cause win2k has
SNMP traffic enabled by Default when we get them...and now  I can start
to see all the new win2k machines in network neighbor hood.  This is a
problem due to security reasons and management and blah blah blah...and
there's NO possible way I can go, or tell the techy there to go to
disable SNMP traffic on all the new comps!!!I was thinking about
goin to all the branch offices and config. the routers to block snmp
traffic ( port 161 off the top of my head ),

So is there any way i can block SNMP traffic on win2k professional from
the routers..cause i still wanna see the pdc and bdc's.but this
is not too important...I just REALLY need to stop those win2k machines
from appearing on network neighborhood

" access-list 100 deny  snmp win2kpro"   hahah


thanks

Deepak Sharma
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Win2k SNMP Traffic

[Deepak Sharma]

Ok here's the scenario.

Multiple branch offices,( LAN, WAN> slowest 56k and  fastest oc3) and
cisco routers from 1900's to 3600's )

PDC, and a whole lota BDC's.  NT 4.0 PDC and BDCs; still wanna see the
those computers when I go into network neighbor hood.
BT.Dell is now shipping all there new Pc's with win2k
professional, and refuse to go back to win9x for me. ((
ba*tards))this causes me to have alota headache, cause win2k has
SNMP traffic enabled by Default when we get them...and now  I can start
to see all the new win2k machines in network neighbor hood.  This is a
problem due to security reasons and management and blah blah blah...and
there's NO possible way I can go, or tell the techy there to go to
disable SNMP traffic on all the new comps!!!I was thinking about
goin to all the branch offices and config. the routers to block snmp
traffic ( port 161 off the top of my head ),

So is there any way i can block SNMP traffic on win2k professional from
the routers..cause i still wanna see the pdc and bdc's.but this
is not too important...I just REALLY need to stop those win2k machines
from appearing on network neighborhood

" access-list 100 deny  snmp win2kpro"   hahah


thanks

Deepak Sharma
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Ceridian Canada Ltd.
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anyone know what is the diffrence bwteen networker2k's presentation

[jin zuren]

anyone know what is the diffrence bwteen networker2k's presentation(your
link bellow and the australian
version),http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw00/pres/pdf2000.htm,http://www.cisco.com/networkers/au/presentations/,it
seems  a lot diffrence.

jin zuren

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Re: Cisco 805 Router serial port

[Erick B.]

Watch the wrap...

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/805/805hwin/index.htm

DCE
 EIA/TIA-232
 Female
 CAB-SS-232FC
 
DTE
 EIA/TIA-232
 Male
 CAB-SS-232MT
 
DCE
 EIA/TIA-449
 Female
 CAB-SS-449FC
 
DTE
 EIA/TIA-449
 Male
 CAB-SS-449MT
 
DCE
 EIA/TIA-530
 Female
 CAB-SS-530FC
 
DTE
 EIA/TIA-530
 Male
 CAB-SS-530MT
 
DCE
 EIA/TIA-530A
 Female
 CAB-SS-530AFC
 
DTE
 EIA/TIA-530A
 Male
 CAB-SS-530AMT
 
DCE
 X.21
 Female
 CAB-SS-X21FC
 
DTE
 X.21
 Male
 CAB-SS-X21MT
 
DCE
 V.35
 Female
 CAB-SS-V35FC
 
DTE
 V.35
 Female
 CAB-SS-V35FT
 
DCE
 V.35
 Male
 CAB-SS-V35MC
 
DTE
 V.35
 Male
 CAB-SS-V35MT
 

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> I have a new 805 that has me stumped. All other
> serial interfaces Ive
> seen use a DB-60 connector but this one has one Ive
> not seen before in
> fact its not DB-anything. Checked the online cisco
> docs and have seen
> no mention of this connector before. Show interfaces
> does have a
> serial port for S0 but cant for the life of me
> figgure out what cable
> is used here.


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Re: dns

[Carlos Patriawan]

that's if you use "bind" , other nameservers will react differently.

Carlos

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>Hello,
>
>You Can't if you use dual entries like that,
>the DNS will round robin the request into 50-50%
>chance that a same name will resolve to A's and B's IP.
>
>However, You could use one box with win2k or linux or unix
>using alias feature.
>
>So in this case if you're using double dns entries, you'll
>get 1/2 probably success attempt if one of the link gone
>broke.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Regards,
>Leonard Ong, ST, CCNP R&S Voice, CCDP R&S, CSE, SAIR&GNU LCP, MCP, BCP
>PT. Internusa Data Digitalindo
>
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>Nurarif Wibawa
>Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:38 PM
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>Subject: dns
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I need a solution for the configuration below:
>
> Internet
> | |
> | |
> ISP A ISP B
> | |
> | |
>   Customer
>  |
>   Web Server
>
>Web Server will has 2 IP addresses, one will be given by ISP A and the
other
>one will be given by ISP B.
>Primary DNS server is on ISP A and secondary DNS server is on ISP B.
>The DNS server on ISP A has two records for customer's web server, for
>example :
>www  a   10.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP A)
>www  a   20.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP B)
>The goal is to use dual ISP for back-up purpose, so the web server will
>serve for 24 hour / day.
>Since the DNS server only load balance between two same host records, how
>about if one link is broken ?
>For example :
>Link from ISP B to Customer is broken, meanwhile someone in Internet is
>accessing the web server and the DNS server give him the IP address of
>20.0.0.1, so the session will time out. He will has an access to web server
>until the DNS server give him the IP address of 10.0.0.1 (because the DNS
>server load balance these two records).
>Are there any solutions to solve this problem, so the DNS server could
>detect the unreachable IP address and after that it would give the correct
>reachable IP address to the client ?
>
>Thank you
>
>
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Re: netbios, whats it good for?

[Scott Nelson]

I can tell you how to get rid of Netbios, 
get rid of Windoze machines.

Netbios is encapsulated within IP
( assuming you are using IP on WinXX machines ), even if you don't have
Netbeui loaded. One of the best ways to minimize netbios broadcasts in your
network is to have a WINS server or servers and manually set the winblows
machines to WINS only mode so that it gets it's name lookups from the WINS
server only and not from broadcast or hybrid mode.

That's the simple version of it. Way too long a subject to talk about here
as this is a Cisco study forum.
I minimize all broadcasts by keeping my VLANs under 200 devices and route
between VLANs.
Assuming your NT server services and workstations are setup correctly, you
shouldn't have a real big issue anyway.

I run Appletalk on my network as well, and you're right, Netbios does a lot
more bandwidth damage than Appletalk does.  ;-)

Scott



> And who said AppleTalk was chatty? Someone who had never used a Sniffer to
> watch a PC running NetBIOS for Microsoft networking. &;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 08:38 PM 9/6/00, David Williams wrote:
>>Netbios: access vs. excess. You decide.
>>
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>> > pod books that suggested netbios was not a good thing
>> > to have too much on the network. I just recently took
>> > a look at my network and i see a TON of it flying
>> > around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
>> > can you tell me what this netbios would be good for
>> > and if nothing how do i get rid of it?
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study partner in NJ NY CT

[king Net]

Any group outside the list who want to study together in the Tristate area 
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OSPF summarization metrics

[Felice Russell]

Helo Folks,
I have run into a bit of an oddity. In code 11.3 and 12.1 when you use ospf
address summarization the routes advertised have the best route metric. With
code 12.0 it has the worst path metric. Which is correct?
Several people I have spoken with said the 12.0 code is handeling the
metrics roperly but I fail to see the benefit of this. Any input would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Felice
MCSE, CCNP

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RE: Passed CCIE Written!

[Yee, Jason]

congratulations , what materials did you use for preparation?

Jason

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Just passed CCIE Written!  Finished the test in one hour. It was fairly 
easy.

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Re: Latest SW version for CAT5K

[Chris Korent]

Just go to the latest release notes.  They have a matrix that shows you the
minimum and recommended software levels for each blade.  Here is a link that
shows this...

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/c5krn/sw_rns/78_
5861.htm#xtocid296315

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think it is 4.5(7) but I'm not sure. Is there a link to
> verify this?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
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RE: bcran

[Yee, Jason]

I think the passing score is 706, number of questions are 61

Jason

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please tell me the pass score of bcran and the number of the questions of
bcran
thanx


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Re: Passed CCIE Written!

[Ronald James]

Congrats!!!  Keep going...


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Re: netbios, whats it good for?

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

And who said AppleTalk was chatty? Someone who had never used a Sniffer to 
watch a PC running NetBIOS for Microsoft networking. &;-)

Priscilla

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>Netbios: access vs. excess. You decide.
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> > to have too much on the network. I just recently took
> > a look at my network and i see a TON of it flying
> > around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
> > can you tell me what this netbios would be good for
> > and if nothing how do i get rid of it?
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Re: Cisco 805 Router serial port

[Jeremy land]

It's called a smart serial cable. This is the only router Cisco used it
on.The big problem with 805 is that max rate on the serial is 512k.

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> I have a new 805 that has me stumped. All other serial interfaces Ive
> seen use a DB-60 connector but this one has one Ive not seen before in
> fact its not DB-anything. Checked the online cisco docs and have seen
> no mention of this connector before. Show interfaces does have a
> serial port for S0 but cant for the life of me figgure out what cable
> is used here.
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Cisco 805 Router serial port

[Hurin]

I have a new 805 that has me stumped. All other serial interfaces Ive
seen use a DB-60 connector but this one has one Ive not seen before in
fact its not DB-anything. Checked the online cisco docs and have seen
no mention of this connector before. Show interfaces does have a
serial port for S0 but cant for the life of me figgure out what cable
is used here.

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Re: IPX RIP Updates

[Erick B.]

Watch the wrap.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/np2_r/2ripx.htm#8680

ipx update interval

Default

The default interval is 60 seconds for both IPX
routing updates and SAP updates.

Good luck.

--- Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My CCDA Study Guide has conflicting statements
> concerning the update
> frequency of IPX RIP. One place says 30 secs, same
> as IP RIP; another table
> says 60 secs. Which is correct? Please help, my CCDA
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Re: netbios, whats it good for?

[David Williams]

Netbios: access vs. excess. You decide.

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> I was recently reading through one of laura chappels
> pod books that suggested netbios was not a good thing
> to have too much on the network. I just recently took
> a look at my network and i see a TON of it flying
> around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
> can you tell me what this netbios would be good for
> and if nothing how do i get rid of it?
> thanks
> Beth
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RE: dns

[Leonard Ong]

Hello,

You Can't if you use dual entries like that,
the DNS will round robin the request into 50-50%
chance that a same name will resolve to A's and B's IP.

However, You could use one box with win2k or linux or unix
using alias feature.

So in this case if you're using double dns entries, you'll
get 1/2 probably success attempt if one of the link gone
broke.

Thanks


Regards,
Leonard Ong, ST, CCNP R&S Voice, CCDP R&S, CSE, SAIR&GNU LCP, MCP, BCP
PT. Internusa Data Digitalindo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Nurarif Wibawa
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dns


Hi,

I need a solution for the configuration below:

 Internet
 | |
 | |
 ISP A ISP B
 | |
 | |
   Customer
  |
   Web Server

Web Server will has 2 IP addresses, one will be given by ISP A and the other
one will be given by ISP B.
Primary DNS server is on ISP A and secondary DNS server is on ISP B.
The DNS server on ISP A has two records for customer's web server, for
example :
www  a   10.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP A)
www  a   20.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP B)
The goal is to use dual ISP for back-up purpose, so the web server will
serve for 24 hour / day.
Since the DNS server only load balance between two same host records, how
about if one link is broken ?
For example :
Link from ISP B to Customer is broken, meanwhile someone in Internet is
accessing the web server and the DNS server give him the IP address of
20.0.0.1, so the session will time out. He will has an access to web server
until the DNS server give him the IP address of 10.0.0.1 (because the DNS
server load balance these two records).
Are there any solutions to solve this problem, so the DNS server could
detect the unreachable IP address and after that it would give the correct
reachable IP address to the client ?

Thank you


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RE: Cisco Lan Switching book

[Tom Walstrom]

I've been reading selected parts of this book, which is excellent, but token
ring bridging and switching is covered only briefly.

Regards

Tom Walstrom | SELCO | WAN Manager
2600 19th St. NW | Rochester, MN 55901
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Henrique Issamu Terada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:02 PM
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Subject: Cisco Lan Switching book


Hi group

Does anybody know if the book Cisco Lan Swtiching cover Token Ring switches
, like Catalyst 3900 ?

thanks

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified

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Re: dns

[Nurarif Wibawa]

Hi,

But the customer doesn't have their own registered IP addresses and there
are no peering agreement between ISP A and ISP B. I think it is a good idea
to move DNS inside the customer's network like Jay said before.

Thank you

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Subject: RE: dns


> Hello,
>
> I think is best to use only one address, and do BGP to your ISPs (moving
DNS
> inside your network is a good idea also).
>
>
> ---
> Gabriel Neagoe, GN379-RIPE
> Networking solutions consultant
> CCNP, CCDA
> S&T Romania
> tel: +401 20 40 300
> fax: +401 20 40 310
> ---
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nurarif Wibawa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:38 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: dns
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need a solution for the configuration below:
> >
> >  Internet
> >  | |
> >  | |
> >  ISP A ISP B
> >  | |
> >  | |
> >Customer
> >   |
> >    Web Server
> >
> > Web Server will has 2 IP addresses, one will be given by ISP A and the
> > other one will be given by ISP B.
> > Primary DNS server is on ISP A and secondary DNS server is on ISP B.
> > The DNS server on ISP A has two records for customer's web server, for
> > example :
> > www  a   10.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP A)
> > www  a   20.0.0.1  (IP address given by ISP B)
> > The goal is to use dual ISP for back-up purpose, so the web server will
> > serve for 24 hour / day.
> > Since the DNS server only load balance between two same host records,
how
> > about if one link is broken ?
> > For example :
> > Link from ISP B to Customer is broken, meanwhile someone in Internet is
> > accessing the web server and the DNS server give him the IP address of
> > 20.0.0.1, so the session will time out. He will has an access to web
> > server until the DNS server give him the IP address of 10.0.0.1 (because
> > the DNS server load balance these two records).
> > Are there any solutions to solve this problem, so the DNS server could
> > detect the unreachable IP address and after that it would give the
correct
> > reachable IP address to the client ?
> >
> > Thank you
> >

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Re: IPX RIP Updates

[Hubert Pun]

IPX RIP update is 60sec



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Stoopid Kwuestion?

[Sysco Cid]

After changing the config register is it 
possible to have the router look for images from multiple 
locations?
 
Example:
Router(config)# boot sys flash c2500-d-l.120-5.binRouter(config)# boot sys tftp c2500-d-l.120-5.bin 192.168.100.10Router(config)# boot sys flash c2500-d-l.112-19.binRouter(config)# boot sys tftp c2500-d-l.112-19.bin 192.168.100.10 Router(config)# boot sys romThanks in advance for your help. 

Re: New Way to Study in the Internet

[Collin]

I felt like being "that guy" so I checked it out and it provides a
high-speed looking GUI that has shortcuts to the Cisco website. If your
smart enough to figure out how to add a favorite in your particular browser,
there really is no need for it.

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> http://www.ultrabrowser.com/ehcacon/jsp/new_download.jsp
>
> Just download the browser. once your download the install will do the
rest.
> After installation run the Browser ( Ultrabrowser Icon on your desktop).
>
> I have created an account for you to login and have access to the latest
> Networking tools tips provides by cisco...
>
> Use the Myultra account. login using:
> user id: cisco
> password: cisco
>
> http://www.ultrabrowser.com/ehcacon/jsp/new_download.jsp
>
> Note: You could alway create your own virtual MyUltra and transfer any
links
> from Cisco to Your mYultra fro your convenience.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ultrabrowser.com/ehcacon/jsp/new_download.jsp
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Re: IPX RIP Updates

[vlan2]

Novell is very fond of things that take 60 seconds.
Almost everything IPX does, takes 60 seconds...

:)



> My CCDA Study Guide has conflicting statements concerning the update
> frequency of IPX RIP. One place says 30 secs, same as IP RIP; another
table
> says 60 secs. Which is correct? Please help, my CCDA exam is Friday
> afternoon. Thanks
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RE: IPX RIP Updates

[Dusty Harper]

Title: RE: IPX RIP Updates






IPX RIP Packets are advertised every 60 seconds as are IPX SAP Packets...A lot of Implementations stagger the two protocols to lessen the broadcasts simultaneously. (RIP  SAP  RIP  SAP )  This is still broadcasting every 60 seconds though.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:16 PM

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Subject: IPX RIP Updates



My CCDA Study Guide has conflicting statements concerning the update

frequency of IPX RIP. One place says 30 secs, same as IP RIP; another table

says 60 secs. Which is correct? Please help, my CCDA exam is Friday

afternoon. Thanks


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hi,who want to download the bcran test questions?

[cslx]

please go to best.163.com/~blfzr to download it


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Re: Online Bookstores

[Mark Patrick]

Try this link...

http://isbn.nu

Have the isbn ready. And get the

best buy...

R/ Mark

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>
> http://www.addall.com/
>
> http://www.bestbookbuys.com/
>
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>
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> bunch of online bookstores - one of them usually has it for much less than
> the others.  My usuals are:
>
> bookpool.com
> fatbrain.com
> borders.com
> cbd.booksonline.com
>
> Capitalism rocks.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: New Way to Study in the Internet

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

I don't know what it is, but I certainly wouldn't install a new browser 
from a source that I had never heard of!? &;-)

I suspect that they aren't doing anything malevolent and they just have no 
clue how to do marketing, but who knows?

Priscilla


At 06:14 PM 9/6/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>/
>Aside from what the posting says, does anyone know what this is about?
>Is this sponsored by Cisco?
>What's the catch?
>\
>
>
>Quoting Mahmoud Harb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > http://www.ultrabrowser.com/ehcacon/jsp/new_download.jsp
> >
> > Just download the browser. once your download the install will do the rest.
> > After installation run the Browser ( Ultrabrowser Icon on your desktop).
> >
> > I have created an account for you to login and have access to the latest
> > Networking tools tips provides by cisco...
> >
> > Use the Myultra account. login using:
> > user id: cisco
> > password: cisco
> >
> > http://www.ultrabrowser.com/ehcacon/jsp/new_download.jsp
> >
> > Note: You could alway create your own virtual MyUltra and transfer any
> > links
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Re: default password for catalyst 2800

[rick]

Try here
www.securityparadigm.com/defaultpw.htm
Rick

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Clay Stuckey wrote:

>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 02:38:07 -0400
>From: Clay Stuckey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: group study <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: default password for catalyst 2800
>
>Anyone know that the default password would be or any factory installed
>passwords for any model?
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Fw: All CCNA 2.0 & CCNP 2.o Beta Questions - FREE

[Cbridgett]

I second that emotion! I also agree Frank's response could have expressed
the same strong opinion in another way.


o
"...to hell with what other people think, I'm ridin' my own broom!" L. M.

Cynthia Bridgett, raised in SE DC
   and proud of it!
CCNA, MCSE, CNE, CNA, MCP, A+

o



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
JL
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 1:00 PM
To: Syed Faisal Ashraf
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Fw: All CCNA 2.0 & CCNP 2.o Beta Questions - FREE


What you are proposing is not help, but a method of cheapening the
certification for those of us who have worked and studied hard to achieve
our goals. A person will find greater worth in something if they have to
work to attain it, instead of having it given to them. You cheapen the
certifications and anyone you "assist" in this manner (yourself included).
This list IS about helping others, not about helping each other to "cheat"
more effectively. I find your commentary about about Mr. Haun to be as
offensive to me, as his language was to you (FWIW, I do not approve of his
language, only the sentiment expressed by it).

JL

MCP CCNA

(worked and studied for both)

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Syed Faisal Ashraf
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To: Frank Haun
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: All CCNA 2.0 & CCNP 2.o Beta Questions - FREE



This message is for Mr. Frank Haun.

Our elders tell us to think before speaking but
probably that doesn't apply to idiots like you because
that would require grey matter inside your skull which
you don't have. It is very easy to make enemies but it
takes courage to make friends. I am quite sure you and
Muhammad or for that matter I don't know each other,
then where is this hatred coming from Mr. Frank Haun.
Do you feel so insecure about your skills that you are
afraid that helping others to pass CCNA or CCNP will
jeopardies your job. I subscribed to this mailing list
to help and be helped. But if someone out there needs
help, how does it matter if they get little feed back
from this forum. So for next time I hope you will use
what ever is left of your grey matter in the benefit
of others. I really respect those who post answers on
this forum knowing they will not get anything out of
it.

This message is for Muhammad,

Dear Muhammad,

Someone posted the address of this following web site
earlier on this discussion group: www.sasaschool.com
Cisco site is also full of good info.

--- Frank Haun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> would you need the
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>
> Muhammad wrote:
>
> > I am also in need of a copy of the CCNP questions
> and
> > material regards,Muhammad
> > - Original Message -
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> > To: JJE ; CiscoKing ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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> > 2000 9:52 PMSubject: Re: All CCNA 2.0 & CCNP 2.o
> Beta Questions - FREE
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > I would like a copy of CCNP questions and
> material.
> >
> > I have finished my CCNA and am preparing for my
> CCNP.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would be greateful to you
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > warm regards
> >
> >
> >
> > manoj
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IPX RIP Updates

[Jeff Williams]

My CCDA Study Guide has conflicting statements concerning the update
frequency of IPX RIP. One place says 30 secs, same as IP RIP; another table
says 60 secs. Which is correct? Please help, my CCDA exam is Friday
afternoon. Thanks

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Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?

[Bradley J. Wilson]

Hi guys -

I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill
Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco
OSPF book) - and they stink.  I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress
books if I were you.  Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs
are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices."  'Nuff said.

Sincerely,

Bradley J. Wilson
CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT


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From: Seth Wilson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?


Hi Tracy,

I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well.  I believe--someone correct
me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available
save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to
the Routing 2.0 exam.  I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam,
and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book
is available for that for certain.  I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are
also available though.  Best of luck.

~Seth~

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Re: Cisco Lan Switching book

[andy lennon]

I could say "read the bok and find out", but I won't.

There is nothing in there that will teach you about Token Ring switches, but
(and a big but), it is truly exceptional book if you are prepared to learn
about layer 2 issues.  It is the kind of book which gives you answers but at
the same time, if you need more, gets you digging deep into RFC's .  This is
probably the Best Seller at my company (a Cisco GP)

Well worth the 50 quid

Buy the damn thing.

Andy Lennon
CCNP/DP/MS thingy

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> Hi group
>
> Does anybody know if the book Cisco Lan Swtiching cover Token Ring
switches
> , like Catalyst 3900 ?
>
> thanks
>
> Henrique Issamu Terada
> CPM Comunicações - Brazil
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Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?

[Seth Wilson]

Hi Tracy,
 
I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well.  I 
believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the 
CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) 
which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam.  I'm presently studying for the 
Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) 
Cisco Press book is available for that for certain.  I believe the BCRAN 
and CIT books are also available though.  Best of luck.
 
~Seth~

Re: New Way to Study in the Internet

[dsilva]

/
Aside from what the posting says, does anyone know what this is about?
Is this sponsored by Cisco?
What's the catch?
\


Quoting Mahmoud Harb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> http://www.ultrabrowser.com/ehcacon/jsp/new_download.jsp
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> After installation run the Browser ( Ultrabrowser Icon on your desktop).
> 
> I have created an account for you to login and have access to the latest
> Networking tools tips provides by cisco...
> 
> Use the Myultra account. login using:
> user id: cisco
> password: cisco
> 
> http://www.ultrabrowser.com/ehcacon/jsp/new_download.jsp
> 
> Note: You could alway create your own virtual MyUltra and transfer any
> links
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> 
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Cisco Lan Switching book

[Henrique Issamu Terada]

Hi group

Does anybody know if the book Cisco Lan Swtiching cover Token Ring switches
, like Catalyst 3900 ?

thanks

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified

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Cisco Recertification

[Thomas Trygar]

http://www.cisco.com/warp/partner/synchronicd/cc/serv/mkt/cert/career/rece_ds.htm

(need partner access for this URL)

Recertification Policy

Cisco Career Certifications at the Associate and Professional levels
(CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP certifications) are valid for three years. CCIE
certifications
and Cisco Specializations are valid for two years. Valid certifications
may be renewed indefinitely or extended. Without timely renewal,
individual career
certifications expire or become inactive. Note: Extension occurs when a
certificate holder advances to the next level.


Recertification—How

To renew certifications, holders must register for-and pass-the
appropriate Cisco recertification exams. Recertification exams are
regularly offered worldwide. Valid
certifications may be renewed indefinitely. For CCIE certificate
holders, renewal requires passing a recertification test and attending
specific sessions at Networkers
conferences.

 For CCNA and CCDA recertifications, the exam is simply the current
version of the appropriate exam.

 The Professional level has different recertification exams for CCNP
and CCDP certifications. Questions for these exams are drawn from the
several exams
 currently in use for each certification.

 For Specializations, the recertification exam is simply the current
version of the appropriate exam. (Network Management has two exams.)


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free book (introduction to network analysis)

[Lauren Child]

Hiya,

Free book alert and demo CD from network associates on their sniffer
package.

register here -

http://networkassociates.worldatamail.com/cgi-bin/mail.dll?A282

TTFN
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Cisco Hardware Wanted:

[Dwayne Chin]

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E-Learning Courses for BCMSN and BCRAN?

[T. Miller]

Has anyone tried these, and if so, know how much they cost?

Thanks.

T. Miller


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RE: netbios, whats it good for?

[Ole Drews Jensen]

"NetBIOS, huh, what is it good for, absolutely nothing, say it again"

Actually, you can read an explanation about it here:

http://whatis.techtarget.com/WhatIs_Definition_Page/0,4152,212633,00.html

(watch for wordwrap)

Hth,

Ole

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 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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-Original Message-
From: beth shriver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: netbios, whats it good for?


I was recently reading through one of laura chappels
pod books that suggested netbios was not a good thing
to have too much on the network. I just recently took
a look at my network and i see a TON of it flying
around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
can you tell me what this netbios would be good for
and if nothing how do i get rid of it?
thanks
Beth

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Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?

[Neil Schneider]

Some of the cisco books are already available.  I am reading the BCRAN book
now.

Neil


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> I am readying myself to start in on the CCNP track, having completed the
> CCNA 1.0 back in Feb/99 (and being on hiatus from Cisco work until now).
>
> Does anyone know if/when Cisco Press books will be available for the CCNP
> 2.0 track?
>
> Also, I'm considering a specialization (i.e. an extra exam from what I
> understand) in either security or Voice-over-IP...any advice?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tracy Miller, CCNA
>
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Re: Portfast ???

[whatshakin]

I see no reason you cannot bring up both switches at the same time. Once the
2924C has been up for a minute or so you can start pulling the patch cables
from the old switch and start putting them in the new one.  Your switch over
time will be essentially painless as long as the new switch is configured
correctly.


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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:32 AM
Subject: Portfast ???


> I'm swapping out a 2900XL with a 2924C XL to give us Fiber capability.
Since
> we have customers on the current switch I want to keep down time to a
> minimum. One suggestion has been to, on the new switch put it into
portfast
> mode.
>
> Has anyone done this before? Are there any problems you encountered or
> things I should be aware of?
>
> Just a quick note today
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Ed
> CCNA
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Please remove my name from the list, thanks.

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RE: ISDN BRI dialout help

[jenny . mcleod]

"debug ppp auth" could also be useful.  I haven't used it for pap, but it has
surprisingly meaningful messages for chap.

JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 07/09/2000 08:45 am
---


Andrew Lennon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/09/2000 02:55:57 am

Please respond to Andrew Lennon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   "Stull, Cory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Todd Plambeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
Subject:  RE: ISDN BRI dialout help



This is on a UK/Europe switch so this is the correct router.

Try "ppp auth pap callin" to avoid trying to authenticate your far end
router (providing they use pap).
change the ip route statement to:
"ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 interface bri0 perm" to fix the routing issue

let us know how you get on

Andy Lennon
ccnp/dp/msce

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Stull, Cory
Sent: 06 September 2000 15:55
To: Todd Plambeck
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISDN BRI dialout help


Todd,

He wouldn't have gotten connected if that was the problem.  It looks more
like an authentication type problem.   Just a guess...

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From: Todd Plambeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Zafar'
Subject: RE: ISDN BRI dialout help


The Cisco 2503 has an S/T ISDN Interface NOT a U interface. Meaning you need
an NT-1 Adapter to connect to the ISDN line from the telco.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 8:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISDN BRI dialout help



Hello,

I am trying to configure ISDN BRI for dialout using 2503 but could not
connect to remote access server of the ISP. I have taken a ISDN dialup
account from ISP and it has given me "userid", passwd and dialup number. I
tried these through normal dialup (windows dun) and it connects succesfully.
Now I have following configuration for my 2503 router but this could not
connect. Please advise if I am missing something as I am new to ISDN and
doing it for the first time


!
interface BRI0
 ip address negotiated
 ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip split-horizon
 dialer idle-timeout 2147483
 dialer string 1214
 dialer hold-queue 10
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication pap
 ppp pap sent-username  password 

!
ip route 204.71.200.45 255.255.255.255 BRI0

!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit


when I ping 204.71.200.45 , following appears on the terminal:


Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 204.71.200.45, timeout is 2 seconds:

00:58:39: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 64 changed to up
00:58:40: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:1, changed state to up
00:58:46: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:1 is now connected to 1214 .
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)

00:59:03: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI0:1  disconnected from 1214 ,
cal
l lasted 22 seconds
00:59:03: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:1, changed state to down
00:59:05: %ISDN-6-LAYER2DOWN: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 64 changed to
dow

sh in bri0

BRI0 is up, line protocol is up (spoofing)
  Hardware is BRI
  Internet address will be negotiated using IPCP
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
  Last input 00:00:01, output 00:00:01, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 01:09:44
  Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
 Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
 Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 536 packets input, 3389 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 534 packets output, 3376 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 13 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 35 carrier transitions




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Re: HW rev for FE PA,2-Ports

[Jay Hennigan]

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, STRAND Scott wrote:

> Is there a command to show the HW revision of a FE 2 port card that 
> is in a 7207 VIP? I looked at the show controllers options and
> didn't find what I was looking for.

show diag

HTH.

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Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?

[T. Miller]

I am readying myself to start in on the CCNP track, having completed the
CCNA 1.0 back in Feb/99 (and being on hiatus from Cisco work until now).

Does anyone know if/when Cisco Press books will be available for the CCNP
2.0 track?

Also, I'm considering a specialization (i.e. an extra exam from what I
understand) in either security or Voice-over-IP...any advice?

Thanks.

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Re: cisco documentation

[Vern Stitt]

Hi Computer Services,

The answer to this and many other questions is in the archives.  It's one of
the best tools that we have!

The Cisco Documentation CD works on Windows 2000. It's because the Verity
search engine does not use or recognize the search path. - %ProgramFiles%,
as you'll see in the registry.


To get the Cisco documentation to work under Windows 2000:

- Completely uninstall and remove all the related files from a failed
installation of the documentation CD first!

- Run regedit

- Locate HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/IE4/Setup/Path

- Change the value from "%programfiles%\Internet Explorer" to the location
where IE is installed on your system, for example "C:\Program Files\Internet
Explorer".

- Install the Documentation CD

HTH,

Vern Stitt
ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE

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000e01c0180e$60495000$b70b80cb@shamikh">news:000e01c0180e$60495000$b70b80cb@shamikh...
Hi guys ,
i m having a problem when ever i install cisco documentation cd .
i installed the software and when i launch documentation cd it does not show
any thing .(it does not come to loop back address 127.x.x.x what i think it
suppose to do so )but when i explore that cd and click to index or home html
files it show main page .but when i click to any of the link , it shows code
.i made sure that my explorer settings are not to show source code. i m
having same problem in netscape too.
will u  please tell me how can i fix this problem
Thanks in advance.
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Re: netbios, whats it good for?

[T. Miller]

You know that handy-dandy feature in Windows called Network Neighborhood?
Remove NetBIOS and you won't see any other workstations on the network.

T. Miller
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> I was recently reading through one of laura chappels
> pod books that suggested netbios was not a good thing
> to have too much on the network. I just recently took
> a look at my network and i see a TON of it flying
> around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
> can you tell me what this netbios would be good for
> and if nothing how do i get rid of it?
> thanks
> Beth
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Re: Passed CCIE Written!

[T. Miller]

Congrats!

What did you use to prepare, and how much hands-on have you had with Cisco
gear?

Tracy Miller, CCNA

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RE: I want download cisco IOS,who can help me?

[Ledwidge, Feargal]

Buy smartnet - which will legally allow you to do this  antything
otherwise is theft.

Feargal

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Subject: I want download cisco IOS,who can help me?


HI
  I want to know who can give me free cco account,so I can down load some
IOS to update my router.please!
   thank you very much
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Re: cisco documentation

[computer services]

  may i have the link ?
  thanks
  Theres a fix on their website...you must make a Registry mod to make it 
  work.
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  Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:20 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  RE: cisco documentation 
  You 
  must be using W2K which isn't supported until this month by the DOC 
  CD.
  
-Original Message-From: computer services [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:23 AMTo: 
groupstudySubject: cisco documentation Importance: 
Low
Hi guys ,
i m having a problem when ever i install cisco 
documentation cd .
i installed the software and when i launch 
documentation cd it does not show any thing .(it does not come to loop back 
address 127.x.x.x what i think it suppose to do so )but when i explore that 
cd and click to index or home html files it show main page .but when i click 
to any of the link , it shows code .i made sure that my explorer settings 
are not to show source code. i m having same problem in netscape 
too.
will u  please tell me how can i fix this 
problem
Thanks in advance.
Muhammad

Re: Cable ????????

[Vern Stitt]

10/100BaseT Nodes - Router, PC, Network Printer, etc.

10/100BaseT Bus Products - Hub, Switch

Straight Through Cable - Connecting a Node to a Bus Product.

Crossover Cable - Connecting like items such as a node to a node or a bus to
a bus.

Vern Stitt
ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE


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Can someone tell me when should I use a cross over cable and when should I
use a straight-through cable? Always get confuse. Thank you.


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Re: Help Requested-CCIE LAB

[csmacd]

Hopefully I'll be able to answer some of your questions...

1.  In the lab, you'll have one scenario.  This will cover many topics,
however.
2.  You may see anything listed on the website.  The topics you've listed
may very well appear, as can many others.  Percentages can vary from lab to
lab.
3.  Look on the website www.cisco.com;  You'll find an equipment list - any
or all of this equipment may appear.
4.  I wouldn't think about machines - rather, interfaces and protocols.  The
equipment list will help here as well.
5.  Advice?  Hands-on experience, the more the better.  For reference
materials, Caslow's book is good, but I would supplement it with Internet
routing Architectures and Jeff Doyle's book.  Know backwards and Forwards
everything on the blueprint
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/rsblueprint.html)

HTH,
-A
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Dear CCIE and CCIE Aspiring Friends


I trust that this find you doing well. Friends I would request for your kind
help on following info/input regarding CCIE LAB exam.

1. How many total Lab Scenarios would be given?
2. Will Lab have scenarios on SNA/DLSW/ATM & ATM LANE/Appletalk/DECnet or
not. If there then what would be there percentage(out of total).
3.What would be  major areas and what model of equipment(Cisco Boxex) would
be there(site do indicate but would appreciate your personal experience) ?
4. In a worts/complex Lab scenario, how many Routers/Switches could be
possible.
4. Any specific advice or reference material for the LAB.

I would highly appreciate for your kind support.

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Re: HDLC, SDLC...

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

Another thing to keep in mind is that Cisco does not use a standard HDLC 
header. That's why PPP is recommended for interoperability with non-Cisco 
devices. Cisco doesn't take advantage of any of the reliability features of 
standard HDLC, and Cisco added a field to the header to identify the next 
layer up, such as IP, DDP, DECnet, etc.

Cisco's HDLC has been discussed many times on this list, so check the 
archives for more details.

Priscilla


At 05:34 AM 9/6/00, michael champion wrote:
>They are all based on the original work done by IBM for SDLC. SDLC uses a
>complicated master-slave scheme that is not used in the other protocols.
>However, the fields in all of the frames of the protocols mentioned were
>basically derived from a special case of the SDLC protocol.
>
>Regards,
>MLC
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netbios, whats it good for?

[beth shriver]

I was recently reading through one of laura chappels
pod books that suggested netbios was not a good thing
to have too much on the network. I just recently took
a look at my network and i see a TON of it flying
around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
can you tell me what this netbios would be good for
and if nothing how do i get rid of it?
thanks
Beth

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Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from work!

[Dale Holmes]

But it happens all the time! I personally know one CCIE who has never 
actually worked on a production system... yet I *would* trust her to do so 
anytime...

It can be done.

Dale
[=`)

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>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
>
>So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all?  I 
>seriously
>hope not.
>
>Rishard
>
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>otherwise
>my
> > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not from
> > working with system integrator?
> >
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> > Vincent
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RE: HW rev for FE PA,2-Ports

[Craig Johnson]

Do a show diagbus , where slot is the slot that the VIP is in.  HTH.

Craig Johnson

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STRAND Scott
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Subject: HW rev for FE PA,2-Ports


Is there a command to show the HW revision of a FE 2 port card that is in a
7207 VIP? I looked at the show controllers options and
didn't find what I was looking for.

Thanks,
Scott

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Re: HW rev for FE PA,2-Ports

[andy lennon]

I take it this is to do with the bug on the pa-2fe ?

try a "sh diag"

Chances are, if it was installed less than 6 months ago, you are no
affected.

Andy Lennon
ccnp/dp/ms thingy


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> didn't find what I was looking for.
>
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> Scott
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HW rev for FE PA,2-Ports

[STRAND Scott]

Is there a command to show the HW revision of a FE 2 port card that is in a 7207 VIP? 
I looked at the show controllers options and
didn't find what I was looking for.

Thanks,
Scott

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Re: netbios, whats it good for?

[Karen . Young]

This has a good explanation of what NetBIOS is good for (and I use the term
loosly):
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd2004.htm#xtocid263537


but here is the specific sentance that tells it all... "NetBIOS stations
issue broadcasts for several reasons: to verify at startup that a station
name is unique to the network, to find the route to a particular server,
and to provide a heartbeat function to maintain connectivity between
servers and requesters."

You see alot of it on a Windows network. You CAN get rid of it but the
functionality that NetBIOS provideds on Windows networks is then lost and
you end up having lookup/accessibility problems.

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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respond to 
  
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I was recently reading through one of laura chappels
pod books that suggested netbios was not a good thing
to have too much on the network. I just recently took
a look at my network and i see a TON of it flying
around! capturenet shows:tcp->NETBIOS-SSN
can you tell me what this netbios would be good for
and if nothing how do i get rid of it?
thanks
Beth

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Re: Cable ????????

[E A Moran]

Use a crossover when connecting a router to another router or a PC to a
Router. Use a Straight-Through when connecting a hub/switch to a router or a
pc to a hub/switch.
--
E A Moran
Network Engineer
TeleCommunication Systems, Inc.
http://www.telecomsys.com

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>
>
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Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from work!

[Rishard Chapoteau]

So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all?  I seriously
hope not.

Rishard


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> Now I finished my CCNP.   I should go for the CCIE, otherwise
my
> ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not from
> working with system integrator?
>
> Thanks
> Vincent
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VOIP capability in the 5000\6000 series switches

[Jeff Walzer]

Do either the 5000 or 6000 series switch support VOIP? If so, is any thing
lost by going with a switch vs. a 3600 series router to do VOIP?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Cable ????????

[Rah Sta]

Can someone tell me when should I use a cross over cable and when should I 
use a straight-through cable? Always get confuse. Thank you.


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Re: Latest SW version for CAT5K

[Karen . Young]

The "recommended" version of the software should be whatever meets you
needs best. You have to take into account memory requirements, what you
want it to do, bugs, and security holes. Its not as easy as saying "this is
what you need" without bothering to check what your needs are. The one size
fits all approach doesn't work too well.

If you're short on memory but your needs are modest, an older version of
the software might work better for you. On the other hand, if you want to
implement everything under the sun, you might want to make sure you have
enoiugh memory and get the latest release that has the features you need.
Might be a good idea to stay a version number or two back from the latest
releast though (such as 5.4 instead of 5.5).

Just my .02

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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nobody@groupst 
   
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07:30 AM   
   
Please respond 
   
to STRAND  
   
Scott  
   
   
   
   
   



What is the latest software version that Cisco recommends for CAT5K's. I
think it is 4.5(7) but I'm not sure. Is there a link to
verify this?

Thanks,
Scott

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IPX and IP Mapping to VLAN's

[ciscolab]

Hi All!

Currently, doing a design for a client where there are 2 server subnets, and
about 4 user subnets; routing acheived with a NetBuilder (3Com).
There are also 3 IPX networks (Novell Servers) which are being used - legacy
file/print servers, all the user subnets need to be able to see the Novell
Servers.

The plan is to move over to an entirely switched LAN setup.
The existing IP subnets, I'm mapping over to there own individual VLAN's,
with a layer-3 card, in one of the Catalyst's providing routing between the
VLAN's.

My question really is, what about the IPX traffic? Does this need to be
mapped to it's own VLAN, or can it "ride" the existing IP VLAN's?
If IPX gets mapped to it's own VLAN, how do you assign a physical port to
multiple VLAN's (ie., IP and IPX), inlight of the fact that some of the end
devices have multiple protocol stacks configured?

I've not been able to find much information relating to how IPX in
particular, or for that matter any other protocol traffic (ie., AppleTalk),
traverses a switched network???

Any help and/or pointers would be most welcome :-)

Later...
Tweetie <:)

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Re: Passing score on CVOICE 1 Exam

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

720

At 08:04 AM 9/6/00, Craig Henriques wrote:
>Does anyone know what the passing score on the CVOICE 1.0 exam is??
>
>Thanks,
>
>Craig
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Re: Nobody able to help me ?

[Karen . Young]

ifTable = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2
Contains a number of OIDs you want to look at)

ifNumber = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.1
The number of interfaces/ports on the device - careful with this one, it
includes the virtual interfaces as well as the physical ones

Under ifTable (part of the standard RFC 1213 MIB - you probably already
have it compiled) are a number of values that can be gathered per
port/interface. You need to walk through them and determine which instances
of each OID you want monitored. Getif is a good program for this or you can
use a regular SNMP package like Castlerock's SNMPc.

# = number of the instance you want monitored. This generally conforms to
the ifIndex value of the port/interface.
ifIndex = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.1.#
ifDescr = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2.#
ifType = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.3.#
ifMtu = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.4.#
ifSpeed = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.5.#
ifPhysAddress = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.6.#
ifAdminStatus = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.7.#
ifOperStatus = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.8.#
ifLastChange = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.9.#
ifInOctets = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.#
ifInUcastPkts = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.11.#
ifInNUcastPkts = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.12.#
ifInDiscards = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.13.#
ifInErrors = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14.#
ifInUnknownProtos = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.15.#
ifOutOctets = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.#
ifOutUcastPkts = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17.#
ifOutNUcastPkts = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.18.#
ifOutDiscards = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.19.#
ifOutErrors = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.#
ifOutQLen = 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.21.#



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Piatnitchi Cristian
 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
UKoil.com>cc:  
 
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Piatnitchi Cristian
 
   
 
   
 



Hi all

I have to monitor the traffic for 3 ports configured to work in trunking
Is there any possibility to monitor these values trough the SNMP ?
Does anybody know the OID and the mib that should I compile for that ?

Thanks in advance
Cristian Piatnitchi

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RE: Mostly OT thought as I wake up

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

Depends on whether we're using Big Endian (non-canonical) or Little Endian 
(canonical). &;-)

Priscilla


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>There are so many posts about reverse telnet.
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Re: IOS Firewall Feature set vs PIX

[Jeremy Wadhams]

I tend to use the Firewall feature set in places where I need serious router
functionality in addition to basic firewalling.  Keep in mind that a PIX can't
do WAN modules, can't do BGP, and does not speak the same IOS we all know and
love.

Of course, in case cost does factor into your design, the IOS upgrade on a
7200VXR, costs the same as a PIX515 bundle.

Jeremy Wadhams
CCNA CCDA CCSE

Oscar Rau wrote:

> This is a bit confusing when it comes to Cisco security products.
> What is the advantage of buying a PIX when I have a Cisco IOS with the
> Firewall feature set?
>
> It looks like it is doing a lot of packet inspection too. Does IOS Firewall
> feature set support stateful information? Please let me know any major
> advantages of using PIX over IOS Firewall feature set.
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Passed CCIE Written!

[Dave Malik]

Just passed CCIE Written!  Finished the test in one hour. It was fairly 
easy.

...on to the LAB!


















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Re: HDLC, SDLC...

[Karen . Young]

These are all Layer 2 protocols. This site has some very good explanations
of the differences.
 http://www.sangoma.com/tutorial.htm


LLC2 = IEEE 802.2 Logical Link Control Type 2. Used by SNA and NetBIOS on a
LAN.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/lan.htm#LLC

LAPD = Access protocol on ISDN D channel. Ensures error free transmission.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/isdn.htm#LAPD

HDLC = Sets the framing structure for synchronous communications and is
responsible for the error-free movement of data between network nodes.
There are two different implementations of HDLC, HDLC NRM (also known as
SDLC) and HDLC LAPB. NRM is MAster/slave. LAPB is peer-to-peer.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/x25.htm#HDLC

LAPB = CCITT adaptation of HDLC. Used to carry X.25 commands and control
frames. Supports full-duplex operations and is peer-to-peer (neither end
plays the role of master on a permanent basis).
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/x25.htm#LAPB

SDLC = Developed by IBM. Performes the layer 2 functions of the SNA
hierarchy. SDLC is virtually identical to HDLC Normal Response Mode and was
developed to replace the Bisynchronous protocol for WAN connections between
IBM equipment. Primarily half-duplex but is capable of supporting
full-duplex. Not a peer-to-peer protocol like HDLC/LAPB, X.25, and
Frame-Relay.
 Frame Format: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/sna.htm#SDLC



Nope this helps,

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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Dear all,

I am a little bit confused about the difference of
framing between hdlc, sdlc, lapb, lapd, llc2.

Can someone help me?

Thank you, cvp.



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Re: Access Lists !!!

[David Ristau]

the difference would be if you were using standard or extended access
lists.

apply standard access lists at the destination router
apply extended access lists at the source router

so for your example to block access to lan B from lan A

apply a standard access list to the in port of router B
or
apply an extended access list to the out port of router A 

so to further your example,  forbid tcp access to router b from host
10.0.10.10

rd
 |
ra--rc--rb

ra = router a
rb = router b
rc = router c
rd =  router d

using a standard access list to stop 10.0.10.10 traffic on ra will cause
no access to rc or rd
using an extended access list on rb to stop tcp traffic will still allow
traffic to rc and rd




> Raees Ahmed Shaikh wrote:
> 
> Dear Buddies,
> 
> The following situation is given as an example.
> 
> Router A
> LAN
> A---E0-[X]-S0--LAN
> B--
> 
> If I need to block LAN A access to LAN B,
> 
> I can apply the access list to Router A's  Ethernet E0 as in,
> and if I apply to the E0 out the packet should come inside checked
> against the out criteria and dependently dropped.
> 
> I could apply the access list to Router A's Serial S0 as in,  assuming
> the E0 accepted the packet and is forwarding to S0, so it would be an
> incoming packet for S0, would it work.
> 
> I could apply the access list to Router A's  Serial S0 as out,
> assuming the SO accepted the packet and is applying  the list before
> forwarding to the the LAN B.
> 
> I have not included another router just to simplify the matter.
> 
> Actually I am really confused
> 
>  Some of the confused questions are as follows
> 
> How and where should the acceslist placed and applied to the in/out of
> the interfaces.
> 

see above

> Is the in/out concept  with respect to the link/and or interface.
> meaning to say if the access list is applied to an interface as in,
> the packets coming from outside will be tested. What about the packets
> coming in from the other internal interface of the router it will be
> treated as in or out,  ( Think of a two-way door, opening both sides,
> which is in and which is out in respect  to both sides)
>
any other internal interfaces on the router should be on a different
network.

if the data is destined for the network the router interface is on it's
in
if the data is destined for a network other then the one the router
interface is on it's out

> Is the access list common for all the interfaces, like, Ethernet,
> Serial, Token, ISDN, Frame-Relay.
> 
  access lists for the most part are protocol based, TCP/IP, Appletalk,
IPX
  
> Can I apply a same access list to both  in and out ports of an
> interface, What about different access list to the same interface.
> 
  some you can, some are applied to both in and out.

> Does the access list checks the criteria , on the internal interface
> of the same router, meaning if an Ethernet is passing to serial is the
> 
> I could only guess that access lists concepts in/out are w.r.t.x where
> x is the link/int or ??.
> 
> If  anybody could put more lights on this I would really be obliged,
> 
> Thanks in Advance.
> 
> Shaikh Raees Ahmed,
> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer,
> CCNA , CCDA,
> Systems & Network,
> IT Division.

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