Re: Hub-to-Switch connectivity issue

[Tony van Ree]

Probably one where the strips are painted on and therefore sits on top of the colours.

On Sunday, December 10, 2000 at 09:40:22 PM, Peter Van Oene wrote:

> ok.. i just woke up and may be groggy, but what is a layer 2 cable? 
> 
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> 
> On 12/9/2000 at 5:10 PM Gareth Hinton wrote:
> 
> >Layer 2 Cat 5 cables for sale.
> >All MAC addresses configured identical (to make addressing system easy).
> >Anyone interested?
> >
> >In defence of the people who brought DTE and DCE into the argument:
> >
> >It was an analogy, a memory aid for the old folks amongst us. Works for me
> >(and if I remember rightly, Chuck the elder), so if it confuses or annoys,
> >please forget it.
> >
> >By the way, the layer 2 cables have been withdrawn until further development
> >can be carried out. Seems to be some problem with them.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Gaz
> >
> >"John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >4179447.97621441.JavaMail.imail@puffer">news:4179447.97621441.JavaMail.imail@puffer...
> >> There is no DTE or DCE in Ethernet-world.  Those are serial communication
> >> terms that do not apply here.
> >>
> >> And hubs are definitely layer one devices, not layer two.  To be
> >considered
> >> layer two, they would have to be aware of layer two addressing schemes,
> >> which they are not.  They are, however, very aware of the physical
> >> necessities of ethernet communication on a 10 Mbps/Half duplex LAN, and
> >they
> >> do just a bang up job at it.
> >> Regardless, there's no topological difference between a 10baseT LAN
> >> connected to a single hub, and 10base5 LAN devices connected to a single,
> >> long cable.  And I hope no one will try to make the case that the cable is
> >a
> >> layer two device.
> >>
> >> In Ethernet, your transmit pair must connect to the receiver's receive
> >pair.
> >> Hub and switch ports are wired internally to be crossover ports, or MDI-X,
> >> so that any ethernet hosts connected to it will have their transmit pair
> >> connected to everyone else's receive pair.
> >>
> >> This means that if you connect a hub to a hub, a hub to a switch, or a
> >> switch to a switch using a straight cable you are connecting two ports
> >that
> >> are both crossed-over.  This will connect the transmit pair of the first
> >> device to the transmit pair of the second, and consequently the receive
> >> pairs will also be connected.  This obviously will not work!  That is why
> >if
> >> one of these devices is a hub with an MDI/MDI-X switch, you would set it
> >to
> >> MDI to undo the internal crossover.  This matches up the pairs correctly
> >and
> >> communication will proceed.
> >>
> >> If you have two switches, then you have no MDI/MDI-X button to press and a
> >> crossover cable is required to match up the transmit and receive pairs
> >> correctly.
> >>
> >> I hope that makes sense.  As usual, I need to go to bed and get some rest.
> >> I tend to ramble when I'm sleepy...
> >>
> >> Zzzz,
> >> John
> >>
> >> >  DTE to DTE uses cross-over cables.
> >> >  Is this correct?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  ""Bradley J. Wilson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >  031901c0608a$b9d87d20$ca01010a@bwilson">news:031901c0608a$b9d87d20$ca01010a@bwilson...
> >> >  > Okay...I've been digesting the responses I've received about this
> >> issue,
> >> >  and
> >> >  > what I've come up with can be reduced to two comments:
> >> >  >
> >> >  > 1) The fact that flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch didn't initially work
> >> leads
> >> >  > me to believe that I wasn't using it right.  The fact remains that
> >> >  > connecting a hub to a switch must be accomplished using a crossover
> >> cable.
> >> >  >
> >> >  > 2) Why is that?  It's true that connecting devices at different
> >layers
> >> of
> >> >  > the OSI model requires a straight-through cable, and that connecting
> >> >  devices
> >> >  > at the same layer requires a crossover cable.  So isn't it true that
> >> >  > switches are layer 2, and hubs are layer 1?  No.  Hubs are actually
> >> layer
> >> >  2
> >> >  > devices, and here's why: while a hub may not understand or care about
> >> >  source
> >> >  > and destination MAC addresses, checksums, or what's in the "type"
> >> field,
> >> >  it
> >> >  > *does* know the rules of CSMACD communication, and has to play by the
> >> same
> >> >  > rules as other layer 2 devices.  Therefore, hubs can be considered
> >> Layer 2
> >> >  > devices, and thus must be connected to switches with a crossover
> >cable.
> >> >  >
> >> >  > Anyone see anything wrong with my synopsis above?  Let me know.  Just
> >> be
> >> >  > careful with your caps lock key. ;-)
> >> >  >
> >> >  > Thanks,
> >> >  >
> >> >  > BJ
> >> >  >
> >> >  >
> >> >  >
> >> >  >
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Deeper TFTP...

[Frank Wells]

Can you copy files to a router acting as a TFTP server other than IOS image 
files?  Say, startup configs for example.  If so, please share the commands.

Also, what does the command tftp-server rom alias mean?

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Re: Hub-to-Switch connectivity issue

[Kevin Wigle]

hey Peter. how long were you asleep? 

it's just a little jibe resulting from a "simple" thread that went all over
the place!

I had intended on asking if the cables could support at least 1024 macs (to
fit with my cat1912) but then I thought some people wouldn't see the
joke

have a coffee!  :-)

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Van Oene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 10 December, 2000 21:40
Subject: Re: Hub-to-Switch connectivity issue


> ok.. i just woke up and may be groggy, but what is a layer 2 cable?
>
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
> On 12/9/2000 at 5:10 PM Gareth Hinton wrote:
>
> >Layer 2 Cat 5 cables for sale.
> >All MAC addresses configured identical (to make addressing system easy).
> >Anyone interested?
> >
> >In defence of the people who brought DTE and DCE into the argument:
> >
> >It was an analogy, a memory aid for the old folks amongst us. Works for
me
> >(and if I remember rightly, Chuck the elder), so if it confuses or
annoys,
> >please forget it.
> >
> >By the way, the layer 2 cables have been withdrawn until further
development
> >can be carried out. Seems to be some problem with them.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Gaz
> >
> >"John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >4179447.97621441.JavaMail.imail@puffer">news:4179447.97621441.JavaMail.imail@puffer...
> >> There is no DTE or DCE in Ethernet-world.  Those are serial
communication
> >> terms that do not apply here.
> >>
> >> And hubs are definitely layer one devices, not layer two.  To be
> >considered
> >> layer two, they would have to be aware of layer two addressing schemes,
> >> which they are not.  They are, however, very aware of the physical
> >> necessities of ethernet communication on a 10 Mbps/Half duplex LAN, and
> >they
> >> do just a bang up job at it.
> >> Regardless, there's no topological difference between a 10baseT LAN
> >> connected to a single hub, and 10base5 LAN devices connected to a
single,
> >> long cable.  And I hope no one will try to make the case that the cable
is
> >a
> >> layer two device.
> >>
> >> In Ethernet, your transmit pair must connect to the receiver's receive
> >pair.
> >> Hub and switch ports are wired internally to be crossover ports, or
MDI-X,
> >> so that any ethernet hosts connected to it will have their transmit
pair
> >> connected to everyone else's receive pair.
> >>
> >> This means that if you connect a hub to a hub, a hub to a switch, or a
> >> switch to a switch using a straight cable you are connecting two ports
> >that
> >> are both crossed-over.  This will connect the transmit pair of the
first
> >> device to the transmit pair of the second, and consequently the receive
> >> pairs will also be connected.  This obviously will not work!  That is
why
> >if
> >> one of these devices is a hub with an MDI/MDI-X switch, you would set
it
> >to
> >> MDI to undo the internal crossover.  This matches up the pairs
correctly
> >and
> >> communication will proceed.
> >>
> >> If you have two switches, then you have no MDI/MDI-X button to press
and a
> >> crossover cable is required to match up the transmit and receive pairs
> >> correctly.
> >>
> >> I hope that makes sense.  As usual, I need to go to bed and get some
rest.
> >> I tend to ramble when I'm sleepy...
> >>
> >> Zzzz,
> >> John
> >>
> >> >  DTE to DTE uses cross-over cables.
> >> >  Is this correct?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  ""Bradley J. Wilson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >  031901c0608a$b9d87d20$ca01010a@bwilson">news:031901c0608a$b9d87d20$ca01010a@bwilson...
> >> >  > Okay...I've been digesting the responses I've received about this
> >> issue,
> >> >  and
> >> >  > what I've come up with can be reduced to two comments:
> >> >  >
> >> >  > 1) The fact that flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch didn't initially
work
> >> leads
> >> >  > me to believe that I wasn't using it right.  The fact remains that
> >> >  > connecting a hub to a switch must be accomplished using a
crossover
> >> cable.
> >> >  >
> >> >  > 2) Why is that?  It's true that connecting devices at different
> >layers
> >> of
> >> >  > the OSI model requires a straight-through cable, and that
connecting
> >> >  devices
> >> >  > at the same layer requires a crossover cable.  So isn't it true
that
> >> >  > switches are layer 2, and hubs are layer 1?  No.  Hubs are
actually
> >> layer
> >> >  2
> >> >  > devices, and here's why: while a hub may not understand or care
about
> >> >  source
> >> >  > and destination MAC addresses, checksums, or what's in the "type"
> >> field,
> >> >  it
> >> >  > *does* know the rules of CSMACD communication, and has to play by
the
> >> same
> >> >  > rules as other layer 2 devices.  Therefore, hubs can be considered
> >> Layer 2
> >> >  > devices, and thus must be connected to switches with a crossover
> >cable.
> >> >  >
> >> >  > Anyone see anything wrong with my synopsis above?  Let me know.
Just
> >> be
> >> >  > careful 

Re: BGP Local Pref and MED/Metric - Route Maps Inbound/Outbound

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

Just wanted to commend Brian on an excellent explanation.

Whenever you start studying BGP (and advanced interior routing), and 
things start getting confused, it's a good idea always to stop and 
think:

am I dealing with TRAFFIC flow or ROUTING UPDATE flow?


>On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Jennifer Mellone wrote:
>
>>  BGP Local Pref is used to control outbound traffic.  MED/Metric is used to
>>  control inbound traffic.  Why is it that you do an inbound route map (vs
>>  outbound) when setting local pref and an outbound route map (vs. inbound)
>>  when setting MED?  It seems opposite.
>
>ok...here we go:
>
>to get OUT of a router you follow one of the routes in the routing table.
>These routes come IN to the router from say a peer or upstream.  So you
>need to modify them as they come IN so that they are changed before they
>are added to the routing/bgp table.  Inbound routes effect outbound
>traffic.
>
>for traffic to get IN to your router, its going to follow one of the
>routes that came OUT of your router.  Your router announces its routes to
>its BGP peers. On their way out you can modify these routes, such as
>setting med etc.  Outbound routes effect inbound traffic.
>
>
>For local pref:
>
>1. route comes from our peer into your router
>2. your router can set the local pref of this route coming into your
>router
>3. your router adds this route to its bgp/routing tables
>
>now your router will use this route for outbound traffic.
>
>For MED:
>
>1. a route is in your router
>2. you announce this route to a BGP peer
>3. on its way out to the peer, you can modify the metric (MED)
>4. The route is added to the peers routing/bgp tables
>5. the peer may use this route to get traffic into you
>
>Brian
>
>
>>
>>  - Jennifer Mellone
>>
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>Network Administrator
>ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881)
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Re: Support2.0 Book

[John Huston]

I passed the CIT exam with no problems, and used the Cisco Press Book and
the one by Tom Thomas from McGraw Hill.  I also purchased all of the Boson
Practice Exams.  The Boson Exams were not as helpful as I thought they would
be towards preparing for the test.




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> Hi everyone,
>
> I would like to get your opinion about Tode Lammle Support 2.0 book.
> Is it OK for the support Exam? Is the ciscopress CIT book better ?
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Hussam N. Adili
>
>
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Re: TFTP

[Kevin Wigle]

Ok, I got a 4500 and 4700 sitting here.

I gave the commands as listed and I got the same warning/error.

However, I noticed that in the running-config that the command was there.

I then tried to tftp from one to the other and it worked.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Pierre-Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andy Walden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "ItsMe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 11 December, 2000 09:39
Subject: RE: TFTP


> I have two routers. A Cisco 4000 (the TFTP server) and a Cisco2513 (the
> client) This is what I did and what I got. What went wrong?
>
>
> Cisco4000(config)#tftp-server flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
> Warning: flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin does not exist.  Command retained
>
>
> Cisco2513#copy flash tftp
>
> System flash directory:
> File  Length   Name/status
>   1   8108960  c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
> [8109024 bytes used, 279584 available, 8388608 total]
> Address or name of remote host [192.168.0.1]?
> Source file name? c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
> Destination file name [c2500-js-l_112-17.bin]?
> Verifying checksum for 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' (file # 1)...  OK
> Copy 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' from Flash to server
>   as 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin'? [yes/no]yes
> ..
> TFTP: error code 2 received - Access denied
>
> THANKS
>
> Pierre-Alex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Andy Walden
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 5:55 PM
> To: ItsMe
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: TFTP
>
>
>
> Did you bother checking before you have that answer?
>
> You can configure the network server to act as a limited Trivial File
> Transfer Protocol (TFTP) server from which other Cisco servers can boot
> their software. As a TFTP server host, the network server responds to TFTP
> read request messages by sending a copy of its ROM software to the
> requesting host. The TFTP read request message must use the file name that
> you specified in the network server configuration.
>
> To specify TFTP server operation for a communications server, use the
> tftp-server system global configuration command. The full syntax follows.
>
> tftp-server system filename list
> no tftp-server system filename list
> This command has two arguments: filename and list. The argument filename
> is the name you give the communications server ROM file, and the argument
> list is an IP access-list number.
>
> The system sends a copy of the ROM software to any host which issues a
> TFTP read request with this file name. To learn how to specify an access
> list, see the "Configuring IP Access Lists" section in the chapter
> "Routing IP."
>
> You can specify multiple file names by repeating the tftp-server system
> command. To remove a previously defined file name, use the no tftp-server
> system command and append the appropriate file name and an access-list
> number.
>
> Images that run from ROM, including IGS images, cannot be loaded over the
> network. Therefore, it does not make sense to use TFTP to offer the ROMs
> on these images.
>
> Example:
> This command causes the router to send, via TFTP, a copy of the ROM
> software when it receives a TFTP read request for the file configfile. The
> requesting host is checked against access list 22.
>
> tftp-server system configfile 22
>
>
>
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, ItsMe wrote:
>
> > Hmmm, the way I read your request  - a router as a tftp server, to my
> > knowledge you, can't.
> > You need another box for the server itself?
> >
> > ""Pierre-Alex"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > Hi Group,
> > >
> > > How do you setup a router as a TFTP server?
> > >
> > > Which routers support that feature?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Pierre-Alex
> > >
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Re: CCIE Lab Preparation - Part 2

[Doug Hammond]

I know that story. Since I've been three times, without success, my company
has decided not to pay for any more trips. Good planning on their part,
after living and breathing the CCIE for the last year, I'm not going to drop
it. I have to admit it is a highly motivating factor in wanting to pass.
Somehow, I don't think what I have in mind is what they have in mind though
  Good luck!

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> Thanks Chuck.  I'm sitting in a Days Inn in San Jose right now, waiting to
> take my lab on December 13th. Unfortunately, I've made this journey alone,
> as my company gives no support, financial or otherwise.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Cisco Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 10:51 AM
> Subject: CCIE Lab Preparation - Part 2
>
>
> > I have put together a few thoughts about motivation and preparation. I
am
> > currently using this method for my CCIE Lab preparation. I have used the
> > techniques successfully for my lower level certifications, and in
various
> > other parts of my life. I have shared this advice privately with some of
> > you. I am now making it available publicly to all who might be looking
for
> > that intangible extra that will help you achieve your goals.
> >
> > www.chuck.to/Motivation.htm
> >
> > Please do me this favor, everyone. I am offering something that is a
> > distillation of several motivational programs I have gone through. The
> > advice I offer may be something you can use. It may seem flaky, or of no
> > value. Please do not make this a topic of public conversation. It's hard
> > enough coming public with my thoughts. I am climbing Mount Everest. I
see
> > many of you on the same trail. I want us all to succeed. It will be a
LOT
> > more fun for me, there at the top, if there are a number of my respected
> > Groupstudy community there with me.
> >
> > See you there.
> >
> > Chuck
> > --
> > I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your
life
> as
> > it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you
> will
> > study US!
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Passed BSCN

[Shaheed, Manzur]

Today I passed the BSCN (Routing 2.0) exam with a score of 896. This was the
last exam for me to become a CCNP.

Lots of question about configuring OSPF and EIGRP. Not much BGP as I was
expecting.
I studied Cisco Press BSCN book by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare (ISBN
1-57870-228-3). I also studied the material @Cisco.com at the following
links (originally posted by Jim Runnels):

> BGP overview:
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/bgp.htm
> BGP case studies:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/bgp-toc.html
> Using BGP for Interdomain routing:
> http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm
> BGP technical tips:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/18.html
> 
> EIGRP intro:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/1.html
> EIGRP FAQ:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/eigrpfaq.html
> EIGRP technical tips:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/index.shtml
> EIGRP white paper:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/eigrp-toc.html
> 
> OSPF overview:
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/ospf.htm
> OSPF design guide:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/1.html
> OSPF technical tips:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/index.shtml
> 
Cheers
Manzur Shaheed
M.Sc (Computer Science), CCNP, MCSE+I 
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Re: ISDN problem with Dial-Peer

[Quncy Lau]

What's means flaps?
try to do a 'debug isdn q931'
then you will see the conversation between you 5300 and the voice switch.
You may also post the debug output here, then I can have a look.

Quncy
CCNP
Hong Kong

empire heights wrote:

> I have 1 as5300 with a voip dial-peer heading to my second as5300. on my
> second as5300 I have pri's setup and I have voice ports 0:d,1:d,2:d,3:d
> and
> dial-peer voice 1 pots
> destinatino-pattern 555
> no-digit strip
> direct-inward-dialing
> port 0:d
>
> (problem)when I make a call from #1 as5300 to #2 as5300 the call connects,
> however when I change the port to 1:d,2:d, or 3:d the call flaps and NEVER
> connects.
>
> 1) sh isdn status shows MULTI_FRAME_ESTABLISHED for 0:d,1:d,2:d,3:d
> 2) controllers are A' ok
> 3) any call on any dial-peer will NOT connect on 1:d,2:d,3:d
>
> Any ideas
> thanks
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Re: Switching Black Book by Sean Odom and Hanson Nottingham

[Doug Hammond]

I have to agree Priscilla, I personally have never met Carl Hagan, but he
was very cordial when my Switching book came out earlier this year. He liked
the way the book was written and provided some really welcome feedback for
me. One of my greatest fears when the book was written was that it was going
to lay a brick and be the object of scorn. Comments from people like Carl
really helped to drive those thoughts away.

BTW - Carl,  I was not involved as an author on this book - although I did
provide material for some sections of it.  At the risk of someone (from an
anonymous e-mail account) publicly berating me, I have looked at Sean's and
Hanson's book and it looks like a quality book with a lot of value for net
nuts like me. Maybe we could move the group's focus to the technical merits
of it.

As an aside, writing a book and working full-time is not a task for the
squeamish. I have been to the CCIE lab (close - no cigar) and I have
authored a book. I would much rather study for the lab than write another
book. Does that tell you something?




"Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I can't see any reason to apply a cynical explanation for someone's
> admiration for an author's work. The admiration and good reviews may very
> well not be based on friendship, as Stupid Idiot is assuming. They may be
> based on professional respect. Even if they are friends, maybe they are
> friends because they admire each other's intelligence and communication
> skills.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 06:39 PM 12/10/00, Andy Walden wrote:
>
> >Stupid,
> >
> >I appreciate you reply. It caused me to take a closer look into your
> >comments and I came across this from Carl Hagan in May2000.
> >
> >"Obviously,  you have never met Sean Odom or heard him speak.  He is
> >probably one of the most knowledgable Cisco consultants ever to grace our
> >presence. You know why he doesn't keep up with this group?  Because
> >everyone has comments like this.  It keeps the people who this group
could
> >use the most from keeping up with the list.  If we all paid more
attention
> >to the technical problems we have and the learning we need, we would have
> >people like Sean Odom and Todd Lammle keeping up with the group.  Who has
> >time for the Soap Opera that this group list is providing?"
> >
> >It does sound like this Carl guy has an unnatural fascination with this
> >Sean guy.
> >
> >Just fueling the fire...
> >
> >-andy
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Stupid Idiot wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Holy crap Robin, that has to be the most blatant plug,
> > > from a friend of an author, that I've ever seen!  It's
> > > morons like you that make Amazon reviews worthless.
> > >
> > > How much did the authors have to pay you for you to
> > > litter this list with your "stunning" review?
> > >
> > > >Just an FYI for the group.  I got the Switching Black
> > > >Book from Sean Odom and Doug Hammond.  I cannot
> > > >believe what it has!  I know Sean Odom is known for
> > > >putting out books that are well written and takes the
> > > >time to place more than the needed technical
> > > >information.  What I thought I was getting was a atep
> > > >by step guide on just Catalyst switches and the
> > > >configurations.  What I got?  Catalyst switches, ATM
> > > >LightStream Switches and WAN switch configurations as
> > > >well.  Holy cow Batman! Where was this book when I
> > > >needed it months ago???  This is a gold mine.  I
> > > >don't think there is any other books like it out on
> > > >the market yet.  It is a good resource to have.
> > >
> > > >Carl Hagan
> > >
>
>
> 
>
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Re: CCIE Lab Preparation - Part 2

[Craig Johnson]

Thanks Chuck.  I'm sitting in a Days Inn in San Jose right now, waiting to
take my lab on December 13th. Unfortunately, I've made this journey alone,
as my company gives no support, financial or otherwise.
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> I have put together a few thoughts about motivation and preparation. I am
> currently using this method for my CCIE Lab preparation. I have used the
> techniques successfully for my lower level certifications, and in various
> other parts of my life. I have shared this advice privately with some of
> you. I am now making it available publicly to all who might be looking for
> that intangible extra that will help you achieve your goals.
>
> www.chuck.to/Motivation.htm
>
> Please do me this favor, everyone. I am offering something that is a
> distillation of several motivational programs I have gone through. The
> advice I offer may be something you can use. It may seem flaky, or of no
> value. Please do not make this a topic of public conversation. It's hard
> enough coming public with my thoughts. I am climbing Mount Everest. I see
> many of you on the same trail. I want us all to succeed. It will be a LOT
> more fun for me, there at the top, if there are a number of my respected
> Groupstudy community there with me.
>
> See you there.
>
> Chuck
> --
> I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life
as
> it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you
will
> study US!
> ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG )
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Re: Switching Black Book by Sean Odom and Hanson Nottingham

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

I can't see any reason to apply a cynical explanation for someone's 
admiration for an author's work. The admiration and good reviews may very 
well not be based on friendship, as Stupid Idiot is assuming. They may be 
based on professional respect. Even if they are friends, maybe they are 
friends because they admire each other's intelligence and communication 
skills.

Priscilla

At 06:39 PM 12/10/00, Andy Walden wrote:

>Stupid,
>
>I appreciate you reply. It caused me to take a closer look into your
>comments and I came across this from Carl Hagan in May2000.
>
>"Obviously,  you have never met Sean Odom or heard him speak.  He is
>probably one of the most knowledgable Cisco consultants ever to grace our
>presence. You know why he doesn't keep up with this group?  Because
>everyone has comments like this.  It keeps the people who this group could
>use the most from keeping up with the list.  If we all paid more attention
>to the technical problems we have and the learning we need, we would have
>people like Sean Odom and Todd Lammle keeping up with the group.  Who has
>time for the Soap Opera that this group list is providing?"
>
>It does sound like this Carl guy has an unnatural fascination with this
>Sean guy.
>
>Just fueling the fire...
>
>-andy
>
>
>On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Stupid Idiot wrote:
>
> >
> > Holy crap Robin, that has to be the most blatant plug,
> > from a friend of an author, that I've ever seen!  It's
> > morons like you that make Amazon reviews worthless.
> >
> > How much did the authors have to pay you for you to
> > litter this list with your "stunning" review?
> >
> > >Just an FYI for the group.  I got the Switching Black
> > >Book from Sean Odom and Doug Hammond.  I cannot
> > >believe what it has!  I know Sean Odom is known for
> > >putting out books that are well written and takes the
> > >time to place more than the needed technical
> > >information.  What I thought I was getting was a atep
> > >by step guide on just Catalyst switches and the
> > >configurations.  What I got?  Catalyst switches, ATM
> > >LightStream Switches and WAN switch configurations as
> > >well.  Holy cow Batman! Where was this book when I
> > >needed it months ago???  This is a gold mine.  I
> > >don't think there is any other books like it out on
> > >the market yet.  It is a good resource to have.
> >
> > >Carl Hagan
> >




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OT: FS IOS 12 for 2500 IP only

[John Hardman]

Hi All

Sorry for the OT traffic, but I would like to get rid of a couple of extra
copies of IOS 12.0 IP only, for 2500 series routers. I know you can get them
on Ebay, but frankly the starting bids on those are higher than you can buy
it off the net for. So...

Here's the deal I have two copies, shipping is USD$3.20 for USPS priority
mail. I am asking $10 each.

TIA
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RE: TFTP

[Andy Walden]

My quick response is that the file name is incorrect somehow, but I'm not
completely sure. Try a dir command.

andy

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Pierre-Alex wrote:

> I have two routers. A Cisco 4000 (the TFTP server) and a Cisco2513 (the
> client) This is what I did and what I got. What went wrong?
> 
> 
> Cisco4000(config)#tftp-server flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
> Warning: flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin does not exist.  Command retained
> 
> 
> Cisco2513#copy flash tftp
> 
> System flash directory:
> File  Length   Name/status
>   1   8108960  c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
> [8109024 bytes used, 279584 available, 8388608 total]
> Address or name of remote host [192.168.0.1]?
> Source file name? c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
> Destination file name [c2500-js-l_112-17.bin]?
> Verifying checksum for 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' (file # 1)...  OK
> Copy 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' from Flash to server
>   as 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin'? [yes/no]yes
> ..
> TFTP: error code 2 received - Access denied
> 
> THANKS
> 
> Pierre-Alex
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Andy Walden
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 5:55 PM
> To: ItsMe
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: TFTP
> 
> 
> 
> Did you bother checking before you have that answer?
> 
> You can configure the network server to act as a limited Trivial File
> Transfer Protocol (TFTP) server from which other Cisco servers can boot
> their software. As a TFTP server host, the network server responds to TFTP
> read request messages by sending a copy of its ROM software to the
> requesting host. The TFTP read request message must use the file name that
> you specified in the network server configuration.
> 
> To specify TFTP server operation for a communications server, use the
> tftp-server system global configuration command. The full syntax follows.
> 
> tftp-server system filename list
> no tftp-server system filename list
> This command has two arguments: filename and list. The argument filename
> is the name you give the communications server ROM file, and the argument
> list is an IP access-list number.
> 
> The system sends a copy of the ROM software to any host which issues a
> TFTP read request with this file name. To learn how to specify an access
> list, see the "Configuring IP Access Lists" section in the chapter
> "Routing IP."
> 
> You can specify multiple file names by repeating the tftp-server system
> command. To remove a previously defined file name, use the no tftp-server
> system command and append the appropriate file name and an access-list
> number.
> 
> Images that run from ROM, including IGS images, cannot be loaded over the
> network. Therefore, it does not make sense to use TFTP to offer the ROMs
> on these images.
> 
> Example:
> This command causes the router to send, via TFTP, a copy of the ROM
> software when it receives a TFTP read request for the file configfile. The
> requesting host is checked against access list 22.
> 
> tftp-server system configfile 22
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, ItsMe wrote:
> 
> > Hmmm, the way I read your request  - a router as a tftp server, to my
> > knowledge you, can't.
> > You need another box for the server itself?
> >
> > ""Pierre-Alex"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > Hi Group,
> > >
> > > How do you setup a router as a TFTP server?
> > >
> > > Which routers support that feature?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Pierre-Alex
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RE: What to build?

[Brian]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Eddie Parra wrote:

> I second that.  Keep the 2621 and get some 2500's because the WIC ports for
> the 2600 + RAM upgrades for Enterprise will kill you $$$ wise.  My 2500's
> have Compaq memory in them!  The Local Director should be your Cash Cow.
> You should be able to sell that unit for a good price.

A serial WIC for a 2600/3600 is about $125 - $225 on ebay.not
really too pricy

>
> -Eddie
>
> -Original Message-
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> Frank Wells
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 4:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: What to build?
>
>
> Keep one of the 2621's and sell the rest. From the proceeds you could buy
> 5-6 2500 series routers and assemble a decent lab.
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: What to build?
> >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:11:23 EST
> >
> >The Router gods have smiled...
> >I have been given some excess equipment to start a lab with. I am presently
> >pursuing my CCNP and would like to solicit some opinions as to what would
> >be
> >the most beneficial configs for me to try and build? The Equipment:
> >
> >2 Cisco 2621 routers
> >1 Cisco 2610 router
> >1 Local Director 416
> >
> >There are no serial links on the 2600's that I am going to use, just
> >Ethernet. Can someone suggest a good place to begin? Thanks for your help.
> >
> >-Clay
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Re: Switching Black Book by Sean Odom and Hanson Nottingham

[ccnp today]

What a blatant plug. According to his book Sean was a
System Administrator. How does that qualify him as
probably one of the most knowledgable Cisco
consultants ever to grace our presence. Last time we
heard from Sean Odom he loudly defending Todd Lammle's
latest crappy book. Sean Odom turned that into a full
time instructor job with Todd. Maybe Carls going that
route too. 



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Re: ATM???

[Brian]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, yohanus wrote:

> Sorry for not specifying my questions. I would like to know how Asynchronous
> Transfer Mode works and where I can get good information on the web? I
> checked Cisco site, very detailed information (made for CCIE's...I think).
> Can anyone help me? Thanks again.

http://www.atmforum.com/

Brian


>
> PS-thanks Darren Ward for your reply.
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> the
> > net...any suggestions? Your reply is appreciated. Thank you.
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RE: TFTP

[Pierre-Alex]

I have two routers. A Cisco 4000 (the TFTP server) and a Cisco2513 (the
client) This is what I did and what I got. What went wrong?


Cisco4000(config)#tftp-server flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
Warning: flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin does not exist.  Command retained


Cisco2513#copy flash tftp

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   8108960  c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
[8109024 bytes used, 279584 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [192.168.0.1]?
Source file name? c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
Destination file name [c2500-js-l_112-17.bin]?
Verifying checksum for 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' (file # 1)...  OK
Copy 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' from Flash to server
  as 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin'? [yes/no]yes
..
TFTP: error code 2 received - Access denied

THANKS

Pierre-Alex

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Andy Walden
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 5:55 PM
To: ItsMe
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TFTP



Did you bother checking before you have that answer?

You can configure the network server to act as a limited Trivial File
Transfer Protocol (TFTP) server from which other Cisco servers can boot
their software. As a TFTP server host, the network server responds to TFTP
read request messages by sending a copy of its ROM software to the
requesting host. The TFTP read request message must use the file name that
you specified in the network server configuration.

To specify TFTP server operation for a communications server, use the
tftp-server system global configuration command. The full syntax follows.

tftp-server system filename list
no tftp-server system filename list
This command has two arguments: filename and list. The argument filename
is the name you give the communications server ROM file, and the argument
list is an IP access-list number.

The system sends a copy of the ROM software to any host which issues a
TFTP read request with this file name. To learn how to specify an access
list, see the "Configuring IP Access Lists" section in the chapter
"Routing IP."

You can specify multiple file names by repeating the tftp-server system
command. To remove a previously defined file name, use the no tftp-server
system command and append the appropriate file name and an access-list
number.

Images that run from ROM, including IGS images, cannot be loaded over the
network. Therefore, it does not make sense to use TFTP to offer the ROMs
on these images.

Example:
This command causes the router to send, via TFTP, a copy of the ROM
software when it receives a TFTP read request for the file configfile. The
requesting host is checked against access list 22.

tftp-server system configfile 22



On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, ItsMe wrote:

> Hmmm, the way I read your request  - a router as a tftp server, to my
> knowledge you, can't.
> You need another box for the server itself?
>
> ""Pierre-Alex"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > How do you setup a router as a TFTP server?
> >
> > Which routers support that feature?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Pierre-Alex
> >
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Re: Hub-to-Switch connectivity issue

[Peter Van Oene]

ok.. i just woke up and may be groggy, but what is a layer 2 cable? 

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 12/9/2000 at 5:10 PM Gareth Hinton wrote:

>Layer 2 Cat 5 cables for sale.
>All MAC addresses configured identical (to make addressing system easy).
>Anyone interested?
>
>In defence of the people who brought DTE and DCE into the argument:
>
>It was an analogy, a memory aid for the old folks amongst us. Works for me
>(and if I remember rightly, Chuck the elder), so if it confuses or annoys,
>please forget it.
>
>By the way, the layer 2 cables have been withdrawn until further development
>can be carried out. Seems to be some problem with them.
>
>Regards,
>
>Gaz
>
>"John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>4179447.97621441.JavaMail.imail@puffer">news:4179447.97621441.JavaMail.imail@puffer...
>> There is no DTE or DCE in Ethernet-world.  Those are serial communication
>> terms that do not apply here.
>>
>> And hubs are definitely layer one devices, not layer two.  To be
>considered
>> layer two, they would have to be aware of layer two addressing schemes,
>> which they are not.  They are, however, very aware of the physical
>> necessities of ethernet communication on a 10 Mbps/Half duplex LAN, and
>they
>> do just a bang up job at it.
>> Regardless, there's no topological difference between a 10baseT LAN
>> connected to a single hub, and 10base5 LAN devices connected to a single,
>> long cable.  And I hope no one will try to make the case that the cable is
>a
>> layer two device.
>>
>> In Ethernet, your transmit pair must connect to the receiver's receive
>pair.
>> Hub and switch ports are wired internally to be crossover ports, or MDI-X,
>> so that any ethernet hosts connected to it will have their transmit pair
>> connected to everyone else's receive pair.
>>
>> This means that if you connect a hub to a hub, a hub to a switch, or a
>> switch to a switch using a straight cable you are connecting two ports
>that
>> are both crossed-over.  This will connect the transmit pair of the first
>> device to the transmit pair of the second, and consequently the receive
>> pairs will also be connected.  This obviously will not work!  That is why
>if
>> one of these devices is a hub with an MDI/MDI-X switch, you would set it
>to
>> MDI to undo the internal crossover.  This matches up the pairs correctly
>and
>> communication will proceed.
>>
>> If you have two switches, then you have no MDI/MDI-X button to press and a
>> crossover cable is required to match up the transmit and receive pairs
>> correctly.
>>
>> I hope that makes sense.  As usual, I need to go to bed and get some rest.
>> I tend to ramble when I'm sleepy...
>>
>> Zzzz,
>> John
>>
>> >  DTE to DTE uses cross-over cables.
>> >  Is this correct?
>> >
>> >
>> >  ""Bradley J. Wilson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >  031901c0608a$b9d87d20$ca01010a@bwilson">news:031901c0608a$b9d87d20$ca01010a@bwilson...
>> >  > Okay...I've been digesting the responses I've received about this
>> issue,
>> >  and
>> >  > what I've come up with can be reduced to two comments:
>> >  >
>> >  > 1) The fact that flipping the MDI/MDI-X switch didn't initially work
>> leads
>> >  > me to believe that I wasn't using it right.  The fact remains that
>> >  > connecting a hub to a switch must be accomplished using a crossover
>> cable.
>> >  >
>> >  > 2) Why is that?  It's true that connecting devices at different
>layers
>> of
>> >  > the OSI model requires a straight-through cable, and that connecting
>> >  devices
>> >  > at the same layer requires a crossover cable.  So isn't it true that
>> >  > switches are layer 2, and hubs are layer 1?  No.  Hubs are actually
>> layer
>> >  2
>> >  > devices, and here's why: while a hub may not understand or care about
>> >  source
>> >  > and destination MAC addresses, checksums, or what's in the "type"
>> field,
>> >  it
>> >  > *does* know the rules of CSMACD communication, and has to play by the
>> same
>> >  > rules as other layer 2 devices.  Therefore, hubs can be considered
>> Layer 2
>> >  > devices, and thus must be connected to switches with a crossover
>cable.
>> >  >
>> >  > Anyone see anything wrong with my synopsis above?  Let me know.  Just
>> be
>> >  > careful with your caps lock key. ;-)
>> >  >
>> >  > Thanks,
>> >  >
>> >  > BJ
>> >  >
>> >  >
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Switching Black Book by Sean Odom and Hanson Nottingham

[Stupid Idiot]

Holy crap Robin, that has to be the most blatant plug,
from a friend of an author, that I've ever seen!  It's
morons like you that make Amazon reviews worthless.

How much did the authors have to pay you for you to
litter this list with your "stunning" review?

>Just an FYI for the group.  I got the Switching Black
>Book from Sean Odom and Doug Hammond.  I cannot
>believe what it has!  I know Sean Odom is known for
>putting out books that are well written and takes the
>time to place more than the needed technical
>information.  What I thought I was getting was a atep
>by step guide on just Catalyst switches and the
>configurations.  What I got?  Catalyst switches, ATM
>LightStream Switches and WAN switch configurations as
>well.  Holy cow Batman! Where was this book when I
>needed it months ago???  This is a gold mine.  I
>don't think there is any other books like it out on
>the market yet.  It is a good resource to have.  

>Carl Hagan


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New CCNP!!!!!

[Randy Carlson]

It was ugly (got 751 pass 706) but I just passed the Remote Access
(BCRAN) test and am now a CCNP!!!  Next step CCDP(one test)/MCSE 2000
(pretty easy) then the CCIE drill (labs, labs, labs) (pretty hard)!!

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RE: New CCNP!!!!!

[Pierre-Alex]

Beware of the MCSE 2000 Design Exams. They will demand the best of you.

Regards,

Pierre-Alex

MCSE,MCT,CCNA

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It was ugly (got 751 pass 706) but I just passed the Remote Access
(BCRAN) test and am now a CCNP!!!  Next step CCDP(one test)/MCSE 2000
(pretty easy) then the CCIE drill (labs, labs, labs) (pretty hard)!!

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CCNP

[leonz]

After taken four exams in one month time, I've got my CCNP today.
personally I don't find it too hard at all. Intense, but not hard.
For all the four exams, I got 890-900, which is kinda ok considering I
was rocketing through these exams in one month :)

I'll start doing CCNP security next, hopefully I'll pass it before the Xmas.
And then, if I'm lucky, I can get my CCDP in year 2000..:P

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Re: What to build?

[Frank Wells]

Keep one of the 2621's and sell the rest. From the proceeds you could buy 
5-6 2500 series routers and assemble a decent lab.

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: What to build?
>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:11:23 EST
>
>The Router gods have smiled...
>I have been given some excess equipment to start a lab with. I am presently
>pursuing my CCNP and would like to solicit some opinions as to what would 
>be
>the most beneficial configs for me to try and build? The Equipment:
>
>2 Cisco 2621 routers
>1 Cisco 2610 router
>1 Local Director 416
>
>There are no serial links on the 2600's that I am going to use, just
>Ethernet. Can someone suggest a good place to begin? Thanks for your help.
>
>-Clay
>
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Re: Switching Black Book by Sean Odom and Hanson Nottingham

[Andy Walden]

Stupid,

I appreciate you reply. It caused me to take a closer look into your
comments and I came across this from Carl Hagan in May2000.

"Obviously,  you have never met Sean Odom or heard him speak.  He is
probably one of the most knowledgable Cisco consultants ever to grace our
presence. You know why he doesn't keep up with this group?  Because
everyone has comments like this.  It keeps the people who this group could
use the most from keeping up with the list.  If we all paid more attention
to the technical problems we have and the learning we need, we would have
people like Sean Odom and Todd Lammle keeping up with the group.  Who has
time for the Soap Opera that this group list is providing?"

It does sound like this Carl guy has an unnatural fascination with this
Sean guy. 

Just fueling the fire...

-andy


On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Stupid Idiot wrote:

> 
> Holy crap Robin, that has to be the most blatant plug,
> from a friend of an author, that I've ever seen!  It's
> morons like you that make Amazon reviews worthless.
> 
> How much did the authors have to pay you for you to
> litter this list with your "stunning" review?
> 
> >Just an FYI for the group.  I got the Switching Black
> >Book from Sean Odom and Doug Hammond.  I cannot
> >believe what it has!  I know Sean Odom is known for
> >putting out books that are well written and takes the
> >time to place more than the needed technical
> >information.  What I thought I was getting was a atep
> >by step guide on just Catalyst switches and the
> >configurations.  What I got?  Catalyst switches, ATM
> >LightStream Switches and WAN switch configurations as
> >well.  Holy cow Batman! Where was this book when I
> >needed it months ago???  This is a gold mine.  I
> >don't think there is any other books like it out on
> >the market yet.  It is a good resource to have.  
> 
> >Carl Hagan
> 
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Re: ATM???

[Deepak Sharma]

http://www.atmforum.com/

hth
Deepak

yohanus wrote:

> Sorry for not specifying my questions. I would like to know how Asynchronous
> Transfer Mode works and where I can get good information on the web? I
> checked Cisco site, very detailed information (made for CCIE's...I think).
> Can anyone help me? Thanks again.
>
> PS-thanks Darren Ward for your reply.
>
> ""yohanus"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Does anyone know how ATM's work and where I can get good information on
> the
> > net...any suggestions? Your reply is appreciated. Thank you.
> >
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Re: MZMaker utility (other way around though)

[Chris McCoy]

  Does anyone know if it's possible to decompress an
mz IOS image?  How is it accomplished?  IIRC, it's
GNUzipped with an executable tag at the lead in of the
file.

Thanks for the help,
Chris M.

--- Paul Lalonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Sam,
> 
> Images for the 800, 1000, 1600, 2600, 3600 ... are
> already compressed to run
> from DRAM. You can't use the MZMAKER utility on
> these images.
> 
> MZMAKER was written specifically for the many 3000-
> and 2500-series systems
> in use by our groupstudy peers. The 3000- and
> 2500-series routers don't have
> "compressed from the factory" images like these
> newer routers do.
> 
> Regards,
> Paul
> [PCL]
> 
> 
> 
> "Sam" wrote in message ...
> >Hello friends
> >Could anyone who has used the MZMaker utility to
> compress IOS images =
> >tell me if I can use it to compress images for a
> 1600 router.
> >I have done it on a 2500 and it works great.
> >My 1600 has 4MB Ram and 6MB Flash and am not able
> to load large images. =
> >This is for a home lab so I am not too concerned
> about slow booting or =
> >response.
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Sam
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Re: CCIE R/S Pass Mark

[Brian]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Ben Darji wrote:

>
> Can anybody give me an accurate account of the pass mark required for the
> CCIE Routing and Switching multiple choice exam?

Their is no set pass mark anymore.  When you begin your test, a pass mark
is downloaded based on the pass marks of the previous 3 or 4 months.  Sort
of like a "curve" if you will.  Its "generally" around 70-75% however.

Brian


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Re: What to build?

[Brian]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Frank Wells wrote:

> Keep one of the 2621's and sell the rest. From the proceeds you could buy
> 5-6 2500 series routers and assemble a decent lab.

2610's aren't worth that much.  I would keep it and use it for the other
half of "voice", if you are interested in that.  A 2610 bare would get
about $700.with some interfaces you could get up as high as $1200.

a LD416 $1500-$2000

>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: What to build?
> >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:11:23 EST
> >
> >The Router gods have smiled...
> >I have been given some excess equipment to start a lab with. I am presently
> >pursuing my CCNP and would like to solicit some opinions as to what would
> >be
> >the most beneficial configs for me to try and build? The Equipment:
> >
> >2 Cisco 2621 routers
> >1 Cisco 2610 router
> >1 Local Director 416
> >
> >There are no serial links on the 2600's that I am going to use, just
> >Ethernet. Can someone suggest a good place to begin? Thanks for your help.
> >
> >-Clay
> >
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Re: CID EXAM ALIVE AND WELL!!

[Andre' Paree-Huff]

Too many people already on the list for the Beta and I needed it to work on
a book I am doing.


André Paree-Huff
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- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: CID EXAM ALIVE AND WELL!!


> How come don't want to take the Beta exam instead?
>
>
> "Andre' Paree-Huff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 016001c0614a$751c3170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:016001c0614a$751c3170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'll tell you on Tuesday after I return if I get to take it.  I just
> called
> > again and they said it was available. I'm calling 1.800.204.3926 and
> taking
> > exam 640-025.  It's still listed as a live test on Cisco's web page
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/exam_list.ht
> > m .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > André Paree-Huff
> > A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
> > MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Christopher J. Dosch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Andre' Paree-Huff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 5:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: CID EXAM ALIVE AND WELL!!
> >
> >
> > > WOW, that's strange!  I live in NO VA and I called yesterday, first
> > > Prometric and then Cisco, both representatives said no go on both the
> beta
> > > and the 3.0!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Andre' Paree-Huff
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:00 AM
> > > To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> > > Subject: CID EXAM ALIVE AND WELL!!
> > >
> > >
> > > I just called Prometric and scheduled my CID 640-025 exam for next =
> > > Tuesday morning.  It is alive and well.  The lady I spoke to said she
=
> > > has been scheduling at least a couple people for this exam every day.
I
> =
> > > stated that I heard it was pulled and she said they have gotten no
word
> =
> > > on it.  So as of now I am schedule to sit the CID exam next week...
> > >
> > >
> > > Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
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Re: CID Beta

[Andre' Paree-Huff]

Prometric should never have scheduled you out past 07-DEC-00, I would call
them to confirm but in the past the closing date is the last date you can
sit the exam.


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Subject: CID Beta


> I just checked the Cisco Beta Exam area and it states that the beta is
> closed as of 7 December.Does this mean the anyone who has booked for after
> that day cannot write ?
>
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Re: Passed BCSN - need opinion on BCRAN book

[Tony van Ree]

Hi,

I have a copy of the Catherine Paquet book beside me.  We here work in the field of 
customer access and this book is used daily in real life situations.  I presents a 
bundle of useful info  for details one forgets.  I have found it the most excellent 
book of all the books I have studied.  It covers heaps, is well written, easy to read 
and presents real stuff.

Teunis,
Hobart. Tasmania
Australia

On Friday, December 08, 2000 at 02:02:35 PM, Barronton. Ken wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Passed BCSN this morning with an 804. Not great, but not as hard as I
> anticipated. Some questions very vague!
> 
> Just as others have said, the objectives from Cisco is what you need to know
> well, especially OSPF and BGP!
> 
> Sources used:
> TCP\IP Routing - Jeff Doyle
> Boson test 1
> Various links provided by the good people on this list including a lot of
> Cisco links
> 
> On to BCRAN and to open another debate...
> 
> Building Cisco Remote Access Networks by Catherine Paquet   ISBN 1578700914 
> or
> Building Cisco Remote Access Networks by Thomas M. Thomas IIISBN
> 0072124806 
> Both get high praises, which is better???
> 
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Re: MZMaker utility

[Paul Lalonde]

Hi Sam,

Images for the 800, 1000, 1600, 2600, 3600 ... are already compressed to run
from DRAM. You can't use the MZMAKER utility on these images.

MZMAKER was written specifically for the many 3000- and 2500-series systems
in use by our groupstudy peers. The 3000- and 2500-series routers don't have
"compressed from the factory" images like these newer routers do.

Regards,
Paul
[PCL]



"Sam" wrote in message ...
>Hello friends
>Could anyone who has used the MZMaker utility to compress IOS images =
>tell me if I can use it to compress images for a 1600 router.
>I have done it on a 2500 and it works great.
>My 1600 has 4MB Ram and 6MB Flash and am not able to load large images. =
>This is for a home lab so I am not too concerned about slow booting or =
>response.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Sam
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RE: last try: tough VPN question

[Scott Morris]

An interesting idea here...  And bear in mind I haven't tried using my PIX
as a DHCP server yet...

BUT  You only have a maximum of 10 IPs you can use for a DHCP pool.  You
are assigning them to the same netmask as your inside interface (I assume
this, the docs don't say anything one way or the other, just stating the IPs
must be in the "same subnet" as the inside interface)...

So:

#1, check the ipconfig of your workstations, make sure the netmask is /24 as
your inside interface...

#2, you are offering specific translation for 10.1.1.255, which is where the
Windows stations are going to attempt to do local broadcast stuff to.
Therefore, those packets will never leave your network.

On a router (like the 3620) you can do an ip helper address.  I would be
interested in what your 3620 config looks like.  I don't believe that PAT
translating the broadcasts is supported (though I could be wrong on that).

Have you tried the LMHOSTS approach?

Scott

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 6:18 PM
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Subject: last try: tough VPN question


Hello,

Let me re-describe the situation:

Central office 7100 router, site office PIX (NAT
overload 1 public ip address), IPSec tunnel is
establised, clients at site office can't logon NT
domain but can do everthing else.

Today, I replaced the PIX with a 3620 router (same
IPSec setup), everything works fine. Clients can logon
NT domain.

I think that proves 1)I don't have naming issue 2) PAT
works with IPSec. I don't understand why PIX wouldn't
work. Please see my PIX config.

Thanks in advance.


Jim

PIX Version 5.2(3)
access-list 100 permit ip host 24.176.210.204
167.191.0.0 255.255.0.0
ip address outside 24.176.210.204 255.255.255.0
ip address inside 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
global (outside) 1 interface
nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 24.176.210.1 1
sysopt connection permit-ipsec
crypto ipsec transform-set IPSEC esp-des esp-md5-hmac
crypto map newmap 10 ipsec-isakmp
crypto map newmap 10 match address 100
crypto map newmap 10 set peer 169.193.13.2
crypto map newmap 10 set transform-set IPSEC
crypto map newmap interface outside
isakmp enable outside
isakmp key  address 169.193.13.2 netmask
255.255.255.255
isakmp identity hostname
isakmp policy 10 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 10 encryption des
isakmp policy 10 hash md5
isakmp policy 10 group 1
isakmp policy 10 lifetime 86400
dhcpd address 10.1.1.101-10.1.1.110 inside
dhcpd dns 24.1.64.33 24.1.64.34
dhcpd wins 169.193.28.60 169.193.148.25
dhcpd lease 3600
dhcpd domain dhcp.lamrc.com
dhcpd enable inside




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Re: TFTP

[Andy Walden]

Did you bother checking before you have that answer?

You can configure the network server to act as a limited Trivial File
Transfer Protocol (TFTP) server from which other Cisco servers can boot
their software. As a TFTP server host, the network server responds to TFTP
read request messages by sending a copy of its ROM software to the
requesting host. The TFTP read request message must use the file name that
you specified in the network server configuration.

To specify TFTP server operation for a communications server, use the
tftp-server system global configuration command. The full syntax follows.

tftp-server system filename list
no tftp-server system filename list 
This command has two arguments: filename and list. The argument filename
is the name you give the communications server ROM file, and the argument
list is an IP access-list number. 

The system sends a copy of the ROM software to any host which issues a
TFTP read request with this file name. To learn how to specify an access
list, see the "Configuring IP Access Lists" section in the chapter
"Routing IP."

You can specify multiple file names by repeating the tftp-server system
command. To remove a previously defined file name, use the no tftp-server
system command and append the appropriate file name and an access-list
number.

Images that run from ROM, including IGS images, cannot be loaded over the
network. Therefore, it does not make sense to use TFTP to offer the ROMs
on these images.

Example:
This command causes the router to send, via TFTP, a copy of the ROM
software when it receives a TFTP read request for the file configfile. The
requesting host is checked against access list 22.

tftp-server system configfile 22



On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, ItsMe wrote:

> Hmmm, the way I read your request  - a router as a tftp server, to my
> knowledge you, can't.
> You need another box for the server itself?
> 
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> > Which routers support that feature?
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last try: tough VPN question

[Jim Bond]

Hello,

Let me re-describe the situation:

Central office 7100 router, site office PIX (NAT
overload 1 public ip address), IPSec tunnel is
establised, clients at site office can't logon NT
domain but can do everthing else.

Today, I replaced the PIX with a 3620 router (same
IPSec setup), everything works fine. Clients can logon
NT domain.

I think that proves 1)I don't have naming issue 2) PAT
works with IPSec. I don't understand why PIX wouldn't
work. Please see my PIX config.

Thanks in advance.


Jim

PIX Version 5.2(3)
access-list 100 permit ip host 24.176.210.204
167.191.0.0 255.255.0.0
ip address outside 24.176.210.204 255.255.255.0
ip address inside 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
global (outside) 1 interface
nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 24.176.210.1 1
sysopt connection permit-ipsec
crypto ipsec transform-set IPSEC esp-des esp-md5-hmac
crypto map newmap 10 ipsec-isakmp
crypto map newmap 10 match address 100
crypto map newmap 10 set peer 169.193.13.2
crypto map newmap 10 set transform-set IPSEC
crypto map newmap interface outside
isakmp enable outside
isakmp key  address 169.193.13.2 netmask
255.255.255.255
isakmp identity hostname
isakmp policy 10 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 10 encryption des
isakmp policy 10 hash md5
isakmp policy 10 group 1
isakmp policy 10 lifetime 86400
dhcpd address 10.1.1.101-10.1.1.110 inside
dhcpd dns 24.1.64.33 24.1.64.34
dhcpd wins 169.193.28.60 169.193.148.25
dhcpd lease 3600
dhcpd domain dhcp.lamrc.com
dhcpd enable inside




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Re: ATM???

[yohanus]

Sorry for not specifying my questions. I would like to know how Asynchronous
Transfer Mode works and where I can get good information on the web? I
checked Cisco site, very detailed information (made for CCIE's...I think).
Can anyone help me? Thanks again.

PS-thanks Darren Ward for your reply.

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Re: TFTP

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Hmmm, the way I read your request  - a router as a tftp server, to my
knowledge you, can't.
You need another box for the server itself?

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> How do you setup a router as a TFTP server?
>
> Which routers support that feature?
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> Thanks
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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

[jenny . mcleod]

Interesting.
When I set up a router using basic-net3, a colleague warned me that it
would not show active until a call was placed - he didn't know why but that
was what he had experienced.  When I set up the router, though, the
physical layer DID show active without a call.
If the behaviour depends on the exact switch used in the exchange, that
would explain why it differs sometimes.

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 11/12/2000
09:40 am ---


"David Wolsefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 09/12/2000 04:46:57
am

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To:   "JULIO CESAR GARCIA ALCANTAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject:  RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
  any input?


The routers in question were 7206s located in Paris. I saw more of this
exact behavior on some other routers in Europe, but can't remember which
ones. Here is the relevant portion of the config for the router in
question.
I don't have a good explanation for this behavior, but when I asked, I was
told that it occurred because they were not using a true basic-net3 switch,
they were using some sort of emulation instead.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
username SYDNEY password 7 0 
username STOCKHOLM password 7 1 
!
interface BRI3/6
 ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
 ip accounting output-packets
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 600
 dialer enable-timeout 10
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 90
 dialer map ip Y.Y.Y.Y name STOCKHOLM 001234567890
 dialer-group 2
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname foo
 hold-queue 75 in
!
dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit

-Original Message-
From: JULIO CESAR GARCIA ALCANTAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:43 PM
To: David Wolsefer
Cc: Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
any input?


Can you send us configuration example, what model of cisco router are you
using
thanks
Julio Garcia

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, David Wolsefer wrote:

> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Raul F. Fernandez
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
> input?
>
>
> Dear folks,
>
> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
> type basic-net3.
>
> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
> correctly configured
>
> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
> commands are in use.
>
> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
> the physical
>
> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
> behavior of showing the=20
>
> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
> This causes some
>
> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further
=
> but seems like the CCO
>
> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
> configuration and other sources which
>
> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites.
=
> Any information
>
> would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Raul
>
>
>
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Re: Sat CID Beta Wrong paper???

[jenny . mcleod]

I had the same thing - wrong heading and a stack of security questions
(shame about that since security is not my strong point :-).  I assume it
was the correct exam though - there were also a stack of questions that I
wouldn't expect to see on a security exam...
JMcL





peter whittle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on
09/12/2000 10:24:25 pm

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Subject:  Sat CID Beta Wrong paper???


I sat the CID Beta yesterday, or rather that is what I booked for, that
is what it said at the end
but the heading throughout the paper itself was 'Cisco Secure VPN' and
the questions were
certainly more akin to VPN security than Design.

Has anyone else had a similar experience / problem?

Peter


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RE: What to build?

[Eddie Parra]

I second that.  Keep the 2621 and get some 2500's because the WIC ports for
the 2600 + RAM upgrades for Enterprise will kill you $$$ wise.  My 2500's
have Compaq memory in them!  The Local Director should be your Cash Cow.
You should be able to sell that unit for a good price.

-Eddie

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Subject: Re: What to build?


Keep one of the 2621's and sell the rest. From the proceeds you could buy
5-6 2500 series routers and assemble a decent lab.

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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: What to build?
>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:11:23 EST
>
>The Router gods have smiled...
>I have been given some excess equipment to start a lab with. I am presently
>pursuing my CCNP and would like to solicit some opinions as to what would
>be
>the most beneficial configs for me to try and build? The Equipment:
>
>2 Cisco 2621 routers
>1 Cisco 2610 router
>1 Local Director 416
>
>There are no serial links on the 2600's that I am going to use, just
>Ethernet. Can someone suggest a good place to begin? Thanks for your help.
>
>-Clay
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Re:CCNP-Big day for me-passed BCMSN

[Waqar M]

Dear All,
Thanks for your appreciation, i really need it. Well, i used Cisco Press 
BCMSN course book, Boson test#1 which i think more than enough for the exam. 
Moreover i used Cisco Online exams which really test your concepts. This was 
all which i used. I had hands on experience with me which really helped me 
out there in exam as i had worked on Catalyst 5000, Catalyst 6000. The 
passing score is 699.

I cant tell the exact questions as it would be against the NDS rules and 
regulations. I hope we all should understand this.

Regards,
Waqar M.S
Network Engineer
B.E.CS,MCSE,CIPT,CCNA,CCNP


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>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: FW: CCNP-Big day for me-passed BCMSN
>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:59:27 -0800
>
>Dear Waqar,
>
>Congratulations on your passing Switching 2.0 (BCMSN)!  I shall be taking
>the exam few days from now. Could you please furnish me with details of the
>exam, passing score etc. I shall appreciate if you can send me any online
>materials that you used.
>
>Thank you.
>
>'Sola
>
>
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>
>Sent:  Saturday, December 09, 2000 2:00 PM
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>Well Done!
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>Behalf Of
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>Subject:   CCNP-Big day for me-passed BCMSN
>
>
>Dear Fellows,
>
>I am pleased to inform all my mailing list friends that on Friday 8th of
>December, i completed my CCNP track by successfully passing Switching 2.0
>with 912 marks. Thanks to all members of this list who helped me regarding
>my enquiries for the exam. Now will be preparing for CCIE soon after taking
>some rest.
>Regards,
>Waqar M.S
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RE: CCIE R/S Pass Mark

[Louie Belt]

70

Louie

When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; If
I am right, he will learn, If I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but
both of us will profit.

- John Galt


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Can anybody give me an accurate account of the pass mark required for the
CCIE Routing and Switching multiple choice exam?

Thanks, Ben

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CCIE R/S Pass Mark

[Ben Darji]

Can anybody give me an accurate account of the pass mark required for the
CCIE Routing and Switching multiple choice exam?

Thanks, Ben

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RE: ccna test 507

[Leigh Anne Chisholm]

Sybex has a "CCNA Virtual Test Center" due out in January that has a fairly
in-depth section of questions that cover frame-relay and switching.  All
questions are based on fundamental knowledge required to pass the CCNA.  The
benefit though of these questions is in the explanations that have been
designed (in most instances) to help fill in the gaps of knowledge left out
of the Cisco official curriculum materials (ICND and Cisco Academy).

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Subject: Re: ccna test 507


Jennifer

The Cisco Academy curriculum stays true to the certification, but you are
right about needing more information. Switching and Frame Relay are
weaknesses in the curriculum. Diagnostics of STP and setting up a router as
a TFTP server are two that come to mind. You should have TCP/IP and
subnetting down solid as well as Novell and IPX.  I also had a couple of
questions on PPP.

Good Luck on Monday

Jeff


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> Hello
>
> This may seem ridiculous to alot of you, but I am forging ahead with my
> question and I sure hope someone can offer me advice or help:
>
> I am finishing up in the cisco academy in mid-month and naturally, we use
> cisco press materials.  I have been taking these classes for 4 semesters.
I
> am taking the CCNA next Monday morning.  I feel prepared or so I thought
until
> I looked at a Sybex book for ccna today.
>
> It has so much more material in it and is so much more thorough, that I am
> wondering what the heck I am doing taking this test Monday morning.
It
> has stuff I have never heard of, or considered.  I am scared to death.
>
> I have the transcender software and take all the on-line stuff I can get
my
> hands on, and I study constantly with the material that I have, but this
sybex
> book has thown me for a loop.  The stuff I have, I know well, but that's
all I
> know.  I have never even heard of a 1900 switch until today.  In school,
> switches are switches.  No specifics.
>
> My question:  Is cisco press and transcender enough if you know THAT stuff
> really really well???  (I can tell I definately want sybex material for
> ccnp..)
>
> Is sybex just so much better than cisco press that it gives more info than
you
> need for future preparations in testing?
>
> Opinions, advice, critisms...nothing rejected...
>
> Thanks,
> Jennifer Cribbs
>
> 
> Have a Good Day!!
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RE: TFTP

[Pierre-Alex]

Thanks Phil!

Pierre

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 5:10 AM
To: pierre; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TFTP


First you must have enough FLASH memory to host multiple IOS images, or
you'll only be able to serve the image you are running on that particular
router.

#conf t
TFTP-Server FLASH 

There is some goof with partitions & VIP's (depending on the router), but
this is the core command...

Good Luck !!!
Phil

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Subject: TFTP


>
> Dear Group,
>
> How do you setup a router as a TFTP Server?
>
> What type of router provides this functionnality?
>
> THANKS
>
> Pierre-Alex
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What to build?

[Scotsman6]

The Router gods have smiled...
I have been given some excess equipment to start a lab with. I am presently
pursuing my CCNP and would like to solicit some opinions as to what would be
the most beneficial configs for me to try and build? The Equipment:

2 Cisco 2621 routers
1 Cisco 2610 router
1 Local Director 416

There are no serial links on the 2600's that I am going to use, just
Ethernet. Can someone suggest a good place to begin? Thanks for your help.

-Clay


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MZMaker utility

[Sam]

Hello friends
Could anyone who has used the MZMaker utility to compress IOS images =
tell me if I can use it to compress images for a 1600 router.
I have done it on a 2500 and it works great.
My 1600 has 4MB Ram and 6MB Flash and am not able to load large images. =
This is for a home lab so I am not too concerned about slow booting or =
response.


Thanks

Sam

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Re: CCIE Design Written

[Bruce Williams]

I would have thought after reading the books that you mentioned that you
would have studied.  They were not helpful?

Bruce


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> Well, well, well.
>
> With no studying for this exam the outcome was inevitable.  I am not to
> bothered as Wednesdays pass eludes all.
> Anyway for those people looking to sit this written exam here is the break
> down.
>
> Passing Score 60% --- sounds easy doesn't it!
>
> Access Technologies
> Access protocols, Features, and Architecture
> Distribution Layer Technologies
> Distribution Protocols
> Core Technologies
> Core Protocols
> Core Applications
> Campus Design Issues
> WAN Design Issues
> SNA/IP Migration
> Multiservice Design
> Network Management.
>
> There are no type ins.  I have read Advanced Ip Network Design, Jeff
Doyles
> Bible, Network Design Case Studies CCIE press.  I honestly don't believe
> that half of these questions were in these books.  Although with no study
I
> could easily be proved wrong here.  Anyway again this is a fair but tough
> test.  There is no hint at how many answers are correct.
>
> Enjoy your weekend, I certainly will.
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Re: TFTP

[Frank Wells]

Go to privilidged exec (router#) and type tftp-server /filename (need the 
slash). The filename is the exact name of the IOS image you want to copy or 
the alias name you gave it.  Then you just tftp from the receiving box like 
you always do.


>From: "Pierre-Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Pierre-Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: TFTP
>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:54:41 -0600
>
>Hi Group,
>
>How do you setup a router as a TFTP server?
>
>Which routers support that feature?
>
>Thanks
>
>Pierre-Alex
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Re: TFTP

[Erick B.]

tftp-server flash:filename

This will make the file's available to be TFTP'd off
this Cisco router from another device. IOS doesn't
allow a way to just TFTP any file to the flash from
remote that I know of. You need to use the copy tftp
command from the CLI to put files on the flash. This
is for security reasons - so someone can't just TFTP
files to your flash and fill it up. 

As far as I know, this is supported on a majority of
the routers and all current models. 

--- Pierre-Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Group,
> 
> How do you setup a router as a TFTP server?
> 
> Which routers support that feature?


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Re: CID Beta

[Patrick Murphy]

It could mean that they were not taking anymore canidates after this date.
This seems to be what happened with the other betas.

Patrick
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Subject: CID Beta


> I just checked the Cisco Beta Exam area and it states that the beta is
> closed as of 7 December.Does this mean the anyone who has booked for after
> that day cannot write ?
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Cisco Secure IDS

[Gils]

Hi all,

   I am going to install a Cisco IDS system, the director that I am going to
use is the build in CSPM 2.2 one.
Does any body have any experience with that system that can share is
knowledge with me and give me some pointers.
I have installed the CSPM and got it to talk with the sensor but I am still
working on how exactly the policy should be configured with the CSPM.

  Any help will be appriciated.

   Thank you in advance

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RE: CCNA - Fears and Realities

[Jennifer Cribbs]

I believe my feelings of incompeteness or fear or nervousness stem from the 
fact that I am a housewife and have absolutely NO experience in the tech 
world.  My past jobs were just general working jobs that required no 
education. I don't work at this time.  I study and go to school and my husband 
takes care of me.  And it is awsome to be able to understand some of these 
things.  I have no idea where this will go for me. At the time when this 
started, I was going to go back to school and take a few classes with my 
husband for "growth purposes" and the school I was attending got the okay to 
start cisco classes.  I had no computer experience. I had never touched one 
except to maybe play a video game at an arcade...  I had never heard of cisco 
and I went to a seminar which was held to explain the courses and what they 
would consist of.  I didn't really understand what I was getting into, but I 
signed on because it sounded interesting...and then, I was hooked.  I took 98, 
nt and a hardware class plus the first semester of cisco, which spurred me on 
to go buy a bunch of parts last year as an experiment and build the first 
computer that my husband and I have ever owned and actually am typing this on. 
It took me 2 days to build.  It shocked me at how easy it was and that it 
actually worked! My husband eventually dropped the classes, but I was hooked 
so to speak.  I am buying the sybex ccnp books and can't wait to try things in 
the real world.  Passing this test is a goal of mine.

You guys might be used to this stuff and so are maybe indifferent to what you 
actually know and understand.  This is thrilling stuff to me.  And it nearly 
makes me feel priviledged to be able to learn.  So many people cannot...

I thank you for the helpful msgs, but now I must study for tomorrow.  And 
after checking, I was wrong on my averages.  sem1 90, sem2 91, sem 3 95, and 
sem 4 92, but not quite finished with that one yet.  Final to go on Tuesday.

Sincerely,
Jennifer Cribbs


>= Original Message From "Darby Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>The Realities are Transcender and Cisco Press.
>
>I used neither - 892 I believe.
>
>The Reality is using ExamGear, Boson, and Troytech.
>
>If you haven't heard of these, then maybe you should look into them.
>
>I took two weeks of studying only those and passed the 407 exam.  I know you 
think 507 is different and harder?
>
>I signed up for the Cisco Academy and have completed 1 Semester so far and 
feel it to be lacking.
>
>I think it will look good on a resume and hopefully count as experience.
>
>Do a search for Hambo + cracks and you will find a gateway to a new world.
>
>Good luck - Remember ExamGear (New Riders), boson.com and troytech.com.
>
>Darby Weaver
>MCSE+I, MCSE, MCP+I, MCP
>A+, Network+, I-Net+, Server+
>Certified Internet Security Specialist
>Certified TCP/IP Administrator
>CCNA
>
>P.S.: Don't let the alphabet fool ya :)
>Take one test at a time.  Eventually it helps build a formidable resume.


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Off Topic: Ryan says Merry Xmas

[Phil Barker]

Merry Christmas Everybody.

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MLS and VLAN success!

[Ben Hockenhull]

Hi all,

I finally managed to conquer MLS and VLANs, and I wanted to thank everyone
for their help.

I ended up completely nuking the config on the Cat and started over. 
The new config worked from the very beginning.  I suppose that there was
something lurking in the old config on the Cat that was screwing things
up. 

Turns out that MLS is dead easy to configure when things work as
documented.  Imagine.

Thanks again!

Ben

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Re: CID 3.0 is gone??

[GNOME]

Sorry for my ignorant...i can't believe Robert Padjen is in this list too!
I am now studying his book to prepare for my CID Beta Exam :)



Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I spoke with Sylvan and they report that the exam is
> officially inactive, however, the Cisco Web site still
> reports that 640-025 is the correct one. In addition,
> as others have noted, the -015 exam is available. I
> have left a VM for Cisco training to try and resolve
> for the group and will let everyone know. My guess is
> that someone goofed when the CID beta was closed and
> they inactivated the mainline exam. This happened on
> the CCNA beta a few months ago if you'll recall, and
> was fixed in a day or so. As a number of us have
> noted, the beta is usually not brought into the
> mainline for at least three months, and the beta
> doesn't end for another week plus.
>
> Hope that helps for now.
>
>
> --- Alfred Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I check the Sylvan Prometric website
> > (www.2test.com), can't find any 640-025
> > (CID 3.0).  But I found 640-015 (CID 3.0
> > Instructor).  Same?  but harder
> > (Higher passing score).
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > GNOME
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 9:51 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CID 3.0 is gone??
> >
> >
> > is that true??
> > i am sceduling CID Exam soon!!!
> >
> >
> > "Gordon Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have a friend that tried to schedule the CID
> > Beta and it was full so he
> > > tried to schedulae the CID 3.0 exam and Sylvan
> > said it was no longer
> > > available. Can anyone verify this?
> > >
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Tough Test - CSE

[Perry Lucas]

My company is preparing to become a Cisco Premier Partner and one of the
requirements is to have people with the Cisco Sales Esstentials (CSE)
certification.  The test is taken online via the Certification.net's site,
and is 50 questions & multiple choice with a passing score of 76%.  It
sounds and looks extremely easy, but it is probably one of the toughest
cisco tests I have taken.  The first time I took it I got a 58% and just
last night took it again to achieve a 78%.

Here's a quick breakdown of some topics
-IBM
-Multiservice
-Switching (Token Ring & Ethernet)
-Differences between similar products
-Acronyms - Lots of Acronyms

I'm going back to the easier CCNx & CCDx tests now...

Perry

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Re: Book reviews

[Art Day]

Try www.fatbrain.com .  This used to be The Computer Literacy Bookstore.


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> Can anyone provide a site other than amazon that provides reviews on
books?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Shawn
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CID Beta

[Shane Stockman]

I just checked the Cisco Beta Exam area and it states that the beta is 
closed as of 7 December.Does this mean the anyone who has booked for after 
that day cannot write ?

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Router Lab For Sale

[Circusnuts]

Last Call...

AGS+ (6 Serial/ 6 Ethernet/ CSC/4 with 11.0(22) EPROM's)
3102 (1 Serial/ 1 Ethernet/ 12.0(8) Enterprise IOS)
3102 (1 Serial/ 1 Ethernet/ 12.0(8) Enterprise IOS)
1 Cat5 Crossover Cable
1 Cisco Console Cable Kit
2 Ethernet Transceivers
3 Power Cords
2 Serial Cables (DTE to DCE, with DCE on the AGS side for the Telco =
Cloud)

Plug & Play

$1,275 + shipping

Thanks Guys !!!
Phil

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Re: CID EXAM ALIVE AND WELL!!

[GNOME]

How come don't want to take the Beta exam instead?


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> I'll tell you on Tuesday after I return if I get to take it.  I just
called
> again and they said it was available. I'm calling 1.800.204.3926 and
taking
> exam 640-025.  It's still listed as a live test on Cisco's web page
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/exam_list.ht
> m .
>
>
>
>
> André Paree-Huff
> A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
> MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: "Andre' Paree-Huff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com"
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> Subject: RE: CID EXAM ALIVE AND WELL!!
>
>
> > WOW, that's strange!  I live in NO VA and I called yesterday, first
> > Prometric and then Cisco, both representatives said no go on both the
beta
> > and the 3.0!!
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Andre' Paree-Huff
> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:00 AM
> > To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
> > Subject: CID EXAM ALIVE AND WELL!!
> >
> >
> > I just called Prometric and scheduled my CID 640-025 exam for next =
> > Tuesday morning.  It is alive and well.  The lady I spoke to said she =
> > has been scheduling at least a couple people for this exam every day.  I
=
> > stated that I heard it was pulled and she said they have gotten no word
=
> > on it.  So as of now I am schedule to sit the CID exam next week...
> >
> >
> > Andr=E9 Paree-Huff
> > A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP
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Re: TFTP

[Circusnuts]

First you must have enough FLASH memory to host multiple IOS images, or
you'll only be able to serve the image you are running on that particular
router.

#conf t
TFTP-Server FLASH 

There is some goof with partitions & VIP's (depending on the router), but
this is the core command...

Good Luck !!!
Phil

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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 11:12 AM
Subject: TFTP


>
> Dear Group,
>
> How do you setup a router as a TFTP Server?
>
> What type of router provides this functionnality?
>
> THANKS
>
> Pierre-Alex
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TFTP

[Pierre-Alex]

Hi Group,

How do you setup a router as a TFTP server?

Which routers support that feature?

Thanks

Pierre-Alex

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TFTP

[pierre]

Dear Group,

How do you setup a router as a TFTP Server?

What type of router provides this functionnality?

THANKS

Pierre-Alex

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RE: CCNP-Big day for me-passed BCMSN

[pierre]

Well Done!

-Original Message-
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Waqar M
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 4:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCNP-Big day for me-passed BCMSN


Dear Fellows,

I am pleased to inform all my mailing list friends that on friday 8th of
December, i completed my CCNP track by successfully passing Switching 2.0
with 912 marks. Thanks to all members of this list who helped me regarding
my enquiries for the exam. Now will be preparing for CCIE soon after taking
some rest.

Regards,

Waqar M.S
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RE: Still doesn't work: tough VPN question

[Justin Menga]

Hi,

Are you using NAT anywhere in the setup - NAT breaks some NetBIOS stuff,
particularly domain logons and NT trusts.

NAT meaning are you referencing the DC by a false IP address, or by it's
valid address.

If you are not using NAT, then forget about the IPSec, just think of it as a
router to router link.  You will be attempting to talk to the DC using
internal addressing, so really all that is required on the remote end is
that the WINS server entries are configured correctly OR a manual LMHOSTS
entry.



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Subject: Still doesn't work: tough VPN question


Hello,

Thank you guys for the help. Unfortunately, I tried to
put LMHOST file, still doesn't work. We use WINS and I
can ping domain controller using name so I don't think
it's naming issue.

I used a sniffer captured some data, client is sending
logon request to domain controller but didn't get any
response. Looks like PIX blocks it. How do I open
it(port 137, 138, 139)?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

--- Scott Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your problem is likely the propgation of
> broadcasts...  Or lack thereof.
> One thing you can do (I'm assuming you have a router
> before (LAN-side) the
> PIX) is set up an ip-helper address to forward
> UDP-level broadcasts (like
> 138/139 Netbios) to the NT server.
> 
> The other thing you can do is bypass that broadcast
> thought process by using
> LMHosts files on the workstations at the branch
> office.  That will pre-load
> (if you use the #PRE designation) the NetBIOS cache
> and give you IP
> addresses to go to.  So if you have IP reachability,
> things will work just
> fine then.
> 
> In LMHOSTS. :
> 
> (ip address) (Netbios name) #PRE #DOM:(domain name
> if domain controller)
> 
> Also, to refresh without rebooting the PCs, "nbtstat
> -R"
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Jim Bond
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: tough VPN question
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to set up a IPSec between a PIX (branch
> office) and router (central office). All PCs at
> branch
> office share 1 ip address. IPSec seems to be working
> fine because clients can ping/telnet/email/map
> drives
> from/to central office. The problem is they can't
> logon NT domain. They can ping domain controller
> though.
> 
> Any idea why they can't log on NT domain? (The
> machines were already added to domain)
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Jim
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Study Resources

[Redspan Solutions Ltd]

Hello there :-)

There have been some interesting new updates to www.bensbookmarks.com
today:

New Links - (LINK CISCO) some handy new sites have been added under the
Accreditation Specific Section

New Books - (READ CISCO) new study guides have been published under.  They
are at the top of the lists under the CCIE, CCNP/DP and CCNA/DA sections.

New Forum - the TALK CISCO section has been upgraded and now contains our
own dedicated discussion forum.  There is now much more fucntionality to
the forum so please drop in soon and join in the discussions.

Merry Christmas

Ben Lovegrove, CCNP (+ Security)
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CCNP-Big day for me-passed BCMSN

[Waqar M]

Dear Fellows,

I am pleased to inform all my mailing list friends that on friday 8th of 
December, i completed my CCNP track by successfully passing Switching 2.0 
with 912 marks. Thanks to all members of this list who helped me regarding 
my enquiries for the exam. Now will be preparing for CCIE soon after taking 
some rest.

Regards,

Waqar M.S
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Re:

[Frank Wells]

Think of it as a hundred bucks, nothing else.  Are you 'scared to death' of 
losing $100.00?...probably not.  :-)


>From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 19:37:22 -0500
>
>Hello Priscilla and everyone,
>
>Thanks for the encouragement!! I have relaxed now. At this point, I really
>think I will pass. I am over my initial fear and shock over the sybex book. 
>I
>am back to just being concerned with getting over 90%, which was my 
>original
>concern before sybex. My school average is around 97%, BUT, I know this 
>test
>is different. At least it feels different. I just went a little nuts there 
>for
>a bit. Most of my studying has been on my own, even through I was enrolled 
>in
>an academy in a classroom situation. I am trying to look at this as 'just
>another step'Soon I will have CCNP questions for you guys..
>
>I also have a very good friend who took this test today and passed and did
>very well. He and I have worked and studied in close proximity for 4 months
>now, and he says I will be surprised at how simple and easy the test is 
>going
>to be. He told me we over-studied big time so I am holding on to that and
>reading my books and going through study guides and ignoring my family 
>until I
>discover that fact for myself.
>
>Thank you everyone for the support. Monday is T-day and I will post my test
>grade, rain, shine, or maybe even snow (snowed last week here). Have a
>wonderful evening everyone!!
>
>Sincerely,
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >= Original Message From Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>=
> >Larry, I don't think you're right about CCNA being an adaptive test? A
> >number of us asked Cisco a couple months ago if they use adaptive testing
> >and they said no. I doubt they have changed that.
> >
> >My advice to Jennifer: Don't second guess yourself. I bet you know the
> >material. One of my students just passed with a score of 950. He was 
>scared
> >to death too, but he didn't need to be.
> >
> >Good luck. Let us know how you do!
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >At 08:41 AM 12/9/00, Puckett, Larry (TIFPC) wrote:
> >>Jennifer, I just took the 507 test and can address some of your 
>concerns.
> >>--- scared to death is a little too far. You should be nervous because 
>this
> >>is not a test intended to be easy. It is an adaptive test that will 
>focus on
> >>your weak spots. I believe that although that is hard to swallow if you
> >>don't pass, that it is still 'right' considering the intent of the
> >>certification. Cisco obviously wants CCNAs to not have any weak spots. 
>This
> >>keeps the value of the certification high.
> >> I obviously just experienced not passing. It exposed that I need to
> >>increase my depth of knowledge in access lists. I will now retake the 
>test
> >>soon and if I have another weak spot, I'm sure the test will show it to 
>me
> >>as well. This is all good, although a little humiliating.
> >>
> >>With 4 semesters and the level of confidence that you are showing, I 
>suggest
> >>you have no fear. Go take the test, and pass it!!! If it turns out that 
>you
> >>are weak in an area, it will tell you where. This can relieve some of 
>the
> >>awesome size of the task and let you focus on specific areas, knowing 
>that
> >>you are strong enough in others.
> >>
> >>Go with high confidence and good luck...
> >>
> >>Larry Puckette - LANCP
> >>Temple-Inland
> >>Network Analyst
> >>ph -512/434-1838
> >>fax-512/434-1861
> >>cell-512/751-8315
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >>From: Jennifer Cribbs [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 11:22 PM
> >>To: associate; cisco
> >>Subject: ccna test 507
> >>
> >>Hello
> >>
> >>This may seem ridiculous to alot of you, but I am forging ahead with my
> >>question and I sure hope someone can offer me advice or help:
> >>
> >>I am finishing up in the cisco academy in mid-month and naturally, we 
>use
> >>cisco press materials. I have been taking these classes for 4 semesters. 
>I
> >>am taking the CCNA next Monday morning. I feel prepared or so I thought
> >>until
> >>I looked at a Sybex book for ccna today.
> >>
> >>It has so much more material in it and is so much more thorough, that I 
>am
> >>wondering what the heck I am doing taking this test Monday morning. 
>It
> >>has stuff I have never heard of, or considered. I am scared to death.
> >>
> >>I have the transcender software and take all the on-line stuff I can get 
>my
> >>hands on, and I study constantly with the material that I have, but this
> >>sybex
> >>book has thown me for a loop. The stuff I have, I know well, but that's 
>all
> >>I
> >>know. I have never even heard of a 1900 switch until today. In school,
> >>switches are switches. No specifics.
> >>
> >>My question: Is cisco press and transcender enough if you know THAT 
>stuff
> >>really really well??? (I can tell I definately want sybex

RE: rip over e0

[Chuck Larrieu]

Yes it can. Assuming appropriate crossover cable and addressing of the link.

Idle curiosity. Recognizing that RIP updates will be sent out any interface
whose address has been entered into the RIP networking process, what would
lead you to believe it would not work as expected?

Experiment - set it up this way. Do a debug ip rip events, and watch the fun

Chuck



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Sent:   Saturday, December 09, 2000 7:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:rip over e0

Does anyone know if rip can be run between two 2500 ethernet connections?

Shawn

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Re: rip over e0

[John Neiberger]

Yes it can.  Was there something that made you think it could not?  As far
as I know, if the interface can run IP, it can run RIP.

>  Does anyone know if rip can be run between two 2500 ethernet connections?

>  
>  Shawn
>  
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FDDI NIF

[Darren Ward]

Hi All,

A question on FDDI Neighborhood Information Frame that are used for discovering 
Upstream
and Downstream Neighbors.

Does the station transmit this on both the Primary and Standby Rings so it goes in each
directions as I think or does it require interaction from receiving NSA's and some 
kinda
magic happens on large rings?

Darren

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