RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]

2001-07-12 Thread Elmer Deloso

Priscilla,
As usual you have such eloquent ways in explaining concepts. But as you
mentioned earlier that the IPX net addresses are manually configured
(preferred method?), you're implying that i can change these different
addresses to be the same IPX network address but with different
encapsulations, corrext? I think i'll put this to the test as soon as i have
time to get Sniffer running again.
Thanks for your insight.
Elmer

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Yes, each frame type is associated with a different network number. They 
are not different representations of the same network number. They are 
different networks.

Broadcast domains have nothing to do with it. If all devices in these four 
networks are connected via hubs or switches, they see each other's 
broadcasts. They process the broadcasts at the data-link-layer and only 
process them further if they are running the same Ethernet frame type.

If these are really internal network numbers, then the question is moot. 
Internal network numbers don't need a frame type!?

Priscilla

At 10:46 AM 7/12/01, Hire, Ejay wrote:
Each different frame type acts as a separate broadcast domain, thus they
have different network numbers.

-Original Message-
From: Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Thanks for all the responses. This is the only IPX speaking box on the wire
and the first NW5.1 server to be brought up. I understand that it supports
and automatically loads all IPX frame types by default if IPX is chosen
along with the default and preferred IP protocol. From the replies it seems
that each frame type would belong to a DIFFERENT IPX network? Or is it just
DIFFERENT WAYS of writing out IPX network addresses depending on the frame
type used?
Again, thanks for the enlightenment.

Elmer

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Interesting. Why would it generate network numbers, though? Shouldn't
network numbers be manually configured?

Priscilla

At 04:11 PM 7/11/01, Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote:
 I finally feel qualified to comment on a question on this list (having
 worked with NetWare for the past 6 years)
 
 The addresses you're seeing are generated automatically.  What's
happening
 here is that the new server has every single Ethernet frame type loaded,
and
 as a result is using different IPX network number for every frame type.
New
 3.x and 4.x servers will do this if you perform an install using all the
 defaults.  You need to run INSTALL (or NWCONFIG if 5.x), edit the
 AUTOEXEC.NCF and remove all BIND statements referencing frame types you
 don't want to use.  Ethernet_II is preferred.
 
 NetWare 5.x is more restrained and tries to use IP only.
 
   Ayers, Michael  07/11/01 12:12PM 
 Those were either auto generated, or picked up from reading frames on the
 wire.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From:   Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
 
 hi, group.
 I just noticed that after installing NetWare server, it gave me this info
 regarding types of IPX frames:
 Frame type  Network address
 Ethernet_802.2  3D410DCD
 Ethernet_802.3  1E0F4F9E
 Ethernet_SNAP   FF994BB0
 Ethernet_II D393B805
 
 For the IPX gurus in the group, can someone tell me if there is some type
of
 logic as to how the network address is translated from the type of frame
 used?
 Just to answer my curiosity.
 Thank you.


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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RE: 2 routers, 1 async line [7:12178]

2001-07-12 Thread Hire, Ejay

Assuming you mean a POTS line, you can use a couple of external 56k modems.
I've got it working on a couple of 2501's through the aux port.  E-mail if
you need help with the configs.

-Ejay

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Subject: 2 routers, 1 async line [7:12178]


What is the simplest way to connect two routers over
an asnyc line for a permanent connection?  I have a
1720 with a serial interface and a 3640 with a
wic-2a/s.

Ben

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RE: 3660 router-----Finished [7:12135]

2001-07-12 Thread Daniel Cotts

Some years ago a Main Distribution Frame burned in a NY Telephone Central
Office in Manhattan, NY. It was located on 3rd Ave. All the trunking that
went up the East side crossed this point. It was a major disaster that took
months to repair.

 -Original Message-
 From: Harrison, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135]
 
 
 Not enough Watts to let the magic smoke out of the cables.  
 The hard gear
 is MUCH more likely to catch fire from a short.  The most 
 likely scenarios
 where the wire will ignite is an external source like arson, 
 outside fire or
 burning equipment.  If fire gets to the wires and the fire suppression
 systems have not done their job I hope you have geographic 
 redundancy
 built into your systems. :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mears, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135]
 
 
 that is! that's the one. Damn Telco stuff. You know it was 
 said if they were
 to burn (Telco Routers), it would not put off toxic fumes (no 
 plastic an
 telco requirment) . I looked around the CO and wondered about 
 the billions
 little blue and white analog wires we have form ceiling to floor and
 wondered what's the point. Smoke from the router won't kill 
 me, but the
 plastic from the wires will.  Man
 
 
 rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:26 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135]
 
 
 Uhh, they do!
 c3660-telcoent-mz.121-5.T9.bin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135]
 
 
 Telco requirements are quite strict
 There are Bellcore standards that are used at all central offices.
 It has nothing to do with the goverment but will Bell 
 ensurring that any
 third party equipment will:
 1) Fit in telco racks
 2) No physically interfer with other equipment in telco racks
 3) Not add to the fire load
 4) Not cause any undue electrical problems (NEBS grounding, etc)
 
 It's all really for infrastructure protection
 Too bad they didn't have a Telco version of the IOS.
 
 Bob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135]
 
 
 This brings up a point:  why is there a telco version in the first
 place?  What are these telco requirements and why are they 
 there?  I've
 been hearing little snippets about this but I don't know the details. 
 From what I've read so far, it sounds like some government agency had
 too much time on its hands and felt like being even more 
 intrusive than
 usual.  
 
 Who cares if there is a plastic cover or not?  Who cares if 
 the rack is
 19 or 24 wide?  Who cares if the equipment is more than 12 deep?  
 
 Someone please explain this to me, and please tell me there are good
 reasons for these requirements.  Otherwise, it will just annoy me and
 ruin my day.  ;-)  Besides, I have a feeling I'll be running into
 situations where equipment that I provision has to meet these
 requirements so I might as well know what they are, right?
 
 Thanks,
 John (who is just starting his 2nd cup of coffee...be gentle.)
 
  Mears, Rob  7/12/01 8:55:12 AM 
 Greeting to all,
 
 This problem proved to be a real bitch, and I thank you for all the
 advice. 
 
 Here is the fix, and I am almost ashamed to say, but I want to pass
 this on
 so none of you all fall into the same trap as I did.
 
 As I said, in one post before, I kept getting the same error messages
 even
 after TAC sent me new memory and a new router. The 3rd TAC 
 engineer was
 the
 charm, because he asked me if this was a TELCO version of the 3660.
 That was
 a real good question cuss I had no idea, as I have never worked on
 one.
 Well, that was the problem, it takes a TELCO FEATURE SET IOS. One
 telltail
 clue is that their is not a plastic front on the Telco version.
 I saw this right off the bat, but thought Cisco had just 
 redesigned it.
  Man
 what a day. The other way to see if the router is an 
 Enterprise version
 or
 Telco is to run the SN numbers. I can think off all the times i do
 this
 before I install an IOS. Maybe i should.
 
 Good news is I got it fixed and got a new Router out of the deal
 (thanks you
 TAC). And as TAC goes, they have pulled my Butt out of the sling more
 then
 once, so I have nothing but good to say for them. Yes I have gotten
 some
 DORKS before, but I have the option to tell them to get lost and give
 me a
 new Engineer. We pay a lot for this service.
 
 Hope this has been as educational for you all as it has been for me.
 
 Look below at link for the difference in the 

FW: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]

2001-07-12 Thread FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT)

Paul...I have NO lab equipment at my disposal.  I'm currently
a CCDP preparing for the CCIE written.

Tom Fleming.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Cantagi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:20 PM
To: FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT); Michael L. Williams
Subject: Re: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]


Also, what kind of lab equipment do you have at your disposal?
- Original Message -
From: FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT) 
To: Michael L. Williams ; 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]


 I'm Still working on the written... I'd certainly be willing
 to get together and talk about the material...

 I work downtown and live in So. County.

 Thanks,
 Tom Fleming

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:58 PM
 To: FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]


 Kewl.. my e-mail is now correct in my posts ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) so
 feel free to e-mail me   I'm wanting to finish the CID exam (to finish
 CCDP), but then I wanna tear into Caslow, Doyle, etc and get on with the
 written. Are you two past the written into the lab studies or still
 working on the written?  Lemme know.

 I wouldn't mind coordinating some kind of weekly get together somewhere
 here in town once a week or so to talk about this stuff  I think
working
 on lab scenarios together (buying some rack time and working through
 scenarios together) could really help...

 Mike W.

 FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT)  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Another St. Louis person working on CCIE.
 
  Tom Fleming
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:34 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]
 
 
  Just wondering. I feel left out seeing all of the posts for study
  partners in every other part of the US.
 
  Heh.
 
  Mike W.




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routers for sale...2501 and 2502 [7:12187]

2001-07-12 Thread Cisco KIdd78

I'm selling two routers for $1000 and the buyer pays shipping...

2501 16/8 IOS 12.1
2502 8/8 IOS 10.2

I will throw in a console cable kit and 2500 guide that comes with the 
router.  Email me if you are interested.  I will also sell you my AGS+ if 
you are interested.  Thanks
_
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FW: what are some of the best materials to prep for the CCIE [7:12188]

2001-07-12 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I think when I bought them they were $650. Here's a link to the page...

http://www.ccbootcamp.com/lab_description.htm


--- Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Jaspreet Bhatia
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 7/12/2001 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: what are some of the best materials  to prep for the CCIE
[7:12182]

Dennis,
   How much did the labs cost ?

Jaspreet

Dennis Laganiere wrote:

 I don't think you should skip buying the 19 labs from ccbootcamp.
 Everything I've heard is that they're the most intense of the
available
 materials.  I know the ones I've done so far are very challenging...

 --- Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Jaspreet Bhatia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what are some of the best materials to prep for the CCIE
 [7:12173]

 Hello Wei,
I would say that you should have the
following
 books and
 reference material with you fo rthe lab exam :

 1) Caslow
 2) Doyle
 3) Halabi
 4) OSPF Design Guide from CCO
 5) DLSW+ Design Guide from CCO
 6) Token Ring Paper from  ccprep.com
 7) All in one CCIE lab study guide from Mcgrawhill
 8) Try to do the  Virtual Lab on mentorlabs .They are really good
 9) Last but not the least sign up for Caslow's ECP 1 course two months
 before the lab

 That is what I am using . Thanks

 Jaspreet Bhatia

 Richard Chang wrote:

  You would need the Caslow book as well. Search over the archive and
you'll
  see what other people are using.
 
  Also, make sure you check out the archive for the CCIE lab mailing
list.
I
  found it very inspiring.
 
  Richard
 
  Wei Wu  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I just passed my RS written exam,  I want to know what study
materials
  are
   best for prepping for the lab.  I currently have Routing tcp/ip
from
 Doyle
   and Halabi's BGP book.  I am looking for a CCIE lab book and/or
CDs.
 Any
   input appreciated.




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LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries?? [7:12189]

2001-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi all,

have a problem that has been nagging at me for a good long time now...

say you have a pair of ABRs sitting at an OSPF area boundary, and an ASBR is
originating Type-5 LSAs from inside the non-backbone area.  Is there an easy
way to suppress the propagation of the type-5s outside the area?  I would
have a range statement on the ABRs to advertise the area aggregate, I just
want to suppress the more specifics.

I have tried using 'distribute-list out ' which would do it for
me, but for some reason IOS won't allow this with OSPF:

router(config)#router os 1
router(config-router)#distribute-list 1 out FastEthernet 0/0
% Interface not allowed with OUT for OSPF
router(config-router)#

I suppose that allowing this could potentially screw up routing if done
without some care, but JunOS lets you do exactly this sort of thing - you
can produce some wacky policies, but at least you have the option ;-)

btw - I know I could prolly do this with multiple OSPF instances and
redistribute between them, but I *really* don't want to get into this level
of complexity.

thanks in advance - this one has been driving me mad

Andy




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RE: PIX/w/WIN2k VPN3000 client problem [7:12181]

2001-07-12 Thread Peter Slow

get a reboot approved.


-Original Message-
From: Ayers, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PIX/w/WIN2k VPN3000 client problem [7:12181]


I'm having a problem. I'm running a PIX520 (5.3) with multiple VPNGROUPs.  I
have a client installed on a WIN2k machine.  The machine was using a group
that didn't split tunnel.  I changed the group to a group that does, and now
I get a failed to negotiate error AFTER THE LOGON and the Your link is now
secure error.  I have cleared IPSEC SA and ISAKMP SA.  I even went as far
as deleting the MAPS.  The Client has been removed and re-installed.  I'm
thinking the problem is either something embedded somewhere in the WIN2k, or
an association to the peer IP in the PIX, but I have successfully changed
the group on other win 9x machines without a problem after the SA timed out,
and the Dynamic Maps cleared.  This is a production PIX, but do I get a
reboot approved to try to clear old info out of memory, or do I go after the
client and see if the problem lies there?

Any input appreciated.


Thank you,

Michael 

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Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread JHIGGINS

When I trace from a cisco router to another Cisco router I get a timeout
failure every other probe on the last hop  It fails on every type of
cisco router I have tried, 7513,25xx abd 36xx.  I think that it must be
normal but I cannot find anything in the archives here or at the Cisco
site that says it is normal? See following where I do a trace between
two routers on connected interfaces.

 *  4 msec *  4 msec *  8 msec *  8 msec
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.1
% Invalid source address
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.2
Numeric display [n]:
Timeout in seconds [3]:
Probe count [3]: 15
Minimum Time to Live [1]:
Maximum Time to Live [30]:
Port Number [33434]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.10.1

  1 192.168.10.1 4 msec 4 msec *  8 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec
*  8 msec
 *  4 msec *
r1#




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Re: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Have you checked duplex?  Sometimes speed and duplex settings have a similar
effect.  Things seem to work properly, but you are dropping packets which
slows the application down.  Obviously if you have one end at 10 and the
other is at 100, you will run into major issues, but sometimes
autonegotiation is flakey.  If you are using auto on both devices, check the
interface for speed and duplex it auto'd to.

If this is across a serial link, what is the bandwidth?

Also, is this a core router that stays fairly busy?  what is it's
utilization?  Sometimes routers will drop pings if they are busy.

-Patrick

 JHIGGINS  07/12/01 04:01PM 
When I trace from a cisco router to another Cisco router I get a timeout
failure every other probe on the last hop  It fails on every type of
cisco router I have tried, 7513,25xx abd 36xx.  I think that it must be
normal but I cannot find anything in the archives here or at the Cisco
site that says it is normal? See following where I do a trace between
two routers on connected interfaces.

 *  4 msec *  4 msec *  8 msec *  8 msec
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.1
% Invalid source address
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.2
Numeric display [n]:
Timeout in seconds [3]:
Probe count [3]: 15
Minimum Time to Live [1]:
Maximum Time to Live [30]:
Port Number [33434]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.10.1

  1 192.168.10.1 4 msec 4 msec *  8 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec
*  8 msec
 *  4 msec *
r1#




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Books for sale!!! (Cisco Press, Microsoft Press, Linux) [7:12193]

2001-07-12 Thread JC

Hello,

I have the following books for sale should anyone want to buy them:

1) Designing Wide area networks.  (This book is absolutely awesome, I've
read it continuously at my job, if you have a say in the design of networks
or are just getting started with networking, this is the book to have.  It
jumbles to together all the facts of building a reliable network from
servers, to firewalls, to routers, to switches, to telco lines, to the
competitive nature of lecs, clecs, and ilecs, etcc...  Excellent way to
learn how all networks, including the internet tie together and how they
have come to be and the details of each.

I'm selling it for $50.00

2) Telecommunications Factbook (Explains every Telco abbreviation in detail,
excellent reference book).

I'm selling it for $20.00

3) Linux Certification Box Set (Incudes up-to-date coverage of all Linux
certifications, this study set was created by Wave Technologies and includes
all versions of the Linux OS.  Excellent for those needing to learn Unix.

It goes for major dollars on the Wave Technologies site, I'm selling it for
$100.00

4) Windows 2000 Skills update (This box set includes all the books you will
need to prepare for the accelerated upgrade MCSE exam.  This box set was put
out by Wave Technologies)

I'm selling it for $100.00

5) Internetworking Technologies Handbook (2nd Edition) by Cisco Press.  If
you need a book which describes all Cisco Networking topics in detail this
is the reference to have.

I'm selling it for $30.00

6)Windows 2000 Server Study Guide by Sybex.

I'm selling it for $30.00

If you are interested in any of these books please send me an e-mail with
which book you would like and I can ship that out to you.  I accept payment
via Paypal, so all you need is a credit card and the deal is done.  You
might wonder why I'm selling all of these books, well its because I'm
thinking about a career change.  I've sold off a portion of the rest of my
books, so now is your chance to get some great books at very low prices,
shop and compare if you find it lower I'll mark mine down.


Thanks to all at this group study, it is an awesome place to be.

Sincerely,

JC




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CCNP/CCIE Lab Equipment (cont.) [7:12194]

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Clark

(2) 2501$1200.00
(1) 2502$400.00
(1) 2503$600.00
(1) 2521$750.00
(2) 1912EN switch   $800.00

and what model should I use to offer reverse telnet. Also I am not sure If I
need to/have the funds to purchase all this at once. To start off with, what
would make a Great CCNP lab. Then once I have passed the CCNP I will add the
items I need to study for CCIE. So basically what I am asking is what items
do I need to have a fully functional and great lab for CCNP



Thanks,

Brian Clark - A+, Network+, CCA, MCP 2000, CCNA
Network Specialist
Valley Services, Inc.




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Security Advisory [7:12195]

2001-07-12 Thread Gareth Hinton

Here's an interesting one. Haven't read all of todays posts so apologies if
this is a repeat.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/IOS-httplevel-pub.html


Luckily it only affects all devices running Cisco IOS? That seems to be
put over as a plus point.

Unfortunately, the sorrect method of exploiting the vulnerability is detaled
within. Seems a bit silly, but I suppose forearmed is forewarned.

Should keep us busy with calls tomorrow.

Gaz




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RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]

2001-07-12 Thread Hire, Ejay

Perhaps I was unclear by my meaning.
A station running Ethernet II that receives a ethernet_Snap frame discards
it.  It is unintelligible.  

This is was what I meant by being in separate broadcast domains.  A router
or server advertising services to more than one frame type has to generate a
separate advertisement broadcast for every frame type, thusly It is
reasonable to say that each frame type creates a separate broadcast domain.
(Same wire, separate domains.)

The question is rather blurry though.  If it truly is a separate broadcast
domains, then the NIC should discard the frame without generating an
interrupt.  If it passes it to the o/s to discard, then I'm not sure what it
is?!

IMHO, fwiw
-Ejay

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Yes, each frame type is associated with a different network number. They 
are not different representations of the same network number. They are 
different networks.

Broadcast domains have nothing to do with it. If all devices in these four 
networks are connected via hubs or switches, they see each other's 
broadcasts. They process the broadcasts at the data-link-layer and only 
process them further if they are running the same Ethernet frame type.

If these are really internal network numbers, then the question is moot. 
Internal network numbers don't need a frame type!?

Priscilla

At 10:46 AM 7/12/01, Hire, Ejay wrote:
Each different frame type acts as a separate broadcast domain, thus they
have different network numbers.

-Original Message-
From: Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Thanks for all the responses. This is the only IPX speaking box on the wire
and the first NW5.1 server to be brought up. I understand that it supports
and automatically loads all IPX frame types by default if IPX is chosen
along with the default and preferred IP protocol. From the replies it seems
that each frame type would belong to a DIFFERENT IPX network? Or is it just
DIFFERENT WAYS of writing out IPX network addresses depending on the frame
type used?
Again, thanks for the enlightenment.

Elmer

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Interesting. Why would it generate network numbers, though? Shouldn't
network numbers be manually configured?

Priscilla

At 04:11 PM 7/11/01, Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote:
 I finally feel qualified to comment on a question on this list (having
 worked with NetWare for the past 6 years)
 
 The addresses you're seeing are generated automatically.  What's
happening
 here is that the new server has every single Ethernet frame type loaded,
and
 as a result is using different IPX network number for every frame type.
New
 3.x and 4.x servers will do this if you perform an install using all the
 defaults.  You need to run INSTALL (or NWCONFIG if 5.x), edit the
 AUTOEXEC.NCF and remove all BIND statements referencing frame types you
 don't want to use.  Ethernet_II is preferred.
 
 NetWare 5.x is more restrained and tries to use IP only.
 
   Ayers, Michael  07/11/01 12:12PM 
 Those were either auto generated, or picked up from reading frames on the
 wire.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From:   Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
 
 hi, group.
 I just noticed that after installing NetWare server, it gave me this info
 regarding types of IPX frames:
 Frame type  Network address
 Ethernet_802.2  3D410DCD
 Ethernet_802.3  1E0F4F9E
 Ethernet_SNAP   FF994BB0
 Ethernet_II D393B805
 
 For the IPX gurus in the group, can someone tell me if there is some type
of
 logic as to how the network address is translated from the type of frame
 used?
 Just to answer my curiosity.
 Thank you.


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Giles, 2nd Edition Errata [7:11858]

2001-07-12 Thread Jaspreet Bhatia

John,
 Maybe I wrote in a little too strong words about the Giles
Book .But is
just that I made the mistake of spending $ 85 on this book .But that was not
my worst
mistake .It was going through it . I ended up totally confused about what I
needed to
know for the written . But I work at Cisco and know a few CCIE's and all of
them
recommended that I stay off Giles . And I thought it made sense to warn my
fellow CCIE 2
B 's  about the Giles book . Anyway Caslow ,Halabi and Doyle make excellent
reading and
make you think about stuff instead of tempting you to cram it ..


All the best in your quest ...

Jaspreet

John Neiberger wrote:

 So far I've found it to be interesting, but while reading I got the
 impression that it had WAY too much detail in some areas and not nearly
 enough detail in others.  You're right, it might be tempting to try to
 remember all the details that he packs in there when a large number of
 them most likely wouldn't be on the test.

 It also has a large number of errors, and even though many of them are
 fairly minor, they can be confusing because they often present
 contradictory information.  The answer keys to the test questions are
 especially spooky!  I've found a few examples where your choices might
 be A,B,C, or D and the answer in the key is G!  heh heh you can't
 win like that.

 Thanks for the tips!

 John

  Jaspreet Bhatia  7/12/01 10:05:34 AM 
 John,
 Take my advice . STAY OFF GILES ... this is
 the
 most
 confusing book I have read in my entire career as a Network Engineer .
 Its
 full of
 useless ,crappy information and trivia that will just end up confusing
 you
 ...

 Jaspreet

 John Neiberger wrote:

  Do any of you know where to find an errata for the 2nd edition of
 the
  All-in-One CCIE Study Guide?  I've found the first edition errata in
 several
  locations but no luck so far with the second book.
 
  I've found many errors already, especially in the end-of-chapter
 practice
  quizzes.  Considering that this is the last book I'll read before the
 test
  on Saturday, I'd like to get the correct information.  :-)  I'd hate
 to get
  confused this late in the game!
 
  Thanks,
  John
 
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The Proxy ARP process [7:12198]

2001-07-12 Thread Jaspreet Bhatia

Can anyone explain the Proxy ARP process and what kind of problems it
could cause  and why is it needed in the first place .?Thanks

Jaspreet




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Does anyone know of a hardware eng [7:12199]

2001-07-12 Thread Theresa Hunter

Hi to All,
Does anyone know of a good hardware engineer who understands NEBS? I am
looking to work with a Sr Hardware Design engineer.

Thanks,

Theresa Hunter
972-458-8365




Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 In my case I'm pre-sales. ( also known as sales slime )

 folks like me don't get all the goodies that you support folks get :-

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Gareth Hinton
 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275]


 Hi Chuck,

 Surprised to hear that a Gold partner doesn't have access to IOS or TAC
case
 support. What's the reason for that? Is that a decision within your
company
 controlling who does what or from Cisco. Sorry - I don't know what your
role
 is in the company. I take it there are groups of people within your
company
 with this access.
 I also work for a Gold Partner in post-sales support. We sort of take the
 access we have for granted. There are certain guidelines, eg. at least 50%
 of cases be raised by CCIE's, to ensure that faults are being progressed
to
 CCIE level before taking the soft option of a TAC case.
 Just curious anyway.

 Cheers,

 Gaz

 Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Cisco's IOS is it's Crown Jewels, so to speak. So Cisco restricts who
has
  access to the downloading of IOS software. Otherwise, why would anyone
pay
  for the IOS, when they could download it for free?
 
  TAC is for paying customers. There are public areas to Cisco's TAC site,
 but
  only paying customers can open cases. Otherwise, every wannabee on these
  mailing lists would be overwhelming TAC with requests for assistance. It
  must be bad enough when clueless customers call in ( once upon a time I
 was
  a clueless customer myself ;- ) Can you imagine the skyrocketing cost
of
  support if list denizens had free access to TAC?
 
  I work for a Gold Partner, and I am not permitted to download IOS
 software,
  nor am I allowed to open TAC cases. On the other hand, I can use the
  Partners' pre-sales support all I want. And I can get to a lot of the
  customer pages.
 
  Other than that, there is a tremendous amount of information that is
 freely
  available. In almost every case, a web link that contains the word
  customer can be accessed without a login by substituting the work
 public
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Michael L. Williams
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:05 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
 
 
  Well, actually, aside from this gets it, or that gets it, I stand by
my
  statement that the CCO stuff isn't a national secret, and it pisses me
off
  that Cisco protects it so.  Especially when there are CCNA/DA/NP/DP's
out
  there everyday that could use it and make Cisco themselves look that
much
  better.
 
  Mike W.
 
  Rik Guyler  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   It is possible it no longer exists or doesn't provide the benefits and
   resources it once did.  I have a CCO account through work, which gives
 me
   more liberal permissions, so I don't miss the consultant account these
  days.
   When I first signed up with the program, maybe 18 months ago, I
received
 a
   large box of documentation, slaes training materials, books, etc.
  including
   a CCO account.  After the initial shipment, I received quarterly (I
 think)
   installments of the latest and greatest of these resources.  When I
  noticed
   I wasn't getting this stuff any longer, I assumed I let my
membership
  lax.
   Like I said, it didn't really matter much to me so I never looked into
 it
   further.  I'm sure many things have been cut and considering the
expense
  of
   sending out all those CDs, books etc., it would seem like a good
 candidate
   for trimming expenses.
  
   ---
   Rik Guyler
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:08 PM
   To:
   Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275]
  
  
   At 10:50 PM 7/7/01, Rik Guyler wrote:
   Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to
  break
   it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account.  Being a
 CCIE
   does, but that's a different matter.  Instead, why don't you sign up
 with
   the consultant program?  It's free and you will get a CCO account.
  
   I signed up for the consultant program and can't get access to the
 private
   stuff that you guys (and gals) post sometimes. Are you sure this
  consultant
   program still exists? I never got anything from it. I think I got one
   newsletter maybe.
  
   Priscilla
  
 You
   can't download any software with this account but you will gain
access
 to
   the private documents, resources, etc.
   
   ---
   Rik Guyler
   
   -Original 

Re: The Proxy ARP process [7:12198]

2001-07-12 Thread Patrick Ramsey

 Jaspreet Bhatia  07/12/01 05:17PM 
Can anyone explain the Proxy ARP process and what kind of problems it
could cause  and why is it needed in the first place .?Thanks

Jaspreet




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Re: CCNP/CCIE Lab Equipment (cont.) [7:12194]

2001-07-12 Thread EA Louie

a 2509/2511 or equivalent (500-CS) commserver will offer reverse telnet.

You've got a good enough lab right now for your CCNP - make sure you're
running IP/IPX/DEC/AT code on the existing routers (if you have 16M flash
and RAM or MZMAKer  with 8M flash 16 M RAM,  and you can get Enterprise
software on some of them, all the better), and that you learn how to
configure the 2521 as a frame relay switch.

Look in some of your CCNP books for scenarios - you should be able to
replicate them with your equipment.  Good luck and let us know if you need
assistance later!

-e-

- Original Message -
From: Brian Clark 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:32 PM
Subject: CCNP/CCIE Lab Equipment (cont.) [7:12194]


 (2) 2501   $1200.00
 (1) 2502   $400.00
 (1) 2503$600.00
 (1) 2521$750.00
 (2) 1912EN switch$800.00

 and what model should I use to offer reverse telnet. Also I am not sure If
I
 need to/have the funds to purchase all this at once. To start off with,
what
 would make a Great CCNP lab. Then once I have passed the CCNP I will add
the
 items I need to study for CCIE. So basically what I am asking is what
items
 do I need to have a fully functional and great lab for CCNP



 Thanks,

 Brian Clark - A+, Network+, CCA, MCP 2000, CCNA
 Network Specialist
 Valley Services, Inc.




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Phew !!! Passed my BCMSN today !!!! [7:12202]

2001-07-12 Thread Imran Moin

Hi Gang,

Guess what...I passed my BCMSN exam
todaygot a 857 score..Though i am not
satisfied with it, but i am happy. It was much tougher
than i anticipated it to be. I got a lot of design
questions, asking specific details of 4xxx, 5xxx, 6xxx
and 8xxx switches. I was asked a loto of questions
about which equipment would be best for a given
scenario. 

Lots of Vlans and STP. A bit of Multicast and MLS but
surprisingly no HSRP...not even a single
question !!!

Phew !!  Its over for me now and i am looking forward
to BCRAN now which is due in 2 weeks from now !!

Thanks a lot to all of you there who helped me out !!

Special thanks to all those who replied my panicky
email 2 days about about LANE .there was
no LANE in the exam though some questions had a
mention abt 802.10.

All the best to all of you who plan on taking this
exam soon. If you need any more information on the
exam, i would be glad to do that.

Thanks again

Regards,
Imran.



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RE: 2 routers, 1 async line [7:12203]

2001-07-12 Thread Hire, Ejay

Due to the overwhelming number of requests, I'm posting this to the group as
well.  This is the config I use to dialup from the aux port of a 2501 to
earthlink and perform Nat on the negotiated Ip.

Current configuration:
!
version 11.3
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname ELN/username
!
enable password password
!
Ip subnet-zero
Ip Nat inside source list 99 interface Dialer1 overload
Ip name-server 216.142.210.5
chat-script dial ABORT ERROR  AT Z OK ATm0DT \T TIMEOUT 30 CONNECT \c
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 Ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
 Ip Nat inside
!
interface Async1
 no Ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer in-band
 dialer pool-member 1
 ppp authentication pap chap callin
!
interface Dialer1
 Ip address negotiated
 Ip Nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer remote-name ELN/username
 dialer string 9,9770971
 dialer hold-queue 100
 dialer pool 1
 dialer-group 1
 ppp authentication pap chap callin
 ppp chap hostname ELN/username
 ppp chap password 0 password
!
Ip classless
Ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
!
access-list 99 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255
dialer-list 1 protocol Ip permit
!
line con 0
line aux 0
 no exec
 script dialer dial
 modem InOut
 modem autoconfigure type usr_sportster
 transport input all
 stopbits 1
 speed 38400
line vty 0 4
 password password
 login
!
end

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Subject: 2 routers, 1 async line


I was wondering if you could e-mail the router configurations for external 
modems using the aux port.


Bob




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RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]

2001-07-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 02:51 PM 7/12/01, Elmer Deloso wrote:
Priscilla,
As usual you have such eloquent ways in explaining concepts. But as you
mentioned earlier that the IPX net addresses are manually configured
(preferred method?), you're implying that i can change these different
addresses to be the same IPX network address but with different
encapsulations, corrext?

No. They are different networks. They must have different IPX network 
addresses.

I think i'll put this to the test as soon as i have
time to get Sniffer running again.
Thanks for your insight.
Elmer

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Yes, each frame type is associated with a different network number. They
are not different representations of the same network number. They are
different networks.

Broadcast domains have nothing to do with it. If all devices in these four
networks are connected via hubs or switches, they see each other's
broadcasts. They process the broadcasts at the data-link-layer and only
process them further if they are running the same Ethernet frame type.

If these are really internal network numbers, then the question is moot.
Internal network numbers don't need a frame type!?

Priscilla

At 10:46 AM 7/12/01, Hire, Ejay wrote:
 Each different frame type acts as a separate broadcast domain, thus they
 have different network numbers.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
 
 
 Thanks for all the responses. This is the only IPX speaking box on the
wire
 and the first NW5.1 server to be brought up. I understand that it supports
 and automatically loads all IPX frame types by default if IPX is chosen
 along with the default and preferred IP protocol. From the replies it
seems
 that each frame type would belong to a DIFFERENT IPX network? Or is it
just
 DIFFERENT WAYS of writing out IPX network addresses depending on the frame
 type used?
 Again, thanks for the enlightenment.
 
 Elmer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
 
 
 Interesting. Why would it generate network numbers, though? Shouldn't
 network numbers be manually configured?
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 04:11 PM 7/11/01, Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote:
  I finally feel qualified to comment on a question on this list (having
  worked with NetWare for the past 6 years)
  
  The addresses you're seeing are generated automatically.  What's
happening
  here is that the new server has every single Ethernet frame type loaded,
 and
  as a result is using different IPX network number for every frame type.
 New
  3.x and 4.x servers will do this if you perform an install using all the
  defaults.  You need to run INSTALL (or NWCONFIG if 5.x), edit the
  AUTOEXEC.NCF and remove all BIND statements referencing frame types you
  don't want to use.  Ethernet_II is preferred.
  
  NetWare 5.x is more restrained and tries to use IP only.
  
Ayers, Michael  07/11/01 12:12PM 
  Those were either auto generated, or picked up from reading frames on
the
  wire.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From:   Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:31 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
  
  hi, group.
  I just noticed that after installing NetWare server, it gave me this
info
  regarding types of IPX frames:
  Frame type  Network address
  Ethernet_802.2  3D410DCD
  Ethernet_802.3  1E0F4F9E
  Ethernet_SNAP   FF994BB0
  Ethernet_II D393B805
  
  For the IPX gurus in the group, can someone tell me if there is some
type
 of
  logic as to how the network address is translated from the type of frame
  used?
  Just to answer my curiosity.
  Thank you.
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com


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RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]

2001-07-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 04:29 PM 7/12/01, Hire, Ejay wrote:
Perhaps I was unclear by my meaning.
A station running Ethernet II that receives a ethernet_Snap frame discards
it.  It is unintelligible.

The broadcast generates an interrupt though. Broadcast domains are not 
relevant to the question. Get them out of your head. ;-) The only things 
that can stop broadcasts are routers and VLANs. It has nothing to do with 
frame types.


This is was what I meant by being in separate broadcast domains.  A router
or server advertising services to more than one frame type has to generate a
separate advertisement broadcast for every frame type, thusly It is
reasonable to say that each frame type creates a separate broadcast domain.
(Same wire, separate domains.)

That's not what is normally meant by a broadcast domain.

Any station on the same switched or repeated network hears each of the 
broadcasts. If the device were on the other side of a router or in a 
different VLAN, it wouldn't hear them. The device would be in a different 
broadcast domain.


The question is rather blurry though.  If it truly is a separate broadcast
domains, then the NIC should discard the frame without generating an
interrupt.  If it passes it to the o/s to discard, then I'm not sure what it
is?!

IMHO, fwiw
-Ejay

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Yes, each frame type is associated with a different network number. They
are not different representations of the same network number. They are
different networks.

Broadcast domains have nothing to do with it. If all devices in these four
networks are connected via hubs or switches, they see each other's
broadcasts. They process the broadcasts at the data-link-layer and only
process them further if they are running the same Ethernet frame type.

If these are really internal network numbers, then the question is moot.
Internal network numbers don't need a frame type!?

Priscilla

At 10:46 AM 7/12/01, Hire, Ejay wrote:
 Each different frame type acts as a separate broadcast domain, thus they
 have different network numbers.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
 
 
 Thanks for all the responses. This is the only IPX speaking box on the
wire
 and the first NW5.1 server to be brought up. I understand that it supports
 and automatically loads all IPX frame types by default if IPX is chosen
 along with the default and preferred IP protocol. From the replies it
seems
 that each frame type would belong to a DIFFERENT IPX network? Or is it
just
 DIFFERENT WAYS of writing out IPX network addresses depending on the frame
 type used?
 Again, thanks for the enlightenment.
 
 Elmer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
 
 
 Interesting. Why would it generate network numbers, though? Shouldn't
 network numbers be manually configured?
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 04:11 PM 7/11/01, Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote:
  I finally feel qualified to comment on a question on this list (having
  worked with NetWare for the past 6 years)
  
  The addresses you're seeing are generated automatically.  What's
happening
  here is that the new server has every single Ethernet frame type loaded,
 and
  as a result is using different IPX network number for every frame type.
 New
  3.x and 4.x servers will do this if you perform an install using all the
  defaults.  You need to run INSTALL (or NWCONFIG if 5.x), edit the
  AUTOEXEC.NCF and remove all BIND statements referencing frame types you
  don't want to use.  Ethernet_II is preferred.
  
  NetWare 5.x is more restrained and tries to use IP only.
  
Ayers, Michael  07/11/01 12:12PM 
  Those were either auto generated, or picked up from reading frames on
the
  wire.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From:   Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:31 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
  
  hi, group.
  I just noticed that after installing NetWare server, it gave me this
info
  regarding types of IPX frames:
  Frame type  Network address
  Ethernet_802.2  3D410DCD
  Ethernet_802.3  1E0F4F9E
  Ethernet_SNAP   FF994BB0
  Ethernet_II D393B805
  
  For the IPX gurus in the group, can someone tell me if there is some
type
 of
  logic as to how the network address is translated from the type of frame
  used?
  Just to answer my curiosity.
  Thank you.
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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Re: 4000 verses 4500M and 4700M [7:12154]

2001-07-12 Thread Kevin Wigle

Mamoor,

First hit on a search on CCO:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/4000.htm

Also, this link was posted to the list recently.  I used it to verify
my router was a 4500M.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/29.html

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: Ahmed Mamoor Amimi 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 12 July, 2001 12:24
Subject: 4000 verses 4500M and 4700M [7:12154]


 Hi,
 Can anyone tell me the difference b/w 4000 and 4500M.
 The price for 4000 used is very low as compared to 4500M or 4700M. I
 think there is no difference except of memory.
 Please correct me

 Thanks,
 Mamoor
 CNE CCIP




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Re: 4000 verses 4500M and 4700M [7:12154]

2001-07-12 Thread Circusnuts

There are a lot of little things that make the 4000, 4000m, 4500, 4500m, 
the 4700 series different.  For you  me (home lab people), you must have @
least a 4500 to run ATM  FE modules.  Anything more is of no value unless
you're with production.  The 4700M is probably a year away from having too
little RAM for full BGP tables, so odds are you'll see these pushed down
toward the Access layer...  if they're still being used (@ least that's the
way I saw things in parts of the US government's network).

Have I hit on anything you asked :o)
Phil

- Original Message -
From: Ahmed Mamoor Amimi 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: 4000 verses 4500M and 4700M [7:12154]


 Hi,
 Can anyone tell me the difference b/w 4000 and 4500M.
 The price for 4000 used is very low as compared to 4500M or 4700M. I
 think there is no difference except of memory.
 Please correct me

 Thanks,
 Mamoor
 CNE CCIP




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Distributed Director + [7:12208]

2001-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey Gang - Just curious...I have a pair of Distributed Directors sitting
around doing nothing (for right now, they will be used for a co-location
facility in the near future) I was wondering if anybody knows any reason why
I cannot slap some NP-4T modules in these units to use for a Frame Relay
cloud in our lab ???

Thanks in advance

DD_1#show ver
Cisco DistributedDirector System Software
IOS (tm) 4500 Software (C4500-W3-M), Version 11.1(23)IA, EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEAS
E SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 24-Nov-98 00:07 by cynthia
Image text-base: 0x600088A0, data-base: 0x6046

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.3(16) [richardd 16], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
FLASH: 4500 Software (C4500-BOOT-M), Version 11.2(14)P,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)

DD_1 uptime is 7 weeks, 1 hour, 52 minutes
System restarted by reload at 12:59:09 PDT Thu May 24 2001
System image file is flash:c4500-w3-mz.111-23.IA, booted via flash

cisco 4700 (R4K) processor (revision F) with 32768K/4096K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 22485722
R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0 (Level 2 Cache)
G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0.
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
1 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface.
128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
4096K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write)



Thanks,

Duncan

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800.COM Inc.
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RE: The Proxy ARP process [7:12198]

2001-07-12 Thread Ted Dronen

What it is:

Proxy ARP is a method by which routers make themselves available to hosts
that do not have a configured default gateway.  Proxy ARP is enabled on
Cisco routers by default.

no ip proxy arp is the command to disable Proxy Arp on a per interface basis.

Consider the following: 

Host A (192.168.1.2/24) needs to send a packet to host B (192.168.2.2/24)
located in another network.   A router with two ethernet ports connects to
the 192.168.1.0 network on its first Ethernet port, and connects to the
192.168.2.0 network on its second Ethernet port.

192.168.1.0  192.168.2.0
Network  Network
Host A---Router--Host B
.2.1.1   .2

Host A does not have a configured default gateway, and therefore does not
know how to reach a router to connect to hosts outside the 192.168.1.0
network.  Consequently, it may issue an APR request for 192.168.2.2.  The
router, receiving this request on Ethernet 1 (with Proxy ARP enabled), and
knowing how to reach network 192.168.2.0, will issue an ARP Reply with its
own MAC address in the hardware address field of the ARP Reply.  In doing
so, Host A believes that the router's Ethernet1 interface is the interface
of Host B.  Host A will make an entry in its ARP table using the MAC address
of Ethernet1 on the router for Host B and unicast all subsequent packets for
Host B to the router.

See RFCs 925, and 1027.

Are you having specific trouble with something?


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Re: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I think you'll find this is quite normal.  

The device exist #msecs , port non-existent *, device exists #msecs
and so on.

Basically the device exists but the socket you are attempting is not open. 
Spot on trace I'd say

Just a thoought

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia




On Thursday, July 12, 2001 at 04:19:43 PM, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

 Have you checked duplex?  Sometimes speed and duplex settings have a
similar
 effect.  Things seem to work properly, but you are dropping packets which
 slows the application down.  Obviously if you have one end at 10 and the
 other is at 100, you will run into major issues, but sometimes
 autonegotiation is flakey.  If you are using auto on both devices, check
the
 interface for speed and duplex it auto'd to.
 
 If this is across a serial link, what is the bandwidth?
 
 Also, is this a core router that stays fairly busy?  what is it's
 utilization?  Sometimes routers will drop pings if they are busy.
 
 -Patrick
 
  JHIGGINS  07/12/01 04:01PM 
 When I trace from a cisco router to another Cisco router I get a timeout
 failure every other probe on the last hop  It fails on every type of
 cisco router I have tried, 7513,25xx abd 36xx.  I think that it must be
 normal but I cannot find anything in the archives here or at the Cisco
 site that says it is normal? See following where I do a trace between
 two routers on connected interfaces.
 
  *  4 msec *  4 msec *  8 msec *  8 msec
 r1#trace
 Protocol [ip]:
 Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
 Source address: 192.168.10.1
 % Invalid source address
 r1#trace
 Protocol [ip]:
 Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
 Source address: 192.168.10.2
 Numeric display [n]:
 Timeout in seconds [3]:
 Probe count [3]: 15
 Minimum Time to Live [1]:
 Maximum Time to Live [30]:
 Port Number [33434]:
 Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to 192.168.10.1
 
   1 192.168.10.1 4 msec 4 msec *  8 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec
 *  8 msec
  *  4 msec *
 r1#
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RE: Duplicate Ip addresses ! [7:12100]

2001-07-12 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

You might find that the HP Openview databse still has an entry for the port
in an other layer in the model.  Do a search for it in the edit mode and
then you will need to delete it.  The most common cause for this error is
not so much duplicate addresses but duplicated models (in my experience).

Just a thought,

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Thursday, July 12, 2001 at 02:08:05 PM, Peter Slow wrote:

 clear your arp table.
 -humboldt
 
 -Original Message-
 From: shella kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Duplicate Ip addresses ! [7:12100]
 
 
 mmmhh ! yes i shutdown the interface and then bring it up ... looks
like
 
 the software issue to me too  anyother way i can check on the
cisco
 router if they still exists?
 
 btw what is NOC ?
 
 From: Chuck Larrieu 
 To: shella kevin , 
 Subject: RE: Duplicate Ip addresses ! [7:12100]
 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 03:47:34 -0700
 
 what are you - the night shift in the NOC?
 
 when you say you decommissioned the interfaces, did you issue shutdown
 commands? physically pull the wires so they aren't connected to anything?
 
 in general, issuing a shutdown command on an interface prevents it from
 telling the network about itself. I'm wondering if your monitoring
software
 has failed to flush the old interfaces, and is complaining when it sees
the
 new interfaces come on line when it already has those addresses in its
 database.
 
 Chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 shella kevin
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Duplicate Ip addresses ! [7:12100]
 
 
 I am monitoring cisco routes via netview. I decommissioned 2 interfaces on
 the cisco router and put it on an other outer. Now I am getting alerts on
 netview  Duplicate Ip addresses.. it's the same ip
 addresses/FastEthernet interface which I decommissioned.
 
 How can I address this problem ?
 How to flush out this on a route ?
 
 Cheers
 Shella k
 
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Re: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries?? [7:12212]

2001-07-12 Thread John Neiberger

Could you accomplish this by making the area containing the ASBR a
stubby area?  IIRC, you can put an ASBR inside a stubby area but the
Type-5 LSAs will not leave the area.  I'm not sure about that, but I'd
swear I read that somewhere recently.

Okay, I just checked this in Giles, 2nd edition.  According to him, the
above is true.  But who knows if it works in the real world.

Good luck!

John

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 7/12/01 1:58:11 PM 
hi all,

have a problem that has been nagging at me for a good long time now...

say you have a pair of ABRs sitting at an OSPF area boundary, and an
ASBR is
originating Type-5 LSAs from inside the non-backbone area.  Is there an
easy
way to suppress the propagation of the type-5s outside the area?  I
would
have a range statement on the ABRs to advertise the area aggregate, I
just
want to suppress the more specifics.

I have tried using 'distribute-list out ' which would do it for
me, but for some reason IOS won't allow this with OSPF:

router(config)#router os 1
router(config-router)#distribute-list 1 out FastEthernet 0/0
% Interface not allowed with OUT for OSPF
router(config-router)#

I suppose that allowing this could potentially screw up routing if
done
without some care, but JunOS lets you do exactly this sort of thing -
you
can produce some wacky policies, but at least you have the option ;-)

btw - I know I could prolly do this with multiple OSPF instances and
redistribute between them, but I *really* don't want to get into this
level
of complexity.

thanks in advance - this one has been driving me mad

Andy




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NTP: Question on authentication [7:12213]

2001-07-12 Thread Jerry Seven

NTP gurus,

I have two routers, R2  is configured to be NTP server, R7 is NTP client,  I
set the authentication on the server side, on client only the basic config,
but client can still synchronize to the server:

R2#sh run | be ntp
ntp authentication-key 10 md5 02070658 7
ntp authentication-key 20 md5 12180416 7
ntp authenticate
ntp trusted-key 10
ntp trusted-key 20
ntp clock-period 17179824
ntp update-calendar
ntp server 172.10.27.3 key 20
end

R2#
--
R7#sh run | be ntp
ntp clock-period 17180004
ntp server 172.10.27.1
end

R7#sh ntp s
Clock is synchronized, stratum 10, reference is 172.10.27.1
nominal freq is 250. Hz, actual freq is 249.9980 Hz, precision is 2**24
reference time is BEF831D9.8D762DCD (07:25:29.552 PDT Thu Jul 12 2001)
clock offset is -62.3280 msec, root delay is 3.46 msec
root dispersion is 939.09 msec, peer dispersion is 0.46 msec
R7#

I turned on the NTP debug, the packet R7 sent to R2 doesn't have any
authentication key, why R2 still accept it?

The images are 12.0.

Thanks,
Jerry


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Books for sale!!! (Cisco Press, Microsoft Press, Linux) [7:12214]

2001-07-12 Thread JC

Hello,

I have the following books for sale should anyone want to buy them:

1) Designing Wide area networks.  (This book is absolutely awesome, I've
read it continuously at my job, if you have a say in the design of networks
or are just getting started with networking, this is the book to have.  It
jumbles to together all the facts of building a reliable network from
servers, to firewalls, to routers, to switches, to telco lines, to the
competitive nature of lecs, clecs, and ilecs, etcc...  Excellent way to
learn how all networks, including the internet tie together and how they
have come to be and the details of each.

I'm selling it for $50.00

2) Telecommunications Factbook (Explains every Telco abbreviation in detail,
excellent reference book).

I'm selling it for $20.00

3) Linux Certification Box Set (Incudes up-to-date coverage of all Linux
certifications, this study set was created by Wave Technologies and includes
all versions of the Linux OS.  Excellent for those needing to learn Unix.

It goes for major dollars on the Wave Technologies site, I'm selling it for
$100.00

4) Windows 2000 Skills update (This box set includes all the books you will
need to prepare for the accelerated upgrade MCSE exam.  This box set was put
out by Wave Technologies)

I'm selling it for $100.00

5) Internetworking Technologies Handbook (2nd Edition) by Cisco Press.  If
you need a book which describes all Cisco Networking topics in detail this
is the reference to have.

I'm selling it for $30.00

6)Windows 2000 Server Study Guide by Sybex.

I'm selling it for $30.00

If you are interested in any of these books please send me an e-mail with
which book you would like and I can ship that out to you.  I accept payment
via Paypal, so all you need is a credit card and the deal is done.  You
might wonder why I'm selling all of these books, well its because I'm
thinking about a career change.  I've sold off a portion of the rest of my
books, so now is your chance to get some great books at very low prices,
shop and compare if you find it lower I'll mark mine down.  Please contact
me via e-mail at:

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Thanks to all at this group study, it is an awesome place to be.

Sincerely,

JC




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Re: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]

2001-07-12 Thread Michael L. Williams

I don't have any lab equipment I have a 2900 (NOT 2900XL) switch I'm
looking to sell.  But I'm planning on renting rack time...

Mike W.
FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT)  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Paul...I have NO lab equipment at my disposal.  I'm currently
 a CCDP preparing for the CCIE written.

 Tom Fleming.

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Cantagi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:20 PM
 To: FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT); Michael L. Williams
 Subject: Re: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]


 Also, what kind of lab equipment do you have at your disposal?
 - Original Message -
 From: FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT)
 To: Michael L. Williams ;
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:03 PM
 Subject: RE: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]


  I'm Still working on the written... I'd certainly be willing
  to get together and talk about the material...
 
  I work downtown and live in So. County.
 
  Thanks,
  Tom Fleming
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:58 PM
  To: FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]
 
 
  Kewl.. my e-mail is now correct in my posts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
so
  feel free to e-mail me   I'm wanting to finish the CID exam (to
finish
  CCDP), but then I wanna tear into Caslow, Doyle, etc and get on with the
  written. Are you two past the written into the lab studies or still
  working on the written?  Lemme know.
 
  I wouldn't mind coordinating some kind of weekly get together
somewhere
  here in town once a week or so to talk about this stuff  I think
 working
  on lab scenarios together (buying some rack time and working through
  scenarios together) could really help...
 
  Mike W.
 
  FLEMING, THOMAS E (SWBT)  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Another St. Louis person working on CCIE.
  
   Tom Fleming
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:34 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Anyone studying for CCIE in St. Louis area? [7:11879]
  
  
   Just wondering. I feel left out seeing all of the posts for study
   partners in every other part of the US.
  
   Heh.
  
   Mike W.




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Cisco emulator [7:12216]

2001-07-12 Thread James

Does anyone know where I can find Cisco emulator software to get use to
using IOS commands??

Thanks




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Re: Low BRI througput [7:12078]

2001-07-12 Thread Michael L. Williams

I was configuring an ISDN link yesterday/today and I just recently read
something saying to turn off WFQ also

Mike W.
Charlie Hartwell  wrote in message
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 It would be interesting to see the document that recommends that
 action - after all, WFQ is designed to help with low bandwidth links
 without the need for complicated config.

 It is more likely that it is recommended to turn off WFQ when using
 ppp multilink across the ISDN connection. This is probably to avoid
 any unnecessary fragment delay which could lead to malformed packets
 and retransmissions.

 So in answer to your question, there is no real connection between
 BRI performance and WFQ but cisco probably recommend disabling WFQ to
 avoid other problems.

 Cheers

 Charlie

  --- Mohammed Saro  wrote:  Dear Sir
Cisco recommends for low throughput for the ISDN BRI to verify
  that fair
  queuing is not enabled can anyone tell me the relationship between
  fair
  queuing and BRI throughput ?
 
  Best Regards,
  Mohammed Saro
  Network Engineer
  GEGA NET
  Tel: +202-4149771 Ext:111
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Re: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries?? [7:12218]

2001-07-12 Thread Allen

What about making the area between the ASBR and ABR a not so stubby area
(NSSA).  If these are Cisco routers you could then use the summary-address
command on the ASBR to summarize the external routes.  The ABR will then
convert the type 7 NSSA LSAs to type 5 LSAs.

What do you think

 wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 hi all,

 have a problem that has been nagging at me for a good long time now...

 say you have a pair of ABRs sitting at an OSPF area boundary, and an ASBR
is
 originating Type-5 LSAs from inside the non-backbone area.  Is there an
easy
 way to suppress the propagation of the type-5s outside the area?  I would
 have a range statement on the ABRs to advertise the area aggregate, I just
 want to suppress the more specifics.

 I have tried using 'distribute-list out ' which would do it for
 me, but for some reason IOS won't allow this with OSPF:

 router(config)#router os 1
 router(config-router)#distribute-list 1 out FastEthernet 0/0
 % Interface not allowed with OUT for OSPF
 router(config-router)#

 I suppose that allowing this could potentially screw up routing if done
 without some care, but JunOS lets you do exactly this sort of thing - you
 can produce some wacky policies, but at least you have the option ;-)

 btw - I know I could prolly do this with multiple OSPF instances and
 redistribute between them, but I *really* don't want to get into this
level
 of complexity.

 thanks in advance - this one has been driving me mad

 Andy




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RE: Security Specialization (PIX) [7:12129]

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Wilkins

Until recently there seemed to be very little available training for PIX's. 
It was just a small portion of the MCNS course.  You may already know this,
but just in case: Cisco now has a new security certifiction as of a couple
of months ago.  They now have a separate full-blown class on the PIX, which
logically would mean that even if you don't want to attend that class, you
might be able to get the course material from Global Knowledge or Cisco Press.

If you can get a copy of the MCNS 2.0 materials, that would probably be a
good thing too.

Hope that helps.

Brian Wilkins


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RE: Security Certifications [7:12116]

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Wilkins

CISSP is a pretty good generic one.  By generic I don't mean easy, just
very non-vendor-specific.  It's been around for a long time, but has only
recently started to regain popularity.

Another that is up and coming is ICSA (TruSecure)'s new ICSA professional
certifications.  Check out www.trusecure.com or www.icsa.com.  You can also
find more info on that one at www.globalknowledge.com.  My inside sources
there tell me that they are starting to agressively define the
certifications, courses, etc.  A lot of companies use ICSA for security
consulting, so I expect that thier professinal certs will be huge too.

FWIW,

Brian Wilkins


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BRICKS - I need 'em. Seen 'em? [7:12221]

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Wilkins

I know this is going to sound unusual, but I figure as much traffic as this
site gets, SOMEBODY must have an answer.

Several months ago, I was in an ACRC class, and the instructor had a little
program that consisted of a bricks server and bricks clients.  I believe
this was a Windows app.  The way it functioned was essentially that you
could define what each brick represented such as TCP, UDP, or other packets,
what size, and modify virtually any parameter of the bricks.  The clients
would then pull the bricks from the server, giving show on the monitor a
graphical representation of bricks stacking up, with the speed varying as
changes were made to the network.  It was used in tha class to demonstrate
queuing and some other performance-tuning issues.

I would like to get my hands on that program, or something very similar if
anyone knows where I could obtain it.  I want to use it for demonstrating
graphically to upper management and others, some plans that I have for
network reconfiguration.  I can show them utilization stats all day, but I
really think the bricks might make it clear to them.

Any help is appreciated.

Brian Wilkins


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RE: Asynch on 3640 [7:12142]

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Wilkins

It sounds like you are trying to configure dialbackup.  If this is the case,
you just need to put a backup interface statement under the interface to
be backed up, configure a route with a higher admin-distance on the backup
interface, and setup an ACL to specify interesting traffic.  If you get
those item accomplished, it should work.

Hope that helps.

Brian Wilkins


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ipsec [7:12223]

2001-07-12 Thread Gayathri

Hi Group,

Has anyone expereinced IPSec problem on Windows 2k.

With IPSec enabled on Win2k , server at both ends over the wan links just
cant ping each other.

Within the same subnet, and when windows 2kservers are in the same domain ,
i can ping them.

I found from cisco web site that , nothing need sot be enabled at the
router, and the router has to just forward the packets, since win2k is
handling the ipsec.

Any thoughts??

Gayathri




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Re: Cisco emulator [7:12216]

2001-07-12 Thread Chi Wong

www.routersim.com

also try Cisco Interactive Mentor's series of CBTs


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ipsec [7:12225]

2001-07-12 Thread Gayathri

Hi Group,

Has anyone expereinced IPSec problem on Windows 2k.

With IPSec enabled on Win2k , server at both ends over the wan links just
cant ping each other.

Within the same subnet, and when windows 2kservers are in the same domain ,
i can ping them.

I found from cisco web site that , nothing need sot be enabled at the
router, and the router has to just forward the packets, since win2k is
handling the ipsec.

Any thoughts??

Gayathri




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CCDA Questions [7:12226]

2001-07-12 Thread maurice yu

Dear All,

Please advise if anyone have idea on the format of
CCDA exams - are they all multiple choices? 

Thanks in advance!

Chung

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CCDA Monday [7:12227]

2001-07-12 Thread Russ Kreigh

Hello all, I am taking my CCDA at the Chicago Networkers this Monday, and was
looking for tips on what to concentrate my last couple review days on, and
any
advice.

Thanks

-Russ




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VTP Question, critical [7:12229]

2001-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron.z)

Hi, all
I encountered a critical problem, I want to use trunk between Cat5K and 
Cat2924 switches. But now, when i set the 2924 to be in VTP Client or 
Server, it is enforced to be in Transparent mode. why? 

I need your help. 
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Re: CCDA Questions [7:12226]

2001-07-12 Thread Chi Wong

All multiple choice and senario based questions too

Good Luck


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 Please advise if anyone have idea on the format of
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Re: CCDA Questions [7:12226]

2001-07-12 Thread fahim

Hi
You will get nearly 25-30 questions on 4 Scenarios.rest is as usual cisco
questions.  but still its tougher than ccna

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Re: CCDA Monday [7:12227]

2001-07-12 Thread fahim

Concentrate on case studies, You will get 4 Case studies and 25-30 questions
minimum. rest all click the best.

fahim
ccna ccda
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RE: port block unicast and multicast [7:12052]

2001-07-12 Thread Quek, Steven

Hi,

Priscilla, thank you very much for the info.

I was hoping for your response for I always enjoy your email on the mailing
discussion.
In fact I enjoy reading your DCN book. It is informative  straight to the
point.
In fact I used for reference for some of my propsed solution.

The regional project I am handling was having problem with Port Monitoring
and the customer has various types of Cisco switch. I faced this problem
for the Cat6000 when SPAN was enabled. I guess I need to study further
how to configure the SPAN to I understand the SPAN work on the Cat6000.

When SPAN was enabled on Cat6000, the LAN EIGRP routing entries were
lost on the Router Ethernet port. I guess I have to configure the CAT6000
to forward the EIGRP multicast traffic and other types of traffic. Thus,
this is not a workable solution for my customer to go through all these.

Thank you  have a great weekend.

With regards
Steven Quek


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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:33 AM
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Subject: RE: port block unicast and multicast [7:12052]


See some comments below.

At 06:01 AM 7/12/01, Quek, Steven wrote:
Hi,

I am glad that this topic is discussed here. In fact currently I am doing
a project that is trying to make use of the Port Monitoring/SPAN
feature as a form of keepalive  duplicate traffic discovery
with a third party product. I won't go into that detail.

I had read the portion of info at the directed web link. But would like to
confirm my doubts. I need all the valuable advise and inputs from all of
you.

May be I am poor in my English to interpret this. Appreciate to confirm,
does that mean all Cisco Switches, be it Cat 19xx, 29xx, 5xxx, 6xxx, etc
have the similar feature of blocking Unknow Unicast  Unregistered
Multicast

I have only seen this with the Cat 1900. You will need to check Cisco 
documentation for the other switches. I checked the 6xxx and 5xxx 
documentation and monitoring multicasts is enabled by default for those 
switches. Multicasts are not blocked.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sw_6_2/confg_gd/
span.htm#xtocid147020

Monitoring multicasts is configurable. See this command:

set span {src_mod/src_ports | src_vlans | sc0} {dest_mod/dest_port} [rx | 
tx | both] [inpkts {enable | disable}] [learning {enable | disable}] 
[multicast {enable | disable}]
[filter vlans...] [create]



from forwarding through the Source port  not reaching the destination
directed ports?
The traffic is also not forwarded out of the connected port to the
connected
neighbouring
port?

 Source Switch Port1Router-WAN
 |   ^
Mirrored Traffic---|   |
 |Eth
   Destine Switch Port2

Based on the above diagram for simple discussion.

Does that means EIGRP routing entries will be discarded at the Switch Port1
 not updated to the Router

I am assuming that EIGRP multicasts arrive from the router at switch port 1 
in your diagram, and port 1 is the monitored (mirrored) port and port 2 is 
the monitor port where the analyzer resides. You will not see the EIGRP 
multicasts on the destination (monitor) port 2 when using a Cat 1900. The 
EIGRP multicasts should go out all other ports on the switch (depending on 
VLAN and other configurations.) So, it won't cause any operational problems 
on a network. It just makes monitoring difficult.

Note that EIGRP uses multicasts for hellos. It sends routing updates 
directly to neighbors, so you would see those on the monitor port.

Ethernet port? Similar CDP, Multicast Video streaming, Mainframe
application, ...etc, will not able
to pass through the Monitored port?

I also do not see CDP on my monitor port on my Cat 1900. I haven't tried 
multicast video or other applications.


Lastly, is there a way to enable all traffic to flow through the Monitored
switch port?

Well, it blocks unregistered multicasts. Theoretically you could 
register the port to receive multicasts. I don't know how, though. IGMP?

Sorry, I don't know more about this. I'm just discovering the problems 
myself. But I think it's just a Cat 1900 problem.

Priscilla


Hope to hear some comments on this. Apprecaite the inputs.

Cheers.

regard
Steven Quek

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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: port block unicast and multicast [7:12052]


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
  Has anyone seen this and is there a workaround?
 
  On a Catalyst 1900 switch enterprise edition, the software has decided
that
  one of my ports should not flood unknown unicast or multicast. This
  wouldn't be a problem except that the port is also my monitor port for
  sniffing packets, and I WANT to see unknown unicast and multicast. I'm
  trying to see EIGRP, CDP, etc. from a router connected to another port.
The
  monitoring 

Could you give me some detail information About course of CCNA? [7:12234]

2001-07-12 Thread Le Quang Hieu

I am woking for a company is Cisco'partner in Vietnam, I must pass at least
CCNA as job standard. I learn that step-by-step difficulty acknowledgements
in
later exames, I intend to take exame on septemper, please you give me what
latest course for CCNA  how I can get it
I am looking forward recieving your information
best regards




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RE: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries?? [7:12235]

2001-07-12 Thread Jerrold Feigenbaum

I agree with the last post. We did this similar simulation in a lab setup
for pre-production implementation on our network. NSSA area works
great.Keeps LSA type 7's in the NSSA and then if you want you can translate
type 7's to type 5 LSA's at the ABR to area 0.0.0.0 Good reference is John
T. Moy's OSPF Anatomy of an Internet Routing Protocol and Cisco Press
Routing TCP/IP Volume I.John's book gives you the industry standard view of
OSPF and the Cisco Press book will give you Cisco specific issues as well.
Check out Chapter 9 page 482 in the Cisco book.

Hope this helps!

Jerrold

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Allen
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:07 PM
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Subject: Re: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries??
[7:12218]


What about making the area between the ASBR and ABR a not so stubby area
(NSSA).  If these are Cisco routers you could then use the summary-address
command on the ASBR to summarize the external routes.  The ABR will then
convert the type 7 NSSA LSAs to type 5 LSAs.

What do you think

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 hi all,

 have a problem that has been nagging at me for a good long time now...

 say you have a pair of ABRs sitting at an OSPF area boundary, and an ASBR
is
 originating Type-5 LSAs from inside the non-backbone area.  Is there an
easy
 way to suppress the propagation of the type-5s outside the area?  I would
 have a range statement on the ABRs to advertise the area aggregate, I just
 want to suppress the more specifics.

 I have tried using 'distribute-list out ' which would do it for
 me, but for some reason IOS won't allow this with OSPF:

 router(config)#router os 1
 router(config-router)#distribute-list 1 out FastEthernet 0/0
 % Interface not allowed with OUT for OSPF
 router(config-router)#

 I suppose that allowing this could potentially screw up routing if done
 without some care, but JunOS lets you do exactly this sort of thing - you
 can produce some wacky policies, but at least you have the option ;-)

 btw - I know I could prolly do this with multiple OSPF instances and
 redistribute between them, but I *really* don't want to get into this
level
 of complexity.

 thanks in advance - this one has been driving me mad

 Andy




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RE: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries?? [7:12236]

2001-07-12 Thread Jerrold Feigenbaum

Setting up the ASBR in an NSSA area will work. We connected a Nortel CVX to
two Extreme Networks Layer 3 switches acting as the ABR'S then off to two
more layer 2 switches then to two Cisco 7200 routers in a lab. We were able
to keep the LSA type 7's in the NSSA area. It works just fine. With the
Extreme L3 boxes we could use the translate option to translate LSA type 7
to LSA type 5 through the ABR's.

Jerrold

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John Neiberger
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LSA type-5 suppression across OSPF area boundaries??
[7:12212]


Could you accomplish this by making the area containing the ASBR a
stubby area?  IIRC, you can put an ASBR inside a stubby area but the
Type-5 LSAs will not leave the area.  I'm not sure about that, but I'd
swear I read that somewhere recently.

Okay, I just checked this in Giles, 2nd edition.  According to him, the
above is true.  But who knows if it works in the real world.

Good luck!

John

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 7/12/01 1:58:11 PM 
hi all,

have a problem that has been nagging at me for a good long time now...

say you have a pair of ABRs sitting at an OSPF area boundary, and an
ASBR is
originating Type-5 LSAs from inside the non-backbone area.  Is there an
easy
way to suppress the propagation of the type-5s outside the area?  I
would
have a range statement on the ABRs to advertise the area aggregate, I
just
want to suppress the more specifics.

I have tried using 'distribute-list out ' which would do it for
me, but for some reason IOS won't allow this with OSPF:

router(config)#router os 1
router(config-router)#distribute-list 1 out FastEthernet 0/0
% Interface not allowed with OUT for OSPF
router(config-router)#

I suppose that allowing this could potentially screw up routing if
done
without some care, but JunOS lets you do exactly this sort of thing -
you
can produce some wacky policies, but at least you have the option ;-)

btw - I know I could prolly do this with multiple OSPF instances and
redistribute between them, but I *really* don't want to get into this
level
of complexity.

thanks in advance - this one has been driving me mad

Andy




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RE: Could you give me some detail information About course of [7:12237]

2001-07-12 Thread Daniel Cotts

All the information is on the Cisco web site. Finding it may be difficult.
See:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-507.html
Watch the word wrap.
This will provide you with the list of topics that you must know.

You say that you work for a Cisco Partner. Do they have any books or
training materials that you could study? Can any of your co-workers help you
with your study? Do they have any equipment such as routers or switches that
you can use?
Is it possible for you to purchase books published in the USA? If so, a very
good book for CCNA study is:
CCNA Cisco Certified Network Associate : Study Guide (with CD-ROM)
by Todd Lammle Hardcover - 832 pages 2nd edition (June 2000) 
Sybex; ISBN: 0782126472

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 Subject: Could you give me some detail information About 
 course of CCNA?
 [7:12234]
 
 
 I am woking for a company is Cisco'partner in Vietnam, I must 
 pass at least
 CCNA as job standard. I learn that step-by-step difficulty 
 acknowledgements
 in
 later exames, I intend to take exame on septemper, please you 
 give me what
 latest course for CCNA  how I can get it
 I am looking forward recieving your information
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Re: Could you give me some detail information About course of [7:12239]

2001-07-12 Thread fahim

HI
for CCNA, You can take CCNA course from any Cisco Authorized training center
or Cisco Network Academy, if you one in your country.
Furthermore you can start preparing by buying these two books.
Todd Lamle's CCNA guide published by Sybex or you can prepare with Cisco
Press Book for CCNA.
The exam code is 640-507.

Fahim
CCNA CCDA
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questions on IPSEc - realworld implementation [7:12238]

2001-07-12 Thread nrf

Hello -

I got some questions on IPSec, wonder if some gurus here can help me out.
The questions are not about how to set it up, but rather why you would want
to set up certain options.  I hope somebody can answer any or all of these
questions:

1) Cisco routers allow you to create a tunnel with both AH authentication
and ESP authentication (not ESP encryption, but ESP authentication) at the
same time.  Considering the overhead involved (more SA's have to be built,
packet gets longer, etc.), why would you ever want to combine them?  More
specifically, since AH authentication is stronger than ESP authentication
(because AH actually checks the integrity of some IP header fields and ESP
does not), then provided that you have already decided to do AH
authentication, is there ever a good reason to also do ESP authentication as
well?   I agree that AH authentication combined with ESP encryption is
something good to do, but would you ever want to combine AH authentication
with ESP authentication?

I'm sure that there is a good reason to do this, could somebody tell me what
that reason might be?

2) Can anybody come up with a reason to use a transformset with the keyword
esp-null, which is no encryption at all?

OK, I understand you might want to create a tunnel with just authentication,
and no encryption.  Fine, I have no problem understanding  that.  But then,
why not just leave out any encryption keyword (ergo - just don't type
esp-des or esp-3des), which seems to me would do the accomplish thing as
typing esp-null?  Maybe that's just a question of semantics, but it seems
quite odd to me that IOS would have a command that does the same thing as
typing nothing.

3) As a real-world consideration, is it true that AH is essentially becoming
unpopular, and the industry as a whole is consolidating around ESP?

Thanx to all responders




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Re: CCNP/CCIE Lab Equipment (cont.) [7:12194]

2001-07-12 Thread Eugene Nine

look for some of the odd models.  I picked up a 2507 and a 2516 which are
basically a 2501 and 2503 with a built in hub for $400 and $450.
Eugene

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 (2) 2501   $1200.00
 (1) 2502   $400.00
 (1) 2503$600.00
 (1) 2521$750.00
 (2) 1912EN switch$800.00

 and what model should I use to offer reverse telnet. Also I am not sure If
I
 need to/have the funds to purchase all this at once. To start off with,
what
 would make a Great CCNP lab. Then once I have passed the CCNP I will add
the
 items I need to study for CCIE. So basically what I am asking is what
items
 do I need to have a fully functional and great lab for CCNP



 Thanks,

 Brian Clark - A+, Network+, CCA, MCP 2000, CCNA
 Network Specialist
 Valley Services, Inc.




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OSPF (newbie) problem [7:12241]

2001-07-12 Thread John Brandis

 HI All
 
 I was doing some study last night and I tried to implement OSPF as my
 routing protocol.  I have 2 routers on the same ethernet LAN (with
 configs for a wide area network) and I was trying to get the routers
 to use OSPF to update and distribute the respective routers route
 tables. However, this did not work.
 
 10.10.30.0|-|   int e0  10.10.10.1
 255.255.255.0int fast 0|---|   10.10.20.0
 |
 |-
 -|
 |-
 int bri0  |-|
 |_| int bri0
   router 1603
 router 1720
 
 This is my setup, I know very cheap. I can get the routers to ping
 each other and also sh cdp info, but I cant see route updates.
 
 This is the command I entered on both
 
 1603: 1720:
 router ospf 10router ospf 10
 network 10.10.10.0network 10.10.10.0
 network 10.10.30.0network 10.10.20.0
 
 I checked the sh ip route and could not see anything indicating the
 routes were known
 
 Any help ???
 
 Thanks for your time. The group has been going really well, lots of
 questions and answers coming,.
 
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 Sydney Australia




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St. Louis, MO - Cisco LAB RACK TIME [7:12242]

2001-07-12 Thread Dwayne

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St. Louis, MO - Cisco LAB RACK TIME [7:12243]

2001-07-12 Thread Dwayne

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RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Joseph Higgins

This problem shows up on any cisco router that I have tried, about 20
routers. It appears from a debug packet and debug icmp on the final
destination router that the final destination router still has the port open
while it is handling the previous trace probe.  I want to know if anyone can
get this to work correctly and if not where is this normal error indication
documented.  Following is a trace with a probe count of 15.  I have included
the debug output from the destination router.

termsvr#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.2
Source address:
Numeric display [n]:
Timeout in seconds [3]:
Probe count [3]: 15
Minimum Time to Live [1]:
Maximum Time to Live [30]:
Port Number [33434]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.10.2

  1 192.168.10.2 16 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20
msec
*  20 msec *  20 msec
termsvr#  


Result of debug packet and ICMP on 192.168.10.2

01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:14: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:17: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:20: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:23: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:26: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:29: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:32: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:35: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
r1#


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help me on ISDN emulator [7:12245]

2001-07-12 Thread Ahmed Mamoor Amimi

Hi,
I have setup all my lab for my CCIE but i am in lack of ISDN lines or
emulator.
can anyone help me out what is the cheapest ISDN emulator.
have anyone worked on PCs based ISDN emulator i think that will be
not so much expensive...
i have some sites on net that give ISDN emulator but they are
expesive. if anyone selling his ISDN
emulator then please let me know




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RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Joseph Higgins

Even the example at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/ext_ping_trace.html
shows this failure but provides no explanation.


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sorry for my earlier picture [7:12247]

2001-07-12 Thread John Brandis

Sorry

1603
int bri010.10.30.1

int e010.10.10.1

1720
int bri010.10.20.1
int e0  10.10.10.2

Was trying to figure out why the routes were not distributed via
OSPF

Thanks for any comments and once again, sorry for the earlier picture.

John Brandis
Sydney Australia




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Re: Phew !!! Passed my BCMSN today !!!! [7:12202]

2001-07-12 Thread George Murphy CCNP, CCDA

Congratulation Imran!, that exam is good at throwing curve balls. Good luck
on BCRAN, I
thought it was a lot easier, especially if you have some good ISDN
background.

Imran Moin wrote:

 Hi Gang,

 Guess what...I passed my BCMSN exam
 todaygot a 857 score..Though i am not
 satisfied with it, but i am happy. It was much tougher
 than i anticipated it to be. I got a lot of design
 questions, asking specific details of 4xxx, 5xxx, 6xxx
 and 8xxx switches. I was asked a loto of questions
 about which equipment would be best for a given
 scenario.

 Lots of Vlans and STP. A bit of Multicast and MLS but
 surprisingly no HSRP...not even a single
 question !!!

 Phew !!  Its over for me now and i am looking forward
 to BCRAN now which is due in 2 weeks from now !!

 Thanks a lot to all of you there who helped me out !!

 Special thanks to all those who replied my panicky
 email 2 days about about LANE .there was
 no LANE in the exam though some questions had a
 mention abt 802.10.

 All the best to all of you who plan on taking this
 exam soon. If you need any more information on the
 exam, i would be glad to do that.

 Thanks again

 Regards,
 Imran.

 =
 Imran Moin
 Network Engineer
 CCNA

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Re: CCDA Monday [7:12227]

2001-07-12 Thread George Murphy CCNP, CCDA

Russ, be ready for case studies. and go over a large pool of questions to
practice
before hand. This will help on the simple and quick type questions. I used
ccxx
productions, Ciscopress and some Boson.

Russ Kreigh wrote:

 Hello all, I am taking my CCDA at the Chicago Networkers this Monday, and
was
 looking for tips on what to concentrate my last couple review days on, and
 any
 advice.

 Thanks

 -Russ




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