Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes [7:18164]

2001-09-01 Thread Tony Medeiros

I think that PAT solution is a hell of an idea Rob !!!  Simple, easy to
configure, and scalable.  You could use that source ip reverse path
checking feature on all the 7206 interfaces to stop anybody from killing
PAT on there 800's

Killer idea Rob !!
Tony M.

- Original Message -
From: Rob Fielding 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
[7:18152]


 Actually, when I mentioned bridging, I was only talking about the 827s.
 They should still have to route through the 7206 to reach each other.
But,
 bridging is just a bad idea anyway.  Instead, you could NAT the home side
of
 the 827 to the address of the 827s wan interface.  Each link between the
 7206 and the 827s is a separate routed link, but the 7206 doesn't need to
 know about the networks behind the 827s.  It only needs to know about the
 links that are directly connected.  No bridging and no statics needed, and
 if the wan links are addressed properly, then they can all be summarized
to
 the rest of the corporate network.  Since security is a concern, then I
 would suggest an access list on the 827s to only allow established
 connections inbound.

 -Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Larrieu
 To: Rob Fielding ;
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:07 PM
 Subject: RE: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
 [7:18108]


  yes - sheer numbers of devices in the shared bridging domain. we are
 talking
  500 to a thousand home users, many of whom are technically savvy folks
who
  may have reasons good or bad to connect multiple devices to the home
part
 of
  the remote access network. not to mention the fact that bridging would
 mean
  direct and unrestricted access from each of these home guys to
eachother.
 I
  can just see the little rascals Code Redding eachother! ;-
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Rob Fielding
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:58 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
  [7:18108]
 
 
  I just quickly glanced at the 827 docs on cisco.com, so please correct
me
 if
  I'm wrong about them.  According to the docs, you can configure the
827's
  for bridging or NAT.  You could avoid static routes on this edge of the
  customer's network entirely (except for defaults on the 827's).  The
7206
  would see all of the home networks as being directly connected.  NAT
  overload would probably be my first choice because the 827 could assign
  addresses to the home pc's with DHCP, so the users wouldn't have to
  configure anything, and any number of home pc's would just share the
827's
  wan interface address.  No need for statics at all.
  Does the customer have any issues about this type of config?
 
  -Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chuck Larrieu
  To:
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:38 PM
  Subject: RE: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
  [7:18038]
 
 
   There have been several good replies to my post. In addition to Tony's
   insight below, Leigh Anne and Jim both had excellent observations that
   covered issues my customer raised.
  
   The customer expressed concerns were with engineers who for any number
 of
   reasons, whether careless, inconsiderate, malicious, or as part of
their
   jobs, might bring down various segments. this is something that
 apparently
   happens with some regularity in the customer production network.
  
   there were concerns with route flapping at the core. we are in
 California,
   after all, and we still live under the threat of rolling blackouts.
plus
   many folks out here are doing their part by shutting things down at
 night,
   or when not in use. The flapping issue is bogus, as one could always
   advertise only the summaries into the core, but again, the customer
  engineer
   would not hear of it.
  
   the customer deliberately turns off CDP. I did not discuss this with
 him,
   but I suspect there is a bit of concern with revealing information
that
  CDP
   transmits.
  
   my point in bringing up this situation was in part to stimulate
thought
   about using various forms of routing as one means of enforcing policy.
   Static routing is not necessarily a bad thing. On the other hand,
there
  are
   other ways to deal with the stated concerns other than massive static
   routing.
  
   enjoyed the comments. thanks, everyone.
  
   Chuck
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Tony Medeiros
   Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:23 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
   [7:17826]
  
  
   I'll bite:
   PROS:
  
   1) If DSL user decides to change his network for some reason and it
  overlaps
   another on somewhere, dynamic routing will hose 

Re: what is needed for an ISDN LAB ?? [7:18141]

2001-09-01 Thread EA Louie

Two BRI lines should do you fine for testing ISDN in your lab

Read through the documentation on the TAC pages for useful ISDN
configuration and troubleshooting information

- Original Message -
From: Jaspreet Bhatia 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:06 PM
Subject: what is needed for an ISDN LAB ?? [7:18141]


 Guys,
   I am trying to setup an ISDN lab and do not have access to
 an ISDN switch . What I do have is two BRI lines each with a SPID . Will
 that be sufficient or so I need anything else ? Thanks

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Re: IGNORE this very rude person......Was: Re: CCIE Lab exam - [7:18166]

2001-09-01 Thread nrf

The guy's not just an a**-hole, he's a coward too.  Mr. Johnson, I know
you're reading this message, and you know what I'm talking about.




George Murphy CCNP, CCDP  wrote in message
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 Life's too short to be mean ;-)   

 nrf wrote:

 That guy is just a regular a**-hole.  He likes flaming people for fun.
 
 
 
 
 
 Tony Medeiros  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
 I think everybody should just IGNORE this Donald B Johnson jr
character.
 All his posts today are just dripping with disdain and sarcasium.  He is
 posting just to stir the pot and piss people off.
 
 Mr. Johnson,  Please try and be a little nicer sir.
 
 Tony M.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jason
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:26 PM
 Subject: Re: CCIE Lab exam - booked twice [7:17310]
 
 
 Just wondering, are you born this rude or do you have to be trained ?
 
 All the guy did was ask a question.It may be a dumb question, but
 
 only
 
 a
 
 question.
 
 Donald B Johnson jr  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
 Oh I see maybe they could roll out a red carpet as you stroll up. No
 
 better
 
 yet I could throw rose petal since I aint busy anymore cause you
 
 double
 
 booked and I gotta wait for the really good guys to keep going through
 
 until
 
 they pass. Then you say you would cancel the second one if you failed,
 
 I
 
 think you meant pass. If this is your thought process you may want to
 
 add
 
 a
 
 third date.
 You may try pirating that Transcender test for a test brain too.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rashid Lohiya
 To:
 Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:49 AM
 Subject: CCIE Lab exam - booked twice [7:17310]
 
 
 Guys,
 
 Does anyone know whether one person can book the lab twice?
 
 ie. 1 for April, 1 for June, thus allowing him to cancel and get a
 
 refund
 
 on
 
 the second one if the first is failed.
 
 In this way, the year long wait would not need to be endured if I
 
 was
 
 to
 
 fail the first time around.
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 020 8509 2990
 07785 362626
 www.pioneer-computers.com
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Re: Difficulty - CCIE written or CCNP [7:16504]

2001-09-01 Thread James Harris

Thanks. I've started the CCNP route now so will finish that
before trying to move on. I took the BCMSN exam first. This was
hard to study for (esp. multicast) but easier to pass than
expected.
- Jim

Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
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 do not underestimate the CCIE written. the one I saw had a lot
of things
 that can fool the unwary, unsuspecting, and unprepared.

 It was tougher than any of the CCNP tests I took. It was
similar in many
 respects to about half the things I saw on the CID test.

 on the other hand, the CCIE written was not nearly so
difficult as I had
 imagined it would be. Perhaps because of the incremental
approach via the
 CCNP / CCDP route?

 best wishes to you.

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 10:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Difficulty - CCIE written or CCNP [7:16504]


 Would anyone who has taken the CCNP and the CCIE written exam
 care to advise which is the hardest? I hear the CCIE written
 exam is very basic. It certainly covers some simple topics but
 would a candidate need to know networking to CCNP level or
 higher to achieve thes pass mark? Put another way, how would
you
 compare two people, one with CCNP and not CCIE written, the
 other with the CCIE written and not CCNP?
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Re: MRTG Horizontal shape? [7:18091]

2001-09-01 Thread Dennis R

When MRTG gets nothing back from its SNMP poll, it assumes the last reported 
value; if it gets nothing back for several hours you see a horizontal line 
on the graph.

This tells you that for several hours, MRTG was not getting SNMP data back 
from the router. One possible cause is congestion on the link to that 
router; since SNMP uses UDP it is highly likely to fail just when you most 
need the data. CPU utilization on the target router is another possible 
issue. Your MRTG box itself, or its connectivity, is yet another possible 
culprit.

HTH,
doctorcisco

Silicon ... just fancy sand.



Anyone know why the MRTG shape become horizontol for several hours suddenly
even there was traffic?

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Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]

2001-09-01 Thread Frank Kim

Hi guys,
I'm using sniffer pro 3.0 on NT platform.  I am able to filter a single
host or any host.  But I cannot filter a subnet, for example,
10.10.10.0/24.  I have tried entering in all sort of combination such as:

10.10.10.*
10.10.10.*.*
10.10.10.0/24
10.10.10.0 /24
10.10.10.0/255.255.255.0
10.10.10.0 /255.255.255.0
10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0
10.10.10.any
10.10.10.
10.10.10.0



What am I missing?  Or maybe this sniffer software doesn't support a
subnet filtering?  If that's the case, then it's rediculous.  Because it
does support 'any' which is everything.

Thanks for any input.

-Frank




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Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread Cisco Lover

Hi guys,

Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
Feature not supported on Module 3.


Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for this module.

Thanks.

Console (enable) sh ver
WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38

System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2

Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807

Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
---  -- - 
1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
  Fw : 3.1.2
  Fw1: 4.2(1)
  Sw : 5.5(5)
 WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
  Fw : 3.1(1)
  Sw : 5.5(5)

   DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  Free
-- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - -
1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K  342K


Console (enable) sh flash
-#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time-- name
  1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19 
cat5000-sup3
.5-5-5.bin

2680336 bytes available (4921840 bytes used)


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Re: Question about domain control across router? [7:17781]

2001-09-01 Thread Tony Medeiros

I forgot one other thing besides a WINS server.  Is you netbios node type
set Hybrid (0x8) ???
Tony

   My webserver is connected to the e0/0 of the router, and it has a WAN
ip
   address; my windows domain controller is connected to the e0/1 of the
  router
   through switch, and it has LAN ip address. I find that I can't add it
to
  the
   domain, is it because I have to do some deployment on the router?
   Thanx.
  
   --
   --Best Regards
   Yours, Gu De
   Tel: 027-8792-3238(O)
   Network Group
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Re: Catalyst Q. [7:18036]

2001-09-01 Thread Larry Lamb

In article , Cisco Lover
 wrote:

 How we can restrict catalyst to allow telnet access to particular
 hosts??

Not sure what CatOS you're running, but look for the set ip permit
settings.  This will do what you're after.

-- 
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7200 series router [7:18173]

2001-09-01 Thread Munzir Khan

What is the best Cisco IOS version for this router, this router will be
supporting E1's, VPDN / Lease lines

please advice.


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RE: Cisco ACS [7:18084]

2001-09-01 Thread Munzir Khan

try this link and find your answr.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_soft/csacs4nt/csnt26/usergd26/index.htm

cheers.


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RE: Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]

2001-09-01 Thread Ed Seward

Unfortunately, you have to use pattern matching and enter the hex values for
the octets you are looking for.  I don't have my cheat sheet handy otherwise
I would give a specific example.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Frank Kim
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]


Hi guys,
I'm using sniffer pro 3.0 on NT platform.  I am able to filter a single
host or any host.  But I cannot filter a subnet, for example,
10.10.10.0/24.  I have tried entering in all sort of combination such as:

10.10.10.*
10.10.10.*.*
10.10.10.0/24
10.10.10.0 /24
10.10.10.0/255.255.255.0
10.10.10.0 /255.255.255.0
10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0
10.10.10.any
10.10.10.
10.10.10.0



What am I missing?  Or maybe this sniffer software doesn't support a
subnet filtering?  If that's the case, then it's rediculous.  Because it
does support 'any' which is everything.

Thanks for any input.

-Frank




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Re: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]

2001-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

on pix only
- Original Message -
From: Ednilson Rosa 
To: ; 
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]


 That's not true. I think it depends on the IOS version or the platform. I
 have two 2501 on my lab that act exactly like you say (they are using old
 IOS versions). But on some 1720, 3640 and 3660 that I changed recently, I
 didn't have to group the ACLs to the interfaces again after removing them.

 Regards,

 Ednilson Rosa

 - Original Message -
 From: 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]


 if u remove an acl u need to put
 ip access group whatever in or out again

 conduit doesnt have any suffering
 - Original Message -
 From: NP-BASS LEON
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:37 PM
 Subject: RE: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]


  DOES THE SAME PROCESS APPLY FOR EDITING STATIC AND CONDUIT STATEMENTS ON
A
  PIX CONFIGURATION.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: groupstudy, Nobody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:16 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]
 
 
  copy your access list to say notepad.  take out the offending item then
 copy
  the access list to your clipboard.  Then go onto the Cisco router say no
  access-list blah and then paste the contents of the clipboard in.  There
 is
  no other way.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: atram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 30 August 2001 13:54
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]
 
 
  Simple question that I'm obviously having a brain fart on.
 
  How to remove an entry from an ACL?
 
  Is there a specific command or technique for removing an entry.  In
 testing
  I have noticed that the no command infront of the statement will
delete
  the entire ACL.
 
  I'm sure someone can provide the answer pretty quickly.
 
  Pardon my ingnorance.  Kind of blanking out on this for some reason.
 
 
  Thanks in advance!




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OT standarts-units of measure [7:18177]

2001-09-01 Thread George Yiannibas

While cleaning up my mailbox I found an interesting article about the
evolution of standards. Disclaimer: Don't read this unless you are a total
geek like me ;-)

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is
4 feet 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.
Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in
England, and English expatriates built the US railroads.
Why did the English build them like that? Because the first rail
lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad
tramways, and that's the gauge they used.
Why did 'they' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the
tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building
wagons, which used that wheel spacing.
Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?
Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would
break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because
that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.
So who built those old rutted roads? The first long distance roads
in Europe (and England) were built by Imperial Rome for their
legions. The roads have been used ever since. And the ruts?
Roman war chariots first made the initial ruts, which everyone else had to
match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels and wagons.
Since the chariots were made for, or by Imperial Rome, they were
all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.
Thus, we have the answer to the original question.
The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives
from the original specification for an Imperial Roman war chariot.
Specifications and bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you
are handed a specification and wonder which horse's rear came up
with it, you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman war
chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of
two war-horses.
And now, the twist to the story...
There's an interesting extension to the story about railroad gauges
and horses' behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its
launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides
of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs.
Thiokol makes the SRBs at their factory at Utah. The engineers who
designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter,
but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the
launch site. The railroad line from the factory had to run through a
tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel.
The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the
railroad track is about as wide as two horses behinds.

So, the major design feature of what is arguably the
world's most advanced transportation system was determined by the
width of a Horse's ass!

George Yiannibas
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Re: 2610 Router for sale [7:17984]

2001-09-01 Thread Swapnil Jain

what price have you fixed for that

Warm Regards

Swapnil Jain
(CNE,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA)
Project Consultant
Digitec Engineers  Computech Pvt Ltd
Ph: +91-731-533455 / 268851
Fax: +91-731-435701

Terence  wrote in message
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 Hey Guys/Girls,
 I have 3 2610 Cisco routers for sale. They are in great condition. Was
 used at a client site that were replaced with 3600 series routers. Here is
 the spec's:

 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-D-M), Version 12.0(5)T1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Tue 17-Aug-99 13:11 by cmong
 Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x80859E60

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

 Router uptime is 0 minutes
 System returned to ROM by power-on
 System image file is flash:c2600-d-mz.120-5.T1.bin

 cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x202) with 26624K/6144K bytes of
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RE: 7200 series router [7:18173]

2001-09-01 Thread Chuck Larrieu

what features do you require? IP only? IS-IS? Apollo? IPSec? firewall?
Vines? IPX? Appletalk?

then you have to get something that works with the specific cards in the
box.

you may want to fool around with the Cisco public configuration tool at:

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/newConfig/config_root.pl

no login required. configure a box and see what IOS options come up. from
there make your choice.

Chuck

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Subject: 7200 series router [7:18173]


What is the best Cisco IOS version for this router, this router will be
supporting E1's, VPDN / Lease lines

please advice.




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RE: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes [7:18180]

2001-09-01 Thread Chuck Larrieu

you know something? That's an interesting idea! May I think out loud here?

core_network7200--827--home_
user
  routed NATinside_network
subinterfaces  global outside who cares
what's inside?

need an ip on the 7200 side and the 827 side - takes up two hosts of the /28
the customer is specifying...

well, let's see... there is still the matter of the home user inside
addressing. Care needs be taken because even though there is private
addressing in place, there is still the possibility of overlap with other
parts of the network. hhhmmm...

on the 7200 side, all subnets are on directly connected interfaces. run the
routing protocol of choice, and summarize the subnets into the core.
eventually there will be several hundred /28's. at 16x28 per /24, that means
a lot of /24's eventually. if the customer played their cards right, they
could advertise what? a single /20 or so? maybe even a /19?

for address conservation, the customer is insisting on ip unnumbered on the
links. I'm pondering the relative merits - does NAT'ing create more or less
work? Does it require more or fewer things to keep track of? on the other
hand, it does answer a number of the customer expressed concerns and
policies.

You know, Rob, it would be a hell of a lot easier dealing with you than with
the particular group
I am dealing with. At least you have some creativity and some understanding
of the alternatives. I'll bet the two of us could come up with a solution
that would knock their socks off. So far I've had to listen to the bogus
route flapping argument ( every time a DSL user turns off his equipment,
we'll see route flaps in our core ) the bogus default route advertisement
argument
( these guys will connect a router at home and start advertising a default
that will screw up the entire company ) ok, so we put them in their own
domain and redistribute with strict filtering. or we use On Demand Routing.
well we don't want CDP running on these routers because it's insecure OK.
I give up. well we don't understand why you have to do it this way anyway.
when we were with X company all we did was use a static default yes but X
company was an ISP and you were using a VPN with the associated overhead.
our solution is equivalent to a frame relay network, and can be treated
accordingly. and the final definitive argument, against which there is no
counter - our policy does not allow routing to remote access users

As I said someplace else, the real issue here lies somewhere above layer 7.
Hey, Howard, at what layer are ignorance and lack of clue? ;-

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: Rob Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:06 PM
To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
[7:18108]


Actually, when I mentioned bridging, I was only talking about the 827s.
They should still have to route through the 7206 to reach each other.  But,
bridging is just a bad idea anyway.  Instead, you could NAT the home side of
the 827 to the address of the 827s wan interface.  Each link between the
7206 and the 827s is a separate routed link, but the 7206 doesn't need to
know about the networks behind the 827s.  It only needs to know about the
links that are directly connected.  No bridging and no statics needed, and
if the wan links are addressed properly, then they can all be summarized to
the rest of the corporate network.  Since security is a concern, then I
would suggest an access list on the 827s to only allow established
connections inbound.

-Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996



- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: Rob Fielding ; 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
[7:18108]


 yes - sheer numbers of devices in the shared bridging domain. we are
talking
 500 to a thousand home users, many of whom are technically savvy folks who
 may have reasons good or bad to connect multiple devices to the home part
of
 the remote access network. not to mention the fact that bridging would
mean
 direct and unrestricted access from each of these home guys to eachother.
I
 can just see the little rascals Code Redding eachother! ;-

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Rob Fielding
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
 [7:18108]


 I just quickly glanced at the 827 docs on cisco.com, so please correct me
if
 I'm wrong about them.  According to the docs, you can configure the 827's
 for bridging or NAT.  You could avoid static routes on this edge of the
 customer's network entirely (except for defaults on the 827's).  The 7206
 would see all of the home networks as being directly connected.  NAT
 overload would probably be my first choice because the 827 could 

CCIP [7:18181]

2001-09-01 Thread samuel

anyone tried taking any of the CCIP exams yet?

just wondering how it is ?


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Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes [7:18182]

2001-09-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

While some of my colleagues in the cable industry differ, 
unconstrained bridging, which lets user hosts reach one another with 
no filtering, is a disaster waiting to happen.

Consider the Cisco private VLAN feature to get some control.  It may 
or may not fit the topology.

Also, I find the operators of such networks often forget Murphy's 
Law.  The network per se may be OK for routine data transfer, but 
what about infrastructure hosts such as DNS/DHCP, and ARP servers 
when present?  I often hear a lot of hand-waving about how they are 
fast machines, but I always pose one question, perhaps especially 
relevant in California.

Your serving area has an electrical blackout. All the power comes 
back on at once.  All the hosts/routers will try to ARP and DHCP 
simultaneously.  Have you considered the queueing behavior this may 
cause?  Are you protected against broadcast storms?


Actually, when I mentioned bridging, I was only talking about the 827s.
They should still have to route through the 7206 to reach each other.  But,
bridging is just a bad idea anyway.  Instead, you could NAT the home side of
the 827 to the address of the 827s wan interface.  Each link between the
7206 and the 827s is a separate routed link, but the 7206 doesn't need to
know about the networks behind the 827s.  It only needs to know about the
links that are directly connected.  No bridging and no statics needed, and
if the wan links are addressed properly, then they can all be summarized to
the rest of the corporate network.  Since security is a concern, then I
would suggest an access list on the 827s to only allow established
connections inbound.

-Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996




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Re: PPP Authentication CHAP [7:18093]

2001-09-01 Thread EL PINGU

i have been through this one .
your config is fine
just check the following

the name of the remote router has to be the username and the password the
same on both
example

local router r4
username r3 pass cisco


remote router r3
username r4 pass cisco



Gaz wrote:

 Hi,

 Can you help me plz guys been trying to get me 1601 with ISDN WIC to work
 for yonks. From debug's it looks like CHAP AUTH is failing but I don't know
 why ?!

 I have enclosed sh ver, sh run and debug dialer, debug ppp auth chap.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanx in advance.

 Sh ver

 1601#sh ver
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) 1600 Software (C1600-SY-L), Version 12.0(7)T,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc2)
 Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Mon 06-Dec-99 18:03 by phanguye
 Image text-base: 0x0803DCE8, data-base: 0x02005000

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY DEPLOYMENT
 RELEASE
  SOFTWARE (fc2)
 ROM: 1600 Software (C1600-BOOT-R), Version 11.1(7)AX, EARLY DEPLOYMENT
 RELEASE S
 OFTWARE (fc2)

 1601 uptime is 1 hour, 30 minutes
 System returned to ROM by power-on
 System image file is flash:/c1600-1207T.bin

 cisco 1601 (68360) processor (revision C) with 13824K/4608K bytes of
memory.
 Processor board ID 04909005, with hardware revision 
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 1 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
 1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
 System/IO memory with parity disabled
 2048K bytes of DRAM onboard 16384K bytes of DRAM on SIMM
 System running from FLASH
 7K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board PCMCIA flash (Read ONLY)

 Configuration register is 0x2102

 Sh run

 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 12.0
 service timestamps debug datetime msec
 service timestamps log uptime
 no service password-encryption
 service udp-small-servers
 service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname 1601
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$FgI.$bygzIO/R77k37T.qfBWhH.
 !
 username xx password 0 x
 !
 !
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 no ip domain-lookup
 !
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 isdn voice-call-failure 0
 !
 !
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 10.10.1.1 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  ip nat inside
  no ip route-cache
  no ip mroute-cache
 !
 interface Serial0
  physical-layer async
  bandwidth 64000
  ip unnumbered Ethernet0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  encapsulation ppp
  no ip route-cache
  no ip mroute-cache
  keepalive 10
  dialer in-band
  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 120
  async mode interactive
  fair-queue 64 16 0
  ppp authentication chap callin
 !
 interface BRI0
  bandwidth 64
  ip address negotiated
  no ip directed-broadcast
  ip nat outside
  encapsulation ppp
  no ip route-cache
  no ip mroute-cache
  no keepalive
  dialer idle-timeout 150
  dialer string 08451400101
  dialer-group 2
  isdn switch-type basic-net3
  ppp authentication chap
 !
 ip nat inside source list 100 interface BRI0 overload
 ip classless
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 BRI0
 no ip http server
 !
 access-list 100 permit ip 10.10.1.0 0.0.0.255 any
 access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq snmp
 access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq ntp
 access-list 101 permit ip any any
 access-list 110 deny   udp 10.10.1.0 0.0.0.255 eq netbios-ns any log
 dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 110
 dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit
 !
 line con 0
  exec-timeout 0 0
  transport input none
 line 1
  modem InOut
  transport input all
  stopbits 1
  speed 115200
  flowcontrol hardware
 line vty 0
  exec-timeout 0 0
  login local
  length 25
 line vty 1 4
  exec-timeout 0 0
   login local
 !

 1601#sh deb
 Dial on demand:
   Dial on demand events debugging is on
 PPP:
   PPP protocol negotiation debugging is on
 ISDN:
   ISDN Q931 packets debugging is on
   ISDN Q931 packets debug DSLs. (On/Off/No DSL:1/0/-)
   DSL  0 -- 1
   1 -

 1601#ping 4.1.1.1

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 4.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:

 *Mar  1 01:42:51.533: BRI0 DDR: Dialing cause ip (s=10.10.1.1, d=4.1.1.1)
 *Mar  1 01:42:51.537: BRI0 DDR: Attempting to dial 08451400101
 *Mar  1 01:42:51.549: ISDN BR0: TX -  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x04
 *Mar  1 01:42:51.553: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
 *Mar  1 01:42:51.553: Channel ID i = 0x83
 *Mar  1 01:42:51.557: Called Party Number i = 0x80, '08451400101'
 *Mar  1 01:42:51.747: ISDN BR0: RX   CONNECT_ACK pd = 8  callref = 0x04
 01:43:43: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0:2, changed state to up
 01:43:43: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface BRI0:2 is now connected to 08451400101
 *Mar  1 01:42:53.561: BR0:2 PPP: Treating connection as a callout
 *Mar  1 01:42:53.565: BR0:2 PPP: Phase is ESTABLISHING, Active Open
 *Mar  1 01:42:53.569: BR0:2 LCP: O CONFREQ [Closed] id 7 len 15
 *Mar  1 01:42:53.573: BR0:2 LCP:AuthProto CHAP (0x0305C22305)
 *Mar  1 01:42:53.577: BR0:2 LCP:MagicNumber 

RE: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes [7:18183]

2001-09-01 Thread Chuck Larrieu

One of the factors, for my customer in particular, but for all networks in
general, is the manner in which the network is expected to be used. I can't
name the name, of course, but my customer is a high tech company. It is true
that many of the remote users will be management and support types, but many
are developers and practitioners of the technology this company produces.
There may be good reason for a team of software developers, for example, to
test their applications across this network. there may be good reason for an
engineer to set something up in his office lab, then work from home, free of
the interruptions that his mere presence in the office can attract. Against
this, the company must weigh the potential damage these folks can cause,
intended or not.

this continues to be a good thread for all the high level thought and good
ideas folks have presented. I brought the subject up here because I thought
it could serve as the starting point for the excellent conversation I
continue to see.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
[7:18182]


While some of my colleagues in the cable industry differ,
unconstrained bridging, which lets user hosts reach one another with
no filtering, is a disaster waiting to happen.

Consider the Cisco private VLAN feature to get some control.  It may
or may not fit the topology.

Also, I find the operators of such networks often forget Murphy's
Law.  The network per se may be OK for routine data transfer, but
what about infrastructure hosts such as DNS/DHCP, and ARP servers
when present?  I often hear a lot of hand-waving about how they are
fast machines, but I always pose one question, perhaps especially
relevant in California.

Your serving area has an electrical blackout. All the power comes
back on at once.  All the hosts/routers will try to ARP and DHCP
simultaneously.  Have you considered the queueing behavior this may
cause?  Are you protected against broadcast storms?


Actually, when I mentioned bridging, I was only talking about the 827s.
They should still have to route through the 7206 to reach each other.  But,
bridging is just a bad idea anyway.  Instead, you could NAT the home side
of
the 827 to the address of the 827s wan interface.  Each link between the
7206 and the 827s is a separate routed link, but the 7206 doesn't need to
know about the networks behind the 827s.  It only needs to know about the
links that are directly connected.  No bridging and no statics needed, and
if the wan links are addressed properly, then they can all be summarized to
the rest of the corporate network.  Since security is a concern, then I
would suggest an access list on the 827s to only allow established
connections inbound.

-Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996




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Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread John Neiberger

Type in show port cap to see if that port is even capable of either ISL or
dot1q.  You'll probably find that it's not.  

HTH,
John

On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 04:48:29 -0400, Cisco Lover wrote:

|  Hi guys,
|  
|  Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
|  Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
|  Feature not supported on Module 3.
|  
|  
|  Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for this module.
|  
|  Thanks.
|  
|  Console (enable) sh ver
|  WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
|  Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
|  NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
|  MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
|  
|  System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
|  
|  Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
|  
|  Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
|  ---  -- - 
|  1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
|Fw : 3.1.2
|Fw1: 4.2(1)
|Sw : 5.5(5)
|   WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
|  3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
|Fw : 3.1(1)
|Sw : 5.5(5)
|  
| DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
|  Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  Free
|  -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - -
|  1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K  342K
|  
|  
|  Console (enable) sh flash
|  -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time-- name
|1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19 
|  cat5000-sup3
|  .5-5-5.bin
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RE: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]

2001-09-01 Thread Haydn Solomon

I agree.. maybe it depends on the IOS version because I don't have to
group the ACLs after removing them either.

-- Haydn



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Ednilson Rosa
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]

That's not true. I think it depends on the IOS version or the platform.
I
have two 2501 on my lab that act exactly like you say (they are using
old
IOS versions). But on some 1720, 3640 and 3660 that I changed recently,
I
didn't have to group the ACLs to the interfaces again after removing
them.

Regards,

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]


if u remove an acl u need to put
ip access group whatever in or out again

conduit doesnt have any suffering
- Original Message -
From: NP-BASS LEON
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]


 DOES THE SAME PROCESS APPLY FOR EDITING STATIC AND CONDUIT STATEMENTS
ON A
 PIX CONFIGURATION.

 -Original Message-
 From: groupstudy, Nobody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:16 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]


 copy your access list to say notepad.  take out the offending item
then
copy
 the access list to your clipboard.  Then go onto the Cisco router say
no
 access-list blah and then paste the contents of the clipboard in.
There
is
 no other way.

 -Original Message-
 From: atram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 30 August 2001 13:54
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Edit an ACL Entry [7:17854]


 Simple question that I'm obviously having a brain fart on.

 How to remove an entry from an ACL?

 Is there a specific command or technique for removing an entry.  In
testing
 I have noticed that the no command infront of the statement will
delete
 the entire ACL.

 I'm sure someone can provide the answer pretty quickly.

 Pardon my ingnorance.  Kind of blanking out on this for some reason.


 Thanks in advance!
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RE: Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]

2001-09-01 Thread Thomas Moore

I do this all the time and it's actually very easy to do.


Do a quick capture on any traffic...stop and decode. 

Create a new Capture profile by clicking on the wizard and profiles new. I
usually name these types for the subnet that I wish to sniff.

In the new profile click on data pattern and change the AND to an OR. Add a
NOT and then add pattern, I always add a NOT so that I can turn on and off
this match, since you'll want this one on click the NOT so it is just red
this will make it match.

Click on Add Pattern and click on the source address in the IP Header and
click on Set Data, it doesn't matter if this is the subnet you want or not.

Delete the fourth Octet so that you only have the Subnet octets still
showing. Keep the portions that match what you want and if one of the octets
isn't what you want change this to what you do want. You can use the Windows
calculater in scientific mode to convert from decimal to hex by typing in
the decimal and then clicking on Hex. If you only get one character like A
for 10 add a Zero in front of it in the Pattern. Change the description to
state this as the Source subnet you are sniffing.

When done click on OK...then click on the OR and add another NOT and follow
the same method but this time use the destination address in the IP header.
When all done click on OK. You will now only match addresses with the subnet
you want too capture.

Thomas Moore
CCNP, CCDP


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CID Exam Topics [7:18187]

2001-09-01 Thread Jeff Duchin

Wanted feedback from those who have recently sat this exam and what they
recommend for the following since the CID Cisco Press book doesn't really
delve into:

VPN, QOS. IP Telephony call phases, Voice over packet network design
considerations.

Thanks in advance




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Re: Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]

2001-09-01 Thread EA Louie

hey bro... I don't think there's a way to do that...I looked through the
Sniffer Pro 3.0 menus and the only way I could see it working is if you:
1.  put all 254 individual addresses in the Capture or Display filter
2.  create an address book with that subnet in it.

I could mess with it some more later, but right now that's the only solution
that I can see.

-e-

PS - where's that cigar you 'owe' me???  ;-)

- Original Message -
From: Frank Kim 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:10 AM
Subject: Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]


 Hi guys,
 I'm using sniffer pro 3.0 on NT platform.  I am able to filter a single
 host or any host.  But I cannot filter a subnet, for example,
 10.10.10.0/24.  I have tried entering in all sort of combination such as:

 10.10.10.*
 10.10.10.*.*
 10.10.10.0/24
 10.10.10.0 /24
 10.10.10.0/255.255.255.0
 10.10.10.0 /255.255.255.0
 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0
 10.10.10.any
 10.10.10.
 10.10.10.0



 What am I missing?  Or maybe this sniffer software doesn't support a
 subnet filtering?  If that's the case, then it's rediculous.  Because it
 does support 'any' which is everything.

 Thanks for any input.

 -Frank
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Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes [7:18189]

2001-09-01 Thread Rob Fielding

As far as address conservation goes, they're better off addressing the wan
links between the 7206 and the 827's as /30, and letting the 827's provide
dhcp address to the home users.  The home networks can all be the same
network (and 1000 duplicate addresses, who cares).  As far as the rest of
the network is concerned, there's only one address for each home network,
the unique nat outside address of the 827.  Using IP unnumbered on the wan
links is only going to eat up more addresses because they will have to
advertise the networks on the home side of the 827's.  They can burn up 1000
/30s or 1000 /28s.

The 827s can be build with a cookie cutter config.  The only thing that
needs to be different on each one is the wan ip address.  Nobody needs to
keep track of what addresses are in use at what house, no static address
database is needed (for these 1000 links anyway - I don't know what the rest
of their network looks like), and the home pc's could be built cooke cutter,
too.  They could save a ton of money on man hours if layer 8 wasn't in the
way.

-Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996




- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
[7:18180]


 you know something? That's an interesting idea! May I think out loud here?


core_network7200--827--home_
 user
   routed NATinside_network
 subinterfaces  global outside who cares
 what's inside?

 need an ip on the 7200 side and the 827 side - takes up two hosts of the
/28
 the customer is specifying...

 well, let's see... there is still the matter of the home user inside
 addressing. Care needs be taken because even though there is private
 addressing in place, there is still the possibility of overlap with other
 parts of the network. hhhmmm...

 on the 7200 side, all subnets are on directly connected interfaces. run
the
 routing protocol of choice, and summarize the subnets into the core.
 eventually there will be several hundred /28's. at 16x28 per /24, that
means
 a lot of /24's eventually. if the customer played their cards right, they
 could advertise what? a single /20 or so? maybe even a /19?

 for address conservation, the customer is insisting on ip unnumbered on
the
 links. I'm pondering the relative merits - does NAT'ing create more or
less
 work? Does it require more or fewer things to keep track of? on the other
 hand, it does answer a number of the customer expressed concerns and
 policies.

 You know, Rob, it would be a hell of a lot easier dealing with you than
with
 the particular group
 I am dealing with. At least you have some creativity and some
understanding
 of the alternatives. I'll bet the two of us could come up with a solution
 that would knock their socks off. So far I've had to listen to the bogus
 route flapping argument ( every time a DSL user turns off his equipment,
 we'll see route flaps in our core ) the bogus default route advertisement
 argument
 ( these guys will connect a router at home and start advertising a
default
 that will screw up the entire company ) ok, so we put them in their own
 domain and redistribute with strict filtering. or we use On Demand
Routing.
 well we don't want CDP running on these routers because it's insecure
OK.
 I give up. well we don't understand why you have to do it this way
anyway.
 when we were with X company all we did was use a static default yes but X
 company was an ISP and you were using a VPN with the associated overhead.
 our solution is equivalent to a frame relay network, and can be treated
 accordingly. and the final definitive argument, against which there is no
 counter - our policy does not allow routing to remote access users

 As I said someplace else, the real issue here lies somewhere above layer
7.
 Hey, Howard, at what layer are ignorance and lack of clue? ;-

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:06 PM
 To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
 [7:18108]


 Actually, when I mentioned bridging, I was only talking about the 827s.
 They should still have to route through the 7206 to reach each other.
But,
 bridging is just a bad idea anyway.  Instead, you could NAT the home side
of
 the 827 to the address of the 827s wan interface.  Each link between the
 7206 and the 827s is a separate routed link, but the 7206 doesn't need to
 know about the networks behind the 827s.  It only needs to know about the
 links that are directly connected.  No bridging and no statics needed, and
 if the wan links are addressed properly, then they can all be summarized
to
 the rest of the corporate network.  Since security is a concern, then I
 would suggest an access list on the 827s to only allow established
 connections inbound.

 -Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996



 

Re: Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]

2001-09-01 Thread Jeff Duchin

You could also set up the port that your sniffer is on as span destination
port on your switch. You can span by port or by vlan(s). Very effective and
fast.

Jeff

Frank Kim  wrote in message
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 Hi guys,
 I'm using sniffer pro 3.0 on NT platform.  I am able to filter a single
 host or any host.  But I cannot filter a subnet, for example,
 10.10.10.0/24.  I have tried entering in all sort of combination such as:

 10.10.10.*
 10.10.10.*.*
 10.10.10.0/24
 10.10.10.0 /24
 10.10.10.0/255.255.255.0
 10.10.10.0 /255.255.255.0
 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0
 10.10.10.any
 10.10.10.
 10.10.10.0



 What am I missing?  Or maybe this sniffer software doesn't support a
 subnet filtering?  If that's the case, then it's rediculous.  Because it
 does support 'any' which is everything.

 Thanks for any input.

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RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

I'd say not as well.  I'd say it doesn't support ISL either.  Check out the
following link:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca5000/prodlit/c5swt_ds.htm

It's a hardware thing - not a software issue.  What you wanted is a
WS-X5234.  That one does everything.

When I was searching for information on that card, I found this as well:

REISSUE: Specific WS-X5012 Line Cards Have the Potential to Short

Nasty!  Especially since so many of us buy equipment for our homes.  Mind
you, this card requires a telco connector.  I don't think many people have
purchased such cards, but still--it's not the type of thing you think of
when you buy used equipment.

Here's the link on this problem:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/770/fn12896.shtml

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 John Neiberger
 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]


 Type in show port cap to see if that port is even capable of
 either ISL or
 dot1q.  You'll probably find that it's not.

 HTH,
 John

 On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 04:48:29 -0400, Cisco Lover wrote:

 |  Hi guys,
 |
 |  Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
 |  Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
 |  Feature not supported on Module 3.
 |
 |
 |  Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for
 this module.
 |
 |  Thanks.
 |
 |  Console (enable) sh ver
 |  WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
 |  Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
 |  NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
 |  MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
 |
 |  System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
 |
 |  Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
 |
 |  Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
 |  ---  -- - 
 |  1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
 |Fw : 3.1.2
 |Fw1: 4.2(1)
 |Sw : 5.5(5)
 |   WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
 |  3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
 |Fw : 3.1(1)
 |Sw : 5.5(5)
 |
 | DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
 |  Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  Free
 |  -- --- --- --- --- --- --- -
 - -
 |  1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K
 170K  342K
 |
 |
 |  Console (enable) sh flash
 |  -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length-
 -date/time-- name
 |1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
 |  cat5000-sup3
 |  .5-5-5.bin
 |
 |  2680336 bytes available (4921840 bytes used)
 |
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Re: Don't think this is true ! Re: CCIE One-Day Lab layout [7:18193]

2001-09-01 Thread Brian H. Jones

I dont know about the PIX but the 6500s will replace the 5500s.   That you
can count on.


jc0  wrote in message
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 Guys,

 I DO NOT think this is true though. Unless someone can verify this with
 Cisco.



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  Here's the info from the grapevine on the layout for the new ONE-DAY
CCIE
  Lab:
 
  1x Cisco PIX
  1x 2600
  3x 25xx
  3x 3640
  1x 4000 (Frame router)
  1x Cat 6509
 
  This is the standard layout for all CCIE lab's except for WAN switching.
 
  Gotta wonder if people will start seeing some Pix stuff on the CCIE RS
  lab!!!
 
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RE: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes [7:18194]

2001-09-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

One of the factors, for my customer in particular, but for all networks in
general, is the manner in which the network is expected to be used. I can't
name the name, of course, but my customer is a high tech company. It is true
that many of the remote users will be management and support types, but many
are developers and practitioners of the technology this company produces.
There may be good reason for a team of software developers, for example, to
test their applications across this network. there may be good reason for an
engineer to set something up in his office lab, then work from home, free of
the interruptions that his mere presence in the office can attract. Against
this, the company must weigh the potential damage these folks can cause,
intended or not.

But that's pretty much exactly what I do, although I get into the 
corporate network via IPsec tunneling across arbitrary ISPs. When we 
need a cooperative network, we route to it to keep it isolated.  The 
argument your customer raises might apply to users in a specific 
geographical area, but would be irrelevant to mobile users.

If the principle that it may be good for developers to have 
cross-network applications, in today's market, isn't there an 
advantage for being able to do so from arbitrary applications? For 
example, the main project I work with has participants in Virginia, 
Massachusetts, North Carolina, Canada, the UK, and Sweden.  Hint: we 
aren't bridged.

Mixing test networks and production networks is rarely a good idea.


this continues to be a good thread for all the high level thought and good
ideas folks have presented. I brought the subject up here because I thought
it could serve as the starting point for the excellent conversation I
continue to see.

Chuck

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Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I have a customer who... food for thought - static routes
[7:18182]


While some of my colleagues in the cable industry differ,
unconstrained bridging, which lets user hosts reach one another with
no filtering, is a disaster waiting to happen.

Consider the Cisco private VLAN feature to get some control.  It may
or may not fit the topology.

Also, I find the operators of such networks often forget Murphy's
Law.  The network per se may be OK for routine data transfer, but
what about infrastructure hosts such as DNS/DHCP, and ARP servers
when present?  I often hear a lot of hand-waving about how they are
fast machines, but I always pose one question, perhaps especially
relevant in California.

Your serving area has an electrical blackout. All the power comes
back on at once.  All the hosts/routers will try to ARP and DHCP
simultaneously.  Have you considered the queueing behavior this may
cause?  Are you protected against broadcast storms?


Actually, when I mentioned bridging, I was only talking about the 827s.
They should still have to route through the 7206 to reach each other.  But,
bridging is just a bad idea anyway.  Instead, you could NAT the home side
of
the 827 to the address of the 827s wan interface.  Each link between the
7206 and the 827s is a separate routed link, but the 7206 doesn't need to
know about the networks behind the 827s.  It only needs to know about the
links that are directly connected.  No bridging and no statics needed, and
if the wan links are addressed properly, then they can all be summarized to
the rest of the corporate network.  Since security is a concern, then I
would suggest an access list on the 827s to only allow established
connections inbound.

-Rob Fielding  CCIE #7996




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Re: what is needed for an ISDN LAB ?? [7:18141]

2001-09-01 Thread Tom Lisa

We are using the Atlas 550 in our CCNP labs for both Frame Relay
and ISDN.  Haven't had a chance to play with it yet as our BCRAN
course won't be offered until the Spring semester.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

Brian wrote:

  On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Thomas N. wrote:

   I heard that if one has an Adtran 800, he/she can use it as the
  ISDN
   switch...

  yes, an Adtran Atlas 800 is quite awesome when it comes to simulation
  and
  testing.

  Brian

  
  
  
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  . Will
that be sufficient or so I need anything else ? Thanks
   
Jaspreet
  I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!!
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Re: Catalyst Q. [7:18036]

2001-09-01 Thread MADMAN

You can't, a catalyst is a layer 2 device.  If you have an RSM or MSFC it's
the same
as any other router.

  Dave

Cisco Lover wrote:

 Hi Guys,

 How we can restrict catalyst to allow telnet access to particular hosts??

 Thanks for the help.

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Re: Which IOS's support DSL? [7:18034]

2001-09-01 Thread MADMAN

Not sure what you mean, do you mean the new DSL WIC?  As far as configuring
ATM for DSL
there is no special IOS, we have been doing this for quite some time.

  Dave

Matthew Wilkinson wrote:

 I have been looking on Cisco's site and around the web and cannot seem to
 find out which IOS's support DSL besides 12.1(5)YB.  Are there any others?
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Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread MADMAN

You need the 5224-R for trunking support

  Dave

Cisco Lover wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
 Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
 Feature not supported on Module 3.

 Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for this module.

 Thanks.

 Console (enable) sh ver
 WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
 Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
 NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
 MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38

 System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2

 Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807

 Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
 ---  -- - 
 1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
   Fw : 3.1.2
   Fw1: 4.2(1)
   Sw : 5.5(5)
  WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
 3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
   Fw : 3.1(1)
   Sw : 5.5(5)

DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
 Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  Free
 -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - -
 1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K  342K

 Console (enable) sh flash
 -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time-- name
   1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
 cat5000-sup3
 .5-5-5.bin

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Re: Catalyst Q. [7:18036]

2001-09-01 Thread Control Program

 How we can restrict catalyst to allow telnet access to particular
 hosts??

Assuming you're trying to restrict access to the Catalyst itself, have a
look at IP permit list configuration.  See the Configuring IP Permit
List portion of the Catalyst 5000 series Software Configuration Guide for
the details.  In essence:

set ip permit 172.16.1.0 255.255.255.0 telnet
set ip permit enable telnet


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Re: Which IOS's support DSL? [7:18034]

2001-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hey anyone know any good mcse sites like groupstudy.




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Re: CID Exam Topics [7:18187]

2001-09-01 Thread Shahid Muhammad Shafi

Just passed this exam last week. No VPN,No Qos, Voip
nothing. All stuff covered in CID Cisco press book.
Only Stratacom stuff is not covered but it is more
thna enough in Robert Padjen CID book. Very poorly
worded exam and most of the questions didnt make much
sense to me. I just hung around and passed with 820.
No clue how!!By the way same situation when I sat
for CCDA where case studies didnt make much sense but
passed with 900. So just go there and take ur time and
eliminate wrong answers, dont try even to find the
right answer!!!I dont know when Cisco is going to make
it a fair exam.

my 2 cents

Shahid Shafi




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RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Is there a 5224R?  I can't find one on Cisco's site.  I did however find a
WS-X5225R and it does trunking...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MADMAN
 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]


 You need the 5224-R for trunking support

   Dave

 Cisco Lover wrote:

  Hi guys,
 
  Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
  Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
  Feature not supported on Module 3.
 
  Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for
 this module.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Console (enable) sh ver
  WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
  Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
  NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
  MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
 
  System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
 
  Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
 
  Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
  ---  -- - 
  1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
Fw : 3.1.2
Fw1: 4.2(1)
Sw : 5.5(5)
   WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
  3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
Fw : 3.1(1)
Sw : 5.5(5)
 
 DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
  Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  Free
  -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - -
  1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K  342K
 
  Console (enable) sh flash
  -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time-- name
1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
  cat5000-sup3
  .5-5-5.bin
 
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VLAN Security [7:18203]

2001-09-01 Thread Circusnuts

I'm finishing a project @ work  have an opportunity to recommend multiple
3500 series switches or VLAN configuration.  The placement of these boxes
will
be before a firewall, coming off of a BGP router (for IDS's, SwitchProbes,
DMZ, etc.,).  Can anyone think of an argument either way ???

Thanks Everyone
Phil




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RE: Catalyst Q. [7:18036]

2001-09-01 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

For any type of switch, what you can do is set the interface with the IP
address to be configured with a subnet (and VLAN if you wish) that is
strictly for the management of network switches.  You can then use the
router to control which IP addresses can be routed to that subnet.  If you
only permitted access from let's say, your PC and that of your supervisor,
use an access list to permit those addresses only.  The greater the range of
addresses that have access, the greater the risk of someone changing their
personal IP address to that of an IP address that can be routed to the
switch administration subnet.


  -- Leigh Anne

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 Hi Guys,

 How we can restrict catalyst to allow telnet access to particular hosts??

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Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread MADMAN

My mistake, I just flipped that off the top of my head, I new that the R
supported
trunking and FEC but yes it is the 5225-R that you need

  Dave

Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:

 Is there a 5224R?  I can't find one on Cisco's site.  I did however find a
 WS-X5225R and it does trunking...

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  MADMAN
  Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:33 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
 
 
  You need the 5224-R for trunking support
 
Dave
 
  Cisco Lover wrote:
 
   Hi guys,
  
   Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
   Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
   Feature not supported on Module 3.
  
   Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for
  this module.
  
   Thanks.
  
   Console (enable) sh ver
   WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
   Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
   NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
   MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
  
   System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
  
   Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
  
   Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
   ---  -- - 
   1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
 Fw : 3.1.2
 Fw1: 4.2(1)
 Sw : 5.5(5)
WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
   3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
 Fw : 3.1(1)
 Sw : 5.5(5)
  
  DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
   Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  Free
   -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - -
-
   1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K 
342K
  
   Console (enable) sh flash
   -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time--
name
 1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
   cat5000-sup3
   .5-5-5.bin
  
   2680336 bytes available (4921840 bytes used)
  
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RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread Frank B

It's probably a limitation of the module...some older modules do trunk but
will only encapsulate with isl.  There's a matrix buried somewhere in the
bowels of CCO that shows which module has what features.

Aloha, Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Leigh Anne Chisholm
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]


Is there a 5224R?  I can't find one on Cisco's site.  I did however find a
WS-X5225R and it does trunking...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MADMAN
 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]


 You need the 5224-R for trunking support

   Dave

 Cisco Lover wrote:

  Hi guys,
 
  Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
  Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
  Feature not supported on Module 3.
 
  Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for
 this module.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Console (enable) sh ver
  WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
  Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
  NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
  MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
 
  System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
 
  Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
 
  Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
  ---  -- - 
  1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
Fw : 3.1.2
Fw1: 4.2(1)
Sw : 5.5(5)
   WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
  3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
Fw : 3.1(1)
Sw : 5.5(5)
 
 DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
  Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  Free
  -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - -
  1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K  342K
 
  Console (enable) sh flash
  -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time-- name
1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
  cat5000-sup3
  .5-5-5.bin
 
  2680336 bytes available (4921840 bytes used)
 
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Re: VLAN Security [7:18203]

2001-09-01 Thread Jeff Duchin

Why a 3500? You could go with a lower end switch if you only need it for
that and save some money. A 2900 would do the job... you can span to
multiple ports as well.

Jeff

Circusnuts  wrote in message
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 I'm finishing a project @ work  have an opportunity to recommend multiple
 3500 series switches or VLAN configuration.  The placement of these boxes
 will
 be before a firewall, coming off of a BGP router (for IDS's, SwitchProbes,
 DMZ, etc.,).  Can anyone think of an argument either way ???

 Thanks Everyone
 Phil




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Re: Can you filter a subnet on a sniffer pro? [7:18168]

2001-09-01 Thread Thomas Moore

There is a way to do it...see my response just above yours :-)


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Re: PIX failover!! [7:15848]

2001-09-01 Thread Jonathan Hays

And keep in mind this Primary/Secondary business is completely separate from
which
firewall is Active and which is Standby. The Active/Standby question is the
more
important one.

MikeN wrote:

 I believe that the serial numbers will be registered as to whether it is UR
 or a failover. Both will work as stand-alone firewalls. Yes, the failover
 cable will determine which will be primary and which will be secondary.
Once
 they are configured: show failover will show you which PIX is primary and
 which is secondary.

 Thanks,
 MikeN

 Magdy H. Ibrahim  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Dear All,
 
  Sorry for the stupid question but I want to confirm it.
 
  I have to configure my PIX 515UR bundle...
  How can I know the primary unit from the secondary unit??
  Is that from the failover cable only OR there is an other thing marked
the
  unit as primary or secondary???
  Please advice me soon,,,
 
  Regards,,,
 
  Magdy




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Re: VLAN Security [7:18203]

2001-09-01 Thread Circusnuts

I don't believe your talking that much of a savings (between the 2900 
3500).  The 3500 wills scale to Gig uplink , plus the 2900's EOL's in
October.  The 3500's will also enforce QOS, although this in not a concern
in my application of the switch.

Thanks for the .02 though !!!
Phil

- Original Message -
From: Jeff Duchin 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: VLAN Security [7:18203]


 Why a 3500? You could go with a lower end switch if you only need it for
 that and save some money. A 2900 would do the job... you can span to
 multiple ports as well.

 Jeff

 Circusnuts  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I'm finishing a project @ work  have an opportunity to recommend
multiple
  3500 series switches or VLAN configuration.  The placement of these
boxes
  will
  be before a firewall, coming off of a BGP router (for IDS's,
SwitchProbes,
  DMZ, etc.,).  Can anyone think of an argument either way ???
 
  Thanks Everyone
  Phil




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Re: Catalyst Q. [7:18036]

2001-09-01 Thread Circusnuts

TACACS

- Original Message -
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: Catalyst Q. [7:18036]


 For any type of switch, what you can do is set the interface with the IP
 address to be configured with a subnet (and VLAN if you wish) that is
 strictly for the management of network switches.  You can then use the
 router to control which IP addresses can be routed to that subnet.  If you
 only permitted access from let's say, your PC and that of your supervisor,
 use an access list to permit those addresses only.  The greater the range
of
 addresses that have access, the greater the risk of someone changing their
 personal IP address to that of an IP address that can be routed to the
 switch administration subnet.


   -- Leigh Anne

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  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:21 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Catalyst Q. [7:18036]
 
 
  Hi Guys,
 
  How we can restrict catalyst to allow telnet access to particular
hosts??
 
  Thanks for the help.
 
  Cisco Lover
 
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RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread kym blair

URL is:  (watch line-wrap)

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/hardware/modules/04ether.htm

PDF FORMAT:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/hardware/modules/04ether.pdf




From: Frank B 
Reply-To: Frank B 
To: , 
CC: Leigh Anne Chisholm , 
Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:35:12 -1000

It's probably a limitation of the module...some older modules do trunk but
will only encapsulate with isl.  There's a matrix buried somewhere in the
bowels of CCO that shows which module has what features.

Aloha, Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Leigh Anne Chisholm
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]


Is there a 5224R?  I can't find one on Cisco's site.  I did however find a
WS-X5225R and it does trunking...

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  MADMAN
  Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:33 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
 
 
  You need the 5224-R for trunking support
 
Dave
 
  Cisco Lover wrote:
 
   Hi guys,
  
   Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
   Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
   Feature not supported on Module 3.
  
   Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for
  this module.
  
   Thanks.
  
   Console (enable) sh ver
   WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
   Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
   NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
   MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
  
   System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
  
   Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
  
   Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
   ---  -- - 
   1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
 Fw : 3.1.2
 Fw1: 4.2(1)
 Sw : 5.5(5)
WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
   3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
 Fw : 3.1(1)
 Sw : 5.5(5)
  
  DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
   Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  
Free
   -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - 
-
   1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K  
342K
  
   Console (enable) sh flash
   -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time-- 
name
 1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
   cat5000-sup3
   .5-5-5.bin
  
   2680336 bytes available (4921840 bytes used)
  
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RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread kym blair

Frank,

The first link I sent describes each module, but doesn't show whether it can 
handle ISL.  This link shows ISL capabitities for each module:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/ca5000.htm

Kym


From: Frank B 
Reply-To: Frank B 
To: , 
CC: Leigh Anne Chisholm , 
Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:35:12 -1000

It's probably a limitation of the module...some older modules do trunk but
will only encapsulate with isl.  There's a matrix buried somewhere in the
bowels of CCO that shows which module has what features.

Aloha, Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Leigh Anne Chisholm
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]


Is there a 5224R?  I can't find one on Cisco's site.  I did however find a
WS-X5225R and it does trunking...

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  MADMAN
  Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:33 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
 
 
  You need the 5224-R for trunking support
 
Dave
 
  Cisco Lover wrote:
 
   Hi guys,
  
   Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
   Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
   Feature not supported on Module 3.
  
   Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for
  this module.
  
   Thanks.
  
   Console (enable) sh ver
   WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
   Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
   NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
   MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
  
   System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
  
   Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
  
   Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
   ---  -- - 
   1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
 Fw : 3.1.2
 Fw1: 4.2(1)
 Sw : 5.5(5)
WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
   3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
 Fw : 3.1(1)
 Sw : 5.5(5)
  
  DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
   Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used  
Free
   -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - 
-
   1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K  
342K
  
   Console (enable) sh flash
   -#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time-- 
name
 1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
   cat5000-sup3
   .5-5-5.bin
  
   2680336 bytes available (4921840 bytes used)
  
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RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

You could have checked my first email on this subject.  It has a link that
has a nicely formatted table that compares all of the Cat 5000 modules.  It
shows the Model Number, Number of Ports, Number of Slots, Connector Type,
Broadcast Suppression, ISL, 802.IQ/P, Ether-Channel, Inline Rewrite, 802.3x
Flow Control, and WRED

 -Original Message-
 From: kym blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]


 URL is:  (watch line-wrap)

 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/hardwa
 re/modules/04ether.htm

 PDF FORMAT:

 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/hardwa
 re/modules/04ether.pdf




 From: Frank B 
 Reply-To: Frank B 
 To: , 
 CC: Leigh Anne Chisholm , 
 Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:35:12 -1000
 
 It's probably a limitation of the module...some older modules do
 trunk but
 will only encapsulate with isl.  There's a matrix buried somewhere in the
 bowels of CCO that shows which module has what features.
 
 Aloha, Frank
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Leigh Anne Chisholm
 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
 
 
 Is there a 5224R?  I can't find one on Cisco's site.  I did
 however find a
 WS-X5225R and it does trunking...
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   MADMAN
   Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:33 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]
  
  
   You need the 5224-R for trunking support
  
 Dave
  
   Cisco Lover wrote:
  
Hi guys,
   
Trying to run ISL/DOt1Q trunking on my cat5,but getting this error.
Console (enable) set trunk 3/1 on dot1q 1
Feature not supported on Module 3.
   
Is  that due to IOS???if yes ,please advice required IOS for
   this module.
   
Thanks.
   
Console (enable) sh ver
WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 5.5(5) NmpSW: 5.5(5)
Copyright (c) 1995-2000 by Cisco Systems
NMP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:42:24
MCP S/W compiled on Dec 14 2000, 17:37:38
   
System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
   
Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066546807
   
Mod Port Model  Serial #  Versions
---  -- -
 
1   0WS-X5530   012758150 Hw : 3.0
  Fw : 3.1.2
  Fw1: 4.2(1)
  Sw : 5.5(5)
 WS-F5521   011477888 Hw : 1.1
3   24   WS-X5224   011795763 Hw : 1.4
  Fw : 3.1(1)
  Sw : 5.5(5)
   
   DRAMFLASH   NVRAM
Module Total   UsedFreeTotal   UsedFreeTotal Used
 Free
-- --- --- --- --- --- --- - -
 -
1   32640K  19331K  13309K   8192K   5575K   2617K  512K  170K
 342K
   
Console (enable) sh flash
-#- ED --type-- --crc--- -seek-- nlen -length- -date/time--
 name
  1 ..  89280598  4f19f0   22  4921710 Jul 09 2001 09:41:19
cat5000-sup3
.5-5-5.bin
   
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T1 Question: What happens after the SmartJack? [7:18215]

2001-09-01 Thread James Willard

Hi gang,

Ok, this may sound like a stupid question, but as they say the only stupid
question is the one not asked. So, here it goes.

What exactly is the function of the smartjack on local-loop circuits? I
mean, I understand their function but I am a little unclear on exactly how
they fit in the scope of things. If I have a CSU/DSU which connects to the
demarc (smartjack), then it is the smartjack's job to regenerate that signal
and send it to the CO, correct? They also have the capability of being
placed in loopback. So, is there a special inband signal which the telco can
send which is picked up by just the smartjack and not the customer's CSU/DSU
which raises/drops loopback? Is there a normal smartjack -like device on the
telco side as well, or does the leased line connect directly to a CSU/DSU?

Thanks,

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Re: Subject: RE: Please Advice:Trunking problem [7:18170]

2001-09-01 Thread Paul Werner

 Is there a 5224R?  I can't find one on Cisco's site.  I did 
however find
 a
 WS-X5225R and it does trunking...

Well sort of... There is a WS-X5224 module.  It does hardly 
anything.  It will not do any type of trunking (ISL or 802.1Q), 
it will not do FEC, and it is not MLS capable.  In short, it is 
not terribly useful.  The WS-X5225R does do all of the listed 
features above and also supports 802.3X flow control and WRED.

Here's the link(watch wrap):

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca5000/prodlit/c5
swt_ds.htm

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