a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread gic tony

i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while
very good place .


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Interesting Link. [7:42814]

2002-04-29 Thread Wong Alex

Found a new virtual lab at www.littlerack.com thought I'll post it here for
all. Prices seems reasonable to me.


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Re: Spanning Tree Question [7:42806]

2002-04-29 Thread Phil Barker

Yes,
   All the switches should be running the spanning
tree protocol. Configure the server/client ports with
portfast option (if there is one).

Phil. 

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spanning tree to work, do all the switches on a
> network (let us say a
> LAN) have to support or enable Spanning Tree?  That
> is the general question.
> 
> Specifically, I have an HP Procurve connected to a
> router, and then a
> Netgear Switch that hooks into one of the ports on
> the HP.  On the Netgear
> are 3 or 4 more Netgear switches (all of there are
> simple unmanaged
> switches)and we are pretty sure there are some
> redundant loops in there -
> especially with two servers that dual NICs that are
> bound together using an
> Intel "teaming" driver.  Do I need to turn Spanning
> Tree on?  It is
> recommended?  Is it even going to work?
> 
> Thanx for any input.
> Anil Gupte
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VIC-2FXS pinout Issue [7:42816]

2002-04-29 Thread Richard Botham

All,
I am trying to get BOTH ports on a VIC-2FXS card working at the same time.
I Understand that the wrong combinations of pinout can cause the 2nd port to
be shutdown
OK so I looked at cco and have tried the following pinouts for a cable
between the phone and the VIC-2FXS ports.
1) Only pins 3 & 4
2) Only pins 2 & 5
3) All pins

So Pins 3 & 4 simply doesn't work although it's meant to be a single line
pinout
So to pins 2 & 5, pick the phone up and you get dial tone, dial a number and
it rings in the handset but not at the other phone and Oh yeah , the 2nd
port is in use
So all pins next, both phones ring and get answered, but 2nd port is
shutdown, and when you dial you can hear the ring tone BUT also the engaged
tone.

Anyone have any ideas

Regards
Richard 


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remote powerswitch [7:42817]

2002-04-29 Thread Koen Zeilstra

Hi,

Do any of you know of a cheap solution for a power switch which can be
accessed remotely?


K.

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PPP and tacacs [7:42818]

2002-04-29 Thread NetEng

I have a 2600 series that has a 16 port async card for RAS dialup. It also
has two WIC's for two T-1s that run ppp multilink. I want to enable tacacs
for ppp dialup but not for the two T-1s. Is this possible?




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Re: Questions about PIX firewall [7:24634]

2002-04-29 Thread Patrick Donlon

Hi
backing up what's already been posted, we've changed from Checkpoint on
Solaris to PIX.
For the last 6 months we have had a very stable environment with failover
implemented
too. The cli is excellent if your familiar with IOS, it doesn't have the
overhead and
terrible sluggish response of the Checkpoint GUI -try remote logging on
Checkpoints
GUI,

For most things PIX  check http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/707/#pix


cheers

Pat

dovelet wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Our company wants to use PIX 515 firewall but I never use it before. I have
> some questions and I hope someone can help me.
>
> 1. To configure a PIX, is there any GUI interface or need to use Command
> Line Interface? If it has GUI interface, is it bundle with a PIX or need to
> purchase separately?
> 2. We plan to use 2 PIX for HA solution. Is it stable?
> 3. Is there any materials to describe the PIX failover?
>
> Regards,
> Dovelet




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remote powerswitch [7:42817] -Reply [7:42820]

2002-04-29 Thread Jose A Rola

www.servertech.com

I don4t know if they are cheap, but they look good!

>>> "Koen Zeilstra"  04/29/02 01:27pm >>>
Hi,

Do any of you know of a cheap solution for a power switch which can be
accessed remotely?


K.

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we could with both of them."
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Re: NLI Study Guide [7:42812]

2002-04-29 Thread Johnny Routin

What's so great about this book that it's worth $220?  Can't this info be
found in the other CCIE written prep books that cost $60?  Or how bout two
CCIE written prep books for $120... still almost half the money you spent?

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> All,
>
> Recieved this book today, mind you I paid for it with my arm. This book
cant
> be had in Australia, express delivery and the book, set me back a nice
$220
> bucks!
>
> So far, Ive sucked in the Bridging Chapter, very condensed, nice overview
> with I believe all you need to know...
>
> Sit the exam in 2weeks, hope to really drill this book over that 2 weeks.
>
> If your doing the old written, get this book. If I believe the
explaination
> is week, I hit doyle or clarke or similar
>
> Cheers




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CCNP Exam [7:42823]

2002-04-29 Thread Kazan, Naim

Hi Guys

Can anyone tell me if the CCNP track has been changed and rolled out with
the new  beta track. I don't want to take the exam and find out it has been
replaced with a new version. Plus it would save me some money buying
material with the latest updates. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: remote powerswitch [7:42817]

2002-04-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 8:27 AM -0400 4/29/02, Koen Zeilstra wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Do any of you know of a cheap solution for a power switch which can be
>accessed remotely?
>

The cheapest of which I know is the X-10 system, which can be 
analog-controlled over a dialup. About USD $15 per controlled port 
plus about $30 for the controller.

For more sophisticated programmatic control, we use APS gear in our 
virtual racks.




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RE: NLI Study Guide [7:42812]

2002-04-29 Thread Maurizio Moroni

I think Kris meant AU dollarsor he payed *a lot* for shipping ;-)
I saw it on amazon at 74.95 US $

Maurizio





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Subject: Re: NLI Study Guide [7:42812]


What's so great about this book that it's worth $220?  Can't this info
be
found in the other CCIE written prep books that cost $60?  Or how bout
two
CCIE written prep books for $120... still almost half the money you
spent?

JR
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""Kris Keen""  wrote in message
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> All,
>
> Recieved this book today, mind you I paid for it with my arm. This
book
cant
> be had in Australia, express delivery and the book, set me back a nice
$220
> bucks!
>
> So far, Ive sucked in the Bridging Chapter, very condensed, nice
overview
> with I believe all you need to know...
>
> Sit the exam in 2weeks, hope to really drill this book over that 2
weeks.
>
> If your doing the old written, get this book. If I believe the
explaination
> is week, I hit doyle or clarke or similar
>
> Cheers




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Question about Multi-Channel T1/PRI [7:42825]

2002-04-29 Thread Stepp Harless

I have two 4 port Multi-Channel T1/PRI


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RE: Question about Multi-Channel T1/PRI [7:42825]

2002-04-29 Thread Stepp Harless

Sorry about that I did not mean to submit the last message. Here is what I
meant to send.

I have two 4 port Multi-Channel T1/PRI modules inserted in a VIPS2-40 module
and had a question about these modules. Can these ports be used for a
fractional T1 as well as a PR ISDN? I found a document on Cisco's web site
for a Multichannel DS1/PRI port adapters and it looks like the port adapters
I have are the PA-MC-4T1(=) adapters. If I am reading the document correctly
it looks like it can be used as a full T1 or fractional T1 as well as a PRI.
Am I reading this correctly the documentation is not exactly clear to me.

Thanks


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Gettlab [7:42826]

2002-04-29 Thread Jason

Anybody noticed that Gettlab seems to have problem with the timezones ? I
tried to schedule a lab for GMT+8 but cannot seems to locate the proper time
zone based on UMT..




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Re: NLI Study Guide [7:42812]

2002-04-29 Thread Johnny Routin

Ahhh... ok... damm, that is crazy shipping costs... thanks!

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""Maurizio Moroni""  wrote in message
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> I think Kris meant AU dollarsor he payed *a lot* for shipping ;-)
> I saw it on amazon at 74.95 US $
>
> Maurizio
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Routin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 29 April 2002 16:17
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: NLI Study Guide [7:42812]
>
>
> What's so great about this book that it's worth $220?  Can't this info
> be
> found in the other CCIE written prep books that cost $60?  Or how bout
> two
> CCIE written prep books for $120... still almost half the money you
> spent?
>
> JR
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>
>
>
> ""Kris Keen""  wrote in message
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> > All,
> >
> > Recieved this book today, mind you I paid for it with my arm. This
> book
> cant
> > be had in Australia, express delivery and the book, set me back a nice
> $220
> > bucks!
> >
> > So far, Ive sucked in the Bridging Chapter, very condensed, nice
> overview
> > with I believe all you need to know...
> >
> > Sit the exam in 2weeks, hope to really drill this book over that 2
> weeks.
> >
> > If your doing the old written, get this book. If I believe the
> explaination
> > is week, I hit doyle or clarke or similar
> >
> > Cheers




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Re: NLI Study Guide [7:42812]

2002-04-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Was that in Australian or US dollars? If the former, it might not be 
as dramatic a difference as it first seemed.


At 10:17 AM -0400 4/29/02, Johnny Routin wrote:
>What's so great about this book that it's worth $220?  Can't this info be
>found in the other CCIE written prep books that cost $60?  Or how bout two
>CCIE written prep books for $120... still almost half the money you spent?
>
>JR
>--
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>
>
>
>""Kris Keen""  wrote in message
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>>  All,
>>
>>  Recieved this book today, mind you I paid for it with my arm. This book
>cant
>>  be had in Australia, express delivery and the book, set me back a nice
>$220
>>  bucks!
>>
>>  So far, Ive sucked in the Bridging Chapter, very condensed, nice overview
>>  with I believe all you need to know...
>>
>>  Sit the exam in 2weeks, hope to really drill this book over that 2 weeks.
>>
>>  If your doing the old written, get this book. If I believe the
>explaination
>>  is week, I hit doyle or clarke or similar
>>
>>  Cheers




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Re: Gettlab [7:42826]

2002-04-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 11:04 AM -0400 4/29/02, Jason wrote:
>Anybody noticed that Gettlab seems to have problem with the timezones ? I
>tried to schedule a lab for GMT+8 but cannot seems to locate the proper time
>zone based on UMT..
>

Jason, I don't know why it's doing this but will find out. It seems 
to work for me in GMT+5, but anything is possible!

Did you set your time zone in the login profile? The interface 
expects you to do so, then schedules by your local time. If you put 
UMT as your local time, it should work.

Sorry for the lab-specific post here, but once something does hit 
Groupstudy, I'd rather everyone see the attempt to resolve it.  We 
aren't prefect but we try!




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Re: PPP and tacacs [7:42818]

2002-04-29 Thread Shawn Heisey

Yes - use a config like this:

!
aaa authentication ppp default none
aaa authorization network default none
aaa authentication ppp dialup group tacacs+ local
aaa authorization network dialup group tacacs+ local
aaa accounting network dialup start-stop group tacacs+ local
!
interface group-async1
 ! 
 ppp authentication ms-chap pap dialup
 ppp authorization dialup
 ppp accounting dialup
!
interface serial0/0
 ! 
 no ppp authentication
 no ppp authorization
 no ppp accounting
!


NetEng wrote:
> 
> I have a 2600 series that has a 16 port async card for RAS dialup. It also
> has two WIC's for two T-1s that run ppp multilink. I want to enable tacacs
> for ppp dialup but not for the two T-1s. Is this possible?




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Re: Gettlab [7:42826]

2002-04-29 Thread Jason

The problem occurs during the setting up of the profile.. I couldn't get
GMT+8 but other time works fine..
Let me know offline if you need more specific details or if you need me to
... Thanks.

Jason

""Howard C. Berkowitz""  wrote in message
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> At 11:04 AM -0400 4/29/02, Jason wrote:
> >Anybody noticed that Gettlab seems to have problem with the timezones ? I
> >tried to schedule a lab for GMT+8 but cannot seems to locate the proper
time
> >zone based on UMT..
> >
>
> Jason, I don't know why it's doing this but will find out. It seems
> to work for me in GMT+5, but anything is possible!
>
> Did you set your time zone in the login profile? The interface
> expects you to do so, then schedules by your local time. If you put
> UMT as your local time, it should work.
>
> Sorry for the lab-specific post here, but once something does hit
> Groupstudy, I'd rather everyone see the attempt to resolve it.  We
> aren't prefect but we try!
>
>
>
>
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Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Bray

Anyone know if you can pass 802.1q over Aironet bridges?

-mdb
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OT:FS-2501s w/12.1 and 16/8 [7:42834]

2002-04-29 Thread Scott H.

2 2501s w/12.1 and 16/8 in good working condition. Console and DTE/DCE
include. $850 obo.

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Re: Gettlab [7:42826]

2002-04-29 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>The problem occurs during the setting up of the profile.. I couldn't get
>GMT+8 but other time works fine..
>Let me know offline if you need more specific details or if you need me to
>... Thanks.
>
>Jason
>

Jason, could you send me directly an email I can use to reach you? 
Thanks. My headers just shows the groupstudy source.

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Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread Steven A. Ridder

yes
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> Anyone know if you can pass 802.1q over Aironet bridges?
>
> -mdb
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protocol-filter [7:42838]

2002-04-29 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Does anyone know if the command "protocol-filter" is avail on the IOS based
SupIII for the Cat 4k?  I know it's under the SupII Cat based OS for the 4k,
and on the IOS based sup for the 6k, but I need good confirmation on the 4K

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Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread christopher brown

yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet side of both
bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is concern it will pass
the frames out over the wireless. You will need a switch on the other end of
the bridge to recieve the frames and break out the vlans.
- Original Message -
From: "Steven A. Ridder" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]


> yes
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Re: NLI Study Guide [7:42812]

2002-04-29 Thread Kris Keen

Australian dollars with 3 day shipping (which was $35usd)


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(multiple forwarded messages) [7:42841]

2002-04-29 Thread christopher brown

>
>From: christopher brown 
>Subject: Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]
>yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet side of both
>bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is concern it will pass
>the frames out over the wireless. You will need a switch on the other end of
>the bridge to recieve the frames and break out the vlans.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steven A. Ridder" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:30 PM
>Subject: Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]
>
>
>> yes
>> ""Michael Bray""  wrote in message
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>> > -mdb
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Re: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread Tom Scott

gic tony wrote:

> i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while
> very good place .

tony, just wondering, do you have many cisco routers and switches in China?
what
models? where are they used? -- This is not a political question, only
technical
curiosity.

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RE: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread Marko Milivojevic

> yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet 
> side of both
> bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is 
> concern it will pass
> the frames out over the wireless. You will need a switch on 
> the other end of
> the bridge to recieve the frames and break out the vlans.

That would be required for ISL, but 802.1q should go with no
changes?


Marko.




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IPTT [7:42844]

2002-04-29 Thread Dave Luancing

Has anyone taken the new IPTT (IP Telephony
Troubleshooting) Exam. I see the exam is ony 55 to 65
Questions from the exam outline. I was wondering if
this is a killer?

- D.L.

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Re: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread Peter van Oene

him personally, or china in general?  you can safely assume that china has 
plenty of cisco gear.


At 05:00 PM 4/29/2002 -0400, Tom Scott wrote:
>gic tony wrote:
>
> > i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while
> > very good place .
>
>tony, just wondering, do you have many cisco routers and switches in China?
>what
>models? where are they used? -- This is not a political question, only
>technical
>curiosity.
>
>-- TT




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Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp

Marko Milivojevic wrote:

> > yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet
> > side of both
> > bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is

> That would be required for ISL, but 802.1q should go with no
> changes?

Nope, that's for 802.1Q. ISL has a 27-byte header.

Regards,

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BGP Question [7:42847]

2002-04-29 Thread Anil Gupte

If I look for BGP info on an IP using one of the Looking Glass sites
(specifically Mae-East) does the number of entries returned mean anything?
I have noticed that sometimes there are five or six entries and sometimes
only one or two.  The number of upstream connections is two.  If only one
entry exists, then is BGP broken?  For example:

BGP routing table entry for 216.91.141.0/24, version 7089796
Paths: (1 available, best #1)
  Advertised to peer-groups:
 rr-pop
  Advertised to non peer-group peers:
198.32.187.122
  6347 20068
64.241.88.17 (metric 175301) from 165.117.1.110 (165.117.1.110)
  Origin IGP, metric 4294967294, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
  Community: 2548:196 2548:229 2548:666 3706:168 6347:1002 6347:3000

To me that implies that there are no alternate routes, and so no BGP on this
route.  Also, if there are more than two routes does that mean the routes
are better connected?

What is the best resource for learning more about BGP?

Thanx,
Anil Gupte




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Re: IPTT [7:42844]

2002-04-29 Thread Steven A. Ridder

It's a killer if it's the online version!

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> Has anyone taken the new IPTT (IP Telephony
> Troubleshooting) Exam. I see the exam is ony 55 to 65
> Questions from the exam outline. I was wondering if
> this is a killer?
>
> - D.L.
>
> __
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What do I need? MC3810 , Please help [7:42849]

2002-04-29 Thread Kris Keen

Hi All,

In the process of trying to get 2 x MC3810 for VoIP/Fr/ATM.

I can get 2 of these with FXS/E&M ports, do I need it with FXO as well? We
want to connect two analogue phones to either end..

I dont undeerstand what I need, can you please explain?


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Re: What do I need? MC3810 , Please help [7:42849]

2002-04-29 Thread Johnny Routin

The fxs interface is what connects to your analog phones.  You don't need
the others for your scenario.

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""Kris Keen""  wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> In the process of trying to get 2 x MC3810 for VoIP/Fr/ATM.
>
> I can get 2 of these with FXS/E&M ports, do I need it with FXO as well? We
> want to connect two analogue phones to either end..
>
> I dont undeerstand what I need, can you please explain?




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n2n2 and pix [7:42852]

2002-04-29 Thread GEORGE

Has anyone here used filtering with the pix, particular the filtering
product n2n2?
Wanted to inquiry as far as performance.




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Re: BGP Question [7:42847]

2002-04-29 Thread Johnny Routin

The number of entries only implies the number of alternate paths available
to reach that network.  BGP will only use the best path available by
default.  In your example there is only one path available to that network.
This is not indicative of any problems with BGP, only a lack of redundancy
to that network. BGP is receiving and advertising this network just fine.

Excellent BGP books are Internet Routing Architectures by Sam Halabi and
BGP4 Command Reference by William Parkhurst.

JR
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""Anil Gupte""  wrote in message
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> If I look for BGP info on an IP using one of the Looking Glass sites
> (specifically Mae-East) does the number of entries returned mean anything?
> I have noticed that sometimes there are five or six entries and sometimes
> only one or two.  The number of upstream connections is two.  If only one
> entry exists, then is BGP broken?  For example:
>
> BGP routing table entry for 216.91.141.0/24, version 7089796
> Paths: (1 available, best #1)
>   Advertised to peer-groups:
>  rr-pop
>   Advertised to non peer-group peers:
> 198.32.187.122
>   6347 20068
> 64.241.88.17 (metric 175301) from 165.117.1.110 (165.117.1.110)
>   Origin IGP, metric 4294967294, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
>   Community: 2548:196 2548:229 2548:666 3706:168 6347:1002 6347:3000
>
> To me that implies that there are no alternate routes, and so no BGP on
this
> route.  Also, if there are more than two routes does that mean the routes
> are better connected?
>
> What is the best resource for learning more about BGP?
>
> Thanx,
> Anil Gupte




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Re: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams

(Devil's advocate)  Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco
gear)?

Mike W.

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> him personally, or china in general?  you can safely assume that china has
> plenty of cisco gear.




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Re: What do I need? MC3810 , Please help [7:42849]

2002-04-29 Thread Kris Keen

So, FXS ports is all thats required?
I believe that with the MC3810 I can simulate ATM PVC's? What interfaces are
required for this??


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ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Steven A. Ridder

What are some good ways to separate IP and IPX traffic on a LAN?

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Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread christopher brown

>- Original Message - 
>From: "Marko Milivojevic" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]
>
>
>> > yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet 
>> > side of both
>> > bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is 
>> > concern it will pass
>> > the frames out over the wireless. You will need a switch on 
>> > the other end of
>> > the bridge to recieve the frames and break out the vlans.
>> 
>> That would be required for ISL, but 802.1q should go with no
>> changes?
>> 
>> 
>> Marko.
>> 
>> An 802.1q frame size is modified with a 4 byte field that is inserted
>between the SA and the type or length field. Therefore the max frame size is
>1522. The 340 series connect to the lan @ 10BaseT therfore they could not be
>connected to a trunkport. The 350 series bridges can connect @ 10/100 BaseT
>therefore they can be connected to a Trunk Port. 802.1q can be carried over
>access and trunk links. ISL can only be carried over a trunk link. 
>The trunk port on both switches will need to be set to "nonegotiate" This is
>assuming you are connecting to a 350 series bridge.
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Re: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams

Actually, 802.1q adds four bytes, ISL encapsulation makes the frame much
larger (by 30 bytes)  I so the increase from 1518 to 1522 would make
sense for dot1q and an increase from 1518 to 1548 would be needed for ISL
(if it's even supported on the 802.11 stuff, but I can't speak on that).

Mike W.

"Marko Milivojevic"  wrote in message
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> > yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet
> > side of both
> > bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is
> > concern it will pass
> > the frames out over the wireless. You will need a switch on
> > the other end of
> > the bridge to recieve the frames and break out the vlans.
>
> That would be required for ISL, but 802.1q should go with no
> changes?




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DC Meeting - Router Roast Saturday [7:42858]

2002-04-29 Thread Bruce Evry

Hello,

I am taking a break from studying for my Lab, which is coming up
Thursday in RTP, to let everyone know that they are invited to come over
for good food and good routing this coming Saturday. If I pass the food
will be even grander than usual, so please - wish me luck!

Saturday, May 4, 2002
10 am to 4 pm
At Bruce's House
1607 Thomas Rd, Fort Washington, MD 20744

The past few times Howard Berkowitz has been kind enough not only
to attend and bring food but also to let us play on one of the GETTLABs
racks. Very cool equipment, I am using it for most of my later than the
last minute desperate studying.

Bring equipment and/or laptops as well as such snack and sodas.
There is still no charge, fees, dues and all are welcome as long as they
like talking about routing and switching.

Yours Truly - Bruce Evry

  DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE

1607 Thomas Road,
   Fort Washington, MD 20744

>From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD,
>From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD

   To the Indian Head Highway South.

Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road.

 Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road,
   Turn Right on Thomas Road.
 We are 1607 Thomas Rd,
almost all the way down the street on the left.

Look for bright signs & a long gravel driveway
 With no House visible from street!

If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us!




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Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams

How do you mean separate?  You could use a router to separate the IP /IPX
traffic (being that IP/IPX are Layer 3, only a layer 3 device would be able
to separate them)  =)

Mike W.

"Steven A. Ridder"  wrote in message
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> What are some good ways to separate IP and IPX traffic on a LAN?
>
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Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Chuck

in the old days of vlan switching, there was serious discussion of using
vlans to separate traffic by protocol. set up ports 1,3 and 5 as IP and
ports 2,4, and 6 as IPX. More importantly, put all those renegade AppleTalk
users on their own VLAN so their traffic doesn't bother people with real
work to do ( ;-> )  I don't know if there is serious talk of this any more.

Is this kinda what you had in mind?

Chuck


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>
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trouble with bridging IPX with one Ethernet and one Serial [7:42861]

2002-04-29 Thread nntp.groupstudy.com

Hi, Group,
I am having trouble to bridge IPX between Ethernet and Serial interface.  R2
in the middle is configured as transparent bridge with IPX routing disabled.
All three router running IPX RIP.  But R1 and R3 still can not exchange IPX
RIP update or IPX ping each other.  Someone suggested to configure IRB on
R3, put S0 of R3 into bridge group and configure BVI IPX network number to
be 700.  It does not make much sense to me.
When I use two ethernet interface on R2 to bridge traffic, everything works
fine.  Can someone explain what I am missing if I want to bridge between
Ethernet and Serial interfaces.

E0 net=900 --- R1---E1 net=700   E1---R2---S0S0
net=700---R3--- E1 net=800


Thanks

Ruihai




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RE: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

An ISL frame can be as big as 1518 + 30 = 1548 bytes. The original frame is 
encapsulated in a 26-byte header and a 4-byte CRC.

An 802.1Q frame can be as big as 1522 bytes. 802.1Q inserts a 4-byte header 
immediately the destination and source MAC addresses (and source-routing 
information, if present) of the frame to be transmitted, which could have 
already been 1518 bytes.

Priscilla

At 05:24 PM 4/29/02, Marko Milivojevic wrote:
> > yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet
> > side of both
> > bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is
> > concern it will pass
> > the frames out over the wireless. You will need a switch on
> > the other end of
> > the bridge to recieve the frames and break out the vlans.
>
> That would be required for ISL, but 802.1q should go with no
>changes?
>
>
>Marko.


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Re: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Equally devilish) You could try checking out the Cisco newsroom.  Quite a 
few articles there indicating that China has installed a fair bit of Cisco 
equipment.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 30/04/2002 11:25 am -


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Is this part of a business decision process?: 


(Devil's advocate)  Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of 
Cisco
gear)?

Mike W.

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> plenty of cisco gear.




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RE: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread cisco

Isn't China a nuclear power?
 
PA

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(Devil's advocate)  Why can we safely assume that (China has
plenty of Cisco
gear)?

Mike W.

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Re: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread Wow

*Welcome*


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> i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while
> very good place .




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Re: Gigabit GBIC for 3550 [7:42680]

2002-04-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Honestly, just go with the 6509.  We just ordered 4 of them and they work 
wonderfully.  Got the Layer 3 goin', the IDS module is hummin' and the 
content switching module is excellent.   All of that will 21 connections 
of Multimode.  It just makes me happy to be a security-network engineer.

Use the 3550 for testing..

Theo, 
CSS1, CCNP






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interesting question, Steve. I had been under the impression that the
software treated the stack as a single entity, thus making STP irrelevant,
but in re-reading, I see that is for management purposes.

Can't find anything in the documentation that I browsed. I'm curious 
because
this is something we have proposed to cheapskate customers on occasion - 
you
know - the ones who don't want to spring for a 6509 ;->

I am tempted to guess that on the stack ( the gig ports only ) that STP is
disabled, but I can't find documentation that verifies this suspicion.

Like your web page, by the way.

Chuck


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> switches, but dosen't that destroy STP, as it has a 7 hop max?
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> >
>
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> >
> >   Dave
> >
> > Brian Zeitz wrote:
> > >
> > > If I wanted to connect 2 Cisco 3550 switches together, would I need 
1
> > > Gigabit stacking GBIC or 2? I think I need 2 of them. I am trying to
> > > find out exactly what I need to hook together (2) 3350 (24 port) 
with
2
> > > GIG ports.  The part number im looking at is CIS-WS-X3500-XL, is 
this
> > > all I would need? Any help would be appreciated...
> > >
> > > Brian
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IPExpert Labs Feedback [7:42867]

2002-04-29 Thread Greg Jones

Anyone have any feedback on using the study labs from IPExpert?

TIA

Greg




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Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:06 PM 4/29/02, Chuck wrote:
>in the old days of vlan switching, there was serious discussion of using
>vlans to separate traffic by protocol. set up ports 1,3 and 5 as IP and
>ports 2,4, and 6 as IPX. More importantly, put all those renegade AppleTalk
>users on their own VLAN so their traffic doesn't bother people with real
>work to do ( ;-> )

AppleTalk traffic doesn't bother other people. AppleTalk devices don't 
broadcast; they multicast, and they don't do that very often. AppleTalk 
routers and servers don't ever broadcast (or multicast) service 
announcements like they do in an IPX environment. And the Chooser doesn't 
broadcast either. A Mac sends a unicast packet to a router when the user 
pulls up the Chooser. The router figures out which networks are in the zone 
and forwards the unicast. The recipient routers then multicast. And, no, 
this doesn't repeat forever at short intervals. Since Mac OX 7.0 (1989) the 
Mac has backed off on the unicasts it sends to start the process.

You knew you would push one of my buttons, didn't you? ;-)

As far as IPX traffic, it's not really that bad either, but the SAP 
broadcasts can get excessive. There are many ways to keep them contained, 
if that's what the poster had in mind. I think he better give us more info 
on what he's trying to accomplish.

Hopefully he didn't just buy into the BS that "IPX is chatty" (the same BS 
that you hear about AppleTalk. ;-) You want chatty, watch a Windows machine 
running NetBIOS and SMB boot!

Priscilla

>  I don't know if there is serious talk of this any more.
>
>Is this kinda what you had in mind?
>
>Chuck
>
>
>""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> > What are some good ways to separate IP and IPX traffic on a LAN?
> >
> > --
> >
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > Get in my head:
> > http://sar.dynu.com


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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Re: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams

And that relates to Cisco how?

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> Isn't China a nuclear power?
>
> PA




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Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams

I guess you could do a setup like that  However, anymore, virtually any
device speaking IPX will also speak IP (i.e. all of our Novell servers run
dual stacks IP and IPX as well as all PCs run both IPX and IP and all of our
networked printers do both as well) kinda silly, but that's the way most
places that run IPX are (they run both)... having said that, it would be
nearly impossible (if not impossible) to separate the IP and IPX traffic
without the use of a router since a Layer 2 switch would be useless to help
do this.

Does that sound right?  Makes good sense to me, but right now I think
anything would.  I'm outta Cisco-land for tonght... gotta stop those
dreams of troubleshooting frame and firewall problems geez

Mike W.

"Chuck"  wrote in message
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> in the old days of vlan switching, there was serious discussion of using
> vlans to separate traffic by protocol. set up ports 1,3 and 5 as IP and
> ports 2,4, and 6 as IPX. More importantly, put all those renegade
AppleTalk
> users on their own VLAN so their traffic doesn't bother people with real
> work to do ( ;-> )  I don't know if there is serious talk of this any
more.




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RE: Trunking over Aironet bridge? [7:42833]

2002-04-29 Thread Rik Guyler

I agree.  Change the MTU on the bridges.  I have a customer with 5 remote
sites connected via 802.11b and trunking across all 5 and I have to increase
the MTU.  

What I would love to see is an update to the Aironet code that supports the
actual trunking header so my bridge management interfaces could be on a
non-native VLAN.  I tend to make the native VLAN (Dot1Q) the most active
VLAN and not the default VLAN 1.  Unfortunately, in this scenario, the
bridges won't communicate in VLAN 1 as these frames will be tagged and the
bridges don't "understand" the tags.

Maybe some day...

Rik

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An ISL frame can be as big as 1518 + 30 = 1548 bytes. The original frame is 
encapsulated in a 26-byte header and a 4-byte CRC.

An 802.1Q frame can be as big as 1522 bytes. 802.1Q inserts a 4-byte header 
immediately the destination and source MAC addresses (and source-routing 
information, if present) of the frame to be transmitted, which could have 
already been 1518 bytes.

Priscilla

At 05:24 PM 4/29/02, Marko Milivojevic wrote:
> > yes, you must change the default frame size on the ethernet
> > side of both
> > bridges to 1522 (default 1518). As far as the radio is
> > concern it will pass
> > the frames out over the wireless. You will need a switch on
> > the other end of
> > the bridge to recieve the frames and break out the vlans.
>
> That would be required for ISL, but 802.1q should go with no
>changes?
>
>
>Marko.


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Re: ways to seperate IP and IPX traffic? [7:42855]

2002-04-29 Thread Michael L. Williams

"Priscilla Oppenheimer"  wrote in message
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> AppleTalk traffic doesn't bother other people. AppleTalk devices don't
> broadcast; they multicast, and they don't do that very often. AppleTalk
> routers and servers don't ever broadcast (or multicast) service
> announcements like they do in an IPX environment. And the Chooser doesn't
> broadcast either. A Mac sends a unicast packet to a router when the user
> pulls up the Chooser. The router figures out which networks are in the
zone
> and forwards the unicast. The recipient routers then multicast. And, no,
> this doesn't repeat forever at short intervals. Since Mac OX 7.0 (1989)
the
> Mac has backed off on the unicasts it sends to start the process.

Okay...at the risk of facing the wrath of Priscilla, here goes. =)

Just off the top of my head, why would multicasting be any better than
broadcasting in fact, wouldn't that be worst as broadcasts (L2 or L3)
are stopped at the router whereas multicast could traverse your entire
network, even through routers...?

You gotta give me this tho:  AppleTalk picks a layer three address at
random, then checks to see if it's in use and repeats until it finds one it
can use. How lame is that? I was digging thru my CCNA notes from 2+
years ago and read a comment I wrote saying (about it choosing an L3 addr at
random) "imagine if that were used on the internet... it could take
days/weeks to get an IP address".. =)

> You knew you would push one of my buttons, didn't you? ;-)
>
> As far as IPX traffic, it's not really that bad either, but the SAP
> broadcasts can get excessive. There are many ways to keep them contained,
> if that's what the poster had in mind. I think he better give us more info
> on what he's trying to accomplish.

I have to disagree here... IPX traffic is horrible (admittedly due to
Novell, not as a protocol itself per se. also as you pointed out, in all
fairness, a large %-age is SAP broadcasts and admittedly, the people whom I
inherited the network from didn't do squat to limit any kind of SAP
traffic).   If you pick a random switchport out of the 28000+
switchports on our network and do a sniffer capture, you'll find probably
75% of it is IPX related... and we use IP for probably 90% of our apps (and
web/internet access).  that's not acceptable. we cannot wait to get
rid of IPX altogether (which will happen when our migration from Netware to
2000 is complete).   I'm not a Microsoft zombie, by any means, and I
won't even claim that Win2K and Active Directory is any better than Novell
NDS, but getting rid of IPX is a godsend no matter if it means running
Microslop Win2K that's how much we hate dealing with IPX =)

> Hopefully he didn't just buy into the BS that "IPX is chatty" (the same BS
> that you hear about AppleTalk. ;-) You want chatty, watch a Windows
machine
> running NetBIOS and SMB boot!

Sounds like sour grapes.  LOL  (just kidding =)

Hey I've seen your website with you @ your I-SCHMAC laptop so it
doesn't surprise me to see you defending AppleSquawk...  =)

Mike W.




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Re: a good forum [7:42813]

2002-04-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Perhaps he was planning on upgrading their Nuclear research facilities 
with Cisco equipment!

:-)

Theo






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And that relates to Cisco how?

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>
> PA




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Re: What do I need? MC3810 , Please help [7:42849]

2002-04-29 Thread Johnny Routin

FXS is all you'll need for the analog phones.  You can do back to back ATM
with the T1 module's if you so choose.


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> I believe that with the MC3810 I can simulate ATM PVC's? What interfaces
are
> required for this??




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