RE: ISDN BRI. [7:56870]

2002-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks...
Yep i figured it out Thanks to www.cisco.com/tac :)) 
I tested the connectivity to a single ISDN line with 2 bri ports worked
well.. to the ISP as well I was able to browse the net and it works faster
too..

I don't have the second Line in yet.. i shall implment it and update you all

Thanks for the response,
cheers
Murali

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Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:30 PM
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Subject: Re: ISDN BRI. [7:56870]



  Yes you can do this though I don't know if you can combine 8 BRI's.  I
have done 3 before and it worked fine.  You basically asign each BRI to
a dialer pool with the "dialer pool-member x" command and under the
dialer interface these pool members are associated to the dialer
interface using the "dial pool x" command.

  Dave

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> 
> Hi..
> 
> I have a cisco 2620 with a 8 port BRI S/T interface card.. I was wondering
> if there is a way where i cud get all the interfaces to be on a mulitlink.
> as far as my understanding goes.. multilink means getting 2 channels of
the
> BRI..I am not sure if u can tie the ISDN Lines together.
> 
> Also Has anyone tried to configure this to an ISP is it possible???
> 
> Any help wud be appreciated.
> 
> rgds,
> Murali
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RE: VoIP data rates [7:56942]

2002-11-06 Thread Sebastien Venturoso
Here is a link for Voice Codec Bandwidth Calculator:

http://tools.cisco.com/Support/VBC/jsp/Codec_Calc1.jsp

(need CCO login)

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Matthew Webster wrote:
>
> Hi Priscilla,
>
> thanks for the help. I have found the chart you referred to and
> made several calculations - it appears that the bandwidth
> almost triples when you don't compress the IP, UDP and RTP
> headers.

Yes. The bandwidth requirement almost triples. (I didn't finish the
arithmetic before I hit the Post button on my previous message.)

Windows NetMeeting and other such applications might compress the IP/UDP/RTP
headers. It's an RFC that's been out for a time (RFC 2508). I don't know for
sure if they do, though. It might not be the right approach anyway. I think
compressed IP/UDP/RTP is usually implemented at the end points of slow links
and isn't meant to be used end-to-end by applications.

___

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www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

>
> Here we're pretty certain that a typical dial up modem (either
> 33.6 or 56kbps) have enough upstream bandwidth to handle these
> codecs. However, we could greatly decrease our bandwidth
> requirements if we compress the IP, UDP and RTP headers (saving
> money and bandwidth). However we're not sure if winsock or
> whatever protocol stack unencapsulation tool on a Microsoft O/S
> will be able to uncompress the IP, UDP and RTP headers. We're
> going to try to set up an experiment here as well as check out
> the Microsoft and Cisco websites, but if you know the answer,
> then that would be great.
>
> cheers,
> Matthew.
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RE: why loopback plug detected as loopback in first place? [7:56973]

2002-11-06 Thread Cable Guy
Yes, that describes the loopback plug. But, loopback isn't just a crossing 
of the wires, but a state the router is in as well. If there is a fault in 
the wiring, or csu/dsu is put in loopback mode, the router will see and 
change to "loopback mode" which you can see in show controllers. Why? What 
is in the digital signal to tell it this? Something in normal traffic 
packets, or is it keepalives, anything else? If it is just keepalives, and 
you turn them off, would normal traffic ever trigger router to see the 
loopback? I don't have a T1 to make easy rj-45 loopback, and I hesitate to 
cut open my db60 serial cables.

If someone has a t1 card, and wants to try this, here is instruction to make 
loopback plug. Do a debug and see what happens.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1915.htm#xtocid56

Step 1   Use wire cutters to cut a working RJ-45 or RJ-48 cable so that 
there are 5 inches of cable and the connector attached to it.

Step 2   Strip the wires.

Step 3   Twist the wires from pins 1 and 4 together.

Step 4   Twist the wires from pins 2 and 5 together.

Leave the rest of the wires alone.

The pins on an RJ-45/48 jack are numbered from 1 through 8. Pin 1 is the 
left-most pin when looking at the jack with the metal pins facing you.

Performing the Loopback Plug Test



Step 1   Insert the plug into the T1 port in question.

Step 2   Save your router configuration using the write memory command.

maui-nas-03#write memory
Building configuration...
[OK]

Step 3   Set the encapsulation to HDLC.

maui-nas-03#config terminal
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
maui-nas-03(config)#interface serial 0
maui-nas-03(config-if)#enc
maui-nas-03(config-if)#encapsulation HDLC
maui-nas-03(config-if)#^Z

Step 4   Use the show running-config command to check whether the interface 
has an IP address.

If the interface does not have an IP address, obtain a unique address and 
assign it to the interface with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0

maui-nas-03(config)#ip address 172.22.53.1 255.255.255.0

Step 5   Clear the interface counters using the clear counters command.

maui-nas-03#clear counters
Clear "show interface" counters on all interfaces [confirm]
maui-nas-03#

Step 6   Perform the extended ping test as described in the "Using Extended 
ping Tests" section, earlier in this chapter.




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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: why loopback plug detected as loopback in first place? 
>[7:56883]
>Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:08:10 +0100
>
>If I am not mistaken, basically in the wiring, the transmit line is crossed
>to the receive so that signals going out are looped back to the receive.




> > When you put a hardware loopback plug on a serial to test it, why does 
>the
> > router see it as a loopback? With the show int serial command, you will
>see
> > -serial up, line protocol up (loopback mode)-
> > Of course it needs to see it as loopback otherwise the router wouldn't
> > operate and allow loopback tests. But what part of the digital signals
> > specifically tell the router that what it sent out has just come back? 
>It
> > can't be the carrier detect because that could be interpreted as a 
>carrier
> > detect from any csu/dsu. Maybe a timing issue on the return signal, but
> > sounds like the keepalives are being interpreted here somehow? Someone
> > know the details of this? Help.
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Re: Problem with polling interface counters Cisco 7206vxr [7:56974]

2002-11-06 Thread Reinhold Fischer
Hi Daniel,

counters are seriously broken in 12.0.21S4. Have not seen any counter 
problems with 12.0.21S5 so far. This is on 7200 and 7500 routers here.

One bug open at cisco for this issue:

CSCin15495
Symptoms   The output counters that are associated with an interface may
remain zero, even though traffic is passed through the interface.
Conditions   The conditions under which this symptom occurs are not known at
this time.
Workaround   There is no workaround.

hth

Reinhold

On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:05:22PM +, Daniel Kekai wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am using 12.0(21)S4 on a Cisco 7206vxr with FE,T1 and DS3/ATM modules. I
> am having a problem polling the interface counters. Some counters do not
> give any value and some are 20-30% off from what I see on the router. This
> happens on all interfaces. I am also seeing big spikes in traffic data that
> I assume is due to wrapping on the 32 bit counters but I don't know how it
> is wrapping since it sees 0 data in the first place. :)
> 
> I have tried to use the 64 bit counters but those all give 0 readings.
> 
> Anyone else seen this problem? Apologies if this has been covered before
but
> it seems the search engine is not working. :(
> 
> Thanks,
> -daniel




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RIP and SAP timers [7:56975]

2002-11-06 Thread Symon Thurlow
Hi all,

Whilst studying for CIT, I have come across a practice question that I
don't understand.

If a server has RIP and SAP timers set to 8.5 minutes, which of the
following router timer values will prevent a router from removing a
server from its IPX server table.

A. 4
B. 5
C. 6
D. 7

I understand that the default IPX RIP update timer value is 60 seconds,
and the aging timer multiple is 3. So changing the router timer value to
any of the above would cause the router to drop entries consistently
wouldn't it?

Any help appreciated!

Cheers,

Symon




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RE: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread Cable Guy
>The fact that you can dial into the Internet is more proof that you can run 
>TCP/IP over the PC's serial port.

Hmm, why do people need proof of this? Maybe I should read the archives. 
Tcp/ip can be bound to anything. Build an interface that sends electrical 
signals down two thin water streams, code a driver, and you can bind tcp/ip 
to water.

Anyway, that USB pdf link site is down and I can't access it now. I see 
there are some USB network hubs. Do these work with only USB network 
machines? Hmm, these could be slip/ppp then. An entire hub of slip/ppp...I 
wonder. The ones that interface directly with rj-45 are no hope. I wonder 
even if the signal actually coming out of the USB port is slip/ppp framed, 
then converted outside, or just straight ethernet framed off before exiting 
USB port. I do see some USB network card implementations are just a plug 
into the USB port with no wires exposed, and a rj-45 plugin dongle like 
thing. I guess I need one with wires exposed to cut into them, and with 
slip/ppp.

Surely there is a serial card with boundable driver out there somewhere? 
Help.

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Re: VoIP data rates [7:56942]

2002-11-06 Thread Nigel Taylor
Sebastien,
Thanks a lot for the link!  Very cool :->

Nigel

- Original Message -
From: "Sebastien Venturoso" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:20 AM
Subject: RE: VoIP data rates [7:56942]


> Here is a link for Voice Codec Bandwidth Calculator:
>
> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/VBC/jsp/Codec_Calc1.jsp
>
> (need CCO login)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 06:24
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: VoIP data rates [7:56942]
>
>
> Matthew Webster wrote:
> >
> > Hi Priscilla,
> >
> > thanks for the help. I have found the chart you referred to and
> > made several calculations - it appears that the bandwidth
> > almost triples when you don't compress the IP, UDP and RTP
> > headers.
>
> Yes. The bandwidth requirement almost triples. (I didn't finish the
> arithmetic before I hit the Post button on my previous message.)
>
> Windows NetMeeting and other such applications might compress the
IP/UDP/RTP
> headers. It's an RFC that's been out for a time (RFC 2508). I don't know
for
> sure if they do, though. It might not be the right approach anyway. I
think
> compressed IP/UDP/RTP is usually implemented at the end points of slow
links
> and isn't meant to be used end-to-end by applications.
>
> ___
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
> www.priscilla.com
>
> >
> > Here we're pretty certain that a typical dial up modem (either
> > 33.6 or 56kbps) have enough upstream bandwidth to handle these
> > codecs. However, we could greatly decrease our bandwidth
> > requirements if we compress the IP, UDP and RTP headers (saving
> > money and bandwidth). However we're not sure if winsock or
> > whatever protocol stack unencapsulation tool on a Microsoft O/S
> > will be able to uncompress the IP, UDP and RTP headers. We're
> > going to try to set up an experiment here as well as check out
> > the Microsoft and Cisco websites, but if you know the answer,
> > then that would be great.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Matthew.
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RE: why loopback plug detected as loopback in first pl [7:56883]

2002-11-06 Thread Mariusz Trojanowski
Cable Guy wrote:
> 
> When you put a hardware loopback plug on a serial to test it,
> why does the
> router see it as a loopback? With the show int serial command,
> you will see
> -serial up, line protocol up (loopback mode)-
It's magic - seriously.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/debug_ppp_negotiation.html says:

MagicNumber:
  Magic Number support is available on all serial interfaces. When using
PPP, PPP always attempts to negotiate for Magic Numbers, which are used to
detect looped-back networks. A random string is sent across the link and if
the same value is returned, then the router determines that the link is
looped back.

  The link might or might not be taken down upon looped-back detection,
depending on the use of the down-when-looped command.

Mariusz

BTW - does anyone know, how to post to this group via News? I tried twice,
with no result. Do I have to give my correct e-mail in From: post headers,
or is it enough if Reply-to: field is set correctly?


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OT: WIC-1DSU T1 card fs [7:56979]

2002-11-06 Thread Symon Thurlow
Hi guys,

Part of a router I bought from the US (I am in the UK) included a
WIC1-DSU T1 card, which is useless in the UK.

I am keen to sell/swap it, pls contact me offline if interesetd.

Thx

Symon




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Re: Study group:UK [7:56900]

2002-11-06 Thread Zahid Hassan
Hi Nathan,

Good to hear about your idea.

I  would also be interested to share experiences or maybe do lab practices
together.


Zahid



""Greg Nathan""  wrote in message
news:200211051428.OAA16196@;groupstudy.com...
Hi
Anyone in London, UK want to form a study group where we can bounce around a
few ideas and lab practise strategies? I have a fully kitted lab with 7
routers with voice, 2 switches, ISDN simulator etc. I am based in London,
would prefer something a little less virtual if possible.
Lemme know.




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OT: Looking for Study partner in Amsterdam, The Netherlands [7:56982]

2002-11-06 Thread Lesly Verdier
Amstelveen, The Netherlands, Wednesday 6 November 2002

Hi All,

I'm studying for CCNP and I want "do" the CCIE as well ;-) and I 
would like to meet, preferably, a really nice, smart and gorgeous 
lady (but a nice, smart guy will do as well) to study together. I 
have a lot of study material, some equipment (it would be nice if 
you have a couple of Cat 3550s), and tons of motivation. I'm 
determined to study hard and to become a real (paper) expert. 

Contact me if you're interested: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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FW: RIP and SAP timers [7:56975]

2002-11-06 Thread Govender, Pooven, BMG-ZA
-Original Message-
From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:sthurlow@;webvein.com]
Sent: 06 November 2002 10:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RIP and SAP timers [7:56975]


Hi all,

Whilst studying for CIT, I have come across a practice question that I
don't understand.

If a server has RIP and SAP timers set to 8.5 minutes, which of the
following router timer values will prevent a router from removing a
server from its IPX server table.

A. 4
B. 5
C. 6
D. 7

I understand that the default IPX RIP update timer value is 60 seconds,
and the aging timer multiple is 3. So changing the router timer value to
any of the above would cause the router to drop entries consistently
wouldn't it?

Any help appreciated!

Cheers,

Symon




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Re: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky
Am I being thick or something, isn't this what Windows dial-up
networking is for? or *NIX pppd?  Alternatively, what about some pre-MS
stack for Windows or DOS ?8^)
rgds
Marc TXK

Cable Guy wrote:
> 
> >The fact that you can dial into the Internet is more proof that you can
run
> >TCP/IP over the PC's serial port.
> 
> Hmm, why do people need proof of this? Maybe I should read the archives.
> Tcp/ip can be bound to anything. Build an interface that sends electrical
> signals down two thin water streams, code a driver, and you can bind tcp/ip
> to water.
> 
> Anyway, that USB pdf link site is down and I can't access it now. I see
> there are some USB network hubs. Do these work with only USB network
> machines? Hmm, these could be slip/ppp then. An entire hub of slip/ppp...I
> wonder. The ones that interface directly with rj-45 are no hope. I wonder
> even if the signal actually coming out of the USB port is slip/ppp framed,
> then converted outside, or just straight ethernet framed off before exiting
> USB port. I do see some USB network card implementations are just a plug
> into the USB port with no wires exposed, and a rj-45 plugin dongle like
> thing. I guess I need one with wires exposed to cut into them, and with
> slip/ppp.
> 
> Surely there is a serial card with boundable driver out there somewhere?
> Help.
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help..Which switch to use. [7:56985]

2002-11-06 Thread Stuart Laubstein
I am trying to find out which cisco switch I could use that will be able to
work with our nokia IP 650's. Right now we have the two Nokias connected
with a hub-they each have one physical address going to the hub. The hub
goes to a Cisco 7200. Right now the nokias are using VPR to use a virtual ip
address that communicates with the 7200. We want to replace the hub with a
switch but when we do we lose conectivity between the nokias over the
switch. It does work when we plug them into a 6009 but we were hoping we
could use another switch. I have checked using a 3524 and a 2948 and neither
work. All I want is for a to be able to ping b and vice versa using the
physical ip's. 

thanks

stuart


 |
 |
 |
   a hubb
   |  |
   |  |   
NokiaNokia 

a=x.x.x.155
b=x.x.x.156




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Re: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Marc,

You mean something like Trumpet mate?

BTW, how do you program your video? Have you ported QNX to it yes?

Regards,

Dom Stocqueler.



   

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Ky"
   
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Am I being thick or something, isn't this what Windows dial-up
networking is for? or *NIX pppd?  Alternatively, what about some pre-MS
stack for Windows or DOS ?8^)
rgds
Marc TXK

Cable Guy wrote:
>
> >The fact that you can dial into the Internet is more proof that you can
run
> >TCP/IP over the PC's serial port.
>
> Hmm, why do people need proof of this? Maybe I should read the archives.
> Tcp/ip can be bound to anything. Build an interface that sends electrical
> signals down two thin water streams, code a driver, and you can bind
tcp/ip
> to water.
>
> Anyway, that USB pdf link site is down and I can't access it now. I see
> there are some USB network hubs. Do these work with only USB network
> machines? Hmm, these could be slip/ppp then. An entire hub of
slip/ppp...I
> wonder. The ones that interface directly with rj-45 are no hope. I wonder
> even if the signal actually coming out of the USB port is slip/ppp
framed,
> then converted outside, or just straight ethernet framed off before
exiting
> USB port. I do see some USB network card implementations are just a plug
> into the USB port with no wires exposed, and a rj-45 plugin dongle like
> thing. I guess I need one with wires exposed to cut into them, and with
> slip/ppp.
>
> Surely there is a serial card with boundable driver out there somewhere?
> Help.
>
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CiscoWorks Monitoring Center for Security [7:56987]

2002-11-06 Thread Cisco Breaker
Anyone used Monitoring center? Is it smilar to CSPM?
Does it shows like top 10 ip address, top 10 visited sites and something
like these? (You can view these from CSPM )

Anyhelp will be appreciated.

Best regards,




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Re: Defining users in CATOS. [7:56886]

2002-11-06 Thread mike greenberg
TACACS+ is the way to go.
 ciscoGo2002  wrote:Hello folks.

I would like to know if it is possible to define users
in CATOS switches, I have been looking for
information, but I didn't found anything. I know that
I can define a password to telnet and a password to
access enable mode. I would like that swithes ask for
a login and password, with different users and
password. Is Radius or TACAC+ the only way to do
this??
which are the man differences between them? which is
better???
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Re: Problem with polling interface counters Cisco 7206vxr [7:56989]

2002-11-06 Thread pauldongso
I am afraid you are hitting a bug. outgoing counters stop working for 
all interfaces. mrtg affected as well. This was seen in 12.0(21)S4

You may want to open a TAC case with cisco.

Paul

Daniel Kekai wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am using 12.0(21)S4 on a Cisco 7206vxr with FE,T1 and DS3/ATM modules. I
> am having a problem polling the interface counters. Some counters do not
> give any value and some are 20-30% off from what I see on the router. This
> happens on all interfaces. I am also seeing big spikes in traffic data that
> I assume is due to wrapping on the 32 bit counters but I don't know how it
> is wrapping since it sees 0 data in the first place. :)
> 
> I have tried to use the 64 bit counters but those all give 0 readings.
> 
> Anyone else seen this problem? Apologies if this has been covered before
but
> it seems the search engine is not working. :(
> 
> Thanks,
> -daniel




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RE: Must Know..to pass [7:56923]

2002-11-06 Thread James Gosnold
I still find all that criteria preferable to any BGP questions!


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Qos with Multicast [7:56991]

2002-11-06 Thread Juliard vidali
Hi all,

I would like to share the way I am implementing QoS in a 6509 switch to deal
with video multicast presentation.

It will be great to receive your thoughts and experience, concerning
Multicast application used and QoS solution.

The multicast application is Window Media Server and the client is the
Window Media Client. As far as I know, this server do not differentiate the
video and voice signal; it uses http and encapsulates the data in UDP packets.

The packes are classified, marked, scheduled in the TX queue for local
segments or goes to the LLQ in the MSFC for remote users

The configuration in the switch are

sh qos acl info config all

set qos acl ip video_200
--
1. dscp 44 microflow video_limit_200 ip host 10.x.x.x host 239.y.y.y

sh qos policer config microflow
QoS microflow policers:
Microflow name  Avg. rate (kbps) Burst size (kb) Exceed
action
---  ---
-
video_limit_200  200 400 drop
ACL attached

video_200


sh qos acl map config all
ACL name Type Ports
  -
video_200  IP 5/6-7

The MSFC LLQ configuration is:

sh policy-map inte atm 6/0/0.113

 ATM6/0/0.113

  service-policy output: bsa

queue stats for all priority classes:
  queue size 0, queue limit 7
  packets output 47386868, packet drops 0
  tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 0

class-map: Multimidia (match-all)
  47386866 packets, 45287045621 bytes
  5 minute offered rate 152000 bps, drop rate 0 bps
  match: ip precedence 5
  Priority: kbps 200, burst bytes 5000, b/w exceed drops: 0

class-map: class-default (match-any)
  296226397 packets, 299692153426 bytes
  5 minute offered rate 1132000 bps, drop rate 0 bps
  match: any
296226393 packets, 299692148890 bytes
5 minute rate 1132000 bps
  queue size 0, queue limit 5838
  packets output 296226390, packet drops 0
  tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 0
  random-detect:
Exp-weight-constant: 9 (1/512)
Mean queue depth: 0
Class Random   Tail   Minimum   Maximum Mark   Output
drop   drop threshold threshold  probability  packets
0  0  0  1459  2919 1/10242809944
1  0  0  1641  2919 1/1016023
2  0  0  1823  2919 1/10 4316
3  0  0  2006  2919 1/10   90
4  0  0  2188  2919 1/10 6088
5  0  0  2370  2919 1/100
6  0  0  2553  2919 1/10 2783
7  0  0  2735  2919 1/10   63
  fair-queue: per-flow queue limit 1459


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RE: Study group:UK [7:56900]

2002-11-06 Thread Tel Khan
Hi Greg, 

Great idea, i'm just out side London up the M1

Regards
Tel


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Slightly off Topic PIX [7:56994]

2002-11-06 Thread Dave Tyler
This is just a bit off topic and I have several questions about the PIX.

 We currently run a Symantec Enterprise Firewall and we are considering
moving
to a Cisco PIX 506E or 515E.  The SEF runs DNS and has the ability to listen
to a range of IP addresses on a single interface then proxy the calls.  The
question about a PIX is whether it can do the same thing?  As I read the
documentation from Cisco I did notice the SMTP redirection. Can the PIX
redirect for https and http from different different  public IP address calls
on a single interface?  Like OWA over https to one system and http traffic to
a different system?


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CCNP Support Passed [7:56995]

2002-11-06 Thread Symon Thurlow
Hi all,

Phew, 2nd time around passed support no problem. The first time I
underestimated the difficulty of the exam. Since I had
supported/installed/configured lots of Frame Relay and ISDN installs,
and a bit of switching, I thought I could breeze through it. The exam is
more in depth than day to day stuff.

That's it for CCNP yay! I am going to begin CCDA and CCDP now, I
remember reading somehwere that Priscilla's book- Top Down Network
Design was a good read for the CCDP exam, is this correct?

Cheers,

Symon




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Radware LinkProof woes [7:56996]

2002-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anybody have experience with the Radware LinkProof box?  If so, please
contact me directly. 

I have it directly connected to my Cat5K but the Cat doesn't see it

tia,
Mary




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Cisco Study Groups [7:56997]

2002-11-06 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie
Dear All,

I am curious to how the current established study groups are working out.
I would like some feedback on best practices and what doesnt as far as
having a succesful study group as we are starting one as we speak. I am sure
there are some great stories out there as well as some bad ones.

Thanks,

Kevin




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RE: CCNP Support Passed [7:56995]

2002-11-06 Thread James Gosnold
Well done Symon. Will be sitting my first CCNP exam in the next couple of
weeks.

I didn't realise Priscilla actually had her own books published on
networking? It's excellent that people like that participate on these forums.


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Re: Need help on PIX [7:56965]

2002-11-06 Thread Vamsi Krishna
Hi Simon.
 PIX cannot have 2 outside interfaces. The interfaces are defined based
on the security level and particularly outside and inside interfaces cannot
be changed. PIX is not a router and should not be used in place of router.
It can have a single default route and cannot support load balancing. You
can use a router in front of PIX to do your load balancing and connection to
both upstream ISP's.

Regards,
Vamsi
CCNP,CCDP,CSS1
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:58 AM
Subject: Need help on PIX [7:56965]


> Hi,
> I must admit that i am not an expert on PIX...but i have a question..Can
you
> have 2 outside interfaces on the PIX???
> I have a PIX with an outside interface connected to a router with a link
to
> an ISP. Can i have another outside interface ex.Outside1 which connects to
> another router with a link to another ISP??? I want to do loadbalancing to
> these 2 ISPs.
> Can i do loadbalancing using static routes???
> Can i do policy routing on the PIX??? For example...i want traffic from
some
> inside hosts to go out to one ISP and the traffic from remaining hosts to
go
> via another ISP.Is this possible???
> Would be of great help if someone could point out some documents where i
can
> get the above info.
>
> Many thanx
> Simon
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RE: Need help on PIX [7:56965]

2002-11-06 Thread Lidiya White
If you'll create another "outside" interface of security 0, those two
outside interface will never be able to talk to each other. Usually people
create another interface, like outside1, with security 5.
PIX can't load balance, can't do policy routing. PIX routes only based on
the destination, not source.
You use PIX for security - router for routing. Just connect a router to the
outside interface of the PIX and make it load balance, route based on
destination and so on..


--Lidiya White

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Hi,
I must admit that i am not an expert on PIX...but i have a question..Can you
have 2 outside interfaces on the PIX???
I have a PIX with an outside interface connected to a router with a link to
an ISP. Can i have another outside interface ex.Outside1 which connects to
another router with a link to another ISP??? I want to do loadbalancing to
these 2 ISPs.
Can i do loadbalancing using static routes???
Can i do policy routing on the PIX??? For example...i want traffic from some
inside hosts to go out to one ISP and the traffic from remaining hosts to go
via another ISP.Is this possible???
Would be of great help if someone could point out some documents where i can
get the above info.

Many thanx
Simon




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Was Re: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885] now OT [7:56999]

2002-11-06 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky
Dom,
please don't embarrass me on-list, I was pretending not to know you!  I
was actually thinking of Ice, but then I'm really old.  I don't have
time for video anyway, not now I've discovered cisco certification.
Marc


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> Hi Marc,
> 
> You mean something like Trumpet mate?
> 
> BTW, how do you program your video? Have you ported QNX to it yes?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dom Stocqueler.
> 
> 
>   "Marc Thach Xuan
> Ky"
> 
> cc:
>   Sent by: Subject: Re: build
> tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
>   06/11/2002 10:39
> AM
>   Please respond to
> "Marc
>   Thach Xuan
> Ky"
> 
> 
> 
> Am I being thick or something, isn't this what Windows dial-up
> networking is for? or *NIX pppd?  Alternatively, what about some pre-MS
> stack for Windows or DOS ?8^)
> rgds
> Marc TXK
> 
> Cable Guy wrote:
> >
> > >The fact that you can dial into the Internet is more proof that you can
> run
> > >TCP/IP over the PC's serial port.
> >
> > Hmm, why do people need proof of this? Maybe I should read the archives.
> > Tcp/ip can be bound to anything. Build an interface that sends electrical
> > signals down two thin water streams, code a driver, and you can bind
> tcp/ip
> > to water.
> >
> > Anyway, that USB pdf link site is down and I can't access it now. I see
> > there are some USB network hubs. Do these work with only USB network
> > machines? Hmm, these could be slip/ppp then. An entire hub of
> slip/ppp...I
> > wonder. The ones that interface directly with rj-45 are no hope. I wonder
> > even if the signal actually coming out of the USB port is slip/ppp
> framed,
> > then converted outside, or just straight ethernet framed off before
> exiting
> > USB port. I do see some USB network card implementations are just a plug
> > into the USB port with no wires exposed, and a rj-45 plugin dongle like
> > thing. I guess I need one with wires exposed to cut into them, and with
> > slip/ppp.
> >
> > Surely there is a serial card with boundable driver out there somewhere?
> > Help.
> >
> > _
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can 7507 support voice directly? [7:57001]

2002-11-06 Thread cer
Hi, all,

Pardon if this has been asked but archive searching did not turn up
anything.  Kind of a dumb question, but here goes.

Can a 7507 support VOIP directly? I know that you can configure it to
support voice traffic passing through it (QoS, RSVP, etc.) but can you
configure it for voice as you would a 36xx?In other words, are there VIC
cards (FXS, FXO, and E&M) for it as there are cards for the 26xx, 36xx, etc.
I searched the cisco site, but that was fruitless.

I envision a scenario where I install a FXS card into a 7507, configure
VOIP, connect my phones, and talk... nothing fancy.  Is that possible?

TIA,

Charles




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RE: Problem with polling interface counters Cisco 7206vxr [7:57000]

2002-11-06 Thread Daniel Kekai
Thanks Reinhold. Good to know I'm not goig crazy. :) Yes seems to be quite a
few counter related bugs for this code. I will be upgrading later this week.

-daniel

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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:51 AM
To: Daniel Kekai
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Subject: Re: Problem with polling interface counters Cisco 7206vxr [7:56931]


Hi Daniel,

counters are seriously broken in 12.0.21S4. Have not seen any counter 
problems with 12.0.21S5 so far. This is on 7200 and 7500 routers here.

One bug open at cisco for this issue:

CSCin15495
Symptoms   The output counters that are associated with an interface may
remain zero, even though traffic is passed through the interface.
Conditions   The conditions under which this symptom occurs are not known at
this time.
Workaround   There is no workaround.

hth

Reinhold

On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:05:22PM +, Daniel Kekai wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am using 12.0(21)S4 on a Cisco 7206vxr with FE,T1 and DS3/ATM 
> modules. I am having a problem polling the interface counters. Some 
> counters do not give any value and some are 20-30% off from what I see 
> on the router. This happens on all interfaces. I am also seeing big 
> spikes in traffic data that I assume is due to wrapping on the 32 bit 
> counters but I don't know how it is wrapping since it sees 0 data in 
> the first place. :)
> 
> I have tried to use the 64 bit counters but those all give 0 readings.
> 
> Anyone else seen this problem? Apologies if this has been covered 
> before but it seems the search engine is not working. :(
> 
> Thanks,
> -daniel




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RE: Way Off Topic - VOTE [7:56758]

2002-11-06 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
We Americans don't get the day off for our "horse race" either... ;)

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Ah, but only the Melburnians get the holiday - the rest of us just find
radios or TVs at work...

JMcL

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> That always makes me laugh, having a day off to watch a horse race :)
> 
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> Subject: Way Off Topic - VOTE [7:56758]
> 
> 
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> > For those United States residents, Tuesday is election day.
> No
> > politics here. No flames here. You have a right and a
> privilege that
> > is rare in
> > today's world. Please take the appropriate amount of time to get to 
> > your polling place and exercise the right that many have fought and
> > died for.
> > Your vote DOES count.
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > www.chuckslongroad.info
> > 
> > 
> And for the Aussies, Tuesday is Melbourne Cup day ;-)  Enjoy the chook
> and champers.  I know which of the two races (US and Oz) I'll be
> watching...
> 
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Re: can 7507 support voice directly? [7:57001]

2002-11-06 Thread Pollere, Joseph
Charles,

The 7500 does not support analog voice. You would need to use a digital 
voice port adapter (PA-VXA-1TE1-24+) with a channel bank.

Joe


At 04:37 PM 11/6/2002 +, cer wrote:
>Hi, all,
>
>Pardon if this has been asked but archive searching did not turn up
>anything.  Kind of a dumb question, but here goes.
>
>Can a 7507 support VOIP directly? I know that you can configure it to
>support voice traffic passing through it (QoS, RSVP, etc.) but can you
>configure it for voice as you would a 36xx?In other words, are there VIC
>cards (FXS, FXO, and E&M) for it as there are cards for the 26xx, 36xx, etc.
>I searched the cisco site, but that was fruitless.
>
>I envision a scenario where I install a FXS card into a 7507, configure
>VOIP, connect my phones, and talk... nothing fancy.  Is that possible?
>
>TIA,
>
>Charles




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Re: can 7507 support voice directly? [7:57001]

2002-11-06 Thread Bruce Enders
Charles,
The 7507 does not accept the Network Modules for Voice (NM-1V, NM-2V) in 
order to give you someplace to install the FXS, FXO or E&M VIC. It also 
does not currently support the HDV modules that would allow it to 
operate in the Digital Voice world. But, then on the other hand, those 
routers that can handle voice directly can't push packets in comparison 
to the 75xxs.
HTH
Bruce


cer wrote:

>Hi, all,
>
>Pardon if this has been asked but archive searching did not turn up
>anything.  Kind of a dumb question, but here goes.
>
>Can a 7507 support VOIP directly? I know that you can configure it to
>support voice traffic passing through it (QoS, RSVP, etc.) but can you
>configure it for voice as you would a 36xx?In other words, are there VIC
>cards (FXS, FXO, and E&M) for it as there are cards for the 26xx, 36xx, etc.
>I searched the cisco site, but that was fruitless.
>
>I envision a scenario where I install a FXS card into a 7507, configure
>VOIP, connect my phones, and talk... nothing fancy.  Is that possible?
>
>TIA,
>
>Charles
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Re: can 7507 support voice directly? [7:57001]

2002-11-06 Thread MADMAN
Yes with the correct PA's though I don't know of any FXS/FXO PA,
pretty darned expensive voice ports

  Dave

cer wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Pardon if this has been asked but archive searching did not turn up
> anything.  Kind of a dumb question, but here goes.
> 
> Can a 7507 support VOIP directly? I know that you can configure it to
> support voice traffic passing through it (QoS, RSVP, etc.) but can you
> configure it for voice as you would a 36xx?In other words, are there
VIC
> cards (FXS, FXO, and E&M) for it as there are cards for the 26xx, 36xx,
etc.
> I searched the cisco site, but that was fruitless.
> 
> I envision a scenario where I install a FXS card into a 7507, configure
> VOIP, connect my phones, and talk... nothing fancy.  Is that possible?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Charles
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What is the difference between TX WRED threshold and TX drop [7:57006]

2002-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the difference between
TX WRED threshold and
TX drop threshold

For example, with the default value:

Tx drop thresholds:
Queue #  Thresholds - percentage
---  -
180% 100%
280% 100%

Tx WRED thresholds:
Queue #  Thresholds - percentage
---  --
180% 100%
280% 100%

In the queue 1, threshold 1 start drops packets when buffer reaches 80%.

The frames that will trigger the threshold 1, queue 1 is CoS 0 1 for both
cases

Even that, after start drop, the congestion management will discard any
frames - CoS 0 1,  CoS 2 3 and so on, in the case WRED is not supported

Am I right ?

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Re: can 7507 support voice directly? [7:57001]

2002-11-06 Thread cer
Thanks, folks!  Is it any wonder that I love this group!?!

I guess in that case, my option then is to add a voice capable router to the
mix (such as a 36xx) with the appropriate cards, and then configure QoS
features on teh 7500 to ensure it reserves the necessary bandwidth (voice
router has to transit the 7500 to reach other sites).

Many, many thanks for the great and quick responses!!!

Charles


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> Charles,
>
> The 7500 does not support analog voice. You would need to use a digital
> voice port adapter (PA-VXA-1TE1-24+) with a channel bank.
>
> Joe
>
>
> At 04:37 PM 11/6/2002 +, cer wrote:
> >Hi, all,
> >
> >Pardon if this has been asked but archive searching did not turn up
> >anything.  Kind of a dumb question, but here goes.
> >
> >Can a 7507 support VOIP directly? I know that you can configure it to
> >support voice traffic passing through it (QoS, RSVP, etc.) but can you
> >configure it for voice as you would a 36xx?In other words, are there
VIC
> >cards (FXS, FXO, and E&M) for it as there are cards for the 26xx, 36xx,
etc.
> >I searched the cisco site, but that was fruitless.
> >
> >I envision a scenario where I install a FXS card into a 7507, configure
> >VOIP, connect my phones, and talk... nothing fancy.  Is that possible?
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Charles




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6509 Buffer problem - Fix [7:57009]

2002-11-06 Thread Chuck Church
6509 dude,

Sorry, don't remember the person's name who posted the original
question, but I was dealing with the same thing.  Installed 12.1.13E last
night, now I'm getting nothing but hits, even with default buffer settings.
Hope this helps.

Chuck Church
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
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6509 Flash Architecture [7:57008]

2002-11-06 Thread Azhar Teza
IIs there any link about Catalyst 6509 Flash Architecture. I am not able to
see my Flash device if I run any of the commands such as "SHOW FLASH:, SHOW
DISK0: etc). I like to see how much space has been taken by the IOS in Flash
memory, but doesn't seem to work. I am also having problems copying the IOS
and Config file to my Flash Card.  It just errors out.  I couldn't evenfind
a ciso link where the sample configs are shown about copying the contents.
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Written Exam study [7:57011]

2002-11-06 Thread ulf bye
Can anyone recommend a book that will do the job ??

Lurix


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RE: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread s vermill
Cable Guy,

Is this an academic pursuit or do you really just want to be able to log
into a router via the serial interface?  I may be misinterpreting your
entire intent, but...

I was wondering what your plans for layer 2 were?  I've configured Cisco
router serial interfaces (WIC style) for async, plugged a PC into it, hit
the carriage return, and got a prompt (requires a few additional parameters
to be configed on the async interface).  That works quite well.

Other than async, things start to get difficult.  I still haven't had time
to pursue it, but was looking into a PCMCIA card that supports HDLC a while
back (I was trying to build a WAN protocol analyzer on a laptop).

Regards,

Scott

Cable Guy wrote:
> 
> I would like to create IP connectivity from PC serial port to
> router serial
> port directly. Same as telnetting from one router serial port
> to another in
> a back to back situation, but there is of course no tcp/ip
> stack on the PC's
> serial port. The PC's network adapter install process does not
> recognize
> the built in serial ports as possible network adapters. Driver
> limitation I
> think.
> 
> Does anyone know of a 9 pin or 25 pin serial port add on card
> with a
> driver that allows a tcp/ip stack to be built on it, kind of
> like USB
> network card? Maybe USB network card is the only option. I
> haven't used one
> yet, but do they encapsulate ppp/slip coming out of the USB
> port before
> interfacing with an ethernet converter thingy?
> Thanks.
> 
> 




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Re: 6509 Flash Architecture [7:57008]

2002-11-06 Thread MADMAN
there is no flash, it's bootflash: for the internal, slot0: or disk0:
for the external.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008007f2cf.html

  Dave

Azhar Teza wrote:
> 
> IIs there any link about Catalyst 6509 Flash Architecture. I am not able to
> see my Flash device if I run any of the commands such as "SHOW FLASH:, SHOW
> DISK0: etc). I like to see how much space has been taken by the IOS in
Flash
> memory, but doesn't seem to work. I am also having problems copying the IOS
> and Config file to my Flash Card.  It just errors out.  I couldn't evenfind
> a ciso link where the sample configs are shown about copying the contents.
> Thanks,
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OT: Looking for Mac Support Engineer NYC [7:57013]

2002-11-06 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie
If anyone knows of someone who is very skilled in Macintosh OS 9/ X and
Applications please forward the resume to me. We are looking to fill this
position ASAP. I am not a recruiter this is a real position. No 3rd parties
please.

Thanks,

Kevin




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RE: Written Exam study [7:57011]

2002-11-06 Thread Carlos Aranguren
Bruno...cisco press...CCIE routing and switching exam certification guide.
Ciscopress.com
Amazon.com

Good luck 


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Can anyone recommend a book that will do the job ??

Lurix




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RE: CCNP Support Passed [7:56995]

2002-11-06 Thread Jenny McLeod
Congratulations, Symon.
Top Down Network Design is a good read, period.  It's not specifically
oriented towards the CCDx exams, but it's very useful for that anyway.

JMcL
Symon Thurlow wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Phew, 2nd time around passed support no problem. The first time
> I
> underestimated the difficulty of the exam. Since I had
> supported/installed/configured lots of Frame Relay and ISDN
> installs,
> and a bit of switching, I thought I could breeze through it.
> The exam is
> more in depth than day to day stuff.
> 
> That's it for CCNP yay! I am going to begin CCDA and CCDP now, I
> remember reading somehwere that Priscilla's book- Top Down
> Network
> Design was a good read for the CCDP exam, is this correct?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Symon
> 
> 




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Online rack Switching [7:57016]

2002-11-06 Thread Stephen Neville
Hi Group

I am going to sit the new switching exam in a couple of weeks, i am looking
for an online rack to rent aimed at the switching exam to practice a bit more
on.  I have had a look at a few web sites but was wondering if any one on the
list can point me in the direction of a good rack to rent.

Thanks

Steve




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1924 Switch [7:57017]

2002-11-06 Thread Stephen Neville
Hello Group

Can any one help me get my switch working.  Its a 1924 with 2 100tx but it
uses a null modem cable for the console port.  I have never had it working
since I have had it, it has a orange status light on the front but all the
port lights are blank.  When trying to log on to it comes up with the
following:



 Diagnostic Console  - Systems Engineering



 Operation firmware version:  0.00Status: Invalid

 Boot firmware version:  1.08







 WARNING!!! Operation Firmware is invalid.

 Upgrade firmware to enable switch operation.



 [U] Upgrade operation firmware (XMODEM)

 [S] System Debug Interface



Enter Selection:



I have down loaded cat1900A.9.00.04 file from the Cisco website and tried
uploading the image using tera terminal send file option.  It  then loads the
file and once finished it says upgrade it comes with the following message:



Erasure completed.  Waiting for new image...

System Upgrade failed.













 Diagnostic Console  - Systems Engineering



 Operation firmware version:  0.00Status: Invalid

 Boot firmware version:  1.08







 WARNING!!! Operation Firmware is invalid.

 Upgrade firmware to enable switch operation.



 [U] Upgrade operation firmware (XMODEM)

 [S] System Debug Interface



Enter Selection:



Has any one got any ideas on how to fix this problem.  I am sure I have seen
something like this posted before but at the moment I can not search through
the archives.



Thanks in advance



Steve




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Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread
Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both)


Folks

I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good
advice.

Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE
security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking
employment.

Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and
probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my
question.

Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching
qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services
exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released).

Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between
the exam materials?

Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself
back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to
afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the
same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close
together)?

I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a
3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920
(yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment
changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek
$$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for
the lab exam(s) for any of the above. 

The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
once or is this just a really foolish idea.

Thanks

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP.




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Better Way [7:57020]

2002-11-06 Thread Azhar Teza
What is the better way of designing the LAN Network with 6509s and 3500
switches.  VTP Pruning or manually clear the unnecessary VLANs from the
Trunk Links.

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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread
Hmm what a fascinating filter!!! Concatenate the word "router" and word
"ccie" with the "cc" missing if you really need to figure out where else
I posted this question :-)


> Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both)
> 

PS. Does anyone know why this list totally mangles my rfc compliant
email address whenever I send an message.




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RE: RIP and SAP timers [7:56975]

2002-11-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Symon Thurlow wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Whilst studying for CIT, I have come across a practice question
> that I
> don't understand.
> 
> If a server has RIP and SAP timers set to 8.5 minutes, 

8.5 minutes would be awfully weird! ;-)

> which of
> the
> following router timer values 

Router timer values? I guess they mean to imply that the "ipx update
interval" command was used to change the RIP or SAP update timers.

> will prevent a router from
> removing a
> server from its IPX server table.
> 
> A. 4
> B. 5
> C. 6
> D. 7
> 
> I understand that the default IPX RIP update timer value is 60
> seconds,
> and the aging timer multiple is 3. So changing the router timer
> value to
> any of the above would cause the router to drop entries
> consistently
> wouldn't it?

Yes, I agree with you. I think the question or answers are garbled. Maybe
it's a misprint. Perhaps there's a trick of some sort. Maybe the trick is
that the minimum value for the ipx update interval is 10 seconds so if you
could even enter those low values something screwy would happen.

The real questions on the CIT test won't be that bad, although people do say
they are pretty bad. I took the test quite a while ago and didn't think it
was too badly worded, though.

Good luck with it!
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> 
> Any help appreciated!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Symon
> 
> 




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread B.J. Wilson
> The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
> once or is this just a really foolish idea.

I really, really, *really* don't want this to sound as caustic as it's going
to sound, but I gotta say it anyway: dude, passing the CCIE Written is
*nothing*.  You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a
position to go for a second.  Don't put "CCIE Written" or "CCIE candidate"
on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.*  The
CCIE Written is a first step, nothing more (and a small first step at that,
in relation to the mammoth task of passing the Lab).  If you're looking for
resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go
for some of the CCIP certs instead.

(Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting "CCIE Written" on
their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing.
Hopefully I'm wrong. :-)

$0.02,

BJ




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RE: CCNP Support Passed [7:56995]

2002-11-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Symon Thurlow wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Phew, 2nd time around passed support no problem. 

Congratulations!

> The first time
> I
> underestimated the difficulty of the exam. Since I had
> supported/installed/configured lots of Frame Relay and ISDN
> installs,
> and a bit of switching, I thought I could breeze through it.
> The exam is
> more in depth than day to day stuff.

Maybe you should have used my troubleshooting book and you would have passed
the first time! ;-) It's called Troubleshooting Campus Networks, but it does
deal with both LANs and WANs and covers all the topics for the Support exam.
I was one of the CIT course developers so I have a good feel for the test.
There's more info on the book and some other troubleshooting resources here:

http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/

> 
> That's it for CCNP yay! I am going to begin CCDA and CCDP now, I
> remember reading somehwere that Priscilla's book- Top Down
> Network
> Design was a good read for the CCDP exam, is this correct?

Yes, Top-Down Network Design is good for both those tests. It's not a
certification book, but it covers the topics and much more. I think you'll
find those tests pretty easy after CCNP, although some people would
disagree. Good luck with it!

Priscilla

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Symon
> 
> 




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out-of-band management via console port [7:57026]

2002-11-06 Thread pauldongso
Hi All,

Am looking to setup out of band connection via console (not aux for some 
reason). The modem answers call fine but just has no access to the 
console(cabling is fine too). Please advise what is wrong with the config:

line con 0
  login
  passwd 
  transport preferred lat pad v120 lapb-ta telnet rlogin udptn
  databits 7
  stopbits 1
  flowcontrol hardware

Thanks

Paul




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RE: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Cable Guy wrote:
> 
> >The fact that you can dial into the Internet is more proof
> that you can run
> >TCP/IP over the PC's serial port.
> 
> Hmm, why do people need proof of this? 

Because you seemed to want to build hardware to do it!? Neither additional
hardware nor software should be necessary to do what you said in the first
line of your message: "I would like to create IP connectivity from PC serial
port to router serial port directly."

> Maybe I should read the
> archives.

Like your own message maybe. ;-) What are you trying to do??

> Tcp/ip can be bound to anything. Build an interface that sends
> electrical
> signals down two thin water streams, code a driver, and you can
> bind tcp/ip
> to water.

There was that old story about running TCP/IP on the sewer system. Gave a
whole new meaning to IP and ICMP. ;-)

> 
> Anyway, that USB pdf link site is down and I can't access it
> now. I see
> there are some USB network hubs. Do these work with only USB
> network
> machines? Hmm, these could be slip/ppp then. An entire hub of
> slip/ppp...I
> wonder. The ones that interface directly with rj-45 are no
> hope. I wonder
> even if the signal actually coming out of the USB port is
> slip/ppp framed,
> then converted outside, or just straight ethernet framed off
> before exiting

Straight Ethernet framing according to the document. I'm not sure it had
considered an entire hub of devices connected though. USB hub usually just
means a hub that lets you locally connect USB devices when you've run out of
USB ports on your machine. I guess you have in mind a hub that also connects
to the Ethernet.

> USB port. I do see some USB network card implementations are
> just a plug
> into the USB port with no wires exposed, and a rj-45 plugin
> dongle like
> thing. I guess I need one with wires exposed to cut into them,
> and with
> slip/ppp.

Why? Or maybe it's proprietary info.

> 
> Surely there is a serial card with boundable driver out there
> somewhere?

Well, Windows has figured out how to bind TCP/IP to the serial port (my
original comment), so it's doable certainly.

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RE: out-of-band management via console port [7:57026]

2002-11-06 Thread Terrific Biff
Get rid of the flowcontrol hardware and databits 7, make sure your speed is
set to 9600. If it still doesn't work then make sure your modem is
initializing with the right settings. The cisco website should have the
right settings, you just may have to modify the comands for the
initialization string depending on what kind of modem you have.


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RE: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread Cable Guy
>Because you seemed to want to build hardware to do it!? Neither additional
>hardware nor software should be necessary to do what you said in the first
>line of your message: "I would like to create IP connectivity from PC 
>serial
>port to router serial port directly."

Yes, but using Hyperterminal as you described earlier would be limited to 
hyperterminal functionality (telnet), wouldn't it? If possible, I would like 
to use serial port on PC (read, ppp encapsulation) as complete network 
adapter solution without going through modems. Open up native DOS prompt and 
ping, web access, ect... It is an academic pursuit.


> > USB port. I do see some USB network card implementations are
> > just a plug
> > into the USB port with no wires exposed, and a rj-45 plugin
> > dongle like
> > thing. I guess I need one with wires exposed to cut into them,
> > and with
> > slip/ppp.
>
>Why? Or maybe it's proprietary info.

If it is encapsulated ppp coming out the USB port with exposed wires, they 
could be cut open and spliced onto a router's serial cable. Those dongle USB 
network plugs are solid and can't be cut open most likely, and probably 
ethernet framed anyway. I think USB will be difficult. Still looking...

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RE: why loopback plug detected as loopback in firs [7:56973]

2002-11-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
In loopback, the serial port sees its own keepalives come back. They are
sequenced so it can tell. The MySeq number would be going up, but the
MineSeen number wouldn't since nobody else is seeing them. I think that's
the gist of it. There's a lot of info about this on Cisco's site. There's
one page that says something about it randomizing the sequence number so it
can be sure it's in loopback, but I can't find that now. That might be when
you put manually put it in loopback, anyway.

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Cable Guy wrote:
> 
> Yes, that describes the loopback plug. But, loopback isn't just
> a crossing
> of the wires, but a state the router is in as well. If there is
> a fault in
> the wiring, or csu/dsu is put in loopback mode, the router will
> see and
> change to "loopback mode" which you can see in show
> controllers. Why? What
> is in the digital signal to tell it this? Something in normal
> traffic
> packets, or is it keepalives, anything else? If it is just
> keepalives, and
> you turn them off, would normal traffic ever trigger router to
> see the
> loopback? I don't have a T1 to make easy rj-45 loopback, and I
> hesitate to
> cut open my db60 serial cables.
> 
> If someone has a t1 card, and wants to try this, here is
> instruction to make
> loopback plug. Do a debug and see what happens.
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1915.htm#xtocid56
> 
> Step 1   Use wire cutters to cut a working RJ-45 or RJ-48 cable
> so that
> there are 5 inches of cable and the connector attached to it.
> 
> Step 2   Strip the wires.
> 
> Step 3   Twist the wires from pins 1 and 4 together.
> 
> Step 4   Twist the wires from pins 2 and 5 together.
> 
> Leave the rest of the wires alone.
> 
> The pins on an RJ-45/48 jack are numbered from 1 through 8. Pin
> 1 is the
> left-most pin when looking at the jack with the metal pins
> facing you.
> 
> Performing the Loopback Plug Test
> 
>

> 
> Step 1   Insert the plug into the T1 port in question.
> 
> Step 2   Save your router configuration using the write memory
> command.
> 
> maui-nas-03#write memory
> Building configuration...
> [OK]
> 
> Step 3   Set the encapsulation to HDLC.
> 
> maui-nas-03#config terminal
> Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
> maui-nas-03(config)#interface serial 0
> maui-nas-03(config-if)#enc
> maui-nas-03(config-if)#encapsulation HDLC
> maui-nas-03(config-if)#^Z
> 
> Step 4   Use the show running-config command to check whether
> the interface
> has an IP address.
> 
> If the interface does not have an IP address, obtain a unique
> address and
> assign it to the interface with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
> 
> maui-nas-03(config)#ip address 172.22.53.1 255.255.255.0
> 
> Step 5   Clear the interface counters using the clear counters
> command.
> 
> maui-nas-03#clear counters
> Clear "show interface" counters on all interfaces [confirm]
> maui-nas-03#
> 
> Step 6   Perform the extended ping test as described in the
> "Using Extended
> ping Tests" section, earlier in this chapter.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Mary.KVITASHVILI
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: why loopback plug detected as loopback in first
> place?
> >[7:56883]
> >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:08:10 +0100
> >
> >If I am not mistaken, basically in the wiring, the transmit
> line is crossed
> >to the receive so that signals going out are looped back to
> the receive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > When you put a hardware loopback plug on a serial to test
> it, why does
> >the
> > > router see it as a loopback? With the show int serial
> command, you will
> >see
> > > -serial up, line protocol up (loopback mode)-
> > > Of course it needs to see it as loopback otherwise the
> router wouldn't
> > > operate and allow loopback tests. But what part of the
> digital signals
> > > specifically tell the router that what it sent out has just
> come back?
> >It
> > > can't be the carrier detect because that could be
> interpreted as a
> >carrier
> > > detect from any csu/dsu. Maybe a timing issue on the return
> signal, but
> > > sounds like the keepalives are being interpreted here
> somehow? Someone
> > > know the details of this? Help.
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RE: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Cable Guy wrote:
> 
> Yes, but using Hyperterminal as you described earlier would be
> limited to
> hyperterminal functionality (telnet), wouldn't it? If possible,
> I would like
> to use serial port on PC (read, ppp encapsulation) as complete
> network
> adapter solution without going through modems. Open up native
> DOS prompt and
> ping, web access, ect... It is an academic pursuit.

Ah, you want remote access. You want to let the PC join the network even
though it's connected via its serial port. That's very doable. It used to be
pretty common for PCs to connect that way in the olden days.

Check out the Cisco docuemntation on terminal services or access servers. Or
maybe somebody can just tell you how to do it. Someone who has recently
studied BCRAN could help maybe?

What version of Windows are you using? That might make a difference for what
you have to do on the Windows side.

Priscilla

> 
> 
> > > USB port. I do see some USB network card implementations are
> > > just a plug
> > > into the USB port with no wires exposed, and a rj-45 plugin
> > > dongle like
> > > thing. I guess I need one with wires exposed to cut into
> them,
> > > and with
> > > slip/ppp.
> >
> >Why? Or maybe it's proprietary info.
> 
> If it is encapsulated ppp coming out the USB port with exposed
> wires, they
> could be cut open and spliced onto a router's serial cable.
> Those dongle USB
> network plugs are solid and can't be cut open most likely, and
> probably
> ethernet framed anyway. I think USB will be difficult. Still
> looking...
> 
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RE: build tcp/ip on PC serial port [7:56885]

2002-11-06 Thread Cable Guy
>Ah, you want remote access. You want to let the PC join the network even
>though it's connected via its serial port. That's very doable. It used to 
>be
>pretty common for PCs to connect that way in the olden days.
>
>Check out the Cisco docuemntation on terminal services or access servers. 
>Or
>maybe somebody can just tell you how to do it. Someone who has recently
>studied BCRAN could help maybe?

I am talking about ppp over serial (BCRAN topic) but not remote access with 
modems, aux ports, or asynch ports.

Take a standard back to back router1 serial0 to router2 serial0, each with 
configured IPs. Keep this picture in mind, but replace one of the routers 
with a PC. Back to back WAN connection from PC to router's serial0.

I think finding a serial port with a driver that allows tcp/ip to bind on 
it, is the correct way to describe the obstacle here?

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Re: CCNP Support Passed [7:56995]

2002-11-06 Thread "Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIP
Symon Thurlow wrote:
> 

> That's it for CCNP yay! 

Congratulations

> I am going to begin CCDA and CCDP now, I
> remember reading somehwere that Priscilla's book- Top Down Network
> Design was a good read for the CCDP exam, is this correct?

Yep, an excellent book!

as an fyi I took and passed the DCN & CID exams a couple of weeks ago.  

My study sequence was

Two weeks before tests

Top down network design. - My main study materials.

Week before tests

CXX productions CCDA materials - quite good
CXX productions CCDP materials 
- hopelessly out of date in terms of content
- but accurate in terms of letting you know that 
  material wasnt in current exam.

weekend before DCN exam
Cisco Press CCDA cert guide - Serves it's purpose well!

then
Breeze through DCN exam

next day
Cisco press CCDP cert guide - Serves it's purpose well!

panic after scoring 20% in CCDP cert guide practice test on the
day
before the test.

...
Focussed reread of Priscilla's book
Focussed read of an old version CID coursebook.
Focussed reread of Cisco press CCDP cert guide
...
Download and run Boson test #1

Relax a bit

Final day

Take CID test and pass
Feel cheated because the test didnt seem difficult at all.

Hope that helps.

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc

PS. I do NOT recommend doing things the way I did.  It's just that I am
terrible at motivating myself to actually study unless the exam is
really imminent. If I had set myself a proper study plan and stuck to it
I would probably have a much more relaxed 24 hours prior to the CID test
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Re: Protocol generated routes to Null0... [7:56868]

2002-11-06 Thread Dale Kling
PAT,

gimme a buzz on msn.


Dale

- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Krebs" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Protocol generated routes to Null0... [7:56868]


> Hello friends,
>
> I am new to the groupstudy family (1st post!), so please bear with me as I
> go through my newbie stage here. :)
>
> I was reading a few messages on ccbootcamp.com and ran accross this
> interesting post:
>
> "...When folks ask me this question in the lab, I turn them to page four
of
> the test, where the general guidelines are listed:
> and I quote rule number one:
> 1 Static and default routes are not permitted unless directly stated in a
> question. This includes floating static, static routes
> to Null0 and routes to Null0 generated by any routing protocol"
>
> So herein lies my questions; how do I go about preventing a routing loop
> without a static to Null0. Secondly, how do I stop a routing protocol from
> generating a Null0 route?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Patrick




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AW: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread Stuart Laubstein
I actually did not get that impression from the original post. I think he
was just trying to decide if he should study for multiple labs. He did not
use CCIE written or anything like that in his sig. 

stuart

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> The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
> once or is this just a really foolish idea.

I really, really, *really* don't want this to sound as caustic as it's going
to sound, but I gotta say it anyway: dude, passing the CCIE Written is
*nothing*.  You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a
position to go for a second.  Don't put "CCIE Written" or "CCIE candidate"
on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.*  The
CCIE Written is a first step, nothing more (and a small first step at that,
in relation to the mammoth task of passing the Lab).  If you're looking for
resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go
for some of the CCIP certs instead.

(Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting "CCIE Written" on
their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing.
Hopefully I'm wrong. :-)

$0.02,

BJ




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