Re: Boson vs. Colt ??????
let me be the first of many to say: Boson On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Rah Sta wrote: To All, Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example: BCRAN Opinions appreciated. Thanks Raheem _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: ISP BGP Gripe
Now, with Verio... It's taken them days to get back to me and now, even though we already have access through them, they want to charge a $500 setup fee to run BGP. It's not that we don't have the $500 (we're a bank, ya know) but it seems silly to charge $500 for about two minutes worth of work, especially when they're already charging more for the dedicated line than Sprint is! You hope. Took them 4 hours to figure out how to announce routes to us. Is an extra fee to run BGP common? I'm very new to this, but I'm irritated by Verio and feel like griping about it anyway. This entire experience with Verio has me quite underwhelmed. No, BGP is a standard configuration and as far as I know, we weren't charged. I think its time to get the sales rep on the phone and let him know that the experience has been very ugly compared to Sprint and your taking quotes to replace your Verio circuit. This should provide leverage to drop that charge, but your probably too late to get better pricing like you probably could have. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SNMP versus RMON
From what I have read, RMON incorporates a lot more layer-2 functionality. andy On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Pierre-Alex wrote: Please pardon my ignorance. Why did Cisco invent RMON? SNMP seems to do exactly the same job (i.e. it provides information on all aspects of the network). I must be missing something ... _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Simulator
Depending upon your location maybe you could order a couple of ISDN lines. Where I'm at, for residental, they are $40 flat rate monthly. You could have them installed for nearly two years before they approached the cost of the simulator. andy On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Cthulu wrote: Hi, all I know this has been discussed, and after spending my free time this weekend searching high and low for a reasonably priced ISDN simulator, I am forced to conclude there is no such beast. EBAY is a bust thus far, and the best price I have found is for a Teltone (www.teltone.com) ISDN simulator at http://www.bigdcom.com/teleline.html. Big D is a Groupstudy recommended site; they sell the ISDN simulator about 1600 bucks, give or take some change. Now to the crux of my dilemma: do I or don't I? That is, ask my Mistress for this for Christmas, Halloween, and so forth. She is standing here reading this, so I appreciate how wonderful she is! So beautiful with great taste in men! Also, very heroic: she kept me from drinking a coffee flavored Slim Fast (we were out of beer). Before I approach the checkbook with hat in hand, is this best price? I mean, really? Has anyone else had better luck? I hate the thought of spending 1600 bucks on a 100 bucks worth of wiring and chips. Perhaps is it time for Groupstudy to form a buyer's union, where we can pool our money and buy in bulk at almost wholesale prices. Good idea? Bad idea? Too much headache potential? Luckily for me, Big D is in the Dallas area so I plan on there in person and talking to them about these simulators and their prices. If interested, I will let the group know what happens. If not, I'll keep mum. Flames, comments all welcome! Charles _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple modem connections
As someone that ran a dialup ISP for a number of years I have learned that sometimes you just need to refer them to the competition. Don't get me wrong. We usually would schedule a tech to head out and give it his best, but if he couldn't rattle something loose we would assume it was just a fluke between switching offices. Sometimes it simply does not work... andy On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Tony van Ree wrote: Hi all, Here I am sitting a work thinking just how simple it is to look after dial-up services. I have a person that calls into a router, connects, authenticates all seems fine. When I ping him I lose pings between the access router and the client. He connects a 48K I have had him remove compression and error correction from the modem this stops him dropping. OK. the fault seems to be on the line at his end I have some 200+ other dialups into the access router with no worries. I have the line checked out the tests come up fine. What's more the same person can dial into another service using the same equipment at his end but different equipment at the service provider end and all is fine I am assured. My next thing is to move the service to another access router only to find the problem is still there. He is the only one having trouble yet we seem to be the onlyones having trouble with him. EASY ISN'T IT. If it wasn't for little things like this I'd be unemployable. Teunis Hobart, Tasmania Australia -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost: CiscoWorks HP Openview in multiple VLAN.
The message made it to the list. Because no one is really managing the addresses on this list, whenever you send a message to the list you will usually get a couple of bounces from bad addresses. andy On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Ryan Ngai Hon Kong wrote: Repost. -Original Message- From: Post Master ** Do Not Use ** [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:25 PM To: Ryan Ngai Hon Kong Subject: Mail failure [008] Failure delivering user mail due to mailbag contention. Mail item was not delivered to: -- Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: Ryan Ngai Hon Kong To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: CiscoWorks HP Openview in multiple VLAN. Date: 2001-01-07 23:12 Priority: 3 Message ID: 7D8056F1D9E4D4118BB800A0C9EA57D7 Good day, It seems that I'm stuck with a problem on my customer network. I doesn't have much idea about LANE and their existing network setup since it is managed by other vendors so the bottom line is that I cannot view their cisco router configuration at all. However base on their existing updated network schematic design, they have 4 core catalyst switches with RSM module and few distribution floor switches. My current HP Openview and CiscoWorks configuration pointing the address of the local catalyst RSM IP with SNMP read-only enabled. I'm expecting that the HP Openview to discover all the devices in the network while the CiscoWorks discover all the routers in the network by looking on the routing table in RSM. At the end, it turns up that both of the network management software didn't discover any devices in the network even the after 2 days leaving it on my table to discover. Do you guys think that I should replicate/mirror all the other VLANs traffic into my network management port (SPAN)? Any idea or improvement should I look forward in case I left our any of requirements? Thanks in advance. p/s: I'll be appreciate that if you intend to asked a question, please reply to my email and I will reply to your query to the group again to illuminate unnecessary flooding. Best wishes, Ryan _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vsd question
Its a Visio file, which was bought by Microsoft. There will be no downloading at this time. Time to pay your MS tax. andy On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Gene Park wrote: Hello, everyone. Actually, I got a vsd file containing lab topology. Unfortunately, I can't open the file. Anybody there can tell me how do I download the software and open the file? Thank you so much. Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Gene Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: CCNP
--- Chiao Liang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chiao Liang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 00:47:49 +0800 Organization: GroupStudy.com Discussion Groups Reply-to: Chiao Liang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All Is there any good site can i go to or free study question for CCNP. http://www.cisco.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't telnet- Can't ping
Are you responsible for traffic leaving your network? If so, how else would you test connectivity to ensure your network was working properly. Pinging or telneting in is one thing, restricting pings or telnets out is the work of an NT moron that doesn't understand the protocols. andy On 3 Jan 2001, A.Strobel wrote: Working for an enterperise has its disadvantages. Based on the new policy, now I (network engineer) am unable to ping the outside world nor telnet to the outside world. Although my main job is taking care of Cisco gear inside the enterprise, I hate the fact that someone with a half brain sitting at a proxy server dictates me what I can do and what I can not do. I might have a chance in removing these restrictions if I can justify that I need to ping or telnet the ouside world. Can you guys think of any justification? TIA, A. Strobel Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Electrical and General knowledge
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Tony van Ree wrote: A couple of thoughts based on the PVC fault thread but looking at a different angle. Should we as aspiring "communications experts" understand: 1 Fundamental electrical and magnetic propogation theory. 2 Basic cabling technology, design and termination. Just depends on how valuable you want to be... andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Job Openings??? (fwd)
A CCIE list is not the right forum for anyone to be seeking a job, especially someone entry level. Go to monster.com or dice.com and do a web search like everyone else. Also, attachments are not allowed on the list. AOL addresses probably shouldn't be either for that matter. On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello---I have been a CCNA since July 13 and have had no luck finding a job. I live in Houston and would prefer a job in Houston but I also have family in Chicago; VirginaiaBeach, Virginia; and New York. I have pc helpdesk experience troubleshooting Compaq hardware and software, but have no professional networking or Cisco experience..only classroom and lab experience with 2500 series routers.I am not looking for a high salary just enough to get by, my main focus is getting experience. My resume is attached. Feel free to look at it and send me an email or call. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip route question
That is the rule. I will say that when there was only one device on the ethernet I have done it accidently and it worked though. andy On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Stull, Cory wrote: I know I'm showing my ignorance here but I'm tired of trying to find the answer on CCO. Must be looking in the wrong places. I just saw a Boson question asking about ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ethernet0 I thought you could only point static routes like that out of point to point interfaces? For example: ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ser0 Cory _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ip route question
I realize that it lets you do it, but the rule (which of course I have no proof of existance) is that pointing a route out of an interface which is not point-to-point and has multiple nodes, can lead to confusion in some instances. I have had it where it also did not work also. andy On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote: To which rule are you referring? Router_2(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 ? A.B.C.D Forwarding router's address Ethernet IEEE 802.3 Loopback Loopback interface Null Null interface SerialSerial Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Walden Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 10:01 AM To: Stull, Cory Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: ip route question That is the rule. I will say that when there was only one device on the ethernet I have done it accidently and it worked though. andy On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Stull, Cory wrote: I know I'm showing my ignorance here but I'm tired of trying to find the answer on CCO. Must be looking in the wrong places. I just saw a Boson question asking about ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ethernet0 I thought you could only point static routes like that out of point to point interfaces? For example: ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ser0 Cory _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ip route question
Hey, we all learned something today...I fixed my flawed logic and found out yet another hack :) andy On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Stull, Cory wrote: Andy, Thanks for the reply.. I agree with you.. It won't work if proxy-arp is disabled and its also a design rule not to do it out of a broadcast interface if you don't have to because there will be more traffic/arp-ing than needs to be. There are also reasons to do it though like it will redistribute the static route out of an interface automatically I have had multiple replies and this is my conclusion... it depends... Cory -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 10:33 AM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: Stull, Cory; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ip route question I realize that it lets you do it, but the rule (which of course I have no proof of existance) is that pointing a route out of an interface which is not point-to-point and has multiple nodes, can lead to confusion in some instances. I have had it where it also did not work also. andy On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote: To which rule are you referring? Router_2(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 ? A.B.C.D Forwarding router's address Ethernet IEEE 802.3 Loopback Loopback interface Null Null interface SerialSerial Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Walden Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 10:01 AM To: Stull, Cory Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:Re: ip route question That is the rule. I will say that when there was only one device on the ethernet I have done it accidently and it worked though. andy On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Stull, Cory wrote: I know I'm showing my ignorance here but I'm tired of trying to find the answer on CCO. Must be looking in the wrong places. I just saw a Boson question asking about ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ethernet0 I thought you could only point static routes like that out of point to point interfaces? For example: ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ser0 Cory _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Press Books ? Download ?
This is way off topic. On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Circusnuts wrote: Come on guys- need we perpetuate the sentiment that Americans are both = rude arrogant. I like honest myself. Jan- the last book I received free to read (from the = CCO) was IPSec. I would be glad to pass it on. I read the book = suggested we replace our old 11.2(22a) DES connections, based on some of = the scenarios in the book. All that snowballed into a 4 million dollar = order for Encryption equipment (3600's swapping out 4700's, 10 Base to = 100 FE, Encryption PA's for the 7500, upgrading to VIP2-50's, RSP2's to = RSP4's, PIX's, etc., etc). I'm sure it was for their free books. The Cisco Press books are not free, nor are they even Cisco's techically. I think this is what Cisco had in mind when = allowing these liberties, so read on ask away... I would say they would be giving Cisco Press books away for free if thats what they had in mind. Furthermore, either your network needed the equipment or it didn't. While doing your due diligence for such a large purchase I'm sure a $30-$50 book would have been rather insignifigant. If he wants it for free, most of it is on the web site. If he wants to pay for the work that was put into organizing the information into a book, he has that option also. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Luxembourg: Democracy or police state ? Kidnapped children andpolice repression In Luxembourg ?
Through a lack of moderation? andy On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Jim Erickson wrote: Now how did this get past the moderator. ---JRE--- ""antoinej"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 92gbuo$fv4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:92gbuo$fv4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... LUXEMBOURG: STATE KIDNAPPING ??? Luxembourg is a democracy. But i have to inform so many people as possible about a situation impossible to understand in a democracy. http://www.multimania.com/alliedforce Jean Antoine PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)
This is correct. You don't use full duplex if you are competing for bandwidth, ie, plugged into a hub. But if you are plugged into a switch, there is only one bandwidth domain between the device and switch and with nothing competing for the bandwidth on that link so you can go full duplex. andy On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, John lay wrote: Priscilla, everybody, I am confused. Ethernet and FastEthernet uses the CSMA/CD as a channel allocation techinque in a shared media access envoiroment. Here it comes the confusion, when you are saying that the Full-duplex does not support CSMA/CD because the transmit and receive are on different wires. This implies that in this case there is no shared media, how come if you have two clients competing to talk to the same server simultaneously!! Thanx On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 16:36:11 -0800, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: It's true for Ethernet because Ethernet's CSMA/CD media access control method has strict timing requirements, which result in strict length restrictions. Half-duplex uses CSMA/CD. Full-duplex does not. I wouldn't say it's true in general, however. Priscilla At 05:32 PM 12/25/00, Li Song wrote: "full-duplex can be used over longer distance than half-duplex" ?? what 's your opinion ?? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSL Product Recommendation
And you have done how many DSL rollouts exactly? And have first-hand experience with which of the following products? andy On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Simon wrote: Cisco - New and growing Lucent - Can't figure out who they are Nortel - Still run like an old canadian manufacturer (except optical products group) Alcatel - Yikes, run for your life _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weekend Challenge - Route Aggregation
In order to send a plausible route to the rest of the Internet, AS2 must advertise both the aggregate 96.0.0.0/14 and the more-specific 96.0.0.0/22. AS3 must also advertise 96.0.0.0/22. So, AS2, for legitimate reasons, is sending less-than-optimally-aggregated announcements. This of course is the obvious answer to the question. Another part would be that AS1 should be able to advertise that space any way it would like to, like with prepends for instance. If AS2 aggregated anyway, not only would they not recieve any traffic, but they would create an atomic aggregate that looses the intended information announced by AS1. When this was first written I didn't respond though because I actually checked some route servers (for the first set of addresses anyway) and the ASPATH indicated they were not multihomed and that the provider owned the entire class B. So I really couldn't think of a good reason to announce more specific space without multihoming. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TFTP Subdirectories
Are you sure that your tftpboot directory is /cisco on the machine? Is the machine unix or windows? make sure the permissions are 777 if its unix. Also, make sure you have enough room in your flash for the file. dir should show you. andy On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Pierre-Alex wrote: SCENARIO: The root of my TFTP server is a folder called Cisco Cisco has 2 subfolders: Cisco4000 and Cisco2500 I want to copy my running configuration to the Cisco4000 subfolder WHAT I DID: Cisco4000#copy run tftp Address or name of remote host []? 192.168.0.109 Destination filename [running-config]? /cisco/4000/running-config TFTP: error code 2 received - File cannot be created^ExmW___KJ^BxO@D ^EPJ %Error opening tftp://192.168.0.109//cisco/4000/running-config (Undefined error) QUESTION: If this can be done, what should I type to make it work Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pierre-Alex Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:45 PM To: Andy Walden Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TFTP Subdirectories Thanks -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:14 PM To: Pierre-Alex Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TFTP Subdirectories I don't believe you can browse or change directories with tftp. You can specify a subdirectory when you refer to the filename though, such as: /tftp/7507/ios/rsp-pv-mz.120-9.S Remember to keep your permissions accessible. andy I would like to store the IOS of my routers and switch in subfolders so that they are more organized. 0) can this be done? 1) what command will let me browse the content of my TFTP server folders 2) what command will start the upload process from a subdirectory Thank you Pierre-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TFTP Subdirectories
Unless you have another subdirectory under cisco called cisco then, remove the work cisco from the tftp filename you give. Andy On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Pierre-Alex wrote: I am using Cisco TFTP. In the field: TFTP Server Root directory , I have Z:\1.OS\Cisco (Z: is a mapped drive.) -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:50 AM To: Pierre-Alex Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TFTP Subdirectories Are you sure that your tftpboot directory is /cisco on the machine? Is the machine unix or windows? make sure the permissions are 777 if its unix. Also, make sure you have enough room in your flash for the file. dir should show you. andy On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Pierre-Alex wrote: SCENARIO: The root of my TFTP server is a folder called Cisco Cisco has 2 subfolders: Cisco4000 and Cisco2500 I want to copy my running configuration to the Cisco4000 subfolder WHAT I DID: Cisco4000#copy run tftp Address or name of remote host []? 192.168.0.109 Destination filename [running-config]? /cisco/4000/running-config TFTP: error code 2 received - File cannot be created^ExmW___KJ^BxO@D ^EPJ %Error opening tftp://192.168.0.109//cisco/4000/running-config (Undefined error) QUESTION: If this can be done, what should I type to make it work Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pierre-Alex Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:45 PM To: Andy Walden Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TFTP Subdirectories Thanks -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:14 PM To: Pierre-Alex Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TFTP Subdirectories I don't believe you can browse or change directories with tftp. You can specify a subdirectory when you refer to the filename though, such as: /tftp/7507/ios/rsp-pv-mz.120-9.S Remember to keep your permissions accessible. andy I would like to store the IOS of my routers and switch in subfolders so that they are more organized. 0) can this be done? 1) what command will let me browse the content of my TFTP server folders 2) what command will start the upload process from a subdirectory Thank you Pierre-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What can CDP offer ?
Its a time saving protocol to help you nail down the important details for mapping out and troubleshooting your network. Sometimes you may not be able to telnet to something, such as a provider's router also. andy - Original Message - From: CCIE TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: What can CDP offer ? Hi group members, I'm just wondering...if you can access a router by telneting to it, you can get most of the information that you will get through CDP. Then what is the benefit of CDP? Thanks to all Adia _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access List question
You can do it based on subnet. If you could narrow down the largest legal subnet in the block of ips you wanted to deny then block the left over ones with a smaller subnet or individuals. Good planning and design says things like this should fall on subnet lines. andy On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Edward Gomez wrote: Hi all, I was just wondering is there a way to specify a range of ip addresses in an access list. Say for instance that I am using an RFC1700 address 192.168.100.0/24 and I want to block ip addresses 192.168.100.100 - 192.168.100.254 from going out to 0.0.0.0 do I have to manually do 154 seperate entries in the access list? Thanks in advance! Eddie -- Edward J. Gomez, MCSE, CNE, CCNA Information Systems Manager ProxyMed, Inc 2555 Davie Road, Suite 110 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33317 (954) 473-1001 x315 http://www.proxymed.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clock Rate Wire Rate Bandwidth
0. How do you choose the clock rate on an serial interface? clock rate 64000 for instance. the clock rate is only configured on the dce. 1. What is the relationship (if any) between the wire rate and the clock rate? the clock rate is the number of bits that can be transmitted in a second. this equals your bandwidth. 2. What is the relationship if any between the clock rate and the bandwidth? same as above. 3. How could clock rate speed be "gentle on cables"? (See archive bellow) I have no idea what he means by gentle on the calbes unless he was using old cat-3 that was error prone. the running less traffic for debugs makes sense as you as a human can only process so much intelligently. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access List question
Awe, you gotta let the guy do his own work. He doesn't learn from cutting and pasting... andy On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Scott McClure, CCNP, CCDA, MCNE wrote: Andy and Edward are both correct. It is much easier if you were trying to block address that fall on specific subnet blocks. To specifically block your range 192.168.100.100 - 192.168.100.254 you would need: The basic concept of access list wildcard masks is that any 0 in the mask means the address bit has to match, and any 1 in the mask means you don't care. snip _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Clock Rate Wire Rate Bandwidth
56000 and I'm pretty sure wire-rate is the rate you can push data across the wire, so yes. when people say wire-speed, they mean without latency usually. andy On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Pierre-Alex wrote: So if your bandwidth if 56Kb/s what will be your clock rate. Do you need to have them exactly set equal (bandwidth and clock rate) I still need a definition of wire rate. Is it the same thing as bandwidth? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Walden Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:43 AM To: Pierre-Alex Cc: Cisco Subject: Re: Clock Rate Wire Rate Bandwidth 0. How do you choose the clock rate on an serial interface? clock rate 64000 for instance. the clock rate is only configured on the dce. 1. What is the relationship (if any) between the wire rate and the clock rate? the clock rate is the number of bits that can be transmitted in a second. this equals your bandwidth. 2. What is the relationship if any between the clock rate and the bandwidth? same as above. 3. How could clock rate speed be "gentle on cables"? (See archive bellow) I have no idea what he means by gentle on the calbes unless he was using old cat-3 that was error prone. the running less traffic for debugs makes sense as you as a human can only process so much intelligently. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
Eddie, I appreciate your reply. Just remember that you are a representative of Cisco and you need to put your words into that context. When you say something in the future, especially about a competitor, be prepared to be called out on the floor to back it up with actual facts and some sort of source for your data. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Eddie Parra wrote: Andy, I am not slamming the Extreme switch. They make a fair switch. I am just stating facts. I would buy Foundry before I buy Extreme. Foundry makes a better switch than Extreme, and is also cheaper than Cisco. I will go over what I wrote: facts. 1) Enterprises do not come close to switching capacities - FACT 98% of the time. 2) The Catalyst 6500 offers more features - FACT (I will go into more detail if you want) 3) Cisco has a road map for all future IOS features. Cisco can tell you what will be in 12.1(10) if you wanted to know. Every IOS release is planned feature wise. -Eddie -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:58 PM To: Eddie Parra Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco This is the second email I have seen from someone at Cisco slamming the competition and promoting their stuff today. If your a sales guy fine, find the cisco sales list and those that want to here it will subscribe. I'm sure someone can contact their Cisco sales rep for the kinda of vague information and subtle slams listed below. If you wanted to offer a accurate list of features between the two products, I imagine it would be better recieved. andy On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Eddie Parra wrote: Inamul, What do you need the switch to do? I am not sure what your application is, but most enterprises come NO WHERE close to either products switching ability. I say this not because I work for Cisco, but our switch does a TON of things the extreme switch doesn't. Ask yourself what features you need now and also look at the roadmaps (if extreme even offers one) for future feature. -Eddie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Desai, Inamul Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco My company just about to choose Cisco 6509 or EXtreme switch. We even brought extreme switch for evolution, Cisco could not deliver test box so we had to go their lab. Anyway, they both have pros and cons and extreme is way faster than Cisco with better pricing. With Cisco, even if want to buy it, we will have to wait till April 2001 as Cisco can not fill in orders or they do not have any in stock. Cisco is definitely loosing market share on switching side. I would prefer Cisco cos I am working on CCNP but wish Cisco could deliver box yesterday like extreme. Inamul -Original Message- From: Joseph Ezerski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:38 AM To: 'Bharat Suneja'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco You bring up very good points. I would like to add another. I work for an ISP and there is a lot to be said for a homogenous network. I am familiar with IOS and as the majority of our network devices are Cisco, I have an easier time learning new things or figuring out others. Also, it is nice to be able to go to one source to get answers. I am not necessarily the biggest fan of Cisco, but going the Cisco route does have major benefits. FYI, I have used Boson Tests. I find them to be excellent tools for putting you into the mindset of the exam. Joseph -Original Message- From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of thought before making purchase decisions - Extreme, Foundry, Juniper, et al DO NOT have end-to-end solutions. Cisco does. The former also do not have a trained pool of network engineers to recommend and implement their products, whereas you'll find plenty of Cisco-trained, Cisco-experienced network engineers, designers support professionals. Cisco IOS offers one consistent interface CLI throughout most of its product line. Cisco also offers an impressive range of Network Management products that we're yet to see from other vendors. It's an endless debate - but not all enterprise networks require the performance capabilities of a Juniper or a Foundry. Having said that, let me also add that as things stand, by no means is Cisco technologically the most superior throughout the length breadth of its entire prouduct line. Juniper, Extreme, Foundry and others do have their niches
Re: Routing Scenario...
Are the connections to two different providers? Assuming they are and you are recieving two different sets of routes, you could run an IBGP session between the two routers so they could share routes for outgoing traffic. As far as incoming, you will need to study the traffic patterns to the two different providers then tweak it with aspath prepends and route filtering. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Fowler, Joey wrote: Let's say we have the following: Internet---A---| |- Ethernet Same subnet - two paths from the Internet Internet--D| And a person wanted to change it to the following: Internet---A---B | Internet---D---C The links between each router above is a T1. A and D both have an Ethernet connection coming off of them. Here is my question. On the first graph with A and D connected you can run BGP so that any traffic is shared on each router. Is there now a way to keep that between A and D so that they both receive any info destined for that subnet? I don't see any way there could be, but I also am still learning about BGP. If this isn't possible would it make sense to subnet the available network address that A and D currently share and route traffic between the two of them? Thanks, Joey Fowler We are told that talent creates its own opportunities. But it sometimes seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its own talents. - Eric Hoffer (1902-1983 American Author Philosopher) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Scenario...
I can't think of any reason to put the ethernet interfaces in different subnets. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Fowler, Joey wrote: Let's say Router A and D both have a subnet that in scenario 1 was shared. After changing it, to the second scenario, would the subnet need to be divided into two? i.e. originally 12.12.12.0/24 before and 12.12.12.0/25 12.12.12.128/25 afterward? -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 9:41 AM To: Fowler, Joey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Routing Scenario... Are the connections to two different providers? Assuming they are and you are recieving two different sets of routes, you could run an IBGP session between the two routers so they could share routes for outgoing traffic. As far as incoming, you will need to study the traffic patterns to the two different providers then tweak it with aspath prepends and route filtering. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Fowler, Joey wrote: Let's say we have the following: Internet---A---| |- Ethernet Same subnet - two paths from the Internet Internet--D| And a person wanted to change it to the following: Internet---A---B | Internet---D---C The links between each router above is a T1. A and D both have an Ethernet connection coming off of them. Here is my question. On the first graph with A and D connected you can run BGP so that any traffic is shared on each router. Is there now a way to keep that between A and D so that they both receive any info destined for that subnet? I don't see any way there could be, but I also am still learning about BGP. If this isn't possible would it make sense to subnet the available network address that A and D currently share and route traffic between the two of them? Thanks, Joey Fowler We are told that talent creates its own opportunities. But it sometimes seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its own talents. - Eric Hoffer (1902-1983 American Author Philosopher) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Routing Scenario...
Then you have a point to point connection and should use /30's for the interfaces. If you want to provide more specifics then I could probably do the same. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Fowler, Joey wrote: What if the link between each router wasn't Ethernet but was a T1. -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:39 PM To: Fowler, Joey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Routing Scenario... I can't think of any reason to put the ethernet interfaces in different subnets. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Fowler, Joey wrote: Let's say Router A and D both have a subnet that in scenario 1 was shared. After changing it, to the second scenario, would the subnet need to be divided into two? i.e. originally 12.12.12.0/24 before and 12.12.12.0/25 12.12.12.128/25 afterward? -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 9:41 AM To: Fowler, Joey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Routing Scenario... Are the connections to two different providers? Assuming they are and you are recieving two different sets of routes, you could run an IBGP session between the two routers so they could share routes for outgoing traffic. As far as incoming, you will need to study the traffic patterns to the two different providers then tweak it with aspath prepends and route filtering. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Fowler, Joey wrote: Let's say we have the following: Internet---A---| |- Ethernet Same subnet - two paths from the Internet Internet--D| And a person wanted to change it to the following: Internet---A---B | Internet---D---C The links between each router above is a T1. A and D both have an Ethernet connection coming off of them. Here is my question. On the first graph with A and D connected you can run BGP so that any traffic is shared on each router. Is there now a way to keep that between A and D so that they both receive any info destined for that subnet? I don't see any way there could be, but I also am still learning about BGP. If this isn't possible would it make sense to subnet the available network address that A and D currently share and route traffic between the two of them? Thanks, Joey Fowler We are told that talent creates its own opportunities. But it sometimes seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its own talents. - Eric Hoffer (1902-1983 American Author Philosopher) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TFTP Subdirectories
I don't believe you can browse or change directories with tftp. You can specify a subdirectory when you refer to the filename though, such as: /tftp/7507/ios/rsp-pv-mz.120-9.S Remember to keep your permissions accessible. andy I would like to store the IOS of my routers and switch in subfolders so that they are more organized. 0) can this be done? 1) what command will let me browse the content of my TFTP server folders 2) what command will start the upload process from a subdirectory Thank you Pierre-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLSM
You should have VLSM down by the time you start reading BSCN. Find any introductory book and it should present it plenty, Intro to Cisco Routing for instance, or something like http://www.howtosubnet.com or even typing subneting into a seach engine produced hundreds of relevant results. andy On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Dyland Desmarais wrote: Greet all I am moving through the second chapter of the BSCN text from Cisco press. To my disappointment, they only dedicated 3 pages to VLSM's and did a rather quick and dirty job on it. Would anyone going through or have already passed their BSCN have a web resource or other source that I can get more info about VLSM's. Thanx a banana bunch Dyland _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE R/S Pass Mark
1. In the disclaimer you must read before taking the "survey" that comes before the test, it clearly states that your test will be scored in accordance to how you answer the questions. I hope that no one minds when I fudge my survey to reflect I haven't really been doing this professionally for 6 years... -andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
I think that training and certificates is a market all unto itself. The Cisco training portion could break out and stand alone because you still have to know about the foundations of network to get through it. When someone else develops a training and cert program as comprehensive, then the training sector will also see competition. andy On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Mohamed Heeba wrote: so wat do u think the value of Cisco Certificates in the market , how long time this value is going to retain its bright ?? -Original Message- From: Andy Walden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:34 AM To: Mohamed Heeba Subject:Re: eXtreme and Cisco They won't die, but they are loosing a ton of market share. Juniper is really kicking them hard on the router side (7xxx-12xxx). Foundry and Extreme are kicking them hard on the enterprise side (5xxx-6xxx). At some point its all going to add up and be very painful for Cisco. That is the price of being the big boy in town. They are slow and strapped down with a huge existing customer based and bloated buggy IOS where the other manufacturers don't have that problem. andy On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Mohamed Heeba wrote: hi guys just coming now from extreme presentation .looks like they have much more stronger products than cisco (in giga swtiches of course )do u think guys that Cisco is going to die because of small focused companies like extreme and jinper ??? if anyone feel interested ..we would like to discuss this Mohamed _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BOOKSAMILLION
Honest mistake I'm sure. The real test will be how well they clean it up. I have recently bought from them also and was very impressed with how their prices beat amazon to a pulp and their turn around on delivery was pretty good too. It no longer makes sense for me to buy from amazon because not only am I paying the same price as the bookstore, but I pay shipping also. andy On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Richard Fulton wrote: I apologise for the off topic post. I tried booksamillion for the first time last week after hearing great things about them on groupstudy. I was surprise to find that I was charged for a copy of The Beatles Anthology when my order arrived. What this has to do with TCP/IP protocol books I am not sure. I have ordered around 40 books off the web in the last few years and I have never had an incorrect order from: www.varsitybooks.com www.fatbrain.com www.bn.com www.amazom.com Who knows, perhaps this was an accident. However the Beatles Anthology is a featured book on their site currently. My .02 cents Rick Fulton CCNA, MCSE, MCNE _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spanning Tree Bridge Identifier
The way spanning tree works to determine the root bridge it chooses the lowest MAC address. It looks like your 2500 is choosing a MAC address randomly to ensure it can participate in this process properly. andy On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Hubert Pun wrote: Why does it have the following if I have my bridge on my C2500 during the boot up process? and where is this MAC address from? -- Note: A random Spanning Tree Bridge Identifier address of .0c00.b138 has been chosen for Bridge Group 1 since there is no mac address associated with the selected interface. Ensure that this address is unique. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TFTP
Did you bother checking before you have that answer? You can configure the network server to act as a limited Trivial File Transfer Protocol (TFTP) server from which other Cisco servers can boot their software. As a TFTP server host, the network server responds to TFTP read request messages by sending a copy of its ROM software to the requesting host. The TFTP read request message must use the file name that you specified in the network server configuration. To specify TFTP server operation for a communications server, use the tftp-server system global configuration command. The full syntax follows. tftp-server system filename list no tftp-server system filename list This command has two arguments: filename and list. The argument filename is the name you give the communications server ROM file, and the argument list is an IP access-list number. The system sends a copy of the ROM software to any host which issues a TFTP read request with this file name. To learn how to specify an access list, see the "Configuring IP Access Lists" section in the chapter "Routing IP." You can specify multiple file names by repeating the tftp-server system command. To remove a previously defined file name, use the no tftp-server system command and append the appropriate file name and an access-list number. Images that run from ROM, including IGS images, cannot be loaded over the network. Therefore, it does not make sense to use TFTP to offer the ROMs on these images. Example: This command causes the router to send, via TFTP, a copy of the ROM software when it receives a TFTP read request for the file configfile. The requesting host is checked against access list 22. tftp-server system configfile 22 On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, ItsMe wrote: Hmmm, the way I read your request - a router as a tftp server, to my knowledge you, can't. You need another box for the server itself? ""Pierre-Alex"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Group, How do you setup a router as a TFTP server? Which routers support that feature? Thanks Pierre-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TFTP
My quick response is that the file name is incorrect somehow, but I'm not completely sure. Try a dir command. andy On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Pierre-Alex wrote: I have two routers. A Cisco 4000 (the TFTP server) and a Cisco2513 (the client) This is what I did and what I got. What went wrong? Cisco4000(config)#tftp-server flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin Warning: flash:c2500-js-l_112-17.bin does not exist. Command retained Cisco2513#copy flash tftp System flash directory: File Length Name/status 1 8108960 c2500-js-l_112-17.bin [8109024 bytes used, 279584 available, 8388608 total] Address or name of remote host [192.168.0.1]? Source file name? c2500-js-l_112-17.bin Destination file name [c2500-js-l_112-17.bin]? Verifying checksum for 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' (file # 1)... OK Copy 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin' from Flash to server as 'c2500-js-l_112-17.bin'? [yes/no]yes .. TFTP: error code 2 received - Access denied THANKS Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Walden Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 5:55 PM To: ItsMe Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TFTP Did you bother checking before you have that answer? You can configure the network server to act as a limited Trivial File Transfer Protocol (TFTP) server from which other Cisco servers can boot their software. As a TFTP server host, the network server responds to TFTP read request messages by sending a copy of its ROM software to the requesting host. The TFTP read request message must use the file name that you specified in the network server configuration. To specify TFTP server operation for a communications server, use the tftp-server system global configuration command. The full syntax follows. tftp-server system filename list no tftp-server system filename list This command has two arguments: filename and list. The argument filename is the name you give the communications server ROM file, and the argument list is an IP access-list number. The system sends a copy of the ROM software to any host which issues a TFTP read request with this file name. To learn how to specify an access list, see the "Configuring IP Access Lists" section in the chapter "Routing IP." You can specify multiple file names by repeating the tftp-server system command. To remove a previously defined file name, use the no tftp-server system command and append the appropriate file name and an access-list number. Images that run from ROM, including IGS images, cannot be loaded over the network. Therefore, it does not make sense to use TFTP to offer the ROMs on these images. Example: This command causes the router to send, via TFTP, a copy of the ROM software when it receives a TFTP read request for the file configfile. The requesting host is checked against access list 22. tftp-server system configfile 22 On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, ItsMe wrote: Hmmm, the way I read your request - a router as a tftp server, to my knowledge you, can't. You need another box for the server itself? ""Pierre-Alex"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Group, How do you setup a router as a TFTP server? Which routers support that feature? Thanks Pierre-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching Black Book by Sean Odom and Hanson Nottingham
Stupid, I appreciate you reply. It caused me to take a closer look into your comments and I came across this from Carl Hagan in May2000. "Obviously, you have never met Sean Odom or heard him speak. He is probably one of the most knowledgable Cisco consultants ever to grace our presence. You know why he doesn't keep up with this group? Because everyone has comments like this. It keeps the people who this group could use the most from keeping up with the list. If we all paid more attention to the technical problems we have and the learning we need, we would have people like Sean Odom and Todd Lammle keeping up with the group. Who has time for the Soap Opera that this group list is providing?" It does sound like this Carl guy has an unnatural fascination with this Sean guy. Just fueling the fire... -andy On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Stupid Idiot wrote: Holy crap Robin, that has to be the most blatant plug, from a friend of an author, that I've ever seen! It's morons like you that make Amazon reviews worthless. How much did the authors have to pay you for you to litter this list with your "stunning" review? Just an FYI for the group. I got the Switching Black Book from Sean Odom and Doug Hammond. I cannot believe what it has! I know Sean Odom is known for putting out books that are well written and takes the time to place more than the needed technical information. What I thought I was getting was a atep by step guide on just Catalyst switches and the configurations. What I got? Catalyst switches, ATM LightStream Switches and WAN switch configurations as well. Holy cow Batman! Where was this book when I needed it months ago??? This is a gold mine. I don't think there is any other books like it out on the market yet. It is a good resource to have. Carl Hagan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP Local Pref and MED/Metric - Route Maps Inbound/Outbound
Because you aren't controlling the traffic, you are controlling the prefixes that you are recieving or announcing. andy On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Jennifer Mellone wrote: BGP Local Pref is used to control outbound traffic. MED/Metric is used to control inbound traffic. Why is it that you do an inbound route map (vs outbound) when setting local pref and an outbound route map (vs. inbound) when setting MED? It seems opposite. - Jennifer Mellone _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Big a router for Full BGP routes?
According to this afternoon's Bates Report, there are over 95,000 routes being advertised across the internet, at least from the vantage point of the gentleman doing the reporting. I bring this up because a week ago, the reporter saw 93,000 routes. At some point this week they were at 110,000 also. Some weird anamoly occured. Historically, in September 1996 there were about 40,000 routes advertised. In September 1998 that number was around 50,000. I gotta wonder how much of this increase is due to people multiple homing with different ISP's so they can "load balance across the internet"? :- Sure, more /24's on the net then ever... In any case, for those who ask "how big a router do I need to handle the full internet routing table?" the answer may well be "how many months do you want to keep the same unit in service?" I was recently reading about a startup think-tank that was actually looking at the problem of the growing route table and how to handle it with some forethought as opposed to just throwing more hardware at it. I will offer that unless you are a tier-1/2 provider, you don't need full route tables though. All most multihomed networks with 2-4 peers need is their provider's customer routes to make intelligent routing decisions. Anything else can be tweaked as needed, but ultimatly things are generally connected enough it doesn't much matter... Can you imagine what this would be without CIDR? Much less I would bet, then again maybe not since we would be long out of IP space and dealing with all those IPv6 routes.. andy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: average salaries
Location, location, location... its a different ballgame between the bay area and keokuk, ia... On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Denis A. Baldwin wrote: Is there a survey somewhere of average salaries for various Cisco Exam holders? Or IT people with certifications in general? I am coming up for review in a few weeks and am about ready to take my CCNA, but would like some ammunition to use against the board of directors. Denis _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help with Vlan on a C2900 XL...
Try typing: int VLAN60 no shut control-z andy On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Edward Gomez wrote: Hi all... Additional info on my problem with VLAN on 2900. The VLAN is active as you can see below. It will just no go out of the admin down status. Here is a copy of the config, along with a show int, and a show vlan. Thanks in advance! ! version 12.0 no service pad service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Test ! logging buffered informational no logging console enable secret 5 $1$7d58$d9kpvNkDR3vg2N/cOeTDV0 ! ip subnet-zero ! interface FastEthernet0/1 ..Deleted to make it brief.. interface FastEthernet0/17 switchport access vlan 60 ! interface FastEthernet0/18 ! ..Deleted to make it brief.. ! interface VLAN1 ip address 192.168.50.2 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache ! interface VLAN60 ip address 192.168.100.2 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache shutdown ! ip default-gateway 192.168.50.1 snmp-server engineID local 000902308042DFC0 snmp-server community private RW snmp-server community public RO ! line con 0 transport input none stopbits 1 line vty 0 4 login line vty 5 15 login ! end Test#sh int vlan60 VLAN60 is administratively down, line protocol is down Hardware is CPU Interface, address is 0030.8042.dfc0 (bia 0030.8042.dfc0) Internet address is 192.168.100.2/24 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Test#sh vlan VLAN Name StatusPorts - --- 1default activeFa0/1, Fa0/2, Fa0/3, Fa0/4, Fa0/5, Fa0/6, Fa0/7, Fa0/8, Fa0/9, Fa0/10, Fa0/11, Fa0/12, Fa0/13, Fa0/14, Fa0/15, Fa0/16, Fa0/18, Fa0/19, Fa0/20, Fa0/21, Fa0/22, Fa0/23, Fa0/24 60 live_network activeFa0/17 1002 fddi-default active 1003 token-ring-default active 1004 fddinet-default active 1005 trnet-defaultactive VLAN Type SAID MTU Parent RingNo BridgeNo Stp BrdgMode Trans1 Trans2 - -- - -- -- -- -- 1enet 11 1500 - - ---1002 1003 60 enet 100060 1500 - - ---0 0 1002 fddi 101002 1500 - - ---1 1003 1003 tr101003 1500 1005 0 --srb 1 1002 1004 fdnet 101004 1500 - - 1ibm -0 0 1005 trnet 101005 1500 - - 1ibm -0 0 Test# -- Edward J. Gomez, MCSE, CNE, CCNA Information Systems Manager ProxyMed, Inc 2555 Davie Road, Suite 110 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33317 (954) 473-1001 x315 http://www.proxymed.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP
Setup an IBGP session between them. Andy On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Var1abl3 Var1abl3 wrote: I have two core routers. One of them has two connection to the internet and the other one has one. How can I setup BGP so that I can utilize all three of the links? Thanks Router A -isp1 \-isp2 Router B -isp1 _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Whats Up Gold
Big Brother is excellant. http://www.bb4.com/ On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Krishna Shankar wrote: Hi all Is there any good competetor product for Whats Up Gold..If yes please tell me thanks in advance _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T3- DS3
No, they are identical. I'm sure someone else will respond with some more history on the reasons they are named the different things. The DS is digital signal and T I assume has something to do with TDM. Its 28 T1's or DS-1's, or 672 DS0's though I have never heard T0. andy On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Chris Larson wrote: What is the difference between the 2. I know a T-3 is the about equal to 30 T-1's, but there must also be a difference in signaling right? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software recommendation
CVS and some expect scripts are what I use. http://www.cvshome.org andy On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Tony Russell wrote: I am looking for a piece of software that will allow me to keep a database of router configs. It would periodically and automatically get the config from a router and store multiple copies of the config if required. I don't know if CiscoWorks will do this or not, but I am not looking to spend CiscoWorks money on this.. Anyone know of (free/cheap) software that will accompish this Tony Russell Network Engineer IBEAM Broadcasting _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP book
Is this it: BGP4 Inter-Domain Routing in the Internet by John W. Stewart. Paperback (January 15, 1999) On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Laurel Redd wrote: There is one I would not recommend: BGPv4 this is a slim paperback book (has green spine I think) can't remember the author. HORRIBLE book. I am sure it had some good info in it but reading through it made NO sense to me at all. Talked in circles most of the time and was really dry. Morgan - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Lorenzo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 2:21 PM Subject: BGP book can anyone recommend a book that has extensive coverage of BGP? Thanks! Kenneth _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: !H
A routing loop will generally bounce back and forth between two interfaces when you do a traceroute. Host unreachable just means the box is down and a route still remains for it. andy On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Croyle, James wrote: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm I think you have a routing loop as is described here. Ping from several stations and map it out. Jim -Original Message- From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15) To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM Subject: RE: !H Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the destination HOST?? -Original Message- From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM To: Jason yee Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: !H destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network Jason yee wrote: hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in traceroute results __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ Richard Bosire Network Engineer CCNA,CCSE AfricaOnline (k) Ltd tel +254-2-243775 fax +254-2-243762 http://www.africaonline.co.ke _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP!! Confused beginner. [1:966]
I think the idea is versatility. Its nice that you want a desk job. You open yourself up to more opportunities when you don't restrict yourself though. Generally network types are a mixture anyway. Bottom line is you set a goal and do it. When your done your a different place with a different point of view and set your next goal based on that view and how achieving your last goal suited you. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm at desk most of the time that I'm working on the equipment. Sure with installs and outages I'm crouched with a laptop balanced on my knees, but they hurt after awhile. You need to do what you think will make you happy. Btw, I don't classify my work as a desk job as I'm generally bouncing off the walls. Of course there are those times when you wrestle with a coworker or strangle customer...but not as often :) andy On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, JL wrote: I currently work in a NOC and fail to see how it is a waste of the cert. I troubleshoot a wide variety of equipment (remotely and with site techs on the phone) relating to voice and data issues. I think this will in the long run tend to make me a more well rounded person technically and allow me to be a greater value to anyone who employs me in the future (it will also enhance my paycheck significantly). I compare this to my previous incarnation as a server jockey (network admin) where we took a very vendor centric approach (similarity = ease of management, less problems = less marketability due to lack of diversity). I grant you that all NOC positions will not have the varied type of interaction that I get, but I think that getting in the door and gaining some experience is the important thing, not where you get in at. Gragg Vaill MCP CCNA NOS Contractor Sprint ION NOC Kansas City, Ks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of joshandlaura Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP!! Confused beginner. [1:966] I'm afraid you won't have much luck finding an office type job that makes use of a Cisco cert. The closest thing I can think of in my experience is to work in a NOC (Network Operations Center) of some corporate data center, but that would be a waste of a good opportunity to make a better salary actually working on the equipment, besides it gets awful old just sitting in a chair all day. If you like networking just go for it, ya never know, you might like the high pace of Cisco life. "Cara Bates" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This message might be out of place for all of you that know what you are doing, but maybe someone can help. I have recently decided to look into getting into the telecommunications, data communications line of work and am having trouble knowing where to get started. I am a college student, but I would have years to go if I decided to try and get a degree in that kind of thing right now. I have so many different answers about where to start, and Im confused. I am interested in getting some sort of work-in-an-office job (as oppossed to an on-the-field one) and I wondered what types of jobs someone who was CCNA certified might be able to get. I have connections at Verizon and Northpoint and would like to work in an environment like that, but need to know what traiing is the correct one! Someone told me that my best bet is to become CCNA certified before anything else. Anyway, any guidance as to where to start would be helpful! Thanks! _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suggestions please! - for projects
Put all the configs into CVS and keep revision control on them. Setup a TACACS+ server to centtral password control. Setup MRTG to monitor all of your interfaces. Setup a lab. Get a few copies of Visio, use them. andy On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, beth shriver wrote: Hello group! , I have been given the task of coming up with projects for next year for our wide area network that would fall under these three catagories 1. Reliability ( making network more reliable) 2. Documentation 3. New technology So far some of the things i have been able to come up with are: upgrading IOS on routers in the field verifying serial/model numbers on all routers Implement VPN Test Satellite usage as a temporary option I need many more projects ... can anyone share some of their "beginner" projects or suggest things i could look into to cover these three things? any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED because i have until tomorrow! :) Beth __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
