RE: IMA problem between Cisco 3600 and Nortel Pass [7:71632]
What does the troubleshooting NTP (I forget the exact name number, but if you have a PP, you probably know it) say about error 7011 1213 and 0999 0012? I notice the former is a critical while the latter is a major; also, the times on the errors sometime overlap. You may have to read down into the verbiage to get a description. It's highly likely they both result from a single root cause, and looking at the detailed description on both error messages may yield what the PP thinks is the problem. That should then lead you to what needs to change (and that might be on either switch). Sorry I can't help more than that, but I don't have PP handy anymore. Annlee Raul Arango wrote: Hi, I am having a stability trouble with an IMA configured over a Cisco 3600 router. The IMA is connected to a Nortel Passport 7480. The IMA has 2 links, and continuously one of the links fails. Here is the IMA configuration: interface ATM1/0 no ip address no ip mroute-cache no atm oversubscribe no atm ilmi-keepalive ima-group 0 scrambling-payload impedance 120-ohm ! interface ATM1/1 no ip address no ip mroute-cache no atm oversubscribe no atm ilmi-keepalive ima-group 0 scrambling-payload impedance 120-ohm ! interface ATM1/IMA0 no ip address no atm ilmi-keepalive ! interface ATM1/IMA0.1 point-to-point ip address 10.7.128.154 255.255.255.252 pvc 3/223 ubr 3840 encapsulation aal5snap ! ! interface ATM1/IMA0.2 point-to-point ip address 10.16.0.82 255.255.255.252 pvc 3/224 As can be seen, the passport detects many remote links failures: CRITICAL SET 70111213 03-06-29 17:35:45 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/2 CRITICAL SET 70111213 03-06-29 17:35:45 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/1 CLEARED CLR 70111213 03-06-29 17:35:55 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/2 CLEARED CLR 70111213 03-06-29 17:35:55 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/1 MAJORSET 09990012 03-06-29 18:07:40 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/2 CLEARED CLR 09990012 03-06-29 18:10:19 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/2 MAJORSET 09990012 03-06-29 18:10:48 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/1 CRITICAL SET 70111213 03-06-29 18:17:42 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/1 CLEARED CLR 09990012 03-06-29 18:17:42 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/1 CLEARED CLR 70111213 03-06-29 18:17:52 EM/PPMAL010 LP/1 IMA/1 LK/1 I want to know if somebody have experience configuring IMA in similar surroundings and can help me. Regards, Raúl. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71654t=71632 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]--long reply [7:36588]
All right, John-- A couple of years ago (discreet cough), Cisco gave away copies of books as promos. One was _IP Telephony_ by Gorlaski and Kolon (McGraw Hill, 2000). GOOD BOOK. On pp 77-78 is an explanation of the Nyquist rate and voice sampling: ...Thus, if an analog voice signal reaching up to 3400Hz is to be sampled at the Nyquist rate, the sampling frequency must be at least twice that, or 6800Hz, or samples per second. Sampling does not have to be done at the Nyquist rate. The Nyquist rate is a minimal requirement to reproduce the input waveform, but sampling can be done at rates higher or lower than the Nyquist rate. If sampling takes place at rates lower than the Nyquist rate, the result is distortion of the waveform known as (italics) aliasing. Aliasing just means that there is more than one output waveform that fits the 'connect the dots' pattern of the samples. There is no aliasing ast the Nyquist rate and above. They go on to point out that, by sampling at a rate above the Nyquist rate, you have more than the minimum required information to reliably reconstruct the voice signal at the destination. This allows you to lose a few samples in transit (not that such things would ever happen, of course) and still have only one possible reconstruction. Sampling at 8000Hz means there is a 4000Hz voice bandwidth (overly generous but convenient because 4 is a power of 2 and that makes it easier to code in a binary system). And from the 8000 samples/sec, each of which sends 1 8-bit word, we have the DS0 of 64000 bps (why only 56000 bps may be usable is a separate issue, having to do with signaling on telephone links). Annlee John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is OT, but the upper limit of human hearing is actually around 20KHz at best and usually drops to around 16KHz or so. If your upper limit starts to drop below that you'll start to notice that it's difficult to hear clearly. (Sorry, in my other life I'm a sound engineer and musician.) I've heard that the 4KHz limit is because there is a low-pass filter used for voice. I can't remember the exact reason, but that information plugged into the Nyquist theorem explains--as Priscilla mentions--why a DS0 is 64Kbps. Okay, time to do some serious studying once I'm through being lazy and drinking this coffee... John On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Priscilla Oppenheimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 08:06 PM 2/26/02, Rafay wrote: How do you describe Sample Rate.? In what context? The term is sometimes used when describing the analog to digital process, for example when digitizing voice. Voice produces an analog wave as your lungs and tongue press against the air. An analog wave has infinite possible values. Computers can't deal with infinity. They work with discreet numbers. The solution is to sample the analog voice many times per second. Sampling means to take a snapshot. The sample rate is how often the analog wave is sampled. Nyquist showed that you have to sample at twice the rate of the highest frequency that may occur in the original data. Most humans don't output (and can't hear) anything about 4 KHz. So sample 8,000 times per second (8Khz) and the result will be good enough. When using a sample rate of 8,000 KHz, if each sample is saved in an 8-bit byte, the resulting data rate is 64 Kbps. That's one DS0. Compression allows us to use a smaller data rate, with some loss in fidelity. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36588t=36588 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]
The key is to know which header the list statement is being applied to. Ports (source and destination) are a part of a TCP header or a UDP header. They are a means of identifying the application that is being multiplexed at the Transport Layer. IP headers do not have ports--they have source and destination addresses (logical addresses, of course--not physical). Look here-- http://www.rfc-editor.org/cgi-bin/rfcsearch.pl RFC791 is IP and has that lovely ASCII art header in paragraph 3.1. For TCP, the number is RFC793, also paragraph 3.1. UDP is RFC768--surprise! the header is right at the beginning. HTH Annlee Anil Gupte wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Actually my question was not clear, I think. My confusion is with the IP vs. TCP. In other words should it not be somthing like: deny ip any any eq 139 permit ip any any Why deny TCP and permit IP as opposed to deny IP and permit IP? Also, the purpose of these is that I am trying to block some suspicious activity on those ports (I think someone may be running an illegal IRC server on that port). Thanx for the reply (and the kid gloves). :-) Anil Gupte - Original Message - From: Scott Nawalaniec To: 'Anil Gupte' ; Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: RE: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164] Hi Anil, Sometimes its scaring posting to this group. =) To answer your question, if you don't the permit IP any any command, there is an implicit deny rule at the end of an access-list, which will drop all traffic that you have not allowed through the access-list. The other two deny statements are dropping netbios port 139 and something that uses port . Hope this helps. Scott -Original Message- From: Anil Gupte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164] Hi All! I watch this list occassionally (when I have time). This is my first post to this list, so be kind. :p) In the access list below: ** conf t int ethernet0/0 no ip access-list extended secure2 ip access-list extended secure2 deny tcp any any eq deny tcp any any eq 139 permit ip any any int ethernet0/0 ip access-group secure2 out ip access-group secure2 in exit wr ** Why is it that you need to deny TCP and permit IP? Or did I not do this right? Thanx, Anil Gupte Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36169t=36164 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLSM Question [7:35827]
Don't think of the Class C at allif you have a /25, that means that, of the 32 bits in the address, the most significant 25 represent the network address. Dotted decimal notation is for human convenience, nothing more. The address is a string of binary digits coming over the wire, and it is read as a string by the device. The most significant 25 of the string will be the network, the remaining 7 bits will be the specific host within that network. Having said all that-- Dotted decimal groups those 32 bits into 4 convenient sets of 8. A /25 means that the first 3 groups of 3 (for a total of 24) *plus the next bit* represent the network; the last 7 bits represent the host. Among the set of hosts which belong to any one of the /25 networks available, the first address is the network number, and the last address is the network's broadcast address. That's why you have 2^7 - 2 usable host addresses: 2^7 because you have 7 bits available; less 2 to account for the network address and broadcast address. Does that help? Annlee Hunt Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... As for VLSM, I found an example in Jeff Doyle (TCP/IP Vol 1) on p290 that I don't understand. 192.168.50.0 /25, and it states that the reason it has /25 is because it needs to have 100 hosts = so 2^7-2=126 hosts (as 2^6 would be too zmall), so it makes sense. What confuses me is that since 192.168.50.0 /25 is a Class C, it uses up /24 for subnet bits: And if /25 - /24 = /1 But isn't the way the calculate the number of subnet: 2^n-2, and in this case, 2^1-2 = 0, so does it mean it has no subnet? Also, as for host address, how can I derive Jeff's answer as the host range is 192.168.50.1-192.168.50.126? Thanks so much for your help in advance. Best Regards, Hunt Lee System Engineer WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35912t=35827 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Yes, but [7:34947]
I didn't mean to imply you have to dedicate an entire dlci to the VoIP--just that you designate a layer 2 connection by assigning the traffic to a circuit, vs. accepting a layer 3 routing. Annlee Rik Guyler wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Correct! -Original Message- From: Chris Charlebois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Yes, but [7:34947] VoFR is more effecient over frame relay links than VoIP. And VoFR does not require dedicated DLCI's, I beleive. You can run VoFR and data over the same FR link. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35159t=34947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do some TFTP sessions take a lot longer [7:35006]
One possibility might be TCP window size. There was a post here a *long* time ago about Internet access speeds with DSL and cble modems. The poster, without making any hardware changes, increased his download speeds by several times via a registry setting (I think it was RWIN or something of the sort, but I just don't recall). The point would be how much download do you get per ACK? FWIW Annlee Hines Ozzie Sutcliffe wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... When I do the TFTP lab in class.. I have 6 routers 6 PC and 6 Xover cables All have the same configs except for IP addy's Yet when the class pulls down the IOS the times for a 7 meg bin file vary from 4 to 15 minutes. The cables are all the same length same company who made them. The routers are all 1601's the pc's and NIC's the same all running windoze 98 SE. Ideas anyone ?? This week I will sniff each PC and see what that bring up . Ideas anyone ?? I will post the results next saturday Oz Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35040t=35006 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOipVoFR [7:34947]
Bear in mind, too, that with VoIP you get things from IP that you cannot from FR. Among them are the use of DSCP. With VoIP you may be using UDP and RTP for transport and reservations, whereas with FR you set up a dedicated circuit (dlci) for that traffic. HTH Annlee landcai wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, Gang, I have a small thing I am still clear about, even though I thought it over. what's the difference between VOip over frame Relay and VoFR? Does it mean that for Voip the voice is taken as the data regarded as layer 4 data, then encapsulated in layer 3 ip,then further be encapsulated as layer 2 frame relay frames. but for VoFR, the voice don't need to be encapsulated by layer 3 protocol, and directly passed to layer 2 frame Relay network? could you shed me light over it? I could not turn it over on my brain. Many thanks, __ === PB@KCb7Q5gWSSJOd (http://mail.sina.com.cn) PB@K7V@`PEO#:GaKI6)TD#,A?Im6(VF,:CPEO@4URDc! (http://classad.sina.com.cn/) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34960t=34947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: collissions and the bigger picture [7:34896]
The fragmentation process sounds much like ATM and the head-of-the-line blocking problem the cell size was intended to prevent. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34912t=34896 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Security certification [7:34904]
It requires 3 years of experience in security work--provable experience. The Common Body of Knowledge is extensive. I've seen a number of job ads that look for the cert, though I cannot say that they really needed someone with that level of knowledge. CISSP Certification Examination #8211; Applicant Requirements CISSP Certification candidates must meet the following requirements prior to taking the CISSP examination. Subscribe to the (ISC)2 Code of Ethics. Have at least 3 years of cumulative work experience in one or more of the ten test domains in information systems [IS] security. Valid experience includes information systems security-related work performed as a practitioner, auditor, consultant, vendor, investigator or instructor, or that which requires IS security knowledge and involves direct application of that knowledge. http://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?page=43 HTH Annlee Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34907t=34904 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Security certification [7:34904]
It requires 3 years of experience in security work--provable experience. The Common Body of Knowledge is extensive. I've seen a number of job ads that look for the cert, though I cannot say that they really needed someone with that level of knowledge. CISSP Certification Examination #8211; Applicant Requirements CISSP Certification candidates must meet the following requirements prior to taking the CISSP examination. Subscribe to the (ISC)2 Code of Ethics. Have at least 3 years of cumulative work experience in one or more of the ten test domains in information systems [IS] security. Valid experience includes information systems security-related work performed as a practitioner, auditor, consultant, vendor, investigator or instructor, or that which requires IS security knowledge and involves direct application of that knowledge. http://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?page=43 HTH Annlee Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34907t=34904 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice over ATM??
If you really want the CCIE for its own sake, you'll learn a lot of underlying technology--that's bloody useful--but you won't learn the Cisco-specific stuff for the CCIE (RS or WAN). Cisco's exams are quite focused on how Cisco does things. If you want the knowledge, if you want to play with the high horsepower toys on the backbone (and I see voice and data merging already, with ATM an excellent carrier for lots of reasons, starting with QoS), then go with the job offer. You will learn the material from another perspective, which will truly help if/when you come back to Cisco certifications. My $.02. Annlee Hines CCNA, CCDA, etc Systems Engineer Nortel Networks ""Niraj Palikhey"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, Could somebody advise me the value of working in a voice over atm environment? I am on my way to achive the CCIE certification(well, that's my ultimate certification goal). Presently, I am working towards my CCNP and have learnt a lot about Cisco routers and routing in general. I have an opportunity to work in a voice over atm environment. This is dealing with Nortel GSP switches connected to Passport switches which is connected to Lucent CBX 500 ATM switches. Will be part of the team that will build this ATM core backbone. They also have plans to route data(ip) over this ATM backbone possibly in the future. Since I will not really be dealing with Cisco routers but more so with those ATM switches and voice switches etc. is it worth it to work in this kind of environment, keeping in mind the CCIE certification? The pay is ok and I do understand any kind of ATM knowledge is good, but I have yet to pass my CCNP and work with routers in a larger scale and understand them better?? Would someone give me an honest advise? Thank you. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless Networks
I don't think it's fair to say wireless will be "the" network solution, any more than wired is now. Both will have a place. I would suggest tthat wireless' share of the market will grow, for a number of reasons. 1. American mobility--we like our information now, thank you very much 2. European preference--wireless is more popular in Europe, for a number of financial and technical reasons 3. Yu don't have to lay nearly as much wire/fiber to bring the developing world--and all its human capital--into working communication with the developed world, which has a human capital shortage. I have no doubt Cisco will be a significant player, as will a number of other companies. It is already an explosively growing global market. I would learn the underlying technology, even theory, as well as the specific manufacturer's product. As others have pointed out in this forum before, you can be be a router jockey with hands on; to be more, you must know more. Annlee ""m. jean stockton"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... are wireless the networks of the future? if so, how will cisco be prepared for it? mjs, ccna ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco ATM WAN URLs
A good place to start is at CCO, do a search on ATM. I found: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd2008.htm http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/atm.htm adding PVC to the search criteria turned up a bunch more, like PPP over ATM: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/120newft/120 limit/120dc/120dc3/pppoe.htm watch out for the wrap, of course Annlee "John lay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Guys, I need Cisco URLs concerning ATM WAN, which explain PVCs, Auto route, Thanks a lot ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where do live
Dallas is exploding--prices are moderate. Winter is mild (to someone who grew up in the Midwest) and the summers are hot but everyone lives inside A/C. Cisco's hiring 4000 more people in the next 4 years in Richardson (a suburb, Telecom Corridor)--and going head-to-head with Nortel, which is also hiring. Pay is obviously competitive. It's pretty durn good here. Annlee Hines Systems Engineer Global Data Readiness Nortel Networks "Jim Bond" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300 sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking moving out of silicon valley bay area. Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's difficult to find such a place, but close? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications
The NNCSS for the Passport 7000 was 100 question (plus #1 are you ready to take the test and #2 do you accept the NDA--total =102, 100 real questions). Some were multiple choice, some T/F--and those aren't necessarily easy (anything wrong makes it false, even if 9/10 of it is true). Radio button questions have only one answer, check boxes have 1 possible...but not necessarily 1 correct answer. There are no fill in the blank. Passing is 80. The question difficulty is more than MS, maybe a little less than the 2 Cisco exams I've sat (CCNA and CCDA). The questions were by and large straightforward, no subtle little tricky phrasings. Some questions require you to understand a topology diagram--what's wrong with the addressing scheme, why can't A communicate with B, etc. I can't think of any more general info--specifics are out of bounds, of course. HTH Annlee "John lay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry ! Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS. Number of questions, how long the exam is ... I am gonna take the eam very soon. Thanx ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPOA Question
What problem are you trying to solve? Is this a "general principles" kind of question or is there a specific network problem? Annlee ""Aaron Clary"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8lq6ii$on3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8lq6ii$on3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Anyone have ideas on PPOA in a DSL enviroment, with dynamic IP's , and authencation to a radius server any advice will be helpful! Thanks Aaron ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC 1577
I believe RFC 1577 has been obsoleted by RFC 2225. Try this: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2225.html and this: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/np.html HTH Annlee "yoo junsang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Does anybody Know that the catalyst 6500 series support RFC 1577(classical IP and ARP over ATM)? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems to solve, customers to satisfy
One last item, certainly implied by the final piece of step 1: 7) sell the result to management before you implement, lest they disprupt it part way through, leaving you (of course) to make the salvage operation work Annlee ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:v04220801b59783a11295@[63.216.127.98]... There are lots of posts on "how do I do something for my customer/organization," which, as such, are not the focus of this list. I propose we try to get them much more into the spirit of the list. The Cisco design methodology is a good place to start. True, someone with years of design experience knows when to break the rules. Indeed, my recommended basic methodology isn't exactly the Cisco sequence, although very close. I am far more willing to respond to a "how do I do this" query when someone systematically puts out how they have approached the subject, and where they are stuck. Believe me, this will help you learn. Also, it is an art to identify where you are stuck. In my approach, the basic steps are: 1. Define business requirements, security policy, budget, and executive perceptions of what is important. 2. Inventory the applications. Where are the clients and servers? What OS are they running? What do you know about application traffic patterns? Is there a service level agreement? What problems are perceived by the users? If possible, take benchmarks. 3a) Define a naming strategy and assign hosts to it. b) Define an IP addressing strategy, considering physical location, size of broadcast domains, needs for public address space, etc. Do NOT get stuck in allocating class A/B/C spaces; the world, outside the CCNA, is classless. If there is a network in place, take a baseline. c) Consider the layer 2 addressing scheme. Are there any needs for locally administered MAC addresses (e.g., SNA?) Do you know frame DLCIs, ATM NSAPs, etc.? If there are facilities in place, take baselines. d) Decide where you want to route and where you want to layer 2 switch. 4) Select the networking product features you need. Don't limit yourself to router/switch software alone if you have any control over the entire environment; it's often better to do things in application hosts or network management servers than to force everything into a router. 5) Select the hardware and media you will need to support the features and network. It's very likely you will bounce back and forth between steps 4 and 5, trading off hardware and media bandwidth against software. 6) Verify you have coherent migration, management, and benchmarking plans and tools. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: happy independence day
Thank you! It's hard to appreciate what you have until you've lived with something else for a bit. I hope Nigeria continues to improve...you have so very much potential. Best wishes. Annlee ""Oladele Ayuba"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm in Nigeria but I was really expecting to see a lot of Independence day posts! The same thing that happened to engineers in school (college) is happening to networkers. They get so engulfed by their work and miss out on the rest of the fun.. To all Americans happy independence day ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Could not create subinterfaces
I'm not in front of a router right now, so I may be wrong, but...I believe you need to be in interface config: 3102(config-if)#int s0.1 "Omer Shommo" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I tried to create a subinterface on s0 but i could not. Can any body tell me why? Thanks Omer 3102(config)#int s0.1 % Incomplete command. 3102#sh ru Building configuration... Current configuration: ! version 11.3 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname 3102 _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccie r/s written recommendations
start here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/rsblueprint.html CCO provides a wealth of info on all their exams. Once you wander around CCO you'll begin to get the hang of how to find things Annlee "Rahman, Abdul" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Greetings! Does anyone have some recommendations on how to prepare for the ccie written r/s examination. Thank you in advance. Best regards, abdul rahman A. Rahman, Ph.D. Product Engineer Digex, Inc. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best ATM resources
here's a start: http://www.atmforum.com/atmforum/library/ed_info.html also try this: http://www.itprc.com/datalink.htm both will get you going Annlee "Gary Alterson" wrote in message ... This is my third try for this post: -Original Message- From: Gary Alterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best ATM resources Hey group, I'm looking for the best resources to learn about ATM technology - both theory and practice. I'm not too concerned with the Cisco implementation of it. Which books and/or websites would be best? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Career Advice
I'll nibble at a couple of your questions. 1) Does it seem feasible for a reasonably disciplined home student to obtain CCNP within a year? Six months? Is it worthwhile, and again feasible, to pursue CCDA simultaneously (that is, will the material be related enough as to not distract from each other)? Yes, yes, and yes. To elaborate, CCDA piggybacks, in large part, off of the material for CCNA. You'll find some routing and switching (but less remote access) from CCNP in there as well. The key is that instead of focusing in on a portion of the network, CCDA examines the whole network from what may seem like a skewed point of view. Instead of just what-it-is, you're considering what-should-it-be, and then how do I get it there from here? The studies complemented each other for me. 2) Are there specific hardware units which are typically more conducive to my home study goal? Or should I just keep my eye out for used equipment and then evaluate the units as they become available. Up to a thousand dollars (U.S.) seems doable I picked up 2 OLD 31xx routers running 11.2(19) Enterprise for $1300, then a 2504 for another $650. The latter I got from here: http://www.dwc-computer.com/ I got a decent price and a good product. I chose my 3rd router by deciding the capabilities I wanted it to have, then going into CCO and looking at the 2500 product selection matrix. I think you're better off deciding what you want to be capable of doing, then spending your limited money on that, rather than taking pot luck from what's available on ebay, etc. Others may feel differently; of course, what matters is what you feel. 3) How best to enter the field. Join a large company, as an admin, with the necessary infrastructure and the hope of transferring to networking? How about Cisco themselves, do they ever take entry level personnel? Be open to many possibilities. I answered an ad for Nortel essentially on a lark, thinking I'd be ignored (at best ) for being Cisco. I start with Nortel Monday as a System Engineer on WAN switches. #4 I'm not qualified to address 5) Should I take the aforementioned contract job as admin or hold out for what I really want? I figure I can sit at home for a couple weeks more before going nuts. If you can hold out financially, I 'd recommend doing what feels right in your gut (sort of brings new meaning to the term "gut-check," I know). Whatever choice you make will affect things, maybe just for a short period of time, maybe longer. I can't say to be sure you don't have second thoughts, because we all do. But I would say to be sure that, given the same choice *with the same data set on which to make a choice*, you would do the same thing. With that, you should have no regrets, because you did the best you could. HTHat least a little Annlee Sammi wrote in message ... Hi all, I have my CCNA, CNA and MCP-TCP/IP. I've been in the industry for about 2.5 years mostly system admin. The situation at my contract house was conducive to my leaving and really putting forth the effort to start my new direction. I've been trying to get my foot in the door of network infrastructure but no dice, I was offered a job starting Monday if I could install routers solo but I hate making a fool of myself ;-) I'm not discouraged nor bitter but would like my plans evaluated by those in the know. I've been offered another contract admin position that is in 3 month increments. I figure I'll bite the bullet and continue in this role. I'll pick up some more hardware for a home lab (currently working half a dozen machines networked NT). With that equipment and a lot of books I'll pursue my CCNP. With that in mind, a few questions: 1) Does it seem feasible for a reasonably disciplined home student to obtain CCNP within a year? Six months? Is it worthwhile, and again feasible, to pursue CCDA simultaneously (that is, will the material be related enough as to not distract from each other)? 2) Are there specific hardware units which are typically more conducive to my home study goal? Or should I just keep my eye out for used equipment and then evaluate the units as they become available. Up to a thousand dollars (U.S.) seems doable. 3) How best to enter the field. Join a large company, as an admin, with the necessary infrastructure and the hope of transferring to networking? How about Cisco themselves, do they ever take entry level personnel? 4) Finally, and really reaching, say in one year I'm on the network team, achieved my real world experience and certification goals. From that point would it be reasonable to put a 5 year target on a shot at CCIE? Again assuming hands on work and home study. I know CCIE is tops and am wondering if those obtaining such are in the field 5 years, 10, etc. 5) Should I take the aforementioned contract job as admin or hold out for what I really want? I figure I can sit at home for a couple weeks more before going nuts. I realize all the questions can be subjective, just trying to set
Re: Paper Vs hands on
I agree with Oz and the others. I offer a couple of thoughts which you may or may not like... 1. Have you considered the armed forces? They're crying for people, especially those who can do technical things. I don't know your age, so that may be a factor--but give them a thought. The working conditions can be crummy (yes, I have been there and done that, but the t-shirt wore out). HOWEVER, if you show as much initiative in the service as you have so far, you could wind up with experience any employer would love after 4 years. You'd have a big change in your life. 2. Present yourself better. Look at your posting like an employer would--you're showing laziness (and God knows, I fight lazy all the time--but I do fight it) with your lack of capitalization and sloppy writing. You never know who's lurking--there could be someone on this board looking for your kind of drive. If it's not laziness it's a poor education (and businesses are not interested in teaching remedial communication skills). For all the geeky stuff people in this newsgroup do--and this place is about as geeky as it gets (and close to my idea of heaven)--the well-respected people here communicate well. Look at postings from any of the following people: Howard Berkowitz, Kent Hundley, Chuck Larrieu, Joe Martin, Priscilla Oppenheimer, etc (and I know I've left articulate people out). They take the time to capitalize, to use good grammar, to present their ideas well. You have shown tremendous drive for a better technical life up to now--don't cast doubt on it by creating a bad impression of the rest of your character. Best of luck! Annlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Let's talk about this for a minute or two, just to clear something that has been inside of me for a while, since i joined this group about a year ago I hear lots of you say " get experience", like it is somenthing you just go to the grocery store and buy it, if it was like that, i would gather as much money as i could, to buy the most i can. Take me for example, I have been parking cars for 7 years now at $ 7.50 an hour, In 1997, because i wanted to improve my way of life, i started buying and studying books, first I got my A+ cert, Then my MCP, right now i only need 2 electives to have the MCSE, then i got my Network+, then my CCNA, from the ccnp i passed the acrc and the cit, I bought all the cisco books for the ccnp, the ccda,ccdp,ccie, i even took the ccie written , of course i failed, but it is a good experience, and i think the acrc is a harder exam, but the ccie is a more broader exam. going back to the main topic, I started studying because nobody would hire me because i do not have neither the knowledge nor the experience that i needed, now I have, not all the knowledge but some, as far as the A+ goes i feel confident, i have asembled and sold over a few years maybe 100 computers, as far as my troubleshooting skills i feel more than good, as far as the rest goes, i have a small network at home, not with routers, because i cannot afford them, i have 4 workstations and 2 servers, so i practice a lot. Since i joined this group i hear you people talking about getting experience, about paper Vs hands on, AT first nobody hires you because you do not have the knowledge or the experience, then somehow you manage to get some knowledge, but then again, this time nobody hires you because you do not have the experience, and you people talk about it , the so much appreciated experience , like it is so easy to get I have posted my resume all over, willing to start with anything, but whoever calls, the first question is, Where have you worked before?, how long have your worked in the industry?, as soon as I tell them my experience is with a small network i have at home, they think for a minute or two, thet said i call you back, but they never do. I have spent Ks of dollars, and i am convinced that it is not worth , to keep spending more in the sense of trying to get a better life, it is almost impossible; in the sense of getting knowledge is a good thing to do, but up to certain limits. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Course objectives and books on ccnp 2.0..HELP
This really has been discussed several times in the last 2-3 months. Try the archives first. They're not always great, but trying them first does reduce the mail load--and many (if not most) of the people active with this list do it by mail. Try searching on CCNP and limit it to March and April--you'll get plenty of hits. I did. Annlee "sougata maitra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... anyone know where i can find the course objectives for all the four courses of ccnp2.0 and also if and what books are available / will be available on them. thanks in advance warm regards __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lab set up..
To a certain extent, budget will distate what you buy (unless you're better off than most of us). Try this company--they seem to do good stuff: http://www.dwc-computer.com/ email Conrad for Cisco gear. Annlee ""Brandon Peyton"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys I have finally saved up some more money and wanting to finally get a home lab instead of always going to work to practice. What different things should i get? 2 routers 26xx switch 1900 hub and the appropriate cables? or what would you suggest Course if you could direct me to the place that would have the best deals (not an auction site) for used cisco equipment that would determine what i can get as well... Thanks, Brandon ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 1.0 VS CCNP 2.0
You will be 1.0 if you do any of the 1.0 track. A 2.0 is all 2.0 exams. Annlee subramanian nallasivam wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi , I am planning to take ACRC this june. I have a small doubt. If I take ACRC this june and the rest of the other exam(CIT,CLSC,CMTD) after november will I get the certificate CCNP 2.0 or CCNP 1.0 Thanks in advance for the replies. -Subi, CCNA __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: after ccna?
I agree with Ed, except I plan to take the new Foundation (masochism strikes early and often). My main rationale is that I tend to compartmentalize information. After Exam X, the information for X is still there, but it tends to recede--takes a longer and longer directory path to find/fetch it. By studying for and taking the Foundation, I won't be able to do that--I'll have to keep it all up front and available. I'm also likely to integrate the info better, too. Do what works for YOU. Annlee CCDA, CCNA, MCSE "Edward Moss" wrote in message 8frmhd$e7f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I would look at Cisco Press Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and get your CCDA. There are several points that are built upon for the CCNP exams. Follow this up with Building Cisco Remote Acces Networks (BCRAN), Switching, Building Scalable Cisco Networks (BCSN) and then Support. In my mind, this is the logical progression at least it worked for me. Ed Moss, CCNP, CCDA "tayta" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8frfp2$m4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8frfp2$m4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... What is the logical exam to take after ccna? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSL in Dallas, Texas
I missed the last one due to (Air Force talk for bad planning). Chuck, here's a link: http://dfw.cisco-users.org/ Annlee ""Dale Cantrell"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Gang, After waiting a month for this test, that one, I'm scheduled for DSL June 1st. If I had my rathers, I would have gone a different route, but they are their lines. :) Are any of you people going to D/FW Cisco user monthly meetings in Addison? I live in G.P. Original Message Follows From: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DSL in Dallas, Texas Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:49:38 -0500 A little bit off the topic, but I need your help. Can anyone recommend a good and reliable DSL provider in Dallas, Texas? I would prefer NOT to go with Southwestern Bell nor to use any of their lines. Thanks and have a great weekend, Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSL in Dallas, Texas
First, be sure you actually have a DSL-capable line. Ours (in Plano) is ~3000 ft too far from the switch. Flashcom offered us sDSL at 128k up/128k down for $80/month. Not worth it. I have talked to clients who use SWBell--they like it. HTH--sorta. Annlee Ole Drews Jensen wrote in message 2019FB428FD3D311893700508B71EBFB134A4D@RWR_MAIL_SVR... A little bit off the topic, but I need your help. Can anyone recommend a good and reliable DSL provider in Dallas, Texas? I would prefer NOT to go with Southwestern Bell nor to use any of their lines. Thanks and have a great weekend, Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't find ciscopress errata any more
I have run into a few (possible) errors in the Cisco Press book I'm using for final DCN prep, so I went to my bookmark for the errata page and it appears they've rearranged everything. I tried to search on "errata" and got 0 hits. The new address seems to be: http://www2.ciscopress.com/catalog.cfm Does anybody know if they still have errata? Thank heaven I already got them for a couple of other books! TIA Annlee ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 1.0 vs. 2.0 and exam applicability
Correction: The CCNA 1.0 is fine for the CCNP 2.0--as long as all the CCNP exams are 2.0. From the FAQ: 10) I am CCNA 1.0 certified, may I continue to pursue CCNP 2.0 certification? Yes, you do not need to take the CCNA 2.0 exam for CCNP 2.0 certification. Also, see here (mind the wrap): http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.html ""Mark Harris"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8f84hu$ndd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8f84hu$ndd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Briefly, take a single 1.0 test including CCNA, you'll be CCNP 1.0. In order to be CCNP 2.0 all tests need to be 2.0. Although the 1.0 tests go obsolete on 7/31, Cisco will for sure allowsome perios of time after 7/31 (like a year) to retake any 1.0 tests with the equivelent 2.0 test to certify at 2.0. For example, take CCNA 1.0, ACRC 1.0 and the rest 2.0. Certified at 1.0 until you take the NA and ACRC 2.0 tests before say 7/31/01. You can also visit the Cisco site, follow the certification and training links and read the FAQ's This is pretty much explained there with the exception of a re-certification date. HTH Mark "Chris McCoy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 001301bfb96a$3b124bf0$dcd5c03f@buena">news:001301bfb96a$3b124bf0$dcd5c03f@buena... Hello all. I'm in a bind regarding Cisco's tests in the CCNP track. I just finished preparing for the ACRC test, my first for CCNP, and it looks like it will be obsolete in a couple of months! Will I have to take the Routing 2.0 test again to get CCNP 2.0 certified? Or will the older test roll over into the new track for credit? I plan on taking BCMSN and BCRAN and not even bother with the older tests. The FAQ isn't entirely clear on this. Any insight? Thanks, Chris McCoy
another free book!
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