RE: RE: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595]
Yes and I have done it all via the PIX Where you run into problems is when they use port 80. Rob Rob H Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, A+ LAN Engineer and Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom 469.420.2656 -Original Message- From: vikramjskeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595] Hi All, Very rightly said that these messengers use so many servers and so many ports that it's kind of impossible to block them all. But you can very easily do it, right on the OS level. I know about the Win2K that you can set up some system policies with which you can directly block these exes themselves. Hope it helps: Regards, Vikram Lidiya White wrote: Try to block the login servers: http://acronymsonline.com/im_ips.htm -- Lidiya White -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josh Green Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595] It is possible, however Messenger uses so many different ports on so many different servers that it's not worth your time. -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595] no. don't waste your time. Ahed Naimi wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... gt; Dear All; gt; gt; Is there any way to block MSN Messenger by using the access-list statements gt; on an IOS Cisco router. gt; gt; Thanks All. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57717t=57595 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ICQ and blocking the thing-PIX [7:52285]
So true but ICQ is using port 80, which kills me -Original Message- From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ICQ and blocking the thing-PIX [7:52285] Make sure that you carefully figure out the correct side of the connection. ICQ server runs on port 4000, and the client chooses a random high-numbered port. That means you will see UDP packets FROM (inbound/source) port 4000 going to the random port. In other words, don't go looking in a port database trying to figure what that random, high-numbered port means. The significant port is the source. HTH Bill Creighton CCNP Senior System Engineer Motorola iDEN CNRC Packet Data -Original Message- From: Mears, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ICQ and blocking the thing-PIX [7:52285] Hi Cisco gods, I have successfully blocked all chat services at the PIX firewall, I think. As I walk around and find people using MSN or Messenger I find that public proxy they are using and kill it too. BUT, I am having a hell of a time with ICQ. I do have all the ports UDP and TCP blocked so it does not work UNLESS they use port 80. This is where I am stuck, I cant block port 80 as you know so how do I kill this monster? Has any one had luck with this and has anyone found a way to stop the public proxy usage? I really feel as if I am fighting a losing battle, cuss for every block I am countered with a way around it. My inside ACL in the pix is quite impressive and all just for blocking this crap, if anyone would like it for theirs I will provide as it is proven and works, with exception to ICQ. HELP WANTED Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52606t=52285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ICQ and blocking the thing-PIX [7:52285]
Yep all steps you stated have been covered, but Employees will be employees. What can I say? -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ICQ and blocking the thing-PIX [7:52285] ICQ now has a web based version also, just go the web put in your ID and your on. Now being devils advocate I am aware of the trojans and viruses that get spread on ICQ, but if it is not interferring with work progress then why such the hassle. It seems as if your burning more cycles trying to block it when it almost seems to me that this is a loosing battle. The only recourse I think you have is to go to HR with your security plan have them put this in your computer ussage policy for work and then brief everyone of the employees why this is a no no. I have sniffed the web version with sniffer pro and it looks to me it strictly uses port 80. But just by blocking it and I do not know if you are notifying anyone or if this is in your security poilicy it just seems like you're a loose renegade on the network to implement your own security policy which will tick people off. I think if you take my approach above and people understand why your are doing it then it is less likely to turn whirlwinds into a hurricane of upset users especially if it was allowed in the past. NO BASHING please :) you may have took these steps already then if so the only thing to do is report them to HR especially if it is causing problems for you on the network and putting business assets at risk. -Original Message- From: Shawn Heisey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ICQ and blocking the thing-PIX [7:52285] I may be off my rocker, but I think it's possible that you could set up an IDS system that blocks access to any IP on the outside that sends packets to your network that look like ICQ. At the very least it could record the addresses for future inclusion into ACLs. This won't block the people who set up SSH tunnelling as described in other messages, but you can make it a violation of security policy to use that kind of back door. Thanks, Shawn Mears, Rob wrote: Hi Cisco gods, I have successfully blocked all chat services at the PIX firewall, I think. As I walk around and find people using MSN or Messenger I find that public proxy they are using and kill it too. BUT, I am having a hell of a time with ICQ. I do have all the ports UDP and TCP blocked so it does not work UNLESS they use port 80. This is where I am stuck, I cant block port 80 as you know so how do I kill this monster? Has any one had luck with this and has anyone found a way to stop the public proxy usage? I really feel as if I am fighting a losing battle, cuss for every block I am countered with a way around it. My inside ACL in the pix is quite impressive and all just for blocking this crap, if anyone would like it for theirs I will provide as it is proven and works, with exception to ICQ. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52607t=52285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ and blocking the thing-PIX [7:52285]
Hi Cisco gods, I have successfully blocked all chat services at the PIX firewall, I think. As I walk around and find people using MSN or Messenger I find that public proxy they are using and kill it too. BUT, I am having a hell of a time with ICQ. I do have all the ports UDP and TCP blocked so it does not work UNLESS they use port 80. This is where I am stuck, I cant block port 80 as you know so how do I kill this monster? Has any one had luck with this and has anyone found a way to stop the public proxy usage? I really feel as if I am fighting a losing battle, cuss for every block I am countered with a way around it. My inside ACL in the pix is quite impressive and all just for blocking this crap, if anyone would like it for theirs I will provide as it is proven and works, with exception to ICQ. HELP WANTED Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52285t=52285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netscreen and Cisco PIX [7:51294]
Hello, Anyone have a working config example from a Ntescreen that is doing VPN to a Pix ? Thanks Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51294t=51294 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013]
Very well Thanks Rob -Original Message- From: Roberts, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:25 PM To: Mears, Rob; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013] For aol just block access to the login servers. Login.oscar.aol.com ( it used to be this ) For Yahoo, it much more difficult, and time consuming. You will also inadvertanly block access to some portions of the yahoo website. I used a sniffer and my PC to see what servers that YIM logged into. I would block the one I connected to, and then restart the sniffer and the software. It took about 8 hours, but I managed to block YIM. Of course that was after they told me it couldn't be done :) Yahoo made a bad mistake telling me that. ICQ uses TCP 6667 If I remember correctly. Since I have only allowed certain traffic through the FW, It was already blocked. It takes time to get it figured out, but these programs CAN be blocked. If nothing else, just deny access to all of yahoo, but inserting a bad yahoo.com in your domain server! Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Mears, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013] Hello Cisco people We are using Web Sense to block most of the Sites that we feel necessary but have had problems with programs like AOL, MSN, ICQ chat programs. So I am going to stop this at the PIX and was wonder who out there had blocked Chat programs in the enterprise, and methods used. I fully understand the steps needed to block what is needed on the PIX but was wanting to hear horror storied or problems you might have encountered. I would also like to know what sites (address\protocols) you had to block to stop these programs because some are http based. (AIM, MSN,ect). For those of you who have applied rules to the inside interface of the pix, did you notice any performance issues or any other problem related to having all outbound traffic filtered? Thank you Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46194t=46013 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question about the 350 series AP [7:45971]
Mine has both -Original Message- From: Henry D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question about the 350 series AP [7:45971] Mine included everything. Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, Can someone confirm/deny that the 350 will only accept in-line power? Does it come with the in-line power injector, or is this a separate item? I have read everything I can and all points say it only has in-line power, but none say whether this is included ( I can't image it wouldn't be ) Thanks Larry Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46204t=45971 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013]
Cisco People This is how u block Messenger access on a PIX firewall and it works Some might ask why not just block all and permit the other, and this is the way I would like to do it one day, But to encounter the least amount of down time I chose to apply in this fashion. To block chat programs, simply use access-list on PIX. Some of the common chat programs use following ports **common chat ports** tcp 6667 (irc) 6660- 6670 (the default being 6667). tcp 6665-6669 (common IRC) tcp 5190 (aol) tcp 5190, dyn =1024 (aol ICQ) tcp/udp 5190-5193 (aol) tcp 1863 (msn) tcp/udp 4020 (ichat) tcp 5000-5001 and udp 5000-5010 (Yahoo voice chat) tcp 5050 (Yahoo messages) tcp 5100 (Yahoo Webcams) Below you can get the config for the pix access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any eq aol access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any eq 1024 access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any eq 1863 access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any eq 4020 access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any eq 5050 access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any eq 5100 access-list acl_inside deny udp any any eq 4020 access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any range 6665 6669 access-list acl_inside deny udp any any range 5190 5193 access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any range 6660 6670 access-list acl_inside deny tcp any any range 5000 5001 access-list acl_inside permit tcp any any Hope this helps someone Thanks Rob -Original Message- From: Mears, Rob Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013] Very well Thanks Rob -Original Message- From: Roberts, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:25 PM To: Mears, Rob; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013] For aol just block access to the login servers. Login.oscar.aol.com ( it used to be this ) For Yahoo, it much more difficult, and time consuming. You will also inadvertanly block access to some portions of the yahoo website. I used a sniffer and my PC to see what servers that YIM logged into. I would block the one I connected to, and then restart the sniffer and the software. It took about 8 hours, but I managed to block YIM. Of course that was after they told me it couldn't be done :) Yahoo made a bad mistake telling me that. ICQ uses TCP 6667 If I remember correctly. Since I have only allowed certain traffic through the FW, It was already blocked. It takes time to get it figured out, but these programs CAN be blocked. If nothing else, just deny access to all of yahoo, but inserting a bad yahoo.com in your domain server! Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Mears, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013] Hello Cisco people We are using Web Sense to block most of the Sites that we feel necessary but have had problems with programs like AOL, MSN, ICQ chat programs. So I am going to stop this at the PIX and was wonder who out there had blocked Chat programs in the enterprise, and methods used. I fully understand the steps needed to block what is needed on the PIX but was wanting to hear horror storied or problems you might have encountered. I would also like to know what sites (address\protocols) you had to block to stop these programs because some are http based. (AIM, MSN,ect). For those of you who have applied rules to the inside interface of the pix, did you notice any performance issues or any other problem related to having all outbound traffic filtered? Thank you Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46207t=46013 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX525\Web Sense and Chat programs [7:46013]
Hello Cisco people We are using Web Sense to block most of the Sites that we feel necessary but have had problems with programs like AOL, MSN, ICQ chat programs. So I am going to stop this at the PIX and was wonder who out there had blocked Chat programs in the enterprise, and methods used. I fully understand the steps needed to block what is needed on the PIX but was wanting to hear horror storied or problems you might have encountered. I would also like to know what sites (address\protocols) you had to block to stop these programs because some are http based. (AIM, MSN,ect). For those of you who have applied rules to the inside interface of the pix, did you notice any performance issues or any other problem related to having all outbound traffic filtered? Thank you Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46013t=46013 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]
The statement NAT and GLOBAL is used for inside to outside communication. STATIC is used for outside to inside communication. No longer holds true but it is a good rule to keep you straight. Check out ios PIX 6.2, they have removed the rules as we know it. You can now do a satatic (outside,inside)or a nat 1 (outside) x.x.x.x Cool stuff Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom.com -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676] NAT and GLOBAL is used for inside to outside communication. STATIC is used for outside to inside communication. Since the device(s) we're talking about seems to be a server/service of some kind located on your inside network, you use the NAT 0 to let the server communicate outbound with the same (unNATed) IP address, and you use STATIC with the same IP for global and local so outside clients can access the services running on the server. Hth, Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~ Need a Job? http://www.OleDrews.com/job ~ -Original Message- From: Karagozian Sarkis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676] Thanks Ole, I just noticed the nat 0 Here is how this old PIX is configured: nat (inside) 0 216.119.xx.0 255.255.255.0 0 0 static (inside,outside) 216.119.xx.0 216.119.xx.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 0 0 -- why same IP for both?? static (websvers,oustide) 216.119.xx.240 216.119.xx.240 netmask 255.255.255.240 0 0 --- also same IP for both ?? Can u explain. more... Thanks Sarkis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45700t=45676 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX information [7:35294]
Any changes you make to the Pri PIX will be written to the SEC, no need to day anything. Good Idea to move the sec and do a Wr M Rob -Original Message- From: Evans, TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX information [7:35294] I believe it sync's them auto-magically, or perhaps on a timed basis. Regardless ... I always do a wr standby ... just to be sure. Thanks! TJ -Original Message- From: Hartnell, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: PIX information [7:35294] AND, am I to understand correctly, as the manual is quite vague, that an upgrade of the primary failover unit also updates the secondary? Or, must the hapless administrator do each individually? Best, G. -Original Message- From: Jose Celestino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PIX information [7:35294] PIX-FW1# copy ? usage: copy tftp[:[[//location][/pathname]]] flash For instance: copy tftp://192.168.2.2/configs/pix.cfg flash Thus spake BASSOLE Rock, on Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0500: Hello group, What command can I use to copy a configuraton form a tftp server to a PIX Firewall? I have look on the cisco web site for the command but couldn't find. Can somebody help. Thank you. Rock -- Jose Celestino - Little prigs and three-quarter madmen may have the conceit that the laws of nature are constantly broken for their sakes. -- Friedrich Nietzsche * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36117t=35294 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CIT Test [7:34856]
This test was not the hardest, maybe the 2nd hardest. You better study though. Use the Transcenders, they come close to crossing the line as far as the NDA goes. -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CIT Test [7:34856] It sounds to me like everyone agree to it being either the easiest or hardest - so it probably won't help answering Joshua's answer very well. And Joshua, I can strongly recommend Priscilla's flash cards - they helped me pass the test; Thanks again for that Priscilla. Good luck on your exam, and have a great weekend, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CIT Test [7:34856] CIT was by the far the easiest for me. I took the Foundation exam before that and it was much more challenging. Do you know about my CIT flash cards, just for fun? The URL is: http://www.priscilla.com/cit/toc.html Good luck. I think you will pass. Priscilla At 11:46 AM 2/8/02, Joshua Barnes wrote: I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday, I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest test, did you also feel it was equally hard to study for? I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that this part comes natural to me. I certainly don't want to underestimate the test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this. Let me know if you guys remember how you felt. [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35298t=34856 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34752]
You go! Feel the FORCE Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, A+ Valor Telecom LAN\WAN Engineer Technical Mercenary -Original Message- From: Ranma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34752] 640-900 should be a easy task Mears, Rob wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello all I just finished the 640-900 exam yesterday for the CCIP cert, and it is a bitch!. If any one has any qiestion, I will take them off line, just email me. I am getting ready to take my CID exam, any advice? Thanks Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34841t=34752 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34752]
Hello all I just finished the 640-900 exam yesterday for the CCIP cert, and it is a bitch!. If any one has any qiestion, I will take them off line, just email me. I am getting ready to take my CID exam, any advice? Thanks Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34752t=34752 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34753]
Hello all I just finished the 640-900 exam yesterday for the CCIP cert, and it is a bitch!. If any one has any question, I will take them off line, just email me. I am getting ready to take my CID exam, any advice? Thanks Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34753t=34753 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]
Here is one for you. I get up @ 0430, thats in the AM and study until i go to work, study @ lunch and then study @ night. I need a life Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634] For me, my optimal study time was during my lunch break at work. I'd scarf a sandwich and spend 45 minutes completely distraction free sitting in my car in the parking lot. That 45 minutes 5 days a week is more effective than 2 hours a day trying to work on the lab with the kid, wife, honey-do's, tv and dog all vying for my attention. Note, do not become so engrossed in what you are reading that you sit in the car with the windows rolled up and cook yourself like a thanksgiving turkey. I think you're potentially describing an infinite loop, which, admittedly, might be a good troubleshooting scenario. If the sandwich you are scarfing is leftover Thanksgiving turkey, but the weather conditions exist to roast you like a turkey... Maybe it isn't a loop. It might be an infinite recursion or just the formation of a black hole. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34780t=34634 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34752]
I used the stuff for the Routing exam and then the RFC for IS IS. Good luck finding info on Cisco site. The two test are the same except for the ISIS, compare on Cisco web page. Advice? Study your Ars off! They take no prisoners Thanks Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+ Technical Mercenary -Original Message- From: Tim Medley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:33 AM To: 'Mears, Rob' Subject: RE: Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34752] I'm getting ready to take the 640-900 exam. What did you use to study/prepare with. What kind of advice do you have for taking the test. tim Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP Sr. Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld p 704.943.3615 f 704.525.9119 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mears, Rob Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34752] Hello all I just finished the 640-900 exam yesterday for the CCIP cert, and it is a bitch!. If any one has any qiestion, I will take them off line, just email me. I am getting ready to take my CID exam, any advice? Thanks Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34781t=34752 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF or EIGRP [7:28966]
Hi All, To your question; we are, as all should be, a pure IP and Cisco shop (:. As to why we originally went Eigrp, who knows it was before my time but I would guess Cisco had some influence on it, but now we are growing and plan, no not plan but have bought the routers\switches for 400 locations and will be deploying @ the beginning of the year. I know EIGRP will scale well and will handle our growth for the time being. As my research points, we will be good with EIGRP for a long time and the differences I found between the two are really nominal. But since the network we are rolling out is in parallel to the present, we do not have to worry about the migration part, so we have the opportunity to do it right and impress people long after I am gone. So correct me where I am wrong and please show me the light OSPF or EIGRP. Thanks Rob -Original Message- From: Gregg Malcolm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OSPF or EIGRP [7:28966] Rob, Few questions. What routed protocols you plan to run? Just IP or IP/IPX/AT,etc.? Any other vendor equipment other than cisco? Firewalls running OSPF for failover? Why did you initially choose EIGRP? Does the network design lend itself well to a backbone area? Redundant links (including DDR) ? I think if you can answer some of these questions, it will help the group give you a better response. Gregg Mears, Rob wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, We are in the middle of building out a new ATM network for the Core and on the outside we are going to be running about 80 3640 or 2600. We are in a big debate about the routing protocol, we are currently EIGRP. I have collected lots of info off Cisco's Web site about the two but wanted to hear it from the Engineers in the trenches. What's your take on it? If it were you what would you run (EIGRP, OSPF) and why? Thanks Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29105t=28966 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF or EIGRP [7:28966]
Hi all, We are in the middle of building out a new ATM network for the Core and on the outside we are going to be running about 80 3640 or 2600. We are in a big debate about the routing protocol, we are currently EIGRP. I have collected lots of info off Cisco's Web site about the two but wanted to hear it from the Engineers in the trenches. What's your take on it? If it were you what would you run (EIGRP, OSPF) and why? Thanks Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28966t=28966 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Which IOS's support DSL? [7:18034]
Use Cisco web site for info like this. Feel the Force. c2600-is56i-mz.121-5.YB2 This works Rob Thank you, Rob Mears III, CCNA, MSCE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom -Original Message- From: Matthew Wilkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which IOS's support DSL? [7:18034] I have a 2600 witha DSL WIC and none of the newer IOS's I have install recognise the card. This is simply pluggd directly into the phone system, it is used in a home. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=18424t=18034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BMC Patrol [7:17794]
It not BMC patrol that is the question but Patrol DashBoard and Patrol Visualis, any word??? Thanks Thank you, Rob Mears III, CCNA, MSCE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom -Original Message- From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BMC Patrol [7:17794] BMC patrol was used at the last company I worked at, an ISP based in the Netherlands, it wasn't a project I was working on, as it was used to monitor the applications and not the network but if you want to email me offline then send you the company's details so you can get some info or dirt on it cheers Pat 350mhz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Cisco Geeks, We are evaluating a new product from BMC called Patrol DashBoard and Patrol Visualis. I am told by the Sales Geeks that this product is fairly new; therefore it's been rough getting feed back. So I turn to you. What is the word? Who has used it, what are the Pro and Cons? Is this company worth dealing with? They are cutting us a good deal and the CIO is about to go for it unless I can dig up some dirt. Thank Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17934t=17794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VPN from 2600 routers to PIX 525 Question [7:17700]
I am looking for someone who is running VPN's between 2621 routers and PIX 525 on IOS 6.0 to campare notes with. How are they working for You? Thanks Thank you, Rob Mears III, CCNA, MSCE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17700t=17700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3660 router-----Finished [7:12135]
Greeting to all, This problem proved to be a real bitch, and I thank you for all the advice. Here is the fix, and I am almost ashamed to say, but I want to pass this on so none of you all fall into the same trap as I did. As I said, in one post before, I kept getting the same error messages even after TAC sent me new memory and a new router. The 3rd TAC engineer was the charm, because he asked me if this was a TELCO version of the 3660. That was a real good question cuss I had no idea, as I have never worked on one. Well, that was the problem, it takes a TELCO FEATURE SET IOS. One telltail clue is that their is not a plastic front on the Telco version. I saw this right off the bat, but thought Cisco had just redesigned it. Man what a day. The other way to see if the router is an Enterprise version or Telco is to run the SN numbers. I can think off all the times i do this before I install an IOS. Maybe i should. Good news is I got it fixed and got a new Router out of the deal (thanks you TAC). And as TAC goes, they have pulled my Butt out of the sling more then once, so I have nothing but good to say for them. Yes I have gotten some DORKS before, but I have the option to tell them to get lost and give me a new Engineer. We pay a lot for this service. Hope this has been as educational for you all as it has been for me. Look below at link for the difference in the two. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/3600/prodlit/36kmp_ds.htm -Original Message- From: Charlie Hartwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 9:15 AM To: Mears, Rob Subject: Re: 3660 router [7:11917] Hi Rob, I didn't want to send this out to the whole group but I sympathise with your problem - I used to work on TAC and I see this sort of thing happening more and more. Unfortunately TAC have a new policy of employing people without much real technical experience (even pre-CCNA level people) and they put them on the bread and butter TAC teams to break them in. It will be one of those teams dealing with your problem - probably euro-config. I know a lot of those guys and, although they all work hard, they don't have the experience to deal with a case that gets over complicated. If you have had an RMA already and you are still no nearer to solving the problem then the next step is to have the case escalated. I expect this case has been going on for a few days already and has probably passed the P3 SLA so the TAC can escalate to a more technical team to get you a speedy fix. I hope this helps and I would appreciate it if you kept this under your hat. Regards Charlie --- Mears, Rob wrote: Any one ever had a problem loading IOS on a 3660 right out of the box? I have one with 64meg flash and 256 ram and the damn thing will not come out of RMMON. I have set the confreg to boot correctly still RMMON. I have flashed it with two different IOS (12112.2), swapped out Flash, MEM, even sent the chassis back to Cisco and the new one had the same problem. TAC has no clue, they have been sending me part and giving me to different Engineer with no luck. What gives? Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12135t=12135 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3660 router-----Finished [7:12135]
that is! that's the one. Damn Telco stuff. You know it was said if they were to burn (Telco Routers), it would not put off toxic fumes (no plastic an telco requirment) . I looked around the CO and wondered about the billions little blue and white analog wires we have form ceiling to floor and wondered what's the point. Smoke from the router won't kill me, but the plastic from the wires will. Man rob -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135] Uhh, they do! c3660-telcoent-mz.121-5.T9.bin -Original Message- From: Bob Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135] Telco requirements are quite strict There are Bellcore standards that are used at all central offices. It has nothing to do with the goverment but will Bell ensurring that any third party equipment will: 1) Fit in telco racks 2) No physically interfer with other equipment in telco racks 3) Not add to the fire load 4) Not cause any undue electrical problems (NEBS grounding, etc) It's all really for infrastructure protection Too bad they didn't have a Telco version of the IOS. Bob -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 3660 router-Finished [7:12135] This brings up a point: why is there a telco version in the first place? What are these telco requirements and why are they there? I've been hearing little snippets about this but I don't know the details. From what I've read so far, it sounds like some government agency had too much time on its hands and felt like being even more intrusive than usual. Who cares if there is a plastic cover or not? Who cares if the rack is 19 or 24 wide? Who cares if the equipment is more than 12 deep? Someone please explain this to me, and please tell me there are good reasons for these requirements. Otherwise, it will just annoy me and ruin my day. ;-) Besides, I have a feeling I'll be running into situations where equipment that I provision has to meet these requirements so I might as well know what they are, right? Thanks, John (who is just starting his 2nd cup of coffee...be gentle.) Mears, Rob 7/12/01 8:55:12 AM Greeting to all, This problem proved to be a real bitch, and I thank you for all the advice. Here is the fix, and I am almost ashamed to say, but I want to pass this on so none of you all fall into the same trap as I did. As I said, in one post before, I kept getting the same error messages even after TAC sent me new memory and a new router. The 3rd TAC engineer was the charm, because he asked me if this was a TELCO version of the 3660. That was a real good question cuss I had no idea, as I have never worked on one. Well, that was the problem, it takes a TELCO FEATURE SET IOS. One telltail clue is that their is not a plastic front on the Telco version. I saw this right off the bat, but thought Cisco had just redesigned it. Man what a day. The other way to see if the router is an Enterprise version or Telco is to run the SN numbers. I can think off all the times i do this before I install an IOS. Maybe i should. Good news is I got it fixed and got a new Router out of the deal (thanks you TAC). And as TAC goes, they have pulled my Butt out of the sling more then once, so I have nothing but good to say for them. Yes I have gotten some DORKS before, but I have the option to tell them to get lost and give me a new Engineer. We pay a lot for this service. Hope this has been as educational for you all as it has been for me. Look below at link for the difference in the two. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/3600/prodlit/36kmp_ds.htm -Original Message- From: Charlie Hartwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 9:15 AM To: Mears, Rob Subject: Re: 3660 router [7:11917] Hi Rob, I didn't want to send this out to the whole group but I sympathise with your problem - I used to work on TAC and I see this sort of thing happening more and more. Unfortunately TAC have a new policy of employing people without much real technical experience (even pre-CCNA level people) and they put them on the bread and butter TAC teams to break them in. It will be one of those teams dealing with your problem - probably euro-config. I know a lot of those guys and, although they all work hard, they don't have the experience to deal with a case that gets over complicated. If you have had an RMA already and you are still no nearer to solving the problem then the next step is to have the case escalated. I expect this case has been going on for a few days already and has probably passed the P3 SLA so the TAC can escalate to a more technical team to get you a speedy fix. I hope this helps and I would
3660 router [7:11917]
Any one ever had a problem loading IOS on a 3660 right out of the box? I have one with 64meg flash and 256 ram and the damn thing will not come out of RMMON. I have set the confreg to boot correctly still RMMON. I have flashed it with two different IOS (12112.2), swapped out Flash, MEM, even sent the chassis back to Cisco and the new one had the same problem. TAC has no clue, they have been sending me part and giving me to different Engineer with no luck. What gives? Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11917t=11917 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3660 router [7:11917]
You can flash it via Xmodem -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 3660 router [7:11917] open up hyperterm, connect to console, log the session, flick the power switch, and let it drop into ROMMON. then you need to post the text file IN LINE with your next email. THEN we can help you. -Original Message- From: Mears, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3660 router [7:11917] Any one ever had a problem loading IOS on a 3660 right out of the box? I have one with 64meg flash and 256 ram and the damn thing will not come out of RMMON. I have set the confreg to boot correctly still RMMON. I have flashed it with two different IOS (12112.2), swapped out Flash, MEM, even sent the chassis back to Cisco and the new one had the same problem. TAC has no clue, they have been sending me part and giving me to different Engineer with no luck. What gives? Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11948t=11917 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3660 router [7:11917]
I hope u can help. With the message below it would appear the it has bad mem, but I replace it. I got this error message on both router, the old and the new. The only thing that was left in common was the IOS so I got a different version and still the same problem. Here is the error message WARNING: All existing data in flash will be lost! Invoke this application only for disaster recovery. Do you wish to continue? y/n [n]: y Ready to receive file c3660-jk8s-mz.122-1b.bin ... Erasing flash at 0x3000sector erase failed at location 0x3000, status 0x 20202020 flash sector will NOT erase...aborting rommon 2 -Original Message- From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 3660 router [7:11917] open up hyperterm, connect to console, log the session, flick the power switch, and let it drop into ROMMON. then you need to post the text file IN LINE with your next email. THEN we can help you. -Original Message- From: Mears, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3660 router [7:11917] Any one ever had a problem loading IOS on a 3660 right out of the box? I have one with 64meg flash and 256 ram and the damn thing will not come out of RMMON. I have set the confreg to boot correctly still RMMON. I have flashed it with two different IOS (12112.2), swapped out Flash, MEM, even sent the chassis back to Cisco and the new one had the same problem. TAC has no clue, they have been sending me part and giving me to different Engineer with no luck. What gives? Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11950t=11917 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX 5.25 ftp Passive-non Passive [7:10306]
Question for the gods, We have a requirement to retrieve data from a client's FTP server which is not Passive in natures, meaning it does not support. My pix box has no problems getting to FTP sites that support Passive mode. I am 90% sure the problem is with the client and not me. I have researched this and have found, in order to allow my users to the FTP I would have to open a range of ports on the Fwall. Has anyone run into this and does anyone have a easy fix? I am about to tell the client to (##$%^) just submit and upgrade their FTP but who knows how long this will take. How about some help. Thanks Thank you, Rob Mears III, CCNA, MSCE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10306t=10306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6762]
Hi, we are running ADSL at our ROBO around the US, we also use a VPN to get them back to HQ. I will include a config that might help. This is a 2621 router Thank you, Rob Mears III, CCNA, MSCE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, A+ Technical Mercenary Valor Telecom ** version 12.1 no service single-slot-reload-enable service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname Amardsl001 ! logging rate-limit console 10 except errors enable secret 5 $1$Onlr$fH2gcC0tDCI9hEpkC2/Nq. ! ! ! memory-size iomem 10 ip subnet-zero ! ! no ip finger ip name-server XXX.XXX.1.8 ! no ip dhcp-client network-discovery no mgcp timer receive-rtcp ! ! crypto isakmp policy 1 hash md5 authentication pre-share crypto isakmp key X address XXX.XXX.37.5 ! ! crypto ipsec transform-set rtpset esp-des esp-md5-hmac ! crypto map rtp local-address BVI1 crypto map rtp 1 ipsec-isakmp set peer XXX.XXX.37.5 set security-association lifetime seconds 28800 set transform-set rtpset match address amarillo ! call rsvp-sync ! ! ! ! ! bridge irb ! ! ! ! interface FastEthernet0/0 ip address XXX.XXX.102.1 255.255.255.224 ip helper-address XXX.xX.6.31 ip nat inside no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache duplex auto speed auto ! interface ATM0/1 description ADSL SWB XXX-3xxx-1600 Trouble 800-net-help no ip address no ip mroute-cache atm vc-per-vp 256 no atm ilmi-keepalive pvc 0/35 encapsulation aal5snap ! bundle-enable dsl operating-mode auto no fair-queue bridge-group 1 hold-queue 224 in ! interface FastEthernet0/1 no ip address shutdown duplex auto speed auto ! interface BVI1 ip address XXX.XXX.XXX.49 255.255.255.248 ip nat outside no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache crypto map rtp ! ip nat pool Net-XXX.xxX.218.126.50 XXX.xXX.126.50 netmask 255.255.255.248 ip nat inside source route-map nonat pool Net-64 overload ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 xxx no ip http server ! ! ip access-list extended amarillo permit ip x permit ip x permit ip x logging 10.x access-list 1 permit xxx access-list 120 deny ip xxx access-list 120 permit ip xxx ! ! route-map nonat permit 10 match ip address 120 ! snmp-server community RO snmp-server community RW snmp-server packetsize 4096 bridge 1 protocol ieee bridge 1 route ip ! dial-peer cor custom ! ! ! ! ! line con 0 transport input none line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password xxx login ! no scheduler allocate end Amardsl001# -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6756] I use a 827 router. This will go step by step to config one. You need CCO. http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/794/827_faq.html Steve -Original Message- From: Leo Shen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Could someone give me an example config of adsl+router? [7:6732] it neednot dial,thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6762t=6762 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]