RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]
It means file - in the waste bin - and forget them, at least that's how my company treats such people, because they are claiming to be something they are not, however you dress it up -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: 22 February 2002 18:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36324t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
Exactly Wessex Mail wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It means file - in the waste bin - and forget them, at least that's how my company treats such people, because they are claiming to be something they are not, however you dress it up -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: 22 February 2002 18:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36338t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Question [7:36243]
I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36243t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]
I would quess that means that person has passed the CCIE Qualification Exam, or the written portion of the certification. He or she is presumably studying/preparing for the lab exam. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36246t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
it means they only passed the qualification exam. they should not be putting CCIE on their resume at all Brian Zeitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36244t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36253t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
Hehehe... just like some folks that I've seen saying that they are CCNP 1/4 or 2/4... u can do the math :) - Original Message - From: Chris Charlebois To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: RE: CCIE Question [7:36243] I would quess that means that person has passed the CCIE Qualification Exam, or the written portion of the certification. He or she is presumably studying/preparing for the lab exam. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36255t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36256t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
I never meant to imply that you supported the practice. I should have said that some people treat this as a common practice, not that you were one of those people. - Original Message - From: Michael J. Doherty To: nrf ; Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] Never said that I agreed with the practice. I am perfectly well aware of Cisco's stance on the subject. My message, also, did not state that I thought that it is not a big deal. Personally, if I were in a position responsible for hiring, all candidates who posted that information in their resume would automatically find themselves removed from consideration. I am proud of my own accomplishments and all of the initials that I can place behind my name are placed with the full knowledge that I have the score sheets and experience to back them up. Sincerely, Michael J. Doherty MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, CCNA Certified, CCDA Certified, NREMT-P and many others that do not have initials. - Original Message - From: nrf To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36265t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]
That's ok, because I'm the President of the United States (F-MLN) (Future-Most Likely Not ) :) Larry -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36263t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
Never said that I agreed with the practice. I am perfectly well aware of Cisco's stance on the subject. My message, also, did not state that I thought that it is not a big deal. Personally, if I were in a position responsible for hiring, all candidates who posted that information in their resume would automatically find themselves removed from consideration. I am proud of my own accomplishments and all of the initials that I can place behind my name are placed with the full knowledge that I have the score sheets and experience to back them up. Sincerely, Michael J. Doherty MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, CCNA Certified, CCDA Certified, NREMT-P and many others that do not have initials. - Original Message - From: nrf To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36262t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
guys should keep in mind: No there is no CCIE Q or written cert. Cisco has identified you as a lab candidate. This applies to everyone on the planet. You have been invited to take the lab, if you pass the written and after that date you are still a CCIE candidate just like everyone elso on the planet. Just because you are a CCNP w/a specialization or not. you are not invited! Next there is the financial aspect for corporations (the smart one). CCIE's are expensive salaries are easily $120,000/yr plus. But, if I can get a guy just before he passes lab but after he has passed his written, I know that he is trying and his knowledge will continue to increase. I then close to lab time have a CCIE on staff, working for pennies. And I have first crack at a offer. So, thanks to the demand for CCIE's the CCIE written as you have been identified has had a little weight, not taking into account the present economy. Now there have been job posting for CCIE written, candidates, Qualification exam people. And if you feel confident enough to wear that title put what they are looking for on the resume. Now CCNP whatevers have not been identified as such by anyone on the planet. Finally it comes down to this Do you have a number behind those letters? nrf wrote: Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36277t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
Inline Tshon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... guys should keep in mind: No there is no CCIE Q or written cert. Cisco has identified you as a lab candidate. This applies to everyone on the planet. You have been invited to take the lab, if you pass the written and after that date you are still a CCIE candidate just like everyone elso on the planet. Just because you are a CCNP w/a specialization or not. you are not invited! Next there is the financial aspect for corporations (the smart one). CCIE's are expensive salaries are easily $120,000/yr plus. Maybe in 1999. Not anymore. But, if I can get a guy just before he passes lab but after he has passed his written, I know that he is trying and his knowledge will continue to increase. I then close to lab time have a CCIE on staff, working for pennies. And I have first crack at a offer. If he passes, which is no sure thing. So, thanks to the demand for CCIE's the CCIE written as you have been identified has had a little weight, not taking into account the present economy. Sure, but I think to be more relevant you do indeed have to take account of the present economy. Now there have been job posting for CCIE written, candidates, Qualification exam people. And if you feel confident enough to wear that title put what they are looking for on the resume. Now CCNP whatevers have not been identified as such by anyone on the planet. Finally it comes down to this Do you have a number behind those letters? nrf wrote: Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36282t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
I don't think employers are being fooled by somebody putting CCIE-Q on their resume. I can see a person getting into a tight spot, though, if they fraudulently try to pass themselves off as having passed the CCIE. After all, a company can just check with Cisco to make sure that a person is certified. The penalty for this infraction would be a rescinded job offer. I personally have put the phrase CCIE candidate on my resume. I am currently unemployed (Lucent shut our facility down here in Raleigh) and actively seeking employment. I have put that phrase on my resume to let employers know that, although I am out of work, I am not sitting around twittling my thumbs waiting for a job to fall out of the sky. In addition, it will create a scenario where interviewers will ask my about my networking knowledge. My full-time job right now is studying for the CCIE. My lab exam is on May 2nd. Hope I pass it!!! :-) nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a CCIE-Q cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a CCIE-A, because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a CCIE-F for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. Michael J. Doherty wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet challenged/passed the Lab. As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until I can honestly claim the entire title. - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36290t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]
Oh I am not a recruiter, I just read something on the net. Can I put CCNP(q) when/if I pass my routing exam. Ha ha, just kidding! I know there is a few kinds of CCIE, Security, and SR. Though maybe the (Q) was for QOS. Nevermind :) -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:57 PM To: Brian Zeitz Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] it means they only passed the qualification exam. they should not be putting CCIE on their resume at all. toss it! :) thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net 22 1-Day Lab Scenarios Now Shipping: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html Voice: 248-299-7789 FAX: 509-271-9288 - Original Message - From: Brian Zeitz Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] I saw a resume with CCIE (Q) after their name, what is the Q mean? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36245t=36243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
