Re: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
Thanks so much for the info. It's amazing what Cisco says will be valid topics for the exam and what exactly comes in the real exam!! I wonder why Cisco does not even mention the topics in their web-site. So I gather that IPX, AT, Windows, X.25 will be covered in the exam? From: tu do Reply-To: tu do To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479] Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:10:23 GMT Hi Cisco Nuts, IPX AppleTalk Windows Networking SNA X.25 Stratacom Switches The topics I didn't see in Exam (12/2002)were SNA and Stratacom Switches. Regards, misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72615t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
Chuck, Thanks for the useful info. Question for you: Why does Cisco does this? Is it just to screw us, seriously? :- If you have checked out Cisco's web site for the CCDP exam topics, IPX, AT, Windows Networking, X.25, SNA and Stratacom switches are NOT mentioned at all. But someone else who took the same exam on 12/2002 just pointed out that everything else but SNA and Stratacom switches were covered on the exam. I wonder if Cisco just published a new exam topics on their web-site. They do mention HSRP, IRB, Spanning-Tree, Vlans, BPDU's etc. etc which I don't see being covered in the CID book.?? I am confused!! All I am using in the CID book by M. Birkerner. I wonder if this will suffice. Sincerely. From: Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter Reply-To: Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479] Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:48:30 GMT if it's any help, the CCDP recert exam pretty much followed right along the published exam topics. I don't recall being surprised by anything I saw. As for the CID itself, I took the 3.0 exam several years ago and the only real gripe I had about it was the stratecom stuff, which was not included in the course materials. It took me two tries to pass, but mainly because I didn't treat the LAN protocols seriously the first time through. If recent experience is worth anything, the published exam topics are probably the best place to start. For both my CCNP and CCDP recerts, I found that a couple of years of reading and hands on as part of CCIE Lab prep were all that was necessary ;- Cisco Nuts wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Sorry, If this is another request but Are any of the following topics covered under the CID 640-025 exam? The exam is still valid for upto 45 days after July 25th, I think? IPX AppleTalk Windows Networking SNA X.25 Stratacom Switches These topics are not listed under: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-025.html Anyone? Thank you. Sincerely. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72616t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
Cisconuts, But someone else who took the same exam on 12/2002 just pointed out that everything else but SNA and Stratacom switches were covered on the exam. Sorry for my English, second language! I did not mean to scare you that I got other topics. What I really mean is: As the Cisco guideline for 640-025 does not mention the topics, I didnot get SNA, Stratacom. And, since I took the exam longer than half year ago, I do not remember exactly so I can tell you I didnot get hit by IPX, AT, Windows Networking, X.25 neither. I would say: no! In my memory about that exam: I like this Exam better than 640-441. Even it was a long exam, the questions were straighforward and topics mostly fitted as posted in guideline. Goodluck, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72644t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
Dear Cisco Nuts, Okay, they will ask some questions on desktop networking: broadcasts and that kind of stuff. I think you have to read that chapter in the CID book (Windows Networking). Otherwise, you should be fine with Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) course book: know it inside out because everything is there, and it can confuse if not covered thoroughly. I did it twice, but should have done it once actually. Good weekend. Mwalie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72561t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
Well, thank you.someone finally responded!! :-) I will definitely go over the Windows networking part but how about those other topics that I mentioned.Are they going to be asked at all? I do not see these topics listed under the exam topics on CCO. When did you take your exam? Things might have changed but I am not sure. Please advise. Thank you. CN From: Mwalie W Reply-To: Mwalie W To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479] Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:37:03 GMT Dear Cisco Nuts, Okay, they will ask some questions on desktop networking: broadcasts and that kind of stuff. I think you have to read that chapter in the CID book (Windows Networking). Otherwise, you should be fine with Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) course book: know it inside out because everything is there, and it can confuse if not covered thoroughly. I did it twice, but should have done it once actually. Good weekend. Mwalie misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72583t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
if it's any help, the CCDP recert exam pretty much followed right along the published exam topics. I don't recall being surprised by anything I saw. As for the CID itself, I took the 3.0 exam several years ago and the only real gripe I had about it was the stratecom stuff, which was not included in the course materials. It took me two tries to pass, but mainly because I didn't treat the LAN protocols seriously the first time through. If recent experience is worth anything, the published exam topics are probably the best place to start. For both my CCNP and CCDP recerts, I found that a couple of years of reading and hands on as part of CCIE Lab prep were all that was necessary ;- Cisco Nuts wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Sorry, If this is another request but Are any of the following topics covered under the CID 640-025 exam? The exam is still valid for upto 45 days after July 25th, I think? IPX AppleTalk Windows Networking SNA X.25 Stratacom Switches These topics are not listed under: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-025.html Anyone? Thank you. Sincerely. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72591t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
Hi Cisco Nuts, IPX AppleTalk Windows Networking SNA X.25 Stratacom Switches The topics I didn't see in Exam (12/2002)were SNA and Stratacom Switches. Regards, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72593t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Topics covered for the CID 640-025 exam?? [7:72479]
Hello, Sorry, If this is another request but Are any of the following topics covered under the CID 640-025 exam? The exam is still valid for upto 45 days after July 25th, I think? IPX AppleTalk Windows Networking SNA X.25 Stratacom Switches These topics are not listed under: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-025.html Anyone? Thank you. Sincerely. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72479t=72479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID 640-025 - ?? [7:72205]
Hello,Getting ready to take the 640-025 CID exam. Using Matthew H. Birkner's CID book from Cisco Press. Going over the topics covered in the exam @http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-025.htmlI noticed that there was NO mention of IPX, AppleTalk, Windows Networking and SNA Design at all? Why?Does this mean that these topics will NOT be tested on the exam even though the book has devoted chapters to these same topics?Please advise.Also, any tips regarding taking this exam is very well appreciated. I mean, are there any scenario type long questions with diagrams etc. asked or is it just like any other regular exam with multiple choice questions - just click a, b, c, d or e ?Thank you.Sincerely. Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72205t=72205 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 640-025 - ?? [7:72205]
I don't think that we should divulge any specifics about tests but.you should now that the CCNP-class exams have recently gone through many changes (hence the tons of ccnp-class beta exams).. Cheers, Andre' -Original Message- From: Cisco Nuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID 640-025 - ?? [7:72205] Hello,Getting ready to take the 640-025 CID exam. Using Matthew H. Birkner's CID book from Cisco Press. Going over the topics covered in the exam @http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current _exams/640-025.htmlI noticed that there was NO mention of IPX, AppleTalk, Windows Networking and SNA Design at all? Why?Does this mean that these topics will NOT be tested on the exam even though the book has devoted chapters to these same topics?Please advise.Also, any tips regarding taking this exam is very well appreciated. I mean, are there any scenario type long questions with diagrams etc. asked or is it just like any other regular exam with multiple choice questions - just click a, b, c, d or e ?Thank you.Sincerely. Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. For more information about Barclays Capital, please visit our web site at http://www.barcap.com. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Although the Barclays Group operates anti-virus programmes, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Barclays Group. Replies to this email may be monitored by the Barclays Group for operational or business reasons. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72207t=72205 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don't already [7:72027]
Hi, I'm aiming at CCDP but I don't have BCRAN. Am I correct in thinking that there is no point in me registering for CID before registration finally ends on July 25th - because to go this route to CCDP, BCRAN is also needed - but is no longer available? Therefore better for me to forget CID and go straight to ARCH? Thanks, Shane DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Proximus mobile phone services please see our website at http://www.proximus.be or refer to any Proximus agent. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72027t=72027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don't already [7:72032]
Hi, You do not need BCRAN to be CCNP. Just BSCI, Switching and CID. I am also trying to beat the 25th July deadline! Please see: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le2/le37/le5/learning_certification_ type_home.html Thanks and regards George Murage -Original Message- From: MCMORDIE Shane (BMB) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don't already [7:72027] Hi, I'm aiming at CCDP but I don't have BCRAN. Am I correct in thinking that there is no point in me registering for CID before registration finally ends on July 25th - because to go this route to CCDP, BCRAN is also needed - but is no longer available? Therefore better for me to forget CID and go straight to ARCH? Thanks, Shane DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Proximus mobile phone services please see our website at http://www.proximus.be or refer to any Proximus agent. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72032t=72032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don' [7:72027]
MCMORDIE Shane (BMB) wrote: Hi, I'm aiming at CCDP but I don't have BCRAN. Am I correct in thinking that there is no point in me registering for CID before registration finally ends on July 25th - because to go this route to CCDP, BCRAN is also needed - but is no longer available? BCRAN is still available. It's still required for CCNP so it has to be available. More here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.html The real question is can you get CCDP without BCRAN even during this transition period? At some point BCRAN won't be required for CCDP. Has that started already? I think it has. You better ask Cisco and/or check your progress on the tracking system to be sure, though. Good luck! Priscilla Therefore better for me to forget CID and go straight to ARCH? Thanks, Shane DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Proximus mobile phone services please see our website at http://www.proximus.be or refer to any Proximus agent. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72036t=72027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 640-025 [7:66103]
Once more just in case - Has anyone taken the CID 3.0 exam in the last couplf of months. Trying to find out if ATalk and IPX are still on it. Thx! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Joseph Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID 640-025 [7:66103] Reposting... Does anyone out there in the wild vast yonder of Cisco Cert Land know if Atalk and IPX are still on the CID 3.0 (640-025) test ? It doesn't show up on the exam desciription... http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam s/640-025.html Mahalo! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225] According to CID lingo a collapsed backbone is a single router or switch acting as a backbone in a campus design model. It contrasts with a distributed backbone where routers or switches are spread out among floors or buildings, all connected together via something like FDDI. (Yes, CID still has FDDI in it!) Maybe that picture you are looking at is an error. Good luck with CID. It's a fun one! :-) Priscilla Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd do 640-025 CID before it disappears, so I started reading the Ciscopress book, CID exam certification guide. Now in chapter 2, section Issues facing campus LAN designers (I'm using Safari books online so I don't know the page number) it shows figs 2.4 and 2.5 distributed and collapsed backbones respectively. The distributed backbone shows per floor, one router and one switch, the collapsed backbone shows a single router for the building fanning out to one switch per floor. Fair enough I guess, but the scenario 1, Q2 in the same chapter asks what backbone to use in a particular case and then answers it with distributed backbone and a picture fig 2.8 that looks rather like the collapsed backbone shown earlier. I obviously have to learn Ciscospeak for the exam so can anybody tell me, which is it? rgds Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66302t=66103 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 640-025 [7:66103]
Alan Joseph wrote: Reposting... Does anyone out there in the wild vast yonder of Cisco Cert Land know if Atalk and IPX are still on the CID 3.0 (640-025) test ? It doesn't show up on the exam desciription... I just took the CCDP recertification test and they were on there, if that's helpful, since you haven't gotten an answer from anyone else. Priscilla http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam s/640-025.html Mahalo! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225] According to CID lingo a collapsed backbone is a single router or switch acting as a backbone in a campus design model. It contrasts with a distributed backbone where routers or switches are spread out among floors or buildings, all connected together via something like FDDI. (Yes, CID still has FDDI in it!) Maybe that picture you are looking at is an error. Good luck with CID. It's a fun one! :-) Priscilla Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd do 640-025 CID before it disappears, so I started reading the Ciscopress book, CID exam certification guide. Now in chapter 2, section Issues facing campus LAN designers (I'm using Safari books online so I don't know the page number) it shows figs 2.4 and 2.5 distributed and collapsed backbones respectively. The distributed backbone shows per floor, one router and one switch, the collapsed backbone shows a single router for the building fanning out to one switch per floor. Fair enough I guess, but the scenario 1, Q2 in the same chapter asks what backbone to use in a particular case and then answers it with distributed backbone and a picture fig 2.8 that looks rather like the collapsed backbone shown earlier. I obviously have to learn Ciscospeak for the exam so can anybody tell me, which is it? rgds Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66104t=66103 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 640-025 [7:66103]
Reposting... Does anyone out there in the wild vast yonder of Cisco Cert Land know if Atalk and IPX are still on the CID 3.0 (640-025) test ? It doesn't show up on the exam desciription... http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam s/640-025.html Mahalo! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225] According to CID lingo a collapsed backbone is a single router or switch acting as a backbone in a campus design model. It contrasts with a distributed backbone where routers or switches are spread out among floors or buildings, all connected together via something like FDDI. (Yes, CID still has FDDI in it!) Maybe that picture you are looking at is an error. Good luck with CID. It's a fun one! :-) Priscilla Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd do 640-025 CID before it disappears, so I started reading the Ciscopress book, CID exam certification guide. Now in chapter 2, section Issues facing campus LAN designers (I'm using Safari books online so I don't know the page number) it shows figs 2.4 and 2.5 distributed and collapsed backbones respectively. The distributed backbone shows per floor, one router and one switch, the collapsed backbone shows a single router for the building fanning out to one switch per floor. Fair enough I guess, but the scenario 1, Q2 in the same chapter asks what backbone to use in a particular case and then answers it with distributed backbone and a picture fig 2.8 that looks rather like the collapsed backbone shown earlier. I obviously have to learn Ciscospeak for the exam so can anybody tell me, which is it? rgds Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66103t=66103 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 640-025 [7:66042]
Does anyone out there in the wild vast yonder of Cisco Cert Land know if Atalk and IPX are still on the CID 3.0 (640-025) test ? It doesn't show up on the exam desciription... http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam s/640-025.html Mahalo! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225] According to CID lingo a collapsed backbone is a single router or switch acting as a backbone in a campus design model. It contrasts with a distributed backbone where routers or switches are spread out among floors or buildings, all connected together via something like FDDI. (Yes, CID still has FDDI in it!) Maybe that picture you are looking at is an error. Good luck with CID. It's a fun one! :-) Priscilla Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd do 640-025 CID before it disappears, so I started reading the Ciscopress book, CID exam certification guide. Now in chapter 2, section Issues facing campus LAN designers (I'm using Safari books online so I don't know the page number) it shows figs 2.4 and 2.5 distributed and collapsed backbones respectively. The distributed backbone shows per floor, one router and one switch, the collapsed backbone shows a single router for the building fanning out to one switch per floor. Fair enough I guess, but the scenario 1, Q2 in the same chapter asks what backbone to use in a particular case and then answers it with distributed backbone and a picture fig 2.8 that looks rather like the collapsed backbone shown earlier. I obviously have to learn Ciscospeak for the exam so can anybody tell me, which is it? rgds Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66042t=66042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 640-025 [7:66041]
Does anyone out there in the wild vast yonder of Cisco Cert Land know if Atalk and IPX are still on the CID 3.0 (640-025) test ? It doesn't show up on the exam desciription... http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam s/640-025.html Mahalo! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is a distributed/collapsed backbone? [7:65225] According to CID lingo a collapsed backbone is a single router or switch acting as a backbone in a campus design model. It contrasts with a distributed backbone where routers or switches are spread out among floors or buildings, all connected together via something like FDDI. (Yes, CID still has FDDI in it!) Maybe that picture you are looking at is an error. Good luck with CID. It's a fun one! :-) Priscilla Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd do 640-025 CID before it disappears, so I started reading the Ciscopress book, CID exam certification guide. Now in chapter 2, section Issues facing campus LAN designers (I'm using Safari books online so I don't know the page number) it shows figs 2.4 and 2.5 distributed and collapsed backbones respectively. The distributed backbone shows per floor, one router and one switch, the collapsed backbone shows a single router for the building fanning out to one switch per floor. Fair enough I guess, but the scenario 1, Q2 in the same chapter asks what backbone to use in a particular case and then answers it with distributed backbone and a picture fig 2.8 that looks rather like the collapsed backbone shown earlier. I obviously have to learn Ciscospeak for the exam so can anybody tell me, which is it? rgds Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66041t=66041 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID exam - 640-025 [7:65139]
Hi all, Ive got my CID exam booked in a few weeks time... The final one I need for my CCDP... I did all the other exams in the middle of 2001 for my CCNPso havebeen out of the routine of studying for quite some time... Has anybody out there taken it recently? if so, any tips? Im working my way through the Cisco Press - CID book. Any other good study material? Many thanks Adam Adam Grimes IT Engineer - CCNP/CCDA IT Transport DE - LAN Team - UK Cisco Systems Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65139t=65139 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam - 640-025 [7:65139]
Hi, I have done that exam today and passed barely. This after I failed barely last week. I used great books (because I like great books!). 1. Top Down Network Design - Priscilla Oppenheimer. 2. Cisco Internetwork Design - Mathew Birkner. 3. Boson Test #1 Practice Test. These resources will take you through, but you have to read the questions carefully, because two answers look almost alike (to the uninitiated!)that is when I realized the difficulty of this exam for someone without networking experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65141t=65139 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam - 640-025 [7:65139]
I passed it three weeks ago, no to hard I uesd the Top Down Network Design book, it´s a great book, but I actuly just got through half of it before the exam. it´s not that hard, and I took the CCDA, the old version after the CID and i would say the cid is a little harder, and not as boring i.e. does not contain case study´s like the ccda. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65143t=65139 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID, No X.25/Microsoft/Appletalk/IPX? [7:63921]
I was reviewing the exam outline on cisco's site for the CID exam and noticed that it did not say anything about X.25, IPX, Appletalk, or Microsoft Networking. Have they removed this from the exam? I got my CCDP 3 years ago and now want to recert (I recerted my CCNP already so all I have left is CID). I have my old book, but it covers these technologies extensively and I dont want to spend extra time on those sections if they wont even be on the exam. I know the CID is about to be retired, so I want to hurry up and take this exam so I dont have to worry about the new one. Please help out if you can! Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63921t=63921 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
passed CID [7:63614]
Hi All, Just passed CID. Thank's for all exam related info. Regards, Chris A. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63614t=63614 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID 3.0 Appletalk, SNA and Voice? [7:62637]
Hi I'm looking to take my CID exam next week. However, I am having trouble determining the content of the exam. In particular I can't seem to find out if Appletalk, SNA and Voice are on the exam. The cisco website doesn't include them on the exam content but the Cisco Press CID exam certification guide I've got does. I contacted Cisco but they gave me a pretty vague answer about the exam content. If anybody can clarify whether Appletalk, SNA and Voice are included in 640-025 I would greatly appreciate this. Best regards Malcolm __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62637t=62637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 3.0 Appletalk, SNA and Voice? [7:62637]
No AppleTalk, SNA, Stratacom, or IPX that I know of. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Salmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID 3.0 Appletalk, SNA and Voice? [7:62637] Hi I'm looking to take my CID exam next week. However, I am having trouble determining the content of the exam. In particular I can't seem to find out if Appletalk, SNA and Voice are on the exam. The cisco website doesn't include them on the exam content but the Cisco Press CID exam certification guide I've got does. I contacted Cisco but they gave me a pretty vague answer about the exam content. If anybody can clarify whether Appletalk, SNA and Voice are included in 640-025 I would greatly appreciate this. Best regards Malcolm __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62642t=62637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 3.0 Appletalk, SNA and Voice? [7:62637]
Trying not to break NDA, At the time I took CID 3.0 ( Nov/2002 ), There were not SNA, Stratacom, or voice. There were not questions DIRECTLY to AppleTalk or IPX. So, you still need to understand about AT and IPX for yourself and the exam as well. Good Luck, Tu Do. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62644t=62637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CID 3.0 Test [7:62536]
Curious about this test, did it include the IPX and Appletalk? I completed the CCDA last week and it had IPX and appletalk questions. Cheers, Jamie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joseph R. Taylor Sent: February 5, 2003 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CID 3.0 Test [7:62536] Hi Steve, Congrats. I'm working on the CSPFA myself. JoeT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62686t=62536 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID 3.0 Appletalk, SNA and Voice? [7:62637]
That would be the idea: if you cannot find it on the web site's exam content list, it just might not be on test anymore. Pay careful attention to what IS on that list, that is not in the official review books. You will need some research and self-study to be prepared in those areas. Malcolm Salmons wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi I'm looking to take my CID exam next week. However, I am having trouble determining the content of the exam. In particular I can't seem to find out if Appletalk, SNA and Voice are on the exam. The cisco website doesn't include them on the exam content but the Cisco Press CID exam certification guide I've got does. I contacted Cisco but they gave me a pretty vague answer about the exam content. If anybody can clarify whether Appletalk, SNA and Voice are included in 640-025 I would greatly appreciate this. Best regards Malcolm __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62687t=62637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CID 3.0 Test [7:62536]
Passed the CID 3.0 test this afternoon. (Hmm wonder if I just violated the NDA?) Thanks to Priscilla for Top-Down Network Design, Paul for having this place, and all those who answered my questions over the last few years! Steve Ringley CCNP/CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62536t=62536 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CID 3.0 Test [7:62536]
Hi Steve, Congrats. I'm working on the CSPFA myself. JoeT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62538t=62536 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID [7:58125]
Hi Ladies and Gentleman I would like to take this opportunity to thank my Dear Lord Jesus and my family. I passed my CID exam today and let me tell you it ain't no easy exam! Full of tricky Q's and wording well read it well and you'll be fine. Thanks to all for the support, God Bless! Kind regards, Sergio Silva Network Engineer Dimension Data Helpdesk 011 709 1026 A Job Makes Something For You. A Career makes Something Of You. This message contains information intended solely for the addressee, which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any file attached to this message. Any such unauthorised use, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter delete the original message from your machine. Furthermore, the information contained in this message, and any attachments thereto, is for information purposes only and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of Dimension Data (South Africa) (Proprietary) Limited or its subsidiaries and associated companies (Dimension Data). Dimension Data therefore does not accept liability for any claims, loss or damages of whatsoever nature, arising as a result of the reliance on such information by anyone. Whilst all reasonable steps are taken to ensure the accuracy and integrity of information transmitted electronically and to preserve the confidentiality thereof, Dimension Data accepts no liability or responsibility whatsoever if information or data is, for whatsoever reason, incorrect, corrupted or does not reach its intended destination. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58125t=58125 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID 3.0 done [7:57537]
The exam 640-025 was the toughest one I took. Very thanks to this great group. Without reading it every day I was no use. Specially, thanks to the great books written by Priscilla: Trouble shooting Campus Networks and Top Down Network Design. The topics I got are exactly as posted at cisco website: There were not questions about IPX, AT, SNA, STRATACOM. Tudo, CCNP, CCDP. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57537t=57537 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam 640-025 [7:57268]
You have to be careful here because Cisco likes to add (to their blueprints) the famous The following topics are general guidelines for the content likely to be included on the Cisco Internetwork Design exam. However, other related topics may also appear on any specific delivery of the exam. I haven't heard of any SNA showing up on the CID exam, but sometimes I find it hard to trust Cisco when it comes to the exams! :-) Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Tim Metz [mailto:timmetz;hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID exam 640-025 [7:57268] No SNA on the blueprint means no SNA on the test. I took it a few months ago and didn't have any either. Tim David wrote in message news:200211120415.EAA12014;groupstudy.com... Hi folks, The CID exam. The Cisco has a lot of SNA content in it, however I can't find any SNA stuff at (excuse wrapping) http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam s/640-025.html I can't find anything about changes on Cisco's website, so...does the CID have any SNA? Cheers, David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57289t=57268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam 640-025 [7:57268]
Tim/Shawn, In regards to the CID 640-025 exam...I have heard rumors that AT and IPX have been somewhat removed as well? The current exam objectives on CCO would indicate this, but like others, I doubt Cisco's honesty on their exam objectives a bit. Can you confirm or deny this rumor of AT IPX being removed from the DP exam? Thanks. Steve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57294t=57268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID exam 640-025 [7:57268]
Hi folks, The CID exam. The Cisco has a lot of SNA content in it, however I can't find any SNA stuff at (excuse wrapping) http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-025.html I can't find anything about changes on Cisco's website, so...does the CID have any SNA? Cheers, David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57268t=57268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID exam 640-025 [7:57268]
No SNA on the blueprint means no SNA on the test. I took it a few months ago and didn't have any either. Tim David wrote in message news:200211120415.EAA12014;groupstudy.com... Hi folks, The CID exam. The Cisco has a lot of SNA content in it, however I can't find any SNA stuff at (excuse wrapping) http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam s/640-025.html I can't find anything about changes on Cisco's website, so...does the CID have any SNA? Cheers, David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57272t=57268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID 3.0 format [7:56769]
Hi, To those who have recently taken the CID exam, are there topics that have been removed from the official/original CID course? What about topics that were not covered by the original course? Thanks. Elmer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56769t=56769 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DCN/CID exam difficulty [7:56319]
Folks Due to suffering from Cisco withdrawal symptoms recently (I am between jobs right now and my lab is in storage awaiting a house move, so I havent actually had my hands on cisco kit for 3 months) I decided to go for the only cisco certs that dont strictly require hands-on practice, the DCN and CID exams. After spending a week or two studying Top Down Network Design (an excellent book by the way Priscilla), I signed up for DCN on Tuesday and CID on Thursday. Over the weekend I read the Cisco press DCN course book and cert guide and took the DCN exam on Tuesday morning. Then spent the rest of the day and wednesday reading the CID course book and cert guide and took the CID exam on Thursday morning. OK, now I am going to get to the point of this email. What really suprised me was the difficulty level of the two exams. Although I basically did well in the DCN exam overall, I am convinced that were it not for what I know from my previous CCNP/CCIP studies, I would have failed this exam. ie I scored 100% on all the technology areas (Lan protocols, wan technologies, bridging/switching, routing protocols and Network management), but scored poorly on the core CCDA areas. Then when I came to the CID exam, I went in expecting a really tough exam (based on what I have heard here and other places) and ended up completing the exam in less than 30 minutes and passing. So, the crux of the issue is ... was my experience unusual or has the difficulty of these exams changed recently. Admitedly I do feel that I actually learnt a lot in my study for the exams, but somehow I almost feel cheated. There is a lot of satisfaction to be gained from pushing yourself, learning a load of new stuff and then passing a difficult exam (ie validating your knowledge), and this time I dont seem to feel that sense of accomplishment. OK, time for me to stop rambling on. Any thoughts anyone? Peter Walker Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56319t=56319 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DCN/CID exam difficulty [7:56319]
The new beta CCDA exam is much more difficult than the current exam and you are correct; the new CID exam as of earlier this year is a joke!Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIP wrote: Although I basically did well in the DCN exam overall, I am convinced that were it not for what I know from my previous CCNP/CCIP studies, I would have failed this exam. ie I scored 100% on all the technology areas (Lan protocols, wan technologies, bridging/switching, routing protocols and Network management), but scored poorly on the core CCDA areas. Then when I came to the CID exam, I went in expecting a really tough exam (based on what I have heard here and other places) and ended up completing the exam in less than 30 minutes and passing. So, the crux of the issue is ... was my experience unusual or has the difficulty of these exams changed recently. Admitedly I do feel that I actually learnt a lot in my study for the exams, but somehow I almost feel cheated. There is a lot of satisfaction to be gained from pushing yourself, learning a load of new stuff and then passing a difficult exam (ie validating your knowledge), and this time I dont seem to feel that sense of accomplishment. OK, time for me to stop rambling on. Any thoughts anyone? Peter Walker Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=56334t=56319 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CID yesterday [7:54238]
Hey folks, I passed CID (CCDP) yesterday. For those who are studying for this test, don't spend your time with Appletalk, IPX, StrataCom, SNA and Voice. I got no questions about these subjects. I think this test was easier that CCDA (DCN is really tough because of the case studies). I got a lot of Frame Relay, IGRP/EIGRP, IP Address issues and Hierarquical design questions. Total of 75 questions to complete in 90 minutes. Used Cisco Internetwork Design book (Cisco Press) by Matthew H. Birkner and Bernard's Boson CID#1 and that should be enough. -- Daniel Lafraia Senior Software Developer CCNP/CCDP Earthlink MIS Group Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54238t=54238 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 3.0 [7:49428]
Hi, No, they are removed in new CID exam (SNA and Appletalk). Now the exam focuses in IP and ATM issues. I took it in July with score of 860, thank God, I passed. Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID 3.0 [7:49428] Hi all, anyone knows what I must emphasize on for CID 3.0. Is SNA included ? AppleTalk ? any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52342t=49428 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last stretch to CID on Friday [7:51344]
Hi all, Busy cramming away here for my exam on Friday morning. Anyone have any pointers From the Cisco exam outline webpage there is no mention on AppleTalk and SNA - that bothers me a little as I really expected this I realise that this is a badly worded exam - can't really be worse than the CCDA exam??!! Thanks in advance Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Networks A Division of the Bytes Technology Group A Member of the Altron Group www.btgroup.co.za visit the press office @ www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes Tel : +27 11 800 9336 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51344t=51344 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Last stretch to CID on Friday [7:51344]
Hi, I am taking CID next week, and so far for my preparation, I have been studying for SNA and Appletalk as well. From my understanding, both topics are included. anyway, good luck for your exam, and do let me know if SNA and Appletalk are excluded. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51417t=51344 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Last stretch to CID on Friday [7:51344]
SNA and Apple are not present in the exam, I did this exam about 2months ago. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51432t=51344 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Last stretch to CID on Friday [7:51344]
I'd like to start studying for the CID Exam. I have the CID book from a friend. I have looked at the objectives on the cisco website, and SNA and Apple are not listed there. But they are in the CID book. The objectives also don't list anything more (to replace SNA and Apple). So my question is that can I study using the CID with more focus on the other chapters, and just read over SNA + Apple. Am I missing something ... Sorry ... Went for two operations in the last month ... I think the anasthetic is still in me :} Thanks Manish -Original Message- From: Kris Keen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 August 2002 06:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Last stretch to CID on Friday [7:51344] SNA and Apple are not present in the exam, I did this exam about 2months ago. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51435t=51344 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID 3.0 [7:49428]
Hi all, anyone knows what I must emphasize on for CID 3.0. Is SNA included ? AppleTalk ? any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49428t=49428 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Thanks for the heads up Bernard, I hadn't even looked at the outline lately. Any ideas as when this all changed approximately? Well I might be doing CID a lot sooner now that I don't have to worry about SNA. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bernard Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] Cisco has made changes to its CID objectives. The following is the updated link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html IPX, AppleTalk, SNA and Stratacom questions have been removed from the objectives. HTH, Bernard Omrani Author of Boson practice tests -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Penn Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] Check out the outline on CCO. As far as I know SNA, IPX, and Applecrap, I mean I talk, are still there for CID. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48880t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Dan, My first e-mail to the CID practice test users informing them of the changes is dated March 1, 2002. That must be the approximate date that the CID objectives changed. Good luck with the exam. This exam is still tricky and you must read the questions very carefully. Bernard Omrani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Penn Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] Thanks for the heads up Bernard, I hadn't even looked at the outline lately. Any ideas as when this all changed approximately? Well I might be doing CID a lot sooner now that I don't have to worry about SNA. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bernard Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] Cisco has made changes to its CID objectives. The following is the updated link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html IPX, AppleTalk, SNA and Stratacom questions have been removed from the objectives. HTH, Bernard Omrani Author of Boson practice tests Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48948t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Words of advice for any test. Thanks, Dan -Original Message- From: Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Dan Penn' Subject: RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] Dan, My first e-mail to the CID practice test users informing them of the changes is dated March 1, 2002. That must be the approximate date that the CID objectives changed. Good luck with the exam. This exam is still tricky and you must read the questions very carefully. Bernard Omrani Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48960t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48839t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Check out the outline on CCO. As far as I know SNA, IPX, and Applecrap, I mean I talk, are still there for CID. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48846t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Dan Penn wrote: Check out the outline on CCO. As far as I know SNA, IPX, and Applecrap, I mean I talk, are still there for CID. And, sir, why do you call it Applecrap? ;-) Seriously, can you provide some technical reasons to disparage it? Perhaps it's still on Cisco tests because the philosophies behind AppleTalk had a big impact on modern desktop protocol design. Also, many universities and schools of all sorts still have large AppleTalk networks. You would be surprised at how many still use it. It's also still used at scientific and graphics arts companies. Many protocol designers admire the pioneering work that Apple did to make networks plug and play. There's a new IETF working group called the Zero Configuration Networking group that credits AppleTalk. See here for more info: http://www.zeroconf.org/ Note that IPv6 has serverless autonegotiation of network-layer addresses which behaves quite a bit like AppleTalk. (It probably won't catch on in many environments which have a DHCP server, but it may catch on in other environments). And how about Microsoft's automatic addressing. (Of course we normally only see that when DHCP has failed, but still Microsoft thought enough of the AppleTalk mechanism to steal it. ;-) And how about service location? TCP/IP barely even has service location, still to this day. Don't you think it's a little silly that we have to find resources with a search engine? There is hope with new protocols like the Service Location Protocol (SLP) and some of the new multicast protocols that let you find multicasting servers. Note that the SLP RFC credits AppleTalk. Maybe some expert told you that AppleTalk is chatty. For one thing, any protocol that tries to automate service location, speed up routing protocol convergence, and quickly workaround connection disconnects is going to be a bit chatty. It's a tradeoff. AppleTalk is no more chatty than Windows Networking or IPX. And you want chatty, how about all those keepalives and hellos that Cisco routers send? Maybe that same expert told you to avoid AppleTalk because it broadcasts too much. That's a myth. It uses multicasts, for one thing, which means a decent NIC driver that doesn't do AppleTalk shouldn't bother the host. The descriptions you see about Chooser behavior are mostly nonsense. The Chooser doesn't send broadcasts. It sends broadcast requests which are forwarded (as unicasts) to each router in the zone. Those routers send a multicast onto their networks in the zone. With good network design, this is no problem. The Chooser doesn't send continually unless the user leaves it open with a zone and service highlighted, which is almost never the case. Then it does send rather often, but backs off after 45 seconds. The problem where it sent the broadcast request packets (which are really unicasts) very often, without backing off, was fixed in 1989. By then, it was too late. The criticism of its behavior (even though already based on misinformation) was entrenched in people's minds. Hey, I could go on and on, but I'll stop here, you'll be glad to see. ;-) Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48848t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: Priscilla, you know I'm writing on a Mac. Still, this reminds me of Eve's explanation of giving Adam the Apple! :-) Or maybe giving Alan the Apple. Hee hee. Inside joke. I am a little sensitive when it comes to AppleTalk, having been intimately involved in its development, so to speak. ;-) Technically correct, of course. At 5:54 PM + 7/15/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Dan Penn wrote: Check out the outline on CCO. As far as I know SNA, IPX, and Applecrap, I mean I talk, are still there for CID. And, sir, why do you call it Applecrap? ;-) Seriously, can you provide some technical reasons to disparage it? Perhaps it's still on Cisco tests because the philosophies behind AppleTalk had a big impact on modern desktop protocol design. Also, many universities and schools of all sorts still have large AppleTalk networks. You would be surprised at how many still use it. It's also still used at scientific and graphics arts companies. Many protocol designers admire the pioneering work that Apple did to make networks plug and play. There's a new IETF working group called the Zero Configuration Networking group that credits AppleTalk. See here for more info: http://www.zeroconf.org/ Note that IPv6 has serverless autonegotiation of network-layer addresses which behaves quite a bit like AppleTalk. (It probably won't catch on in many environments which have a DHCP server, but it may catch on in other environments). And how about Microsoft's automatic addressing. (Of course we normally only see that when DHCP has failed, but still Microsoft thought enough of the AppleTalk mechanism to steal it. ;-) And how about service location? TCP/IP barely even has service location, still to this day. Don't you think it's a little silly that we have to find resources with a search engine? There is hope with new protocols like the Service Location Protocol (SLP) and some of the new multicast protocols that let you find multicasting servers. Note that the SLP RFC credits AppleTalk. Maybe some expert told you that AppleTalk is chatty. For one thing, any protocol that tries to automate service location, speed up routing protocol convergence, and quickly workaround connection disconnects is going to be a bit chatty. It's a tradeoff. AppleTalk is no more chatty than Windows Networking or IPX. And you want chatty, how about all those keepalives and hellos that Cisco routers send? Maybe that same expert told you to avoid AppleTalk because it broadcasts too much. That's a myth. It uses multicasts, for one thing, which means a decent NIC driver that doesn't do AppleTalk shouldn't bother the host. The descriptions you see about Chooser behavior are mostly nonsense. The Chooser doesn't send broadcasts. It sends broadcast requests which are forwarded (as unicasts) to each router in the zone. Those routers send a multicast onto their networks in the zone. With good network design, this is no problem. The Chooser doesn't send continually unless the user leaves it open with a zone and service highlighted, which is almost never the case. Then it does send rather often, but backs off after 45 seconds. The problem where it sent the broadcast request packets (which are really unicasts) very often, without backing off, was fixed in 1989. By then, it was too late. The criticism of its behavior (even though already based on misinformation) was entrenched in people's minds. Hey, I could go on and on, but I'll stop here, you'll be glad to see. ;-) Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48865t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: Priscilla, you know I'm writing on a Mac. Still, this reminds me of Eve's explanation of giving Adam the Apple! :-) Or maybe giving Alan the Apple. Hee hee. Inside joke. So _that_ explains your attitude about the SNAke. I am a little sensitive when it comes to AppleTalk, having been intimately involved in its development, so to speak. ;-) Technically correct, of course. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48869t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Cisco has made changes to its CID objectives. The following is the updated link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html IPX, AppleTalk, SNA and Stratacom questions have been removed from the objectives. HTH, Bernard Omrani Author of Boson practice tests -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Penn Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] Check out the outline on CCO. As far as I know SNA, IPX, and Applecrap, I mean I talk, are still there for CID. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48849t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Priscilla, you know I'm writing on a Mac. Still, this reminds me of Eve's explanation of giving Adam the Apple! :-) Technically correct, of course. At 5:54 PM + 7/15/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Dan Penn wrote: Check out the outline on CCO. As far as I know SNA, IPX, and Applecrap, I mean I talk, are still there for CID. And, sir, why do you call it Applecrap? ;-) Seriously, can you provide some technical reasons to disparage it? Perhaps it's still on Cisco tests because the philosophies behind AppleTalk had a big impact on modern desktop protocol design. Also, many universities and schools of all sorts still have large AppleTalk networks. You would be surprised at how many still use it. It's also still used at scientific and graphics arts companies. Many protocol designers admire the pioneering work that Apple did to make networks plug and play. There's a new IETF working group called the Zero Configuration Networking group that credits AppleTalk. See here for more info: http://www.zeroconf.org/ Note that IPv6 has serverless autonegotiation of network-layer addresses which behaves quite a bit like AppleTalk. (It probably won't catch on in many environments which have a DHCP server, but it may catch on in other environments). And how about Microsoft's automatic addressing. (Of course we normally only see that when DHCP has failed, but still Microsoft thought enough of the AppleTalk mechanism to steal it. ;-) And how about service location? TCP/IP barely even has service location, still to this day. Don't you think it's a little silly that we have to find resources with a search engine? There is hope with new protocols like the Service Location Protocol (SLP) and some of the new multicast protocols that let you find multicasting servers. Note that the SLP RFC credits AppleTalk. Maybe some expert told you that AppleTalk is chatty. For one thing, any protocol that tries to automate service location, speed up routing protocol convergence, and quickly workaround connection disconnects is going to be a bit chatty. It's a tradeoff. AppleTalk is no more chatty than Windows Networking or IPX. And you want chatty, how about all those keepalives and hellos that Cisco routers send? Maybe that same expert told you to avoid AppleTalk because it broadcasts too much. That's a myth. It uses multicasts, for one thing, which means a decent NIC driver that doesn't do AppleTalk shouldn't bother the host. The descriptions you see about Chooser behavior are mostly nonsense. The Chooser doesn't send broadcasts. It sends broadcast requests which are forwarded (as unicasts) to each router in the zone. Those routers send a multicast onto their networks in the zone. With good network design, this is no problem. The Chooser doesn't send continually unless the user leaves it open with a zone and service highlighted, which is almost never the case. Then it does send rather often, but backs off after 45 seconds. The problem where it sent the broadcast request packets (which are really unicasts) very often, without backing off, was fixed in 1989. By then, it was too late. The criticism of its behavior (even though already based on misinformation) was entrenched in people's minds. Hey, I could go on and on, but I'll stop here, you'll be glad to see. ;-) Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48850t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839]
Someone should dig out that Radia Perlman quote from Interconnections. Something about not knowing anything about protocols if you only study one (i.e. TCP/IP) :) I would but I don't have the book here. Darn it. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: RE: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] Dan Penn wrote: Check out the outline on CCO. As far as I know SNA, IPX, and Applecrap, I mean I talk, are still there for CID. And, sir, why do you call it Applecrap? ;-) Seriously, can you provide some technical reasons to disparage it? Perhaps it's still on Cisco tests because the philosophies behind AppleTalk had a big impact on modern desktop protocol design. Also, many universities and schools of all sorts still have large AppleTalk networks. You would be surprised at how many still use it. It's also still used at scientific and graphics arts companies. Many protocol designers admire the pioneering work that Apple did to make networks plug and play. There's a new IETF working group called the Zero Configuration Networking group that credits AppleTalk. See here for more info: http://www.zeroconf.org/ Note that IPv6 has serverless autonegotiation of network-layer addresses which behaves quite a bit like AppleTalk. (It probably won't catch on in many environments which have a DHCP server, but it may catch on in other environments). And how about Microsoft's automatic addressing. (Of course we normally only see that when DHCP has failed, but still Microsoft thought enough of the AppleTalk mechanism to steal it. ;-) And how about service location? TCP/IP barely even has service location, still to this day. Don't you think it's a little silly that we have to find resources with a search engine? There is hope with new protocols like the Service Location Protocol (SLP) and some of the new multicast protocols that let you find multicasting servers. Note that the SLP RFC credits AppleTalk. Maybe some expert told you that AppleTalk is chatty. For one thing, any protocol that tries to automate service location, speed up routing protocol convergence, and quickly workaround connection disconnects is going to be a bit chatty. It's a tradeoff. AppleTalk is no more chatty than Windows Networking or IPX. And you want chatty, how about all those keepalives and hellos that Cisco routers send? Maybe that same expert told you to avoid AppleTalk because it broadcasts too much. That's a myth. It uses multicasts, for one thing, which means a decent NIC driver that doesn't do AppleTalk shouldn't bother the host. The descriptions you see about Chooser behavior are mostly nonsense. The Chooser doesn't send broadcasts. It sends broadcast requests which are forwarded (as unicasts) to each router in the zone. Those routers send a multicast onto their networks in the zone. With good network design, this is no problem. The Chooser doesn't send continually unless the user leaves it open with a zone and service highlighted, which is almost never the case. Then it does send rather often, but backs off after 45 seconds. The problem where it sent the broadcast request packets (which are really unicasts) very often, without backing off, was fixed in 1989. By then, it was too late. The criticism of its behavior (even though already based on misinformation) was entrenched in people's minds. Hey, I could go on and on, but I'll stop here, you'll be glad to see. ;-) Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam 3.0 [7:48839] hi anyone knows what I should emphasize for the CID exam ? Should I drop SNA , appletalk? What should I concentrate on thanks suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48854t=48839 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID [7:47496]
Hi, Whether anyone attempted CID recently?I am curious whether there are questions from SNA ATM? Thanks. Saj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47496t=47496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID [7:47496]
Cisco has made changes to its CID objectives. The following is the updated link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html No AppleTalk, IPX, SNA, nor Stratacom. The test is 75 questions in 90 minutes, pass mark 755/1000. Get the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design guide and if you have passed the CCNP, you should have no problems. -Original Message- From: sajith nair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID [7:47496] Hi, Whether anyone attempted CID recently?I am curious whether there are questions from SNA ATM? Thanks. Saj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47502t=47496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID [7:47496]
I just completed the CID exam last week with an 872. I followed the exact advice Andy has given you (thanks for the recommendation Andy and Leigh Ann). I read Top-Down Network Design and it is exceptional (both for the test and for general knowledge). I also used Boson #1 (not great but adequate) and the CCxx Productions CID study guide, which is good. It has a few errors and when you know the material well enough to spot them, you are ready. I studied for 4 days and took the exam. Mainly I did it this way because some of the sources conflicted on information and I decided to see what was on the test and did not really expect to pass. The horror stories about this exam are greatly exaggerated. It is 75 questions in 90 minutes with a 755 to pass. I finished in 22 minutes. There was no more than a couple of basic ATM questions, no Stratacom, and no SNA. No 2 page scenario questions like the DA exam either. Some of the questions are definitely value judgments that you need to know the Cisco answer to get them right. -Original Message- From: sajith nair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID [7:47496] Hi, Whether anyone attempted CID recently?I am curious whether there are questions from SNA ATM? Thanks. Saj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47516t=47496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID [7:47496]
ATM is there... no appletalk or SNA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47538t=47496 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID 3.0 exam [7:47227]
Dear all, anyone got any pointers for the CID exam 3.0 ? Is sna INCLUDED , is AppleTalk included as well? any other tips will be greatly appreciated rgds, Jason Yee __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47227t=47227 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID 3.0 exam [7:47227]
Cisco has made changes to its CID objectives. The following is the updated link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html (Watch the wrap) No AppleTalk, IPX, SNA, nor Startacom. The test is 75 questions in 90 minutes, pass mark 755/1000. HTH Bernard Omrani Author of Boson Practe tests -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of suaveguru Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID 3.0 exam [7:47227] Dear all, anyone got any pointers for the CID exam 3.0 ? Is sna INCLUDED , is AppleTalk included as well? any other tips will be greatly appreciated rgds, Jason Yee __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=47259t=47227 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID [7:46307]
I recently purchased Top Down Network Design for general education. Having just completed my CCNP, I am curious if anyone who has passed CID, can tell me (without violating the NDA) if there is anything not covered in Priscilla's outstanding book that I may find on the exam or maybe if there are additional materials that I may need to use or is TDND sufficient. Also which of the boson's is most useful. TIA Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46307t=46307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID [7:46307]
I too would like to know, I sit the CID exam on Friday. There doesnt seem to be anything in the Top Down book on the IPX/BPX switches, so I'm assuming its gone, Also the lack of SNA and the blueprint show no sna, can I assume theres none in the exam? I don't mind studying it but if its not in the book, where do I obtain material... CID seems very strange to study for..I've learnt nothing more form doing CID study than CCDA and CCNP/CCIE study... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46315t=46307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID [7:46307]
I thought Top-Down was perfect for the CID exam. It really seemed to correspond with the topics covered... Live it, cover-to-cover, and you should do fine. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Davis, Scott [ISE/RAC] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID [7:46307] I recently purchased Top Down Network Design for general education. Having just completed my CCNP, I am curious if anyone who has passed CID, can tell me (without violating the NDA) if there is anything not covered in Priscilla's outstanding book that I may find on the exam or maybe if there are additional materials that I may need to use or is TDND sufficient. Also which of the boson's is most useful. TIA Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46319t=46307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID [7:46307]
You have the only book you need for the CID exam provided you have also passed the DA exam. -Original Message- From: Davis, Scott [ISE/RAC] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID [7:46307] I recently purchased Top Down Network Design for general education. Having just completed my CCNP, I am curious if anyone who has passed CID, can tell me (without violating the NDA) if there is anything not covered in Priscilla's outstanding book that I may find on the exam or maybe if there are additional materials that I may need to use or is TDND sufficient. Also which of the boson's is most useful. TIA Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46312t=46307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP Complete, Passed CID 3.0 640-025 [7:45289]
Hello all. Today I passed CID 3.0 640-025. 90 minutes, 75 questions, Scoring range 300-1000, passing score 755. I will not divulge any information about the exam other than the following. -The cisco exam outline does not mention SNA -The cisco exam outline does mention layer two technologies including ATM. I found the exam to follow the cisco exam outling very closely. For Preparation I used the Sybex book and residual knowledge from CCNP certification. I've almost got the whole set now. CCNA, CCNP, CCDP I'm going to reattempt the RS Lab this fall. Anyone know of any openings for a Network Engineer with 3-5 years of experience? Please CC me on replies. I'm unsubscribed now because of hotmail limitations. Thanks, Ejay Hire 434-591-4564 _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45289t=45289 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Complete, Passed CID 3.0 640-025 [7:45289]
I sit this exam in a few weeks, you are saying I shouldnt study SNA? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45301t=45289 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Complete, Passed CID 3.0 640-025 [7:45289]
I can't speak for him, but I think he was complaining about (so to speak) was that SNA and ATM were not on the outline (implying they were on the exam). Mike W. Kris Keen wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I sit this exam in a few weeks, you are saying I shouldnt study SNA? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45311t=45289 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Complete, Passed CID 3.0 640-025 [7:45289]
Perhaps your thinking is a bit off. Michael L. Williams Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/2002 09:38 AM Please respond to Michael L. Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: CCNP Complete, Passed CID 3.0 640-025 [7:45289] I can't speak for him, but I think he was complaining about (so to speak) was that SNA and ATM were not on the outline (implying they were on the exam). Mike W. Kris Keen wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I sit this exam in a few weeks, you are saying I shouldnt study SNA? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45313t=45289 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Complete, Passed CID 3.0 640-025 [7:45289]
In any case, Ill study whats in Top Down.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45317t=45289 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Complete, Passed CID 3.0 640-025 [7:45289]
That's a complete possibility =) Wouldn't be the first time hehe Mike W. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Perhaps your thinking is a bit off. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45319t=45289 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Test wonderings [7:43678]
I would assume it was the most recent version, but I really don't know, as I wasn't aware that they had changed the CCDP exams. Brian Hill CCNP, CCDP, MCSE 2000 (Charter Member), MCSE+I (NT4.0), MCSA (Charter Member), MCT, MCP(21), Inet+, Net+, A+ Lead Technology Architect, TechTrain Author: Cisco, The Complete Reference http://www.alfageek.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43953t=43678 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Test wonderings [7:43678]
Just wondering...was this the new format or the old? Regards, Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43839t=43678 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Test wonderings [7:43678]
I took the test about 2 months ago, and I thought it was very easy, even cold. I haven't read any of the study guides, so I can't tell you how close they match, but I can tell you the things that stood out to me: -No configuration questions -Some basic troubleshooting -Mostly design (i.e. what is best in this situation) questions -Lots of Token Ring stuff -Some rough PPP questions (read the RFCs) -Some ancient (SNA and X.25) stuff -A decent amount of fairly easy routing questions, mostly OSPF, EIGRP and RIP -Surprisingly, some network tools questions where the answer was NOT the Cisco product (Openview, Sniffer, etc.) Hope this helps, Brian Hill CCNP, CCDP, MCSE 2000 (Charter Member), MCSE+I (NT4.0), MCSA (Charter Member), MCT, MCP(21), Inet+, Net+, A+ Lead Technology Architect, TechTrain Author: Cisco, The Complete Reference http://www.alfageek.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43810t=43678 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID case studies in exam [7:42750]
Hello, how many per cent of the CID questions are time-consuming case studies like in DCN? I could imagine CID is time-critical for non-native english speakers because time is much shorter than in DCN, right? -- Best regards, Stefan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42750t=42750 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID case studies in exam [7:42750]
The CID was updated about 2 months ago and there are no case studies, just 75 questions in 90 minutes with a passing score of 755. The best book for the current exam and self-study is the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stefan Reelsen Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID case studies in exam [7:42750] Hello, how many per cent of the CID questions are time-consuming case studies like in DCN? I could imagine CID is time-critical for non-native english speakers because time is much shorter than in DCN, right? -- Best regards, Stefan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42751t=42750 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
There is no SNA or Appletalk on the new CID exam. Cisco wouldn't lie to you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Thanks for all the book suggestions. (see my original post). I do already have TDND as well as the CID exam Cert book. Now for the next question: I noticed in the exam topics for CID that there is no longer a mention of SNA and appletalk. Anyone who has taken the test recently, can you verify this? Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40471t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Although SNA is said to have been removed, the feedbacks that I receive daily, tell me otherwise. There are indeed SNA questions in the new CID exam. I am sure these are the questions that Cisco has failed to remove from the database completely, but they show up in the real life exams anyway, and you should be aware of that. You may certainly bypass AppleTalk, IPX and Stratacom questions when practicing for the CID exam, but please do not discount SNA questions yet. Here is the URL to the new CID objectives: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html Please watch the wrap. Bernard Omrani Author of Boson CID#1 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] There is no SNA or Appletalk on the new CID exam. Cisco wouldn't lie to you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40492t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
I took the new exam about 6 weeks ago and didn't see any SNA questions and it is not listed on the exam objectives page. -Original Message- From: Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Andy Barkl' Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Although SNA is said to have been removed, the feedbacks that I receive daily, tell me otherwise. There are indeed SNA questions in the new CID exam. I am sure these are the questions that Cisco has failed to remove from the database completely, but they show up in the real life exams anyway, and you should be aware of that. You may certainly bypass AppleTalk, IPX and Stratacom questions when practicing for the CID exam, but please do not discount SNA questions yet. Here is the URL to the new CID objectives: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_ exams/640-025.html Please watch the wrap. Bernard Omrani Author of Boson CID#1 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] There is no SNA or Appletalk on the new CID exam. Cisco wouldn't lie to you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40494t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Thanks for all the book suggestions. (see my original post). I do already have TDND as well as the CID exam Cert book. Now for the next question: I noticed in the exam topics for CID that there is no longer a mention of SNA and appletalk. Anyone who has taken the test recently, can you verify this? Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: At 10:07 AM 4/2/02, Cebuano wrote: Priscilla, Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract. BTW - when is the next book due for release? Hey, you guys keep giving me a chance to get in some free advertising! ;-) My next book is about troubleshooting. It is written (with Joseph Bardwell's help), but the publisher (Wiley) is still doing the production. Stay tuned. Thanks for asking. There's more info here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Hopefully the date that Amazon is reporting (July) is worst case! By the way, I approve of Robert Padjen's book on CID also. I wrote a good review of it for Amazon. My review is sincere and I'm not at all compensated for it (in fact, sort of the opposite! ;-) Priscilla Elmer - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote: Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-) Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco. I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID class here: http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours eDescCOURSE_ID=321 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected. CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing technologies and customer requirements. I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-] Priscilla To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7
RE: Boson for CID [7:40306]
Roy, I have just taken the CID exam last week. I found Boson Test #1 by bernard to be excellent. Glen Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40338t=40306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Hi I took exam on 04/01 (this Monday). No questions were about SNA, AT. But i could find some questions were from DeskTop protocol design and lots from WAN. I took the same exam on 01/02, that time lots of questions from SNA. Recently exam duration is about 90 Minutes (last time 120 Minutes - 100 questions) 75 questions. Hope above helps. All the best. Sankaran STRAND Scott wrote: Thanks for all the book suggestions. (see my original post). I do already have TDND as well as the CID exam Cert book. Now for the next question: I noticed in the exam topics for CID that there is no longer a mention of SNA and appletalk. Anyone who has taken the test recently, can you verify this? Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: At 10:07 AM 4/2/02, Cebuano wrote: Priscilla, Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract. BTW - when is the next book due for release? Hey, you guys keep giving me a chance to get in some free advertising! ;-) My next book is about troubleshooting. It is written (with Joseph Bardwell's help), but the publisher (Wiley) is still doing the production. Stay tuned. Thanks for asking. There's more info here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Hopefully the date that Amazon is reporting (July) is worst case! By the way, I approve of Robert Padjen's book on CID also. I wrote a good review of it for Amazon. My review is sincere and I'm not at all compensated for it (in fact, sort of the opposite! ;-) Priscilla Elmer - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote: Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-) Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco. I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID class here: http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours eDescCOURSE_ID=321 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected. CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing technologies and customer requirements. I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-] Priscilla To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment
Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Priscilla, Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract. BTW - when is the next book due for release? Elmer - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote: Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-) Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco. I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID class here: http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours eDescCOURSE_ID=321 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected. CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing technologies and customer requirements. I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-] Priscilla To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40192t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Here is my list for the CID: DCN Padjen book Top Down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote: Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-) Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco. I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID class here: http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours eDescCOURSE_ID=321 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected. CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing technologies and customer requirements. I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-] Priscilla To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40199t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
I have that book, it is great! Robert does an excellent job outlining the intricacies of the CID. I am taking soon, (probably in May after the CISSP). Thanks for the great book Robert! Regards, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40198t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
At 10:07 AM 4/2/02, Cebuano wrote: Priscilla, Maybe it's time to switch publishers like Howard's. Unless your upcoming book prevents Cisco from doing what they did to TDND's contract. BTW - when is the next book due for release? Hey, you guys keep giving me a chance to get in some free advertising! ;-) My next book is about troubleshooting. It is written (with Joseph Bardwell's help), but the publisher (Wiley) is still doing the production. Stay tuned. Thanks for asking. There's more info here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Hopefully the date that Amazon is reporting (July) is worst case! By the way, I approve of Robert Padjen's book on CID also. I wrote a good review of it for Amazon. My review is sincere and I'm not at all compensated for it (in fact, sort of the opposite! ;-) Priscilla Elmer - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:12 AM Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote: Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-) Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco. I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID class here: http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours eDescCOURSE_ID=321 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected. CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing technologies and customer requirements. I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-] Priscilla To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40218t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boson for CID [7:40306]
I am studying for the Cisco CID exam and I plan on using Boson to supplement my studies. Any recommendations on which test to use?? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40306t=40306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40133t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote: Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-) Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco. I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID class here: http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=CourseDescCOURSE_ID=321 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected. CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing technologies and customer requirements. I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-] Priscilla To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40150t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39669t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39685t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID help needed [7:37854]
Hi all, I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody point me out where to find it ? Or mail it to me ? Cheers and thanx in advanced Ronald The Netherlands Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37854t=37854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID help needed [7:37854]
go to www.cisco.com Click technical documents. Look 1/2 way down on the left hand side. Internetwork Design Guide.. top down network design is also a good book, (you'll have to buy it) and the internetworking case studies are helpful in finding the cisco way of doing things. -eh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID help needed [7:37854] Hi all, I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody point me out where to find it ? Or mail it to me ? Cheers and thanx in advanced Ronald The Netherlands Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37857t=37854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID help needed [7:37854]
Here is a link to www.amazon.com that has the book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578701716/qid=1015901893/sr=1-3/ref= sr_1_3/104-1616250-9067969 Adrian wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I'm searching for the Cisco Internetwork Design Manual. Can somebody point me out where to find it ? Or mail it to me ? Cheers and thanx in advanced Ronald The Netherlands Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37926t=37854 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID exam has changed [7:37074]
I also took it last week, after 2/25/02, and noticed no changes from the objective list prior to the date that you have stated. While there are some changes on the objectives listed on the website, now, ATM ATM LANE are still mentioned as objective categorys. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37140t=37074 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID exam has changed [7:37074]
I took this test last Friday and SNA was still there. Jason Forrester CCIE #8748 Andy Barkl wrote: The CID exam was recently updated. The new objectives are on the web site. The SNA and extensive ATM coverage is gone. Also Appletalk, IPX, DLSW, are gone as well. The exam is 90 minutes long with 75 questions and the passing score is 755. The Cisco Press CID study guide is OK but the CID exam guide is terrible. They both have extensive SNA coverage, but like I said, is not part of the exam any longer. I highly recommend the Top-Down Network Design book as the new CID guide. Besides being a great book, it has all that you'll need for the CID exam provided you are a CCNP. In my opinion, the new CID exam is not anymore difficult than the CCNP exams. Good luck to you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37099t=37074 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam has changed [7:37074]
SNA is not listed in the objectives of the web site and it was gone as of 2/25/02. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Carl Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID exam has changed [7:37074] I took this test last Friday and SNA was still there. Jason Forrester CCIE #8748 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37104t=37074 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID advice needed [7:36955]
When is the last time you attempted the exam. I took it last week and it's entirely new. The new objectives are listed on the web site, SNA and ATM are gone. I actually thought the exam was too easy. I used the CID books but the Top Down Network Design book should now be the new course book. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Latham, Andrew (PSO) Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID advice needed [7:36955] I have tried this exam 3 times - getting 1 mark off the pass mark each time. I used this book and also used cisco course notes - all seem are high level. SNA and ATM switch questions are in great detail - but not covered in detail in the book. I have since started on the CIT! Andrew Latham Technical Consultant - Veba Aral Integration Worldcom BP PSO Breakspear Park, Breakspear Way, Hemel Hempstead, Herts. HP2 4UL Office: +44 (0)1442 223503 Mobile: +44(0) 7909 974594 Fax: +44 (0)1442 224174 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 March 2002 13:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID advice needed [7:36955] BOYCOT THE CID! -- RFC 1149 Compliant. dk wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Hi All, Sorry if this question has been asked before but a brief look in the archives yielded no results. I'm studying for the CCDP and have only the CID exam left to take. I'm using the Cisco press book Cisco Internetwork design by Matthew Birkner. I'm about half way through it and I can't help feeling that the contents are at too high a level to be of help when sitting the exam.. Can anyone advise if my suspicion is correct and if so what would I be better off studying? Thanks David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37066t=36955 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
