Cisco courseware for CVOICE, CIPT, DQOS, and IPTT [7:63356]

2003-02-19 Thread David Blair
I am looking at buy Cisco courseware for CVOICE, CIPT, DQOS, and IPTT. I
have the CiscoPress books, but those do not have any labs. I am really
looking to find labs for the previously mentioned courses.


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Re: CVoice 9E0-423 [7:42952]

2002-11-12 Thread Aryo Handoko
Has anybody have CVOICE Materials??


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RE: CVOICE book: VoATM and VoFR [7:53909]

2002-09-23 Thread Tom Scott

Priscilla wrote:

 I have gotten quite a few of these simple voice/data
 networks up and running. It's very easy.  There is no Call
 Manager! And, as you mentioned, the major benefit is that
 you bypass long-distance charges because you simply use
 the existing data network. You may need to prioritize
 voice, and break up big data packets to get the low level
 of delay required for voice, but other than that, there's
 not much to it

For many purposes there's not much for the network
administrator to do, as you mention. In other contexts
such as a company that has a bunch of expensive PBXs that
have to be integrated onto the WAN portion of the data
network, one must exercise care to benefit from bypassing

PSTN and other legacy solutions.

Later steps can be taken to evolve to the full AVVID
solution discussed in the CIPT book, but for now I have to
focus on the Cvoice model, namely, using VoFR, VoATM and
VoIP to stop the hemorrhage of funds into legacy
long-distance voice networking. Getting those PBXs talking
to each other over an FR or ATM cloud is no small matter,
and the economic benefit is huge.


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 Original Message 
Subject: RE: CVOICE book: VoATM and VoFR [7:53567]
Date: 19 Sep 2002 00:29:26 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Priscilla Oppenheimer)
Organization: GroupStudy.com Discussion Groups
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco

Tom Scott wrote:
 
  Having asked about VoMPLS transcoding from analog voice to MPLS
  frames without intermediate IP packets, my lab partner noticed
  that the CVOICE book (edited by Steve McQuerry etal) discusses
  VoFR and VoATM (chapters 8 and 9):
 
 
  analog+---+ +---+  analog
  phone A1  |   |   ATM   |   |  phone B1
... | rtr A |  or FR  | rtr B |...
  analog    |   |  cloud  |   |  analog
  phone Ai  +---+ +---+  phone Bj
 
 
  Are we reading this correctly, that the analog phones plug into
  the cisco routers and the analog voice traffic is transformed
  into FR frames or ATM cells, with no IP packets in between?
  It makes sense to do it that way in some applications. For
  example, if you have a call center in a distant suburb across
  a LATA line or two, that services a metropolitan area, then
  you'd want to bypass long-distance charges if at all possible.
 
  This seems like an easy way to do it. But what handles the
  call control? Does the router do that? Some of the diagrams
  in the CVOICE book have no PBX (or CCM) in them. Does the
  router translate the call-control signaling from the analog
  phone into corresponding pass-through signaling in the ATM/FR
  packets (sort of like user-to-user signaling that could be
  passed through SS7, in this case the users are the routers
  and the network is the ATM/FR switches)?

Yup, you got it, although it may be even simpler than you imagine.

Before AVVID, Cisco did VoIP, VoFR, and VoATM, as discussed in the CVOICE
class. With these solutions, you simply connected analog phones to FXS ports
on routers. The routers digitized and compressed the dialed digits and the
voice itself and packetized it. If it was VoATM or VoFR, there was no IP.
The data was simply put into data-link-layer frames (or cells with ATM).

You asked about the call-control signaling from the analog phone, but how
much would there be? These phones would be your basic $5.99 KMart special
with no bells and whistles, so to speak. The router provides dial tone and
picks up the dialed digits and forwards them to the other router.

As you can probably tell, I'm not a telepony expert, but I have gotten quite
a few of these simple voice/data networks up and running. It's very easy.
There is no Call Manager! And, as you mentioned, the major benefit is that
you bypass long-distance charges because you simply use the existing data
network. You may need to prioritize voice, and break up big data packets to
get the low level of delay required for voice, but other than that, there's
not much to it. The original CVOICE class covered only these types of
solutions and I'm sure the book still has a lot of this flavor, although
both the book and the newer version of CVOICE also cover newer solutions too
these days probably.

___

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www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

 
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CVOICE book: VoATM and VoFR [7:53567]

2002-09-18 Thread Tom Scott

Having asked about VoMPLS transcoding from analog voice to MPLS
frames without intermediate IP packets, my lab partner noticed
that the CVOICE book (edited by Steve McQuerry etal) discusses
VoFR and VoATM (chapters 8 and 9):


analog+---+ +---+  analog
phone A1  |   |   ATM   |   |  phone B1
   ... | rtr A |  or FR  | rtr B |...
analog    |   |  cloud  |   |  analog
phone Ai  +---+ +---+  phone Bj


Are we reading this correctly, that the analog phones plug into
the cisco routers and the analog voice traffic is transformed
into FR frames or ATM cells, with no IP packets in between?
It makes sense to do it that way in some applications. For
example, if you have a call center in a distant suburb across
a LATA line or two, that services a metropolitan area, then
you'd want to bypass long-distance charges if at all possible.

This seems like an easy way to do it. But what handles the
call control? Does the router do that? Some of the diagrams
in the CVOICE book have no PBX (or CCM) in them. Does the
router translate the call-control signaling from the analog
phone into corresponding pass-through signaling in the ATM/FR
packets (sort of like user-to-user signaling that could be
passed through SS7, in this case the users are the routers
and the network is the ATM/FR switches)?

-- TT




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Re: CVOICE book: VoATM and VoFR [7:53567]

2002-09-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder

the router handles signaling.

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 Having asked about VoMPLS transcoding from analog voice to MPLS
 frames without intermediate IP packets, my lab partner noticed
 that the CVOICE book (edited by Steve McQuerry etal) discusses
 VoFR and VoATM (chapters 8 and 9):


 analog+---+ +---+  analog
 phone A1  |   |   ATM   |   |  phone B1
... | rtr A |  or FR  | rtr B |...
 analog    |   |  cloud  |   |  analog
 phone Ai  +---+ +---+  phone Bj


 Are we reading this correctly, that the analog phones plug into
 the cisco routers and the analog voice traffic is transformed
 into FR frames or ATM cells, with no IP packets in between?
 It makes sense to do it that way in some applications. For
 example, if you have a call center in a distant suburb across
 a LATA line or two, that services a metropolitan area, then
 you'd want to bypass long-distance charges if at all possible.

 This seems like an easy way to do it. But what handles the
 call control? Does the router do that? Some of the diagrams
 in the CVOICE book have no PBX (or CCM) in them. Does the
 router translate the call-control signaling from the analog
 phone into corresponding pass-through signaling in the ATM/FR
 packets (sort of like user-to-user signaling that could be
 passed through SS7, in this case the users are the routers
 and the network is the ATM/FR switches)?

 -- TT




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RE: CVOICE book: VoATM and VoFR [7:53567]

2002-09-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Tom Scott wrote:
 
 Having asked about VoMPLS transcoding from analog voice to MPLS
 frames without intermediate IP packets, my lab partner noticed
 that the CVOICE book (edited by Steve McQuerry etal) discusses
 VoFR and VoATM (chapters 8 and 9):
 
 
 analog+---+ +---+  analog
 phone A1  |   |   ATM   |   |  phone B1
... | rtr A |  or FR  | rtr B |...
 analog    |   |  cloud  |   |  analog
 phone Ai  +---+ +---+  phone Bj
 
 
 Are we reading this correctly, that the analog phones plug into
 the cisco routers and the analog voice traffic is transformed
 into FR frames or ATM cells, with no IP packets in between?
 It makes sense to do it that way in some applications. For
 example, if you have a call center in a distant suburb across
 a LATA line or two, that services a metropolitan area, then
 you'd want to bypass long-distance charges if at all possible.
 
 This seems like an easy way to do it. But what handles the
 call control? Does the router do that? Some of the diagrams
 in the CVOICE book have no PBX (or CCM) in them. Does the
 router translate the call-control signaling from the analog
 phone into corresponding pass-through signaling in the ATM/FR
 packets (sort of like user-to-user signaling that could be
 passed through SS7, in this case the users are the routers
 and the network is the ATM/FR switches)?

Yup, you got it, although it may be even simpler than you imagine.

Before AVVID, Cisco did VoIP, VoFR, and VoATM, as discussed in the CVOICE
class. With these solutions, you simply connected analog phones to FXS ports
on routers. The routers digitized and compressed the dialed digits and the
voice itself and packetized it. If it was VoATM or VoFR, there was no IP.
The data was simply put into data-link-layer frames (or cells with ATM).

You asked about the call-control signaling from the analog phone, but how
much would there be? These phones would be your basic $5.99 KMart special
with no bells and whistles, so to speak. The router provides dial tone and
picks up the dialed digits and forwards them to the other router.

As you can probably tell, I'm not a telepony expert, but I have gotten quite
a few of these simple voice/data networks up and running. It's very easy.
There is no Call Manager! And, as you mentioned, the major benefit is that
you bypass long-distance charges because you simply use the existing data
network. You may need to prioritize voice, and break up big data packets to
get the low level of delay required for voice, but other than that, there's
not much to it. The original CVOICE class covered only these types of
solutions and I'm sure the book still has a lot of this flavor, although
both the book and the newer version of CVOICE also cover newer solutions too
these days probably.

___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

 
 -- TT
 
 




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Re: CVOICE book: VoATM and VoFR [7:53567]

2002-09-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I don't think much has changed from the old days.  I know there's a ton of
new h.323 features, but those aren't in CVOICE.  And most aren't used in
simple networks.  The VoFR stuff will probably go away.

SIP's the new thing, but not there yet

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Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
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 Tom Scott wrote:
 
  Having asked about VoMPLS transcoding from analog voice to MPLS
  frames without intermediate IP packets, my lab partner noticed
  that the CVOICE book (edited by Steve McQuerry etal) discusses
  VoFR and VoATM (chapters 8 and 9):
 
 
  analog+---+ +---+  analog
  phone A1  |   |   ATM   |   |  phone B1
 ... | rtr A |  or FR  | rtr B |...
  analog    |   |  cloud  |   |  analog
  phone Ai  +---+ +---+  phone Bj
 
 
  Are we reading this correctly, that the analog phones plug into
  the cisco routers and the analog voice traffic is transformed
  into FR frames or ATM cells, with no IP packets in between?
  It makes sense to do it that way in some applications. For
  example, if you have a call center in a distant suburb across
  a LATA line or two, that services a metropolitan area, then
  you'd want to bypass long-distance charges if at all possible.
 
  This seems like an easy way to do it. But what handles the
  call control? Does the router do that? Some of the diagrams
  in the CVOICE book have no PBX (or CCM) in them. Does the
  router translate the call-control signaling from the analog
  phone into corresponding pass-through signaling in the ATM/FR
  packets (sort of like user-to-user signaling that could be
  passed through SS7, in this case the users are the routers
  and the network is the ATM/FR switches)?

 Yup, you got it, although it may be even simpler than you imagine.

 Before AVVID, Cisco did VoIP, VoFR, and VoATM, as discussed in the CVOICE
 class. With these solutions, you simply connected analog phones to FXS
ports
 on routers. The routers digitized and compressed the dialed digits and the
 voice itself and packetized it. If it was VoATM or VoFR, there was no IP.
 The data was simply put into data-link-layer frames (or cells with ATM).

 You asked about the call-control signaling from the analog phone, but how
 much would there be? These phones would be your basic $5.99 KMart special
 with no bells and whistles, so to speak. The router provides dial tone and
 picks up the dialed digits and forwards them to the other router.

 As you can probably tell, I'm not a telepony expert, but I have gotten
quite
 a few of these simple voice/data networks up and running. It's very easy.
 There is no Call Manager! And, as you mentioned, the major benefit is that
 you bypass long-distance charges because you simply use the existing data
 network. You may need to prioritize voice, and break up big data packets
to
 get the low level of delay required for voice, but other than that,
there's
 not much to it. The original CVOICE class covered only these types of
 solutions and I'm sure the book still has a lot of this flavor, although
 both the book and the newer version of CVOICE also cover newer solutions
too
 these days probably.

 ___

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
 www.priscilla.com

 
  -- TT




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Passing Mark for CVOICE (9E0-423) exam [7:46438]

2002-06-13 Thread blitzlight

Hi,

Does anyone know what's the passing mark for CVOICE 9E0-423 exam?

cheers!




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CVoice 9E0-423 [7:42952]

2002-05-01 Thread Jim Yam

Has anybody taken the CVoice 9E0-423 test?
Does it have a lot of  IOS command fill-in questions.
I wonder why it needs to be a 3 hours and 133 questions test.

Jim




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Re: CVoice 9E0-423 [7:42952]

2002-05-01 Thread Steven A. Ridder

It's a tough, broad reaching test.  It does have a ton of IOS questions, as
well as hardware.


Jim Yam  wrote in message
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 Has anybody taken the CVoice 9E0-423 test?
 Does it have a lot of  IOS command fill-in questions.
 I wonder why it needs to be a 3 hours and 133 questions test.

 Jim




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CVOICE [7:42398]

2002-04-23 Thread Dave Luancing

does anyone have any insight to which Boson is good
for CVOICE

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Re: CVOICE [7:42398]

2002-04-23 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Boson 2.
Know it all, as it's an extensive, broad test.

Steve

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Boson CVoice [7:39768]

2002-03-28 Thread Semion Lisyansky

Hello List,

I'm preparing to take CVoice exam  9E0-423.
I consider to purcase Boson preparation test
and would appreciate any recommendations about
which one to choose - first, second or both?
  

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Best CVoice on the west coast [7:37212]

2002-03-04 Thread William Pearch

I'm looking for information on training providers that do an excellent job
of delivering the CVOICE class.  I finally work for a company that wants to
invest in my skill set!
 
TIA,
Bill Pearch, Anchorage AK




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Re: CVoice or IPT 3.1 first [7:35123]

2002-02-12 Thread SF

Thank You guys.

Regards
SF

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Hi Guys,

I am planning to do Cvoice and IPT 3.1. Any idea which one to take first?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Thanks
SF




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Re: CVoice exam practice questions [7:33039]

2002-01-24 Thread David L. Blair

Free no, but for a small price goto www.boson.com .

David Blair

Shawn Xu  wrote in message
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 Does anybody know a web site that has free CVoice exam practice questions?
 like
 http://www.examcram.com/insider/66/news.asp does, but this site does
include
 CVoice exam.

 Any info will be appreciated.

 Shawn Xu

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Re: CVoice exam practice questions [7:33039]

2002-01-24 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Purchase number 2 if you do.  Number 1 is too easy.

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CVoice exam practice questions [7:33039]

2002-01-23 Thread Shawn Xu

Does anybody know a web site that has free CVoice exam practice questions? 
like
http://www.examcram.com/insider/66/news.asp does, but this site does include 
CVoice exam.

Any info will be appreciated.

Shawn Xu

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CVOICE Exam 9E0-423 [7:31121]

2002-01-07 Thread Waleed Samir

Dear all

Happy New Year

I am planning to take the CVOICE Exam.
can any one help me how to prepare for this exam and if it differ than the
CCNP exams

Thanks,,




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Re: CVOICE [7:22000]

2001-10-05 Thread Cisco Breaker

Questions like how many voice ports cisco 3660 series have or how many calls
can cisco mcs3810 handle? And also questions about quality of service.

Best regards,


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 Congrats, what sort of questions did you get? I've been thinking of taking
 the voice exam for sometime but haven't because I thought the exams are
only
 for Cisco partners and I'm working for a end user at the moment.

 Regards

 Patrick

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  Passed . Questions about ports on 36xx and 26xx series was hard.
 
  best regards,
 
 
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   I am taking CVOICE exam in a few hours. Any last minute advice would
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Re: CVOICE [7:22000]

2001-10-04 Thread Cisco Breaker

Passed . Questions about ports on 36xx and 26xx series was hard.

best regards,


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Re: CVOICE [7:22000]

2001-10-04 Thread Patrick Donlon

Congrats, what sort of questions did you get? I've been thinking of taking
the voice exam for sometime but haven't because I thought the exams are only
for Cisco partners and I'm working for a end user at the moment.

Regards

Patrick

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 Passed . Questions about ports on 36xx and 26xx series was hard.

 best regards,


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  I am taking CVOICE exam in a few hours. Any last minute advice would be
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CVOICE [7:22000]

2001-10-03 Thread Cisco Breaker

I am taking CVOICE exam in a few hours. Any last minute advice would be
appraciated.

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CVOICE [7:20562]

2001-09-20 Thread Cisco Breaker

Hi All,

I am planning to take CVOICE exam so I have a few questions about the topics
regarding the exam.

Approximately how many questions will be about the commands, and are there
any questions about AVVID.

Best regards,




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For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061]

2001-07-28 Thread Greg Macaulay

FYI

I discovered this page on CCO by accident.  Hope it helps those who are
preparing for CVoice

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml


Greg Macaulay
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Re: For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061]

2001-07-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greg,

Good post on a reference URL for VoIP.  I will be taking  Cisco IP Voice 
class next week and will refer to some of these links.

TNX

Note: However, you'll have to revise your signature as I think for the
moment
I am
most likely the Oldest and Bald CCIE wannabe  ;-) at age 59 3/4

Ray
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FYI

I discovered this page on CCO by accident.  Hope it helps those who are
preparing for CVoice

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml


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CVOICE 640-647 [7:6402]

2001-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all !
does anyone know the pass percentage for the exam 640 647 CVOICE.
Thnaks.
Niloufer




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Re: CVOICE 640-647 [7:6402]

2001-05-30 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

Hi
Passing score is 700.
BTW, the exam is already retired as May 15.

HTH

Engelhard M. Labiro
Netmarks Inc.
3rd Group, Network Solution Department, Technology  Eng. Division
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Re: CVOICE 640-647 [7:6402]

2001-05-30 Thread Laszlo Csosza

Hi!

 Passing score is 700.
 BTW, the exam is already retired as May 15.


640-447 is retired and the replacement is 640-647...
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/endoflife.htm


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Re: CVOICE 640-647 [7:6402]

2001-05-30 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

Laszlo,
CVOICE 640-647 is retired also as CCNP Specialization exam,
as May 14, 2001. However it still available for Cisco Partner qualification.
HTH

Engelhard M. Labiro
Netmarks Inc.
3rd Group, Network Solution Department, Technology  Eng. Division
1-3-12 Moto Akasaka, Minato-Ku, Tokyo, Japan 107


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Hi!

 Passing score is 700.
 BTW, the exam is already retired as May 15.


640-447 is retired and the replacement is 640-647...
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/endoflife.ht
m


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CVOICE Materials [7:5617]

2001-05-23 Thread Christopher Young

Does anyone have any suggestions on study materials for the CVOICE exam?
Study guides, etc...

thanks,

Christopher




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Re: CVOICE Materials [7:5617]

2001-05-23 Thread Circusnuts

Yes- I just ordered them all from BAM yesterday...

1  1578702275 CISCO VOICE OVER FRAME RELAY A   43.20
1  1578701686 VOICE OVER IP FUNDAMENTALS   45.00
 1  1578701961 VOICE DATA INTEGRATION ON CISC   39.60

Phil

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CVoice Exam [7:5364]

2001-05-21 Thread Stewart Andrews

I am currently studying for the CVoice specialisation.
Has anyone taken this exam who can recommend any books or suitable study
aids???


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Re: CVoice Exam [7:5364]

2001-05-21 Thread Brad McConnell

Someone please let me know if I'm mistaken on this, but I think you'll find
it a difficult certification to attain --

The CVOICE exam has retired.

-Brad McConnell.

..Integrating voice and data networks still looks to be the strongest
ciscopress book out on the topic, IMHO.


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RE: CVoice Exam [7:5364]

2001-05-21 Thread Tim Medley

The CVoice exam was retired on May 15th, 2001. It may or may not
reappear in the future.

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Re: CVoice Exam [7:5364]

2001-05-21 Thread Tighe Kuykendall

I just checked CCO and CVOICE (640-647) is still listed as an active exam,
but it's now
a Partner Specialization Exam instead of a Career Certifications Exam.

Have a look at the bottom of
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/exam_list.htm

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CVoice [7:4394]

2001-05-14 Thread Edmund Woltynski

Hi Study Folk

Just dropping a line to thank the group for the support and advice that
was given - I knocked off this test successfully this afternoon at the
eleventh hour (May 14 here - the US is still catching up).

A pity it has been relegated to the lapsed category. Just a comment, I
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RE: CVoice [7:4394]

2001-05-14 Thread Tim Medley

congratulations. Glad I could be of help.

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Just dropping a line to thank the group for the support and advice that
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A pity it has been relegated to the lapsed category. Just a comment, I
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CVOICE question [7:2937]

2001-05-02 Thread Omer Ehsan Dar

Hi all,
I wanted to know if anybody knows where I can get the cvoice materials
other than the student guide. As I understand it the new exam has all
the previous exam's contents but that they have been updated the rumour
around here is that the new exam is going to be split up into VoIP,
VATM, VoFR. 
If someone can send me the student guid eI would be grateful. Is the
Voice over IP book good for this exam.
Any other materials will be helpful plz send me the links a ny helpful
web sites.
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Re: CVOICE - Cisco Voice Over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP [7:2537]

2001-04-30 Thread Edmund Woltynski

Michael

I am using Caputo - Cisco Packetized Voice  Data Integration ISBN
0-07-134777-1 it is good read but will require additional supplementary
information (eg CIPT hardware etc)- but most on the list seem to
recommend Integrating Voice and Data Networks by Scott Keagy (I have
ordered it bit I won't see it before my test - takes two or more weeks
to get to the bookstore)

Another recent addition is Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM and IP 
ISBN
1578702275 (have not read it can't say much more)

There is also good supplementary information at
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/recertifications/multiserv_blueprint.html

Good luck!

Michael Bambic wrote:
 
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CVOICE [7:2233]

2001-04-27 Thread Cooper, David

As usual Cisco has released a great book for the CVoice test from Cisco
Press and then cancelled the cert a month later. Better late then never
right?  Its called Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM and IP  ISBN
1578702275. This is the book to based on the CVoice course...

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RE: Cvoice [7:2213]

2001-04-27 Thread Medley, Tim

Edmund,

The Cisco Packetized Voice  Data Integration by Robert Caputo is a great
reference. I also like Integrating Voice and Data Networks by Scott Keagy.

The cvoice test realy hits hard on dial-peer's, voip and vofr. There were
some voatm questions but they were few and pretty generic.

I think I have some slides and notes from the cvoic class I took, i'll see
if I can dig them up and email them over to you.

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I see and I believe
I do and I understand
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Greetings All

Just been told that I must get Cvoice before 14 May - (by boss - partner
relations etc Yada Yada). There is no cvoice course running in this town
so it is a self study trip. To cut a long story short, I am in the
process of gathering study material for an assault on this thing - have
some experience with implementing small implementations of toll-bypass
VoIP  VoFR 12 months back but no VoATM. Managed to get a copy of Caputo
- Cisco Packetized Voice  Data Integration, Keagy's book won't get here
in time. The Cisco web site is thin on outline and some smatterings of
information from the group archives. I gather 2600, 3600, AS5300 MC3810
are the focal points for this stuff.

Can any kind soul who has recently done the CVoice 2.1 course throw any
pointers/advice my way before they throw me down the cellar with some
routers and a side of  lamb and padlock the door for a week (I wish) ?

Thanks -
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CVOICE - Cisco Voice Over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP (640-647) [7:2311]

2001-04-27 Thread Michael Bambic

Anybody know a good book for this Exam?
I can't seem to find one.
Thanks!

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RE: CVOICE - Cisco Voice Over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP [7:2314]

2001-04-27 Thread Edward Gomez

Mike,

Try Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP
Author: Steve McQuerry, CCNP SRP: $60.00 
ISBN: 1578702275 Pages: 500 
Pub Date: Apr 2001 Media: none 
 
http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=184


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Re: CVOICE - Cisco Voice Over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP [7:2314]

2001-04-27 Thread Tony

Does anyone know if this follows the CVOICE course material/objectives
closely?


Tony



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 http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=184


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Cvoice [7:2213]

2001-04-26 Thread Edmund Woltynski

Greetings All

Just been told that I must get Cvoice before 14 May - (by boss - partner
relations etc Yada Yada). There is no cvoice course running in this town
so it is a self study trip. To cut a long story short, I am in the
process of gathering study material for an assault on this thing - have
some experience with implementing small implementations of toll-bypass
VoIP  VoFR 12 months back but no VoATM. Managed to get a copy of Caputo
- Cisco Packetized Voice  Data Integration, Keagy's book won't get here
in time. The Cisco web site is thin on outline and some smatterings of
information from the group archives. I gather 2600, 3600, AS5300 MC3810
are the focal points for this stuff.

Can any kind soul who has recently done the CVoice 2.1 course throw any
pointers/advice my way before they throw me down the cellar with some
routers and a side of  lamb and padlock the door for a week (I wish) ?

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RE: Cvoice [7:2213]

2001-04-26 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I don't know if this will help, but there are a couple of CVoice test
modules available on the boson site. Same $30 as everything else.

--- Dennis

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Subject: Cvoice [7:2213]

Greetings All

Just been told that I must get Cvoice before 14 May - (by boss - partner
relations etc Yada Yada). There is no cvoice course running in this town
so it is a self study trip. To cut a long story short, I am in the
process of gathering study material for an assault on this thing - have
some experience with implementing small implementations of toll-bypass
VoIP  VoFR 12 months back but no VoATM. Managed to get a copy of Caputo
- Cisco Packetized Voice  Data Integration, Keagy's book won't get here
in time. The Cisco web site is thin on outline and some smatterings of
information from the group archives. I gather 2600, 3600, AS5300 MC3810
are the focal points for this stuff.

Can any kind soul who has recently done the CVoice 2.1 course throw any
pointers/advice my way before they throw me down the cellar with some
routers and a side of  lamb and padlock the door for a week (I wish) ?

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Passed Cvoice 2.0

2001-04-02 Thread Akinmade, Adetola (KNMD)

Thanks Group,

I passed the cvoice exam on friday.

it was a fine Exam in all ,extremely detailed .
This is one of the rare cisco exams that was well worded,nothing ambiguos.
Thanks for all who have assisted through their postings to this great group.


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cvoice

2001-03-31 Thread umer khan

hello,
can anyone confirm the news that cisco is going to terminate the cvoice
certification. are they going to integrate this paper with something else.?

umer
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Re: cvoice

2001-03-31 Thread Arthur Stewart

To answer your first question, read:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

Previously Cisco's specialized certifications were primarily CCNP+(pick 1 of
5).  The new direction is specialties without CCNP.  Also, the CCIE
Communications and Services Track has 8 specializations.

Arthur Stewart CCNP

"umer khan" wrote in message 012101c0b9fc$4a95c3c0$4b0b80cb@umer...
hello,
can anyone confirm the news that cisco is going to terminate the cvoice
certification. are they going to integrate this paper with something else.?

umer
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Cvoice

2001-03-29 Thread Ruddy Cordero

For you guys and girls that have CVOICE
specializations. Do cisco send you a certificate or
card for passing the CVOICE?

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RE: Cvoice

2001-03-29 Thread Dmitry Kuzin

When I was pass my CVOICE exam, I've got nothing... :(

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CCDP or CVOICE Advice

2001-03-29 Thread Ruddy Cordero

I just finished by CCNP and I would like to go ahead with my CVOICE =
specialization. I work for VoIP company and it would help me a bit to =
have but CVOICE is going to be eliminated and there is no cert. or ID to =
recognized you as having a voice specialization. My question is: Should =
I continue with my studies or should I just study for my CCDP?

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RE: CCDP or CVOICE Advice

2001-03-29 Thread Vijay Ramcharan

Since you're in the groove, you could just take your 2 exams and get the
CCDP.  I did the same and finished CCDP in a couple of months.

Vijay Ramcharan


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Subject: CCDP or CVOICE Advice


I just finished by CCNP and I would like to go ahead with my CVOICE =
specialization. I work for VoIP company and it would help me a bit to =
have but CVOICE is going to be eliminated and there is no cert. or ID to =
recognized you as having a voice specialization. My question is: Should =
I continue with my studies or should I just study for my CCDP?

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Re: CCDP or CVOICE Advice

2001-03-29 Thread Ruddy Cordero

I have my CCDA so all I need is CID. So you think that CVOICE is not worth
taking the test for. I just started reading the book but If I don't have to
I wont take the test.

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 Since you're in the groove, you could just take your 2 exams and get the
 CCDP.  I did the same and finished CCDP in a couple of months.

 Vijay Ramcharan


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 I just finished by CCNP and I would like to go ahead with my CVOICE =
 specialization. I work for VoIP company and it would help me a bit to =
 have but CVOICE is going to be eliminated and there is no cert. or ID to =
 recognized you as having a voice specialization. My question is: Should =
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RE: CCDP or CVOICE Advice

2001-03-29 Thread Buri, Heather H

well, I guess it depends on what is more important to you.  I personally
would go for the one that interests you and not worry about a "paper
certificate" as much.  

But that is just my .02 cents.

Heather Buri   
CSC Technology Services - Houston

Phone:  (713)-961-8592
Fax:(713)-961-8249
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I just finished by CCNP and I would like to go ahead with my CVOICE =
specialization. I work for VoIP company and it would help me a bit to =
have but CVOICE is going to be eliminated and there is no cert. or ID to =
recognized you as having a voice specialization. My question is: Should =
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Re: CCDP or CVOICE Advice

2001-03-29 Thread Allen May

Woohoo!  Another 2 cents!

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 well, I guess it depends on what is more important to you.  I personally
 would go for the one that interests you and not worry about a "paper
 certificate" as much.

 But that is just my .02 cents.

 Heather Buri
 CSC Technology Services - Houston

 Phone: (713)-961-8592
 Fax: (713)-961-8249
 Mobile:
 Alpha Page:

 Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd
   Suite 500
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 -Original Message-
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 I just finished by CCNP and I would like to go ahead with my CVOICE =
 specialization. I work for VoIP company and it would help me a bit to =
 have but CVOICE is going to be eliminated and there is no cert. or ID to =
 recognized you as having a voice specialization. My question is: Should =
 I continue with my studies or should I just study for my CCDP?

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RE: Is CVOICE1.0(1998) enough for CVOICE 2.0 Beta?

2001-03-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

The CVOICE Version 2.0 (current version) class covers AVVID. See here for 
the CVOICE course objectives.

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=CourseDescCOURSE_ID=1359

Unfortunately, I don't think Cisco ever published any test objectives. I 
don't know if the test is based on CVOICE1 or CVOICE2. Regardless, 
according to this link, the CVOICE specialization is going away as of May 14th.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

Priscilla

At 01:03 PM 7/13/00, Ibrahim wrote:


Last time you said (If I'm not wrong) there will be  Call Manager (AVVID)
topic in the next CVOICE certification. It's true ?


Ibam

  One main feature of CVOICE 2.0 is that they removed the first two
  chapters
  on analog and digital voice technologies to make more time for hands-on
  labs. So you actually have less to study for the CVOICE 2.0 test.
 
  Other than that, CVOICE 2.0 is mostly an update. Cisco's story on QoS for
  Frame Relay is ever changing, so you should check the latest "Configuring
  Voice over Frame Relay" document here:
 
  http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/12
1cgcr/multi_c/mcprt1/mcdvofr.htm



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RE: Is CVOICE1.0(1998) enough for CVOICE 2.0 Beta?

2001-03-13 Thread Ryan Ngai Hon Kong

I'd took my CVOICE ver 1 training in S'pore 3 weeks ago.
According to the instructor the CVOICE 2.0 is basically
a subset of CVOICE 1.0 but their material are much more
organized. However in the CVOICE 2.0 exam, you can expect
the question more towards PBXes (told my the instructor).

Taking the exam next week. 
Good luck everyone.

Ryan

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:18 AM
To: Ibrahim; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Is CVOICE1.0(1998) enough for CVOICE 2.0 Beta?


The CVOICE Version 2.0 (current version) class covers AVVID. See here for 
the CVOICE course objectives.

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours
eDescCOURSE_ID=1359

Unfortunately, I don't think Cisco ever published any test objectives. I 
don't know if the test is based on CVOICE1 or CVOICE2. Regardless, 
according to this link, the CVOICE specialization is going away as of May
14th.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

Priscilla

At 01:03 PM 7/13/00, Ibrahim wrote:


Last time you said (If I'm not wrong) there will be  Call Manager (AVVID)
topic in the next CVOICE certification. It's true ?


Ibam

  One main feature of CVOICE 2.0 is that they removed the first two
  chapters
  on analog and digital voice technologies to make more time for hands-on
  labs. So you actually have less to study for the CVOICE 2.0 test.
 
  Other than that, CVOICE 2.0 is mostly an update. Cisco's story on QoS
for
  Frame Relay is ever changing, so you should check the latest
"Configuring
  Voice over Frame Relay" document here:
 
  http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/12
1cgcr/multi_c/mcprt1/mcdvofr.htm



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RE: Is CVOICE1.0(1998) enough for CVOICE 2.0 Beta?

2001-03-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

CVOICE2 isn't a subset of CVOICE1, though they did remove the sections on 
basic analog and digital voice technologies. They also added AVVID material 
and a section on PBXes.

I helped work on CVOICE2. It's been out for quite a while. I'm surprised 
that your class was still CVOICE1.

I don't know the status of the test, though. Is it based on CVOICE1 or 
CVOICE2?? Cisco's info links to the new version of the class, which implies 
that the test is based on CVOICE2, which means you'll have questions on 
AVVID and PBXes. See this URL:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-647.html

Has anyone taken CVOICE recently? Did you have questions on AVVID and PBXes?

Good luck on your test!

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 3/14/01, Ryan Ngai Hon Kong wrote:
I'd took my CVOICE ver 1 training in S'pore 3 weeks ago.
According to the instructor the CVOICE 2.0 is basically
a subset of CVOICE 1.0 but their material are much more
organized. However in the CVOICE 2.0 exam, you can expect
the question more towards PBXes (told my the instructor).

Taking the exam next week.
Good luck everyone.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:18 AM
To: Ibrahim; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Is CVOICE1.0(1998) enough for CVOICE 2.0 Beta?


The CVOICE Version 2.0 (current version) class covers AVVID. See here for
the CVOICE course objectives.

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours
eDescCOURSE_ID=1359

Unfortunately, I don't think Cisco ever published any test objectives. I
don't know if the test is based on CVOICE1 or CVOICE2. Regardless,
according to this link, the CVOICE specialization is going away as of May
14th.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

Priscilla

At 01:03 PM 7/13/00, Ibrahim wrote:


 Last time you said (If I'm not wrong) there will be  Call Manager (AVVID)
 topic in the next CVOICE certification. It's true ?
 
 
 Ibam
 
   One main feature of CVOICE 2.0 is that they removed the first two
   chapters
   on analog and digital voice technologies to make more time for hands-on
   labs. So you actually have less to study for the CVOICE 2.0 test.
  
   Other than that, CVOICE 2.0 is mostly an update. Cisco's story on QoS
for
   Frame Relay is ever changing, so you should check the latest
"Configuring
   Voice over Frame Relay" document here:
  
   http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/12
 1cgcr/multi_c/mcprt1/mcdvofr.htm
 




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CVOICE 2.0 Beta version

2001-02-20 Thread Grad Alfons Kanon

Hellooo all,

If somebody has the questions that comeout from CVOICE 2.0 Beta / Real exam, 
I can trade with MCNS 2.0 Beta/ Real exam questions, guarranted !!

Just reply directly to my email

tx..

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Which CVOICE book???

2001-02-15 Thread Zabludovsky, Mark A

Hi Group,
Wanted to know which book/s I should read to prep for the CVOICE
specialization exam. I like Lammle's style of writing (understandable). I
don't just want to pass the test cause I think that voice is gonna be huge,
so I also want a book that will teach my what I need to know. Anybody that
has taken the test or read any of these books please help me out. I want to
place my order asap on the book. Thanks,

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
Saint Gobain WAN Team
Cisco Network Specialist
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Re: Which CVOICE book???

2001-02-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

"Integrating Voice and Data Networks," by Scott Keagy. It's a book for 
engineers, not just test takers. If you like simple books that are thrown 
together as fast as possible to get market share, you might not like this 
book. But if you like books that are detailed, accurate, and relevant, this 
book is superb.

Priscilla

At 11:21 AM 2/15/01, Zabludovsky, Mark A wrote:
Hi Group,
 Wanted to know which book/s I should read to prep for the CVOICE
specialization exam. I like Lammle's style of writing (understandable). I
don't just want to pass the test cause I think that voice is gonna be huge,
so I also want a book that will teach my what I need to know. Anybody that
has taken the test or read any of these books please help me out. I want to
place my order asap on the book. Thanks,

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNP, CCDA
Saint Gobain WAN Team
Cisco Network Specialist
Work: (610) 341-7678
Mobile: (267) 981-1123


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cvoice book

2001-02-13 Thread brain

hello

has anyone used the book 'Voice over IP , Frame Relay and Atm'.and if =
yes how do u rate this boook for the prepration of cvoice certification.

thanx=20

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Re: cvoice

2001-02-04 Thread UmerKhan

thanx for the input.but pls guide me what is the criteria for completing a
certification, passing the paper or getting the certificate. and isnt the
result card alone ample proof of my passing the certifiaction.
how serious is the "official" as you refered to it.:)


thanx
umer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: "ItsMe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: cvoice


 True, you can take any test you want , but have to complete all
prequisites,
 to be "official".
 ""umerkhan"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 004e01c08dfc$e84cdbc0$a90a80cb@pentium686">news:004e01c08dfc$e84cdbc0$a90a80cb@pentium686...
  Hi,
  can anyone tell me is it necessary to pass the ccnp certification in =
  order to take the cvoice 2.0 exam. i have checked with the cisco website
=
  and only acrc (or bscn ) and ccna are written in the prequisites. a =
  friend of mine was telling me that you can appear for the exam but wont
=
  get the certificate before passing the whole of ccnp , is it true.?
 
  regards,
  umer=20
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Re: cvoice

2001-02-04 Thread ItsMe

Well for cvoice for instance, you have to be a CCNP to earn the
specialization:


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html

""UmerKhan"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
01c08e90$d95c17e0$3e0b80cb@pentium686">news:01c08e90$d95c17e0$3e0b80cb@pentium686...
 thanx for the input.but pls guide me what is the criteria for completing a
 certification, passing the paper or getting the certificate. and isnt the
 result card alone ample proof of my passing the certifiaction.
 how serious is the "official" as you refered to it.:)


 thanx
 umer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 From: "ItsMe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 8:17 AM
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  True, you can take any test you want , but have to complete all
 prequisites,
  to be "official".
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   Hi,
   can anyone tell me is it necessary to pass the ccnp certification in =
   order to take the cvoice 2.0 exam. i have checked with the cisco
website
 =
   and only acrc (or bscn ) and ccna are written in the prequisites. a =
   friend of mine was telling me that you can appear for the exam but
wont
 =
   get the certificate before passing the whole of ccnp , is it true.?
  
   regards,
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cvoice

2001-02-03 Thread umerkhan

Hi,
can anyone tell me is it necessary to pass the ccnp certification in =
order to take the cvoice 2.0 exam. i have checked with the cisco website =
and only acrc (or bscn ) and ccna are written in the prequisites. a =
friend of mine was telling me that you can appear for the exam but wont =
get the certificate before passing the whole of ccnp , is it true.?

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Re: cvoice

2001-02-03 Thread ItsMe

True, you can take any test you want , but have to complete all prequisites,
to be "official".
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 can anyone tell me is it necessary to pass the ccnp certification in =
 order to take the cvoice 2.0 exam. i have checked with the cisco website =
 and only acrc (or bscn ) and ccna are written in the prequisites. a =
 friend of mine was telling me that you can appear for the exam but wont =
 get the certificate before passing the whole of ccnp , is it true.?

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Re: CVoice problem....

2001-02-02 Thread Edmund Woltynski

Check your IOS versions - the earlier versions were buggy (we had the same problem with
 12.05) - I seem to recall something along the lines of ver 12.05XK or 12.0(7)XK- was
the minimum spec. The latest IOS 12.1 IP Plus works just fine. Check CCO.

Andrew Larkins wrote:

 We had the same problem here - all configs the same, but a dial is garbled.
 The only solution was to upgrade the software to the same version

 -Original Message-
 From: Mustafa Kemal Furat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 February 2001 14:44
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CVoice problem

 Hello,
 Help!...  I have a problem
 One of our  customer using

 2600 (IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IS-M), Version 12.0(2a), RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1) series
 FXS and FXO voice cards
 and

 3640 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 EM voice cards

 on their WAN and running VoIP, We replaced the 3640 with a

 3660 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1)
 FXS voice cards

 Now we have voice problem. Whenever we try to place a call we hear only some
 strange noises

 Do you know the reason?... or can we solve it?... (Any solution other than
 IOS upgrade will be highly appriciated)

 Thanx

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RE: CVoice problem....

2001-02-02 Thread Mustafa Kemal Furat

NO ...
I tried it too...

-Original Message-
From: Edmund Woltynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CVoice problem


Check your IOS versions - the earlier versions were buggy (we had the same
problem with
 12.05) - I seem to recall something along the lines of ver 12.05XK or
12.0(7)XK- was
the minimum spec. The latest IOS 12.1 IP Plus works just fine. Check CCO.

Andrew Larkins wrote:

 We had the same problem here - all configs the same, but a dial is
garbled.
 The only solution was to upgrade the software to the same version

 -Original Message-
 From: Mustafa Kemal Furat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 February 2001 14:44
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CVoice problem

 Hello,
 Help!...  I have a problem
 One of our  customer using

 2600 (IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IS-M), Version 12.0(2a), RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1) series
 FXS and FXO voice cards
 and

 3640 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE
SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 EM voice cards

 on their WAN and running VoIP, We replaced the 3640 with a

 3660 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1)
 FXS voice cards

 Now we have voice problem. Whenever we try to place a call we hear only
some
 strange noises

 Do you know the reason?... or can we solve it?... (Any solution other than
 IOS upgrade will be highly appriciated)

 Thanx

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Re: CVoice problem....

2001-02-02 Thread Chris Boyd

Is it safe to assume you were running all of these software verions 12.08T?
That could be your problem.I have 3 3640's and 1 3660 running 12.1(2)T
and it runs fine using VOIPjust my .02...good luck


Thanks,

Chris Boyd, CCNA
Network Support
828.323.4103
Alex Lee, Inc.
120 4th St SW
Hickory, NC 28602
www.alexlee.com
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To: "Edmund Woltynski" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: CVoice problem


 NO ...
 I tried it too...

 -Original Message-
 From: Edmund Woltynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CVoice problem


 Check your IOS versions - the earlier versions were buggy (we had the same
 problem with
  12.05) - I seem to recall something along the lines of ver 12.05XK or
 12.0(7)XK- was
 the minimum spec. The latest IOS 12.1 IP Plus works just fine. Check CCO.

 Andrew Larkins wrote:

  We had the same problem here - all configs the same, but a dial is
 garbled.
  The only solution was to upgrade the software to the same version
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mustafa Kemal Furat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 01 February 2001 14:44
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: CVoice problem
 
  Hello,
  Help!...  I have a problem
  One of our  customer using
 
  2600 (IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IS-M), Version 12.0(2a), RELEASE
  SOFTWARE (fc1) series
  FXS and FXO voice cards
  and
 
  3640 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE
 SOFTWARE
  (fc1)
  EM voice cards
 
  on their WAN and running VoIP, We replaced the 3640 with a
 
  3660 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE
  SOFTWARE (fc1)
  FXS voice cards
 
  Now we have voice problem. Whenever we try to place a call we hear only
 some
  strange noises
 
  Do you know the reason?... or can we solve it?... (Any solution other
than
  IOS upgrade will be highly appriciated)
 
  Thanx
 
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CVoice problem....

2001-02-01 Thread Mustafa Kemal Furat

Hello,
Help!...  I have a problem
One of our  customer using 

2600 (IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IS-M), Version 12.0(2a), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1) series 
FXS and FXO voice cards
and 

3640 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
EM voice cards

on their WAN and running VoIP, We replaced the 3640 with a 

3660 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
FXS voice cards

Now we have voice problem. Whenever we try to place a call we hear only some
strange noises

Do you know the reason?... or can we solve it?... (Any solution other than
IOS upgrade will be highly appriciated)

Thanx 






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RE: CVoice problem....

2001-02-01 Thread Andrew Larkins

We had the same problem here - all configs the same, but a dial is garbled.
The only solution was to upgrade the software to the same version

-Original Message-
From: Mustafa Kemal Furat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 February 2001 14:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CVoice problem


Hello,
Help!...  I have a problem
One of our  customer using 

2600 (IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IS-M), Version 12.0(2a), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1) series 
FXS and FXO voice cards
and 

3640 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
EM voice cards

on their WAN and running VoIP, We replaced the 3640 with a 

3660 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
FXS voice cards

Now we have voice problem. Whenever we try to place a call we hear only some
strange noises

Do you know the reason?... or can we solve it?... (Any solution other than
IOS upgrade will be highly appriciated)

Thanx 






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BOSON CVOICE

2001-01-08 Thread Austin

Has anyone used the Boson CVOICE Practice tests in preparation for the
CVOICE test?
Would you recommend it to help prepare for the exam?


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Re: BOSON CVOICE

2001-01-08 Thread Arthur Stewart

Do you mean the retired Boson CVoice 1.0 tests?

"Austin" wrote in message 93covl$19g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
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CVOICE

2000-12-26 Thread Austin

Can anyone give me some recommended resources to use to prepare for the
CVOICE exam?
How are the Boson Practise Tests for this exam.
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Re: CVOICE

2000-12-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

"Integrating Voice and Data Networks" by Scott Keagy, Cisco Press, 2000.

At 09:55 AM 12/26/00, Austin wrote:
Can anyone give me some recommended resources to use to prepare for the
CVOICE exam?
How are the Boson Practise Tests for this exam.
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CVOICE

2000-12-18 Thread C.M Leong

Hi :

   Does anyone of you have CVOICE course book,
especially chapter for :

1) Cisco IP Telephony Solutions: New World Technology

2) Old World Technology: Introduction to PBXs

Can I get those info from Internet ? I can't those
info from Cisco page.

Thanks in advance

regards
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CVOICE FREE link for all

2000-12-18 Thread Frank Z

Due to the flood of emails that I get every time I
mention the free CVOICE course, I am unable to respond
to them individually, but as a broadcast message to
all. here is the link:

http://www.vstream.com/secure/login?PREFS=CISCOCP

  You need to be a partner to register, but that
should not be a problem for most. I only ask that if
someone finds CATM or MCNS in this format, that they
please inform the group! Good luck to all.

Regards,
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Re: CVOICE FREE link for all

2000-12-18 Thread Billha

Frank,

What other courses are accessible apart from CVOICE ?



Frank Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Due to the flood of emails that I get every time I
 mention the free CVOICE course, I am unable to respond
 to them individually, but as a broadcast message to
 all. here is the link:

 http://www.vstream.com/secure/login?PREFS=CISCOCP

   You need to be a partner to register, but that
 should not be a problem for most. I only ask that if
 someone finds CATM or MCNS in this format, that they
 please inform the group! Good luck to all.

 Regards,
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cvoice 640-647

2000-12-06 Thread Steve Billy

Can someone advise me about which books and course material are best for 
Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course and rather want 
to study on my own.

Thanks.

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Re: cvoice 640-647

2000-12-06 Thread Quncy Lau

I have got the cvoice course presentation in Real Video format.
it is 18MB large.

Let's give me a way to transfer the file to you.

Quncy

Steve Billy wrote:

 Can someone advise me about which books and course material are best for
 Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course and rather want
 to study on my own.

 Thanks.

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Re: cvoice 640-647

2000-12-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I don't think anyone has come out with a CVOICE study guide yet. Your best 
bet would be to get the course materials. But if you can't do that, I 
highly recommend the following book,

Scott Keagy, "Integrating Voice and Data Networks." Cisco Press, 2000.

Priscilla

At 08:10 PM 12/5/00, Steve Billy wrote:
Can someone advise me about which books and course material are best for 
Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course and rather want 
to study on my own.

Thanks.

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Re: cvoice 640-647

2000-12-06 Thread xndr

Hi!

Better get proper topics from CVOICE 2.0 course and find out proper
documents.
And experience and more practice are helpful.
I 'm 3 years of VoX implementation and passed CVOICE 2.0 with 880 / 1000
points.


--
 WBW, xander
 CCNP+Voice, CCIE Lab 19-20/04/2001

 I don't think anyone has come out with a CVOICE study guide yet. Your best
 bet would be to get the course materials. But if you can't do that, I
 highly recommend the following book,

 Scott Keagy, "Integrating Voice and Data Networks." Cisco Press, 2000.

 Priscilla

 At 08:10 PM 12/5/00, Steve Billy wrote:
 Can someone advise me about which books and course material are best for
 Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course and rather want
 to study on my own.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: cvoice 640-647

2000-12-06 Thread Muhammad Zahid

Dear fellows,

I am also preparing for CVOICE 2.0, I have done the course, but i didn't have any
experience on VoX implementation .
but i have the CIM of VOIP  i think it will help me. Is it ?
and please let me know the boson test can i go for it ?

can any one tell me the brackup of the exam.


If any one interested to share the VoIP resources, please just write me a mail .


Best Regards
Muhammad Zahid



ndr wrote:

 Hi!

 Better get proper topics from CVOICE 2.0 course and find out proper
 documents.
 And experience and more practice are helpful.
 I 'm 3 years of VoX implementation and passed CVOICE 2.0 with 880 / 1000
 points.

 --
  WBW, xander
  CCNP+Voice, CCIE Lab 19-20/04/2001

  I don't think anyone has come out with a CVOICE study guide yet. Your best
  bet would be to get the course materials. But if you can't do that, I
  highly recommend the following book,
 
  Scott Keagy, "Integrating Voice and Data Networks." Cisco Press, 2000.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 08:10 PM 12/5/00, Steve Billy wrote:
  Can someone advise me about which books and course material are best for
  Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course and rather want
  to study on my own.
  
  Thanks.
  
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Re: cvoice 640-647

2000-12-06 Thread Quncy Lau

Hello,

You may get the CVoice file here.
Thanks to Atef provide the service space!

Again, if any have to course material for CCNA 2.0 (in power point format)
Please send to me! thanks!

Quncy

 212.103.160.156 anonymous, thanks in advance

 Yes, the ICND, but in hard copy. where do you live ?

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 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:40 AM
 Subject: RE: cvoice 640-647


  Hello Atef,
 
  Let's give me the address and account of your FTP server.
 
  Do you have to course material for CCNA 2.0?
 
  Quncy
 
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   From: Atef Rostom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 5:41 PM
   To: Quncy Lau
   Subject: Re: cvoice 640-647
  
  
   Hi Quncy,
  
   Do you mind uploading this video to my FTP? I have many
 things to trade
 if
   you're interested, just specify a topic.
  
   Thanks, Atef
  
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   Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 12:28 PM
   Subject: Re: cvoice 640-647
  
  
I have got the cvoice course presentation in Real Video format.
it is 18MB large.
   
Let's give me a way to transfer the file to you.
   
Quncy
   
Steve Billy wrote:
   
 Can someone advise me about which books and course material
   are best for
 Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course
 and rather
   want
 to study on my own.

 Thanks.

 Steve

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Quncy Lau wrote:

 I have got the cvoice course presentation in Real Video format.
 it is 18MB large.

 Let's give me a way to transfer the file to you.

 Quncy

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  Can someone advise me about which books and course material are best for
  Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course and rather want
  to study on my own.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Steve
 
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Cvoice 640-647

2000-12-06 Thread steve billy

Can someone advise me about which books and course
material are best for Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not
intend to attend the course and rather 
want to study on my own.

Thanks.

Steve


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cvoice 640-647

2000-12-05 Thread Steve Billy

Can someone advise me about which books and course material are best for 
Cvoice exam 640-647. I do not intend to attend the course and rather want 
to study on my own.

Thanks.

Steve


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CVoice Exam Prep Test - Where are they?

2000-11-29 Thread Randy Blumhoff








I am looking for some practice tests for the New CVoice exam 640-647 
The only place I could find any was Boson but they only had exams for the
retired exam 640-447. If any one knows who else might have some practice
questions please let me know.



Thank you in advance



Randy Blumhoff

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Re: CVoice Exam Prep Test - Where are they?

2000-11-29 Thread Cablemodem

Randy,

Cisco's On-Line Testing page (requires CCO login) has several sample tests,
the best being 'Cisco Voice 2.0"
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl

Mike

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 only place I could find any was Boson but they only had exams for the
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 Thank you in advance

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Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-22 Thread Lauren Child


 And did not sign any agreements or NDA's saying that I would not sell trade
 or give them away. The material is copyrighted so I could not copy it but as
 for a trade or sale?
 

Looks like its changed unless our uni had a special license - 

http://www.cla.co.uk/www/fairdeal.htm

states that non profit libraries can copy one chapter or *10 percent* of
a book (and not a third) whichever is greater for people for private
study or research purposes.

Theres also "fair dealing" but that looks so hideously un-specified that
I wouldnt like to go up against big lawyers with my interpretation.

*This applies in the UK only, and obviously only if it is private study
and not something your company wants*  Theres links to similar
organisations in other countries though.
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Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Marc_Andre Giroux

I would recommend you go out and take the course Theft is never a good
alternative... 
Marc Giroux
System Engineer II
Cisco Systems Canada Co. 

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Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Brian


I have the official Cisco ATM 2.0 courseware.  I would like to find
someone who has the CVOICE 2.0 courseware, that would like to swap.  I
have the original, this is not a copy.  Hopefully their is someone out
there who has done the Voice and would like to do the ATM that I can trade
with.

Brian


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Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Brian

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Marc_Andre Giroux wrote:

 I would recommend you go out and take the course Theft is never a good
 alternative... 

What are you talking about?  I own the courseware, the official
courseware.  I can trade it or sell it if I please.  I am looking to trade
the original courseware (ATM 2.0) for the original courseware (CVOICE
2.0).  Can you please clarify what your point is?

Brian


 Marc Giroux
 System Engineer II
 Cisco Systems Canada Co. 
 

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Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Tim O'Brien

Why do you consider trading theft? The manual is the personal property of
the person that took the class. If they wish to trade it to someone else
that took another class who has personal property that they would like to
trade, they may do so. If you have a book that you finish and give to your
mom or a co-worker, do you consider that theft?

Tim

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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0


I would recommend you go out and take the course Theft is never a good
alternative...
Marc Giroux
System Engineer II
Cisco Systems Canada Co.

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Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Chris Larson

I didn't realize that the courseware from Cisco was not tradeable, sellable
or could not be given away? Is there such an NDA or rules when you buy
Official Cisco courses?


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To: "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0


 I would recommend you go out and take the course Theft is never a good
 alternative...
 Marc Giroux
 System Engineer II
 Cisco Systems Canada Co.

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Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Chris Larson

I also have official courseware from
ICRC
ACRC
BCRAN
CIT
CLSC
MCNS

And did not sign any agreements or NDA's saying that I would not sell trade
or give them away. The material is copyrighted so I could not copy it but as
for a trade or sale?





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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:31 PM
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 I would recommend you go out and take the course Theft is never a good
 alternative...
 Marc Giroux
 System Engineer II
 Cisco Systems Canada Co.

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Re: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Jim Erickson

IIRC, in my BSCN course book, within the first few pages, there was
"license" text indicating that I could not resell or transfer the books. How
that would hold up in court, who knows.

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 On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Marc_Andre Giroux wrote:

  I would recommend you go out and take the course Theft is never a
good
  alternative...

 What are you talking about?  I own the courseware, the official
 courseware.  I can trade it or sell it if I please.  I am looking to trade
 the original courseware (ATM 2.0) for the original courseware (CVOICE
 2.0).  Can you please clarify what your point is?

 Brian


  Marc Giroux
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  Cisco Systems Canada Co.
 

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RE: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0

2000-11-21 Thread Snyder, LeRoy F

I have taken the course, but I would also recommend taking the course. I
would not recommend copying or trading the material at all. We are
professional individuals. I assume you all are some-what smart or more. But
I find that us "techies" lack the full common sense of non-techies. We are
successful, or are going to be succesful. So I would be very careful it what
you do. The course is excellent. I myself, found it hard but very
informative. The book is also on sale now. Hope we are talking about the
same thing here.  Any comments welcome-lets all be careful with our
information.

Roy

PS-Maybe someone with a relative, or friend that is a lawyer could give us
all some guidance on this issue. I myself would love to give out information
if it is found to be legal.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Trade CATM 2.0 for CVOICE 2.0



I have the official Cisco ATM 2.0 courseware.  I would like to find
someone who has the CVOICE 2.0 courseware, that would like to swap.  I
have the original, this is not a copy.  Hopefully their is someone out
there who has done the Voice and would like to do the ATM that I can trade
with.

Brian


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Passed CVOICE - info for others

2000-11-17 Thread Cablemodem

Just got back from the test. It was pretty much what I expected. . . harder
than hell.

The achieves are pretty bare on advice on passing this so here goes:

I got ahold of the CVOICE 2.0 course notes. This was a recommendation from
the archives and believe me it was a good one. There wasn't one question I
didn't recognize from the notes. I got an 875, so obviously recognizing it
doesn't mean I got it right.

The next valuable study resource was the Boson test, Cisco Voice over Frame
Relay 1.0, test #1. The only weakness was very little attention to 'new
world' telephony/CIPT. Other then that very good for the test. I didn't try
test #2

Finally, I purchased the Voice over IP CIM. I would rank it third on the
list. The hands on was very good, but it covers just a portion of the
objectives. The test cover Voice over Frame Relay and ATM and there's
nothing on the CIM regarding these technologies.

I hope this helps someone.

I will probably get rid of my CVOICE course notes, if your interested drop
me an email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-=Mike=-


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