Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
I was under the impression that some asian countries used the numerically consistent notation y/m/d :-) This of course demonstrates that the world is a big place with many different outlooks. We should be able to accomodate them all and Tim is therefore free to put whatever sig he likes at the bottom of his mails. rgds Marc Tom Lisa wrote: > > Everywhere except U.S. civilian usage. U.S. Military uses day/mo/yr > format. At least > it did when I was a member 20 years ago. > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > Community College of Southern Nevada > Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > > > "european-format"? I thought it was "everywhere except the US format"! > > ;-) > > > > JMcL > > - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 01:47 pm - > > > > "Steven A. Ridder" > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 28/02/2002 12:26 pm > > Please respond to "Steven A. Ridder" > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc: > > Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > > > Australia uses "european-format" time as well? > > > > -- > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > However if you do this I suggest you use a less ambiguous date format - > > my > > > first reaction is "oh, so you did the lab in January - but did you > > pass??" > > > > > > JMcL > > > - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 10:57 am - > > > > > > > > > "Jeff Buehler" > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 28/02/2002 09:29 am > > > Please respond to "Jeff Buehler" > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > cc: > > > Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the > > > "CCIE Written" if you want to demonstrate where you are in your > > > pursuit...for example. > > > > > > CCIE R/S LAB 6-1-2002 RTP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38244&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Everywhere except U.S. civilian usage. U.S. Military uses day/mo/yr format. At least it did when I was a member 20 years ago. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > "european-format"? I thought it was "everywhere except the US format"! > ;-) > > JMcL > - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 01:47 pm - > > "Steven A. Ridder" > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 28/02/2002 12:26 pm > Please respond to "Steven A. Ridder" > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > Australia uses "european-format" time as well? > > -- > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].; > > However if you do this I suggest you use a less ambiguous date format - > my > > first reaction is "oh, so you did the lab in January - but did you > pass??" > > > > JMcL > > - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 10:57 am - > > > > > > "Jeff Buehler" > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 28/02/2002 09:29 am > > Please respond to "Jeff Buehler" > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc: > > Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > > > > > Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the > > "CCIE Written" if you want to demonstrate where you are in your > > pursuit...for example. > > > > CCIE R/S LAB 6-1-2002 RTP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36775&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
>Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the >"CCIE Written" if you want to demonstrate where you are in your >pursuit...for example. That sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately, I don't plan to grab a date until I'm almost ready to take the test because test spots usually open up a few weeks ahead of time. It doesn't seem like that specific idea would be applicable in this case. I'm still open to ideas though. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written --- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36774&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
"european-format"? I thought it was "everywhere except the US format"!
;-)
JMcL
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"Steven A. Ridder"
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Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Australia uses "european-format" time as well?
--
RFC 1149 Compliant.
wrote in message
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> However if you do this I suggest you use a less ambiguous date format -
my
> first reaction is "oh, so you did the lab in January - but did you
pass??"
>
> JMcL
> - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 10:57 am -
>
>
> "Jeff Buehler"
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 28/02/2002 09:29 am
> Please respond to "Jeff Buehler"
>
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
> Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
>
>
> Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the
> "CCIE Written" if you want to demonstrate where you are in your
> pursuit...for example.
>
> CCIE R/S LAB 6-1-2002 RTP
>
> ""Tim Booth"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Certainly that was conceptually clear. I think this is probably an
> > issue of semantics, but either way, I believe there is an exception to
> > be made due to the fact that this is a cisco study list. Where you are
> > in your studies could have some bearing on the immediate level of
detail
> > in responses one gets, because it indicates the level of detail you
> > would desire. I really don't think that it is inappropriate to
indicate
> > where you are in your cisco studies on a cisco mailing group.
> >
> > I, like you, would not agree to putting "MCSE Win2k Pro and Server"
on
> > a cisco email list, but being appropriately detailed should be ok. I
> > believe that the difference between a CCNP, CCDP, or CCIP and someone
> > who takes the IE written is great enough to warrant such a
distinction.
> > I know I learned a lot between my DP and my IE written. I like to be
> > thorough, and answering as many pertinent questions as possible in one
> > email, be it stated or unstated, is appropriate.
> >
> > As far as dealing with semantics, it is possible to restructure the
> > appendage, but why would that truly be necessary. If you think about
it,
> > the best shorthand for someone who passed the CCIE written would be
> > "CCIE written." If it is to be suggested that I can't use CCIE in a
> > phrase simply because it *by itself* represents something different
than
> > what I'm implying, that would be a little silly.
> >
> > I'm not trying to get a job with this title, or pretend to be
> > something I'm not; just indicating where I'm at.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Tim Booth
> > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
> > -
> > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little
temporary
> > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> > Benjamin Franklin, 1759
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > Solar
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:47
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
> >
> > Have no clear idea of why the CCIE Written should be dropped. Unless
you
> > pass both written and lab exams, then append the CCIE after your name
> >
> > Compare it to the following
> > "Name"
> > CCNA, CCNP Routing Switching, BSc 3rd year, CCIE Written, MCSE Win2K
Pro
> > and
> > Server, MBA 1st semester
> >
> > Is it conceptually clear to you ?
> >
> > Thank you
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Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Australia uses "european-format" time as well? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > However if you do this I suggest you use a less ambiguous date format - my > first reaction is "oh, so you did the lab in January - but did you pass??" > > JMcL > - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 10:57 am - > > > "Jeff Buehler" > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 28/02/2002 09:29 am > Please respond to "Jeff Buehler" > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > > Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the > "CCIE Written" if you want to demonstrate where you are in your > pursuit...for example. > > CCIE R/S LAB 6-1-2002 RTP > > ""Tim Booth"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Certainly that was conceptually clear. I think this is probably an > > issue of semantics, but either way, I believe there is an exception to > > be made due to the fact that this is a cisco study list. Where you are > > in your studies could have some bearing on the immediate level of detail > > in responses one gets, because it indicates the level of detail you > > would desire. I really don't think that it is inappropriate to indicate > > where you are in your cisco studies on a cisco mailing group. > > > > I, like you, would not agree to putting "MCSE Win2k Pro and Server" on > > a cisco email list, but being appropriately detailed should be ok. I > > believe that the difference between a CCNP, CCDP, or CCIP and someone > > who takes the IE written is great enough to warrant such a distinction. > > I know I learned a lot between my DP and my IE written. I like to be > > thorough, and answering as many pertinent questions as possible in one > > email, be it stated or unstated, is appropriate. > > > > As far as dealing with semantics, it is possible to restructure the > > appendage, but why would that truly be necessary. If you think about it, > > the best shorthand for someone who passed the CCIE written would be > > "CCIE written." If it is to be suggested that I can't use CCIE in a > > phrase simply because it *by itself* represents something different than > > what I'm implying, that would be a little silly. > > > > I'm not trying to get a job with this title, or pretend to be > > something I'm not; just indicating where I'm at. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Tim Booth > > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written > > ----------------- > > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > Benjamin Franklin, 1759 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Solar > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:47 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > > > Have no clear idea of why the CCIE Written should be dropped. Unless you > > pass both written and lab exams, then append the CCIE after your name > > > > Compare it to the following > > "Name" > > CCNA, CCNP Routing Switching, BSc 3rd year, CCIE Written, MCSE Win2K Pro > > and > > Server, MBA 1st semester > > > > Is it conceptually clear to you ? > > > > Thank you Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36755&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
However if you do this I suggest you use a less ambiguous date format - my
first reaction is "oh, so you did the lab in January - but did you pass??"
JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 10:57 am -
"Jeff Buehler"
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
28/02/2002 09:29 am
Please respond to "Jeff Buehler"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject: Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the
"CCIE Written" if you want to demonstrate where you are in your
pursuit...for example.
CCIE R/S LAB 6-1-2002 RTP
""Tim Booth"" wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Certainly that was conceptually clear. I think this is probably an
> issue of semantics, but either way, I believe there is an exception to
> be made due to the fact that this is a cisco study list. Where you are
> in your studies could have some bearing on the immediate level of detail
> in responses one gets, because it indicates the level of detail you
> would desire. I really don't think that it is inappropriate to indicate
> where you are in your cisco studies on a cisco mailing group.
>
> I, like you, would not agree to putting "MCSE Win2k Pro and Server" on
> a cisco email list, but being appropriately detailed should be ok. I
> believe that the difference between a CCNP, CCDP, or CCIP and someone
> who takes the IE written is great enough to warrant such a distinction.
> I know I learned a lot between my DP and my IE written. I like to be
> thorough, and answering as many pertinent questions as possible in one
> email, be it stated or unstated, is appropriate.
>
> As far as dealing with semantics, it is possible to restructure the
> appendage, but why would that truly be necessary. If you think about it,
> the best shorthand for someone who passed the CCIE written would be
> "CCIE written." If it is to be suggested that I can't use CCIE in a
> phrase simply because it *by itself* represents something different than
> what I'm implying, that would be a little silly.
>
> I'm not trying to get a job with this title, or pretend to be
> something I'm not; just indicating where I'm at.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Tim Booth
> MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
> -
> Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> Benjamin Franklin, 1759
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Solar
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:47
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
>
> Have no clear idea of why the CCIE Written should be dropped. Unless you
> pass both written and lab exams, then append the CCIE after your name
>
> Compare it to the following
> "Name"
> CCNA, CCNP Routing Switching, BSc 3rd year, CCIE Written, MCSE Win2K Pro
> and
> Server, MBA 1st semester
>
> Is it conceptually clear to you ?
>
> Thank you
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Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the "CCIE Written" if you want to demonstrate where you are in your pursuit...for example. CCIE R/S LAB 6-1-2002 RTP ""Tim Booth"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Certainly that was conceptually clear. I think this is probably an > issue of semantics, but either way, I believe there is an exception to > be made due to the fact that this is a cisco study list. Where you are > in your studies could have some bearing on the immediate level of detail > in responses one gets, because it indicates the level of detail you > would desire. I really don't think that it is inappropriate to indicate > where you are in your cisco studies on a cisco mailing group. > > I, like you, would not agree to putting "MCSE Win2k Pro and Server" on > a cisco email list, but being appropriately detailed should be ok. I > believe that the difference between a CCNP, CCDP, or CCIP and someone > who takes the IE written is great enough to warrant such a distinction. > I know I learned a lot between my DP and my IE written. I like to be > thorough, and answering as many pertinent questions as possible in one > email, be it stated or unstated, is appropriate. > > As far as dealing with semantics, it is possible to restructure the > appendage, but why would that truly be necessary. If you think about it, > the best shorthand for someone who passed the CCIE written would be > "CCIE written." If it is to be suggested that I can't use CCIE in a > phrase simply because it *by itself* represents something different than > what I'm implying, that would be a little silly. > > I'm not trying to get a job with this title, or pretend to be > something I'm not; just indicating where I'm at. > > Kind Regards, > Tim Booth > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written > - > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Benjamin Franklin, 1759 > > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Solar > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:47 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > Have no clear idea of why the CCIE Written should be dropped. Unless you > pass both written and lab exams, then append the CCIE after your name > > Compare it to the following > "Name" > CCNA, CCNP Routing Switching, BSc 3rd year, CCIE Written, MCSE Win2K Pro > and > Server, MBA 1st semester > > Is it conceptually clear to you ? > > Thank you Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36719&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I agree lose the CCIE written as a cert. I agree to lose the CCIE written in your signature or after your name on a Resume. How I handle that is on my resume I have a section called, "Certifications in Process". I list tests that I have taken or certifications that I plan on completing. Example: * Certifications in Progress: Checkpoint CCSA, Cisco CCIE, Microsoft MCSE Windows 2000 Track (Passed 70-240 Microsoft Accelerated Exam. One test away from my MCSE W2K), and Prosoft Master CIW Administrator. My $0.02 worth. -- "Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity" David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36663&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Certainly that was conceptually clear. I think this is probably an issue of semantics, but either way, I believe there is an exception to be made due to the fact that this is a cisco study list. Where you are in your studies could have some bearing on the immediate level of detail in responses one gets, because it indicates the level of detail you would desire. I really don't think that it is inappropriate to indicate where you are in your cisco studies on a cisco mailing group. I, like you, would not agree to putting "MCSE Win2k Pro and Server" on a cisco email list, but being appropriately detailed should be ok. I believe that the difference between a CCNP, CCDP, or CCIP and someone who takes the IE written is great enough to warrant such a distinction. I know I learned a lot between my DP and my IE written. I like to be thorough, and answering as many pertinent questions as possible in one email, be it stated or unstated, is appropriate. As far as dealing with semantics, it is possible to restructure the appendage, but why would that truly be necessary. If you think about it, the best shorthand for someone who passed the CCIE written would be "CCIE written." If it is to be suggested that I can't use CCIE in a phrase simply because it *by itself* represents something different than what I'm implying, that would be a little silly. I'm not trying to get a job with this title, or pretend to be something I'm not; just indicating where I'm at. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written - Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Solar Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] Have no clear idea of why the CCIE Written should be dropped. Unless you pass both written and lab exams, then append the CCIE after your name Compare it to the following "Name" CCNA, CCNP Routing Switching, BSc 3rd year, CCIE Written, MCSE Win2K Pro and Server, MBA 1st semester Is it conceptually clear to you ? Thank you Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36657&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
I agree, get rid of the acronym till you got the number after it, It demeans the CCIE actual certification which few will ever achieve. My Personal belief is that you could get the CCIE- "written" knowing f**k all. The day you actually get the CCIE # then I care who you are, and what you have to say, listen closely, and understand how much you studied, and follow your advise, but until then .. Stop getting sesame street certifications and learn to walk with kings.. > -Original Message- > From: Solar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 27 February 2002 13:47 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] > > Have no clear idea of why the CCIE Written should be dropped. Unless you > pass both written and lab exams, then append the CCIE after your name > > Compare it to the following > "Name" > CCNA, CCNP Routing Switching, BSc 3rd year, CCIE Written, MCSE Win2K Pro > and > Server, MBA 1st semester > > Is it conceptually clear to you ? > > Thank you > > > ""Tim Booth"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > >BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym > > collection...it > > >ain't cool no more :) > > > > BTW - Oliver? > > > >Appending "CCIE written" isn't to be "cool." It's not to pretend I'm > > a CCIE. It's to let others know how far my progress is in achieving my > > goal, where I'm at in an educational standpoint etc. It is purely a > > shorthand version of "I have passed a CCIE written test." It would be > > the equivalent of saying something like "I'm in college," if college and > > studying to be a CCIE were comparable. In your head you can append > > "Studied hard and passed a CCIE written exam." I'm not claiming to be a > > CCIE, but I am claiming to be actively studying towards being one. > > > >As far as my certifications, I have studied very hard to earn them, > > and in no sense are they simply an "acronym collection." In my case, > > treating them as such is inappropriate. > > > >If you have further issues, please email me off-list. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Tim Booth > > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written > > - > > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36632&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Have no clear idea of why the CCIE Written should be dropped. Unless you pass both written and lab exams, then append the CCIE after your name Compare it to the following "Name" CCNA, CCNP Routing Switching, BSc 3rd year, CCIE Written, MCSE Win2K Pro and Server, MBA 1st semester Is it conceptually clear to you ? Thank you ""Tim Booth"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym > collection...it > >ain't cool no more :) > > BTW - Oliver? > >Appending "CCIE written" isn't to be "cool." It's not to pretend I'm > a CCIE. It's to let others know how far my progress is in achieving my > goal, where I'm at in an educational standpoint etc. It is purely a > shorthand version of "I have passed a CCIE written test." It would be > the equivalent of saying something like "I'm in college," if college and > studying to be a CCIE were comparable. In your head you can append > "Studied hard and passed a CCIE written exam." I'm not claiming to be a > CCIE, but I am claiming to be actively studying towards being one. > >As far as my certifications, I have studied very hard to earn them, > and in no sense are they simply an "acronym collection." In my case, > treating them as such is inappropriate. > >If you have further issues, please email me off-list. > > Kind Regards, > Tim Booth > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written > - > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36622&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
I was considering the same thing! I have my CCNP and I was considering the CCIE. However, I have decided to go for my MBA, I start in the Fall. There are a lot of Cisco people out there, but there won't be a lot of Cisco and MBA (as an added bonus the MBA never expires). I will however, probably pursue added Cisco certifications as I am doing my MBA. Think of it this way. What happens if these certifications turn into the MCSE? Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: Jerry P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] Hi all: I have a dilemma that I was wondering if I could ask your opinion on concerning CCIE status. I am a Network Admin for the cisco lab at a university. The racks of equipment in the lab is available to use for any BGP, VLAN or multicast network possible it seems like. But I'm at a point in my life where there's a fork in the road; it looks like the CCIE route or MBA route and I am leaning towards the MBA with a lower cert like CCNP. But with all this equipment and abundance of lab time here, would I be foolish not to take advantage of this situation? And suppose I do go for it and hope that I pass the big one, I'm curious what kinds of jobs are out there in this industry for someone like myself with 5 years of experience, 1-2 years of it concentrated in IT? What should I do?? Thanks. Jerry CCNA CCDA MCSA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36623&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
>BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym collection...it >ain't cool no more :) BTW - Oliver? Appending "CCIE written" isn't to be "cool." It's not to pretend I'm a CCIE. It's to let others know how far my progress is in achieving my goal, where I'm at in an educational standpoint etc. It is purely a shorthand version of "I have passed a CCIE written test." It would be the equivalent of saying something like "I'm in college," if college and studying to be a CCIE were comparable. In your head you can append "Studied hard and passed a CCIE written exam." I'm not claiming to be a CCIE, but I am claiming to be actively studying towards being one. As far as my certifications, I have studied very hard to earn them, and in no sense are they simply an "acronym collection." In my case, treating them as such is inappropriate. If you have further issues, please email me off-list. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written - Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36570&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
I agree lose the CCIE written as a cert. I'm almost in the same situation as you, but I decided to get my CCIE first then go back and get the MBA. But, the two "certification" lead down two entirely different paths - One is a highly technical field while the other focuses on Business and Accounting and Marketing. Sometimes I feel like they don't necessarly compliment each other. I say if your heavy into tech stuff, have a job in the router field, then get the CCIE first, otherwise don't waste your time, because you'll forget it all if you don't have a job where you use it while going to school. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. ""Oliver Nadalin"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I agree - do the CCNPget your MBA. There is a glut of Cisco people at > the moment - no matter what country your are in. The MBA would probably be a > better choice in the long term - anyways, once you attain your CCNP level > (or CCIP) and you keep your skills current by practicing regularly you > should still be OK for the CCIE further down the track. > > BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym collection...it > ain't cool no more :) > > > ""Tim Booth"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > My suggestion is to get your DP and NP and see if you like it, if you > > have time. Then you can make a more educated decision. Certainly, if you > > have access to most/all of the routers and switches that are in the CCIE > > lab page exam, then it would be good to take advantage of your > > situation. > > > > As far as availability of jobs and such, I don't know this > > information. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Tim Booth > > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written > > - > > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36582&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
I agree - do the CCNPget your MBA. There is a glut of Cisco people at the moment - no matter what country your are in. The MBA would probably be a better choice in the long term - anyways, once you attain your CCNP level (or CCIP) and you keep your skills current by practicing regularly you should still be OK for the CCIE further down the track. BTW - Tim? Drop the 'CCIE Written' 'bit' from you acronym collection...it ain't cool no more :) ""Tim Booth"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > My suggestion is to get your DP and NP and see if you like it, if you > have time. Then you can make a more educated decision. Certainly, if you > have access to most/all of the routers and switches that are in the CCIE > lab page exam, then it would be good to take advantage of your > situation. > > As far as availability of jobs and such, I don't know this > information. > > Kind Regards, > Tim Booth > MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written > - > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36558&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
My suggestion is to get your DP and NP and see if you like it, if you have time. Then you can make a more educated decision. Certainly, if you have access to most/all of the routers and switches that are in the CCIE lab page exam, then it would be good to take advantage of your situation. As far as availability of jobs and such, I don't know this information. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written - Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36557&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
Hi all: I have a dilemma that I was wondering if I could ask your opinion on concerning CCIE status. I am a Network Admin for the cisco lab at a university. The racks of equipment in the lab is available to use for any BGP, VLAN or multicast network possible it seems like. But I'm at a point in my life where there's a fork in the road; it looks like the CCIE route or MBA route and I am leaning towards the MBA with a lower cert like CCNP. But with all this equipment and abundance of lab time here, would I be foolish not to take advantage of this situation? And suppose I do go for it and hope that I pass the big one, I'm curious what kinds of jobs are out there in this industry for someone like myself with 5 years of experience, 1-2 years of it concentrated in IT? What should I do?? Thanks. Jerry CCNA CCDA MCSA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36542&t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
