ISDN switch type

2001-03-16 Thread a p

hi
anyone remebers how to setup ISDN switch type.

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ISDN switch type

2001-01-03 Thread Hans Stout

Hello colleagues,

I have heard that after changing the ISDN switch type (both global and 
interface config) the router needs to be reloaded for the change to take 
effect. Do you know if that is true ?
Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards,

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ISDN Switch Type

2000-06-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I am trying to troubleshoot a slow WAN request time between a remote branch
office and my network, and I can see that the switch type is set to 5ESS on
the remote router (which I am looking at with telnet). On all my routers
here, and at another remote office, the switch types are all NI-1.

The question is - would the router be able to communicate at all with a
switch type set to 5ESS the switch really is an NI-1?

If I assume that it would be able to communicate, I could change it remotely
from 5ESS to NI-1 to see if it should help the slow request time, and then
change it back again if not.

If I assume that it would not be able to communicate, I would loose my
feature of communicating with it remotely when changing from 5ESS to NI-1,
and the office would be completely down until I could get someone to move a
pc over by their router and connect it with a console cable and change it
back.

Any comments are appreciated,

Ole

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ISDN Switch Type

2000-06-08 Thread jenny . mcleod

I don't know about those switch types in particular, but it is possible for a
router to be able to communicate with the wrong switch type configured.  I've
interchanged primary-ts014 and primary-net5 on a Cisco 7500, and it seemed to
work OK - mind you, this was just for testing purposes, I haven't run it
long-term with the wrong switch-type, so I can't comment on performance.

On non-cisco equipment, I've also used a setting of TS13 (Australian microlink)
with a service using ETSI - the basics (i.e. making a call) worked, but some
features weren't available.

I'd be cautious about changing it unless someone else can give you more info on
those specific switch-types, but you'd probably be OK.  Have that console cable
ready at the remote site :-)

JMcL


I am trying to troubleshoot a slow WAN request time between a remote branch
office and my network, and I can see that the switch type is set to 5ESS on
the remote router (which I am looking at with telnet). On all my routers
here, and at another remote office, the switch types are all NI-1.

The question is - would the router be able to communicate at all with a
switch type set to 5ESS the switch really is an NI-1?

If I assume that it would be able to communicate, I could change it remotely
from 5ESS to NI-1 to see if it should help the slow request time, and then
change it back again if not.

If I assume that it would not be able to communicate, I would loose my
feature of communicating with it remotely when changing from 5ESS to NI-1,
and the office would be completely down until I could get someone to move a
pc over by their router and connect it with a console cable and change it
back.

Any comments are appreciated,

Ole

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RE: ISDN switch type

2001-03-16 Thread Damien Kelly

isdn switch-type basic-net3

anywhere in the config

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Re: ISDN switch type

2001-03-16 Thread Lowell Sharrah

global config mode

isdn switch-type primary-dms100 or something else

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Re: ISDN switch type

2001-03-16 Thread Vincent

You should check the type of switch of your telco service provider first.
Different country use differnet type

Either in global configuration mode or interface mode.

To my best knowledge, you are required to reload the router for the
configuration to take effect.


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Re: ISDN switch type

2001-01-04 Thread Sam LI

Yes, this is true,
you can check the isdn session in the CIT manual
Sam
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> Hello colleagues,
>
> I have heard that after changing the ISDN switch type (both global and
> interface config) the router needs to be reloaded for the change to take
> effect. Do you know if that is true ?
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Georg Pauwen
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re: ISDN Switch Type

2000-06-09 Thread peter . simmons




Ole,

I can't comment on the specifics of the Switch type, but I imagine your
going to lose your link, at least temporarily
if you change the switch type. Without testing, I'd say you might even have
to "shut/no shut" the intf or reload the router
to make the change active.

You could ring the Telco provisoning the ISDN circuit at the remote site
and ask them (not always the most useful of steps, I admit), or check
the "debug ISDN q921 / q931" output for any errors. I have no experience of
these switch types, I'm in the UK, but If one end has been misconfigured
in any setup I've ever worked on, usually there is no D channel comms, and
"show isdn status" shows Layer 1 down.

On the remote reconfiguration front, I commonly use the "reset in xx"
comand when doing anything to a remote box, just in case I have to get in
my
car and drive for many hours to fix the thing afterwards...

Here's some detail:

On the remote router, check your startup config is the same as the one in
memory, (Set the time on the router and do a show start
is one easy way to check no changes since last write memory/copy running
startup). Assuming you're happy with the config
in NVRAM (this is the config it will use if all goes horribly wrong),
enter the "reload in 15" command to reboot the router
in 15 minutes (Or however long you want to wait looking at a blank
console/how long you need to make changes etc.)

Make your config changes, if all goes well, and before the 15 minutes has
expired (!) enter the "no reload" command to abort the timed reboot
procedure.

If you "saw off the branch your sitting on", and the router link goes down,
sit back and wait for the reboot to occur.

Just remember NOT to write memory/copy running startup at any point during
the procedure, until you're happy that all is working OK,
or you're looking at getting someone to hook up a PC and console cable for
you at the remote end..

My basic premise in these cases is that if I'm hacking away at the
interface I'm coming in on, then I'd prefer to be at the site,
failing that, I'd like Out Of Band access via an AUX port connected modem,
worst case I'll use the "reload in xx", but only after ensuring
I have someone at the far end to talk through getting it back to a working
state if I blow the gig. I have also used PCAnywhere to dial in to a PC
at the remote site via a modem, and TELNETed into the remote device via a
working LAN intf to get base connectivity restored after an
unplanned power outage during router config maintenance

On a more general level, ask yourself what the impact to your business is
going to be if this goes wrong, that will help guide how important it is
for
you to be there or do it remotely.

As always, Your Mileage May Vary!

Regards

Peter Simmons


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>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:47:56 -0500
>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: ISDN Switch Type
>
>I am trying to troubleshoot a slow WAN request time between a remote
branch
>office and my network, and I can see that the switch type is set to 5ESS
on
>the remote router (which I am looking at with telnet). On all my routers
>here, and at another remote office, the switch types are all NI-1.
>
>The question is - would the router be able to communicate at all with a
>switch type set to 5ESS the switch really is an NI-1?
>
>If I assume that it would be able to communicate, I could change it
remotely
>from 5ESS to NI-1 to see if it should help the slow request time, and then
>change it back again if not.
>
>If I assume that it would not be able to communicate, I would loose my
>feature of communicating with it remotely when changing from 5ESS to NI-1,
>and the office would be completely down until I could get someone to move
a
>pc over by their router and connect it with a console cable and change it
>back.
>
>Any comments are appreciated,
>
>Ole


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RE: ISDN Switch Type

2000-06-09 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Thanks Peter,

The problem is that this router is a 700 series - you know, the one without
the IOS.

Anyway(s), I went to the office and accessed the router via the local hub,
and fixed the problem.

Changing from 5ESS to NI-1 broke my connection with the network, and I
couldn't ping my servers. I therefore changed it back to 5ESS, and then it
worked again. The weird thing is, that doing that also fixed the problem, so
something (that I could not see anywhere in the configuration) got reset by
changing the switch type, and my network response time is now back to
normal.

I have now saved the configuration again, and here is how to do that btw:

upload tftp n.n.n.n router-x.txt

Should I ever need to restore the configuration, I can reset it and restore
it this way:

set default
swl tftp config n.n.n.n router-x.txt

I hate troubleshooting like that, because you cannot really put a finger on
what fixed the problem.

I can now sit down with one less problem and write mileage on my expence
report :-)

Have a great weekend,

Ole

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: re: ISDN Switch Type
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ole,
> 
> I can't comment on the specifics of the Switch type, but I 
> imagine your
> going to lose your link, at least temporarily
> if you change the switch type. Without testing, I'd say you 
> might even have
> to "shut/no shut" the intf or reload the router
> to make the change active.
> 
> You could ring the Telco provisoning the ISDN circuit at the 
> remote site
> and ask them (not always the most useful of steps, I admit), or check
> the "debug ISDN q921 / q931" output for any errors. I have no 
> experience of
> these switch types, I'm in the UK, but If one end has been 
> misconfigured
> in any setup I've ever worked on, usually there is no D 
> channel comms, and
> "show isdn status" shows Layer 1 down.
> 
> On the remote reconfiguration front, I commonly use the "reset in xx"
> comand when doing anything to a remote box, just in case I 
> have to get in
> my
> car and drive for many hours to fix the thing afterwards...
> 
> Here's some detail:
> 
> On the remote router, check your startup config is the same 
> as the one in
> memory, (Set the time on the router and do a show start
> is one easy way to check no changes since last write 
> memory/copy running
> startup). Assuming you're happy with the config
> in NVRAM (this is the config it will use if all goes horribly 
> wrong),
> enter the "reload in 15" command to reboot the router
> in 15 minutes (Or however long you want to wait looking at a blank
> console/how long you need to make changes etc.)
> 
> Make your config changes, if all goes well, and before the 15 
> minutes has
> expired (!) enter the "no reload" command to abort the timed reboot
> procedure.
> 
> If you "saw off the branch your sitting on", and the router 
> link goes down,
> sit back and wait for the reboot to occur.
> 
> Just remember NOT to write memory/copy running startup at any 
> point during
> the procedure, until you're happy that all is working OK,
> or you're looking at getting someone to hook up a PC and 
> console cable for
> you at the remote end..
> 
> My basic premise in these cases is that if I'm hacking away at the
> interface I'm coming in on, then I'd prefer to be at the site,
> failing that, I'd like Out Of Band access via an AUX port 
> connected modem,
> worst case I'll use the "reload in xx", but only after ensuring
> I have someone at the far end to talk through getting it back 
> to a working
> state if I blow the gig. I have also used PCAnywhere to dial 
> in to a PC
> at the remote site via a modem, and TELNETed into the remote 
> device via a
> working LAN intf to get base connectivity restored after an
> unplanned power outage during router config maintenance
> 
> On a more general level, ask yourself what the impact to your 
> business is
> going to be if this goes wrong, that will help guide how 
> important it is
> for
> you to be there or do it remotely.
> 
> As always, Your Mileage May Vary!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter Simmons
> 
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RE: ISDN Switch Type

2000-06-09 Thread Albert Ip



-Original Message-
From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:05 PM
To: 'Ole Drews Jensen'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type


A little trick I learn from a CCIE.

If you are doing a configuration on a remote site, use "reload in ".
Make sure you have save the working config to flash.  Put in reload in ,
than do your work.  If you loss connect, you just sit there and wait till
the router reload automatically and restore the working config.  If you
don't loss connect, make sure you cancel the reload or you will loss all the
changes.

more detail:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113ed_cr/f
un_c/fcprt2/fcreboot.htm#xtocid839717

Albert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ole Drews Jensen
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 11:48 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ISDN Switch Type


I am trying to troubleshoot a slow WAN request time between a remote branch
office and my network, and I can see that the switch type is set to 5ESS on
the remote router (which I am looking at with telnet). On all my routers
here, and at another remote office, the switch types are all NI-1.

The question is - would the router be able to communicate at all with a
switch type set to 5ESS the switch really is an NI-1?

If I assume that it would be able to communicate, I could change it remotely
from 5ESS to NI-1 to see if it should help the slow request time, and then
change it back again if not.

If I assume that it would not be able to communicate, I would loose my
feature of communicating with it remotely when changing from 5ESS to NI-1,
and the office would be completely down until I could get someone to move a
pc over by their router and connect it with a console cable and change it
back.

Any comments are appreciated,

Ole

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 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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RE: ISDN Switch Type

2000-06-14 Thread jenny . mcleod



OK, I know this thread is now a bit old, but I'm feeling pigheaded.  This is a
resend.  Sorry if it appears twice (or three times).

Using 'reload in xx' occured to me (or just have somebody on standby at the
remote site to reboot the router - high-tech solutions aren't always necessary
:-), but changing the switch-type needs a reload to take effect (at least with
IOS 11.2, maybe it's different in later versions).  So you have to save and
reload before you've changed anything anyway.

Anyway, Ole, glad your problem is fixed - don't you *hate* problems like that?!
(although they are admittedly better than problems where you can't find the
cause and they *don't* go away)

JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/06/2000 09:16
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-Original Message-
From: Albert Ip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:05 PM
To: 'Ole Drews Jensen'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type


A little trick I learn from a CCIE.

If you are doing a configuration on a remote site, use "reload in ".
Make sure you have save the working config to flash.  Put in reload in ,
than do your work.  If you loss connect, you just sit there and wait till
the router reload automatically and restore the working config.  If you
don't loss connect, make sure you cancel the reload or you will loss all the
changes.

more detail:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113ed_cr/f
un_c/fcprt2/fcreboot.htm#xtocid839717

Albert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ole Drews Jensen
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 11:48 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ISDN Switch Type


I am trying to troubleshoot a slow WAN request time between a remote branch
office and my network, and I can see that the switch type is set to 5ESS on
the remote router (which I am looking at with telnet). On all my routers
here, and at another remote office, the switch types are all NI-1.

The question is - would the router be able to communicate at all with a
switch type set to 5ESS the switch really is an NI-1?

If I assume that it would be able to communicate, I could change it remotely
from 5ESS to NI-1 to see if it should help the slow request time, and then
change it back again if not.

If I assume that it would not be able to communicate, I would loose my
feature of communicating with it remotely when changing from 5ESS to NI-1,
and the office would be completely down until I could get someone to move a
pc over by their router and connect it with a console cable and change it
back.

Any comments are appreciated,

Ole

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ISDN switch type in Korea

2001-04-04 Thread Chiao Liang

Hi All,

I tryong to apply for an ISDN PRI line in SEOUL. The providetell me that
the switch type use is "PBX". I was so confuss as in CISCO AS5300 that i
going to use, there was not switch type known as "PBX". Can anybody
enlighten me on this. Is there a "PBX" Switch for ISDN? If yes how do i
configure my AS5300 for the ISDN PRI LINE.

Thank, with regards
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RE: ISDN switch type in Korea

2001-04-04 Thread Buri, Heather H

For the router configuration, the switch type should be configured as  
primary-net5  which covers European, New Zealand and Asia ISDN PRI switches
(per Cisco documentation).  I am not sure where your provider is getting his
information.  I suspect he does not know what he is talking about.  I would
question him further on this point and maybe ask to speak with someone else.


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Subject: ISDN switch type in Korea


Hi All,

I tryong to apply for an ISDN PRI line in SEOUL. The providetell me that
the switch type use is "PBX". I was so confuss as in CISCO AS5300 that i
going to use, there was not switch type known as "PBX". Can anybody
enlighten me on this. Is there a "PBX" Switch for ISDN? If yes how do i
configure my AS5300 for the ISDN PRI LINE.

Thank, with regards
Chan
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RE: ISDN switch type in Korea

2001-04-04 Thread Daniel Cotts

As a first cut - let the experts also reply: PBX is an acronym for Private
Branch Exchange. It refers to a small switch usually used at a company site
as opposed to a large switch used in a Telco office. It is a generic term
that in no way indicates the manufacturer of the switch. 
Maybe you can show your provider the list of ISDN PRI switch types supported
by Cisco. Ask which one should you use. Worst case - try each in turn until
your circuit works.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chiao Liang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN switch type in Korea
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I tryong to apply for an ISDN PRI line in SEOUL. The 
> providetell me that
> the switch type use is "PBX". I was so confuss as in CISCO 
> AS5300 that i
> going to use, there was not switch type known as "PBX". Can anybody
> enlighten me on this. Is there a "PBX" Switch for ISDN? If 
> yes how do i
> configure my AS5300 for the ISDN PRI LINE.
> 
> Thank, with regards
> Chan
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Re: ISDN switch type in Korea

2001-04-04 Thread AM

PBX is a general term. The provider needs to give you more info than that or
you can sit there and try very switch type possible.

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> Hi All,
>
> I tryong to apply for an ISDN PRI line in SEOUL. The providetell me that
> the switch type use is "PBX". I was so confuss as in CISCO AS5300 that i
> going to use, there was not switch type known as "PBX". Can anybody
> enlighten me on this. Is there a "PBX" Switch for ISDN? If yes how do i
> configure my AS5300 for the ISDN PRI LINE.
>
> Thank, with regards
> Chan
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RE: ISDN switch type in Korea

2001-04-04 Thread jenny . mcleod

While your provider may well use primary-net5, they may not.  The Cisco
documentation only gives an indication of the switch types used in each
country; it's not conclusive (for example some PRIs in Australia use
primary-net5, not primary-ts014).  It depends on what your provider is
using.

Ask your provider, and as somebody else suggested, run a list of switch
types past them.  If they say they use 'ETSI' or 'Euro-ISDN', then that
means primary-net5.

A list of switch-types supported in IOS 12.1, in case you haven't already
found it, is at (watch the wrap)
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/dial_r/drdrisla.htm#1030992

JMcL
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For the router configuration, the switch type should be configured as
primary-net5  which covers European, New Zealand and Asia ISDN PRI switches
(per Cisco documentation).  I am not sure where your provider is getting
his
information.  I suspect he does not know what he is talking about.  I would
question him further on this point and maybe ask to speak with someone
else.


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Hi All,

I tryong to apply for an ISDN PRI line in SEOUL. The providetell me that
the switch type use is "PBX". I was so confuss as in CISCO AS5300 that i
going to use, there was not switch type known as "PBX". Can anybody
enlighten me on this. Is there a "PBX" Switch for ISDN? If yes how do i
configure my AS5300 for the ISDN PRI LINE.

Thank, with regards
Chan
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ISDN Switch-type basic-ni [7:69737]

2003-05-29 Thread Fanglo MA
Hi,

Just want to clarify for basic-ni is set on BRI, then if one dialer string
set on remote site can bring up both channels? Anyone use this swith type
at work please share your experience.

Thank a lot.

Regards,
Fanglo

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Re: ISDN Switch-type basic-ni [7:69737]

2003-06-01 Thread sumitsood
To bring up both B- channels set

" dialer load threshold  5 ".

and if you want to test it usean extended ping with bigger packet size that
will help.




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Multiple ISDN switch type on the same router [7:5198]

2001-05-20 Thread Lists Wizard

Group,

I got concrete information that if you have multiple bri interfaces on the
router, all of them must be connected to
the same ISDN switch type. How about if you have a router with multiple PRI
interfaces? Should I connect all the PRI interfaces to the same ISDN switch
type?


Thanks
L. W.




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Multiple ISDN switch type on the same router [7:5198]

2001-05-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Depends on your IOS version.
In 11.2, 'isdn switch-type' is a global command - you can't have more than
one switch type on the same router (I assume this extends to not being able
to have a BRI and PRI interface on the same router, but don't quote me on
that).
>From somewhere in 11.3, 'isdn switch-type' can be used as a global command
and an interface command.  You can set up a global switch-type, but you can
also specify a different switch-type at the interface level, which will
override the global switch-type for that interface only.
This applies for both PRI and BRI.

JMcL
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Group,

I got concrete information that if you have multiple bri interfaces on the
router, all of them must be connected to
the same ISDN switch type. How about if you have a router with multiple PRI
interfaces? Should I connect all the PRI interfaces to the same ISDN switch
type?


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ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-07 Thread Raul F. Fernandez

Dear folks,

I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
type basic-net3.

Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
correctly configured

it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
commands are in use.

When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
the physical

layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
behavior of showing the=20

physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
This causes some

confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
but seems like the CCO

is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
configuration and other sources which

I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
Any information

would be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Raul




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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla a

2000-12-07 Thread Jean-Marc Gilbert

Hello,

I'm a french guy, so using basic-net3 quite often. all your exchange is amazing
me : when I configure a router whith basic-net3 (in france) I always obtain a
physical layer ACTIVE state !!! (or the telecom provider failed in setup the
line %-)

jean-marc 

On 07-Dec-00 David Wolsefer wrote:
> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Raul F. Fernandez
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
> input?
> 
> 
> Dear folks,
> 
> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
> type basic-net3.
> 
> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
> correctly configured
> 
> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
> commands are in use.
> 
> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
> the physical
> 
> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
> behavior of showing the=20
> 
> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
> This causes some
> 
> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
> but seems like the CCO
> 
> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
> configuration and other sources which
> 
> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
> Any information
> 
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Raul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla anyinput?

2000-12-07 Thread JULIO CESAR GARCIA ALCANTAR

Can you send us configuration example, what model of cisco router are you
using
thanks
Julio Garcia

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, David Wolsefer wrote:

> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Raul F. Fernandez
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
> input?
> 
> 
> Dear folks,
> 
> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
> type basic-net3.
> 
> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
> correctly configured
> 
> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
> commands are in use.
> 
> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
> the physical
> 
> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
> behavior of showing the=20
> 
> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
> This causes some
> 
> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
> but seems like the CCO
> 
> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
> configuration and other sources which
> 
> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
> Any information
> 
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Raul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla a

2000-12-14 Thread Jean-Marc Gilbert

Hi,
one thing is that <> ISDN switch used by FT are not basic-net3, but vn3
(if I remember). I know basic-net3 _should_ be ok even whith those switch's but
I had a case I had to specify vn3...
Hope this help,

On 08-Dec-00 David Wolsefer wrote:
> The routers in question were 7206s located in Paris. I saw more of this
> exact behavior on some other routers in Europe, but can't remember which
> ones. Here is the relevant portion of the config for the router in question.
> I don't have a good explanation for this behavior, but when I asked, I was
> told that it occurred because they were not using a true basic-net3 switch,
> they were using some sort of emulation instead.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858
> 
> isdn switch-type basic-net3
> !
> username SYDNEY password 7 0 
> username STOCKHOLM password 7 1 
> !
> interface BRI3/6
>  ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
>  ip accounting output-packets
>  encapsulation ppp
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  dialer idle-timeout 600
>  dialer enable-timeout 10
>  dialer wait-for-carrier-time 90
>  dialer map ip Y.Y.Y.Y name STOCKHOLM 001234567890
>  dialer-group 2
>  ppp authentication chap
>  ppp chap hostname foo
>  hold-queue 75 in
> !
> dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JULIO CESAR GARCIA ALCANTAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:43 PM
> To: David Wolsefer
> Cc: Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
> any input?
> 
> 
> Can you send us configuration example, what model of cisco router are you
> using
> thanks
> Julio Garcia
> 
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, David Wolsefer wrote:
> 
>> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
>> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> Raul F. Fernandez
>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
>> input?
>>
>>
>> Dear folks,
>>
>> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
>> type basic-net3.
>>
>> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
>> correctly configured
>>
>> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
>> commands are in use.
>>
>> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
>> the physical
>>
>> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
>> behavior of showing the=20
>>
>> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
>> This causes some
>>
>> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
>> but seems like the CCO
>>
>> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
>> configuration and other sources which
>>
>> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
>> Any information
>>
>> would be appreciated.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Raul
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Multiple ISDN switch type on the same router [7:5198]

2001-05-20 Thread Ronny Jonathan

> Group,
>
> Is the dialer-group command on the BRI interface optional. In other words
> will the router dial if no dialer-group is configured on the bri
interface?

It depend on how you want to configure your BRI interface. Say you want to
configure it as a DDR (Dial on Demand Routing), than the dialer-group
command
is a must.

But if you configure it as a backup interface (using the backup command)
than it is not needed to use the dialer-group command

Regards,
Ronny




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Re: Multiple ISDN switch type on the same router [7:5198]

2001-05-20 Thread Brad McConnell

I'd want to question the source of the concrete information.

True, you can only configure one in global configuration mode, but you can
then configure the switch-type on the interface as well.  Any interface
configured switch-type will override the global one.

-Brad McConnell.


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>
> I got concrete information that if you have multiple bri interfaces on the
> router, all of them must be connected to
> the same ISDN switch type. How about if you have a router with multiple
PRI
> interfaces? Should I connect all the PRI interfaces to the same ISDN
switch
> type?
>
>
> Thanks
> L. W.
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Re: Multiple ISDN switch type on the same router [7:5198]

2001-05-20 Thread Ronny Jonathan

> Group,
>
> I got concrete information that if you have multiple bri interfaces on the
> router, all of them must be connected to
> the same ISDN switch type. How about if you have a router with multiple
PRI
> interfaces? Should I connect all the PRI interfaces to the same ISDN
switch
> type?

It is not neccessary to connect all the BRI/PRI interfaces to the same ISDN
switch.
You can configure the ISDN switch type per interface under interface
configuration mode.

Regards,
Ronny




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Re: Multiple ISDN switch type on the same router [7:5198]

2001-05-22 Thread Lists Wizard

The source is CIM for ISDN.

Thanks
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> I'd want to question the source of the concrete information.
>
> True, you can only configure one in global configuration mode, but you can
> then configure the switch-type on the interface as well.  Any interface
> configured switch-type will override the global one.
>
> -Brad McConnell.
>
>
> ""Lists Wizard""  wrote in message
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> > Group,
> >
> > I got concrete information that if you have multiple bri interfaces on
the
> > router, all of them must be connected to
> > the same ISDN switch type. How about if you have a router with multiple
> PRI
> > interfaces? Should I connect all the PRI interfaces to the same ISDN
> switch
> > type?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > L. W.
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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-07 Thread David Wolsefer

This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Raul F. Fernandez
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
input?


Dear folks,

I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
type basic-net3.

Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
correctly configured

it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
commands are in use.

When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
the physical

layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
behavior of showing the=20

physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
This causes some

confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
but seems like the CCO

is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
configuration and other sources which

I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
Any information

would be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Raul




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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-08 Thread David Wolsefer

The routers in question were 7206s located in Paris. I saw more of this
exact behavior on some other routers in Europe, but can't remember which
ones. Here is the relevant portion of the config for the router in question.
I don't have a good explanation for this behavior, but when I asked, I was
told that it occurred because they were not using a true basic-net3 switch,
they were using some sort of emulation instead.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
username SYDNEY password 7 0 
username STOCKHOLM password 7 1 
!
interface BRI3/6
 ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
 ip accounting output-packets
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 600
 dialer enable-timeout 10
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 90
 dialer map ip Y.Y.Y.Y name STOCKHOLM 001234567890
 dialer-group 2
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname foo
 hold-queue 75 in
!
dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit

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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:43 PM
To: David Wolsefer
Cc: Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
any input?


Can you send us configuration example, what model of cisco router are you
using
thanks
Julio Garcia

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, David Wolsefer wrote:

> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Raul F. Fernandez
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
> input?
>
>
> Dear folks,
>
> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
> type basic-net3.
>
> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
> correctly configured
>
> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
> commands are in use.
>
> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
> the physical
>
> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
> behavior of showing the=20
>
> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
> This causes some
>
> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
> but seems like the CCO
>
> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
> configuration and other sources which
>
> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
> Any information
>
> would be appreciated.
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>
> Raul
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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-10 Thread jenny . mcleod

Interesting.
When I set up a router using basic-net3, a colleague warned me that it
would not show active until a call was placed - he didn't know why but that
was what he had experienced.  When I set up the router, though, the
physical layer DID show active without a call.
If the behaviour depends on the exact switch used in the exchange, that
would explain why it differs sometimes.

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 11/12/2000
09:40 am ---


"David Wolsefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 09/12/2000 04:46:57
am

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Subject:  RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
  any input?


The routers in question were 7206s located in Paris. I saw more of this
exact behavior on some other routers in Europe, but can't remember which
ones. Here is the relevant portion of the config for the router in
question.
I don't have a good explanation for this behavior, but when I asked, I was
told that it occurred because they were not using a true basic-net3 switch,
they were using some sort of emulation instead.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
username SYDNEY password 7 0 
username STOCKHOLM password 7 1 
!
interface BRI3/6
 ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
 ip accounting output-packets
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 600
 dialer enable-timeout 10
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 90
 dialer map ip Y.Y.Y.Y name STOCKHOLM 001234567890
 dialer-group 2
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname foo
 hold-queue 75 in
!
dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit

-Original Message-
From: JULIO CESAR GARCIA ALCANTAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:43 PM
To: David Wolsefer
Cc: Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
any input?


Can you send us configuration example, what model of cisco router are you
using
thanks
Julio Garcia

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, David Wolsefer wrote:

> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Raul F. Fernandez
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
> input?
>
>
> Dear folks,
>
> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
> type basic-net3.
>
> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
> correctly configured
>
> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
> commands are in use.
>
> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
> the physical
>
> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
> behavior of showing the=20
>
> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
> This causes some
>
> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further
=
> but seems like the CCO
>
> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
> configuration and other sources which
>
> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites.
=
> Any information
>
> would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Raul
>
>
>
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