Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-23 Thread nrf

Exactly



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> It means file - in the waste bin - and forget them, at least that's how my
> company treats such people, because they are claiming to be something they
> are not, however you dress it up
>
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> Brian Zeitz
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> Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
>
>
> I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?




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RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-23 Thread Wessex Mail

It means file - in the waste bin - and forget them, at least that's how my
company treats such people, because they are claiming to be something they
are not, however you dress it up

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I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?




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RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Brian Zeitz

Oh I am not a recruiter, I just read something on the net. Can I put
CCNP(q) when/if I pass my routing exam. Ha ha, just kidding! I know
there is a few kinds of CCIE, Security, and S&R. Though maybe the (Q)
was for QOS. Nevermind :)


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it means they only passed the qualification exam. they should not be
putting
CCIE on their resume at all.  toss it!  :)

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
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> I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?




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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Todd Carswell

I don't think employers are being fooled by somebody putting CCIE-Q on their
resume.  I can see a person getting into a tight spot, though, if they
fraudulently try to pass themselves off as having passed the CCIE.  After
all, a company can just check with Cisco to make sure that a person is
certified.  The penalty for this infraction would be a rescinded job offer.

I personally have put the phrase "CCIE candidate" on my resume.  I am
currently unemployed (Lucent shut our facility down here in Raleigh) and
actively seeking employment.  I have put that phrase on my resume to let
employers know that, although I am out of work, I am not sitting around
twittling my thumbs waiting for a job to fall out of the sky.  In addition,
it will create a scenario where interviewers will ask my about my networking
knowledge.

My full-time job right now is studying for the CCIE.  My lab exam is on May
2nd.  Hope I pass it!!!  :-)




""nrf""  wrote in message
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> Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get
you
> a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab do
> you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people
> can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.
>
> While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the
written
> is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in
pretending
> that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
> allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop
> them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the
classic
> slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted
pseudo-cert,
> then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they
> (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
> who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
> program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how
about
> a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom
in
> his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I
hold
> a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
> from Harvard.
>
>
>
>
> ""Michael J. Doherty""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that
the
> > individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
> > challenged/passed the Lab.
> >
> > As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
> > advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview question,
I
> > would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume
> until
> > I can honestly claim the entire title.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Zeitz"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> > Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
> >
> >
> > > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
> > _
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread nrf

Inline
""Tshon""  wrote in message
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> guys should keep in mind:
>
> No there is no CCIE Q or written cert.  Cisco has identified you as
> a lab candidate.  This applies
> to everyone on the planet.  You have been invited to take the lab,
> if you pass the written and after
> that date you are still a CCIE candidate just like everyone elso on
> the planet.
> Just because you are a CCNP w/a specialization or not. you are
> not invited!
>
> Next there is the financial aspect for corporations (the smart one).
>  CCIE's are expensive salaries are easily
> $120,000/yr plus.

Maybe in 1999.  Not anymore.

> But, if I can get a guy just before he passes lab
> but after he has passed his written, I know
> that he is trying and his knowledge will continue to increase.  I
> then close to lab time have a CCIE on staff,
> working for pennies.  And I have first crack at a offer.

 If he passes, which is no sure thing.

>
> So, thanks to the demand for CCIE's the CCIE written as you have
> been identified has had a little weight,
> not taking into account the present economy.

Sure, but I think to be more relevant you do indeed have to take account of
the present economy.


>
> Now there have been job posting for CCIE written, candidates,
> Qualification exam people.  And if you feel
> confident enough to wear that title put what they are looking for on
> the resume.
>
> Now CCNP whatevers have not been identified as such by anyone on
> the planet.
>
> Finally it comes down to this "Do you have a number behind those
> letters?"
>
> nrf wrote:
>
> >Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get
you
> >a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab do
> >you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people
> >can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.
> >
> >While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the
written
> >is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in
pretending
> >that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
> >allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to
stop
> >them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the
classic
> >slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted
pseudo-cert,
> >then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because
they
> >(A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
> >who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
> >program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how
about
> >a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom
in
> >his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I
hold
> >a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
> >from Harvard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >""Michael J. Doherty""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >>It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that
the
> >>individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
> >>challenged/passed the Lab.
> >>
> >>As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
> >>advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview question,
I
> >>would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume
> >>
> >until
> >
> >>I can honestly claim the entire title.
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Brian Zeitz"
> >>To:
> >>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> >>Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
> >>
> >>
> >>>I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
> >>>
> >>_
> >>Do You Yahoo!?
> >>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Tshon

guys should keep in mind:

No there is no CCIE Q or written cert.  Cisco has identified you as 
a lab candidate.  This applies
to everyone on the planet.  You have been invited to take the lab, 
if you pass the written and after
that date you are still a CCIE candidate just like everyone elso on 
the planet.
Just because you are a CCNP w/a specialization or not. you are 
not invited!

Next there is the financial aspect for corporations (the smart one). 
 CCIE's are expensive salaries are easily
$120,000/yr plus.  But, if I can get a guy just before he passes lab 
but after he has passed his written, I know
that he is trying and his knowledge will continue to increase.  I 
then close to lab time have a CCIE on staff,
working for pennies.  And I have first crack at a offer.

So, thanks to the demand for CCIE's the CCIE written as you have 
been identified has had a little weight,
not taking into account the present economy.

Now there have been job posting for CCIE written, candidates, 
Qualification exam people.  And if you feel
confident enough to wear that title put what they are looking for on 
the resume.  

Now CCNP whatevers have not been identified as such by anyone on 
the planet.

Finally it comes down to this "Do you have a number behind those 
letters?"

nrf wrote:

>Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you
>a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab do
>you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people
>can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.
>
>While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written
>is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending
>that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
>allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop
>them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the classic
>slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert,
>then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they
>(A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
>who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
>program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how about
>a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in
>his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I hold
>a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
>from Harvard.
>
>
>
>
>""Michael J. Doherty""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>>It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the
>>individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
>>challenged/passed the Lab.
>>
>>As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
>>advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview question, I
>>would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume
>>
>until
>
>>I can honestly claim the entire title.
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Brian Zeitz"
>>To:
>>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
>>Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
>>
>>
>>>I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
>>>
>>_
>>Do You Yahoo!?
>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Michael J. Doherty

Never said that I agreed with the practice.  I am perfectly well aware of
Cisco's stance on the subject.

My message, also, did not state that I thought that it is not a big deal.
Personally, if I were in a position responsible for hiring, all candidates
who posted that information in their resume would automatically find
themselves removed from consideration.

I am proud of my own accomplishments and all of the initials that I can
place behind my name are placed with the full knowledge that I have the
score sheets and experience to back them up.

Sincerely,

Michael J. Doherty
MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, CCNA Certified, CCDA Certified,  NREMT-P and many others
that do not have initials.

- Original Message -
From: "nrf" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]


> Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get
you
> a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab do
> you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people
> can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.
>
> While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the
written
> is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in
pretending
> that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
> allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop
> them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the
classic
> slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted
pseudo-cert,
> then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they
> (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
> who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
> program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how
about
> a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom
in
> his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I
hold
> a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
> from Harvard.
>
>
>
>
> ""Michael J. Doherty""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that
the
> > individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
> > challenged/passed the Lab.
> >
> > As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
> > advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview question,
I
> > would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume
> until
> > I can honestly claim the entire title.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Zeitz"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> > Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
> >
> >
> > > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
> > _
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
_
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RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Roberts, Larry

That's ok, because I'm the President of the United States (F-MLN)
(Future-Most Likely Not )

:)

Larry

-Original Message-
From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]


Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you
a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab do
you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people
can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.

While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written
is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending
that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop
them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the classic
slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert,
then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they
(A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how about
a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in
his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I hold
a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
from Harvard.




""Michael J. Doherty""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that 
> the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet 
> challenged/passed the Lab.
>
> As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on 
> advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview 
> question, I would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification 
> on my resume
until
> I can honestly claim the entire title.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Zeitz"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
>
>
> > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread nrf

I never meant to imply that you supported the practice.  I should have said
that some people treat this as a common practice, not that you were one of
those people.


- Original Message -
From: "Michael J. Doherty" 
To: "nrf" ; 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]


> Never said that I agreed with the practice.  I am perfectly well aware of
> Cisco's stance on the subject.
>
> My message, also, did not state that I thought that it is not a big deal.
> Personally, if I were in a position responsible for hiring, all candidates
> who posted that information in their resume would automatically find
> themselves removed from consideration.
>
> I am proud of my own accomplishments and all of the initials that I can
> place behind my name are placed with the full knowledge that I have the
> score sheets and experience to back them up.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Michael J. Doherty
> MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, CCNA Certified, CCDA Certified,  NREMT-P and many
others
> that do not have initials.
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "nrf" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]
>
>
> > Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get
> you
> > a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab
do
> > you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that
people
> > can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.
> >
> > While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the
> written
> > is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in
> pretending
> > that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
> > allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to
stop
> > them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the
> classic
> > slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted
> pseudo-cert,
> > then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because
they
> > (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
> > who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
> > program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how
> about
> > a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a
classroom
> in
> > his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I
> hold
> > a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
> > from Harvard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Michael J. Doherty""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that
> the
> > > individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
> > > challenged/passed the Lab.
> > >
> > > As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
> > > advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview
question,
> I
> > > would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume
> > until
> > > I can honestly claim the entire title.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Brian Zeitz"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> > > Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
> > > _
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread nrf

Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you
a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab do
you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people
can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.

While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written
is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending
that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop
them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the classic
slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert,
then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they
(A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how about
a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in
his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I hold
a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
from Harvard.




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> It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the
> individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
> challenged/passed the Lab.
>
> As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
> advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview question, I
> would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume
until
> I can honestly claim the entire title.
>
>
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> > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Persio Pucci

Hehehe... just like some folks that I've seen saying that they are CCNP 1/4
or 2/4... u can do the math :)

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> I would quess that means that person has passed the CCIE Qualification
Exam,
> or the written portion of the certification.  He or she is presumably
> studying/preparing for the lab exam.




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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Michael J. Doherty

It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the
individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
challenged/passed the Lab.

As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview question, I
would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume until
I can honestly claim the entire title.


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From: "Brian Zeitz" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]


> I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
_
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Re: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread MJ

it means they only passed the qualification exam. they should not be putting
CCIE on their resume at all

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RE: CCIE Question [7:36243]

2002-02-22 Thread Chris Charlebois

I would quess that means that person has passed the CCIE Qualification Exam,
or the written portion of the certification.  He or she is presumably
studying/preparing for the lab exam.


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