RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
But imagine how cool it would be to be the 'FIRST' CCIE in the world. It's like being the first man on the moon! There's only one person who could say that. Of course, the subjective question would be to see who is the 'BEST' in the world! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52199t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Who would be the hosts?:) Brad Ellis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... they need to keep the number for CCIE's less than 10,000. they should so a squeeze and change everyone's #. then, when it start to get closer to 10,000 again, we have a contest like American Idol, call it Worldwide IEdol instead. have them program routers and solve technical problems in front of a live audience. everyone could then go to groupstudy and vote for who they want to kick off the show!!! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Voice: 702-968-5100 FAX: 702-968-5104 Moffett, Ryan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, the online verification system says that Stuart Biggs is CCIE 1025, though the current status is Inactive. -Original Message- From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52165] Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE) was/is Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco. This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned as CCIE #1025. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159] In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52192t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Priscilla Oppenheimer, Howard Berkowitz, and Jeff Doyle -Original Message- From: Jason Viera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 August 2002 14:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Who would be the hosts?:) Brad Ellis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... they need to keep the number for CCIE's less than 10,000. they should so a squeeze and change everyone's #. then, when it start to get closer to 10,000 again, we have a contest like American Idol, call it Worldwide IEdol instead. have them program routers and solve technical problems in front of a live audience. everyone could then go to groupstudy and vote for who they want to kick off the show!!! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Voice: 702-968-5100 FAX: 702-968-5104 Moffett, Ryan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, the online verification system says that Stuart Biggs is CCIE 1025, though the current status is Inactive. -Original Message- From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52165] Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE) was/is Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco. This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned as CCIE #1025. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159] In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52214t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
nah, you dont want them as hosts...
Howard and Priscilla would never stop talking. They would be just way to
helpful and feel too bad when people got booted off the show. Not to
mention, neither are CCIEs. :)
Jeff would have to recertify as only active CCIEs would be allowed on the
show!!
To make the show spicy, my vote for the hosts: Scott Morris and Paul
Borghese
For the critics: Brian Dennis, Kathryn Saccenti, Lou Rossi
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Priscilla Oppenheimer, Howard Berkowitz, and Jeff Doyle
-Original Message-
From: Jason Viera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 28 August 2002 14:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Who would be the hosts?:)
Brad Ellis wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
they need to keep the number for CCIE's less than 10,000. they should
so
a
squeeze and change everyone's #. then, when it start to get closer
to 10,000 again, we have a contest like American Idol, call it
Worldwide
IEdol
instead. have them program routers and solve technical problems in
front
of
a live audience. everyone could then go to groupstudy and vote for who
they
want to kick off the show!!!
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
Voice: 702-968-5100
FAX: 702-968-5104
Moffett, Ryan wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Well, the online verification system says that Stuart Biggs is
CCIE
1025,
though the current status is Inactive.
-Original Message-
From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote
[7:52165]
Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE)
was/is
Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco.
This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned
as
CCIE
#1025.
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Cotts
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote
[7:52159]
In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding
the
first
CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the
quoted
post
below he does provide a name.
snip
The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is
that
his
certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I
took
the
test
from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The
lab
itself
had
a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two -
kind
of
an
inside joke for networking/compuer jocks).
unsnip
-Original Message-
From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his
proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and
it's
our
guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE.
Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at
networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and
about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled
stating his intention was to
make
it difficult so as to require studying.
Dave
Chuck's Long Road wrote:
this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of
confusion as
well
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr
esent.html
shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02
The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years,
some have retired,
some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last
time
I
looked )
So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were
8031 active
CCIE's.
As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was
tested by CCIE
1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name )
The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test
candidates.
No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used.
Chuck
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Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Kathe Saccenti would be an excellent choice. This group, indeed any group,
would be honored by her participation. She is the smartest most personable
most terrific ever
( let's see if sucking up gets me a couple of points next time I'm in the
CCIE Lab ;- )
--
z
Brad Ellis wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
nah, you dont want them as hosts...
Howard and Priscilla would never stop talking. They would be just way to
helpful and feel too bad when people got booted off the show. Not to
mention, neither are CCIEs. :)
Jeff would have to recertify as only active CCIEs would be allowed on the
show!!
To make the show spicy, my vote for the hosts: Scott Morris and Paul
Borghese
For the critics: Brian Dennis, Kathryn Saccenti, Lou Rossi
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Priscilla Oppenheimer, Howard Berkowitz, and Jeff Doyle
-Original Message-
From: Jason Viera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 28 August 2002 14:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Who would be the hosts?:)
Brad Ellis wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
they need to keep the number for CCIE's less than 10,000. they should
so
a
squeeze and change everyone's #. then, when it start to get closer
to 10,000 again, we have a contest like American Idol, call it
Worldwide
IEdol
instead. have them program routers and solve technical problems in
front
of
a live audience. everyone could then go to groupstudy and vote for who
they
want to kick off the show!!!
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
Voice: 702-968-5100
FAX: 702-968-5104
Moffett, Ryan wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Well, the online verification system says that Stuart Biggs is
CCIE
1025,
though the current status is Inactive.
-Original Message-
From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote
[7:52165]
Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE)
was/is
Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco.
This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned
as
CCIE
#1025.
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Cotts
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote
[7:52159]
In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding
the
first
CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the
quoted
post
below he does provide a name.
snip
The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is
that
his
certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I
took
the
test
from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The
lab
itself
had
a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two -
kind
of
an
inside joke for networking/compuer jocks).
unsnip
-Original Message-
From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his
proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and
it's
our
guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE.
Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at
networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and
about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled
stating his intention was to
make
it difficult so as to require studying.
Dave
Chuck's Long Road wrote:
this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of
confusion as
well
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr
esent.html
shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02
The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years,
some have retired,
some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last
time
I
looked )
So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were
8031 active
CCIE's.
As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was
tested by CCIE
1025 (
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52147t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52149t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
NOT including non-recert's? That would mean Cisco recycles the numbers? Bill Creighton CCNP Senior System Engineer Motorola iDEN CNRC Packet Data -Original Message- From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52151t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Jim Brown wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52152t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Yes someone who reads this list (congrats again if you read this Ray) just passed and got a number in the mid 10030's Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Diliberto Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] I just heard from a friend who just passed the lab. Cisco is in the 5 digits now for CCIE numbers. Ken Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52153t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Actually no, not all the #'s are active still (people who let their certification expire) and they didn't start at 1...they started at 1024. So I have a paradox to think about, a CCIE proctors the lab, so who proctored for the first CCIE? Kinda like what came first: the CCIE or the proctor. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52154t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Don't you mean there will be 1 people who have passed the test? At 05:34 PM 8/27/2002 +, Jim Brown wrote: First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52155t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Jim Brown wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52156t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
The following is cut from a post to the list by Terry Slattery. It was in answer to a similar question. In it he does not identify CCIE# 1025. I seem to remember another post where he does provide a name for #1025. I'll continue searching for it. snip The folks here at Chesapeake forwarded the following discussion to me. The first lab was numbered 1024 as kind of a secret handshake, by the first CCIE program administrator, whose name I remember as Scott Edwards. Scott left Cisco several years ago. The first CCIE (another Scott, but I don't recall his last name), proctored the first lab. He spent the entire weekend prior to the test preparing scenarios and cables (good and bad ones). These were the days of the AGS+, where to do a DCE device, you had to select the correct applique and set the clock jumpers on the interface card. It was an interesting exam! It was a nice mix of hardware and software tasks. Kinda fun, actually. I sent Scott running around quite a lot go gather docs that I needed (remember, no CD in those days) to identify the exact jumpers to set on some weird cards I had to use. There were no racks - everything was on the floor or on boxes in the room. I stacked the routers on the floor and cabled them together right there. All this was in August, 1993. -tcs unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52158t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159]
In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52159t=52159 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52161]
according to the Cisco Verification tool: CCIE Verification Tool Yes, Stuart Biggs is CCIE number 1025. However, certification is NOT currently active. (Current status is Inactive). Chuck z Daniel Cotts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52161t=52161 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
This is it! The thing that will turn the industry around. Let's start asking people if their network is C1k compatable. Explain how most networks were designed for four digit CCIE's and they will need to hire us for a complete overhall of the network. Yea sure it will cost a lot, but look at the consequences of not upgrading your network to C1k compatability! Paul - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Jim Brown wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52164t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52165]
Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE) was/is Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco. This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned as CCIE #1025. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159] In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52165t=52165 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Its been a long time coming folks. In the grand scheme of things, I'd say that the 5 digit is right about on time considering that other elite industry certs that have been around for approximately the same amount of time are either or already there or way past that. I don't think that it will hurt the value of the cert because once again at the end of the day, its the engineer/consultant/analyst et al, that makes the cert not the other way around. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP MCP Waiting in written la la land for the lab -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] This is it! The thing that will turn the industry around. Let's start asking people if their network is C1k compatable. Explain how most networks were designed for four digit CCIE's and they will need to hire us for a complete overhall of the network. Yea sure it will cost a lot, but look at the consequences of not upgrading your network to C1k compatability! Paul - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Jim Brown wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52167t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52169]
Well, the online verification system says that Stuart Biggs is CCIE 1025, though the current status is Inactive. -Original Message- From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52165] Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE) was/is Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco. This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned as CCIE #1025. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159] In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52169t=52169 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Paul, as a survivor of the brokerage industry, where something similar happened about four years ago, I have to offer this gentle correction. it is C10K, not C1K The Dow was approaching 10,000 for the first time in history and there was a tempest in a teapot about Dow10K system compatibility. What I do believe is that all existing CCIE's should be renumbered to reflect the five digit format. Maybe go to hex to preserve your existing assignment EG CCIE # 1025 become CCIE # A1025 the new pool become CCIE B That should keep us all happy and customers rightfully confused for decades to come. Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Paul Borghese wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is it! The thing that will turn the industry around. Let's start asking people if their network is C1k compatable. Explain how most networks were designed for four digit CCIE's and they will need to hire us for a complete overhall of the network. Yea sure it will cost a lot, but look at the consequences of not upgrading your network to C1k compatability! Paul - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Jim Brown wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52170t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52173]
with the advent of the CCIE verification tool on CCO, it is now possible to check out these rumors and bits of misinformation that have crept into the lexicon. http://tools.cisco.com/CCIE/Schedule_Lab/CCIEOnline?verify ( requires CCO login ) You do need to know the real first name and correct spelling of the last name. For example CCIE Verification Tool No, I'm sorry, Bruce Caslow is not CCIE number 3139. To receive a positive verification, you will need to enter in the CCIE's name exactly as it is in the CCIE database. For example, if the CCIE's first name is Dan, you may also want to try Daniel. Since there is a possibility that we have a different spelling of the person's name, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a last resort but CCIE Verification Tool Yes, Andrew Caslow is CCIE number 3139. Certification is currently active. Still, this is one way to stop the liars out there who are claiming they are CCIE's - Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Chuck Ryan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE) was/is Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco. This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned as CCIE #1025. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159] In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52173t=52173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slatter [7:52166]
so if a CCIE loses his/her active status, does that give him/her the right to continue to post their CCIE # in their sig and tell everyone they are a CCIE? I believe if they lose active status, they are NOT a CCIE anymore (sort of like a doctor losing their credentials). what do you guys think? thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Voice: 702-968-5100 FAX: 702-968-5104 Chuck's Long Road wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... according to the Cisco Verification tool: CCIE Verification Tool Yes, Stuart Biggs is CCIE number 1025. However, certification is NOT currently active. (Current status is Inactive). Chuck z Daniel Cotts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52166t=52166 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
they need to keep the number for CCIE's less than 10,000. they should so a squeeze and change everyone's #. then, when it start to get closer to 10,000 again, we have a contest like American Idol, call it Worldwide IEdol instead. have them program routers and solve technical problems in front of a live audience. everyone could then go to groupstudy and vote for who they want to kick off the show!!! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Voice: 702-968-5100 FAX: 702-968-5104 Moffett, Ryan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, the online verification system says that Stuart Biggs is CCIE 1025, though the current status is Inactive. -Original Message- From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52165] Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE) was/is Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco. This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned as CCIE #1025. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159] In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52171t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
be careful what you wish for, Brad - you might just get it ;- -- Brad Ellis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... they need to keep the number for CCIE's less than 10,000. they should so a squeeze and change everyone's #. then, when it start to get closer to 10,000 again, we have a contest like American Idol, call it Worldwide IEdol instead. have them program routers and solve technical problems in front of a live audience. everyone could then go to groupstudy and vote for who they want to kick off the show!!! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Voice: 702-968-5100 FAX: 702-968-5104 Moffett, Ryan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, the online verification system says that Stuart Biggs is CCIE 1025, though the current status is Inactive. -Original Message- From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52165] Actually, I thought/read/heard that CCIE #1025 (aka the first CCIE) was/is Jeff Buddemeier, technical lead for Cisco. This is the first time I ever heard the name Stewart Biggs mentioned as CCIE #1025. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slattery quote [7:52159] In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the first CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted post below he does provide a name. snip The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab itself had a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind of an inside joke for networking/compuer jocks). unsnip -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr esent.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52175t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] 2nd Terry Slatter [7:52146]
even Cisco seems to concede that the CCIE is a permanent award - kinda like
judges remain your honor and congress slime remain Senator or
Congressperson even if they were run out of office as criminals.
The verification tool does note the inactive status.
CCIE Verification Tool
Yes, Jeffrey Doyle is CCIE number 1919. However, certification is NOT
currently active. (Current status is Inactive).
Brad Ellis wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
so if a CCIE loses his/her active status, does that give him/her the right
to continue to post their CCIE # in their sig and tell everyone they are a
CCIE? I believe if they lose active status, they are NOT a CCIE anymore
(sort of like a doctor losing their credentials). what do you guys think?
thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
Voice: 702-968-5100
FAX: 702-968-5104
Chuck's Long Road wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
according to the Cisco Verification tool:
CCIE Verification Tool
Yes, Stuart Biggs is CCIE number 1025. However, certification is NOT
currently active. (Current status is Inactive).
Chuck
z
Daniel Cotts wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
In my previous post I quoted a post from Terry Slattery regarding the
first
CCIEs. In it he did not recall the name of CCIE# 1025. In the quoted
post
below he does provide a name.
snip
The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that
his
certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took
the
test
from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026. The lab
itself
had
a plaque outside the door labeling it as #1024 (a power of two - kind
of
an
inside joke for networking/compuer jocks).
unsnip
-Original Message-
From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his
proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's
our
guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE.
Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in
Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of
us took the
test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to
make
it difficult so as to require studying.
Dave
Chuck's Long Road wrote:
this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of
confusion as
well
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_pr
esent.html
shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02
The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years,
some have retired,
some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time
I
looked )
So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were
8031 active
CCIE's.
As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was
tested by CCIE
1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name )
The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates.
No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used.
Chuck
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http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52176t=52146
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