RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-04 Thread Dom
: RE: H e l p  [7:73412]


Dom wrote:
> 
> From our website -
> 
> "Whilst not wishing to get involved in the 'holy war' of which text
> editor is the best, Dom happens to like UltraEdit- 32 available
> at
> http://www.ultraedit.com. This is a comprehensive Text Editor,
> HEX
> Editor, HTML Editor and Programmers Editor. Syntax highlighting
> is
> available for hundreds of languages ranging from Ada to XML.
> There is
> even a syntax file for Cisco IOS command. 

What can that syntax file do?

Thanks,

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RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-03 Thread Zsombor Papp
Dom wrote:
> 
> From our website -
> 
> "Whilst not wishing to get involved in the 'holy war' of which
> text
> editor is the best, Dom happens to like UltraEdit- 32 available
> at
> http://www.ultraedit.com. This is a comprehensive Text Editor,
> HEX
> Editor, HTML Editor and Programmers Editor. Syntax highlighting
> is
> available for hundreds of languages ranging from Ada to XML.
> There is
> even a syntax file for Cisco IOS command. 

What can that syntax file do?

Thanks,

Zsombor


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Re: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-03 Thread Shab Hanon
Thanks  Fred... it is good link :-)


Cheers,
Shab.



""Reimer, Fred""  wrote in message
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> Go to www.vim.org and download gvim.  Probably the best text editor out
> there.  You are likely running into the CR/LF LF issues, which gvim
handles
> nicely.
>
> Fred Reimer - CCNA
>
>
> Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
> Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
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> -Original Message-
> From: Shab Hanon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: H e l p  [7:73412]
>
> Hi,
> It will open but I cannot read any thing out of it "using Notepad"... the
> out put looks something different from what I see in the router.
>
> I hear from a friend it must be opened via Unix editor for windows.
>
> And I am looking for that kind of editor.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Shab.
>
>
>
>
> ""Zsombor Papp""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I often use Notepad for this. What exactly happens when you say you
can't
> > open it?
> >
> > Or are you asking how to get the config out of the router? Check out the
> > 'copy' commands on the router. Cut-n-paste also works great (in both
> > directions), if your config is not too long.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Zsombor
> >
> > Shab Hanon wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello every body,
> > >
> > > I want to make some changes in the config file using Notepad...
> > > but
> > > unfortunately I can not open the config file as I see it in the
> > > router...
> > >
> > > Can any one help me and tell me about a software to open and
> > > make some
> > > changes in the config file so I can upload it back into the
> > > router.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Shab.
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RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-03 Thread Dom
>From our website -

"Whilst not wishing to get involved in the 'holy war' of which text
editor is the best, Dom happens to like UltraEdit- 32 available at
http://www.ultraedit.com. This is a comprehensive Text Editor, HEX
Editor, HTML Editor and Programmers Editor. Syntax highlighting is
available for hundreds of languages ranging from Ada to XML. There is
even a syntax file for Cisco IOS command. Very useful for spotting
typos. A time limited, fully functional download is available on the web
site."

Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
SysDom Technologies
Visit our website - www.sysdom.org

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Or try Wordpad.

Thanks,

Zsombor

Reimer, Fred wrote:
> 
> Go to www.vim.org and download gvim.  Probably the best text editor 
> out there.  You are likely running into the CR/LF LF issues, which
> gvim handles
> nicely.
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA
> 
> 
> Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
> Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Shab Hanon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: H e l p  [7:73412]
> 
> Hi,
> It will open but I cannot read any thing out of it "using Notepad"... 
> the out put looks something different from what I see in the router.
> 
> I hear from a friend it must be opened via Unix editor for windows.
> 
> And I am looking for that kind of editor.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Shab.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ""Zsombor Papp""  wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I often use Notepad for this. What exactly happens when you
> say you can't
> > open it?
> >
> > Or are you asking how to get the config out of the router?
> Check out the
> > 'copy' commands on the router. Cut-n-paste also works great
> (in both
> > directions), if your config is not too long.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Zsombor
> >
> > Shab Hanon wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello every body,
> > >
> > > I want to make some changes in the config file using
> Notepad...
> > > but
> > > unfortunately I can not open the config file as I see it in
> the
> > > router...
> > >
> > > Can any one help me and tell me about a software to open and make 
> > > some changes in the config file so I can upload it back into the
> > > router.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Shab.
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RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-03 Thread Jens Neelsen
Hi,

try Wordpad. It can also open files created by copying the
configuration via tftp.

Jens Neelsen

--- Zsombor Papp  wrote:
> I often use Notepad for this. What exactly happens when you
> say you can't
> open it?
> 
> Or are you asking how to get the config out of the router?
> Check out the
> 'copy' commands on the router. Cut-n-paste also works great
> (in both
> directions), if your config is not too long.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Zsombor
> 
> Shab Hanon wrote:
> > 
> > Hello every body,
> > 
> > I want to make some changes in the config file using
> Notepad...
> > but
> > unfortunately I can not open the config file as I see it in
> the
> > router...
> > 
> > Can any one help me and tell me about a software to open and
> > make some
> > changes in the config file so I can upload it back into the
> > router.
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Shab.
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RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-03 Thread Zsombor Papp
Or try Wordpad.

Thanks,

Zsombor

Reimer, Fred wrote:
> 
> Go to www.vim.org and download gvim.  Probably the best text
> editor out
> there.  You are likely running into the CR/LF LF issues, which
> gvim handles
> nicely.
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA
> 
> 
> Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA
> 30338
> Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Shab Hanon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: H e l p  [7:73412]
> 
> Hi,
> It will open but I cannot read any thing out of it "using
> Notepad"... the
> out put looks something different from what I see in the router.
> 
> I hear from a friend it must be opened via Unix editor for
> windows.
> 
> And I am looking for that kind of editor.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Shab.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ""Zsombor Papp""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I often use Notepad for this. What exactly happens when you
> say you can't
> > open it?
> >
> > Or are you asking how to get the config out of the router?
> Check out the
> > 'copy' commands on the router. Cut-n-paste also works great
> (in both
> > directions), if your config is not too long.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Zsombor
> >
> > Shab Hanon wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello every body,
> > >
> > > I want to make some changes in the config file using
> Notepad...
> > > but
> > > unfortunately I can not open the config file as I see it in
> the
> > > router...
> > >
> > > Can any one help me and tell me about a software to open and
> > > make some
> > > changes in the config file so I can upload it back into the
> > > router.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Shab.
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RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-03 Thread Reimer, Fred
Go to www.vim.org and download gvim.  Probably the best text editor out
there.  You are likely running into the CR/LF LF issues, which gvim handles
nicely.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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-Original Message-
From: Shab Hanon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: H e l p  [7:73412]

Hi,
It will open but I cannot read any thing out of it "using Notepad"... the
out put looks something different from what I see in the router.

I hear from a friend it must be opened via Unix editor for windows.

And I am looking for that kind of editor.


Cheers,
Shab.




""Zsombor Papp""  wrote in message
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> I often use Notepad for this. What exactly happens when you say you can't
> open it?
>
> Or are you asking how to get the config out of the router? Check out the
> 'copy' commands on the router. Cut-n-paste also works great (in both
> directions), if your config is not too long.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zsombor
>
> Shab Hanon wrote:
> >
> > Hello every body,
> >
> > I want to make some changes in the config file using Notepad...
> > but
> > unfortunately I can not open the config file as I see it in the
> > router...
> >
> > Can any one help me and tell me about a software to open and
> > make some
> > changes in the config file so I can upload it back into the
> > router.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Shab.
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Re: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-03 Thread Shab Hanon
Hi,
It will open but I cannot read any thing out of it "using Notepad"... the
out put looks something different from what I see in the router.

I hear from a friend it must be opened via Unix editor for windows.

And I am looking for that kind of editor.


Cheers,
Shab.




""Zsombor Papp""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I often use Notepad for this. What exactly happens when you say you can't
> open it?
>
> Or are you asking how to get the config out of the router? Check out the
> 'copy' commands on the router. Cut-n-paste also works great (in both
> directions), if your config is not too long.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zsombor
>
> Shab Hanon wrote:
> >
> > Hello every body,
> >
> > I want to make some changes in the config file using Notepad...
> > but
> > unfortunately I can not open the config file as I see it in the
> > router...
> >
> > Can any one help me and tell me about a software to open and
> > make some
> > changes in the config file so I can upload it back into the
> > router.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Shab.
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RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Barnhart
If you are using HyperTerm (comes with Windows) as many people do, you can
use the Capture command.  Click Tools - Capture.  Make a note of where it
will save the file.  Do a show config or such on the router, then click
Tools - Capture - Stop Capture.  This will save a file called CAPTURE.TXT. 
This can be opened with notepad.

Have fun!


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RE: H e l p .... [7:73412]

2003-08-02 Thread Zsombor Papp
I often use Notepad for this. What exactly happens when you say you can't
open it?

Or are you asking how to get the config out of the router? Check out the
'copy' commands on the router. Cut-n-paste also works great (in both
directions), if your config is not too long.


Thanks,

Zsombor

Shab Hanon wrote:
> 
> Hello every body,
> 
> I want to make some changes in the config file using Notepad...
> but
> unfortunately I can not open the config file as I see it in the
> router...
> 
> Can any one help me and tell me about a software to open and
> make some
> changes in the config file so I can upload it back into the
> router.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Shab.
> 
> 


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Re: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 08:13 AM 11/21/00, Chris Larson wrote:
>My point being that the response you will see at a workstation will not
>always be the same as the response you will see at the console of a Cisco
>router. The router generally has a more robust implementation of ICMP then
>the Windows workstation. In a sniffer trace you will see certain types of
>ICMP replies that the Windows boxes simply report as destination
>unreachables, or even timeouts even though the ICMP type as specified by6
>the RFC's is not simply unreachable.

I could believe that some implementations don't always provide to the end 
user the code that goes with the Destination Unreachable message. I have 
also seen MS-DOS Ping report a timeout even though the router sent a reply 
or ICMP message. Sniffing is required to know what's really going on.

How much ICMP an OS must implement is standardized by the IETF in the Host 
Requirements document, RFC 1112, but the document is unclear regarding how 
many details to report to the user. (It doesn't really deal with users 
whatsoever).

One LAST comment (I promise):

There are some cases where it's the end node (workstation, server, or 
whatever) that sends back the Destination Unreachable. A workstation might 
send a Protocol Unreachable or Port Unreachable. Protocol Unreachable means 
the station doesn't understand the protocol field in the IP header. Port 
Unreachable means it doesn't recognize the TCP or UDP port.

Some varieties of traceroute take advantage of the fact that a workstation 
will send back a Dest Unreachable, Port Unreachable. In particular, most 
Cisco and UNIX traceroute implementations send to a large UDP port number 
that won't be recognized by the end node. The end node sends back Dest 
Unreachable, Port Unreachable. This is a good thing because it lets you 
traceroute all the way to the end node, past all the routers in the chain.

I am going on and on about this subject because I think it's so important. 
An understanding of Destination Unreachable means a good understanding of 
how packets are forwarded in an internetwork. My messages aren't directed 
to anyone in particular, (in case you're wondering, Chris). I'm just using 
them as a "training" forum. I can't help it. Once an instructor, always an 
instructor. &;-)

Priscilla




>Of course, that is what I meant. Not that the workstation sends an ICMP, but
>that what it recieves from the router is simply a timeout.
>
>
>
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>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 4:47 PM
>Subject: Re: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>At 03:25 PM 11/20/00, Chris Larson wrote:
> >Even if this was correct you cannot simply by getting an !h say that this
>is
> >from an access-list. There are many reasons for a host unreachable message.
> >
> >Also, from most workstations (Windows that is), you will simply get a
> >timeout and neither !A or !h from packets being denied by an access-list.
>
>Sending a Destination Unreachable is the job of the Router, not the
>workstation. Whether it sends an A, H, or nothing depends on the
>implementation of ICMP that it is running.
>
>Priscilla




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Re: !H !H !H!H I GOT IT!! THANKS ALL!

2000-11-21 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

The real important thing when working with computers in the real world to
remember is:(and you will make it)
1. Don't ever say, always or never to an engineer. They will prove you
wrong.
2. Read the vendor docs but don't believe them. Test everything!!! I work in
a test lab environment in which we certify hardware and software before we
place it on our network. Which is in the millions of hosts. We are a
communications company. I made the same mistake early on to the other
computer/network/electrical engineers I work with by saying "the
documentation says" when they all got up off the ground and stopped laughing
at me. They told me, if we went by what the documentation says we would not
need a test lab, we would all lose our job, and that salesmen would rule the
world not engineers.
3. Reinvent yourself every 6 months. There is no such thing as old in
engineering just
A. Obsolete - we don't use it anymore
B. Foundation - what all new is built on
C. New - what we use today, but will be either A or B tomorrow.
4. The engineering creed -
a. Keep it simple.
b. Don't reinvent the wheel.
My personal favorite:
c. Don't work any harder than you have to.
These 4 also make a good Network  Engineer so apply them, they have gotten
me where I want to be.
I definitely would like to see the results of your testing.
If you can please send the test methodolgy, results, and config for the
test. i would appreciate that.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; cisco
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H I GOT IT!! THANKS ALL!


You are correct!!  And I have got tons of e-mail regarding this.  I stand
humbled before everyone.  And I do understand.  I was just telling my
husband
about this and he laughed.  He is used to me thinking I am always correct.

The good thing about this, is that I have learned about !A and !H and I want
to thank everyone.  The real world is different and you wait guys...I will
be
there one day.

Jennifer Cribbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>= Original Message From "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>jennifer
>the reason people are jumping on this is because you stated something and
>then on a line under it you said
>and that is it  or something to that effect.
>have you tried it out in the lab environment, that would be the answer not
>what is in a book, which are flawed.
>Duck
>- Original Message -
>From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Rossetti, Stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; cisco
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:45 AM
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>This is where I am getting my info..
>
>Ref:  chapter 8 of Intro to Cisco Router Configuration
>pages 229-230
>
>It says responses to trace command include:
>!H   The probe was rceived by the router, but not forwarded, usually due to
>an
>access list.
>PThe protocol was unreachable
>NThe network was unreachable
>UThe port was unreachable
>*Timout
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states
>that
>>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is
>blocking
>>traffic."
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>>
>>
>>On the traceroute command:
>>
>>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>>the
>>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>>taken
>>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>>the
>>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe
>will
>>
>>be displayed if successful.
>>
>>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>>An * is a timeout.
>>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>>command,
>>and not a ping.
>>
>>Jennifer Cribbs
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>=
>>>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>&

Re: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-21 Thread Chris Larson

My point being that the response you will see at a workstation will not
always be the same as the response you will see at the console of a Cisco
router. The router generally has a more robust implementation of ICMP then
the Windows workstation. In a sniffer trace you will see certain types of
ICMP replies that the Windows boxes simply report as destination
unreachables, or even timeouts even though the ICMP type as specified by6
the RFC's is not simply unreachable.



Of course, that is what I meant. Not that the workstation sends an ICMP, but
that what it recieves from the router is simply a timeout.



- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: !H !H !H!H


At 03:25 PM 11/20/00, Chris Larson wrote:
>Even if this was correct you cannot simply by getting an !h say that this
is
>from an access-list. There are many reasons for a host unreachable message.
>
>Also, from most workstations (Windows that is), you will simply get a
>timeout and neither !A or !h from packets being denied by an access-list.

Sending a Destination Unreachable is the job of the Router, not the
workstation. Whether it sends an A, H, or nothing depends on the
implementation of ICMP that it is running.

Priscilla



>- Original Message -
>From: "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Jennifer Cribbs'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cisco"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 2:23 PM
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states
that
>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is
blocking
>traffic."
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>On the traceroute command:
>
>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>the
>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>taken
>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>the
>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe
will
>
>be displayed if successful.
>
>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>An * is a timeout.
>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>command,
>and not a ping.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> >= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
> >I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
> >
> >
> >This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
> >prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
> >
> >and that is correct.
> >
> >Jennifer Cribbs
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
> >>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
> >>
> >>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
> >>stations and map it out.
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
> >>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
> >>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
> >>Subject: RE: !H
> >>
> >>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
> >>destination
> >>HOST??
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
> >>To: Jason yee
> >>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: !H
> >>
> >>
> >>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
> >>
> >>Jason yee wrote:
> >>
> >>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
> >>> traceroute results
> >>>
> >>> __
> >>> Do Y

Re: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-21 Thread Chris Larson

Of course, that is what I meant. Not that the workstation sends an ICMP, but
that what it recieves from the router is simply a timeout.


- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: !H !H !H!H


At 03:25 PM 11/20/00, Chris Larson wrote:
>Even if this was correct you cannot simply by getting an !h say that this
is
>from an access-list. There are many reasons for a host unreachable message.
>
>Also, from most workstations (Windows that is), you will simply get a
>timeout and neither !A or !h from packets being denied by an access-list.

Sending a Destination Unreachable is the job of the Router, not the
workstation. Whether it sends an A, H, or nothing depends on the
implementation of ICMP that it is running.

Priscilla



>- Original Message -
>From: "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Jennifer Cribbs'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cisco"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 2:23 PM
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states
that
>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is
blocking
>traffic."
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>On the traceroute command:
>
>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>the
>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>taken
>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>the
>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe
will
>
>be displayed if successful.
>
>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>An * is a timeout.
>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>command,
>and not a ping.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> >= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
> >I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
> >
> >
> >This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
> >prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
> >
> >and that is correct.
> >
> >Jennifer Cribbs
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
> >>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
> >>
> >>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
> >>stations and map it out.
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
> >>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
> >>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
> >>Subject: RE: !H
> >>
> >>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
> >>destination
> >>HOST??
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
> >>To: Jason yee
> >>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: !H
> >>
> >>
> >>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
> >>
> >>Jason yee wrote:
> >>
> >>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
> >>> traceroute results
> >>>
> >>> __
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RE: !H not a complete answer

2000-11-20 Thread Yee, Jason

thanks 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Donald B Johnson Jr
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:03 AM
To: Jennifer Cribbs; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: !H not a complete answer


wouldn't that be an A response
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer


This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.

and that is correct.

Jennifer Cribbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>
>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>stations and map it out.
>
>Jim
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>Subject: RE: !H
>
>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>destination
>HOST??
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>To: Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: !H
>
>
>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>
>Jason yee wrote:
>
>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>> traceroute results
>>
>> __
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Re: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Mask Of Zorro

Oh Sure! Just go ahead and site actual data! Sheesh! What is the world 
coming to when people do their own sniffer traces and debugs and such 
instead of simply trusting the manuals... [=`)

Thanks Marty! This is the kind of experimenting that we list members need to 
do more often!

Z


>From: Marty Adkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Marty Adkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: !H
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:29:59 -0500
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > H means host unreachable. Jumping to the conclusion that there's a 
>routing
> > problem isn't logical (though I know that what's the Tech Note document
> > says.) The host could be turned off. A host unreachable happens when the
> > last-hop router tries to ARP for the device and doesn't get a response.
> >
>This isn't what I've seen and captured with a protocol analyzer, nor
>viewed via debug.  If any router is missing an ARP entry (or any other
>type of next-hop data link address), it will silently drop the packet.
>The output of "debug ip packet" will report "encapsulation failed".
>
>OTOH, if any router in the chain lacks a route to the destination, that
>router will generate an ICMP _host_ unreachable, not network unreachable.
>I agree this is not intuitive, but here's the screen output from a
>WinThing attempting to ping a bogus address, and the debug output from
>its default gateway:
>
>C:\WINDOWS>ping 10.0.0.1
>
>Pinging 10.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
>
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>
>Ping statistics for 10.0.0.1:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Average =  0ms
>--
>06:47:58: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>06:47:59: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>06:48:00: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>06:48:01: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>
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Re: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Hi Marty,

You would think the router would use Net Unreachable if it had no route, 
rather than Host Unreachable. But I did some testing and got the same 
results as you. It sends Host Unreachable. I couldn't get it to send Net 
Unreachable, but I didn't do extensive testing.

The RFC says that if the router determines it can't reach a host it can 
send Host Unreachable. I guess if it doesn't have a route, it's smart 
enough to know it can't reach the host. The RFC says this:

"If, according to the information in the gateway's routing tables, the 
network specified in the internet destination field of a datagram is 
unreachable, for example, the distance to the network is infinity, the 
gateway may send a destination unreachable message to the internet source 
host of the datagram. In addition, in some networks, the gateway may be 
able to determine if the internet destination host is unreachable. Gateways 
in these networks may send destination unreachable messages to the source 
host when the destination host is unreachable."

Thanks for the update. We now have one more piece to the puzzle.

Priscilla


At 05:29 PM 11/20/00, Marty Adkins wrote:
>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > H means host unreachable. Jumping to the conclusion that there's a routing
> > problem isn't logical (though I know that what's the Tech Note document
> > says.) The host could be turned off. A host unreachable happens when the
> > last-hop router tries to ARP for the device and doesn't get a response.
> >
>This isn't what I've seen and captured with a protocol analyzer, nor
>viewed via debug.  If any router is missing an ARP entry (or any other
>type of next-hop data link address), it will silently drop the packet.
>The output of "debug ip packet" will report "encapsulation failed".
>
>OTOH, if any router in the chain lacks a route to the destination, that
>router will generate an ICMP _host_ unreachable, not network unreachable.
>I agree this is not intuitive, but here's the screen output from a
>WinThing attempting to ping a bogus address, and the debug output from
>its default gateway:
>
>C:\WINDOWS>ping 10.0.0.1
>
>Pinging 10.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
>
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
>
>Ping statistics for 10.0.0.1:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Average =  0ms
>--
>06:47:58: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>06:47:59: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>06:48:00: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>06:48:01: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
>
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Re: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

jennifer
the reason people are jumping on this is because you stated something and
then on a line under it you said
and that is it  or something to that effect.
have you tried it out in the lab environment, that would be the answer not
what is in a book, which are flawed.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Rossetti, Stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; cisco
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H


This is where I am getting my info..

Ref:  chapter 8 of Intro to Cisco Router Configuration
pages 229-230

It says responses to trace command include:
!H   The probe was rceived by the router, but not forwarded, usually due to
an
access list.
PThe protocol was unreachable
NThe network was unreachable
UThe port was unreachable
*Timout

Jennifer Cribbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states
that
>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is
blocking
>traffic."
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>On the traceroute command:
>
>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>the
>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>taken
>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>the
>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe
will
>
>be displayed if successful.
>
>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>An * is a timeout.
>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>command,
>and not a ping.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>>
>>
>>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>>
>>and that is correct.
>>
>>Jennifer Cribbs
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>>
>>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>>stations and map it out.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>>Subject: RE: !H
>>>
>>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>>destination
>>>HOST??
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>>To: Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: !H
>>>
>>>
>>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>>
>>>Jason yee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
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Re: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Marty Adkins

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> H means host unreachable. Jumping to the conclusion that there's a routing
> problem isn't logical (though I know that what's the Tech Note document
> says.) The host could be turned off. A host unreachable happens when the
> last-hop router tries to ARP for the device and doesn't get a response.
> 
This isn't what I've seen and captured with a protocol analyzer, nor
viewed via debug.  If any router is missing an ARP entry (or any other
type of next-hop data link address), it will silently drop the packet.
The output of "debug ip packet" will report "encapsulation failed".

OTOH, if any router in the chain lacks a route to the destination, that
router will generate an ICMP _host_ unreachable, not network unreachable.
I agree this is not intuitive, but here's the screen output from a
WinThing attempting to ping a bogus address, and the debug output from
its default gateway:

C:\WINDOWS>ping 10.0.0.1

Pinging 10.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.1.63.196: Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 10.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Average =  0ms
--
06:47:58: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
06:47:59: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
06:48:00: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198
06:48:01: ICMP: dst (10.0.0.1) host unreachable sent to 192.1.63.198

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Re: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 03:25 PM 11/20/00, Chris Larson wrote:
>Even if this was correct you cannot simply by getting an !h say that this is
>from an access-list. There are many reasons for a host unreachable message.
>
>Also, from most workstations (Windows that is), you will simply get a
>timeout and neither !A or !h from packets being denied by an access-list.

Sending a Destination Unreachable is the job of the Router, not the 
workstation. Whether it sends an A, H, or nothing depends on the 
implementation of ICMP that it is running.

Priscilla



>- Original Message -
>From: "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Jennifer Cribbs'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cisco"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 2:23 PM
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states that
>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is blocking
>traffic."
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>On the traceroute command:
>
>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>the
>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>taken
>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>the
>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe will
>
>be displayed if successful.
>
>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>An * is a timeout.
>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>command,
>and not a ping.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> >= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
> >I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
> >
> >
> >This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
> >prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
> >
> >and that is correct.
> >
> >Jennifer Cribbs
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
> >>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
> >>
> >>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
> >>stations and map it out.
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-
> >>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
> >>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
> >>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
> >>Subject: RE: !H
> >>
> >>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
> >>destination
> >>HOST??
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
> >>To: Jason yee
> >>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: !H
> >>
> >>
> >>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
> >>
> >>Jason yee wrote:
> >>
> >>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
> >>> traceroute results
> >>>
> >>> __
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> >>> Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays!
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RE: !H !H !H!H I GOT IT!! THANKS ALL!

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

You are correct!!  And I have got tons of e-mail regarding this.  I stand 
humbled before everyone.  And I do understand.  I was just telling my husband 
about this and he laughed.  He is used to me thinking I am always correct.

The good thing about this, is that I have learned about !A and !H and I want 
to thank everyone.  The real world is different and you wait guys...I will be 
there one day.

Jennifer Cribbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>= Original Message From "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
=
>jennifer
>the reason people are jumping on this is because you stated something and
>then on a line under it you said
>and that is it  or something to that effect.
>have you tried it out in the lab environment, that would be the answer not
>what is in a book, which are flawed.
>Duck
>- Original Message -
>From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Rossetti, Stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; cisco
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:45 AM
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>This is where I am getting my info..
>
>Ref:  chapter 8 of Intro to Cisco Router Configuration
>pages 229-230
>
>It says responses to trace command include:
>!H   The probe was rceived by the router, but not forwarded, usually due to
>an
>access list.
>PThe protocol was unreachable
>NThe network was unreachable
>UThe port was unreachable
>*Timout
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states
>that
>>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is
>blocking
>>traffic."
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>>
>>
>>On the traceroute command:
>>
>>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>>the
>>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>>taken
>>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>>the
>>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe
>will
>>
>>be displayed if successful.
>>
>>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>>An * is a timeout.
>>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>>command,
>>and not a ping.
>>
>>Jennifer Cribbs
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>=
>>>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>>>
>>>
>>>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>>>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>>>
>>>and that is correct.
>>>
>>>Jennifer Cribbs
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>>
>>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>>stations and map it out.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>>Subject: RE: !H
>>>
>>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>>destination
>>>HOST??
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>>To: Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: !H
>>>
>>>
>>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>>
>>>Jason yee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
&g

RE: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

I found a ref regarding !A a few minutes ago.  It is nearly exactly the same 
as what I had thought about the !H.  Is one a misprint maybe, and if not, why 
do they have two of them, and what is the purpose of two returns that could be 
the same thing?

The only souce I can find on this is on the cisco command ref on-line under 
troubleshooting commands.  It states that !A is returned when a network is 
administratively unreachable due to an access list.  I found that a few 
minutes ago and Donald I forwarded that to you.

However, it implies in my router book the exact same thing regarding !H.  What 
it actually says there, (cisco press) is that the probe is received but not 
forwarded due to an access list, where !H is received.

What is the difference between the two?

Jennifer Cribbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>= Original Message From "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
=
>jennifer when does a trace rt return an A
>Duck
>- Original Message -
>From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:13 AM
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>On the traceroute command:
>
>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>the
>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>taken
>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>the
>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe will
>be displayed if successful.
>
>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>An * is a timeout.
>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>command,
>and not a ping.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>>
>>
>>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>>
>>and that is correct.
>>
>>Jennifer Cribbs
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>>
>>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>>stations and map it out.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>>Subject: RE: !H
>>>
>>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>>destination
>>>HOST??
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>>To: Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: !H
>>>
>>>
>>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>>
>>>Jason yee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
>>> __
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>>> Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays!
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RE: !H not a complete answer found it, but confused........help chuck!!

2000-11-20 Thread Glenn Johnson

This may sound silly, but has anyone just tried to run the various scenarios
(tracing/pinging w/host physically off, access list applied, etc.) in a
simple lab with various versions of the IOS in an attempt to discern a
consistent pattern? or we can go get in line at the Fla Sup Ct :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jennifer Cribbs
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:52 PM
To: Rossetti, Stan; cisco
Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer found it, but confusedhelp
chuck!!


First of all, this is very confusing.  I have in front of me right now two
very different resouces regarding !A and !H.  The first is the one I sent
and
what I learned in school and is the correct answer on exams that I have
taken.
 That was the ref I sent to 'intro to cisco router configuration' that i
sent
earlier from pages 230, chapter 9, where it states !H means blocked acces to
host due to access list.

Now, the rest i this is a printing of what i got from cisco command ref
on-line and it says exactly what you told me, which was the !A meant a
problem
with an access list that was adminstratively unreachable.

What is really strange about this, it that these two conflicting statements,
one saying !H is a reject due to access lists and the other !A means
rejected
due to access lists are both ciso ref's.  My book is cisco press.  So what's
up with that

Did someone goof and maybe a type-o, or are they both correct?

As I sit and comptemplate this, the reading in the cisco book, says
!H is sent when the PROBE IS RECEIVED but blocked due to an access list.

and on line-
!A is sent when administratively unreachable due to an access list.
!H is sent when host is unreachable.

Are these two things the same and one, which I doubt, and if that is the
case,
what is the differences between the two.

I would really like to know and need some imput.  Chuck

The rest of this I did not write: I copied it from on-line under cisco
command
ref troubleshooting commands under traceroute.
=

Table 118: IP Trace Text Characters  Char  Description
nn msec
 For each node, the round-trip time in milliseconds for the specified number
of probes.

*
 The probe timed out.

?
 Unknown packet type.

A
 Administratively unreachable. Usually, this output indicates that an access
list is blocking traffic.

H
 Host unreachable.

N
 Network unreachable.

P
 Protocol unreachable.

Q
 Source quench.

U
 Port unreachable.
==

Thanks,
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Re: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

jennifer when does a trace rt return an A
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Jennifer Cribbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H


On the traceroute command:

!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
the
packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
taken
to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
the
destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe will
be displayed if successful.

The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
An * is a timeout.
!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
command,
and not a ping.

Jennifer Cribbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>
>
>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>
>and that is correct.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>
>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>stations and map it out.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>Subject: RE: !H
>>
>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>destination
>>HOST??
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>To: Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: !H
>>
>>
>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>
>>Jason yee wrote:
>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
>>> __
>>> Do You Yahoo!?
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RE: !H not a complete answer found it, but confused........help chuck!!

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

First of all, this is very confusing.  I have in front of me right now two 
very different resouces regarding !A and !H.  The first is the one I sent and 
what I learned in school and is the correct answer on exams that I have taken.
 That was the ref I sent to 'intro to cisco router configuration' that i sent 
earlier from pages 230, chapter 9, where it states !H means blocked acces to 
host due to access list.

Now, the rest i this is a printing of what i got from cisco command ref 
on-line and it says exactly what you told me, which was the !A meant a problem 
with an access list that was adminstratively unreachable.

What is really strange about this, it that these two conflicting statements, 
one saying !H is a reject due to access lists and the other !A means rejected 
due to access lists are both ciso ref's.  My book is cisco press.  So what's 
up with that

Did someone goof and maybe a type-o, or are they both correct?

As I sit and comptemplate this, the reading in the cisco book, says
!H is sent when the PROBE IS RECEIVED but blocked due to an access list.

and on line-
!A is sent when administratively unreachable due to an access list.
!H is sent when host is unreachable.

Are these two things the same and one, which I doubt, and if that is the case, 
what is the differences between the two.

I would really like to know and need some imput.  Chuck

The rest of this I did not write: I copied it from on-line under cisco command 
ref troubleshooting commands under traceroute.
=

Table 118: IP Trace Text Characters  Char  Description  
nn msec
 For each node, the round-trip time in milliseconds for the specified number 
of probes.
 
*
 The probe timed out.
 
?
 Unknown packet type.
 
A
 Administratively unreachable. Usually, this output indicates that an access 
list is blocking traffic.
 
H
 Host unreachable.
 
N
 Network unreachable.
 
P
 Protocol unreachable.
 
Q
 Source quench.
 
U
 Port unreachable.
==

Thanks,
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Re: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Chris Larson

Even if this was correct you cannot simply by getting an !h say that this is
from an access-list. There are many reasons for a host unreachable message.

Also, from most workstations (Windows that is), you will simply get a
timeout and neither !A or !h from packets being denied by an access-list.


- Original Message -
From: "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jennifer Cribbs'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cisco"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H


Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states that
the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is blocking
traffic."

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H


On the traceroute command:

!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
the
packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
taken
to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
the
destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe will

be displayed if successful.

The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
An * is a timeout.
!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
command,
and not a ping.

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>
>
>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>
>and that is correct.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>
>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>stations and map it out.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>Subject: RE: !H
>>
>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>destination
>>HOST??
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>To: Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: !H
>>
>>
>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>
>>Jason yee wrote:
>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
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RE: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread JL

!H simply means that the host is unreachable. Whether this is because of an
access list or that the host is disconnected or turned off is left to the
imagination of the person receiving  the !H notification. Odds are that
unless you have physical access to the host in question you will not ever
learn why the host was unreachable.

Gragg Vaill
NOS Contractor
Sprint ION NOC
Kansas City, Ks.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jennifer Cribbs
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:46 PM
To: Rossetti, Stan; cisco
Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H


This is where I am getting my info..

Ref:  chapter 8 of Intro to Cisco Router Configuration
pages 229-230

It says responses to trace command include:
!H   The probe was rceived by the router, but not forwarded, usually due to
an
access list.
PThe protocol was unreachable
NThe network was unreachable
UThe port was unreachable
*Timout

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states
that
>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is
blocking
>traffic."
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>On the traceroute command:
>
>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>the
>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>taken
>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>the
>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe
will
>
>be displayed if successful.
>
>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>An * is a timeout.
>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>command,
>and not a ping.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>>
>>
>>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>>
>>and that is correct.
>>
>>Jennifer Cribbs
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>>
>>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>>stations and map it out.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>>Subject: RE: !H
>>>
>>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>>destination
>>>HOST??
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>>To: Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: !H
>>>
>>>
>>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>>
>>>Jason yee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
>>> __
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RE: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Here are some of the error codes you may see when pinging or doing a 
traceroute:

*---The probe timed out
?---Unknown packet type
A---Administratively blocked (i.e. access list)
Q---Source quench
P---Protocol unreachable
N---Network unreachable
U---Port unreachable
H---Host unreachable

H means host unreachable. Jumping to the conclusion that there's a routing 
problem isn't logical (though I know that what's the Tech Note document 
says.) The host could be turned off. A host unreachable happens when the 
last-hop router tries to ARP for the device and doesn't get a response.

They really watered down the Internetworking Troubleshooting Guide in that 
Tech Note. I recommend reading the real one here:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1907.htm

Priscilla

At 12:01 PM 11/20/00, Croyle, James wrote:
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>
>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>stations and map it out.
>
>Jim
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>Subject: RE: !H
>
>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>destination
>HOST??
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>To: Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: !H
>
>
>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>
>Jason yee wrote:
>
> > hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
> > traceroute results
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays!
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Re: !H not a complete answer

2000-11-20 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

wouldn't that be an A response
Duck
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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer


This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.

and that is correct.

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>
>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>stations and map it out.
>
>Jim
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>Subject: RE: !H
>
>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>destination
>HOST??
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>To: Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: !H
>
>
>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>
>Jason yee wrote:
>
>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>> traceroute results
>>
>> __
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays!
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RE: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

This is where I am getting my info..

Ref:  chapter 8 of Intro to Cisco Router Configuration  
pages 229-230

It says responses to trace command include:
!H   The probe was rceived by the router, but not forwarded, usually due to an 
access list.
PThe protocol was unreachable
NThe network was unreachable
UThe port was unreachable
*Timout

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
=
>Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states that
>the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
>Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is blocking
>traffic."
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>To: cisco; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H
>
>
>On the traceroute command:
>
>!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
>the
>packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
>taken
>to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
>the
>destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe will
>
>be displayed if successful.
>
>The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
>The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
>An * is a timeout.
>!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute
>command,
>and not a ping.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>=
>>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>>
>>
>>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>>
>>and that is correct.
>>
>>Jennifer Cribbs
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>>
>>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>>stations and map it out.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>>Subject: RE: !H
>>>
>>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>>destination
>>>HOST??
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>>To: Jason yee
>>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: !H
>>>
>>>
>>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>>
>>>Jason yee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
>>> __
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RE: !H not a complete answer

2000-11-20 Thread Rossetti, Stan

I have always seen the !H replies when there is not a route to the
destination and when there is an access-list blocking the router then the
reply is !A using traceroute.

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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:57 PM
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Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer


I thought the original question was in regard to traceroute results and not 
ping.  Look at the original question at the bottom of this page.

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>= Original Message From "Phillip Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>From cisco:
>
>"If the router receives a datagram which it is unable to deliver to it's
>ultimate destination because it knows of no route to the destination
>address, it replies to the originator of that datagram with an ICMP Host
>Unreachable message."
>
>An access-list denying icmp echo-requests will simply not permit the
>forwarding of icmp echo-requests. From the use of ping, this would be
>observed as timeouts rather than "Host Unreachable" or "!H".
>
>--phil
>
>|  -Original Message-
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>|  Jennifer Cribbs
>|  Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|  Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>|
>|
>|  This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>|  prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>|
>|  and that is correct.
>|
>|  Jennifer Cribbs
>|  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>|
>|  >= Original Message From "Croyle, James"
>|  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>|  >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>|  >
>|  >I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from
several
>|  >stations and map it out.
>|  >
>|  >Jim
>|  >
>|  >
>|  >-Original Message-
>|  >From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>|  >To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>|  >Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|  >Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>|  >Subject: RE: !H
>|  >
>|  >Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>|  >destination
>|  >HOST??
>|  >
>|  >-Original Message-
>|  >From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>|  >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>|  >To: Jason yee
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>|  >Subject: Re: !H
>|  >
>|  >
>|  >destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>|  >
>|  >Jason yee wrote:
>|  >
>|  >> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>|  >> traceroute results
>|  >>
>|  >> __
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RE: !H not a complete answer

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

I thought the original question was in regard to traceroute results and not 
ping.  Look at the original question at the bottom of this page.

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>= Original Message From "Phillip Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>From cisco:
>
>"If the router receives a datagram which it is unable to deliver to it's
>ultimate destination because it knows of no route to the destination
>address, it replies to the originator of that datagram with an ICMP Host
>Unreachable message."
>
>An access-list denying icmp echo-requests will simply not permit the
>forwarding of icmp echo-requests. From the use of ping, this would be
>observed as timeouts rather than "Host Unreachable" or "!H".
>
>--phil
>
>|  -Original Message-
>|  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>|  Jennifer Cribbs
>|  Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
>|  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|  Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>|
>|
>|  This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>|  prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>|
>|  and that is correct.
>|
>|  Jennifer Cribbs
>|  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>|
>|  >= Original Message From "Croyle, James"
>|  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>|  >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>|  >
>|  >I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>|  >stations and map it out.
>|  >
>|  >Jim
>|  >
>|  >
>|  >-Original Message-
>|  >From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>|  >To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>|  >Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|  >Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>|  >Subject: RE: !H
>|  >
>|  >Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>|  >destination
>|  >HOST??
>|  >
>|  >-Original Message-
>|  >From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>|  >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>|  >To: Jason yee
>|  >Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|  >Subject: Re: !H
>|  >
>|  >
>|  >destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>|  >
>|  >Jason yee wrote:
>|  >
>|  >> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>|  >> traceroute results
>|  >>
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RE: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Rossetti, Stan

Are you sure?  Page 1163 of Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals states that
the character A signifies that the destination is "Administratively
Unreachable.  Usually, this output indicates that an access list is blocking
traffic."

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:13 PM
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Subject: RE: !H !H !H!H


On the traceroute command:

!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding
the 
packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route
taken 
to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward
the 
destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe will

be displayed if successful.

The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
An * is a timeout.
!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute 
command,
and not a ping.

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
=
>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>
>
>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>
>and that is correct.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
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>
>
>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>
>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>stations and map it out.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>Subject: RE: !H
>>
>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>destination
>>HOST??
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>To: Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: !H
>>
>>
>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>
>>Jason yee wrote:
>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
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RE: !H !H !H!H

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

On the traceroute command:

!H is returned 3 times if an access list prevents a router from forwarding the 
packet to the HOST.  The 'trace' command is used to  determine the route taken 
to a remote host.  All the hops are shown as the trace probe moves toward the 
destination.  Three probes are issued.  The response time of each probe will 
be displayed if successful.

The trace command returns a N if the network is unreachable.
The P is the response if the protocol is unreachable.
An * is a timeout.
!H is the return for what I said above but it is regarding a traceroute 
command,
and not a ping.

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Rossetti, Stan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
=
>I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer
>
>
>This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path
>prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
>
>and that is correct.
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>>
>>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>>stations and map it out.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>>Subject: RE: !H
>>
>>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>>destination
>>HOST??
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>>To: Jason yee
>>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: !H
>>
>>
>>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>>
>>Jason yee wrote:
>>
>>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>>> traceroute results
>>>
>>> __
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RE: !H not a complete answer

2000-11-20 Thread Rossetti, Stan

I thought !A meant this path is blocked by an access list.

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: !H not a complete answer


This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path 
prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.

and that is correct.

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>
>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>stations and map it out.
>
>Jim
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>Subject: RE: !H
>
>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>destination
>HOST??
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>To: Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: !H
>
>
>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>
>Jason yee wrote:
>
>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>> traceroute results
>>
>> __
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Re: !H not a complete answer

2000-11-20 Thread Phillip Heller

  From cisco:

  "If the router receives a datagram which it is unable to deliver
  to it's ultimate destination because it knows of no route to the
  destination address, it replies to the originator of that
  datagram with an ICMP Host Unreachable message."

  An access-list denying icmp echo-requests will simply not permit
  the forwarding of icmp echo-requests. From the use of ping, this
  would be observed as timeouts rather than "Host Unreachable" or "!H".

  --phil

  |  -Original Message-
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  |
  |
  |  This response is returned when an access list somewhere along  the path
  |  prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.
  |
  |  and that is correct.
  |
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RE: !H not a complete answer

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

This response is returned when an access list somewhere along the path 
prevents a router from forwarding a packet to the HOST.

and that is correct.

Jennifer Cribbs
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>= Original Message From "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>
>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>stations and map it out.
>
>Jim
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>Subject: RE: !H
>
>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>destination
>HOST??
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>To: Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: !H
>
>
>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>
>Jason yee wrote:
>
>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>> traceroute results
>>
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RE: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

It means the destination network is unreachable due to an access list on a 
router somewhere along the way.

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>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
>
>I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
>stations and map it out.
>
>Jim
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
>To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
>Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
>Subject: RE: !H
>
>Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
>destination
>HOST??
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
>To: Jason yee
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>Subject: Re: !H
>
>
>destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
>
>Jason yee wrote:
>
>> hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
>> traceroute results
>>
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RE: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Andy Walden

 
 A routing loop will generally bounce back and forth between two
 interfaces when you do a traceroute. Host unreachable just means the box
 is down and a route still remains for it. 
 
 andy
 
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Croyle, James wrote:
> 
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm
> > 
> > I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
> > stations and map it out.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
> > To: Richard Bosire; Jason yee
> > Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 11/20/00 11:15 AM
> > Subject: RE: !H
> > 
> > Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
> > destination
> > HOST?? 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Richard Bosire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:01 AM
> > To: Jason yee
> > Cc: John Huston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: !H
> > 
> > 
> > destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network
> > 
> > Jason yee wrote:
> > 
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RE: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Timothy Metz

That sounds like a Boson question, as a matter of fact, I remember getting
it wrong by saying destination network unreachable, and not destination host
unreachable. I never did check to see what the Cisco answer was

Tim

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RE: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Croyle, James

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter7.htm

I think you have a routing loop as is described here.  Ping from several
stations and map it out.

Jim


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Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the
destination
HOST?? 

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destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network

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Re: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Gabriel Nickel

A !H indicates that the router at that hop doesn't know anything about the target 
address; the packet comes back to the source with
a message saying "No Forwarding Address".

gabriel

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RE: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Miller, Nathan (AZ15)

Does it meas that the destination NETWORK is unreachable or the destination
HOST?? 

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Re: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Richard Bosire

destination unreachable i.e not path to the destination network

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Re: !H

2000-11-20 Thread Phillip Heller

Host unreachable.


--phil

On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Jason yee wrote:

hi anyone knows what does the symbol !H means in
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Re: H.323 prioritization

2000-06-14 Thread Javier Contreras

Hi
You should use "ip rtp priority" plus WFQ or CBQWFP or "ip rtp reserve"
Custom queueing is not the best solution for voice, because you need strict
priority for voice.
In both cases I would recomend to use L2 fragmentation if your interface
is below 1 Mbits (FRF.12 or ppp interleaving)
The ports are usually above 16384.
Example (i skip irrelevant info, this reserve 48 kbps and 20 udp voice ports ):
in s0
 encapsulation ppp
ppp multilink

multilink virtual template 1
in lo0
  ip address 

int virtual-template 1
 ip unnumbered lo0
ip rtp reserve 16384 20 48
ppp multilink
ppp multilink fragment-delay 15
ppp multilink interleave

"Arigo, Francis" escribió:

> Has anyone used custom prioritization and queuing to prioritize H.323
> traffic over other data traffic? If so, I'd be very interested in seeing
> some working configurations.
>
> The problem that I'm having is narrowing the field of ports to prioritize.
> Prioritizing the initial TCP handshake is straightforward, but once it makes
> the connection it uses a dynamic UDP high port . Do you prioritize all high
> port UDP traffic?
>
> The devices that create the H.323 traffic are two voice PBXs(com2001) that
> have VoIP capabilities via the H.323 standard. They are connected by a T1
> using 2501s to route IP.
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> Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> Francis Arigo, MCSE, CCNA
> System Administrator
> Classroom Connect
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RE: H.323 prioritization

2000-06-13 Thread Albert

I see that the VoIP uses NT as the OS.  How much none VoIP traffic do you
expect from that box?  If it is not alot, you can use the source IP address
for QoS setup.  Can you call com2001 to ask how the port number is
calculated?  I say throw it away and use Cisco gear.

Albert

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Has anyone used custom prioritization and queuing to prioritize H.323
traffic over other data traffic? If so, I'd be very interested in seeing
some working configurations.

The problem that I'm having is narrowing the field of ports to prioritize.
Prioritizing the initial TCP handshake is straightforward, but once it makes
the connection it uses a dynamic UDP high port . Do you prioritize all high
port UDP traffic?

The devices that create the H.323 traffic are two voice PBXs(com2001) that
have VoIP capabilities via the H.323 standard. They are connected by a T1
using 2501s to route IP.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Francis Arigo, MCSE, CCNA
System Administrator
Classroom Connect


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