RE: IOS version [7:71225]

2003-06-24 Thread milind tare
Hi jon,


Thanks for reply. I can show this link to my boss.

Thanks & Warms Regards,
Milind Tare

--- Jonathan V Hays  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It looks like the IOS has given you the answer:
> "Command rejected: One
> or more ports is already configured as a trunk
> port."
> 
> And the documentation confirms that you cannot
> configure multi-VLAN and
> trunk ports on the same 2900XL/3500XL switch. See:
> 
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/29_35wc6/scg
> /swvlan.htm#xtocid42
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jonathan Hays
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: milind tare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:18 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: IOS version [7:71225]
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Jhays,
> > 
> > IT-3548-2#conf t
> > Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End
> with
> > CNTL/Z.
> > IT-3548-2(config)#int fa0/22
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#swi
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mu
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mod
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mode mu
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mode multi ?
> >   
> > 
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mode multi
> > Command rejected: One or more ports is already
> > configured as a trunk port.
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#swit
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mu
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport multi vl
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport multi vlan add
> > IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport multi vlan add 2,4
>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > i hv tried like this but still it is not working. 
> > and my IOS version 
> > 
> > > IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M),
> > > Version
> > > > 12.0(5)WC3b, RELEASE SOFTWA
> > > > RE (fc1)  
>
> > >
> > 
> > so pls give me suggestion.
> > 
> > Thanks & warm Regards,
> > Milind Tare
> >
> > --- Jonathan V Hays  wrote:
> > > milind tare wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Dear All,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  I have 3500 series switches in my
> network. i
> > > want
> > > > to configure multiple vlan for some ports.
> right
> > > now i
> > > > am using following IOS
> > > > 
> > > > IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M),
> > > Version
> > > > 12.0(5)WC3b, RELEASE SOFTWA
> > > > RE (fc1)  
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > i tried the command switchport multi vl
> but it
> > > is
> > > > not working in that. 
> > > > 
> > > >  so pleas give me suggestion. shall upgrade
> the
> > > IOS.?
> > > > 
> > > > i hv 3512,3524,3548 switches in my network
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > > Milind Tare 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Please post a snapshot of your terminal session.
> > > 
> > > Are you in interface mode when you enter the
> > > command?
> > > 
> > > Switch(config)# int fa0/1
> > > Switch(config-if)# switchport multi vlan 2,4
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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RE: IOS version [7:71225]

2003-06-24 Thread Jonathan V Hays
Hi,

It looks like the IOS has given you the answer: "Command rejected: One
or more ports is already configured as a trunk port."

And the documentation confirms that you cannot configure multi-VLAN and
trunk ports on the same 2900XL/3500XL switch. See:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/29_35wc6/scg
/swvlan.htm#xtocid42

Regards,

Jonathan Hays


> -Original Message-
> From: milind tare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: IOS version [7:71225]
> 
> 
> Hi Jhays,
> 
> IT-3548-2#conf t
> Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with
> CNTL/Z.
> IT-3548-2(config)#int fa0/22
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#swi
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mu
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mod
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mode mu
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mode multi ?
>   
> 
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mode multi
> Command rejected: One or more ports is already
> configured as a trunk port.
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#swit
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport mu
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport multi vl
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport multi vlan add
> IT-3548-2(config-if)#switchport multi vlan add 2,4
> 
> 
> 
> i hv tried like this but still it is not working. 
> and my IOS version 
> 
> > IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M),
> > Version
> > > 12.0(5)WC3b, RELEASE SOFTWA
> > > RE (fc1)  
> >
> 
> so pls give me suggestion.
> 
> Thanks & warm Regards,
> Milind Tare
>
> --- Jonathan V Hays  wrote:
> > milind tare wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear All,
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  I have 3500 series switches in my network. i
> > want
> > > to configure multiple vlan for some ports. right
> > now i
> > > am using following IOS
> > > 
> > > IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M),
> > Version
> > > 12.0(5)WC3b, RELEASE SOFTWA
> > > RE (fc1)  
> >
> > >
> > > i tried the command switchport multi vl but it
> > is
> > > not working in that. 
> > > 
> > >  so pleas give me suggestion. shall upgrade the
> > IOS.?
> > > 
> > > i hv 3512,3524,3548 switches in my network
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > Milind Tare 
> > > 
> > 
> > Please post a snapshot of your terminal session.
> > 
> > Are you in interface mode when you enter the
> > command?
> > 
> > Switch(config)# int fa0/1
> > Switch(config-if)# switchport multi vlan 2,4
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: IOS version [7:71225]

2003-06-24 Thread Jonathan V Hays
milind tare wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> 
>  I have 3500 series switches in my network. i want
> to configure multiple vlan for some ports. right now i
> am using following IOS
> 
> IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M), Version
> 12.0(5)WC3b, RELEASE SOFTWA
> RE (fc1)  
>
> i tried the command switchport multi vl but it is
> not working in that. 
> 
>  so pleas give me suggestion. shall upgrade the IOS.?
> 
> i hv 3512,3524,3548 switches in my network
> 
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> Milind Tare 
> 

Please post a snapshot of your terminal session.

Are you in interface mode when you enter the command?

Switch(config)# int fa0/1
Switch(config-if)# switchport multi vlan 2,4




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Re: IOS version [7:71225]

2003-06-24 Thread milind tare
hi macro,


 Thanks for ur reply, i tried that options also
but it is not working error mesg is coming " command
is Rejected".

Thanks & regards,
milind Tare
--- "M.C. van den Bovenkamp"
 wrote:
> milind tare wrote:
> 
> > IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M),
> Version
> > 12.0(5)WC3b, RELEASE SOFTWA
> > RE (fc1)  
>
> >
> > i tried the command switchport multi vl but it
> is
> > not working in that. 
> 
> No? It ought to.
> 
> You started with 'switchport mode multi' and only
> after that 'switchport 
> multi vlan add (vlan #)'?
> 
> >  so pleas give me suggestion. shall upgrade the
> IOS.?
> 
> No need; it should work in the version you're
> running.
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   Marco.
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Re: IOS version [7:71225]

2003-06-24 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp
milind tare wrote:

> IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M), Version
> 12.0(5)WC3b, RELEASE SOFTWA
> RE (fc1)  
>
> i tried the command switchport multi vl but it is
> not working in that. 

No? It ought to.

You started with 'switchport mode multi' and only after that 'switchport 
multi vlan add (vlan #)'?

>  so pleas give me suggestion. shall upgrade the IOS.?

No need; it should work in the version you're running.

Regards,

Marco.




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RE: IOS version question [7:62108]

2003-01-29 Thread Robert Perez
Look here.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/roadmap.shtml

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on the 1700 routers,
Which is the latest version of these two:
12.2.13 OR 12.2(4)YA2

thank you




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RE: ios version for 3102? [7:30199]

2001-12-29 Thread Circusnuts

As far as boot from FLASH and run from RAM versions, the best I could
get without hanging during reload was 12.0(8) on the 3104s and 3204s.
The 3102s for some reason had no problems with 12.0(9).  I have since
replaced all my 3000's, so I cannot speak about 12.1 or 12.2.  Don't
forget the MZMaker utility.  It allows you to compress IOS that is run
from RAM.  Most of the new 12.1 & 12.2 share RAM and FLASH resources in
the 2500 series line-up.  Unlike the 2500s, the 3000's are limited to 8
FLASH and 16 RAM.

All the best !!!
Phil

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They run 12.x.  You can netboot the box too.


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> on a 3102 router.
>
> Are these y2k compliant? doesnt really matter if not
> it's only to play with.
>
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>
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>
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Re: ios version for 3102? [7:30199]

2001-12-29 Thread AMR

They run 12.x.  You can netboot the box too.


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> Just wondering what is the most recent ios i can run
> on a 3102 router.
>
> Are these y2k compliant? doesnt really matter if not
> it's only to play with.
>
> Cheers
>
> George
>
> =
> George Dodds
>
> CCNA, MCP
>
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RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-22 Thread Shannon Murphy

I recently attended an IP Telephony class at Mentor Technologies and it was
a terrible class.  The instructor (who turned out to be the VP of sales) was
not very knowledgable about the product, although he did have a good deal of
background on CVOICE.  The entire class was very frustrated and I know the
three of us from my company complained to both Cisco and our Mentor rep.
After a few months of going back and forth, we've finally been a free class
to replace the one we took.

Shannon

-Original Message-
From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:06 AM
To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...


No Way Priscilla...

"wr" is all it takes when hammering across the Hyper Term window ;-)  I
agree- that class sounds like a bummer.  With you time in the field, what
have you heard about refunds or complaints in cases such as this ???

Phil

- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...


> Sounds like your instructor didn't know BGP either. What a shame. You
could
> ask for your money back...
>
> BTW, I like "cop run start" much better than "write mem." It's more
> intuitive. Not. &;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 12:39 PM 3/19/01, Buri, Heather H wrote:
> >Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not
know
> >what he was talking about.  I thought 12.1 was still the most recent
version
> >but then again, I have not been on CCO recently upgrading my IOS's
either.
> >And...been too busy the past couple of days trying to get caught up from
> >being gone for a week from work.  I will check it out tonight.  :-)
> >
> >Heather Buri
> >CSC Technology Services - Houston
> >
> >Phone:  (713)-961-8592
> >Fax:(713)-961-8249
> >Mobile:
> >Alpha Page:
> >
> >Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
> >  Suite 500
> >              Houston, TX 77056
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:08 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
> >
> >
> >Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
> >12.2 isn't even out yet.
> >
> > >>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
> >Hi Everyone.
> >
> >Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
> >have
> >to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
> >good
> >time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
> >whole
> >day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
> >class!
> >My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
> >
> >Router Rip
> >
> >Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
> >because too
> >many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
> >
> >Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
> >$2000
> >on the CIT course now.
> >
> >I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
> >Based
> >routing some more.
> >
> >My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
> >was
> >news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
> >has
> >anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
> >away
> >with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
> >it was
> >coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
> >
> >Heather Buri
> >CSC Technology Services - Houston
> >
> >Phone:  (713)-961-8592
> >Fax:(713)-961-8249
> >Mobile:
> >Alpha Page:
> >
> >Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
> >  Suite 500
> >  Houston, TX 77056
>
>
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
>
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Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-20 Thread Pamela Forsyth


Yipe.  I just now noticed this thread, and it breaks my heart to hear
stories like this.

Global Knowledge classes are guaranteed.  I'm not sure Heather could get
her money back inasmuch as she did sit the entire class, but I am certain
they will let her sit the class again with a more experienced instructor.
Hey, I'm teaching BSCN in Arlington, VA for Global Knowledge the week of
April 23 . . . not scheduled for any Texas trips any time soon.

For future reference, Global Knowledge WILL refund your money or
reschedule you if you return your materials to the instructor by the end
of the first day.  Instructors are supposed to emphasize that during the
introductory remarks.

When you schedule the class, talk to the customer service people and ask
them about the instructor.  The best questions to ask are, "how long has
this person been a Cisco-certified instructor," and "how many times has
this person taught this class."  The instructor schedules are published
about a month in advance of the classes.

I hope you won't get a bad impression of all Global Knowledge instructors
because of this one.  I have had the distinct pleasure of auditing BSCN,
CATM and OSPF/BGP classes since joining Global Knowledge, and the
instructors in each case were outstanding in every way, but beyond
outstanding in terms of technical knowledge.  And I'm a tough critic,
believe me.  For example, how about having CATM taught by someone who
participated in the development of the protocols as a member of the ATM
Forum working groups?  Or BGP taught by someone whose consulting practice
focuses on designing networks for national ISPs.  And of course, the
groupstudy.com founder, Paul Borghese, is a Global Knowledge instructor.
;-)

Pamela

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> At 05:05 AM 3/20/01, Circusnuts wrote:
> >No Way Priscilla...
> >
> >"wr" is all it takes when hammering across the Hyper Term window ;-)  I
> >agree- that class sounds like a bummer.  With you time in the field, what
> >have you heard about refunds or complaints in cases such as this ???
>
> I say she should go for it. Most training partners are very concerned with
> customer satisfaction and try their best to offer high-quality classes. My
> guess is that her instructor was new. That happens. (It can be extremely
> difficult to teach a new class, but that's not her problem &;-) If they
> won't give her a refund, they might at least let her attend again for free.
> I realize it can be hard to get away again and possibly spend more travel
> money, but it's better than nothing.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> >Phil
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:47 PM
> >Subject: RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
> >
> >
> > > Sounds like your instructor didn't know BGP either. What a shame. You
> >could
> > > ask for your money back...
> > >
> > > BTW, I like "cop run start" much better than "write mem." It's more
> > > intuitive. Not. &;-)
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 12:39 PM 3/19/01, Buri, Heather H wrote:
> > > >Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not
> >know
> > > >what he was talking about.  I thought 12.1 was still the most recent
> >version
> > > >but then again, I have not been on CCO recently upgrading my IOS's
> >either.
> > > >And...been too busy the past couple of days trying to get caught up from
> > > >being gone for a week from work.  I will check it out tonight.  :-)
> > > >
> > > >Heather Buri
> > > >CSC Technology Services - Houston
> > > >
> > > >Phone:  (713)-961-8592
> > > >Fax:(713)-961-8249
> > > >Mobile:
> > > >Alpha Page:
> > > >
> > > >Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
> > > >  Suite 500
> > > >  Houston, TX 77056
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:08 PM
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
> > > >12.2 isn't even out yet.
> > > >
> > > > >>&g

Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 05:05 AM 3/20/01, Circusnuts wrote:
>No Way Priscilla...
>
>"wr" is all it takes when hammering across the Hyper Term window ;-)  I
>agree- that class sounds like a bummer.  With you time in the field, what
>have you heard about refunds or complaints in cases such as this ???

I say she should go for it. Most training partners are very concerned with 
customer satisfaction and try their best to offer high-quality classes. My 
guess is that her instructor was new. That happens. (It can be extremely 
difficult to teach a new class, but that's not her problem &;-) If they 
won't give her a refund, they might at least let her attend again for free. 
I realize it can be hard to get away again and possibly spend more travel 
money, but it's better than nothing.

Priscilla


>Phil
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:47 PM
>Subject: RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
>
>
> > Sounds like your instructor didn't know BGP either. What a shame. You
>could
> > ask for your money back...
> >
> > BTW, I like "cop run start" much better than "write mem." It's more
> > intuitive. Not. &;-)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 12:39 PM 3/19/01, Buri, Heather H wrote:
> > >Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not
>know
> > >what he was talking about.  I thought 12.1 was still the most recent
>version
> > >but then again, I have not been on CCO recently upgrading my IOS's
>either.
> > >And...been too busy the past couple of days trying to get caught up from
> > >being gone for a week from work.  I will check it out tonight.  :-)
> > >
> > >Heather Buri
> > >CSC Technology Services - Houston
> > >
> > >Phone:  (713)-961-8592
> > >Fax:(713)-961-8249
> > >Mobile:
> > >Alpha Page:
> > >
> > >Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
> > >  Suite 500
> > >  Houston, TX 77056
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:08 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
> > >
> > >
> > >Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
> > >12.2 isn't even out yet.
> > >
> > > >>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
> > >Hi Everyone.
> > >
> > >Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
> > >have
> > >to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
> > >good
> > >time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
> > >whole
> > >day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
> > >class!
> > >My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
> > >
> > >Router Rip
> > >
> > >Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
> > >because too
> > >many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
> > >
> > >Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
> > >$2000
> > >on the CIT course now.
> > >
> > >I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
> > >Based
> > >routing some more.
> > >
> > >My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
> > >was
> > >news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
> > >has
> > >anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
> > >away
> > >with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
> > >it was
> > >coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
> > >
> > >Heather Buri
> > >CSC Technology Services - Houston
> > >
> > >Phone:  (713)-961-8592
> > >Fax:(713)-961-8249
> > >Mobile:
> > >Alpha Page:
> > >
> > >Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
> > >  Suite 500
> > >  Houston, TX 77056
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
> >
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Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-20 Thread Circusnuts

No Way Priscilla...

"wr" is all it takes when hammering across the Hyper Term window ;-)  I
agree- that class sounds like a bummer.  With you time in the field, what
have you heard about refunds or complaints in cases such as this ???

Phil

- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...


> Sounds like your instructor didn't know BGP either. What a shame. You
could
> ask for your money back...
>
> BTW, I like "cop run start" much better than "write mem." It's more
> intuitive. Not. &;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 12:39 PM 3/19/01, Buri, Heather H wrote:
> >Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not
know
> >what he was talking about.  I thought 12.1 was still the most recent
version
> >but then again, I have not been on CCO recently upgrading my IOS's
either.
> >And...been too busy the past couple of days trying to get caught up from
> >being gone for a week from work.  I will check it out tonight.  :-)
> >
> >Heather Buri
> >CSC Technology Services - Houston
> >
> >Phone:  (713)-961-8592
> >Fax:(713)-961-8249
> >Mobile:
> >Alpha Page:
> >
> >Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
> >  Suite 500
> >              Houston, TX 77056
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:08 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
> >
> >
> >Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
> >12.2 isn't even out yet.
> >
> > >>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
> >Hi Everyone.
> >
> >Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
> >have
> >to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
> >good
> >time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
> >whole
> >day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
> >class!
> >My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
> >
> >Router Rip
> >
> >Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
> >because too
> >many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
> >
> >Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
> >$2000
> >on the CIT course now.
> >
> >I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
> >Based
> >routing some more.
> >
> >My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
> >was
> >news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
> >has
> >anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
> >away
> >with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
> >it was
> >coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
> >
> >Heather Buri
> >CSC Technology Services - Houston
> >
> >Phone:  (713)-961-8592
> >Fax:(713)-961-8249
> >Mobile:
> >Alpha Page:
> >
> >Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
> >  Suite 500
> >  Houston, TX 77056
>
>
> 
>
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> http://www.priscilla.com
>
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Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-20 Thread Circusnuts

Your instructor's actions don't sound much in line with the real world.
Version 13 does not exist & the IOS versions are only up to 12.1.(7).  The
closest GD is 12.0(9) & Write Mem works on my 12.1(x) 4500 router.  Lastly-
I cannot believe someone teaching Routing 2.0 class would cover RIP & not
have time to cover BGP or OSPF.  I'm taking that test Thursday & my
co-workers (some have taken it a recent as last week) tell me the exam is
80% BGP & 20% OSPF.  RIP is a CCNA topic.

I'd be inclined to call Global Knowledge about this class.  I get just under
$5,000 a year in training money & this would infuriate me to know I blew a
chance getting ahead...

Phil

- Original Message -
From: "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:41 PM
Subject: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...


> Hi Everyone.
>
> Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
have
> to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
good
> time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
whole
> day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
class!
> My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
>
> Router Rip
>
> Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier because
too
> many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
>
> Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
$2000
> on the CIT course now.
>
> I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
Based
> routing some more.
>
> My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
was
> news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is, has
> anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
away
> with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew it
was
> coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
>
> Heather Buri
> CSC Technology Services - Houston
>
> Phone: (713)-961-8592
> Fax: (713)-961-8249
> Mobile:
> Alpha Page:
>
> Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd
>  Suite 500
>  Houston, TX 77056
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: Chris Haller; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
>
>
> I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
> know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
> their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
> you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
> guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
> have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there!
>
>
> --- Chris Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have
> > noticed
> > a recent influx in people attempting and passing
> > CCNP
> > and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
> > hundreds of people on this board ...
> >
> > Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this
> > means
> > nothing.  It is good, takes a good amoumt of work
> > and
> > is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your
> > issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's.  There
> > is
> > no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE"  If you pass the
> > lab, you know your stuff .. WELL.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Adele Galus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Mike;
> > >
> > > I find your comment very interesting, most
> > positions
> > > state how
> > > many years of experience before applying. The only
> > > exceptions
> > > that I have seen with certification positions, is
> > in
> > > the programing field.
> > > It's not the certification being a problem - it's
> > > the resources for
> > > people to obtain experience.
> > >
> > > My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs
> > for
> > > people to work in when
> > > studying for their certification that are
> > affordable
> > > or that it can be obtain.
> > > People need to be involved with study groups and
> > > they should do volunteer
> > > work or try working as a contractor.
> > >
> > > This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft
> > > started programs in
> > > San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming
> > > certified. Why did they do
> > > that
> > >
> > > What amazes me is how these people, that you are
> > > seeing, have passed the test
> > >
> > > my 03 cents worth.
> > >
> > > respectfully,
> > > adele
> > >
> > > Mike Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will probably get yelled at for this one
> > but...
> > > >
> > > > I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the
> > > CCIE.
> > > > So up front I am not against certs.
> > > >
> > > > I am becoming aware of more and more people
> > > becoming
> > > > Cisco certified and not know enough to go and
> > > actually
> > > > do the work. Our company has and is interviewing
> > > for
> > > > network folks, I h

re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-19 Thread Johnny Sun

When I do my first lab of BGP, I use cisco 2500 with version 11.2. Ask for
your money back!

Johnny Sun

>Sounds like your instructor didn't know BGP either. What a shame. You could
>ask for your money back...
>
>BTW, I like "cop run start" much better than "write mem." It's more
>intuitive. Not. &;-)
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 12:39 PM 3/19/01, Buri, Heather H wrote:
>>Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not
know
>>what he was talking about.  I thought 12.1 was still the most recent
version
>>but then again, I have not been on CCO recently upgrading my IOS's either.
>>And...been too busy the past couple of days trying to get caught up from
>>being gone for a week from work.  I will check it out tonight.  :-)
>>
>>Heather Buri
>>CSC Technology Services - Houston
>>
>>Phone:  (713)-961-8592
>>Fax:(713)-961-8249
>>Mobile:
>>Alpha Page:
>>
>>Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
>>  Suite 500
>>  Houston, TX 77056
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:08 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
>>
>>
>>Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
>>12.2 isn't even out yet.
>>
>> >>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
>>Hi Everyone.
>>
>>Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
>>have
>>to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
>>good
>>time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
>>whole
>>day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
>>class!
>>My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
>>
>>Router Rip
>>
>>Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
>>because too
>>many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
>>
>>Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
>>$2000
>>on the CIT course now.
>>
>>I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
>>Based
>>routing some more.
>>
>>My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
>>was
>>news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
>>has
>>anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
>>away
>>with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
>>it was
>>coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
>>
>>Heather Buri
>>CSC Technology Services - Houston
>>
>>Phone:  (713)-961-8592
>>Fax:(713)-961-8249
>>Mobile:
>>Alpha Page:
>>
>>Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
>>  Suite 500
>>  Houston, TX 77056
>
>
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com
>
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RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Sounds like your instructor didn't know BGP either. What a shame. You could 
ask for your money back...

BTW, I like "cop run start" much better than "write mem." It's more 
intuitive. Not. &;-)

Priscilla

At 12:39 PM 3/19/01, Buri, Heather H wrote:
>Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not know
>what he was talking about.  I thought 12.1 was still the most recent version
>but then again, I have not been on CCO recently upgrading my IOS's either.
>And...been too busy the past couple of days trying to get caught up from
>being gone for a week from work.  I will check it out tonight.  :-)
>
>Heather Buri
>CSC Technology Services - Houston
>
>Phone:  (713)-961-8592
>Fax:(713)-961-8249
>Mobile:
>Alpha Page:
>
>Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
>  Suite 500
>  Houston, TX 77056
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:08 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
>
>
>Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
>12.2 isn't even out yet.
>
> >>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
>Hi Everyone.
>
>Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
>have
>to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
>good
>time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
>whole
>day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
>class!
>My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
>
>Router Rip
>
>Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
>because too
>many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
>
>Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
>$2000
>on the CIT course now.
>
>I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
>Based
>routing some more.
>
>My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
>was
>news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
>has
>anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
>away
>with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
>it was
>coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
>
>Heather Buri
>CSC Technology Services - Houston
>
>Phone:  (713)-961-8592
>Fax:(713)-961-8249
>Mobile:
>Alpha Page:
>
>Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
>  Suite 500
>  Houston, TX 77056




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Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-19 Thread Kevin Wigle

This doesn't make me feel like taking a course from GK anytime soon.

Making a simple mistake that it exists is one thing but saying its been out
for "some time" is scary.

Yep, this instructor is "up to date" with Cisco IOS. SO up to date he's
seeing the future.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...


> Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
> 12.2 isn't even out yet.
>
> >>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
> Hi Everyone.
>
> Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
> have
> to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
> good
> time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
> whole
> day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
> class!
> My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
>
> Router Rip
>
> Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
> because too
> many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
>
> Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
> $2000
> on the CIT course now.
>
> I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
> Based
> routing some more.
>
> My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
> was
> news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
> has
> anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
> away
> with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
> it was
> coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
>
> Heather Buri
> CSC Technology Services - Houston
>
> Phone: (713)-961-8592
> Fax: (713)-961-8249
> Mobile:
> Alpha Page:
>
> Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd
>  Suite 500
>  Houston, TX 77056
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: Chris Haller; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
>
>
> I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
> know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
> their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
> you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
> guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
> have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there!
>
>
> --- Chris Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have
> > noticed
> > a recent influx in people attempting and passing
> > CCNP
> > and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
> > hundreds of people on this board ...
> >
> > Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this
> > means
> > nothing.  It is good, takes a good amoumt of work
> > and
> > is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your
> > issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's.  There
> > is
> > no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE"  If you pass the
> > lab, you know your stuff .. WELL.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Adele Galus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Mike;
> > >
> > > I find your comment very interesting, most
> > positions
> > > state how
> > > many years of experience before applying. The only
> > > exceptions
> > > that I have seen with certification positions, is
> > in
> > > the programing field.
> > > It's not the certification being a problem - it's
> > > the resources for
> > > people to obtain experience.
> > >
> > > My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs
> > for
> > > people to work in when
> > > studying for their certification that are
> > affordable
> > > or that it can be obtain.
> > > People need to be involved with study groups and
> > > they should do volunteer
> > > work or try working as a contractor.
> > >
> > > This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft
> > > started programs in
> > > San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming
> > > certified. Why did they do
> > > that
> > >
> > > What ama

RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-19 Thread Timothy Metz

unless he's talking about some private area on CCO there is no 13 yet

I'm still waiting on 12.1 to go GD!

Tim

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Neiberger
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...
> 
> 
> Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
> 12.2 isn't even out yet.
> 
> >>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
> Hi Everyone.
> 
> Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
> have
> to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
> good
> time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
> whole
> day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
> class!
> My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
> 
> Router Rip
> 
> Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
> because too
> many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
> 
> Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
> $2000
> on the CIT course now.  
> 
> I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
> Based
> routing some more.  
> 
> My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
> was
> news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
> has
> anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
> away
> with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
> it was
> coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
> 
> Heather Buri   
> CSC Technology Services - Houston
> 
> Phone:(713)-961-8592
> Fax:  (713)-961-8249
> Mobile:   
> Alpha Page:   
> 
> Mailing:  1360 Post Oak Blvd
>Suite 500
>Houston, TX 77056
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: Chris Haller; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
> 
> 
> I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
> know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
> their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
> you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
> guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
> have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there!
> 
> 
> --- Chris Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have
> > noticed
> > a recent influx in people attempting and passing
> > CCNP
> > and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
> > hundreds of people on this board ...
> > 
> > Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this
> > means
> > nothing.  It is good, takes a good amoumt of work
> > and
> > is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your
> > issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's.  There
> > is
> > no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE"  If you pass the
> > lab, you know your stuff .. WELL.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Adele Galus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Mike;
> > > 
> > > I find your comment very interesting, most
> > positions
> > > state how
> > > many years of experience before applying. The only
> > > exceptions
> > > that I have seen with certification positions, is
> > in
> > > the programing field.
> > > It's not the certification being a problem - it's
> > > the resources for
> > > people to obtain experience.
> > > 
> > > My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs
> > for
> > > people to work in when
> > > studying for their certification that are
> > affordable
> > > or that it can be obtain.
> > > People need to be involved with study groups and
> > > they should do volunteer
> > > work or try working as a contractor.
> > > 
> > > This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft
> > > started programs in
> > > San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming
> > > certified. Why did they do
> > > that
> > > 
> > > What amazes me is how these people, that you are
&g

Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-19 Thread Mask Of Zorro

Chances are that your instructor was driving a cab or installing security 
alarms for a living a few months ago... Read the course material for factual 
information related to the exam. I wouldn't rely heavily on anything that an 
instructor said - there's not a lot of "value-add" there...

Z


>From: "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: IOS version 13.xxx  ??  and a Rant...
>Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:41:14 -0600
>
>Hi Everyone.
>
>Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I have
>to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some good
>time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a 
>whole
>day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced class!
>My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:
>
>Router Rip
>
>Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier because 
>too
>many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::
>
>Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself $2000
>on the CIT course now.
>
>I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy 
>Based
>routing some more.
>
>My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This was
>news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is, has
>anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did away
>with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew it 
>was
>coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)
>
>Heather Buri
>CSC Technology Services - Houston
>
>Phone: (713)-961-8592
>Fax:   (713)-961-8249
>Mobile:
>Alpha Page:
>
>Mailing:   1360 Post Oak Blvd
>Suite 500
>Houston, TX 77056
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:58 AM
>To: Chris Haller; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
>
>
>I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
>know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
>their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
>you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
>guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
>have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there!
>
>
>--- Chris Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have
> > noticed
> > a recent influx in people attempting and passing
> > CCNP
> > and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
> > hundreds of people on this board ...
> >
> > Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this
> > means
> > nothing.  It is good, takes a good amoumt of work
> > and
> > is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your
> > issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's.  There
> > is
> > no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE"  If you pass the
> > lab, you know your stuff .. WELL.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Adele Galus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Mike;
> > >
> > > I find your comment very interesting, most
> > positions
> > > state how
> > > many years of experience before applying. The only
> > > exceptions
> > > that I have seen with certification positions, is
> > in
> > > the programing field.
> > > It's not the certification being a problem - it's
> > > the resources for
> > > people to obtain experience.
> > >
> > > My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs
> > for
> > > people to work in when
> > > studying for their certification that are
> > affordable
> > > or that it can be obtain.
> > > People need to be involved with study groups and
> > > they should do volunteer
> > > work or try working as a contractor.
> > >
> > > This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft
> > > started programs in
> > > San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming
> > > certified. Why did they do
> > > that
> > >
> > > What amazes me is how these people, that you are
> > > seeing, have passed the test
> > >
> > > my 03 cents worth.
> > >
> > > respectfully,
> > > adele
> > >
> > > Mike Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will probably get yelled at for this one
> > but...
> > > >
> > > > I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the
> > > CCIE.
> > > > So up front I am not against certs.
> > > >
> > > > I am becoming aware of more and more people
> > > becoming
> > > > Cisco certified and not know enough to go and
> > > actually
> > > > do the work. Our company has and is interviewing
> > > for
> > > > network folks, I have the opportunity to
> > interview
> > > > these people to verify technical experience. I
> > > have
> > > > had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks
> > > who
> > > > could not tell me what they 'should' acutally
> > > know.
> > > >
> > > > This scares me because I am also working hard
> > > toward
> > > > my certs and the CCIE. But i

RE: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-19 Thread Buri, Heather H

Well, it may be like Z said earlier and that is...my instructor did not know
what he was talking about.  I thought 12.1 was still the most recent version
but then again, I have not been on CCO recently upgrading my IOS's either.
And...been too busy the past couple of days trying to get caught up from
being gone for a week from work.  I will check it out tonight.  :-)

Heather Buri   
CSC Technology Services - Houston

Phone:  (713)-961-8592
Fax:(713)-961-8249
Mobile: 
Alpha Page: 

Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
 Suite 500
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-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...


Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
12.2 isn't even out yet.

>>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
Hi Everyone.

Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
have
to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
good
time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
whole
day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
class!
My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:

Router Rip

Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
because too
many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::

Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
$2000
on the CIT course now.  

I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
Based
routing some more.  

My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
was
news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
has
anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
away
with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
it was
coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)

Heather Buri   
CSC Technology Services - Houston

Phone:  (713)-961-8592
Fax:(713)-961-8249
Mobile: 
Alpha Page: 

Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
 Suite 500
 Houston, TX 77056



-Original Message-
From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Chris Haller; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX


I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there!


--- Chris Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have
> noticed
> a recent influx in people attempting and passing
> CCNP
> and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
> hundreds of people on this board ...
> 
> Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this
> means
> nothing.  It is good, takes a good amoumt of work
> and
> is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your
> issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's.  There
> is
> no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE"  If you pass the
> lab, you know your stuff .. WELL.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Adele Galus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Mike;
> > 
> > I find your comment very interesting, most
> positions
> > state how
> > many years of experience before applying. The only
> > exceptions
> > that I have seen with certification positions, is
> in
> > the programing field.
> > It's not the certification being a problem - it's
> > the resources for
> > people to obtain experience.
> > 
> > My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs
> for
> > people to work in when
> > studying for their certification that are
> affordable
> > or that it can be obtain.
> > People need to be involved with study groups and
> > they should do volunteer
> > work or try working as a contractor.
> > 
> > This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft
> > started programs in
> > San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming
> > certified. Why did they do
> > that
> > 
> > What amazes me is how these people, that you are
> > seeing, have passed the test
> > 
> > my 03 cents worth.
> > 
> > respectfully,
> > adele
> > 
> > Mike Davis wrote:
> > 
> > > I wil

Re: IOS version 13.xxx ?? and a Rant...

2001-03-19 Thread John Neiberger

Wow, 13 already?  That's pretty surprising since 12.1 isn't GD yet and
12.2 isn't even out yet.

>>> "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/19/01 10:41:14 AM >>>
Hi Everyone.

Well, I finished my BSCN course through Global Knowledge last week.  I
have
to say I was kind of disappointed.  I really was wanting to spend some
good
time on BGP and OSPF but we had to rush through it because we wasted a
whole
day going over RIP???  I thought this was supposed to be an advanced
class!
My opinion is the only refresher we should have been given on RIP is:

Router Rip

Anyways, the instructor said they started making the labs easier
because too
many people complained about them being too difficult???  :::sigh:::

Oh well.  Thank God for this list and I guess I will be saving myself
$2000
on the CIT course now.  

I will be taking my exam on April 5.  I wanted to study BGP and Policy
Based
routing some more.  

My instructor did mention Cisco was up to IOS release 13 already.  This
was
news to me.  He said it had been out for some time.  My question is,
has
anyone been using it yet?  My instructor did say that they finally did
away
with my favorite command... write mem.  A sad, sad day!  Well, I knew
it was
coming.  I don't suppose "c r s" will work at the command line??  :-)

Heather Buri   
CSC Technology Services - Houston

Phone:  (713)-961-8592
Fax:(713)-961-8249
Mobile: 
Alpha Page: 

Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
 Suite 500
 Houston, TX 77056



-Original Message-
From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Chris Haller; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX


I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there!


--- Chris Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have
> noticed
> a recent influx in people attempting and passing
> CCNP
> and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
> hundreds of people on this board ...
> 
> Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this
> means
> nothing.  It is good, takes a good amoumt of work
> and
> is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your
> issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's.  There
> is
> no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE"  If you pass the
> lab, you know your stuff .. WELL.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Adele Galus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Mike;
> > 
> > I find your comment very interesting, most
> positions
> > state how
> > many years of experience before applying. The only
> > exceptions
> > that I have seen with certification positions, is
> in
> > the programing field.
> > It's not the certification being a problem - it's
> > the resources for
> > people to obtain experience.
> > 
> > My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs
> for
> > people to work in when
> > studying for their certification that are
> affordable
> > or that it can be obtain.
> > People need to be involved with study groups and
> > they should do volunteer
> > work or try working as a contractor.
> > 
> > This problem became obvious when Cisco & Microsoft
> > started programs in
> > San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming
> > certified. Why did they do
> > that
> > 
> > What amazes me is how these people, that you are
> > seeing, have passed the test
> > 
> > my 03 cents worth.
> > 
> > respectfully,
> > adele
> > 
> > Mike Davis wrote:
> > 
> > > I will probably get yelled at for this one
> but...
> > >
> > > I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the
> > CCIE.
> > > So up front I am not against certs.
> > >
> > > I am becoming aware of more and more people
> > becoming
> > > Cisco certified and not know enough to go and
> > actually
> > > do the work. Our company has and is interviewing
> > for
> > > network folks, I have the opportunity to
> interview
> > > these people to verify technical experience. I
> > have
> > > had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks
> > who
> > > could not tell me what they 'should' acutally
> > know.
> > >
> > > This scares me because I am also working hard
> > toward
> > > my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven
> and
> > is
> > > showing up more that these people are becoming
> > "paper"
> > > Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
> > >
> > > I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will
> remain
> > as
> > > difficult if not more so in the future. I for
> one
> > do
> > > not want to spend a year of my life gaining the
> > CCIE
> > > title to be one among thousands who also have
> it.
> > >
> > > That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> > > try to make it more difficult to obtain the
> > CCNP/DP
> > > and not become another M

Re: IOS Version question

2001-01-31 Thread Richard Gallagher

Hi Stuart,

The 12.0.7-XK1 is only supported on 2610-2621 and not the two models that you
have have mentioned. Is there any particular reason that you need this image??

You are correct in that the image requires 32MB of DRAM and 8MD of Flash

The 2600 series has two slots for DRAM, so if they are both full you are going
to have to change them for 2 x 16MB.

Rich

On Jan 31,  2:24pm, Stuart Laubstein chatted about:
> Subject:IOS Version question
> I have just bought an IOS 12.0(7)XK1   IP/FW Feature Pack. My first question
> is if I am correct in assuming that I will need to have 8mb of flash and 32
> mb of ram. My second question is how difficult is it for me to install the
> new RAM if I had it. I think I only have 16 mb but I could buy 2 more 8 mb
> modules (or is the number of modules limited) couldnt I? This would be on a
> Cisco 2503 or 2501.
>
> thanks
>
> stu
>
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Re: [IOS Version]

2000-10-19 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

You can go to the cisco web site and browse through
the release notes/order by product # pages. These
pages contain many tables cross referencing features
to which feature set they are in.

Or you can use Feature Navigator (need CCO) to choose
features you need and it will tell you what IOS has
them. On the last page, if you select ALL release, the
output will contain the feature set name, image name,
and memory requirements. As well as a link to find out
what all the features are in a particular image. 

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/FeatureNav/FN.pl

- Erick B.

--- Sam LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> perhaps try show version will able to help,
> if you are not sure, get the enterprise version +
> appn will do
> Sam LI
> - Original Message -
> From: FAISAL ATHAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [IOS Version]
> 
> 
> > From Cisco Site, you can easily find out your
> required feature set IOS.
> >
> > Faisal.
> >
> > "Hubert Pun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a Cisco 3620 with
> >
> > cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with
> 18432K/6144K bytes of
> > memory.
> >
> > and
> >
> > DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity
> disabled.
> > 29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> > 4096K bytes of processor board System flash
> (Read/Write)
> >
> > I need to do a lab with DLSw and also IPX,
> Appletalk (but not ISDN)
> >
> > How do I know which IOS version to use?  IS there
> a quick way to check
> > it? Or I have to download every single IOS image
> and check it?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Hubert
> >
> >
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Re: [IOS Version]

2000-10-19 Thread Sam LI

perhaps try show version will able to help,
if you are not sure, get the enterprise version + appn will do
Sam LI
- Original Message -
From: FAISAL ATHAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [IOS Version]


> From Cisco Site, you can easily find out your required feature set IOS.
>
> Faisal.
>
> "Hubert Pun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a Cisco 3620 with
>
> cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 18432K/6144K bytes of
> memory.
>
> and
>
> DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
> 29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> 4096K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
>
> I need to do a lab with DLSw and also IPX, Appletalk (but not ISDN)
>
> How do I know which IOS version to use?  IS there a quick way to check
> it? Or I have to download every single IOS image and check it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Hubert
>
>
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Re: [IOS Version]

2000-10-19 Thread FAISAL ATHAR

>From Cisco Site, you can easily find out your required feature set IOS.

Faisal.

"Hubert Pun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a Cisco 3620 with

cisco 3620 (R4700) processor (revision 0x81) with 18432K/6144K bytes of
memory.

and

DRAM configuration is 32 bits wide with parity disabled.
29K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
4096K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

I need to do a lab with DLSw and also IPX, Appletalk (but not ISDN)

How do I know which IOS version to use?  IS there a quick way to check
it? Or I have to download every single IOS image and check it?

Thanks

Hubert


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