Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Joel Esler (jesler)]

0.99.3 is coming, it’s under active development now.


As far 3rd party signatures, we are happy to accept any, and all 3rd party 
signature databases that which to be included in the official set (there is at 
least one now (http://www.clamav.net/contact#partners) with another two that 
are coming).  If people are interested in having 3rd party databases 
incorporated into the official feed, I’d say contact the authors and ask them 
to contact me.  The authors will receive any false positive reports about their 
signatures at the same time that we receive them, the behavior is completely 
open.  We’re even working on creating a false positive API so that people can 
submit FPs to us.  (say the authors of the GUI wanted to build a right click -> 
submit FP action to clamav.net.  That’s what we are working 
on.)

Of course the signatures will be ran through our false positive system, which 
we are continually working on.



--
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On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Al Varnell 
mailto:alvarn...@mac.com>> wrote:

Benny,

Obviously Joel is in a better position to answer these than a fellow user, but 
I'll give some of it a try.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 08:05 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:

Joel Esler (jesler) skrev den 2017-04-20 01:40:
Alright all —
I think the conversation and arguing has gone on long enough and we’ve
beat not only the topic to death, but the topics after the topic are
now dead.
I’ve received enough complaints at this point to call a truce.

Joel i can only say you are nearly only one i still not have put autoreader on, 
its sad to see so many flames of me when user could stop read what i post, 
thats imho really sad, world would be better if all helped each other, and not 
trowing bomps on things that is not better after the bomp is trowed

in gentoo 0.99 is last stable version, and 0.99.1 0.99.2 is masked unstable, 
what happende to 0.99.3 ?

freshclam says 0.99.2 is latest version

You'll probably have to ask Gentoo why they are running behind. 0.99.2 has been 
ClamAV's stable release since it's Apr 22, 2016.

Questions about 0.99.3 would be better asked on clamav-devel, but it's 
currently an active branch 
.

only thing i wish will come is to see OnUnOFFicial sigs in clamav milter so it 
can accept and tag 3dr party virus/spam sigs, that will save 1 clamd instance, 
and one clamav-milter instance

that way its up to spamassassin to score on results, and if spamas-milter 
reject if scored to high

is there plans to have more 3dr party sigs into clamav ?

The policy for the inclusion of 3rd party signatures has long been that the 
Community is both welcome and encouraged to submit them to the ClamAV Detection 
Content Team for validation and distribution. I know that some of the main 
providers have been personally encouraged to do so, but so far have apparently 
declined. There's even a page where anyone can submit them 
. I seriously doubt that ClamAV will 
provide open inclusion of such signatures without having an opportunity to 
check each one for format and then run them against their Quality Control 
database in an attempt to reduce the number of False Positives.

-Al-
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Al Varnell]

Benny,

Obviously Joel is in a better position to answer these than a fellow user, but 
I'll give some of it a try.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 08:05 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> 
> Joel Esler (jesler) skrev den 2017-04-20 01:40:
>> Alright all —
>> I think the conversation and arguing has gone on long enough and we’ve
>> beat not only the topic to death, but the topics after the topic are
>> now dead.
>> I’ve received enough complaints at this point to call a truce.
> 
> Joel i can only say you are nearly only one i still not have put autoreader 
> on, its sad to see so many flames of me when user could stop read what i 
> post, thats imho really sad, world would be better if all helped each other, 
> and not trowing bomps on things that is not better after the bomp is trowed
> 
> in gentoo 0.99 is last stable version, and 0.99.1 0.99.2 is masked unstable, 
> what happende to 0.99.3 ?
> 
> freshclam says 0.99.2 is latest version

You'll probably have to ask Gentoo why they are running behind. 0.99.2 has been 
ClamAV's stable release since it's Apr 22, 2016.

Questions about 0.99.3 would be better asked on clamav-devel, but it's 
currently an active branch 
.

> only thing i wish will come is to see OnUnOFFicial sigs in clamav milter so 
> it can accept and tag 3dr party virus/spam sigs, that will save 1 clamd 
> instance, and one clamav-milter instance
> 
> that way its up to spamassassin to score on results, and if spamas-milter 
> reject if scored to high
> 
> is there plans to have more 3dr party sigs into clamav ?

The policy for the inclusion of 3rd party signatures has long been that the 
Community is both welcome and encouraged to submit them to the ClamAV Detection 
Content Team for validation and distribution. I know that some of the main 
providers have been personally encouraged to do so, but so far have apparently 
declined. There's even a page where anyone can submit them 
. I seriously doubt that ClamAV will 
provide open inclusion of such signatures without having an opportunity to 
check each one for format and then run them against their Quality Control 
database in an attempt to reduce the number of False Positives.

-Al-
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Mountain View, CA






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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Benny Pedersen]

Joel Esler (jesler) skrev den 2017-04-20 01:40:

Alright all —

I think the conversation and arguing has gone on long enough and we’ve
beat not only the topic to death, but the topics after the topic are
now dead.

I’ve received enough complaints at this point to call a truce.


Joel i can only say you are nearly only one i still not have put 
autoreader on, its sad to see so many flames of me when user could stop 
read what i post, thats imho really sad, world would be better if all 
helped each other, and not trowing bomps on things that is not better 
after the bomp is trowed


in gentoo 0.99 is last stable version, and 0.99.1 0.99.2 is masked 
unstable, what happende to 0.99.3 ?


freshclam says 0.99.2 is latest version

only thing i wish will come is to see OnUnOFFicial sigs in clamav milter 
so it can accept and tag 3dr party virus/spam sigs, that will save 1 
clamd instance, and one clamav-milter instance


that way its up to spamassassin to score on results, and if 
spamas-milter reject if scored to high


is there plans to have more 3dr party sigs into clamav ?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Joel Esler (jesler)]

Alright all —

I think the conversation and arguing has gone on long enough and we’ve beat not 
only the topic to death, but the topics after the topic are now dead.

I’ve received enough complaints at this point to call a truce.

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On Apr 19, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Reindl Harald 
mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote:



Am 19.04.2017 um 22:52 schrieb Groach:
On 19/04/2017 20:23, Reindl Harald wrote:
BTW: "Groach" is also a entry on my list of clueless idiots for a long time and 
other than you and your friend Benny i do not depend on any mailing list since 
i got my stuff together by RTFM and trial&error long ago...
Interesting you define someone that uses mailing lists to find answers to 
questions as "clueless idiots".  Im sure all readers and users of this will 
really appreciate your judgement.

no - but at least i expect from anybody these days to do his basic google 
homework and read basic instructions BEFORE ask questions which require a basic 
education on a ton of layers in times where so much informations are public 
available
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Reindl Harald]

Am 19.04.2017 um 22:52 schrieb Groach:

On 19/04/2017 20:23, Reindl Harald wrote:
BTW: "Groach" is also a entry on my list of clueless idiots for a long 
time and other than you and your friend Benny i do not depend on any 
mailing list since i got my stuff together by RTFM and trial&error 
long ago...


Interesting you define someone that uses mailing lists to find answers 
to questions as "clueless idiots".  Im sure all readers and users of 
this will really appreciate your judgement.


no - but at least i expect from anybody these days to do his basic 
google homework and read basic instructions BEFORE ask questions which 
require a basic education on a ton of layers in times where so much 
informations are public available

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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Reindl Harald]

BTW: "Groach" is also a entry on my list of clueless idiots for a long 
time and other than you and your friend Benny i do not depend on any 
mailing list since i got my stuff together by RTFM and trial&error long 
ago...


show me 5 *really useful* repsones of you on any random mailing-list

useful means somebody did know more than before and if it's how to seek 
basics and doing his homework in the future


Am 19.04.2017 um 21:20 schrieb Reindl Harald:

Am 19.04.2017 um 21:13 schrieb Groach:
I know about annoying Harald, I ALWAYS see your petty pointless 
responses with Benny (in the Spamassassin maillist 


well, Benny and the OP are a sweet couple, none of both have any clue 
about anything but are talking... the difference about my "pointless 
responses" and Bennys or the OP's are the i know what i am talking about 
or just shut up and hence i expect form anybody to be able operate 
google and then asking detail questions instead try to get everything 
for free by posting unqualified und unspecific random junk


the one you were reprimanded on for doing so and changed your posting 
ID to continue doing it) and believe me find it EXTREMELY annoying as 
you constantly fill my inbox with your child-like squabbling.  The 
difference is I choose to rise above it and not bother wasting time 
writing and telling you (normally) and simply press delete and move on 
to other things.


Some of you should try it sometimes.


bla

Again, nothing wrong with some asking questions.  If you dont want to 
answer them with proper or helpful answers, find them annoying, or 
disagree with anyone elses answers then just press DELETE and stop 
reading.  The world wont end without your replies.


when someone with obviously no clue what he is talking about is asking 
questions in a way that it#s clear that he donät have a clue what he is 
asking about at all which shows he did not do his homework IT IS WRONG


http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise


On 19/04/2017 19:50, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 19.04.2017 um 20:44 schrieb Groach:
It only takes up peoples time of they CHOOSE to want to answer. And 
if they choose to answer then they have no right to be annoyed about 
their time being used.   If people dont want to answer, or get 
annoyed by other posters questions, then they should simply stay 
away from the reply button and move on to more important things in 
their lives. (This also helps to save reading time for others who 
get annoyed by people who get annoyed and waste time telling people 
they are getting annoyed).


NO

if someone *over days* posts nonsense showing he has zero clue what 
he is talking about *it is* annyoing - period



On 19/04/2017 13:30, Dino Edwards wrote:

or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time



-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of crazy thinker

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:20 AM
To: ClamAV users ML
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

@Joel

That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in 
Commercial Product ?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Reindl Harald]

Am 19.04.2017 um 21:13 schrieb Groach:
I know about annoying Harald, I ALWAYS see your petty pointless 
responses with Benny (in the Spamassassin maillist 


well, Benny and the OP are a sweet couple, none of both have any clue 
about anything but are talking... the difference about my "pointless 
responses" and Bennys or the OP's are the i know what i am talking about 
or just shut up and hence i expect form anybody to be able operate 
google and then asking detail questions instead try to get everything 
for free by posting unqualified und unspecific random junk


the one you were 
reprimanded on for doing so and changed your posting ID to continue 
doing it) and believe me find it EXTREMELY annoying as you constantly 
fill my inbox with your child-like squabbling.  The difference is I 
choose to rise above it and not bother wasting time writing and telling 
you (normally) and simply press delete and move on to other things.


Some of you should try it sometimes.


bla

Again, nothing wrong with some asking questions.  If you dont want to 
answer them with proper or helpful answers, find them annoying, or 
disagree with anyone elses answers then just press DELETE and stop 
reading.  The world wont end without your replies.


when someone with obviously no clue what he is talking about is asking 
questions in a way that it#s clear that he donät have a clue what he is 
asking about at all which shows he did not do his homework IT IS WRONG


http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise


On 19/04/2017 19:50, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 19.04.2017 um 20:44 schrieb Groach:
It only takes up peoples time of they CHOOSE to want to answer. And 
if they choose to answer then they have no right to be annoyed about 
their time being used.   If people dont want to answer, or get 
annoyed by other posters questions, then they should simply stay away 
from the reply button and move on to more important things in their 
lives. (This also helps to save reading time for others who get 
annoyed by people who get annoyed and waste time telling people they 
are getting annoyed).


NO

if someone *over days* posts nonsense showing he has zero clue what he 
is talking about *it is* annyoing - period



On 19/04/2017 13:30, Dino Edwards wrote:

or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of crazy thinker

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:20 AM
To: ClamAV users ML
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

@Joel

That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in 
Commercial Product ?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

Thank you Captain Obvious for the outstanding insight. I already answered his 
question so find somebody else to troll

-Original Message-
From: Groach [groachmail-stopspammin...@yahoo.com]
Received: Wednesday, 19 Apr 2017, 2:44PM
To: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net [clamav-users@lists.clamav.net]
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

It only takes up peoples time of they CHOOSE to want to answer. And if
they choose to answer then they have no right to be annoyed about their
time being used.   If people dont want to answer, or get annoyed by
other posters questions, then they should simply stay away from the
reply button and move on to more important things in their lives. (This
also helps to save reading time for others who get annoyed by people who
get annoyed and waste time telling people they are getting annoyed).

On 19/04/2017 13:30, Dino Edwards wrote:
> or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf 
> Of crazy thinker
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:20 AM
> To: ClamAV users ML
> Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>
> @Joel
>
> That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in Commercial 
> Product ?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Groach]

I know about annoying Harald, I ALWAYS see your petty pointless 
responses with Benny (in the Spamassassin maillist - the one you were 
reprimanded on for doing so and changed your posting ID to continue 
doing it) and believe me find it EXTREMELY annoying as you constantly 
fill my inbox with your child-like squabbling.  The difference is I 
choose to rise above it and not bother wasting time writing and telling 
you (normally) and simply press delete and move on to other things.


Some of you should try it sometimes.

Again, nothing wrong with some asking questions.  If you dont want to 
answer them with proper or helpful answers, find them annoying, or 
disagree with anyone elses answers then just press DELETE and stop 
reading.  The world wont end without your replies.




On 19/04/2017 19:50, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 19.04.2017 um 20:44 schrieb Groach:
It only takes up peoples time of they CHOOSE to want to answer. And 
if they choose to answer then they have no right to be annoyed about 
their time being used.   If people dont want to answer, or get 
annoyed by other posters questions, then they should simply stay away 
from the reply button and move on to more important things in their 
lives. (This also helps to save reading time for others who get 
annoyed by people who get annoyed and waste time telling people they 
are getting annoyed).


NO

if someone *over days* posts nonsense showing he has zero clue what he 
is talking about *it is* annyoing - period



On 19/04/2017 13:30, Dino Edwards wrote:

or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time



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Behalf Of crazy thinker

Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:20 AM
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@Joel

That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in 
Commercial Product ?

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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Groach]

I agree.

Someone asking about a product providing what is, on the face of it, 
standard commercial or Enterprise class functions as available to many 
other commercial products (and definitely nothing wrong with asking 
about these things) does not constitute him "not having a clue" and it 
certainly doesnt warrant some condescending down-talk from someone he 
has never met and has NO IDEA on the level of competence of the poster 
in the first place.  And the irony of saying "if you took that to a 
commercial supplier they would probably fall about laughing " makes one 
man look stupid...and it isnt the original poster asking about it. Many 
of the commercial applications provide exactly this as he is enquiring 
about.


G.W Haywood might have a "first class honours degree in engineering in 
1976" but it certainly didnt get one in politeness or diplomacy.


Just rude and unnecessary.




On 19/04/2017 06:16, crazy thinker wrote:

@G.W Haywood..

it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well

On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood  wrote:


Hi there,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:

  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment

  -
  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
  - *Desktop Firewall*
  - *Intrusion Prevention*
  - *Browser Protection*
  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
  - *Device & Application Control*
  - *Virtualization Features*
  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*


The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
out of the door.

The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
(and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.

The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.

To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.

If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.

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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

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Am 19.04.2017 um 20:44 schrieb Groach:
It only takes up peoples time of they CHOOSE to want to answer. And if 
they choose to answer then they have no right to be annoyed about their 
time being used.   If people dont want to answer, or get annoyed by 
other posters questions, then they should simply stay away from the 
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NO

if someone *over days* posts nonsense showing he has zero clue what he 
is talking about *it is* annyoing - period



On 19/04/2017 13:30, Dino Edwards wrote:

or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time



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@Joel

That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in 
Commercial Product ?

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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dennis Peterson]

You should hire an integrator that already knows how to do this.

dp

On 4/18/17 3:28 AM, crazy thinker wrote:

Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users


I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
Business
Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees are
working

Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Joel Esler (jesler)]

We all look forward to seeing what you can bring to the table. 

--
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 08:37, crazy thinker  wrote:
> 
> @Dino..
> Yes..i have plans to integrate ClamAV in Enterprise Environment and
> primarly looking  for management console feature implementation.
> 
> you misundestood me.. i am researching on ClamAV internals..i have some
> plans to make ClamAV so more beautiful in terms of performance and
> protection :)
> 
> On 19 April 2017 at 18:00, Dino Edwards 
> wrote:
> 
>>  I already gave you an answer about going with a commercial product,
>> even gave you a recommendation. Are you stuck on ClamAV and insisting on
>> somehow integrating it in an enterprise setting which was not designed to
>> do by itself or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time
>> or do you not understand?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On
>> Behalf Of crazy thinker
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:20 AM
>> To: ClamAV users ML 
>> Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>> 
>> @Joel
>> 
>> That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in
>> Commercial Product ?
>> 
>>> On 19 April 2017 at 17:07, Joel Esler (jesler)  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All --
>>> 
>>> ClamAV does not have any plans on making an enterprise version or
>>> management console. We make a commercial product for that, which also
>>> uses ClamAV in its engine.
>>> 
>>> I think that settles the conversation.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 19, 2017, at 04:08, Reindl Harald 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 19.04.2017 um 07:16 schrieb crazy thinker:
>>>>> @G.W Haywood..
>>>>> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can
>>>>> bark
>>> on
>>>>> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
>>>> 
>>>> that was polite after following your posts for some days now
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood
>>>>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>>>>>>> - *Desktop Firewall*
>>>>>>> - *Intrusion Prevention*
>>>>>>> - *Browser Protection*
>>>>>>> - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>>>>>>> - *Device & Application Control*
>>>>>>> - *Virtualization Features*
>>>>>>> - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the
>>>>>> more painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what
>>>>>> you are talking about.  The list which you have provided above is
>>>>>> garbage; if you took that to a commercial supplier they would
>>>>>> probably fall about laughing after they have sold you a lot of
>>>>>> useless junk and shown you out of the door.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so
>>>>>> that you will become capable of making rational decisions based on
>>>>>> sound (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training,
>>>>>> if pursued full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get
>>>>>> you to the point where you at least know what a firewall does.  To
>>>>>> know how properly to configure one would, if you were no more than
>>>>>> an average pupil in the first course, probably take a couple more
>>>>>> years.  If this sounds a bit like a batchelor's degree in computer
>> science, that's not far wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
>>>>>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are
>>>>>> going to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To g

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

@Dino..
Yes..i have plans to integrate ClamAV in Enterprise Environment and
 primarly looking  for management console feature implementation.

you misundestood me.. i am researching on ClamAV internals..i have some
plans to make ClamAV so more beautiful in terms of performance and
protection :)

On 19 April 2017 at 18:00, Dino Edwards 
wrote:

>  I already gave you an answer about going with a commercial product,
> even gave you a recommendation. Are you stuck on ClamAV and insisting on
> somehow integrating it in an enterprise setting which was not designed to
> do by itself or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time
> or do you not understand?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On
> Behalf Of crazy thinker
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:20 AM
> To: ClamAV users ML 
> Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>
> @Joel
>
> That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in
> Commercial Product ?
>
> On 19 April 2017 at 17:07, Joel Esler (jesler)  wrote:
>
> > All --
> >
> > ClamAV does not have any plans on making an enterprise version or
> > management console. We make a commercial product for that, which also
> > uses ClamAV in its engine.
> >
> > I think that settles the conversation.
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 19, 2017, at 04:08, Reindl Harald 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Am 19.04.2017 um 07:16 schrieb crazy thinker:
> > >> @G.W Haywood..
> > >> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can
> > >> bark
> > on
> > >> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
> > >
> > > that was polite after following your posts for some days now
> > >
> > >>> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood
> > >>> 
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi there,
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
> > >>>>  -
> > >>>>  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
> > >>>>  - *Desktop Firewall*
> > >>>>  - *Intrusion Prevention*
> > >>>>  - *Browser Protection*
> > >>>>  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
> > >>>>  - *Device & Application Control*
> > >>>>  - *Virtualization Features*
> > >>>>  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the
> > >>> more painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what
> > >>> you are talking about.  The list which you have provided above is
> > >>> garbage; if you took that to a commercial supplier they would
> > >>> probably fall about laughing after they have sold you a lot of
> > >>> useless junk and shown you out of the door.
> > >>>
> > >>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so
> > >>> that you will become capable of making rational decisions based on
> > >>> sound (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training,
> > >>> if pursued full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get
> > >>> you to the point where you at least know what a firewall does.  To
> > >>> know how properly to configure one would, if you were no more than
> > >>> an average pupil in the first course, probably take a couple more
> > >>> years.  If this sounds a bit like a batchelor's degree in computer
> science, that's not far wrong.
> > >>>
> > >>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
> > >>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are
> > >>> going to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
> > >>>
> > >>> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be
> > >>> looking for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science
> > >>> degree to make unsupervised configuration changes to computer
> > >>> defences until he or she had worked for me for at least a few
> > >>> months - probably more like a couple of years - so that I could
> assess his/her capabilities.
> > >>

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

 I already gave you an answer about going with a commercial product, even 
gave you a recommendation. Are you stuck on ClamAV and insisting on somehow 
integrating it in an enterprise setting which was not designed to do by itself 
or do you just randomly post things to take up people's time or do you not 
understand?



-Original Message-
From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of 
crazy thinker
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:20 AM
To: ClamAV users ML 
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

@Joel

That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in Commercial 
Product ?

On 19 April 2017 at 17:07, Joel Esler (jesler)  wrote:

> All --
>
> ClamAV does not have any plans on making an enterprise version or 
> management console. We make a commercial product for that, which also 
> uses ClamAV in its engine.
>
> I think that settles the conversation.
>
> --
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 04:08, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Am 19.04.2017 um 07:16 schrieb crazy thinker:
> >> @G.W Haywood..
> >> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can 
> >> bark
> on
> >> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
> >
> > that was polite after following your posts for some days now
> >
> >>> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood 
> >>> 
> wrote:
> >>> Hi there,
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
> >>>>  -
> >>>>  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
> >>>>  - *Desktop Firewall*
> >>>>  - *Intrusion Prevention*
> >>>>  - *Browser Protection*
> >>>>  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
> >>>>  - *Device & Application Control*
> >>>>  - *Virtualization Features*
> >>>>  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the 
> >>> more painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what 
> >>> you are talking about.  The list which you have provided above is 
> >>> garbage; if you took that to a commercial supplier they would 
> >>> probably fall about laughing after they have sold you a lot of 
> >>> useless junk and shown you out of the door.
> >>>
> >>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so 
> >>> that you will become capable of making rational decisions based on 
> >>> sound (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, 
> >>> if pursued full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get 
> >>> you to the point where you at least know what a firewall does.  To 
> >>> know how properly to configure one would, if you were no more than 
> >>> an average pupil in the first course, probably take a couple more 
> >>> years.  If this sounds a bit like a batchelor's degree in computer 
> >>> science, that's not far wrong.
> >>>
> >>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with 
> >>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are 
> >>> going to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
> >>>
> >>> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be 
> >>> looking for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science 
> >>> degree to make unsupervised configuration changes to computer 
> >>> defences until he or she had worked for me for at least a few 
> >>> months - probably more like a couple of years - so that I could assess 
> >>> his/her capabilities.
> >>> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 
> >>> 1976, I've been working with computers for over forty years, and 
> >>> I'm STILL learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could 
> >>> easily eat my lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it 
> >>> really is.
> >>>
> >>> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own 
> >>> present computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is 
> >>> irresponsible, and with the present threat levels simply begging for 
> >>> trouble.
> > ___
>

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

@Joel

That Sounds good  but ClamAV is OpenSource.. how can we use it in
Commercial Product ?

On 19 April 2017 at 17:07, Joel Esler (jesler)  wrote:

> All --
>
> ClamAV does not have any plans on making an enterprise version or
> management console. We make a commercial product for that, which also uses
> ClamAV in its engine.
>
> I think that settles the conversation.
>
> --
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 04:08, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Am 19.04.2017 um 07:16 schrieb crazy thinker:
> >> @G.W Haywood..
> >> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark
> on
> >> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
> >
> > that was polite after following your posts for some days now
> >
> >>> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood 
> wrote:
> >>> Hi there,
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>   -
>   - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>   - *Desktop Firewall*
>   - *Intrusion Prevention*
>   - *Browser Protection*
>   - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>   - *Device & Application Control*
>   - *Virtualization Features*
>   - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
> 
> >>>
> >>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
> >>> painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
> >>> talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
> >>> you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
> >>> laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
> >>> out of the door.
> >>>
> >>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
> >>> you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
> >>> (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
> >>> full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
> >>> where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
> >>> configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
> >>> first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
> >>> like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.
> >>>
> >>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
> >>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
> >>> to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
> >>>
> >>> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
> >>> for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
> >>> make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
> >>> or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
> >>> like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
> >>> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
> >>> I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
> >>> learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
> >>> lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.
> >>>
> >>> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
> >>> computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
> >>> and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Joel Esler (jesler)]

All --

ClamAV does not have any plans on making an enterprise version or management 
console. We make a commercial product for that, which also uses ClamAV in its 
engine.  

I think that settles the conversation.  

--
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> On Apr 19, 2017, at 04:08, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 19.04.2017 um 07:16 schrieb crazy thinker:
>> @G.W Haywood..
>> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
>> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
> 
> that was polite after following your posts for some days now
> 
>>> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood  wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
>>> 
>>>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
  -
  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
  - *Desktop Firewall*
  - *Intrusion Prevention*
  - *Browser Protection*
  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
  - *Device & Application Control*
  - *Virtualization Features*
  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
 
>>> 
>>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
>>> painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
>>> talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
>>> you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
>>> laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
>>> out of the door.
>>> 
>>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
>>> you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
>>> (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
>>> full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
>>> where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
>>> configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
>>> first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
>>> like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.
>>> 
>>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
>>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
>>> to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
>>> 
>>> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
>>> for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
>>> make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
>>> or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
>>> like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
>>> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
>>> I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
>>> learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
>>> lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.
>>> 
>>> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
>>> computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
>>> and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Reindl Harald]

Am 19.04.2017 um 07:16 schrieb crazy thinker:

@G.W Haywood..

it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well


that was polite after following your posts for some days now


On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood  wrote:


Hi there,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:

  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment

  -
  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
  - *Desktop Firewall*
  - *Intrusion Prevention*
  - *Browser Protection*
  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
  - *Device & Application Control*
  - *Virtualization Features*
  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*



The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
out of the door.

The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
(and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.

The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.

To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.

If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.

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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Al Varnell]

Honestly, I don't see anything impolite about what Mr. Haywood had to say. 
Certainly seems to be great guidance from somebody that's been in the industry 
for over four decades. I believe you would be well served to take his advice 
seriously.

-Al-

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:16 PM, crazy thinker wrote:
> 
> @G.W Haywood..
> 
> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
> 
> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
>> 
>> - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>>> -
>>> - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>>> - *Desktop Firewall*
>>> - *Intrusion Prevention*
>>> - *Browser Protection*
>>> - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>>> - *Device & Application Control*
>>> - *Virtualization Features*
>>> - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>>> 
>> 
>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
>> painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
>> talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
>> you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
>> laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
>> out of the door.
>> 
>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
>> you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
>> (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
>> full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
>> where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
>> configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
>> first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
>> like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.
>> 
>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
>> to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
>> 
>> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
>> for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
>> make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
>> or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
>> like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
>> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
>> I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
>> learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
>> lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.
>> 
>> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
>> computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
>> and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 73,
>> Ged.


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

@G.W Haywood..

it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well

On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
>
>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>>  -
>>  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>>  - *Desktop Firewall*
>>  - *Intrusion Prevention*
>>  - *Browser Protection*
>>  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>>  - *Device & Application Control*
>>  - *Virtualization Features*
>>  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>>
>
> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
> painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
> talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
> you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
> laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
> out of the door.
>
> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
> you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
> (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
> full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
> where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
> configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
> first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
> like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.
>
> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
> to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
>
> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
> for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
> make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
> or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
> like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
> I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
> learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
> lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.
>
> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
> computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
> and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Ged.
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

Maybe give him the benefit of the doubt, although I have to admit his questions 
are suspect at best. Most of the requirements that he's looking for would 
certainly be checked off by a commercial AV vendor (not really sure what 
browser protection means) but most of it should.

-Original Message-
From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of 
G.W. Haywood
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 4:31 PM
To: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

Hi there,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:

>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>  -
>  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>  - *Desktop Firewall*
>  - *Intrusion Prevention*
>  - *Browser Protection*
>  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>  - *Device & Application Control*
>  - *Virtualization Features*
>  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*

The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more painfully 
obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.  The 
list which you have provided above is garbage; if you took that to a commercial 
supplier they would probably fall about laughing after they have sold you a lot 
of useless junk and shown you out of the door.

The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that you will 
become capable of making rational decisions based on sound (and not crazy) 
thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued full-time, to take at 
least a couple of years to get you to the point where you at least know what a 
firewall does.  To know how properly to configure one would, if you were no 
more than an average pupil in the first course, probably take a couple more 
years.  If this sounds a bit like a batchelor's degree in computer science, 
that's not far wrong.

The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with your current 
level of understanding I have no idea how you are going to be able to judge the 
competence of a prospective employee.

To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking for, I 
would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to make unsupervised 
configuration changes to computer defences until he or she had worked for me 
for at least a few months - probably more like a couple of years - so that I 
could assess his/her capabilities.
I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976, I've been 
working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL learning new, 
interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my lunch if I weren't 
careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.

If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present computer 
skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible, and with the 
present threat levels simply begging for trouble.

-- 

73,
Ged.
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[G.W. Haywood]

Hi there,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:


 - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
 -
 - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
 - *Desktop Firewall*
 - *Intrusion Prevention*
 - *Browser Protection*
 - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
 - *Device & Application Control*
 - *Virtualization Features*
 - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*


The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
out of the door.

The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
(and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.

The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.

To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.

If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.

--

73,
Ged.
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Reindl Harald]

Am 18.04.2017 um 12:44 schrieb crazy thinker:

- I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
-
- *Antivirus/Antispyware*
- *Desktop Firewall*
- *Intrusion Prevention*
- *Browser Protection*
- *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
- *Device & Application Control*
- *Virtualization Features*
- *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*


no - ClamAV is just a malwarescanner based on heuristiks and signatures 
and more or less a framework for exactly that tasks which can be 
included in mailservers via milter/clamd or whatever can talk to clamd


but it is not and hopefully never will be such a ratware as you describe 
above which in the past years brought so many problems and security 
issues on otherwise secured OS installations that i go so far and call 
all that "internet security" packages itself as malware



On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards 
wrote:


What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of crazy thinker
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users


I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
are working

Could anyone of you please help me in this?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

If you are looking for all these features you are going to have to go with a 
commercial offering. For example, Eset is decent lightweight and reasonably 
priced. Their management tools are very good also.

https://www.eset.com/us/business/



-Original Message-
From: crazy thinker [crazythinke...@gmail.com]
Received: Tuesday, 18 Apr 2017, 6:44AM
To: ClamAV users ML [clamav-users@lists.clamav.net]
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

   -
   - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
   -
   - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
   - *Desktop Firewall*
   - *Intrusion Prevention*
   - *Browser Protection*
   - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
   - *Device & Application Control*
   - *Virtualization Features*
   - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
   -

   -


On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards 
wrote:

> What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On
> Behalf Of crazy thinker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
> To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
> clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
> Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>
> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
>
>
> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
> Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
> are working
>
> Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Al Varnell]

As we've discussed before, ClamAV provides Anti-Malware protection across 
Apple, Windows and Linux hardware. You will have to look elsewhere for all 
those other features you require.

-Al-

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 03:44 AM, crazy thinker wrote:
> 
>   -
>   - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>   -
>   - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>   - *Desktop Firewall*
>   - *Intrusion Prevention*
>   - *Browser Protection*
>   - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>   - *Device & Application Control*
>   - *Virtualization Features*
>   - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>   -
> On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards wrote:
>> What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On
>> Behalf Of crazy thinker
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
>> To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
>> clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
>> Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>> 
>> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
>> 
>> 
>> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
>> Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
>> are working
>> 
>> Could anyone of you please help me in this?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

   -
   - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
   -
   - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
   - *Desktop Firewall*
   - *Intrusion Prevention*
   - *Browser Protection*
   - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
   - *Device & Application Control*
   - *Virtualization Features*
   - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
   -

   -


On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards 
wrote:

> What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On
> Behalf Of crazy thinker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
> To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
> clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
> Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>
> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
>
>
> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
> Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
> are working
>
> Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Al Varnell]

To avoid having each workstation having to update definitions over the internet 
you will probably want to setup a Private Local Mirror. See 
.

-Al-
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 03:28 AM, crazy thinker wrote:
> 
> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
> 
> 
> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
> Business
> Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees are
> working
> 
> Could anyone of you please help me in this?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?



-Original Message-
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crazy thinker
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development 

Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users


I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in 
Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees are 
working

Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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[clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users


I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
Business
Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees are
working

Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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[clamav-users] ClamAV for Enterprise Solutions

[crazy thinker]

Hi ClamAV Developers,Users

I am a security researcher and got interest in AV World. i know that ClamAV
is powerful anti-virus scanner

I have below questions in my mind
1.I would like to know How Desktop AV diifer with Enterprise AV?
2.Does ClamAV able to provide Enterprise level solutions?
3.what are essential features in Enterprise AV

i am  very curious and ding depper in security solutions and  could anyone
of you please help me  in this

Thanks,
Crazy Thinker
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