Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

I agree with the posts here, including a number of Josh's concerns noted below. 
 That said, please be aware that the 37/40+ (and potentially the XL) have 
larger tanks.  We carry +/- 100 gallons of fresh water and 40 gallons of 
diesel.  I don't remember the holding tank size at the moment.
I'll also agree as to the high cockpit floor height and companionway step.  And 
yes, that makes putting on a proper dodger difficult.  That said, I find the 
steep companionway stairs to be quite secure feeling when going up & down, and 
have never felt like I was going to slip or fall.  There are good railings/grab 
spots set just for this purpose.  My fear, however is that one day there will 
be an accidental jibe as someone is going up or down, and that will not be a 
good day.  That's not to say it wouldn't happen on any other boat, but there's 
no way if I was going down the companionway that the boom would miss my head. :(
I find the A/C is perfectly capable of keeping our boat cool in 90+ temps and 
high humidity here in Florida, and the stern berth for us is best slept in with 
the head towards the aft, as that makes it better for getting in & out of the 
berth in the middle of the night.  We added an extra fan to the stern berth to 
help circulate the cool air from the A/C. We also replaced the mattresses in 
both berths just due to age - it made a huge difference.  

I have used the shower a number of times, and though it is a tad tight, I 
really like it.  We have also hung some sticky hooks in the shower to serve as 
a wet locker when necessary.  It's really nice to have an out of the way place 
for wet stuff!
The galley is simply a great design, and we cook breakfast on the weekends and 
would not hesitate to do more cooking other than the heat it would create in an 
already hot climate.  That you would face with any boat.  There is sufficient 
space in one of the cabinets for a small microwave (one was already on our 
boat, but I have to admit I have not yet used it).  

My wife particularly likes the center table which folds down on both sides, as 
she is not a fan of the typical U-shaped table designs.  

We added a stack pack which you can see in the attached picture:  
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0rlqciawspzi1ff/Astralis%20Under%20Sail%20%28Corrected%2020131109a%29.jpg?dl=0.
  You can see we just unzip it and sail with the lines and cover rigged.  We've 
attached a sail tie to the zipper, and it hangs over the side of the pack for 
easy zipping/unzipping, and is hidden when we are at the dock.  As mentioned 
before, with the addition of a downhaul and a little Sailkote, dropping the 
main all the way into the pack is a breeze.  

Our C 37/40+ seems to outperform a lot of boats out here in the light Florida 
air, and points like a dream.  We're having a bit of an issue getting top hull 
speed however, probably due to the 3 blade prop which I will probably replace 
when it comes out of the water for a bottom job sometime next year.
Overall, we are thrilled with the boat, and are very glad we didn't go down the 
road of a Catalina 380 (which we also liked due to the stern berth).
As with Josh, please feel free to give me a call with any questions, Bruce 
Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+, "Astralis"Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 To: C List  
Cc: Josh Muckley 
 Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 1:36 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
   
Chuck,
First let me say that I love my 37+ (tall mast wing keel).  The queen sized 
birth in the aft and the standup shower along with the PHRF of 75 all make for 
a great combination.  The very deep, partially balanced rudder means that 
getting rounded up is virtually impossible.
Now on to the dirt:
I don't have a lot to compare to and certainly no other 37/40s but I find the 
boat to be pretty tender.  Edd Schillay has said that his boat races best with 
10 to 12 crew and most of them are rail meat.  It really seams to come down to 
mast height.  I do have the tall mast, so that could be exacerbating my 
situation but a single foot seams like it would be insignificant.  Really I 
think the standard rig is probably just about as tender.  The deepest and 
heaviest keel you can accommodate on your sailing grounds would be the best.
As for the wing keel I've never had any problems.  Supposedly, the wing keel 
can get tangled on underwater grass, plow/scoop mud, and looses pointing 
ability... I don't have a reference point to compare but I kinda perceive that 
the lighter swing keels spend much of their time up.  Even when down the 
lighter weight kinda ends up being a wash compared to the wing.  If your slip 
and sailing grounds can accommodate then seek out the deeper, heavier wing keel.
I order to accommodate the queen sized aft birth, they had to sacrifice having 
an additional quarter birth or a large lazaret on port or stbd.  Additionally, 
in order to create limited head

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

We carry 80 US gallons of fresh water in the combined three fresh water
tanks, one each under the port and starboard settees and one under the vee
berth.

We love the boat.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 19:41, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> I spray the inside of the mast track and each slide liberally with Team
> McLube Sailkote when I install the main in the spring.  If there is any
> breeze when we drop the main it falls all the way down into the stack pack
> by itself, the more wind, the better it falls.
>
> No breeze and the last 6 or 8 feet don't drop all the way and I have to go
> to the mast, but if there is no breeze, it isn't a problem anyway.
>
> Ken H.
>
> https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 16:48, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> It does take a little coaxing to drop and, thanks to the zippers at the
>> mast, I can get my hands in there to do it. For a little more money (just
>> like everything else on a boat — a little more money) you can get a slide
>> track system (Tides Track), which will make the hoisting and dropping much
>> much easier. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs and
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U
>>
>> Perhaps one day — need to get my wife away from the Neeman Marcus website
>> first.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2018, at 2:31 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 !  Is a specific bat car
>> recommended for main sail  i have the old pladtic tees although it works
>> main would not just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go
>> takes a little coaxing, And I assume the idea is to be able to do it from
>> the cockpit?
>> What about reefing with this setup no change right?
>> Thanks ! and nice Ride !!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Edd:
>>
>> Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures
>> it's not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose
>> footed main.
>>
>> Alan Bergen
>> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
>>> Schillay via CnC-List
>>> *Sent:* July-09-18 8:11 AM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* Edd Schillay
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had
>>> my 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and
>>> can’t say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SAILING
>>>
>>> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop
>>> better than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find
>>> the 135% jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never
>>> overpowered and can easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp
>>> 7.2) on the jib alone (Pic
>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DWQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=XFSFZSTOj5j6FOzXuSyMSeYswIao0jbKQJjffCn1lVI%3D=0>).
>>> Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest
>>> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1
>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbcz

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I spray the inside of the mast track and each slide liberally with Team
McLube Sailkote when I install the main in the spring.  If there is any
breeze when we drop the main it falls all the way down into the stack pack
by itself, the more wind, the better it falls.

No breeze and the last 6 or 8 feet don't drop all the way and I have to go
to the mast, but if there is no breeze, it isn't a problem anyway.

Ken H.

https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/


On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 16:48, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> It does take a little coaxing to drop and, thanks to the zippers at the
> mast, I can get my hands in there to do it. For a little more money (just
> like everything else on a boat — a little more money) you can get a slide
> track system (Tides Track), which will make the hoisting and dropping much
> much easier. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs and
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U
>
> Perhaps one day — need to get my wife away from the Neeman Marcus website
> first.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2018, at 2:31 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 !  Is a specific bat car
> recommended for main sail  i have the old pladtic tees although it works
> main would not just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go
> takes a little coaxing, And I assume the idea is to be able to do it from
> the cockpit?
> What about reefing with this setup no change right?
> Thanks ! and nice Ride !!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Edd:
>
> Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's
> not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed
> main.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
>> Schillay via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* July-09-18 8:11 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Edd Schillay
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had
>> my 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and
>> can’t say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAILING
>>
>> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better
>> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135%
>> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and
>> can easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib
>> alone (Pic
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DWQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=XFSFZSTOj5j6FOzXuSyMSeYswIao0jbKQJjffCn1lVI%3D=0>).
>> Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest
>> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DLfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=v4xalD3KDNQkmobZ0YX1i%2BniOrgxrSKnv97dL3O6Z6w%3D=0>
>>  | Pic 2
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJY

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

I have standard sail slugs and for a very few $ added a downhaul whichis run to 
an unused clutch.
I can pull the main the rest of the way into the stackpack from the cockpit.
Easy peasy...
Bruce Whitmore C 37/40+Australia

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/9/18  2:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: C List 
 Cc: Josh Muckley  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List 37/40 recommendations? 
Tides Marine Strong Track is my recommendation.  The sail falls in seconds into 
the sail pack.  Work with your sail maker to retrofit or build new.
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD 


On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 2:31 PM John Conklin via CnC-List  
wrote:





Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 !  Is a specific bat car recommended 
for main sail  i have the old pladtic tees although it works main would not 
just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go takes a little coaxing, 
And I assume the idea is
 to be able to do it from the cockpit?
What about reefing with this setup no change right?
Thanks ! and nice Ride !!



Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
wrote:







Edd:



Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's not 
there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed main.










Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

















From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List

Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Edd Schillay

Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?


 
Chuck,

 


While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 1990 
C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t say 
enough about how wonderful a boat it is.


 


SAILING


She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better than 
pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% jib to 
be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can easily hit
 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone (Pic).
 Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 | Pic
 2) as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can 
be a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic).


 


ACCOMODATIONS


She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
spacious with
 LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, and between the 
starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic),
 the port-side bench seating (Pic),
 the nav table and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each other. 
The head is bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate enclosed 
shower stall (with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline island 
queen bed is just phenomenal
 (Pic).
 She will be the envy of all your friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get a 
white-bearded C 30 MkII owner come aboard and say things like “I f-in hate 
you” and who tells other C’ers “Don’t go back there” when they start inching 
towards your aft cabin. 


 


MAINTENANCE


What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often amazed 
at how much access there is to wiring and other systems. And engine access is 
on three-sides (some have added a fourth side hatch in their head) making engine
 work pretty easy with less blood-covered knuckles. 


 


Some additional under-sail (racing) photos (Pic1 | Pic2 | Pic
 3 | Pic
 4)


 


Seriously, it’s such an amazing boat that, even after 25 years, the designer 
can’t help but stare (Pic) 

 




Feel free to contact me off list should you need any specific info or insights. 




All the best,


 


Edd


 


 


Edd M. Schillay


Starship Enterprise


C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B


City Island, NY 



Starship
 Enterprise's Captain's Log


 



 











 






 


 




































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Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

John,

It does take a little coaxing to drop and, thanks to the zippers at the mast, I 
can get my hands in there to do it. For a little more money (just like 
everything else on a boat — a little more money) you can get a slide track 
system (Tides Track), which will make the hoisting and dropping much much 
easier. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0fScPkaGs> and 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0iFS1L-B6U> 

Perhaps one day — need to get my wife away from the Neeman Marcus website 
first. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>





On Jul 9, 2018, at 2:31 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List  
wrote:

Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 !  Is a specific bat car recommended 
for main sail  i have the old pladtic tees although it works main would not 
just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go takes a little coaxing, 
And I assume the idea is to be able to do it from the cockpit?
What about reefing with this setup no change right?
Thanks ! and nice Ride !!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

> Edd:
> 
> Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's 
> not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed 
> main.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
> Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Edd Schillay
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
> 
>  
> 
> Chuck,
> 
>  
> 
> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 
> 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t 
> say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
> 
>  
> 
> SAILING
> 
> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better 
> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% 
> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can 
> easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone 
> (Pic 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DWQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=XFSFZSTOj5j6FOzXuSyMSeYswIao0jbKQJjffCn1lVI%3D=0>).
>  Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DLfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=v4xalD3KDNQkmobZ0YX1i%2BniOrgxrSKnv97dL3O6Z6w%3D=0>
>  | Pic 2 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DbuSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=34XoSKZ7XuoKzRpwX%2B8wkSLsK3vyG7n4%2BBL4PEDaOXs%3D=0>)
>  as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be 
> a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Tides Marine Strong Track is my recommendation.  The sail falls in seconds
into the sail pack.  Work with your sail maker to retrofit or build new.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 2:31 PM John Conklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 !  Is a specific bat car
> recommended for main sail  i have the old pladtic tees although it works
> main would not just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go
> takes a little coaxing, And I assume the idea is to be able to do it from
> the cockpit?
> What about reefing with this setup no change right?
> Thanks ! and nice Ride !!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Edd:
>
> Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's
> not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed
> main.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
>> Schillay via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* July-09-18 8:11 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Edd Schillay
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had
>> my 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and
>> can’t say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAILING
>>
>> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better
>> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135%
>> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and
>> can easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib
>> alone (Pic
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DWQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=XFSFZSTOj5j6FOzXuSyMSeYswIao0jbKQJjffCn1lVI%3D=0>).
>> Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest
>> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DLfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=v4xalD3KDNQkmobZ0YX1i%2BniOrgxrSKnv97dL3O6Z6w%3D=0>
>>  | Pic 2
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DbuSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=34XoSKZ7XuoKzRpwX%2B8wkSLsK3vyG7n4%2BBL4PEDaOXs%3D=0>)
>> as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can
>> be a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dpz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=JB3kxeRcSNwt1d3DfuGCQMneO8fWSTAXeGkMAHIX5J8%3D=0>
>> ).
>>
>>
>>
>> ACCOMODATIONS
>>
>> She is simply a crui

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Ed, I also want this stay pack on my 37 !  Is a specific bat car recommended 
for main sail  i have the old pladtic tees although it works main would not 
just drop into stay packed if I let the main halyard go takes a little coaxing, 
And I assume the idea is to be able to do it from the cockpit?
What about reefing with this setup no change right?
Thanks ! and nice Ride !!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Edd:

Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's not 
there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed main.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On 
Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

Chuck,

While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 1990 
C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t say 
enough about how wonderful a boat it is.

SAILING
She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better than 
pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% jib to 
be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can easily 
hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone 
(Pic<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DWQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=XFSFZSTOj5j6FOzXuSyMSeYswIao0jbKQJjffCn1lVI%3D=0>).
 Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main 
(Pic1<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DLfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=v4xalD3KDNQkmobZ0YX1i%2BniOrgxrSKnv97dL3O6Z6w%3D=0>
 | Pic 
2<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3DbuSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=34XoSKZ7XuoKzRpwX%2B8wkSLsK3vyG7n4%2BBL4PEDaOXs%3D=0>)
 as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be a 
multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties 
(Pic<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dpz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo%26e%3D=02%7C01%7C%7C0bbe30b833934a7c6cce08d5e5be803c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636667528705421854=JB3kxeRcSNwt1d3DfuGCQMneO8fWSTAXeGkMAHIX5J8%3D=0>).

ACCOMODATIONS
She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, 
and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating 
(Pic<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI%26r%3D9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ%26m%3DdKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c%26s%3Dc7RH6aom

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Alan,

I have a loose-footed main, so the stack is in the groove on the boom. A few 
unzips, unhook the jacks, and it slides right off under the main. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>







On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:16 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
wrote:

How does it attach to the boom?

Alan


On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Alan,

The stack is new and those racing photos are from a few years back, but, 
depending on the stack you buy, it is fully removable if you want to race the 
boat. 

Mine will unzip and slide off in a matter of seconds, plus it can also be 
lowered and attached to the boom if I don’t want to remove it, but want 
completely off the sail. 

Should have done it years ago.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__enterpriseb.blogspot.com_=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=I4ffiF95ndFUBH2jImJkXxJ16Cgm14NHLNweuGFadn8=qEN38wVjMprikCneIXFvUqRG1NKJ391ogDncFazk0Ls=>





On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Edd:

Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's not 
there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed main.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

 

Chuck,

 

While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 1990 
C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t say 
enough about how wonderful a boat it is.

 

SAILING

She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better than 
pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% jib to 
be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can easily 
hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=WQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU=>).
 Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=LfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY=>
 | Pic 2 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=buSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw=>)
 as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be a 
multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=pz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo=>).

 

ACCOMODATIONS

She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, 
and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=c7RH6aomOEuwP2LMJHbjDWikZ3vp4cKVXH5Enhhk3YM=>),
 the port-side bench seating (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_zz6yi3vt4vi8kkq_IMG-5

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Chuck,

First let me say that I love my 37+ (tall mast wing keel).  The queen sized
birth in the aft and the standup shower along with the PHRF of 75 all make
for a great combination.  The very deep, partially balanced rudder means
that getting rounded up is virtually impossible.

*Now on to the dirt:*

I don't have a lot to compare to and certainly no other 37/40s but I find
the boat to be pretty tender.  Edd Schillay has said that his boat races
best with 10 to 12 crew and most of them are rail meat.  It really seams to
come down to mast height.  I do have the tall mast, so that could be
exacerbating my situation but a single foot seams like it would be
insignificant.  Really I think the standard rig is probably just about as
tender.  The deepest and heaviest keel you can accommodate on your sailing
grounds would be the best.

As for the wing keel I've never had any problems.  Supposedly, the wing
keel can get tangled on underwater grass, plow/scoop mud, and looses
pointing ability... I don't have a reference point to compare but I kinda
perceive that the lighter swing keels spend much of their time up.  Even
when down the lighter weight kinda ends up being a wash compared to the
wing.  If your slip and sailing grounds can accommodate then seek out the
deeper, heavier wing keel.

I order to accommodate the queen sized aft birth, they had to sacrifice
having an additional quarter birth or a large lazaret on port or stbd.
Additionally, in order to create limited head room in the birth the cockpit
floor is high - specifically the companion way.  Consequently the boom is
high, making mainsail handling a challenge but dodger height needs to be
low making for a crouched approach to the companion way.  The installation
of a Bimini is challenged by the boom height and cockpit traveler.  I tend
to stand on the aft lazaret hatches when helming so designing a Bimini high
enough for me to stand and short enough to avoid the boom creates a
problem.  In my mind I would have the Bimini project out the back in an
overhead mirror image to the reverse transom.  Properly designed this could
accommodate davits and over 800w of solar power.

While technically 39.6 feet long the reverse transom accounts for about 4
feet of that length.  The narrowing in the hips is athletically and
functionally pleasing but combined with the reverse transom makes the size
of the boat more equivalent to other 35 footers.  I've been told that the
designer had been drafting a new model of 37 and was attempting to compete
with the other build styles of the time with near vertical bow and stern.
He hated the appearance.  On the drawing board he took the rectangular
profile and stretched the corners making a parallelogram.  As I understand
it, he described this as something to the effect of having added $40 of
fiberglass to the bow and stern and having resulted in an overall length of
~40 feet.  In order to differentiate the old model of 37 from the new the
marketing team called it the 37+.  Since this obviously creates confusion,
the 37+ was later referred to as 37+(37/40).  And then later as just 37/40.


The marketing team sold these as semi-custom builds and released 3
variants.  The +, the XL, and the R.  The R was designed to be a racing
boat.  It was stripped out, had a deep keel, and tall mast.  The XL had a
tall mast and a deep keel but included the interior of the +.  The + was
supposed to fill the racer-cruiser niche.  It had a shorter mast and
shallower swing keel.  All of these variants could have the various options
mix and matched.

The tall rig has triple spreaders and check stays/running backs.  I find
that the check stays get in the way more than anything.  I've seen the
backstay attachment break loose from the transom in another boat with the
shorter mast.  I would inspect closely.  I've also heard criticisms of the
tabbing but have not personally seem examples of poor quality.  The tankage
is low compared to other more cruiser oriented 40 foot boats.  60 gallons
of water, 20 of black water and 40 of fuel.  In a conservation mode you
should plan on at least one gallon of water per person per day.  One gallon
of fuel per hour.  And with the traditional jabsco toilet pump plan on 1
gallon per flush.  20 flushes is pretty limited.  Fortunately, the PO
installed a vacu-flush on board my boat.  At 1 pint per flush, I can handle
~150 flushes.  It uses water from the freshwater tanks but this also
minimizes the development of hydrogen sulfide and associated smell.  The
freshwater also flushes uric acid that clogs the pipes.  Of course this is
at the expense of the already limited supply of fresh water.  Compare these
tankage limits to those of a Morgan OI /41 or a Caliber 40.

The reverse transom is about the only feasible place to locate a fixed
generator and/or a water maker.  Putting them there would make servicing a
real pain.   Alternatively you could put them under the v-birth but at the
expense of storage and you would have to 

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Our stack pack isn't exactly the same as Edd's but it works the same way,
it comes off completely in about 5 min but can be rolled up and stored
along the boom if you don't want to take it off.  Makes handling the main
easy peasy.

Ken H.

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 14:11, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> The stack is new and those racing photos are from a few years back, but,
> depending on the stack you buy, it is fully removable if you want to race
> the boat.
>
> Mine will unzip and slide off in a matter of seconds, plus it can also be
> lowered and attached to the boom if I don’t want to remove it, but want
> completely off the sail.
>
> Should have done it years ago.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Edd:
>
> Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's
> not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed
> main.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
>> Schillay via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* July-09-18 8:11 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Edd Schillay
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had
>> my 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and
>> can’t say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAILING
>>
>> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better
>> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135%
>> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and
>> can easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib
>> alone (Pic
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=WQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU=>).
>> Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest
>> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=LfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY=>
>>  | Pic 2
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=buSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw=>)
>> as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can
>> be a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=pz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo=>
>> ).
>>
>>
>>
>> ACCOMODATIONS
>>
>> She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about
>> monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the
>> 37/40 series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward
>> cabin in spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great
>> ventilation, and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=c7RH6aomOEuwP2LMJHbjDWikZ3vp4cKVXH5Enhhk3YM=>),
>> the port-side bench seating (Pic
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

How does it attach to the boom?

Alan


On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> The stack is new and those racing photos are from a few years back, but,
> depending on the stack you buy, it is fully removable if you want to race
> the boat.
>
> Mine will unzip and slide off in a matter of seconds, plus it can also be
> lowered and attached to the boom if I don’t want to remove it, but want
> completely off the sail.
>
> Should have done it years ago.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__enterpriseb.blogspot.com_=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=I4ffiF95ndFUBH2jImJkXxJ16Cgm14NHLNweuGFadn8=qEN38wVjMprikCneIXFvUqRG1NKJ391ogDncFazk0Ls=>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Edd:
>
> Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's
> not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed
> main.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
>> Schillay via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* July-09-18 8:11 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Edd Schillay
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had
>> my 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and
>> can’t say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAILING
>>
>> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better
>> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135%
>> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and
>> can easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib
>> alone (Pic
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=WQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU=>).
>> Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest
>> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=LfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY=>
>>  | Pic 2
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=buSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw=>)
>> as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can
>> be a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=pz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo=>
>> ).
>>
>>
>>
>> ACCOMODATIONS
>>
>> She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about
>> monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the
>> 37/40 series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward
>> cabin in spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great
>> ventilation, and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=c7RH6aomOEuwP2LMJHbjDWikZ3vp4cKVXH5Enhhk3YM=>),
>> the port-side bench seating (Pic
>> <http

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Alan,

The stack is new and those racing photos are from a few years back, but, 
depending on the stack you buy, it is fully removable if you want to race the 
boat. 

Mine will unzip and slide off in a matter of seconds, plus it can also be 
lowered and attached to the boom if I don’t want to remove it, but want 
completely off the sail. 

Should have done it years ago.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>





On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:06 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
wrote:

Edd:

Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's not 
there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed main.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

 

Chuck,

 

While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 1990 
C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t say 
enough about how wonderful a boat it is.

 

SAILING

She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better than 
pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% jib to 
be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can easily 
hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=WQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU=>).
 Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=LfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY=>
 | Pic 2 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=buSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw=>)
 as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be a 
multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=pz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo=>).

 

ACCOMODATIONS

She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, 
and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=c7RH6aomOEuwP2LMJHbjDWikZ3vp4cKVXH5Enhhk3YM=>),
 the port-side bench seating (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_zz6yi3vt4vi8kkq_IMG-5F0811.JPG-3Fdl-3D0=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=8RRdbwhbWfOKLobH8gM8UfCoD1kzgB6lwO7pmXS3-cc=>),
 the nav table and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each other. 
The head is bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate enclosed 
shower stall (with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline island 
queen bed is just phenomenal (Pic 
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2DXyGMCtYJiI0_WcP2LVtir0I_Chg_w3hLq4shrigv5u01cWeoghTnzlOhvt9UgCLcBGAs_s1600_bed.JPG=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=Hgs7vtBApfuGpav10LE4xCZxOHBZ50QG

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Edd:

Some of your pictures show the Stack Pack, but in the racing pictures it's
not there.  Is the pack easily removable for racing? I have a loose footed
main.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

*From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd
> Schillay via CnC-List
> *Sent:* July-09-18 8:11 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Edd Schillay
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
>
>
>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my
> 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and
> can’t say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
>
>
>
> SAILING
>
> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better
> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135%
> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and
> can easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib
> alone (Pic
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__3.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-5FpUcUZefrfY_UG2byO27YdI_Blk_VKt3WcYZ9Mw_s1600_Day1Sailing.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=WQmAWS_HPlrmfc8w3cwQoz67lQ8MFnGoLeiHRY7c_xU=>).
> Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest
> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D-2Drq4wL9px58_WzKrXnRU01I_CkY_EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1799.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=LfV0LVDnyqFeFlHAC6sdNar-2eW4-Tngwelh6Ai2jJY=>
>  | Pic 2
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2D33ZcliySMzU_WzKrX6K-5FjeI_Ckc_P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-2D5Qn5h7UR-2DodJVwQCLcBGAs_s1600_IMG-5F1800.jpg=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=buSNaq333v4kiDQCsjW8GRj8x6cnYkcCFSI7f2Uq9Xw=>)
> as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can
> be a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__1.bp.blogspot.com_-2D4EYiOA4Hduw_UmPsvAdxjvI_CDI_yUNXs-2Dg6U3Q_s1600_sailsdown.JPG=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=pz05sSNB6YBkLPioOQaJNq7ozBUrtfBR90kKB4OaYjo=>
> ).
>
>
>
> ACCOMODATIONS
>
> She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about
> monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the
> 37/40 series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward
> cabin in spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great
> ventilation, and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_spvg3fycdx4191r_IMG-5F0810.JPG-3Fdl-3D0=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=c7RH6aomOEuwP2LMJHbjDWikZ3vp4cKVXH5Enhhk3YM=>),
> the port-side bench seating (Pic
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_zz6yi3vt4vi8kkq_IMG-5F0811.JPG-3Fdl-3D0=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=8RRdbwhbWfOKLobH8gM8UfCoD1kzgB6lwO7pmXS3-cc=>),
> the nav table and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each
> other. The head is bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate
> enclosed shower stall (with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the
> centerline island queen bed is just phenomenal (Pic
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__4.bp.blogspot.com_-2DXyGMCtYJiI0_WcP2LVtir0I_Chg_w3hLq4shrigv5u01cWeoghTnzlOhvt9UgCLcBGAs_s1600_bed.JPG=DwMFaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=dKAkruVGSO5wBUQoOn4R8Q6qbo7cWs2KggnErflJR9c=Hgs7vtBApfuGpav10LE4xCZxOHBZ50QGu8md3dpiJnw=>).
> She will be the envy of all your friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get
> a white-bearded C 30 MkII owner come aboard and say things like “I f-in
> hate you” and who tells other C’ers “Don’t go back there” when they start
> inching towards your aft cabin.
>
>
>
> MAINTENANCE
>
> What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often
> amazed at how much access there is to wiring and oth

Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

So you like it?  

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my
> 1990 C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and
> can’t say enough about how wonderful a boat it is.
>
> SAILING
> She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better
> than pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135%
> jib to be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and
> can easily hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib
> alone (Pic
> ).
> Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest
> installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1
> 
>  | Pic 2
> )
> as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can
> be a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic
> 
> ).
>
> ACCOMODATIONS
> She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about
> monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the
> 37/40 series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward
> cabin in spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great
> ventilation, and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic
> ), the
> port-side bench seating (Pic
> ), the nav
> table and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each other. The
> head is bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate enclosed
> shower stall (with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline island
> queen bed is just phenomenal (Pic
> ).
> She will be the envy of all your friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get
> a white-bearded C 30 MkII owner come aboard and say things like “I f-in
> hate you” and who tells other C’ers “Don’t go back there” when they start
> inching towards your aft cabin.
>
> MAINTENANCE
> What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often
> amazed at how much access there is to wiring and other systems. And engine
> access is on three-sides (some have added a fourth side hatch in their
> head) making engine work pretty easy with less blood-covered knuckles.
>
> Some additional under-sail (racing) photos (Pic1
>  | Pic2
>  | Pic 3
>  | Pic
> 4 )
>
> Seriously, it’s such an amazing boat that, even after 25 years, the
> designer can’t help but stare (Pic
> )
>
> Feel free to contact me off list should you need any specific info or
> insights.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:10 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 16:27:26 -0400
> From: Chuck Saur 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Happy summer!  I'm wondering if y'all have opinions/wisdom to share about
> the basic C 37/40?  Wing keel...5'3" draft specifically.
>
> Might be time for my son to take over my 35-3 if I can find the right boat.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
>
> (517)-490-5926
> -- next part --
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[David Miles via CnC-List]

In pic #1, is that a Tribble stuck in the block??...:)



Best regards,

David Miles

Impulse

C 30MK2

Vancouver



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay 
via CnC-List
Sent: July-09-18 8:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?



Chuck,



While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 1990 
C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t say 
enough about how wonderful a boat it is.



SAILING

She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better than 
pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% jib to 
be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can easily 
hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone (Pic 
<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_pUcUZefrfY/UG2byO27YdI/Blk/VKt3WcYZ9Mw/s1600/Day1Sailing.jpg>
 ). Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 
<https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--rq4wL9px58/WzKrXnRU01I/CkY/EXHBCCqq2VYx1quwGz6VDIPiAzbczsIBACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1799.jpg>
  | Pic 2 
<https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-33ZcliySMzU/WzKrX6K_jeI/Ckc/P5owuAsTLfQxP0NMz-5Qn5h7UR-odJVwQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1800.jpg>
 ) as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be 
a multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic 
<http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4EYiOA4Hduw/UmPsvAdxjvI/CDI/yUNXs-g6U3Q/s1600/sailsdown.JPG>
 ).



ACCOMODATIONS

She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, 
and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/spvg3fycdx4191r/IMG_0810.JPG?dl=0> ), the port-side 
bench seating (Pic 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/zz6yi3vt4vi8kkq/IMG_0811.JPG?dl=0> ), the nav table 
and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each other. The head is 
bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate enclosed shower stall 
(with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline island queen bed is 
just phenomenal (Pic 
<https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XyGMCtYJiI0/WcP2LVtir0I/Chg/w3hLq4shrigv5u01cWeoghTnzlOhvt9UgCLcBGAs/s1600/bed.JPG>
 ). She will be the envy of all your friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get 
a white-bearded C 30 MkII owner come aboard and say things like “I f-in hate 
you” and who tells other C’ers “Don’t go back there” when they start inching 
towards your aft cabin.



MAINTENANCE

What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often amazed 
at how much access there is to wiring and other systems. And engine access is 
on three-sides (some have added a fourth side hatch in their head) making 
engine work pretty easy with less blood-covered knuckles.



Some additional under-sail (racing) photos (Pic1 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/jk70wtpocxhm5m0/Scan10043.JPG?dl=0>  | Pic2 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/efsjhnkw3qvw5dj/Scan10041.JPG?dl=0>  | Pic 3 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/k1exc0yuzn6fq9m/race1-raw-closeup.png?dl=0>  | Pic 4 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieixco4khf11gf8/DownwindFinish.jpg?dl=0> )



Seriously, it’s such an amazing boat that, even after 25 years, the designer 
can’t help but stare (Pic 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdlqr438yyab1c9/Ball.png?dl=0> )



Feel free to contact me off list should you need any specific info or insights.


All the best,



Edd





Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>















On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:10 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:

Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 16:27:26 -0400
From: Chuck Saur 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
Message-ID:
   
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Happy summer!  I'm wondering if y'all have opinions/wisdom to share about
the basic C 37/40?  Wing keel...5'3" draft specifically.

Might be time for my son to take over my 35-3 if I can find the right boat.

Thoughts?


*Chuck Saur*

(517)-490-5926
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Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Ed, great review...I love the photos(I think I'll just photo shop my 
picture on your boat)

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark 4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River (soon)
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Sent: Mon, Jul 9, 2018 11:11 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?


Chuck,


While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 1990 
C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t say 
enough about how wonderful a boat it is.


SAILING
She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better than 
pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% jib to 
be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can easily 
hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone (Pic). Once 
you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest installing a 
“Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 | Pic 2) as, without one, getting the 
main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be a multi-person job between the 
flaking and sail ties (Pic).


ACCOMODATIONS
She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, 
and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic), the port-side bench 
seating (Pic), the nav table and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into 
each other. The head is bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate 
enclosed shower stall (with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline 
island queen bed is just phenomenal (Pic). She will be the envy of all your 
friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get a white-bearded C 30 MkII owner 
come aboard and say things like “I f-in hate you” and who tells other C’ers 
“Don’t go back there” when they start inching towards your aft cabin. 


MAINTENANCE
What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often amazed 
at how much access there is to wiring and other systems. And engine access is 
on three-sides (some have added a fourth side hatch in their head) making 
engine work pretty easy with less blood-covered knuckles. 


Some additional under-sail (racing) photos (Pic1 | Pic2 | Pic 3 | Pic 4)


Seriously, it’s such an amazing boat that, even after 25 years, the designer 
can’t help but stare (Pic) 




Feel free to contact me off list should you need any specific info or insights. 

All the best,


Edd




Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
















On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:10 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:



Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 16:27:26 -0400
From: Chuck Saur 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?
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Happy summer!  I'm wondering if y'all have opinions/wisdom to share about
the basic C 37/40?  Wing keel...5'3" draft specifically.

Might be time for my son to take over my 35-3 if I can find the right boat.

Thoughts?


*Chuck Saur*

(517)-490-5926
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Re: Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Chuck,

While I can’t comment on the winged-keel version specifically, I’ve had my 1990 
C 37+ for 13 years now (the Enterprise-A was a 1978 C 34) and can’t say 
enough about how wonderful a boat it is.

SAILING
She’s responsive, points well and can handle heavier wind and chop better than 
pretty much any other boat in her class. For cruising, I find the 135% jib to 
be perfect in just about every wind range - never overpowered and can easily 
hit 7.2 knots (or, as we say on my boat, Warp 7.2) on the jib alone (Pic 
).
 Once you get the boat, if it doesn’t already have one, I would suggest 
installing a “Stack Pack” system for the main (Pic1 

 | Pic 2 
)
 as, without one, getting the main up or down, especially in a breeze, can be a 
multi-person job between the flaking and sail ties (Pic 
).

ACCOMODATIONS
She is simply a cruiser’s dream. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about 
monohulls is that it feels like you’re in a basement. Not true with the 37/40 
series. It’s light, airy and very comfortable. The V-berth forward cabin in 
spacious with LOTS of storage, the main cabin bright, has great ventilation, 
and between the starboard-side u-shaped seating (Pic 
), the port-side 
bench seating (Pic 
), the nav table 
and the L-shaped galley, you won’t be bumping into each other. The head is 
bigger than some cruise-ship bathrooms with a separate enclosed shower stall 
(with seat too!) and that aft cabin with the centerline island queen bed is 
just phenomenal (Pic 
).
 She will be the envy of all your friends and, if you’re lucky, you may get a 
white-bearded C 30 MkII owner come aboard and say things like “I f-in hate 
you” and who tells other C’ers “Don’t go back there” when they start inching 
towards your aft cabin. 

MAINTENANCE
What’s better on a boat than doing projects and customizing? I’m often amazed 
at how much access there is to wiring and other systems. And engine access is 
on three-sides (some have added a fourth side hatch in their head) making 
engine work pretty easy with less blood-covered knuckles. 

Some additional under-sail (racing) photos (Pic1 
 | Pic2 
 | Pic 3 
 | Pic 4 
)

Seriously, it’s such an amazing boat that, even after 25 years, the designer 
can’t help but stare (Pic 
) 

Feel free to contact me off list should you need any specific info or insights. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 







On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:10 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
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> 
> Happy summer!  I'm wondering if y'all have opinions/wisdom to share about
> the basic C 37/40?  Wing keel...5'3" draft specifically.
> 
> Might be time for my son to take over my 35-3 if I can find the right boat.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> *Chuck Saur*
> 
> (517)-490-5926
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